[* This meeting has been joined in progress *]
[3. Mike Slye: Discuss/Consider Interlocal Agreement with City of Crandall to Participate in Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 6.]
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MODI AND CENTURIAN AMERICAN TO DEVELOP A 56 ACRE PASSIVE PARK.
AND WE COULD USE SOME OF THIS.
WE WON'T USE THE COUNTY'S RESOURCES.
YOUR COUNTY RESOURCES IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED AND SUPPORTED, UH, BY YOUR ATTORNEY, UH, WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, WASTEWATER, ROADS.
SOME OF THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENT THAT I TALKED ABOUT ON 1 48 NORTH WOULD INCLUDE YOUR PARTICIPATION, ASSUMING THAT YOU APPROVE THE PARTICIPATION.
$71 MILLION TURS IF EVERYTHING WAS BUILT OUT.
NEXT PAGE IS SIMPLY A, A, A BREAKOUT OF THAT $71 MILLION.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A BUDGETED, IT'S A BUDGET FOR THAT TURS, BUT YOU CAN MOVE MONEY IN BETWEEN THOSE LINE ITEMS AS NECESSARY, RIGHT? SO WE'VE GOT $25 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES.
ANOTHER 25 FOR STREET AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, SIX AND A HALF FOR THAT PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANTS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPER OR, OR TENANTS TO MOVE TO CRANDALL.
THAT'S ALL COMING FROM THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION.
AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO, TO MANAGE THE TUR.
SO WHERE ARE WE AT? I TOLD YOU THE COUNTY OR THE CITY HAS, HAS, UH, APPROVED THE CREATION ORDINANCE.
WE SET THE BOUNDARY, THE TERM WE SET ASIDE LANGUAGE IN THE CREATION ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE.
SHOULD YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
SORRY, I CHOKED TO PUT TWO MEMBERS ON THE TURS BOARD.
WE'RE SERVICED BY TWO PRECINCT CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONERS IN COUNTY NORTH AND, UH, IN CRANDALL, NORTH AND SOUTH OF 1 75.
IT WOULD JUST MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD OFFER TWO POSITIONS TO THAT BOARD AND THEY APPROVE THE PRO, UH, PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW THIS MORNING.
NOW, THE FIRST THING THAT WE DO, SHOULD YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE'LL HAVE AN ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING OF THE TERRA BOARD THAT WOULD INCLUDE UP TO TWO OF YOU OR WHOEVER YOU APPOINT.
UH, AND WE'LL CONSIDER THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN AND, UH, AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN.
OKAY? THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I'VE, ABOUT WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT OR ANY COMMENTS? OKAY, SO THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT FOUR.
SO WE GOT THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
SO DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR S***T OR KELLY? IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT KELLY.
IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT S***T, IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
I WANNA BE SURE THAT THE ASK THIS MORNING IS FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WOULD DICTATE A 40% PARTICIPATION FROM THE CASE.
AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
LET'S JUDGE, ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TODAY? NO.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF NO, WE, THEY NEED A PRELIMINARY FEELING AS TO HOW WE ARE, UH, AND THERE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DEPENDENT UPON WE PARTICIPATE OR NOT.
IF WE DO NOT PARTICIPATE, WILL THIS BLOW SOME OF THE DEALS? WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY GONNA MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO, TO ATTRACT BECAUSE THE $71 MILLION TURS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO THE AREA, UH, LIMIT ARE LIMITED BY WHAT THE CITY IS PARTICIPATING.
WE'VE ALREADY, UH, APPROVED A 50% PARTICIPATION RATE GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALSO COLLECTING SALES TAX.
AND THAT'S WHY THE 50 AND THE 40 WE'RE COMPENSATING, WE'RE COMPENSATING ADDITIONAL 10% BECAUSE OF THE SALES TAX COMPONENT.
AND I DO KNOW THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE LARGEST TURS THAT CRANDALL HAS, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, A LOT OF THE OTHER TERMS IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FIVE OTHERS AND THEY'RE ALL RESIDENTIALLY RELATED.
SO YOU'RE, YOU TAKE THE TAX INCREMENT
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AND, AND BUY DOWN THE PIT ASSESSMENTS OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.AND THAT'S THE PREDOMINANT USE OF THE P RESOURCES.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN ANYWAY.
UH, BUT THERE'S NONE OF THAT IN THIS.
THIS IS STRAIGHT PURE RETAIL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND, AND I, AND WE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I KNOW DAVID AND I HAVE, AND, AND I, AND I LIKE THE IDEAL THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING WITH THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, NOT ROOFTOPS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I THINK THIS AIN'T SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE DECISION ON DAY ANYWAY.
I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE STILL HAVE TO SET UP HERE AS A COURT AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA BRING THE TAX RATE DOWN IN THE COMING YEARS.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE A JUVENILE CENTER CENTER'S COMING UP? AND BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE HOLD A 41 CENTS ON A HUNDRED TAX RATE, ELLIS COUNTY'S LIKE 29 CENTS.
AND AS A WHOLE UP HERE, WE HAVE NOT YET COME TOGETHER LIKE, HEY, WHAT'S OUR GAME PLAN OF BRINGING THIS TAX RATE DOWN SO THAT WHEN DEVELOPERS DO WANT TO COME HERE, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY THEM TO COME HERE.
SO THEY COME TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES LIKE ELLIS COUNTY, THEN WITHOUT US GIVING A ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS TO THESE DEVELOPERS TO, TO ENSURE THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL THAT MY PERSONAL MEANING THAT WE AS A COURT NEED TO GET A PLAN TOGETHER TO HOW ARE WE GONNA GET TO THAT SAME OBJECTIVE WHERE WE GET TO BRING THE TAX RATE DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF INCREASING IT OR ADDING TO IT.
SO, UH, ONE THING I DO LIKE ABOUT THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT IS WE ARE VERY OPEN TO ABATEMENTS.
I MEAN, WE HAVE ABATEMENT PROCESS WHERE IF YOU HAVE 10 BUSINESSES THERE, I'M OKAY WITH GIVING ABATEMENTS FOR THESE 10 BUSINESS.
AND, AND THE REASON I LIKE THE ABATEMENTS IS IT'S A 10 YEAR LATER.
WHAT I'M SAYING THAT'S A 10 YEAR.
I MEAN, WE ARE WANTING TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO DISCUSS, WHETHER WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
I'D LOVE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO CONSIDER THE, THE EFFECT YOU COULD HAVE ON PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN NECESSARY TO BRING THE BOXES AND THE GROCERY STORES AND THE RETAIL.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT RAW DIRT, RIGHT? THE, IN THE, THE, UH, INCENTIVES TO BRING AN ATWOODS OR WHOEVER, OR A GROCERY STORE OR TOM THUMB OR WHOEVER COMES AFTER THE FACT.
BUT NOT UNTIL WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PUT IT THERE.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THIS 40% PARTICIPATION IN THE TURFS.
IT'S STRICTLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ONE WAY YOU CAN BRING YOUR TAX RATE DOWN IS TO IMPROVE YOUR TAX BASE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS DOES.
WHEN YOU BRING IN THE BOXES AND THE GROCERY STORES AND THE HOTELS, YOUR TAX BASE GROWS, THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MINIMIZE YOUR TAX RATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
SO I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DON'T MEAN TO INSULT ANYBODY'S INTELLIGENCE
AND THEN SOMETIMES WE, WE HAVE, WE'RE THE MINDSET, WELL, THEY'RE GONNA COME ANYWAY.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN DAILY COMMUNICATIONS ALMOST WITH THESE DEVELOPERS AND THEY'RE WAITING WITH BATED BREATH TO SEE WHAT, HOW MUCH OF A TURS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT LOAN PROJECT.
AND EXPANDING 1 48 NORTH AND, AND SIGNALING THAT INTERSECTION, UH, IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PRO PROCESS.
AND, AND MOST OF US HERE, 1, 2, 3, 4 OF US HERE ARE, HAVE BEEN SELF-EMPLOYED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.
WE KNOW YOU HAVE TO INVEST FOR THE RETURN.
UH, AND IT'S NOT EASY, UH, SOMETIMES TO, TO SEE THE END RESULT.
BUT WE DO KNOW IF YOU DON'T INVEST, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY RETURN.
IF IT IS, IT'S, WE WON'T BE ALIVE TO SEE IT.
IT'S THAT OLD ADAGE OF YOU GOTTA SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY.
AND I, AND YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE VISITED MM-HMM
AND UH, OF COURSE I USED TO BE ON THE EDC AND I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GO.
AND WE WERE ON THE TS BOARD IN 40.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE UP EVERYTHING LIKE SOME HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
WE'RE NOT GOING, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
BECAUSE WE'RE, WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A BEST DEAL FOR THE COUNTY.
BUT WE NEED TO ALSO, WE GOT TAXPAYERS IN, IN THIS WHOLE AREA HERE THAT WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THEM TOO FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
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ACT.WHAT DO WE DO TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED? WELL, THIS INCREMENT ONLY WORKS IF WE CAN ATTRACT THAT INCREMENT.
YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ALL THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO, TO MAKE THEM WORK.
THEY CAN PLUG INTO IT AND OFF WE GO.
AND I DO KNOW, SINCE I LIVE THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE AMENITIES.
'CAUSE THE CITY HAS NEVER HAD THE REFUND THE FUNDS TO DO MUCH WITH.
AND SO THIS IS KINDA LIKE A FIRST STEPPING STONE TO GET THE BIG BOX THERE, WHICH IS OBLIGATED.
PROPERTY'S BEEN BOUGHT BY TWO.
HOME DEPOT, WALMART, THOSE OF OUR, THOSE ARE ON THE WEST, 10 TO 10, 7 41 SIDE.
BUT STILL, TO GET THOSE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME INCENTIVE TO GET 'EM TO MOVE THE LONG RUN, THE INFRASTRUCTURE RUN IN THE LONG RUN.
NOW TO WHAT POINT, UH, THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED.
SO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DECIDE.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GIVING IT ALL UP.
WE'RE ONLY ASKING 40% OF YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, ROAD AND BRIDGE, INS ALL THOSE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS ARE NOT IMPACTED BY PARTICIPATING IN THIS, THIS, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
THOMAS, IN YOUR PRECINCT,
ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE I STAND ON THIS ON THE TURS.
I, I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN MY OFFICE.
TURS HAVE ACTUALLY NOT BENEFITED US IN THE SENSE OF THE COUNTY SIDE OF OUR BUDGETING PROCESSES, WHY WE HAVE SUCH A HIGH TAX RATE WITH THE GROWING CRIME, THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH GROWTH.
UH, EVEN THE SHERIFF STANDING HERE THIS MORNING TELLING US HOW OVERWHELMED OUR DISPATCH CENTER IS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CONSIDERATION.
AND WHENEVER YOU, WE RECEIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TAX DOLLARS FROM A DEVELOPMENT, THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE BACK 50% OF IT BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS SO THEY CAN KEEP DEVELOPING THAT GIVES, WITH THE HOPE OF MONEY 35 YEARS FROM NOW OF A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCEPTANCE, WE NEED MONEY NOW.
ON SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AS HIGH AS 95%, 65%.
WELL, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.
I BUT WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF, I'M NOT COMPARING MYSELF TO ANYBODY ELSE'S TURFS.
UH, IT IT, SO WE LOOK AT IT LIKE WE, WE NEED THE FUNDING NOW, NOT WHEN ALL OF US ARE DEAD AND GONE.
SO MY DEAL IS, IS THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S NOT NOTHING AGAINST YOUR PROJECT AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO FOR CRANDALL.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I WORKED CRANDALL YEARS AGO.
IT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST PLACES TO WORK AND, AND, AND GOOD PEOPLE THERE AND EVERYTHING.
BUT MY DEAL IS, IS I THINK WE, JUST GIVING YOU MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE AS A COURT NEED TO, AND NOT TO DO WITH YOUR TURS HERE, BUT BEFORE ANYTHING'S DECIDED, WE NEED TO GET A PLANNED OURSELVES ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS GET OUT OF WHAT'S BEEN CREATED IN THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS OR SO.
SO, WELL, ONE WAY WE DO IT IS NOT GIVING UP 80, 90%.
IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUS IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE ANYWAY.
BUT THAT'S THE WATER ON THE BRIDGE.
AND I THINK, UH, WE EITHER HAVE FARM LAND, WHICH WE GET FEW DOLLARS ON, OR WE GIVE UP A LITTLE BIT IN RETURN, EVEN FROM YEAR ONE, WE'RE STILL DOLLARS AHEAD OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
BUT IT IS NOT OUR ABATEMENT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE THAT COMES LATER WHEN THE COMPANY'S COME IN AND ABATEMENT'S ONLY GOOD FOR 10 YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE, WE'RE TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE IN A POSITIVE WAY THAT POLICY SEVEN.
BUT THERE AGAIN, WE GOTTA REDO THAT TOO.
ON THE MAYOR, LINDSAY WOULD LIKE TO, OH, I'M SORRY, DAVID.
I, I, I DON'T MEAN TO
UH, I'M GUESSING 'CAUSE HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT EVERY DAY, BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE A POPULATION FEEDING INTO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, 25 TO 28,000 AT THIS POINT.
I MAY BE A LITTLE OFF, I'LL SAY AROUND 25,000.
UM, CREL RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY FIVE TO 6,000 PEOPLE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, USING THOSE PERCENTAGES, UH, OUR OUR KIDS IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS, NOT, NOT CITY RESIDENTS.
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OUT THIS WOULD, UH, NOT JUST BENEFIT THE CITY, UH, OR, OR JUST CITY RESIDENTS.I KNOW MIKE TALKED ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT OUR SCHOOLS COULD RECEIVE, UH, UNDERSTAND MOST OF THAT REVENUE, MOST OF THAT BENEFIT WOULD GO TO KIDS IN THE COUNTY JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS CONSTITUTING MAJORITY OF OUR, OUR ISD AT THIS POINT.
UM, I, AND THEN THE OTHER THING, UM, AS Y'ALL ARE TALKING, AND I'M, I'M A BANKER.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW TOMMY, YOU HAD MENTIONED NOT NOT REALLY WANTING TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU WANTING TO DISCUSS THIS AND REALLY WORK THROUGH THIS.
UM, I JUST WANNA ASK THE QUESTION, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL? ONE THING WE'VE DONE, UH, FOR EVERY TURS WE'VE HAD, BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP, WE HAVE GROWTH AND WE HAVE ISSUES THAT TAKE MONEY TO RESOLVE.
AND IF WE'RE GIVING MONEY AWAY, THEN WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE.
UH, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.
AND WE CAN'T GIVE IT ALL BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS.
UH, WE HAVE USED OUR, UH, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, UH, FOR EVERY TURS I'VE ASKED HIM TO MAKE SURE FINANCIALLY IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
THAT, THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS, IT BECOMES BLACK AND WHITE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS AS MUCH.
UM, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL FROM, AND I, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MIKE AND OUR CITY MANAGER BEHIND ME, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE CAN PRODUCE A MODEL OF HOW THIS TURS WOULD AFFECT COUNTY REVENUE, UH, HOW WOULD IT, HOW WOULD IT IMPACT YOU GUYS FROM A STANDPOINT OF ARE YOU GAINING REVENUE TO MEET THE NEEDS YOU HAVE? OR IS IT GONNA BE A BURDEN? IS IT GONNA BE A COST? UM, AND I THINK, I THINK, AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE CAN GET IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING FINANCES, BLACK AND WHITE.
IF WE CAN SHOW THAT IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FINANCIALLY TO THE COUNTY, THAT 40% YOU'RE GIVING UP, YOU'RE GONNA GET BACK.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU BEFORE Y'ALL MAKE A FINAL DECISION, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN.
NO, I THINK THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
HOW, HOW SOON WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR MR. MAYOR? I'VE GOT THAT MODEL'S PUTTING IT UP RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY I THINK THAT'S INFORMATION YOU GUYS NEED TO KNOW TO MAKE IT, WE NEED A HARD COPY 'CAUSE WE CAN'T SEE THAT.
OH, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON YOUR MOM FAULT, IS IT? IT'S A SMALL, I CAN'T READ IT.
WELL WE CAN, AND I, I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO HIM.
BUT WE, WE WANT TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION.
WE WANT Y'ALL TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
I CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT HARD COPY FOR YOU, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST TALK THROUGH THE MODEL.
AND IT SHOULD INDICATE I'VE ASKED LAURA TO PULL THAT FILE UP.
HAVE YOU GOT IT, LAURA? I'M SORRY.
OH, THE ONLY WHILE WE'RE WAITING, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS THE QUICKER WE GET THIS TURS IN PLACE AND THE FINAL PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, THE QUICKER THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN ON 1 48 NORTH, THE QUICKER WE START PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY.
UM, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THIS AND, AND I'LL COME UP HERE ANYTIME YOU WANT ME TO, TO, TO TALK THROUGH IT.
LET ME GET OVER HERE SO I CAN READ IT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SALES TAX ANALYSIS BASED ONT SIX, BUT IT INCLUDES PROPERTY TAX PLUS SALES TAX.
SO THE TOTAL TAX REVENUE IF YOU COME DOWN TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, IS 46 MILLION 5 65.
CALCULATOR 9 46 IS THAT NUMBER.
IN ADDITION, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE IS ANOTHER 11 AND A HALF MILLION, ASSUMING YOU PARTICIPATE.
THE NET BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND THE ROAD, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE IS 28 WAS 11 AND A HALF.
SO 28 YOU WOULD RECEIVE $39 MILLION, ASSUMING ALL OF THAT GOT BUILT OUT.
AND I'M, I'M STANDING HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I'VE GOT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BRINGING IN THE TOM THUMBS OF THE WORLD AND SEVERAL PADS IN FRONT.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'VE GOT YOU FOLKS WHO KNOW OF CRANDALL, THE RIZZO PROPERTY, 162 ACRES PLUS THE THE EDC 27 ACRES, WHICH IS MOSTLY IN, UH, COMMISSIONER MOORE'S, UH, PRECINCT.
THAT LAST COMMENT, UH, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
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WE'RE MEETING NEXT WEEK.EVERY ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPERS IS COMING AROUND THE TABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE READY.
I KNOW THE HOTEL DEVELOPER IS CHOMPING AT THE BID AND WE'VE GOT A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, EDC BOARD AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THAT WOULD DICTATE HOW THEY CAN BUILD AND WHAT THEY CAN BUILD, AND A TIMEFRAME FROM WHICH THEY CAN BUILD.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT JUST SITS THERE WITH A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT DOESN'T EVER GET DONE.
WE ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT GETTING THIS STUFF BUILT.
THE QUICKER WE CAN GET ALL OF THIS TAKEN CARE OF, THE QUICKER WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN BE BACK AND TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT TUESDAY.
WELL, I THINK WE AS A COURT NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
LIKE HAVE OUR OWN MEETING ON OUR GAME PLAN.
'CAUSE LIKE ON THIS HERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 35, THAT GIVES YOU A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
IF YOU WAS PAID OUT A MILLION THE FIRST YEAR, YOU WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE IT'S DIRT.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10 YEARS FULLY DEVELOPED.
HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD THE COUNTY WOULD BE PULLING IN AT THE 10 YEAR MARK.
WHICH IS UNKNOWN BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT BUSINESSES ARE COMING HERE.
SO YOU'RE JUST TAKING A GUESS.
ALL WE'VE GOT IS NOT INDIVIDUAL.
YOU'RE TAKING A GUESS THAT IN 10 YEARS THIS IS WHAT KIND OF MONEY'S COMING IN MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, UH, ONCE IT'S FULLY BUILT OUT WITH THE NEEDS OF THE GROWING OF WILDCAT RANCH, ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THERE, THE, THE LOAD THAT'S ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE LOAD THAT'S ON OUR, UH, UH, ALL OF OUR STRUCTURE, THE COURTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS IF WE'RE, IF SAY IT, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS BRINGING IN A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR THAT DON'T COVER THE COST OF THE GROWTH ITSELF WHEN IT COMES TO PAYING ATTORNEYS, DEPUTIES EQUIPMENT.
I MEAN, STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH.
SO WE, WE AS A COURT NEED TO NOT LOOK AT THE DREAM SHEET OF WHAT COULD BE THERE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT US IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS AS HOW ARE WE GONNA KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH AND BRING THE TAX RATE DOWN AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
WELL, ONLY THAT LY WE KNOW WHAT IT IT'S NOT BRINGING IN TODAY.
IF IT STAYS DIRT, WE KNOW IT'S NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING.
AND HERE'S PEOPLE, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT.
THE FACT IS IN THE COMMERCIAL, BUT THEY'RE, THE FACT IS THE IMPACT IS ON THE CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S NOT ON THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE ANNEXED.
THEY ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SAY WHEN WHEN THE CRANDALL OFFICER ARRESTS SOMEONE, THEY GO TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
DIDN'T THEY BECOME TO THE COUNTY? OH, I I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT AN IMPACT.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT, HE'S NOT GOING, UH, I'M NOT GONNA TELL THE SHERIFF WHAT HE NEEDS, BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO, IT AIN'T TO BRING YOU BACK NEXT WEEK TO HAVE, I THINK WE AS A COURT NEED TO SET OUR OWN AGENDA, JUDGE TO DISCUSS WHAT IS OUR GOAL GOING FORWARD.
WELL, WE KNOW AND BRING OUR TAX RATE NEEDS TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE IS OUR GOAL HOW WE GET THERE.
BY HAVING VACANT DIRT WON'T GET US THERE.
BUT WE HAVE ALL THESE TURS RIGHT NOW THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE THAT ARE, NOTHING'S BEING DONE.
EVEN THE TURS THAT'S IN CRANDALL, IT'S JUST SITTING THERE NOT MOVING.
AND WE ARE ALREADY CONTRIBUTING TO THAT.
SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE OTHER TURS IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SHOULDN'T CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO THE DIRT.
SO WITH GOING TO THIS TURS, IMMEDIATELY WE'RE GONNA START GIVING YOU 40% BACK ON THE TAX, NOT UNTIL THEY'RE TAXED ON IT.
AND, AND WE ARE IN A POSITION TO START PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
WE'RE TAKING A 12 INCH WATER LINE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE THE YEAH, BUT IT'S, IT IS NOT BRINGING ANY, IT IS NOT CHANGING.
NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT BRINGS THEM HERE IS THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE.
NO, THEY, US IT KIND OF REVERSES FOR US FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE LOSE MONEY FOR A FEW YEARS.
IT'S AN INVESTMENT COMMISSIONER.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE AN INVESTMENT BUSINESS.
WELL, FOR THE COUNTY, YOU ARE JUST LIKE CITIES SPEND MONEY AS AN INVESTMENT TO GROW THEIR CITIES.
I'VE BEEN WORKING AS THE EDC DIRECTOR FOR OVER, FOR 14 MONTHS NOW.
I HAVE NOT DONE ONE RECRUITING EFFORT BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE TAKING A NUMBER TO COME THROUGH MY DOOR TO BE IN.
THEY WANT A CRANDALL PRESENCE.
GETTING THEM HERE IS NOT A PROBLEM.
GETTING THEM HERE WITH THE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PARTICIPATE.
THEY'RE SITTING THERE WAITING WITH BAIT OF BREATH TO GET BUSY.
WHAT I WILL DO, I WILL SET UP A
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WORKSHOP FOR NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL DISCUSS THIS SO YOU GET YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW, YOUR QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL HASH IT OUT.WE WON'T KEEP YOU OUTTA THE DOOR.
SO YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA JUST TABLE THIS YEAH.
WE'LL TABLE THIS FOR TODAY AND WE'LL WORKSHOP IT NEXT WEEK.
WE'LL HAVE A DECISION AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON THE TABLE? I'M GONNA GET THERE AND I'M WAITING FOR ANY MORE COMMENTS.
I'M GOING TO THROW ONE MORE COMMENT IN THERE.
MY PERSPECTIVE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU FOUR GENTLEMEN.
MY IS CONSIDERING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE ON THIS BENCH AND WHAT OUR FUTURE GOAL IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET OF THIS COUNTY.
SO IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU GUYS.
SO I LIKE ALL OF YOU, BUT WE HAVE TO GET OUR SITUATION SET HERE AS WELL.
SO I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL JANUARY THE SIXTH OF NEXT YEAR FOR A WORKSHOP.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ASHLEY, WILL YOU GET THAT? PARDON? THANK YOU.
[4. Sheriff Beavers: Discuss/Consider/Approve an lnterlocal Cooperation Agreement between Kaufman County, Texas and Freestone County, Texas.]
BEAVER IS DISCUSSED.CONSIDER AN APPROVED THEIR LOCAL CORPORATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND FREESTONE COUNTY, TEXAS.
AS YOU SEE, I'VE GOT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS.
WE'VE RUN IT THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE.
IT'S OUR STANDARD, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE USE FOR HOUSING INMATES.
UH, SHERIFF SCHIFFLEY OVER IN PRESO COUNTY HAS BEEN A GOOD, UH, UH, SHERIFF THAT WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER AND WHICH HE HAS A VERY MUCH SMALLER JAIL AND HE'S IN A BIND.
HE'S GOT QUITE A FEW INMATES AND HE'S FIXED FOLLOWING THE VIOLATION OF JAIL STANDARDS.
SO HE REACHED OUT TO ME, HE'S GOT OTHER JAILS OVER THERE THAT CAN'T TAKE MORE.
SO I REACHED OUT TO HIM, TOLD HIM I'D I'D HELP HIM OUT.
SO THEY'RE PAYING THE SAME RATE AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS PAYING THE US MARSHAL.
SO WE'RE GOING AHEAD AND TAKE, WE'RE TAKING ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 12 JUST TO HELP HIM OUT.
SO I WOULD ASK Y'ALL TO LOOK AT THIS AND HELP, HELP FREE STOKE COUNTY OUT.
THEY'VE HELPED US BEFORE, WAY BEFORE WE GOT A NEW JAIL AND HOUSING INMATES.
SO IF WE CAN HELP THEM, I'D BE GRACIOUS.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THEIR COURTS.
THEY'VE APPROVED EVERYTHING, SO THEY'RE FINALIZING EVERYTHING TO US.
AND YOU AND I VISITED ABOUT IT EARLIER.
MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
[5. Tandi Smith: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Elections Administrator to enter a Joint Contract with the Kaufman County Democratic and Republican Parties, for the purpose of conducting the Primary 2026 elections in accordance to Chapter 172 of the Texas Election Code.]
CELESTE TANDY IS OUT TODAY.SO CELESTE IS GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, APPROVING THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER TO A JOINT CONTRACT WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING THE PRIMARY 26 ELECTIONS IN THE TAR ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 1 72.
UM, YES, WE HAD BOTH PARTIES ALREADY LOOK AT THE CONTRACT.
THIS IS JUST TO APPROVE AND START WITH THE PRIMARIES COMING UP.
WE ALREADY HAVE LOCATIONS SET.
UM, OUR APPROVED FOR THE BALLOT IS ALMOST DONE.
WE'RE WAITING ON A FEW THINGS AND WE'RE JUST GETTING READY TO START WITH THE NEW YEAR.
Y'ALL HAD TIME? BILL, THIS IS STANDARD.
I THINK IT'S A STANDARD CONTRACT.
YES, IT'S A STANDARD CONTRACT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR CELESTE? NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER, UH,
[6. Commissioner Lane: Discuss/Consider/Approve the abandonment of 11827 FM Rd 1393, Terrell, TX: Property ID: 29904, 30019, 30021 and 30027 street and alleyway located in what used to be the town of Lawrence.]
A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER SIX.MR. LA MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES SECOND.
[7. Commissioner Crow: Discuss/Consider/Recommend the appointment of all Emergency Service District (ESD) Board Members for ESD #1; Robert Fair 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Michael Wilson 1 year term January 1- December 31, 2026, Shelia Gillespie 2 year term January 1 2026- December 31, 2027, Debbie Wagner 2 year term January 1 2026-December 31, 2027, Dustin Talent 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027.]
WE'RE NOW DOWN TO OUR ESDS MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET THROUGH THIS, BUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED, EACH COMMISSIONER WILL PRESENT, UH, WHO THEY HAVE SELECTED.HOWEVER, THERE ARE THREE IN OUR ESDS ARE THREE PRECINCTS THAT HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST YEAR.
SOME HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, NOT VERY EASILY, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
SOME ARE STILL ONGOING AND SOMETIMES THESE GET INTO PERSONALITY CONFLICTS.
WE'RE NOT HERE ABOUT PERSONALITIES.
WE'RE HERE TO GET A JOB DONE AND MAKE EVERYONE WORK TOGETHER.
AND SO, UH, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THREE OF THESE CONFLICTS AND THEY'RE NOT EASY.
SO, AND SOME FOLKS MAY NOT BE REAPPOINTED AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE NATURE OF BUSINESS IS.
AND THIS IS STRICTLY BUSINESS.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL IT IS THAT, ANYWAY, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH LIKE ALWAYS COMMISSIONER, 1, 2, 3, 4,
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AND SO NUMBER ONE, LIKE SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW ALL THE TIME, YOU'RE ALWAYS ON THE FRONT ROW.
DISCUSS, CONSIDERING, RECOMMEND THE APPOINTMENT OF ALL ESD DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS FOR NUMBER ONE ESD ONE.
UH, AND THERE'S TWO THAT, HOLD ON, LET ME GET MY LIST HERE.
THERE'S USUALLY TWO UP FOR EACH ESD THIS TIME.
THEY'RE TWO YEAR TERMS. AND FOR COMMISSIONER CROW, WE HAVE SHEILA GILLESPIE AND DEBBIE WAGNER.
ANY ISSUES OR ANYTHING WHATSOEVER? NO.
SO YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION FOR THOSE TWO PEOPLE TO SERVE A TWO YEAR TERM? YES SIR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
A A MOTION CARRIES COMMISSIONER
[8. Commissioner Phillips: Discuss/Consider/Recommend the appointment of all Emergency Service District (ESD) Board Members for ESD #6; Rick Barnes 2 year term January 1 2026- December 31, 2027, Bradley Lewis 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027, Sandra Yeats Taylor 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027, Robert Schleback 1 year term January 1-0ecember 31, 2026, Mack Duncan 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026.]
PHILLIPS, THE ASSESS CONSIDERED AND RECOMMEND THE APPOINTMENT OF ALL THE SD DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS FOR SD SIX, RICK BARNES, TWO YEAR TERM BRADLEY LEWIS, A TWO YEAR TERM.THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAD SOME ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEAR AND THEY HAVE NOW BEEN RESOLVED, BUT IT'S TIME FOR, UH, UH, NEW MEMBERS.
SO WHAT'S YOUR FLAVOR? YEAH, WE WE'RE RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO MEAN OUR DISCUSSION.
AND, AND OH, I, BRAD LEWIS WILL BE, OH, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THAT ONE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
A MOTION CARRIES MR. LANE ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAD SOME, UH, ISSUES.
WE HAD TO GET THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVOLVED, UH, WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND WITH, UH, MR. HUEY AND MYSELF.
UH, TOOK SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET IT DONE, BUT IT WAS DONE AND
[9. Commissioner Lane: Discuss/Consider/Recommend the appointment of all Emergency Service District (ESD) Board Members for ESD #3; Scott Boyd 2 year term January 1 2026-December 31, 2027, Stan Hamm 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027, Chuck Carpenter 1 year term, January 1-December 31, 2026, Denny Oats 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Tommy Brockway 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026.]
SO ON.NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND RECOMMEND THE APPOINTMENT OF ALL THE SD BOARD MEMBERS FOR A SD NUMBER THREE.
WE HAVE SCOTT BOYD FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
AND STAN HAM FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
[10. Commissioner Moore: Discuss/Consider/Recommend the appointment of all Emergency Service District (ESD) Board Members for ESD #2; Steve Stedman 2 year term January 1, 2026-December 31, 2027, Dustin Clark 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Howard Jones 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Keith Nolen 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027, John Loar 2 year term January 1, 2026-December 31, 2027. Board members for ESD #4 Robert Emfinger 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027, David Williams 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Robin Reedy 2 year term January 1 2026-December 31, 2027, Jud Lewis 1 year term January 1, December 31, 2026, Jim Burk 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Board members for ESD #5 Michael Covington 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, David Campbell 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026 Jonathan Leyva 2 year term January 1, 2026-December 31, 2027, Stuart Andrus 2 year term January 1, 2026- December 31, 2027, Mark Gray 2 year term January 1, 2026-December 31, 2027, Board members for ESD #7, Kevin Johnson 2 year term January 1 2026-December 31, 2027, Ashley Hunsaker 2 year term January 1, 2026-December 31, 2027, Joseph Reese 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Oliver Ralws 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026, Melissa Smith 1 year term January 1-December 31, 2026.]
HE'S GOT MORE THAN ONE IN HIS PRECINCT.WE'LL TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME.
DISCUSS, CONSIDER TO RECOMMEND THE APPOINTMENT OF ALL THE SD BOARD MEMBERS FOR SD TWO.
WE HAVE STEVE STEADMAN A TWO YEAR TERM.
I DID MARK THESE BEFORE I GOT HERE.
AND IS THAT KEITH NOLAN FOR A TWO YEAR TERM? YEAH.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT TO PULL UP.
SHOULD BE ON YOUR AGENDA THERE.
IT'S LAURA, CAN YOU SCROLL UP PLEASE? ON THE, YOU GOT IT.
HERE'S A HARD COPY IF YOU NEED A HARD COPY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
THE, YOU TALKING ABOUT ESD TWO SO FAR, UH, ALL ESD MEMBERS ARE CURRENTLY ON THERE.
SOME OF 'EM HAS BEEN, UH, NEW ONES THAT JOINED WHEN OTHER ONE'S RESIGNED AND, UH, THEY ALL GIVE RESIGNATION LETTERS AND NEW ONES ARE IN PLACE AND THEY'RE ALL HAPPY WITH EACH OTHER.
NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE ON THOSE.
WE HAVE ROBERT INFINGER TWO YEAR TERM AND ROBIN REEDY FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
NO, EVERYBODY'S NO COMPLAINTS THERE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT THE SAME.
DOES IT NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
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ESD FIVE.UH, HOLD ON, LET ME CALL OFF THE NAMES.
IS THAT EVA? EVA AND STEWART ANDRES.
EVERYTHING'S GOOD WITH THEM AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND THEY'RE GONNA REMAIN THE SAME.
NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WHERE DID I MISS DUSTIN? TALL.
SO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND ADD DUSTIN TALENT TO SD ONE.
YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THAT.
WE HAVE RECOMMENDED KEVIN JOHNSON AND ASHLEY HUNSAKER.
SO BEFORE WE VOTE, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE HAVE, UH, DAVID LINDSAY AND DANNY KIRBY.
UM, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT, WHAT THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY SAID.
WE, AS YOU'VE HEARD WITH THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION ON THE TURS, WE ARE GROWING AS WE ALL ARE.
UH, AND, UH, IT IS IMPERATIVE, I THINK FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN OUR COUNTY TO WORK TOGETHER.
UH, WE, WE, UH, WE ALL DO BETTER WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER.
AND SO I KNOW FOR OUR, OUR CITY, UH, WE HAVE TRIED TO WORK WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP THERE.
UH, I HOPE WE'VE GOT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, UH, BECAUSE WE DO REALIZE THE CITY CAN'T, UH, DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO BY ITSELF WITHOUT WORKING WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, WITHOUT WORKING WITH OUR ESD WITHOUT WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT, UH, BOARDS AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONS THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND SO, UH, JUDGE ALLEN, YOU HAD ALLUDED TO SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH, WITH SOME OF THE ESDS.
UH, WE HAVE HAD OUR OWN, UH, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO STRESS, UH, TO, TO THE COMMISSION HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE MEMBERS ON THESE BOARDS THAT ARE LOOKING TO WORK WITH THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COUNCILS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
UH, WE, WE WILL ALL RISE AND FALL TOGETHER ON SOME, SOME RESPECT.
AND SO AS, AS YOU ARE, UH, MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON WHO TO, WHO IS TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS, UH, I JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD, UH, BE MINDFUL OF WHO, UH, UH, WHO WILL WORK WITH OTHERS.
WE, WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR ESD, UH, AND I'M HOPEFUL THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE WORK TOGETHER.
AND, UH, AND JUST TO BE HONEST, WE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, WE HAVE HAD SOME FRICTION.
UH, AND, AND FOR US, AGAIN, TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW OUR ESD HAS, UH, HAD A VOTE IN 2023, UH, TO RECEIVE SALES TAX.
UH, THEY ARE A SALES TAX ENTITY.
UH, SO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW THAT WE ANNEX IN, EVEN IF IT BECOMES PART OF THE CITY, UH, OUR ESD WOULD CONTINUE TO RECEIVE SALES TAX.
AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHALLENGE THAT IS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TERMS AND THE IMPACT SALES TAX WOULD HAVE ON OUR SCHOOLS IN DIFFERENT AREAS, UH, THE CITY, WE HAVE JUDGE, YOU LIVE IN OUR CITY, YOU SEE THE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED, THE DRAINAGE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THE NEEDS WE HAVE.
AND INSTEAD OF HAVING IT ON THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS, WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, INCENTIVIZE AND BRING IN COMMERCIAL, UH, SO WE CAN HAVE SALES TAX REVENUE TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS.
WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR ESD RIGHT NOW TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON HOW TO SPLIT THAT SALES TAX.
BUT, UH, BUT AGAIN, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
UH, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND WE NEED AN ESD THAT'S WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU, UH, MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ARE THESE PEOPLE THE COMMISSIONER IS RECOMMENDING TO WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE TO STAY? IS IT GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL OR NOT BENEFICIAL FOR THIS, FOR THE BOTH ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT NOW? AND, AND, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED IT, AND I'M GONNA ABIDE BY IT.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT UP HERE TO THROW ANYBODY INTO THE BUS.
UM, I WILL SAY THUS FAR, UH, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AN ELECTION THAT, UH, THAT THAT WAS, WAS FINE, BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE A LOT OF ADVANCED NOTICE.
UM, AND WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE SALES TAX, UH, ELECTION THAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE WERE EVER NOTIFIED THE CITY, UH, OF THAT.
AND SO THERE'S BEEN SOME MISCOMMUNICATION.
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UH, AND THEN AS WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THESE THINGS, UH, THERE HAS BEEN SOME, UH, I'LL SAY DIFFERENT VISIONAND SO, UH, AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
UM, I I, I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY DO OR DO NOT APPOINT SOMEBODY, BUT, UH, I, I APPRECIATE THE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT SERVE CRANDALL HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL MEETINGS AND, AND THEY'RE NOT COMING INTO THIS BLIND.
SO I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER MOORE AND CROW FOR ATTENDING THOSE.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALSO DONE THEIR HOMEWORK AND, AND JUST SEEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DEALT WITH.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH ANYBODY AND SO IF THE PEOPLE ARE REAPPOINTED, I WANT TO WORK WITH THEM.
WE, WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS, UH, BECAUSE OF, OF THE PAST.
CAN WE WORK TOGETHER? UM, I HOPE WE CAN, BUT, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN.
UH, AND SO AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS, BUT, UH, I WANNA REITERATE HOW IMPERATIVE IT IS FOR FIRE SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR ESD AND FOR THEM TO WANT TO WORK WITH US.
UH, WE'RE NOT IN OUR OWN SILOS.
AND, UH, UH, PERSONALLY THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE WITH, WITH SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE ESD, NOT THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS, STATING FACTS.
UH, NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T RIDE THE SHIP, UM, BUT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND HONEST, UH, THAT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'LL SAY.
DAVID, YOU, UH, I FORGOT THAT WE KNOW WHO YOU'RE, WHAT, WHAT POSITION YOU HOLD, BUT NAME AND ADDRESS.
1 1 8 TEJAS TRAIL, CRANDALL, TEXAS 7 5 1 1 4.
DANNY, IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
DANNY KIRBY, 1 25 BUFFALO CREEK, CRANDALL, TEXAS.
AND WE'LL KIND OF JUST PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF DAVID.
I WAS PREVIOUS MAYOR PRIOR TO DAVID AND WAS WORKING WITH ESD.
WE HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL, EVER.
I MEAN, IT WAS BEEN SMOOTH, SMOOTH, SMOOTH UP UNTIL THE NEW BOARD HAS BEEN ELECTED.
WE'VE HAD, AS DAVID SAID, SOME CHALLENGES AS WE'VE GONE ALONG WITH THIS NEW BOARD.
I, TOMMY I THINK YOU'VE SAID YOU'VE DONE SOME HOMEWORK.
I HOPE YOU'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE FIREMEN AS WELL.
AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT BOARD EITHER AS WELL.
SO IS, IS IT, DO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH EACH ENTITY? THAT'S WITHIN OUR, OUR GRASP AS THE SD SEVEN.
AND I DON'T THINK TODAY THAT IS WORKING.
AS DAVID SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF TRY TO SLIP SOMETHING IN RIGHT THERE AT THE END ON THE ANNEXING OF CRANDALL, WHICH WASN'T RIGHT.
AND ALL WE TALK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA SUE IF WE DON'T GET OUR WAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR TOYS AND GO HOME.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU'RE GONNA WORK WITH ANY ENTITY WITH THE COUNTY.
ESD YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA WORK TOGETHER.
AND I'VE HEARD CHALLENGES FROM EACH ONE OF YOU.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR BOARDS AND YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO WORK WITH YOUR BOARDS WITHIN THAT SAME GROUP.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT KNOWING SOMEBODY UNDER A BUS.
I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER MEMBERS AT THIS POINT.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE RAM, BUT WHO ELSE IS WANTING IN OUR COUNTY WHO'S WANTING TO SERVE AS WELL? SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.
AND WHAT, AND TOMMY, I HOPE YOU'VE MET WITH THEM OTHERS.
'CAUSE AS OF LAST NIGHT YOU HAVEN'T, SO I JUST HOPE YOU MET WITH THE OTHER.
WHICH ONE'S THAT? THE WHO'S THAT SIR? HERSCHEL WALKER BEING ONE.
NO, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT HAS APPLIED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TALKED TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS APPLIED, SO I DON'T KNOW.
I'VE ONLY TALKED TO ONE OF THEM.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST, MY 2 CENTS.
I JUST THINK WE'VE GOTTA LEARN HOW THIS CITY AND HOW THE SD IS GONNA WORK TOGETHER THAT WE DID IN THE PAST.
AND TODAY THAT'S NOT BEING DONE.
AND THAT'S THE LEADERSHIP OF THAT ESD.
SO WE HAVE, WE'VE RESOLVED ALL THE ISSUES AND OTHER ESDS, BUT NOT THIS ONE.
YOU SAID THIS LIKE THE MAIN EVENT, RIGHT? AT THE END OF THE TIME EVENT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL HERE HERE'S ME AND COMMISSIONER CROW WENT OUT AND VISIT, UH, TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, LAST OR TWO WEEKS AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME EVEN HEARD THERE WAS AN ISSUE BETWEEN CRANDALL AND ESD SEVEN.
I'VE BEEN HERE THREE YEARS AND IT'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM BEFOREHAND.
BUT THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS WERE HERE THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO OF COURSE I GET INVITED TO A MEETING.
WE GET TO VISIT AND FIND OUT THE CONCERNS FROM THE CITY SIDE.
AND THIS, IT IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THE ESD BOARD, I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THEM.
SO I'M NOT GONNA SIT THERE AND JUST TAKE ONE SIDE OF A STORY AND NOT GO VISIT THE OTHER.
SO I WENT AND MET WITH ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE ESD, UH, FOUND OUT THAT THERE ARE
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SOME STRONG, UH, PERSONALITIES ON THE CITY SIDE.AND THERE'S ALSO STRONG PERSONALITIES ON THE ESD SIDE.
OKAY? UH, BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY, UH, DEDICATED TO THEIR SYSTEM.
AND THE STATE LAW SAYS ON THE, WHEN IT COMES TO SALES TAX, STATE LAW SAYS WHOEVER GETS IT FIRST.
SO IF A ESD DID THE ELECTION AND THE PEOPLES VOTED IT IN AND THEY SAY YOU GET THE 2 CENTS, THEY GET THE 2 CENTS.
NOW A CITY, THERE IS A STATUTE WHERE THE CITIES CAN ANNEX INTO A ESD ZONE AND DE ANNEX THAT E ESS D ZONE OUT.
BUT WE DON'T NEED TO LET, DON'T GO THERE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS NONE OF THIS COME UP UNTIL THE TURS COME ALONG.
OKAY? SO THERE'S A PORTION OF THE TURS THAT'S IN THE ESD ZONE THAT UH, HEY, WE WANT TO TAKE OUT OF THE 2 CENTS DRAWN, WE WANT A PENNY AND A HALF OR WHATEVER, AND YOU KEEP HALF A PENNY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ESDS VIEWPOINT IS THIS, Y'ALL, WE ARE A DONUT AROUND CRANDALL.
CRANDALL DIDN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ESD AND DID NOT WANT TO GIVE TO THE ESD AND BE A PART OF IT, BUT YOU WANT TO TAKE OUR CENT IN A HALF.
SO THERE'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FIGHT IS BREWING HERE BASED ON THE BASIC STRUCTURE.
SO OF COURSE, BEING THAT THEY CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT, IT'S LIKE WE GET APPROACHED, COMMISSIONER CROW CAN SPEAK FOR HIS SELF.
THEY NEED TO GO AND WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE HERE THAT'LL TAKE THEIR PLACE AT THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, AIN'T GONNA SAY NECESSARILY RECRUIT IT, BUT THEY FOUND TO APPLY WITH US THAT WOULD VOTE IN A FAVOR OF THE DELAY.
SO I ETHICALLY CANNOT DO THAT.
NOW IF WE WANT TO DELAY THIS A YEAR, 'CAUSE SOME MORE OF THESE PEOPLE COME UP TO VOTE IN A YEAR, UH, AND FIND PEOPLE THAT TRULY WANNA SERVE ON THIS BOARD.
UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS SHOWED UP, ACTUALLY WANTED TO, PEOPLE THAT APPLIED DID SHOW UP TO THE THING AND HE WANTED TO SPEAK, RIGHT? SO HE GETS UP THERE AND SPEAKS AND WELL, DON'T YOU WAIT TILL THE AGENDA.
AND THE FIRST THING HE SAID WAS, Y'ALL NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT PENNY AND A HALF THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I'M SITTING THERE JUST WATCHING, OBSERVING.
AND THEN THOSE CORRECTIONS WERE MADE AT THE END OF THE MEETING, LIKE WHY AND ALL THAT.
AND THAT PERSON WAS LIKE, OH, OKAY.
SO I THINK WITH THE HEATED DEBATE RIGHT NOW WITH THE, THE UPSET PEOPLE AT CRANDALL, THE ESD, THE UPSET PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, I THINK REPLACING THEM WOULD BE NOT JUSTICE TO THEIR PURPOSE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY'VE BEEN PUT ON THAT BOARD TO DO.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE CANDIDATES WAS GATHERED, UH, UH, ONE OF THE COMMENTS, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T TALK TO ANY OF 'EM.
NO, I, I DON'T REALLY WANT, I WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP AND SAY, I WANNA SERVE ON THIS BOARD FOR A PURPOSE OF REALLY SERVING THAT BOARD.
NOT, I NEED TO BE ON HERE FOR WHATEVER SOMEBODY TOLD ME TO BE HERE FOR.
SO I DON'T LIKE THE, THE WAY THIS COME ABOUT.
AND THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THAT WE, WE NEED A COOL DOWN PERIOD HERE, WHETHER IT'S A YEAR OR NOT.
OKAY? LEXIS ARE COMING BACK UP NEXT YEAR TO WHERE COMMISSIONER CROW AND I DECIDED WE'D SIT DOWN WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THE PIECE IS KEPT HERE.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME STRONG PERSONALITIES.
UH, BUT WHEN I MET WITH THE ESD BOARD INDIVIDUALLY, THEY ALL LIKE EACH OTHER.
THEY ALL ARE ON THE SAME GAME PAGE.
THE FIREMEN ARE OKAY WITH THE SD BOARD, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SPLIT THERE.
YOU HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS AND YOU HAVE SOME FULL-TIME PATENTS.
OF COURSE THE FULL-TIME PAID ONES LOVE THE SD AND SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS DON'T LIKE 'EM.
SO IT'S, THIS IS JUST A BIG MESS IS WHAT IT IS IN MY OPINION.
AND I REALLY DON'T THINK REPLACING PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CHAOTIC MESS IS THE ETHICAL THING TO DO.
SO I SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT PEOPLE HERE, GIVE THIS ONE YEAR COOL DOWN PERIOD.
AND IF WE CAN'T GET ANYWHERE THROUGH COMMISSIONER CROW AND I BEING A PART OF THIS, THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS, THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE.
WE WILL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
SO, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR TO DO THE ADJUSTMENTS AND YOU DON'T.
BUT I THINK, UH, IT IS JUST THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
COMMISSIONER CROW AND WE COULD LEAVE IT WHERE WE DON'T APPOINT ANYONE FOR THOSE TWO AND THEY RUN WITH THE THREE.
YEAH, BUT WHAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TOO.
BUT SO I'M JUST SAYING IF WE DON'T COME TO SOME RESOLUTION OR WE DON'T APPOINT UNTIL THEY GET THEIR SITUATION WORKED OUT, IF THEN THE, THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY LIKE THEY ARE THEN LEAVE 'EM LIKE THEY ARE.
BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'VE RESOLVED ANYTHING HERE.
IT IT IS BOTH SIDES OF THE PROBLEM.
JUDGE, THAT'S WHAT I THINKING.
I PROMISE YOU NOTHING THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED.
SO HOW DO YOU RESOLVE AN ISSUE WHERE THERE'S NO RESOLUTION? I THINK THE, THE, I THINK THE ESD BOARD IS DOING THEIR JOB.
WHAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE DOING IS RIGHT AS AN INDEPENDENT, UH, UH, GROUP
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THAT ARE IN COHESION WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY BELIEVE IN, IN WHAT THEIR, THEIR PURPOSE IS.YOU HAVE THE CITY THAT BELIEVES IN THEIR PURPOSE AND WHAT THEY DO AND THEY DO IT WELL TOO.
SO YOU HAVE TWO POWERS CLASHING.
HERE IS WHAT YOU GOT, BUT PUNISHING ONE
I'M NOT PUNISHING, I'M NOT PUNISHING, I DON'T THINK IT'S ETHICAL.
UH, SINCE I DO LIVE THERE AND I DO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THERE, IF THIS THING HAD PASSED, IT WOULD HIT ME WITH ANOTHER 10 CENTS PER HUNDRED ON MY TAXES.
BUT WHAT THAT, WHAT WOULD'VE THAT BEEN FOR THOUGH? IF THEY HAD VOTED IN THE ESD HAD WON THEIR DEAL? THAT WAS, I'M SAYING THAT'S THE PERSONAL MONEY OUTTA MY POCKET PLUS OUR EVERY CITIZEN IN THE CITY LIMITS, IT WOULD'VE HIT THEM ALSO.
BUT THE ESD IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THE CITY'S NOT, I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE THAT, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
I DIDN'T SAY THEY WASN'T DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S ETHICAL DECISION TO REPLACE 'EM RIGHT NOW TILL WE AT LEAST LET THEM TRY TO WORK TOGETHER IN THEIR RESPECTIVE, UH, DISCIPLINES AND MEET AT THE TABLE LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
NOT JUST, I, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THIS IS SET UP, SO THAT'S WHY I CHOOSE TO LEAVE THINGS ALONE.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE LIKES THE SITUATION.
ANYTIME THERE'S CONTROVERSY, IT'S NEVER A GOOD SITUATION.
COMMISSIONER CROW, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU AS PART OF THIS, DO YOU NO HEAR, NO COMMENT.
I MAKE THE MOTION TO LEAVE THE BOARD MEMBERS AS THEY ARE AND, AND LEAVE IT ALONE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND THEN? WE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND.
ALL OPPOSED? ANYONE OPPOSED? AYE.
OPPOSED? ARE Y'ALL ABSTAINING OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING? NO, I SAY NO.
THERE'S THREE NO'S AND TWO YESES.
SO LET'S TABLE THIS AND MAKE A MOTION.
WHO'S THE WHY, WHY ARE WE TABLING IT? LET'S JUST MAKE THE DECISION.
THERE'S THREE NO'S AND TWO YESES FOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.
NO, TO DENY RENEWING THOSE TWO.
YEAH, YOU MADE A MOTION, BUT YEAH, BUT YOUR SON'S ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.
YEAH, HE'S PART OF THE WHOLE EQUATION.
OH, HE MADE A, HE MADE A MOTION.
WE'D HAVE SAID NO TO HIS MOTION AND HE SAID LEAVE ALL THE MEMBERS ON.
I'M SAYING HE SECOND IT AND THEN I DIDN'T SECOND IT.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID NO, RIGHT? NO, THEY BOTH SAID NO.
Y'ALL AGREE TO REPLACE THEM? SAID YEAH, WE, NO, WE JUST SAID NO TO YOUR MOTION.
DO I NEED TO REMAKE THIS? A MOTION? NO, WE ALREADY GOT THE MOTION.
YOU MADE A MOTION TO KEEP THE ONES THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THERE.
SO YOU JUST TAKE, SO JUST GO WITH THE THREE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WELL NOT THIS SAID NOTE IN THE MOTION YEAR TERM, RIGHT? YES.
THE ONLY TWO SPOTS ARE A TWO YEAR TERM.
AND THEN YOU, THE MOTION I MADE A MOTION TO THE TABLE BECAUSE YOU WHAT TIME YOU NEED TO FILL THE BOARD.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA, I MEAN YOU CAN DO IT WITH THREE, BUT YOU NEED TO FILL THE BOARD MEMBERS.
ALRIGHT, SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO THAT.
Y'ALL NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
LEMME ASK THE CITY A CITY A QUESTION TO TWO MEMBERS FROM THE CITY OF HERE.
WHEN WERE Y'ALL SUPPOSED TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO? DO Y'ALL HAVE A TIME SET FOR THAT? SURE.
LORD HAVE MERCY ON THESE PEOPLE.
WE MET, UH, WITH E UH, ESD MEMBERS AND, AND OUR COMMISSIONERS THE WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS, TWO WEEKS AGO.
UH, AND WE LEFT IT, THEY WERE GONNA GO BACK AND TALK.
UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WERE, SO WE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS SALES TAX ISSUE AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, BOTH SIDES HAVE PRESENTED, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE PRESENTED WHAT WE NORMALLY DESIGNATE, UH, FOR OUR, OUR FIRE SERVICE, WHICH IS ONE HALF OF 1 CENT.
UM, THEY HAD A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
UH, WE DID HAVE A CIVIL GOOD CONVERSATION, BUT BOTH SIDES HAVE GONE TO TALK AMONGST THEMSELVES AND THEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK.
I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS, GET INTO THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
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UH, THE FIRST MONDAY IN JANUARY.I THINK THEY HAVE THEIRS THE SAME DAY.
AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE, UH, SOME POINT AFTER THE FIRST MONDAY OF THE YEAR, UH, WE WILL HAVE AN ESD COUNCIL MEETING.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATE SET YET, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN THAT IS BECOMES NORMAL MEETING COUNSEL IS THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY AT SIX 30.
SO THAT WILL BE THIS, THIS UPCOMING MONDAY.
UH, THE ESD IN ALL, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
IN ALL LIKELIHOOD THEY'LL HAVE A MEETING THAT DAY EITHER AT FIVE OR SIX.
THEY TYPICALLY MEET THE SAME DAY NORMALLY BEFORE WE DO.
AND SO WHEN WILL Y'ALL BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE ESD BOARD? AFTER OUR MEETING MONDAY NIGHT AS A COUNCIL AND AFTER THEIR MEETING AS AN ESD BOARD, AGAIN, I THINK BOTH SIDES ARE GONNA DISCUSS AND THEN GET BACK TOGETHER.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM DATE YET ON THAT NEXT MEETING, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT WILL BE TOWARDS THE END OF NEXT WEEK OR SOMETIME THE FOLLOWING.
SO BY THE 13TH YOU SHOULD KNOW HAVE SOMETHING WORKED OUT.
SURELY I'M SURE BY THE 13TH WE'LL HAVE IT, HAVE HAD ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND CERTAINLY THE HOPE IS TO HAVE SOMETHING WORKED OUT.
I I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE THAT FAR OFF AT THIS POINT.
SO IF Y'ALL HAVE YOUR MEETINGS THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO OUR MEETING ON THE 13TH AND SETTLE THE SITUATION.
SO WE, HE'S, I LOST HIS MONEY.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE ESD BEFORE THE 13TH.
I'LL HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE 13TH FOR BOARD MEMBERS FOR ESD.
YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD TIME? 13TH? YOU WANT I, I, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS LONG AS IT AIN'T ON A FRIDAY AND, AND WE OVER.
AND WE'LL CERTAINLY INVITE COMMISSIONER MOORE AND CROW TO BE THERE AND CERTAINLY WOULD WELCOME.
THEIR ATTENDANCE AND INPUT I INVOLVED.
SO ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID BEFORE WE NO.
DAVE, WE, WE, WE DO, WE DO SEEK A SOLUTION AND WE WANNA WORK WITH IT.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE TAKING THIS LINE.
WANNA BE SETTLED AND EVERYBODY BE, BE OKAY ON BOTH SIDES? ABSOLUTELY.
THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANY STRIFE FOR GRAPPLING OR GRING GOING ON? YES SIR.
ALRIGHT, SO MY MOTION WANTS TO TABLE THIS THEN UNTIL JANUARY THE 13TH.
AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BACK WITH US AND HAVE THE MEETING WHERE Y'ALL CAN BOTH ATTEND.
[11. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line item and budget transfers/corrections.]
MR. AUDITOR, YOU'RE FINALLY UP.LIE ITEM, YOUR BUDGET TRANSFERS.
SO WE HAVE A FEW ROUTINE BUDGET AMENDMENTS BASED ON SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MOD ITEM TRANSFER AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
Y'ALL ALL SEEN THE NUMBERS? YEP.
NEED A MOTION? MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
[12. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]
12, DISCUSSED CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT THIS WEEK WE HAVE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, INVOICES MADE UP MOSTLY OF GRANT EXPENDITURES AND BOND EXPENDITURES AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO PAY.Y'ALL SEEN THOSE? ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
MR. LAMB MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
[13. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and entering into executive session: A. Pursuant to Texas: Government Code, Section 551.0761, to discuss Kaufman County's network security and infrastructure and security incident. B. Pursuant to Texas Government Code, Sections 551.087 to discuss economic development negotiations regarding Project Grand Slam.]
IS MINE.WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. A IS UH, NATHAN COMING? YOU MAY SEE NATHAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM.
WOULD YOU CALL HIM AND SEE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0.0761 AND 5 5 1 0.089 TO DISCUSS KAUFMAN COUNTY'S NETWORK SECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND SECURITY INCIDENT AND B, PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0.087 TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING PROJECT GRAND SLAM.
NEED A MOTION TO, UH, EXIT REGULAR MEETING.
YOU GOT A MOTION FOR MR. PHELPS TO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
[14. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into the regular meeting.]
TO EXIT EXECUTIVE SESSION? ENTER BACK INTO A REGULAR MEETING.MR. LANE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
[15. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider taking any action resulting from the Executive Session.]
EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE HAVE MADE A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL, EDC FOR THEIR GRAND SLAM PROJECT.[01:00:01]
TO FRUITION.OTHERWISE IT IS OFF THE TABLE.
NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKE A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.
[16. Adjourn Meeting.]
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND I'LL SECOND MR. MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND FAVOR SAY AYE.