* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO ENTER [00:00:01] EXIT MEETING. UH, FIRST [1. To discuss the FY24-25 budget.] WE HAVE MS. BARDEN, MS. JUDGE BARDEN. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. OKAY, SO I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IF JUDGE TARNO HAS TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE NEW JUVENILE STUFF, I'M SURE THAT YOUR JUSTICE, THE PEACE HAS NOT TAUGHT YOU. 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T HANDLE MANY JUVENILES. SO THIS MAY BE NEW TO YOU, BUT THE LEGISLATURE, UM, DID A REAL NUMBER ON US. I KNOW THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2025, WE HAVE TO HANDLE OUR JUVENILES ALL DIFFERENTLY. UH, WE HAVE TO, IN JANUARY, EVERYBODY THAT GETS A CITATION FROM JANUARY ONE FORWARD WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR A, A NEWLY CREATED JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM. WHAT THAT PROGRAM ENTAILS IS IT'S A SUPERVISED PROGRAM. IF THEY NEED SERVICES, LIKE, IF THEY NEED A ANGER MANAGEMENT, IF THEY NEED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, IF THEY NEED, IF THEIR PARENTS NEED PARENTING CLASSES, IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING. UH, THE FOUR OF US HAVE A ADOPTED A PLAN, UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO FIND OUT WHAT PART THEY'RE GONNA PLAY. BASICALLY, IN A NUTSHELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, BUT THE STATUTE READS THAT IF A CITATION IS FILED, THEN WE HAVE TO SET THAT CASE FOR A HEARING LIKE WE NORMALLY DO, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO OFFER THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THE DIVERSION PROGRAM. IF THEY SAY THEY DO WANNA GO IN THE DIVERSION PROGRAM, WE DISMISS THAT CASE. THEN LATER, IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE THE DIVERSION PROGRAM, THEN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DECIDES WHETHER THEY WANT TO REFILE THAT CASE OR NOT. SO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH. BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF HOW THAT PROGRAM WILL HAVE TO WORK, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED IS, AND IT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE BETWEEN JUDGE TARNO AND MYSELF, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GREATEST NUMBERS OF JUVENILES. SHE HAS MORE THAN I DO, BUT ALL OF FORNEY HAD CONTINUED TO FILE ALL OF FORNEY ISD CONTINUED TO FILE WITH HER, EVEN THOUGH PART OF FORNEY ISD WAS IN PRECINCT THREE, THEY ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO FILE THERE. SO JUDGE JACKSON, I THINK, AND THIS IS NON TRAFFIC OFFENSES, THESE ARE DISORDERLY CONDUCTS, UM, VAPE PENS, UH, ANY, ANY ALCOHOL, ANYTHING THAT'S NON TRAFFIC. I THINK HE HAD SIX THAT WERE NON TRAFFIC. AND I THINK JOHNNY ADAMS HAD 34, UH, THAT WERE NON TRAFFIC. I HAD 218 AND JUDGE TARNO HAD A YEAR TO DATE, HAS HAD 234. BUT WHEN WE WENT BACK AND DID AN 18 MONTHS, SHE HAD HAD OVER 500. I KNOW. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER IN 40. WE HAVE TRIED, BEFORE WE CAME HERE TO, TO MEET WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS, I COULD NOT GET A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT UNTIL AUGUST THE EIGHTH. I'M GONNA MEET WITH KAUFMAN, ISD AND THEIR CHIEF OF POLICE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN FORMULATE AS FAR AS THE BEST PROCEDURE FOR THEM TO HAVE TO GET TO US. AND THAT PROGRAM, ALTHOUGH WE, I WOULD SAY THAT SCHOOLS CAN IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM THEMSELVES, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH KAUFMAN AND FORNEY WILL DO. MAYBANK HAS THEIR OWN PROGRAM. KEMP HAS A PROGRAM, TERYL AND CRANDALL, AND I'M ASSUMING SCURRY ROSSER, BECAUSE NONE OF US HAVE GOTTEN ANY NUMBERS FROM SCURRY ROSSER. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR TODAY, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL FORMING ALL OF THIS, UH, JUDGE CHERNO MET WITH FORNEY, UH, ISD POLICE CHIEF. HE'S NEW. HE WAS GONNA MEET WITH THE POWERS THAT BE IN FORNEY, BUT SHE'S NOT HEARD BACK FROM HIM YET AS TO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE TO DO. POLICE CHIEF AND KAUFMAN HAD PREVIOUSLY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GONNA HANDLE THE DISORDERLY CONDUCTS WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THIS COMING YEAR. SO THAT WOULD ONLY LEAVE THE VAPE PENS AND THE ALCOHOL, WHICH THAT'S PRIMARILY [00:05:01] WHAT, WHAT I GET OUT OF KAUFMAN ANYWAY. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS, UM, TO, TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE A POSITION IF WE NEED IT. BUT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET HERE AND WE DON'T KNOW, THEN WE'D ASK TO SET ASIDE MONEY, JUST LIKE Y'ALL SET ASIDE FOR THAT FIFTH JP THAT ENDED UP Y'ALL NOT, UH, NEEDING TO DO. AND SO WE'RE ASKING IF Y'ALL WOULD SET ASIDE A POSITION. UM, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE POSITION, UH, JUVENILE INSTEAD OF JUVENILE CASE MANAGER, WHICH THAT CONNOTATION MAKES THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THAT PERSON WOULD BE PAID WOULD HAVE TO BE GREATER. WE OPTED TO CALL IT A JUVENILE COURT CLERK. JUDGE TARNO AND I, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, WE'LL DECIDE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US, WHICH COURT IS GONNA BE DESIGNATED AS AS THE JUVENILE COURT. SHE'S STILL GONNA KEEP TRUANCY. BUT WE WILL DETERMINE BETWEEN SHE AND I, WHICH ONE OF THOSE, WHICH ONE OF OUR COURTS WILL HANDLE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. SO THAT PERSON, JUDGE TURNER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE IN A NEW BUILDING, BUT, UM, SEAN HAS OFFERED ME A DESK IN, IN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE IF NEED BE, AND SHE WILL WORK ON WHAT SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO. SHOULD SHE DECIDE, SHOULD WE DECIDE THAT SHE'S GONNA GONNA DO THAT? WE'RE GONNA CALL HIM A COURT CLERK, BUT WE WOULD ASK THAT THE SALARY BE THE SAME AS WHAT OUR COURT CLERKS MAKE, UM, AND BRAND'S OR NOBODY'S HERE. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW MUCH THAT IS, BUT I THINK IT'S WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. SEE, JUDGE, YEAH. SO THAT'S THE MAIN THING. WE'RE STILL IN. WE DON'T HAVE TO KICK IT OFF UNTIL JANUARY ONE, BUT IF WE DETERMINE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT, THEN WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO HIRE SOMEBODY, UH, IN EARLY DECEMBER BECAUSE THAT PERSON HAS TO GET TOGETHER PROGRAMS. WE'RE HOPING THAT FORNEY WILL DO A LOT OF THEIRS IN-HOUSE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT GRANT AND THAT GRANT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DESIGNATED TO DO SOME PROGRAMS. AND I THINK IN THEIR OC BUILDING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO ANGER MANAGEMENT AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE ANTICIPATE WOULD BE A PART OF OUR JUVENILE PROGRAM. SO, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'D BE JUST, DOES HOUSE BILL 31 86 MM-HMM. DOES IT, IT DEALS WITH MUNICIPAL COURTS AND JUST JP COURTS? YES. CAN WE GET THE MUNICIPAL, DOES THE MUNICIPAL COURTS HAVE THEIR OWN PEOPLE? INDIVIDUALS? THE MUNICIPAL COURTS DON'T REALLY HAVE, CAN WE JOINTLY FUND ONE OR IS WE COULD, BUT I'LL JUST TELL YOU JOHN BUR DOESN'T GET ANY OF THEM FOR KA IN KAUFMAN. OKAY. THE, ALL OF THE ONES FROM KAUFMAN ISD COME TO JUSTICE COURT, UM, IN FORNEY, THEY HAVE A FEW. MIKE SMITH NO LONGER GETS ANY OUT OF TERRELL BECAUSE THEY HANDLE 'EM IN-HOUSE. SO MOST OF THE MUNICIPAL COURTS DON'T HAVE THAT MANY NON TRAFFIC PENAL CODES. SO THEY WOULDN'T, THEY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EVEN HAVE TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S PRIMARILY, IT'S GONNA BE THROUGH THE JUSTICE COURT. . WELL, HERE AGAIN, ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE. ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE. YES. NOW, THIS IS ONLY PERTAINING TO THE SCHOOLS THOUGH, RIGHT? LIKE ISSUES AT THE SCHOOL HOUSE? I MEAN, NO, NO. IT'S, IT'S CITATIONS THAT THEY NORMALLY WRITE. NOW, THERE IS A PROCESS IF THEY WOULD DO IT THEMSELVES, THAT THEY COULD ESTABLISH THE JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM AND THEN ONLY FILE WITH THE COURT. IF THAT PERSON DIDN'T SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THAT DIVERSION PROGRAM, COULD WE NOT PUT THAT IN, IN PLAY? SO WE TAKE LESS OFF OF US? WE CAN. WE'RE TRYING. I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO IF WE CAN POSSIBLY DO IT. YES. AND WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING DECISION IN CASE THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH. YES, THAT'S TRUE. YES. YOU'RE NOT ELIMINATING, I DON'T WANNA COME TO YOU, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WORKLOAD. OH, YEAH. WORKLOAD. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT I DI I, WE DIDN'T WANT TO COME TO YOU IN NOVEMBER AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RIGHT. BEAR THE BRUNT OF THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT. AND, AND SO I DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT. WE'RE PAST BUDGET, AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING, HMM. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. AND WE, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. YES. I KNEW IT WAS COMING AND, AND PLANNING FOR IT. WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. [00:10:01] OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE HAVE NO CHOICE. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. YEAH. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS SUPPOSED TO ENTAIL. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE STAFF, STAFF THAT COULD JUST BE DESIGNATED TO DO THAT. RIGHT. NEITHER ONE OF US, THE THE TWO OF US HAVE THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JUDGE? PARDON? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. WHO ARE YOU? I REMIND YOU, THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY. WE'RE NOT SAYING OKIE DOKIE TO ANYTHING TODAY, BUT I UNDERSTAND. AND OKAY. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, MY BUDGET IS STAYING THE SAME. OUR SOLE FOCUS IS TO TRY AND GET TIFFANY FALWELL, OUR EMERGENCY SENIOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, GET HER CHA TITLE CHANGED FROM CLERK AT A BARE MINIMUM, BUT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TO GET HER SALARY ADJUSTED TO 58,000 OR SO, WHICH IS GONNA BE MORE ALONG THE LINES. IT'S STILL NOT GONNA BE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT IT'LL BE CLOSER TO WHAT OTHERS ARE PAYING. AS AN EXAMPLE, THE THREE CLOSEST COUNTIES TO US, WHICH WOULD BE ELLIS, HAYES, AND GRAYSON COUNTIES, RANGE BETWEEN 68,070 3000. TIFFANY'S AT ABOUT 48. AND WE'RE ASKING TO GO TO 58, WHICH IS ABOUT A $10,000 INCREASE. YEAH. AND WE'RE THINKING THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A MINIMAL IMPACT TO OUR COUNTY BUDGET, YET AT THE SAME TIME, GET HER INTO A RANGE THAT SHE COULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO STUFF WITHOUT HAVING TO PINCH PENNIES. AND WHAT, WHAT ARE, UH, OR YOU MENTIONED TWO OTHER COUNTIES NOT CLOSE TO US. WHAT IS, UH, HENDERSON ROCKWALL COUNTIES DOING? UM, I COULD NOT GET ANY INFORMATION FROM HENDERSON COUNTIES. OH, ROCKWALL IS ABOUT 69,000. OKAY. UM, SO, UH, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY USE ROCKWALL COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALLER AND POPULATION IS NOT QUITE AS, YOU KNOW, NOT IN THE SAME POPULATION, NOT THE SAME POPULATION, BUT, UH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IS PAYING MORE THAN WE ARE. AND WE'RE JUST WANTING TO GET HER WHERE SHE NEEDS TO BE. CASEY AND I BOTH AGREED THAT WE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING FOR US. WE JUST WANT TO TRY AND GET, GET TIFFANY WHERE SHE NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE SHE HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND CONTINUES TO EXCEL AND GROW IN HER POSITION. AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT THAT NEEDS SOME RECOGNITION AND THIS IS ONE WAY WE COULD DO THAT. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY, UH, PARTICULAR CERTIFICATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UH, SHE HAS COMPLETED HER PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SERIES AND IS WORKING ON HER ADVANCED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SERIES, AND SHE'S ALSO STARTING COLLEGE TO GET HER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEGREE. OKAY. SO SHE'S TRYING TO BETTER HERSELF IN THE PROFESSION. OKAY. AND SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, OUR THAT, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO GET TIFFANY WHERE SHE NEEDS TO BE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. STEVE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU BET. MS. EARLY DISTINGUISHED JUDGE AND DA THAT THE BEAT DOWN MORE. I DO. . THAT'S A TRICK, TRICK, TRICK, TRICK, TRICK. OH, WE LOVE YOU. THANK YOU. WE LIKE THE, WE LIKE THE ENTERTAINERS. LOVE YOU TOO. LIKE STOP. WE, I HAVE THE GOOD FORTUNE OF PRESENTING AFTER, DON'T EVER WANNA FORGET ABOUT COLLECTIONS. SO I JUST FOUND IT TO KIND BE KIND OF INTERESTING. IT'S JUST THE CRAZINESS OF THE, I THINK YOU, YOU'VE GOTTEN AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT GROWTH SINCE THAT HISTORICAL COMMISSION THING. BUT, UH, TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF THE GROWTH OF THE DA'S OFFICE, I'M GONNA GIVE Y'ALL A FLOW CHART TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT, AND THEN IT'LL BE, IT'S PRETTY SHORT. OKAY. LET'S SEE. WE WILL BREAK IT UP SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY NEXT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. YEAH. PAPER, AIRPLANES, PAPER. I MEAN, SO MUCH OF, I GUESS WE COULD, I DIDN'T EVEN, I'M BRINGING MY LAPTOP AND THEY COULD HAVE JUST WATCHED IT ON THERE. [00:15:19] SO LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND UNDERNEATH THAT IS JUST A FLOW CHART. SOME OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING YOU A HEADS UP ON A POSITION CHANGE AND IT WON'T BE A MONEY CHANGE. WHAT I'M REQUESTING, AND I'VE BEEN THE DA FOR 10 YEARS, AND MANY OF THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICES HAVE A FIRST ASSISTANT, OR WHAT THEY CALL A DEPUTY MARK MOFFITT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CRIMINAL CHIEF OVER THE CRIMINAL SECTION. BUT AS THE OFFICE GROWS, YOU NEED MORE SUPERVISORY. AND SO THE, THERE'S NO, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE MONEY. I'M SURE MARK WOULD LIKE MORE MONEY. I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT NOW, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FLOW CHART, I'M ACTUALLY ASKING TO CHANGE A TITLE AND HIS WOULD BE FIRST ASSISTANT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL MAKE SURE THAT BRANDY KNOWS. UM, SIMILAR WORK STILL HAS, TAKES CASES, BUT DOING MORE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONING, UH, THE CRIMINAL TRIAL CHIEF, UH, WILL BE REPLACED WITH SOMEBODY IN THE OFFICE. IT'S AN INTERNAL HIRE. AND THEN THAT PERSON WILL ALSO BE A COURT CHIEF AS WELL. SO IT'S, UH, TWO FUNCTIONS. SO SOME OF THESE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT FUNCTION IN BOTH ROLES. AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE IDEA WITH THE GROWTH. IF YOU LOOK IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CHART, WHAT WE CALL DEPUTY, WE JUST MADE THAT NAME UP, BUT IT'S, IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA. DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. IT ALWAYS BEEN, MICHELLE'S BEEN THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR YEARS. BUT FOR OUR OFFICE, WE DO, WE HAVE TO FILE TAXES, WE HAVE TO, UM, BE THE LIAISON WITH HR. WE HAVE TO MANAGE ALL THE SECRETARIES, IE OURS OR PARALEGALS. WE HAVE TO DO THE, UM, SOME MANAGEMENT FOR COLLECTION, SOME MANAGEMENT FOR THE CRIMINAL PARALEGALS AND THE CIVIL THAT HELP AND SUPPORT KAREN. THAT WAS JUST TOO MUCH. AND I THINK, JUDGE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE, AND OF COURSE THE VAC, THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATORS. SO WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THAT WAS AN ARRAY OF ABOUT 16, 18 PEOPLE. NO ONE PERSON CAN DO THAT. WELL. SO WE'RE GIVING Y'ALL A HEADS UP. WE'RE CHANGING THE MANAGEMENT TO GET MORE HANDS ON. I THINK WE'LL BECOME MORE EFFECTIVE WITHOUT NECESSARILY HIRING MORE PEOPLE. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS FOR THE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE, AND I'LL PROBABLY INTERVIEW WITHIN THE OFFICE, WE'RE GONNA PUT A SUPERVISOR OVER THE CRIMINAL. THIS MAKES SENSE. PARALEGALS A SUPERVISOR OVER INTAKE, A SUPERVISOR OVER, UH, THE COLLECTIONS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE WITH LYNN FANNON AND THEN THE CIVIL PARALEGAL. AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE ARE REALLY CHANGING. IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. IF YOU LOOK TO THE FAR LEFT, WE MADE WALTER HUEY, THE ASSISTANT, UM, CHIEF INVESTIGATOR THAT'S REALLY HELPED OUT WITH THE GROWTH AND THE INVESTIGATORS HELPED OUT MIKE. 'CAUSE IT ALSO FREES UP MIKE TO DO MORE ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS, WHICH AS Y'ALL KNOW, WITH THE SECURITY, HE HELPS OUT WITH THE SHERIFF WITH SOME OF THE THREAT ASSESSMENTS AND THE RISKS THAT HAPPENED. SO THAT GIVES HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE OF THAT. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT THAT OFFICE LOOKED LIKE. I, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WHEN I LOOK AT IT MYSELF. I MEAN, WE'RE UPWARDS OF 50 PEOPLE. AND IF YOU ADD IN, UM, THE COLLECTION WITH LYNN, IT'S OVER 60 PEOPLE THAT WE'RE MANAGING. AND WE REALLY EFFECTIVELY HAD ME, MIKE, AND THEN MICHELLE, MANAGING THE SECRETARIES. I MEAN, THAT, THAT JUST DIDN'T WORK. AND OF COURSE, MARK OVER THE CRIMINAL TRIALS. SO YOU CAN'T TOUCH EVERYBODY ANYMORE. WE USED TO, WE COULD SIT IN A ROOM AND ALL TALK. YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. THAT'S JUST WHERE WE ARE. AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT AND BE ORGANIZED. THE ONE THING THAT HAS HAPPENED IS, UH, WHEN I LOOKED AT, UH, THE STAFFING, WE'VE ADDED A GANG ATTORNEY, WE'VE ADDED FOR WITH Y'ALL'S, WITH THE GRANT, YOUR GENEROSITY IN HELPING WITH SUPPORTING THAT. YOU ALSO DID THE SAME THING WITH THE SPECIAL CRIME UNIT. OUR VICTIM'S UNIT, WHICH DOES OUR CHILD ABUSE CASES, WHICH YOU MIGHT HEAR A LOT ABOUT WHEN YOU READ THE PAPER. OR DIFFERENT MEDIA OUTLETS WITH THE, WITH OUR SHERIFF AND OUR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. COMBINE THAT WITH FAMILY VIOLENCE. WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, I FEEL LIKE A REAL ROBUST SECTION THAT DOES THAT. BUT WE'VE NEVER ADDED A PARALEGAL. SO WHAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO IS JUST PUT MORE WORK ON THE EXISTING PARALEGALS. AND SO IT, WHEN I, WHEN WE SAY AT THE TOP OF THAT, AN EXECUTIVE PARALEGAL, THEY ALSO HAVE FUNCTIONS IN COURTS. EVERYBODY HAS A FUNCTION. I DON'T HAVE A SECRETARY. NEVER REALLY, NEVER DID. IF, IF I HAVE A CASE, IT'S GONNA GET SUBSUMED INTO THE COURT. IT GOES INTO, BUT Y'ALL KNOW, I DON'T TRY AS MANY CASES, BUT THE CASES I END UP HANDLING ARE THE ONES [00:20:01] THAT WE GET APPOINTED ON. 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT, WHICH ARE THE PRO TEMS. AND SO I TRY, I HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THE TRAVELING, UNLESS IT'S A MISDEMEANOR OR SOMETHING. SO THAT, THOSE ARE CASES. I'VE GOT A HANDFUL, ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF THOSE. I'M DOING, I'VE, I'VE GOT ONE IN, UM, MINERAL WELLS. IT'S A LONG STORY. IT'S NOT ONE COUNTY OVER, BUT, UH, PARKER COUNTY SAID THEY COULDN'T DO IT AND TARRANT COUNTY WOULDN'T TAKE IT. SHE WAS A FRIEND OF MINE. SO I'M DOING IT FOR HER. AND IT'S A MURDER CASE. SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA. UM, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE DO NEED A PARALEGAL. WE WENT AHEAD AND BUILT IN WHAT, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME OF THOSE ARE THE BASE SALARY. IF THEY GET THE CERTIFICATE, SOME PEOPLE DO, SOME PEOPLE DROP OUT AND NEVER GET IT DONE. AND THEN WHAT WE THINK THE BENEFITS ARE, THAT'S THE SAME EQUIVALENT TO MAKE THESE SUPERVISORS, IF Y'ALL DON'T MAKE IT, I'M STILL GOING TO GIVE THEM THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES IF THEY APPLY FOR THOSE JOBS. I THINK IT'S FAIR IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY SHOW THAT YOU WOULD BE SUPERVISING. AND THIS IS THE ANTICIPATORY ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. IT'S NOT WHERE IT IS NOW. 'CAUSE I CAN JUST TELL YOU, IT'S KIND OF STRAIGHT UP THAT THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FOUR TO SIX PEOPLE TO SUPERVISE DEPENDING ON WHAT LEG IT'S UNDER. WE THINK IT'S REASONABLE. UH, FOR THE NUMBER, 3,500 CAME TO MIND. AND THAT WAS BASED ON A STAIR STEP OF WHERE MICHELLE IS. AND THAT SUPERVISOR WOULD BE 5,000 BASE BELOW HER. SO SHE'D BE ABOVE THAT. BUT IT'S STILL 5,000 BELOW HER SALARY THAT THAT WAS. SO IF YOU WANT THOSE EXACT NUMBERS, I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU. WE HAVE UNDER FIVE. IF THESE PEOPLE ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS, THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT MONEY TO BE THERE. AND, AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING FOR LAWYERS, BUT I DON'T HAVE THIS, THE, THE STATE BAR FOR THE PARALEGALS IS REALLY TRYING TO MAKE THAT A MORE ROBUST, I WOULD SAY THERE'S SOME TALK IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HAPPENING. THE PARALEGALS ACTUALLY DOING LEGAL WORK. IT'S ONE OF THEIR IDEAS. BUT THEY HAVE A VERY ROBUST, UH, PROGRAM FOR PARALEGALS. SO THE PEOPLE THAT APPLY AND HAVE A PARALEGAL CERTIFICATE, Y'ALL ALREADY PUT, GIVE THEM THE MONEY, BUT THEN IF THEY APPLY WITH THE BAR AND DO THE CONTINUING EDUCATION, I'M ASKING FOR 1500 FOR THAT. THEY ARE ARE ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH I'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT. SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANNA DO IT. THEY DON'T WANNA TAKE LEGAL HOURS LIKE ATTORNEYS DO. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO. THEN THERE'S A STATE BAR BOARD CERTIFICATION, CRIMINAL LAW, AND UM, THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN ATTORNEY BEING STATE BOARD CERTIFIED. UM, THERE AREN'T BUT 20 OF THOSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. I'VE GOT THREE GIRLS THAT WANNA TRY FOR IT. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY HAVE TRIED IN THE PAST. IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING TEST AND THEY HAVE NOT PASSED. SO IT'S NOT ANY, ANYTHING AGAINST THEM. I, I ADMIRE THEM FOR TRYING. I HAVE NOT EVER SET FOR A CERTIFICATION. I PROBABLY SHOULD THEN, IF I DON'T PASS, WELL LAUGH AT ME. HOW MUCH CRIMINAL LAW, I DON'T KNOW. BUT IT IS A LOT OF WORK AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT THEY REALLY WANNA TAKE IT AGAIN. AND IF ANY ONE OF THEM GOT IT, IT WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE THE 21ST, 22ND IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FROM KAUFMAN. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU WHAT WE ASKED FOR IN EXPENDITURES OVER FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET WAS 45 92. AND THEN WITH THE RAISES OR THE POSITION, I'M SORRY, THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT TOTAL BEING THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU LET ME KNOW. AND THEN IF WE FLIP REAL QUICK TO THE COLLECTION, UM, AND I, I KIND OF WAS LISTENING TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM, WE HAD SAID THAT IS A SMALLER STAFF, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE DONE REALLY GREAT WITH BRINGING COURTNEY BACK. UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE PEOPLE THAT REALLY DO A GOOD JOB. COURTNEY'S BEEN HERE IN THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS. I, I CAN'T SAY IT'S TOTALLY HER, BUT SHE'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. THE INCREASE FROM WHEN SHE WAS HERE AND NOW IS, UM, AMAZING. I ASKED LYNN TO SEND ME THAT NUMBER. UM, IN THE SAME SEVEN MONTHS COLLECTION COLLECTED, UH, FROM MAY 23 TO NOVEMBER 23, 670 6,866, AND THOSE COURT COSTS AND FINES. AND IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD WITH HER COLLECTED 868,410, ALMOST A DIFFERENT OF 200,000 WITH A 28.3% INCREASE. SO THE BOTTOM LINE WITH THAT TO ACTUALLY MAKE HER A DEPUTY WOULD BE 5,000. BUT WE WERE GIVING MONEY BACK IN OUR EXPENDITURE. SO IT'D BE A TOTAL OF $3,900. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. SO YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT BUDGETS. ONE FOR COLLECTION, ONE FOR THE DA'S OFFICE PROPER. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT $120,000. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY. I THINK WHEN WE GET ALL OUR REQUESTS AND NUMBERS MAKES SENSE TO ME. GET BACK WITH [00:25:01] ORDER, GETS BACK. I UNDERSTAND. PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AND THEN WE CAN WHEEL IT UP OR DOWN, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. SOUNDS GOOD. I APPRECIATE IT. EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR EMPLOYEES. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT YES, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. AND I TOLD THAT TO THE STAFF. I SAID, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, GETTING A COLA IS PARAMOUNT AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THE ASK AND LET YOU KNOW REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE OFFICE. UM, GET THAT INFORMATION. I MAY DROP OFF THAT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART UPSTAIRS SO THAT THEY'LL HAVE IT, UH, IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. OKAY. BECAUSE WHEN YOU CHANGE, YOU KNOW, UH, DESIGNATIONS, EVEN IF NOT MONEY, THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S SO THEY'LL BE A SIGNPOST TO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. YEAH. AND YOU AND I VISITED A LONG TIME YESTERDAY ABOUT YOUR CHART AND EVERYTHING AND, AND I AGREE. YOU HAD TOO MANY PEOPLE UNDER ONE PERSON. WE DID. YOU CAN'T MANAGE IT. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SHE'S A GOOD PERSON. SHE'S A GREAT EMPLOYEE. TOUGH. BUT IT'S TOUGH. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING AND GOING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EXPERIENCE AND, AND WHAT'S GOOD IS YOU WILL STILL REPORT BACK TO THAT PERSON, THE SUPERVISORS, AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE REPORT TO ME. I MEAN, I HAVE AN OPEN DOOR. I, I MEET WITH EVERYBODY. BUT THE TRAINING, THE EFFECTIVENESS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO HAVE A PHONE CHART OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS IN SICK. I MEAN, I, THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS AS YOU GET BIGGER THAT YOU'RE STILL A FAMILY, BUT THAT YOU HAVE GOOD ORGANIZATION AND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WHERE TO GO. TRAINING, PROPER COMMUNICATION, SPAN CONTROL AND STARTS AFTER FIVE. THAT'S WHAT LOSES EFFECTIVENESS. FIVE TO SEVEN IS, IT'S ABOUT COPS. YOU KNOW? SO, I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE MILITARY SAYS AND THAT'S WHAT BEST PRACTICES IS. FOUR TO SIX, FIVE TO SEVEN. AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, IT, IT JUST GAVE ME SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I I, I REALLY WASN'T THINKING ABOUT IT INITIALLY IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET AS MUCH AS JUST RECOGNITION, EFFICIENCIES OF EFFICIENCY, YOU KNOW, BEING BOMBARDED WITH QUESTIONS, THAT'S LIKE SOMEBODY ASKING HANDLE, BUT THEN SHE'S DOING THINGS THAT ARE, ARE REALLY VITAL TO THE OFFICE. AND TRAINING IS NOT ALL IS SECONDARY. I MEAN, YOU GOTTA GET YOUR TAX, YOU GOTTA GET PEOPLE ON BOARDED FOR HR. AND SO YOU HAD TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I'M ASKING AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK. AND THAT, AND WE DID SEE HOW EFFECTIVE IT WAS OVER IN THE INVESTIGATORS. IT'S A SMALLER GROUP WHEN YOU HAD REALLY MIKE AND THEN WALTER'S GOT ALL THIS EXPERIENCE IN MESQUITE COMING OVER AND ABLE TO DRILL DOWN WITH SOME OF THE TRAINING AND KEEP UP WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HELP MIKE AND, AND KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THEY ONBOARD AND LIAISON BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES. SO IT'S, WE'VE SEEN THAT IT'S HELPED AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MORE EXCITED. PEOPLE LIKE TO KNOW WHO THEY GO TO. WHO DO YOU TALK TO? ONE THING ABOUT IS YOU, YOU GIVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO LET 'EM DO IT. YOU KNOW, THE WEAKEST ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP MAKE EVERYBODY RUN EVERYTHING THROUGH THEM. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, I DO NOT WANT EVERYTHING RUN THROUGH ME. THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU, YOU GOTTA DELEGATE RESPONSIBILITIES AND MAKE DECISIONS AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE AT A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE REALLY GROWING IS IN A DAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU'VE GOT, UM, DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS IN TRIAL. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER ATTORNEY THAT'S DOING A TRAINING, YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY ELSE DOING SOMETHING ELSE AND IT'S ALL GOING UNDER YOUR ROOF. AND THEY GOT IT DONE AND THEY DIDN'T RUN IT THROUGH ME. AND IT WENT JUST FINE. I'VE HAD A GOOD DAY. IT MAKES ME VERY PROUD. SO I JUST WANNA KEEP IT UP AND GIVE MORE PEOPLE RESPONSIBILITY. 'CAUSE NOW I'VE GOT THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, LEY, WE HAD, UH, JEREMY, DO YOU MIND IF WE SKIP YOU OVER JUST FOR A SECOND? YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD. UH, WE HAD CONSTABLE JOHNSON AND J UH, KITCHEN'S IN HERE. SO COME ON UP. THANK YOU, SIR. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, CONSTABLE SENDS HIS RESPECTS. I THINK HE, HE, HE, HE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF Y'ALL. HE'S MOVING HIS DAUGHTER INTO COLLEGE TODAY. SO HE'S IN LUBBOCK. UH, THIS IS OUR, UM, FY 25 BUDGET. UH, TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST ONE, UH, 1 5 2, WHICH IS CONSTABLE JOHNSON'S BUDGET. LAST TIME HE WAS HERE, HE ALREADY TO TOUCHED ON THE, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES. THE ONLY THING ON IT PER, ON THE OPERATING EXPENSES THAT HE DIDN'T TOUCH ON, THAT HE MISSED, UH, WAS A NEW LINE ITEM THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR SOFTWARE BRANDY. MS. BRANDY INFORMED US THAT A STATE LAW HAD CHANGED, AND ANY REVENUES PAID ON FOR SOFTWARE COSTS HAS TO BE NOW TRACKED ON A SEPARATE LINE, WHICH, UH, THE CONSTABLE [00:30:01] BUDGET DOESN'T HAVE. SO, UH, ASKING FOR THE, UH, UH, ESTABLISHMENT OF A SOFTWARE LINE ITEM WITH $10,000 IN IT. AND THAT'S JUST THE CONSTABLE'S PORTION OF THE EXPENSES FOR OUR RMS SYSTEM, OUR BRAZOS, AND OUR AXON SYSTEM, UH, BRA, THIS IS OUR TICKET WRITING SYSTEM. UH, AXON IS OUR BODY CAMERA VIDEO MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND RMS IS OUR, OF COURSE, OUR REPORT WRITING SYSTEM. UM, SO WE BRANDY INFORMED MS. BRANDY INFORMED, HAD INFORMED US THAT, THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT. UH, AND THEN ALSO DOWN ON THE BOTTOM FOUR CONSTABLE JOHNSON'S BUDGET IS, UH, THE REQUEST FOR THE TUBE, UH, TASK FORCE POSITIONS BEING MOVED OVER TO HIS BUDGET, WHICH HE'S IN TALKS WITH Y'ALL ON ALREADY. OKAY. WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY. YES, SIR. ARE THESE GONNA BE PAID BY THE CONTRACT? AND HE TOLD ME YES, NO, IF THEY, THEY ARE CURRENTLY BEING PAID BY THE CONTRACT AND WE'RE ASKING BECAUSE THEIR DUTIES ARE NOW TAKING THEM OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT AREAS. AND ORIGINALLY THE MAJORITY OF THE, UH, STREET CRIMES ACTIVITIES WERE WITHIN, WITHIN THE CONTRACTS WAS WITHIN WIMO FARM, BUT NOW IT'S EXPANDING INTO TERRELL CRANDALL, THE CITY OF FORNEY. IT IS TAKING OUTSIDE THE CONTRACTS. SO TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT, THEY'RE ASKING THAT, UM, TWO POSITIONS BE PROVIDED INTO CONSTABLE JOHNSON'S CONS 1 52 BUDGET. UM, SO THAT, THAT OBLIGATION IS TAKEN OFF OF THE CONTRACTS. SO THEY GONNA REPLACE THE TWO FROM THE CONTRACT? NO, NO. I MEAN, UH, THEY, AS IN THE CONSTABLE AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY UNDER THE SHERIFF CONTRACTING, IS THE CONTRACT GONNA REPLACE THE TWO? YEAH, UH, THEY'RE GONNA NOT, THEY'RE GONNA REPLACE THE TWO WITHIN THE CONTRACT INTO AS PATROL DEPUTIES, BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY'RE PATROL DEPUTIES THAT WE PULLED OUT TO PUT ON STREET CRIMES, UM, TO WORK ON THE, THE ORGANIZED CRIMES, STREET CRIMES, PROBLEMS WITHIN THE CONTRACTS AND THE REST OF THE, IN THE 20 AREAS, OTHER CONTRACTS, THEY'LL PAY FOR TWO. AND THEN WE GOING TO, THAT WAS MY BOTTOM LINE. WE'RE NOT GONNA PICK UP THE CONTRACT'S RESPONSIBILITY. NO, NO. UM, THE, THE, THE POSITIONS WOULD BE BACKFILLED WITHIN THE CONTRACTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CONTRACTS, BUT THE IN, UM, THE POSITIONS COMING IN IN WOULD BE PAID BY THE COUNTY. UH, BECAUSE WE, THEY, GIVEN THAT THE DUTIES ARE TAKEN OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT NOW, THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO SUBSIDIZE. HE'S ASKING FOR TWO MORE DEPUTIES. BUT WOULD THE, YEAH, AND HERE'S MY QUESTION THOUGH. IS THE TASK FORCE GONNA BE WORKING BACK IN? I MEAN, WE'RE PAYING FOR TWO GUYS TO COME OUT OF THERE TO PAY 'EM TO GO BACK IN THERE TO WORK AS WELL. AND I WOULD'VE THAT, THAT WOULD BE, UH, THEY WOULD, IF THE DUTIES TAKE 'EM THAT WAY. I, AND I'M, I'M NOT OVER THE TASK FORCE, BUT I WOULD'VE TO ASSUME THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE CRIME OR THEIR CALLS OR WHATEVER, IT TAKES 'EM BACK, THEY, THEY WOULD OPERATE WITHIN THE, UH, CONTRACTS FROM TIME TO TIME. ALSO, THOSE TWO GO ALL OVER THE COUNTY. SHERIFF, YOU GOT A COMMENT ON THAT? I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING ALL OVER THE PLACE. I MEAN, YES, MAJORITY OF NORTH HAMPTON COUNTY. OKAY, SO THIS WOULD BE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE FOR TWO STREET CRIMES. WILL THEY BE ANSWERING 9 1 1 CALLS? THEY WOULD NOT STREET, I DON'T BELIEVE STREET. I'M, I'M NOT, I KNOW THE SHERIFF KNOWS MORE ABOUT THEIR OPERATIONS. EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON YEAH. THEY DON'T ANSWER NINE ONE CALLS, YOU KNOW. OKAY. I IT'S JUST DOING THEIR OWN THING THERE ON THE TASK FORCE. EACH ENTITY PROVIDES SO MUCH MANPOWER. YES. SO EACH ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING SOMETHING? YES. SO, WELL, NOT EVERYONE, I MEAN, GENERAL CONSTABLE IS NOT GONNA PUT UP TWO AND KIM'S NOT GONNA PUT UP TWO. AND, UH, THE ONLY ONES WE GOT INVOLVED IS THE CONSTABLE, MYSELF, THE DA'S OFFICE AND, UH, PHONE. OKAY. THAT'S WHO BOTHER THIS PHONE. BUT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO RANDALL AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO TERL AND NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. SO WE'RE STILL ASSISTING THAT THEM, SO WHEN THE STUFF COMES OFF. OKAY. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IMPACTS US OFF NO MATTER WHAT. CRIMINALS DON'T, DON'T FOLLOW BOUNDARIES. THAT'S TRUE. FOR SOME REASON, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT YEAH. AND, AND I CAN SAY I DO WANT TO GIVE 'EM KUDOS. UM, THE, UH, THE RECENT FENTANYL ARRESTS, THE MURDER SUSPECT THAT, THAT THEY GOT, UM, AND THIS IS JUST HEARSAY, I WASN'T, I'M NOT PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS, UH, BUT I KNOW THAT IT WAS IN OUR AREA. ONE WAS IN THE CITY OF FORNEY, AND I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS, I THINK IN TRAVIS RANCH, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY LARGE FENTANYL DISTRIBUTORS, MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTORS. SO THAT, THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD, GOOD HIT. BUT, UM, THOSE ARE THE ONES, AGAIN, THEY'RE ON THERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, UH, WE DO WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, UM, WANTS TO KIND OF, UH, RESTRUCTURE, UH, THE PERSONNEL AND HOW IT GOES BETWEEN THE CONTRACTS AND THE COUNTY. UM, HE WANTS TO HAVE A MORE CLEAR LINE BETWEEN, UH, CONTRACT PERSONNEL AND COUNTY PERSONNEL. UH, CURRENTLY FOR, UH, FY 24, UH, THERE'S TWO, UH, POSITIONS WITHIN THE 1 5 2 BUDGET, WHICH IS A CONSTABLE'S BUDGET THAT IS SUBSIDIZED OFF OF [00:35:01] THE CONTRACTS. SO THEY GET THE CONSTABLE BUDGET, THEY, THEY GET THE SALARY FROM THE CONSTABLE, AND THEN THEY GET SUBSIDIES FROM THE CONTRACTS. UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON WANTS TO, UH, ELIMINATE THAT, SO IT'S MORE CLEAR, UH, HE WANTS TO MOVE THE, THE TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE, UH, SUBSIDIZED PURELY IN THE CONTRACT SO THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MONEY FOR THE CONTRACTS ARE GOING FOR THESE POSITIONS. AND THERE'S NO CO-MINGLING, UH, OF THE, THE DOLLARS. SO FOR THE, UH, THE CLERICAL POSITION AND THEN MY POSITION, UH, MOVING THOSE A HUNDRED PERCENT INTO THE CONTRACT AND THERE, AND THEN, UH, THE COUNTY WOULD BE PAYING A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR A COUNTY DEPUTY THAT PERFORMS PRECINCT DUTIES. SO, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE CHANGED. IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT TO, UM, THE 1 5 2 BUDGET. UH, IT'S JUST THAT, UH, MY POS I, MY I, MY POSITION WOULD BE MOVED OVER TO THE CONTRACT AND THEN, UH, THAT REMAINING DEPUTY POSITION WOULD BE FILLED BY A, A CIVIL DEPUTY, JUST LIKE THAT. AND THEN, UH, THE CLERICAL POSITION WILL BE MOVED OVER INTO THE CONTRACTS. AND THEN, UH, THAT CLER AND THEY WOULD ONLY BE DOING CONTRACT RELATED STUFF. THAT WOULD BE, WE WOULD NO LONGER BE DOING CONSTABLE STUFF AND CONTRACT STUFF. WE'D ONLY BE DOING CONTRACT RELATED STUFF. GIVEN THAT, UH, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF MY DUTIES AND THEIR DUTIES IS CONTRACT RELATED BECAUSE OF THE SIZE THAT, THAT WE ARE NOW. SO IT DOESN'T, THAT CHANGE DOESN'T HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT TO 1 5 2. UH, IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A APPEARANCE AND STRUCTURAL IMPACT, SO THERE'S NO MORE COMMINGLING OF MONEY. I LIKE THAT PART. UH, THAT SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE BIT, IT GETS CONFUSING SOMETIMES. WELL, I I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF UNFAIR BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORKING EIGHT HOUR SHIFT, YOU'RE GETTING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FROM THE COUNTY AND X NUMBER FROM THE CONTRACT, WHICH IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN EIGHT, OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE SHOULD TAKE TWO AWAY FROM THE COUNTY TO MAKE IT A WHOLE. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. OKAY. WELL THEN THAT WOULD, THIS WOULD COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THAT CORRECT. ELIMINATE THAT PROBLEM. ABSOLUTELY, SIR. OKAY. THEN REPLACE BOTH OF Y'ALL WITH REGULAR DEPUTIES? UH, YEAH. I WOULD BE, I WOULD BE REPLACED WITH A REGULAR DEPUTY AND THE CLERICAL WOULD BE JUST REPLACED WITH A REGULAR CLERK ONE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. AND THEN, UH, IF WE CAN GO INTO, ALREADY, ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT PART. I'M SORRY, SIR. I SAID WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT PART, UH, 1 9 1, WHICH IS THE, UH, WIMO FARMS BUDGET. UM, CONSTABLE JOHNSON'S PRETTY MUCH ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES. UM, THE ADDITIONS ON THE BOTTOM OTHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE RENTAL COSTS AND, AND THE MAINTENANCE. UM, HAVING THOSE TWO CLERICAL POSITIONS. NOW, THESE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONTRACT FUNDED. THERE'S NO COUNTY MONEY IS GOING TO THIS. UH, BUT THE CREATION OF TWO, UH, RECORDS, CLERK POSITIONS, UM, HANDLING ONE WOULD BE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS, UM, BURNING THE VIDEOS, HANDLING THE BODY CAMS, GETTING THE REQUESTS FROM THE PEOPLE, GETTING THEM BACK TO THE PEOPLE, UM, MONITORING ON OUR WEBSITES. UM, WE ARE, BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS THAT, THAT WE ARE GETTING NOW, WE HANDLE IT OURSELVES. IT NO LONGER IS, UH, ASSISTED OR DONE THROUGH THE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UH, AND IT'S BECOME A FULL-TIME JOB. UH, WE, WE AVERAGE BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE A DAY. UH, SOME OF THE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS CAN BE CONCLUDED IN FIVE MINUTES. SOME MAY TAKE, YOU KNOW, A WEEK TO 10 DAYS TO DO BECAUSE OF THE VIDEO AND THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTATION. UM, THE SECOND POSITION RECORDS POSITION WOULD BE IS ASSISTING THE CID POSITIONS, UH, PER CASE PREP, BURNING VIDEOS, UPLOADING TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, ORGANIZING, UH, FOR JUVENILE ARRESTS AND AS SUCH, SO JUST ASKING FOR THE, THE, THE CREATION RE UH, OF THE, THE TWO RECORDS CLERK POSITIONS, UM, TO BE PAID, UH, BY THE, THE CONTRACTS. AND THEN EACH CONTRACT WILL PAY A, A PORTION OF THAT. UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 37, 37, 20 6% OF IT, BUT NO COUNTY MONEY GOES TO IT. SO YOU GOT TWO, TWO CLERKS. BUT THEY'RE BOTH DOING VIDEOS. THEY, BUT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. UH, ONE CLERK DOES, UH, ONE CLERK PROCESS THE VIDEOS FOR, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE TO GET THEM, BURN THEM, SEND THEM, UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DOING CASE PREP FOR THE CRIMINAL CASES. LAST YEAR WE FILED, UH, 435 CRIMINAL CASES WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. EACH ONE OF THOSE CASES AFTER THE CID IS FINISHED WITH IT NEEDS TO BE PUT TOGETHER, UM, AND THEN SCANNED, UPLOADED INTO THE NEW D UH, DE'S, UH, DATABASE. AND THEN THAT VIDEO HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UM, RETRIEVED, CATEGORIZED, AND THEN [00:40:01] SENT OVER TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO IT'S A, IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB. UM, AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE DOING IT FOR A SOLELY PUBLIC INFORMATION. OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. YOU GETTING THREE TO FIVE A DAY ON DAY THREE. OH YEAH. THREE TO FIVE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST A DAY. UH, AND THE, THE, THE TRICK ABOUT THE VIDEO FOR THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST IS ONE, FINDING WHICH ONES ARE AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVED IT UNDER THE STATUTE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND GO BACK IN AND REDACT IT. ANY FACES, ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IF OUR COMPUTER IS UP, YOU HAVE TO GO. AND THAT IT TAKES TIME. EVEN WITH THE AUTOMATED PROGRAM, IT, IT STILL TAKES HOURS TO DO, UM, A 45 MINUTE VIDEO. OKAY. WELL, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO BLOCK PEOPLE OUT OF IT. YEP. YEAH. THEIR FACES AND, AND GO BACK THROUGH AND MAKE SURE YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T, UH, BUT BOTH OF 'EM, BOTH OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE PAID OUTTA THE CONTRACT. A HUNDRED PERCENT CONTRACTS. OKAY. UH, NOW WITHIN THE CONTRACTS, WE'RE ALSO ASKING IN THIS ONE TO CONVERT IT, IT SAYS IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING. 1.5 CORPORAL POSITIONS TO A SERGEANT. UH, WE HAVE ONE CORPORAL POSITION THAT'S, UH, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CORPORAL POSITIONS IN THIS ONE, BUT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE ONE THAT IS SHARED BETWEEN THE CONTRACTS AS OUR, AS A FLOATER. UH, SO THAT'S REASON IT SAYS 1.5. IT COMES UP TO BE THREE TOTAL ONES. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING TO CONVERT THAT TO A SERGEANT. CURRENTLY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE PAID SERGEANT. UM, CURRENTLY WE, AS OF FOA 24, WE HAVE 24 SWORN PERSONNEL IN THE CONTRACTS. UM, AND THEN FOR FY 25, UH, THAT NUMBER WILL JUMP UP TO 29. SO WE'RE JUST HAVING, WANTING TO HAVE A MORE CLEAR CHAIN OF COMMAND CONSISTENCY IN IT. SO, UH, WE'RE WANTING TO, UH, CREATE THREE TOTAL SERGEANT POSITIONS IN THE PATROL DIVISION, UM, TO BE ABLE TO, TO MONITOR THOSE PEOPLE. SO HOW MUCH, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD EACH SERGEANT SUPERVISE? EACH SERGEANT WOULD SUPERVISE? UH, SIX. TOTAL OF SIX. DOES IT TAKE, IS THAT A LOW NUMBER FOR A SERGEANT? WELL, USUALLY, USUALLY SERGEANTS IN OUR INDUSTRY, IT, IT'LL BE ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO FIVE. UM, PER SHIFT IS WHAT MOST FOR PATROL SHIFT. FOR PATROL SHIFT. THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD WITHIN OUR ENGINE ENTRY. I THINK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I THINK HE DOES SEVEN, BUT I KNOW, KNOW JUST DIFFERENT SIZE AGENCIES TOO, LIKE A PLATOON FROM AGENCY. I COME FROM, YOU MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT TO 10 ON EACH PLATOON AND IT, BUT IT'S JUST A LARGE CITY, BUT YOU HAVE TWO SERGEANTS OVERLAPPING, SO YEAH. AND THE SERGEANTS WOULDN'T BE ON THE WHOLE 24 HOURS A DAY. THEY WOULD BASICALLY HAVE AN A AND A B SHIFT, AND THEN THEY HAVE CORPORALS UNDER THEM, UH, ASSISTING THEM. WELL, OUT OF 'EM, YOU, YOU ROTATE 'EM AROUND, SO THEY'RE ON FOR THE WHOLE SHIFT OF ANSWERING THE OTHER ONE'S SHIFTS TOO. OKAY. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. YEAH. SO, UH, THE, THE OTHER ONE IS AGAIN, UM, WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE CAPTAIN'S POSITION, WHICH IS MY POSITION OVER THERE. SO IT'S JUST, UH, CONVERTING, UH, AND CREATING THE CAPTIVES POSITION WITHIN THE, THE CONTRACTS. THERE'S NO REAL FISCAL CHANGE IN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS NOW. AND THEN THE, UH, ADDITIONAL OR SUBSIDIZED CAPTAIN'S FEES WAS ALREADY COMING OUTTA THE CONTRACT. SO IT'S, IT'S A COST PUSH. OKAY. UM, THE LAST N 1 9 1, WHICH IS WIMO FARMS. UH, WIMO FARMS IS, UH, PROJECTING AN ADDITION OF 2000 HOMES, UH, BY OCTOBER NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL EQUAL THREE POSITIONS. SO JUST BUDGETING THREE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR, UH, THE PROJECTED GROWTH. YEAH, THAT'S ALL CONTRACT, SO, YEP. YEP, THAT'S RIGHT. UH, 1 9 2 IS TRAVIS RANCH. SAME THING THAT WE JUST, UH, UH, TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE CREATION OF THE TWO RECORDS CLERK POSITIONS, UH, THE, THE 1.5, UH, CONVERTING TO A SERGEANT, AND THEN THE, UH, UH, CREATION OF THE CAPTAIN. UH, THE CAPTAIN'S POSITION, UM, TRAVIS RANCH, JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, IS 98% COMPLETE, UH, IN THEIR PLATS. SO, UH, THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE ANOTHER ADDITION MAYBE FOR A COUPLE YEARS. UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY, THEY'RE BUILT OUT. YEAH. UH, NEXT ONE IS 1 9 3, WHICH IS DEVONSHIRE. UM, SAME THING AGAIN, UH, WITH THE BUILDING COST, UH, TWO RECORDS CLERKS. UH, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALREADY BEHIND ON POSITIONS, UH, BUT, UH, PROJECTING, UH, ADDING TWO POSITIONS BY OCTOBER, UH, NEXT YEAR. THEY CURRENTLY STILL HAVE THEM. AND, UH, WIELL FARMS BOTH HAVE ONE POSITION THAT WE BUDGETED FOR, BUT THEY HASN'T BEEN AUTHORIZED YET BECAUSE THEY HADN'T HIT THE BUILD THE HOUSE MARK ON THAT ONE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN THE, THE LAST ONE IS JUST ON THE FORFEITURE BUDGET, UM, AND I BELIEVE CONSTABLE JENSEN ALREADY TOUCHED ON THAT LAST TIME. YEP. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SIR. DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU MIND? NOPE. NO. MINE HAS ALL BEEN ANSWERED. OKAY. I'M GOOD. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. JEREMY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. I LOVE THE JEREMY. WELL THAT ONE, JERRY, JERRY . THAT'S OKAY. YOU CAN BE JEREMY, RIGHT? YOU CAN BE JEREMY. IT DOESN'T MATTER. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER. HEY, HOW ARE Y'ALL TODAY? THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. [00:45:01] I DON'T KNOW, LAURA, STEP OUT. SHE, HER SYSTEM'S DOWN. HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE. I'LL WAIT JUST A MINUTE BEFORE I PLUG THIS IN. WELL, OUR LAPTOP'S OFF. SEE IF LARS OUT THERE. IT'S JUST A LAPTOP. I THINK IT'S JUST A LAPTOP. OKAY. BUT, BUT I MEAN, WE CAN'T SEE HIS STUFF IF IT DOESN'T COME UP. WE'RE NOT ON THE I BET WE'RE ON AIR. YEAH. WE MAY BE ON AIR, BUT THEY CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. YEAH. CAN'T. THAT'S WHY I SAID WE CAN'T. WELL, I'M GONNA HAND YOU ALL THESE INVITATIONS. THESE ARE INVITATIONS. OUR AIRCRAFT AND TERRELL, WE'RE DOING THE RIBBON CUTTING ON, UH, AUGUST THE 15TH. YEP. AND SO, ALRIGHT, THANK, DO YOU HAVE A TIME? THE RIBBON KING WILL BE 10 30, AND THIS IS FOR A KIND OF A VIP UH, LUNCH AFTER AT THE, UH, MEETING. OKAY. WELL, THIS IS LONG AS WE GET, THIS IS GOOD NEWS. THIS IS REAL GOOD NEWS. THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS PROBABLY 25 YEARS AGO. AND IT'S, IT'S FINALLY, WE FINALLY CAME IN AND, UM, WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE BOARD, OUR CARE FLIGHT BOARD, SHOW THEM THE DATA, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE FLYING A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTTA KAUFMAN COUNTY. UM, AND SO IT, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG INVESTMENT FOR CARE FLIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, $5 MILLION HELICOPTER THAT WE JUST BLESSED IN JULY. UH, IT'S A BELL 4 0 7, RIGHT? UH, GXI, IT'S WEATHER. IT'S, UM, HAS THE WEATHER FLIGHT CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO FLY WITHIN THE WEATHER. WE TRY NOT TO REALLY, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE IN THE AIR AND THEY NEED TO GO ONTO THE HOSPITAL. THEY CAN DO AIRPORT TO AIRPORT, AIRPORT TO CERTAIN HOSPITALS, BUT, UH, A LITTLE HARDER HAND LAND THAT ON THE ROAD. YES. YEAH. BUT THE THING IS, WE KNOW THAT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, WE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A LEVEL ONE OR LEVEL TWO TRAUMA CENTER. AND SO THIS IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET SOMEBODY TO A TRAUMA CENTER WITHOUT HAVING A TRAUMA CENTER. AND, UM, UM, ANYWAY, I'LL MOVE ON WITH MY, I HAVEN'T, I TOOK THIS OVER THIS JOB OVER IN, UH, MAY OF LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS, IT'S BEEN DEFINITELY A JOB OVER THE LAST YEAR. HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. UH, I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. UM, BEEN A PART OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY FOREVER. UH, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, EMS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU, YOU CAN ASK BRIAN OR ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND A LITTLE WHILE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, FROM THE KAUFMAN COUNTY EMS BACK 40 YEARS AGO TO, TO EAST TEXAS TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN A ONE FOR A GOOD WHILE. MM-HMM. . UM, MY GOAL WAS TO COME INTO KAUFMAN COUNTY AND LOOK AT THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT WERE PROBLEMS AND TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE. AND ALSO TRY TO STAY WITHIN SOME KIND OF BUDGET BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANNA DO IS GO OUT AND SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS AND MY, MY BOSSES SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GONNA FIRE YOU . SO I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS. SO I WANTED TO KIND OF GO BACK A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF TELL YOU HOW CAREFUL I GOT HERE. UH, WE STARTED IN 1979 AND WHEN THEY STARTED, IT STARTED OFF AS NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS SERVICES BETWEEN METHODIST, UM, DALLAS AND METHODIST FORT WORTH. AND IT WAS THE FIRST MULTI-HOSPITAL, UM, FLIGHT SERVICE EVER. UM, THEY RE I THINK THEY REALIZED THAT YOU COULDN'T NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS SERVICES ON THE SIDE OF A HELICOPTER. SO THEY MADE THE DBA CARE FLIGHT, BUT APPARENTLY IN 1979 THEY MUST'VE BEEN ILLITERATE. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW YOU FAILED CARELY . UM, WE STARTED OFF, SO NOW WE'VE GROWN TO, WE HAVE FIVE SPONSORED HOSPITALS. THESE SPONSORS ON THE LEFT, TEXAS HEALTH, BAYLOR AND METHODIST OWN US. UH, TEXAS HEALTH OWNS 50% OF CARE FLIGHT. BAYLOR OWNS 25. METHODIST OWNS 25 PARKLAND AND JPS ARE ASSOCIATE SPONSORED, BUT THEY SIT ON OUR BOARD. WE HAVE A BOARD ABOUT 10 OR 11 PEOPLE FROM EACH ONE OF THESE FACILITIES. AND THEY MAKE, THEY TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO, WHAT WE CAN SPEND MONEY ON, WHAT WE CAN'T. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THOUGH, CARE FLAT STARTS GETTING IN TROUBLE. THEN WE GO TO THESE THREE ON THE LEFT AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE NEED, WE NEED SOME CASH MONEY. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY START YELLING AT US AND YANKING ON THE CHAINS AND COME THROUGH. SO IN 1979, WE WERE, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME, TWO SEPARATE HOSPITAL SYSTEM JOINED TOGETHER AND MADE A CONSORTIUM BETWEEN THE TWO. THEY BOUGHT A BELL, 2 0 6, LONG RANGER. UM, BUT THEN RIGHT ON AFTER THAT, THEY REALIZED THAT WITH HELICOPTERS, YOU NEEDED A WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO THE HOSPITAL FROM WHEREVER YOU WERE LANDING AT THAT TIME, OR AT THAT TIME, WE WEREN'T AT METHODIST DALLAS. UM, SO IN 1981, THEY STARTED THE GROUND AMBULANCE, UM, AND ALSO THE SECOND HELICOPTER WAS PURCHASED. AND SO THEN THERE WAS A HELICOPTER IN FORT WORTH AND A HELICOPTER AT METHODIST DALLAS. 10 YEARS IN WE FIRST 10 YEARS, WE FLEW 6,500 PEOPLE. AND AT THAT TIME WE TRANSITIONED TO A BELL 2 22, AND WE HAD FOUR OF 'EM AT THAT TIME. IN 1999, WE [00:50:01] COMPLETED 50,000 AIR MEDICAL FLIGHTS. WE HAD FOUR HELICOPTER BASES. WE ADDED A FIXED WING, UM, 24 GROUND AMBULANCES, 200 EMPLOYEES, 2000. WE BECAME A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. IN 2003, WE ACTUALLY STARTED A CONTRACT FIRST 9 1 1 CONTRACT. AND THAT WAS IN JOHNSON COUNTY, WHICH WE RECENTLY, UH, AWARDED THE RFP. SO WE'LL BE BACK IN JOHNSON COUNTY STARTING OCTOBER 1ST. OUR 30TH ANNIVERSARY WAS IN 2009 AND 2012, WE BUILT OUR OWN TRAINING CENTER. UM, 2015, WE BOUGHT FIVE FE BELL, FOUR OH SEVENS AND TWO BELL. 4, 2 9 AIRCRAFT. THAT WAS ABOUT $35 MILLION INVESTMENT. WE BEGAN 9 1 1 SERVICES IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY IN 2015. WE ALSO DID ELLIS COUNTY. UM, IN 2018, WE BROKE 100,000 ANNUAL TRANSPORTS, AND WE ALSO ADDED BLOOD PRODUCTS, UH, OUR LIFE ARMS, WHICH IS SOME CPR DEVICES TO WHERE, UH, IT DOES KIND OF A MANUAL CPR AUTOMATED, I GUESS, UH, TO ALL OF OUR AIRCRAFT AND ALL THE AMBULANCES IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND OUR 9 1 1 AREAS, 2020, THIS WORD THAT EVERYBODY HATES. UM, COVID-19, UH, IT REALLY DID, IT REDEFINED EMS OPERATIONS. THAT WAS A HARD TIME FOR, FOR ANY EMS. PEOPLE WERE QUITTING, PEOPLE WERE GETTING SICK, PEOPLE WERE DYING. IT WAS HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK. IT WAS, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS REALLY TRYING TIMES PLUS, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY TRYING TO GET THROUGH THOSE TIMES AND THEN JUST BEING ABLE TO GET SUPPLIES. AND IN MY CAREER, I NEVER REALLY REALIZED THAT WE WOULD EVER HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING DRUGS, EPI, KETAMINE. I MEAN, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE STRUGGLED AND EVEN NOW, LIKE WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING TRYING TO GET PARTS FOR AMBULANCES AND, UH, DRUGS AND JUST ALL OF IT. UH, WE STARTED OUR OWN EMS PROGRAM IN 2022, AND IT HAS BEEN THE BEST THING THAT WE'VE DONE EVER. AND WE JUST GRADUATED OUR FIRST PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH A CONJUNCTION. WE JOINED WITH, UH, UT DALLAS IN METHODIST AND STARTED OUR OWN PARAMEDIC PROGRAM. WE GRADUATED 16 IN AND JULY. UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE OUR FUTURE WITH BEING ABLE TO BRING IN OUR OWN PEOPLE, GET 'EM EMTS, SEND 'EM TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL, THEN THEY FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE OBLIGATED TO CARE FLIGHT. UM, IT WORKS FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND, AND SO FAR IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL FOR, FOR US. WE, WE RUN ABOUT 20 EMT OR 20 EMTS THROUGH OUR EMT CLASS. AND THEY START ABOUT EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. SO INTO THE FUTURE. WE'VE ACTUALLY PURCHASED AND WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED MOVING INTO A NEW CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS IN IRVING. UM, IT'S GONNA BE OUR, RIGHT NOW WE LIVE AT, WE'RE IN HANGERS. WE HAVE OUR EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, ONE HANGER, AND WE HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE OUR AIR MECHANICAL IN ONE BUILDING. SO THIS NEW HEADQUARTERS, EVERYBODY WILL BE THERE OTHER THAN OUR A MECHANICAL, THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL STILL BE AT GRAND PRAIRIE, BUT OUR TRAINING CORPORATE, EVERYTHING WILL BE THERE. EVEN OUR FLEET. UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT THING FOR US. WE'VE, UH, TRANSITIONED TO IMAGETREND. AT ONE TIME, OUR CHARTING SOFTWARE WAS 10 YEARS OLD AND YOU HAD AIR OVER HERE DOING THIS THING, AND YOU HAD GROUND OVER HERE DOING THIS. AND SO NOW WE'RE ALL MINGLED TOGETHER. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, THE RELOCATION OF, UH, PUTTING A HELICOPTER IN TERRELL. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG THING FOR THE COUNTY. UM, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO UPGRADE OUR GROUND FLEET, WHICH HAS KIND OF BEEN TOUGH, UM, TRYING TO PICK AN AMBULANCE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET AS, AS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET POLICE CARS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE'RE JUST, WE JUST CAN'T. UM, WE'VE, UH, SWITCHED TO A HORTON F 5 54 WHEEL DRIVE. THEY SEEM, THE DIESELS SEEM TO HOLD UP A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN THESE, THESE GAS, UM, THEY HAVE BETTER SUSPENSION. THE BACK OF THE AMBULANCES ARE A LOT MORE SAFE. UM, WE'VE RECEIVED, WE PICKED UP FOUR IN TYLER YESTERDAY. NO, NOT YESTERDAY, FRIDAY. SO THEY'LL, THEY'RE COMING IN AND GETTING GRAPHICS. UM, THOSE HILL COUNTY ACTUALLY BOUGHT FIVE FOR US. UM, AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE PRE COVID AMBULANCES WERE AROUND 130, 140,000, THESE AMBULANCES STRIPPED DOWN TO NOTHING OR $340,000 A PIECE. THE AUTO LOADS IS, I'M FIXING TO TALK ABOUT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. I THINK IT'S A COUPLE. THOSE ARE ABOUT 45,000. BUT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CREW AND THE SAFETY OF PATIENTS, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'D BE SURPRISED, YOU KNOW, WITH 135 AMBULANCES WE HAVE FLOATING AROUND NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, WE DROP A LOT OF PATIENTS, PEOPLE PULLING OUT, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER ROUGH TERRAIN. THEY FALL OVER, THEY'RE VERY UNSTEADY WITH THESE AUTO LOADS. [00:55:02] IT TAKES A LOT OF THAT AWAY. PLUS IT SAVES A LOT OF PARAMEDICS, EMTS BACK, ESPECIALLY OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT HEARD 'EM NOW, BUT IN 30 YEARS THEY'LL REALLY BE TALKING TO YOU. ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE, UH, THAT WE'VE DONE IS, UH, WE HAD AN, AN OUTDATED CAD SYSTEM. WE'VE SWITCHED OVER TO A, A LOGIS SYSTEM THAT HAS A LOT OF AI CAPABILITIES WHERE IT AUTOMATICALLY TELLS YOU WHERE THIS NEEDS TO GO, WHERE THIS NEEDS TO GO. IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF FUNCTIONS AWAY FROM OUR, FROM OUR ACTUAL LOCK COMM CENTER PEOPLE. AND ANOTHER GOOD PART ABOUT THAT SYSTEM IS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE'RE, UH, STARTING WITH FORNEY AND TERRELL, AND WE'RE COMING TO THE COUNTY AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, THIS ALLOWS US TO DO CAD TO CAD TO WHERE WE TIE OUR CADS IN TOGETHER TO WHERE AS WE'RE, AS WE GET THE CALL, THE COUNTY GETS THE CALL, THEY SEND IT OVER TO US RIGHT NOW, COUNTY SENDS IT TO US. WE DEMD, IT, WE SEND, OUR AMBULANCE COUNTY HAS NO CLUE UNLESS WE CALL BACK AND SAY, OH, HEY, BY THE WAY, THIS PERSON HAS A GUN. OR HEY, UH, THIS IS CPR IN PROGRESS. AND SOMETIMES IN THE MIX WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN WE'RE IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY, UM, SOMETIMES THOSE PHONE CALLS GET MISSED OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET PUT ON HOLD IN TWO OR THREE MINUTES. THEY, THEY, IT COUNTS. SO THAT'S A BIG THING AND IT'S A BIG, UM, UM, BIG IMPROVEMENT OVER, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO. UM, LET'S SEE. WE PROVIDE ROTOR WING, FIXED WING, 9 1 1 EMS, CRITICAL CARE, EMERGENT NON-EMERGENT, IFT WHEELCHAIR TRANSPORT. WE DO ALL THAT IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE PRETTY MUCH COVER A LOT OF TEXAS. THERES OUR AIR LOCATIONS. AND EVENTUALLY THERE'LL BE A LITTLE SPOT OVER IN TERRELL, TEXAS THAT SHOWS A FIXED WING. UM, ANOTHER THING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AT CARELY IS, UM, OUR MEMBERSHIP, UH, WE OFFER IT TO ANY CITY, ESPECIALLY UTILITIES. I KNOW ROSSER IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT DOESN'T HAVE UTILITIES SINCE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WATER. THEY DON'T HAVE A WATER COMPANY. SO THE CITY ACTUALLY WRITES A CHECK FOR EVERY ONE OF THEIR RESIDENTS ONCE A YEAR. UM, AND IT'S STILL A DOLLAR A MONTH. SO I THINK THEY WRITE A CHECK FOR 300. IT'S NOT MUCH. MAYBE IT'S $800,000, BUT IT'S WELL WORTH IT. YEAH. UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS IN THE PAST LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL NEED, Y'ALL NEED MORE MONEY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST RAISE THAT? WELL GUYS, I DON'T SEE A PENNY OF THAT. NONE OF THAT GOES INTO MY BUDGET. THAT GOES INTO A TRUST FUND AND IT'S STRICTLY FOR MEMBERSHIP AND IT JUST ROLLS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND WITH THAT, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY THAT, THAT, THAT DO NOT HAVE A MEMBERSHIP, WE DO OFFER, WE OFFER MEMBERSHIP TO ANYBODY AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S $49 A YEAR, OR YOU CAN DO FIVE YEARS FOR $135. IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PLAN IF YOU, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF POCKET AND YOU ONE AMBULANCE RIDE, IT'S CHEAP, PAYS FOR IT FOR A LIFETIME, IT'S CHEAP. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT APPARENTLY THEY DON'T GET THE MEMBERSHIP. WE TRANSPORT 'EM, WE SEND 'EM IN A HELICOPTER TO, TO, UM, TO DALLAS. YOU KNOW, THEY GET A BILL. BUT AT CAREF FLIGHT, WE DO, WE DO CARE AT THE END OF THE DAY, DOING THE RIGHT THING IS WHAT WE TRY TO DO. UM, SO LET'S JUST SAY COMMISSIONER MOORE, HE, WE FLY HIM TO DALLAS AND YOU KNOW, WE SEND HIM A BILL. HE DON'T WANNA TALK TO US, WE SEND HIM ANOTHER BILL. HE DON'T WANNA TALK TO US. SO THEN WE CALL HIM, SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHY AREN'T YOU, YOU KNOW, WE OWE A BILL TO CARELY FAIL TO PAY. SO WE DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE DO SEND THEM TO A COMPANY THAT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO IN AND THEY, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE COMMISSIONER MOORE. AND THEY GO, WAIT A MINUTE, COMMISSIONER MOORE, YOU GOT YOU, YOU'RE RICH, YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE, NEED DOLLAR HOME, AND YOU GOT FIVE HOUSES IN FLORIDA. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, BASICALLY, WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO COLLECTIONS. BUT SHERIFF BEAVER'S OVER HERE, WE SEND HIM TO, WE SEND HIM TO, YOU KNOW, TO DALLAS BY AMBULANCE OR BY AIR. WE, UH, WE COME BACK, WE CALL HIM, HE DOESN'T ANSWER, CALL HIM AGAIN. HE DOESN'T ANSWER. SEND HIM A COUPLE BILLS. HE DOESN'T ANSWER. WE SEND HIM TO THE SAME COMPANY. THEY GO, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. SHE BEAVERS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING. HE LESS THAN A $25,000 R KEMP, US RV AND KEMP. WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE WRITE IT OFF MY BUDGET EVERY YEAR. I'LL, UM, GET OVER THERE TO IT. SO THIS IS, I'LL JUST SHOW YOU. UM, I CAN SEE IT NOT THERE, THERE, THIS IS MY BUDGET EVERY YEAR, OR FOR JUNE, NOT FOR EVERY YEAR, BUT JUNE. SO JUNE WE TRANSPORTED 1,252 PEOPLE. PATIENT REVENUE, 3,309,000 FOR JUNE, YOU THINK? YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. SO THEN, SO THEN OUR CONTRACTS WILL ADJUSTMENTS WITH INSURANCE GOES, HEY, WE'RE NOT PAYING [01:00:01] THAT. SO THEN I HAVE TO WRITE OFF 1.7 MILLION. WELL, THEN YOU GO DOWN AND THEN YOU HAVE REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS, A HUNDRED, 2000. WELL, THEN YOU GET DOWN HERE TO THIS BAD DEBT. MY AVERAGE BAD DEBT THAT I WRITE OFF EVERY MONTH, IT'S $541,346. AND TO DATE, WE WROTE OFF $5 MILLION IN CODMAN COUNTY. THAT'S JUST CODMAN COUNTY. WOW. SO, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD MONTH. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TWO MORE, 200 MORE TRANSPORTS. AND SO, LIKE, MY NET REVENUE FOR THIS MONTH WAS 906,000 LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR AT THIS SAME TIME, MY NET REVENUE WAS 614,000. UM, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME ALSO, I WAS JUST TAKING OVER. WE HAD A LOSS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY OF $699,369. IN, IN JUNE THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY ARE PLUS, UH, $68,421. A LOT OF THAT GUYS IS GOING BACK IN AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME OF THIS DATA. UM, WE WERE LOSE, WE WERE ROLLING CALLS TO OTHER PEOPLE, THE HOSPITALS, WE WEREN'T CAPTURING. THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR GUARANTEED MONEY. SO WE CAME IN AND STARTED LOOKING AT THE DATA GOING, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT IS OUR BIGGEST CALL VOLUME? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO IT CAME IN AND WE, WE, I PUT A LOT OF SPREADSHEETS TOGETHER. UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE RUN A LOT OF CALLS IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY, BROKE IT DOWN, AND KAUFFMAN COUNTY, GREATER THAN LESS THAN 12, WE RAN, UH, FROM JANUARY TO TODAY, WE RAN 7,166 CALLS. KAUFFMAN COUNTY, GREATER THAN 12 WAS 480 CALLS WE RAN. AND ALL OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY, 16,251 CALLS SO FAR. WHAT'S LESS THAN 12? GREATER THAN 12. WHAT'S SO WHAT WHAT IT IS, IS OUR, OUR BASIS, SO LIKE IN KAUFFMAN, WE HAVE A BASE IN KAUFFMAN. WE HAVE BASES IN FORNEY, WE HAVE BASES IN, IN TARRELL, UH, THE MAJOR HUB KEMP MAYBANK. SO LESS THAN 12 MILES FROM THAT, FROM THAT BASE. OKAY. AND THEN OUTSIDE. SO LIKE WHEN YOU START GETTING DOWN INTO ROSSER, INTO THOSE AREAS, YOU START GETTING THAT'S WHAT THAT, OKAY. UM, SO WE RAN 16,000. BUT WHAT I DID WAS I CAME OVER HERE AND WE, I MADE A GRAPH. WE BROKE THIS DOWN INTO FRACTILE TIMES AND TO THE RIGHT, AS YOU CAN SEE. SO THIS IS SUNDAY. I, I GAVE EVERY RUN ONE, ONE AND A HALF HOURS, AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR PEAK TIME EVERY DAY AT 11 O'CLOCK, IT STARTS RISING. WE HAVE, WE HAVE 10 RESOURCES UP EVERY DAY, 24 HOURS. A COUPLE OF THOSE RESOURCES STARTED OFF AS 16 HOURS. AND I WAS ABLE TO FIN EAGLE SOME TIME ON ANOTHER TRUCK TO MAKE IT AN EIGHT HOUR TRUCK TO GET THAT COMPLETELY ACROSS THE TOP. SO AS YOU LOOK IT, IT, AROUND 11 O'CLOCK, THE CALL VOLUME STARTS PICKING UP AROUND EIGHT OR NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THEY START FALLING OFF. AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS YOU GO THROUGH THE WEEK ALL THE WAY THROUGH. MY GOAL IS, I KNOW IN OCTOBER, WHICH WE KIND OF STARTED IN THIS A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT AT, IN THE BUDGET, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT, WHEN, AT THE END OF THE YEAR BY SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, AND YOU START AVERAGING THOSE OUT AMONGST THE UNITS FOR A 24 HOUR A LS UNIT, IT'S 920,000, GIVE OR TAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT. WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SALARIES AND EQUIPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, AND IN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLOWING MOTORS AND TRANSMISSIONS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT THEY WANT ME TO TAKE OUTTA MY BUDGET. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THEY MAKE ME DO IT. UM, LET'S TO ADD ANOTHER ONE. IN ORDER FOR US TO GET TO 12 UNITS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY TO, UH, AS THE SHERIFF KNOWS THE NORTH, THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, OVER IN MR. PHILLIPS'S AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE HIGH CALL VOLUME. YOU KNOW, YOU START BY TALKING ABOUT YOUR TRAVIS RANGE AND WILMA FARMS, ALL OF THOSE. WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THAT AREA. I, I FEEL LIKE IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE FIXED A LOT OF THAT PROBLEMS OVER THERE BY ADDING THE RESOURCES TO KEEP, 'CAUSE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT AREA GOES CRAZY. THEN YOU START SUCKING OTHER UNITS THAT WAY IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AREA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE CALL VOLUME IS. WELL, THEN YOU GET THESE STRAGGLERS WHERE YOU GET A FEW CALLS DOWN HERE, WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU'RE WAITING 35 AND 40 MINUTES. UM, MY GOAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE I REALLY WANTED IN OCTOBER TO ADD ANOTHER AMBULANCE IN CRANDALL, TEXAS TO HELP WITH THE HEARTLAND TO HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME OF THE TRANSFERS, YOU KNOW, TRANSFERS ARE A KILLER, BUT THEY'RE A PART OF IT. AND WHAT KEEPS, LIKE, EVEN NOW, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A ZERO SUBSIDY. IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING. WELL, WHAT KEEPS THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THOSE TRANSFERS ARE GUARANTEED PAYS FROM THE HOSPITAL. IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T PAY THE HOSPITAL'S PAYING US, TERRELL STATE A BUNCH OF THOSE FACILITIES. UM, AND I KNOW WE STARTED THIS A LITTLE LATE, EVEN LIKE, MAN, I TALKED TO THE JUDGE AND HE WANTED ME TO COME SPEAK TO YOU GUYS TODAY. AND I KNOW THE CONTRACT STARTS OFF IN APRIL, BUT I THINK LONG TERM, WE HAVE TO SIT DOWN. WE NEED TO SIT AROUND A TABLE AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN TO FIX. UM, [01:05:01] EMS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT LAST YEAR THEY STARTED THE NO SURPRISE BILLING FOR THE AIR CLINICAL, JUST FOR AIR GUYS. IT, EVEN US, IT'S AFFECTED US. YOU KNOW, WHERE I, WE SENT, WELL, I'LL JUST SAY, SO THE COUNTY, WE HAD FENTANYL OVERDOSE AT THE, AT THE JAIL. WE HAD TO CALL ANOTHER AIRCRAFT 'CAUSE THEY WERE CLOSER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE, IT IS NOT, DON'T ME WRONG, I I WOULD RATHER SEND MY AIRCRAFT, BUT THERE'S AIRCRAFT IN WILLS POINT. SO THEY CAME OUT, THEY LANDED THE HOSPITAL. WE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WE HAD AT THE JAIL. 'CAUSE WE GOT THE CALL KEPT COMING IN. THERE WAS MORE AND MORE AND MORE. SO WE CALLED FLIGHT FOR LIFE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS PHI, THEY'RE A BIG OUTFIT ACROSS AMERICA. UM, THEY CAME IN, THEY LANDED, THEY PICKED THE PATIENT UP, THEY TOOK 'EM DOWN. SO THE COUNTY GOT A BILL FOR $66,000. OUR AVERAGE BILL IS 38,000. BUT IF I BILL 38,000 TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY LOOK AND THEY GO, OKAY, WELL WOULD I HAVE A, DO I HAVE A HELICOPTER IN NETWORK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? WELL, NO. OR IN, NOR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN OUR AREA, NO. SO THEN ALLOWS 'EM TO GO NATIONWIDE. WELL, SO THEY FIND A MOM AND POP OUTFIT OUT OF NEW YORK THAT GOES FROM, LET'S JUST SAY HERE TO THE FIRE STATION THREE BLOCKS AWAY. THEY CHARGE 800. SO THEN, AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE ALL NUMBERS THAT I'M ON OUT THERE. BUT THEN THEY COME BACK TO CARELY AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS MOM AND POP OUTFIT WILL FLY THEM FOR 800 BUCKS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA PAY YOU. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS 800 OR YOU WANT TO GO TO MEDIATION? WELL, FLAT GOES, NO, WE'RE GONNA PAY A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON TOP OF THAT TO SEND IT TO MEDIATION. HOPEFULLY WE CAN JUSTIFY WHY OUR, YOU KNOW, $7 MILLION, 4 22 AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THAT PARAMEDIC AND THAT NURSE AND THAT PILOT AND ALL THOSE, THOSE, THOSE WHY IT COSTS THAT MUCH. UM, SOMETIMES WE WIN, SOMETIMES WE LOSE. THE BIGGEST DEAL IS, IS SO, YOU KNOW, USED TO, BECAUSE IT WAS EMERGENT. THEY JUST, THEY THEY WROTE A CHECK. WELL, BECAUSE OF THAT BILL. NO. NOW WE'RE WHAT? NOW I HAVE TO, NOW I HAVE TO HOLD ONTO THAT $38,000 BILL HOPING TO GET EVEN 15,000. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO WAIT SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS, NINE MONTHS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY MEETS TO, GETS TO A MEDIATOR. YEAH. UM, WHICH CAUSES PROBLEMS ON THEIR SIDE. WELL GUESS WHAT THE POWERS TO BE. AND LEGISLATURE IS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SENDING DOWN MANDATES, BUT NO MONEY TO FILL IT IN JANUARY. THAT, THAT AFFECTED THE GROUND SIDE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE TWO YEARS FROM THE ROAD, TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD. I HAVE A FUNNY FEELING THAT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PRIVATE EMS THAT'S NOT ATTACHED TO A HOSPITAL WILL GO BROKE. UM, OR, YOU KNOW, DOES DOING COUNTY 9 1 1, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN MAKE IT LIKE THAT. UM, IT'S, UH, EMS IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. I JUST THINK THAT ALL OF US NEED TO SIT AROUND A TABLE AND, AND GET AHEAD OF IT, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS SOMETHING AS WE, AS WE GROW. 'CAUSE THE COUNTY'S ONLY GETTING BIGGER. IT'S GETTING BUSIER EVERY DAY. YEAH. 2000 HOMES HERE. 2000. AND THEY'RE NOT, AND NOT TO BE MEAN, BUT THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUTTA DALLAS. THEY'RE MOVING OUTTA FORT WORTH TO WHERE THEY HAVE AN AMBULANCE ON EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY DOOR, YOU KNOW, AROUND EVERY CORNER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, DALLAS, BUT EVEN DALLAS, YOU KNOW, THEY STRUGGLE WITH EMS. I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN'T THROW ENOUGH MONEY AT IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN US, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY HEALTH TRYING TO GET ABOVE SOME OF THESE FREQUENT FLYERS TO WHERE YEAH. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, EVEN US, WE CAN'T THROW $920,000 ON AN AMBULANCE JUST BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE FOR STUMP TOTAL. SO, SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE OKAY NOW. MM-HMM. UH, COME NEXT YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF HERE FOR TODAY. YES. UH, WE'RE GONNA PLAN. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A SUBSIDY. NO. AND WE HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONTRACT START. THE CONTRACT STARTS OVER IN APRIL. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO THROW SOMETHING OUT AND WE CAN GET CIVIL ATTORNEYS TO START CHECKING. AND I KNOW MERCY MANAGEMENT DEALS WITH SDS AND LOT, BUT YOU CAN HAVE AN ESD THAT IS MEDICAL. IT'S EMS. AND SO ALL OF OUR FIRE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS ARE ALL FIRE. AND THEY DIDN'T VOTE WHEN THEY VOTED. IT WAS CALLED SOMETHING ELSE BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE MERGED VOTED. BUT NOW THEY'RE ES NURSE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS. AND NOW YOU CAN HAVE FOUR EMS. YEP. SO THAT WOULD KIND OF KEEP SIX ONE HALF DOZEN ANOTHER EITHER WE RAISE THE TAX TO PAY A SUBSIDY OR WE CREATE THE SERVICE DISTRICTS TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THE EMS. YOU KNOW, SO JUST LIKE YOU DO A ROAD TAG, SOMETHING HAVE TAX THING. YEAH. I JUST THINK THAT IF WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM, FROM THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS TO BRING TO THE WORKSHOP, THEN WE KNOW WHAT AVENUES WE CAN TRY TO, OUR, OUR CONTRACT IN HILL COUNTY IS [01:10:01] EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY HAVE HILL COUNTY, SD ONE, HILL COUNTY, SD TWO, HILL COUNTY SD TWO IS JUST STRICTLY EMS. THEY RUN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE SITTING RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND IT WORKS GREAT. THEY, UH, THEY BASICALLY, ALL THAT BOARD DOES IS HANDLE EMS. WE HAVE THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY PAY US 800,000. WE HAVE LIKE, I THINK WE HAVE FOUR AND A HALF AMBULANCE HILL COUNTY'S REALLY SMALL. UM, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LIKE, IT'S BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT TAKEN OUT A GENERAL FUND FOR THE COUNTY AND IT, IT'S GUARANTEED EMS MONEY. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY, THEY HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO LIKE THESE LAST FIVE AMBULANCES THEY BOUGHT. WELL BIG DEAL THAT IF, IF WE HAVE THE ESD, WE CAN GET THE NUMBER OF AMBULANCES IN THE COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BUSINESS. THAT'S RIGHT. TIME YOU CONTROL IT. YOU HAVE A BOARD THAT YOUR DSD THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE, AND THEY, THEY DEAL WITH, WELL THE SHERIFF IS RIGHT. 'CAUSE I, OVER THE YEARS, I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH EMS IS JUST ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT'S BIG. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. BEING WITH THE JUDGE, TALKING ABOUT BEING SD FOR MEDICAL. THEN WE'VE GOT, WE CAN PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE, BUT WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY. SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. JEREMY GOT TWO MINUTES. WHAT'S THAT? TWO MINUTES? TWO MINUTES. OH, I'M GOOD. . YOU'RE GOOD? I THINK SO. HEY, I, BUT REALLY I, UH, AUGUST 15TH. THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG DAY. EVEN YOU GUYS LIKE, WE'RE RIBBON CUTTING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME GIFT BAGS AND SOME, YOU KNOW, LITTLE FINGER FOOD STUFF AND UM, UH, PRE RIDE THE HELICOPTER. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. UM, UH, THOSE HELICOPTERS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF IT. YOU KNOW, THEY LET YOU SAY, I THOUGHT, I, I THOUGHT WE COULD FLY IT AROUND. I WAS, IT'S FUNNY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE AS THE, FROM THE AIR SIDE, THEY GET ONTO ME ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF AIRBORNE STANDBYS OUT HERE AND THERE'S NO, THE TAR HANGER WILL ACTUALLY SAVE US A BUNCH OF MONEY. WE, UH, WHEN WE SAY, UH, AIRBORNE STANDBY. 'CAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT NO OTHER AGENCY DOES. IF YOU'RE MORE THAN 22 MILES OUT THE AIRCRAFT'S IN THE AIR AND THEY'RE HEADING TOWARD YOU, THEY RAISE UP, WE DO A LOT OF AIRBORNE STANDBYS IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY. WELL, EVERY TIME THAT BIG FOUR, TWO MONEY IRON PICKS UP, IT'S 800 BUCKS. 'CAUSE THEY TAKE OUT AND THEY FLY OFF AND THEY COME BACK AND THEN THEY HAVE A REFILL. AND SO THEY, THE THE AIR, I HOPE THEY COME BACK. . YEAH. YEAH. I HOPE THEY DO. UH, THEY UH, THEY TALK TO ME ALL THE TIME LIKE, WELL, HURRY UP, MOVE THE AIRCRAFT AND WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE GOOD. SO AUGUST 15TH RIBBON CUTTING AIRCRAFT WILL BE THERE. WE'LL HAVE SOME SIM TRUCKS AND SOME DIFFERENT STUFF. AND THEN THE VERY NEXT WEEK THOSE GUYS ARE MOVING INTO THEIR BASE. SO, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD THING. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK Y'ALL. ASHLEY, IF YOU'LL PUT THE JEN OUT ABOUT THAT, WE'LL ALL BE THERE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, MS. IRMA, WE HAVE IRMA, THEN WE HAVE THE SHERIFF AND THEN WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH. HELLO AGAIN, WHY DON'T YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN SO THEY CAN RECORD BETTER. YES SIR. WHO'S THAT? OKAY. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. SO OUR BUDGET REQUEST IS MUCH SIMPLER. UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR TITLE CHANGES AND UH, WITH THOSE CHANGES, SALARIES CHANGES. SO IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE MISTITLED. ALL THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS FOR HUMAN RESOURCES GENERALIST. AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE TITLED AS A HUMAN RESOURCES DEPUTY CLERK THREE, WHICH WE ARE NOT DEPUTIZED, WE ARE NOT CLERKS IN THAT REGARDS. MY EMPLOYEES HAVE TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO WORK IN HUMAN RESOURCES ALONG WITH THE WORKERS' COMPENSATION TO ASSIST WITH CLAIMS, UH, LIABILITY CLAIMS, ALL THAT TYPES OF SOURCE OF INFORMATION AS LONG AS WELL AS BUILDING JOB DESCRIPTIONS. SO THOSE ARE WHAT MY EMPLOYEES DO. AND SO WE ARE REQUESTING TITLE CHANGES TO BE IN A ACCORDANCE TO OTHER COUNTIES AND IN HUMAN RESOURCES. SO IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES IS HUMAN RESOURCES, ASSISTANT, HUMAN RESOURCES, GENERALIST TECHNICIAN, ANALYST, MANAGER AND DIRECTOR. THOSE ARE THE TITLES FOR HUMAN RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO U UTILIZE. AND IN COMPLETING SERVICE WITH OTHER COUNTIES, THOSE ARE THE TITLES THAT THEY'RE USING ALONG WITH ALIGNMENT OF THOSE SALARIES. OKAY. SO FAR WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT CHANGING ANYONE'S TITLE AND TO MAKE, 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WHO WANT TO GO FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. MM-HMM. , I GET THAT. BUT THEY WANNA GO FROM THIS TITLE THAT TIME MAINLY FOR THE [01:15:01] INCREASE IN SALARY. AND WE'VE NOT DISCUSSED THAT. AND WE WILL AT SOME TIME. OKAY. UH, SHORTLY. OKAY. SOME OF IT'LL BE, WILL PROBABLY BE WARRANTED AND SOME MAY NOT BE, UH, UNDERSTOOD. WE KNOW HOW THIS GOES. RIGHT. SO, AND THEN ALSO, UH, AND I'VE TOLD SEVERAL WHO HAVE THE CLERK ONES WILL GO TO CLERK THREE. THAT'S SOMETHING THE NEXT YEAR WE NEED TO LOOK AT TO JUSTIFY FROM A ONE TO THREE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MM-HMM. SALARIES. RIGHT. WELL, THERE'S NOT THAT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE JOB DUTY. 'CAUSE SOME THEY DON'T SUPERVISE ANYONE. THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST CLERK WORK. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT CLOSELY IF IT'S JUSTIFIED. RIGHT. IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE NEED TO LEAVE IT ALONE. UH, AND OF COURSE IN YOUR AREA, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMEONE, BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO PUT REALLY ANYONE RIGHT NOW. AND SO, WE'LL WE, CHANCES ARE WE MIGHT PUT THAT OFF UNTIL WE GET OVER TO THE OTHER BUILDING. OKAY. AND THEN LOOK AT THAT. UH, BUT, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM YOU GUYS? NO, I JUST, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NAME CHANGES AND STUFF THAT WE NEED TO SET DOWN. TRY TO GET SOME STANDARD, I GUESS FOR THE, AND Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE PART OF THAT BECAUSE, UH, WE DEPEND ON YOU TO DO SOME RESEARCH FOR US. DEFINITELY. AND WE READY? YEAH. YEAH. SO WE'LL BE READY FOR THAT. AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO IN TWO WEEK PERIOD OF TIME. YES. THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. RIGHT. SO ANYWAY. ALRIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE WE SHERIFF MORNING. SHERIFF MORNING. HOW ARE Y'ALL? GOOD. WELL, I, I THINK THE MAIN THING Y'ALL HAVE GOT IN MY BOOK, Y'ALL HAVE PROBABLY GONE THROUGH IT. UH, THE THINGS I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONCE AGAIN IS JUST ADDING THE PERSONNEL. THE ONE IT, 'CAUSE I ONLY HAVE ONE IT PERSON DOING ALL MY STUFF. SO I'VE GOTTA GET REDUNDANCY PLUS I GOTTA GET HIM SOME HELP. HE IS, UH, BEGINNING TO FLOAT AWAY ON ME. SO I GOTTA GET HIM SOME HELP. THE, THE TWO INVESTIGATORS TRYING TO MOVE THEM OUTTA CID AND PUT THEM IN THE STREET CRIMES, UH, ADD THAT, UH, ALSO REPLACING THE ONE DETENTION OFFICER THAT WE USED TO DO OPEN RECORDS. 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING OVER 400 A MONTH. SO Y'ALL GAVE ME THE, I TOOK AWAY A DETENTION STAFF TO MAKE THAT. SO WHAT I'M JUST WANTING TO DO IS REPLACE THAT ONE BACK. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE STEP STUFF. I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT. UH, ALSO REMOVING, UH, ONE OF THE DETENTION CORPORALS OR TO A DETENTION CORPORAL IN TRAINING. UH, I NEED THAT SPAN OF CONTROL IN BETWEEN THE SERGEANT AND THAT TO HELP ME OUT. UM, BECAUSE THAT DETENTION PERSON IS DOING A LOT MORE. HE'S DOING ALL THE TRAINING. IF YOU NOTICE IN MY REPORTS, YOU JUST GOT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SAVING IN, IN-HOUSE TRAINING. OKAY. UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NEEDED. AND THEN TRY TO GET MY COMMAND STAFF SET AND STRUCTURED BETTER AT THE DISPATCH CENTER. WE ALWAYS HAVE SERGEANTS, BUT ALL WE HAD IS, UH, WE CALL 'EM CTOS, COMMUNICATION TRAINING OFFICERS. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THEM. WE'VE GOTTA GET THEM AS CORPORALS AND THEN GET OUR ALSO TRAINING. THAT WAY I HAVE MY SPANNING CONTROL WHEN I HAVE SOMEBODY, THE SERGEANTS OUT, SOMEBODY THAT IS GONNA TAKE CHARGE AND I'M PAYING 'EM FOR THAT. SO I THINK WE CAN GET SOME LEGAL ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD IF SOMEBODY'S DOING THE JOB AND NOT THAT TITLE. SO WE'RE JUST NOT ADDING POSITIONS, JUST MOVING THEM TO CORPORALS. AND Y'ALL SEEN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN MY BOOK. YEAH. OF WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS GOOD. I WILL TELL YOU THIS MUCH, UH, TIME TO INSIGHT FOR NEXT YEAR. I'VE ALREADY GOT SOME BIDS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS NEXT, THE NEXT BUDGET. UH, ALL OF OUR DOOR CONTROLS AND STUFF ARE AT THE END OF LIFE. I WENT AHEAD AND GET SOME BIDS 'CAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SURE. WE'RE LOOKING, ONE BID IS 850,000. THE OTHER ONE IS RIGHT AT A MILLION. WOW. BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT. AND THAT'S FOR THE JAIL? HUH? THAT'S FOR THE JAIL. THAT'S THE WHOLE JAIL. SO YEAH. I'M JUST GIVING YOU HEADS UP. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN 25 BUDGET. WELL, SO OUR 26 BUDGET HAVE TO DO IT. WE HAVE TO DO IT. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I'M TRYING TO GET PREPARED FOR THAT. 'CAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO IT IN PHASES. LIKE WE'VE DONE SOME STUFF IN THE PAST, JUST TRYING TO DO A PHASE HERE, A PHASE THERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG SOME OF THOSE, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO DO IT IN TWO PHASES IF I CAN. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK I CAN GO THREE. 'CAUSE I, WE, I MEAN IT'S THAT END OF LIFE. I CAN'T GET NO MORE STUFF. IS THERE ANY GRANT STUFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I KNOW OF NO GRAND STUFF WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT JAIL. YEAH. I'M, I'M TELLING YOU, YOU KNOW, JAIL IS JUST A, THEY'RE A MUDDY PIT. IT'S A MONEY PIT. I'M SORRY. YEAR WAS THAT JAIL BILL. 2004 WAS WHEN WE MOVED IN IT. SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE DONE BEEN THROUGH ONE CYCLE OF CHANGING. YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM. TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT, BUT TECHNOLOGY ENDS AND THEN YOU'VE GOTTA UPGRADE IT. SO WE DID SOME [01:20:01] UPGRADES TO WHEN OLD KEY. IT JUST REALLY WORKED ALL THE TIME. IT WORKED REAL GOOD. MM-HMM. BUT IT DID. BUT NOW WE GOT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY, SO YEAH. STILL SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF PUT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. BUT I DO HAVE THAT AND I'M GONNA SEND THAT FORWARD. THAT WAY WE CAN TRY TO GET A PLAN OF ACTION DOWN THE ROAD. WELL AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU TALK TO YOUR TECHNICAL PEOPLE TO FIND IT. TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE ANYTHING ELECTRONIC LIKE THAT, JUST DO THE WHOLE THING. 'CAUSE THEY GOTTA MAKE A PATCH TO MAKE IT ALL WORK. YEAH. SO JUST OH, IT'S A AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL SAY. THAT'S WHY I LIKE Y'ALL KNOW ME DO AND BE DONE. I'M, I'M PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TELLING YOU YOU GOTTA SPEND SOME MONEY AND YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S A WAY OUT. BUT WHEN WE'RE AT THE END OF LIFE STUFF AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIFE SAFETY STUFF, OF OPENING DOORS AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT. JAIL STANDARDS LOOKS GOOD. US BIG ON THAT. CAN YOU OPEN THEM IF THE ELECTRONIC DON'T WORK? YES. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT BACKUP, BUT YOU CAN'T DEPEND ON IT WHEN IT'S NOT DESIGNED THAT WAY. SO THEY'LL, WE WANNA KEEP A GOOD RECORD WITH THE JAIL STANDARDS FOR THE INSPECTION GUARANTEE YOU. 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA GO TO COURT IN TRAVIS COUNTY. NO, WE'LL LOSE. YEAH. YOU GOT IT. SO, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING APPRECIATE Y'ALL BREAK FOR LUNCH AND WE'LL BE BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK. OH, WE'RE ON AIR. OKAY. WE WILL BEGIN RESUME OUR BUDGET HEARING. SO FIRST UP WE HAVE COURTNEY WELFARE BOARD. MA'AM. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW, HOW ARE YOU DOING? GREAT. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US. UM, SO AS Y'ALL KNOW, I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY. AND WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION AND WE ARE REQUESTING 40,000, WHICH IS THE SAME AS Y'ALL GAVE US LAST YEAR. AND SO WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT WE SUBMITTED OUR FINANCIALS AND DEBBIE BONNER IS OUR TREASURER AND SHE CAN, YOU KNOW, KEEPS TRACK OF EVERYTHING PERFECTLY FOR US, OBVIOUSLY AS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. UM, AS Y'ALL REMEMBER, WE DID HAVE THAT TRANSITION FROM CPS TO A PRIVATIZED AGENCY CALLED EMPOWER. SO I WANTED TO REPORT THAT THINGS ARE GOING REALLY WELL WITH THAT TRANSITION. SO WE HAVE PARTNERED WELL WITH THEM AND UM, AND IT WAS ROCKING IN THE BEGINNING. UM, BUT WE DID, UM, SMOOTH IT OUT BECAUSE I KEPT PERSISTING TO MAKE, HAVE THEM COME TO MEETINGS AND TO, YOU KNOW, BE A PART OF IT AND TO KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE, THE COUNTY'S HERE AND WE SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE THE CONSERVATORSHIP UNIT. SO THEY HAVE THE CUSTODY, IF YOU WILL, OVER OUR ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN. AND SO WE WANTED THEM TO KNOW THAT KAUFFMAN COUNTY SUPPORTS THEM AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN CARE. AND SO THEY HAVE TAKEN NOTE OF THAT AND THEY HAVE, WE'VE TRANSITIONED WELL AND THEY, UH, WE, THEY'VE EVEN HOSTED US AT THEIR OFFICE FOR ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. UM, AND SO THAT WE COULD TAKE A TOUR OF THEIR OFFICE. THEY, WE DO HAVE AS WHENEVER WE SUBMITTED THIS REPORT IN JUNE 50, UH, 57 KIDDOS IN CARE JUST WITHIN POWER. SO, BUT IF Y'ALL WILL REMEMBER THAT THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD NOT ONLY HELPS EMPOWER NOW, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE CPS SIDE OF IT. IT, SO THAT'S GONNA BE INVESTIGATIONS AND FAMILY BASED SAFETY SERVICES AND THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE UNITS THAT THEY HAVE IN CPS. SO WE'RE GETTING REQUESTS NOT ONLY FROM EMPOWER NOW BUT ALSO FROM INVESTIGATIONS. THEY'RE HANDLING THEIR OWN REQUESTS, WHICH WE HAVE SERVICE. SO THO THAT PORTION IS TRYING TO KEEP THE KIDDOS IN THE CUSTODY OF THEIR PARENTS OR IN A FAMILY PLACEMENT. AND SO WE SUPPORT THAT BY PROVIDING BEDDING, YOU KNOW, UM, FORMULA, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO WITH EMPOWER, UM, WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING, UM, ABOUT BACK TO SCHOOL. WE GOT A REQUEST IN FOR THAT. SO WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND WE STILL PARTNER WITH CASA AND WITH REACH TO USE FUNDS COLLECTIVELY AND YOU KNOW, JUST BE GOOD STEWARDS OVER THE MONEY THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES TO THE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDDOS. YEAH. WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL SUPPLIES ARE YOU HAVING TO, I KNOW SOME OF THE SCHOOLS GIVE THEM A LOT OF SCHOOL SUPPLIES. THAT'S TRUE. BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME THEY DON'T OR SOME ITEMS. SO WHAT ARE YOU HAVING TO COME UP WITH WHENEVER THEY GET KIDDOS THAT ARE LAST MINUTE INTO CARE? 'CAUSE WE DO ENCOURAGE PE WE ENCOURAGE EMPOWER WORKERS, INVESTIGATIVE, UH, WORKERS AND EVERYONE TO USE THOSE ALTERNATIVE, UM, RESOURCES BEFORE WE SPEND ANY OF OUR FUNDS. AND SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO SOME OF THEM AND MOST OF THEM HOST THOSE BACK TO SCHOOL, WHICH WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN AND MOST OF THEM DO. BUT WHEN THEY HAVE LAST MINUTE KIDDOS WHO COME INTO CARE RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE A SIBLING SET OF THREE THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA SERVICE, UM, THAT ARE TEENS AND THEN LIKE A, UM, IT'S LIKE ONE, ONE IN ELEMENTARY, ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ONE HIGH SCHOOL. RIGHT. AND SO THOSE LAST MINUTE KIDDOS THAT DIDN'T GET TO PARTICIPATE, UM, WE TRY TO OBVIOUSLY GO TO CASA FIRST AND SAY, HEY, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY SUPPLIES LEFT OVER? AND THEN WHATEVER ELSE REMAINS, WE USE THE FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY. SO WE DEFINITELY, LIKE I SAID, TRY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OVER WHAT THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED. GO TO OTHER [01:25:01] RESOURCES. I HAVE ALSO LOOKED INTO OTHER RESOURCES EVEN FOR THE BEDDING. AND PAM QUARTER IS GREAT FOR THAT TOO. SO OBVIOUSLY SHE STILL PARTICIPATES WITH THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT WHEN SHE CAN. SHE'S A VERY BUSY WOMAN. UH, BUT WHEN SHE CAN, SHE HELPS US OUT WITH OTHER RESOURCES TOO BEFORE WE SPEND ANY OF THE MONEY. AND ALSO DO DO LOT OF WORK. YOU DO A LOT OF WORK. THANK YOU. WITH THE COMBO, THE CPS AND EMPOWER TOGETHER, WE'RE GETTING THEM THE DUAL REQUEST AND OUR RAINBOW ROOM IS ACTUALLY AT THE CPS OFFICE NOW. UM, I'VE BEEN BEEN WORKING WITH CASEY MORRIS TO MOVE IT TO THIS MOTOR BANK BACK HERE SO THAT THE BOTH SIDES IN POWER AND CPS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT 24 HOURS A DAY. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW EMPOWER CAN ONLY GO TO CPS WHEN CCPS IS OPEN. MONDAY TO FRIDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE. AS YOU KNOW, THESE KIDS COME INTO CARE ALL, ALL TIMES, DAY, NIGHT, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EIGHT TO FIVE MONDAY TO FRIDAY. MM-HMM. . SO OUR IDEA WAS TO PUT IT HERE AT THIS MOTOR BANK, PUT A CODE ON THE DOOR SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT 24 7 AND WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT 24 7 SO THAT WE COULD GO IN AND KNOW WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE RESTOCKED. KNOW WHAT'S THERE VERSUS NOT THERE. SO THAT WHEN WE GET THOSE CALLS WE CAN SAY, HEY, THERE IS THREE CAR SEATS THERE, THERE ARE TWO PACK AND PLACE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BACKPACKS WITH SCHOOL SUPPLIES OR, OR WHATEVER. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE CPS CONTROL OF THAT BUILDING. WE HAVE TO GO, HEY, HAVE YOU GONE AND LOOKED AT THE RAINBOW ROOM? YEAH. WE LOOKED, THERE'S NOTHING THERE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME WE'RE THERE WE'RE LIKE, IS THAT ROOM GONNA BE BIG ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU NEED? I THINK IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS WHAT WE HAVE NOW BECAUSE I SAW THE RAMBO ROOM LAST YEAR. RIGHT. IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE THAT BIG. AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE BIG ENOUGH. RIGHT. WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THAT FOR A WORKOUT. WE HAD WORKOUT STUFF AND REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW, IS IT STILL IN THERE? YOU QUIT GOING WORKOUT STUFF IS STILL IN THERE, BUT CASEY'S WORKING IT GETTING BUT I MEAN HE CAN TAKE IT AWAY. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. NOBODY USES IT. . UM, WE, UH, NO, I, I JUST IGNORED THE AND AND JUDGE ALSO. OKAY. 'CAUSE HE QUIT BEFORE ME THE CAR. I SAID I'M LISTENING . THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. AND SO, UM, THE RAINBOW ROOM IS EVEN MORE ORGANIZED THAN WHEN YOU LAST SAW IT. OKAY. AND SO WE REALLY TRY TO UTILIZE THE SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED. AND SO WE'VE TALKED AND WE REALLY DO FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE AN OKAY SPACE. WE DON'T NEED THAT BIG OF A SPACE. WE JUST NEED ORGANIZATION. SO, UM, AND ACCESSIBILITY WHEN YOU NEED IT. AND ACCESSIBILITY WHENEVER WE NEED IT. ESPECIALLY AFTER HOURS. 'CAUSE DEBBIE BRINGS UP A REALLY GREAT POINT. 'CAUSE WE GET NOT ONLY REQUESTS WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS, OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS, WE ALSO GET EMERGENCY REQUESTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE MONTH. AND SO THE WORK, WHENEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, KIDDOS COME INTO CARE AS WE'VE PRESENTED TO Y'ALL AND AS YOU HEAR AT OUR EVENT THAT WE HOST EVERY APRIL, THEY COME WITH NOTHING. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DEBBIE FIELDS A LOT OF THOSE EMERGENCY REQUESTS AND THEN SHE'LL COME TO ME AND WE'LL GO TO THE BOARD AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE. AND SO HAVING THAT ACCESS TO THE, TO THE BUILDING BEHIND Y'ALL WOULD BE AWESOME BECAUSE THEN WE COULD JUST HAVE A CODE, MAKE SURE AND THEN ALSO CONTROL IT WITH A SIGN OUT SHEET AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP TRACK OF OUR ITEMS. THAT'S A SIMPLE LOCATION'S EASY TO GET TO. YES SIR. NO ISSUE PARKING. RIGHT. HAVE YOU GET ON THE HIGHWAY? YES SIR. WHICH COULDN BE AND RELATIVELY SAFE. IT'S RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, SO IT CHECKED ALL THE BOXES IN OUR MIND. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. Y'ALL HAVE ANY OH, SOMEBODY Y'ALL COME DOWN AND GET STUFF OUT. Y'ALL JUST TELL NO, WE JUST TELL THEM TO, TO GO LOOK AT THE RAINBOW ROOM AND THEN REPORT BACK. THEY DON'T. SO POWER JUST GOES UP THERE AND JUST DOES IT. YES. RIGHT. YES SIR. LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY LIMITATION IS THEY HAVE TO GO DURING BUSINESS HOURS. DURING HOURS. OKAY. AND MONDAY BE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR? YES SIR. TURN DOWN ANY ONE ON DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY GOT LAST YEAR? YES SIR. JUST THE SAME REQUEST. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR RENEWAL. MM-HMM. , YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT MONIQUE IS OUR SECRETARY, SO. YES. SHE'S NOT JUST WELL I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE WAS GONNA BILL SOMETHING FOR YOU. , BUT OKAY. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL DOING. WE JUST SURELY APPRECIATE Y'ALL TOO. YES. YES SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT YOU . I WAS PICKING ON Y'ALL WOULD, BUT SHE'S ALL LOOKING AT YOU ALL LIKE, HEY, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT YOU UP TO GET ON UP HERE? WE'RE READY TO NOW. YEP. YOU GOT TWO MINUTES. THAT IS PERFECT. YOU LOST A MINUTE. SITTING DOWN NOW. THERE. Y'ALL DOING OKAY TODAY? YEAH. LET ME FIND YOUR STUFF. [01:30:02] THIS IS A COPY FOR YOU GUYS. UM, OH, BLESS ALL OF WELL IT'S THE, THIS IS THE UPDATED THINGS. DO YOU NEED A COPY OF? NO, I JUST WANT TO UPDATE. OKAY. THIS WE TURNED DOWN EVERYTHING ELSE . THIS HAS THE TAB SO YOU KIND OF KNOW WHERE IT GO. FALLS INTO ON THE NOTEBOOK THAT WE ORIGINALLY MADE. OKAY. AND THEN I HAVE ONE FOR TERRY HERE. DO YOU WANT ME TO UH, I DON'T GUESS IT DOES GIVE IT TO ASHLEY. ASHLEY. OKAY. AND ARE WE TO SHIP IT IN HER OFFICE MAIL? YEAH. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL, SO DO YOU KIND OF WANT ME TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE CHANGES? UH, LET'S, YEAH, THAT, SO SOME OF THE CHANGES SINCE OUR LAST BUDGET, UH, THE GAS AND OIL I WAS GOING OVER AND KIND OF PUTTING ALL THE PRICING TOGETHER PER MONTH AND WE ONLY RAISED IT ROUGHLY A THOUSAND DOLLARS. UM, TURNS OUT WHEN WE'RE AVERAGING IT ALL TOGETHER, IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT FOR ALL THE VEHICLES. SO IT ACTUALLY WENT UP TO 28,000. ARE YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE EMPLOYEES. THAT MEANS ANOTHER VEHICLE. SO YOU INCLUDED THAT IN THE GAS NORTH. SO RIGHT NOW THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ARE GOING TO BE PAIRED UP WITH LIKE OUR TECHNICIAN THAT'S GONNA BE PAIRED UP FOR HELPERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO RIGHT NOW I'M HOPING WE'RE GOOD, WE'RE GOOD ON VEHICLES. UM, YOU GONNA MAKE SURE YOU GOT THAT? I WAS GONNA ADDRESS THE VEHICLES IN A MINUTE, BUT IT'S OKAY. I SHOULDN'T NEED ANY MORE GAS AT THIS POINT. ALRIGHT, GOOD DEAL. WE AVERAGE ROUGHLY 2,500, SO WE BROUGHT IT UP TO 28 FROM THE ORIGINAL THAT WE GAVE TO Y'ALL. OKAY. THAT WAS 24. GOT IT. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS A CHANGE AFTER KIND OF GETTING SOME OF OUR REPORTS BACK. PROBABLY NEEDED TO BRING THAT UP. THE OTHER CHANGE WAS ON THE IMPROVEMENTS. MM-HMM. . UM, WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT DOWN. UH, IT WAS, UH, 4 57 AND AFTER TALKING TO JUDGE YOU AND BRIAN BEAVERS, WE, WE ELIMINATED THE PARKING IN THE BACK OF THE JUSTICE CENTER YES. AS ADDED POSITIONS. YES. SO I REMOVED THAT. OKAY. NOW I KNOW WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ALL THOSE PROJECTS IN CASE Y'ALL WANT TO REMOVE OR NOT DO SOME OF THEM. SO THERE'S STILL JUST A . WHAT I'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU MIGHT DO IS VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF 'EM ONE ON ONE. OKAY. AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO FINALIZE EVERYTHING, THEN THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING INSTEAD OF OKAY. HERE TODAY. OKAY. I CAN DO THAT. I'LL VISIT THE 20 BOTTLE. HAVE MORE TIME TO VISIT WITH THE ONE-ON ONE THAN IN HERE. YES, ABSOLUTELY. WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT IS, YOU KNOW THE NEED. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT DEAL WITH THE DIRECTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YES SIR. WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE OR THE REMODELS AND STUFF. SO, I MEAN AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE PROPOSED ALREADY CAME FROM. YES. THIS, THIS WAS, THIS WAS A VISITATION REQUEST WITH ALL OF THEM REQUEST. YES. AND THEY'RE ALL REQUEST YOU JUST FUNDING REQUEST. ABSOLUTELY. I I THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. REALLY. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT HIM TO COME SEE YOU, LET HIM COME SEE YOU. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL COME VISIT YOU ANYWAYS. WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE AN APPOINTMENT MAYBE NEXT WEEKEND AND I'LL COME BY AND VISIT EACH ONE Y'ALL AND KIND OF GO OVER IT ONE ON ONE, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S KIND OF WHERE Y'ALL ARE SEEING IT. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND, UH, TAKE CARE OF ALL THE LOCATIONS AND, MM-HMM? . YES SIR. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS THE IMPROVEMENTS. NOW, THE MAINTENANCE, IT'S LABELED MAINTENANCE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, CONTRACTS. SO IT'S ELEVATOR INSPECTIONS, ELEVATOR PMS, UH, BROAD SPAN OF THINGS. YOU GOT MEDICAL, AFFIRM MEDICAL, WHICH IS ALL OF OUR MEDICAL BOXES, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS, WHICH ARE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH SET. AND YOU VISITED WITH JACK ABOUT ALL THIS, RIGHT? YES. SO THESE CONTRACTS, AND THAT'S WHY THIS CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY RAISED, THAT'S THE ONE REASON WE HAD A MEETING, UH, YESTERDAY. MM-HMM. , I THINK I TALKED TO YOU. UM, WE RAISED IT DUE TO THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE. THE MAIN ONE THAT I WANTED TO CHANGE IS POSSIBLY THE ELEVATOR SERVICE. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY NOW. UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, THE WORKMANSHIP IN THE FIELD IS AS GOOD AS WE'D LIKE. UM, SO JACK'S ACTUALLY GONNA SET UP A MEETING AND TRY TO MAYBE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH 'EM. IF WE CAN SOMEHOW GET THEM TO ADJUST THEIR WORKMANSHIP IN THE FIELD, UH, WE CAN STAY WITH 'EM, BUT IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT ELEVATOR COMPANY, WHICH INCREASED, UH, FROM ONE 19 TO 1 37. OKAY. SO, BUT THE NEW COMPANY, THEY'D VISIT MONTHLY INSTEAD OF QUARTERLY. SO I THINK MORE PMS WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE US MONEY. SAVE US MONEY ON THE LONG RUN, ON THE REPAIRS, OBVIOUSLY. OKAY. SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA, BUT I WANTED TO PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR THE JUST IN CASE. SURE. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING AND SEE IF, IF WE CAN GET IT FIXED. NOW IT'S NOT JUST THIS ELEVATOR, IT'S ALL OF THE ALL, IT'S ALL, IT'S IT'S [01:35:01] GONNA BE NINE ALL OF THE ELEVATORS. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVEN ON CONTRACT. THE, UM, JUSTICE CENTER ANNEX IS WE GOTTA ADD TWO MORE TO THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE ADD TO THE CONTRACT. WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN SIT DOWN AND MAYBE FIX WHAT'S THE PROBLEMS ARE. NOW, IF WE CAN'T, THEN BEFORE WE ADD TO THE CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, THAT PRETTY MUCH KIND OF COVERS THE, THE BASE OF THIS, OF ALL MY MAJOR ONES. EQUIPMENTS ALL THAT'S PRETTY MUCH STAYING. UM, I ADDED THE CUSTODIANS FOR FORNEY AND TERRO THAT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE HERE. LAST BUDGET. MM-HMM. . UM, I PUT IN HERE TOO. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY YOU ON A DIFFERENT TAB NOW. UM, YES. YES SIR. WELL, IT'S ON THE MAIN FRONT. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE, THIS HERE, THE FLOW CHART. BUT YES, IF YOU GO TO THIS ONE WITH THIS FLOW CHART, OKAY. IN COMPARISON TO THE EMPLOYEE ONE POSITIONS, IT'D BE THE, THE SECOND ONE, I'M SORRY, THE THIRD ONE. IT KIND OF GOES OVER THE CUSTODIAN FOR 40. AND TERRELL, IF YOU SEE THAT ON THE, ON THE FIFTH AND SIXTH ONE DOWN, IS EVERYBODY ON THE MM-HMM? WHERE I'M AT? UH, THIS ONE HERE? YES. YES SIR. THAT WOULD BE THE ONE. THOSE ARE THE ONE FOR THE FULL-TIME FORNEY. THEY STAY IN FORNEY. THAT'S THEIR ONLY LOCATION IS, BUT THEY WOULD SHARE WITH FORNEY SUBSTATION AND FORNEY UM, UH, SUB COURTHOUSE. SO THEY WOULD BOUNCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. AND THE ONE IN TERRELL WOULD STAY IN TERRELL, BUT IT WOULD DO ALL THE BUILDINGS. IT WOULD DO ADULT PROBATION, THE CONSTABLES JP THREE AND THE TAX OFFICE AND OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE BECAUSE THAT ONE BUILDING, ONE BUILDING THAT ONE BUILDING PLUS THE ONE BUILDING THE COMMISSIONER'S IN THE BARN. SO IT'D BE, WELL THEY WOULDN'T DO THE BARN BUT NO, THEY DO THE COMMISSIONER'S FRONT OFFICE AREA OFFICE. OKAY. OH YEAH, BECAUSE HE'S ACTUALLY, HE'S ACTUALLY STATION STATIONED THE BARN IN HIS BARN SO RIGHT. THEY CLEAN THE FRONT OFFICE AREA. BUT THAT WOULD BE WHERE THEY WOULD STAY ALL DAY KIND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THERE MAYBE COULD GO WITH ONE, BUT WE'RE ALREADY PRETTY TIGHT ON JANITORIAL AS AS WE ARE. SO I PUT IN HERE TOO, KIND OF THE WAY WE TALKED, I'M JUST THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN IN THE BUILDING. MM-HMM. IT'S GONNA TAKE ALL DAY TO CLEAN THE BUILDING. I DUNNO ASKING IT. IT'S A SOLID FIVE HOURS IN TARRO AND THAT'S NOT DEEP CLEANING, THAT'S NOT CLEANING WINDOWS, THAT'S JUST VACUUMING AND THAT'S JUST THAT ONE BUILDING. UH, THE SUBSTATION, YOU'RE PROBABLY A GOOD, IF YOU ACTUALLY GOT IN THERE AND DID THE SAME THING EVERY DAY, YOU'RE PROBABLY A GOOD SOLID THREE HOURS EVERY DAY AT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE. SUB COURTHOUSE. NO, NO, NO, NO. I'M BACK IN TERRELL. OH, IN TERRELL. IF YOU DID THE LONG, THE ADULT PROBATION CONSTABLE, THE JP THREE AND THE TAX OFFICE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE CLEANING IT FOUR HOURS IS WHAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED. AND THAT'S GOING THROUGH LIGHT, VACUUM LIGHT, UH, SWEEPING THE BATH, MOPPING THE BATHROOMS AND GETTING YOUR TRASH OUT. BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY DID A DEEP CLEAN, BUT YOU CLEAN WINDOWS NEED TO CLEAN EVERY DAY. NO SIR. NO SIR. BUT IF RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE NORMALLY BACK IN KAUFMAN ROUGHLY BY NOON TO START DOING SOME BUILDINGS IN KAUFMAN BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAVELING. AND SO, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK YOU HAD THAT CONCERN IS THEY'RE NOT THERE AFTER LUNCH. AND NORMALLY THE RESTROOMS GET THE MOST USE AFTER LUNCH AND THE TRASH IS NORMALLY PILED UP FROM FOOD FROM AFTER LUNCH AND STUFF. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HAVE IS I CAN'T OPEN THE PUBLIC BATHROOM 'CAUSE IT GETS SO NASTY, SO QUICK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN AS SOON AS SOMEBODY GOES IN THERE AND MESSES IT UP, THEY COME BACK OUT TO THE FRONT. WELL I CAN'T GO THERE. MM-HMM THEN YOU HAVE TO LOCK IT UP. THERE'S NOBODY THERE'S TO CLEAN IT. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. AND NOBODY WANTS TO CLEAN IT. I CAN'T TALK ANYBODY INTO IT. . OKAY. WE GET, WE GET, YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN. DIRTY RESTROOMS AND UH, VOMITING. YEAH. WE HAVE A LOT OF CLEANUPS OF THAT HERE RECENTLY. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THOSE. UH, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. IF I DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THERE ALL DAY, THEN IT SITS OR THEY HAVE TO MAKE EMERGENCY CALLS, SAY HEY SOMEBODY AND I HAD TO SEND SOMEBODY ALL THE WAY BACK OVER THERE. ALRIGHT ELSE. UM, THOSE ARE THE MA THE MAIN, THE MAIN FOCAL POINTS THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOU. LEMME ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, OKAY? OKAY. ON YOUR CHART HERE, WHICH ONE ARE YOU? THE FLOW CHART. THE FLOW CHART? YES SIR. NEW POSITION SUPERVISOR. EXACTLY. WHAT WOULD THAT ONE DO? AND YOU GOT ONE ON THE LEFT. WHAT IS THAT ONE DOING SPECIFICALLY? SO THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS ALREADY THE SUPERVISOR. THAT'S BOBBY, UH, BOBBY JAMES. HE, ALRIGHT. HE'S RUNNING THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK ORDER SYSTEMS, UH, OVERSEEING JANITORIAL AND RIGHT NOW HE'S OVERSEEING THE LAWNS. SO HE OVERSEES THE CREW IN THE LAWNS, THE, THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK ORDER SYSTEMS THAT ARE COMING IN. OKAY. AND SO I [01:40:01] KIND OF SEPARATE ANYTHING THAT LASTS OVER TWO DAYS IS A PROJECT. ANYTHING UNDER TWO DAYS IS A DAY. A DAILY. OKAY. SO HE OVERSEES THE DAILY AND THEN HE OVERSEES ALL THE JANITORIAL, THE BUILDINGS, THE CLEANING. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT SUPERVISOR DOES NOW IS HOW I'D LIKE TO SEE IT FLOW. THE SECOND ONE OVER HERE, THE NEW POSITION SUPERVISOR. MM-HMM. . THAT ONE'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WANNA MOVE TO LIKE A UH, PROJECT SUPERVISOR WORKS WITH UH, VENDORS, CONTRACTORS, UH, ANY PROJECT THAT Y'ALL NEED DONE, COME VISIT IT, WALK THE SITE, DESIGN IT, AND THEN OVERSEES THE GUYS IF WE'RE DOING IT IN HOUSE, IF THE CONTRACTORS ARE DOING IT LIKE JUVENILE DAILY, GO OVER THERE, CHECK IN, MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TASK AND WE'RE GONNA HIT THE DEADLINE, SCHEDULE OUT PROJECTS, STUFF LIKE THAT. ALSO THAT POSITION AFTER TALKING TO NATHAN WITH IT MM-HMM , HE'S ALSO NEEDING, NEEDING A GUY. AND WE HAVE TALKED THAT HE NEEDS AN INSTALLER RIGHT NOW. HE SUBS IT ALL OUT TO LIKE TEAR ALARM, DIFFERENT PLACES LIKE THAT. HE'S WANTING TO BRING A GUY IN HOUSE BUT HE DOESN'T NEED 'EM ALL THE TIME. SO HE NEEDS A GUY THAT CAN DO DATA DROPS, RUN DATA LIKE WE JUST DID FOR THE SHOWGROUNDS GETTING NETWORK DOWN THERE. MM-HMM. . WELL THE GUY THAT I HAVE THAT I KIND OF ALREADY BROUGHT HIM IN AS A TECH, BUT I'D LIKE TO MOVE HIM UP HERE IS HE COMES FROM THAT. SO HE DOES DATA DROP RUNS, NETWORK, ALL THAT STUFF ALREADY. SO HE'LL ACTUALLY BE A SUBSTITUTE FOR INSTALL FOR THE IT AS WELL. OKAY. SO WHAT ELSE, IF THAT'S NOT A FULL-TIME JOB, EVERYDAY JOB, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WOULD HE BE DOING? SO THE PROJECTS HERE RECENTLY WE'RE, I PUT A LIST OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. AND OF COURSE Y'ALL ALREADY SEEN THE LIST FOR NEXT YEAR. WE'VE ALREADY THIS YEAR SINCE OCTOBER HAVE DONE 20 PROJECTS AND WE'RE STILL MOVING THE PROJECTS IS ESPECIALLY THE DIRECTION WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TO SAVE MONEY AND KIND OF DO MORE STUFF IN-HOUSE. THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A, THAT'S GONNA BE A FULL-TIME. MAINLY BY ITSELF JUST OVERSEEING PROJECTS, OVERSEEING VENDORS, GETTING, GETTING THE THREE QUOTES FOR THE PURCHASING POLICIES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S A, THAT'S A BUSY, ALMOST A FULL-TIME JOB IN ITSELF. JUST OVERSEEING THOSE. AND SO THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO KIND OF STEP BACK AND DO WHAT I'M ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. SO. OKAY. UH, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE EXTRA IF THE GUY THAT, THAT I WAS SEEING THAT DOES THAT CAN ALSO DO DATA DROP TOO, WHICH WILL HELP NATE OUT AND OBVIOUSLY SAVE US MONEY IF OBVIOUSLY IT'LL SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY. YES. THAT DATA DROP IS NOT CHEAP AND IF WE CAN DO THAT IN-HOUSE, THAT WILL HELP A LOT TOO. SO, OKAY. YES SIR. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT POSITION WAS FOR. AND SINCE I'M WANTING TO MOVE THAT, THAT TAKES AWAY FROM SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS. SO THAT'S WHY ON THE DAILIES WE'RE UP IN, I PUT A LIST IN THERE OF MANAGER PLUS THERE'S A LIST IN THERE. WE'RE ROUGHLY UP 15 TO 30 WORK ORDERS A WEEK MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN AVERAGING. UM, AND FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF HALFWAY MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO START. UM, IT'S GETTING AND IT'S JUST GROWING SLOWLY BUT SURELY. UH, THESE NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE GONNA BE AMAZING AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRING MORE MAINTENANCE THAN WHAT I THINK YOU ANTICIPATE WE ANTICIPATED. UM, SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, I COULD ALMOST LEAVE A GUY, A MAINTENANCE GUY AT THE JUSTICE CENTER FULL TIME AND ALMOST KEEP HIM BUSY. OH YEAH. UM, SO RIGHT NOW I HAVE BOBBY JAMES KIND OF, HE'S STILL DOING SOME STUFF IN THE FIELD 'CAUSE WE JUST, RIGHT NOW I HAVE UM, UH, ONE GUY DOING DAILIES AND BOBBY JAMES IN AND OUT. UM, TWO GUYS MOWING AND TWO GUYS ON THE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS GOING RIGHT NOW AT THE SAME TIME. ONE IS FULLY SUBBED OUT, ONE WE'VE KIND OF PUT ON HOLD, KIND OF JUMP IN THERE WHEN WE CAN AND THEN TERRELL'S GOING RIGHT NOW TOO. SO IT'S JUST A AND YOU THINK YOU'LL FINISH THAT THIS WEEK? YES SIR. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE TERRELL DONE AT, ON OUR, ON OUR MAINTENANCE SIDE, ON OUR IN-HOUSE SIDE. I STILL GOTTA SUB OUT THE CARPET. THE CARPET'S GETTING SUBBED OUT, WHICH WILL BE DONE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK. AND THEN THE GLASS DOOR FRONT WE'RE ADJUSTING. OKAY. WHEN YOU LEAVE THERE, YOU'RE GOING GOING TO TWO? WE'RE GOING TO TWO. OKAY. YES SIR. YES SIR. THAT'S THE GOAL. ALRIGHT. UM, AS LONG AS EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED AND WE DON'T GET PULLED AWAY , NOTHING ELSE BREAKS. YES, YES. UH, WHEN RAIN HITS WE KIND OF GET, WE KIND OF HAVE TO RE REDIRECT WHEN WE GET THESE HEAVY RAINS THAT WE'VE BEEN RANDOMLY GETTING HERE RECENTLY. SO YEAH. OKAY. UH, OF COURSE I ALREADY WENT OVER THE MAIL, UH, LAWN. IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF YARDS. IT'S, I THINK WE WENT OVER IT, I THINK IT WAS 80 ACRES, ROUGHLY. IF YOU COUNT ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE. UH, CEMETERY, POOR FARM SHOWGROUNDS, ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE. UH, I DON'T WANNA BUY ANOTHER TRUCK. I THINK WE CAN HAVE 'EM ALL THREE RIDE IN ONE. BUT I'D ALSO, WE BOUGHT, WE PURCHASED THE PRESSURE WASHER. I'D LIKE TO GET AHEAD 'CAUSE A LOT OF THESE PARKING [01:45:01] LOTS, THE ONE YOU'RE PARKING IN TODAY, THEY REALLY NEED TO BE PRESSURE WASHED AND CLEAN WHERE WE REMOVE SOME STRIPING AND STUFF. BUT, OH, SO I'M NOT IN A PARKING PLACE PARKED BEHIND YOU . NO SIR. AND IT'S BEEN HAPPENING ALL WEEK OR LAST TWO WEEKS THAT SINCE I'VE RETRIP IT, YOU KNOW, MY, WE TONY PARK THERE 'CAUSE WHEN WE CAME OUT WE WERE BLOCKED IN. OH WE, THE TRUCK WASN'T WE TIME PARKED BETWEEN THE TWO OF US TO KEEP US FROM BEING LOCKED IN WE'RE TOWED. OH YEAH. . IT'S BEEN HAPPENING A LOT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I'VE SET BEFORE BY PEOPLE LIKE HIM TOO. SO I WOULD, I'D BE SITTING THERE THINKING THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON WHY . YEAH. YOU TAUGHT ME INTO DOING THAT. YEAH. SO YOU CAN GET OUT. UM, IT'S BEEN HAPPENING A LOT. WE, WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO GRIND THE CONCRETE TO GET ALL THE PAINT UP. YEAH. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU GRIND THE CONCRETE, YOU GET A NICE CLEAN STRIP. SO NOW IT'S NOT PAINT, IT'S ACTUALLY FRESH CONCRETE CONCRETE. REVERSE THE DIRTY CONCRETE. SO IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE LINES AGAIN. SO WE HAD TO COME OVER AND PRESSURE WASH. SO TOTAL THAT WOULD GIMME THE, ALRIGHT. TOTAL, TOTAL. JUST UH, NEW PEOPLE. YOU'VE GOT ONE SUPERVISOR THAT'S ONE THERE. YES SIR. YES SIR. A TECH THREE SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DOES THAT PERSON DO? SO THE TECH THREE IS MORE FOR THE DAILIES. I LIKE FOR THEM TO GO OUT. IF THEY, IF THEY GET A WORK ORDER AND THEY GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE JOB, THEY'RE THERE. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CALL. WHAT THEY NEED TO FIX. RIGHT. THEN I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT. NORMALLY A TECH ONE IS A HELPER, GETS TOOLS, GETS RIGHT. PULLS EQUIPMENT. THE TECH THREE IS A MORE EXPERIENCED HAND. THE GUY THAT DO THE JOB THAT KNOWS THE JOB THAT CAN DO THE JOB ON HIS OWN. OKAY. NOW MAIL DO YOU HAVE, DON'T YOU ALREADY HAVE A PERSON DOING MAIL RIGHT NOW? MY JANITORIAL, I HAVE TO CUT MY JANITORIAL SHORT AND HAVE THEM DOING MAIL. 'CAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WE BROUGHT IN A CLERK, A CLERK ONE, AND FOR HER TO DO MAIL, BUT THERE IS ZERO WAY SHE CAN DO MAIL. THERE'S, LAST WEEK ALONE, THEY TRIED TO HAVE HER FOR THREE DAYS FULL JUST BUILDING THIS, UH, UMM MUNI SYSTEM. YEAH. FOR A SOLID THREE DAYS. AND THIS IS HAPPENS EVERY TWO WEEKS THAT I GOTTA DO IT THIS WEEK TOO. SO, SO IT, IT'S KILLING ME IN THE OFFICE. BUT YES, THERE'S, SO RIGHT NOW I'M HAVING TO PULL MY JANITORIAL. THAT'S THE THIRD PERSON. YES. THEN BELOW JANITORIAL PEOPLE, YOU'VE GOT TWO NEW CUSTODIANS. YES, SIR. WHICH I CAN ATTEST YOU NEED. YES SIR. OKAY, SO THAT'S FIVE PEOPLE. THEN OVER HERE UNDER WILLIAM, YOU HAVE A NEW POSITION, TECH ONE, WHICH IS A HELPER. HELP. WHICH IS A HELPER. THAT'S NUMBER SIX. THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE MORE FOR LAWN? YES SIR. SEVEN. OKAY. I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT GUYS. IT IT DOES. BUT THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GROWING, WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE OLD COURTHOUSE UP NEXT YEAR TOO. SO YES SIR. HERE WE GO. YES SIR. IT'S, WE'RE STANDING, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS. I GET THAT. AND A LOT OF LAWN LIKE JUSTICE CENTER, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. YES SIR. WHERE THEY PUT IN FLOWER BEDS. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN FLOWER BEDS. YES. WE EITHER NEED GRASS OR WE NEED EXTRA TURF. MM-HMM. CONCRETE. WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN ADJUSTING THAT. UH, POUR CONCRETE AND GREEN PAINT. YOU KNOW, SOLVES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I'M TELLING YOU, I'M TELLING YOU. WE HAVE SLOWLY BEEN FIXING THAT. SOME OF 'EM, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TURNING INTO MAYBE LIKE A, LIKE A ROCK GARDEN INSTEAD OF A ACTUAL GARDENING. BUT, UM, AND A LOT OF IT WE'VE BEEN REMOVING THE FLOWER BEDS OR MOVING THE, THE EDGING AND TURNING IT INTO GRASS. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THAT. AND JUST TREES AND GRASS IS, IS REALLY PRETTY. SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE OVER THERE. IF YOU JUST FILLED THAT IN A ROCK, IT'S TWO HOLES. MM-HMM. BUT BENCHES RIGHT THERE, PEOPLE WOULD SIT OUT THERE AND ENJOY YOURSELF. ABSOLUTELY. AND IT'S REALLY NICE, CLEAN, CRISP LOOKING. YES. THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN, I MEAN SLOWLY WORKING TOWARDS WHEN WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A FLOWER POT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. OH YEAH. ONCE A YEAR. SOMETHING EVERY YEAR BUY A NEW ONE. WE SPENT TWO DAYS AT THE PET ADOPTION ALONE PULLING FLOWERS AND DEAD FLOWERS AND TREES OR BUSHES AND STUFF. SO YEAH. AND TURNING IT AND REMOVING THE EDGING SO THAT WAY IT TURNS BACK INTO GRASS AND WE CAN MOW. SO YES, WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. YOU DO A LOT MORE MAYBE THIS WINTER. OH YEAH. YOU'RE BUSY MOWING RIGHT NOW. YES. WHEN WE CAN SLOW OFF ON THE MOWING. WE WILL. ALRIGHT. AND I SIT DOWN CASEY HERE WHILE BACK AND THEY HAVE A, WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE COMING HERE, Y'ALL ARE CHALLENGED AND I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO GET IT ALL RESTRUCTURED AND TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING ROLLING. SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN TOUGH ON THAT, SO NO, I'VE JUST, IT'S A LOT TO DO. , IT JUST DON'T GET WORSE. IT'S JUST A LOT OF WORK. I KNOW IT'S JUST A LITTLE NOTEBOOK, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT PUT IN BECAUSE THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S A NEED. IT'S A NEED AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER AND IT'S JUST LIKE, WHOA. WELL WE ARE, WE DID NOT, I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT OUT OF THIS COUNTY WHEN I MOVED HERE. SO THIS LAST YEAR, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SO FAR 20 JOBS. THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE STILL DOING MORE PROJECTS, BUT WE'VE DONE 20 [01:50:01] PROJECTS THIS YEAR ALONE. UH, BIG PROJECTS. UM, OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. UH, DEPARTMENT 1 73 FACILITIES PROJECTED BUDGET. YOU GOT ANY CHANGES THERE? YOU NEED TO TELL US ABOUT ON THE 1 73. YES SIR. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WENT OVER EARLIER. ALRIGHT. NOW FOR THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION ROLLING LINE, UH, OF COURSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET TO CARRY THAT FORWARD FROM 24. THE WHAT, WHICH ONE HOUSE RENOVATION YOU GOT? ROLLING LINE 15,000. YES. BUDGET. ROLLING FORWARD FROM 24 BUDGET. BRITTANY SAID THAT BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, THAT WAS FOR THE REMODEL. SO, UH, WHAT I SAID BRITTANY, I'M SORRY. BRANDY. BRANDY. I TALKED TO BRANDY. THAT IS A ROLLING, UH, AMOUNT ALLOTTED FOR THE COURTHOUSE. SO THAT IS SUPPOSED TO ROLL. TALKING TO BRANDY. WELL, IN THE LAW, IN, IN THE, IN THE LAW. YOU CAN'T ROLL SOMETHING OVER? NO. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ROLL. WE'RE GONNA PUT IT BACK ANYWAY. PUT IT BACK. NOT GONNA CARRY FORWARD. OKAY. YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T ROLL IT OVER. IT'S ILLEGAL. THAT GOES BACK TO GENERAL FUND. IT GOES BACK. IF YOU HAVEN'T SPENT IT BY OCTOBER THE FIRST, IT GOES IN THE CONTINGENCY. IN OUR CONTINGENCY. AND THEN WE CAN PUT, SO WE'LL BE ALL. OKAY. THAT WAS THAT 15 WAS THAT. CHECK THAT AND YOU LEAVE SOMETHING TO LAND THERE. IT HAS TO GO IN. I THAT'S WHAT THAT ROOF LEAK, THAT 15,000 THAT THEY PAID US FOR THE ROOF LEAK. THAT'S WHAT THAT MONEY IS. SO IN MY MIND IT'S NOT TAX, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OUTTA MY BUDGET. IT'S NOT TAX DOLLARS. IT'S NOT, YEAH. NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT OUTTA OUR BUDGET. DIFFERENT STORY. YES. TARGET CUT US. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS FOR. IT IS ALLOTTED FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER. HE THERE TO STAY THERE. YEAH. YES SIR. HE STAY THERE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. THAT'S WHAT ME AND BRANDY WERE TALKING ABOUT. GOOD. ROLLING IS THE WRONG WORD TO USE. . YES. YOU CAN'T ROLL SOMETHING OVER. YES, NO, I AGREE. I AGREE. OKAY. ONLY, ONLY ROAD BREEDS CAN ROLL SOMETHING OVER. NOW NUMBER EIGHT, WE'VE GOT THE MAINTENANCE. MM-HMM. FISHING, HEATING, PEST CONTROL. HOW OFTEN DO THEY COME DO THE PEST CONTROL? QUARTERLY. DO Y'ALL DO THAT? WE CONTRACT THAT OUT. WE CONTRACT IT OUT. OUT. COST CONTROL. CONTROL AL'S. YES SIR. YES. I'VE USED THEM A LOT. OKAY. SO THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO US, SO I HAVEN'T, YEAH. OKAY. I THINK SOMETIMES THEY COME WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE. YES, SIR. AND THEN THEY DON'T GET IN THERE. UH, WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE YOURS OUT, UH, FOR AFTER HOURS. UM, AND WE ESCORT THEM AND WE ESCORT THEM AROUND INSIDE THE BUILDING. WE ASK THAT THEY COME BETWEEN FOUR 30 AND FIVE TO MEET US ON SITE SO THAT WE CAN WALK THROUGH WHEN YOU GUYS ARE NOT THERE. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE EXPOSED TO ANYTHING. THEY DON'T NEED TO. RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A, A EXPECTING MOTHER IN THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, WELL THE CHEMICALS WERE SPRAYING INFORMATION. YES. LANDRY. YES, ABSOLUTELY. YES SIR. OKAY. GENERATOR. GENERATOR. YOU GOT PRICE INCREASE DUE TO ADDING THE FOREIGN. YES SIR. I DID, DID NOT BRING THAT TO THIS MEETING. BUT I DO HAVE, UH, ONE PRICING SO FAR. I'M WAITING ON THE SECOND. OKAY. AND THE THIRD, UM, I HAVE A PRICE OF FI I DON'T WANT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE JUSTICE CENTER? THE, THE JUSTICE CENTER GENERATOR IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? NO, IT SAYS RIGHT HERE A 40 SUBSTATION GENERATOR PM SERVICE. OH, THE PM SERVICE. I'M SORRY. IS THAT 9,150 A YEAR FOR PM SERVICE ON GENERATORS? YES. FOR THE GENERATORS. REALLY? DOWN THEN DOWN JUST IN CASE. WOW. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY BUTANE, THE GENERATORS ARE WEIRD. I'M SORRY. IS IT BUTANE THAT I MEAN, OR NATURAL GAS? PROPANE. UH, NATURAL GAS OUT THERE IS NATURAL GAS. AND THE, WELL, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT PM BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T EVER RUN IT, I MEAN YOU JUST, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS RUN IT ONE, RUN IT ONCE A MONTH YES. WITHOUT PAYING SOMEBODY TO COME DO THAT. YES. I MEAN THAT'S, THEY ONLY COME OUT QUARTERLY ON THE, UH, ON THE PMS FOR THE GENERATORS. BUT THAT TOTAL INCLUDES THE EOC GENERATORS, THE JUSTICE CENTER GENERATORS AS WELL. MULTIPLE. IT'S NOT JUST THAT ONE. NO SIR. TIME OUT GUYS. THE DESCRIPTION THERE IS JUST TO SHOW WHY IT INCREASED FROM LAST YEAR. OH. BECAUSE WE WERE, BECAUSE OF THE EXPANSION. IT'S BECAUSE OF, I'M SORRY. THE EXPANSION. THE, JUST THE SUBSTATION. A BETTER SENSE. GLAD MY QUESTION FOR THE GENERATORS, BUT STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO TODAY. IT'S IN MY BUDGET. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OVERSEES THE MAINTENANCE, OVERSEES THE RUNNING, OVERSEES THE CONTRACT THAT THEY COME OUT IN PM YEAH. UH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN OVERSEEING ALL THAT. ALL HE'S DOING IS SENDING ME THE BILL. IN MY MIND, IF YOU'RE OVERSEEING IT, YOU'RE WATCHING IT, THAT WOULD BE IN YOUR BUDGET. 'CAUSE I'M BASICALLY PAYING FOR STUFF. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OUTTA MY BUDGET. THAT'S JUST PART OF MAINTENANCE THOUGH. I I, THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT, SO, OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU WANTED THAT TO STAY IN MY BUDGET. THAT'S 'CAUSE IT'S ALL THE SAME. I'M NOT ACTUALLY OVERSEEING THOSE ANYMORE. BUT THE SHERIFF DOES HIS OWN MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? HE, UH, NO, THEY SUBCONTRACT ALL OUT, BUT THEY HIRED THE CONTRACTOR. THEY DON'T USE THE SAME ONE. OKAY. UM, I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY ARE SIGNING A CONTRACT TO USE ALL THE SAME CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT. YEAH. LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT GENERATORS FOR A MINUTE. OKAY. LET'S ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I'VE ASKED YOU TO CHECK IN BECAUSE IT, THE JUSTICE CENTER, WHEN ELECTRICITY'S OUT, EVERYBODY GOES HOME. 'CAUSE THAT ONE OVER THERE ONLY DOES EMERGENCY STUFF BIG ENOUGH TO RUN THE JUSTICE CENTER. SO YOU LOSE A DAY OR TWO. [01:55:01] IT'S YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL I'M ASKED MISSED BILL HIM CHECK IN WITH GREG OR WHOMEVER. MM-HMM. . WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO RUN THE JUSTICE CENTER? NOT DIESEL. THEY PUT A DIESEL IN THERE. THERE. SO, WELL THEY DO WHEN THEY'RE THAT BIG, THE THE YOU CAN RUN. THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE NATURAL GAS TOO. YEAH, BUT I MEAN LIKE THE JAIL OVER THERE. IT RUNS IT, BUT IT DOESN'T RUN EVERYTHING. AND LOOK HOW BIG THAT IS. MM-HMM. GENERATORS ARE GEARED JUST FOR EMERGENCY STUFF. IT'S GONNA TAKE ONE HECK OF IT. GENERATOR RUN THAT WHOLE BUILDING COMPUTER. IT PROBABLY TAKE ELECTRIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE IT TAKES 800 TAKE INTO IT TAKES AN 800 KILOWATT GENERATOR TO RUN THE WHOLE THING. AND WE HAVE A 250 KILOWATT GENERATOR. YEAH. BUT THAT, THAT RUNS ALL THE EMERGENCY LIGHTS. IT RUNS EMERGENCY LIGHTING, THE IDF OR THE MDF ROOMS. YEAH. UM, EMERGENCY LIGHTING AND ONE FREIGHT ELEVATOR. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL IT RUNS NOW. SO WE DON'T HAVE A GENERATOR OVER HERE AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE. SIR. WANNA PUT ONE IN OVER THERE? YES SIR. WE DON'T NEED TO BE SHUTTING DOWN 'CAUSE THERE'S MANY POWER ALLERGIES THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A LOT AT THE JUSTICE CENTER RIGHT NOW. UH, IT'S ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME. YEAH. IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE ON, IT'S CONSISTENTLY TWO TO THREE. UH, IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE ON A DIFFERENT, LIKE I THAT'S AN VERSUS TRINITY VALLEY. OH, WHAT IT IS AN ONCO THING. THEY WENT AND JERRY MATTERED AND MADE IT ALL PRECINCT FOUR. THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT THE BERMUDA, IT'S NOT THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE UP THERE. SO THE POWER LINE RUNS DOWN MY LITTLE TURKEY LIST. THE TRIANGLE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORK. SO THAT IS IN THE WORK. GO. YEAH, SIR. YES, SIR. SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THE WHOSE BUD YOU WANTED IN, BUT IT CAN, IT CAN STAY THERE. I'M FINE WITH THAT. AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. OKAY. UH, THE NEW GENERATOR. SO IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A GUY WHO CAN DO IT, DROPPING CABLES AND STUFF. MM-HMM. . ARE WE USING THEM YET OR USING THIS PERSON YET? WE HAVE STARTED USING HIM. HE INSTALLED ALL THE STUFF FOR THE NETWORK AT THE UM, SHOWGROUNDS. WE RAN IT THROUGH THE, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS RIGHT NOW PUTTING ANTENNA UP. SO YES, WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED USING THIS GENTLEMAN. SO WE'RE SAVING MONEY ALREADY? YES SIR. WE'RE ALSO YES SIR. WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. HE'S JUST NOT WHERE I NEED HIM. HE'S JUST, HE'S PERFORMING A JOB THAT HE WANTS. , YOU SEND NATHAN, HE'S WORKING FOR THE JOB. HE WANTS NATHAN, YOU SEND NATHAN A BUILDING, PAY YOU OUTTA HIS DEAL THEN. WELL WE HAVE. SO, AND ON SOME SITUATIONS WE ACTUALLY HAVE NEGOTIATED TO DO THAT BECAUSE ALL OF SINCE THE ROOFS WERE REPLACED AT THESE THREE BUILDINGS MM-HMM. . WE'RE HAVING TO RERUN THE CONDUIT AND HAD THOSE WIRES THAT ARE ON ALL OF THESE ROOFS AND IT AND US ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THAT DONE. ONE AND THEN TWO PAY FOR THAT TO BE SO FOR THE YEAR, FOR YEARS, JUST THE CABLE'S BEEN RAN ACROSS THE ROOF. OH YEAH. WE'RE COMING AND PUTTING IT IN CONDUIT, PUTTING IT IN AND GUIDES ON THE ROOF. SO IT'S NOT JUST SLIDING AROUND. ROLLING AROUND. YES. THEY'RE BUYING THE MATERIAL. WE'RE DOING THE INSTALLATION. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT KIND OF STUFF. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING AND WE'RE SAVING, WE KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW HE HAS MONEY IN HIS BUDGET AND I BROUGHT HIM IN SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHERE I'D LIKE TO PUT YOU. DO YOU WANNA WORK FOR THAT JOB? AND HE GOES, I'LL, I'LL PERFORM THE JOB. HOPEFULLY I GET IT. SO, OKAY. GOOD DEAL. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. ALRIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR NEXT ONE? I AM GOOD FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THOSE ARE ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE, SINCE THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT WE TALKED. SO I THINK I DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYTHING ELSE. NO. YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THAT THAT FROM WHAT I'VE KIND OF GATHERED IN, IN CONVERSATIONS AND STUFF THAT MM-HMM. , I THINK THIS COURT IS COMMITTED AND WE HAVE, WE SEE Y'ALL DOING A LOT OF IN-HOUSE STUFF AND SAVING THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY. SO I I THINK THERE'S A COMMITMENT FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, THE JANITORIAL PART, IT'S A NO BRAINER. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT. BUT THE OTHER PART, THE OTHER SLASH WITH THE PROJECTS, I THINK OVERALL SAVES US A LOT OF MONEY TO CONTRACTING OUT. YES. SO, AND THE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE LOAN SERVICE. SO I THINK THIS COURT IS COMMITTED FOR YOUR SUCCESS. YOU JUST GOT TO TAKE THE BALL AND, AND RUN BE SUCCESSFUL. YES, SIR. I'M, I'M, WE DEFINITELY, I AGREE WITH THAT. I MEAN, WE DID INCLUDE SOME PICTURES FOR YOU GUYS THAT ARE IN THE PAPERWORK THAT I GAVE YOU IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE REMODELS THAT WE'VE DONE. THE SHOW GROUNDS AND THINGS. AND THESE GUYS ARE INCREDIBLE. THEY REALLY ARE. AND THE TEAMWORK IS GREAT. WE ARE A LITTLE THIN, BUT WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO TRY. I THINK YOU'RE REAL BIN REAL RIGHT NOW. HUH? DID YOU PUT A BUCKET? THE BUCKET TRUCK IS IN HERE. THE BUCKET TRUCK'S IN HERE. THE, THE THE BUCKET TRUCK'S OVER THERE IN PRECINCT ONE YARD THAT, LET'S GO SSES. WE TOOK SOME PICTURES. SO IT GETTING THE AUCTION TO GET OUTTA YOUR WAY. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD THAT? I KNOW THAT TRACTOR, MY TRACTOR SIT THERE FOR A YEAR. LET'S GO DOWN THE FAR AFTER HOURS AND THERE'S ONE DOWN THERE THAT YOU BARS. I THOUGHT THEIRS. THAT'S MONTHLY. YOU TALKING ABOUT WE BORROWED IF WE JUST NEEDED AND THEY WERE NEED AND THEN IT BORROWS. I WAS LIKE, WE NEED ONE MORE BUCKET. TRUCKING. YEAH. WE, WE, WE, I FEEL LIKE WE BORROW IT ONCE A MONTH. WE COULD PROBABLY USE IT MORE. UM, WE JUST DON'T, LIKE WE SUBBED OUT THE LIGHTS ON THE JUVENILE JUST 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUCKET TRUCK AND THE TIME TO GO. YEAH. IT'S A LOT OF, AND THEN IT CALLS [02:00:01] US IF THEY'RE NOT USING IT. IT'S LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TWO IN THE CAMP. NO, THE FLAG POSTS NEED TO BE REPAIRED IN MY OFFICE. YOU GUYS NEED TO COME REPAIR THE FLAG POSTS. YEAH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO BUCKET TRUCK AGAIN. THERE'S A ROPES BUSTED AGAIN AT THE, AT THE UM, SOUTH CAMPUS. CAN'T ON GLORY NOT BE FLYING THE INSIDE. BRING HIM UP THE DATE ON THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT YOU, MIKE, JACK, MYSELF, AND THE, AND THE DEVELOPER BUILDER TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. SO JUDGE AND MIKE BROUGHT OVER SOME DEVELOPERS, SOME ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE NEW FACILITIES AND ELECTIONS BUILDING THAT WE KINDA BROUGHT TO, I THINK, I THINK I SHARED THE FOLDERS WITH ALL OF Y'ALL. MM-HMM. . UM, WE WENT OUT, WE MOVED IT FROM THE POOR FARM TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POOR FARM OVER BY THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER. RIGHT PAST THAT. UM, THE UTILITIES ARE A WHOLE LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. UM, AND I THINK, UH, ELECTIONS IS TRYING TO ACTUALLY HOLD ELECTIONS IN THERE INSTEAD OF THE LIBRARY. SO ACCESSIBILITY IS KIND OF CRUCIAL FOR THEM. UM, WHERE WE CLEANED IT OUT AND START WITH YEAH. OKAY. WHERE WE ORIGINALLY STARTED. YES. YEAH. YES. UP THERE IN FRONT OF THE POND. RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE TANK. YEP. YES SIR. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. UM, AND Y DRIVE BY, YOU'LL KIND OF SEE IT STAKED OUT AND WE CUT DOWN THE YARD SO YOU CAN KINDA SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. UM, WE'RE KIND OF WAITING ON THEM TO GET BACK WITH US ON SOME OF THE SHOULD BE BACK WITH US NEXT THURSDAY. YES. THURSDAY. YES SIR. PORT THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY. YES, SIR. TO TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH. THERE'S A SEWER LINE IN THERE TOO. THERE'S A SEWER LINE THERE. POWER THERE. MAIN WATER LINE. YES. SO EVERYTHING IS, I FOUND THAT WITH THIS EQUIPMENT. I SAID, WHAT'S THIS DOING OUT HERE? ? THAT'S A DEAD ONE. I DON'T EVEN THINK NOBODY EVEN KNEW IT WAS THERE. THERE'S A DEAD ONE RUNNING ACROSS IT. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, YEAH, THE OLD WAVE KNEW IT WAS THERE. YES. YES SIR. ANYWAY, SO THAT'S UNDERWAY. THAT IS ON. AND THEY'VE ASSURED US THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN HOUSE, ENGINEERING, GEOTECH. IT'S ALL THERE. THEY CAN DO IT ALL WITHIN INSIDE AND, AND HAVE IT LONG BEFORE WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ARPA MONEY. THEY'RE THINKING THAT, YEAH. WE CAN ALMOST BE STARTED ON THAT THING THIS YEAR IS HOW FAR OH YEAH. HOW FAST THEY THINK THEY CAN MOVE ON. SO YOU SAID TO BE DRIED IN BEFORE UHHUH BY DECEMBER. NOT EARLIER. THAT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S AMAZING. GET IT ROLLING. YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THAT AS WELL. YES. YES SIR. OKAY. THAT GUY SEEMED BEING REALLY NICE. YES. YES. HE WAS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE. VERY, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE. KNOWLEDGEABLE HIM FOR QUITE A WHILE. HE BROUGHT ALL THE PEOPLE WITH HIM THAT HE NEEDED. MM-HMM. TO ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERED. JACK WAS THERE AND EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE OKAY. SO YEAH. THINK THAT'D BE HALFWAY EXCITING. IT IS. GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY. YES. WE, UH, WE COULD USE A NEW, UH, BUILDING. SO I'M DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. DID YOU FIGURE IN FENCE? YES SIR. IT'S IN THERE. IT IT IS IT PARKING, FENCING AND EVERYTHING IS IN THERE. PARKING'S ITEMS. OKAY. YES SIR. WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE? YES SIR. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. I UM, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO OVER THE CHANGES AND IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, IF Y'ALL NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THE STUFF I'M REQUESTING, UH, THEY'LL CALL YOU. YOU CAN GO VISIT WITH THEM. I WILL VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF Y'ALL. I'LL TRY TO SET UP MAYBE SOMETHING NEXT WEEK OR OKAY. WEEK AFTER THAT. SOUND GOOD? GOOD. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU CASEY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. Y Y'ALL HAVE A, YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY. WELL, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO DO YOUR DUE. NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO TALK. DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE. YOU READY? YOU WANNA GET UP HERE AND TALK? GOING ONCE. GO IN TWICE. HONEY, ALL DAY LONG. I MAKE, I MAKE, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN [2. Adjourn Meeting] THIS MEETING. I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND FOR TERRY. MR. MOORE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.