Feb 04, 2025 Commissioners Court

THERE'S SOME FUNDRAISERS COMING UP.

YOU KNOW, PARENTS AND FRIENDS AT PACIFIC.

IT'S EVERY SATURDAY THROUGH THE MONTH, THERE'S SOMETHING COMING UP TO GET YOU LOOK AT THAT.

LOOK IN THE HAROLD DATE.

THEY POST ALL OF THAT FOR US.

CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, A, EXCEPT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING FOR JANUARY THE 28TH, AND B IS APPROVING THE DEPORTATION OF AMBER WEST FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S OFFICE.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, I MOTION DON'T HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER LAMB MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

CONSIDER DISCUSS THE REPORT, THE YEARLY OPERATION COST FOR A PROPOSED 32 BED JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, MR. MOORE, WE'RE GONNA INTERRUPT YOU THERE.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE NUMBER SIX AND NUMBER 17 UP SINCE THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THESE FOLKS ARE IN HERE FOR.

NUMBER SIX,

[6. Andy Pitts: Discuss/Consider/Report the yearly operational cost for a proposed 32 bed juvenile detention facility.]

OKAY, ANDY, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND THEN I'LL GET INTO THE DOLLARS.

SURE.

THANK YOU ALL.

SO I'M NOT ABLE TO BE IN PERSON THERE.

I HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING FOR A JUVENILE FACILITY UP IN WISCONSIN, BUT I'M PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE VIRTUALLY WITH YOU.

SO I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE TOGETHER.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, TREMENDOUS AND HIS TEAM ON TIDYING UP THE PROGRAM FOR THE OVERALL FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A 32 BED JUVENILE FACILITY, ALONG WITH ALL THE SUPPORT SPACES, RECREATION, EDUCATION OFFICES, AND STILL BE WITHIN THE $40 MILLION PROJECT BUDGET FOR 2026 CONSTRUCTION.

SO WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS A RESULT OF THAT PROGRAM REDUCTION.

SO WE'VE LOOKED STILL MAINTAINING FOUR EIGHT BED HOUSING UNITS FOR THE 32 BEDS.

SO HAVE BOTH SECURE, UH, EDUCATION SPACE FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE IN DETENTION, AND ALSO HAVE A JUVENILE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT IS DOWN ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THE SCREEN.

THE UPPER PART IS THE INTAKE MEDICAL BUILDING SUPPORT, AND IN THE MIDDLE WE HAVE AN INDOOR RECREATION AREA AND THEN AN OUTDOOR RECREATION AREA TO COMPLY WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR TJJD.

SO WITH THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO ALSO UPDATE THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM.

SO, WHICH YOU SAW ON THE SCREEN WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS, UH, 34,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF.

WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED FOR SUBSURFACE FOUNDATION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AND DETERMINED AS WE GET INTO OUR GEOTECH, BUT WE HAVE AN ALLOWANCE FOR THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE THE AREAS FOR GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER CONTRACTORS, SO FORTH.

THEN I ALSO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE J-J-A-E-P, THE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE 34,000 SQUARE FEET IS MULTIPLIED BY, UM, EACH OF THOSE.

AND THEN THE JJAP IS A LESS DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT, RECOGNIZING IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE AS ROBUST AS THE DETENTION AREA.

SO THAT ALONG WITH A 5% CONTINGENCY ON TOP OF IT COMES UP TO 32, JUST OVER $32 MILLION.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT PROJECTS SOFT COST TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, INCLUDING A OWNER'S CONTINGENCY OF 5%, INCLUDING CON UH, THE CONTINGENCY COSTS FOR FURNITURE, FIXTURE AND EQUIPMENT.

THAT HAS ANOTHER ABOUT $5.28 MILLION ON IT.

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THAT COMES UP IN TODAY'S DOLLARS ABOUT 37.5.

AND IF WE ESCALATE THAT TO 2026, WE ARE ABOUT 39,340,000.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM ALONG WITH A BUNCH OF CONTINGENCIES.

AGAIN, THESE ARE CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS GOING INTO WHAT THE COST COULD BE.

WE COULD ALWAYS MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, ALL THESE AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN ILLUSTRATE THAT FOR A 32 BED FACILITY, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT UNDER THAT $40 MILLION PROJECT BUDGET.

SO I'LL STOP THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN JUDGE IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW UP.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS? WE DISCUSSED EARLIER IN A MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE WAS HERE ABOUT THE COST, UH, NOT REALIZING THAT THE WALLS ARE HAY OUT BLOCK, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE FILLED WITH REBAR, STEEL, AND CONCRETE, AND THE WINDOWS HAVE TO BE UPGRADED, UH, TO GEL STANDARDS, UH, LOCKS.

SHERIFF, YOU'RE HAVING TO REPLACE SOME LOCKS ON DOORS, IS THAT RIGHT? ARE WE WHAT? REPLACING SOME LOCKS ON SOME OF THE JAIL DOORS? LOCKS HAVEN'T BEEN A BIG, A BIG ISSUE.

IT'S ALL ELECTRONICS AND WE'RE FIXING THAT TO DEAL WITH.

AND THAT'S EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS, AS I TOLD YOU LAST, LIKE A MILLION BUCKS.

SO, BUT WE IT'S BEEN SINCE OH FOUR.

SO ANYWAY, THE COST FOR THESE FACILITIES ARE FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUST A REGULAR COMMERCIAL BUILDING, LIKE WHEN WE BUILT THE JUSTICE CENTER OR THE ANNEX OR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.

SO, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON GETTING SOME OF THESE NUMBERS DOWN, ESPECIALLY THE PROFESSIONAL FEES.

AND THEN THE, THE, UH, FOUNDATION, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL WE DO GET THE GEOTECH BACK.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND THAT EXTRA MONEY, BUT THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED.

WE WILL NOT EXCEED THE 40 MILLION BY ANY MEANS.

WE CAN'T, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SETTING THE BOND FOR.

UH, THE COST ONCE IT'S FULLY OPERATIONAL SHOULD BE, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE $3 MILLION A YEAR AREA.

HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT.

BUT AS WE GROW, WE WON'T ADD ALL THE EMPLOYEES AT THE BEGINNING, OBVIOUSLY.

UH, BUT WILL, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE THE ADDITIONAL PODS CAN BE ADDED TO THIS.

IT'S BUILT THAT WAY WHERE IT CAN BE EXTENDED.

THE KITCHEN AREA, THE COMMON AREAS ARE ALL, UH, DESIGNED WHERE THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO THERE WON'T BE ADDITIONAL COST ONCE WE GET IN THERE BY ADDING ONTO THE KITCHEN AND STUFF.

SO, UH, OKAY.

ANDY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR TRI DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY AT THIS POINT ABOUT THE FACILITY? NO, I DON'T.

SO, UH, ANDY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, SIR.

I THINK YOU COVERED IT WELL.

SO THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[17. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve an order calling for a bond election in Kaufman County for the new construction of the Juvenile Detention Center and resolution of related matters.]

TO NUMBER 17.

AND I'LL READ THAT THESE KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE AN ORDER CALLING FOR BOND ELECTION IN KAMAN COUNTY FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER AND RESOLUTION OF RELATED MATTERS.

SO AT THIS TIME, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE, IS TO THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT.

BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR JUDGES AND ANYONE THAT WE'VE TALKED TO EARLIER ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO WHOEVER WANTS TO COME FIRST, COME ON AND SEE JUDGE, UH, RUSSELL, HE HANDLES THE, UH, THE COURT FOR ALL THE JUVENILES.

FOR MY COURT TO BE ABLE TO USE, UM, WHEN WE'RE IMPLEMENTING OUR SOLUTIONS FOR SOME OF THESE CHILDREN.

UH, SO, UH, I AM THE JUDGE OF THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY COURT AT LAW, UH, THAT JUDGE HANDLES ALL THE JUVENILE CRIME IN OUR COUNTY.

UM, AND I'VE PRACTICED JUVENILE CRIMINAL DEFENSE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS BEFORE I BECAME JUDGE.

SO I'VE SEEN THE EVOLUTION OF THE JUVENILE CRIME PROBLEM WITHIN OUR COUNTY, WHERE IT USED TO BE CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, LOW LEVEL THEFTS, SOMEWHAT SOME SERIOUS CRIMES, BUT, UH, FAIRLY LOW LEVEL IN COMPARED TO THE ADULT CHARGES.

UH, HOWEVER, IN THE LAST EIGHT OR SO YEARS WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH, UM, THE CRIMES ARE FIRST OF ALL BECOMING, UH, WE'RE HAVING AN INCREASE IN THEM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH, BUT WE'RE HAVING A, UM, MUCH GREATER, UH, SERIOUSNESS LEVEL OF THESE CHARGES.

AND MORE AND MORE ARE INVOLVING FIREARMS, INVOLVING AGGRAVATED ROBBERIES, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, UM, UH, AND THAT NATURE.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS DETENTION CENTER WOULD BE A, A, A GREAT TOOL

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UM, A LOT OF THE CHILDREN NOWADAYS, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE LIMITED BEDS, THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE PLACED IN DETENTION OR THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THEY COULD NOT BE, IF IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS OF A CHARGE, THEY KNOW THAT THEY MAY GET OUT VERY QUICKLY.

UM, AND SO THERE'S NO, UH, SHORT TERM REPERCUSSIONS, NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THESE CHILDREN.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT'S, UH, HAVING EFFECT ON SOME OF OUR POPULATION OF SOME OF THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS.

UM, SO IT COMES DOWN TO THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE SAFETY OF OUR OFFICERS, THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.

UH, I'LL LET EVERYBODY ELSE GO INTO THE NUMBERS AND WHAT WE EXPECT.

BUT WHILE THE, THE COUNTY MIGHT BE PAYING, UM, SOMETHING FOR THIS SERVICE, THIS SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED.

UM, WE ARE HAVING TO RELEASE SOME KIDS THAT WE DON'T WANNA RELEASE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LIMITED RESOURCE OF BEDS.

WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO TRANSPORT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF KIDS TO CERTAIN NUMBER OF FACILITIES ACROSS THE STATE.

AND WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD WITH A DETENTION CENTER FOR WHO WE WANT TO STAY IN THERE AND WHO WE WANT TO RELEASE.

SO, UM, OUR JUVENILE COMMITTEE IS, UH, VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY HAVE A DETENTION CENTER FOR JUVENILES.

UH, THIS INVOLVES SCHOOL OFFICIALS, POLICE OFFICIALS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, CITY LEADERS, CONCERNED CITIZENS.

SO, UM, I DO KNOW THAT WHEN, WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING A, A LARGE PART OF THE COUNTY WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE JUVENILE CRIME AND, AND HOW WE WERE GONNA ADDRESS THAT.

UM, SO I, I DO URGE, I I DO ASK THAT, UM, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND PUT THIS TO THE CITIZENS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE IT.

ONE THING TOO, IT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED, I DON'T THINK, UH, FOR THE, UH, REHAB OF THESE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THERE.

THEN THE SCHOOL AT KAUFMAN WOULD BE PROVIDING TEACHERS TO HELP REHABILITATE THESE CHILDREN.

YES, SIR.

UH, AND SO NOT ONLY IS IT FOR THE CHILDREN CHARGED WITH CRIMES, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR THE DISCIPLINE ISSUES AT THE SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE CHARGED WITH THE CRIME THAT'S CORRECT.

TO BE PLACED IN THE, IN THE, UH, JUVENILE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, BEFORE THE CRIME OCCURS, BEFORE THERE'S AN ISSUE, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING AND SOME DISCIPLINE INVOLVED AND SOME OTHER PROGRAMS INVOLVED WITH THE KIDS THAT ARE HAVING SOME ISSUES THAT DON'T RAISE TO THAT LEVEL.

UH, AND OF COURSE THAT'S, THAT'S HIDDEN AT THIS POINT, UM, UH, AS FAR AS THE PROBLEM.

BUT IT, IT'S ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR OUR CHILDREN THAT NEED IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

CHIEF WHITE CHAIR .

Y'ALL COME, YY COME ON UP THERE.

COME ON.

LINE UP.

YEAH, JUST LINE UP.

HERE'S, GET YOU TO DO EXERCISE.

NO, I THINK THE BIG THING IS, Y'ALL HAVE HEARD US TALK ABOUT THIS.

THE ONE THING IS, WHICH AGAIN, IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

UH, THE CONCERN WE HAVE IS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE SMALLER CITIES TO THE LARGER CITIES, WHEN WE HAPPEN TO DRIVE EIGHT HOURS TO TRANSPORT THESE JUVENILES, IF WE DO GET A BED, WE'RE TAKING THAT OFFICER OFF THE STREET PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

UH, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO ME, WHEN WE HAVE TO TRANSPORT 'EM BACK AND FORTH TO THE COURT, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.

SO THERE, THERE'S SOME LOT OF MONEY THAT PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE SPENDING.

UH, BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING OFFICERS OFF THE STREET TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

THE OTHER THING IS, THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS FOR THESE CHILDREN.

I KNOW THE JUVENILE SIDE, THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH THE BEDS WE HAVE.

BUT YOU GOTTA REALIZE, WHEN KIDS ARE PUT ON MONITORS, AND WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME, THAT THEY'RE STILL VIOLATING THEIR RULES, THAT THEY HAVE TO GO BY PROBATION.

WE HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THEM.

WE HAVE NO WAY TO DO THAT.

AND UNTIL WE CAN CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDE AND THEIR BEHAVIOR, PLUS HAVING THIS WITH THE SCHOOL CORRECTING THIS BEHAVIOR, THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA WIND OVER HERE AT THE JAIL WITH US.

SO MAYBE WE CAN DETER SOME OF THIS.

SO I THINK ALL IN ALL, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTA HAVE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF THESE YOUNG KIDS THAT WE CAN CHANGE.

UM, SO THANK Y'ALL FOR, UH, ALLOWING ME TO, TO SPEAK TODAY ON, I'M SORRY, ON THIS,

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UH, TOPIC, UH, THAT THE CITY OF FORNEY AND FORNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT STAND BEHIND.

I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS.

WE'RE HANDING THOSE OUT RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME NUMBERS FROM THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

WE ACTUALLY PULLED NUMBERS FROM 2019 AND KIND OF ANALYZED ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS TO FIND THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY, UH, WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW, A PATTERN OF THOSE NUMBERS KIND OF ESCALATING.

UH, SO WE LOOK AT, UH, 20 24, 6 6.

I WANNA KIND OF SPEAK ABOUT THEM BRIEFLY AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MEANS TO US.

UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2024, WE HAD AN OCCASION TO HAVE, UH, 30 CASES AGAINST JUVENILES.

16 OF THEM WERE RELEASED TO THEIR GUARDIANS BECAUSE WE COULD NOT EITHER FIND THEM A BED OR DRIVING, UH, WAS NOT AN OPTION AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

FIVE OF THOSE 16 WERE FELONY CASES.

SO YOU'RE QUITE LITERALLY RELEASING WITHOUT REPERCUSSION.

THESE, I CALL THEM CHILDREN, THESE JUVENILES BACK INTO SOCIETY TO GO AHEAD AND COMMIT ANOTHER CRIME, HONESTLY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

IF YOU DO SCOOT DOWN TO HOW MANY WERE TRANSPORTED, WE TRANSPORTED 14, UH, WE DID AN AVERAGE OF WHAT THAT MILEAGE IS.

SO AVERAGE MILEAGE THAT AN OFFICER DROVE WAS TAKEN OFF THE STREET.

NOW, RIGHT NOW I HAVE, HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA, UH, CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

RIGHT NOW I HAVE SIX OFFICERS ON THE STREET AT ANY GIVEN TIME AT, ON A GOOD DAY, ON A GOOD DAY, RIGHT? UH, SO YOU'RE TAKING THAT OFFICER OFF THE STREET.

IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE JUVENILE THAT'S COMMITTED A CRIME, YOU'RE NOW TAKING TWO OFF.

IF THERE'S THREE THAT WERE IN ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, NOW YOU'RE TAKING THREE OFF AND THEY'RE ALL BEING TRANSPORTED TO SOME OF THESE FACILITIES THAT ARE THE CLOSEST TO US AT THE TIME, I'M NOT WILLING TO LET GO OF SOME OF THOSE JUVENILES THAT NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, THAT MEANS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRAVEL TO SAN ANGELO, UM, AND TO MARSHALL, TEXAS TO TAKE SOME OF THESE JUVENILES INTO AN, INTO A FACILITY THAT WILL ACCEPT THEM.

SO ON AVERAGE, AND IN 2024 TO AND FROM, WE AVERAGE 277 MILES DRIVING TIME WITH THESE JUVENILES TO MAKE THEM HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CRIMES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO US? COST? I THINK WE ALREADY KIND OF TOUCHED ON THAT, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE SOMETIMES FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S OVERTIME FOR ME.

SO THAT'S EVEN MORE MONEY.

UH, BUT YOU'RE TAKING AN OFFICER OFF THE STREET TOO, OR YOU'RE CALLING SOMEONE IN THAT'S WILLING TO COME IN AND DO THAT AT AN OVERTIME RATE.

UH, SO THAT'S THE ONE ISSUE.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS LIABILITY.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

THE LIABILITY IS NOT JUST FOR THE OFFICERS IN TRAVEL TIME AND TRAVELING BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT COULD OCCUR, BUT IT'S ALSO ON THE, ON THE JUVENILE.

BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRAVELING 568 MILES TO GET TO ONE PLACE, TO AND FROM, YOU'RE DOUBLING YOUR CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING, SOMETHING HAPPENING ON THE WAY.

UM, SO FOR US, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS ADVOCATE FOR THE FACILITY.

UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT APPRO APPRO APPROPRIATELY.

AS YOU SEE THOUGH, THERE'S, THERE'S NUMBERS HERE FOR FOUR YEARS, OBVIOUSLY I COULD GIVE YOU MORE OF THAT DATA AND WHAT THAT COST LOOKS LIKE.

BUT ROUGHLY 2024, THAT'S ABOUT 63, 60 $300, $6,300 PER MONTH THAT WE'RE DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS, ROUGHLY.

THAT'S A ROUGH INSTRUMENT.

I'D HAVE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE NUMBERS ON THAT.

SO IT IS AN ISSUE.

I CAN REITERATE EVERYTHING THAT BOTH SHERIFF AND CHIEF WHITE HAS SAID, AND ALSO ALL THE OTHER CHIEF ADMINS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT COMING IN HERE.

UH, THE NUMBERS THAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU, WE JUST WENT BACK TO 2022 TO SHOW YOU THE MASS GROWTH THAT WE HAVE HAD.

UH, IN OUR LIST, YOU CAN SEE THE TYPE OF OFFENSES THAT HAVE INCREASED.

AND LIKE CHIEF WHITE WAS REITERATING A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE ACTUALLY ARREST OR DETAIN THESE INDIVIDUALS, WHEN WE CALL JUVENILE PROBATION, TWO, THREE, FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING GOING, WE NEED A BED.

THESE KIDS ARE IN OUR OFFICE GOING LAUGHING, I'LL BE CUT LOOSE IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, AND I KID YOU NOT, THEY ARE.

AND THEN WE WILL SEE THEM THE NEXT MORNING STEALING ANOTHER CAR, GETTING INTO A PURSUIT AND TRACKING 'EM ALL THE WAY THROUGH DALLAS, WHERE THEY WRECK OUT.

THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN TRY TO COMBAT THIS PROBLEM, THAT IS A CONTINUOUS GROWTH, IS TO HAVE OUR TOOLS AND RESOURCES READILY AVAILABLE.

OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, ALL OF US, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, BUT OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

JUVENILE PROBATION IS HELPING US RELIGIOUSLY, BUT THEIR HANDS ARE TIED.

THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH OUR GOAL HERE AND REMIND PEOPLE YOU WANT TO COME TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP YOU SAFE.

BUT THE WAY TO KEEP YOU SAFE IS IF WE HAVE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES READILY AVAILABLE, THE COST OF US DOING THIS BACK AND FORTH, REPEAT OFFENDERS.

I'VE HAD JUVENILE PULL UP, WE DETAINED, UM, 51 OF THEM, AND WE TRANSPORTED 27.

SO THAT'S HALF OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN LOCKED UP AND TAKEN OFF THE STREETS TO PROVE A POINT.

THIS IS A GAME TO THEM BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE HAVE NO PLACE TO TAKE THEM.

THEY HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY WHATSOEVER.

AND UNTIL WE GET THIS UNDER CONTROL, IT'S GOING TO ONLY GET WORSE.

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NEED TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS, WE'RE HERE FOR THEM, AND WE AS A FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, ARE GONNA DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

BUT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS BY HAVING OUR RESOURCES READILY AVAILABLE.

I PREPARED A SPEECH AND THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO SAY, .

I JUST WANNA REEMPHASIZE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE COST, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

AND FINALLY, THE LIABILITY, WE CAN NO LONGER ASSUME IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY PITCH.

UH, Y'ALL ALL KNOW WE NEED TO DO THIS.

I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A FAVORABLE DECISION, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE TER POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY FORNEY, AND THE OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE SPOKE TODAY.

SO, UH, LET'S GET THIS THING DONE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'M CHRISTIE NEAL.

I'M MAYOR FOR THE CITY OF KEMP.

AND I'M HERE IN A MAYORAL CAPACITY.

AND AS A CITIZEN, UM, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

UM, MY DAUGHTER WORKS IN JUVENILE PROBATION, SO WE ALL HAVE HEARD ALL OF THE ISSUES.

WE HAVE THE JUVENILES COM COMMITTING CRIMES WITH NO PLACE TO PUT 'EM EXCEPT ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE PLAYING A CHESS GAME.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE THIS KID HERE, MOVE THIS KID HERE, RELEASE THIS KID, AND THEY CONTINUE TO COMMIT CRIMES.

UM, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE FAMILIES OF THESE KIDS WHO ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES WHEN YOU SEND 'EM SIX HOURS AWAY AND THEIR FAMILIES ALSO DON'T SEE THEM.

I KNOW THAT'S A LESSER OF THE EVILS, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT I KNOW HAS A SHORTAGE.

SO WE'RE ALREADY SHORT, BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA SEND ALL OUR OFFICERS TO OTHER PLACES IN TEXAS AND TAKE 'EM OFF THE STREETS.

AND SO IT CREATES AN, AN EVEN BIGGER SHORTAGE.

WE HAVE A SOLUTION BEFORE US.

WE CAN BUILD A DETENTION CENTER.

IS IT GONNA COST MORE IN TAXES? YES.

BUT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS AND FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS IS TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

AND IT SHOULDN'T BE FOR PROFIT.

IT SHOULD BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS.

AS A TAXPAYER, THIS SHOULD BE OUR RIGHT TO SAFETY.

UM, OUR END OF THE COUNTY CERTAINLY SUPPORTS THIS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

YES, MA'AM.

A NICE SUM OF MONEY TO PARTNER AND SEND THEM TO THE DALLAS JJ.

MY NAME IS ANGELA WIGGINS AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT IN CRALL ISD.

AND WITH ME IS MS. STAT AND SHE'S THE, UM, CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR CRANDALL, ISD AND CRANDALL, ISD.

WE COME IN SUPPORT OF DR.

MURRAY'S VISION FOR OUR SCHOOL DISCIPLINE AND OUR PROJECTS.

I'M FROM MESQUITE.

THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR IN CRANDALL.

SO I'M NEW TO CRANDALL AND NEW TO KAUFMAN COUNTY.

AND AS THE OFFICERS HAVE SAID THIS MORNING, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THERE, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A RISE IN A UPTICK IN, IN JUVENILE OFFENSES.

AND FROM A SCHOOL STANDPOINT, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF A JUVENILE JUSTICE ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PLACEMENT BECAUSE WE WANT OUR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO STAY CLOSE AT HAND SO WE CAN STILL GO AND VISIT THEM AND KEEP OUR HANDS ON THEM.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T WANNA CREATE A PRISON PIPELINE.

WE WANT OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE GONNA BE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OUR NEIGHBORS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SHOPPING IN WALMART WITH, WE WANT THEM TO GET AN EDUCATION.

SO IDEALLY WHEN THEY MAKE THESE MISTAKES, CHAPTER 37 OFFENSES, THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THE JUVENILE JUSTICE CENTER AND THEY'RE ABLE TO GO GET THEIR EDUCATION DAILY IN A STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT.

AND TYPICALLY THERE THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO GET SUPPORT FROM THE SCHOOL TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE COUNSELING SERVICES THEY NEED.

IF THEY'RE A SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENT, THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.

ALL OF THESE THINGS CONTINUE, BUT THEY'RE STILL BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE OFFENSES.

SO AT THE END OF THEIR TERM THERE, THEY CAN STILL TRANSITION BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE COMING BACK, UM, IN A SAFE WAY AND IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY READY TO COME BACK AND REINTEGRATE INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND READY TO HOPEFULLY DO THE RIGHT THING.

BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS EXPEL THEM TO THE STREETS, WHICH WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GO OR EXPEL THEM TO OUR CURRENT DAPS, OUR DISTRICT ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PLACEMENTS, WHICH ARE ALREADY, UM, PRETTY FULL.

AND I THINK THAT'S SAFE TO SAY IN MOST DISTRICTS AND ALSO IN THOSE DISTRICT PLACEMENTS, WHEN THEY'RE THERE FOR THE SAME NUMBER OF DAYS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF RESOURCES.

OUR SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY STRETCHED THIN, UM, UTILIZING THEIR RESOURCES.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THEM WHAT THEY NEED AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL WHEN THEY'VE CREATED THESE SITUATIONS FOR THEMSELVES AND DONE THESE TYPES OF OFFENSES.

FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, CRANDALL ISD HAS PARTNERED WITH DISD AND PARTNERED WITH DALLAS COUNTY.

SO ANY OF OUR CHAPTER 37 STUDENTS WHO COMMIT THOSE TYPE OFFENSES, WE PAY, UH,

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WELL, WITH THAT, NOT ONLY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY TO SEND THEM THERE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN DALLAS COUNTY, SO OUR RATE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION.

SO WHETHER THAT'S, UM, BUS TRANSPORTATION, OUR VAN TRANSPORTATION, OR WE HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH A, UM, STUDENT SERVICE, UM, STUDENT DRIVER SERVICE TO GET THEM THERE.

THAT'S EVEN MORE MONEY THAN OUR SCHOOL, WHICH IS ALREADY STRAPPED.

OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO EXPEND, UM, TO GET A KID TO THE DALLAS COUNTY JUVENILE JUSTICE PLACEMENT CENTER.

SO CRANDALL ID IS IN FAVOR OF HAVING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR KIDS WHAT THEY NEED AND GET THEM BACK ON TRACK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUDGE GRAY, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? JUDGE RUSSELL? HE DID IT FOR YOU.

, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAME.

I AM FOR YOU FOR, OKAY.

JUST PETTY.

JUDGE GIBBS, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING THERE? THERE'S A LOT THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UH, TRISH, YOU WANT TO FINISH IT UP THEN? I DON'T THINK, IS ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE EVERY COUNTY AND THE JUDGE IN THE AUDIENCE, SO WE JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL HERE SUPPORTING THIS.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER.

JUDGE.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE, UH, THE JUVENILE BOARD IN JULY DECIDED TO FORM A COMMITTEE, AND I WANNA THANK THEM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER SINCE THE FALL OF LAST YEAR TO COME UP WITH THE, UH, PRICE FOR THE DETENTION CENTER, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND EVERYTHING.

SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

UH, AND I WANT TO THANK MY BOARD.

THEY'RE HERE FOR SUPPORT.

THEY REALLY HAVE SUPPORTED US.

THEY HAVE REALLY PUSHED FOR US TO GET THIS DETENTION CENTER.

LASTLY, THE COMMITTEE COME, WE'VE MADE A DECISION, WE VOTED LAST MONTH TO GO AHEAD TO ASK YOU GUYS TO APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD WHAT THEY BOND IN MAY OF THIS YEAR FOR A DETENTION CENTER.

OKAY, GENTLEMEN, YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE, YOU ALREADY KNOW ALL THE ISSUES, CONCERNS, YOU KNOW THE PRICE.

BRANDY? UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UM, EXCUSE ME, THAT I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE, UM, HILLTOP SECURITIES IN RELATION WITH FITCH RATINGS.

AND JUST TO SAY THAT OUR RATING, UM, IS STILL A DOUBLE A, BUT, UM, THE OUTLOOK WAS REVISED FROM STABLE TO POSITIVE.

SO OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE, UM, TO INCREASE OUR BOND RATING AND WE ARE SETTING IN A GOOD PLACE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND LIKE WHEN WE HAD OUR REVIEW FROM HILLTOP, WE ARE CONSIDERED A VERY CONSERVATIVE COURT.

SO THAT'S HOW WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE.

VERY CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HE IS HIS WALLET AND MOSS COME OUTTA THAT THING.

ANYWAY.

ANYWAY, THAT'S THE KIND OF PEOPLE YOU WANT HERE, .

YES, IT IS.

LET ME TELL YOU.

THEN IT'LL BE UP TO THE VOTERS, YOU KNOW.

LOOKING AFTER YOUR DOLLAR AS WELL AS MINE.

EXACTLY.

I CAN SAY WE'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB.

AND I, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I HAVE A PERSONAL REASON TO SUPPORT THIS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN IN OUR AREA FOR SOME REASON THAT GETS ARRESTED.

AND GUESS WHERE THEY ALL COME? THEY ALL COME OUT IN THE HALLWAY IN FRONT OF MY OFFICE.

AND SO I GET TO VISIT WITH A LOT OF THEM, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO ARGUE WITH A LOT OF THEM POLITELY, I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS A REAL DISRUPTION WHEN YOU HAVE A COURTHOUSE AND YOU HAVE A TAX OFFICE AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE JUVENILES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HALLWAYS AND EVERYBODY HAS TO GO UP AND DOWN THE HALLWAYS.

AND, AND I JUST, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THEIR HEALTH AND WEALTH WELFARE AS WELL AS WE SHOULD BE.

AND THIS WILL, THIS WILL HELP A HUNDRED PERCENT.

SO WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS.

AND I HOPE THE, UH, VOTERS UNDERSTAND THAT AND HOPE THEY GET OUT AND VOTE.

AND THE SCHOOLS NEED IT.

I KNOW THE SCHOOLS NEED IT.

YEP.

YOU DON'T KNOW.

I TALK TO DR. TERRY ALL THE TIME.

HE BEATS US UP QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE CRAP.

THEY DON'T COME OVER HERE AND BOTHER US, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THEY'RE BOTHERING SOMEBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT NO, UH, SO I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT IT WORKS WELL AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE COST.

THE COMMITTEE'S WORKED VERY WELL.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THESE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR DOING THIS.

AND, UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, I'M SURE.

AND

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SO, TERRY, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? WE NEED IT.

KELLY.

I'M LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

TOMMY, JUST 15 MINUTES, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

ALL YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID TODAY WAS VERY CLEAR AND VERY TRUE.

AND I, AND ME, COMING FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND, THERE'S NOTHING EASY ABOUT THE JUVENILE SYSTEM.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT, IT'S GOT ITS UPS AND DOWNS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER GOING TO END.

SO IT'S JUST, THIS IS GONNA BE A GOOD RESOURCE FOR OUR COUNTY TO HAVE THAT CLOSER TO US.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED.

WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

JUST MOVE IT TO THE VOTERS AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET IT ALL DONE.

AND I THINK, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO HELP WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

SO I SUPPORT IT.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT'S A DIFFICULT SUBJECT.

IT REALLY IS.

WITH JUVENILES IS SUBJECT.

VERY, IT IS.

AND I HAVE LOTS OF FRIENDS WHO ARE TEACHERS AND THEY HAVE MY OWN FAMILY TEACHERS.

SO WE HEAR AND SEE WHAT GOES ON EVERY DAY.

AND YOU'D LIKE TO THUMP 'EM ON THE HEAD, BUT YOU CAN'T.

THEY'RE JUST KNUCKLEHEADS AND IT NEEDS SOME DIRECTION.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP THEM WITH THIS.

SO AT THIS TIME, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDER CALLING FOR THE BOND ELECTION IN THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A JUVENILE DETENTION SITTER AND A RESOLUTION OF RELATED MATTERS.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR YOU.

COMMISSIONER PHIS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. WAR MAKES A SECOND.

A AYE.

WE WILL, I WILL FILL OUT ALL THESE LATER, SO DON'T LEAVE UNTIL WE GET THESE ALL SIGNED.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

YEAH, SOUNDS GOOD TO YOU.

YEAH, PROBABLY EVERYBODY CAN'T SEE IT ON TV, BUT THEY'RE ALL CONGRATULATING EACH OTHER.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THAT'S IT.

THIS, THIS WAS THE EASY PART, GUYS.

SO IF YOU'RE LISTENING ON TV NOW, IT'LL BE UP TO YOU.

PAGE FIVE.

OH FAR, MONIQUE? YES SIR.

IT'S TOO MUCH WORK.

ON WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE

[3. Commissioner Moore: Discuss/Consider/Approve the publication and posting of notice of sale of 0.251 ac in Kemp, Kaufman County, to adjacent landowner pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 263.002, where publication shall run for three weeks and Commissioner's Court shall consider final sale on March 4, 2025.]

COMMISSIONER MOORE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROOF THE PUBLICATION AND POSTING OF NOTICE FOR SALE OF 0.2 51 ACRES IN KEMP.

THIS IS RIGHT BESIDE THE DOLLAR STORE.

YEAH, SIR.

THIS IS GONNA BE BETWEEN THE, YEAH, THIS WAS JUST A LITTLE SMALL, ZERO FRACTION OF ACRE.

THAT ACRE WAS PART OF THE DOLLAR GENERAL, THE, OR THE FAMILY DOLLAR LITTLE STORE THERE.

THE NEW ONE IN TOWN.

UH, IT'S THE PROPERTY.

IT WAS LEFT THERE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT FROM A FAMILY MEMBER THINKING THAT 1 75 WAS GONNA WIDEN THERE AT ONE TIME, BUT IT WOUND UP GOING AROUND CAMP.

SO, UH, ANYWAY, WE WAS GONNA SELL THIS PROPERTY.

WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK, BRAD AND, UH, KIND LOOKED INTO IT AND YES, I'LL LET BRAD REITERATE ON, UH, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS PASSING, UM, AUTHORIZING THE POSTING THE NOTICE THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE.

UM, SO NORMALLY WHEN A GOVERNMENT ENTITY WOULD SELL LAND, IT WOULD GO FOR BID, BUT THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE LOCAL DERMA CODE THAT ALLOW US TO SELL LAND TO AN ADJOINING UH, LANDOWNER.

THAT'S THE PROVISION WE'RE USING.

AND WE SAW AND WHAT IS EFFECTIVELY THE, UM, APPRAISED VALUE? WE'RE USING THE LOCAL APPRAISED VALUE TAX APPRAISED.

AND IT JUST ADD IN OUR PARKING LOT.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S DOING.

SO FOR THE PUBLIC, NO, IT'S JUST ADDING TO THEIR PARKING LOT FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL IN THERE.

SO YOU MAKE ANY FORMAL MOTION? I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER MORMAN MOTION.

I KNOW WE BROUGHT UP BEFORE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER CROW MADE A SECOND.

ACCEPT, CONSIDER AND DISCUSS YOUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FOR 2024.

MOTION CARRIES.

SHERIFF BEAVERS

[4. Sheriff Beavers: Discuss/Consider/Accept the Kaufman County Sherriff's Office Racial Profiling Report 2024.]

GOOD MORNING, SHERIFF.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I THINK I'VE HANDED EVERYBODY THEIR BOOKS AND GAVE A COPY OF THE COUNTY CLERK.

AS YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY, I DO A PRETTY DETAILED REPORT WHEN WE DO THIS 'CAUSE RACIAL PROFILING.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THE SENATE BILL 10 74 WAS PASSED IN 2001.

RIGHT? UH, SO THE SUMMARY'S PRETTY EASY IF YOU JUST GO THE SUMMARY.

THE BIG THING ABOUT, UH, DEALING WITH TCO AND THE REPORT WE DO NOW, YOU'VE GOTTA ANALYZE THE DATA, UH, YOU'VE GOTTA LOOK AT IT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE STATUTE.

UH, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS, UH, OUT OF ALL OUR TRAFFIC STOPS, WE DID, UH, 3,850 AND IN, IN OUR CAB REPORT, BUT WE MADE CONTACTS AND CITATIONS

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OF 38 65.

SO WE'RE REPORTING A HUNDRED 0.3%.

UH, WHICH THAT TELLS ME THAT WE'RE COUNTING FOR EVERY STOP THAT WE'RE PUTTING PHONE BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WE DON'T HAVE OUR NUMBERS MISSING.

AND THAT'S VERY VITAL TO ME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REPORTING CORRECTLY.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE SUMMARY IS, IT PUTS OUT, THE BIG THING ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO ANALYZE DATA IS EITHER YOU DO IT BY DRIVER'S LICENSE DATA OR YOU DO IT BY CENSUS.

WELL, WE ALL KNOW HOW THE CENSUS ARE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT.

CENSUS IS THE BEST RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE BREAK IT UP FROM ALL THE CONTACTS WE DID AND OUR VARIANCES, AND THEN COMPARE IT TO OUR RESIDENCE WHERE WE'RE TRULY LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES.

SO YOU SEE THAT, WE SEE A FEW VARIANCES, BUT THERE'S NOTHING OUTTA THE ORDINARY THAT'S CATCHING US.

WE'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS.

UH, AND THEN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE SEARCHES, YOU CAN SEE THAT CAUCASIANS AND WHITES ARE BEING SEARCHED 48% MORE THAN, UH, OUT OF ALL THE BREAKDOWN THAT AMERICAN THEN LATINOS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHEN YOU COMPARE THE DATA, WHICH IS PRETTY OVERWHELMING.

I STARTED LOOKING AT SOME OTHER DATA OVER THE 22 OF PUTTING THAT THAT'S NOT CENSUS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE, THE WHITE CAUCASIAN POPULATION HAS DROPPED DOWN TO 50.2.

UH, AND THIS IS NOT ON Y'ALL'S, THIS IS DATA THAT I WENT AND RESEARCHED.

'CAUSE I WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE OUR 2020 CENSUS.

UH, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN IS 8.6, THE HISPANIC LATINO HAS WENT TO 27.0, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY WELL STAYED.

THE ASSIGNED.

SO HISPANIC AND LATINOS IN OUR COUNTY HAS INCREASED BY ONE POINT OR 9.9, AND THE WHITE CAUCASIAN HAS DROPPED BY 19.8, UH, SINCE THE CENSUS HAS COME OUT.

BUT COMPARING TO EVERYTHING, THE SENATE BILL AND THEN OUR, OUR POLICY ALWAYS PUT OUR POLICIES IN OUR, UH, BIAS POLICIES IN THERE.

BUT AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ACCEPT IT.

WE HAVE NO COMPLAINTS.

UH, THE DATA SHOWS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH RACIAL PROFILING AND, UH, WITH MY DEPARTMENT.

SO IF Y'ALL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR SHERIFF, YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE A VERY DETAILED SUMMARY EACH YEAR, JUST LIKE IN YOUR BUDGET.

SO THERE'S LEAVES, NOTHING, UH, TO BE UNCOVERED.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND IT'S VERY, VERY GOOD REPORT.

WELL, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK OUT THERE AND I APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP YOU BET THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR, UH, PARTNERS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY.

UH, 'CAUSE WITHOUT THEM BEING INVOLVED, THIS COULDN'T BE POSSIBLE.

EXACTLY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER SLANG MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS TO APPLY FOR FUNDING THROUGH THE JUVENILE JUSTICE AND TRUANCY GRANT PROGRAM FOR 26 TO SUPPORT A PROGRAM TO IMPROVE KAUFMAN COUNTY'S JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM BY PROVIDING INTERVENTION SERVICES THROUGH THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE NUMBER TWO, UH, DEPARTMENT.

[5. Pam Corder: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Resolution to apply for funding through the Juvenile Justice & Truancy Grant Program FY2026 to support program to improve the Kaufman County Juvenile Justice System by providing intervention services through the Justice of the Peace Pet. 2 (Judge Tarno) Department.]

YES, MA'AM.

WELL, I THINK WE ALL REALIZE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

YES, IT IS.

AND SO THIS IS FUNDING.

THE FUNDING, UM, APPLICATION SEEKS TO REDUCE JUVENILE DELINQUENCY AND IMPROVE COMMUNITY SAFETY IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF EVIDENCE-BASED VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND TRUANCY INTERVENTION PROGRAMS IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURTS, MAINLY PRECINCT TWO, BY PARTNERING WITH OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS, AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, THE INITIATIVE WILL PROVIDE TARGETED, SUPPORTED TO AT-RISK YOUTH, INCLUDING MENTORSHIP, CONFLICT RESOLUTION TRAINING, EDUCATIONAL REINFORCEMENT, AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

THESE ARE EFFORTS AIMED TO ADDRESS UNDERLYING RISK, FAST FACTORS, JUVENILE OFFENSIVE OFFENSES, IMPROVE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, AND FOSTER A STRONGER COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP.

UM, THIS IS FOR AGES 10 TO 17.

AND SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T LOSE ANYTHING BY APPLYING.

SO WE'RE GONNA APPLY AND SEE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FUNDING IN THIS STREAM, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET.

IF FUNDED, THE CHANCES WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD BE FUNDED FOR THREE YEARS.

SO, WELL, YOU KNOW, PAM DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB ON ALL OF OUR GRANTS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW THE, THE CITIZENS DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SAVE US BY ALL THESE GRANTS AND IT IS APPRECIATED.

IT AFFECTS OUR BOTTOM LINE BUDGET TOO.

SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR PAM? NO.

SO WE CAN APPLY FOR UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR HER.

MR. PHIPPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A JOHN DEERE SKIDSTEER FOR PRECINCT ONE OR ROAD BRIDGE UTILIZE UTILIZING THE SOURCE WHEEL CONTRACT 0 1 1 7 2 3.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU PAM.

AND PAM, YOU THINK THERE'S A GRANT OUT THERE FOR BILLING THE JUVENILE SYSTEM FOR 40 MILLION ? NO.

THERE, THERE.

I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU MIGHT LOOK FOR ONE.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK BUT DON'T, DON'T QUIT LOOKING

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[7. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve the purchase of a John Deere skid steer for Pet. 1 Road and Bridge utilizing Sourcewell contract 011723.]

GOOD MORNING, SIR.

WE'RE BUYING A SKID SKIER FOR PRECINCT ONE RODENT BRIDGE UTILIZING SOURCE WELL CONTRACT.

AND THAT IS 0 1 1 7 23.

IT MEETS ALL PURCHASING, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

I RECOMMEND THE PURCHASE.

YOU SAID IT'S GONNA BE A PURCHASE OR FINANCE PURCHASED PURCHASE.

SO YOU GONNA PUT THAT FORM OF A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CROW.

HAVE A SECOND.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDERING APPROVED, UTILIZING TEXAS BID CONTRACT FOR CANYON ROAD 40 83 USING DALLAS COUNTY INTERLOCAL IFB 2022 AND ELLIS COUNTY, RFB NUMBER 2024 DASH 0 1 0.

A A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU MR. RENO.

ONCE AGAIN

[8. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve utilizing Texas Bit Contract for County Road 4083 using Dallas County Interlocal IFB-2022 and Ellis County RFB NO 2024-010]

YES MA'AM.

SO COMMISSIONER MOORE HAS A ROAD THAT HE WANTS TO REPAIR AND UM, THIS IS ROAD 40 83.

THIS IS ON TEXAS BID CONTRACT.

AND WE'RE UTILIZING ELLIS COUNTY AND DALLAS COUNTY ENTERED LOCAL AGREEMENT.

IT IS FOR 1698404 CENTS.

EVERYTHING'S BEEN CHECKED AND VERIFIED AND I RECOMMEND THE PURCHASE.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND SAY AYE.

[9. DA Wiley: Discuss/Consider/Approve the submission of the grant application and funding resolution for Kaufman County's Misdemeanor Family Violence Prosecutor and Investigator Project.]

WILEY.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR FUNDING RESOLUTION FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY'S MISDEMEANOR FAMILY VIOLENCE PROSECUTOR AND INVESTIGATOR RE PROJECT.

OUR EFFORTS TO THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE MOST IMPACT.

AND THEN BRANDY'S GONNA HAVE SOME NUMBERS FOR US IF YOU DON'T HAVE 'EM.

PERFECT.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF DA WILEY.

MY NAME IS TAYLOR MCCONNELL.

I AM THE STREET CRIMES PROSECUTOR FOR KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

UH, I'M HERE ON BOTH A GRANT FOR A MISDEMEANOR STREET CRIMES PROSECUTOR, AS WELL AS A MISDEMEANOR FAMILY VIOLENCE PROSECUTOR.

AS YOU'VE ALREADY SAID, JUDGE.

UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SEEKING TO ADD NOT ONLY A MISDEMEANOR SPECIALTY PROSECUTOR IN BOTH THOSE AREAS, BUT AN ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATOR AS WELL.

UH, WE HAVE SOUGHT TO FUND THIS OPPORTUNITY THROUGH GRANTS IN DIFFERENT CHANNELS.

THE GRANT FOR THE FAMILY VIOLENCE PROSECUTOR IS THROUGH THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT OR OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS AWA.

UM, WE ARE SEEKING, AGAIN, BOTH A PROSECUTOR AND INVESTIGATOR UNDER THAT GRANT.

ADDITIONALLY, FOR THE STREET CRIME SIDE OF THINGS, UM, WE ARE SEEKING A GRANT UNDER THE PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT'S DIRECTLY THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

IT ALSO CARRIES WITH IT A, A SPECIAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING GIVEN TO GANG TASK FORCES.

AND AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY MISSIONS OF THE STREET CRIMES TASK FORCE OUT THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE COUNSEL OR FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, EXCUSE ME, TO APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE REQUESTS.

I WILL NOTE THAT THE PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS GRANT IS GOING TO BE 100% FUNDED THROUGH THAT GRANT.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKELY SEEK YEAR AFTER YEAR TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN.

WITH REGARD TO THE AWA GRANT, THERE IS A 30% MATCH THAT THE GRANT REQUIRES, UM, THAT MS. VAN HUSS CAN PROVIDE YOU MORE SPECIFICS ON THE NUMBERS OF, UH, BUT WE ARE STILL NONETHELESS ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE THAT REQUEST AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT.

I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU JUST WITH SOME BASIC STATISTICS SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION.

OBVIOUSLY OUR OFFICE HAS GROWN IMMENSELY, AS HAS THE COUNTY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, BUT THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN JUST THE LAST TWO YEARS IS, IS REALLY QUITE ASTOUNDING.

IN 2022, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES RECEIVED BY THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DA'S OFFICE WAS JUST OVER 4,000.

BY 2024, THAT NUMBER HAS JUMPED TO JUST UNDER 5,000.

WE'RE AT 4,937.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE IN JUST TWO YEARS, THAT'S A GROWTH OF ABOUT 20 TO 25% IN THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT OUR OFFICE IS RECEIVING.

WHILE WE HAVE, UM, SOUGHT TO GROW OUR SPECIALTY FELONY PROSECUTION UNITS, SADLY THE MISDEMEANOR UNIT HAS REMAINED UNCHANGED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE'RE SEEKING TO CHANGE THAT NOW SO THAT NOT ONLY WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND THE GROWTH OF THE CRIME TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, BUT ALSO WE CAN MIMIC A LOT OF THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR FELONY PROSECUTION UNITS AND SPECIALIZING

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THAT BEING VIOLENT CRIMES, GANG ORIENTED CRIMES, DRUG OFFENSES.

AND THEN WITH THE AWA GRANT FE FELONY, OR EXCUSE ME, MISDEMEANOR FAMILY VIOLENCE IS, THERE'S A STAGGERING NUMBER OF STATISTICS THAT SHOW THOSE WHO COMMIT FELONY FAMILY VIOLENCE OFFENSES HAVE COMMITTED AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT MULTIPLE MISDEMEANOR FAMILY VIOLENCE OFFENSES AS WELL.

SO WE ARE ASKING THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS HERE TODAY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

I HAVE SOME MORE NUMBERS PREPARED, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA WASTE THE COURT'S TIME.

RANDY, UM, JUST WITH THE FIRST ONE, THE ITEM THAT WE'RE ON NOW, THE MISDEMEANOR FELONY VIOLENCE PROSECUTOR AND INVESTIGATION PRO INVESTIGATOR PROJECT, THE MATCHING FUNDS FOR THAT, THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE $66,810 AND 40 CENTS.

UM, AND I JUST DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THIS IS AN ASK FOR NEW POSITIONS, UM, NOT POSITIONS THAT CURRENTLY BUDGETED AT BUDGET TIME.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE NEW POSITIONS FUNDED BY THIS GRANT? THAT'S CORRECT.

LOOKING TO TAKE EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST, 2025.

OCTOBER 1 25.

YES MA'AM.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU, IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE? YES, THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR? NO, THE GRANT'S GOING TO THE ONLY CONCERN WE HAVE WITH NEW POSITIONS, SOMETIMES GRANTS PAY FOR CURRENT POSITIONS.

CORRECT.

BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY, WE'RE ADDING MORE POSITIONS AND, AND SHOULD THE GRANTS NOT GO THROUGH OR YOU DON'T GET RENEWED FOR THAT GRANT OR THE GRANTS GO AWAY NEXT YEAR, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING.

EITHER WE TRY AND PICK IT UP OR WE DON'T FUND IT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

OR WE'LL HAVE TO LOSE THOSE POSITIONS.

SO AS LONG AS Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT, AS LONG AS THE FUNDING'S JUDGE WILEY IS WELL AWARE OF THAT.

WE CUT THAT OFF.

AND I THINK IT HELPS THAT THE POSITIONS ARE NOT GONNA START TILL OCTOBER 1ST OF 25.

SO THAT GIVES Y'ALL ENOUGH TIME PRIOR TO BUDGET NEXT YEAR TO OKAY.

KNOW WHETHER THE FUNDING'S COMING THROUGH OR NOT.

CORRECT.

AND SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS AND GIVE YOU A HUNDRED PEOPLE.

I'M SAYING WE HAD TO BE GOOD CONSERVATIVES OF OUR MONEY AND GOOD STEWARDS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVERSPENDING THERE.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WILL SAY TOO, IN THE PAST WE FILED FOR THE AWA GRANT TO FUND OUR FELONY FAMILY VIOLENCE UNIT.

THAT UNIT'S NOW GROWN TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST IN OUR OFFICE.

SO WE KNOW THAT THE SUCCESS IS THERE.

WHEN WE FILED FOR THAT GRANT, ORIGINALLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS A TWO OR THREE YEAR GRANT.

HOWEVER, NOW UNDER THAT GRANT YOU HAVE TO FILE EVERY YEAR.

SO I DO RECOGNIZE YOUR POINT.

AND WE JUST GOT SOME MONEY FROM OUR GRANT THAT, OR LEFTOVER MONEY THAT THE STATE GAVE US.

WE NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA SHOW UP AND IT'S FOR A NEW POSITION, BUT THE STATE'S, HERE'S THE MONEY YOU TAKE IT OR WE'RE GONNA LOSE IT.

SO WE, WE TAKE, WE TAKE THE MONEY YES.

BUT WE ARE SEEKING AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT.

FOR NEW POSITIONS OVERALL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOW I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION PLEASE.

MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE SECOND.

AGAIN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVE THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR FUNDING RESOLUTION FOR COLTON COUNTY'S PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM.

A AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES, ONCE

[10. DA Wiley: Discuss/Consider/Approve the submission of the grant application and funding resolution for Kaufman County's Project Safe Neighborhoods Program.]

YEP.

SAME THING.

JUDGE GOT A MOTION FROM YOU? MM-HMM.

ALRIGHT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER LANE, MR. SECOND.

KELLY BEAT YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND MESQUITE FOR THE FM 7 41 HEARTLAND SIGNAL PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $377,316.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

OKAY, MR. BRENDA,

[11. Brenda Callaway P.E.: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Kaufman County and Mesquite for the FM 741-Heartland Signal Project in the amount of $377,316.00.]

UM, THE CITY OF MESQUITE HAS WORKED WITH TDOT TO GET A SIGNAL STUDY AT FM 7 41 IN HEARTLAND PARKWAY.

IT DID PASS A SIGNAL STUDY AND ALL THE WARRANTS FOR A SIGNAL.

AND THIS SIGNAL PERMANENTLY IS INCLUDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UH, FOR THE WIDENING OF FM 7 41 OH.

BUT AS WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION FUNDING HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED YET.

SO MESQUITE DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD DO THE DESIGN FOR THIS TEMPORARY SIGNAL AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNAL.

FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNAL IS TAKEN OUT OF OUR ORIGINAL 2019 ROAD BOND LINE ITEM FOR THE DESIGN OF FM 7 41.

AND THAT'S A TASK THAT TEXDOT TOOK OVER FROM US, SO WE DID NOT HAVE TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS.

SO WE'VE GOT A INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE

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DOING HERE? YEP.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. UH, MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

, I'LL SECOND FOR YOU.

EXCUSE THAT.

WHATEVER.

OH, MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

READY? YES.

AS TALK WITH THE SHERIFF ABOUT THE GUARDRAIL OVER THERE BY THE GUY WIRES ON THE TOWER.

HAS IT NOT BEEN YOU LEAVE PUT IN YET? THEY PUT SOME IN, BUT IT DOESN'T PROTECT THE GUY WIRES.

SHERIFF CAN SHOW YOU.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE FINAL CONTRACT FOR THE COUNTY SHOW GROUNDS.

NUMBER 12,

[12. Commissioner Skeet Phillips: Discuss/Consider/Approve the final contract for the County Showgrounds.]

NOW THIS WAS ALL LAST WEEK, SO Y'ALL PASSED ON IT AND UH, TOMMY BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION.

I'M LET HIM, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? IF HE'S SATISFIED WITH HIS ENTRY YET? WELL, HE WAS READING THE THING WE WAS GOING TO HAVE BRAD'S ONE THAT WORKED ON IT.

I THINK KAREN WAS GONNA HAVE YOU LOOK AT IT TOO.

BUT THE QUESTION WAS, IT WAS UH, UH, LIKE A YEAR LEASE OR TYPE AGREEMENT.

AND THE QUESTION WE HAD WAS, OR THEY, IT MADE, IF YOU REACHED THE CONTRACT, IT MADE IT SOUND LIKE THEY'RE LEASING THE WHOLE GROUNDS FOR A YEAR.

BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS WAS FOR THE LITTLE, UH, THE RABBIT BUILDING, THE RABBIT BUILDING IF THIS OR THAT WASN'T CLEAR IN THERE.

SO WE WAS TRYING TO CLEAR THAT UP BEFORE WE VOTED.

I THOUGHT IT WAS CLEAR.

YOU DON'T SAY NOTHING IN THE CONTRACT ABOUT THE LITTLE BUILDING.

IT JUST SAYS THE WHOLE GROUND.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS THOUGH.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAID LAST WEEK.

WE DIDN'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.

BUT I MEAN, I DRAFTED THIS AND I MEAN I SPECIFICALLY IN THE FIRST OR SECOND PARAGRAPH STATED THIS WAS FOR THE BUILDING COMMON CALLED THE RABBIT HUTCH BECAUSE YEAH.

NOT A BETTER NAME FOR THAT.

SO THE, THE LEASE THAT I DRAFTED DID CLEARLY THAT BUILDING, I MEAN OKAY.

UH, THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THE DESCRIPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A LARGER LEASE WOULD'VE BEEN ALMOST AT THE LEGAL PROPERTY DESCRIPTION, BUT BECAUSE OF THE, THERE'S NO ADDRESS OUT THERE AND UM, SO ON A LARGE COMMERCIAL SCALE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AN ISSUE.

BUT FOR, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR LEASE HAVE A RABBIT HU YEAH.

BIG DEAL.

BUT THIS LEASE DID SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THE RAT HU I BELIEVE I HAVE EVEN HAD IT IN QUOTATION MARK.

IS THERE, IS THERE A SIGN ON THE BILL SAYING THAT? NO, IT'S RABBIT.

THAT'S WHAT IT, THAT'S WHAT IT USED TO BE.

AND THEN THAT'LL, WE CAN PUT A SIGN ON IT.

WELL THAT DESCRIBE IT, THE COURT, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE PUT A SIGN ON IT SAYING THAT THE BUILDING BASED UPON LIKE THE BUILDING ON THE MOTOR SOUTH SOUTHEASTERN OR WE FURTHER DESCRIBE IT THAT WAY, BUT IT WAS REFERRED TO AS BUILDING, PROBABLY REFERRED TO AS THE RABBIT HUTCH.

WE'LL PUT A SIGN ON IT, WE'LL PUT A SIGN ON IT AND CALL IT THAT.

SO WHETHER IT'S LEASE, SO IT'S WHATEVER IT IS AND UH, OKAY IT'LL BE IDENTIFIED THEN EVERYBODY WILL QUIT HAVING A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

THE POLICE ALSO STATED EXPRESSLY THAT BOTH PARTIES, YOU KNOW, UH, KNOW WHICH BUILDING THAT IS.

THAT BEFORE THEY EXECUTE BECAUSE IT WAS EVERYBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY CAN BE A PARTY TO THIS IS ALL AWARE WHAT THE RABID HUTCH IS AND IT IS LIMITED TO THAT.

IT ALSO LIMITS THE ABILITY TO STORE STUFF OUTSIDE THAT ANY UTILITIES WOULD BE RESPONSIBLY.

, THEY HAVE TO PUT IN THEIR OWN UTILITIES IF THEY SHOULD WANT UTILITIES THERE.

SO THEIR COST SUB METERING, ANY MAINTENANCE IS ALL ON THEM, NOT US.

SO IT WAS UH, ALSO WRITTEN SUCH A WAY THAT EVERY YEAR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD RE-APPROVE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE.

SO THAT IF AS THE COURT GOES ON, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THAT IT WOULDN'T PUT ANY, NO EITHER THE COUNTY JUDGE OR ANYONE ELSE.

IT WOULD COME UP TO THE COURTS FILE EACH YEAR.

EACH YEAR SOMETHING WENT SOUTH AND WE CAN STOP IT.

SO ON DALLAS WAS TRYING TO REPRESENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COURT HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO ASSIST THE SHOW BOARD BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

BUT WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO TWO YEARS FROM NOW WITH THAT SO IT DOESN'T HAVE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS GOING INTO PLACE.

ARE YOU HAPPY? YES SIR.

ALRIGHT, WELL I'M MAKING MO FORM MOTION THEN.

ALL MOTION SECOND.

YOU'LL SECOND MORE.

MADE A SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY FIRE CODE SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE APPENDIX A BOARD OF APPEALS.

[13. Mike Taylor: Discuss/Consider/Approve amendments to the Kaufman County Fire Code, specifically relating to Appendix A Board of Appeals.]

THEN WE HAD TO HAVE ALL FIVE MEMBERS THERE.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL HAD UPDATED OUR FIRE CODE AND WITH SOME AMENDMENTS AROUND THERE THAT WHERE WE HAVE A FIRE CODE, UH, FROM PAST, WE HAD A DIFFERENT SETUP WITH IT, WITH ADOPTION OF THE NEW CODE, UH, CALLED FOR CREATING AN ACTUAL BOARD OF APPEALS THROUGH THAT.

UH, SO WE DID IS THAT WE SENT THAT, I CAME BEFORE TALKED TO Y'ALL ABOUT THAT.

WE GOT A LIST OF PEOPLE FINALLY, UM, I WORKED WITH BRAD, HE, UM, KEEP ME ASTRAY HERE.

IF I GO THROUGH, UM, TO MAKE AMENDMENTS INTO OUR BOARD AS FAR AS HOW THAT PART WAS ADOPTED, IT ORIGINALLY HAD A, A BOARD OF FIVE MEMBERS.

SO WE'VE EXPANDED THAT TO EIGHT MEMBERS.

SO THAT PART OF IT IN THERE THAT UH, WITH A VOTING OF AT LEAST FOUR.

SO THAT WAY IF WE NEEDED VARIANCES

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SO IN ORDER TO KIND OF CUT DOWN ON MAKING SURE ALL FIVE MEMBERS CAN BE THERE, WE EXPAND THAT UP TO THE EIGHT.

AND SO THAT WITH A QUORUM OF THAT FOUR THAT WE GO THROUGH THERE.

AND OF COURSE IN THERE HAVING A, UH, CHAIRMAN AS WELL AS THE SECRETARY IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR AS FAR AS JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THAT PART, WHICH WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE ONE.

UM, THE NEED OF THIS BOARD TO BE CLEAR, TYPICALLY DOESN'T MEET VERY OFTEN.

LAST YEAR WE HAD THREE TOTAL, I BELIEVE IS WHAT WE HAD.

UM, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT, BUT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE ONE, UM, ONE PROJECT THAT'S NEEDING A HEARING FOR A VARIANCE.

SO YES.

UH, WHEN FIRE MARSH TAYLOR STATED HE HAD EIGHT, UM, APPLICANTS WHO WERE ALL QUALIFIED AND WITH IT BEING A VOLUNTEER BOARD, HE ASKED TO LOOK IN THE POCKET EXPANDING THE SIZE OF THE BOARD SO THAT ABSENCES WOULDN'T BREAK QUORUM.

RIGHT.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS DID.

THE O UM, THE ONLY OTHER CHANGES TO THE FIRE CODE, WERE LITERALLY IN THE DOCUMENT, JUST CHANGE THE FORMATTING SO THAT WHEN YOU APPROVE, UH, ANY FUTURE CHANGES LIKE CHAPTER ONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE 80 PAGE DOCUMENT, YOU'LL PACKET IT.

YOU'D ONLY GET AN INCLUDE THAT ONE.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE FORMER DOCUMENT WAS JUST A CONTINUOUS DOCUMENT SO IT CHANGED THE FORMAT.

SO LITERALLY THAT'S WHY THE WHOLE DOCUMENT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

THE ONLY THING THAT WAS TOUCHED WAS D .

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

NOW I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER LANE, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

AGAIN DISCUSS, CONSIDER AN APPROVE OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE KAMAN COUNTY BOARD OF APPEALS IN RELATION TO THE BOARD OF APPEALS PURSUANT TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY FIRE CODE.

MOTION CARRIE.

HEY MIKE, ONCE

[14. Mike Taylor: Discuss/Consider/Approve appointments to Kaufman County Board of Appeals, in relation to Board of Appeals pursuant to Kaufman County Fire Code.]

SO, SO OBVIOUSLY NOW I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY APPOINT AND APPROVE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UM, THAT HAD PUT IN THEIR APPLICATIONS WITH US AND TO GO FORTH WITH THIS, THE, THE WAY THAT FROM WHEN WORKING WITH BRAD AND THAT WE DID THIS.

UH, SO THE WAY THESE, UH, TERMS GO THROUGH HERE IS THAT, UM, THE FIRST SET OF THE TERMS WE HAVE, WELL, WE WANTED THE TERMS TO BE OFFSET SO THAT WE'RE NOT REPLACING THE WHOLE COURT IN THERE.

SO THE FIRST PART I BELIEVE IS A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THEN THE SECOND AND THEN THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER FOUR IS FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, BUT WITH THAT ONE YEAR STOPPING AFTER THE FIRST APPOINTMENT, AND THEN THAT WILL CONTINUE AS A TWO.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THESE WERE ALL QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND SEEMED VERY EAGER THAT, UH, THEY WANNA, UH, COME ON AND BE A PART.

AND TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS BOARD IS, UH, THERE IS NO COMPENSATION FOR THIS BOARD WITH THE COUNTY, IN FACT, AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY AN AREA THAT THESE ARE, UM, THAT NOBODY THAT IS ON THIS BOARD IS A, UH, EMPLOYEE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A TRUE INDEPENDENT BOARD.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE APPEALING.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL MAKE MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES A SECOND.

I SECOND.

OKAY, MR. JEREMY, YOU'RE

[15. Jeremy Mungin: Discuss/Consider/Approve the submittal of the Kaufman County MS4 Stormwater Management Plan to the TCEQ, filing of the Notice of Intent and associated fees.]

NEXT.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE SUBMITTAL OF KAUFMAN COUNTY MS FOUR SOFTWARE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO THE TCEQ FILING OF THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO ASSOCIATED FEES.

UH, TO CLARIFY, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.

UH, OKAY.

UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO YES, WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL TO IMPLEMENT OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND TO SUBMIT OUR NRIS WITH THE COMPANY FEES, UH, TO TECQ.

UM, JUST A BRIEF HISTORY, WE DID APPLY FOR A WAIVER WHICH EXPIRED IN 2019, UH, FROM TECQ AS A GOVERNING, UH, MUNICIPAL BODY, WE ARE REQUIRED BY TECQ TO, UH, PRETTY MUCH IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN TO MONITOR OUR PAIRED WATERS WITHIN THE COUNTY, UM, IN WHICH WE'RE SEEKING TO.

UM, NOW, UH, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN REGARDS TO OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, OUR IMPLEMENTATION, SOPS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP IN WHICH WE CAN GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL WITH YOU GUYS.

UH, SO ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT, THAT WILL BE COVERED THEN.

UM, BUT YES, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SEEKING APPROVAL TO SUBMIT OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.

OTHERWISE, WITH THE ASSOCIATED FEES, WELL, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.

WE HAVE TO DO SO.

AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP LATER TO DISCUSS FEES.

YES, SIR.

YES, WE, WE, WE COULD HAVE APPLIED FOR A WAIVER, BUT SINCE WE'VE BEEN EXPIRED SINCE 2019, WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS GOING ON.

THAT WOULDN'T LOOK GOOD.

WE, OUR GROWTH, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND WENT COURSE WITH THE PERMIT, BUT THIS IS JUST TO SUBMIT AND THE DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY 11TH.

IF WE DID NOT DO THIS, WE COULD HAVE BEEN PENALIZED AND FINED BACK TO 2019.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. UH, CROW DOWN THERE.

MAKE A SECOND.

LEAVE, THESE HAVE TO BE SIGNED AND, AND GIVEN BACK TO MONIQUE.

MOTION, SIR.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE TO SIGN ALL THESE.

SO BEFORE WE

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16, JERRY, ONCE AGAIN DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE OF SIGNING THE COUNTY JUDGE AS A DESIGNATED SIGNATORY AUTHORITY FOR THE SUBMITTAL OF THE NOTICE OF INTENT.

NUMBER

[16. Jeremy Mungin: Discuss/Consider/Approve assigning the County Judge as the designated signatory authority for the submittal of the Notice of Intent]

SO AS A REQUIREMENT OF T-S-T-E-C-Q, WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE OFFICER AS THE POINT OF CONTACT.

SO INSTEAD OF SETTING UP NUMEROUS ACCOUNTS, WE FIGURED WE COULD DESIGNATE THE JUDGE AS THE OFFICIAL SIGNEE JUST TO MAKE IT CLEANER.

NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND .

MR. L MAKES THE SECOND.

A MOTION CARRIES.

WELL, THAT MAKES ALL THE FLOOD PROBLEMS IS PROBLEM OFFICIALLY DID THAT.

WE'LL RIGHT HERE.

FLOOD PROBLEMS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

BR 5 49 .

SO WE WILL HAVE TO COME SEE YOU AND, AND LOG YOU INTO THE SYSTEM AND YOU WILL BE THE ELECTORAL SIGNATURE.

OKAY? OKAY.

SO WE WILL BE VISITING, OKAY.

MERCY .

WE DO NOT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY, SO IT'S UP TO YOU ALL WAY

[21. Adjourn Meeting.]

DOWN THERE.

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

DON'T YOU MIND? MR. PHIL MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.