* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Call to Order] [00:00:03] MORE THE INVOCATION LED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER MOORE THAN OUR PLEDGES BY COMMISSIONER LANE. IF YOU'D JOIN ME AND STAND, PLEASE, I PRAY. DEAR ONLY FATHER, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU SHOW US EACH AND EVERY DAY. LORD, WE PRAY FOR WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING TODAY THAT AS WE DO THE COUNTY BUSINESS, LORD, TO BE YOUR WILL, NOT OURS. AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WOMEN AND MEN ABROAD AND OUR ARMED FORCES THAT ARE SERVING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. WE PRAY FOR GOOD DECISION MAKING THAT OUR GOVERNMENT LEVELS, LORD, AND AROUND THE WORLD WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. WE JUST, JUST GIVE YOU PRAISE AS ALWAYS. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. YEAH, I THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY. LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE. BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK, MS. LAURA? OKAY. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. [1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE] DO WE HAVE ANYTHING GUYS? YES, SIR. I DO. WHAT YOU GOT, UH, THIS WEEKEND. WE DO HAVE THE COUNTY CLEANUP ON AUGUST 2ND, WHICH IS GONNA BE AT THE KEMP DECO STATION. OKAY. JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS ONE IS NOT ONE THAT'S GONNA TAKE ANY TIRES. OKAY. UH, AND THEN ALSO NO CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. UH, UH, FROM LIKE DEBRIS FROM DUMP TRAILERS AND CLOSED TRAILERS AND PAINTS, ELECTRONICS MAY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FEE, BUT PLEASE BRING OUT YOUR JUNK AND CLEAN UP. OKAY. BETTER THAT THAN FIND ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR US TO PICK IT UP. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? IT WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR [2. CONSENT AGENDA] CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE, UH, FIVE ITEMS THERE. Y'ALL HAVE ALL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THEM, GO OVER THEM. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CHANGES, CORRECTIONS? NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MS. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. CROW MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NUMBER THREE. MR. TOMMY [3. Tommy Phillips: Discuss/Present the AgriLife Extension quarterly report.] PHILLIPS, DISCUSS, PRESENT THE AGRILIFE EXTENSION QUARTERLY REPORT. MORNING, TOMMY. GOOD MORNING. WELL, I'M A LONE RANGER THIS MORNING, SO, ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET. UH, THANK Y'ALL. AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR OUR QUARTERLY REPORT. JUST KIND OF WANT TO GIVE YOU'ALL SOME UPDATES FROM THINGS THAT TRANSPIRED FROM APRIL TO JUNE AND SOME OF OUR PROGRAMMING EFFORTS. AND WE'LL KIND OF START OFF WITH, LET'S START OFF WITH OUR FOUR H PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF WALK, WORK A LITTLE BACKWARDS FROM WHAT'S IN Y'ALL'S PROGRAM, BUT SUMMERTIME FOR, FOR OUR FOUR H PROGRAM HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BUSIEST. I DON'T SAY IT IS THE BUSIEST 'CAUSE STOCK SHOW SEASON'S TYPICALLY ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKES CARRY OUTTA THE OFFICE FROM OCTOBER TO MARCH. BUT YEAH. UH, BUT SUMMERTIME IS ONE OF OUR MOST ACTIVE AND SOME THINGS THAT, UH, WE WERE VERY PROUD OF. WE HAD SOME NINE YOUTH PARTICIPATE IN OUR DISTRICT FOUR ROUNDUP THAT WE HELD IN FARMERSVILLE, AND CARRIE AND I BOTH HELPED WITH THAT. CARRIE KIND OF COORDINATES OUR, OUR CONTEST ROOM FOR THAT DAY, MAY KINDA WRAPPED UP OUR CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD TO, TO SHOW, IF Y'ALL LOOK IN Y'ALL'S FURTHER DOCUMENTS IN THERE, THAT WHEN WE FINISHED UP THE YEAR ON CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT, WE HAD 24,798 STUDENTS THAT WE REACHED. NOW THAT'S NON DUPLICATED NUMBERS. WE MAY HAVE SEEN KIDS MORE THAN THAN THAT, BUT WE TOUCHED 24,000 KIDS ONE TIME. UH, SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S IN PART TO Y'ALL'S GENEROSITY FOR US TO HAVE IN OUR PROGRAM ASSISTANCE AND FOR TARA AND, AND STEPHANIE'S TIRELESS EFFORTS TRYING TO GET THOSE, THOSE KIDS, UM, THE EDUCATION THAT THEY NEED. UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE QUOTES FROM THE STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT THOSE, THOSE LADIES DO FOR US AND OUR KIDS. UH, SO WE'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR OUR SCHOOL CURRICULUM, UH, WITHIN THE COUNTY. UH, SOME OTHER THINGS WRAPPING UP, UH, FOR OUR FOUR H PROGRAM, AGAIN, JUST OUR DISTRICT ROUNDUP AND THEN OUR STATE ROUNDUP IN JUNE, VERY PROUD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET $42,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS FOR SOME OF OUR KIDDOS. UH, SO KIND OF ASSIST THEM WITH GOING TO THE COLLEGE THIS NEXT YEAR. UH, HAD KIDDOS PARTICIPATE IN THE DISTRICT, UH, UH, HORSE PROJECT, UH, CAMP THAT WE HAD OVER IN GAINESVILLE BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNE. AND THEN WRAPPED UP AT OUR DISTRICT LEADERSHIP LAB, OUR ULTRA LEADERSHIP LAB AND CAMP AKIVA AT THE END OF MIDDLE END OF JUNE. THEN, OF COURSE, CARRIE SPENT THE REST OF JUNE DOING VALIDATIONS WITH STEERS AND LAMBS AND GOATS AND BREEDING HEIFERS. YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE. THAT WAS WHEN SHE HAS HER DOOR SHUT AND SHE'S IN THE OFFICE. YOU DON'T MESS WITH HER DURING VALIDATION TIME. . UH, SO VERY, VERY, [00:05:01] VERY BUSY TIME OF MONTH. UH, AND I KNOW THIS NEXT WEEK SHE'LL BE GOING OFF TO, UH, FOUR H AGENTS ASSOCIATION MEETING IN AMARILLO. I'M, I'M KNOW SHE'S REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO TAKING, UH, TARA AND STEPHANIE WITH HER ON THAT. KIND OF GO BACK OVER TO SOME OF OUR AG AND NATURAL RESOURCE PROGRAMMING. WE REALLY HAD A SUCCESSFUL, UH, UPPER SABINE CATTLEMAN'S CONFERENCE IN MAY. UH, WISH WE'D HAD THE NUMBERS THERE. I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THOSE DAYS. IT WAS TOO PRETTY FOR FOLKS TO, TO COME TO A PROGRAM. WE REALLY NEEDED JUST A CLOUDY, RAINY DAY FOR PEOPLE TO COME. THERE YOU GO. UM, BUT REALLY GREAT PROGRAM. DR. GID DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB THAT DAY, UM, WAS REALLY GREAT SPEAKERS. AND THEN OF COURSE, GABRIEL RANCH IS ALWAYS JUST A VERY, UM, WELCOMING PLACE FOR US TO, TO HAVE THAT SPOKE AT THE UPPER NATURE'S PESTICIDE CONFERENCE THE FOLLOWING WEEK IN CHANDLER, AND THEY HAD ABOUT 400 PE PEOPLE AT IT. UH, OF COURSE, OUR LIVESTOCK AND FORGE COMMITTEE HAS MET A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING THIS TIME. UH, OUR MASTER GARDENERS, AND IT'S NOT IN HERE, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE HELD TWO OR THREE LITTLE LIBRARY SERIES WHERE THEY'RE TEACHING FOLKS ABOUT CACTUS AND TOMATOES AND SOIL HEALTH. VERY, VERY PROUD OF WHAT THEY'RE BEEN DOING. THEY'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF REDESIGNING THE RESOURCE CENTERS, GARDEN BEDS OUTSIDE. UH, THEY'VE HAD SOME, SOME FLOODING ISSUES THERE WHERE THEY CAN'T REALLY KEEP PLANTS GROWING, SO THEY'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF REDOING THAT. SINCE THEN, AS OUR NEW MEETING LOCATION, UH, WE WRAPPED UP AND I WAS PART OF THE DIS THE STATE ROUNDUP AS WELL, SINCE I WRAPPED UP MY TENURE AS PRESIDENT OF TC AA LAST WEEK. BUT VERY, VERY NICE HONOR THAT WE WERE ABLE TO JUST, UH, BESTOW UPON A YOUNG MAN FROM THRO MORTON COUNTY, UH, TC AAA, OUR AG AGENTS ASSOCIATION TEAMS UP WITH AG WORKERS MUTUAL INSURANCE EVERY YEAR, UH, TO HOST A, A $5,000 SCHOLARSHIP FOR A KIDDO GRADUATING. SO I GOT TO GO TO THE SCHOLARSHIP BANK WITH THIS, THIS YEAR AT TEXAS FOUR H ROUNDUP AND GIVE THAT TO THAT YOUNG MAN. SO, OH, YOU GOT A NICE LOOKING PICTURE HERE OF YOU THOUGH. THAT KID MADE THAT PICTURE. I MADE IT UGLIER. SO, UH, BUT ANYWAY, Y'ALL SEE THE UPCOMING EVENTS, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S FIXING TO BE FAST AND FURIOUS WITH US. OF COURSE, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN UP AND DOWN THE ROAD HAY CUTTING, LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS, UH, EVERYBODY AND THEIR BROTHER'S MAKING HAY. UH, I'M HOPING THAT DOESN'T DISCOURAGE FOLKS AND I'M REALLY, REALLY PUSHING TO GET THAT STUFF SAMPLED, UH, BE PART OF THE HAY SHOW. IT'S NOT JUST A CONTEST, BUT I THINK FOLKS REALLY NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GETTING THAT HAY TESTED, KNOW HOW TO FEED THIS WINTER. 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS WINTER'S GONNA BE LIKE. RIGHT. UM, SO PARTICIPATING IN THAT SEPTEMBER 19TH, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE HOSTING OUR ANNUAL KAMAN COUNTY FALL CATTLEMAN'S CONFERENCE. UH, WE'RE GONNA HOST IT AT THE CIVIC CENTER THIS YEAR. UH, HOPING TO HAVE A GOOD CROWD FOR IT. UH, AND THEN OUR HAY SHOW OCTOBER 28TH. I KNOW THAT SEVERAL DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GONNA BE THAT LONG, BUT IT, IT'LL BE RIGHT HERE FOR, IT'S BEFORE WE KNOW IT, BUT OUR HAY SHOW OCTOBER 28TH AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. UH, SO MARK THAT ON YOUR CALENDARS. ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT ESTIMATED I, I READ A REPORT MM-HMM . THAT THE, UH, NUMBER OF CATTLE IN THE UNITED STATES IS LOWEST JUST BEEN SINCE THE EARLY SIXTIES. CORRECT. WHAT'S, WHERE'S COFFMAN COUNTY? I DON'T SEE THE, OUR, OUR NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY HOLDING. WE'RE ABOUT, I THINK THE LAST, WHEN I LOOKED AT DOING THE AG INCREMENT REPORT INTO OF LAST YEAR, FIRST OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE STILL HOLDING ABOUT 34,000 MAMA COWS. OKAY. UH, NOW WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GOT PRICES LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, IT'S HARD TO HOLD 'EM, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN MY OLD COWORKERS SITS IN SALE BARN TWO OR THREE DAYS A WEEK, AND HE SAID HE'S SEEING MOM AND POPS SELLING OUT. UH, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE GRASS. IT'S NOT 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE WATER. HOW CAN YOU TURN DOWN, I SAW A REPORT, I SAW A REPORT LAST WEEK, 115 POUND BABY CALF AND EMORY BROUGHT $1,500. YEAH. YOU 165 POUND CALF BROUGHT $7 AND 70 CENTS. THAT'S CRAZY. IT'S HARD TO TURN DOWN THAT MONEY I WOULD SELL DON'T RUN DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, AFRAID IT'S GONNA GO UP. OH, EXACTLY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE REPORT IT HAS AND THE REPORTS IN THE FEED LOTS, THEY'RE 15 TO 20% WITH DOWN FROM WHAT THEY NEED TO BE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO, YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. TREES THE HAMBURGER HIGH. EXACTLY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOMMY? THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS THANK Y DO Y APPRECIATE Y'ALL ALWAYS BUSY. I KNOW. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU'ALL. OKAY, NUMBER [4 . Jeremy Simmons and Heather Gesino with CareVide: Discuss/Consider a proclamation recognizing August 3-9 as National Health Center Week.] FOUR IS JEREMY SIMMONS AND HEATHER CASINO, UH, WITH IDE. IS THAT RIGHT? IDE? YES. Y'ALL COME FORWARD PLEASE DISCUSS. CONSIDER PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZED IN AUGUST THREE THROUGH NINE IS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK. GREAT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S JEREMY SIMMONS AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, STACY AND HEATHER HERE FROM OUR TEAM AT KAUFMAN. SO WE'RE HERE WITH CARE PROVIDE. WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING CARE TO UNDERSERVED [00:10:01] INDIVIDUALS IN NORTH TEXAS FOR ABOUT 46 YEARS. UM, JUST HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. IN THE LAST YEAR WE PROVIDED CARE TO OVER 4,000 INDIVIDUALS FROM LITTLE BABIES TO, UH, TO ADULTS. UM, HEATHER IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS. AND SO, UH, WE'RE JUST COME COMING. WE WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, AWARENESS OF AUGUST THREE THROUGH NINTH AS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK. WE ARE PART OF THE SAFETY NET. AND SO WE SEE PATIENTS REGARDLESS OF THEIR INSURANCE STATUS OR THEIR ABILITY TO PAY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO PRIMARY CARE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND OF COURSE I'VE KNOWN HEATHER SINCE FOREVER. FOREVER. YES. AND IT IS I IMPORTANT WORK AND WE'RE GLAD THAT WE HAVE THANK YOU. AN ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THIS TO HELP FOLKS THAT CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES PRETTY MUCH. GREAT. SO I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DECLARE THAT WEEK OF AUGUST 3RD THROUGH THE NINTH IS, UH, NATIONAL HEALTHCARE WEEK. AND IT SAYS HERE, FOR, FOR NEARLY 60 YEARS, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS HAVE PROVIDED HIGH QUALITY, AFFORDABLE, COMPREHENSIVE, AND PRIMARY PRESENTIVE HEALTHCARE IN OUR NATION'S MEDICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS ARE A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THE NATION'S HEALTH SYSTEM SERVING RURAL POPULATIONS AND OFTEN THE ONLY ACCESSIBLE AND DEPENDABLE SOURCE OF PRIMARY CARE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS DEVELOP NEW APPROACHES TO INTEGRATING A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES BEYOND PRIMARY CARE, INCLUDING ORAL HEALTH, VISION, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, NUTRITION, PHARMACY SERVICES TO MEET THE CHALLENGES AND THEIR, UH, THEIR COMMUNITIES. COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS ARE LOCALLY OWNED AND OPERATED BY A SMALL BUSINESS TO HELP TO PROVIDE LOCAL ECONOMIES GENERATING ONE POINT, I MEAN NO, IT'S 118 BILLION IN ECONOMY ACTIVITY. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. YEAH. NATIONWIDE, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. UH, THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER MODEL CONTINUES TO PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE MEANS OF OVERCOMING BARRIERS TO HEALTHCARE ACCESS, INCLUDING GEOGRAPHY, INCOME, AND INSURANCE STATUS. THE NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE AMERICA'S NEARLY 1500 COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS, OVER 16,000 SERVICE DELIVERY SITES DURING THE NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK. WE CELEBRATE THE LEGACY OF AMERICA'S COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS AND THEIR VITAL ROLE IN SHAPING THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE OF THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. THEREFORE, I JAKE ALLEN KAUFMAN COUNTY JUDGE DO HEREBY AND PROCLAIM AUGUST 3, 3, 9 20 25. ITS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK AND I ENCOURAGE ALL AMERICANS TO PARTICIPATE THIS WEEK. INVESTED THEIR LOCAL HEALTHCARE CENTER CELEBRATING THE VITAL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AMERICA'S COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE. THIS 29TH DAY OF JULY, 2025. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. AND I HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO GIVE TO YOU. IF Y'ALL WILL COME UP HERE THEN. WE'LL GUYS, Y'ALL WILL GATHER AROUND AND WE GET A PICTURE. ONE OF Y'ALL WILL HOLD THIS IN FRONT OF YOU THERE. ALRIGHT. ARE YOU READY? MM-HMM . YEAH. RANDY, IF YOU'RE READY. 1, 2, 3. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB. JOB. OKAY. WE NEED TO VOTE ON, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MR. [5. Jeremy Mungin: Discuss/Consider/Approve installation of water transmission line on County Road 245 in Precinct 3.] JEREMY, WHERE ARE YOU? DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF WATER TRANSITION LINE ON COUNTY ROAD 2 45 IN PRECINCT. THREE MORNING, JEREMY. GOOD MORNING. MORNING COMMISSIONERS. UH, SO THE ITEM I'M BRINGING FORWARD IS THE WATER TRANSMISSION LINE INSTALLED BY RCH WATER SUPPLY. UM, THEY DO HAVE A 30 FOOT EASEMENT IN WHICH THE LINE WILL BE PLACED IN THE, UH, COUNTY USE LAND PERMIT IS TO COVER THE BORE THAT THEY'RE USING TO BORE UNDERNEATH 2 45. SO, UM, WE HAVE THE MOU AND EVERYTHING AND THEY ARE AWARE OF ALL THE IMPACTS OR WHATNOT. SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, I MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. COMMISSIONER LANE MAKES A MOTION. HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER KROLL MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU MS. MONIQUE. [6. Monique Hunter: Discuss/Consider/Approve the renewal of the lnterlocal Agreement between North Central Texas Emergency Communications District and Kaufman County for a two year term effective October 2, 2025 to September 30, 2027.] I DON'T SEE MISS MONIQUE. NO, I'M IN HER PLACE. YOU'RE IN HER PLACE. I THOUGHT MAYBE. SO IS SHE FEELING ANY BETTER? UH, A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW SHE'S BEEN OUT SICK. SO. OKAY. WE'RE GOING DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE RENEWAL OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DISTRICT AND KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE OCTOBER [00:15:01] THE SECOND TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. GOOD MORNING. YES. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. UH, THIS IS, UM, JUST A REVISION ON THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THEY JUST HAD A COUPLE OF CHANGES. THEY UPDATED A TABLE OF ERRORS AND DEFINITIONS WERE ADDED. OKAY. Y'ALL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THIS. ANY COMMENTS CHANGES? NO. NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE. HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. PHELPS MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION. CARRIE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, MS. [7. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve a 36 month subscription for Nutanix Cloud Pro Software license for edge sites and production software support service from GHA Technologies, utilizing Omnia Contract R200803.] LORENA, THIS DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE AT 36TH MONTH SUBSCRIPTION TO, UH, NUIX CLOUD PRO SOFTWARE LICENSE FOR EDGE SITES AND PRODUCTION SOFTWARE SUPPORT SERVICE FOR THE GHA TECHNOLOGIES UTILIZING, UH, OMNIA CONTRACT R 2 0 0 8 0 3. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING. AND COMMISSIONERS. UM, SO THE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT HAS BEEN REVIEWED. IT MEETS ALL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS. THE PURCHASE PRICE IS 53,623 AND 18 CENTS. I RECOMMEND THE PURCHASE. I DO HAVE NATHAN HERE TODAY, THIS MORNING IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THIS MONEY'S IN YOUR BUDGET. IT'S . ALRIGHT. IT WAS, UH, LESS THAN WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE, SO, OKAY. WE'RE GOOD THEN I GUESS. HUH? HAD MANY HACKERS TAKEN OUT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. , ANY QUESTIONS? , THIS IS STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, SO YES. NO, I AGREE. OKAY. NEED MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY, MR. DOCTOR, [8. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line item and budget transfers/corrections.] DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS. YES SIR. WE HAVE SEVERAL THIS WEEK. UM, SOME OF THEM ARE RECORDING REVENUE, ADDITIONAL REVENUE INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENTS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE ROUTINE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS TO COVER PURCHASES AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT APPROVAL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALLER? I'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT ALL THESE. NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MR. CROW MAKES THE MOTION. DO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND FOR YOU. MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION CARRIES MS. ERY ONCE [9. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.] AGAIN DISCUSS. CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AND FINANCIAL INFORMATION. YES, SIR. SO THIS WEEK WE HAVE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES TOTALING $1,592,745 AND 94 CENTS. MOST OF THAT IS MADE UP OF EMPLOYEE INSURANCE AND ROAD BOND EXPENDITURES. WE ALSO HAVE JUROR CHECKS OF $5,892 FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1,598,637 AND 94 CENTS. AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO PAY I YOUR QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION BY MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY, I THINK, I THINK I WANT TO MOVE NUMBER, UH, 10. THE WORKSHOP AFTER WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION, I THINK IT'LL MAKE MORE MEANING. SO AT THIS TIME WE [11. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and entering into an Executive Session pursuant to section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss the Director of Human Resources position and job duties associated with that position.] NEED A MOTION TO ENTER TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MR. LANE MAKES THE MOTION. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. IT'S UH, NINE 18. OKAY. I [12. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and entering back into regular meeting.] NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MR. LANE MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. CROW MAKES SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR CI. AYE. AYE. AND THE TIME IS 9 47. [13. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider taking any action resulting from the Executive Session.] AND NUMBER 12. THERE'S NO DECISION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. [10. Workshop: Workshop to discuss Fiscal Year 2025-2026 budget.] SO NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO OUR WORKSHOP AND DISCUSS THE BUDGET. WE'RE GONNA WAIT JUST A MINUTE SO WE'LL GET THE NEW UPDATED SHEETS FROM THE AUDITOR AND GET STARTED. NO, YOU CAN USE THAT. [00:21:13] WE DON'T KNOW YET. SOMEBODY'S ALREADY HERE THAT'S GOING BE EXTRA PAID FOR ALL THE BOOKINGS AND MAKING SURE IT'S CLEANED UP BEFORE AND AFTER. BE SOMEBODY'S HERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHO YET. BRAND NEW GOING SIX X ON A HUNDRED BROKE. CAN'T FIX THOSE. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING OVER THERE. YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYMORE. WE'RE DOING IT HERE. OKAY. INSTEAD OF PAYING THEM OVER, THEY WERE NOT HAVING THE GOOD RESULT WATCHING IT. FOR SURE. THEY GOT SO MESSED UP. MAINTENANCE. WHO NEEDS TO BE, OH, I WAS TOLD TODAY THE KAPEN HARRELL BUILDING'S FOR SALE. ARE THEY? WELL I THINK THE LITTLE KAPEN HARRELL BUILDING, IT'S FOR SALE. I TALKED TO CAROL NEWSPAPER. BOUGHT UP. SOMEBODY SAID IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE LIKE MINOLA PAPER OR SOMETHING BOUGHT. I THINK THEY'RE ON BOTH OF THEM. OKAY. I DUNNO HOW BIG IT IS. I KNOW IT'S OLD. YOU WANNA PAUSE THE VOICE FOR A MINUTE? THAT'S FINE. OKAY. WE'RE BACK IN THE WORKSHOP. WE'RE THE AUDITOR IS PRINTING SOME NEW NUMBERS FOR US TO LOOK AT. AND SO GUYS, IF YOU WILL GET THESE SHEETS, HERE IS THE WORKING PAYROLL REQUEST AND WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN TO ONE AT A TIME. OKAY. UH, Y'ALL NEED Y'ALL HAVE A COFFEE? YEAH, I'LL GET UP. I'LL GET UP. HE'S GOT AN EXTRA ONE FOR YOU. OH, YOU GOT IT. PRESS THAT DOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL, BUT KAREN AND I CAN SHARE AND SO WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN ONE ITEM ITEM AT A TIME. AND SO, UH, WE'LL START THERE WITH MINE COUNTY JUDGE CARL LOWES, UH, IS GOING DOWN TO $2,500 FOR THE, UH, ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR. IT WAS AT THE FIVE, WE LOAN IT TO 2,500. THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW. NUMBER TWO, CERTIFICATE PAY. WE HAVE A, A CERTIFIED COURT MANAGER THAT'S A $2,000 CERTIFICATE PAY, WHICH WE DO FOR EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN DA'S OFFICE. THE DA PAY ADJUSTMENTS SHE'S ASKING FOR, WELL, OKAY, ONE NEW PARALEGAL TWO POSITION, A GRANT FUNDED INVESTIGATOR AND ANOTHER GRANT FUNDED. MISDEMEANOR. MISDEMEANOR AND STEP PAY ADJUSTMENTS INCLUDING LONGEVITY AT 10 YEARS PLUS. DO YOU SEE THE DOLLARS OVER THERE AS TO WHAT THAT INCREASES ARE? AND MS. DA, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE PARALEGAL THE NEED FOR THAT. UH, OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. THE PARALEGAL TWO IS, UH, [00:25:01] THE INTAKE POSITION INTAKE IN CASES. AND SO, UM, IT'S NOT OUR HIGHEST PARALEGAL POSITION, WHICH IS, I ALWAYS FORGET NOW WHICH WAY WE GO. IF IT'S A ONE OR A THREE. THIS IS ON INTAKE AND WE JUST CAN'T KEEP UP BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH. WE'RE 260 CASES DOWN AND WE, IT, IT, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE OUR COMP TIME HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH 'CAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY. SO WHEN, UM, AGENCIES FILE CASES, THOSE CASES HAVE TO BE ENTERED, THEN THE CASES GO FROM OUR OFFICE TO THE DIFFERENT CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE'RE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GET THE CASES PROCESSED BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH. AND SO I'VE GOTTA, WE ASKED FOR TWO, UM, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING. SO IT'S FOR THE ONE AND OBVIOUSLY THE, THE INVESTIGATOR AND THE MISDEMEANOR ARE, UM, BUDGET NEUTRAL BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THOSE AND THEY ONLY REALLY WAS SOME OF THE PAY ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THE, UM, FELONY, UM, CHIEF POSITIONS. AND I'D ASK FOR TWO AND THE KATE CUT OUT THE FELONY TWO PEOPLE. AND IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA LOOK AT A DIFFERENT COLA, I WOULD ASK FOR THE PERSON TO EITHER GET WHAT I REQUESTED OR THE COLA, WHICHEVER AMOUNT IS HIGHER. OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER AT MY READY. BUT AT 3% I THINK THAT EVERY, EVERY LITTLE BIT THAT I'D ASKED FOR, FOR THE DIFFERENT CHIEFS WOULD'VE BEEN MORE, BUT ON SOME PEOPLE, UM, THE 4% MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MORE THAN THE ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. BUT YOU HAD ASKED FOR BOTH AND YOU HAD SAID THAT THE COUNTY WASN'T ABLE TO DO THAT. YEAH. SO THAT'S SHE DID AND, AND UH, WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN AND I TOLD HER WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH EARLIER. SO, AND THAT'S WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WAS GONNA HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE DO SO. RIGHT. AND SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE BRANDY, THAT IT WOULD BE 4% OR WHICHEVER'S HIGHER? YEAH. 'CAUSE WE DID NOTICE THAT SOME OF THEM, THE 4% WOULD BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS REQUESTED AND VICE VERSA. RIGHT. SO I DIDN'T, I DON'T WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE COLA WAS GONNA BE. YEAH. OKAY. SO QUESTIONS. TOMMY, YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE? YEAH. TOMMY, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER? YEAH. DON'T THINK WE ARE TRYING TO CUT HERE. WE'RE GONNA BE REAL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO, OUR BUDGET'S A LITTLE TIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER PLACE, I MEAN WHEN IT COMES TO NECESSITY, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE AN HONORABLE PERSON. SO IS THERE SOMEWHERE LIKE THE SHERIFF I KNOW ADJUSTED SOME STUFF FOR US EARLIER AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IS THERE SOMEWHERE YOU CAN ADJUST WHERE, I MEAN LIKE, LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN MAKE ONE MORE YEAR WITHOUT THIS TO HELP US IN THIS SITUATION. PLEASE. WE DID. WE, WE PRE-MADE THE ADJUSTMENT. I KNOW SHERIFF DID WHEN HE WENT FROM FOUR TO TWO. SO I WENT FROM TWO TO ONE. I JUST THINK IT'D BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO NOT GET THAT OTHER PERSON SINCE I BELIEVE THAT THAT, I MEAN EVERYBODY'S ROLE IS ESSENTIAL, BUT IF YOU CAN'T GET THE CASES IN THE SYSTEM, WE ACTUALLY NEED TWO PEOPLE. SO WE'RE STILL GONNA BE BEHIND, WE'RE GONNA BE AT 80 CASES DOWN PROBABLY ON AVERAGE INSTEAD OF 200. BUT YOU CANNOT HAVE 200 CASES WAITING TO GET ENTERED BECAUSE I MEAN, JUSTICE DELAYS, JUSTICE DENIED AND I MEAN, I'M RIGHT ON STATUTE OF LIMITATION ON SOME OF THESE CASES. SO NO, I CANNOT CUT THAT PERSON. THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT AN ADJUSTMENT. THEY, I, I'VE GOT MY OWN FUNDING SOURCES FROM OUTSIDE GRANTS. I'M JUST ASKING Y'ALL TO CARRY ME QUARTER TO QUARTER AND WE'LL REIMBURSE. I PROBABLY HAVE FIVE OR SIX GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS BECAUSE I, I HUSTLE FOR MONEY TO FILL MY SPOTS 'CAUSE THE COUNTY'S JUST IN THE SITUATION WE'RE IN. SO NO, THERE'S NO PLACE ELSE. SORRY. OKAY. NEXT IS COLLECTIONS. THAT'S JUST A STATUS CHANGE THERE. PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISION. ASK YOU FOR ONE NEW POSITION THERE. DEPUTY CLERK AT 44, 44 BASE. THEY'RE GOING TO SPLIT THAT THOUGH WITH THE DA DIVERSION FUND. AND THEN ACCOUNTING EXPENSES. ONLY HALF OF THAT OR CLOSE TO HALF, THAT'S $30,214. QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? CONSENSUS IS OKAY. YEP. MENTAL HEALTH, THAT'S JUST A PLACEHOLDER. SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE THE PAY ADJUSTMENTS GOING, UH, UH, THE STEP PAY GOING FROM 10 YEAR, UH, 12 YEARS DOWN TO 10 YEARS. YOU SEE THE PRICE OF THAT AND UH, HE HAS REMOVED THE, UH, FOUR DEPUTIES AND THE FOUR VEHICLES FROM THAT REQUEST. THANK YOU SHERIFF. SO ANY COMMENTS ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? EVERYBODY? OKAY. I AM JAIL EXPENSE. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IS STILL A STEP PAY ADJUSTMENT FROM 12 TO 10. [00:30:01] SAME WITH DISPATCH. HOWEVER, WE ARE PICKING UP TWO DISPATCH POSITIONS THAT'S BEING PAID BY THE CONTRACT AND ONE OF THOSE, YOU SEE THAT NUMBER TWO? UH, YOU CAN MARK THAT ONE OUT BECAUSE CONTRACT'S PICKING THAT UP. OKAY. OKAY. EVERYBODY GOT THAT? YES SIR. OKAY. OKAY. NOW THAT'S ON, THAT'S DONE. MOVING IT FROM 12 TO 10 ON THE STEP PROGRAMS. ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT GO FROM 12 TO 10. OKAY. I'M MISSING THE SHEET. HIGHWAY PATROL, NOTHING'S CHANGING THERE. THEY WANTED A NAME CHANGE THAT'S BEEN REMOVED ON STAGE AS IT WAS CONSTABLE TWO THREE. I'M, WELL, 1, 2, 3, 4, I'M SORRY. IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE HERE. THEY WANTED A NAME CHANGE THAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME. UH, SAME PAY AS ALL THE CLERKS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR LONGEVITY ON SOME. AND THEN WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH WITH THE COLA, UH, ELECTIONS. CAN I, CAN I COMMENT ON? YES. UH, ONE THING I DO WANNA SHARE THE CLERK'S THING'S BEEN A HOT TOPIC THIS YEAR, UH, AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THEN SOME OF THE STUFF, UH, JUDGE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, BUT THE CLERKS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CAN MADE THE COMMENT TO ME, ALL THE CLERKS ONLY MAKE THIS MUCH. AND IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, THE CLERK, IF SHE'S BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN GIVING 4% COLAS EVERY YEAR. IS THAT CORRECT? LAST THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, RIGHT? WELL THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE HERE THEY GOT FIVE. YEAH, FIVE. SO THEN FOUR AND THEN MAYBE THIS YEAR FOUR. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE OVER FIVE YEARS OR YOU'RE GOING 20% MORE THAN YOU WAS MAKING WHEN YOU STARTED HERE. AND THEN PLUS YOU GET THE FIVE YEAR, UH, BOOST AS WELL. THE STEP PAY ON THAT. SO, WELL FIVE YEARS , THE STATEMENT MADE ON TELEVISION THAT ALL THE CLERKS ONLY MAKE 44,000 IS NOT A CORRECT STATEMENT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. AND PLUS WE GIVE A 4% COAL EACH YEAR. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, I ASKED SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEIR NAMES. DO YOU GIVE YOUR EMPLOYEES 4% EVERY YEAR? AND THEY SAID NO. DO YOU GIVE FULL PAID INSURANCE? NO. SO IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT. I THINK WE'RE, WE REALLY TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THAT AREA. SO BY NO MEANS I WANT THE CLERKS TO THINK THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT, I DO IN THE FUTURE WANT TO SEE THAT WE PUT THEM PRIORITY IN ANOTHER, UH, BUDGET DEAL. I KNOW THIS YEAR WE'RE TIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, WE DO APPRECIATE 'EM. AND IT'S NOT THE STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE. THEY ONLY MAKE THAT MUCH. THAT WAS LIKE THE ONLY PAY. THERE'S CLERKS AT DIFFERENT RANGES BASED ON THE TIME THAT THEY'VE BEEN HERE, HOW MANY YEARS THEY'VE BEEN HERE. AND SO, WELL SOME ARE SUPERVISORS TOO. THEY'RE ALL LEVELS THERE. AND SO YEAH, THEY JUST NEED TO, THEY JUST NEED TO REALIZE AND LIKE OUR CONSTABLES NEED TO REALIZE THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND UH, JUST CHANGED THIS MORNING. SO IT'S TOTALLY CHANGED OUR BUDGET. SO, UH, THINGS THEY WERE PROMISED IS JUST CAN'T HAPPEN. OKAY. WE'LL ALWAYS WE VALUE EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAVE. I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY OFFER JANITOR TO WHOEVER. EVERYONE'S IMPORTANT AND THEY DO AN IMPORTANT JOB. YEAH. ELECTIONS. TANDY'S ALREADY TURNED BACK HOW MUCH? 180. 186,000. 186,000. SHE CUT HER BUDGET. UH, ANY QUESTIONS THERE YOU SEE ON SHE'S HERE. SO NOW'S THE TIME TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. UH, IT'S CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ON, ON THE CAR ALLOWANCE SIR? WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CUT WHERE WE CAN. SO JUST NO, YOU'RE GOOD. UM, I PROVIDED YOU GENTLEMEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET SECTION, COMPARABLE SIZED COUNTIES THAT HAVE THAT SAME BENEFIT. AND I DO USE MY PERSONAL CAR A LOT, A LOT. YOU CAN ASK BRANDY. I HAVE PUT IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS OVER 70,000 MILES ON MY PERSONAL VEHICLE. AND THAT DOESN'T MILEAGE, DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE WEAR AND TEAR ON YOUR TIRES OR A RIM THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN OTHER DEPARTMENTS DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SIMILAR TO OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL AS SMALLER COUNTIES THAN US HAVE THE SAME BENEFIT. IT'S GOT WE ALL GET A CAR ALLOWANCE. YEAH. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SMALLER ONES. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU TANDY. YOU'RE WELCOME. MERCHANT MANAGEMENT. AND WE CUT ONE POSITION THERE. AUDITOR HAS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE DISTRICT JUDGES. THEY'VE NOT HAD THEIR MEETING UNTIL THE 8TH OF AUGUST EIGHTH. [00:35:01] YES SIR. AND I'LL BE AT THAT MEETING ALSO. OKAY. SO, UH, COUNTY TREASURER ASKING FOR A PART-TIME HELP. UH, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT HE WAS TELLING US ON THE PART-TIME HELP, WHY HE NEEDED THAT? UM, HE HAS TWO PEOPLE CURRENTLY WORKING PART-TIME, BUT IN ORDER TO FUND THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR, HE USED SOME OF HIS OTHER OPERATIONAL, UM, LINE ITEMS TO MOVE INTO PART-TIME TO COVER THAT. UM, AND SO HE JUST NEEDS IT ACTUALLY FUNDED SO THAT HE COULD HAVE HIS OFFICE SUPPLIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT HE ACTUALLY NEEDS TO RUN THE OFFICE AS WELL. OKAY. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YOU NEED TO ASK CHUCK TO COME IN? MM-HMM. OKAY. UH, PET ADOPTION. THERE ARE CERTIFICATES FOR THOSE WHO CAN EUTHANIZE. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING TO DO THAT. I JUST HAD A CAP PUT DOWN. IT COST ME $238. CRAZY. I'M SORRY. YEAH. WELL, OKAY. UH, EXTENSION SERVICE LAST YEAR WE TOOK AWAY THEIR PARAPROFESSIONAL, THE PART-TIME POSITION. THEY'RE WANTING IT BACK. IT'S 20 TOTAL OF 27,000. ANY QUESTIONS THERE? NO. LAST YEAR HE WAS SAYING THEY NEEDED, BUT THEY, THEY HAD THAT POSITION BEFORE THEY DID. SO. OKAY. MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS, WE HAVE, UH, CLERK PAY, UH, WITH, WE BRING TO ALL THE OTHER CLERKS, WHICH WAS LESS THAN WHAT OUR PAYING AND OUR CLERKS, THE LEE CUSTODIAN. UH, IS THAT 41 TO 45 PLUS COLA OR ARE WE JUST GONNA DO THE 41 PLUS COLA? I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. OWN THE LEE CUSTO CUSTODIAN. WE HAVE FROM 41 TO 45 PLUS COLA. YES. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE LEAD CUSTODIAN RIGHT NOW IS MAKING THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER CUSTODIANS JUST WITH THE TITLE LEAD CUSTODIAN. OKAY. AND SO HE WANTED TO, THEY NEED CORRECT THAT? YES. KINDA LIKE WE DO OUR SUPERVISORS OR EXACTLY. OKAY. MM-HMM . I'LL BRING THEM TO CLERK PAY OR WELL DO WHAT I SAY. SO THEY, THEY'D BE COMING UP TO 44. SAME AS SAME AS A CLERK. SAME AS A CLERK. SO HIS CLERK RIGHT NOW, UM, DOES NOT MAKE THE BASE PAY OF 44. OH 44. UM, AND SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT CLERK UP TO WHERE SHE SHOULD BE. ALL THE OTHER CLERKS. YES. SHE'S CURRENTLY MAKING 40 WHEN SHE SHOULD BE AT 44. YEAH. BUT SHE'S OUR SO THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING THAT UP. PUT HER WHERE SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE. YEAH. SO THAT'S JUST A CORRECTION. UM, AND THEN THE LEAD CUSTODIAN IS KIND OF THE SAME THING. UM, CORRECTING THE PAY FROM 41,000 TO 45,000, UM, TO REFLECT THE, THE LEAD TITLE POSITION. MM-HMM . OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, NUMBER THREE. THERES UH, DIRECTOR, UH, 4% COLA THAT BE CASEY THE OFFICE MANAGER, WHICH IS KATIE. IS THAT RIGHT? OH, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THAT TITLE. THAT'S A, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE COME UP WITH THAT TITLE LAST YEAR. I GUESS, UH, SAY CHANGE IT TO SUPERVISOR. YEAH. AND THEN IT WAS SOMETHING SAID EQUAL WITH ANOTHER SUPERVISOR. OTHER DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR AT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. THE COURTHOUSE TO EQUAL THAT. YEAH. YEAH. SO MAKE THAT SUPERVISOR TITLE COMPARED IT TO ALL THE OTHER SUPERVISORS, WHICH THAT MONEY IS THERE, YOU CAN SEE. UH, BUT IT WAS LOWER. IF YOU SEE THE THIRD LINE THERE, LOWER TO THE BASE PAY OF SUPERVISOR, THAT'D BE THEM. PLUS THE COLA. YOU GOT ONE, TWO NEW CUSTODIAN POSITIONS. AND NUMBER SEVEN IS TO CHANGE THE TITLE FROM LONG LAWN TECH TO FIELD TECH BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO INTO THE DA'S AREA. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. TELL ME THAT AGAIN. THAT'S, I'M HEARING YOUR POLICY. WE'RE HAVING TO CHANGE YOUR NAME FROM LAWN TECH TO FIELD TECH BECAUSE THEY CAN BE CS COMPLIANT. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THEY GOTTA BE CGI THEY COMING IN. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL IT IS, IS A NAME CHANGE. MM-HMM . BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND DO STUFF. UH, SO THAT WAS NUMBER SEVEN AND NUMBER EIGHT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GOT A PAY ADJUSTMENT FOR THE OSS OFFICER [00:40:04] AND THEN A PAY ADJUSTMENT FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST. ANY QUESTIONS? THERES MONIQUE'S DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE MARSHAL, RECLASSIFICATION CLERK, THE INSPECTOR. 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOW QUALIFIED AND THEY NEED ADDITIONAL PERSON THAT'S BEEN PAID BY THE FIRE CODE. SO WHAT DOES IT COST US? STEP PAY, UH, 6,000 FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES WITH 10 YEARS OR MORE. THE SHOWGROUNDS, SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, AGRISCIENCE MONITOR DATA OR DID ALL THE BOOKINGS INSPECTED BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER. THERE'S AN EVENT THERE NO MATTER WHAT THE EVENT IS. SO WE WILL FIND SOMEONE UP IN THE MAINTENANCE AREA TO TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY. SO THEY'LL BE MAKING TRIPS OVER THERE, BACK AND FORTH TO MAKE SURE THINGS' WORKING. THAT'S JUST A $2,000 STIPEND, WHICH IS WELL, OKAY. I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. GO AHEAD. THE STIPENDS. I DON'T LIKE THEM A SUPPLEMENT THEN. HUH? I DON'T, I MEAN I DON'T LIKE THEM BECAUSE EVERY TIME SOMEBODY GETS A NEW JOB, IF YOU GET HIRED FOR A JOB AND IF YOU HAVE TIME IN YOUR EIGHT HOURS TO DO THIS JOB, THEN YOU'RE HERE ON THE CLOCK FOR TWO HOURS. I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IF YOU'RE NOT DOING IT WELL, BUT THERE, THEY'RE IN THE EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEN WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST MAKE THE JOB TITLE PAY THAT MUCH AND THAT THAT WAS PART OF THEIR DEAL. WELL WE CAN, IT'S NOT A SIPHON, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I JUST, I THINK ONE OF 'EM PAY, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T, JUST DON'T LIKE SIP THOUGH. RIGHT. DON'T ONE PAY BENEFITS ONE DON'T OR THEY GET ON THE STIPEND THAT DON'T GO ON THEIR BENEFITS CALCULATION, DOES IT? WE STILL HAVE TO PAY SOCIAL SECURITY WITHHOLDING EVERYTHING ON IT. YES. YES. THE ONLY THING IT DOESN'T AFFECT IS LONGEVITY. YOU PAY OVER PAYING LONGEVITY, YOU HAVE TO PAY IT. SO CASEY, WHO'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR OFFICE DOING THIS? MY ULTIMATE PART WOULD BE MY, UH, THE CLERK POSITION. UH, RIGHT NOW THE OFFICE MANAGERS DOING IT, SO, BUT ONCE WE GET IT, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF TRYING IT OUT THIS YEAR FIGURING OUT DIFFERENT PLANS. BUT THE ULTIMATE GOALS FOR THE, UH, OFFICE CLERK TO DO. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT OFF, BUT IT'S JUST GONNA MOVE UP IS ALL IT'S GOING TO DO. OKAY. CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? WHAT'S HAPPENING? WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM SHOW GROUND AND JUST MOVE IT UP TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND HE'S GONNA PICK A PERSON THAT THAT'S GONNA GO TO. OKAY. THE 2000. OKAY. IT'S JUST GONNA COME OUTTA THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET INSTEAD OF YES. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS, IT'S A PERMANENT JOB. SO IT'S NOT A SIPHON. YEAH, IT'S A PERMANENT JOB. IT'S A PERMANENT JOB. OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH IT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SOLID WASTE. WHAT DO WE GOT BOYS? WASTE SPOT WAS KIND OF HELD IN SPOT THERE FOR YOU WANT TO TELL THAT? WELL, GO AHEAD. YOU WELL JUST, I KNOW SHE WAS, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON, ON ARENA TO GET, WE GOT BIDS OUT. BIDS IN. YEAH. AND DEPENDING ON HOW THE COMPANY'S BID, WE'RE KIND OF DOING A PLACEHOLDER. THERE. MAY NOT EVEN USE IT, BUT IT'S JUST THERE FOR THAT. JUST IN CASE. OKAY. BUT THE DOC, YOU'LL THINK IT'LL INCREASE FROM WHAT Y'ALL BUDGETED? WELL WE HAD, SO PRIOR VERSIONS, WE HAD THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE TWO PART-TIME POSITIONS THERE. UM, BUT KNOWING THAT IT'S ALSO BUDGETED IN THE CONTRACT SIDE. ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, UM, WE DECIDED TO LOWER THIS AMOUNT TO JUST A $100 PLACEHOLDER. OKAY. AND SO WE HAVE THE MONEY THERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND WE CAN MOVE IT AS NEEDED. ALRIGHT. GOOD DEAL. WE GOT THE CONTRACTS REALLY NO CHANGE THERE. IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. UH, YOU SEE THAT REALLY NO CHANGES THERE. ROAD AND BRIDGE, THEY'RE ALL ASKING FOR 5% CALL INSTEAD OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE GETS. NO, BASICALLY WHAT THE, TO DEAL WITH THE ROAD AND BRIDGE IS THE ONE THING I WANTED TO DO. UH, BUT THIS YEAR THE FUNDING'S NOT GONNA BE THERE, IS WE WANTED TO RESTRUCTURE OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE CLASSIFICATIONS TO REFLECT ON OUR CDL DRIVERS. UH, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING C DRIVERS 59,000 A YEAR. UH, THE AVERAGE AROUND DALLAS, WE'LL NEVER MEET PRIVATE 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT PRIVATE, BUT THEY PAY AN AVERAGE, LIKE SAY TRASH TRUCK STARTS AVERAGE ABOUT 77,000 OVER THE ROAD. TRUCKERS MAKE ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED TO 121,000. SO WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING CDL DRIVERS. UH, A LOT OF 'EM SHOW UP. I INTERVIEWED SEVERAL OF 'EM LAST YEAR, UH, AND THEY SAID, OH, I'D LOVE TO COME WORK FOR YOU AND I DON'T MIND 'CAUSE I'D MAKE IT UP ON OVERTIME. I'M LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE OVERTIME SO I CAN'T COME WORK FOR YOU. SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO TRAIN IN-HOUSE FOR THAT. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE OUR PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPATIBLE TO RETAIN CDL DRIVERS AND TO ATTRACT THEM. SO I WAS TRYING TO MOVE THAT PERSONALLY TO [00:45:01] LIKE MAYBE 61,000 A YEAR. BUT WITH ALL THE NUMBERS, EVERYTHING IN PLACE, WE WE'RE, I WE'RE JUST PROBABLY GONNA DO THE COLA FOR EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD AND JUST DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT THIS YEAR FOR FUNDING PURPOSES. BUT TERRY, I'M FINE SKI. YEAH, NO, WE, LET'S DO THE COLA THE SAME. YEAH. AS WHATEVER WE DO. EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE IN THIS COUNTY, IT'D BE THE SAME. YOU OKAY, KELLY? YEAH. OKAY. I'M GONNA DO, UH, OTHER FUNDS DOWN HERE. CHILDREN SHELTER, COUNTY CLERK RECORDS MANAGEMENT, DISTRICT CLERK RECORDS MANAGEMENT, FIRE CODE FUND, NOT MUCH MONEY THERE. UH, SO THE, UH, TWO CLARK MANAGEMENT FUNDS, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS? WHICH ONE'S THAT? UH, F 42 AND 47. YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE THE BREAKDOWN, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE THE BREAKDOWN YET. OKAY. NOW THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE COLA. LAURA, YOU WANNA EXPLAIN THAT SO THEY'LL UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RECORD MANAGEMENT FUNDS. KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS AND YOU CAN HELP YOU EXPLAIN IT TOO. NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT SHE, HE WANTS YOU TO TELL ME WHAT THAT IS AND YEAH, HOW YOU'RE GONNA ALLOCATE IT ON THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT KNEE DEEP IN PAYMENTS. OH, DUAL TASKING. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WASN'T LISTENING TO US. . THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND FOR THE COUNTY AND DISTRICT CLERK ARE FUNDS THAT ARE COLLECTED WHEN ANYONE FILES A DOCUMENT, THE CLERK GETS A, A PORTION FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND RECORDS PRESERVATION. OR WHEN SOMEONE FILES A, UM, PAYS THEIR FINDING COURT COSTS, A PORTION OF THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY AND OR DISTRICT CLERK, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CASE. AND THOSE FUNDS ARE PUT INTO A SPECIAL ACCOUNT AND THEY CAN ONLY BE USED BY THE, THE CLERK WHO COLLECTED THEM WITH THE APPROVAL OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT. AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR USE OF THAT TO, UH, COVER THE RECORDS PRESERVATION DUTIES THAT ARE DONE IN THE OFFICE. AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT, I THINK, UM, ON THAT IS LIKE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 'EM, YOU BROKE IT DOWN. THE PACE IS 40,560 WITH FRINGE. AND SO IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT EVERYBODY THAT GETS IT EITHER EXPLAIN WHO GETS IT. SO THEY'LL UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UM, THE, THE DUTIES OR THE INFORM, I'M SORRY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE FUNCTIONS. IT WOULD NOT BE LIKE THE CHIEF DEPUTY OR THE SUPERVISORS. IT'S JUST THE CLERKS WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE PRESERVATION. SO IT'S NOT A BLANKET, IT'S IT'S IT'S BASED ON THE SKILLS AND THE THINGS THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO THAT THEY RECEIVE THAT MONEY. SO IT'S TIED TO WHAT THEY DO AND THE STATUTE ALLOWS FOR IT. OKAY. SO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. THE GUYS WANNA HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE MANAGEMENT? HOW MANY PEOPLE? TOM? I BELIEVE IN RHONDA'S OFFICE IT'S 14 AND MINUS 12. IF CBL GUYS WANNA DO SOME RECORD MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I BELIEVE TWO, IF YOU COULD COLLECT SOME FEES. 12. AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY CLERKS DO YOU HAVE? I HAVE, BORA HAS, UH, SHE'S UTILIZING IT FOR 12 PEOPLE. THAT'S ABOUT 20. NO, ABOUT SHE'S 5 27. I, I HAVE 17, BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDES, OH, ALL BUT FOUR PEOPLE GONNA GET IT. BASICALLY. YES. AND YOURSELF. AND THEN, YEAH, AND MYSELF. AND THEN RHONDA'S OFFICE. I I THINK SHE HAS MAYBE 17 ALSO. Y'ALL ARE VERY SIMILAR. AND SHE'S GOT 14 PEOPLE. AND YOU'RE GONNA GIVE YOURSELF A RAISE OUT OF IT TOO? NO, SIR. NO. OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOURSELF. NO, NO. HERING NO, NOT HER EXCLUDING. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS SAYING. OH, SHE HERSELF. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS. NO. EXCLUDING. AND HERE'S MY DEAL. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, UH, AND I KNOW WE'VE RUN IT THROUGH, I I WAS READING THE STATUTE, OF COURSE, I'D RATHER HAVE A LEGAL OPINION ON WHETHER THAT'S FITTING FOR US, IS WHAT WE ASKED FOR. SO YOU TWO ARE THE EXPERTS. SO WE ARE, IF WE CAN USE, HERE'S THE DEAL. DIFFERENT FUNDS ARE USED HERE, WHETHER IT'S IN DIFFERENT AREAS. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE AND IT'LL BENEFIT US, I'M OKAY WITH, SO, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS LEGAL IS THE QUESTION I HAD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE LAW. SO, OKAY. AND I'VE GIVEN THAT LEGAL [00:50:01] OPINION TO YOU ALL. I'VE GIVEN IT TO JUDGE ALLEN, JUDGE WILEY, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. AND ONE, ONE THING TO, TO REALIZE IN THE STATUTE, THEY CHANGED THE LANGUAGE THROUGH THE YEARS SO THAT NOW THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT, WHICH YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR, THE WORD IS PURPOSES FOR PURPOSES OF RECORDS OF MANAGEMENT AND DATA PRESERVATION. AND SO, SORRY, SORRY, MY BOOMING, MY BOOMING VOICE, YOU KNOW. BUT, UM, SO THE, THEY'VE CHANGED THE WORD AND THE STATUTE TO PURPOSES. AND I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS. AND SO FOR PURPOSES OF DATA OF RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND DATA PRESERVATION, IT'S A VERY, VERY BROAD, UM, STATUTE. AND THE, AND THE WORD PURPOSES IS SPECIFICALLY USED BECAUSE IT IS BROAD ENOUGH WHETHER IT'S SOMEONE ENTERING, WHETHER IT'S SOMEONE DOING ANY KIND OF VARIOUS FUNCTION, UM, THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT THE LIST SERVE SHOWS THAT IT'S, IT'S COMMONLY USED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTIES IN TEXAS. AND THE STATUTE I THINK IS VERY CLEAR THAT YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR THAT. IT'S NOT A RESTRICTIVE STATUTE IN ANY WAY, BUT THE TASKS ARE BROAD AND AND MOST CLERKS PROBABLY WOULD TOUCH IT IN SOME WAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT CLERK AND COUNTY CLERK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE, THE RECORD HOLDERS, RECORD KEEPERS FOR THE COUNTY. AND SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT FUND. IT'S AN IMPORTANT FEE AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT USE OF THAT MONEY. AND, AND I AGREE WITH KAREN, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE COMMISSIONER MOORE, THAT THINGS ARE LEGAL, BUT YOU ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A PRACTICE. AND SO LIKE KAUFMAN'S COUNTY'S NOT OUT THERE, THE FIRST ONE DOING, EVEN THOUGH WE THINK IT'S LEGAL. SO IT'S SOMETHING ALSO THAT'S BEING UTILIZED WITH OTHER COUNTIES IN THEIR CLERK'S OFFICE. AND MOREOVER, IF THE CLERKS DECIDE, THE ELECTED CLERKS DECIDE TO EXPAND THAT TO SUPERVISORS THAT TOUCH, AND IT'S WITHIN THE PURPOSES, IT WOULD BE TOTALLY LEGAL TO DO THAT. DO WE KNOW THAT, UH, DO WE KNOW OF ANOTHER COUNTY THAT'S ACTUALLY USING IT? THAT'S OUR SIZE. TH THERE ARE NUMEROUS COUNTIES THAT THAT USE IT JUST ASKED FOR. I DON'T, I COULD NOT TELL YOU. I COULD PROBABLY GUESS. I THINK ELLIS, I THINK ELLIS DOES, BUT THERE'S NUMEROUS COUNTIES THAT DO. I JUST DIDN'T BRING THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION. DO YOU, DO YOU WANT US TO GET THAT FOR YOU AND TELL YOU? WELL, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTIES THAT DO USE IT AND WELL, YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. WHO'S USING IT? AND, AND THEY USED IT FOR, IT'S A TRICK QUESTION. THEY HAD A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CLERK AND THEY USED IT. WHO IS IT PURPOSE TO, UH, RAINS COUNTY. OKAY, SO THERE'S RAINS COUNTY. YEAH, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY ACTUALLY USED IT FOR A PURPOSE TO HIRE A, A CLERK. OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION? COUNTY'S OUR SIZE. I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT THAT WAS SET UP FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GIVING RAISES. IT'S NOT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT CHANGES THE WORD THE PURPOSE, BUT PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, SHE PURPOSE, WELL, LORI, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THERE'S 12 PEOPLE IN THE TIME WE'VE BEEN HERE. YOU'VE CAN'T, CAN'T BELIEVE 12 PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ALLOWED TO TOUCH. I MEAN, SO YOU, IT'S ALMOST HER WHOLE DEPARTMENT. SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THAT SHE SHOULD USE IT FOR MORE PEOPLE. MAYBE MORE IS, IS YOU COULD TURN MONEY BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND WE COULD PAY CLERKS WITH IT INCORRECT. YOU CANNOT DO THAT. BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WELL, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT FEE. I MEAN THAT'S WHY THE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE OF IF THE FEES JUST GONNA KEEP BUILDING UP, THEN WE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL DEPARTMENT JUST KEEP GETTING RAISES OFF OF THIS FUND AND NOBODY ELSE GOING TO HAVE THAT. BUT THIS HAPPENS ALL THROUGHOUT WITH THE LEGISLATIVE. YOU NEED TO GO DOWN THERE AND TESTIFY BECAUSE PRETRIAL DIVERSION, ONLY REASON I CAN, IF YOU'LL SEE ON THE FIRST PAGE, ABLE TO ASSIST THE PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISION IS 'CAUSE I HAVE A PRETRIAL DIVERSION OFFICER OVER THERE. SO WE, THOSE FEES ARE TIED BY LEGISLATIVE, UH, PURPOSES. THAT'S NOT ARGUMENT, I'M JUST SAYING. BUT THEN ALSO THEY DESIGNATE US AS THE AUTHORITY TO SAY WHETHER SHE CAN DO IT OR NOT. WELL, A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. YEAH. AND YOU'RE, AND YOU THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT. I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A, IT MAKES, IT MAKES US, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE OTHER CLERKS SAY, WELL THOSE CLERKS MAKE THIS MUCH AND WE DON'T. I UNDERSTAND. AND THERE, AND I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE, I'M NOT SAYING ONE'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT EACH OF 'EM ARE HERE EIGHT HOURS A DAY. AND I DON'T CARE WHICH KIND OF PAPERS THEY'RE FILING OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY ARE GENERALLY ABOUT THE SAME SCALE OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND IT FEEL, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A BATTLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND, AND I DON'T MIND TAKING RESPONSIBILITY JUST LIKE ALL OF US DO. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. [00:55:01] UNLIKE MOST PEOPLE BE TREATED THE SAME. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AND I'M, AND I WANNA BE ABLE TO TREAT 'EM THE SAME. AND IF THEY ARE SPECIAL, I I WE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SPEAKING TO THAT. WE'RE ONLY SPEAKING TO THE LEGALITY AND THE STATUTE ALLOWS HER TO. JUST SAYING, I'M NOT UNDER THE BROAD ARGUE. I'M NOT, I'M NOT. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ARGUING WITH ME. I'M . I I AGREE ON THAT TOO. LIKE I SAID, AS LONG AS IT'S LEGAL WITH THAT, WE, I'M OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THAT OR I DON'T HAVE NO REJECTION TO IT. AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, IT'S LIKE THE RECORDS PRESERVATION MONEY IS FOR RECORDS PRESERVATION. AND THE ONE THING THAT'S, THAT SETS THE CLERKS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS. IT'S LIKE OUR RECORDS ARE PERMANENT. I MEAN, THOSE RECORDS GO BACK TO 1848. WHAT WE HAVE WILL BE HERE 170 YEARS FROM NOW. THE RECORDS FROM RIGHT NOW WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT COUNTY CLERK. AND OUR, WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON RECORDS PRESERVATION WITH COMPANIES. I MEAN, I CAN COME IN AND I CAN, I CAN WIPE OUT RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND RECORDS PRESERVATION MONEY IN ONE FELL SWOOP AT TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT. BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING OUR CLERKS TO DO IS DO LIKE BACK IMAGING, BACK INDEXING OF THE RECORDS SO THAT WE ARE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY WITH A RECORDS PRESERVATION COMPANY. AND ALSO THAT'S, I'M SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON AND JUDGE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UH, A RECORDS BUILDING JUDGE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UH, USING THE MONEY, THE RECORDS PRESERVATION MONEY TO COVER THE COST OF, OF USING THE SWAG, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS OVER IN THE COMMISSIONER'S, THE NEW COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY AS MUCH MORE USEFUL. WE COVER RIGHT NOW, UM, TWO PEOPLE I KNOW IN MY OFFICE, UNDER THAT FUND, WE ALSO COVER ALL OUR LAND RECORDS SOFTWARE. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF THAT FUND THAT, THAT IT'S NOT BEING USED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS, RATHER THAN SPEND THE MONEY WITH AN OUTSIDE VENDOR, IS, IS LET THE CLERKS USE IT TO PRESERVE THESE RECORDS FOR AN INDEFINITE, YOU KNOW, THAT I I I, IT'S LIKE THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE HERE. WHAT, WHAT TERM AM I LOOKING FOR? UM, PERPETUAL. HMM? PERPETUAL. PERPETUAL. YEAH. IN PERPETUITY. THERE'S NO OTHER OFFICE THAT HAS THAT REQUIREMENT. PERHAPS THAT'S WHY THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT FEE ALLOWS YOU, BECAUSE YOUR STATUTORY MANDATE AS THE COUNTY CLERK PUTS THAT HIGH MANDATE ON YOU TO KEEP RECORD KEEPING CONSENSUS TAB. TERRY FIRST. 1, 2, 3, 4. I GO 4, 3, 2, 1. KEITH. YEAH, I JUST WISH THAT THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THOSE OTHER PURPOSES IN THE WAY IT IS THE BUILDING, THE, THE MANAGEMENT, THE ROOMS, THE BILLING, AND WE BE CAREFUL AND NOT GIVE IT TO EVERY SINGLE CLERK IN YOUR OFFICE TO DO THAT. YOU SAID YOU HAVE TWO THAT BASICALLY DO THAT AND IT PAID OUTTA THAT FUND, RIGHT? I DID NOT COME, UH, I HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANY MORE PEOPLE SINCE WE CREATED COUNTY COURT AT LAW TWO. YEAH, BUT SEE TO ME, I, I MEAN, I'M JUST BEING HONEST. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT LEVEL AND TRYING TO KEEP US FROM HAVING ARGUMENTS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. MM-HMM . IS, IF YOU HAD ANOTHER RECORDS CLERK THAT THAT'S ALL THEY DID AND IT SPECIALIZED IN THEIR ACTUALLY BEING SKILLED AND TAUGHT OR TO DO THIS JOB AND THEY'RE PAID OUT OF IT. YOU SEE, I MEAN THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL. I MEAN, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T ANYTHING TO DO BECAUSE I'M GONNA TELL YOU, YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB, YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THE WAY I DO IT ABOUT YOU BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY PRESIDENT, BUT THAT IS YOUR JOB, SO, AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB AT IT. SO, I MEAN THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL. OKAY. COOL. GOOD. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. FIRE CODE. UH, THE CLERK IS NOW A, UH, INSPECTOR. HE'S PASSED ALL THE TESTS, [01:00:01] TRAINING AND EVERYTHING, SO THERE'S INCREASE THERE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO WHAT ELSE? SO WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE SCENARIOS. UM, THEY SHOULD BE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. UM, IF WE WANT TO PAUSE FOR A SECOND, TAKE A BREAK. LET'S TAKE A BREAK. YEAH, EVERYBODY, IF YOU NEED TO GO, UH, TAKE A BREAK. YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS, YOU GET YOUR MICS BACK ON. OKAY. TURN YOUR MIC ON. OKAY, WE'RE BACK ONCE AGAIN. WE HAVE NEW NUMBERS AGAIN. SO, UH, BRANDI, WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. OKAY, SO WE GAVE TWO SCENARIOS. UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS WE HAD TO INCREASE THE DEBT, THE I NS RATE, UM, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF SOME NEW DEBT AND JUST IN GENERAL. AND THEN THAT BURDEN HAS TO BE IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SAME OVERALL TAX RATE AS LAST YEAR, WE HAD TO SHIFT THAT BURDEN OVER TO M AND O AND ROAD AND BRIDGE. SO WE HAVE TWO SCENARIOS HERE. IF THE GENERAL FUND TOOK THE FULL ENTIRE BURDEN, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TAX RATES, THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE WOULD BE 0.2 7 5 8 6 1. SO IF YOU NOTICE, OH, ON THE SUMMARY, IF THE GENERAL FUND TOOK THE WHOLE ENTIRE BURDEN OF THAT TAX DEFICIT, IT, WE WOULD BE OVER BUDGET $727,000, $196. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER CUT THAT MUCH FROM THE BUDGET TO MAKE A BALANCED BUDGET OR, UM, PULL FROM CONTINGENCY OR FUND BALANCE TO COVER THAT. SO, AND THEN ROAD AND BRIDGE WOULD GET THE 2.5 IN MILLION INCREASE. IF WE GO OVER TO THE OTHER OPTION WHERE THE GENERAL FUND AND THE ROAD AND BRIDGE SPLIT THAT DEFICIT, THE SAME AMOUNT, 50 50, THEN THAT PUTS THE GENERAL FUND SUMMARY AT OVER BUDGET 197,552. UM, AND THEN IT GIVES THE ROAD AND BRIDGE 2,009,000 TO WORK WITH. SO I BELIEVE THAT US SPLITTING THE BURDEN EQUALLY, WE CAN COVER THAT AMOUNT. UM, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND UM, SEE WHERE WE CAN PULL SOME MORE STUFF FROM AND WE CAN MAKE IT WORK TO COVER THAT FOR THE GENERAL FUND. WELL, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I MEAN, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO TOUCH THE TAX RATE THAT'S MM-HMM . THAT'S NOT EVEN, THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. YEAH. MM-HMM . SO WE HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN WHAT WE HAVE. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF EMPLOYEES, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS TOO AND PROVIDE THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. MM-HMM . AND SO WHAT, IT'S ALWAYS A COMPROMISE AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD ONE. MM-HMM . WE CAN WORK WITH, UH, AND AS WE FINE TUNE THE BUDGET MORE MM-HMM . WE CAN COME UP WITH THE, THE ZERO THERE. YES. OKAY. I FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN DO THAT AND HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET AT THE END BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET. WE WILL HAVE, YES, WE WILL HAVE. OKAY. NO OPTION THERE, . OKAY. SO, UH, GIVE US OUR NEXT DATES. YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDAR THERE. I DO WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT, I DIDN'T BRING MINE. SO THE LETTERS WILL GO OUT TODAY FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS? YES. THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW. TODAY'S THE DROP DEAD DAY. MM-HMM . I THINK IT'S EITHER TODAY OR TOMORROW. UM, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY FINALIZING TODAY. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ON AUGUST 5TH, WE PLAN TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND ON AUGUST 26TH WE PLAN TO ADOPT THE FINAL BUDGET. YEP. SO BETWEEN NOW AND THAT'S NEXT WEEK. MM-HMM . BE LOOKING, YOU FIND NUMBERS, FIND SOMETHING. AND WE'RE GONNA COMB THROUGH THIS AGAIN. LET'S SEE ALL WE CAN COME UP WITH, OKAY? MM-HMM . AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. SO THE ADOPTED WILL BE ON AUGUST 5TH. YEAH. AND THEN THE, I MEAN, YEAH. PROPOSED WILL BE AUGUST 5TH, ADOPTED 26TH. OKAY. I THINK WE'VE HELPED OUR EMPLOYEES BY PICKING UP THEIR, INCREASING THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. WE KEPT THE SAME DEDUCTIBLES, WHICH [01:05:01] HELPS OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, IT'LL HELP US RETAIN THEM BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE. AND, UH, WHOEVER THEY WORK FOR PICKS UP A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT. PLUS OUR RETIREMENT IS REALLY GOOD. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST THERE IS. SO IT'S A LOT OF PLUSES WORKING FOR THE COUNTY. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE HERE TODAY AND ESPECIALLY THE ALTER AND THEIR STAFF. UH, IT'S A LOT OF WORK. OH MY GOODNESS. THEY PROBABLY HAVE COUNSELORS ON THEIR FINGERTIPS. AND JUDGE, LIKE YOU SAID, I TALKED TO THE COUNTY'S DEPARTMENT. I'VE WORKED IN DALLAS COUNTY 10 YEARS, AND THEY DON'T MATCH AS MUCH. EVERY COUNTY'S DIFFERENT. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN RETIRE IN OTHER COUNTIES, BUT EVERY COUNTY'S DIFFERENT. COUNTY RETIREMENT. I THINK SO. DALLAS. YEAH. BUT IT'S STILL A GREAT PLACE TO WORK. IT REALLY IS. LOTS, LOTS OF GOOD EMPLOYEES. OKAY. ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS? NOT ANY [14. Adjourn Meeting.] MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. BOARD MAKES A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK Y'ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.