Sep 24, 2024 Commissioners Court

DON'T.

OKAY.

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[Call to Order]

AND WE'RE HERE IN THE END.

NEXT, AS USUAL, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER BARBARA AND THEN COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS GONNA LEAD US IN OUR P IF YOU'LL STAND WITH ME, PLEASE PRAY WITH ME.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND I REALLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD RAIN THAT WE'VE HAD AND UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO COME.

UH, WANNA SAY A SPECIAL THANKS THIS MORNING FOR THIS WONDERFUL GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE WE HAVE HERE WITH US TODAY, THE FOUR H GROUP HERE IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

I WANNA THANK THEM FOR THE GREAT BREAKFAST THEY GAVE US AND THE HOPE THAT THEY GIVE ALL OF US AND, AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, THROUGH THEIR SCHOOLS AT THIS TIME, AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH THEM TO GUIDE THEM IN THAT DIRECTION.

UH, WE WANNA ASK YOU TO BE WITH US ALL TODAY AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THIS WEEK, UH, ESPECIALLY BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OF COURSE, IN OUR MILITARY.

AND IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

ALLEGIANCE, FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TWO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

JUSTICE FOR HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

Y'ALL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE THREE ITEMS THERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CORRECTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE ITEMS? DID YOU HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU.

THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? MM-HMM.

.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CARRIE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[3. Chuck Mohnkern: Discuss/Accept Treasurer's Monthly Report for August 2024.]

DISCUSSED.

ACCEPT THE TREASURE'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR AUGUST OF 2024.

MORNING CHUCK.

MORNING COMMISSIONERS JUDGE.

UH, WE ENDED THE, UH, MONTH OF AUGUST WITH 26,782,000 IN THE, UH, FUND.

10 OUR INTEREST EARNED AT AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, 1000 $127 EARNINGS ON OUR, UH, BALANCE THAT'S INVESTED IN TECH SPOOL IN TEXAS CLASS $528,373.

OUR TOTAL AMOUNT INVESTED IN TECH SPOOL 15,000,845 TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXAS CLASS 81,000,853.

OUR AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXT POOL INVESTMENTS FOR THE MONTH, 5.4434000000000005% AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXAS CLASS INVESTMENTS, 5.4314%.

SO THE, UH, INTEREST RATES ARE HOLDING RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH THE, UH, FED CUT BY A HALF PERCENT HERE THIS MONTH, IT'S, UH, STILL UP THERE AND WE'LL PROBABLY STAY IN THAT AREA FOR A LITTLE WHILE YET.

LET'S HOPE SO.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BEEN BENEFICIAL FOR US, RIGHT? IT HAS BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL.

WE'RE ON TARGET TO EARN A LITTLE BETTER THAN PROBABLY 5 MILLION AGAIN ON THE, UH, IDLE FUNDS INVESTMENT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S LOOKING GOOD.

YES.

THE, UH, TOTAL COUNTY FUNDS IN THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS AT THE END OF THE MONTH, 25,326,000.

THE, UH, VALUE OF THE COLLATERAL, UH, THAT AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK IS HOLDING 37,000,614.

SO THEY HAVE US COLLATERALIZED AT 149%.

SO THAT'S VERY GOOD.

YES, THAT'S REAL GOOD.

YES, IT IS.

MUCH BETTER THAN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

YES.

UH, PERCENTAGE, UH, INVESTED 79.41% OF OUR, UH, CASH AND THE PERCENTAGE, IT'S IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, 20.59%.

WE WROTE 465 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH OF AUGUST FOR A TOTAL OF $3,070,459.

ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK OVERALL, IT'S A FANTASTIC REPORT.

AS USUAL, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I THINK WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH MANAGING THE COUNTY'S MONEY.

WELL, THANKS.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CHUCK? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU, CHUCK.

THANK YOU.

MIGHT AS WELL GET UP.

HE'S GONNA CALL YOUR NAME.

WHAT? I'M JUST WAITING TO COME ON UP, CARRIE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS SIGNED BEFORE WE GET IT UP THERE.

WHERE IS THAT?

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WELL, GOOD MORNING.

[4. Carrie Sharp: Commissioner's Breakfast and Present the National 4-H Week Proclamation, October 6-12, 2024.]

AND WE'RE THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE.

I WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS, UH, FOUR H WEEK AND WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE.

WE'LL GIVE TO YOU.

AND ALL OF US HAVE SIGNED IT.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, ONCE AGAIN, HAVE EACH ONE OF 'EM COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOU DO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO OUR FOUR H TEEN AMBASSADORS THAT ARE PROVIDE BEHIND ME TODAY.

SOME OF 'EM ARE COUNTY COUNCIL, SOME ARE ON DISTRICT COUNCIL, SOME ARE ON STATE.

ALL OF THEM ARE YOUTH LEADERS.

SO WHERE I'M GONNA GO WITH THIS IS FOUR H TODAY AND FFA AND ALL OTHER YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS.

WE HAVE A COMMON GOAL.

COMMON GOAL IS WE ARE BUILDING A READY GENERATION FOR A WORLD OF CHANGE.

SO FOUR H EQUIPS YOUTH WITH SKILLS FOR THE FUTURE WHILE MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, BECOMING BEYOND READY.

SO THAT ENCOMPASSES OPPORTUNITIES.

SORRY, THAT'S A THING BETWEEN ME AND THE TEAM LEADERS.

OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPERIENCES, CONNECTIONS AND DISCOVERY.

SO SHAPING OUR YOUTH INTO THEIR TRUE AND EMPATHETIC SELVES.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY FOUR H TEAM COUNCIL.

I'M HANNAH HEWITT.

I AM THE PRESIDENT FOR COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE PRESIDENT FOR LIVESTOCK CLUB.

I'M ALSO A YOUTH DIRECTOR ON THE CHISHOLM TRAIL YOUTH DOPA ASSOCIATION.

I'M KATIE T I'M DISTRICT FOUR PRESIDENT, AS WELL AS SERVING ON STATE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS OUR COUNTY COUNCIL TREASURER.

AND I'M A TEXAS YOUTH LIVESTOCK AMBASSADOR.

MY NAME, MY NAME'S ELI TEER.

I AM THE DISTRICT VICE PRESIDENT.

I ALSO SERVE ON STATE COUNCIL, AND I'M CURRENTLY THE COUNTY COUNCIL SECRETARY.

UM, AND I DO PUBLIC SPEAKING.

THAT'S WHAT I DO.

.

MY NAME'S JESSE MAY PEARSON.

I AM Y'ALL'S VICE PRESIDENT FOR COUNTY COUNCIL PARLIAMENTARY FOR LIVESTOCK CLUB, AND I SHOW SHEEP, CATTLE, AND RABBITS.

MY NAME IS BRO THOMPSON.

I AM Y'ALL'S REPORTER FOR COUNTY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS A DIRECTOR ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FROM THE JUNIOR BEEF MASTER BREEZE ASSOCIATION.

MY NAME'S ROSS HEISER.

I SHOW HORSES AND THE RECREATION OFFICER ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

MY NAME'S LOGAN ROUX, I'M THE TREASURER FOR THE COUNTY LINERS AND I'M THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

I'M THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OFFICER.

YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS INTERESTING TO GET TO VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF Y'ALL DURING BREAKFAST THIS MORNING TO KNOW YOUR INTERESTS, YOUR CONCERNS, AND IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD THAT WE KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GET TO OUR STAGE OF LIFE, WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS WITH PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE COUNTY, ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, UH, AND EVERYTHING TO DO.

'CAUSE LIVESTOCK IN ANY AREA IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR LIVELIHOODS AND OUR WELLBEING.

AND WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? NO, I JUST, I JUST WANNA THANK ALL Y'ALL FOR BREAKFAST AND ALL OF Y'ALL DOING WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU START YOUNG WITH YOUR FOUNDATION.

IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU BUILD A HOUSE, YOU BUILD A GOOD FOUNDATION, YOU HAVE A GOOD HOME, YOU HAVE A GOOD FOUNDATION AS A CHILD, YOU HAVE A GOOD LIFE AHEAD.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON WHAT YOU DO.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

YEAH, MIKE, EVERYTHING.

NO, I'M JUST PROUD OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

TERRY, SAME THING.

I'M VERY PROUD OF Y'ALL AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL SO MUCH.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO MEET LEADERS.

MM-HMM? .

YES.

IT'S OKAY.

SO I HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION HERE AND WE HAVE ALL SIGNED IT.

WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU.

Y'ALL ALL COME UP AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

ALL YOU GUYS WILL GATHER AROUND PLEASE.

AND Y'ALL AND I GO DOWN.

WOULD IT BE BETTER HAND? OKAY.

I THINK I GET IT.

I WANNA GO DOWN AND HAND THIS TO 'EM.

YEAH, YOU GO OVER THERE BECAUSE YOU, THEY CAN'T SEE YOU BY THEY GOT, YEAH.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

THEY PICKING ON HIM.

UHHUH, HOW ABOUT WE HAVE YOU ALL, YOU GUYS MOVE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE LOGAN WITH THE MIC IN HIS FACE THERE WISE .

ALRIGHT.

WHO'S, WHO DO I PRESENT TO Y'ALL? SCOOT DOWN.

YOU GET RIGHT HERE.

PUT YOUR HAND ON THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

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YOU VERY MUCH.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.

THANK YOU.

BREAKFAST.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU BET.

THANKS.

THANK YOU DAUGHTER.

GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING, YOUR LEADERSHIP WITH OUR KIDS.

THANK Y'ALL.

THANK Y'ALL ALL.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE RELATED TO .

OKAY.

BACK TO SCHOOL.

.

THANK YOU.

JENNIFER CLARK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

BE HAVE A GREAT DAY.

OKAY.

DIDN'T Y'ALL REMEMBER WE WERE YOUNG AND ENERGETIC LIKE THAT? ? NO, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AGO.

OKAY,

[5. Shannon Roden Discuss/Consider/Approve the Release of Maintenance Bond for Westpoint Circle in Bella Tresa Place located on N. State Hwy 34 in Precinct 3.]

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

IT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.

YES, IT IS.

SO BEREA PLACE, UH, COMPLIED WITH THE 2006 REGULATIONS AND SECTION 8.2 OF THOSE REGS STATES AT ANY TIME ROADS ARE ACCEPTED BY THE COMMISSIONER.

A TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND IS REQUIRED BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.

THE BOND MAY BE RELEASED AT THE END OF THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, A MAINTENANCE BOND WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR WEST POINT CIRCLE ON PRE IN PRECINCT THREE.

ON MARCH 8TH, 2022, THE DEVELOPER'S WRITTEN REQUEST TO RELEASE THAT BOND IS SUBMITTED WITH THE AGENDA PACKET.

AND COMMISSIONER BARBERS CONFIRMED THAT THE ROAD IS IN GOOD CONDITION.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL TO RELEASE THAT BOND.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, MR. HAM, UH, WHO BUILT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THERE AND DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB, HE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR EVERYTHING WE ASK HIM TO DO ON THE ROADS AND THE DRAINAGE.

OKAY? AND SO I WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS.

OKAY? I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BARBER TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MONIQUE.

[6. Monique Hunter: Discuss/Consider/Approve renewal of Consulting Engineering Services Agreement for RFQ 19-17 for term of October 1, 2024, to September 30, 2025, to be paid out of line item 010-440340-001-176.]

AND THERE'S THAT NUMBER.

SO .

SO, UM, THE LINE ITEM WAS AMENDED INTO THE, UM, READING OF THE, UM, AGENDA ITEM.

UM, SO THAT THERE WAS NO CONFUSION.

THIS IS NOT A BOND THING OR OUT OF ANY, IT COMES OUT OF A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LINE ITEM.

SO, UM, FOR THIS PORTION, OKAY.

SO, UM, OF COURSE OUR CONTRACT IS AN ANNUAL ONE.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IT CAN, UM, RENEW WITHOUT GOING BACK OUT.

UM, I HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH JACK AT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT BEFORE HIS, UH, DEPARTURE.

UM, HE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, UM, NEXT YEAR, UH, IN MARCH, 2025 THAT WE GO OUT AND FORBID, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, BUT THIS WOULD JUST RENEW IT UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, WHICH WOULD THEN GIVE US TIME TO FIND A NEW ONE IF THE COURT DESIRED.

OKAY? SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL, UM, PROFESSIONAL AGREEMENT WAS THE FIRST ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOT, I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. MIKE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

LEMME GET THIS OVER HERE.

[7. Monique Hunter: Discuss/Consider/Approve renewal of Task Order 34; Engineering Assistance for Amendments to the Regulations.]

YES, MA'AM.

SO THIS TASK ORDER COVERS ALL OF THE JURISDICTION THAT THE COUNTY HAS AND TO PUT IT INTO OUR REGULATIONS.

SO WHENEVER WE FIND OR LEGISLATION CHANGES THINGS OR WE FIND MORE AUTHORITY FOR THE COUNTY, WE ASK THAT IT BE PUT INTO OUR REGULATIONS.

AND BECAUSE THOSE REGULATIONS ARE 254 PAGES, WE HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT GOES THROUGH EVERY BIT OF THAT AND PUTS IT INTO OUR REGS BEFORE I PRESENT IT TO COURT.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT TASK ORDER IS.

THE COUNTY HAS A LINE ITEM FOR THAT, THAT THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.

AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB FOR US.

EXACTLY, YES.

SO IN THIS, YES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY, UM, RESPONSIVE TO ME.

THEY'RE VERY, UM, UH, THEY'RE ON IT ORGANIZED.

TAYLOR BOSWELL IS WHO I DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND, UM, SHE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. CLARK MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE

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MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU MONIQUE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ONE, ONE MORE.

ONE MORE.

.

.

I GOT IT SIGNED FOR TODAY.

HOLD ON.

, GET TO MY FOLDER.

[8. Monique Hunter: Discuss/Consider/Approve the New Subdivision and Land Use Fees.]

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THE FEES SINCE 2022.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 32 PROJECTS, TWO CLERKS, AND A BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON.

AND SO, UM, WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY'S NOT COSTING OUR CITIZENS.

SO WE HAD TO GO AND DO A REVIEW FOR OUR FEES, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOVERING THOSE COSTS.

AND THEN, UM, SO I HAD TO AMEND OUR FEES TO MATCH.

UM, YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE IF YOU LOOK IN THE PACKET, THE ONES WITH THE YELLOW.

SO THOSE WERE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT SCOPE THAT ARE HANDLED OR WERE HANDLED BY OUR COUNTY ENGINEER POSITION.

THOSE ARE H AND H STUDIES FOR PROJECTS WHERE WATERS AND THEY WOULD BE REVIEWED.

WELL, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ONE CURRENTLY ON STAFF, OUR REGULATIONS DO SAY THAT THE DEVELOPER OR ANYONE DOING ANYTHING NEAR A COUNTY ROAD MUST PAY FOR THAT REVIEW.

SO I'VE PUT THOSE FEES INTO THESE SO THAT WE CAN RECOVER THOSE COSTS.

YES.

AND THAT IS SECTION 7.5 OF OUR REGS.

IT'S ALREADY IN THERE, BUT IT WAS NOT ON OUR FEE SHEET BECAUSE WE WERE DOING THAT IN HOUSE AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

SO I'M CORRECTING THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YELLOW AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE HANDLED BY ANOTHER JURISDICTION, BUT THEY DO AFFECT A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROAD.

YES.

AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE AND SEE WHERE THAT WATER'S GOING, SEE HOW THEY'RE TYING INTO THE COUNTY, WHAT IT'S GONNA DO FOR THE COUNTY ROAD.

AND SO UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE DONE IT IN-HOUSE BECAUSE WE HAD AN ENGINEER.

BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, OUR REGS SAID THEY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT REVIEW.

WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

YOU ARE AND OR IF YOU'RE GONNA TOUCH A COUNTY ROAD.

SO WE JUST NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR AND IT'S LABELED.

AND SO THAT'S THE ONES THAT ARE IN YELLOW.

WELL, OUR CITIZENS SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR WHAT THE ARE DOING.

NO, NO.

WE RECOVER ALL THOSE.

AND THAT, UH, COSTS, WE MAKE THEM PAY THING TO DO.

YES.

AND THEY PAY UPFRONT IF THAT DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T GO THROUGH.

WE'RE NOT BILL COLLECTORS.

YOU PAY UPFRONT AND THEN WE REVIEW IT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MONIQUE ON THIS? NO.

NO? DO NEED A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION.

MS. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MONIQUE.

THANK YOU.

GET ALL MY PAPERS.

MS.

[9. Lorena Dia/: Discuss/Consider/Awarding Bid 24-13 Inmate Phone System.]

NEXT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER A WARNING BID TWENTY FOUR THIRTEEN FOR INMATE PHONE SYSTEM.

MM-HMM, .

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

THE EVALUATION SHEETS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU SHOW THAT WE RECEIVED SIX PROPOSALS.

NC IC CORRECTIONAL SERVICES RECEIVED A HIGHEST SCORE OF 3 59, FOLLOWED BY VIAPATH TECHNOLOGY AT 3 39 IC SOLUTIONS AT 3 26.

SMART SOLUTIONS AT TWO 90, CONSOLIDATION TELECOM AT 2 71 AND CORRECT SOLUTIONS AT TWO 15, WHICH IS BASED ON THE EVALUATION SCORES.

I RECOMMEND AWARDING THE, THE CONTRACT TO NCIC BASED ON THEIR DEMONSTRATED QUALIFICATIONS.

SHERIFF COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND, UH, PURCHASING FOR DOING THAT.

WE, WE PUT THAT AT BID BACK OUT, WE'RE REQUIRED TO, AND IT'S THE SAME COMPANY THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AND GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE, SO, GREAT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ME.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

ANY MOTION TO APPROVE THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

ALL SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

BOTH SCARIOUS.

THANK YOU RENA.

APPRECIATE IT.

NUMBER

[10. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Accept the SAVNS Grant Contract 2025.]

THIS IS $4,000 A QUARTER, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT $4,000 A QUARTER REIMBURSEMENT GRANT FOR THE VICTIM NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.

YEAH, IT'S JUST A ROUTINE THING WE DO.

SO I MAKE THAT MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MS. HILL MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER

[11. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider matters regarding Kaufman County Fair Grounds.]

AGAIN, DISCUSS IT OR MATTERS REGARDING COFFMAN COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.

UH, RUSTY, IF Y'ALL ALL LIKE TO COME UP TO THE FRONT, PLEASE.

DO YOU HAVE THAT ROUGH DRAFT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU ? YEAH.

WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT? PACKET? YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THESE GUYS AND THEY'VE SENT SOME INFORMATION TO US AND QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS.

SO, UH, WE KIND OF START AT THE BEGINNING.

UH, RUSTY IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SHOW BOARD.

SO RUSTY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO START US OFF HERE.

YES.

WELCOME.

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THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORTS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO WITH THE COUNTY.

UH, KNOW Y'ALL'S JOB GETS TOUGH AT SOME TIMES.

IT'S EASY AT SOME TIMES, BUT THANK YOU.

UM, AS FAR AS PRESIDENT OF THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LEASED THE FACILITY, THE FAIRGROUNDS OUT THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

UM, I THINK WE RUN OUT OF A LEASE AT SOME POINT.

AND 2019, JULY OF 2019, WE SIGNED A NEW LEASE, WHICH WAS A FIVE YEAR LEASE.

SO OF COURSE THAT LEASE HAS EXPIRED.

OKAY.

WE FEEL THAT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE KIDS IN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.

THE EXPENSES OUT THERE ARE JUST EATING US ALIVE.

UH, UTILITY BILLS, INSURANCE, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS AND UPKEEP.

WE UNDERSTAND, WE KNOW THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE TO THE WOMEN'S BUILDING.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

VERY, VERY NICE.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THAT GREAT JOB GUYS.

REALLY, REALLY THANK YOU.

AND IT WILL MAKE THE FACILITY ATTRACT DIFFERENT CROWDS BECAUSE IT IS A NICE FACILITY, ALTHOUGH THERE'S STILL ISSUES.

UM, WE HAVE SOME AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES STILL GOING ON, BUT THAT'S I O'HARE.

UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNTY IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING CONTROL OF THE FACILITY BACK IN.

DOING SO.

WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE FUNDRAISERS, THIS AND THAT.

AND INSTEAD OF THOSE FUNDS GOING BACK TO UTILITIES AND UPKEEP REPAIRS AND SUCH, WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT MONEY BACK TO THE KIDS WHERE IT BELONGS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

I KNOW THERE'S, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT USES THE BUILDING.

I'M, I'M SURE SOME OF Y'ALL USE THE BUILDING AT SOME POINTS.

THERE'S AIR CONDITIONERS THAT ARE LEFT ON AND RUNNING AND UTILITY BILLS ARE NOT FUN.

AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN CONTROL THAT, BUT WE HONESTLY AND TRULY FEEL THAT WE ARE BETTER SERVED AS A BOARD TO RELINQUISH THAT TO WHERE WE CAN PUT ALL OF OUR FUNDS BACK TO THE KIDS.

SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT POINTS THAT WE HAVE.

I GUESS Y'ALL HAVE TO DECIDE IF Y'ALL ARE EVEN INTERESTED IN DOING THIS TO BEGIN WITH.

AND THEN THERE'S OTHER TOPICS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, SUCH AS THERE'S DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE BARN THAT HAVE BEEN NAMED AFTER A BOARD MEMBER THAT'S PASSED.

SOME OF THEM HAVE, SOME OF 'EM HAVEN'T, UH, FOR THEIR TIME AND SERVICE, WHATEVER HAPPENS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE REMAIN INTACT IF POSSIBLE.

THAT MEANT A LOT TO US.

IT MEANT A LOT TO THE SHOW BOARD.

IT MEANT A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST THOSE REMAIN INTACT.

UH, OTHER STUFF IS DETAILS AS FAR AS IF Y'ALL DO TAKE IT OVER, OKAY, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE COUNTY NEEDS A MONTH OR THE SHOW BOARD NEEDS A MONTH TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON THE ANNUAL COUNTY SHOW.

THAT WILL ALLOW US TIME TO GET IN THERE, GET EVERYTHING SET UP, HOLD THE SHOW, GET EVERYTHING TAKEN BACK DOWN, CLEANED UP, STORED, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR Y'ALL WANT TO GET INTO DETAILS OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

ULTIMATELY IT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION, BUT I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO DECIDE FIRST IF Y'ALL ARE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND ENTERTAIN THE TAKING OVER OF THE FACILITY OR NOT.

WELL, I THINK YOU, WE HAVE VISITED AND I SENT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS YOUR COPIES AND THEY HAVE A COPY OF THE CONTRACT, WHICH EXPIRED.

UH,

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THAT'S, THAT'S DOWN IN THE WEEDS HERE.

I GUESS EACH ONE OF US NEED TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS BEFORE WE GO ANY FARTHER.

WE'LL START DOWN HERE WITH NUMBER ONE.

WELL, I, IT YEAR PRECINCT.

UH, I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KIDS HAVE MADE USE IN IT OF THIS FACILITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

AND, AND IT'S A, A, A BIG THING FOR A LOT OF KIDS AND THEN THEY'RE GROWING UP AND STUFF THAT, UH, OR ADULTS NOW THAT WERE INVOLVED IN IT.

I, I THINK THAT THE SHOW BOARD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OVER THE YEARS, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE BARN AND THEN HAVE, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE, THE KIDS AND ALL THE SHOWS ARE DEALT WITH AND TAKEN CARE OF.

I MEAN, I THINK THEY HAVE A, A DEAL RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE FFAS AND STUFF WHERE YOU HAVE ONE FREE SHOW AND THEN ONE SHOW YOU PAY FOR FOR THEIR FUNDRAISERS.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT THE BIG DEAL THAT THAT'S REALLY, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE FACILITY.

THE FACILITY IN THE EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE HAS JUST STEADILY BEEN GOING DOWNHILL.

NOW THE FACILITY IS OLD, SO IT'S GONNA GO DOWNHILL.

AND WE'VE DONE SOME WORK OUT THERE AND WE'VE DONE SOME STUFF AND TRIED TO SWAP OUT SHOW BOARD DOING STUFF AND COUNTY DOING STUFF.

IT REALLY HADN'T WORKED VERY WELL.

SO I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE CONTROL OF IT AND WE LEASE IT OUT FOR ZERO TO THE SHOW BOARD FOR A MONTH, THEN THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT FOR A MONTH.

ALL THE FFA PROGRAMS HAVE ACCESS ON THE WEEKENDS THAT THEY NORMALLY HAVE SHOWS, YOU KNOW, BUT THE BIG DEAL, WHETHER IT'S THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT USING IT, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A A, A LUNCH THERE WITH MY CREW AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING IT UP.

AND THAT'S BEEN THE BIG DEAL.

AND WHENEVER YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, THEN YOU LOSE PRIDE IN IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE JUST, AND I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IS, IS HAVE SOMEONE TO OVERSEE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEANED UP.

AND THEN IF IT'S NOT CLEANED UP, WE TAKE THE DEPOSIT TO PAY THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP AND THEN THE MONEY THAT'S, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING THE EMPLOYEES, BUT WE TAKE THE MONEY AND PUT IT INTO A FUND FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONTINUED PUTTING MONEY INTO IT.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR TO PAINT IT, TO TRY TO SPRUCE IT UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING RIBBONS ON A PIG, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

NOT THAT THERE'S SOME PRETTY SHOW PIGS OUT THERE , BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT REALLY THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING AND YOU KNOW, UNTIL, I MEAN, WE HAD SOME OF THE BEST LAID PLANS, THE BIG PIPE RIBBON, EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT JUST WENT AWAY, YOU KNOW, PAID FOR ENGINEERING DRAWINGS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS INVESTED MONEY, IT JUST WENT AWAY.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO, BUT WE SPENT THE MONEY WHERE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

SO, UM, BUT UH, I, I JUST THINK THAT IF WE HAVE CONTROL OF IT, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDING, MAKE IT LOOK NICER.

IT REPRESENTS KAUFMAN COUNTY BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND JUST, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAN AS FAR AS FEES.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION.

I THINK THAT OUGHT TO BE DISCUSSED SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, RIGHT.

TO MAKE SURE.

'CAUSE I MEAN, YOU GET IT TOO LOW, LET THEM CLEAN IT UP, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE WE CAN'T BURN OUT FOR SOMETHING.

I THINK TODAY MEETING IS JUST OPEN DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

BUT I, I, I THINK IT'S, AND THEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS AFTER THIS, MAYBE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, IF ANYTHING, AND THEN, UH, WORK OUT REAL DETAILS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE, UH, IN HIS MEMO TO ME, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT US MAYBE TAKING OVER THE FIRST OF YEAR JANUARY.

SO ANYWAY, BUT THERE AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S OPEN TOO.

AND THAT WOULD JUST GIVE US TIME TO GET THROUGH SOME OF OUR SCHEDULING STUFF, WHICH THE COUNTY SHOW WON'T BE TILL THE END OF FEBRUARY.

BUT THAT'LL GIVE US TIME TO GET THROUGH SOME OF OUR SCHEDULING STUFF.

AND WE WANT TO HELP AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO GET IT CLEAN AND TRY TO HAND IT BACK TO Y'ALL IN A, THE BEST POSITION THAT WE CAN.

AND WE NEED A LITTLE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY USED SOME OF THE YEAH.

SOME OF THE LABOR THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.

YEAH.

TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF IT.

SKEE, YOU GOT ANY COMMENTS? NO, I JUST KNOW THAT IF, IF WE TAKE IT BACK THAT WE NEED A, WE NEED A MANAGER OF THE FACILITY.

IF THEY DON'T, IF, IF, IF YOU HAVE A FACILITY WITH NO MANAGER OR NOBODY LOOKING AFTER IT

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AND THERE'S YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THE SAME SHAPE YOU'RE IN.

WE'LL BE IN THE SAME SHAPE YOU'RE IN.

SIR, SIR.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT, IT WON'T, IT WON'T GAIN, IT WON'T BE ANY BETTER.

IT WON'T LOOK ANY BETTER.

IT WON'T, IT WON'T DO WELL.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO DO ESTABLISH UP HERE IS WHO AND HOW WOULD RUN IT AND, UH, WHAT WE DO AND HAVE A REGULAR BUDGET SET FOR IT AND EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAME DEAL.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST PART OF IT.

I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS OUR FACILITY, I GUESS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.

SO I MEAN, IF THEY, IF THEY WANNA GIVE IT BACK TO US, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT.

BUT, UH, UH, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE PROGRAM FOR IT.

THAT'S ALL.

AND, AND THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE CAN DO, AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO CASEY, BUT, UH, AIR CONDITIONING, WE CAN CONTROL THAT FROM A DISTANCE.

CORRECT.

WE CAN UNLOCK AND, AND LOCK THE BUILDING FROM A DISTANCE.

NO ONE HAS TO BE, THEIR KEYS WILL GO AWAY.

SO I KNOW UNTIL THEN, HOW MANY KEYS ARE OUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WORK ANYMORE.

A LOT A LOT OF PEOPLE USING IT, WALKING AWAY WITH IT DIRTY, LEAVING THE AC ON, LIGHTS ON AND SUCH THAT TERRY, UM, I'M NOT ABLE TO FIND THE EMAIL WHERE THE PACKET WAS SENT, BUT DO WE HAVE A NUMBER WHAT THESE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING ARE COSTING? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT'S THIS COSTING Y'ALL ON AN AVERAGE? ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AS FAR AS BUDGET WISE GOES, I MEAN, IS THIS, THIS ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, OUTRAGEOUS TO US.

IS IT? I MEAN IT'S, I REASONABLE.

I WOULDN'T THINK SO.

NO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN THING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, OF COURSE.

IS WHERE IT'S GONNA HIT US ON THE BUDGET AND WHAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH.

YEAH.

BUT I AGREE.

I MEAN, I LIKE YOUR, YOUR, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT KIDS.

I MEAN, AND THAT GROUP THAT WAS HERE THIS MORNING IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE'VE GOTTA DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THEM.

MM-HMM.

AND I AGREE WITH, WITH MIKE AND IT'S, I KNOW HOW CLOSE HE IS TO ALL THIS.

AND UH, YEAH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINITELY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT DOING THIS, TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS.

UM, THEY ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THAT TYPE THING.

, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE NUMBER FOUR.

YEAH.

THING.

NOW I'M, OF COURSE EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M PRO, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS FOUR HFSA AND THAT, I MEAN, NO QUESTION.

THAT WAS PART OF OUR LIVES.

I KNOW EMILY AND HER DAD, THEM THE, EVEN THE NAMES ON THE BARN, THEY DO MEAN STUFF FOR PEOPLE.

SO, NO, I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S WHAT THIS IS A DISCUSSION KIND OF HIT SOME POINTS.

I KNOW ONE THING WITH WHAT TERRY'S SAYING, WHAT I WAS THINKING IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE BUDGET WISE, IF WE TAKE OVER IN JANUARY BEING IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR OR STARTING AFTER THE FIRST QUARTER, GOING INTO THE SECOND QUARTER, THAT WE COULD SUSTAIN THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S GOOD FIRST AND THEN, UH, FEES ON IT.

UH, I KNOW AGAIN, YOU GOTTA PUT A DEPOSIT UP IT, THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND CLEAN IT UP.

SO I MEAN, LIKE IT'S, I THINK MIKE SAID WE'LL GO, THEY'LL JUST WALK AWAY.

LIKE, I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT $200 OR WHATEVER IT ISHMM .

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT NON-PRO, MAKING SURE THE BARN'S SUCCESSFUL, EVEN IF, IF WE TAKE IT BACK, WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN GOOD SHAPE AND RUNNING.

RIGHT.

SO, BUT THAT'S FINE.

LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALL DISCUSSION POINTS.

ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD POINTS TO MAKE AND SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK INTO AND THE, THE UTILITIES CAN BE MANAGED, LIKE HE SAID, IF YOU CAN CONTROL THE THERMOSTAT FROM A DISTANCE YEAH.

AND CONTROL WHO'S IN THERE AT A DISTANCE.

WELL YOU CAN MAKE SURE, OKAY, I KNOW THAT X PERSON HAS IT RENTED AND THEY LEFT, SO, OH, LET'S LOOK, WELL THEY DIDN'T TURN THE AIR CONDITIONER OFF, SO YEP.

WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OFF.

SO THAT WILL HELP.

AND WE KNOW IF MIKE GOES OUT THERE AND DIRTIES IT UP, WE KNOW WHO DID IT.

MM-HMM.

.

YES.

ACCOUNTABILITY.

THAT'S YES.

YEAH.

UH, OKAY.

I THINK IT, IT'S A, A POSITIVE DISCUSSION AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FEES THAT WE HAD, UH, THAT WOULD CAUSE PEOPLE TO CLEAN IT UP CORRECT.

AND NOT LEAVE THEIR DEPOSIT.

'CAUSE IF YOU MAKE IT STOUT ENOUGH, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA INSPECT IT.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO GO IN AND CLEAN UP AFTER 'EM, EVEN THEY DO CLEAN.

IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA STILL KEEP PART OF THAT DEPOSIT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE MADE WHOLE.

YES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE CAN'T.

YEAH.

IF YOU HAVE TO SPEND MAN HOURS OR, OR WHATEVER YEAH.

TO GET IT CLEANED, THEN THAT'S PART OF IT.

WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

IT HAVE TO BE PAID TOO.

SO THERE YOU GO.

UH, AND I, I, YOU, I, I THINK PART OF THE BUILDING NEEDS TO, THAT PART, LIKE MIKE SAID, IF WE COULD START ALL OVER AGAIN YES.

WOULD BE A GOAL AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE, BE REDESIGNED,

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KINDA LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WE ALL GO TO AND HAVE BEEN TO, TO SHOW.

YES.

YEP.

AND YOU WOULD BRING IN MONEY, UH, OTHER THAN JUST STOCK SHOWS.

MM-HMM.

LIKE INTERSTATE, COUNTY RV SHOWS.

I MEAN, JUST LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE IF WE HAVE A FACILITY.

CORRECT.

BUT WE GOTTA GET THERE FIRST.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO, OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S JUST A, IT IS A SIMPLE THING OF MANAGEMENT PERIOD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

AND, AND IF, IF WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MANAGE IT, THEN IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH Y'ALL USING IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT FOR THE KIDS.

THAT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS AND YOU, IT JUST SITS IN BAD SHAPE MORE THAN IT DOES IN GOOD SHAPE.

YEAH.

YES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE WELL LIKE HAVING A RENT HOUSE AND YEAH, YOU OWN IT, BUT YOU NEVER GO CHECK ON IT OR ANYTHING ELSE AND THEN YOU DON'T, 15 YEARS LATER YOU'LL LOOK AT IT'S LIKE HOLY THE CRAP.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, IT'LL COST ME A LOT OF MONEY TO GET ANOTHER, YOU CAN'T FORCE VOLUNTEERS.

LIKE WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS TOO.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SAYING.

IT'S HARD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT ALL THE TIME.

YEAH.

I MEAN PART THE VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO TAKE CARE OF IT ALL THE TIME.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT AND IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT.

WE JUST NEED TO INVEST IN.

I AGREE.

I JUST THINK WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND ONE THING I, AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT THERE 'CAUSE Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE MORE INPUT.

I, I'D REALLY LIKE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FACILITIES BEING THE CONTACT PERSON AND MONITORING AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET A STAFF MEMBER, BUT WE ALSO PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE EDUCATE WHOEVER WE HAVE ON OUR SIDE, KIND OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OR WHAT, HOW TO BE KIND OF SET UP OR WHERE IT'S USER FRIENDLY FOR THE PEOPLE COMING AND SETTING UP THE SHOWS INSTEAD OF RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL EVERY TIME.

I MEAN IF WE KIND OF HAVE IT HALFWAY THERE OR BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW HOW IT'S BEST MANAGED IN USE AND WE GOT NO PROBLEM HELPING Y'ALL WITH ANY EDUCATE, EDUCATE THE PERSON THAT WE CAN, ANY KIND OF INFORMATION OR, OR YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND SHOW SOMEBODY HOW THINGS ARE SET UP FOR, FOR THIS OR FOR THAT, GUYS, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.

NOW ONE THING THEY HAVE ASKED IS, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE BARN OUT BACK, IT'S PRETTY MUCH EMPTY IN IT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOT A FEW THINGS IN IT, BUT PRETTY MUCH YES.

BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT TO MAKE THEIR OFFICE AND STUFF OUT OF.

WE JUST NEED RUN ELECTRICITY OUT THERE TO IT.

YOU WANT WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING FOR COMING IN FOR A MONTH.

WELL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THAT FOR PERMANENT.

IF WE COULD HAVE THAT FOR, IF WE CAN, WE STILL USE ALL THOSE, UH, PANELS FOR THE, UH, SALE THAT YOU STORE SOMEWHERE.

REMEMBER YOU USED TO HAVE THE PICK RUNS AND STUFF.

HOW DO Y'ALL DO THAT NOW? EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH STAYS IN PLACE NOW.

OKAY.

WE DO HAVE SOME SURPLUS OUTBACK BY THAT, WHAT WE CALL THE OLD RABBIT BUILDING.

WE DO HAVE SOME SURPLUS OUT THERE.

AND THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE KIND OF THINKING WAS, OKAY, THE SHOW BOARD'S GONNA NEED SOME SORT OF PLACE TO BE ABLE TO STORE EXCESS PANELS SO WE CAN GET IT CLEANED UP AND GET THE STUFF INSIDE OUT OF THE WEATHER.

WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT WASN'T.

IF WE COULD UTILIZE THAT BUILDING, WHICH NOBODY EVER USES IT AS FAR AS WE KNOW, UM, WE COULD GET STUFF CLEANED UP AND GET STUFF INSIDE THERE OUT OF THE WEATHER AND ALSO HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO HAVE US AN OFFICE IN THERE.

OR IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO LEASE THE PROPERTY, MAYBE THEY COULD USE THE OFFICE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT'S DETAILS DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE AS A SHOW BOARD FOR OUR SECRETARY TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND BE ABLE TO WORK WITHOUT ANYBODY BOTHERING HER.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT UP IN THE BUILDING SINCE THE REMODEL NOW WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE MEETINGS DURING THE SHOW THAT THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND.

YOU CAN'T GET IN SOMEBODY'S CAR AND HAVE A MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT PAPERWORK SPREAD OUT EVERYWHERE.

SO WE NEED SOME SORT OF AN OFFICE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BIG, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BEAUTIFUL LIKE THIS OR LIKE THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, BUT WE JUST THOUGHT, HEY, IF WE COULD UTILIZE THAT BUILDING, WE COULD GET AN OFFICE IN THERE AND GET SOME STORAGE AND WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T IF, IF IF AT OUR EXPENSE, WELL, WELL IF TAR FFA COMES IN AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A PLACE TO GET

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YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S AGAIN FINE DETAILS BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF PORTABLE PANELS AND PA SYSTEM AND SCALES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT IT'S USED BY EVERYBODY.

IT IS USED BY EVERYBODY.

YEAH.

AS LONG AS EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS, THEN IT'S NOT JUST LOCKED UP.

YEAH.

THEN I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST STUFF THAT'S WHAT 10 YEARS OLD, 15 YEARS OLD JUST PILED UP IN THERE.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S, I THINK ALL THAT'LL COME BACK.

THAT'S WHY I SAID IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MANAGER OF SOME KIND AND, AND THE MANAGER WOULD DECIDE WHAT, WHAT WE COULD DO WITH EVERY PIECE ON THERE.

I MEAN, JUST TO BE TRUTHFUL BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WANT THE SAME THING THAT, THAT YOU DO.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT FROM A LEGAL POINT.

THAT'S WHAT I, WELL I WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE OF COURSE WE HAVE TO OPEN TO THE WHOLE COUNTY TO WHOEVER WANTS TO USE IT.

RIGHT.

SO I MEAN, I I THINK IT'S ALL FOR DISCUSSION.

I DON'T THINK I'M AGAINST ANYTHING.

I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF WE'RE GONNA RUN IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RUN IT.

MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT DISAGREEING THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A PLACE BUT SOMEBODY ELSE CAN'T HAVE ONE TOO.

RIGHT.

SO IF, IF AT THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE AND BUILD A COUPLE OF LITTLE SMALL BUILDINGS OR SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS A LITTLE STORAGE THING IN FOR THE, THE CHILDREN TO HAVE THEIR STUFF.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO THE PROBLEM THAT YOU WON'T ALWAYS BE ON THE SHOW BOARD AND WE'RE NOT ALWAYS DEALING WITH THE SAME PEOPLE AND WE'RE NOT ALWAYS DEALING WITH THE SAME, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? JUST LIKE I KNOW YOU WERE ON THE SHOW BOARD, YOU WERE ONLY ON THE SHOW BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT.

YEAH.