Jul 01, 2025 Commissioners Court

[Call to Order ]

GOOD MORNING.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.

HERE IT IS, JULY THE FIRST, AND WE'RE HERE AT THE ANNEX.

AS USUAL, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGES LED BY COMMISSIONER MOORE.

SO IF YOU'D JOIN ME AND STAND PLEASE.

FATHER, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS DAY, FOR THE ABILITY WE HAVE TO SERVE OUR COUNTY AND THE MEANS THAT WE DO.

BUT TODAY, WE'RE SADDENED AND LOST FOR ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, WHO PASSED AWAY DURING THE NIGHT.

AND WE PRAY FOR HIS FAMILY AND FOR ALL THOSE, UH, WHO ARE CLOSE FRIENDS, THEN WE CAN COMFORT THEM AND HELP THEM IN WHATEVER WAY THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THE LIFE YOU'VE BLESSED US WITH.

MAY WE NEVER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED AND ALWAYS SERVE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON WHO DIED FOR US, FOR IN HIS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

AMEN.

OUR PGI TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR.

UNDER, UNDER TAKES FLAG, OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LEAGUE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THIS MORNING? UH, BE SURE AND LOOK AT THE PACKET FOR THE BUDGET MEETINGS.

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE ]

WE'RE GOING HAVE STARTING MONDAY.

I'M SURE EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED IT, BUT PLEASE, SURE.

AND LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE GET HERE ON MONDAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

ALSO, UH, LEGISLATURE DID PASS HOUSE BILL 1109, WHICH WILL SAVE THE COUNTY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN FUEL TAX.

SO WE'VE BEEN EXEMPTED ALONG WITH A LOT OF SCHOOLS AND THINGS.

COUNTY'S ALWAYS BEEN LEFT OUT, BUT NOW WE FINALLY GOT INCLUDED IN THAT, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BOOST TO US.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA ]

AGENDA.

Y'ALL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.

IT'S JUST TO ACCEPT THE COMMISSION COURT MEETING FOR JUNE THE 24TH, 25.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU.

COMM.

MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

IS, UH, THE, UH, PLAN, UH, UH, DATE WHEN THE REGULAR MEETING THAT THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS WOULD CONSIDER, UH, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EVERYTHING UNDER STATE LAW COUNTIES IN ORDER TO AUTHORIZE, UH, DEBT ISSUANCE.

MOTION CARRIE.

NUMBER

[3. George Williford with Hilltop Securities: Discuss/Present the bond sale plans for the Juvenile Detention Center. ]

THREE.

MR. GEORGE WITHERFORD WITH THE TOP SECURITY.

SHE'S GONNA DISCUSS PRESENT THE BOND SALE PLANS FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION SOON.

MORNING, GEORGE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.

MORNING JUDGE, MEMBERS OF THE COURT, UH, GOOD TO BE HERE.

AND FOR THE RECORD, GEORGE WILFORD WITH HILLTOP, UH, SECURITIES, UH, FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, WHAT WE'VE PASSED OUT AND, UH, WANTED TO DO ON BEHALF OF THE COURT IS REVIEW THE PLANS FOR SALE OF THE, UH, BONDS FOR THE DETENTION CENTER.

UH, AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE COURT'S IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, WHAT THE, UH, PLANNED PROCESS AND TIMING IS.

SO, UH, YOU'VE GOT THESE, UH, LITTLE INFORMATION PACKAGES I HANDED TO YOU.

THE FIRST THING, UH, BEHIND THE COVER IS, UH, THE, UH, CALENDAR OR TIMETABLE OF EVENTS.

AND, UH, UH, I JUST NOTICED THAT WE HADN'T CHANGED THE FIRST ITEM WE'D ANTICIPATED THAT WE MIGHT, UH, HAVE BEEN HERE LAST WEEK, KIND OF DOING THE REVIEW AND EVERYTHING MM-HMM .

AND, UH, UH, IN ORDER TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA PROPERLY, UH, DEFERRED FOR SO WEEKS.

SO THAT, THAT'S JULY ONE.

THAT FIRST ITEM IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

UH, AND IT'S NOT A REQUIRED, UH, LEGAL, UH, APPROVAL OR FORMALITY, UH, LIKE THE, UH, UH, ULTIMATE APPROVAL OF THE BONDS.

BUT, UH, I DO WANNA KNOW THAT THE COURT, UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, AGREES MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, UH, ON JUNE 30TH.

YESTERDAY, WE ACTUALLY, THE, UH, UH, PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, WHICH IS A PROSPECTUS, UH, SIMILAR TO A PROSPECTUS IN OTHER SECURITIES DEALS.

IT'S THE OFFERING DOCUMENT.

WE, UH, FINISHED THAT AND, AND WHAT WE THINK IS PRETTY FINALIZED.

DRAFT FORM SENT IT TO THE RATING AGENCIES.

AND SO NEXT WEEK, UH, ON, UH, WEDNESDAY, UH, JUDGE ALLEN AND BRANDY, UH, AND WE WILL HAVE A, A CALL WITH EACH OF THE TWO RATING AGENCIES WHERE THEY CAN, UH, REVIEW AND HOPEFULLY AFFIRM, POSSIBLY, UH, UPGRADE THE RATING, UH, OF THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'LL THEN DICTATE, UH, WHEN THE BONDS ARE MARKETED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CREDIT POSITION, UH, AND SO ON, UH, FOR INVESTORS AND SO ON.

UH, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, WE'D HOPE TO HAVE THE RATINGS IN HAND RIGHT AFTER THE 1ST OF AUGUST, AND THEN, UH, ACTUALLY POST THAT PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, UH, FOR INVESTORS TO SEE, UH, ON AUGUST 4TH AND UNDER STATE LAW.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE AUGUST 12TH

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HAVE TO DO IT AT A REGULAR MEETING.

AND ALSO THERE HAS TO BE FOUR OF THE FIVE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COURT MINIMUM PRESENT.

UH, AND ALSO THAT'S WHY WE'VE PICKED THAT, UH, AUGUST 12TH, UH, UH, REGULAR MEETING IN ORDER TO, UH, HAVE THE, UH, BONDS PRICED, UH, UH, WE'RE GONNA PLAN TO PRI UH, PRICE 'EM ON, UH, AUGUST THE 11TH, THAT MONDAY.

AND, UH, THEN THAT WAY THE INTEREST RATES WILL BE SET WHEN WE BRING, UH, EVERYTHING TO THE COURT IN THE EVENT THE MARKET'S A LITTLE HAYWIRE OR SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND THAT'S DISRUPTED, UH, INTEREST RATE MARKETS.

THE, UH, ORDER AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE WILL ALSO PROVIDE, UH, DELEGATED AUTHORITY, UH, SINCE, UH, THE COUNTY HAS A, A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF DEBT OUTSTANDING SO THAT THE COURT COULD APPROVE, AUTHORIZE IT ON THAT DATE, BUT THEN DELEGATE TO THE JUDGE AND AUDITOR, UH, ULTIMATE PRICING APPROVAL SO THAT IF WE HAD TO PUSH THE, UH, ACTUAL PRICING, UH, OF THE BOND ISSUE OUT, I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN IN, IN THAT CASE, WE'D ANTICIPATE THE MONEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY, UH, PRETTY EARLY IN SEPTEMBER, ABOUT A MONTH AFTER SALE.

SO WE'VE GOT SEPTEMBER 10TH.

UH, FOR THAT.

THE NEXT PAGE, UH, THE LAST TWO PAGES REALLY ARE KIND OF REDUNDANT WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN.

UH, THE IMPACT, UH, OF THE, UH, UH, DEBT SERVICE ON THE BOND ISSUE.

AND AS I THINK YOU TOLD THE PUBLIC, AND WE'VE REVIEWED IT'S 0.0081 PENNIES, UH, OR EIGHT TENTHS, UH, OF A CENT, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S REALLY DEPENDENT, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE, ON WHAT TAXABLE VALUES ARE.

AND GIVEN THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, IT'S VERY LIKELY VALUES ARE GONNA OUTGROW WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING EVEN.

AND SO THEREFORE THAT'LL REDUCE, HOPEFULLY THAT TAX IMPACT.

UH, BUT IF THAT PRICE, IF THAT IS THE EIGHT TENTHS OF A PENNY, YOU'LL NOTICE DOWN IN THAT LOWER PART, UH, AVERAGE HOME, A LITTLE OVER $310,000, THE IMPACT WOULD BE $25 A YEAR.

AND THAT'S ONLY A LITTLE OVER $2 A MONTH.

SO PRETTY NOMINAL.

UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THE LAST PAGE KIND OF FULL OF DETAILS AND SO ON, THAT'S THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE AND AND MODEL OF THE, UH, BOND ISSUE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEBT YOU ALREADY HAVE.

AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT COLUMN C, THAT'S THE TAV OR TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE, UH, GROWTH, UH, UH, COLUMN B IS THE ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

AND SO FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, UH, WE HAD ASSUMED AROUND JUST SLIGHTLY OVER 25 BILLION.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF, IF THIS YEAR COMES IN, HOPEFULLY MAYBE HIGHER, AND THEN THAT TREND CONTINUES, THAT'LL REDUCE THE, UH, REQUIRED TAX RATE, UH, GOING FORWARD.

BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND LIKE I SAID, UH, UH, WE'RE IN PROCESS TO, WITH THE RATINGS AND, UH, WORKING, GETTING UNDERWRITERS LINED UP AND SO ON TO, UH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BOND ISSUE.

WELL, SO FAR, BRANDY AND OUR TREASURER AND I, MYSELF HAVE MET WITH THREE OF THE UNDERWRITERS WE HAVE WITH THREE MORE TO GO.

UH, TWO, TWO MORE I BELIEVE.

TWO MORE TO GO.

AND SO FAR WE'RE, UH, PLEASED WITH ALL OF THEM.

AND SO THEY'VE ALL WORKED WITH YOU, OBVIOUSLY.

AND, AND MOST OF 'EM HAVE WORKED, UH, ON PRIOR ISSUES AND EVEN WORKED COUNTY ISSUES FOR SOME TIME.

UH, AND SO ON.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THROUGH WITH IT.

WE HAVE ONE TODAY, ONE TODAY, AND ONE TOMORROW, ONE, WHICH SHOULD BE THROUGH TOMORROW.

WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL MAKE OUR DECISION JUST TO EXPLAIN FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE ISSUE, I'VE RECOMMENDED TO THE JUDGE AND BRANDY, THREE, MAYBE FOUR FIRMS IN THE, UH, UNDERWRITING SYNDICATE.

UH, YOU DON'T WANT TOO MANY 'CAUSE IT CROWDS AND KIND OF REDUCES INCENTIVE AND SO ON.

BUT THE FIRMS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PRIOR COUNTY DEALS AND HAVE KIND OF STAYED IN CONTACT WITH THIS, UH, COUNTY ABOUT THIS UPCOMING ISSUE, THEY'RE ALL GOOD, UH, FIRMS AND SO ON.

AND SO, UH, PICKING THREE OR FOUR OF THOSE.

AND THEN THE, THE MAIN THING IS PICK WHO WOULD BE WHAT'S CALLED THE SENIOR MANAGER.

'CAUSE THEY KINDA RUN EVERYTHING ON BEHALF OF THE UNDERWRITING SYNDICATE AND EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S WHO WOULD BE MOST INTERACTIVE WITH, UH, AND ALL.

AND, UH, BUT, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO MISTAKES THAT CAN BE MADE.

IT'S, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, UH, WHO SEEMS, UH, UH, WHO WE LIKE WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH

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IN A LOT OF RESPECTS.

THAT'S IT.

BUT, AND THEY ALL HAVE GREAT QUALIFICATIONS.

OH, YES, SIR.

SO, BUT I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

LOOK FORWARD TO I, I'LL SAY, LIKE I TELLING COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS CAN'T CONTROL INTEREST RATES.

I WISH THEY WERE WHAT THEY WERE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.

OKAY, MS. BRENDA, MS. BRENDA CALLWAY IS HERE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENT AGREEMENT.

I CAN'T THINK, MIGHT BRING US 1%.

YOU KNOW, , THEY DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

[4. Brenda Callaway, P.E.: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Supplemental Agreement #1 for the US 175 Grade Separations Project between Kaufman County and Halff Associates in the amount of $3,104,967.00. ]

NUMBER ONE FOR THE US 1 75 GRADE SEPARATIONS PROJECT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND HALF ASSOCIATES, AMOUNT OF $3,104,967.

MORNING, BRENDA.

MORNING.

MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

UH, YES, WE HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU THIS MORNING.

HALF ASSOCIATES HAS RECENTLY COMPLETED THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SCHEMATIC DESIGN ON THESE TWO INTERCHANGE, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DETAILED DESIGN ON THESE SO WE CAN HAVE THEM PREPARED AND READY FOR LETTING.

WOULD YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THEY ARE SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR? YES.

IT'S US 1 75 IN KEMP AT BUSINESS US 1 75, AND AT FM 1895.

ANY QUESTIONS? VERY DANGEROUS.

INTERSTATE, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE MOVING.

YES, THEY HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS.

MANY YEARS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. PLAIN MAKES A SECOND.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND SIGN THESE.

ASK YOU IF YOU'LL, I'LL GIVE THESE BACK TO YOU AND GIVE THEM TO HER PLEASE.

THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT AROUND.

OKAY,

[5. Nathan Collins: Discuss/Consider/Approve the contract agreement between Brightspeed and Kaufman County renewing the metro E contracts.]

NUMBER FIVE.

MR. NATHAN.

HE WANTS TO DISCUSS WITH US AND POSSIBLY CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE CONTRACT BETWEEN RIGHT SPEED AND CULPA COUNTY RENEWING THE METRO E CONTRACTS.

HI NATHAN.

HI.

SO THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING WE'VE HAD FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

UH, IT'S JUST COMING, COMING UP ON RENEWAL.

UH, IT'S 36 MONTH TERMS. THE, THERE'S, UH, I BELIEVE SIX DIFFERENT CONTRACTS HERE.

SO WE HAVE, UH, THE KSO ACTUALLY HAS, UM, TWO OF THESE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE KSO AND THE EOC.

THIS ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN CONNECTION IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS USING FIBER SPEEDS.

UM, WE HAVE A, ANOTHER CONNECTION FROM OUR JUSTICE CENTER TO THE ANNEX.

UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO, UH, OF THE SIX YEAR.

AND THEN, UH, PART OF ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS IS ALSO FOR THE K SO'S, UH, PRI, WHICH IS THEIR PHONE TRUNKS COMING INTO THE BUILDING.

UM, THEY ORIGINALLY SENT ME A SIX MONTH CON OR A SIX YEAR CONTRACT, BUT I DON'T LIKE DOING IT THAT LONG.

UH, THEY REDUCED IT TO THREE YEARS AT THE SAME MONTHLY RATE.

UM, SO, UH, THAT'S PART OF THAT JUST TO RENEW WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.

THE PRICES DIDN'T CHANGE ON ANY OF 'EM.

IT'S THE SAME GOING FORWARD.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE TWO THAT I'M REMOVING.

SO ONE CIRCUIT AT THE EOC, WHICH WAS JUST USED BY THE COUNTY.

WE NO LONGER HAVE EQUIPMENT THERE.

STEVE HUEY'S THERE, BUT HE'S GONNA BE ON A DIFFERENT NETWORK.

AND THEN THE SOUTH CAMPUS, WE USED TO HAVE A, WE HAVE A METRO E CIRCUIT THERE, BUT I'M GONNA DISCONTINUE IT SINCE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF THERE.

AND I'LL HAVE A CONNECTION THERE.

BUT IT'S THROUGH RADIOS, SO OKAY.

IT'LL SAVE GOING FORWARD.

IT'LL SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BY, UH, SHUTTING OFF THOSE OTHER CONTRACTS.

BUT THE OTHER ONES, IT'S JUST GONNA STAY THE SAME PRICE FORWARD.

THAT'S GOOD.

DUDE.

VERY FEW THINGS STAY THE SAME.

SHERIFF, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

ANYONE IN MR. NO.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

A MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU, NATHAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SEAT THAT RIGHT? OH, THERE.

JUST HIDING BACK.

[6. Desiree Pool: Discuss/Consider/Approve the MOU with Urology Clinic of North Texas on inmate. ]

MR. DESIREE POOLE, SHE WANTS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND HOPEFULLY APPROVE THE MOU WITH, UH, UROLOGY CLINIC OF NORTH TEXAS FOR INMATES.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, I'M GONNA PASS OUT THE CORRECTED, UH,

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UM, WE HAVE AN INMATE THAT CAME INTO THE FACILITY THAT WAS SEEING A SPECIALIST.

UM, THE DOCTOR DID WRITE US A LETTER AND TELL US THE IMPORTANCE THAT HE KEEP THIS UP.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DO NOT ACCEPT MEDICAID RATES.

SO I SPOKE TO CHIEF COMPTON.

CHIEF COMPTON SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY WILL ACCEPT THE MEDICARE.

SO SHE SAID, PROCEED FORWARD.

UM, SO I WENT IN THERE, I'D DONE THE MOU FOR IT.

I HAD KAREN TO LOOK OVER IT.

SHE APPROVED IT.

THEY CAME BACK WITH A COUPLE OF CHANGES THEY WANTED TO ADD IN, AND THEN ME AND KAREN DECIDED WE WERE GONNA ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING IN TOO.

BASICALLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO ADD IN IS JUST THAT WE WOULD PAY AT THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MEDICARE DALLAS COUNTY RATE, WHICH IS THE SAME AS THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

AND WE ADDED AT THE BOTTOM THAT IF THE INDIVIDUAL DOES LEAVE THE, UH, THE JAIL, THAT WE ARE NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE BASICALLY FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING TO PUT IN THERE.

BUT ANY QUESTIONS? DESIREE, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.

SURE.

YOU SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY AND TAKE CARE OF HER PEOPLE.

SHERIFF, THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I, I THINK EVERYBODY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE DOES IN THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT SHE DOES FOR THE JAIL AND THE INMATE.

AND I KNOW THE HEALTH OUT THERE IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THING 'CAUSE MY CLIENTS ARE NOT THE BEST IN HEALTH, BUT SHE SAVES HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON OUR BILLS THAT Y'ALL DON'T SEE.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU, SHE DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB, HER AND HER CREW.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT SHE DOES.

'CAUSE SHE SAVES A LOT OF MONEY FOR US.

YES, SHE DOES.

ANY QUESTIONS? NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. LANE MAKES A MOTION.

HAVE SECOND.

MR. CROW MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF SAY AYE.

YOU'RE UP FOR THE NEXT 30 MINUTES.

THANK YOU MS. LORENA,

[7. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve advertising a RFP for Bank Depository. ]

FIRST OFF, WE WOULD CHOOSE, DISCUSS, AND APPROVE ADVERTISING FOR THE RFP FOR BANK REPOSITORY.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

UM, SO THIS IS CURRENTLY, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN OUR LAST RENEWAL AND IT'S SET TO EXPIRE AUGUST THE 25TH OF THIS YEAR.

WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN SOLICITATION PROCESS.

SO IF I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS SOLICITATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOW? I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MR. LAMB MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. MO.

SECOND.

A AYE.

CONSIDER AND APPROVE ADVERTISING.

ONCE AGAIN, DISCUSS,

[8. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve advertising a bid for 2 Inmate Transport Vans. ]

A BID FOR TWO INMATE TRANSPORT VANS.

CORRECT.

SO THIS IS A ONE-TIME PURCHASE FOR THE GEL.

UM, ONE VAN WILL HAVE A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE FOR UP TO SEVEN INMATES.

THE OTHER VAN WILL BE A FULL-SIZED VAN WITH NINE TO 13 INMATES.

UM, WE'RE BIDDING THIS OUT IN HOPES THAT WE COULD GET A BETTER COMPETITIVE PRICING INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH A COOPERATIVE.

OKAY, SHERIFF? YEAH.

WELL WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE GOT THE TWO VANS.

THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A HUNDRED, ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES ON.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS, Y'ALL REMEMBER THE BIG BUS WE BOUGHT THAT HAS THE WHEELCHAIR? WELL, WE DON'T USE THAT BIG BUS ANYMORE, SO WE WANT SELL IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THIS WAY.

WE TRIED DOING THE COMMISS, BUT WE BELIEVE THIS IS OUR BEST WAY TO DO IT.

MM-HMM.

AND IT'LL GIVE ME WHEELCHAIR.

I HATE TO SAY IT, I HAVE TO HAVE A WHEELCHAIR FOR SOME.

SURE.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO IT THAT WAY.

AND ALL THIS IS GONNA BE FUNDED THROUGH THE COMMISSARY FUND.

I GUESS WE QUIT USING THAT BIG BUS WHEN WE QUIT USING THE COURTHOUSE OVER HERE.

EXACTLY.

I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT WAS.

WE USED USED TO SIT OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.

YEP.

SO I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADVERTISING OF THE RFP.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKING MOTION? THERE YOU GO.

MR. CROW MAKES A MOTION OF A SECOND.

BILL MAKES A SECOND.

MR. LAN, ONCE AGAIN DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE ADVERTISING RFP FOR INMATE COMMISSARY.

OKAY,

[9. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve advertising a RFP for Inmate Commissary. ]

SO CURRENTLY WE'RE IN OUR LAST RENEWAL AGAIN, UH, THIS IS SET TO EXPIRE AUGUST THE 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN OUR SOLICITATION PROCESS.

I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADVERTISING OF THE RFP.

ONCE AGAIN, SHERIFF.

WELL, ONE THING ABOUT THE COMMISSARY DEAL, I ALWAYS PUT IT OUT HERE.

UH, Y'ALL REALLY DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO EVOLVE IT BECAUSE IT FALLS UNDERNEATH THE SHERIFF, UNDERNEATH THE LAW.

AND I'M THE ONE THAT PICK AT THE END.

UH, BUT I JUST TRY TO BE TRANSPARENT IN PUTTING THAT OUT HERE WHERE Y'ALL SEE IT.

WE TRY TO GET THE BEST DEAL THAT WE CAN.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT AIN'T ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE MAKE, IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO GIVE A SERVICE IN THE JAIL, BUT ALSO MAKING IT REASONABLE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND DO THAT.

AND YOU'VE ALWAYS MAKE SURE WE'RE TRANSPARENT.

PUT IT OUT HERE.

BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT.

YEP.

AND MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'M, THERE YOU GO.

SORRY.

EXCUSE .

YEAH, NO, I'M, I'M, I DON'T CARE.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION SPEAKING UP.

SO YOU MAKING A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

MR. MAKES SECOND.

A AYE.

DISCUSS CONSIDERING APPROVE AWARD OF CO KAKA COUNTY,

ONCE AGAIN, MS. LORENNA

[10. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve the award of Kaufman County Bid 2025-003 Annual Contract: Concrete Box Culverts, Header Walls and Guard Rails to MB Concrete, ]

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BE IT 2025 DASH OH OH THREE ANNUAL CONTRACT, CONCRETE BOX COVERAGE HERE, WALLS AND GUARDRAILS TO MB CONCRETE.

YES MA'AM.

SO WE RECEIVED ONE BID AND, UH, THAT WAS FROM MB CONCRETE.

THIS SUBMISSION INCLUDES TIER PRICING FOR 12 DIFFERENT CULVER SETS, HEADER WALLS, AND, UM, GUARD RAIL.

IF THE COMMISSIONER IS SATISFIED WITH THE, UM, SPEC AND THE PRICING, I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH AWARDING THE BUSINESS TO THE CONCRETE Y ALL OKAY.

WITH JUST RECEIVING ONE, ONE BID IS OKAY.

THAT'S ALL WE GOT.

YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

ENA, DISCUSS CONSIDERING APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF HAM, UH, PAD FOOT ROLLER BY SMITH, UH, KIRBY SMITH WITH PRECINCT TWO, UTILIZING BUYBOARD SIX 50, UH, 6 85 DASH 22.

OKAY, MS.

[11. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve the purchase of HAMM Padfoot Roller from Kirby-Smith for Precinct 2 utilizing BuyBoard Contract #685-22. ]

YES, MA'AM.

SO WE REVIEWED THE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT AND CONFIRM IT MEETS ALL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS TO TOTAL PRICES FROM 1 68.

I RECOMMEND THE PURCHASE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL MAKE MOTION.

RICHFIELD MAKES MOTION TO APPROVE.

HAVE A SECOND.

MR. WAR MAKES A SECOND.

THIS IS YOUR LAST ONE, ISN'T IT? UH, TWO.

[12. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve entering into contract and issuing a purchase order to JLM Contracting LLC in the amount of $189,722.66 for the metal building project to be located at Lake Ray Hubbard Drive in Forney utilizing TIPS cooperative contract 23010402. ]

GOT TWO.

TWO MORE.

CARPETED CONTRACT 2 3 0 1 0 4 0 2.

NO, SHE GOT ANOTHER ONE.

AFTER DISCUSS, CONSIDER AN APPROVE ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT USING A PURCHASE TO ORDER JLM CONTRACTING LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $189,722 AND 66 CENTS FOR A METAL BUILDING PROJECT TO BE LOCATED ON LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

DRIVE IN FARNEY UTILIZING TIPS.

YES MA'AM.

SO THE PURCHASE MEETS ALL PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS.

THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL CAME IN AT 274,000.

WE NEGOTIATED DOWN TO ONE EIGHTY NINE, A HUNDRED EIGHTY 9,000.

THAT'S A COST SAVINGS OF $85,000.

UM, WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE MARSHAL DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT SAFETY AND PERMITTING CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALL FOLLOWED.

ALL REQUIRED BONDS AND INSURANCE HAVE BEEN SECURED AND, UH, WILL BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION.

SO TURNAROUND TIME IS APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS.

THAT'S, UM, THAT INCLUDES ZERO FOUNDATION, YOUR MATERIAL DELIVERY AND INSTALLATION.

SO WE RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF GOING INTO THE CONTRACT AND ISSUING THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR 180 9.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND SAVING US THAT KIND OF MONEY.

WE DO THAT ON EVERYTHING.

THERE'S A LOT OF I KNOW YOU'RE BEEN TRYING GOING BACK AND FORTH.

ALRIGHT, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'M GONNA MAKE THIS MOTION FOR MR. PHILLIPS.

MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

CONSIDERING APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF JOHN DEERE 50 75 E CAB, UTILITY, TRACTOR AND POWER GUARD PROTECTION PLAN IN AMOUNT OF $46,549 AND 18 CENTS.

NOW THAT YOU LEFT, DISCUSS,

[13. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve the purchase of a John Deere 5075E Cab Utility Tractor and PowerGard Protection Plan in the amount of $46,549.18 for Road & Bridge Pet 4 using Sourcewell Ag 082923-DAC. ]

ROAD BRIDGE NUMBER FOUR, UTILIZING SOURCE 12 AG OH 8 2 9 2 3 DASH DAC.

YES MA'AM.

SO THE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND CONFIRMED THAT IT MEETS ALL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS.

I RECOMMEND THE PURCHASE MOVE FORWARD.

GOOD.

COMMISSIONER, YOU MAKE MOTION.

THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

A MOTION CARRIES

[14. Commissioner Kelly Lane: Discuss/Consider/Approve a road project for the Town of Poetry including shoulder and pothole repair for CR 249. ]

NUMBER 14.

COMMISSIONER LANE, THIS IS YOURS.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE A ROAD PROJECT FOR THE TOWN OF PORTER UTILIZING SHOULDER AND POTHOLE REPAIR FOR CANYON ROAD 2 49.

UH, JUST, UH, THE AGREEMENT.

WE, WE MET WITH THEM AND I GAVE 'EM AN AGREEMENT THEY SENT US TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS IS OUR FIRST PROJECT WITH THEM.

AND, UH, ANYWAY, WE'RE JUST DOING A $2,100 WHAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR JUST MATERIAL ONLY TO GET TO COUNTY ROAD 2 49 REPAIRED.

WELL, I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU PUT THAT FORM OF A MOTION.

YES, PLEASE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER LANE.

DO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER IMPROVED.

NUMBER

[15. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve Title VI Coordinator. ]

15 IS MINE.

HOLD ON.

LEMME SIGN THIS OVER HERE.

TITLE SIX COORDINATOR.

UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD, SHELLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IT WITH KAREN AND YOU CAN KINDA EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

AND THE NEXT ONE, BRAD, KAREN WAS GONNA BE HERE, BUT YOU'RE HERE.

YOU WANT US TO SAY ANYTHING WHEN WE GET TO THAT ONE ABOUT THIS BRIEF? OKAY, GO AHEAD SHELLY.

AND, UM, THEIR, UM, PROGRAM SPECIALIST WITH THE AADA A AND TITLE SIX.

SO KAREN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TXDOT

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UM, THEY'RE ASKING THAT WE UPDATE OUR PROCEDURES AND POLICIES.

UM, WE'RE A SUB-RECIPIENT UNDER THEM THAT THE RECIPIENT OF FEDERAL OR FUNDING GRANT FUNDING.

AND SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS.

SO WE ARE JUST UPDATING AND TURNING THEM IN UNDER THEIR OVERSIGHT AND WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THEM, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

ANYBODY KINDA UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO HERE? OH YEAH.

NOT THAT WE'VE NOT GONNA COST ANYTHING.

ANYTIME YOU DEAL WITH TITLE SIX, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

SO YEAH.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER LANE MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. CROW MAKES SECOND.

ONCE AGAIN, SHELLY, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE AADA A AND TITLE SIX POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

[16. Shelley Tackett/Karen Badgley: Discuss/Consider/Approve ADA and Title VI policies and procedures. ]

BRAD, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING WHILE KAREN AND SHELLY WERE THE ONES THAT WORKED ON THIS MORE DIRECTLY? I MEAN, THESE ARE GONNA BE POLICIES, UM, THAT RELATE TO THE MARI OF DISABILITIES AT AND BETWEEN THAT AND THE REQUIREMENTS TO TEXT UP, WE ARE MANDATED TO HAVE THESE IN PLACE.

I KNOW THAT KAREN AND SHELLY MET FOR A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS AND YES.

UM, I KNOW SHE TOLD ME THEY WERE ALL IN ORDER AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL FROM LEGAL.

WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

MR. WILL MAKES A SECOND.

[17. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve Fitch Ratings, Inc. and Standard & Poor's Global, Inc. to complete a credit rating for the Juvenile Detention Center bond issue. ]

IS MINE AGAIN.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVED FIT RATINGS AND STANDARD AND POORS GLOBAL INC.

TO COMPLETE A CREDIT RATING FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER BOND ISSUE.

BRANDI? YES, SIR.

SO NEXT WEEK WE HAVE THE CALLS LIKE GEORGE WILLIFORD MENTIONED.

WE DO HAVE THE TWO CALLS WITH S AND P AND FITCH FOR THE CREDIT RATINGS FOR THE BOND ISSUANCE.

UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY WITH FITCH, UM, IN 2022 WE HAD AA RATING.

AND THEN THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD ANOTHER RATING WITH THEM IN JANUARY, UM, 2025.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT RATING TO AA POSITIVE.

UM, SO WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

UM, WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL.

THE ONLY OTHER, UM, ONE THAT YOU COULD GET IS AAA.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP.

WE'RE DOING WELL WITH OUR FINANCES AND, AND LIKE THE GUY SAID WHEN HE CAME IN EARLIER, IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE DOING A VERY CONSERVATIVE TYPE OPERATION.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WE'VE UPGRADED IN OUR RATING.

AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO BE MONITORING WHAT WE DO SPEND AND HOW WE SAVE.

SO EXACTLY.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

[18. Judge Allen : Discuss/Consider/Approve Kaufman County submitting request to Texas Commission on Environmental Quality to hold a public hearing on the Petition for the Creation of Willow Ranch Municipal Utility District No. 1 of Kaufman County. ]

THE NEXT ONE IS MINE.

AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE KAUFMAN COUNTY SUBMITTING REQUESTS TO TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PETITION OF THE CREATION OF WILLOW RANCH MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

BRAD'S GONNA SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THIS, ABOUT ALL THESE MUD DISTRICTS THAT'S COMING IN THE COUNTY.

WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

SO THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM ARE ESSENTIALLY JUST THE COUNTY, UH, FORMERLY LETTING TCQ KNOW THAT WE WOULD LIKE, UH, THERE TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THEIR APPLICATIONS THAT ARE SUBMITTED FOR MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS.

THE PROCESS IS THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT WILL SEND THIS PETITION TO TCQ, WERE NOTIFIED OF IT.

TCQ, IF NO ONE ASKS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, CAN JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE IT IF IT MEETS JUST, IF IT CHECKS ALL THE BOXES, ESSENTIALLY.

BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN FOLKS WHO CAN ASK FOR IT TO AT LEAST GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE ARE REQUESTING THAT SO THAT AT LEAST OUR CITIZENS COULD GO AND VOICE THEIR OPINION.

AND WHEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING HAPPENS, WE CAN FILE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WHILE TCQ DOESN'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO 'EM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO CONSIDER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO BASICALLY AT LEAST HAVE THE HEARING AND THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE SAME THING FOR THE OTHER ONE WE'VE BEEN RECENTLY NOTIFIED OF.

AND WE, AND, AND KEITH BELL TRIED TO HELP US MORE IN THIS LINE BY MAKING SURE THEY HAD THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THESE BUDS ONCE THEY'RE HERE WITHIN A 10 MILE AREA.

BUT THAT DIDN'T OBVIOUSLY PASS.

BUT THIS IS ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO.

SO OUR CITIZENS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND AIR THEIR CONCERNS.

OTHERWISE IT IS JUST A RUBBER STAMP.

WILL CONSIDER ON WHETHER TO APPROVE OR DENY.

SO I THINK IT'S, IM IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS.

UH, THERE'S REASON I HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.

WE DO HAVE A, A VEHICLE NOW TO WHERE WE CAN POSSIBLY HELP.

SO THAT'S REASON AND CHEER.

UM, AND JUST FOR, UH, CLARIFICATION, NEXT WEEK I'LL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR Y'ALL TO DISCUSS EACH OF THESE MUDS IN MORE DETAIL AND WHAT WE COULD DO FOR, UM, CAN WE FOR WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION AS FAR AS THE ITEMS THEY WILL CONSIDER.

'CAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN STATUTORY THINGS THEY

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SO IF WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT WON'T REALLY BE CONSIDERED.

SO I'LL COME OUT WITH MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

BUT THIS IS JUST TO REQUEST THE HEARING.

NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER LA MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDERED APPROVED.

[19. Judge Allen : Discuss/Consider/Approve Kaufman County submitting request to Texas Commission on Environmental Quality to hold a public hearing on the Petition for the Creation of Kaufman County Municipal Utility District No. 16. ]

NUMBER 19 IS MINE.

AGAIN.

KAUFMAN COUNTY SUBMITTING REQUEST TO TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF KAUFMAN COUNTY MUNICIPAL DISTRICT NUMBER 16.

BUT WE'LL DO EACH AS THESE MUDS COME IN, WE'LL DO EACH THAT EACH TIME.

MAKE IT FORMAL.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MR. CROW MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

OKAY, MS.

[20. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line item and budget transfers/corrections. ]

AL, YOUR TURN.

DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

YES SIR.

SO COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, THESE WERE EMAILED OUT PREVIOUSLY.

THEY'RE ROUTINE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

UM, WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING YOU NEED A QUESTION OR COMMENT ON? NO.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

STILL HAVE A SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES SECOND.

A MOTION CARRIES NUMBER

[21. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor. ]

21.

MS. AUDITOR, ONCE AGAIN DISCUSS.

CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

THIS WEEK WE HAVE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES TOTALING $1,304,955 AND 55 CENTS.

THAT'S MOSTLY MADE UP OF COURT COSTS AND ROAD BOND EXPENDITURES.

WE ALSO HAVE JUROR CHECKS OF $860.

WE HAVE A FEW PAYROLLS TOTALING $78,296 AND 71 CENTS.

AND WE HAVE A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1,384,112 AND 26 CENTS.

AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO PAY ANY QUESTIONS? I OBJECT.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? NO.

MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

WAYNE MAKES A SECOND.

A A A MOTION CARRIES.

MR. PHILLIPS,

[22. Adjourn Meeting.]

I MAKE A MOTION.

ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

MR. K CROW MAKES A SECOND.

A AYE.