* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. To discuss the FY25-26 budget.] [00:00:11] OKAY. WHENEVER YOU GET HER ON, WE'LL GET STARTED. OKAY. ROBERT, COME ON. YOU'LL BE NUMBER ONE TODAY. THEY HAVE THIS, RANDY? YES, THEY OKAY. ALRIGHT. I PRINTED THEM JUST IN CASE. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. SO, WITH UH, VETERAN SERVICES THIS YEAR, WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OUR OVERALL BUDGET. UM, WE ARE, THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO TRY, UM, TO UTILIZE MAINTENANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE GONNA FUND THE PROJECTS. UM, WE FOUND THAT THIS YEAR, UH, WORKING WITH MAINTENANCE, WHICH THEY WERE AWESOME, BUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH FOR, BECAUSE OF BUDGETS, THEY COULDN'T SIGN FOR SOMETHING, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO ME. SO THIS YEAR, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY, FACILITIES MAINTAINS IT. WE JUST SIMPLY SUBMIT THE WORK ORDER OR THE REQUEST OF WHAT WE NEED AND THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT FROM THERE. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, UH, MAINTENANCE OF VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK HAS BEEN DROPPED ALL THE WAY TO BASICALLY ZERO. OKAY. UM, WE WILL NOT FUND THAT LINE ITEM ANY LONGER. UM, THE OTHER LINE ITEMS I'VE REQUESTED NO INCREASES IN, IN REALLY ANYTHING. UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD DRAW ATTENTION TO, AND THIS WAS, UM, WE, I TALKED WITH MRS. BRANDY, THE, UH, MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEMS WE'RE TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THOSE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. YES. UH, WE WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, AS BRANDY EXPLAINED IT TO ME, WE WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, A DEFINITIVE WHERE THAT MONEY'S GOING. SO IN TALKING WITH HER, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A LINE ITEM CALLED OPERATIONAL COST OF VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK. AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL USE, UH, THAT LINE ITEM WILL BE USED TO BUY OUR FLAGS, WILL BE USED TO BUY, UH, PLAQUES AND, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO FOR OUR CER CEREMONIES, UH, FLOWERS, GUEST SPEAKER, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UH, AS WELL AS, UH, WE ARE DOWN NOW TO PROBABLY ABOUT 10 COINS LEFT. SO I'M GONNA BE MAKING A NEW COIN ORDER. UM, AND THE COIN ORDER HAS TO BE CHANGED THIS YEAR OR THIS, THIS ROUND BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED THE SPACE FORCE SINCE THE ORIGINAL CREATION OF OUR COIN. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO I'M DESIGNING A WHOLE NEW COIN. I JUST GOT, UH, UH, JUST GOT THE, UH, THE, UH, THE DEMO. UH, IT'S NOT THE DEMO, BUT WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEMO PROTOTYPE, THE PROOF, THANK YOU. THE PROOF, PROOF. I GOT THE PROOF, UH, BACK FROM THEM AND I'VE SENT IT BACK WITH SOME CORRECTIONS OR SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE TO THAT. OKAY. SO I'LL BE BRINGING THAT IN JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT THE NEW COIN WILL LOOK LIKE. UH, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT, UH, I NEEDED ATTENTION TO BE DRAWN TO, UM, WAS THAT MY LINE ITEM, UH, 4 4 0 3 8 0, WHICH WAS FOR, UH, SOFTWARE ON THE BUDGET THAT WAS SENT TO US THAT WAS GRAYED OUT TYPICALLY, MEANING WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN THERE. AND WHEN I SPOKE WITH MS. BRANDY, SHE TOLD ME JUST TO PUT THAT ON THE SECOND PAGE BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOLLARS OR THOSE DOLLARS PAY FOR VET PRO, WHICH IS THE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE TO DO ALL OF OUR VETERAN ACTIONS NOW WE DO DIRECT SUBMITS TO THE VA. SO THAT, THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A GODSEND. I I WE LOVE, I LOVE IT. IT'S TREMENDOUS. IT'S PHENOMENAL. I DON'T WANNA BE WITHOUT IT. SO, UM, SHE TOLD ME JUST TO PUT IT IN THERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S GRAYED OUT AND THEN JUST GIVE YOU A NOTE, UH, ON THIS SECOND PAGE AS TO WHAT THAT WAS FOR SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD THEN DETERMINE HOW YOU WERE GOING TO DO IT. SO, UH, AND REALLY, IF THAT'S IT, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE DOING AWAY WITH MISCELLANEOUS, THAT'S LIKE A KIND OF A SLUSH FUND. YES, SIR. AND SO WE NEED TO BE MORE PRECISE WITH WHERE WE'RE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS AND YOU'VE LISTED BACK HERE ON THE BACK AND YOU'VE GOT IT, UH, VERY DETAILED. IT MAY BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT YET WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING FOR INSTEAD OF WELL, WHAT YOU DOING WITH ALL THAT MONEY? ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND SO I'M GLAD YOU GOT THAT LINE ITEM SET UP AND UH, WE KNOW NOW WHERE YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYERS. YES, SIR. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. NO, I UNDERSTOOD COMPLETELY WHEN SHE TOLD ME. SO YEAH, THE SOFTWARE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE STILL GONNA BE PAYING FOR. YES. IT, IT'S INCLUDED. OKAY. WE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT AND I PUT ON OUR COPY. OKAY. WE DID MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT. UM, OKAY. MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS . ALRIGHT, GOOD DEAL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ROBERT? ANYONE? THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. YEP. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ROBERT. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY. OKAY. UHHUH TALKING. MISS DESIREE, MS. NEXT [00:05:06] GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? MORNING THIS MORNING. MORNING. I'M GOOD. UH, SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR MUCH AT ALL. UH, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE IS I DID ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN MY TRAINING EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE LINE ITEM. UH, DURING OUR TICA MEETING THEY DID MENTION THAT THE DUES ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY DID NOT INDICATE HOW MUCH, SO I JUST PUT A NUMBER IN THERE. IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH, THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE TO MOVE AROUND. UM, AND THEN MY 3% ON MY YEARLY FOR MY LEXUS NEXUS AND THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT EVERY YEAR IT GOES UP. SO WE HAVE NO CHOICE THERE. YES. SO YOU'RE ONLY GOING FROM A THOUSAND TO $1,200 BASICALLY 200 BUCKS. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. , THAT'S PRETTY MINIMAL . OKAY. OKAY. WE GOOD? ANY QUESTIONS? YOU GO? ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OPERATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEP. ANYTHING. TWO NEW GUYS. GOOD. THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME. ANYTIME Y'ALL WANNA COME IN THE OFFICE AND SIT WITH ME AND I CAN GO OVER WHAT WE DO AND HOW THINGS WORK, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. YES. I LOVE, I LOVE IT WHEN Y'ALL COME AND VISIT AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. YES, THEY DO. WITH ALL OF OUR FOLKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU REALLY DO. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU BET. IT'S AN IMPORTANT JOB. YEAH, IT IS. I'M, I'M GOING. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. ALRIGHT, NOW WE HAVE THE TIME ALLOTMENT SET FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND UP HERE. SUPPOSED TO BE SEAN. YES. AND I'VE GOTTEN A HOLD OF EVERYBODY. THEY'RE ALL ON THEIR WAY. WELL, I JUST HAVE SEAN DOWN FOR 10, I MEAN 11 O'CLOCK EARLY. OKAY. OH, SO I DON'T HAVE VANESSA, I DON'T EVEN HAVE YOU ON HERE TODAY. TOMORROW, TOMORROW, THURSDAY. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU JUST WANNA COME SEE US? IS THAT YEAH, I'M . YEAH. RIGHT. , THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP YOU. I'M TELLING. OKAY. I'M SEEING MY COMMISSIONER . THEY'RE ALL RUNNING FROM YOU SCHEDULE YET. WHAT'D YOU DO? OKAY. RIGHT. DON'T MATTER TO ME. YES, PLEASE. WHATEVER MAKES YOUR LIFE EASIER, LEMME FIND YOU. THERE WE ARE. OKAY, Y'ALL READY? GOOD MORNING, MS. TANDY. GOOD MORNING. YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR BOAT. I DO HAVE A LOT ON MY BOAT. MY BOAT'S BIG SHIP. THIS SINK. THAT SHIP'S NOT SINKING. GETTING HEAVY. IT'S GETTING REAL HEAVY. IT'S GETTING REAL HEAVY. UM, BUT I HAD SENT YOU GENTLEMEN THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF THIS SO THAT YOU COULD ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. UH, WE DID, I DID REVIEW A LOT OF THIS WITH BRANDY IN THE OFFER IN MY OFFICE. SHE'S VERY KIND TO COME OVER AND HELP US WITH THAT. UM, TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS WILL WORK. I DON'T MISS ANYTHING. UH, BUT DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PERFORMANCE MEASURES AS FAR AS THINGS OUR OFFICE'S OUTPUT, HOW WE'RE DOING THAT BRING US UP TO DATE ON ALL THE LEGISLATION THAT JUST HAPPENED, WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO DO WITH VOTING MACHINES. WE'RE GONNA GET TO KEEP THE VOTING CENTERS, I ASSUME. IT LOOKS LIKE IT. WE WERE VERY YEARS, WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE WERE SUCCESSFUL TO KEEP THE VOTE CENTERS. YES. THERE'S SOME OTHER LEGISLATION THAT HAS PASSED, UM, THAT WE REALLY TRIED TO ASSIST WITH THAT IT JUST WAS NOT HEARD. I UNDERSTAND. AND, AND THAT HAPPENS. SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. BUT OUT OF 590 ELECTION BILLS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF TRACKING IN THE OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 49 ARE GOING TO THE GOVERNOR. SO I'M JUST WAITING ON THE LAST OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS TO COME IN. BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT FORMS, CHANGES, BALLOT BY MAIL APPLICATION CHANGES THE INSTRUCTIONS. THEY'RE CHANGING THOSE FONTS ON THERE. IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE, THE FONT'S PRETTY TINY. YEP. UM, SO NOW THEY REQUIRE IT TO BE A 12 POINT FONT OR LARGER. IT HAS TO BE BLACK TEXT, CAN'T HAVE ANY HIGHLIGHTED COLOR TEXT, ANY REMINDERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT FORM CHANGE. UM, WITH THE EXECUTIVE ORDER FROM THE PRESIDENT, UM, WE ARE STILL AWAITING ADVISEMENT FROM THE EAC ON WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE OUR CURRENT VOTING EQUIPMENT. WHILE OUR CURRENT VOTING EQUIPMENT IS A PAPER BALLOT, IT DOES CONTAIN A BARCODE. [00:10:01] AND PART OF THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER PROHIBITS THOSE BARCODES. SO NOW THE DETERMINATION TRYING TO BE MADE IS HOW MUCH THE EAC IS GONNA SAY. AND THAT'S THE ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION HAS TO BE DONE BASED ON THIS ORDER, WHAT'S LAWFUL AND WHAT'S NOT. SO THERE'S STILL IN SOME ARGUMENTS ABOUT THAT. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY FINAL DIRECTIVES ON THAT. WE DO KNOW BASED ON THAT ORDER THAT THE FPCA, WHICH IS THE FEDERAL POSTCARD APPLICATIONS FOR OUR MILITARY VETERANS, IS GONNA BE CHANGING. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FORMS CHANGE AS WELL AS THE VOTER REGISTRATION APPLICATION. SO QUITE A FEW FORMS CHANGES, UM, WITH SOME OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED. WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING BY 2027, OUR WORKERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE ASKED TO WORK ON HOLIDAYS UNLESS BY SOME MIRACULOUS OCCURRENCE, SB 27 53 IS REPEALED IN THE 2027 90TH LEGISLATURE. NOT A FAN OF THAT. UH, YEAH. I, I, A LOT OF MY VETERANS THAT ARE WORKERS AT OUR POLLING LOCATIONS ARE NOT GONNA GIVE UP THEIR MEMORIAL DAY TO HOLD VOTING FOR A PRIMARY RUNOFF ELECTION, WHICH AS WE KNOW, THAT'S WHEN THAT ELECTION OCCURS. YEAH. DID THEY SHORTEN THE EARLY VOTING TIME OR THAT PASSED OR NOT? THEY DID NOT. THEY DID NOT. UH, SO WE WILL CONTINUE OUR VOTING TIMES FOR OUR POPULATION. THAT WASN'T GOING TO AFFECT US. UM, I DON'T MIND BEING OUT THERE FOR OUR VOTERS. MY BIGGER CONCERN IS GONNA BE THE BILLS THAT ARE LOOKING TO PUSH THE VOTING PERIOD TO 12 STRAIGHT DAYS AND ELIMINATE THAT BREAK BETWEEN EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY. THAT'S A CRITICAL PERIOD FOR US, ESPECIALLY FINDING RETIRED PEOPLE WHO WORK THESE POLLS. THEY COULD DO IT 12 DAYS IN A ROW WITHOUT JUST REALLY GIVING OUT. YES. THE, THE ONES THAT WE DO HAVE DO THIS, OUR DEDICATED, UM, WORKERS THAT ARE SENIORS, THEY NEEDED THAT TWO DAY BREAK BETWEEN FINISHING EARLY VOTING AND THEN COMING TO GET THEIR SUPPLIES TO SET UP FOR ELECTION DAY. EVEN THE YOUNG WORKERS ARE TIRED. IT'S NOT JUST OUR SENIOR WORKERS. SO WHAT IN THE LEGISLATION IS GOING TO CAUSE US DOLLARS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN SPENDING IN THE PAST. UH, THE FORMS CHANGES ARE GONNA BE A ONE-TIME HIT. OKAY. SO WE CAN KIND OF WORK AROUND THAT. UH, I HAD ACCOUNTED FOR SOME OF THAT IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE IF THE STATE RELEASES, THEN BY AUGUST I CAN EXPEND THOSE FUNDS OUTTA MY CURRENT PRINTING BUDGET. OKAY. BUT SOME OF THOSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO. WHAT WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS EAC, THE A A C DIRECTIVE BASED ON THAT PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER. IF THEY TELL US WE CAN NO LONGER USE THIS BARCODED SYSTEM, WE WOULD HAVE TO A, REPLACE THE SYSTEM OR B, GET AN ENTIRELY NEW SYSTEM FROM A DIFFERENT VENDOR. WELL, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MACHINES IF EVERYONE HAS TO GO REPLACE MACHINES, THEY'RE JUST NOT THERE. AND WHAT WE DO, OUR CURRENT VENDOR SAYS THERE'S A BALLOT ON DEMAND OPTION, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE US TO ADD A PHYSICAL PRINTER IN EVERY POLL. BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT SIMPLE. WHEN YOU PUT THOSE TYPES OF ACCESSORIES IN A POLLING LOCATION, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR PRE SERIALIZED BALLOTS THAT HAVE TO GO OUT WITH THEM. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INK SO THAT IF A BUSY LOCATION RUNS OUTTA INK, THEY CAN FIX IT. UM, BALLOT ON DEMAND PRINTERS WORK GREAT FOR SOME SMALLER COUNTIES, SOME LARGER JURISDICTIONS, BUT THAT'S A LEARNING CURVE FOR OUR WORKERS. OKAY. AND IT IS NOT, UM, FISCALLY, IT'S NOT WHAT I CALL CONSIDER A CHEAP OPTION EITHER. YEAH. OKAY. SO FOR YOUR REQUEST FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, YOU'VE GOT BOATING EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE ASKING FOR $215,000. I'M ASKING TO, WE'RE CARRYING OVER SOME FUNDS. OKAY. CAN I EXPLAIN THAT REAL QUICK? YES. BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF A NEW CONCEPT WITH THE NEW FINANCIAL SOFTWARE. UM, SO ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS CO CONSIDERED A ROLLING LINE ITEM. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHATEVER'S LEFT IN THAT BUDGET WILL AUTOMATICALLY ROLL OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. OKAY. AND SO IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE END OF HER, UM, TWO, THREE PAGES BACK, IT HAS CONTINGENCY ROLLING LINE ITEMS, BUT LISTED OUT AND HERS ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. YES. UM, IT SHOWS THE ESTIMATED ROLLING AMOUNT FOR THE EQUIPMENT VOTING IS CARRIED OVER $50,000. AND THEN THE ESTIMATED SOFTWARE VO-TECH IS CARRYING OVER $130,000. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA BE KEEPING THOSE ROLLING LINE ITEMS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE CONTINGENCY FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES. AND THEN ONCE THE YEAR'S CLOSED, THAT MONEY WILL ROLL INTO THAT ASSOCIATED LINE ITEM. OKAY. SO AT THE MOMENT WE'RE BUDGETING, FOR EXAMPLE, EQUIPMENT. VOTING EQUIPMENT, WE'RE BUDGETING THE 50,000 THAT WILL ROLL OVER PLUS THE ADDITIONAL 215,000. [00:15:02] OKAY. NO, GOT IT. THAT IS BASED ON TODAY WHAT SHE HAS CURRENTLY TODAY. RIGHT. NOT OCTOBER 1ST. CORRECT. THAT'S ACTUALLY TODAY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES COMING OUT OF THAT EXCEPT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THREE PRINTERS. IF WE FIND OUT THE WARRANTY IS NO LONGER VALID. RIGHT. OKAY. SO IT IS A PROJECTION, BUT IT'S, IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY ACCURATE. YEAH. WE TRY TO BE REALLY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. AS YOU CAN TELL FROM WHERE WE ARE IN OUR SIX MONTH BUDGET. WE DON'T JUST SPEND IT BECAUSE WE HAVE IT. EXACTLY. WE TRY TO KEEP IT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW. UM, THE REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT ROLLING OVER THAT 130,000 IS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE LOOKING TO REPLACE OUR E POLL BOOKS THIS YEAR WITH THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND US ASSUMING WE MAY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE TO REPLACE ACTUAL VOTING EQUIPMENT. YES. INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THAT PURCHASE, I WAS GONNA SPEAK TO YOU GENTLEMEN AND SAY, DO WE WANNA HOLD ONTO THIS MONEY FOR WHAT WE MAY HAVE TO BUY? OR DO WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THESE POLL BOOKS? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO VERY QUICKLY AHEAD OF NOVEMBER'S ELECTION. AND YOU AND I HAVE VISITED ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM . AND MY THINKING IS IF IT'S STILL WORKING RIGHT NOW, DON'T SPEND THE MONEY, HOLD IT. THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE THE MONEY. YES. IF SOMETHING CHANGES, THEN WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. CORRECT. OTHERWISE, CORRECT. WE KNOW THERE'S A FEW UNITS THAT WILL NEED TO REPLACE THE LAPTOPS. THE GOOD THING IS WITH REPLACING THE LAPTOPS, SHOULD WE EVER GO TO A NEW SYSTEM, THOSE LAPTOPS CAN BE DISPERSED TO IT AND USED IN DIFFERENT OFFICES. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY'RE WELL-FUNCTIONING LAPTOPS WHEN THEY'RE REPLACED. OKAY. IT'S JUST THESE HAVE AGED OUT OF REPAIR. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? UM, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAD LISTED AS REQUESTS. OKAY, GO AHEAD. WE HAD, UH, LISTED AN INCREASE IN OUR ELECTION JUDGE AND CLERK'S SALARIES OF $2 PER HOUR RESPECTIVELY TO MAKE THE JUDGE $18 AN HOUR AND THE $16 AN HOUR TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER COUNTIES. AND ALSO THESE INDIVIDUALS PART-TIME JOBS. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE TAKE OFF OF THEIR PART-TIME JOBS AND THEY'RE TAKING PAY CUTS TO DO THAT. AND SOME OF THEM NO LONGER WISH TO DO THAT. SO IF WE WANNA KEEP OUR WORKFORCE, WE, WE NEED TO CONSIDER UPPING THAT SCALE TO THAT. UM, I DO WANNA REMIND YOU THAT WHEN IT IS AN ELECTION, THAT COST IS REIMBURSED BY THE PARTICIPATING ENTITIES. SO IT'S NOT A COST THAT THE COUNTY BEARS ON ITS OWN. UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO UPGRADE AND REPLACE LAPTOPS INSIDE OF OUR OFFICE. FOR MYSELF AND MY DEPUTY, WE JUST NEED A HIGHER FUNCTIONING LAPTOP FOR PERFORMANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR DESKTOP. WE TAKE IT WITH US EVERYWHERE WE GO. RIGHT. UM, I REQUESTED A, THE ADDITION OF A CELL PHONE STIPEND FOR THE CHIEF DEPUTY BECAUSE DURING ELECTION SEASON SHE USES HER PHONE JUST AS MUCH AS I DO. OUR PHONES JUST DON'T STOP RINGING. SO THAT WOULD BE A COST OF $75 A MONTH, WHICH IS $900 FOR THE YEAR. UM, I PROVIDED A BREAKDOWN OF CONSIDERING A CAR ALLOWANCE FOR MYSELF. I LISTED THE COUNTIES SIMILAR TO SIZE AND OURS OR EVEN SMALLER THAT DO THIS. I HIGHLIGHTED THE TWO THAT ARE CLOSEST TO US. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, LET ME KNOW. WE'RE REQUESTING THE PURCHASE OF AN ELECTION MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE CALLED ELECT TASK. IT'S GONNA ELIMINATE SOME PAPER CHECKOFF LISTS, STREAMLINE OUR STAFF ASSIGNMENTS. IT'LL ACTUALLY GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO CLICK ON A TASK WHEN IT'S DONE AND IT'LL TURN IT GREEN SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IS DONE AND WHAT IS STILL PENDING WITHOUT SEARCHING FOR THE MAGICAL PAPER CHECKOFF SHEET. IS THAT ON THIS? I DON'T SEE THAT ON HERE. NO. HER SUB, HER SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION IS BEHIND HER REQUEST, BUT YES, IT IS ON HERE AS WELL. ON THIS ONE. ON PAGE TWO. YEP. UNDER THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT. ON TWO OF FIVE. TWO OF FIVE. YES SIR. I SEE THE PAY ADJUSTMENT FOR THE JUDGES. ADDITIONAL JUDGES AND CLERKS, PART-TIME EMPLOYEE CONTACT TRACK CHIEF DEPUTY IN ELECTIONS. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THIS IN MY EMAIL. IT'S BEHIND HER. JUDGE, LET ME KEEP GOING HERE. HOLD ON. YOU SAY TWO? I'M GONNA STAY ON TWO. THAT'S OKAY. THE ONE THAT SHE'S LOOKING AT IS ACTUALLY BEHIND HER BUDGET. BEHIND HER BUDGET PACKET. TOO MANY PAGES HERE. . SORRY, I TRIED TO MAKE IT BREAKDOWN. SIMPLE. I PROMISE. OKAY. YEP. WE ARE SEEKING THE PURCHASE OF TWO VEHICLES. OUR EXISTING LEASE OF OUR SMALL VAN EXPIRES DECEMBER. SO WE WANNA REPLACE THAT WITH A SUBURBAN THAT IS FOUR WHEEL DRIVE BECAUSE WE ARE OUT IN HAZARDOUS ROAD CONDITIONS. [00:20:01] UM, THAT HAPPENED TO US 2022 AND WE'RE OUT DRIVING AROUND IN ICE AND SNOW BECAUSE POLLING LOCATIONS WERE KEPT OPEN DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER. AND WE ALSO DID THAT IN MAY OF 28TH. MAY 28TH, 2024 WHEN WE HAD THE TORNADOES THAT CAME THROUGH, DRIVING THROUGH HARD WATER, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE HAVE ONE VAN, IF I DEPLOY ALL MY STAFF, THEY'RE IN THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES AND THEY'RE NOT PROTECTED. THEY'RE HOW MANY MILES ARE ON THAT VAN? IT'S A LEASE VAN. THAT LEASE VAN'S GOT ABOUT 25,000 ON IT I BELIEVE. BUT WE'VE ALSO ENCUMBERED MONEY FROM THAT LEASE BECAUSE WE CHARGE BACK ANY MILEAGE THAT WE USE ON THOSE VEHICLES TO THE CONTRACTED ELECTION THAT IT'S BEING USED FOR. ZELLE. CAN YOU CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S EASIER? WHAT IF WE PURCHASED THAT VAN? WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION WITH, WE DON'T HAVE OPTION. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION. NOT ON WHAT LEASE PLAN SELL TO US. THAT'S PATHETIC. THOSE ARE NOT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE WANT TO REPLACE THAT EX THAT LEASE THAT'S GONNA EXPIRE WITH A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SUBURBAN A FOR MORE ROOM FOR STAFF WHEN WE GO ON TRIPS. AND B, BECAUSE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE'S GONNA BE ESSENTIAL NEXT YEAR. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE OPEN IN ANY INCLEMENT WEATHER OR IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER STORMS. UM, WE WANNA ADD A SECOND VEHICLE SO THAT I DON'T HAVE STAFF DRIVING AROUND OUT IN THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES. WHEN YOU HAVE 26 LOCATIONS OPEN AND YOU HAVE FOUR LOCATIONS WHO MAY HAVE AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS RESPONDING TO AND THEY'RE ON OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE COUNTY, YOU CAN'T SEND JUST ONE VEHICLE. UH, WE DON'T LIKE TO TAKE AND MAKE ANYBODY WAIT WHEN THEY NEED ASSISTANCE. IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN'T WALK THEM THROUGH BY THE PHONE, WE GET IN A CAR AND WE GO FIX IT. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT. WE ARE ALSO ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER A DIRECT WEBPAGE, UM, SLASH VOTER EDUCATION PORTAL WITH THE ABILITY TO FOCUS SOLELY ON ELECTIONS. WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND OUR WEBPAGE. THEY CAN'T FIND THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBPAGE. WHY DO I HAVE TO CLICK SO MANY TIMES? WHY CAN'T I SEE A PERSONAL SAMPLE BALLOT LIKE I COULD IN MY OLD COUNTY? WE, WE'VE GOTTEN ALL OF THOSE COMPLAINTS, MULTIPLES OF THEM. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, THE IMPLEMENTATION AND FIRST YEAR FEE FOR THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $30,000 AFTER THAT. IT WOULD BE JUST A $6,000 ANNUAL FEE TO RUN THAT PORTAL. SO THAT IS ON THAT. OKAY. ANOTHER PORTION WE WERE LOOKING AT IS AN ONLINE TRAINING PORTAL FOR ELECTION WORKERS. THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO VIRTUALLY TRAIN ELECTION WORKERS. THAT WORKS WELL WHEN WE CAN'T HOST IN-PERSON CLASSES IF WE CAN'T GET A ROOM OR IF THERE ARE LAST MINUTE CANCELLATIONS AND SOMEBODY CAN'T GET TO AN IN-PERSON CLASS DUE TO FAMILY MATTERS, FLOOD, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, THE HOSTING LICENSE, IMPLEMENTATION SUPPORT AND THE SUBSCRIPTION FOR A FULL YEAR. AND THIS IS FOR A CUSTOM ONSITE. THEY COME IN, THEY VIDEO OUR EQUIPMENT, THEY VIDEO OUR TASK. IT'S STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS WITH QUIZZES ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THE PERSON'S RETAINING THE INFORMATION. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT $38,000 FOR THE INITIAL SETUP AND FIRST YEAR AND $8,000 THEREAFTER TO MAINTAIN THAT PORTAL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED ALREADY THE ROLLOVER OF THE LINE ITEMS. UM, I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM WAS BEING DELETED FROM THE COUNTY MM-HMM . COUNTYWIDE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT. HOWEVER, WE HAD ALLOCATED ITEMS IN THAT MISCELLANEOUS THAT I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BREAK OUT INTO NEW LINE ITEMS. OKAY. ONE OF THEM IS GONNA BE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION BECAUSE WE DO OUR POLL WORKER APPRECIATION THINGS WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE. THOSE LAST WEEK'S, 14, 16 HOURS A DAY, WE LIKE TO TAKE THEM EITHER A LUNCH OR A BREAKFAST. AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE LIKE TO HOST A LUNCHEON OR DINNER FOR THEM. SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT LINE ITEM AS WELL AS A UNIFORM LINE ITEM FOR EMPLOYEE SHIRTS AND JACKETS FOR FULL-TIME STAFF. YOU TALKING ABOUT FULL-TIME STAFF, NOT PART-TIME. CORRECT. AND AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A POLO SHIRT TYPE THING? POLO SHIRTS. YEAH. POLO SHIRTS SOMETIMES WE HAVE DONE, UM, THE T-SHIRT TOP SHIRTS LIKE A FOOTBALL KIND OF JERSEY THAT SAYS KAUFMAN COUNTY ELECTIONS. ASK ME HOW TO REGISTER TO VOTE. OKAY. THINGS LIKE THAT. KEEP, KEEP PUBLIC ENGAGED. OKAY. WHAT ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BARCODE THING THAT, THAT OURS PRINTS OUT, YOU KNOW, THE BARCODE AND HOW TO, HOW WOULD IT READ IT IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A BARCODE? WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE OUR EXISTING EQUIPMENT. YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE IT ALL. BRAND [00:25:01] NEW EQUIPMENT, CORRECT. YEAH. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE MARKING DEVICES. COULD STILL USE THE IF SCANNERS WE DON'T GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT YET. RIGHT. UM, WE COULD STILL USE THE LARGE SCANNERS BY USING A PRE-PRINTED OR ON DEMAND BALLOT, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE MARKING DEVICES. IF THAT GOES THROUGH, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD. NO. UM, I HAVE TALKED WITH OUR VENDOR AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA FORCE US TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. Y'ALL FORCE GIVE US THE MONEY TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT. YEAH, EXACTLY. WELL, NOT YES AND NO . YES AND NO. BUT I DID SPEAK WITH OUR VENDOR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE PURCHASED A HUNDRED OF THOSE TWO YEARS AGO IN PREPARATION IN THIS PRIMARY, UM, LAST YEAR I SPOKE WITH THE VENDOR AND HE SAID HE WOULD TALK TO HIS COMPANY AND SEE IF THIS GETS PUSHED THROUGH, COULD WE TAKE OUR NEXT TWO PAYMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY OFF THAT EQUIPMENT AND APPLY THEM TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A BALLOT ON DEMAND SYSTEM TO GET US THROUGH. SO, OKAY. THAT, THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA COVER THE WHOLE CAST. OH NO. NO WAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN? THE ONLY OTHER THINGS I WANNA MAKE THE COUNTY AWARE OF IS FOR POSTAGE, POSTAGE RATES KEEP GOING UP. OUR ITEMS ARE GETTING LARGER. SO CONSIDER ADDING ADDITIONAL POSTAGE TO YOUR COUNTY ALLOTTED FUNDS FOR THAT. AND ALSO, UM, YOUR LEGAL NOTICE LINE ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU BUDGET FOR THAT OR IF IT JUST COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND ITSELF, BUT YOU'LL ALSO WANNA MAKE SOME INCREASES ON THAT BECAUSE WITH THE PRIMARIES, THAT'S NOT A REIMBURSABLE ITEM WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE. THAT'S AT OUR COST. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALSO WHY YOU SEE LARGER SALARY ITEMS THIS BUDGET YEAR THAN LAST BUDGET YEAR IS BECAUSE OUR JUDGES AND CLERKS FOR EARLY VOTING FOR THE PRIMARY ELECTIONS, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. THE STATE DOES NOT REIMBURSE THOSE. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN COST IN THAT LINE ITEM. EVERYTHING'S GOING UP AND WE'RE NOT BEING ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE. YES SIR. BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. WE'RE GONNA TRY ASK FOR ADDITIONAL PART-TIME HELP TO GET US BY THESE CHANGES AFFECT A LOT OF THE WORKFLOWS IN OUR OFFICE. UM, CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO POST, TRACK DO OR THE WAY EVERYTHING'S SHIFTING. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP ON T TRUCKING THROUGH. YEAH. THIS IS WHAT IT IS. IT IS. SO. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE GUYS? Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? NO. UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ROUND. SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST ROUND. SO STANDBY. STANDBY. WHEN'S THE SECOND ROUND? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE WON'T GET OUR FINALS TILL THE END OF 25TH OF JULY, OUR NUMBERS. AND SO THERE WERE 21,600 PROTESTS FILED. THAT'S A LOT OF DOLLARS. NO DOUBT. SO WE WILL SOON FIND OUT . ALL RIGHT. WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN VERY MUCH. THANK YOU TANDY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHO WE GOT NEXT? SEAN? YES SIR. I THINK YOU'RE UP NEXT. LET ME GET TO YOURS HERE. THIS LEMME GET OVER TO THIS ONE HERE. MORNING. OKAY. Y'ALL READY? YEP. YOU GOT YOUR PAGES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. I THINK ALL I HAVE IS THREE ITEMS ON OUR BUDGET. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS GONNA BE AN INCREASE IN THE, UM, SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE LINE ITEM. WE HAVE A RECURRING COST WITH THE TASER SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH. SO I THINK IT WENT FROM 1400 TO, I THINK IT'LL BE 3,500 TO COVER THAT RECURRING COST. I DON'T DOUBT THAT. UH, THE SECOND IS OUR MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM THAT WE HAD, UH, PER BRANDY. WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING TO MOVE ALL OF THAT OVER INTO THE EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM. SO WHAT DID YOU SPEND MISCELLANEOUS ON LAST YEAR? DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS SPENT? IT IS THERE. $9,278 AND FY 24. 9,278. OKAY. IT WAS FOR THEIR RADIOS. OKAY. DIFFERENT THINGS COME [00:30:01] UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SHOULD THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER EQUIPMENT INSTEAD OF MISCELLANEOUS? YES. THAT'S WHY WE MOVED IT THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHY SHE'S WANTING US TO MOVE IT OVER THE EQUIPMENT NOW. OKAY. MM-HMM . AND DELETE THE MISCELLANEOUS LICENSE. OKAY. OKAY. THEN THE THIRD IS BRINGING BACK A TOPIC FROM LAST YEAR IS OUR, UH, CLERKS CHANGING THEIR TITLE FROM CLERK TO ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WITH REFLECTING SALARY. UM, THEY'RE AT BASE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 44,000. THE UM, JOB HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED SINCE THOSE POSITIONS WERE CREATED. A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS THROWN ON US BY THE STATE THAT THESE GIRLS ARE HAVING TO KEEP UP WITH. OR EXCUSE ME LADIES AND I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. . AM I GOOD? OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I WENT BACK THERE. WATCH WHAT YOU SAY . BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THESE LADIES ARE VERY DESERVING OF AN INCREASE IN PAGES BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED ON US. LIKE I SAY, IT'S NOT US THROWING MORE STUFF ON 'EM, THE STATE'S THROWING IT ON US. THE DEMOGRAPHICS, THE COUNTY'S GROWING. IT'S THE JOB IS JUST GETTING TO BE MORE AND MORE AND THEY ARE RUNNING THE OFFICES, THEY'RE LINING OUT THE GUYS EVERY DAY. THEY'VE GOT COURT SCHEDULES LINED OUT FOR EVERYBODY. ENTERING TIMES. UM, I'VE PROVIDED A LIST OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW. AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE JOB DUTIES IS ALMOST TRIPLE. WELL I KNOW I HAD DISPATCH RUN SOME REPORTS FOR ALL OF US TO LOOK AT AND IT'S DETAILED AS TO ALL THE CALLS THAT EACH PRECINCT DOES. MM-HMM . SO WE CAN LOOK AND TELL HOW BUSY EACH OFFICE IS BASED ON, I'M JUST GOING BY NUMBERS. MM-HMM . AND SO, AND I KNOW YOU, YOU SHOULD GET THESE, I'M ASSUMING YOU DO. I KNOW Y'ALL PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN THEM BEFORE. YOU WEREN'T HERE LAST YEAR, SO YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THEM SEEN THAT ONE, BUT YEAH. UH, TOMMY'S SEEN THEM BEFORE. MM-HMM. AND SO WHEN WE GO TO RECLASSIFYING A CLERK'S POSITION TO ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, IT'S KINDA A WHOLLY DIFFERENT BALLGAME. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW HOW MANY CLERKS WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY MM-HMM . AND EVERYONE'S GONNA BE ASKING FOR THE SAME THING. AND IF THE $12,639 INCREASE, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD HAVE WITHSTAND THAT KIND OF A RAISE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. RIGHT. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR US TO DO THAT. AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER CONSTABLES WAS THE ONE THAT COME UP WITH JUST THE FIGURE BECAUSE INITIALLY I WAS JUST GONNA DO A RANGE, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN 50 TO 55. UH, I THINK A JP CLERK'S BASE SALARIES AT 52 RIGHT UNDER. AND THEY'RE RUNNING THE SAME PRECINCT THAT A JP CLERK IS THAT A COMMISSIONER'S ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR WHAT A COMMISSIONER'S ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IS MAKING. NOT AT ALL. BUT CAN A COMMISSIONER'S, ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ENTER NEIGHBOR'S REPORTS OR CGES REPORTS? THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. BUT IN TURN OUR GIRLS CAN'T READ A ROAD AND BRIDGE. BUT THE DEAL IS THEY'RE DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK. WELL, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STAY WITH THE NOMENCLATURE FOR CLERK BECAUSE IT'S NOT ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN MY MIND. I DON'T Y'ALL CHIME IN AND SAY WHAT YOU THINK HERE, BUT THIS'S GONNA AFFECT ALL FOUR OF THE PRECINCTS AND ALL THE REST OF THE CLERKS OF THE COUNTY WHO WORK UNDER THE DA. UH, AND IT, IT WILL, I MEAN, UH, BRAND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HR, I I'D LOVE TO LOVE TO WHAT TO INCREASE EVERYBODY, ALL OUR CLERKS AND EVERYTHING, BUT WELL THAT COMES AT THE END, KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE. WE SEE WHAT WE GOT, BUT GET IT OUT. WE WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE A RAISE. YEAH. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. WE ALL WORK FOR A SALARY AND I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE PAY AND EVERYTHING, BUT LAST YEAR THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. WE DROPPED IT, BUT YET THERE WERE INCREASES IN TITLE CHANGES AFTER THAT. NOW EVERYBODY GOT THE SAME INCREASE LAST YEAR. YEAR. YOU TALKING ABOUT DURING THE YEAR? NO, AT BUDGET. UM, DISTRICT COURT REPORT GOT A 6% INCREASE. UH, THAT'S SENT BY THE DISTRICT. JUDGES, NOT US. ELECTIONS HAVE PAY INCREASE. UH, STEVE HUEY WENT FROM CLERK TO SPECIALIST PAY 4,500 PURCHASING WENT FROM 53 TO 61 FOR A BUYER TO SENIOR BUYER. UM, MAINTENANCE CLERK WENT TO OFFICE MANAGER, $7,600 INCREASE. INDIGENT HAD A $4,600 RAISE FOR ONE OF THEIR PERSONNEL. IF THERE'S A [00:35:01] POSITION AVAILABLE, THEY'RE GONNA GET A RAISE. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTIFICATE PAY THIS YEAR. 'CAUSE A LOT OF EVERYBODY'S SEEN ALL THESE CERTIFICATE PAYS. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR OFFICE. RIGHT. OKAY. WE GOT SOME HERE, SITTING HERE AT A LAPTOP AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A LITTLE CLASS AND THEY GET A CERTIFICATE. THEN THEY'RE TURNING THAT IN OVER HERE AT HR TO GO TO AUDITOR FOR A RAISE. 'CAUSE THAT'S A CERTIFICATE. THAT'S NOT CERTIFICATE, THAT'S NOT REALLY A TRAINING CLASS. LIKE WHEN YOU DO CE HOURS OR YOU GO FROM A, UH, YOU GET YOUR MASTER. THAT'S DIFFERENT STORY THAN JUST SITTING AT A COMPUTER LOGGING IN FOR TWO HOURS OR HOUR, WHATEVER, GETTING A CERTIFICATE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT IS MEANT TO BE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU, I'M TALKING ABOUT COUNTYWIDE. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE, ALL RIGHT. IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE DOING JUST TO GET A PAY RAISE? PROBABLY. SO, AND WE GET THAT. WE UNDERSTAND, BUT IS IT TRULY A TRAINING WHERE YOU'VE GONE FROM ONE JOB CLASSIFICATION TO ANOTHER THAT BENEFITS THE COUNTY? IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THEM TOO, BUT HOW DOES IT HELP THE COUNTY OUT IN THE LONG RUN? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE UH, BOBBY LOOKED BEHIND YOU THERE. THEY'RE COMING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE DOOR. THAT'S WHY I MOVED. OH WELL THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE. AND JUDGE, I WANTED TO SAY, UM, AS PART OF UNDER THE PAYROLL REQUEST PACKET, YES I DID KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE INFORMATION AND THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT HE GAVE AND THE PAY. UM, SO I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT IT IT'S ON THIS PAGE IN RED WHERE IT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, TITLES AND PAY AND THEN SOME FROM OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL. OKAY. JUST FOR Y'ALL'S INFORMATION. AND THIS IS GONNA BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION, WE'RE NOT DECIDING THAT TODAY. OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA BE TWO OR THREE MORE ROUNDS OF THIS AND THIS. AND THIS IS ALL ABOUT FUN. IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALL ABOUT FUNDING TOO. SO TO GO FROM 44, YOU SAY CURRENTLY, IS IT 41? YEAH, 44 IS THE START. SO TO GO TO 44 TO 56 BECAUSE WITH THE, THE STUDY AND WE ARGUED THIS LAST COUPLE YEARS, THEY BROUGHT THAT STUDY OUT. I TURNED THIS INTO CIVILIAN, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE SECTOR TITLES TO GET RAISES. GREAT STRATEGY. BUT IN THE END LAST YEAR OUR BIGGEST ORG WAS WE'RE WE'RE GOVERNMENT, WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T DO OFFICE MANAGER, ASSISTANT OFFICE MANAGERS, OFFICE MANAGER THREE OR ALL THIS STUFF. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET OURSELVES BACK TO GOVERNMENT TITLES OF LIKE WHAT IS COMMON IN THE GOVERNMENT TITLE. SO NOW DO I FEEL THAT THE GIRLS NEED A RAISE? YEAH, I'D LOVE, I MEAN BUT TO, BUT THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS, IS TO CHANGE TITLES TO GET THERE. THAT THAT MIGHT BE, BUT OH, DO WE NEED TO RAISE IT? I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE NOT TO, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO JUMP THAT BIG OF A GAP. AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS JUST A FIGURE THAT WE GET SOMETHING TO HELP Y'ALL. I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL BE REASONABLE IN THAT BECAUSE, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO IT FOR ALL THE CLERKS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? TO GET EVERYBODY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T SAY IT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION. JUST WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAVE ON THAT. BUT I MAY BE HONEST WITH YOU BASED ON THE NUMBERS I HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WE'VE BEEN SITTING AROUND TO JUMP THAT BIG OF A GAP AS SAY. THAT WAS, THAT WAS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST, WE CAN'T. RIGHT. THAT WAS NOT MY FIGURE. 50 TO 55 RANGE, 52 LIKE A JP CLERK, CHIEF CLERK MAKES WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT I'M NOT GONNA MENTION WHICH OFFICE. BUT THERE IS A GIRL THAT JUST STARTED ONE OF THE OFFICES FOUR WEEKS AGO. SHE'S MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT THESE ARE RIGHT HERE AND THEY'RE RUNNING OFFICES. WHICH ONE? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SAME TYPE OF OFFICE? WELL, JUST ONE. SHE'S IN ONE OF THE OTHER COUNTY OFFICES AND SHE'S AND AND ONE AND ONE OF THE BIG, AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS IS THE CERTIFICATE. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT JUST NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CLASSES THAT WE TAKE IS LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLINE AND WE GET A CERTIFICATE. IT'S PART OF OUR CONTINUING EDUCATION. SAME THING WITH THE CLERKS. NOW, WE'LL TELL YOU THAT ONE OF MY CLERKS RIGHT NOW, AND MEGAN JUST WENT THROUGH A WEEK LONG SCHOOL AND MY CLERK IS ALSO IN ANOTHER SCHOOL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SOME OF THE CERTIFICATE STUFF, LIKE YOU SAID, DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. IT'S JUST A PAPER. YEAH. BUT FOR OUR GIRLS TO RUN RMS TO DO NS, TO DO AUDIT REPORTS THAT WE HAVE TO GET FROM THE STATE. NOW MY CLERK AMY, IS IN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST SCHOOL. THAT'S 40 HOURS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE ONLINE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING OF. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SHOW THE COURTS OUR GIRLS DO MORE. OUR GIRLS [00:40:01] BASICALLY RUN OUR OFFICE WHEN WE ARE NOT THERE. IF SOMEBODY CALLS, THEY CAN HANDLE IT. NOW MY OFFICE, I HAVE A CHIEF, HE RUNS THE OFFICERS, SHE RUNS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I DO IN MY OFFICE. PAPERS THAT GET INPUTTED, OUTPUTTED SUBMITTED TO RMS COURT CASES THAT GET ROUTED TO DA TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO THERE'S AN ABUNDANCE OF THINGS AND WE AGREE. YEAH, ALL THE CLERKS NEED ARREST, WE GOT THAT. BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S OTHER CLERKS THAT DO MORE THAN OTHERS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE OUR GIRLS, OUR LADIES BUSTING THEIR BUTTS AND DOING WHAT THEY DO AND WE KNOW WE CAN JUSTIFY IT. AND THEN WE SEE OTHER PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT OFFICES AND THEIR CLUB COMES IN SIX, SEVEN, $8,000 MORE AND THEY'VE BEEN WITH US FOR A LITTLE BIT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SLAP AND, AND SOMETHING ELSE TO, AND I I'M, I'M JUST MAKING WE'RE OPEN THING. NO, ABSOLUTELY. TRUST ME. ABSOLUTELY. IF WE HAD TONS OF MONEY. BUT HERE'S THE OPEN THINKING. WE'RE ALL A LAW ENFORCEMENT PATH, RIGHT? YES. YES. AND WE KNOW THAT IF YOU START OUT AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, I LOOK AT LIKE CERTIFICATES OR CERTIFICATION PACE BASED ON HOLDING ON LICENSE. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ALL BEEN BASED ON OUR CAREER. RIGHT. AND IN, IN THE POLICE WORLD. OKAY, YOU MOVE UP OR YOU MOVE AROUND FOR PAY RAISES OR PAY WHATEVER. SO RIGHT. AND, AND IT'S LIKE, I I AIN'T GONNA SAY ANY NAMES. LIKE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE MOVE HERE LIKE, HEY, I LOST MCC CLERK TO, TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY PAY. I'M OKAY. I I I'M GONNA SAY THIS, I'M OKAY WITH THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE A GOOD EMPLOYEE MAY MOVE SOMEWHERE THAT'S WILLING TO DO. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS THEIR JOB IS UNIQUE FROM EVERYBODY ELSE. I CAN'T SIT THERE AND SAY WHAT KATHY DOES. AND I THINK ONE OF KATHY RIGHT THERE, SHE HAS HER JOB. SHE DOES IT WELL AND WE APPRECIATE HER FOR THAT. JUST LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS. SO IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR US TO COMPARE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE YES, YOUR CLERK KNOWS HOW TO DO . OURS MAY NOT, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT JOB TITLES AND THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO TRY TO COMPARE BETWEEN CLARK SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPLES TO ORANGES. SO IT'S NOT REALLY NO, I UNDERSTAND. IF I COULD TAKE THAT YOUNG LADY BACK THERE AND SHE COULD COME TO MY OFFICE AND LEARN THAT JOB AND DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO YEAH. AND AND COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE. YEAH. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS FOR US, IT'S REAL HARD FOR US TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN TRUST, WE CAN COUNT ON THAT'S NOT GONNA MAKE OUR OFFICE FALL CRAP. OR WE START GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM EVERYBODY GOING, WHAT'S GOING ON? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO JUMP SHIP AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. DO LESS AMOUNT BUT MAKE MORE. BECAUSE PRECINCT THREE JUST LOST THEIR CLERK TO ANOTHER POSITION IN COUNTY. HOLD ON A MINUTE. WHERE DID SHE GO? IT IT DOING THE SAME JOB. BASICALLY IT BUT 10,000 MORE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO NOW IT IS, IT'S A DIFFERENT JOB. I MEAN IT IS DOING A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL COMPARED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY OFFICE. YOUR OFFICE. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT, AND I'M, AND NOW I, I SAY THIS AND MATT MAY BE MAD, I I, I'M GLAD SHE GOT THAT. BUT I MEAN WE NEED TO TAKE GOOD EMPLOYEES AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT. I'M THANKFUL THAT SHE GOT THAT. YOU KNOW, IF THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS HIRE THEM OUTSIDE. IF WE LOSE EMPLOYEES TOO. IF WE LOSE THESE, WE CAN'T JUST REPLACE 'EM THE NEXT DAY. THEY HAVE TO ORDER EVERYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN SHUT OUR OFFICES DOWN. AND I'M SPEAKING FOR ALL FOUR GIRLS, BUT I'M USING MINE AS AN EXAMPLE. YEAH. SHE ALSO ASSISTS LIEUTENANT JANUARY AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MAKING SURE THAT THE OTHER COUNTY OFFICER ARE IN SIEGE AS COMPLIANCE. SO I MEAN THERE'S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS THAN EACH PRECINCT, BUT 90 TO 95% OF THE JOB IS THE SAME. BUT IT IS SOME OF THE POSITION WORDED DIFFERENTLY ON DIFFERENT THINGS THEY DO. AND I MEAN THE OLD ADAGE OF A CLERK AS A CLERK IS OUTDATED. AND MINE ALSO WILL BE GOING OUT TO EL PASO WITH ME AND YOU'RE GOING ON VACATION AGAIN. , I DON'T WANT TO GO TO EL PASO BUT I'M GOING, IT'S LOOKING PRETTY OUT THERE. NOT ELSO. NO. ME AND HER'S GOING HAVE TO EL PASO. THAT WAY SHE CAN GET THE SAME TRAINING AS THE OTHER GIRLS. I MEAN THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR US GUYS. DON'T THINK WE LOOK AT THIS AND THIS JUST, UH, THAT'S WHY. AND THIS AIN'T CLOSED. OKAY. IT'S LIKE THE JUDGE SAID WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, DO MOST HARASS WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT IT IS DIFFICULT. I MEAN 'CAUSE WE'RE UP HERE AND IT'S JUST AS SOON AS YOU CHANGE ONE TITLE, WE GET BUMPED. WELL LAST COME MEET YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WE, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT LAST YEAR. BUT THEN IT HAPPENED. SO IT WAS LIKE WE WERE STOPPED BUT THEN IT ENDED UP HAPPENING ANYWAY FOR OTHER OFFICERS. IF THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER ME CHANGING ANYONE'S TITLE TO GET A RAISE. LAST YEAR WE TURNED, WE WATCHED, WE WATCHED THE MOST OF THAT DOWN. WATCHED IT. UNLESS THERE WAS A POSITION THERE WHERE THEY GOT TO MOVE TO IT. [00:45:01] NO. 'CAUSE THE ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF IS LIKE THE UH, FACILITIES OFFICE MANAGER. WE WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH THE MANAGER TITLE. LET'S GO BACK TO GOVERNMENT TITLES. GET AWAY FROM THAT SURVEY. THAT WAS SIX YEARS OLD NOW. YEAH. UH, AND GET BACK TO, AND THEN THEY WERE WANTING TO DO TO BRING HER TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT LEVEL AT OUR AND WE LIKE, NO WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THERE. SO WE LEFT THAT AS AN OFFICE MANAGER TITLE I THINK. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OFFICE MANAGERS WE HAVE LEFT. BUT THAT WAS A BIG TITLE THAT STRUNG ALL OVER THE PLACE. 'CAUSE WE CHANGED, WE CHANGED HIS DEPARTMENT TOTALLY LAST YEAR. YES. BUT WE'RE JUST THROWING, WE THREW OUT THAT FIGURE. WE THREW OUT THAT TITLE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME ANSWER EVERY YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. I MEAN I DON'T CARE. AS LONG AS THEY GET COMPENSATED FOR WHAT THEY DO. I DON'T CARE IF WE CALL 'EM SUPER GIRL. I'M WITH YOU. I MEAN, OKAY NOW I, WE DID AWAY WITH THE CLERK ONE, TWOS AND THREES. MM-HMM BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS BUMPING FROM ONE TO TWO TO THREE. THEY'RE DOING THE SAME JOB AS THEY WERE. DAY ONE IS DUE DAY 5,000. BUT NOTHING REALLY CHANGED IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT. WE'RE FIXED TO REVAMP THAT TOO. WE NEED NEW JOB DESCRIPTIONS. 'CAUSE A LOT OF THEM, THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO SENTENCES DIFFERENCE TO GO FROM ONE TO TWO TO THREE. VERY CONFUSING AND VERY EASY TO SELL. WELL I DO THAT TOO. SO THEREFORE I SHOULD GET THIS. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO OR IF YOU DON'T. ALRIGHT. ARE YOU JUST SAYING THIS TO GET A BUMP? I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. WE ALL WORK FOR A SALARY AND WE WANT OUR EMPLOYEES NOT TO BE ON FOOD STAMPS, NOT TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING THEIR DEDUCTIBLE FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE WANT THEM TO BENEFIT. WE WANT THEM TO STAY. 'CAUSE LIKE YOU, I'VE HAD, I'VE LOST TWO PEOPLE AND IT'S HARD FINDING SOMEONE TO COME IN THAT CAN PICK IT UP AND LEARN AND DO A GOOD JOB. IT'S NOT EASY. WE WANT TO KEEP 'EM. AND THAT'S OUR MAIN GOAL. AND IT'S HARD. AND THEY TALKING ABOUT GOING OVER TO IT MAKES A LOT OF MONEY ANYWHERE YOU GO TODAY IT PEOPLE MAKE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE PAY A TON MORE THAN WHAT WE PAY. JUST LIKE SOME OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. THAT'S LIKE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. IT'S HARD TO FIND AUDITORS AND CPAS AND ACCOUNTANTS, THEY DO GET, THEY BRING MORE MONEY SALARY WISE JUST LIKE HR AND OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. SO, AND ON THE LEGAL SIDE, WE DON'T GET TO SET THE RATES OR THE PRICES ON THE UH, DISTRICT JUDGES EMPLOYEES. THEY GET TO DO THAT. AND I MEAN IF WE LOOK BACK AT THE TRACK RECORD OF ME WITH THIS OFFICE FOR 18 YEARS, BEING A DEPUTY OR THE CONSTABLE, RARELY WOULD WE COME ASK FOR ANYTHING AND WE TURN A LOT OF MONEY BACK IN AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE DON'T BLOW THROUGH OUR BUDGET. YEAH. SO WHEN I DO COME ASK FOR SOMETHING, IT'S USUALLY A BIG DAY LATE. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT DESERVED 'CAUSE IT IS DESERVED. BUT EVERYBODY, WE TRY AND GIVE EVERYBODY A COLOR RAISE EVERY YEAR. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY ONE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS YET. IT WON'T TILL JULY AND JULY 25TH. I THINK IT'S, SO AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE THINGS, NOTHING'S GONNA BE CUT TODAY, NOTHING'S GONNA BE APPROVED TODAY. EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE MARKED DOWN. WE'RE GONNA HOLD IT AS WE GO THROUGH EVERYTHING. WE GET OUR FIRST SET OF ESTIMATED NUMBERS, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE WORK BACKWARDS FROM. SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THAT WE CAN FOR EVERYBODY. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE GOING KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES BOTTOM LINE. BUT WE GOT ANSWERS TO THE TAXPAYERS TOO AT THE SAME TIME. I KNOW, I KNOW. UM, I'VE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE ASK ME FOR JOB IN COUNTY LATELY. I SAY I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HIRE PEOPLE I SEND 'EM TO PURCHASE AND YOU KNOW, THE MAIN REASON THEY WANTED OUR JOB 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEIR INSURANCE. YOU REALIZE WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT PICK UP ALMOST ALL THE COSTS ON THE INSURANCE. LAST YEAR WE PICKED UP ON YOUR CLERK, ALL THE OTHER CLERKS. SAME. WE PICKED UP OVER $1,800 A PIECE ON THEIR DEAL. SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CUT THAT OUT AND START CUTTING INSURANCE, START BEING LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE. AND YOU PAY 50% OF YOUR INSURANCE. I THINK YOUR INSURANCE COSTS. WHAT'S THE INSURANCE COST ON THE EMPLOYEE? SEVEN. 18,017. 18,000 A YEAR. IT'S ABOUT 12. 12. YEAH. WE WENT UP 12.2% THIS YEAR. THEY'VE ALREADY TOLD THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO THE BEST TO GET RID OF THAT TOO. SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE. WE HAVE [00:50:01] TO MANAGE THIS MONEY. AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I MEAN, THEY JUST THINK WE DON'T GROW IT. NO, I I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WENT TO WORK HERE AND I'M PROBABLY THE SENIOR EMPLOYEE IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM . BUT, AND I KNOW THAT, BUT WHEN SOMEBODY COMES FORWARD ABOUT FOUR YEARS, SOMEBODY TRYING TO CUT THAT BY 50% AND THEY'RE GONE. AND I, AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS TO YOU. I I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT AND I AGREE WITH YOU. OKAY. TO LOOK, THIS AIN'T A CLOSED CASE. WHAT TO LOOK, SEE, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE OUR CDL DRIVERS. I'M PAYING MY CDL DRIVERS. THAT'S IF THEY'RE THE CLASS FOUR 50, $2,000 A YEAR. RIGHT. AND CDL DRIVERS, I HAVE ALL MY CDL DRIVERS DONE. I CAN'T GET CDL DRIVE COME WORK FOR ME 'CAUSE THEY AIN'T GONNA MAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR EASY. THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S THE BASE PAY IN THE CIVILIAN. SO I GET PEOPLE CALLING ME ALL THE TIME LIKE, HEY, I'M GONNA APPLY FOR THAT JOB, HOW MUCH YOU PAY. HEY, WE GOT INSURANCE, WE'LL GIVE YOU FREE INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU. AND WE GOT A PENSION SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE BENEFITS IS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES 'EM EVEN THINK ABOUT COME INTERVIEW WITH THIS. THEN THEY COME, OKAY, I CAN MAKE IT UP OVERTIME. WE DON'T HAVE OVERTIME. WE GOT COMP. SO I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT ON THAT, TRUST ME. AND IT'S FRUSTRATING. SO WE'RE HAVING TO LIKE TRAIN IN-HOUSE ON CDL 'CAUSE I CAN'T, I MEAN MY GUYS AND I HAVE CDL DRIVERS AND I TELL 'EM EVERY DAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE 'EM BECAUSE I KNOW THEY CAN WALK AWAY FROM ME RIGHT NOW. AND THEN I, I DON'T HAVE CD DRIVERS AND WE REQUIRE THAT. SO WE'RE ALL JUST THAT GOVERNMENT UNDERPAID DEAL. SO IT'S LIKE WE WANT TO FIGHT FOR ALL YOU GUYS. WE JUST LOOK AT THE FINANCES OF, SO IT'S JUST I KNOW YOU PAYING NOW. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND IT'S JUST, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S JUST DEAD RIGHT NOW. NO, NOW WE'LL LOOK AT IT NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE AT NUMBERS OR IF WE CAN WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO. BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S FRUSTRATING. BUT IT, WE ARE A GOVERNMENT. WE TRY TO GIVE EVERYBODY GOOD BENEFITS TO OFFSET THAT SETTING OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE MY DRIVERS, I TELL 'EM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL JOKE WITH ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU VERY GLAD I DON'T WANNA PAY GAS GOING TO DALLAS EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, SEAN, WE'RE WITH YOU ON THIS MAN. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE'RE ANTI THAT. JUST DON'T LOOK AT IT AND, AND I, AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, BUT IN THAT 18 YEARS, AND I'M NOT, NO DISRESPECT WITH WHAT I'M SAYING 'CAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT FACES. BUT IN THAT 18 YEARS I'VE WATCHED EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR ELECTED OFFICIALS COME IN AND ASK FOR PEOPLE AND THE INCREASES DEPARTMENT HEADS COME IN AND DO THE SAME AND THEY GET I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN IT'S GONNA BE OUR TURN. THAT'S RIGHTFULLY SO. IT'S RIGHTFUL THING TO SAY. SO YEAH, I SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO MORE ROUNDS SO WE GOT A WAYS TO GO. YEAH. SO DON'T, DON'T DON'T, DON'T COUNT IT OUT. SO THAT'S, I'M NOT THEY'RE WORTH FIGHTING FOR. YEAH, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. THEY'RE SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST AS AN IMPORTANT PART AS ANY BADGE. WELL THEY ISSUE THEY TO YOU AS MINE IS TO ME. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THERE. VALUE IS VALUE QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. ALL RIGHT. AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, WE WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR YOUR FULL INSURANCE PREMIUM OR I WILL. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE HERE. YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS MY PEOPLES FACT THAT WE HAVE GOOD BENEFITS IF THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE WE LOST THEM BENEFITS, I'D BE SITTING THERE BY MYSELF. 'CAUSE I MEAN WE COULDN'T OFFSET THAT. SO, AND BUT ANYWAY, WE, WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS. WE REALLY DO. YEP, WE DO. SO, SO WHAT ELSE? THAT'S ALL I HAD. ALRIGHT. ALL GOOD? YOU GOOD? OKAY. THANK YOU. VANESSA. YOU DIDN'T SAY VERY MUCH. I KNOW. I'M UP THURSDAY. THURSDAY, UHOH. OH, WE GOTTA SEE YOU AGAIN. GOTTA SEE YOU READY. OKAY. I'LL HAVE THE SAME BACK. OKAY. GET THE SAME ANSWER. RIGHT. I EVERYBODY ALRIGHT, WE GOT YASMA. COME ON. UM, ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I'M GONNA START OFF WITH OUR, UM, THE LIGHT ITEM FOR THE, THE NON-CAPITAL EQUIPMENT. I DID, I MAY, I AM REQUESTING TO INCREASE THAT BY $2,500. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A LOT OF LEGISLATURE ON THE BOOKS AND BILLS INTRODUCED, OH LORD. UM, PERTAINING TO LIBRARIES. A LOT OF THOSE DIED IN COMMITTEES. BUT JUST SITTING AND HEARING A LOT OF THE HEARINGS AND THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON ABOUT, UM, THE COLLECTIONS AND HOW LIBRARIES ARE LAID OUT AND THE ACCESS FOR CHILDREN TO DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, I PUT THE SHELVING IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THOSE COLLECTIONS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE OUR YOUNG ADULT OVER TO LIKE THE ADULT COLLECTION MM-HMM . AND KIND OF STREAMLINE OUR EASY FICTION AND JUVENILE, [00:55:01] UM, COLLECTIONS. JUST, UM, JUST TAKING SOME OF THAT. THAT WAS SAID IN A LOT OF THOSE, UM, HEARINGS IN AUSTIN, THIS PAST LEGISLATURE. UM, THE MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM, I THINK WE'VE CHANGED THAT AT THE, PER THE AUDITOR TO PUBLIC EDUCATION. THAT LINE ITEM WAS, UM, $3,000. WE USUALLY PAY FOR, UM, NEWSPAPER ADS, ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH THE PUBLIC EDUCATION, UM, PAMPHLETS, FLYERS FOR THE SCHOOLS, UM, BAGS, THINGS LIKE THAT OUT OF THERE. SO THAT LINE ITEM JUST CHANGED TO PUBLIC EDUCATION. UM, INCREASE ON OUR BOOKS TO 10, 10% INCREASE ON OUR BOOKS, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE 4,245. NOT MUCH. THAT IS TO, AS WE, UM, GO MORE OF OUR PATRONS DOING THE DIGITAL, THIS IS TO ADD A, A PLATFORM CALLED HOOPLA, WHICH WOULD GIVE THEM AN ANOTHER OPTION FROM OUR LIBBY APP, WHICH PROVIDES THE FREE DOWNLOADABLE EBOOKS AND AUDIOS. THIS IS LIKE A CONSORTIUM OF LIBRARIES THAT GO IN TOGETHER, UM, TO PROVIDE LIKE 30 TO 50,000 TITLES OF FREE EBOOKS AND AUDIOS TO THE PUBLIC. YEP. THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. YEAH. UM, LET'S SEE. AND THEN ON THE COPIER, I DID INCREASE THAT BY $731 JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE AND ALSO COMMUNICATIONS. BUT I THINK THE COMMUNICATIONS IS GONNA BALANCE OUT. WE STARTED AXING, SO THAT WILL, WE WILL CANCEL THAT FAX LINE. SO I THINK NEXT YEAR IT SHOULD BALANCE OUT ONCE WE TAKE THAT LINE OFF OF THERE AND THE LEASE, THE COPIER LEASE, I THINK THAT KIND OF FLUCTUATES. WE'LL HAVE TO GET WHAT NOW TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GET THAT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST BE MOVING SOME MONEY. UM, AND THAT VERY LAST LINE ITEM, WHICH IS OUR FUND 43, WHICH IS USUALLY OUR, UM, IT SAYS MISCELLANEOUS, BUT THOSE ARE USUALLY DONATIONS THAT ACTUALLY COME TO THE LIBRARY. MM-HMM . I DID REDUCE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE DONATIONS TO THE LIBRARY GO THROUGH THE FRIENDS. OKAY. SO, UM, SO IT'S JUST THAT THOSE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WRITE CHECKS TO US OR THEY DONATE SOMETHING IN MEMORY OF SOMEONE. BUT THE MAJORITY OF OURS GO THROUGH, UM, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. OKAY. SO, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT I HAVE. UM, SO SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'LL BE WORKING ON OR, UM, THE FRIENDS DID GET ANOTHER GRANT TO HELP FUND OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM. SO WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THAT. UM, WE'LL BE INCREASING SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS NEXT YEAR, KIND OF DOING SOME MORE STORY TIMES AND STEAM, UM, OF COURSE REEVALUATING OUR COLLECTIONS TO MAKE SURE ANYTHING THAT MAY BE, UM, OFFENSIVE, SEXUALLY EXPLICIT ACCESS TO KIDS IS NOT THERE. GOOD. UM, THERE ARE SOME, ONE OF THE UPDATES FROM THE STATE WAS TO UPDATE OUR STRATEGIC PLANS AND SOME OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SO I'LL BE DOING THAT. ANOTHER ONE THAT WE DID GET A GRANT FOR THAT WE JUST GOT THE AWARD LETTER FOR IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON OUR PROJECT TO DIGITIZE OUR NEWSPAPERS. SO THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WE PARTNERED WITH THE SPELMAN MUSEUM IN FORNEY. THEY HAD A LOT OF THE FORNEY MESSENGERS FROM, UM, SOME EARLY YEARS UP UNTIL 1992. AND THEN WE HAVE THE KAUFMAN'S DONE, JUST STARTING OUT WITH THEM FROM 1880 ALL THE WAY TO LIKE 18, I THINK. 1890. WE WILL START OUT, UM, DIGITIZING THOSE TO THE STATE LIBRARY. SO, UM, SO WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THOSE GRANTS AS WELL. BUT THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. DO WE HAVE ANY, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I, I'M NOT SURE IF THE LEGISLATION PASSED WHERE WE CAN DO ONLINE ADVERTISING NOW. I HAVE TO GO TO THE PHYSICAL PAPER. OKAY. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S GONNA SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY. YES. MM-HMM . BUT I, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW YET. OKAY. SO, YEAH. YOU KNOW. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO. SO PRINT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE. IT IS. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. OKAY. SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOUNG? I KNOW SHE DOES A GREAT JOB OVER THERE AND I'VE NEVER HEARD A COMPLAINT ONE ABOUT YOUR LIBRARY WAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING FOR YOU GUYS TO WAY, THE ONLY THING I COMPLAIN ABOUT, I MEANT TO ASK CASEY ABOUT. I KEEP FORGETTING, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS OVER THERE AND THE PROTESTERS OUT FRONT, I PARKED ON, OH, YEP. I PARKED ON THE END, COME THROUGH THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, COME DOWN THE OTHER WAY. AND THEY NEED TO FIX THE FUN OF THAT BUILDING SOMEHOW. TALK ABOUT DOWN THERE. YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING? WELL, THE BRICK. OH YES. THAT IS ALL MESSED UP. NOBODY'S EVER MENTIONED THAT AND TALKED ABOUT THAT. YES. WELL, THEY, WE HAVE AND THEY'VE, UM, POWER WASHED, I THINK JUST PUTTING IN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL FACADE OF THE BUILDING. YEAH. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AND DO SOME REPAIR WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT, BUT THE REPAIR WORK WAS REALLY SHODDY. WELL, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY WERE ACTUALLY HAD, IT WAS NOT UNDER CASEY OR EVEN BOBBY, I THINK IT WAS. OH, I KNOW. I'M JUST SAYING FOR THAT. SO I CAN, I MEANT TO BRING IT UP TO HIM AND MAYBE IF I DON'T, I NEED TO MAKE MYSELF A NOTE. 'CAUSE I, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SEE [01:00:01] THIS IS A CHEAP THING UP THERE THAT I'M MM-HMM . ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW. YEAH. JUST RESURFACE FRONT THAT BILL AND MAKE IT LOOK HALFWAY DECENT. YEAH, I AGREE. THE AND THE STUFF, YOU KNOW. I AGREE. UM, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON IT AND THE INSIDE YOU'VE DONE WELL AND MM-HMM . YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF YEAH, I'LL GET WITH CASEY. I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO AND LOOK AT. YEAH. ESPECIALLY SINCE BUDGET DID, AND I MEANT TO LOOK IN THAT DEAL MM-HMM . AND SEE IF HE HAD SOMETHING ON THERE FOR THAT. WE DIDN'T DO THAT. I THINK I MENTIONED, MENTIONED THAT TO HIM BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CHEAP FIX OUT FRONT. WE WILL DO THAT. I'LL DO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE HAD THAT IN THE, THE, YOU KNOW HOW THEY SAY YOU JUDGE IS BOOKED BY THE COVER. RIGHT. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. SO I'LL DO THAT. I'LL GET WITH HIM. OKAY. AND THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE NOTHING ELSE, JUDGE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. I'M NOT ASKING TO SPEND MORE MONEY, BUT I AIN'T WELL, STILL A LITTLE BIT. JUST A YEAH, WELL, I MEAN WE DO SO MUCH THERE. THE VOTING, ALL THE MEETINGS. RIGHT. SO THAT ENTRANCES, I JUST THINK IT WOULD LOOK, IT WOULD LOOK NICE. IT IS. IT'S USED A LOT. YEAH. ALL THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, AND THE VETERAN WALL AND EVERYTHING'S GETTING SO ATTRACTIVE OUT THERE. YEAH, WE DO. WE'RE WORKING ON GRANTS FOR THE SIGN TO DO THE DIGITAL SIGN OUT THERE. SO, UM, SOME OF THAT IN THAT EQUIPMENT WAS FOR SIGNAGE AS WELL, SO. YEAH. BUT I WILL MENTION THAT TO CASEY. I KNOW. I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING IT UP WHILE I'M SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT IT. AND SOMEBODY HELP ME REMIND HIM TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YES, I WILL. I'LL DO THAT TOO. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER? ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? YOU SURE? OKAY, MR. THANK YOU ALL. SEE YOU LATER. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BREAK NOW UNTIL, UH, WHO'S 1 21? 2120. AND THAT'S GONNA BE WHO? TRENT. TRENT. AND THEN WE HAVE STEVE WHO WE HAVE FOR THAT. THEN THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I GUESS WE NEED TO, YES. WHERE'D HE GO? DID I PASS HIM SOMEWHERE? DID SHE GAVE YOU, IS HE IN HERE? VERY LAST ONE. THE VERY LAST ONE. OH, IF HE'S THE LAST ONE, WE GET TO GO HOME AFTER THIS. DAMN MAINTENANCE. YOU DOING IT TOO? ? UM, WE ACTUALLY DID THAT. WE TO MAKE DAMN MAINTENANCE. WE FIGURED IT OUT'S, I DON'T CARE. FOOT IN HERE AGAIN. HAPPEN HAPPENED ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW, UH, HE CALLED ME. YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME. OH, IT'S ON THE BACK HERE. THE LAST TWO LAST TWO PAGES. LAST TWO LAST TWO PAGES. VERY LAST. HIS IS SECOND TO LAST. I GOT IT. I GOT IT. THAT THE LIBRARY. YOU GET IT? OKAY, MR. STEVE, COME ON. I GOT MY MICROPHONE ON NOW. . THERE WE GO. OKAY. YOU FIND IT? YEP. YEP. NOW I'M WITH YOU. AFTERNOON, STEVE. GOOD AFTERNOON. IF I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE THIS QUICK, I'D HAVE WAITED A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND ATE, ATE MORE SALAD. . UH, IF YOU WAITED ANY LONGER, WE'VE PASSED YOU UP. . I JUST CAN'T OKAY, GO AHEAD. BREAK. UH, THANK YOU. AND I'M GONNA START OFF BY TELLING YOU THAT THIS YEAR WAS EXTREMELY DIFFERENT FOR ME. UH, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND CRYSTAL CAME TO OUR OFFICE AND TALKED US THROUGH THE BUDGET AND ENLIGHTENED US ON STUFF THAT WE KNOW DIDN'T KNOW I HAVEN'T KNOWN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND IT'S GONNA HELP ME IN THE FUTURE. GOOD. AND SO RANDY AND CRYSTAL AND THEM, THEY DESERVE SOME, SOME CREDIT ON THIS BECAUSE I'M IMPRESSED. UM, WE'LL GIVE THEM THE MONEY. YEAH. NOT WELL . ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. DON'T MIND. PLEASE KEEP GOING. UH, OUR BUDGET OVERALL IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR. UH, OUR BIGGEST REQUEST THIS YEAR IS WE'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER FULL-TIME PERSON. UH, I HOPING THAT YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT THAT I SENT TO BRANDY AND THEM, UH, TO TRY AND JUSTIFY MY REQUEST. HOPEFULLY I DID A GOOD JOB OF JUSTIFYING WHY WE NEED THIS PERSON. UH, IN THERE, THERE WAS A NOTE ABOUT THEM BEING ABLE TO BACK UP OUR COUNTY 9 1 1 COORDINATOR. SHE'S NOT GOING TO TAKE OVER ANY OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT KELLY HAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SHE'LL BE DOING STUFF FOR US, SUCH AS MAPS FOR DIFFERENT, UH, [01:05:01] PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT WHICH PACKAGE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING LIKE SHE'S WORKING ON IN THE PAYROLL FLOOR PLAN FOR FACILITIES. NOW GUESS THIS SAYS NEW POSITION. IT'S IN ORDER. SO IT, IF YOU FOUND WHERE TAN, IT'S RIGHT AFTER TAN. OKAY, HOLD ON STEVE, LET ME GET TO THERE. OKAY. THESE AREN'T NUMBERED BECAUSE IT'S JUST EVERYBODY'S BACKUP, BUT IT'S OKAY. OKAY. IN THE ORDER. AND THE VERY TOP OF IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. IT SAYS REQUEST ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME STAFF NUMBER. WELL, THE NEXT PAGE AFTER 10, SO THERE'S EXTENSION OFFICE. IT'S ALMOST THERE AFTER, AFTER THAT SECTION. YEAH, I'VE GOT IT. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. OKAY, NOT A PROBLEM. I JUST WANTED TO FIND, UH, YOUR SHEET HERE. WE HAVE NATALIE PART-TIME RIGHT NOW AND WE'D LIKE TO MAKE HER FULL-TIME. AND BECAUSE OF THE HELP SHE'S BEEN THROUGHOUT THIS, UH, DISASTER STUFF WITH FEMA, SHE'S HELPED US OUT TREMENDOUSLY ON THAT. UH, SO THAT'S OUR BIG REQUEST FOR THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, OUR BUDGET DIDN'T CHANGE A WHOLE LOT. OKAY. UH, CRYSTAL HELPED US REORGANIZE IT BECAUSE AS SEVERAL HAVE SAID BEFORE, WE DOING AWAY WITH THE MISCELLANEOUS AND WE CREATED A, A, UH, SOFTWARE LINE ITEM, WHICH WE HAD USED SOME OF OUR MISCELLANEOUS FOR SOFTWARE LAST YEAR. WE BEGAN USING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT HAS BEEN INVALUABLE TO US AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE THAT. SO WE'VE GOT THAT BUDGET IN OUR SOFTWARE AND WE'VE GOT OUR VV, WHICH IS THE AUDIO VISUAL STUFF IN THE EOC, UH, AND THE, UH, EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. BUT THAT'S LISTED UNDER OUR CRI STUFF SINCE IT'S BEING REIMBURSED RIGHT NOW FROM THEM. UH, BUT MOST OF THE OTHER CHANGES WERE DUE TO INFLATION COST CHANGING. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME UNFUNDED MANDATES, UH, THAT ARE JUST NOW BEING IMPLEMENTED. THEY WERE PASSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOW BEING IMPLEMENTED. UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN THERE'S A LONG-TERM POWER OUTAGE, UH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO START CHECKING ON EVERYBODY ON OUR LIST THAT'S CONSIDERED MEDICALLY FRAGILE AND WE'VE GOT TO SEND OUT A NOTIFICATION THROUGH OUR EVERBRIDGE OR OUR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. IF THEY DON'T RESPOND TO THAT, WE HAVE TO DO PHONE CALLS. AND IF THEY DON'T RESPOND TO THAT, WE'VE GOT TO INDIVIDUALLY GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND CHECK ON 'EM. DO YOU SEND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON? WELL CHECK FOR THAT. DID YOU SEND DEPUTIES OR YOU, YOU, WELL, I MEAN, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE ON THAT CON LIST? ABOUT 96. YEAH. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD. YOU COULD EVEN IF YOU HAD A PERSON, YOU COULDN'T GO OUT AND CALL ON ONE OF 'EM. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET CREATIVE IN HOW WE DO IT. IF IT GOES THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE TALKING TO THE SHERIFF OR CONSTABLE'S OFFICE NEEDS SHERIFF. SHERIFF, OF COURSE HE'S GONNA BE BUSY, BUT WE'LL BE USING FIREFIGHTERS. SOMEBODY FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN EACH AREA OR SOMETHING. WE MAY CALL OUR COMMISSIONERS AND SEE IF THEY'RE BUSY. WELL, IT DON'T BOTHER ME. WAKE 'EM UP. YOU, WE WOULD SOMEBODY, THEY ONLY GIVE US 24 HOURS IN WHICH TO DO THAT. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WELDING. ACTUALLY, YOU WANTED TO TAKE YOU PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME PLUS ANOTHER FULL-TIME. NO, NO. ONE FULL-TIME. YOU HAVE TO PART-TIME GOING TO FULL-TIME. BUT WE WANT KEEP OUR PART-TIME BUDGET BECAUSE WE DO HAVE LIKE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING PART-TIME HERE AND THERE FOR US. WELL THEN THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. YOU WANT TO HAVE A PART-TIME AND TAKE A PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME AND MAKE FULL-TIME WITH IT. A PART-TIME. YOU STILL, YOU'RE ADDING ONE FULL TIME TO KEEP YOU PART-TIME. YOU KNOW WHO'S OLD FIRST? WHO'S ON SECOND . OKAY. THAT OKAY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS. THAT'S, I THOUGHT HE SAID IT RIGHT. OKAY. GO AHEAD ON. BUT, UH, THAT'S TROUBLE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WE'VE ADDED $300 HERE AND YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS THERE JUST TO MEET THE RISING COST OF, OF EVERYTHING. OKAY. UH, WE DO HAVE A, WHAT IS CALLED A GROWTH VEHICLE, AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE, UH, THAT WAS REQUESTED FOUR YEARS AGO. MM-HMM . UH, IT WAS APPROVED IN THIS LAST, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND, UH, [01:10:02] WHEN YOUR PREDECESSOR WAS HERE, HE DID NOT APPROVE THE VEHICLE BUT DID APPROVE THE INCREASE IN OUR GAS AND OIL TO COVER IT SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR GAS AND OIL. 'CAUSE THAT MONEY'S ALREADY THERE. SO ONE OUT TWO'S NOT BAD, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE OUR BUDGET AS BEST WE CAN. AND, UH, HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU HAVE? TWO. NOW WHEN THESE COME IN, THERE'LL BE TH THREE. THE PICKUP WE HAVE NOW WILL BE TURNED IN. WE GET A NEW PICKUP. ARE THOSE ON LEASE TOO? YES SIR. THEY'RE ALL ON LEASE. HOW MANY MILES DO YOU HAVE ON 'EM? I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT. HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU HAD IT? OVER FOUR YEARS GOING ON FIVE ON LEASE FEES. THE LEASE PROGRAM CHANGES THEM IN EVERY FOUR YEARS. FOUR YEARS, ISN'T IT? THEY CHANGE EVERY FOUR YEARS. GET RID OF I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE THAT, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE IF IT'S MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR FAR AS TO BUY AND STILL LEASE THOSE THINGS. WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD. YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DROP THAT EXCEPT PATROL CARS OR SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY BE LOOKING AT IS, ESPECIALLY IF WE NEED TO KEEP LAW ENFORCEMENT DRIVING FOUR YEARS WITHOUT GOING ON MILEAGE EXTENSIONS, WE, I THINK EVERYBODY'S BEEN DOING THAT. THEY'RE TRYING TO PHASE OUT OF IT. YEAH. WE'VE WORKED WITH PURCHASING, UM, PURCHASING IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND GETTING SOME QUOTES AND KIND OF SOME SCENARIOS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. OKAY, GOOD. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU'RE GETTING A TIGHT, YOU JUST HAVE TO KEEP DRIVING THE ONE WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES. I MEAN THAT'S JUST WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. BUT THE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A LEASE, YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. REAL PROBLEM. WELL, WHEN THESE COME IN, WE'LL BE GOOD FOR FOUR YEARS, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE BUDGET FOR THAT. WELL, BEFORE WE GET THE NEW ONES, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF IT CONTINUES TO BE THE LEASE OR THE PURCHASE. WELL THE NEW THE NEW ONES WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK. OH, OH, OH, REALLY COMPLETE. THEY'RE ALREADY IN, ALREADY IN PLACE. CANCEL IT. ARE ARE WE ABLE TO CANCEL THAT IF WE NEED TO? NO MA'AM, WE ARE NOT BECAUSE THESE VEHICLES WERE PURCHASED LAST YEAR. OKAY. IT JUST TAKE ALMOST A YEAR FOR AND OKAY. MIGHT FINE. ALRIGHT. YOU'RE GOOD FOR FOUR THEN ? WELL, WE'RE GOOD FOR FOUR. OKAY. AND WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHATEVER'S NECESSARY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. BICYCLE. UH, THAT'S A HARD NO, . ALRIGHT, WELL THEN, ALRIGHT, WE ALREADY FOUND SOMETHING. OKAY, BACK DOWN REAL QUICK, DIDN'T HE? UH, BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, I THAT OURS IS PRETTY SIMPLE. UH, OVERALL IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER. UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAX MONEY THAT COMES IN. SO, OKAY. SO WE GOT THE PURCHASE SOFTWARES OFF OF HERE. YOU GOT A YEAH. UH, CAN I, OKAY. I NEED TO ASK SOMETHING TOO THOUGH BEFORE IT GOES AWAY. SO WE HAVE A GIS DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? YES SIR. AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DIS DEPARTMENT? YES SIR. SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIS DEPARTMENT. WE'LL HAVE A PERSON I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IS THAT DOUBLE, DOUBLE DUTY? I MEAN, WE, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING ANYTHING THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT DOING OH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. WELL, I COVER THE OTHER, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT, BUT THE GIS DOESN'T DO EVERYTHING FOR UH, LIKE THEY MAKE US MAPS, THEY MAKE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY MAPS. HOW COME THEY CAN'T DO YOUR MAPS? WELL, UH, NATALIE CAN DO CODING, WHICH KELLY CAN'T, WHICH COULD HELP THE, UH, ELECTIONS FOLKS WITH THEIR STUFF. UH, SHE'S NOT GONNA BE DOING JUST GIS SHE'S GONNA BE DOING EVERYTHING THAT AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST WOULD. NO, I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT THE GIS PART. NOT YEAH, NOT HER JOB. OKAY. I WASN'T SAYING TAKE THE JOB AWAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BUT SHE'S, AND I DON'T WANT TO KILL SOMEBODY'S TIME IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS ABLE TO DO IT TOO. I MEAN, WHETHER WE, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS DOING GIS DOING MORE FACILITIES. YEAH. I MEAN, WHICH KELLY CAN'T DO. OKAY. SO SHE'S GOT SOME TRAINING THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE. BUT I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GIS DEPARTMENT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE ONES DOING THE GIS WORK. WELL, AND KELLY IS PRETTY MUCH OBLIGATED UNDER CONTRACT TO DO THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING. RIGHT. THAT'S HER PRIMARY DEAL. RIGHT. AND WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THAT OR INTERFERING WITH THAT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ACTUALLY YOU REDUCED ABOUT $380,000 IS THE BOTTOM LINE. LOOKS LIKE HOW MUCH? NO. 380,000. I DIDN'T I HAD THAT MUCH IN THE BUDGET. YOU DON'T ANYMORE. YOU DON'T WELL, OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. SO PLEASE LOOK FAVORABLY FOR ME. P PLEASE. [01:15:03] THANK YOU STEVE. OKAY. YOUR YOU'RE UP MR. TR IT LOOKS LIKE DOUBLE TROUBLE HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW? YEAH. BRINGS BACK UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. LET US GET TO OUR PAGES HERE. HOLD ON. OKAY MAN. GO BACK TO THE WHATEVER YOU DOING FRONT. ALRIGHT. HOW YOU DOING? OH, HEY, HE, IN THAT, WHERE IS HE IN THE PACKET? THE VERY FRONT PAGE. THE VERY, WOW. OH NO . HE'S RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME. WELL, I SAW THAT AND I THOUGHT THERE'D BE SOMETHING OVER HERE TOO. I GOT THIS ONE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. UM, BASICALLY WE COME AND WE BASICALLY ALMOST KEEPING THE BUDGET THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR. WE JUST INCREASING THE RAILING IN THREE LINE ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UH, JUVENILE EDUCATION. WE WERE RAISED THAT UP POSSIBLY TO 10 THOU, 10 MORE THOUSAND DOLLARS AS AS WELL AS THE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH EXAM. WE ERASE THAT AND DETENTION THOSE THREE AREAS JUST BECAUSE OF PRICES GOING UP, CONTRACTORS GOING UP. SO WE JUST TRYING TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE COVER, UH, THE, THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE ARE HAVING COMING INTO THE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING AS FAR AS THE WHOLE BUDGET I'M ASKING FOR INCREASE ON. OKAY. JUST DO YOU UH, KELLY AND UH, IT'S STILL THE SAME PERCENTAGE? MM-HMM . YEAH. REMIND, THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT. YES. PERCENTAGE UP OUR TOP 30% STATE FUNDED AND 70 FUNDED BY THE COUNTY. YES. AND THAT'S THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST FISCAL YEAR. SO 30% IS, UM, BROUGHT IN OF THE REVENUE IS BROUGHT IN BY THE STATE AND THEN 70% OF IT IS FUNDED BY THE COUNTY AND WE HAVEN'T GOT THE STATE TO NUMBERS YET. OKAY. ON THOSE. OKAY. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY KNEW HOW THAT WAS FUNDED. OKAY. MM-HMM . THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THIS YEAR. THAT'S PRETTY EASY THIS YEAR. YES. PRETTY EASY. YES SIR. ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT'S MANAGEABLE. ALRIGHT, MAN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. UHHUH. . YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY'S THAT EASY WITH THEM. I KNOW. BE ALL RIGHT. [2. Adjourn Meeting] I THINK WE'RE THROUGH FOR THE DAY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.