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[Call to Order]

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I GOT IT.

THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH 9:00 AM WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER CAGE TO LEAD US IN INVOCATION AND COMMISSIONER HUNT THE LATEST AND THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAND RIGHT WITH ME, YOUR LORD.

THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT WE ENJOY HERE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY AND OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTY.

I PRAY THAT YOU'D LEAD US AND GUIDE US MAKING GOOD DECISIONS, USING GOOD WISDOM FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY AND ALL OF THE MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE US TODAY.

ONCE AGAIN, LORD, THANK YOU FOR IT.

MANY VETERANS THAT WE HONORED YESTERDAY.

THANK YOU FOR SO MANY BLESSINGS.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

NO, MA'AM.

FLAG ONE NICE GIRL ON THE TEXAS WAY.

LINE, STATE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL.

WELCOME TO EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE THIS MORNING.

EVERYBODY BRAVE IN THAT I SEE COLD WEATHER.

UH, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS TO HEAR, UH, COMMENTS FROM VISITORS.

UH, MR. WEAVER, I THINK YOU MIGHT, IF YOU ARE YOU DO YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS? IF YOU DO, WHY DON'T WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THEN YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS THEN.

WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

WELL JUST TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.

JIMMY WEAVER.

I'M THE, UH, CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY.

UH, THE ONLY THING I NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OPENING THE PARTY OFFICE FOR ANYBODY MAKING APPLICATIONS FOR ELECTION.

AND UH, ONE SPECIAL NOTE, WE DID HAVE ONE THING ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND THAT'S TO DECLARE A CALL FROM THE COUNTY AS A SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY COUNTY.

I THINK IN LIGHT OF ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH PUBLICLY IN THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE JUST NEED TO GIVE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE CAN TO OUR, UH, STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THIS IS A, THIS IS NOT A BILL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST MORE OF A SOLIDARITY TO SUPPORT OUR STATE LEADERS WILL MAKE IT CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT OF THE PROPOSITION IS ABOUT.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I DON'T HAVE CARDS FROM ANYBODY THAT'S, UH, INDICATED LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT.

UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. A. Invitation to attend the Kaufman County Master Gardeners Award Dinner on Monday, December 2,2019 @ 6:30 p.m. at the Porch at the First Baptist Church, 2000 West Fair Street, Kaufman. B. Free Electronics Recycling for Kaufman County Residents November 23,2019 from 9:00 a.m. 1:00 p.m. ]

TO ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

UH, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

ONE IS AN INVITATION TO ATTEND THE COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS AWARD DINNER.

THAT'S MONDAY, DECEMBER 2ND AT SIX 30 AT THE PORT, AT THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, UH, HERE IN COFFIN.

AND THEN THERE'S, UH, WE HAVE A FREE RECYCLING, UH, ELECTRONICS RECYCLING FOR COFFIN COUNTY RESIDENTS ON NOVEMBER THE 23RD FROM NINE TO ONE.

AND UH, THAT WILL BE OUT AT THE, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS.

UM, LOOKING TO VERIFY THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

YES.

YES.

IT WILL BE OUT AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND IT'S ELECTRONIC.

SO ELECTRONICS ONLY, UH, DOES ANYBODY OTHER, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? OKAY.

THEN YOU SEE BEFORE YOU NEXT ON THE AGENDA,

[Consent Agenda]

THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS A THROUGH E.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT UH, ANYONE WOULD CARE TO BRING OFF AND DISCUSS AS INDIVIDUAL ITEMS OR DO YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT OR DO YOU WANT TO, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? IS PRINCES PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WHERE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER HUNTER APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED AS OUR SECOND SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[3. Brenda Samples; Discuss/Consider approving deputations of Courtney Akin and Bianca Antuna for the Tax Assessor-Collector's office. ]

ITEM THREE.

NEXT STEP IS BRENDA'S SAMPLES.

SIR, WHERE DOES NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS MORNING? BUT SHE ASKED IF I WOULD PRESENT THIS ITEM FOR YOU GUYS, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

SO MS SAMPLE IS LOOKING TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL DEPUTATIONS TO OUR OFFICE, COURTNEY AIKEN, WHO WILL BE A PART OF THE TERRELL OFFICE AS WELL AS BIANCA TUNA, WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN THE, SHE'S GOING TO BE IN THE KAUFFMAN OFFICE.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER PERSON, UM, WHAT WE KNOW OTHERWISE, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE THOSE

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DEPUTATIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS IS YOUR EMOTION REGARDING THE DEPUTIZATION OF THOSE OF COURTNEY AKIN AND BIANCA AND TUNA.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[4. - Laura Hughes; Discuss/Consider approving deputations of Tera Jernigan and Jacklyn Salazar for the Kaufman County Clerk's office. ]

ADAM FOR OUR COUNTY COURT.

LAURA HUGHES DISCUSS CONSIDER RECRUITING DEPUTIZATION OF TERROR OR NAGIN AND JACQUELYN SALAZAR FOR THE COUNTY FOR COFFIN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

BAM.

WE'RE ADDING TWO PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

ONE WILL WORK IN THE LAND VITALS AREA AND THE OTHER WILL WORK IN THE COURTS.

I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D APPROVE THEIR DEPUTATION.

NO.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE DEPUTIZATION OF TARA JERNIGAN AND JACQUELINE? SALLY SALAZAR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAD THAT MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, BARBERS OR SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER AND CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE POSTS.

NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[5. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider reappointing Janas Byrnes and Mike Holley to the Kaufman County Children's Shelter Board for a 3 year term. ]

ITEM FIVE PAM QUARTER MACHINE HERE YET.

DON'T THERE? UM, I'LL CARRY THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE'S NOT IN HERE YET.

BUT, UM, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS TO, UH, CONSIDER REAPPOINTING JANICE BURNS, UH, TO THE COFFIN COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND MIKE HOLLY TO THE COFFIN, COFFIN COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTER BOARD.

I'M SORRY FOR OTHER THREE YEAR TERM AND I'LL PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF, UH, UH, IS THERE ANY COORDINATED QUESTIONS OF ME ON THAT? I'LL PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Mary Westbrook; Discuss/Consider approving reinstatement of lost vacation hours for Vanessa Brooks in Pet. 4 Constable's office.]

ITEM SIX.

GOOD MORNING.

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPROVING REINSTATEMENT OF LAS VACATION HOURS FOR VANESSA BROOKS AND THE PRECINCT FOR CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

YES SIR.

DOES ANYONE NEED A HARD COPY? YES, WE DIDN'T HAVE COPIES.

MARY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, I HAVE TALKED TO THE ADHS, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS.

VANESSA BROOKS HAD, UM, APPROACHED ME IN REGARDS TO LOSING SOME OF HER VACATION TIME AS WE KNOW, UM, WITH THE DEATH OF CONSTABLE JONES.

SHE WASN'T MADE IN HER HOME.

SHE WAS JUST DOING HER DUTIES AND HIS DUTIES AT THE SAME TIME.

SO SHE'S NOT EXEMPT.

UM, SHE'S GAINING HOURS AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO USE THEM.

SO, UM, I THINK, AND THE ADA, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT GESTURE TO REINSTATE HER.

UM, SHE LOST 108 HOURS.

40 HOURS WOULD BE A REINSTATED BASED ON HER DOING HER OWN WORK, UM, AND THE WORK OF AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE.

AND THEN 68 HOURS ALSO COULD BE REINSTATED BASED ON THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

UM, IN OUR HANDBOOK AS IT STATES UP PUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, THE PERSONNEL POLICY, IF AN EMPLOYEE DOES NOT HAVE TIME TO USE THEIR VACATION TIME, THEIR SUPERVISOR CAN WRITE A LETTER TO US TO ALLOW THEM 90 DAYS OR 60 DAYS AFTER, UM, THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE TO TRY TO USE THOSE.

SHE PROBABLY WON'T USE THOSE.

SHE ASKED, SHE WAS FRUSTRATED.

SHE DIDN'T EVEN WANT ME TO DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

AND I'M LIKE, NO, IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT GESTURE TO DO.

SO I'M HERE TO ASK FOR US TO REINSTATE THE 108 HOURS.

I'M 68, OF WHICH FOR HER TO TRY TO USE A DECEMBER 1ST AND AT LEAST 40 UNTIL HER NEXT ANNIVERSARY DATE, ANY QUESTIONS? NO LIMITS IS THE FAULT.

THAT IS THE THOUGHT THAT IF SHE DOESN'T USE THE 60 ADMISSION AND YOU USE ALL THOSE 68 ABOUT A DECEMBER 1ST, THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT.

YES SIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S PER THE POLICY.

OKAY.

AND, UH, SINCE VANESSA HAS ASSUMED THE DUTIES OF CHIEF DEPUTY, SHE HAS REALLY STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE DOWN THERE AND, AND UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE BEEN SHORTHANDED, UH, SINCE THE PASSING OF OUR FORMER CONSTABLE.

SO I, UH, I ALSO ENCOURAGE THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION TO BE APPROVED.

YOU CARE TO

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PUT THAT IN A MOTION, SIR? I WOULD, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE REINSTATING, UH, THE LOST VACATION HOURS, POTENTIAL LOSS VACATION HOURS FOR CHIEF DEPUTY CONSTABLE VANESSA BROOKS.

WE DID THAT.

MOTION IS HER SECOND, UH, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY,

[7. Chuck Mohnkern; Discuss/Consider authorizing the use of payment cards in place of checks for payroll for those not participating in direct deposit. ]

NEXT ITEM, UH, ITEM SEVEN, OUR TREASURE CHIPMUNK ON DISCUSS.

CONSIDER AUTHORIZING USE OF PAYMENT CARDS IN PLACE OF CHECKS FOR PAYROLL FOR THOSE NOT PARTICIPATING IN DIRECT DEPOSIT.

GOOD MORNING SIR.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I WAS ASKED A FEW MONTHS BACK TO, UH, LOOK INTO A POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR COMING UP WITH A NON CHECK SOLUTION, UH, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T PARTICIPATE IN DIRECT DEPOSIT.

AND I LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ONES.

COURT FUNDS HAD ONE.

AND ALSO AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, UH, OFFERS A, A PAYMENT CARD, WHICH IS BASICALLY A DEBIT CARD WHICH CAN BE CHARGED WITH THE, UH, EMPLOYEES SALARY.

AND THEN THEY CAN, UH, USE THAT CARD AS A DEBIT CARD JUST AS YOU DO IF YOU HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT AND UH, TO MAKE PURCHASES OR THEY CAN GO TO THE BANK, CASH THAT CARD IN, BASICALLY TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF IT AND, AND LEAVE WITH THE CASH.

THE, UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANKS PLAN, UH, UH, FUNCTIONALLY IS, IS BETTER THAN THE COURT FUNDS AS A COURT FUNDS REQUIRED THAT WE UPLOAD A FILE TO THEM IN ORDER TO LOAD THE CARDS.

UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANKS JUST SENDS, UH, UH, ROUTING NUMBERS AND ACCOUNT NUMBERS FOR EACH EMPLOYEE.

AND SO WE ENTER THOSE INTO STW AS WE WOULD ANY OTHER DIRECT DEPOSIT AND IT'S JUST TAKEN CARE OF AS WE DO THE PAYROLL.

SO IT WOULD BE AN EASIER PLAN TO IMPLEMENT.

IT WOULD DO AWAY WITH MOST CHECKS WE'D STILL HAVE SOME CHECKS IS WE GET NEW EMPLOYEES.

THEIR FIRST PAYCHECK IS GOING TO BE A PAPER CHECK AND A, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND THAT.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S BASICALLY THE PLAN.

IF I SENT OUT SOME INFORMATION ON THAT OR A LAST WEEK BEFORE I LEFT FOR UH, HOUSTON AND JUST WONDER IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

UH, IT'S A MORE, IT UH, IT'S A MORE SECURE THING THAN A CHECK YOU THINK IT IS.

THE, UH, THE MONEY IS ON THE CARD JUST AS ANY MASTERCARD VISA.

AND SO EVEN IF THEIR CARD IS LOST OR STOLEN OR THERE'S FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY, IF YOU JUST LIKE, UH, ANY OTHER MASTERCARD OR VISA, THE, UH, THE MONEY IS GUARANTEED.

THEY CAN GET THEIR MONEY BACK OR MOST OF IT ANYWAY, AS LONG AS THEY HAVEN'T SHARED THEIR PIN AND SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE USING THEIR PEN AS THE, UH, AS THE MEANS OF PULLING THE MONEY OFF OF THE CARD.

BUT, UH, YEAH, IT IS MORE SECURE.

IF THEY LOSE THEIR CARD, THEY CAN GET A FREE REPLACEMENT, ONE FREE REPLACEMENT EVERY YEAR.

SO IF THEY MAKE IT A HABIT, UH, WE CAN STILL PROVIDE THEM A FREE REPLACEMENT.

EVERY YEAR THE CARDS WOULD BE ISSUED ACTUALLY A TEMPORARY CARD TO BEGIN WITH.

AFTER THREE PAYROLL PERIODS, THEY WOULD BE ISSUED A PERMANENT EMBOSSED CARD.

AND IF THEY LOSE THAT CARD, THEY COME BACK TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

WE GIVE THEM ANOTHER TEMPORARY CARD, AND THEN THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THEIR ACCOUNT.

AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS, THREE CYCLES.

THEY GET A, THEY GET A NEW, UH, IN BOSTON CARD AND IT WOULD BE NO CHARGE TO THEM AS LONG AS THEY DON'T LOSE MORE THAN ONE CARD, ANY IN A CALENDAR YEAR, THE COST, IF THEY LOSE MORE THAN ONE, NOT MUCH.

IT'S NOT MUCH.

I THINK IT WAS, UH, I HAD THAT FIGURE, UH, EARLIER, I DON'T REMEMBER IT NOW, BUT IT WAS, UH, AROUND $5.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU TOLD ME IT WAS $5.

I MEAN, THAT'S A REASONABLE THING.

YEAH.

HOW MANY, HOW MANY PAYROLL PAPER CHECKS ARE Y'ALL, ARE YOU CURRENTLY THE LAST PAYROLL THERE WERE 41.

SO WE'VE REALLY GOTTEN IT DOWN TO NOT TOO MANY NOW.

WE WERE RUNNING HIGHER THAN, QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.

IT'S, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DWINDLE IT DOWN, UH, THROUGH GETTING MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR DIRECT DEPOSIT.

SO, SO I GUESS IF, IF, IF AN EMPLOYEE, SO CHOOSES TO GET A PAPER CHECK, THEY CAN REQUIRE, I CAN REQUEST A PAPER CHECK OR DO WE HAVE THE PAID THE WAY WE WANT TO PAY YOU OR THEY HAVE RIGHT TO SAY, I WANT A PAPER CHECK.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY WE'RE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I'M ASKING DO THEY HAVE A RIDE? I MEAN, OR DO WE JUST

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SELL THEM A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, I MEAN, I'M PROBABLY PUMPED IN PR AND PRIVATE BUSINESS OR I WOULD SAY PARTICULARLY LARGER COMPANIES, THEY DON'T WRITE CHECKS.

IT'S, IT'S FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DON'T EITHER GET A DEBIT CARD OR THEY, OR THEY HAVE A DIRECT DEPOSIT INTO YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT.

I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY COMMON.

I UNDERSTAND THIS, THE TREND, BUT THAT'S NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

HE SAID LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SAYS THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND THE COUNTY TREASURE WITH THE AGREEMENT OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT CAN GO TO DIRECT DEPOSIT.

OKAY.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

ANY AUDIT AUDIT DEPARTMENT CONCERNS OR ANYTHING? NO, CAUSE WE AUDIT PAYROLL.

YEAH.

IT'S REALLY THE SAME.

AND THEN I MEAN TO YOU, YES, IT'S THE SAME THING.

AND THIS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, SINCE IT'S OUR DEPOSITORY BANK HAS AGREED THAT THEY WOULDN'T CHARGE THE EMPLOYEE LIKE THAT, THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT.

AND YOU CAN GET THE CARD AND USE IT FOR ANYTHING YOU NEED.

YEAH.

THERE'LL BE NO FEE IF THE, IF THE EMPLOYEE ALSO WANTS TO GO, UH, TO THE BANK.

IT'S JUST LIKE NOW IF THEY CAN GET A CHECK AND THEY GO TO THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND CASH IT, THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THEIR DEBIT CARD.

NOW THEY CAN TAKE IT TO THE TELLER AND BASICALLY CASH THAT CARD IN FOR WHATEVER BALANCE IS ON THE CARD.

SO THEY CAN STILL LEAVE CASH BALANCE IF THEY WANT.

THEY CAN.

YES.

YEAH.

NO, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYBODY ELSE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN COLLECT THEIR WHOLE PAYCHECK.

RIGHT.

THERE IS NO COSTCO.

EXACTLY.

LIQUOR STORE, A GROCERY STORE IN CASH OR CHECK THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM MONEY.

YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE THEM ANYWHERE FROM LIKE FOUR TO $8.

THERE WAS CONVERSATION AND ONE OF OUR, SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO IS GO CASH YOUR CHECK.

CAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF A SOCIAL VISIT TO THE BANK.

AND UH, I THINK CHUCK TOLD SAID, WELL YOU SHOULD GO CASH YOUR CREDIT CARD.

AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN DO IT MULTIPLE TIMES, YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE SOCIAL EVENT.

EXACTLY.

SO, UH, THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

YOU GO WITH THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANKS PLAN FOR THE CARDS.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, OBSERVER, EMOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF PAYMENT CARDS IN PLACE OF CHECKS FOR PAYROLL FOR THOSE NOT PARTICIPATING IN DIRECT DEPOSIT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER.

KATE'S, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND OF COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

UH, WHAT'S THE EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE IN JANUARY.

THEY STILL CAN MAKE IT IN JANUARY IF WE GET TO THE BANK RIGHT AWAY HERE.

OKAY.

SO DID YOU GET THE VOTE COUNT? OKAY.

UH, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8. Chelsea Endicott; Discuss/ Consider motion to approve final plat for Busby Addition. ]

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT, CHELSEA ENDICOTT.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT FOR BUSBY EDITION.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS THIS MORNING? OKAY, SO THIS IS A FINAL PLOT FOR BUSBY SUBDIVISION.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION WILL BE LOCATED IN PRECINCT FOUR.

UM, IT WILL CONSIST OF A DIVISION OF TWO LOTS.

THESE LOTS WILL BE 1.3 ACRES EACH.

UM, ALL OF THE NECESSARY APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE LOOKED AT IT.

SO TVC AND WEST CEDAR CREEK FOR UTILITIES, THEY GAVE A LETTER SAYING THAT THEY'D BE GOOD TO PROVIDE THOSE FOR THOSE TWO LOTS.

UM, OUR OFFICE ISSUED OSF, OH, EXCUSE ME.

OOH.

O S S F N FLOOD PLAIN.

UM, JUST SAYING THAT IT'S GOOD TO GO.

THE PA HAS RECEIVED THE ENGINEER APPROVAL.

UM, AND THAT THE ONLY THING IS LEFT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO PRESENT THE PLAN AS PRESENTED.

IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER THAT AS WELL.

OF QUESTIONS.

LET ME SURE.

NO, I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAN FOR BUSBY ADDITION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER BORROWER DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

ALL OR EVEN ONE THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

I CAN'T WRITE AND TALK AT THE SAME TIME.

OBVIOUSLY

[9. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider approving Resolution for night vision goggles for the Kaufman County SWAT Team through Homeland Security Grant Funding.]

ADAM NINE SHERIFF BEAVERS DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION FOR NIGHT VISION GOGGLES FOR THE COFFIN COUNTY SCHWAB TEAM THROUGH HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT FUNDING.

YES.

TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED, BUT I THINK THEY HAD CHANGED SOME WORDING AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR TO

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BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

WHAT WAS THE WORDING CHANGE? I DON'T KNOW SIR.

I CAN CHECK WITH SHERIFF.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN PASSED ON YOU GUYS.

YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.

THEN I THINK I JUST SAID CHANGE.

DO YOU REMEMBER ANABEL? IT WAS WHAT? SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE RESOLUTION? I THINK YOU TOLD ME ABOUT IT, BUT I FORGOT WHAT YOU TOLD ME.

WHO SAID IT WAS MINOR.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

WILL YOU RECEIVE IT AND THEN THE GRANT DOESN'T WORK? WE'LL STILL PAY FOR THEM, RIGHT? ACTUALLY, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST ACCEPTING MONEY, SO I GUESS IT'S NOT, IT'S A HARD DECISION.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER AND KATE'S, UH, TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO SECOND SEVERAL COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I'M SUPPOSE NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[10. Sheriff Beavers; Present/Accept the Kaufman County Sheriffs office monthly report.]

ITEM 10 AGAIN TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PRESENT EXCEPT KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S MONTHLY REPORT AND FORWARD TO SEPTEMBER REPORT, A TOTAL OF $33,062 16 CENTS WAS BROUGHT IN ON THE FINANCIAL ON THE MONTHLY, THE OTHER REPORT ON STANCE, IT'S YEAR TO DATE.

WE'VE GONE UP ABOUT A THOUSAND CALLS FOR INSTANCE, REPORTS FOR DEPUTIES, UH, REPORTS FORWARDED.

CID WENT UP ABOUT 700 YEAR TO DATE.

UM, AND THEN THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WENT UP FROM LAST YEAR WAS 60,000.

UM, YEAR TO DATE.

IT'S 86 TO 23 NOW.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTIES GROW WHEN CALLS COME IN.

UM, ONLY ARREST OR UP TO 11 FROM THIS YEAR ON, UM, NARCOTICS AND UM, CANINE DIVISION OR 75 UP ON THE CALLS ON THAT ARRESTING.

IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS PRE REPORT IS PRESENTED? MOTION WHETHER THE MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT IS OUR SECOND SEGMENT.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM

[11. Robert Hunter; Present/Accept the Veterans Services Quarterly Report for 4th Quarter]

11.

THANK YOU.

ITEM 11, ROBERT HUNTER PRESENT EXCEPT VETERAN SERVICES QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER.

MR. HUNTER PUT ON A VERY GOOD PROGRAM, UH, YESTERDAY AND THE UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

THE WEATHER WAS A LITTLE WHO MADE THE WHITE WEATHER WAS A LITTLE CRANKY, BUT THE RIGHT WEATHER.

YES, YES HE DID.

WE WALKED OUT OF THERE, BUT AT THE TIME WE WALKED OUT OF THERE, IT WENT, I WAS LOOKING AT MY TRUCK AND THE TEMPERATURE WENT FROM 67 TO 50 DEGREES.

THE WIND HAD JUST STARTED BLOWING.

HE WALKED OUT AND IT STARTED RAINING AND IT WENT FROM 67 TO 50 IN LIKE THREE OR FOUR MINUTES.

CRAZY.

YEAH.

WHEN WE STARTED THAT CEREMONY, I WAS A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT WORRIED THAT I'D MADE THE WRONG DECISION TO MOVE IT INSIDE.

SO WHEN WE FINISHED THE CEREMONY, I WAS REALLY GLAD INSIDE.

SO I SUBMITTED THE REPORT, UM, WITH MY APPLICATION TO APPEARS OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? OUR NUMBERS ARE STILL UP.

UM, WE'RE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR A QUARTERLY STANDPOINT FROM LAST QUARTER, BUT OUR NUMBERS FOR THE YEAR, UH, SINCE THIS WAS THE FOURTH REPORT QUARTER, OUR NUMBERS FOR THE YEAR ARE ACTUALLY UP OVER LAST YEAR.

SO WE STILL CONTINUE TO SEE GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF VETERANS USING THE OFFICE.

AND, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

UM, AS MUCH AS I'M OUT THERE.

AND AS MUCH AS I'M, I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE, I STILL GET VETERANS THAT THEY'RE NOT AWARE THAT WE HAVE THIS, THIS OFFICE.

UM, UH, MR. DEAN HAS MADE SURE THAT THE WEBSITE IS VERY, YOU KNOW, VOCAL ABOUT IT.

SO, UH, I GOT SPOTS IN EACH ONE OF THE PRECINCTS, YOU KNOW, WITH BUSINESS CARDS, UH, AND IDENTIFYING IT.

AND, UM, I WENT TO, LET'S SEE, SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE DID FOR THIS YEAR OR FOR DURING THIS QUARTER.

WE DID, UH, I WENT TO THE TRAIL OF TREATS.

I PARTNERED WITH THE VA, UH, THE VA REP FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, GOT WITH ME AND WE DECIDED THAT WE'D GO OUT TO THE TRAIL OF TREATS THAT THEY DID.

THEY'RE IN FORNEY.

AND SO WE WERE OUT THERE ALL DAY PASSING OUT CANDY AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME INTRODUCING OURSELVES TO A LOT OF THE PARENTS WHO HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WERE HERE.

SO, UM, ALREADY I'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS JUST JUST FROM THE COMMUNICATION THAT THAT'S DONE.

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UM, SOME OTHER THINGS, TERRELL STATE HAS, UM, A NEW VETERANS WING.

AND SO, UM, I LAST YEAR WENT OUT THERE AND DID THEIR HEALTH FAIR AND I DID IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

WE TOOK FIRST PLACE BY THE WAY, SO THAT WAS KIND OF NICE FOR THE BOOT DECORATION.

UM, AND THEN AS A RESULT OF THEIR NEW WING THIS FRIDAY, I'M GOING TO GO AND SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY, UM, AT TERRELL STATE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO DD TWO 14 APPLICATIONS ON EVERY PERSON, UM, THAT THEY HAVE LISTED AS A VETERAN.

UH, TWOFOLD.

ONE, IT'S GOING TO HELP SECURE, YOU KNOW, THEIR BENEFITS AND IN ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE VETERANS ON THE WING.

UM, BUT THEN ALSO IN THAT PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT, YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW.

THEY HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THE PERSON IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE SAYS I'M IN THE MILITARY OR SHE SAYS I WAS RETIRED, YOU KNOW, THIS, THEY KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.

UM, AND THEY HAVE 'EM ON A WING WITH VETERANS.

WHEN I WENT THERE, I SAID, HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY'RE VETERANS? SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE ON THE WARD IF THEY'RE NOT VETERANS, IF IT'S A VETERANS WARD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A HUGE EVENT, UM, FRIDAY AND DO A DD TWO 14 REQUEST THROUGH NPRC.

ALL OF THOSE WILL GET MAILED BACK TO, UH, THE OFFICE HERE.

AND THEN I WILL MAKE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT TO FOLLOW UP WITH TERRELL STATES TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE DD TWO FOURTEENS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DD TWO FOURTEENS.

SO, UM, WE'VE GOT THE ANNUAL TRAINING COMING UP, UH, DECEMBER 3RD THROUGH FIFTH, I'LL BE IN SAN MARCOS FOR OUR ANNUAL TRAINING.

AND, UH, WE HAVE QUARTERLY TRAINING AT THE VA THIS MONTH ON THE 22ND.

UM, THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY MENTIONED THE VETERANS CEREMONY.

WE, UM, WE ADDED 15 NEW NAMES OR WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.

WE'VE GOTTEN MOST OF THEM, BUT THERE'S 15 NEW NAMES BEING ADDED TO THE WALL, UH, TO THE VARIOUS MONUMENTS OUT THERE AT THE PARK.

AND WE ADDED A NEW, UM, PRESIDENTIAL QUOTE TO ONE OF THE WALLS AS WELL.

UH, WE HAVE SOME MORE THINGS COMING DOWN THE LINE, SO AS THOSE TAKE SHAPE AND, AND, AND BECOME MORE DEFINITIVE OR DEFINITE THAN, THAN I'LL BRIEF YOU ON THOSE AS WELL.

AND THEN, UM, THE LAST THING WE AS THE JUDGE SAID IN THE CONSENT, WE DID OUR TESTING AND EVERYTHING AND WE ARE ACCREDITED AGAIN FOR YET ANOTHER YEAR.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? UH, LOVE THE OUTREACH.

UM, AT THE HOSPITAL WHEN MY DAD PASSED AWAY, HE WAS ENTITLED TO ALL NURSE AND WE COULDN'T FIND HIS DD TWO 14.

AND THAT WAS QUITE A GETTING THAT DONE BEFORE THE FUNERAL WAS QUITE AN ADVENTURE.

THERE IS BE GREAT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE CAUSE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MOVE AROUND AND LOSE THEM AND THAT SORT OF THING.

WHAT WOULD A LOT OF PEOPLE DO ACTUALLY? UM, I GET A LOT OF DD, TWO 14 REQUESTS FROM, UM, WELL FROM FOLKS LIKE YOU EVEN WHO ARE LOOKING FOR IT FOR THEIR PARENTS, JUST SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT MOMENT THOUGH, IF YOU WILL.

UM, SO WE DO A LOT OF THOSE.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, JUST ALSO ECHO THE JUDGE AND TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DID ON THE VETERANS SERVICE YESTERDAY.

AND, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT MESSAGE FROM OUR SPEAKER WHO IS THE JUDGE FOR COFFIN COUNTIES, VETERAN'S COURT, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH RECOGNITION.

SO MAYBE YOU JUST TAKE 30 SECONDS AND, UH, AND FOR THE RECORD, EXPLAIN THE VETERANS COURT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PLACE.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO VETERANS COURT IS, UM, WHEN, UH, WHEN A SERVICE MEMBER, UH, COMMITS TO AN OFFENSE THAT BOTH THE DA AND THE DEFENSE, UH, FIELD WARRANT, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT.

NOT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE MURDERERS SO TO SPEAK.

UM, BUT YOU HAVE A VETERAN THAT HAS LOST THEIR WAY, MAYBE MADE A MISTAKE AND SOMETIMES THEIR MISTAKES MAY BE RELATED TO, UM, SAY PTSD ISSUES, HEALTH RELATED ISSUES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, AND SO BY ENTERING INTO THE VETERANS COURT, WHICH I WOULD SOMEWHAT COMPARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TO LIKE DRUG COURT, UM, THEY ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE, UM, NOT JUST THE CORRECTIVE MEASURES THAT ARE NECESSARY AS A RESULT OF THEIR, THEIR INFRACTION, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE HEALTH CARE, UM, THE MENTAL HEALTH CARE THAT MAYBE HELPED TRIGGER THAT PROBLEM OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND, UM, SO VETERAN'S COURT IS PROGRAMMED WITH, UM, THE VA AND WE HAVE A, I'M THERE EACH MONTH.

WE MEET THE FIRST FRIDAY, UH, UP IN, OR IT'S ACTUALLY DOWNSTAIRS NOW IN JUDGE RICH'S COURTROOM AND I'M, SO I'M THERE, YOU'LL HAVE A VA REPRESENTATIVE THERE.

SHE'S THE HEALTH LIAISON AND SHE ACTUALLY HAS A COMPUTER THAT'S TAGGED, SO SHE CAN TELL WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR APPOINTMENTS.

SHE CAN SET UP APPOINTMENTS.

SHE'S, SHE'S THE HEALTH CARE SIDE OF IT.

UM, AND SO BASICALLY THEY'LL GO THROUGH ANYWHERE FROM A YEAR.

UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME THAT HAVE BEEN IN THERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN A YEAR

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AND THEY JUST GO THROUGH THREE PHASES AND AS THEY CONTINUE TO PROGRESS AND DO THE THINGS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, THEY CAN THEN PHASE UP, UH, ALL WORKING TOWARDS BASICALLY A COMMENCEMENT OR A GRADUATION, A COMPLETION PHASE.

AND THE GOAL IS THAT WE GET THEM THE HELP THAT THEY NEED WHILE CORRECTING THEIR MISTAKE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY MAYBE WON'T BE IN THAT SITUATION AGAIN.

SOME OF THE VETERANS ACTUALLY RECEIVE A FAIRLY DECENT BENEFIT OUT OF IT BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN, UM, CERTAIN VETERANS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR EXPUNGEMENT.

SO IF THEY COMPLETE THE PROGRAM AND THEY GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEN THEIR RECORD WILL BE STRICKEN OF THAT PARTICULAR INFRACTION AND THEY WON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT RECORD TO CARRY AROUND WITH THEM.

WELL, THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAMMING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PAM AND MANY OTHERS.

ROBERT REALLY SUPPORT THAT AND WE, WE, UH, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND FEEDING THE VETERANS A BREAKFAST THAT MORNING JUST TO, JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THE COUNTY SUPPORT TO THEM IN THAT PROGRAM IN ANY WAY.

I THINK IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S MONEY WELL SPENT, UH, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK IT COSTS US MUCH.

BUT UH, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID ROBERT.

I APPRECIATE PAM, UH, HOW YOU, UH, YOU GUYS GO THAT EXTRA STEP FOR OUR VETERANS.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING PASSED VETERANS DAY AND BEING A VETERAN, I JUST WANNA UH, TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATE, YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT EXCEPT IN THAT VETERANS THAT RE REPORT AS EMOTION.

I CERTAINLY DO.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE VETERANS REPORT AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SEC.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU ROBERT.

NEXT STEP.

[12. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider approving resolution declaring Kaufman County a Second Amendment Sanctuary County.]

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION DECLARING COFFIN COUNTY A SECOND AMENDMENT.

SANCTUARY COUNTY.

YEAH.

WE NEED TO GO AND READ THE DECLARATION HERE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

YOU CAN JUST DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US, UH, FROM THE, UH, COFFIN COUNTY, UH, REPUBLICAN PARTY.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS.

I'LL JUST READ IT VERBATIM HERE.

A RESOLUTION DECLARING KAUFMAN COUNTY A SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY, WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE SUPREME LAW OF OUR NATION.

AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION STATES A WELL REGULATED MILITIA BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

AND THE U S SUPREME COURT FOUND HIM MIRANDA VERSUS ARIZONA IN 1966 THAT WERE RIGHTS SECURED BY THE CONSTITUTION ARE INVOLVED.

THERE CAN BE NO RULE MAKING OR LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD AGGREGATE THEM.

AND THE US SUPREME COURT AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA VERSUS HELLER 2008 DECISION AFFIRMED THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS NOT CONNECTED IN ANY WAY TO SERVICE AND THE MILITIA.

AND THE U S SUPREME COURT IN THE UNITED STATES VERSUS MILLER IN 1939 AND STATED THAT FIREARMS THAT ARE PART OF ORDINARY MILITARY EQUIPMENT WITH USE THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMON DEFENSE ARE PROTECTED BY THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND THE 14TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION STATES NO STATE SHALL MAKE OR ENFORCE ANY LAW WHICH SHALL BRIDGE THE PRIVILEGES OR IMMUNITIES OF CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES NOR SHALL ANY STATE DEPRIVE ANY PERSON OF LIFE, LIBERTY OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW NOR DENY TO ANY PERSON WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION.

THE EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS AND THE SUPREME COURT IN THE MCDONALD VS CITY OF CHICAGO IN 2010 DECISION AFFIRMED THAT A PERSON'S SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS FURTHER SECURED BY THE DUE PROCESS AND THE PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES CAUSES OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT.

THE DECISION ALSO PROTECTS RIGHTS CLOSELY RELATED TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT LAMINATE, NAMELY THE RIGHT TO MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, PURCHASE, AND SELL FIREARMS, ACCESSORIES AND AMMUNITION.

AND THE 10TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION STATES THE POWERS NOT DELEGATED TO THE UNITED STATES ABOUT A CONSTITUTION NOR PROHIBITED IT TO THE STATES ARE RESERVED TO THE STATES RESPECTIVELY OR TO THE PEOPLE AND THE SUPREME COURT FOUND IN PRINCE VERSUS UNITED STATES IN 1997 THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT COMPEL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OF THE STATES TO ENFORCE FEDERAL LAWS AS IT WOULD INCREASE THE POWER OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FAR BEYOND THAT WHICH THE CONSTITUTION IN TANS AND THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION ARTICLE ONE SECTION 23 STATES.

EVERY CITIZEN SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS AND THE LAWFUL DEFENSE OF HIMSELF OR THE STATE.

AND DUE TO DUAL SOVEREIGNTY, SOVEREIGNTY STRUCTURE OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE STATE LAWS AND STATES CAN NOT BE COMPELLED TO ENFORCE FEDERAL LAWS.

AND THE LAST PROTECTORS OF THE UNITED STATES

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CONSTITUTION ARE THE COUNTY SHERIFFS AND WE, THE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND OUR ABILITY TO FULFILL THAT ROLE SUCCESSFULLY REST ON OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE PEOPLE OF COFFIN COUNTY THROUGH THEIR DULY ELECTED COMMISSIONERS COURT JUDGE AND SHERIFF HEREBY DESIGNATE KAUFMAN COUNTY A SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY IN ORDER TO PRESERVE FOR THE PEOPLE OF ON ANN COFFIN COUNTY, THEIR RIGHTS GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

FURTHERMORE, ANY REGULATION THAT VIOLATES THE BILL OF RIGHTS TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SHALL BE REGARDED BY THE PEOPLE OF COFFIN COUNTY TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THEREFORE BY NECESSITY, UNFAIR, ENFORCEABLE, AND INVALID.

FURTHERMORE, WE NEED PEOPLE OF COFFIN COUNTY, TEXAS THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION HEREBY DECLARE OUR RIGHTS, OUR FREEDOMS, AND OUR LIBERTY AS GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

OKAY.

THAT IS THE PROPOSED A RESOLUTION BEFORE THE COURT.

UH, ANY ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THAT RESOLUTION? I'LL MAKE THAT A MOTION.

MR BARBARA MAKES THAT RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

[13. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider allowing Atmos Energy to bury a gas line in County easement along County Road 260]

NEXT STEP.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER ALLOWING ATMOS ENERGY TO BURY GAS LINE AND COUNTY EASTMAN ALONG COUNTY ROAD TWO SIX TWO SIX ZERO IT'S JUST BASICALLY JUST TO GIVE HIM THE ROUTE OF WHITE TO LAY A GAS LINE TO GET TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT PUTTING IN DOWN THERE AND UH, WE CAN VISIT WITH THEM AND THEY ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE EXPECT.

SO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE APPROVE IT, COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ALLOWING ATMOS ENERGY TO BEAR A GAS LINE AND THE COUNTY USE THEM ALONG TWO 60.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM

[14. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider granting utility easement for the City of Kemp to replace existing water pipeline that crosses county property.]

14 COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSED MORE.

WE'RE AN EACH DAY TODAY, AREN'T WE? CHRISTIAN CAGE DISCUSSED CONSIDERED GRANTING UTILITY EASEMENT FOR THE CITY OF CAMP TO REPLACE EXISTING WATER PIPELINE THAT CROSSES COUNTY PROPERTY.

THIS IS A, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST A FOLLOW ON ACTION TO A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT THAT WE REACHED WITH THE CITY OF CAMP WE'RE IN.

WE PURCHASED SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTY FOR THEM TO ENLARGE OUR MATERIAL STORAGE AREA.

THERE IS AN EXISTING WATER LINE THAT, UH, LEAKS LIKE A SIEVE AND UH, THE CITY IS RECEIVING MONEY, GRANT MONEY TO REPLACE THAT.

THIS HAS ALL BEEN, UH, RUN THROUGH OUR COUNCIL'S OFFICE AND UH, WE ARE IN EXCHANGE FOR GRANTING THIS EASEMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET A NEW UPGRADED WATER TAP, SO I RECOMMEND UH, THIS BE APPROVED, NOT MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CAGE TO GRANT THAT UTILITY EASEMENT AS PRESENTED IN DISCUSSION ON ITEM 14.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND OF COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSED

[15. Commissioner Phillips; Discuss/Consider taking ail appropriate action to approve InterlocaI agreement between Municipal District #4 (Devonshire) and Pet. #2 Kaufman County to widen and resurface Ranch Road and to accept donation for the project]

CONSIDERED TAKING ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION TO APPROVE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN MUNICIPAL DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR, DEVIN CHAR IN PRECINCT TWO KAUFMAN COUNTY TO WIDEN AND RESURFACE RANCH ROAD AND TO ACCEPT DONATION FOR THE PROJECT COMMISSIONER.

WELL THAT'S EXACTLY, I'M LOOKING AT KAREN AND SHE'S GONNA COME UP, I THINK.

DID YOU RECEIVE THIS AGREEMENT? AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND IT BACK TO ME, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE MORNINGS.

THEY'VE SENT THAT AGREEMENT BACK SIGNED AND I'M WHAT THIS IS, IT'S JUST WHERE RANCH ROAD AND A PRECINCT TO THE, UM, THE UM, MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR FOR DEVIN SHIRE, THEY ARE GOING TO DONATE ROAD MATERIALS SO THAT UM, THE COUNTY CAN WIDEN THAT ROAD I BELIEVE TO 24 FEET AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

SO IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE REALLY PROBABLY THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT'S BEFORE THE COURT IS TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THAT DONATION SO THAT THEY CAN START THE PROCESS OF ACCEPTING THE ROAD MATERIALS AND AS THE WEATHER ALLOWS, THEY CAN, UM, DO THE WORK.

SO IT'S REALLY A BENEFIT FOR THE COUNTY CAUSE I WASN'T, I WASN'T GONNA TOUCH IT UNTIL THEY SEND US A CHECK.

WHAT IS THAT? I DON'T HAVE THE FORMS IN FRONT OF ME ON THE DONATION FORM.

DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT? I BELIEVE IT'S, AT FIRST I DID FOR CLOSE 400,000.

IT WILL BE BASICALLY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS BY THE END, THE THREE STAGES.

AND BASICALLY IT'S A MILLION DIVIDED BY THREE ROUGHLY.

IT'S, I THINK A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S LIKE 300,000 AND SOME CHANGE FOR EACH SECTION THAT THEY'RE DOING IT AND THEY'RE DOING IT, DONATING IT AND PERFORMING THE WORK AND SECTIONS.

RIGHT.

UM, SO THAT,

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YOU KNOW, THE ROAD CAN BE COMPLETED.

WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT IS THE AREA? IT'S WHAT IS THE AREA OF RANCH WORLD THAT THEY'RE DOING UNIVERSITY AND THEY HAVEN'T CHARGED WILL BE THE MONDAY DISTRICT WILL BE ON BOTH SIDES AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO GIVE US A TAX.

OKAY.

SO WHAT'S BEFORE US IS, UH, AS DISCUSSED ON ADAM 15, IT WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THAT DONATION TO FOR MATERIALS TO WIDEN AND RESURFACE RANCH ROAD.

YOU CARE TO MAKE THAT INFORMED EMOTION.

COMMISSIONER PUT THAT IN THE MOTION.

OKAY.

THE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ONE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

KAREN.

UH,

[16. Deborah Bonner; Discuss/Consider entering into an Interlocal agreement between Kaufman County and Henderson County for services through the Department of Public Safety for Drug Testing]

ITEM 16, UH, DEBRA BANO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ENTERING INTO AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND HENDERSON COUNTY FOR SERVICES THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR DRUG TESTING.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A DEJA VU LAND TODAY.

FOR SOME REASON WE ARE IN DEJA VU LAND.

UH, WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS THE FINAL STEP, I HOPE IN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY, HENDERSON COUNTY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR DRUG TESTING.

HOPEFULLY TO GET THE BACKLOG CAUGHT UP AND GET THE DRUG TESTING TURNAROUND CUT DOWN TO 30 DAYS.

SO ANDERSON COUNTY HAS ALREADY APPROVED IT LAST WEEK IN THEIR COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND IS NOW PRESENTED TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

UH, WE'RE TRYING, UH, VERY SOON.

THE LAST TIME WE TALKED TO DPS, THEY WERE JUST ABOUT READY TO GO.

SO ANY DAY NOW, UH, HOPEFULLY MOVE OUR CASE LOADS ALONG THERE.

SO ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR DEB? ONE POSITION HAS ALREADY BEEN FILLED.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING ONE OF THEIR EXISTING PEOPLE INTO THIS POSITION FOR US AND THEY'RE GOING TO JUST TAKE UP, TAKE THE HIT AND HAVE ONE OF THEIR TRAINEES FILL THE POSITION THAT THEY'RE, HE'S VACATING.

YEAH.

SO THIS'LL GIVE PARTNERING WITH ANDERS.

CAN I GIVE US A DEDICATED PERSON TO TEST OUR DRUGS? SAYS IN OUR CASES, WE SHARE THE COST WITH HENDERSON COUNTY FOR THAT POSITION.

OKAY.

FOR NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING UH, THAT INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY HENDERSON COUNTY? I'M SORRY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM.

COMMISSIONER BORROWER.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

DON'T BRING IT BACK TO US.

[17. Discuss/Consider approving Kaufman County Commissioners Court Rules of Procedure, Conduct, and Decorum FY 2019-2020]

UH, ITEM 17, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT RULES OR PROCEDURE CONDUCT AND DECORUM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 2020 REBECCA, DO YOU WANT TO BRIEF THIS SINCE WE, YOU AND I AND ALL THIS CONVERSATION? I SURE CAN.

SO OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER HUNT'S ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR OFFICE ON IT, THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED OR PASSED HOUSE BILL 28 40.

AND WHAT THAT BILL DOES IS IT SAYS THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ALLOWED TIME TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN IT ALSO FURTHER EXPLAINS THAT YOU GUYS AS A QUARTER GOVERNING BODY CAN ADOPT RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR HOW YOU CONDUCT YOUR MEETINGS AND HOW THAT SPEECH WILL OCCUR BETWEEN THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN KAUFFMAN HAS HAD THESE ROLES FOR OH ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS SINCE AROUND 2014.

AND WHAT THE JUDGE AND I DID WAS UPDATED THE RULES SO THAT THEY WOULD UM, ADOPT THE SECTIONS OF 28, 40.

UM, THOSE ARE THAT, UM, WE NEED TO ALLOW FOR DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR ANYONE THAT'S USING A TRANSLATOR AND THEN ALSO LAY OUT A PROCESS FOR IF WE NEED TO LENGTH IN TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

AND THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS WOULD DO THAT IS BY VOTING BY A MAJORITY OF THE COURT.

OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S THE SAME THREE MINUTES THAT'S ALLOTTED FOR EVERY PERSON AND THEN THE PARTICIPATION FORM WOULD BE FILLED OUT BEFORE AND THEN THAT PERSON WOULD SAY THEY WANT TO SPEAK EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER THAT ITEM.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RULES? AND WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT IF WE HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE SPEAKING, WE CAN LIMIT IT TO LESS.

WE CAN LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TOTAL TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE TO DISCUSSION OF THAT ITEM.

SO THIS, THESE RULES ACTUALLY DO AWAY WITH THAT.

AND SO IT ALLOWS FOR THREE MINUTES PER EVERY PERSON.

SO THEORETICALLY IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN, EACH PERSON WOULD GET THE THREE MINUTES.

UM, BUT THE THREE MINUTES IS NOT SET NECESSARILY AT THE THREE MINUTES CAN BE, IT CAN BE LENGTHENED.

OKAY.

BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COURT QUESTIONS.

I GUESS THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M HAVE WOULDN'T BE THAT TRANSLATOR WOULD

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DO.

THEY ADD SOMETHING IN THERE FOR A FUTURE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE POST POSTED SO MANY DAYS IN ADVANCE WHERE THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY US THAT THEY NEEDED A TRANSLATOR BEFORE THE COURT DATE OR WHEN IT GETS TO THE COURT AND THEY DO, WE HAVE TO TABLE IT AND MOVE IT TO THE NEXT ONE.

IT DOESN'T SAY IT ACTUALLY, IT REALLY DOESN'T.

ALL IT SAYS IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOT DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TIME.

IT DOESN'T SAY WHO'S TO PROVIDE THE TRANSLATOR OR IF THEY HAVE TO BRING THEIR OWN.

I'M TRYING LATER.

IT DOESN'T SAY THEN SAY, OKAY, WE WOULD ACCOMMODATE, WE WOULD ACCOMMODATE SOMEBODY IF WE HAD THE SKILLS TO DO THE TRANSLATION.

YEAH.

I MEAN THE BIG PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE NOBODY, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME IF THE COURT WANTED TO TABLE, I KNOW OUR OFFICE ALSO HAS THAT CAPABILITY TOO.

SO IF THAT, IF WE COME ACROSS THAT ISSUE, JUST LET US KNOW.

QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THEN ONCE BEFORE, THIS IS A LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALL FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT RULES OR PROCEDURE CONDUCT AND DECORUM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 20.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SEGREGATE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE HAVE THE RAIL AND SMITH SHOW

[18. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider permission to solicit RFP 20-03 annual contract for County Purchase of Various Road Materials, Hauling of Materials, and Road Projects]

STARTING WITH ITEM 18, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFP 2003 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR COUNTY PURCHASE OF VARIOUS MATERIALS HAULING OF MATERIALS AND ROAD PROJECTS.

MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, I HAD SENT OUT AN EMAIL AND ALSO THE SPECIFICATIONS BUT THIS BEEN LAST WEEK SO THAT Y'ALL COULD REVIEW IT.

AND THIS IS JUST COMBINING TWO RFPS THAT WE DID LAST FISCAL YEARS.

SO VENDORS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON ALL THREE PARTS OF THE RFP OR ONE OF THREE.

UM, IT SHOULD OPEN IT UP TO ALL THE VENDORS AND IT'LL CARRY EVERYTHING UNDER ONE CONTRACT.

AND THE ONE SECTION THAT WE DID ADD WAS THAT VENDORS COULD OPT IN AND OUT IF WE HAD A PARTICULAR COUNTY ROAD PROJECT THAT CAME UP THAT YOU WANTED TO HAND OVER TO A VENDOR RATHER THAN HANDLING IN HOUSE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO GRANT PERMISSION TO SOLICIT I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND RENTAL PERMISSION OR BARBARA DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

[19. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of county owned assets.]

ITEM 19, UH, DISCUSS RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY OWNED ASSETS.

UH, YOU HAVE YOUR CURRENT LIST OF ITEMS THAT NEED TO GO TO MOVE TO SURPLUS AND ALSO NEED TO GO TO AUCTION.

THESE ARE THE VEHICLES THAT WERE LIFT OVER AT SOUTH CAMPUS.

SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING UP ON SOME MISSING PAPERWORK.

I HATE TO GIVE UP ON THAT 1995 HEATER.

IT'D BE HARD.

YEAH.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO UH, TO APPROVE RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY ON ASSETS AS PRESENTED? NOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND OF COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT

[20. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider the purchse of a 2016 Gradall XL3100 from Kirby-Smith Machiner, Inc. utilizing Buyboard Contract #565-16, for precinct #4. ]

STEP.

ITEM 20 DISCUSS.

CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF THE 2016 GRADE.

ALL X 3,100 FROM KIRBY SMITH.

THIS IS FOR PRECINCT FOUR.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PURCHASE OF A 2016 GREAT.

ALL THE TOTAL PURCHASE AMOUNT IS 194,000 I DO NEED TO NOTE THAT WITH THIS APPROVAL WE WOULD NEED TO ALSO INCLUDE THE TRADE IN OF ASSET NUMBER EIGHT TWO TWO SEVEN.

SO IT'LL BE A $40,000 TRADE IN INCLUDED IN THE AMOUNT OF THE ONE 94.

SO THE MOTION, THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE WOULD STIPULATE THAT THERE IS A TRADE IN FOR $40,000.

GOT IT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

A COMMISSIONED CASE MAKES A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THAT.

UH, 2016 GRADE ON ITEM 20 WITH A STIPULATION THAT INCLUDES A TRADE IN.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, WAS OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[21. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider permission to solicit RFP 20-04 TSSWCB - Cedar Creek 90]

NEXT STEP.

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFP.

2004, UH, TEXAS WORLDWIDE HAVE A WATER CONSERVATION BOARD.

SO YOUR CREEK 90.

YES.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF MANY, UH, DAMN REPAIRS THAT WE WILL BE DOING WITH, UH, THE T S S WCB.

UH, THE SOLICITATION PACKETS, THE SPECIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING HAD BEEN PROVIDED BY THE PROJECT ENGINEER.

UH, WE WILL ALSO DO SITE VISITS AND UM, FREE SOLICITATION MEETINGS WITH THE VENDORS.

PROJECT ENGINEER HAS ALSO PROVIDED ME WITH THE LIST OF VENDORS.

SO IT WILL BE WORKING CLOSELY.

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UH, RAYLAND IS, I'VE BEEN IN SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH RAELYNN ABOUT THIS STUFF AND SHE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS SOME SORT OF A WATER DAM EXPERT CAUSE SHE JUST, UH, SAILS RIGHT THROUGH IT.

AND THEN WE, WE GET PAID IN ADMINISTERED, WE GET IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR MANAGING FOR WHAT THE WORK THAT SHE'S DOING, WHICH, UH, IS HELPFUL.

SO WHAT'S ANY QUESTIONS? AND LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS THE FIRST, HAVE YOU SEEN A NUMBER OF THESE? YES.

UM, SO WHAT'S BEFORE US IS TO GRANT PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFP 2004 FOR CEDAR CREEK 90 AS HER EMOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES AND I'LL ASK THEM AT LEAST FOR YOU.

RAYMOND IS

[22. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider award of contract for RFP 20-01 Solid Waste and Recycling Services]

DISCUSSED.

CONSIDER AWARD A CONTRACT FOR RFP 2001 SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES.

UM, WITH THE HELP OF COMMISSIONER HUT, WE DID GO OUT FOR BIDS FOR THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS.

WE RECEIVED ONE BID.

UM, THIS WOULD INCLUDE A CONVENIENCE STATION IN PRECINCT FOUR AND THREE AND ALSO PROVIDE FOR RECYCLING AND PRECINCT TO UH, WITH THE COUNTY WIDE CLEANUP.

EACH PRECINCT WOULD SEE THREE CLEANUPS WITHIN THEIR AREA THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR.

WE'LL HAVE ACTUALLY A ROTATION SCHEDULE THAT WE'LL GET TOGETHER WITH EACH PRECINCT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN ALIGNMENT WITH PRECINCT ONE IN THE CITY CLEANUP, ET CETERA.

UM, I SAW DICK DEMEAN HERE.

WHERE ARE YOU DOING? WHY DON'T YOU STEP UP HERE? CAUSE I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES, BUT UH, THESE MAY BE MORE RELEVANT FOR YOU TO BE ANSWERING THEN.

RIGHT.

CAN WE GO INTO THAT OR FINISH? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AVAILABLE LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

THE ONE THING THAT WE DID ADD TO THE SPECIFICATION IS WHEN WE BEGAN GOING OUT FOR BIDS ON OUR NUISANCE ABATEMENT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A SET PRICE TO WHERE WE COULD PROVIDE THE CONTAINERS RATHER THAN PAYING EXTRA FOR OTHER VENDORS TO BRING CONTAINERS ON.

SO WE DID ALSO RECEIVE A FLAT RATE FOR THAT AND THE DISPOSAL FEES AS PRESENTED ON SCHEDULE A WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THOSE HOUSEHOLD WASTE ITEMS AT ALL OF THE LOCATIONS AS WELL.

SO THAT'LL BE AN ADDED BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS.

ALSO.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICATIONS OR, WELL, I DIDN'T GET THIS DOCUMENT, I DIDN'T SEE THIS, THIS, I DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT.

UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFICATIONS, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THIS CONTRACT? ONE 65 TABLETS, ONE 65 AND 165,000 FOR THE YEAR.

YEAH.

SO BASICALLY, YEAH, THIS ALL WAS SENT OUT IN ALL OF OUR PIPE WORK, BUT A 165,000 AND WE HAD A THREE 57 BUDGETED.

SO WITH THIS MAINTAINING THE KAUFMAN CONVENIENCE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE, WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN YET, WHAT THE B IT IS FOR THE S AND WE'VE EXPANDED OUR RECYCLING EFFORTS.

THEY'RE PROVIDING A LOT MORE RECYCLING THAN WHAT WE'RE NOW.

UH, WE'RE CREATING A NEW CONVENIENCE STATION IN TERRELL.

UM, WE'RE CONTINUING THE RECYCLING AND PRECINCT TWO AND WE'RE MANAGING THE, THE CONVENIENCE STATION WENT DOWN TO CAMP AND AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, APPROXIMATELY AROUND $20,000 THAT WE'RE SAVING FROM THE MONEY WE HAD BUDGETED.

AND SO, AND WE'VE INCREASED WHAT WE'RE RECYCLING AND WE'VE GOT, UM, THEY'RE PROVIDING EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO DOES THAT INCLUDE PERSONNEL COSTS, MIKE? YEAH.

YES IT DOES.

YES.

LET ME SEE.

WELL, I'LL WAIT.

MY QUESTION IS LAST, I JUST HAVE KIND OF A LIST OF QUESTIONS JUST TO CLARIFICATION'S.

UM, CAN I GO? IS THAT ALL RIGHT? UM, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK AT THE, UH, THE TABULATION OR THE WORD COMES DOWN TO THE 165,000.

I CAN'T FOLLOW THE RIGHT.

AND I JUST READ THIS THIS MORNING SO I DIDN'T GET MY CALCULATOR OUT.

SO THE MONTHLY TOTALS FOR OPERATING THOSE THREE FACILITIES IS 6,400 AND THEN YOU SEE THAT LINE THAT SAYS UNDERWEAR THAT SAYS, DO THESE, TELL ME HOW THESE NUMBERS TOTAL UP.

I DON'T, OR THEY THEY DON'T OTHER WORDS THE JUST ADD DOWN THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN TO GET TO ONE 65.

RIGHT.

SO ON THE MONTHLY TOTAL WAS YOU MULTIPLY BY 12 TO GET THE ANNUAL AND THEN DOWN THE COLUMN TO GET THE TOTAL.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, ON PAGE 15,

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IT'S ON PAGE 15, THAT LIGHT NEXT TO THE LAST BULLET THING, IT SAYS BOTH COFFIN COUNTY LOCATIONS WILL BE OPEN EIGHT TO FOUR, BUT THERE'S THREE RIGHT? THE PRECINCT TO RECYCLING WILL BE OPEN BECAUSE IT'S LOCATED THERE AT THE BARN.

WE TRY BOTH COFFIN COUNTY LOCATIONS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TERRELL AND THE CAMP FACILITY.

WE LEFT KAUFFMAN OUT INTENTIONALLY, SO WE DIDN'T TOUCH KAUFMAN AND THEIR HOURS AND THE WAY IT'S SET UP, THEY'RE STRICTLY BIDDING TERRIBLE CAMP AND RESTOCKING IT FOR ME.

OKAY.

UM, AND THE PERSONNEL, YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE PERSONNEL TO PRACTICE STAFF THESE FACILITIES THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, EIGHT O'CLOCK TO FOUR O'CLOCK.

OKAY.

THAT'S LONGER THAN I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT.

AND THEN CAN COFFMAN IS THE CARPET FACILITY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS? NO.

GOOD.

JUST TO REFRESH MY, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW, I KNOW WE SHARE THAT WITH THE CITY? HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, THE WAY THAT, THE WAY WE DO IT HERE IN KAUFMAN IS THE CITY.

WE USE THE CITY CONTRACT FOR THE WEISS SERVICES.

SO WE GET A REDUCED RATE THERE.

WE PROVIDE THE MANPOWER, THEY PROVIDE THE, THE LOCATION, THE LAND, AND THEN WE USE OUR CONTRACT PROCESS.

UH, WE'RE OPEN FROM WEDNESDAY, FROM EIGHT TO FOUR THROUGH SATURDAY.

AND UM, UM, WE OPERATE WITH A COUPON SYSTEM.

SO COUNTY RESIDENTS BY THE COUPONS HERE AT THE TAX OFFICE, SEE THE RESIDENTS BY THE COUPONS AT THE CITY.

THE CITY IS PROVIDING THE, ALL THE, UH, ACCOUNTING.

THEY KEEP A LOG.

HOW MANY TICKETS COME IN, WHERE THEY COME IN FROM, UH, THE, THE CUBIC YARDS THAT THEY BRING IN.

AND WE SEND IT TO THE CITY AND THEY WORK OUT.

WE PAY FOR WHAT WE USE, WE JUST PAY STRICTLY AND THEY'LL SEND A BILL TO THE AUDITOR FOR THE COUPONS THAT WE USE.

AND THEN THE, THE YARDAGE THAT WE USE, UH, SINCE WE STARTED USING THE TRUSTEES OR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INCARCERATED TO PICK UP TRASH, WE'VE HAD TO IMPLEMENT ANOTHER, DO YOU ALLOW ME TO KEEP TRACK OF THE CUBIC YARDS? SO WE'RE PAYING OUR APPROPRIATE PART THERE.

SO THEY ALSO HAVE KEEP RECORDS THERE.

SO WE PAY FOR THE CUBIC YARDS OF THAT, OF THE COUNTYWIDE STUFF THAT THEY PICK UP ALL THE TRUSTEES PICKUP.

SO IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE PAYING OUR FAIR SHARE AND IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT.

SO DO YOU KNOW, JUST BALLPARK WHAT THAT COSTS THE COUNTY A YEAR TO RUN THE COFFIN FACILITY? WE HAD, NO, WE'VE GOT BUDGET 70,003, 10 AND WE USUALLY OPERATE CLOSE TO THE, WE ALL BUY IN THE BLACK EVERY YEAR.

SO WE'RE PAYING A PART TIME EMPLOYEE AND UH, YOU KNOW, PAYING THE BENEFITS AND WE'RE PAYING OUR FAIR SHARE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY OPERATING IN THE BLACK.

THERE'S THAT MUCH VOLUME COMING IN BECAUSE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE BEEN CATCHING A LOT OF VOLUME FOR WASTE AT OTHER PLACES BECAUSE TERRELL FOR SOME REASON WASN'T OPENING CAMP, WASN'T OPENED A LOT DOWN THERE EITHER AND PEOPLE WERE BRINGING A LOT TO US SO IT GENERATES MORE REVENUE ONCE WE GET THIS SET UP.

I'M SURE THE NUMBERS MIGHT FLUCTUATE SOME AND THE SEED IS GOING OUT FOR A CONTRACT FOR, THERE'D BE ADS THIS YEAR.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS WITH THE CITY AND THE COST THAT WAY TOO.

SO.

AND UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE CAMP ECO STATION? IS THAT, IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE A REVENUE GENERATOR? WELL IT REVENUE, IT GENERATES SOME REVENUE BUT IT DOESN'T PAY FOR ITSELF.

WHAT I FOUND OUT WHENEVER I WAS LOOKING AT ALL THIS, EVERYBODY WAS DOING THEIR OWN THING.

IT WAS NOTHING STANDARDIZED AT ALL.

AND THEN I'M SURE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT LED TO THE DEFICITS IN THESE OTHER PLACES.

SO I GUESS I JUST, HOW OPERATIONALLY WILL CAMP WORK WITH YOU? CAUSE WE PREVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T USE COUPONS OR WE, YOU WON'T BE USING COUPONS NOW.

I WAS LIKE, THEY WANT TO USE THE DEBIT CARDS, CREDIT CARDS, STUFF THAT, HOW THEY HANDLE THEIR, THEIR INCOME IS, IS THE WAY THEY, IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

SO THE CONTRACTOR WILL TAKE, WILL RECEIVE THE FUNDS.

YES.

AND SO CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE FEES WILL BE DOWN THERE? SAME AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY.

THE CURRENT FEES THAT ARE POSTED, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WE'VE MOVED TIRES FROM $5 PER TIRE TO $7 PER TIRE.

AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, PROVIDE SOME HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION THAT'S NOT BEING CURRENTLY COLLECTED AT THE LOCATIONS.

UH, AND WE HAVE A SEPARATE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THOSE ITEMS. AND THAT'S IN HERE.

THAT'S THAT'S INCLUDED YESTERDAY.

YEAH.

SO TALK ABOUT LIKE HOW ARE YOU GOING TO, AND THIS

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IS KIND OF AN AUDITING QUESTION I GUESS.

UH, WHAT'S OUR PLAN FOR MONITORING THE CASH RECEIPTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT MONEY ALL IS BEING, CAUSE Y'ALL KNOW Y'ALL ARE GONNA REPORT EXPENDITURES AND REVENUE TO US.

SO HOW ARE YOU, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR YOU? WELL, WE JUST USE A SIMPLE QUICK BOOKS PROGRAM.

SO WE DO, OUR ACCOUNTING JUST IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT'S JUST MONEY IN MONEY OUT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT IN OUR QUICKBOOKS BECAUSE THEY'LL BE HANDLING A LOT OF CASH.

PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY NOT TO HANDLE VERY MUCH CASH.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A REMOTE LOCATION AND HAVE A LOT OF CASH OUT THERE.

UH, ONE PERSON, UM, UM, ONE EMPLOYEE BY THEMSELVES OUT THERE.

WE'RE REALLY, I THINK GOING TO PROBABLY STATE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A DEBIT OR CREDIT CARD OR A VOUCHER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

WE'RE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF CASH OUT THERE, BUT EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING THEY BRING.

CORRECT.

UH, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT, I SEE THAT THERE'S BRUSH ACCEPTED AT ALL LOCATIONS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, RIGHT? BUT, UH, WHAT ARE Y'ALL GONNA DO WITH THE BRUSH? THE BRUSH WILL GO TO A BRUSH RECYCLING LANDFILL WHERE THEY CHIP IT UP AND THEY PUT IT OUT FOR MULCH FOR THEIR CITIZENS.

UH, CURRENTLY LOOKING AT A GARLAND LANDFILL FOR THAT.

WHAT'S THE, UH, W WHAT DOES THE CONTRACT SAY ABOUT REVISION OF THE FEE SCHEDULE IN THE FUTURE? IS THERE, IS THERE A CONTRACT LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW MUCH THE FEES CAN GO UP AND THAT KIND OF, THEY WILL BE GIVING US QUARTERLY REPORTS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR HOW THE BUSINESS IS GOING FOR THEM AS WELL AS HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE BUSINESS.

SO ALTHOUGH THIS IS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT, THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO US WITHIN ONE YEAR.

AND I'M LOOKING AT ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

THAT'LL BE WITHIN 12 OUR COMMISSIONERS.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

EVERY TIME.

AND, AND UTILITIES AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WILL THAT TRANSFER TO THE VENDOR? AND WHAT ABOUT, I COULDN'T QUITE HEAR YOU.

OH, ARE YOU RECORDING THIS NOW? SPEAK LOUDER.

AND MIKE, WHAT ABOUT OUR CAMERAS OUT THERE WHEN WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THOSE CAMERAS ARE, I WOULD HOPE SO.

JUST FROM A SECURITY.

I MEAN IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT A BIG DEAL TO HAVE THE CAMERAS RUNNING.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE PRUDENT FOR US TO DO THAT.

GENERAL DISCUSSION FOR EVERYBODY SITTING HERE, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ARE OUR BIG CLEANUPS OR BIG COUNTY CLEANUPS, WHICH ARE VERY POPULAR.

BUT SOME PEOPLE TELL ME THAT WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE A LOT OF IT'S SAYING THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE APPARENTLY WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO PILE UP MANY MONTHS OF GARBAGE, HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE, AND THEN THAT THAT'S THEN THEY, WHICH IS A NOT A GOOD THING FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH A HOUSEHOLD WITH A BIG CLEANUP SAID Y'ALL IS THAT GOOD FOR EVERYBODY? OKAY.

THAT'S, I THINK THEY WERE, THEY'RE BREAKING THEM UP TO MAKE IT NOT AS BIG AND THEN YOU GET AROUND.

SO MAYBE THE TRASH WILL NOT ACCUMULATE.

YOU KNOW, THERE WON'T BE A HALF A DOZEN MATTRESSES COMING IN AT ONE TIME FROM ONE PERSON AND ALL THE VENDOR STAFF, THOSE CLEANUPS NOW.

YES.

YES.

UH, LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH RECYCLING.

UH, I SEE YOU'VE GOT PLASTIC HERE.

UH, I MIGHT'VE BEEN MISINFORMED, BUT I W WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT THERE'S JUST NO MARKET FOR PLASTIC.

IS THAT NOT TRUE? THE MARKET PRICE FOR PLASTIC IS WAY DOWN RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT A VALUABLE COMMODITY, BUT WE DO HAVE OUTLETS TO GET IT RECYCLED, WHICH IS CHEAPER THAN PUTTING IN LANDFILL.

NO, UNFORTUNATELY NOT.

UH, SO, BUT WE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND IF WE DO GET PLASTICS IN FOR UH, RECYCLABLES, WE WILL TAKE THEM TO A RECYCLING FACILITY EVEN THOUGH IT'S ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT THEN TOTALLY UNFILTERED.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HAD IS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE COUNTY, WE, THERE'S BEEN RECYCLING GOING ON AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAD GONE TO A LOT OF TROUBLE TO SEPARATE THEIR PLASTIC AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THAT ENDED UP JUST GOING TO THE LANDFILL, WHICH I DON'T REALLY WISH THAT STATEMENT WAS TRUE BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME I WALKED OUT TO CAMP AND THEY HAD A DUMPSTER FULL OF PLASTIC THAT WAS PLASTIC GLASS CANS ALL IN TRASH BAGS.

SO IT WAS ALL CONTAMINATED.

SO SURE.

THEN I WENT TO THE DUMP.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO GO TO THE LIGHT.

I'M JUST SAYING, I'M SAYING HAS BEEN, WE HAVE HAD SITUATIONS IN THE COUNTY WHERE THE PEOPLE GO INTO ALL THAT TROUBLE AND SEPARATED AND HE ENDS UP IN THE LANDFILL.

AND THE ONES THAT ARE MONITORED IN THE HEARING, KAUFFMAN, I MEAN SONNY'S THERE, HE'S GOT A RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE RECYCLERS.

THEY GO VISIT THE, HE HELPS THEM GET ALL THEIR STUFF INTO THE APPROPRIATE VANS AND YOU KNOW, HE MAKES SURE THAT IT IS

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CLEAN WHENEVER YOU HAVE PEOPLE JUST COME OUT THERE AND IT'S JUST TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO DUMP.

THEY WILL NOT STEVE AS YOU'RE GOING TO BE WILL HIS FACILITY WILL BE STAFFED BY YOUR PEOPLE OR BY HIS PEOPLE.

HIS PEOPLE.

CAUSE THAT'S JUST JUST ONSITE TYPE OF, YEAH, IT'S JUST ON.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OUR CANS ARE SITTING OUT THERE SEPARATED AND WE HAVE CAMERAS ON THEM.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND ISSUED TICKETS FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND PUT TRASH IN, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

AND, AND IT'S AMAZING THAT IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE WHEN THEY STARTED EATING.

THAT'S A, THAT'S THE NASTIEST THING.

UH, BUT, BUT I JUST, I WAS JUST SITS OUT IN THE OPEN AND, AND UH, IT'S KIND OF AN HONOR SYSTEM WITH THE CAMERA.

SO YOU'RE, SO YOU'LL BE MANAGING, PICKING UP THOSE DUMPSTERS AT THAT PRECINCT TOO AND ALL THAT.

WE'LL DO THE HAULING OF THOSE DUMPSTERS.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S INCLUDED.

YEAH.

UM, I'LL, OKAY.

THAT'S, YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE.

I DID, YES MA'AM.

WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE FARM? WE ARE BLACKJACK DISPOSAL.

THEY'RE GAMBLING IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE IT, I NEED A W NINE.

RIGHT.

UM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BILL US? WE'LL BILL ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGNING THAT INVOICE? APPROVING IT? I GUESS EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT ME.

GOOD QUESTION, MIKE.

YEAH, THAT'D BE, HE'S OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGER.

ALRIGHT.

JUST MAKING SURE.

THANK YOU.

UH, AND WE GET MONTHLY, WE'LL GET REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORTS QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT'S UP BEFORE US IS CONSIDERED AWARD OF CONTRACT SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION? YEAH, JUST ONE.

SORRY, JUST ONE LAST QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT? IT IS A TWO YEAR TERM.

IT WILL BEGIN DECEMBER 1ST 20.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MARILYN.

OKAY.

YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN SIX THINGS ON THE AGENDA AT ONE TIME OR, UH, MIXED.

DISCUSS

[23. Discuss/Consider line item transfers]

LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

MADAM AUDITOR.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING.

THESE WERE SUBMITTED TO YOU EARLIER.

THEY'RE VERY SMALL.

COUPLE TRANSFERS NEEDED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS. ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

MOTION IS A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE TRANSFERS FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

WERE COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM.

[24. Discuss/Consider claims for payment. ]

CLAIMS FOR PAYMENTS.

THAT'S A BIG THICK PAD THERE.

YES SIR.

UH, YOUR CLIENTS FOR PAYMENT ARE $3,501,015 AND 17 CENTS.

1,000,300 AND 15,480, 88 WERE PAYROLL AND TRANSFERS AND ACH IS YOUR ACTUAL BILLS WERE 2,185,534 29 QUESTIONS.

NO QUESTIONS.

MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED.

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE EACH COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER AND CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[25. Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and entering into executive session. ]

[26. Executive Session: Pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to consult with attorneys regarding pending or anticipated litigation regarding: Winzer, Murphy, Lassiter and Lahkani. ]

[27. Executive Session: Pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code, Economic Development negotiations, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss the Lily Solar Project]

[28. Executive Session: Pursuant to Section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss the Engineer position. ]

BRINGS US TO ITEM 25.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXITING RIGOR MEETING AND ENTER INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UH, WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'M GOING TO READ THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ALL THREE OF THESE.

AND I'LL READ EACH OF THESE.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM 26 IS PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS REGARDING PENDING OR ANTICIPATED LITIGATION REGARDING WINDSOR MURPHY LASSETER.

AND LAKHANI.

WE'LL ALSO BE JUST CUTTING ITEM 27 PURSUANT TO SECTION 501.087 OF THE TASTES OF GOVERNMENT CODE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THE LILY

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SOLAR PROJECT.

UM, THE THOSE REPRESENTING LILY SOLAR.

THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST ITEM OF DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, WE'LL BRING YOU GUYS INTO THIS MEETING ROOM BACK HERE.

THEN WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ITEM 28 PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE 1.07, FOUR OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION, DISCUSS THE ENGINEER POSITION.

UH, WE'LL DO THAT ONE SECOND.

SO WE'LL DO 27 FIRST 28 SECOND AND THEN GO BACK TO 26.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO EXIT REGULAR SESSION.

GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE TO LEAVE EXEC A REGULAR SESSION GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND WHERE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE'LL DO LILLIS HOLDER PROJECT FIRST AND THEN A VERY, WE'LL NEED YOU FOR THE SECOND ONE.

SO

[29. Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and entering back into regular meeting. ]

[30. Discuss/Consider taking any action needed as a result of executive session. ]

WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE US FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

REGULAR SESSION.

I THOUGHT BY SAYING IT'S FREE EYES.

COME ON, LET'S GO.

WHERE ARE WE GOING? GO FIVE MINUTES.

HAVE WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING RIGHT NOW? ANOTHER.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER POSTED MEETING.

WE'VE GOT MY GOSH.

OKAY.

SO IF WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION, ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF, THERE WERE NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ARE THERE, I'M SORRY, LAURA, ARE THERE ANY EMOTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES.

WELL, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE INITIATION OF LEGAL PROCEEDINGS REGARDING THE INSURANCE OF TABC PERMIT TO JOHNNY WINE LOCATED AT 11 ONE 11 FIVE ONE ONE FARM TO MARKET ROAD FIVE 48 AND 40 TEXAS.

UH, WHERE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, ENTERTAIN

[31. Adjourn Regular Meeting]

A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND.

THE SECOND SEGREGATE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION OF IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, THIS

[Board of Directors Kaufman County Assistance District No. 1]

IS A, UH, MEDIA OF THE COFFIN COUNTY ASSISTANT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

WE'RE CONVENED, UH, IT'S TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, AFTER 9:00 AM OR IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM.

UM, AUTUMN ONE DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE FOLLOWING LAND ON PETITIONS TO ADD PROPERTY TO COFFIN COUNTY ASSISTANCE.

DISTRICT NUMBER ONE IN ORDER TO BE ADDITION PROPERTY AS REFERENCED TO PETITION, PETITIONER'S EXHIBITS TO COFFIN COUNTY ASSISTANCE.

DISTRICT NUMBER ONE M M CLEMENT'S 10 LLC C A D G T R SOUTH LLC C T M G T LANDHOLDINGS LP C T M G T TRAVIS RANCH LLC TWO M T R MODEL PARK LLC AND PULTE HOMES OF TEXAS LP.

UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE THOSE FOLLOWING LAND OWNERS INTO THE THE UH, ASSISTANCE DISTRICT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT EMOTIONAL.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND SACRIFICE.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE PO'S KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UM, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

WE HAVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SEPARATE COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

GENTLEMAN, BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE.