Oct 08, 2024 Commissioners Court

HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THIS MORNING? NO CLEANUPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.

ALRIGHT, DOES ANYONE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

I, ONE FORM.

THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I HAD, I HAD ONE.

ALRIGHT,

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE THREE ITEMS THERE EXCEPT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETINGS FOR OCTOBER THE FIRST APPROVING THE DEPORTATION OF REESE COLLIER AND JOEL CRAWFORD FOR THE, UH, COUNTY DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE AND APPROVING A DEPORTATION OF MARIA FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY TAX OFFICE.

I'M READY.

ANY COMMENTS? COMMENTS? NO.

I'M MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

HAVE A MOTION COMM.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE.

MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

[3. Sheriff Beavers: Present Kaufman County Sheriffs Office Financial Report for July and August 2024,]

NUMBER THREE, SHERIFF BEAVERS, WE GOT STANDING IN FOR US THIS MORNING.

HE'S GOING TO GIVE US THE SHERIFF'S FINANCIAL REPORT FOR JULY AND AUGUST OF 24.

MORNING GENTLEMEN.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE FINANCIAL REPORT CIVIL TOOK IN $3,290.

UH, MONEY ORDERS FOR BONDS WAS $3,645.

IMPOUND WAS $120.

CASH BONDS WE TOOK IN $13,750 SSI $205.

OTHER AGENCY BONDS, UH, RECEIVED WAS $17,649 AND 9 CENTS FOR A TOTAL OF SIX OR 3030 $8,659 AND 9 CENTS.

UH, THE SHERIFF WANTED ME TO POINT OUT THE INCIDENT REPORTS.

UH, WERE ON THE RISE, UH, THIS YEAR, 13.5% TO 6,560.

UH, IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND MORE REPORTS THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

UH, INCIDENTS, UH, INVESTIGATED BY CID IS UP 13% TO 3,423.

ARREST MADE IS UP 17% TO 1,134.

YEAR TO DATE, UH, INMATES BEING HELD FOR TDC IS UP 200% TO 294.

UH, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME WE WERE AT 94.

ADMISSIONS TO OUR JAIL, UH, IS UP 13.7%, OR CORRECTION, 24% TO 3,152.

UH, RELEASE FROM JAIL IS UP TO 24, 20 4%.

3057, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE CONTACTS IS UP 7% TO 638.

AND OUR COURSE HOURS HAVE INCREASED, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, THE MONEY THAT WE SAVE, UH, DOING IN-HOUSE TRAINING BY 72%.

UH, YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE SAW 1,553 HOURS, UH, THAT TOUCHED ABOUT 590 STUDENTS, WHICH IS INCREASED BY 67%.

OUR OPENINGS, DEPUTIES, WE HAVE FOUR POSITIONS, UH, DETENTION OFFICERS.

WE HAVE THREE COMMUNICATIONS.

WE HAVE TWO ARRESTS ARE UP BY 84% A YEAR TO DATE TO 24, UH, CASES FILED IS UP.

62% TO 130 CANINE ARREST ARE UP 116% TO 80 AGENCY ASSIST, OR UP 125% TO 97.

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UH, TRANSPORTATION.

UH, TRANSPORT DIVISION IS UP FOR PICKUPS IN TEXAS.

42% TO 403.

AND THAT CONCLUDES JULY.

ALL RIGHT.

AUGUST CIVIL, BROUGHT IN $1,500, UH, MONEY ORDERS RECEIVED $4,560.

UH, IMPOUND FEES, $175 CASH, $11,500 SSI $300.

UH, OTHER AGENCY BONDS AND FUNDS RECEIVED $15,142 AND 55 CENTS FOR A TOTAL OF $33,177 AND 55 CENTS.

UM, AGAIN, UH, INCIDENT REPORTS ARE UP 12% YEAR TO DATE TO 7,527.

UH, REPORTS FORWARDED TO CID FOR INVESTIGATION ARE UP 12% 3,928.

ARREST MADE ARE UP 16% TO 13,003, UH, INMATES BEING HELD IS UP 202% TO 339.

UH, ADMISSION TO THE JAIL IS UP 22% TO 3,612, UH, RELEASED FROM THE JAIL IS UP 15% OR CORRECTION UP 23% TO 3,542.

UH, COURSE HOURS ARE UP TO 69%, UP 69% TO 1661.

AND STUDENTS TAUGHT IS UP 75% TO 644.

UH, NARCOTICS ARREST ARE UP 81% TO 29, UH, CASES FILED.

AS FOR NARCOTICS IS UP 51% TO 138 K NINE DIVISION ARREST ARE UP 127% TO 84.

AGENCY ASSIST ARE UP 138% TO 112 FOR K NINE.

UH, TRANS TRANSPORT PICKS UP PICKUPS IN TEXAS ARE UP 44% TO 511.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, I, I LISTEN QUITE A BIT ON THE RADIO.

IT, IT'S AMAZING.

UH, THE NUMBER OF CALLS.

OBVIOUSLY WE SEE THE REPORT, BUT WHAT THE CALLS ARE, AND I'M SURPRISED THAT, UH, WE'RE, OUR OFFICERS ARE STAYING AS SAFE AS THEY ARE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.

THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, IT REALLY IS BETWEEN THEIR, THEIR DILIGENCE AND, UH, THEIR TRAINING.

WE, WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM REALLY SAFE.

AND WHEN THEY NEED BACKUP, THEY DO CALL AND THEY SHOW UP.

SO, OH, YES, THAT'S, WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERY AGENCY IN THE COUNTY.

WE ALL, WE ALL WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER AND, AND I'M THANKFUL IT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL SURVIVE.

THAT'S IT.

THAT WE'RE NOT DOWN, BUT JUST A FEW TO FILL ALL THE VACANCIES.

WE'RE DOING REALLY GOOD AT.

UH, BRINGING THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS UP THERE.

ONLY FOUR AND GETTING FOUR, FOUR VACANCIES NOW.

YEP.

SO, YEP.

AND, UH, WE, UH, WE JUST SELECTED THREE MORE TO GO TO THE POLICE ACADEMY, UH, FROM THE JAIL STAFF.

SO THAT'S REALLY HELPED TOO.

OUT THE JAIL STAFF.

WE DOESN'T THAT MAKE THE JAIL STAFF A LITTLE SHORT IT, IT DOES, BUT, UH, HAVE TO STAY THERE UNTIL YOU FILL THEIR POSITION.

THEY LIKE SEEING THAT THEIR, THEIR PEOPLE ARE GROWN AND, AND GETTING TO WHERE THEY WANT BE.

Y'ALL GENERATE REVENUE OF THOSE CLASSES OR DO Y'ALL JUST NO, THEY, THEY DON'T COME BY OUR ADVISORY BOARD.

AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE SHERIFF HAS STOOD UP HERE BEFORE AND SAID, AND I'LL REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE BEST DEPUTIES WE GET COME FROM THE JAIL STAFF.

THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, DEESCALATION TRAINING.

THEY, THEY KNOW, THEY'VE SEEN PEOPLE ON THE INSIDE.

THEY, THEY KNOW HOW TO TALK TO 'EM.

AND THAT GOES A LONG WAY.

OH YEAH.

A LONG, LONG WAY.

SO WE'RE THANKFUL, RESPECT FOR THE JAIL.

WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE.

AND, UH, ANYWAY, IT'S A GREAT REPORT.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT WHENEVER Y'ALL DO ALL THAT TRAINING AND STUFF.

DO Y'ALL OPEN UP Y'ALL'S CLASSES TO, UH, WHEN Y'ALL DO Y'ALL'S IN-HOUSE TRAINING, Y'ALL OPEN 'EM UP TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS? YES.

ALL OF OUR TRAINING IS OPEN TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS.

UM, AND LOCAL.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU COME FROM.

UH, WE ACTUALLY, IN OUR ALERT TRAINING, WE FOUND THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING ALL OVER FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO COME DOWN AND, AND ATTEND OUR ALERT TRAINING.

WE'RE, THE ALERT TRAINING HAS BEEN NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE PUTTING IT ON.

UH, AND WE'VE DONE IT PRETTY CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THIS YEAR.

UH, SO PEOPLE HAVE REALLY, REALLY BEEN COMING TO US.

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OUR CLASSES RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE TOTALLY FREE.

THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ANYWAY.

PLUS, YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE FACES IN THERE.

AND THAT, THAT HELPS US, BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY GOT SAY, THREE STUDENTS THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE PUT A, WE CANCEL THE CLASS, ANYBODY LESS THAN FIVE.

SO WE TAKE OUR NUMBERS PRETTY LOW TO PUT ON THE CLASS, BUT OTHERS OUTSIDE AGENCIES COME AND REALLY HELPS US OUT.

I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MAKES A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, MS. SHANNON, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

[4. Shannon Roden: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Final Plat of Duque Estates located on County Road 131A in Precinct 1.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND APPROVE THE FINAL PLEDGE FOR, UH, DUBUQUE.

IS I RIGHT? DEBU DUKE, DEBU WHATEVER.

DUKE IS WHAT I WOULD, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN CALLING IT.

THE STATE'S LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 1 31 A PRECINCT.

ONE.

MORNING.

SO DUKE ESTATES IS A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION AND IT IS 1.16 ACRES NET.

AND ALL OF THAT REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE PACKET.

AND WE JUST NEED YOUR APPROVAL TO GET THIS FINAL PLAT APPROVED.

THIS IS NEEDS COMMISSIONER, YOU MAKE THAT MOTION.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I'VE, I'VE SEEN THIS WHEN THEY WERE CLEANING IT OUT OUT THERE, BUT SURE IS NARROW.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S NARROW.

THEY MET ALL THE CRITERIA, SO IT MEETS EVERY REQUIREMENT.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT.

MR. HUNT MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. WAR MAKES SECOND.

MOTION CARRIE.

[5. Tommy Moore: Discuss/Consider/Approve entering into a temporary construction agreement for PID #15808 to clear brush from creek that is causing water to back up and wash out County Road 4030.]

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

DISCUSSED, CONSIDER AN APPROVED ENTERING TO A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT FOR PIP FOR NUMBER 1 5 8 0 8 TO CLEAR BRUSH FROM CREEK THAT IS CAUSING WATER BACK UP IN WASH OUT ON COUNTY ROAD 40 30.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE BECKER CHURCH INCIDENT WHERE THE CHURCH FLOODED.

YEP.

THERE'S A CROSS CULVERT GOING UNDER 40 30.

WE'VE ALREADY, UH, TOOK THAT FROM A 42 INCH CULVERT TO A 44.

WE ARE FILING A 4 0 6 FOR FEMA ON THAT TO TRY TO DO AN UPGRADE.

BUT IN THE CREEK BESIDE IT, THERE'S A BIG BRUSH PIPE, BIG TREE FELL DOWN, A LOT OF BRUSH AGAINST IT, AND IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 40 YARDS IN.

SO I KNOW, UH, WE'D LIKE TO CLEAN THAT OUT TO HELP RELIEVE THAT WATER FLOW.

SO I'M ASKING THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THIS CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT TO GO ON PROP PROPERTY JUST TO REMOVE THAT BRUSH PILE TO OPEN OUR WATER FLOW BACK UP FROM THE ROAD.

AND THEY, THE OWNERS HAS ALREADY SIGNED.

I HAVE A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT HERE WITH ME, SO, SO I'M ASKING MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT BOARD MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MAKE A SECOND.

NUMBER SIX, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS.

MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Commissioner Hunt: Discuss/Consider/Approve project agreement with the City of Post Oak Bend for County Road 277.]

CONSIDER APPROVE THE PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF POST OAK BEND FOR COUNTY ROAD 2 77.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKE SECOND.

UH, YES.

IT'S JUST, UH, ANOTHER PROJECT WE'RE DOING FOR THE CITY OF POST OAK BEND AND, UH, TO ADD ROCK AND TO A ROAD THAT NEEDS SOME WORK DONE ON IT.

SO, OKAY.

MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE IT.

HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

[7. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve the proposal from Treanor Inc. for the feasibility study for a Juvenile Detention Center.]

SEVEN IS MINE.

DISCUSS CENTER APPROVE PROPOSAL FROM TRINO INC.

FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.

AND I THINK YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS.

COME ON UP.

MORNING.

THIS IS JUST A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO, UH, DETERMINE THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF THE DETENTION CENTER THAT WE ARE GONNA NEED GOING FORTH.

AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE GONNA DO PROJECTIONS ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED PRETTY MUCH FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS OUT.

SO IT'S GONNA BE A BIG SCOPE OF, UH, OF A PROJECT.

THEY'RE GONNA INTERVIEW, UH, THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, COUNTY OFFICIALS, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE AND JUST GET A FEEL OF EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.

IT'S JUST NOT GONNA BE INTERVIEWING ME AND GETTING INFORMATION.

THEN THEY'RE GONNA, WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED DATA INFORMATION FOR THE LAST FIVE TO SIX YEARS TO THEM.

I, UH, SENT ON INFORMATION OVER THEM AS WELL.

THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY HAS USED, UH, THEY HAVE DESIGNED SEVERAL FACILITIES.

THEY ARE, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DESIGNING WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

THEY USED, UH, MIDLAND COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

WHEN, WHEN I MET WITH THEM, THEY, UM, HAD, UM,

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SEVERAL PLACES.

THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE DESIGNED IT MORE UP TO DATE.

THIS COMPANY HAS DONE MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS COMPANY THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT USING.

SO WHEN HE CAME IN, HE REALLY EXPLAINED EVERYTHING.

SO WE FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THIS COMPANY.

AND WHEN IT CAME, THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE AT THE MEETING.

WHEN HE CAME TO HEAR HIS PROPOSAL.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT WAS, UH, JUDGE ALLEN, UH, JUDGE RUSSELL, JUDGE WA JUST WILEY AND MYSELF AND THE STAFF.

AND WE SAT DOWN.

HE BROUGHT ALL THIS INFORMATION AND HE'S VERY, YOU KNOW, KNOWLEDGEABLE AND THEY'RE MORE ON THE CUTTING EDGE, UM, FOR DETENTION CENTERS.

LIKE I SAID, THEY, THROUGHOUT THE NATION, THEY, THEY DO A LOT OF WORK.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND THE COST, Y'ALL SAW THAT IN YOUR PACKAGE? IT COSTS US, I THINK 84.

$84,700.

AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY, THEY, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS EACH TASK, WHICH THEY OUTLINE IN THE CONTRACT EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING FOR EACH TASK.

AND THEN THEY BREAK DOWN THE PRICE FOR EACH TASK TASK.

AND, AND THE TOTAL PRICE IS $84,000.

HAVE EVERYTHING DONE.

WHAT WE WILL HAVE IS SORT OF LIKE A CONCEPT DESIGN AND EVERYTHING, FLOOR SPACE, WHAT WE NEED AND EVERYTHING.

ONCE EVERYTHING IS FINISHED, THEN THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS.

AND THEN, THEN WE'LL GO TO THE, TO THE GROUP THAT'S YES.

TOGETHER.

SO WE GO OUT AND SELL IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

EXACTLY.

WE NEVER WANT TO HAVE A COPY OF IT.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING, EXPLAINED.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING.

LAST TUESDAY WE HAD WHAT'S CALLED A, UH, JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER COMMITTEE.

AND IT'S MADE UP MAYBE OF 25 DIFFERENT CITIZENS IN THE COUNTY.

AND WHAT WE, THE GOAL IS TO EDUCATE THE COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A LARGE AND, AND SHARE WITH THEM ALL THE INFORMATION THEY RECEIVE FROM US SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED THIS, THE COST.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COVER ALL OUR BASES.

WE DON'T WANNA LEAVE ANYTHING HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC WHATSOEVER THEY NEED.

THAT'S CORRECT.

FULL DISCLOSURE ON EVERYTHING COST AND THE REASON BEHIND IT.

SO ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

LET ME THOUGH, CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT JUDGE REAL QUICK? SURE, SIR.

SO BASICALLY THE COST, JUST BREAK IT DOWN SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT'S OKAY.

GOING TO 85.

LOOK AT, WELL, YOU GOT, YOU GOT FOUR, FIVE TASKS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

WE HAVE THE ENGAGEMENT THAT'S HANDING ALL THE MEETINGS AND STUFF.

THEN THE DATA IS 20, THERE'S 12,000 MM-HMM.

, THE PROGRAM ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS 22,000 FUTURE FACILITY OPTIONS.

THAT'S 30.

THAT'S A BIG AMOUNT.

BUT THAT'S FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THAT'S SORT OF WAY I SEE IT.

JUDGMENT ABOUT WHAT WE DID THREE YEARS AGO IS ALMOST COMING UP WITH A DESIGN OR A CONCEPT TO WHAT IT'S GONNA POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE, THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

AND WE DID THAT WITH HOK.

UH, BUT THIS GROUP IS GONNA DO THE SAME THING AND COME UP WITH A DESIGN THEMSELVES.

SO BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THEM, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH THIS DESIGN.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE DATA, JUST LIKE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THEM WITH OUR GROWTH AS MUCH AS IT IS.

THEY CAN PROJECT OUT 20 YEARS YES.

PROJECTIONS AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WHAT WE MIGHT NEED.

THAT'S, AND THEN THE BUILDING WILL BE SO BUILT THAT IT CAN BE ADDED ONTO WITHOUT A HUGE EXPENSE.

WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL ALL OVER AGAIN.

EXACTLY.

WE WILL HAVE IT ALREADY BIG.

YOU CAN ADD ON FOR FUTURE EXPANSION WHEN WE NEED IT.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS DOING NOW.

THEY BUILT IT AT THIS SIZE.

'CAUSE AT THAT TIME, SEVERAL YEARS BACK, IT WAS APPROPRIATE.

SO NOW THEY MOVED THAT SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN THEY BEEN IT WAS 48.

48.

AND NOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY PUBLISHED, I THINK I WAS TALKING TO THESE LIKE 700, LIKE WE ARE YEAH, THEY'RE LIKE 700,000.

SO IT IS DOUBLE WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE LAST TIME THEY DID IT.

NOW THEY GOING TO, THEY GOING TO THEY'RE DOUBLE IT.

AND THEN WELL IT, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS IN THERE THAT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT ON COUNTY PROPERTY YES, SIR.

ADJACENT TO THE OTHER YEAH.

WITH, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS WE BUILT ON THAT SAME PROPERTY.

ONE, DO WE WANNA GO BACK AND PUT ANOTHER ONE THERE? I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY PROPERTY.

BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE, THE ISSUES DOWN BELOW WITH THE CLAY SOIL.

BUT, BUT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT I GUESS WHEN THE GEOTECHS DO THE, THE SOIL SAMPLES, OF COURSE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE IS LOW.

IF, IF YOU COME OVER TO MY OFFICE AND LOOK, IT'S PROBABLY 20 TO 30 FEET LOWER ELEVATION THAN WHERE WE ARE.

EVEN THE JAIL, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? YES, SIR.

SO YOU GOT TWO THINGS.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EITHER BUILD IT UP, IT'S A LOT OF SELECT FIELD,

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AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT, AND, AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT DO WE HIRE PROFESSIONALS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO DO, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT WE ALSO HIRED THEM FOR THE OTHER BUILDINGS ALSO.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND THEN IT'S, WE NEVER HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

SO I, YEAH, I DON'T, I MEAN, I, AND, AND THERE AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT THERE.

IT'S JUST LAND.

I JUST, I GUESS IN THIS PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING IT A GIVEN.

THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IT THERE AT THE PLACE WHERE WE'VE HAD ALL THIS BAD PROBLEMS. LOOK AT AN OPTION TO LOCATE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT ON, IT'S NOT LOCKED IN RIGHT.

TO BE THERE.

I MEAN, WELL, THEY SAY FOOL ME ONCE, PUT ME TWICE AND THEN DON'T DO IT THE THIRD TIME.

WELL, WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT 1, 2, 3, 4 TIMES.

SO WE CAN BLAME YOU FOR THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU LISTEN TO THE PROFESSIONALS.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE IN THE SAME VICINITY BECAUSE OF THE COURTS AND EVERYTHING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THE LOGISTICS AND ALL EVERYTHING.

IT, IT, IT'S, BUT, BUT THEY CAN, THEY CAN FIX THAT.

LOGISTIC IS ONE THING, BUT REALITY IS SOMETHING ELSE.

WHAT'S GONNA SAVE US DOWN THE ROAD, JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS EVER SINCE DAY ONE.

TO FIX ISSUES.

AND WE LEANED ON THE PROFESSIONALS.

I MEAN, WE DIDN'T GO IN THERE BLINDLY.

WE HAD PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE GEOTECH, EVERYBODY ELSE TELLING US THIS CAN BE DONE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, WE A BAD SOUL HERE.

I MEAN, ESPECIALLY OVER THERE'S YEAH.

REAL BAD.

NO DOUBT.

AND SO THERE MAY BE SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL ALSO CONSIDER.

AND, AND THE COURT WILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

JUST, I'D JUST LIKE THAT PART OF THE DEAL INSTEAD OF TAKING IT FOR GRANTED.

WE CAN JUST GET SOME SKY HOOKS.

WE CAN JUST HANG IT THERE AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

CLAY.

CLAY IS NOT FOUNDATION FRIENDLY.

NO, IT'S NOT.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF IT HERE AND IT'S DEEP.

SO WHAT YOUR PLEASURE, GENTLEMEN.

WELL, WE KNOW WE HAVE A BIG SUPPORT TO GET THIS GOING.

UH, WE KNOW THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.

IT'S GONNA BE PAINFUL.

UH, WE KNOW THAT.

SO, BUT THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

EVEN IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

DID WAS THESE, WAS THESE ITEMS COMPLETED ALREADY? RIGHT.

SO IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.

UH, I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GIVE US THEIR CONCERN ON IT.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

SO, YEAH.

UH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE GOING FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THE DETAILS THAT WE NEED.

SO, OKAY.

DO HAVE A SECOND? I GUESS I'LL SECOND, I GUESS .

SURE.

I ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOORE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ROLL.

DID I HEAR ANY? MAY YOU SAY AYE.

YOU MAY HAVE MY MIC ON.

SEE ALL THANK I DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL ME.

AND WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOUR, YOUR LAKE OR YOUR LAKE HOUSE.

EIGHT, DISCUSS APPROVED SETTING AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CREATION OF THE KAUFMAN LAKE WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

NUMBER

[8. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve order setting public hearing for the creation of the Kaufman Lakes Water Control and Improvement District.]

ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? I AM.

IF YOU WILL COME FAR.

GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHO YOU REPRESENT, PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I'M ROSS MARTIN WITH WINSTEAD PC.

UH, ADDRESS IS 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD IN DALLAS.

UH, I'M THE ATTORNEY THAT'S REPRESENTING THE PROPOSED WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

UH, WE FILED A PETITION, UH, WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, TO CREATE THE WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OVER 531 ACRES THAT'S OWNED BY WIND POINT INVESTMENTS.

UM, AND I THINK THE, THE KEY TO THIS PROPERTY AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE PROPOSING A WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS THERE'S A DAM LOCATED ON THIS LAKE PROPERTY, UH, THAT NEEDS SOME REHABILITATION.

AND OUR PLAN IS TO CREATE THE WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITH THE AUTHORITY TO WORK ON THIS DAM AND THEN, UH, APPLY TO THE STATE FOR GRANTS TO FIX THE DAM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE, UH, APPLYING FOR THE WCID.

UH, AND GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW WHEN, UH, I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT BOUGHT IT, CAME TO MY OFFICE, I WAS ASKING HIM HIS PURPOSE

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OF DOING THIS.

MM-HMM.

WHERE HE IS GONNA GET THE WATER FROM TO OPERATE THIS.

UH, AND HE SAID IT HAD ANOTHER ONE SIMILAR TO THIS ALREADY IN OPERATION.

IS THAT ONE STILL IN OPERATION? ANOTHER, A DISTRICT SIMILAR TO THIS OR NO, ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE HE'S PLANNING ON DOING HERE.

HE HAS A PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS ONE, UH, THAT IS NORTH.

I BELIEVE IT'S IN DENTON COUNTY.

UH, THAT ONE DOESN'T HAVE A DISTRICT, SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT WORKING ON THAT ONE OR FAMILIAR WITH IT.

WELL, I'VE TRIED TO PULL IT UP AND THE WEBSITE'S DOWN, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS STILL IN OPERATION OR WHAT HAPPENED TO IT, OR, I THINK IT'S STILL IN OPERATION BECAUSE I, UM, I SAW AN, UH, PROMOTIONAL EMAIL FROM IT THE OTHER DAY.

IT'S ON MY LIST.

SO, UH, THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL? NO.

OTHER THAN HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT.

UH, I TOLD HIM WE WOULD NOT OFFER ANY ABATEMENTS AND HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT.

AND SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? YOU GUYS, THE PETITION, YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY FILED THE ACTUAL PETITION WITH THE COUNTY CLERK? YES, WE FILED THE PETITION WITH THE COUNTY CLERK.

I SAID DIDN'T HAVE IT.

SO, UM, AND THEN TODAY'S ACTION CALLS THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM WORKING WITH, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY AND KAREN, UH, WE WOULD SET FOR NOVEMBER THE 12TH, UH, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN IF YOU GUYS DECIDE, THEN CREATE THE DISTRICT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO YOU, THE, THE DISTRICT, YOU'RE WANTING TO CREATED THIS 'CAUSE I MEAN, I MET WITH Y'ALL OFF NRCS MM-HMM.

IS JUST TO GET THE DAM REPAIRED, CORRECT.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE SOLE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF DOING THIS.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DISTRICT, YOU STILL HAVE TO GET YOUR WATER FROM SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT'S A WATER DISTRICT.

IT IS.

I MEAN, IT'S A WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO DEAL WITH THE DAM ISSUE.

UH, IF WE NEED TO USE IT FOR WATER SERVICE, WE CAN, UH, BUT WE'D HAVE TO GET THE WATER FROM ANOTHER PROVIDER.

SO BASICALLY YOU COULD LIKE, WOULD GET WITH COLLEGE MOUND OR THE CITY OF KAUFMAN TO GET YOUR WATER FROM FARTHEST PROJECT.

BUT, SO I THINK I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING THIS NOT A FLOOD CONTROL LAKE.

IS IT? LIKE, IS IT ONE OF THE CORE ENGINEERS? I WANT TO SAY THE KAUFMAN CITY OF, WERE ORIGINALLY PROBABLY CONSERVATION LAKES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NOW.

MINE JUST BEEN THE CONSERVATION LAKE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE OWEN, IF IT'S ONE OF HIS PROJECTS AND WHAT THEY'RE LIMBED TO OR WHAT THEY CAN DO, THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF IT'S ONE OF THE FLOOD CONTROL LAKES.

IT'S LIKE SOME OF THESE, THESE ADDITIONS OVER ON CRANDALL, WHAT THE DEVELOPERS GOT IT.

THEY, THEY HAVE REPAIRED THE DAMS AND THEY'VE DUG THEM OUT.

SO THEY'RE DEEPER IN HOLE MORE WATER.

SO LET ME, I I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.

SURE.

SO IT, IT SAYS ON UNDER 18 OR 17 AND 18, UH, DESCRIPTION OF THE DISTRICT PURPOSE AND NATURE.

SO DESCRIBED THE, UH, WHAT THAT IS EXCEPT FOR THE PURPOSE OF IT.

SO YOU'RE TELLING US TODAY THAT THE PURPOSE IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR DAM THIS IS NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES? NO, THE, THE, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS FOR THE DAM.

I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER PURPOSES WITH THE WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.

I MEAN, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS GET THIS DAMN TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE PETITION RIGHT NOW.

SO TODAY Y'ALL ARE SAYING WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS JUST TO FIX A DAM, NOT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE LAW.

OTHER WORDS, ONCE YOU PASS THIS, ONCE YOU HAVE HEARINGS ON IT YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S LEGAL FOR THEM TO SELL WATER OR DO WHATEVER THEIR PURPOSE IS.

WE'LL COVER THAT AFTER THE HEARING THEN.

I MEAN, IT HAS A WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DOES COME WITH THE ABILITY TO DO THE DAMS AS WELL AS WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'D BE A PROCESS.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TCEQ TO PUT IN SEWER.

UNLESS YOU TIED INTO THE CITY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY HAS ANY SEWER OUT THERE OR NOT.

PROBABLY NOT UNLESS THEY MADE A SEWER PLANT.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

THEY SAID GO THROUGH TCQ TO GET THAT DONE.

ALL THE DISTRICTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE SUPERVISION OF TCQ.

SO ANY, ANY UTILITIES WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE DISTRICT.

THE DISTRICT PROVIDES WATER AND SEWER, UH, PROVIDES A DRAINAGE THAT WOULD ALL BE, UH, UNDER THE PURVIEW OF TCQ AND REGULATED BY THEM.

AND IF YOU DID GET WATER FROM EITHER THE CITY OR COLLEGE MA, THEN IT HAVE THEIR OWN WATER TREATMENT PLANT ON SITE FROM THE LAKE.

UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC PLANT OR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY FEEDING THAT WATER AND THEY GET THE EXCESS WATER TO RUN THE SEWER PLANT.

BUT THAT'S NOT NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES.

YOU CAN GO IN 'EM ALL DAY LONG.

SO THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS JUST TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

WELL, AND THEN, AND PRETTY MUCH THE WAY THE LAW STATES, WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND GRANT THIS HEARING.

MM-HMM.

THE WAY EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT.

THE SHALL AS LONG AS HE PRESENTED A PETITION, WE CAN.

SO I NEED, IF HE FILED IT WITH THE COURT, HE FILED YEAH, YOU DO.

THE PETITION'S BEEN FILED AND WE CAN

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HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL HAVE THE OWNER AND THE ENGINEER HERE AS WELL.

KIND OF THE, THE WHOLE TEAM TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND MR. MARTIN, WILL Y'ALL TAKE CARE OF PREPARING THE NOTICES THAT NEED TO BE FILED AND YES, WE'LL HANDLE ALL THE NOTICING.

NOW IS THAT, I NOTICE UNDER 18 NOTES SAYS THE SHERIFF WILL POST IT AT THE COURT.

SO YEAH.

IS THAT NEGATE HIS RESPONSIBILITY BY HIM SAYING HE'S GONNA POST EVERYTHING? OR IS THE SHERIFF STILL GOING TO POST? HE'S GOING TO PREPARE THEM, THEN THE SHERIFF WILL HAVE TO POST.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

MY OFFICE WILL COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THE COUNTY, UH, POSTING AND STUFF.

SO, AND, AND IT, I GUESS I KNOW PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU KNOW, NOBODY COMES COURTHOUSE AND IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE READ ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL KID, PARENTS, YOU AND STUFF, BUT, MM-HMM.

SO IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY WE CAN GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC? PUT IT ON TIKTOK AND EVERYBODY WOULD READ IT? ? YEAH.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT WANTING EM TO BE FUNNY ABOUT IT, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE TRUTH.

I YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RE I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST MANDATED BY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS BY THE STATUTE.

BUT CAN WE DO MORE AS A COUNTY, GET ON THE COUNTY PAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO LET PEOPLE YOU PUT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, YOU PUT IT FACEBOOK SOMETHING, PUT IT IN PAPER.

SO, SO, SO MORE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE CAN KNOW ABOUT THIS? WELL, THEY ALL HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED.

THERE'S SO MANY FEET OF IT.

NO, I DIDN'T READ THAT.

I DIDN'T READ THAT IN THE STATUTE.

NOPE.

NO.

THE, THE NOTICE IS PUBLISHED.

IT'S, AND IT'S POSTED AT THE COUNTY AND IT'S POSTED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT ITSELF.

AND HOW MANY SIGNATURES ARE ON THE CURRENT PETITION? UH, 'CAUSE I NOTICED IN THERE IT SAYS THE PETITION COULD BE ALL THE LANDOWNERS THAT THIS WOULD AFFECT.

OR IS IT JUST ONE LANDOWNER TO OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? THERE'S ONLY ONE LANDOWNER.

SO ONE SIGNATURE ON THE PETITION.

AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN COMPLAIN, ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE TO TOUCH THE PROPERTY.

THE TECQ .

THAT'S KIND OF A FUNNY RULE.

I MEAN, THERE'S ONE OWNER WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT, SO THERE'S ONLY ONE OWNER THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ANY, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL EFFECT OF THE DISTRICT.

I NEED A MOTION THEN THOSE PRECINCT, THEN WE .

NO, I MEAN THE STATUTE SAYS WE SHALL, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE HEARING.

HAVE A I'LL SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HUNT AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

BE HAVE A GOOD DAY.

WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON .

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, AUDITOR, HOLD ON.

LEMME GET MY PAGE TURNED HERE.

NO AUDITOR

[9. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

DISCUSSED.

LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS AND CORRECTIONS.

THESE WERE EMAILED OUT PREVIOUSLY.

WE HAVE A FEW, UM, FOR SOME GRANT REVENUE IN FY 24.

AND THEN JUST A FEW CLEANUP ITEMS THAT WERE ADDRESSED FOR FY 25 AND WE ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DON? I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

FAYE.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

AGAIN CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION AND CARRIES MS. AUDITOR ONCE

[10. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

SO THIS WEEK WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, APPROVAL FOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES TOTALING 1,924,500 AND $581 AND 11 CENTS.

UM, AND THAT IS MADE UP MOST OF ROAD MATERIALS AND SOFTWARE MATERIALS AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SO MAKES A SECOND.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER 11 IS

[11. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and entering executive session pursuant to Government Code 551.087 to discuss matters regarding the Economic Development Negotiations Project Olaf.]

MINE.

DISCUSS CONSIDERED REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO CODE GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0.087 TO DISCUSS MATTERS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PROJECT OLAF, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND MR. TO MAKE A SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

AND THE TIME IS 9 34.

[12. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into the regular meeting.]

OKAY, WE'RE BACK.

UH, NOW I NEED A MOTION TO COME OUTTA EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ENTER BACK INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING TIME.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION IS 10 26.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, CI.