* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. To discuss the FY25-26 budget] [00:00:02] OKAY, WE'RE BACK HERE AT OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING HERE AT ANNEX FIRST FLOOR FOR OUR SECOND DAY OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS. IT IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE 11TH. WE HAVE TWO THIS MORNING. MR. TOMMY PHILLIPS COMING FROM THE AGRISCIENCE EXTENSION OFFICE, AND I SEE YOU BROUGHT SOMEONE WITH YOU. PROBABLY REINFORCEMENT. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. WE ALL COME ON UP AND LET'S, UH, SEE HOW WE CAN HELP YOU. JUDGE COMMERS, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PRESENT TO Y'ALL THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. UM, WHEN BRANDY MET WITH US A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO HELP ME KIND OF NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT COMPUTER SYSTEM, I SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. AND SHE GOES, THAT'S IT. SO I'M HOPING THAT'S A GOOD SIGN. UH, SO AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO. FOR US. THERE IS ONLY REALLY ONE ASK THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, AND THAT'S TO PUT IN A, UH, A THIRD PROGRAM ASSISTANT IN OUR FOUR H PROGRAM. UM, AND SO, LIKE I SAID, I BROUGHT REINFORCEMENTS. SO THE QUEEN OF FOUR H IS GONNA TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US AND THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. AND THEN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THIS PERSON WOULD BE DOING AND HOW MANY HOURS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. RIGHT? AND SO, UH, TWO YEAR, THREE YEARS AGO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, AWARDED ME THREE PROGRAM ASSISTANCE TO COVER ALL THE SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH OVER IN CRANDALL AND FORNEY. I REALLY HAD TO GET THAT THIRD ONE IN, UM, LAST NOVEMBER. MM-HMM . LAST NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, UH, PANDORA BONNER, WHO WAS OUR THIRD, UH, PROGRAM ASSISTANT, UH, SHE HAD TO, UM, PULL BACK FROM HER WORK DUTIES BECAUSE, UH, SHE'S TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF HER FATHER-IN-LAW. SO I THOUGHT, NO BIG DEAL. I WILL JUST PICK UP YOUR LOAD. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. UM, SO IN LOOKING AT LAST YEAR'S STATS TO THIS YEAR'S STATS, WE HAVE HAD A 26.6% DECREASE IN OUR SCHOOL CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT. MAINLY BECAUSE ME TRYING TO COVER THAT THIRD PROGRAM ASSISTANT AREA FOR TERRELL AND KAUFMAN IN MAYBANK, I JUST COULDN'T GET MY JOB DONE. IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO HELP THOSE TEACHERS OUT, IN ADDITION, TERRELL MOVED OVER TO A BRAND NEW, UH, CURRICULUM DIRECTOR. AND SO MS. TOY AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THAT, UH, WORK BASE IN TERRELL. WE STARTED FIGURING OUT, BUT STILL NEXT YEAR WITH MY LOAD COMING ON, I'M REALLY GETTING EXCITED WITH SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IN FOUR H AND I'M AFRAID THAT I'M GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO SERVICE AS MANY TEACHERS IN KAUFMAN AND TERRELL AND MAYBANK THAT I NEED TO. SO I WAS ASKING, UM, I GRACIOUSLY SAT BRANDY DOWN SAYING, SO, UM, IF I WAS TO ADD ONE PROGRAM, UH, ASSISTANT BACK IN AT THE ORIGINAL RATE, UM, WHAT WOULD I NEED TO, UH, COME AND PLEAD TO THE COMMISSION'S COURT ON? AND THAT IS, UH, THE, THE TOTAL IS 23.064. AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING. THAT'S JUST BASE. THAT'S JUST BASE. I MEAN THAT, BUT THAT'S BASE, BUT THAT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'LL BE ON TOP. OKAY. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS INCLUDING EVERYTHING. SO, UM, I THOUGHT THE 23, THE TOTAL'S GONNA BE ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK. UM, 38, PROBABLY. PROBABLY SOMEWHERE, YEAH. 40 AND UNDER. YEAH. BUT THIS IS STILL GONNA BE A PART-TIME POSITION. THEY'LL ONLY BE WORKING 20 TO 25 HOURS A WEEK, SO WE NEVER GO OVER THAT AVERAGE. UM, SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THEM PART-TIME, BECAUSE THE PART-TIME IS WHAT YEAH. DO, DO WE HAVE TO PAY EVERYTHING FOR THE PART-TIME UNDER 29 HOURS. UM, IT'S NO INSURANCE. AND, UM, BECAUSE INSURANCE IS A BIG ONE, THAT'S LIKE 12 GRAND. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY DO SPEND RETIREMENT. WE STILL HAVE TO DO RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. AND NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD. AND SO, BUT I DO KEEP 'EM UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT 29 HOUR WEEK AVERAGE. UM, AND I WORK CLOSELY WITH BRANDY AND SOME OF THEM ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT GOING OVER THAT. TO GIVE YOU A CASE IN POINT, UH, WE, THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE IS OUR, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR DATA THERE, THE BIGGEST NEED OUT THERE IS A HATCHET IN THE CLASSROOM. AND ALSO THE WATER CYCLE. THE WATER CYCLE IS THE STRING TRAILER THAT WE TAKE OUT. UM, THOSE TWO, UH, ARE VERY INTENSIVE WORKING. UH, WHERE WE ACTUALLY, THE FOUR WEEK PROGRAM FOR HASH IN THE CLASSROOM, WE'RE LITERALLY THERE EVERY WEEK. UM, EXCEPT FOR THE LAST WEEK. WE'RE THERE MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF, UH, CHICK PROBLEMS. WE TRY TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT OUR TEACHERS AND THEIR, UH, THEIR AIDS. UH, SO THAT ONE BETWEEN THE 24, 25 AND THE 23, 24 YEARS IS ONE THAT WE TOOK THE BIGGEST HIT ON, UM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR BIGGEST LABOR INDUCIVE, UH, PROGRAM. SO MY, MY REQUEST IS, IS IF WE COULD ADD BACK IN A THIRD PROGRAM ASSISTANT AT THE ORIGINAL, UH, SALARY BASE, UM, TO HELP OUT, AND SO WE CAN DO THESE LAST THREE SCHOOLS IN ADDITION. WELL, WE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE ALL THE SCHOOLS YES. NOT JUST ONES [00:05:01] WHERE THE MOST GROWTH IS. YEAH. AND I CAN'T, AND I CAN'T, UH, TARA IS OVER IN FORNEY RIGHT NOW. SHE DOES A EXCELLENT JOB WITH FORNEY. UH, SHE HAS A GOOD WORKING RELATION WITH THEM, BUT WITH THEM CONSTANTLY BUILDING MORE ELEMENTARIES. , YEAH. AND NOW AN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL. WE'RE ALSO DOING PROGRAMS IN THE INTERMEDIATE. UH, THE OTHER THING IS, IS TALKING WITH A LOT OF OUR CURRICULUM CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT DIRECTORS FOR NEXT YEAR IS NOW THAT, UH, TEXAS HAS DONE THE WISE THING OF RELEASING THAT TEST, THEN KICKED IT TO THE CURB, UH, THE TEACHERS ARE GONNA ACTUALLY START TRYING TO DO MORE HANDS-ON TO TRY PREP THEIR KIDS FOR. SO THAT'S GONNA BE MORE PLANT SCIENCE. IT WASN'T APPROVED THOUGH. IT WASN'T NO, IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED BEFORE THE, WELL, BEFORE THEY BROKE. FACEBOOK LIED TO ME THEN. YEAH. THEY DIDN'T GET APPROVED. S**T. I ALMOST, MY KIDS HEARD IT AND THERE WENT, WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE IT. YEAH. I ALMOST THREW YOUR PHONE THERE. SORRY. WELL, MY FRUSTRATION IS ON THAT ONE. UM, SO, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA BE TRYING TO TEACH THE TEACHERS AND HELP THEM GO TOWARDS THAT, UH, TESTING. OKAY. YEP. THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT, UM, IS $4,000. SO 27,000 ALL IN, THAT'S ROUGHLY, THAT'S NOT MUCH FOR THE, FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND CAN DO FOR OUR KIDS. YES. THAT'S IMPORTANT. YES. IN REGARDS TO THE MONEY. YEAH. TARA HAS ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH THE FORNEY HOMESCHOOL GROUP ONCE A MONTH. AND THEN, UM, UH, DUE TO THE TRAINING THAT I TOOK, UH, TARA AND, UM, STEPHANIE TWO, TWO YEARS AGO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY STEPHANIE STARTED UP THE SEWING, UM, GROUP. AND SO LAST YEAR WE DID 18, UM, QUILTS OF VALOR THIS YEAR. SHE WANTS TO BREAK THAT RECORD. AND I'M LIKE GOING, YAY. THAT'S GOOD. NO, IT IS GOOD. IT IS GOOD. IF I JUST KNEW MORE THAN HOW TO RIP, RIP OUT, SEEMS IT'D BE BETTER. OKAY. WELL I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL, UH, CONSENSUS IS, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, LIFE SKILLS OR IMPORTANT FOR OUR KIDS, THEY'RE GONNA GROW UP. THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO SOME PRACTICAL COMMON USE THINGS. WELL, AND KNOWING WHERE THEY'RE AT THEIR, THEIR AGRICULTURE PRODUCTS COME FROM IS, IS HUGE. YEAH. IT'S HUGE. EXACTLY. SO, AND THAT ALSO, UM, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR LAB. I THINK SOME OF YOU WERE AT OUR LAB MEETING. WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO AN ADULT TEAM 1 0 1. WE'RE GONNA START SENDING OUT INVITATION LETTERS TO SOPHOMORE AND JUNIORS. SOPHOMORE OR FRESHMAN AND JUNIORS. FRESHMAN, I DON'T REMEMBER. SOPHOMORE AND JUNIORS. SOPHOMORE AND JUNIORS, UH, HERE PRETTY SOON. GREAT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR YOUTH. YOU BET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. WHEN MR. MIKE TAYLOR GETS HERE, HE'S NOT DUE HERE FOR ANOTHER 20 MINUTES, 10 MINUTES. SO, SO THAT'S GREAT. GOTTA GO THROUGH THIS ANYMORE. OKAY. SO WE GOT MR. MIKE TAYLOR, A FIRE MARSHAL HERE, AND IF Y'ALL WILL TURN TO HIS REQUEST. HOW YOU DOING, MIKE? DOING GOOD, SIR. GOOD. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, MIKE, WHEN YOU'RE READY. OKAY. UM, SO FOR THE MOST PART, UH, WITH OUR PROPOSAL, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK FOR THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR. UM, WE WERE ACTUALLY, UM, LOOKING AT KIND OF COMING IN UNDER OUR BUDGET, UH, FOR THEIR, I KNOW THERE WAS ONE PART IN THERE. WE DID PURCHASE TWO, UH, VEHICLES YES. FROM THIS. SO THAT KIND OF FLAGS US UP, LOOK LIKE WE'RE OVER, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF SOMETHING SEPARATE THAT WE DID FROM THE FIRE FUND. YES, WE DID. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR FUND OR OUR DEPARTMENT RUNS PRIMARILY ON OUR FIRE FUND THAT WE RECEIVE FOR, UH, THE PERMIT FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COME IN. UM, SO FAR WE'RE HAVING A REALLY GOOD YEAR IN A SENSE. I THINK WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING, UH, AT ALMOST A 24% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S PERMIT'S COMING IN'S, YEAH. FROM LAST YEAR. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE BUILDING AND I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING EVERYBODY SEES IN THE COUNTY THAT WE SEE. SO, UH, GOODYEAR, AS FAR AS THAT, UM, THE REALLY, THE ONLY THE, THE TWO [00:10:01] THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO OF ANYTHING OF REALLY MODIFICATIONS FROM LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR IS, UM, AND I'M SURE YOU'ALL HEARD THIS IS ONE OF THE SOFTWARE ISSUES. YES. SO, UM, WITH US, WE HAD, UH, PAUL FROM PREVIOUSLY, HE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE USED TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE HOW WE DID OUR REPORTS, WHERE OUR FIRE REPORTS OR POLICE REPORTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS FROM OUR INSPECTIONS. EXCUSE ME. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, UM, GOING WITH ONE COMPANY THAT WOULD SERVE MOST PART ALL OF OUR NEEDS SO THAT WAY WE CAN DO ONE STOP SHOPPING. UM, THEY'RE SIEGES COMPLIANT. THEY'RE, UH, CALLED ATHENA. UM, THIS IS WHO FRISCO USES PLANO WIDELY. UH, EVEN SEVILLE USES THEM, UH, ON DIFFERENT LEVELS FOR ALL OF THEIR REPORT SYSTEMS. UM, THEY WOULD MEET ALL OF, AND SINCE ALL OF OUR NEEDS IN THERE AND THAT WAY WE'RE ABLE TO CLOSE OUT, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. AND IF WE DO THAT, THEY ACTUALLY, THERE'S A ONE TIME FEE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS OUR INCREASE IN PART OF THIS WAS $44,000 FOR A, IT'S A SETUP FEE. AND BASICALLY THAT FEE WOULD COVER THE INITIAL PART OF THE PROGRAMMING. AND THEN, UH, 20, THE 20,000 OR UH, 22,000 IS DUE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAMMING. AND THEN 22,000 AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT. AND TYPICALLY THAT PROCESS TAKES ABOUT A YEAR IN THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST, THAT PART OF THE YEAR. AND THEN IT WOULDN'T FOLLOW UP FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, THE FOLLOW UP, WHICH WE'D ACTUALLY SHOW A $2,000 DECREASE IN OUR SOFTWARE PROGRAM. UH, THIS HAD BUDGET COMING THROUGH THAT. SO THAT WAS THE ONE THING THAT WE WERE LOOKING THERE TO ASK AS FAR AS, UM, TO, TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO MOVE FORWARD. AND, UM, AND IF THAT'S LOOKING GOOD WITH Y'ALL, I WOULD OBVIOUSLY COME BACK IN HERE IN A, IN A FORMAL SETTING TO ASK FOR THAT, UH, FOR THE CONTRACT THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT, UH, WITH A GUARANTEE PRICE SET FOR THREE YEARS. YEAH. SO I KNOW YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ONE COMPANY NOW VERSUS SEVERAL WITH FOUR FOUR. YES. WHICH MAKES IT, IF YOU'VE GOT ISSUES, YOU'RE ONLY DEALING WITH ONE COMPANY. YES. AND THE DOLLARS ARE BE THESE FOUR VERSUS THIS ONE. HOW ARE WE ON, SO THE OVERALL, OTHER THAN THE INITIAL SETUP FEE, WHICH IS TO GET A SET, RIGHT, THE ANNUAL RECRUITING COST IS GONNA BE $2,000 LESS, OR ROUGHLY APPROXIMATELY $2,000 LESS A YEAR FOR US TO DO THIS. BEFORE, UM, I DID GET WITH NATHAN AND I, 'CAUSE I ASKED IT, I SAID, HEY, IS THIS UP BIT POSSIBLE? AND HE SEEMED TO BE SUPER EXCITED OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM, HEARD THINGS. OKAY. HE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING. I'VE SENT HIM ALL THE EMAILS THAT THEY HAD SENT ME. AND HIS THING WAS THE COUNTY WOULD'VE TO SPEND NO MONEY. WE CURRENTLY, EVERYTHING, ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. SO THERE'S NOTHING FROM HIS END OF IT THAT WOULD COST ANYTHING INTO THE COUNTY AS FAR AS TO MOVE OVER TO THAT SOFTWARE. OKAY. UM, IT WOULD JUST BE FROM OUR INITIAL PART, WHICH WE'RE PAYING FOR OUT OF OUR FUND FOR THAT 44,000 FOR THE, THAT FIRST YEAR FOR ALL THE PROGRAMMING PART. AND THEN IT'D BE A, A THREE YEAR, THREE AND A HALF YEAR CONTRACT, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT IS FOR, UM, RENEWING FROM THAT, WHICH THE OTHER PART. SO YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT MANY OUTTA THE FIRE FUND? YES, SIR. OKAY. IT, IT WOULD ALL BE, IT'D BE OH, NEGATIVE FROM NOTHING. GENERAL FUND, NOTHING, NOTHING TO NOTHING TO THE TAXPAYERS. EVERYTHING WOULD BE INTO THE FIRE FUND. THAT'S GREAT. SO, AND I BELIEVE IN, I TALKED, UM, BRANDY AND STUFF AND OKAY. WE ALL LOOKED GOOD AS FAR AS THAT. SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH IT. JUST AS LONG AS THAT'S SOUNDING SOMETHING. THAT'S, IF IT MAKES YOUR JOB EASIER, YOU IF YOU SHOULD, IT'D BE WELL, IT AND THE PLUS THE PROGRAM VERSUS FOUR. YES. AND NOT ALL THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS WERE CS COMPLIANT. SO WE HAD TO BE, MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T PUT CERTAIN REPORTS INTO THAT AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANYMORE. OKAY. 'CAUSE THIS PROGRAM, THEY, THEY MANDATED ALL OUR, THEY HAVE THEIR MANDATES IN THEIR PROGRAM THAT EVERYTHING IS UNDER WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR CGI COMPLIANT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND LIKE OTHER CITIES ARE USING THEM. SO WE SHOULDN'T, AND THAT'S BEEN VETTED AND THEY'VE BEEN USING FOR A YEAR. I KNOW FRISCO'S BEEN USING FOR A LOT LONGER, BUT, OKAY. UM, SO FAR AND WE'VE, WE'VE HOKED ALL OF THEM AND WHERE PROBLEMS AND CONCERNS ARE AND EVERYTHING LOOKS REALLY GOOD SO FAR. SOUNDS GOOD. SO, NO, NOTHING COMPLAINTS. WE'RE EXCITED IF WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. OKAY. UM, OUTSIDE THAT, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL KNOW OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY. UM, WE HAVE FOUND A LOT OF OTHER, IN A SENSE, CAN WE REFER TO 'EM AS A LEGAL BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY. UH, SPECIFICALLY WE HAD FOUND LIKE, UH, 682 THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN WITH NO COMPLIANCE, NO PERMITS, NO NOTHING. SO WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY A, UH, ACTIVELY A AFTER THOSE PEOPLE. UH, WITH THAT, SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IS WE GET A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAT COME INTO OUR OFFICE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS IN A SENSE WITH PERSONNEL. NOTHING CHANGING, NOTHING DOLLAR MINDS ON THERE. BUT, UH, CHRISTY DICKEY, SHE'S PRETTY MUCH OUR VOICE AND FACE THERE IN THE OFFICE. UM, SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON. SHE'S VERY CUSTOMER SERVICE, FRIENDLY, ORIENTED. UM, SHE ANSWERS EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS THE BEST SHE CAN. AND WHAT SHE DID IS SHE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THESE THINGS 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL THESE, THE JOBS OF THESE INSPECTORS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ELSE. SHE WENT TO INSPECTOR SCHOOL AND TO BECOME CERTIFIED INSPECTOR. UM, TO WHERE NOW SHE CAN GIVE A LOT MORE EDUCATED ANSWERS FROM THE [00:15:01] INITIAL PART OF WHEN PEOPLE, THOSE PHONE CALLS COME IN THERE FROM HER PREVIOUS ROLE OF WHERE SHE WOULD KIND OF DIRECT THOSE TO ONE OF US AS WE'RE IN AND OUT OF THE OFFICE AND THINGS. SO SHE'S, UH, SO SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO, TO DO THAT. SO THAT WAY WE ARE HAVING A LOT MORE EFFICIENCY AS THESE PROGRAMS COME, OR, UH, AS THESE CUSTOMERS, UH, COME THROUGH OUR PORTAL WITH PERMITS, SHE'S ACTUALLY ABLE TO DIRECT THEM WITH BETTER INFORMATION, UH, AS WELL AS, SO WE'VE SEEN OUR ERROR RATE FOR PERMITS HAVING TO BE RESTRUCTURED, DROP DRAMATICALLY BY HER KNOWLEDGE AND CERTIFICATIONS THAT SHE'S LOOKING AT WITH THAT. UM, SO ACTUALLY, SO WHAT WE WERE ASKING FROM HER IS THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, IF Y'ALL WERE GOOD WITH THIS AND MOVING, AND I TALKED TO BRANDY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING MORE ON THAT PART OF, UH, OUR PART-TIME BUDGET WITH, UM, THE SALARY THAT WE HAVE INTO THERE. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE THAT REALLY WELL. AND WHAT I WANNA DO IS, IS TAKE, UH, SOME MONEY OFF OF OUR PART-TIME FUND OR OUR LINE ITEM AND MOVE IT OVER TO HER SALARY TO GIVE HER TO THE ROLE OF CHANGE HER FROM A CLERK TO AN INSPECTOR. AND OBVIOUSLY I'D BRING THAT BACK UP IN HERE TO MORE FORMALLY MOVE THAT OVER WITH THAT, WITH THAT PAY INCREASE IN THERE. BUT I'M NOT WANTING, I, I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR. WE'RE NOT WANTING ANY MORE PERSONNEL. WE WANNA DO, WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF CHANGE HER TITLE OF THAT BECAUSE OF WHERE SHE'S AT IN THE OFFICE NOW, WE'RE NOT WANTING TO REALLY CHANGE, FOR THE MOST PART, ANYTHING OF WHAT SHE'S DOING. SHE'LL STILL BE IN THE OFFICE. SHE'S GONNA BE THAT IN A SENSE INSPECTOR THAT'S IN THE OFFICE THAT'S HANDLING THAT ONE-ON-ONE, UH, WALKUP, UH, THE WALKUP CITIZENS WHO WERE FILING FOR PERMITS AND AS WELL AS ON THE PHONE. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO TRY TO ADD HER TO THE FIELD. WE WANNA LEAVE HER IN THAT ADMINISTRATION KIND OF POSITION UP IN FRONT TO, TO DEAL WITH THOSE WALK-INS AND THROUGH THERE. BUT WITH HER GAINED KNOWLEDGE OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, WELL, AND SHE'S JUST CUTTING IT DOWN. I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN GREAT WITH THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING THERE. SO IT'S NOT A, UM, AND THAT KIND OF, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MAYBE CONFUSING THERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S NOT ANY OTHER MONEY IN THERE. IT'S JUST MOVING SOME PART-TIME MONEY OVER TO HER TO GIVE HER THAT SUPPLEMENT FOR THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT SHE'S RIGHTFULLY OWNED, UH, OR EARNED. UM, AND TO ALLOW HER TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THE JOB THAT SHE'S FAR EXCEEDED THERE IN THE FRONT OFFICE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO YOU'LL DO AWAY WITH THE CLERK POSITION, MOVE THIS TO A, A, UH, INSPECTOR POSITION, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. IN IN A SENSE, YES. AND BUT SHE, BECAUSE OF HER CLASSIFICATION, HER TRAINING, SHE COULD GO OUT IN THE FIELD IF SO NECESSARY. SHE COULD, SHE'S QUALIFIED TO DO THAT. SHE COULD, SHE COULD ABSOLUTELY COME OUT AND HELP US IN ANY OTHER FILM, UH, ANY OTHER, UM, TASK OF, OF A FIELD INSPECTOR. BUT WE'RE NOT BECAUSE SHE JUST DISQUALIFIED AS THE OTHER ONES. ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE SAYING BY WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING AND COMPLETING OF THE CERTIFICATIONS SHE'S HAS, SHE ABSOLUTELY COULD, SHE COULD GO OUT AND DO ANY OF THE FIELD INSPECTIONS THAT ANYBODY ELSE IN THE OFFICE CAN. UH, BUT WE JUST WANNA FOCUS HER IN THAT OFFICE WHERE SHE'S BEEN SO, SO VITAL AT THAT INITIAL POINT THERE. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT TRYING TO REPLACE THAT OR TRYING TO ADD A CLERK OR ANYTHING ELSE JUST BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF, OF HONESTLY THAT, THAT THAT TITLE OF A CLERK AND WHERE THAT GOES WITH THAT. UM, IT'S GREAT FOR THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY CAN DO, BUT WE JUST HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE CALL WITH TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON, HEY, HOW ARE WE DOING THIS PERMIT? OR HOW ARE WE CALCULATING THESE THINGS? UM, YOU KNOW, AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER HOW, WHAT PERMIT THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY FILE FOR. SO WITHOUT HAVING THAT, IN A SENSE, THAT CERTIFICATION, A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT'S UH, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT FOR THEM TO BE CLEAR OF WHAT PERMITS THEY'RE NEEDING. SO BY HER HAVING THIS CERTIFICATION, AND REALLY THAT'S WHERE IT'S REALLY HELPED US BY INSTEAD OF, HEY, SHE'S TAKING THAT PHONE CALL, I'M GONNA PASS THIS TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHEN THEY GET BACK IN FROM INSPECTIONS. AND SO THEN WE'RE KIND OF HAVING TO PLAY FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND IT JUST KIND OF EATS UP INTO EVERYBODY'S TIME WITH THAT. UM, AS WELL AS THERE'S SOMEBODY JUST SAYS, WELL, I'M JUST GONNA APPLY FOR THIS. AND THEN WE, WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND WHERE THE NIGHTMARE GOES IN WHICH WE SAY IS, IF SOMEBODY FILES FOR SOMETHING AND THEY PAY THE FEES AND IT'S A WRONG FEE, WE, THAT WHOLE REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM OF HAVING TO REIMBURSE, CANCEL THAT, REIMBURSE THEM YEAH. AND START FRESH. THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TASK IS TO GO THROUGH. SO THAT'S WHAT, BY HER DOING WHAT SHE'S ALREADY BEEN DOING AND HONESTLY SHE'S BEEN DOING IT. I MEAN THAT'S PART OF THE THINGS SHE'S BEEN BENEFITING OUR OFFICE WITH THAT. OKAY. UH, WE'RE ABLE TO CUT THOSE ERRORS DOWN. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WANNA CHANGE CLASSIFICATIONS AND WE'VE NOT OKAYED ANY OF 'EM SO FAR. SO THIS IS DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE. OH YES. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE MONEY, WE'RE JUST WANTING TO MOVE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO BE CLEAR, THIS ISN'T OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND, THIS IS OUTTA THE FIRE FUND. RIGHT. IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THAT. AND WE'RE JUST WANTING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF THE PART-TIME MONEY OVER TO HER WITH A RECLASSIFICATION OF WHAT HER TITLE, UH, OF REALLY MORE OR LESS REALISTICALLY OF WHAT SHE'S ACTUALLY DOING, UM, IS BY ANSWERING THOSE. 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND. THEY WON'T DO THE SAME THING. SO WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL WHAT WE DO HERE. A A ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD BRING HER UP TO THAT POSITION WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE FIRE CODE FUND? YES. HER REGULAR BASE IS STILL COMING OUT [00:20:01] OF THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. QUESTIONS? NO, IT'S JUST, WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW IT. THAT'S JUST OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. TRYING TO CHANGE TITLES OR SWITCHING STUFF AROUND TO GET THAT EXTRA PAY. AND IT, IT'S JUST A, IT JUST KEEPS GETTING GROWING INTO MORE AND MORE. SO, LIKE I SAID, WHAT TO LOOK AT THAT. SO YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO BE CLEAR WITH, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING NEW IN THERE. I JUST, SHE'S PERFORMING THIS DUTY AND SHE'S BEEN DOING THAT FOR A WHILE. AND FROM WITH THAT IS TO BE FAIR INTO THAT TITLE OF WHAT SHE'S DOING. 'CAUSE I'LL BE, I DON'T WANT THAT TO STOP BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HELPING THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, AS WITH THAT PROCESS. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL WE'RE IN A SENSE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. OKAY. AND SO KELLY, GOOD. GOOD. I'M GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU MIKE. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST TWO MORE ROUNDS, SO, OKAY. NO PROBLEM. YOU BET. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT IS THE LAST ONE FOR THIS MORNING. WE WON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL UH, ONE O'CLOCK. ONE O'CLOCK. UH, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND HERE PLEASE. SO, UH, WE WILL CONVENE BACK THEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE LATE. THEY, THEY'D START FINDING YOU GETTING, OKAY, WE'RE BACK ON HERE AT ONE O'CLOCK. WE'RE STILL BACK IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP COMING UP NEXT. OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR LEE WILEY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GOING TO NEXT OUR STAFF. IS HE, IT'S NOT HERE TO PICK UP LATER OR, I, I DON'T THINK HE'S GONNA BE BACK TODAY, SO WE DON'T WANT, I DON'T KNOW. SO I SHOULD MAIL IT TO HIM. YEAH. HE'LL BE HERE IN THE MORNING. WHAT DO Y'ALL GONNA DO WITH THE STUFF THAT YOU ARE LAYING HERE? UH, GIVE IT TO ASHLEY AND WE'LL GET IT. I CAN MAKE SURE WE GET, YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL GET TO HIM. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. UM, HOW Y'ALL DOING? WE'RE GREAT. I'M FIRST Y THAT MEANS YOU'RE GONNA BE SLEEPY AFTER LUNCH. DID Y'ALL EAT LUNCH? YES. I KNOW YOU, I I I GUESSED THAT YOU ATE LUNCH. OH, YES. YES. HE TELLS ME ALL THE TIME HE CAN'T MISS LUNCH. OKAY. I HAD GOTTEN, I TOLD MICHELLE AS WE WERE THROWING IN THINGS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERY TIME THAT I GIVE A SPIEL, YOU ALWAYS WANNA KNOW WHAT, HOW MUCH, DOESN'T MATTER HOW BEAUTIFULLY I THINK I'M ARGUING, SO I'M GONNA SAY THIS, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANNA LISTEN TO ME, NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT LISTENING, UH, THE JUICE IS ON THE SUMMARY OF THE BUDGET REQUEST BEHIND TAB ONE. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA KNOW. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO, UM, I I STILL DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S QUIET 'CAUSE THE TOTAL UP THERE IS 413 AND THEN THERE'S A CHANGE DOWN THERE WITH THE GRANT AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR. SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THIS IS ONE OF THREE MEETINGS. SO WE'LL GET IT ALL WORKED OUT. YES. 'CAUSE I LOOKED AT THAT NUMBER AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT. YEAH. AND SHE WAS PUTTING IT TOGETHER. I'M LIKE, I DON'T WANNA BE LATE. SO. YEAH, I KNOW. SO LET ME, FIRST THING, UH, RANDY, I WAS, I THINK I'D MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, KIND OF MINISTERIAL MS. KAREN LIKED IT, BUT IT DRIVES US CRAZY. 'CAUSE FOR US WE HAVE THE MOST SENIOR PROSECUTOR OR THE SENIORITY, THEY HAVE IT AS A THREE. WE WANT THAT AS A ONE. SO WE'VE CHANGED THAT. I KNOW NOBODY CARES, BUT ON THE WORKSHEET IT SURE THROWS US OFF. SO THAT'S A MINISTERIAL THING. THAT'S NOT A MONEY THING. SO WE'RE GONNA SWITCH THAT. SO LIKE A CHIEF OF A COURT IS ACTUALLY ACTUALLY A NUMBER ONE AND THE NEWEST IS A THREE. AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING. IS THAT ON THIS SHEET HERE? IT IT'S OKAY. IT IS AND IT'S ON MY REQUEST SHEET, SO OKAY. IT'S CLEAR. SO THAT'S NOT MONEY. THE OTHER THING IS, LAST YEAR FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T HERE, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, COMMISSIONER'S LANE CROW, WE REORGANIZED THE OFFICE SOMEWHAT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. UM, THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FIRST ASSISTANT. WE DIDN'T FOR A LONG TIME. WE, MARK WAS THE CRIMINAL TRIAL CHIEF, KAREN WAS THE CIVIL CHIEF. AND IT WE'RE JUST GETTING TOO BIG. PEOPLE ASKED ME, I I BELIEVE THE NUMBER, IF WE HAD EVERYBODY FILLED, WE'RE AT 54 IN THE OFFICE. 26 ATTORNEYS, NINE INVESTIGATORS, OR 10 COUNTING THE TASK FORCE. UM, PROBABLY ADDING ANOTHER ATTORNEY. SO THAT WOULD HAVE US AT 26. THE BALANCE IS PARALEGALS INTAKE. UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SCOPE OF THE OFFICE. 'CAUSE I, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW LARGE IT IS. AND THAT'S, UM, WHERE WE ARE. I'M SURE THE SHERIFF, I CAN SEE HIM CAN TELL YOU WHEN HE STARTED THEIR SIZE AND THEN HOW WE'VE GROWN TO KEEP UP WITH IT. YEAH. AND A LOT OF THE WAYS WE'VE GROWN AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT WE NEED HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF GRANT DRIVEN. AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ADOPTED, IT'S WORKED WELL FOR US, [00:25:01] THE DIFFERENT GRANTS. SO JUST UNDERSTAND THAT'S PART OF THE REORGANIZATION AND THE, AND AND IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. SO I'M JUST GONNA GO, 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE CAN WHIP DOWN REAL QUICK UNDER TAB TWO. AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED I THINK SOME OF THESE NUMBERS BACK OUT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT TWO WORDS, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED, THOSE ARE INCREASES. AND YOU PROBABLY WANNA KNOW WHY. AND SO IF YOU, IF YOU CAN DO LIKE ME OR YOU CAN LISTEN TO ME TALK, WHICH COULD BE KIND OF ANNOYING, WE CAN FLIP BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN TWO, WHAT I'M REQUESTING IN FIVE WITH THE EXPLANATION. BUT I'LL GO OVER REAL QUICK FOR YOU. WE'RE THINKING WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT MONEY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A CAPITAL TRIAL BASED ON AN AWFUL MURDER THAT HAPPENED WHERE AN OFFICER WAS KILLED IN TERRELL, JACOB KENZA. AND WITH THOSE TRIAL EXPENDERS WE'RE JUST SAYING EXPENDITURES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE. THAT'S NOT EVEN THE EXPENDITURE OF THE DEFENSE IS GONNA HAVE. WE'RE JUST PUTTING 50,000 AS A PLACEHOLDER. WE ALSO, SO AGAIN, THIS IS AN OFFSET. WE KNOW THAT MS. QUARTER HAS SOUGHT, UM, GRANTS FOR US BACK FROM THE UH, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL WITH GETTING A GRANT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN THE OTHER CALF MURDER WE'VE DONE. AND THEN WE WORKED UP ON ANOTHER ONE, WHICH WAS BROWNLOW. ALL THOSE HAVE HAPPENED IN 13 AND THEY DID REIMBURSE THAT MONEY. SO I ANTICIPATE WE'RE ASKING, WE'RE PLACE HOLDING. IT COULD BE MORE, IT COULD BE LESS. UM, BUT THIS IS, WE ARE GONNA BE SEEKING THE DEATH PENALTY ON THIS. AND THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE DEFENSE. UM, AND SO JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE STATE HAS TO HIRE, IF THEY HIRE EXPERTS, WHICH THEY WILL, WE HAVE TO HIRE OWN EXPERTS AND WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO MAKE THAT REQUEST. SO I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT'S AN INCREASE THAT'S UNEXPECTED. IF WE DON'T GET TO, IT'LL GO RIGHT BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. WE LOOKED AT, UM, SOME OF THESE, UM, ON OUR OPERATING EXPENSE LINE ITEMS HAVE GONE DOWN THAT WE COULD SEE THAT WE DIDN'T USE THEM. SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN SEE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN STAFF WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, A LITTLE INCREASE ON JUST OFFICE FURNITURE. ALSO, GUYS, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT TAKING AN AREA AND WE JUST WANNA WONDER WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO ON THIS. THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR ALREADY THIS YEAR IN OUR LINE ITEM TO CREATE SOME CHANGES THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE SPACE. UM, AND I JUST THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT THIS YEAR. IF WE HAVE THE MONEY. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? DON'T, DON'T YOU THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT OR WAIT ON THE NEW BUDGET AND PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN THERE WHERE, HOW MUCH MONEY WE TALKING ABOUT? I THINK, LET ME LOOK RIGHT QUICK. I WROTE IT. WHICH, WHERE IS IT IN HERE? EARLY. I WILL DO IT FOR YOU. WE CREATED, UH, I THINK MICHELLE HAD TALKED TO CASEY ABOUT THAT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK UNDER THREE, I BROKE DOWN THE OPERATING BUDGET INCREASE EXPENSES AND I HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND IT'S LINE ITEM ON ONE 14 UNDER EQUIPMENT OFFICER FURNITURE. THIS AMOUNT IS AN ESTIMATE TO SET UP FOR ADDITIONAL WORKSPACES IN OUR OFFICE. MM-HMM . WE REQUEST AN ACTUAL QUOTE FROM PURCHASING AWAITING THAT NUMBER. OKAY. WE HAVE FUNDS IN ONE 14 REMAINING IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I, I THINK IT, IT IS ACTUALLY OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND FURNITURE. WE HAVE THE MONEY 'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE ROUGH ESTIMATES 20. AND WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THERE. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE DO IT NOW? I WOULD DO IT NOW IF WE HAVE THE MONEY, IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED. LET'S LET'S DO THE MONEY NOW BEFORE, YEAH, THAT'S NEXT YEAR. THAT'S WHAT I TOLD MICHELLE. BUT WE HAD THOUGHT BETTER TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY'S THERE. AND SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE OPERATING EXPENSES THAT ARE GOING UP, YOU CAN SEE BEHIND TAB THREE, I THINK I SAID FIVE BEFORE, THE DIFFERENT REASONS, UM, ABOUT THE GRANT. WE ARE TRYING MORE CASES. AND I HAD ALSO JUST FY IF YOU WANNA KNOW, WE SEND THIS OUT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED UNDER SEVEN, UM, OUR QUARTERLY UPDATES, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF A LITTLE THING. WE SEND A LAW ENFORCEMENT SOME CASES AND INFORMATION, SO IT MIGHT BE BORING. BUT ON TOP OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT WE DO IT QUARTERLY AND IT KIND OF HAS OUR CASES AND BRAGS AND THINGS WE'RE DOING. AND IN THAT VEIN, WE'RE GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FOR EXPERTS. WE CAN SEE THAT WE'RE SPENDING MORE IN THAT LINE ITEM. AND SO THAT UH, EXPERT LINE ITEM EXPENSE IS UH, THEY'RE ALL FOUR 30, BUT ONE 60 I HADN'T SWITCHED YET. THE SAME WOULD GO FOR TRAIN EDUCATION. EVEN THOUGH OUR LINE ITEM RIGHT NOW IS PRETTY HEALTHY. THOSE AMOUNTS WE'RE ASKING FOR ON THAT. I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION ON THE NEXT ONE, WHICH I HAD WAS ONE 10 SUSPENDED IF I'VE GOT IT. MM-HMM . UH, WE HAVE YOU ON, WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH AND I THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN ON REPAIR BECAUSE OF ENTERPRISE. BUT OIL AND GAS PRICES, WE'RE THINKING WE MIGHT HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATOR THAT WE'RE GONNA GET FROM THE GRANT, WHICH I'LL TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT THE GRANT IN A [00:30:01] MINUTE. OKAY. UM, THE SAME THING WITH SOFTWARE. THESE ARE INCREMENTAL CHANGES. UH, EACH ONE A THOUSAND OR 2000 OFFICE SUPPLIES BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE I THINK ARE REASONABLE REQUEST. THOSE ARE MINIMAL MINIMUM. SO LET'S GO BACK TO WHAT'S ALWAYS THE TOUGH ONE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT, LEMME MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ELSE WHEN OPERATING. THAT WAS IN YELLOW. OKAY. PAM FILED THAT. UM, WE'VE GOT ON THE TABLE AS WE DID BEFORE. SO A COUPLE GRANTS WE'VE GOT THAT YOU GUYS COVER AND WE GET REIMBURSED. BRENDA, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH THE SPECIAL CRIME UNIT GETTING OUR MONEY BACK AS WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND THAT'S ANOTHER STATE FUNDING THAT'S GONNA TAKE US THROUGH, UH, THIS YEAR, 25. AND IT'LL TAKE US INTO 26, 26, I BELIEVE. 26. SO WE'RE COVERED. AND THAT PROVIDES AN ATTORNEY FOR US. MM-HMM . IT PROVIDES A PARALEGAL ASSIST FOR US ON THAT. MM-HMM . AND IT PROVIDES BRIAN REED'S POSITION AN INVESTIGATOR. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED. AND SO ALWAYS, IF THOSE GRANTS, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE TAG'S GONNA KEEP FULFILLING THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT THAT. WE'VE ALSO BEEN GIVEN, AND Y'ALL, WHEN YOU SAID, UH, THAT SKIS AT THE TAC, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THAT THE TAC HAS TOLD US THAT WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT. OUR SCORE WAS HIGH AND SO WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT AND IT'S GONNA BE FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE. BUT IN THE MISDEMEANOR COURTS, THEY HAD PROVIDED YEARS BEFORE FOR A FAMILY VIOLENCE, CHILD ABUSE AND FELONY. BUT WE ARE SEEING THAT WE ARE HAVING A LOT MORE SERIOUS CASES ACTUALLY IN THE MISDEMEANOR. AND THAT WAY WE CAN SEE IF WE NEED THAT MANY PEOPLE AND IF THAT WILL HELP. SO THEY'VE AWARDED US THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU THAT CAVEAT. WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF YOU, THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE FUNDING, BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE MONEY IN THAT, THAT GRANT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE SENT YOU GUYS A COPY OF IT. I I HAVE. I WILL GIVE YOU MY COPY 'CAUSE I CAN IF THAT WOULD HELP YOU THAT AWARD. AND THESE ARE ALL BASES AND IF YOU GUYS WANT ONE, IT'S 1 55 8 9 0 1 AND IT'S AN INVESTIGATOR AND A MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE CAUSE OUR SCORE AWARDED WAS THE 86 PERCENTILE. AND THEN THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU THE CAVEAT BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY'S THERE. SO WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE THAT MONEY PUT IN THERE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRANT TOTAL, A LOT OF THE MONEY WE'RE REQUESTING IS GOING TO BE COVERED BY GRANTS BY GRANT. YEAH. BUT WE WANT IT THERE. SO IF S***T WAS HERE, HE'D SAY, SO WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ASKING ME TO PAY FOR? THAT'S NOT COVERED. RIGHT? YES. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ALL ASKING FOR. SO LET'S DRILL DOWN WITH THE SALARIES ON PAGE BEHIND YOUR TAB TWO. I THINK I'VE GOT THE, I GOT SOME BEHIND FOUR. IS IT FOUR? OKAY, THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO FOUR. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE JUICE IS. AND WHEN YOU RUN UP THAT TOTAL, I'LL TELL Y'ALL HOW AND UM, THE MISDEMEANOR PEOPLE ARE LISTENING. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY. SO IF WE GO FROM THE BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM UP, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, AND THIS IS HOW I CAME WITH WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INCREASE. BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING RIGHT NOW I HAVE A FELONY TWO POSITION IN TWO PLACES. WE STILL CALL THE CIVIL PEOPLE FELONY. SO SINCE DEBBIE'S LEFT, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REHIRE AT THAT PAY. I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN A COURT, IN A FELONY TWO POSITION. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REHIRE IF WE HAVE A MISDEMEANOR OPENING SINCE COVID, WE HAD A FEW PROBLEMS. WE'VE JUST, WE THAT'S, THAT'S GONE AWAY BECAUSE YOU GUYS CAUGHT THE BOTTOM, THE MISDEMEANOR PEOPLE UP WITH THAT ENTRY SALARY, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD. SO THE BABIES THAT ARE ENTERING WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD STARTING SALARY. WE'RE PRETTY COMPETITIVE WITH ELLIS. WE'RE PRETTY COMPE. WE'RE ACTUALLY EVEN COMPETITIVE WITH DALLAS. THEY PAY MORE. BUT I'M ABLE TO HELP WITH THE SB 22. SO I'M LOOKING STRAIGHT AT BASE. BUT WHERE I'M GETTING HER, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL MORE ATTRACTIVE, IS AN VERO FOR EXAMPLE, PAYS LESS, BUT THEY HAVE LESS ATTORNEYS. SO THE MONEY FOR THE SB 22, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE GOVERNORS DID TO GIVE PROSECUTORS MORE INCENTIVE FOR RURAL, THEY GET, THEY STILL MAKE MORE MONEY EVEN IF THEIR BASE IS LOWER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THEY HAVE FEWER BECAUSE THEY HAVE FEWER PEOPLE. SO SAME MONEY. THAT'S RIGHT. EXACT SAME AMOUNT. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT IT. SO I, YOU KNOW, I'VE GIVEN PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, STUDIES. BUT I THINK NOW WE KIND OF KNOW, AND Y'ALL KIND OF KNOW FROM TALKING TO THEIR COMMISSIONERS, KIND OF WHERE WE SIT. SO WE COME IN PRETTY STRONG AND GOD WILLING, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE EVERYBODY A COLA, THEY'LL BE BUMPED UP AND THEY'LL BE PRETTY GOOD. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE TOP AND I GO THROUGH MY FELONY, I'M NOT SAYING [00:35:01] THIS TO PEANUT, PEOPLE ARE NOT SKILLED. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. SO I, TO BE CAREFUL, I'M LOOKING AND THAT'S THE TALLY OF NUMBERS THAT I'M ASKING FOR OUTSIDE OF MY OPERATING. SO YOU START WITH, AND IT'S JUST ALPHABETICAL IN THE MIDDLE, WHY IS THERE A BIG JUMP WITH THE PERSON THAT'S THE CRIMINAL CHIEF? IT'S BECAUSE I PUT HER IN A SPOT THAT MARK HAD BEFORE. SO THE PERSON THAT THE CRIMINAL TRIAL CHIEF MANAGES ALL THE CRIMINAL COURTS AS WELL AS HANDLES THE COURT CHIEF, HER SALARY WAS DOWN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE YEAR BEFORE THE POSITION WAS GIVEN TO HER. AND THEN MARK HAS ASSUMED THE FIRST IS THIS POSITION. KAREN OBVIOUSLY IS VERY SKILLED. YOU DON'T DO GOVERNMENT LAW AT THE LEVEL SHE DOES. AND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS, AND WE GET INTO THIS EVERY TIME AND YOU GUYS CAN DO, I PICKED NUMBERS HERE, THEY'RE NOT A REAL PERCENTAGE WITH THE FELONIES. I ASKED FOR A PERCENTAGE. I THINK THAT MADE SENSE IS WE'LL GET INTO THIS BACK AND FORTH A SALARY ADJUSTMENT PLUS THE COST OF LIVING ONE OR THE OTHER. I'M ASKING FOR BOTH. IF WE WANNA KEEP PEOPLE OR WE WANNA ATTRACT PEOPLE, WE'VE GOTTA PAY PEOPLE MORE. I JUST, I CAN'T, SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR EVERYBODY. I'M ASKING FOR THE POSITIONS THAT I, I CAN'T FILL. AND OR IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE LEFT, I'D HAVE A HARD TIME REPLACING THEM WITH, NOW Y'ALL MIGHT SAY DIFFERENT AND SAY, WHICH IS MORE BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE'S SALARIES ENOUGH THAT 5% WOULD BE MORE. I'M ASKING FOR BOTH TO BE CLEAR, WHEN I HIT THE FELONY TWOS, I JUST ASK FOR A STRAIGHT 5% BECAUSE WHEN I PULLED LIKE A NUMBER AND, AND DEB WAS A FELONY TOO. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER FOR F1 25, HER NUMBER, HER SAME POSITION IN THE OTHER COUNTY, ELLIS NOT EVEN INCLUDING SB 22 WAS 20 MORE THAN THAT. SO IT WAS 1 25. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE POSITIONS I CAN'T FILL ARE BOTH FELONY TWO POSITIONS. ONE'S IN CIVIL FELONY AND ONE IS, UH, JUDGE GRAY'S FELONY TWO POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT AND THESE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN VACANT. WELL, HOWEVER LONG DEBBIE'S BEEN GONE AND HOWEVER LONG THE OTHER ATTORNEY WAS GONE. AND SO I'M NOT ABLE TO FILL HIM. THAT MEANS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF. AND INSTEAD OF SAYING JUST ACROSS THE BOARD, I PICK PEOPLE THAT ARE HARDER TO FILL. I CAN GET PEOPLE FRESH OUTTA LAW SCHOOL AND TEACH 'EM HOW TO BE A BABY LAWYER. BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE HANDLING VERY SERIOUS CASES. I'VE GOT SOME PE I, I GOT ONE LADY, I HOPE SHE DOESN'T LEAVE THAT CAME FROM DALLAS JUST BECAUSE SHE LIKES THE WAY WE DO THINGS. BUT SHE DID ASK ME THE OTHER DAY, SHE SAID, WELL I THOUGHT WE WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WE'D GET . AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CONTROL THAT. AND SO, I MEAN THEY DRIVE EVERY DAY FROM DALLAS 'CAUSE THEY LIKE IT. IT'S AGAINST THE TRAFFIC. UM, BUT I THINK IF WE PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, I MAY LOSE SOME MORE PEOPLE IF WE DON'T DO BOTH. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HOPE I'M WRONG OR I HOPE YOU DO WHAT I'M ASKING. AND SO THAT'S THE NUMBER. YOU ASKED ME THE NUMBER AND I GAVE YOU A HIGHER NUMBER. YEAH. THAT'S THE NUMBER I'M TALKING ABOUT. IF YOU ADD THAT LINE UP ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE GREEN, THAT'S THE NUMBER. OKAY. AND THAT PLUS THE COLA. IF WE GIVE A COLA, WHAT IF THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS AND THERE'S A FEW ON THE BACK PAGE. UM, ONE OF THE, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE, SOME OF THOSE YOU'RE GOING, WHY DID YOU DO THAT? AND THAT WAS TO EQUALIZE, YOU KNOW HOW YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE SALARIES AND WONDER HOW DO PEOPLE GET OUTTA WHACK WITH EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S DOING THE EXACT SAME JOB? YEAH. THEY HAD JUST GOT OUTTA WHACK. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. THEY, THE PEOPLE, YOU COULD, THAT'S WHY I PUT EVERYBODY SALARY. THE PEOPLE ABOVE THEM WERE MAKING THAT, THE PEOPLE BELOW 'EM WERE MAKING IT, BUT THEIRS IS LESS AND THEY DO THE SAME JOB. SO I, I TRIED TO PRINT THAT OUT AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, YOU CAN UM, ASK ME IF YOU SEE SOME OF THE LOWER SALARIES. UM, YEAH. OKAY. I SEE ONE OF THESE PARALEGAL ONES. WELL YOU GET THE ONE, TWOS AND THREES. HOW DO THEY MOVE FROM A ONE TO A THREE? DEPENDS. SO LET'S TAKE, UM, UH, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE SOMEBODY. IS IT TIME OR TRAINING OR KIND OF BOTH MERIT OR? SO LIKE MOST OF THE ONES ARE, YOU'RE A RECEPTIONIST. THEY MAY HAVE A PARALEGAL LICENSE, BUT THEY COME IN AND WE'RE PENDING A LICENSE AND THAT'S WHY WE DO A LOT OF EXPLANATION ABOUT LICENSE ON THE BACK AND CERTIFICATIONS. OKAY. SO ONE THING WE HAVE DONE, WHICH I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THAT WHEN THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE RETIRED, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF TALK AMONG ATTORNEYS TO ACTUALLY HAVE PARALEGALS. I MAKE THE EQUIVALENT OF LIKE A NURSE PRACTITIONER. MM-HMM . ACTUALLY PRACTICE LAW. SO WE'VE WRITTEN AT THE BACK. SO WE'VE GOT YOU, YOU'LL HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, OH, MY PERSON HAS A CERTIFICATE. OKAY. SO WE STARTED THAT WITH CERTIFICATE [00:40:01] PAY. WELL, I ACTUALLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE THAT ARE LICENSED WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AS PARALEGAL CERTIFIED. NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW THEM TO PRACTICE UNDER AN ATTORNEY. AND THAT IS DIFFERENT. THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT. AND THEY HAD TO SIT FOR A BAR EXAM FOR PARALEGALS FOR A DAY TO TAKE THAT. SO, AND THEY HAVE TO DO CONTINUING EDUCATION. SO THAT'S ONE. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND THAT ENTER IN ARE BRAND NEW. AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE ONES THEY JUST STARTED, SOME OF THE THREES HAVE BEEN THERE. THEY'VE GOT EXPERIENCE, THEY'VE GOT THEIR CERTIFICATION. SO WE BASE IT ON TIME CERTIFICATION AND, AND JUST LIKE THE ATTORNEYS, UH, WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS, BUT THE FELONY PARALEGALS ARE MORE SKILLED. SO MOST OF THE HIGHER PARALEGALS ARE DOING FELONY WORK. OKAY. ON HERE WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE SUPERVISING, SOME ARE EXECUTIVE. KINDA EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE THERE TO US. WELL THE SUPERVISING HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WHOLE UNIT. MM-HMM. SO LET'S TAKE A SUPERVISING INTAKE. WE HAVE, UH, FIVE PEOPLE IN INTAKE, OR FOUR PEOPLE IN INTAKE. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR ANOTHER INTAKE POSITION IN TOTAL. 'CAUSE WE HAVE WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IN INTAKE. WE HAVE TWO WE'RE REQUESTING JUST BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE OFFICE HADN'T GOTTEN THERE. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR ONE'S A SUPERVISOR. SO A SUPERVISOR DOES THAT. AN EXECUTIVE SECRETARY WORKS WITH EITHER ME, MARK, OR MAYBE ROBIN NOW. OKAY. SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE EXECUTIVES IN THE OFFICE. OKAY. THEN, UH, YOU'VE GOT A SUPERVISOR OVER, UM, WHAT WE, THE, THE OTHER AREA WE HAVE IS ALL THE CIVIL PEOPLE. SO LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH KAREN, THERE'S A, HER MAIN PERSON IS MICHELLE BORK, BUT SHE ALSO SUPERVISES TWO OTHER PEOPLE. SO THEY'RE, THEY ACTUALLY ARE DOING SUPERVISORY JOBS. OKAY. SO THE OTHER ADDITIONAL THING I WAS GETTING THERE IS WITH ALL THESE CASES AND THE GROWTH, I WILL TELL Y'ALL I'M, I'M RUNNING INTO THIS PROBLEM AND WE CAN KEEP DOING IT THIS WAY. I'M ASKING FOR TWO, KNOWING THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU'LL PROBABLY CALL ME AND GO, CAN YOU LIVE WITH ONE IS INTAKE IS WHERE ALL THE CASES COME IN AND THEY CAN GET BOTTLENECK. THEY DON'T PHYSICALLY WALK 'EM IN ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FILING SYSTEM WHERE THE CASES COME IN AND WE'VE GONE FROM THAT MASS TO, FROM V TWO NEXT TO GUARD. FINE. SO THE CASES COME INTO THE OFFICE, WE TO, TO STAY CAUGHT UP. WE ARE LOOKING AT PEOPLE GETTING A LOT OF COMP TIME TO WORK OVER AND THEN YOU'RE HAVING TO HAVE 'EM OFF. SO WE'RE ALWAYS CHASING OUR TAIL. SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE NEED ANOTHER POSITION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN AREA THAT YOU DO THE WORK IN. AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WORKING OVER AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOOFING OFF. AND SO WE HAVE ABOUT, WHEN WE'VE WORKED OVERTIME ON THIS 150 TO 200 CASES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY ENTER. SO YOU GOTTA REMEMBER WE'VE GOT ABOUT 14 TO 15 AGENCIES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE PRIMARY AGENCIES MM-HMM . ALL THE ISD AGENCIES. WE HAVE MESQUITE THAT'S FILING MORE CASES AND WE JUST, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE FILE CASES OR FILE CASES WITH US. ONE THING I WAS VISITING WITH, UH, THIS MORNING WITH KAREN AND BRAD EXEMPT VERSUS NON-EXEMPT, WE DIDN'T NEED TO RELOOK AT ALL THOSE WE COULD. WE COULD BY THE TIME WE WHERE BACK NEXT WE COULD THE, THE SUPERVISORS IN INTAKE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, I I AGREE THE WORKERS, UM, WE'VE GOT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE MICHELLE IS MORE DOING DEFINITELY EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING AND SUPERVISING, BUT WE HAVE ALSO MOVED UP SOMEONE THAT'S OVER ALL THE PARALEGALS THAT ARE COURT PARALEGALS. YEP. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT FIVE COURTS. SO WHO'S TRAINING THEM? WHO'S TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO? YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT A NEW PERSON THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T MIND BEING EXEMPT BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPERVISORS. THE SAME THING FOR JANA. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PULL PEOPLE OFF TIME BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY POLICY ON COMP. WE HAVE TO START PAYING 'EM OR IF THEY LEAVE, I CAN'T GET ANYBODY BACK IN THEIR SHOES FOR ANOTHER MONTH. AND THEN WE'RE MORE BEHIND. YEAH. SO I CAN MAKE THAT AS A NOTE THAT WE NEED TO, UM, LOOK AT, UM, EXEMPTING PEOPLE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THEY MIGHT 'CAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THEIR COMP, BUT IT, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE DOING EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONS. UM, AGAIN, THE INTAKE IS BEHIND AND I HATE THAT BECAUSE I WANT MY CASES TO COME IN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TO GO TO A COURT. YEAH. AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING THERE AS QUICK AS THEY COULD. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO IT. AND I THINK AT TIMES OF ESSENCE, A LOT OF THESE CASES TOO, WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RULES HAVE CHANGED OUR DISCOVERY PROCESS AND WHAT WE DO WE'RE, [00:45:01] IT'S, IT'S HIGHLY TECHNICAL AND FOR YOUR READING YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE THOSE IN OUR OFFICE AND THAT THESE ARE COMING FROM THE STATE. UM, WE'VE GOT OUR DIFFERENT, UH, REVENUE FUNDS AT THE BOTTOM JUST TO GIVE YOUR IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE VERY BACK WHERE WE'VE GOT, UM, DIFFERENT, JUST SO Y'ALL WILL KNOW THAT, NOT SAYING WE COVER OUR STUFF, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE VERY HELPFUL WITH PRETRIAL DIVERSION GOING IN HASS WITH THEM WHEN THEY START A NEW EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THAT MONEY CAN BE USED AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE COUNTY. SO WE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND THE LITTLE MONEY WE'RE ROLLING BACK IN ON BOND FOR RETURN COURT COSTS ON OUR END BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND. BUT OUR PRETRIAL DIVERSION, WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY. WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY. I'M SORRY, BUT WE DO TRY TO HELP OUR PRETRIAL WITH JOHNNY. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SHERIFF STEPPED UP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR AT THE CONSTABLE, BUT I'LL JUST TELL Y'ALL AS A BRAG, I THINK OUR SPECIAL CRIME UNIT HAS REALLY MADE AN IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THE GRANT DOES NOT COVER THEIR PEOPLE. SO THEY JUST MIGHT BE THE CONSULATE OR SHERIFF. I CAN JUST TELL YOU WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT 'EM. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. YOU GOT QUESTIONS? I KNOW SOMEBODY IS UP. IF YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT AN INTERN PROGRAM MM-HMM . IF Y'ALL COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING, IF THEY'RE, I'M, I'M ASKING YOU MM-HMM . DO THEY NEED TO BE ALREADY OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL GOING TO LAW SCHOOL OR BEING ACCEPTED TO LAW SCHOOL BEFORE THEY GET TO BE AN INTERN AND MAYBE SOME STOPPING OF SOME AMOUNT. THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT HEY, YOU GET TO THE ATTORNEY, THERE'S A LOT OF TIME YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET PAID. SO THIS IS A TRAINING GROUND. WE ARE DOING THAT STEPPING STONE. WE ARE DOING THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE AN OFFICE FULL ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE NEED SOME WORKSTATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. SO SOMEBODY, AM I THE OFFICE TODAY? I WAS LIKE, WELL I'M NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONFIDENTIAL. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HIGH SCHOOLERS THAT ARE GOING TO, UH, COLLEGE THAT THINK THEY WANNA BE A LAWYER. MAYBE THEY WILL. WE'LL PAY THEM A LITTLE SOMETHING. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY ARE LESS SKILLED. BUT WE'LL PAY THEM TO GIVE 'EM A LITTLE INCENTIVE. HOPE THE KIDS THAT ARE IN, UM, LAW SCHOOL, THEY WANT THE CLERKSHIP FOR THEIR RESUME AND THEY'LL COME WORK PARTS OF THE SUMMER. YES. SO IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TOMORROW, I'M SURE YOU ARE FROM NINE TO 10 WE'RE HAVING DONUTS AND MEET THE NEW INTERNS. WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY IN JUVENILE, WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY MAJOR CRIMES. AND SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE. SO WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO, BECAUSE EARLIER YOU CATCH 'EM AND YOU GET 'EM INVESTED. I KIND OF STARTED WORKING THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO. I'VE TALKED DOWN AT BAYLOR AND BOOTCAMP 'CAUSE THEY'RE CLOSE. BEEN OVER AT UNT, UM, OVER AT A AND M. AND IF THEY LIKE YOU, THEY, THEY WILL COME. THEY WILL COME AND CALL. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A GROUP OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW AND I'VE GOT BRAND NEW LAWYERS COMING IN. I MEAN, REAL NEW LAWYERS COMING IN. SO A MISDEMEANOR. I'M SURE THE MISDEMEANOR JUDGES ARE GONNA PULL THEIR HAIR OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEY ARE TAKING THE BAR IN JULY AND THEY'RE STARTING WITH ME IN AUGUST. THEY'LL MAKE FIVE OR $6,000 LESS WHEN THEY GET THE BAR, THE BAR RESULTS COME IN, THEY PASS. LOOK HOW GOOD YOU DID WITH REBECCA. I MEAN, THERE YOU GO. PRIME. EXACTLY. AND I HAD TO ARGUE WITH JOHN. I MEAN, AND LOOK AT ALL THE FRUITS OF HER SUCCESS. SHE'S BEEN ALL OVER NORTHEAST TEXAS BECAUSE I TOOK A CHANCE, BUT YOU COULD SEE SHE HAD IT. REBECCA HAD IT. AND WHEN I SAW HER, I REMEMBER JOHN BLESSES HEART. IT'S LIKE, SHE'S NOT LICENSED. WE DON'T NEED TO HIRE. I GO, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HIRE HER. JOHN. AND SHE WAS CHAMP. SHE WAS CHAMP. AND WE LOST HER TO MONEY. JUDGE. SAY WHAT? WE LOST HER TO MONEY. YOU HEARD ME? YOUR EARS ARE GOOD. . OKAY. BUT ANYTHING ELSE? Y'ALL GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 'CAUSE THOSE ARE GOOD AND WE'LL. WE'LL, NOW THAT I, YOU HAD TWO THINGS. YOU SAID GET THAT DONE NOW AND LOOK AT EXEMPTING SUPERVISORS. YES. THOSE ARE TWO THINGS YOU ASKED ME. YES, PLEASE. AND, AND ON THE NUMBERS, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANNA KNOW? MORE SPECIFIC? WHAT'S OPERATING? WHAT'S I THINK SO, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO MORE MEETINGS OKAY. TO FINALIZE EVERYTHING. OKAY. ESPECIALLY WE DOWN CLOSER TO OUR REAL NUMBERS. YEAH, I KNOW WHERE WE ARE. YEAH. AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO WHAT WE CAN BECAUSE YEAH, I'M UNFORTUNATELY, I'M IN YOUR OFFICE TOO MUCH AND I SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON. YEAH. IT'S NOT LIKE A PLAN AND IT'S, YEAH. UH, TELL ME THE TRUTH. DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE WITH ONE OR TWO INTAKE PEOPLE? I WOULD GO AHEAD AND PLAN 'EM TWO. THAT'S JUST ME PLANNING. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S DONE. I WOULD PLAN ON DREAM. DREAM. I, I LIKE TO DREAM BIG. , YOU LIKE DREAM BIG BECAUSE WE DREAM BIG. I KNOW THE WORKLOAD. YOU SEE 'EM. I KNOW. I SEE IT EVERY DAY. WELL, JUST, HERE'S THE THING AND YOU GUYS SHOULD COME UP SOME TIME. LIKE WHEN YOU VISIT, JUST COME UP AND YOU WALK IN THEIR OFFICES. THERE ISN'T, THERE HADN'T BEEN A TIME IN MY CAREER BEEN, UH, BEING THE DA BEFORE WE GOT SO BUSY. [00:50:01] YOU KNOW, YOU COULD CATCH PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK. I COULD GET NATHAN OR WHOEVER WAS AT THE TIME RUNNING AND SEE WHAT THEY WERE ON. AIN'T NOBODY REALLY DOING THAT. THEY DON'T HAVE TIME. AND WE'RE WEARING MULTIPLE HATS, WHICH IS FINE. WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. UM, SO I'LL DO THAT. JUST INCREASE AND THEN THE OPERATING AND THEN BREAK IT DOWN SEPARATE. YES. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK I ENDED ON TIME. I STARTED THREE MINUTES LATE. AND I'M ENDING TWO MINUTES LATE. YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD. SO I'M GOOD. YEAH, I'M GOOD. OKAY. APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU. I MIGHT SIT HERE AND THE RAIN DIES DOWN IF Y'ALL ARE COOL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIGHT. EH, I WOULD MELT OUT THERE. I'M SORRY. DON'T GO OUT THERE. JUST, I NEEDED YOU TO VERIFY HOW HARD WERE WORKING THEN. YOU LEFT OF ALL CASES. WE GOT PLENTY OF THEM. YEAH. 11. OKAY, MS. MONIQUE, YOU'RE UP NEXT. ONLY YOU CAN HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE FIVE. THANK YOU. WELL, WE DID SOME A LONG TIME. Y YOU SHOULD GIMME FIVE. YES. 15. I . YEAH. SEE WELL THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. IF YOU WANT, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING ELSE EARLY. NO, YOU ALWAYS KNOW WHEN TO LEAVE. I YOU WERE EARLY. I WAS EARLY. NO PRESSURE. HE PUT PRESSURE ON ME. MR. GOING. HE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW. THANK YOU. YOU YOU'RE HERE. I GOT VISUALS. VISUALS. IT'S STILL, YEAH, SURE. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ON THERE. BRAND STILL RAINING PRETTY GOOD. YEAH, IT DID. IT'S STILL RAINING. GOOD. IT'S, I LIKE IT. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR WEEKS. OKAY. MS. MONIQUE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. DO YOU LIKE MY COVER PAGE? OH, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YES. WITH THE COURTHOUSE IN THE BACKGROUND. THAT'S JUST LIKE WISHFUL THINKING. THAT'S A, WE'RE GONNA BE THERE NEXT YEAR. SEE THAT? YOU WANNA SEE IT? SHE'S SUCH AN ARTIST. MASTER. OH, OKAY. WE'RE AWESOME. . UM, I PUT THE ORG CHART ON THE FRONT SO YOU CAN SEE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS DEPARTMENT HAS GROWN. UH, SEVEN WILL BE SEVEN YEARS OLD, OCTOBER 1ST. AND OVER TIME IT HAS, YOU KNOW, INCREASED ITS DUTIES OR WHATEVER. AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE HOW THAT'S LAID OUT IN OUR DEPARTMENT. WELL, THAT'S A GROWING COUNTY, HUH? AND YEAH, YOU'RE GROWING COUNTY AND, AND YOUR DEPARTMENT'S DOING VERY WELL. THEY ARE, THEY ARE WORKING LIKE, LIKE CHAMPS. YES. YES. BUT, UM, IT HAD BEEN A WHILE SINCE I KIND OF PUT IT TOGETHER IN A, IN A BY SECTIONS. SO I JUST DID THE ORG CHART ON THE FRONT FOR YOUR INFORMATION. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. SO, UM, I GUESS YOU WANT ME TO GO LINE BY LINE OR I CAN DO THAT. YOU CAN. THAT'D BE EASY. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, THE FIRST LINE ITEM WOULD BE THE DUES. UM, THE CURRENT BUDGET WAS 300. I'VE REQUESTED TO INCREASE IT, UM, TO 15, WHICH IS A DIFFERENCE OF 1200. UM, I HAVE ENGINEER AND STORM WATER TECHNICIANS NOW ON STAFF WHO ALSO REQUIRE CONTINUING EDUCATION AND RENEWAL OF LICENSES AND THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. UM, FOUND THAT OUT . SO I ADDED THAT TO COVER THEIR LICENSING. SURE. SO THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT. I ACTUALLY SHRUNK THAT BY 10 GRAND. UM, WE'RE DOING ALL RIGHT. OUR COMPUTERS ARE DOING GOOD AND I BOUGHT THE SCANNER SO I DON'T HAVE THAT LARGE, UH, BILL. SO I JUST LESSENED IT BY 10. OKAY. UM, GIS LICENSING, UM, THAT ONE, UM, WENT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HAVE TO, UM, UPGRADE THE COMPUTER AT, AT CERTAIN POINTS. UM, THE GRAPHICS AND THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO RUN AN ESRI SOFTWARE, IT HAS TO BE, YOU CAN'T USE AN OLD COMPUTER, SO IT'S TIME TO UPGRADE. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S THERE. SO THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 1300. UM, OIL AND GAS. SO THAT ONE I WENT UP, UM, BY 4,000 BECAUSE I HAD ONE VEHICLE WHERE I HAD A STAFF OUT FOR FMLA FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO THAT VEHICLE WAS NOT IN OPERATION. I HAVE A VEHICLE THAT'S AT FACILITIES RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE BORROWING, WHICH I HAVE TO GET BACK. SO I HAVEN'T PAID THE FUEL BOWL FOR THAT, BUT I NEED IT BACK. AND THEN I HAVE A STORMWATER POSITION THAT WILL BE OUT IN THE COUNTY NOW. SO OUR, OUR FUEL WAS GONNA TAKE US TO THIS YEAR AND WE WOULD'VE HAD ABOUT 3000 LEFT, BUT I'M ALSO PUTTING TWO MORE CARS BACK IN FULL SWING. ARE YOU GONNA NEED EXTRA VEHICLES? UM, NO. NO. UM, WE HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES, BUT MY LEASES ARE EXPIRING AND WE GET I WILL GET TO THAT. I, I GOT THE QUOTE ON THAT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY THAT WAS INCREASED. UM, THE MISCELLANEOUS FUND, UM, I WAS INFORMED WE'RE JUST KIND OF DOING AWAY WITH THAT, WHICH I'M FINE WITH 'CAUSE IT JUST MAKES IT CLEARER FOR ME. SO I HAD INCREASED IT TO 2,700. UM, I AM, UM, FULL FORCE OUT IN THE COUNTY AND I [00:55:01] NEED SOME SUPPLIES. UM, LIKE I HAVE ALL RSVPS FOR MONDAYS, UH, TRI-COUNTY, ALL THE COUNTIES, THEY'RE COMING TO LUNCH. WELL, THOSE THINGS COST MONEY. I'M DOING STORMWATER, VINYL BANNERS THAT'LL BE POSTED, UH, POSTED IN EACH PRECINCT. I HAVE TO PURCHASE ALL THOSE. YEP. SO IN ORDER TO PUSH THE, UM, PUBLIC OUTREACH PROGRAM, I NEED SOME FUNDS TO, TO GET OUT THERE. OKAY. NOW IF YOU FEED THEM, THEY WILL COME. YES. I FOUND THAT OUT. SO, OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS IN. SO THE MISCELLANEOUS WENT AWAY. THIS 2,700 WENT INTO THE EXISTING PUBLIC OUTREACH LINE ITEM. AND IT'S NOT ON HERE WHERE THAT WENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PUT THAT IN AFTER I TALKED TO CRYSTAL, SO, OKAY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. OKAY. SO FOR PARTS AND REPAIRS, WITH ALL THIS DARN CONSTRUCTION, I'VE HAD TO BUY TWO WINDSHIELDS, A BUNCH OF TIRES. LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS, BUT THEY JUST JUMP UP ONTO THE TRUCK WINDSHIELDS. SO I HAD TO INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE I CAN AFFORD A WINDSHIELD. SURE. UM, THAT WAS 1500. UM, OKAY, SO TLO, SO THE TRANSFUSION, UH, UNION THING THAT OUR DRS USE AND OUR ENVIRONMENTALS USE TO LOCATE, UM, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T FILE ON PEOPLE WITHOUT KNOWING THAT'S THEM. UM, IT WAS IN PRECINCT THREE, UM, BUT, UM, PRECINCT THREE IS NOT RUNNING IN ENVIRONMENTAL ANYMORE. SO THE TLO CONTRACT IS COMING TO MY OFFICE AND WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THAT. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. UM, OKAY. SO NOW WE GO TO INCREASES. SO THIS GOES ALONG WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, BEING DISSOLVED IN PRECINCT THREE. SO DENNIS'S CASES AND HIS WORKLOAD CAME TO MY THREE. I DIDN'T WANNA HIRE ANOTHER ONE. I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR ANOTHER ONE. AND IT'S TOO COSTLY. SO I WAS ASKING TO ADD 3000 TO EACH ONE OF THEIR, MY ENVIRONMENTALS INSTEAD OF REP GETTING A NEW MEMBER. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT IS, I, I ALSO INCLUDED IN THERE, BRANDY DID THE ENTIRE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR ALL FOUR OF THEM. IT'S $15,000, THE INCREASE, IT'S NOT A BIG INCREASE. JUST ENOUGH TO, AND THAT'S ALL IN INCLUDING, THAT'S ALL IN, THAT'S MEDICAL AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. MM-HMM . AND I, AND SHE PROVIDED THAT GREAT. PROVIDED THAT SHEET FOR ME. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO NOW WE'RE AT THE, UH, VEHICLES. SO I HAVE THREE LEASE TRUCKS THAT IN THE COURSE OF THIS BUDGET YEAR WILL BE NOT LEASED ANYMORE. SO THE COST OF THAT IS $134,777 FOR THOSE THREE TRUCKS. I AM NOT, I DON'T NEED SPECIALTY ITEMS ON THE TRUCKS. I DON'T OUTFIT THE TRUCKS. I JUST NEED TRUCKS. SO IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. UM, FACILITIES WILL PUT THE STICKERS ON 'EM. THAT LETS YOU KNOW WHO'S IN THAT TRUCK. YEAH. WHEN YOU SHOW UP AT SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. AND THE ONLY THING I'M GONNA BE REALLY SPECIFIC ON IS RUBBER MATS. 'CAUSE THERE'S NO BUSINESS CARPET, NO. IN A TRUCK FOR MY SEPTIC PEOPLE AND, UM, BLUETOOTH CAPABILITY FOR THEIR LAPTOPS. THEY, THEY DO ALL THAT. THAT'S IT. SO THOSE THREE ONE IS EXPIRING IN SEPTEMBER AND TWO IN MARCH. AND THAT IS THE QUOTE AND THE COST, I'M WILLING TO TAKE 'EM OFF A LOT. IF YOU CAN FIND 'EM ON A LOT, LET LORENA KNOW. I DID. SHE GAVE ME YES. AND SHE SAID ONCE YOU GUYS, I TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT AND I LET YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE YOU AWARE THEN WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS. OKAY. IF IT'S APPROVED, BECAUSE IT'LL TAKE A WHILE. THAT'S EXPIRING IN SEPTEMBER, WE GOTTA TURN IT BACK IN. IS THAT CORRECT? NOW THEY DO HAVE TO GIVE THEM NOTICE, LIKE THEY LIKE, LIKE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO, SO THE ONE IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE ELLE'S ALREADY NOTIFIED THEM, LET THEM KNOW. YEAH. AND, AND, UM, SO WELL THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO YEAH. AND THAT'S THE, THE HARD PART IS SHE SAID THAT WE COULD EXTEND IT JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I WON'T HAVE MY NEW BUDGET YET AND I DON'T HAVE CAR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WON'T, I WOULDN'T, I DIDN'T. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THIS BUDGET, NOT NEXT BUDGET. OKAY. BUT WE CAN DIS EXTEND IT, BUT NOT VERY LONG. SHE SAID WELL JUST GET A MONTH OUT OF IT. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. AS LONG AS WE CAN JUST GO GET ONE OFF OF A A LOT. THEY'RE EASY. YEAH, FINE. F1 FIFTIES EVERYWHERE. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE VEHICLE INFORMATION. IF YOU SEE, DID YOU THEN SHE HAS ONE, TWO IN MARCH YOU SAID? YEP. TWO IN MARCH. YES. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET OUT OF THAT ENTERPRISE STUFF. IT'S KIND OF SCARY BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE'RE AT THE MERCY FOR SOME THINGS AND, AND I KIND OF LIKE, I HAVE TWO VEHICLES. I OWN AN ESCAPE AND AN EXPLORER THAT ACTUALLY BELONG TO THE DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARE NOT LEASED VEHICLES. AND I KIND OF CAN KEEP TRACK BETTER OF THE OIL CHANGES AND STUFF WHEN IT'S WELL YEAH. LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO STAY IN THAT LEASE EVERYONE TO GET OUT OF IT. YEAH. BUT YEAH, WE CAN KEEP OUR TRUCKS GOING FOR A LOT LONGER THAN THEY CAN. OH YEAH. THEY'RE IN HOT PURSUIT OUT THERE. RIGHT. SHERIFF. SO, AND YOU'LL SEE THE, I ATTACHED YOUR, THE COST SHEET THAT BRANDY MADE FOR ME. SO IF YOU NEEDED TO LOOK AT THAT MORE IN DEPTH ON WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTALS, WE GOT IT. AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. IT'S AWFUL EASY. I KNOW, [01:00:01] RIGHT? SO OTHER THAN THE TRUCKS, THE TOTAL DIFFERENCE, 'CAUSE I DID THE MATH. TOTAL INCREASE TO MY BUDGET IS $17,039. OKAY. WITHOUT THE TRUCKS. I'M NOT COUNTING THE TRUCKS. SOUNDS BETTER, RIGHT? IT SOUNDS BETTER. IT DOES. I DIDN'T BUY CARS. I GOT CARS. YOU GUYS CAN BUY CARS. NO, I'M JUST TEA . SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM. THANK YOU. MONIQUE. LOOKS GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I, YEAH, WE'RE GOING, LET'S TAKE A BREAK. MAYBE NEEDS TO GO THE BREAK. TALKING ABOUT OUR PIT ADOPTION CENTER. Y'ALL DIDN'T CATCH WHEN I SAID IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS OUT THERE. . I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. IT IS RAINING CATS AND DOGS OUT THERE. YES, IT HAS BEEN. IT IS BAD. ALRIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. OKAY. Y'ALL HAVE YOUR, HER SHEETS THERE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO WE ARE COMING TO YOU TO JUST KIND OF GO OVER OUR BUDGET. THE, UM, ONE THING WE WANNA SAY IS THE INCREASE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS ONLY $600. UM, SO THAT INCREASE WOULD BE IN THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION. UM, AND THEN ALSO IN THE, UM, THE UNIFORMS, UM, THAT WE'VE LEARNED THAT THEY GET DIRTY REALLY FAST AND, AND THEY WEAR UP PRETTY FAST. SO OTHER THAN THAT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, UM, IT DOES NEED TO BE DIVIDED OUT A LITTLE BIT. BRANDI MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN, HELP US A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BREAK IT DOWN, UM, A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT SO FAR, UM, OTHER THAN THE SALARY WE'VE SPENT, UM, 35,311. IS THAT RIGHT, BRANDY? DO YOU HAVE THAT? NO, UM, NO. ABOUT 30, SAY ABOUT 35,000 OUT OF OUR BUDGET BEING 122, UM, THOUSAND. SO SHERRY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AT WATCHING THAT AND KEEPING THE EXPENSES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE SHELTER RIGHT NOW. UM, AS SHERRY'S GOTTEN THERE. AND I'LL LET SHERRY TALK MORE ABOUT THE NEED ON THE PLAY YARD, UM, OUT BACK. MM-HMM . SO WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED TO, UM, PUT, PROVIDE SOME SHADE BACK THERE. WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE HEART PART OF THE YEAR, AND THERE, THERE'S NO SHADE. AND, AND BY, YOU KNOW, BY 9 30, 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, IT'S JUST ALREADY, IT'S, IT'S TOO HARD FOR THE DOGS TO BE OUT. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LET THE DOGS OUT EVERY DAY. THERE WAS SHADE STRUCTURES, THEY, UM, THEY WERE JUST A CLOTH TYPE MATERIAL AND THEY'VE WORN OUT. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, UH, SHADE STRUCTURE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT WE NEED SOON RIGHT NOW, SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN OUR BUDGET AND HOW, UM, RESOURCEFUL SHE'S BEEN, BUT ALSO THE ITEMS THAT WE NEED, IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE NOW, THAT WILL LEAD JUST A FEW ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE NEEDING FOR THE BUDGET OF 2026. OKAY. SO HOW MUCH BETWEEN NOW AND THE UNUSED MONEY WILL THEY, YOU THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE IF THEY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND BUY, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF SHADE ARE YOU PUTTING UP BACK THERE? SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS. SO IT IS GOING TO BE A STRUCTURE, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT FACILITIES HAS PURCHASED BEHIND THE, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS. OKAY. AND THEY CAN DIVIDE THAT WHERE IT GOES. IT'S A METAL STRUCTURE, VERY INEXPENSIVE. IT CAN GO OVER, UH, THE KENNELS, BUT THERE'S ONLY THREE KENNELS IN THE BACK. AND, AND THAT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ONE DOG OUT THERE YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE. SO IF WE COULD DIVIDE THAT INTO NINE KENNELS, SO RUNNING SOME, SOME WIRE, YOU KNOW, CROSSWAYS, WE DIVIDE THAT OUT AND THEN THE SHADE WOULD GO OVER THAT. THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR HER STAFF TO BE ABLE TO, DID YOU HAVE HIM DO SOME DRAWINGS TO BRING TO US? I CAN DO THAT. MM-HMM . DO THAT, PLEASE. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. UM, AND THEN IS THIS THE, LIKE THE LITTLE CARPORT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT HE HAS? IT IS, YES. I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF THAT ACTUALLY. YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY SAID THEY COME IN DIFFERENT SIZES SO THEY COULD DIVIDE IT OUT. OKAY. YEAH. UM, AND SO, SO THAT WOULD BE FOR NOW IN 2026, WE WOULD NEED TO DO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT'S NEXT TO UH, 1 75. BUT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET WITH THE CITY ON THAT BECAUSE UM, THERE MAY BE ATI STIPULATIONS FOR WHAT TYPE OF FENCING GO ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE CAN CHECK WHAT THE MERCEDES. YES. I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE'LL BE OKAY, BUT NEED TO CHECK. OKAY. UM, INSIDE THE BUILDING. UM, SO ADDING THE KENNELS THAT ARE FOR INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN THE OKAY THAT IT IS OKAY TO GO AHEAD AND PUT SOME ITEMS ON THE FLOORING MM-HMM . OR TO DO THE KENNELS THEMSELF. SO WE'VE SOLD, UM, SEVEN OF THE CAT [01:05:01] KENNELS BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE THE CAT. SO WE'VE MADE, MADE SOME MONEY OFF OF THAT. AND THEN PUTTING BACK IN AND PUTTING THE ACTUAL KENNELS LIKE YOU SEE IN THE BACK WHERE THE DOGS, IT'S KIND OF A KENNEL RUN INSTEAD OF THE CAGES THAT WOULD RUN ABOUT $30,000 TO PUT IN THAT UNUSED SPACE. SO ONCE WE GET RID OF ALL THE CA CAGES WE'RE GOING TO SELL HOW MANY DOLLARS THAT YOU ESTIMATE THAT SHOULD BRING IN. UM, LET'S SEE. SO, SO FAR OFF OF THE SIX WE'VE MADE, OFF THE SEVEN, WE'VE MADE 21,000, WE HAVE 10 MORE TO SELL AND THEY'RE 3000 A PIECE. SO WE GOT ANOTHER 30. SO WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MONEY TO OFFSET. YES SIR. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO, SO, AND, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT DONE SOON. I THINK YOU SHOULD DO THAT. YES. BECAUSE WE CAN HELP THE SHERIFF OUT BY TAKING IN MORE DOGS. THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS. AND IF AT THE POINT THAT WE GET TO WHERE THEY COME OUT AND MEASURE AND LOOK AT IT AND THEY SAY, THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK. IF WE HAVE TO GO TO THE ROLLING KENNELS, THOSE ARE $7,000 A PIECE FOR THE DOG KENNELS. WE JUST GOTTA DO THE BEST WE CAN. MM-HMM . SO WE JUST NEED TO GET IT TO ALLEVIATE PRESSURE OF WHICH IS, WHICH IS GONNA BE BEST WITH THE FLOORING AND THE DRAINAGE. 'CAUSE REMEMBER THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REDO SOME OF, OF THAT DRAINAGE. SO THERE'S GONNA BE MONEY ADDED ON TOP OF THAT. BUT WHAT WE TOLD THAT, BUT, BUT DRAINAGE IS THERE IS OKAY. THE KENNEL, IT'S ONLY ONE DRAIN SITTING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM. CORRECT. IF YOU DO THE KENNEL WHERE THERE IN EACH KENNEL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A DRAIN IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING IN EACH OF THOSE. BUT THEN THE FLOOR SLOPE TO THE DRAIN PROBABLY DOES. I'M SURE IT DOES. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GET SOMEONE TO LOOK AT IT AND UM, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THINK WE'LL BE OKAY WITH THE DRAIN THAT'S THERE AND YOU GOT A SQUEEGEE WHAT YOU AND IT'S GONNA FLOW DOWN TO THAT DRAIN ANYWAY. THAT'S THE REASON IT'S THERE. SO OKAY. I THINK WE'LL BE OKAY. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. BUT I CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THE, UH, KENNELS ORDERED, THE DOG, WHATEVER WE CAN WHAT YOU DETERMINE WHICH ONE GET THEM ORDERED. I DON'T HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET 'EM HERE. MM-HMM . BUT THAT'S GONNA ALLEVIATE SOME PRESSURE FROM THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT C CAGES WE HAVEN'T SOLD, CAN WE PUT THEM OUT THERE SOMEWHERE OUT OF THE WAY AND CLEAR THOSE ROOMS SO WHEN THE DOG CAGES DO COME, THEY CAN GO RIGHT IN. THEY ARE ALREADY AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS IN STORAGE. MM-HMM . OKAY. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THE DIFFERENT GROUPS, ATHENS AND CITY OF LANCASTER CAME AND PICKED THEIR UP. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM TERRELL ON THEIRS. OKAY. SO ON THE REQUEST, VILLE DOES WANT SOME, I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF IN A, A WEIRD SPOT RIGHT NOW, BUT UM, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN BUYING SOME, THEY'RE BUILDING NEW, THEY'LL TAKE 10 OF THEM. WHO KNOWS. GET RID OF 'EM. YEAH. YEAH. 'CAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR NEW MM-HMM . UH, SHELTER. OKAY. SO, AND THEY HAVE STORAGE SPACE OVER THERE SO WE CAN GET 'EM GONE. YEAH. SO THAT'D BE GOOD. OKAY. UM, THE TENT, UH, FOR 1 75, YOU WANNA EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? THIS IS NOW THAT WE NEED, YES. SO, UM, REALLY NEED TO GET, UM, WINDOW TENT PUT ON THE WINDOWS THAT ARE ON THE 1 75 SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UM, THAT WILL HELP, UH, WITH OUR AC THAT'LL HELP KEEP IT COOLER IN THERE. IT ALSO IS REALLY HARD TO SEE THE ANIMALS IN THE DAYTIME. YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE DOGS VERY WELL IN THE KENNELS. SO IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF A SHIELD OR A TENT BACK THERE TENT, WE COULD KIND OF SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ANIMALS. THAT'S THE MAIN HALL WHERE THE, THE SUN'S COMING IN HERE AND THE KENNELS ARE OVER HERE AND IT HEATS IT UP FOR THE, FOR THEM TOO. SO YEAH, THEY HAVE CASEY CHECK THE TENT AND THEN THOSE SCREENS THAT YOU CAN JUST SCREW ON THERE THAT DEFLECT THE HEAT AND THEN IT CUTS THE SUN ALSO. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S JUST A FEW, UM, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITH THE QUARANTINE KENNELS. THE TOPS NEED TO BE FIXED. OKAY. OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . FACILITIES? YES. OKAY. WE'RE JUST, WE HAVE THOSE, WE WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR TO GET THAT, GET THAT DONE IN THE LIST. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN, SO THEN FOR 2026 OUR REQUESTS ARE, LIKE I SAID, THE 1 75, THE MEET AND GREET ROOM ON ONE OR AREA ON 1 75, THE PLAY YARD. SEEING WHAT THE CITY WOULD ALLOW US TO DO TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE OR ADD MORE TO THAT. AND THEN INSIDE WHAT WE CALL THE DOGGIE MOBILE, UM, ADDING SOME STATIONARY KENNEL SO THAT WHEN THE, THE ANIMALS COME IN, YOU JUST PUT 'EM IN THEIR KENNEL AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN GET 'EM OUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE, THE LOCATION. YEAH. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE TAKING THE KENNELS IN AND PUTTING 'EM IN. YEAH. AND THEN YOU'RE HAVING TO TAKE THEM OUT WHEN YOU'RE AT THE LOCATION AND THERE'S NO WAY TO EVEN GOT, WE DON'T HAVE NO WAY TO SECURE THE KENNELS IN THERE. SO, UM, IF WE HAD A WRECK OR SOMETHING, THEY WOULD BE ROLLING AROUNDS. WE CAN'T STRAP 'EM DOWN. THERE REALLY ISN'T A, THERE'S NO A LOCATION. MAYBE WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IF WE HAD TO INTO THE SIDE IT MAKE SOME D RING, SOMETHING YOU COULD PUT IN THERE AND STRAP 'EM DOWN. MM-HMM. OKAY. SO, OKAY. SO, SO THAT IS THE MAIN THING. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN, UM, AND I KNOW THIS MAY NOT BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT SALARIES. NO. OKAY. WELL WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT THEN WE'LL TALK THERE. FEW MORE MEETINGS TO GO. OKAY. IT'S NOT GONNA ADJUST ANYTHING, IT'S JUST WE'RE NEW AND UNDERSTANDING WHO WE NEEDED IN CHARGE, LEAD TECH, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SURE. SO THAT'S ALL IT IS. OKAY. [01:10:01] OKAY. ALRIGHT. SHERIFF, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? THINGS RUNNING. OKAY. I KNOW WE NEED MORE ROOM, MORE KENNELS. I JUST NEED MORE ROOM. OKAY. WE'RE STILL BACKLOGGED PROBABLY ABOUT 50, 60 FOR SURE. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND I, I, THEY KIND OF BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT IT A WHILE AGO, UM, EARLIER, BUT WE DID WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER TO SEPARATE ALL OF THE LINE ITEMS OUT FROM OPERATING EXPENDITURES INTO MORE APPROPRIATE LINE ITEMS. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND SO WE'LL JUST CONTINUE ON FORWARD WITH THAT. HOW ARE WE DOING ON DONATIONS? BRINGS UP TO DATE ON DONATIONS. SO, SO FAR TO DATE, $17,657. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, AND THEN ADOPTIONS, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING WELL, BUT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING, YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE CUT THAT COST OF ADOPTIONS AND GET THOSE ANIMALS OUT. SO THROUGH THE SUMMER MAYBE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO START CUT. CUTTING, CUTTING THE COST. YOU TAKE A LOSS, BUT WELL, OKAY, IF WE PUT THE ADOPTIONS OF WHAT IT EXACTLY COST US, HOW MUCH OF LESS IS THAT FROM WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN A NORMAL ADOPTION FOR THE SPAY AND NEUTER AND THE SHOTS, WHAT'S THE, THAT'S, THAT'S RUNNING REALLY CLOSE TO THE ONE 50 THAT WE CHARGE FOR ADOPTION. IT'S, IT'S RIGHT AROUND ONE 40. SO WE'RE NOT, WOULDN'T BE SAVING THAT MUCH MONEY. NO. 'CAUSE WE'RE MICROCHIP AND THE SPAN NS RUN, UM, DEPENDS ON THE WEIGHT OF THE DOG. 80 TO 120. AND THEN YOU ADD YOUR VACCINATIONS THAT WE DO IN MICROCHIPS THEN . SO WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I I, IN ORDER TO GET RID OF SOME ANIMALS, IF, WHAT DOLLAR FIGURE WOULD Y'ALL BE COMFORTABLE LOSING? $50 ON EACH ANIMAL TO GET, I MEAN, SO MUCH CLEARED OUT. HERE'S OUR DEAL IS WHENEVER THE WHOLE PRO, WE GOT THE PRO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE PROGRAM A COUPLE YEARS AGO. RIGHT. AND THEN WE BROUGHT IT BACK AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THAT. BUT THERE'S NO PROFIT IN THIS. SO, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK EVEN. WE NEVER WILL. WE'RE JUST SITTING THERE HANGING ON THE DOG. SO I THINK WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MOVE HIM TO SO THAT THE SHERIFF CAN DO HIS JOB AND THAT WE CAN CUT COSTS FROM GOING OUTSIDE, WE'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN IN A DIFFERENT AREA. SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REASONABLE. I MEAN, SOMEBODY WILL PAY $50, BUT I DON'T KNOW, TOO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO PAY ONE 50. RIGHT. AT LEAST THEY'RE GOING OUT SPAY AND NEUTERED AND MICROCHIP. SO IF THEY COME BACK, THEY CAN'T BE OUT THERE CAUSING ISSUES. . YEAH. CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE? HEY, WE'VE GOT A SUMMER SPECIAL. ABSOLUTELY. WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK PRICE WISE FOR THE SUMMER, WHAT YOU WANNA DO? 50, $50. THAT'S A THINK THAT WILL HELP CLEAR 'EM OUT. IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE AND I THINK THAT'S A A VERY GOOD, AT LEAST SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING INVESTED IN THAT ANIMAL WHEN THEY'RE GETTING IT. OKAY. IT'S NOT JUST FREE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS TO HER IS WHY WOULD I GO OVER AND PAY THAT MUCH MONEY TO DOM HELPING YOU, BUT YOU'RE CHARGING ME TO HELP YOU. SO IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST ITSELF. BUT BUT THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR THOSE VACCINATIONS ANYWAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I MEAN 150 VERSUS 50, THAT'S, TO ME THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND I IT'S 150 VERSUS THE OTHER WAS 3 25. YEAH. SOMETIMES THEY WERE UP THERE REAL HIGH. YEAH. SO I NEED, LET'S DO A MOTION ON THEN. I NEED SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION. NO MOTION. MR. PROB MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND MR. PLAN. MAKE A SECOND. ALL PHARISEE AYE. AYE. SHE CARRIES. SO LET'S DO THAT FOR THE REST OF THE SUMMER. YES. AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR US. THANK YOU. LIKE I SAY, WE'RE SPENDING IT OVER THERE SOMEWHERE ELSE, SO MM-HMM . WE NEED TO GET 'EM MOVED. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. I DO WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING. UM, WITH THE LINE ITEMS, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE SPECIAL DONATIONS IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, THAT IS A ROLLING LINE ITEM THAT WE ESTABLISHED, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DONATIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY COMING IN TO THE SHELTER, THEY STAY THERE. THEY STAY THERE. YES. THEY DON'T GO BACK TO GENERAL FUND. THEY STAY WITHIN THE SHELTER TO BE USED. PENNY FOR PENNY. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. THAT IT, THAT'S IT. TOO EASY. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. I STILL THINK IT'S CHEAP. IT'S, YOU'LL GET A HOLD OF NATHAN, SEE IF HE CAN COME. WHAT ABOUT, UH, CHUCK? NO. NO. WE ALL KNOW THAT [01:16:43] A LITTLE WET. HOW Y'ALL DOING MR. NATHAN? OUR IT DIRECTOR IS IN THE HOUSE. LET ME FIND, WHERE'S THIS, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? Y'ALL BEEN BUSY LATELY? UM, I THINK I'VE TOLD THAT JOKE LIKE TWICE TO CRYSTAL NOW. SO Y'ALL DOING ANYTHING OVER THERE? YEAH, SHE OKAY. MR. NATHAN, YOUR TURN. ALRIGHT. UH, I'VE GOT, DO Y'ALL HAVE MY, UH, THE SHEET I GUESS FOR, FOR MY BUDGET SO WE CAN, I CAN KIND OF REFERENCE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. OKAY. UM, I DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH FROM LAST YEAR OTHER THAN MY INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET GOING A LITTLE BIT LOWER. UM, I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE OR WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE MOST OF THE STUFF THAT I NEEDED FOR THE BIG INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, UPGRADES OR WHATEVER I NEEDED TO DO. UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE COURTHOUSE AND STUFF, I'LL STILL NEED SOME MONEY. UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE COURTHOUSE BEING RENOVATED, I'LL STILL NEED SOME MONEY FOR THAT. UM, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S STILL AT THAT NUMBER. BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW SINCE THE SHERIFF'S HERE, I, I UPPED SOUTHERN SOFTWARE A LITTLE BIT FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, HE'S ADDING I GUESS ANOTHER MODULE OR SOMETHING TO THE SOFTWARE AND UH, NET MOTION. I HAD TO BUMP THAT UP SOME BECAUSE ACTUALLY BRUCE RIGHT NOW IS GETTING IT IMPLEMENTED. SO, UH, THE COUNTY WILL HAVE AN A, A NET MOTION AND UM, OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE THE NEW CLOUD VERSION OF NET MOTION. SO OTHER THAN THAT, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS THAT Y'ALL HAD QUESTIONS ON? I'D BE HAPPY TO GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU WOULD WANT. OKAY. WE SHOULD HAVE THE NEW HOPEFULLY SUBSTATION TYPE OPERATION IN FORNEY UP BY THE, BEFORE THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR IF YOU GOT MONEY IN THERE. COMPUTERS AND STUFF OVER THERE. THE SUBSTATION, UM, I DID NOT BUDGET FOR THE 40 SUBSTATION, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY MY EQUIPMENT IN THERE. IT'S NOT MY MY SUBSTATION? NO, IT'S GONNA BE THEY'RE BUILDING A DIFFERENT BUILDING. IT'S DIFFERENT BUILDING. OH, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER 40 SUB YES. WILL BE FOR PRECINCT TWO. IT'S ON LAKE, LAKE RAY HUB DRIVE. THE CONSTABLES WILL BE OUT THERE, CARE FLAT WILL BE OUT THERE. YOU NEED TO VISIT WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO SEE WHO'S GONNA BE THERE AND PLAN FOR THAT. HMM. BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG TO BUILD IT AND BE OPERATIONAL. HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR. YEAH. IT DEPENDS HOW BIG. AND I KNOW PRECINCT TWO HAS A LOT OF CONSTABLE DEPUTIES. YES. I DON'T KNOW. SO IF YOU WANTED SOME, SOME KIND OF SETUP FOR EACH ONE, CHECK LORENA AND CHECK S***T ON THAT. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN THE BUDGET TOO. YEAH. THEN I'LL, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THAT. SO THAT'S USUALLY WHAT I [01:20:01] USE IF I HAVE TO DO A BIG PURCHASE OF NEW DESKTOPS, FIREWALLS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. OKAY. AND I DON'T EVEN WANT TO DO A BALLPARK NUMBER BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW HOW BIG IT'S GONNA BE THAT THAT DEPARTMENT'S PRETTY BIG. AND THEN CAREF FLIGHT, IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, BUILDING, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STUFF. YES. THEY EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN CIRCUIT SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR THEM. YEAH. ESPECIALLY ON THE IT SIDE. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HAD TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THEM. OKAY. ANYBODY THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE MISSING FOR IT? OKAY. WE GOT PLENTY OF UH, ROOM FOR CAMERAS FOR THE OLD COURTHOUSE. ARE THEY IN THERE? I MIGHT BUMP THE LANDLINES. I'M SORRY. GOING BACK TO THE, UM, THE NEW SUBSTATION, MY LANDLINE ITEM MIGHT GO UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I, THAT'S WHERE I PAY MY INTERNET CIRCUITS ON. SO, AND UH, CELLULAR AND ALL THAT STUFF. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT GOES THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS LANDLINES WHO WILL CONTROL THE CAMERAS OVER HERE? USUALLY WE PUT IT IN THE BUD, NOT IN MINE, BUT WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET. SO WHEREVER IT'S EITHER GONNA BE IN THE, DID WE PUT THAT IN THE, UH, COST RENOVATING IT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID OR DIDN'T, IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BID. BUT THE MONITORING AND EVERYTHING, WHO WILL CONTROL THAT? BE YOU OR, YEAH, IT'S ALMOST, I I WE DON'T DO THE MONITORING AND I DON'T WANT US TO PULL VIDEO. THAT WOULD BE . SO IT'S ALWAYS US. OKAY. USUALLY WE PUT IT IN THE CONSTRUCTION. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S INCLUDED. WE DON'T MISS THAT OUT. ONLY, ONLY THING I WOULD BE INCLUDED ON IS HOW THE NETWORK PART. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONLY GONNA BE THE PART. SO I WANNA SAY THAT WHEN WE FIRST HAVE STARTED HAVING TALKS OF COURTHOUSE RENOVATION, THAT WAS DEFINITELY BROUGHT, 'CAUSE BRUCE WAS WITH ME. WE WERE BOTH HERE. OKAY. WE DEFINITELY MENTIONED THAT THERE HAS TO BE, UH, NEW CAMERAS IN THERE. JUST DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH LORENA AND YEAH. YEAH, GO THAT ROUTE. WHATEVER WE, IF WE NEED YOU BRUCE, Y'ALL WORK THAT OUT. Y'ALL REALLY WORKING STUFF OUT, SO. YEP. WHATEVER IT IS, JUST MAKE SURE IT'S CAPTURED AND THEN IF IT AIN'T, THEN WE CAN PUT IT WHEREVER WE NEED TO. OKAY. GET IT. GOOD DEAL. ANYTHING ELSE? BRANDY, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. UM, IF, IF Y'ALL ARE GOOD ON THE BUDGET, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT JUST A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE CALL WE HAD THIS MORNING. NOT INTO DETAILS, BUT JUST AN ACTION I'D LIKE TO TAKE FROM, UH, OUR RECENT EVENT, UM, WITH A COMPROMISE EMAIL OR WHATEVER. UM, I JUST WANT TO UPDATE OUR SECURITY PRACTICES FOR EMAILS, UM, AND OUR IMPLEMENTATION. SO MAYBE BY A POLICY, I WISH THE CIVIL WAS HERE, BUT MAYBE WE COULD PUSH A POLICY THAT REQUIRES, UM, MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION. UM, FOR OUR EMAIL ACCOUNTS, WE WOULD ALMOST REDUCE THE RISK OF A COMPROMISE EMAIL TO ZERO WHEN YOU HAVE, I THINK THAT'S DRIVE. I THINK WE NEED TO DO DRIVE. MM-HMM . I, UM, AFTER OUR CONVERSATION THIS MORNING, WE, WE HAVE TO DO THAT. AND THE WAY I WOULD GO ABOUT IT, UM, WOULD BE, UH, A DEPARTMENT AT A TIME JUST TO ROLL IT OUT, MAKE SURE WE GET IT. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PLACES IN THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE CELL PHONES THEY, THEY CAN BRING IN. SO THOSE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO. UH, ME AND BRUCE, BUT PUSHING MULTIFACTOR TO EVERYONE WOULD BE IDEAL. IT'S, IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED ON ALL THE IT STAFF AND THEN CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTS. WE'VE SET THAT UP BUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD A POLICY IN PLACE AND ENFORCED IT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT PLAN ON THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GETS PASSED OFFICIALLY, BUT, UM, WELL YOU GET IT DRAFTED OF DRAWING UP THE CIVIL, THEN BRING IT IN HERE AND WE'LL PASS IT. AND I THINK I, I CHARGED TO DO THAT WITH YOU TOO AND THEN WORK. SO THAT WORK, THAT'S SOME WORK. SO I'LL PROBABLY GO STRAIGHT LIKE BRAD OR KAREN, PROBABLY BRAD DO IT. YEAH, BRAD WILL PROBABLY DO IT, BUT OKAY. OR HOLLER ME AS WE KIND GET, WE WILL GET BRAD OR SOMETHING TO DO THAT. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THAT IT, THAT'S IT. IT'S TOO EASY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU NATE. THANK Y'ALL. YOU BET. THANK YOU. SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST TODAY. MY LAST ONE TODAY. WOW. WELL THIS'LL BE REALLY QUICK. [01:25:01] WE DON'T MIND. AND I AM ONE OF THOSE CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT'S ON THE MULTIFACTOR , I'VE BEEN HONEST QUITE A WHILE NOW. SO IT'S A GOOD THING. CHUCK MON OR TREASURE? GO AHEAD CHUCK. OKAY. NOT REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING AS FAR AS ANY OF THE LINE ITEMS EXCEPT, UH, WE ARE MOVING THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT WAS IN MY MISCELLANEOUS BUDGET, OVER TO OFFICE SUPPLIES, WHICH IS PROBABLY GONNA GET USED UP THERE BECAUSE, WELL, FOR INSTANCE, I WAS, UH, INFORMED WHEN I NEEDED MORE PRINTED ENVELOPES AFTER A LITTLE WHILE THAT, UH, TYPOGRAPHICS WAS GONNA CHARGE ME 1500 FOR 8,000 OF THEM. AND TERRA ISDS PRINT SHOP WAS A THOUSAND. SO THAT WAS A, UH, PRETTY GOOD JUMP. YES. EITHER ONE OF 'EM WAS A GOOD JUMP. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA PRETTY MUCH STAY THE SAME. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I'M ASKING FOR, UM, THE PART-TIMER I GOT LAST YEAR, I'M GONNA LEAVE HER PART-TIME, UH, INSTEAD OF GOING FULL-TIME AND I'VE GOT SOMEBODY ELSE THAT I HAVE HAD AND I BASICALLY HAVE BEEN PAYING HER OUT OF MY, UM, YEAH, WHICH BUDGET WAS THAT? I THINK IT WAS THE, UH, COMPUTER, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT AND, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES, WHICH WASN'T A GOOD CHOICE WHEN I FOUND OUT HOW MUCH THE ENVELOPES WERE. BUT, UM, UH, I'VE GOT HER PART-TIME AND SHE, UH, WORKS FOR A, UH, A CPA FIRM OVER IN DALLAS AND I, I USED HER TEMPORARY HELP A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO HELP US GET CAUGHT UP AND I USED HER AGAIN THIS YEAR AND SHE IS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB OF KEEPING US UP TO DATE ON THE, UH, DAILY RECONCILIATIONS ON THE GENERAL FUND FUND. 9, 9, 9 AND DOING THE RECONCILIATIONS FOR IT. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST KEEP HER ON, ON THAT PART-TIME BASIS. IF WE COULD JUST FUND A PART-TIME POSITION BASICALLY LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR AND ALLOW THAT TO KEEP GOING. YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT LINE ITEM, DOESN'T YOU? BRANDY PART-TIME. UM, I HAVE NOT INCREASED IT, NO. OKAY. BUT IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PAYROLL REQUEST. OKAY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE LATER. OKAY. THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE ONE CHANGE. OKAY. WELL QUICK AND EASY. OKAY. AGAIN, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. I [2. Adjourn Meeting.] NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I SL MADE A MOTION QUESTION OVER THE END DOWN THERE. . OH MAN. SECOND MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.