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MAINTENANCE ON YOUR

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RADIOS.

[*This meeting was joined in progress*]

[1. To discuss the FY24-25 budget with department heads.]

UM, HAVE WE DISCUSSED HOW THAT IS GONNA BE HANDLED? AND IF THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED? WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT IN ON OUR MISCELLANEOUS, BE ABLE TO JUST COVER IT AND ROLL IT IN THE DOCK.

OKAY.

DO YOU NEED A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR THAT? WE, SO WE CAN MONITOR YEAH, WE PROBABLY WOULD WANNA CREATE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WITHIN YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE.

OKAY.

WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND MOVE IT INTO THAT.

LET'S DO THAT.

THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO TRACK IT.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO I'LL GET WITH YOU ON THAT.

IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? THAT'S GOOD.

YOU BET.

OKAY, PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU BET.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS.

OKAY, OUR NEXT ONE IS THE FIRE MARSHAL.

HE'S ON HIS WAY.

HE'S ON HIS WAY.

MM-HMM.

.

WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE RIGHT THERE.

LET'S JUST TAKE THE RED, RED.

ARE YOU THE NEXT ONE? YEP.

WELL, YOU COME ON BEFORE THE FIRE MARSHAL GETS HERE.

.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE, UH, PRESENTED IN FRONT OF Y'ALL BEFORE.

SO, UH, I HAVE JUST A FEW, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASES.

THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS WE WERE ASKED TO REDUCE OUR BUDGET AND I DID LIKE A 5%, UH, DECREASE IN SOME OF MY LINE ITEMS. AND, AND NOW I'M TO THE POINT NOW I GOTTA, I GOTTA MOVE IT BACK FORWARD.

OKAY.

WHICH, WHICH LINE ITEMS ARE YOU THE, SO ON OFFICE SUPPLIES, OBVIOUSLY OFFICE SUPPLIES HAVE, HAVE, UH, INCREASED.

YEAH.

JUST THEIR, UH, JUST THE MERE COST OF OFFICE SUPPLIES HAS INCREASED.

AND THEN TRAINING, UH, I HAVE, UH, THE LAST TWO YEARS I HAVE FOUR CLERKS.

AND BECAUSE OF HAVING CLERKS LEAVING, GOING TO OTHER POSITIONS AND, AND BRINGING IN NEW CLERKS, UH, I'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO SEND THREE AT A TIME.

SO NEXT YEAR I ANTICIPATE SENDING ALL FOUR TO TRAINING.

UH, SO THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE THE, IS THAT UH, VIRTUAL TRAINING OR IS THAT WHERE YOU SIT IN THE MALL SOMEWHERE? IT'S IN, IN-PERSON TRAINING.

OKAY.

'CAUSE ON HERE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, I HAVE $0 ON YOUR DEAL.

WELL, OURS ARE, OUR TRAINING COMES OUT MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING.

CAN WE, THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS CAN SET THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO I THINK YOUR ACTUAL TRAINING COMES OUT OF THE J TECHNOLOGY FUND NORMALLY.

AND THEN LIKE THE, THE, HIS MILEAGE AND PER DIEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT DOES COME OUT OF THE MILEAGE NORMALLY.

OKAY.

SO WE NEED TO THAT TOO.

YEAH.

SO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT THEN.

OKAY.

SO I DIDN'T, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL PUT THAT, UH, MILES, UH, MEALS AND LODGING, UH, JUST MAKE THAT EVEN 4,000 I GUESS ARE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT $2,600.

YEAH.

BECAUSE WHEN I, WHEN I SUBMIT THE REQUESTS, I ALWAYS USE THAT MILEAGE MILL AND LODGING AS THE REQUEST EVEN FOR THE TRAINING.

LIKE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE ACTUAL TRAINING YEAH.

PAY THAT GOES TO THE TEXAS JUSTICE COURT TRAINING CENTER, UHHUH, .

SO WE NEED TO DO THAT TO DIFFERENT, SO WE WILL FIX THAT FOR YOU AND WE CAN SPLIT THAT OUT FOR YOU AND MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO THE TRAINING LINE ITEM.

SO THE MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING SHOULD TECHNICALLY BE YOUR JUST PER DIEM AND MILEAGE PER DIEM AND MILEAGE AND HOTELS.

OKAY.

WELL, THE ACTUAL TRAINING EXPENSE WOULD COME OUTTA TRAINING.

OKAY.

WHEN I FIRST CAME INTO, I DIDN'T NOTICED THAT.

THAT'S HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.

SO THAT'S HOW I DID IT.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

WE'LL GET THAT FIXED FOR YOU.

HOW MUCH DO YOU WANNA MOVE UP TO THE TRAINING OUT OF THAT? 4, 7, 500.

SO EACH, EACH PERSON IS ABOUT $300 JUST FOR THE TRAINING PART.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND THEN THE PER DIEM AND, UH, AND MILEAGE 12 WOULD BE PROBABLY ABOUT, UH, 2,500.

MAYBE 25.

YEAH.

PLUS, PLUS MYSELF.

'CAUSE 'CAUSE I DO, I I HAVE TO, I'M REQUIRED TO DO 20 HOURS OF TRAINING EVERY YEAR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN I GO TO THE, UH, THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL ON MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING BECAUSE I DO ALL THE PROBABLE CAUSE MENTAL HEALTH.

RIGHT.

UH, HEARINGS FOR THE COUNTY.

WELL, WHY DON'T YOU AND BRANDON GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT NUMBERS? WE'LL SPLIT THAT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

YOU WANT ME TO JUST CALL YOU SOMETIME AFTER THIS? YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

MM-HMM.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND PICK 'EM ALL UP AND SPLIT 'EM OUT AND TELL 'EM YES.

YOU KNOW, SHE'LL DO THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

IT, IT, THAT, THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO, TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER TOO.

YES.

AND WE COULD TRACK IT MORE ACCURATELY.

YES, EXACTLY.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'M GOOD.

GREAT.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NOW ON THE INQUEST TRAVEL.

YES.

NOW, SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT BRANDI AND I TALKED ABOUT AT, UH, WHEN WE DID THE, UH, UH, DOING THE BUDGET INPUT TRAINING, UH, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ZERO.

WE JUST SUBMIT AN IN INPUT, WE JUST SUBMIT MILEAGE AT, AT THE, SOMETIMES I DO IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

SOME OF 'EM DO IT, YOU KNOW, QUARTERLY.

UH, AND SO THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE MILL MILEAGE.

YEAH.

MILL MILEAGE AND LODGING AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

SO WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE BETTER, AND BRANDY AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT,

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WAS, WAS PUTTING MONEY IN THAT LINE ITEM SO THAT IT'S BETTER UNDERSTANDABLE.

AND YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR.

DO WE HAVE A TRACK OF WHAT HE DID LAST YEAR? YEAH, IT WAS, SO IN 2023 HE SPENT 1,300, ALMOST $1,400.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND THEN LAST YEAR WE JUST INCLUDED IT IN THAT MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING.

SO HE WANTED TO SPLIT IT BACK OUT THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

WE NEED, YEAH.

AND I, IN MY INQUEST OR, OR THEY, THEY HAVEN'T INCREASED ANY MORE THAN, THAN BASIC QUOTE WHAT I HAD LAST YEAR.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT.

YES.

OKAY.

AND JUST Y'ALL GET TOGETHER LATER ON THE OTHER LINE ITEM.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT ALL OKAY? THAT'S IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

NO.

GOOD DEAL.

ACTUALLY, THIS IS OUR FIRST ROUND, SO HERE WE GO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, UHHUH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANKS SIR.

GUESS WE TAKE OUR FIRST BREAK? FIRST BREAK.

YEAH.

.

NOW YOU OLD TIRED GET YOU DONUT.

YEAH, I KEEP DOING THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING.

YOU CAN TURN TO M OFF.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

ARE WE ON THERE? ARE WE LIVE? WE ARE ON NOW.

OKAY.

WE'RE BACK.

WE HAVE NOW THE FIRE MARSHAL WHO WANTS TO PRESENT HIS, UH, REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO, PAUL, GO AHEAD.

VERY GOOD.

UH, SO NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES FOR GENERAL FUND.

UM, I SENT SOME INFORMATION OVER TO COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE REGARDING A SALARY STUDY THAT I DID.

UH, SO JUST ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UH, OF THAT INFORMATION.

UH, AS FAR AS FIRE CODE FUND GOES, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE CHANGES TO LINE ITEMS, SOME DECREASING, SOME GOING UP.

MAIN THING THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, A NEED TO REPLACE OUR RADIO EQUIPMENT, UH, WHICH IS, UH, EXPENSIVE FOR THE MOBILE UNITS AND PORTABLES.

WE'RE TRYING TO GO WITH TRI BAND RADIOS, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO COMMUNICATE WITH, UH, VAN ZANT COUNTY AS WELL AS OUR, OUR COUNTY, UM, AND NOT HAVE AS MANY COMMUNICATION ISSUES DURING LARGE WILDFIRE EVENTS.

SO, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, UH, THE BIG PURCHASE FOR US.

UM, WE'RE WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? OKAY.

WHERE'S YOUR DOLLAR FIGURE ON THAT, PAUL? UH, FOR NEW EQUIPMENT, WE WERE LOOKING AT $30,000.

YEP, GOT IT.

25.

GOT IT UP FROM FOUR FIVE LAST YEAR.

5,000 INCREASE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THE RA, THE RADIOS ON ARE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY THE SAME ONES THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT USED? YES, THEY ARE.

SO, UH, WE ACTUALLY FOUND SOME CHEAPER RADIOS THROUGH KENWOOD.

UH, SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WILL FUNCTION ON THIS SYSTEM.

UM, BUT THAT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER OPTION FOR US.

THEY'RE GONNA LET YOU TRY 'EM OUT AND MAKE SURE? YES.

OKAY.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE MAINLY JUST SOFTWARE INSIDE.

THEY'RE ALL HOLLOWING NOW.

THEY'RE JUST SOFTWARE.

RIGHT.

BUT I MEAN, AS LONG AS THE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, AS LONG AS THEY , AS LONG AS THEY CAN WRITE THE SOFTWARE FOR IT, I GUESS.

I GUESS, UH, EVERY WHO IT IS, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF BEN OR WHO WHO'S DOING THE RADIO NOW, SO THIS WOULD, IF WE GO WITH THE KENWOOD ARE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PROGRAM 'EM OURSELVES.

YEAH.

BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAID KENWOOD, MY EARS LIT UP A LITTLE BIT WHEN THAT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT NOT ALL OF 'EM WORK WELL TOGETHER.

CORRECT? YEP.

OH, I KNOW THAT OURS HAVE GONE UP IN QUITE A BIT IN PRICE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, I KNOW THE SYSTEM THAT THE SHERIFF HAS NOW, UH, THEY PUT THAT IN.

IT'S, IT, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS TO THAT SYSTEM.

OH YEAH.

IT'S GOOD.

I MEAN IT'S, IT, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED YOU AND YOU CHECK AND YOU CHECK WITH THEM AND THEY GOT YOUR PRICES FOR IT, THE SHERIFF? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

SO, UM, A AND CRANDALL FIRE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY USES THESE KENWOOD RADIOS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

SO WE KNOW IT WILL WORK ON A SYSTEM.

OKAY.

UH, OF COURSE WE HAVE THE, THE ADDITION OF HAVING TO RESPOND IN TO FORNEY'S AREA AND THEY'RE ON THAT GMRS SYSTEM.

SO WE HAVE TO WORK BETWEEN BOTH SYSTEMS. YEAH.

SO NEY COMMISSIONER, THEY COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

, WELL, THE COMMISSIONER, I MEAN THE COMMISSIONER OVER THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, BUT NOTHING ON YEAH, I HEARD FORNEY FORNEY'S USING THE, UM, ARE THEY USING KENWOOD? UH, I THINK THEY'RE USING, I SAY THEY USING MOTOROLA.

YEAH, THEY'RE USING MOTOROLA.

OKAY.

YEP.

AND I THINK WE HAD A PROBLEM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MOTOROLA INTER CHIMES WITH OURS.

IT VERY WELL, I THINK IT, IT CHIMES WITH THE, WITH THE CONSOLES.

CORRECT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT CHIMES WITH THE RADIO.

YEAH.

THEY ALL SHOULD NOW I THOUGHT THEY PASSED ALONG AFTER NINE 11 INTEROP SAYING THAT ALL OF 'EM ARE SUPPOSED TO INTERACT WITH ALL OF 'EM.

RIGHT.

SO INTEROPERABILITY PLANS THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW TOOK CARE OF A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.

YEAH.

UH, SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT VENDOR WE GO WITH, WE SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE GOOD.

OKAY.

BUT YOU JUST CHECK IT OUT ANYWAY.

I JUST MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, GOOD DEAL.

GET WITH OUR RADIO GUY EVERY WHO ABSOLUTELY.

WHO IT IS.

IS IT BEN? IS IT? YEAH, BEN CHEF.

YEAH.

SO GET WITH BEN AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S KOSHER.

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SURE.

AND UH, YOU'VE GOT GAS OIL UP A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS OBVIOUS.

YEP.

UH, MAKES SENSE THERE.

UM, ALRIGHT, NOW YOU GOT CANINE OPERATING EXPENSE.

YES.

SO WE ARE DECREASING THAT.

LAST YEAR WE HAD THE PURCHASE OF THE CAN NINE UHHUH, UH, WHICH WAS THE BIG EXPENSE.

SO WE'VE DECREASED THAT NOW JUST AS A MAINTENANCE.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT VET BILLS FOOD FOR Y SO YOU'RE GOING FROM 15 DOWN TO 4,000.

CORRECT.

THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

THE OF THE DOG IS AN EXPENSIVE PRICE.

YEAH, IT IS.

IT IS.

ALL THE TRAINING THAT WENT WITH THE DOG.

SO WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL INCREASE? UH, SO WE ARE, UM, OR WELL IT LOOK MAYBE A DECREASE.

YEAH.

IF I SAY IT'S ACTUALLY DECREASE.

RIGHT.

11 DOWN 7,000 6 62 MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S RIGHT.

MM-HMM.

.

OH NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THAT'S SIX MONTH TOTALS.

THAT'S SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY'VE DONE.

HANG ON.

LESS FIVE 10 REVISED BUDGET.

SO IT'LL BE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 40.

IS THAT ABOUT 40? ABOUT 40.

OKAY.

AND MOST OF THAT'S GONNA BE IN RADIOS AND GAS AND OIL.

CORRECT.

WE DO HAVE AN INCREASE IN UNIFORMS. WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE OUR GUYS HAVE CLASS A UNIFORMS FOR COURT, UM, FUNERALS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO.

OKAY.

THAT IS A BIG, BIG COST.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US? UH, I THINK THAT IS IT.

NOTHING CHANGES WITH OUR TCO TRAINING FUND.

UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE IT.

DID YOU, UH, DO THIS UH, SALARY STUDY ON YOUR OWN OR IS THIS THROUGH SOME UH, THIS IS THROUGH MY OWN.

UH, SO I LOOKED AT TC UH, FP JOB POSTINGS THAT ARE UP THERE RIGHT NOW.

UH, REACHED OUT TO SOME OTHER COUNTIES IN THE AREA TO SEE WHAT THERE'S, ARE YOU CHE COUNTY OUR SIZE WITH TAX BASE? UH, YES.

AND AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WITH THAT IS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT POPULATION DENSITY DIDN'T AFFECT, UM, WHERE THAT SALARY RANGE IS.

SO THAT SALARY RANGE THAT'S THERE, UH, IS VALID FOR THAT POPULATION DENSITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE.

SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY, UH, IF YOU HAVE THAT POSITION, THAT'S WHAT THE GOING RATE IS FOR IT.

SO WE JUST, UM, YOUR HONOR, WE'VE DONE SO MANY HAVE COME TO US WITH SURVEYS.

CORRECT.

BUT TO BE FAIR, YOU CAN'T COMPARE US WITH DALLAS COUNTY.

RIGHT.

THERE'S JUST NO WAY.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, ELLIS COUNTY IS COMPETITOR ROCKWALL.

RIGHT.

THAT'S OUR TWO CLOSEST SURE.

THAT WE HAVE TO COMPARE TO.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO I INCLUDED ROCKWALL, UH, ELLIS COUNTY, UH, VAN Z COUNTY EVEN, UM YEAH.

TO TRY TO MAKE SURE IT'S A, A GOOD EVEN DISTRIBUTION.

OKAY.

WELL YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID THIS UH, SALARY STUDY, WHAT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO? I GUESS IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT DIDN'T GO OUT, GO OVER TOO WELL.

UH, BUT UH, I'M, I'M, I HAVEN'T CHECKED INTO IT, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT TAC OFFERS, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THEY CAN DO LIKE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY BASED ON, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOUR POPULATION AND ALL THAT.

I THINK IRMA'S LOOKING INTO THAT, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF WHATEVER ELSE IS OUT THERE THAT TAC WORK ON THAT FOR US.

'CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT MOST COUNTIES ARE DOING AND SHE'S ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO, EVERYONE'S WANTING TO GO FROM A CLERK ONE TO A CLERK THREE.

YEAH.

THAT WAS DESIGNED YEARS AGO FOR SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NOT USED TODAY.

AND SO A MORE IN DEPTH STUDY IS TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLERK IN THIS OFFICE, CLERK TOWN OFFICE, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DO.

I MEAN, I DON'T CARE HOW BUSY YOU ARE.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU COME TO WORK, IT'S, SOME ARE JUST NOT THAT BUSY OF AN OFFICE.

SOME ARE VERY BUSY, SO.

RIGHT.

BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE RESPONSIBILITY.

CORRECT.

YEP.

'CAUSE YOU'RE BUSY.

RIGHT.

ONE THING WE'VE DONE IN OUR OFFICE IS LIKE, CHRISTIE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH HEADING UP PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR US.

UH, SHE, WE ACTUALLY GOT CERTIFIED AS A PUBLIC, UM, EDUCATOR, FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY EDUCATOR.

UM, AND SO I'LL BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET HER A INCREASE IN SALARY AS THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES INCREASE FOR HER.

NO, SOME DEPARTMENTS WE DO PAY FOR CERTIFICATE PAY, STUFF LIKE THAT.

RIGHT.

SOMETHING WE GOTTA LOOK AT.

SURE.

AND PAUL, I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU ON FUND 10 AND FUND 49, YOU MAY HAVE A VALID REASON, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY, OR WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON TO HAVE IT SEPARATED? LIKE YOU HAVE THE PAYROLL SALARY STUFF HERE, BUT MAJORITY OF YOUR STUFF'S IN, IN THE FIRE CODE FUND ANYWAY.

SO IS THERE A REASON THERE'S TWO OF THESE HERE OR CAN YOU MOVE THAT OTHER ONE OVER? JUST HAVE ONE.

SO, UH, ORIGINALLY A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IN THE FIRE CODE FUND WERE ACTUALLY IN GENERAL FUND.

AND SO WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, THAT WAS A, A GOAL FOR ME TO MOVE THINGS OUTTA GENERAL FUND OVER TO FIRE CODE FUND.

SO IT WOULD BE FULLY, BASICALLY ALL OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES BESIDES SALARIES WOULD BE COVERED UNDER FIRE CODE FUND.

UH, THE, I'M KIND OF SETTING A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH WE SPEND OUT A FIRE CODE FUND BASED ON WHAT OUR REVENUE IS.

UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL REVENUE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM PERMITS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH OUR OFFICE.

AND IT'S EASIER TO TRACK EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

YES, YES.

SO IT'S THE TRUE PICTURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, YOU'RE PAYING, YOU'RE PAYING FOR YOURSELF.

EXACTLY.

YOU'RE

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TRYING TO FUND YOUR WHOLE OPERATION OR, OR AS MUCH OF IT AS YOU CAN.

WELL, THEY HAVE SOME RULES.

THEY PERMITS SO MANY, THEY SO MUCH THINGS THEY CAN PAY IT.

NOT EVERYTHING THEY CAN PAY OUT OF IT.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

UM, AND IT LEAVES YOU A BALANCE RIGHT? IN THE FIRE FUND.

IT DOES.

YEP.

SO THAT, THAT ROLLS OVER.

UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO, UH, TREASURER'S OFFICE ABOUT PUTTING SOME OF THAT INTO AN INVESTMENT ACCOUNT SO THAT THAT IS OCCURRING SOME INTEREST AS WELL.

MAYBE GROW, ESPECIALLY WHILE THE INTEREST, BASICALLY, WHILE THE INTEREST IS HIGH, IT'S UP.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MAKES, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF ACCOUNTS RIGHT NOW AND IT IT'S SAVING US A LOT OF DOLLARS.

YEAH.

NOW WHAT ABOUT THE, SO YOU DO WANT TO KEEP THE SEPARATE FUND 10 AND FUND 40 MILLION? I THINK YOU HAVE TO.

YOU HAVE TO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PAY FOR EVERYTHING OUT FIRE FUND.

OKAY.

THAT'S REVENUE TO COMING.

YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A STATE ONLY STATUTE WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION FROM THAT.

I JUST WANTED I SEE.

I SAW BOTH THE FUNDS.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A, WHAT THE, THE REASONING WAS ON IT.

SO, GOOD QUESTION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, PAUL.

THANKS.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS.

WHAT TIME MR. HUY SUPPOSED TO ON SUPPOSED TO BE TILL 10 O'CLOCK.

10.

YOU? I TOLD HIM HE, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T BE DOWN THERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK.

MR. HUY HAS GRACIOUSLY APPEARED.

, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK Y'ALL.

AND WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION YOU WANT TO SHARE.

SO WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

WELL, UH, ESSENTIALLY IF YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS THAT ARE CHANGING ONLY IF IT'S NOT CHANGING, WE, WE OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT, UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS BASICALLY THE BUDGET IS NOT CHANGING.

UH, FOR THE MOST PART.

THE, THE ITEMS THAT BIGGEST, THOSE TWO WORDS DON'T GO TOGETHER.

NOT CHANGING IN MOST PART.

WELL, YEAH.

UH, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SUBSIDY FOR EMS $250,000.

IT STARTED AT A MILLION, BUT WE GOT IT DOWN TO $250,000 A YEAR.

UH, BECAUSE WE NEED SOME MORE RESOURCES.

AND WITH THE STATE OF ALL EMS AGENCIES, UH, THIS IS THE PRUDENT THING FOR US TO DO, TO KEEP GOOD QUALITY MS CARE AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY.

UH, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, UH, MEDSTAR IN FORT WORTH IS GETTING ABSORBED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

A MR, WHICH IS NATIONWIDE, IS FILED BANKRUPTCY.

A LOT OF 'EM ARE GOING UNDER BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE FEDERAL RULES HAVE CHANGED.

CARE FLIGHT IS STILL IN GOOD SHAPE.

BUT FEDERAL RULES CHANGED.

IS IS LIKE, IS THIS BILLING, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OR IT'S THAT, UH, NO SURPRISE BILLING LAW, WHICH HAS AFFECTED THEM.

UH, IT'S ALREADY AFFECTED THE GROUND.

THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THEIR AIR, BUT THAT'S THE REASON THAT THEY'VE ASKED US TO CONSIDER A SUBSIDY AND WELL, THE CITY'S GONNA PITCH IN ON THIS ALSO.

IS THIS JUST THE COUNTY THIS TIME? IT'S JUST THE COUNTY.

IT, UH, THERE'S NO TIME TO TRY AND PUT ANYTHING TOGETHER TO GET THEM TO BUY IN ON IT.

BUT I WOULD SAY IN THE FUTURE, WE START BRINGING CITIES INTO THIS TO HELP, HELP, YOU KNOW, DEFRAY SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THE COUNTY.

COULDN'T WE USE THE SAME PERCENTAGES THAT WE DO NOW FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES? UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERCENTAGE.

EVERYBODY'S ZERO SUBSIDY.

UH, NO.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS RIGHT NOW EACH CITY IS PAYING, UH, MONEY TO CARELY.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO.

OR IS IT STRICTLY ON MEMBERSHIP ONLY? THEY'RE DOING IT ZERO SUBSIDY.

COUNTYWIDE.

OKAY.

AND OF COURSE THEY GOT THE MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM, RIGHT.

SO THERE'S NO MONEY INVOLVED.

NO.

WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD.

WE'VE BEEN LIKE THIS FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

YEAH.

AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ASKED FOR SUBSIDY.

UH, CONTRACT WILL RENEW IN MARCH AND NEXT YEAR.

NEXT YEAR.

SO WE REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY UNTIL, UNTIL THAT TIME.

SO ESSENTIALLY FIVE MONTHS.

WELL, WE'RE SIX MONTHS INTO THE, WELL, FIVE MONTHS INTO THE BUDGET IN MARCH OF NEXT YEAR.

YEAH.

SO WE WOULDN'T REALLY START PAYING IT UNTIL MARCH.

I'LL BE EVERYBODY ELSE IS, I MEAN, WE STARTED KIND OF EARLY, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS ALSO DOING BUDGET STUFF.

ALL THE, ALL THE CITIES.

ALL THE CITIES ARE.

YEAH.

SO MAYBE WE NEED TO REACH OUT AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK SO.

OKAY.

I DO.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE I MEAN THEY'RE IN THE SAME, THEY'RE JUST GETTING STARTED ALSO.

SO, AND I THINK THEY BENEFIT FROM THIS JUST LIKE THE COUNTY FOLKS, BUT I DON'T THINK ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE ON THE COUNTY'S BACK.

BUT TERRELL, LIKE TERRELL HAS THEIR OWN CONTRACT.

TERRELL AND KAUFMAN ARE UNDER THEIR OWN CONTRACTS.

THEY HAVE THEIRS.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY NINE.

RIGHT.

BUT IF CAREF FLIGHT

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IS NEEDING A SUBSIDY, WELL IT CAREF FLIGHT GOING TO ASK THEM TO ON THEIR CONTRACTS TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT OR THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT.

UH, WE NEED TO FIND OUT.

I'LL FIND OUT.

UM, BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT IN LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS THE BEST OPTION FOR US.

HOWEVER, I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO GET THE CITIES TO CHIP IN AS WHEREVER THEY CAN.

WE'VE GOT SOME PER CAPITA NUMBERS THAT WE CAN USE FOR THEM TO HELP PAY, UH, A PORTION OF IT.

WELL, IT AFFECTS US ALL.

YES, SIR.

AND WE NEED TO KEEP GOOD QUALITY AND THE SERVICE HERE.

AND SO IT WOULD BENEFIT THEM AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE.

SO YES SIR.

UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

WE ALL NEED TO SHARE.

OKAY.

INSTEAD OF JUST ON OUR BACK.

IT'S MY THOUGHT.

NOT A PROBLEM.

WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, I CAN HANDLE IT.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? UM, MIKE, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING BEFORE? WELL, I GUESS THE CONTRACTS, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITIES ARE ACTUALLY PAYING THEM A FEE OR IF IT'S JUST RESPONSE TIMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE CONTRACTS.

EVERYBODY EXCEPT TERRELL AND KAUFMAN FALL UNDER OUR CONTRACT.

SO IT'S, BUT I, LIKE I SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF TERRELL AND KAUFMAN ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FEES TO CARELY.

NOT AT THIS TIME THAT I KNOW OF.

YEAH.

THE CONTRACT IS JUST ON TIME RESPONSE AND NUMBERS OF UNITS AND YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE, THE FISCAL STUFF WE CAN TALK ABOUT WITH THEM.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND I WILL GET WITH THE CITIES TO GET SOME BUY-IN.

UH, THE OTHER MAY, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO CHANGE IS WE'RE STILL CARRYING TIFFANY FALWELL AS A CLERK.

SHE, UM, REQUESTING HER TITLE CHANGE AT THE VERY LEAST TO SENIOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST.

SHE IS DOING THE WORK COMPARABLE TO ALL OTHER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALISTS ACROSS THE STATE AND REGION.

SHE'S TAKING CARE OF OUR CRI PROGRAM, GETTING THE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THAT.

SHE'S DOING ALL OF THE WORK WITH OUR, UH, INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANT ENTRIES AND PUBLIC ASSISTANT ENTRIES IN THE DISASTER THAT'S ONGOING.

I'M SORRY, I GOTTA GET THIS ONE.

OKAY.

UH, SHE IS, UH, DOING ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND PUBLIC INFORMATION STUFF.

SHE DOES ALL OF OUR PLAN, UH, PLANNING FOR OUR EXERCISES.

SHE'S WAY BEYOND A CLERK.

SO WE AT LEAST NEED THE, THE TITLE CHANGE TO A SENIOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST.

AND I AM PERSONALLY ASKING FOR, UH, ADJUSTMENT IN HER SALARY FROM 48,000 APPROXIMATELY TO 58,000 SO THAT IT'S COMPARABLE.

AND THAT IS THE VERY LOW END OF EVERY OTHER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST IN THE STATE.

AND BOTH CASEY AND I HAVE, UH, GOT TOGETHER AND WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING.

WE WANT TO GET TIFFANY WHERE SHE NEEDS TO BE.

AND WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING.

WE WANT HER TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND GET WHAT SHE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE IN THE JOB THAT SHE'S DOING.

SO THAT'S MY PLEA THERE.

AND WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT ACROSS THE REGION AND THE STATE AND THE VERY BOTTOM END IS 58,000.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING HER UP TO WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE STARTS.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES Y'ALL DO SALARY STUFF DIFFERENT, BUT THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED FOR BEFORE.

I'M ASKING FOR IT AGAIN.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL WILL PLEASE CONSIDER DOING THIS SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF HER.

UH, SHE'S A GREAT EMPLOYEE AND UH, REALLY NEEDS THIS.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF NOTHING ELSE, IF WE CAN GET THE TITLE CHANGED, SHE'S OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT ALSO.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, MOST OF THE ITEMS IN MY BUDGET ARE NOT CHANGING.

UH, IF YOU LOOKED AT IT, WHAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR, WE'RE JUST KEEPING EVERYTHING THE SAME.

I THINK WE CAN MANAGE ANOTHER YEAR AT THIS LEVEL WITH THESE, THESE PRICES OR THESE, UH, UH, MY BRAIN QUIT WHATEVER YOU CALL 'EM.

MONEY YOU GIVE US .

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ADJUSTMENT FOR TIFFANY AND THEN THE, UH, SUBSIDY FOR EMS ARE THE TWO, TWO DIFFERENCES ON OUR BUDGET.

I DID NOT, I DIDN'T NOTICE ON THE SALARY.

SAYS HE DID.

HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY COUNTIES FOR THAT.

RIGHT.

AGAIN, SIR, ALL CITY, ALL CITIES WITH A SALARY ADJUSTMENT.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY COUNTIES.

MY HEARING IS GOING CRAZY.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY COUNTIES.

THEY'RE ALL CITIES.

THAT, THAT CITIES.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, AND IT MAY NOT HAVE COME THROUGH THAT IS COUNTIES.

COUNTIES TOO.

BUT THAT

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YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT IS JUST CITIES.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU THIS 'CAUSE I KNOW THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY ASKED, UH, IRMA TO LOOK INTO THIS AND TO DO, UH, COMPARABLE STUDIES NOT ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE CLERKS AND ON THAT.

SO I'M I'M SAYING THAT SHE'S GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GET WITH HER.

AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WELL, HE ONLY HAD CITIES IN HERE.

AND HE SAID WE HAD ONE IN THE COUNTY, BUT I DIDN'T GET IT IN THERE.

OH, OKAY.

I I MAY HAVE MISSED IT OR MAY MAY NOT HAVE.

SO PUT BOTH PAGES IN THERE.

BUT YOU HEARD WHAT I SAID BECAUSE REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID.

YEAH.

IRMA'S GOING TO WORK ON ALL THIS FOR US, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

A AND, AND I WILL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A HR PERSON FOR NOW.

YEP.

AND I'LL GET THE, THE GET WITH HER AND, AND LET'S SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT AND HERE'S, HERE'S, AND WE CAN DO THIS CLERK 1, 2, 3 THING.

YES SIR.

I'M NOT SURE.

I WASN'T HERE WHEN IT WAS INSTIGATED, SO I DON'T KNOW THE PURPOSE BEHIND IT OR REASON BEHIND IT.

SOME IS PROBABLY VALID, SOME MIGHT NOT BE.

UH, BUT WE KNOW WHEN WE OPEN PANDORA'S BOX, EVERYBODY'S GOING GO TO A ONE, TWO, A THREE.

WELL, HE IS JUST WANTING TO CHANGE HER STATUS TO A DIFFERENT JOB NUMBER.

RIGHT.

AND I AND I, SAME THING.

AND I I GET THAT.

YEAH.

UH, BUT IT, IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON.

AND CAN WE, AND CAN WE, UM, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE TWO 50 AND I'D REALLY LIKE FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO, IF SHE HADN'T ALREADY, PUT IT IN A BUDGET, FIGURE IT IN A BUDGET AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH IT.

YEAH.

UH, YOU NEED FOR THAT, UH, YEAH.

FOR CARE.

YEAH.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SUCKS.

IT IS.

IT'S INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND.

IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S INCLUDED.

BUT I, I HAVE TALKED WITH BRANDY ABOUT IT.

GOOD.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY, BECAUSE, OKAY, ANOTHER QUESTION IS ON THE SUBSIDY.

YES SIR.

WOULD IT HAVE TO BE RENEGOTIATED EVERY YEAR? WOULD AN ANNUAL DEAL WILL BE MULTIPLE YEARS.

IT'LL BE MULTIPLE YEARS, BUT IF IT DOESN'T START UNTIL MARCH, SO WE GOT FIVE MONTHS, WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING TO PAY THE 250,000.

SO, AND THEY AGREED TO ACCEPT THE MONTHLY CHECK INSTEAD OF PAYING IT ALL AT ONCE.

YEAH, WE SAW THAT.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

THE 420,000 , THAT'S .

YEAH, THAT'S A LOT.

YOU MOVED A DESK OVER SO FAR, , YOU'RE GOOD.

AND I CAN CONFIRM WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS JUST NOW, UM, AND SEPARATED OUT THE GRANTS.

UM, AND HIS, HIS OPERATING BUDGET AFFECTED BY THE GENERAL FUND STAYED THE SAME FROM LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD DEAL.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY CHANGE OF THAT IS THE PERSONNEL ONE POSITION.

AND, AND AGAIN, IF WE CAN JUST DO THE TITLE CHANGE, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

OKAY.

I, I MEAN SHE'S DOING THE WORK OF AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST AND WE DON'T NEED HER HAVING THE TITLE OF CLERK BECAUSE SHE'S WAY, WAY ABOVE THAT.

AND YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT, I'LL GET YOU EVERYTHING I CAN MUSTER TO MAKE SURE I CAN DOCUMENT.

WELL, YOU SPELLED OUT IN HERE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN, UH, JOB DUTIES ARE.

YES, SIR.

SO I I DO, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT, THAT THE YOUNG LADY HAS, UH, REALLY, UH, BOUGHT INTO, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND I THINK SHE'S HOOKED.

AND I THINK SHE WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND GET HER FOUR YEAR DEGREE AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS AS A, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOUNG, YOU KIND OF FLOAT AROUND UNTIL YOU FIND THAT THING THAT CATCHES YOU.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK THIS IS THAT THING THAT'S CAUGHT HER.

YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK SHE'S REALLY DEDICATED IN TRYING TO SURE.

BE THE BEST SHE CAN.

SO.

RIGHT.

SHE'S, SHE'S ALREADY COMPLETED HER PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SERIES WITH FEMA AND THE ADVANCED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SERIES WITH THEM.

AND SHE IS STARTING TO GO TO COLLEGE TO GET HER, UH, BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

OKAY.

WELL THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

SHE MAY TAKE YOUR JOB SOMEDAY.

, THAT'S FINE.

IF I HAVE ANY MORE WEEKS LIKE THIS ONE, I I'M GONNA BE DOING IT QUICKER THAN LATER.

, YOU'LL BE READY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.

STEVE, YOU DOING, YOU'VE BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY RECENTLY.

MY GOODNESS.

UH, SHARE WITH THE GUYS.

YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GENERATORS FOR ALL THE FACILITIES BECAUSE HAVING OUR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS DOWN DURING EMERGENCY IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.

THE GENERATOR OVER TO JUSTICE CENTER IS ONLY, IT'S ONLY 250 UH, KILOWATT MACHINE.

IT WILL ONLY DO EMERGENCY SERVICE TYPE STUFF.

YOU HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMPUTERS.

NO AIR CONDITIONING, NO HEATING, NO PHONES.

IT DOES THE EMERGENCY LIGHTING AND FREIGHT ELEVATOR.

AND IT WAS ONE OTHER THING.

IT DID NOT MUCH.

SO YOU CAN'T WORK.

WELL THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IF OUR PHONES ARE DEAD AND COMPUTERS ARE DEAD, EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY TO FIGURE OUT SOME SOFTWARE TO BLOCK THE CALLS.

HAVE ABOUT 9 MILLION CALLS AFTER A WEEK AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO WORK.

WELL THE THING

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IS, WE NEED A GENERATOR TO RUN SURE.

TO RUN THE FACILITY PLUS ALL OTHER, JUST LIKE SOUTH CAMPUS, THEY'RE HAVING A VERY HARD TIME OVER THERE.

YOU CAN'T WORK.

YOU'RE DEAD.

WE'RE DEAD DEAD.

WE CAN'T WORK.

WE CAN'T DO THAT.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY SINCE ELECTIONS IS THERE.

IT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.

THE SUB COURTHOUSES THEY NEED TO BE UP AND RUNNING.

SO UNDER THE MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH AFTER EVERY FEDERALLY DECLARED DISASTER, THEY PROVIDE MONEY FOR MITIGATION.

UH, WE'VE GOT IT IN OUR MITIGATION PLAN THAT WE CAN GET GENERATORS FOR OUR FACILITIES.

THERE'S A SPECIAL KIND OF ROAD FOR THAT UNDER MITIGATION TO GET GENERATORS.

AND ONCE THAT OPENS UP, WE CAN START, YOU KNOW, FILING THE APPLICATIONS FOR GENERATORS FOR ALL OF THEM.

WE MAY NOT GET, GET 'EM ALL AT THE FIRST TIME, BUT WE CAN KEEP GOING AT IT UNTIL WE GET ONE EVERYWHERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

AND I WOULD SAY THE FIRST ONE IS TO UPSIZE THE ONE AT THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER.

GET ONE BIG ENOUGH TO CARRY EVERYTHING AT 110%.

YES.

AND THEN TAKE THAT ONE AND MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE SIZE.

YEAH, SURE.

UH, BUT I, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OFFICE WHERE IT WORKED, THE TAX OFFICE AND EVERYTHING, AT LEAST WE COULD TELL PEOPLE, HEY, YOU COULD GO TO THIS ONE AND IT WILL WORK.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE MOST OF 'EM NOT GONNA BE DOWN FOR MULTIPLE DAYS.

THAT'S GONNA BE A REAL RARE THING.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE THIS ONE HERE, YOU THINK THE SOUTH CAMPUS, WE'VE GOT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER WITHOUT ANY POWER.

THE LIBRARY WITHOUT ANY POWER APPRAISALS, DISTRICT POWER.

UH, WE DO WITH ALL THE KIDS.

THEY CAN'T STAY IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION.

HOW YOU GOING TO FEED 'EM? THEY'RE STILL DOWN.

YES, THEY ARE.

OKAY.

I'LL TAKE, I'LL GET WITH ENCO TO SEE IF I CAN'T PUSH THAT TO GET IT UP.

THIS IS CRAZY.

OKAY.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS RESPOND.

BUT MAYBE I CAN COERCE 'EM INTO GETTING OVER THERE AND GETTING THAT ONE BACK UP.

BUT IT WOULDN'T TAKE THAT BIG OF A GENERATOR TO OPERATE THE CHILDREN SHELTER.

YES SIR.

THAT, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH NEEDED OVER THERE.

SO.

OH.

UM, WE CAN DO THAT.

SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 60 TO 70 TEXAS STATE GUARD TROOPS HERE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT DOING ESTIMATIONS ON OUR DEBRIS.

INITIAL GUESSTIMATE, IF YOU WILL, IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND 50,000 CUBIC FEET OF DEBRIS.

AND THAT'S JUST THE BRUSH.

UH, SO WE'RE, UM, THEY'RE GOING OUT HELPING US WITH THAT.

AND THEY'RE ALSO FINISHING UP SOME DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS IN AND AROUND THE FORNEY AREA THAT GOT MISSED.

SO, UH, T DM AND THE TEXAS STATE GUARD HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD GETTING US OKAY.

THE HELP WE NEED ON THAT.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING IN A BIG CHIPPING MACHINE WHERE WE CAN CHIP A LOT OF THIS STUFF UP AND LET THE CITIZENS HAVE IT FOR THEIR FLYER BEDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT AND HAVE TO GO BURN IT IN A BIG PILE? I MEAN, IT'D BE A HUGE PILE.

THERE'S JUST NO WAY.

JUDGE, I HAVE A, EVERY YEAR I HAVE A MIS MY MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM.

WE HAVE IT FOR THAT.

I HAVE A GENTLEMAN COMES OVER WITH A BIG SHREDDER 'CAUSE WE STORE ALL OF OUR BRUSH AT LOCATION NORTH OF KEMP AND, UH, LEASE A PLACE THERE.

SO ALL THE BRUSHERS.

SO EVERY YEAR HAVE HIM COME IN AND UH, HE'LL GRIND UP SO MANY CUBIC FEET.

BUT WE HAVE THE ENTIRE COUNTY THOUGH.

YEAH.

SO I HAVE PRECINCT A CONTACT FOR HIM.

OKAY.

IF SOMEONE THAT'S CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

SO WE, WE IS REIMBURSABLE, WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE FEMA GUIDELINES.

OKAY.

BUT THEY'LL REIMBURSE US 75% OF THAT.

UH, UNLESS WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT OF THEM.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE.

SO, BUT THEY WILL BE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THE, FOR THE CHIPPING AS OPPOSED TO TRENCH BURNING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WELL, WE JUST NEED A PLAN.

SO IF WE THE THING ABOUT IT IS IS I, I, I DISAGREE WITH, UH, I, WE, IF WE DO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY NEED TO TAKE THE STUFF, THE MULCH WITH 'EM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, WE TRIED THE MULCHING AND, AND IT STAYED DOWN AT THE CONVENIENCE STATION UNTIL THEY ROT.

OH, REALLY? WELL, BUT, BUT LIKE ON MY END OF THE TOWN, WE HAVE THAT.

WE ALREADY USE 'EM, WE TAKE INTEL MULCHING PLACE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE UNIVERSITY IN 5 48.

THEY GOT ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, AS BIG AS THIS BUILDING, , THEY SHOWED IT UP IN LIKE TWO SECONDS.

GONE .

AND IF, IF THEY'LL PAY US, THEN WE CAN KEEP OUR TICKETS.

MAYBE EVERYBODY CAN TAKE IT THERE.

WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS, WELL THE GENTLEMAN THAT WE USED, THEY'VE GR THEY'VE SHRED IT AND THEY REMOVE IT.

IT ALL LEAVES.

THEY, WELL, ONE THING THAT I NEED TO MENTION IS WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY CUBIC YARD OF DEBRIS MOVED, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR IT.

YES.

UH, VEHICLE, WE USE THE FEMA RATES ON OUR VEHICLES AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND WE ALSO NEED TO BE KEEPING TRACK OF THE FORCED ACCOUNT LABOR, MEANING THERE'S SALARIES AND BENEFITS SO WE CAN GET REIMBURSED ON THAT ALSO.

IT'S NOT EASY, BUT I THINK IN 2015 WE GOT PROBABLY A MILLION TO A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS BACK FROM FEMA.

UH, I

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WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND HELP MANAGE THIS.

THE, THEY WOULD GET THEIR MONEY FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT FEMA REIMBURSABLE.

OKAY.

SO THE COUNTY REALLY WOULDN'T BE OUT ANYTHING ON THAT.

OKAY.

UH, AND ONCE WE GET THAT TOGETHER, I'LL ASK Y'ALL FOR AN R TO LET JACK AND THEM DO AN RFP AND SURE.

GET THAT DONE.

I'D GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ANYWAY.

YEAH.

NOW AND, AND, AND ARE THEY GOING AROUND LOOKING AT THE DEBRIS ON THE ROADS? THEY'RE LOOKING, LOOKING AT EVERY BIT OF DEBRIS IN EVERY PART OF THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN FIND.

OKAY.

'CAUSE I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN HAULING ALREADY OUT OFF OF 34TH, THE OLD FIRE TRAINING FIELD IN KAUFMAN.

OKAY.

AND THEY'RE ALSO HAULING.

THEY COULD GO RIGHT THERE AND LOOK.

YEP.

WE, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL PICK THAT UP.

THAT'S 'CAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY PICKING IT UP OFF THE ROAD, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE FULL PICTURE.

AND WHAT GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE GOING BY IS IF A TREE IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND FALLS ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY, WE ARE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE TREE.

IF IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY FALLS INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU SHOOT A LINE STRAIGHT UP THAT FENCE LINE, WHATEVER'S HANGING OVER INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

WE TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER'S ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE THEY TAKE CARE OF.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEP.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THAT'S JUST FOR FIGURES.

THOSE ARE JUST FOR FIGURING JUST FIGURES IN REALITY.

YOU JUST, YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS WHENEVER YOU'RE OUT THERE.

SO.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S JUST FOR THE FIGURES FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT.

AND, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, TEXAS BAPTIST MEN OR TEXANS OFFICE, WHATEVER THE NAME IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW DOING INDIVIDUAL HOMES, CLEARING TREES AND STUFF OFF OF HOMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, UH OH, I NEED THEM.

WE, YEAH, WE, WE CLEARED PEOPLE, UH, DRIVEWAY.

WE DIDN'T HAUL IT OFF, BUT WE, IF THEY ELDERLY AND CAN'T GET OUTTA THE DRIVEWAY, WE'LL CUT THE TREE.

YEAH.

WE'VE GOT ONE LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, BAPTIST MEN ARE GOING OVER THERE NOW TO YEAH.

CLEAR THAT DRIVEWAY.

IT'S A PRIVATE, PRIVATE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE.

WE COULD DO IT, BUT YEAH.

THEY WERE ALREADY SAFETY THEIR POWERS OUT AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE.

THEY GOTTA GET COOLED OFF.

THEY GOTTA, YOU GOTTA GET 'EM OUTTA THERE.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF BUDGET AND WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR DISASTER.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WHAT ELSE CAN I ANSWER? OR ANY, UH, NEWS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

WELL, FEMA HASN'T EVEN TOTAL INCLUDED US IN THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE.

REALLY.

THEY'RE DRAGGING THEIR FEET.

UH, WHO DO YOU NEED TO CALL? WE NEED TO CONTACT, UH, SENATOR CRUZ AND REPRESENTATIVE GOODEN, SEE IF THEY CAN'T PUT SOME PRESSURE ON FEMA TO APPROVE BOTH INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FOR OUR COUNTY.

OKAY.

WELL, CAN UH, KEITH HELP US WITH THAT? I'D PUT HIM ON IT.

HE, HE SEEMS TO BE DOING GOOD FOR US SO FAR.

OKAY.

YOU WANNA CALL HIM AND SEE? I GIVE HIM THE WRAP NAMES AND NUMBERS, PHONE NUMBERS.

I WILL DO THAT.

DID YOU HAVE 'EM? OKAY.

SEE IF WE CAN BRING SOME HEAT TO BEAR ON 'EM TO, TO GET 'EM TO COME ON AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'LL WORK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

TIME.

WE'RE GOOD ON ALL THE CHANGES.

MM-HMM.

.

EVERYBODY GOOD ON CHANGES? AND I'LL BE WITH CRYSTAL LATER ON SO WE CAN GET ALL OF OUR STUFF FOR THIS FEMA STUFF LINED UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU STEVE.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU'ALL.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO GUYS? NO, ABOUT, I THINK, UH, I THINK I'LL COMMENT ON REAL QUICK 'CAUSE I THINK ARM ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION FORMS, I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE APPROACH ME WITH THE FORMS AND FORMS THAT THEY'RE USING IS THE ONES THAT WE USE TO HIRE PEOPLE LIKE, UH, THAT SET ALL THESE GUIDELINES SO THAT WHEN A PERSON GETS HIRED, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, I CAN'T DO THAT.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

SO IF YOU, ALL THOSE STANDARDS ARE THERE, BUT THEY'RE USING THAT ALSO QUALIFY THEY'RE APPLICANTS FOR MORE MONEY.

I THINK IRMA REVAMPING THAT, GOING BACK THROUGH, THAT'S A VERY WISE DECISION.

IT IS.

OKAY.

SO TRY THAT WAS MY GRADE.

I LIKE THAT IT WAS WISE.

.

GOOD JOB, SIR.

AFTER I SUGGESTED IT TO HIM.

OH, OKAY.

GOOD JOB.

OKAY.

I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MADE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

TURN THAT OFF.

I SHOULD.