Jan 06, 2026 Commissioners Court

DISCUSS AND ACCEPT THE COMMERCIAL COURT REGULAR MEETINGS FOR DECEMBER 30TH OF 25.

I GUESS WE HAVE ANY ONE SIGN UP.

WE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE OTHER THAN THE, UH, PICKUP.

Y'ALL HAVE THAT.

AND IF YOU'RE LISTING OR WATCHING ONLINE, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND SEE THE LOCATIONS AND TIMES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, CLEANUPS THIS YEAR.

THIS SATURDAY IS OUR FIRST ONE OF THE YEAR.

THIS YEAR IN KAUFMAN.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

Y'ALL HAVE THAT? YOU'VE SEEN IT? ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS OR ANYTHING? NO.

I'LL MAKE YOU A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES MOTION TO APPROVE TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. CROW MAKES A SECOND.

CONSIDER AND ACCEPT DONATIONS FROM OPERATION KINDNESS HUMANE SOCIETY SPAY AND NEUTER NETWORK OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH FOR THE, UH, SPONSORSHIP OF THE VERY FUR FURRY OPEN HOUSE TO COVER THE COST OF A NEW ROUTE FOR A DOGGIE MOBILE UHHUH.

A MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, MS. PAM, DISCUSS,

[3. Pam Corder: Discuss/Consider/Accept donations from Operation Kindness Humane Society and Spay N Neuter Network of $100,000 each for the sponsorship of the Very Furry Open House and to cover the cost of the wrap for the Doggie Mobile. ]

SO, SO, UM, THE S SPADE AND NEUTER NETWORK, WHICH IS A GREAT PARTNER WITH US, THEY ACTUALLY ARE THE ONES THAT WE TAKE OUR ANIMALS TO, TO DO OUR, UM, SPAY AND NEUTER OUR SURGERIES.

AND THEN OPERATION KINDNESS.

THEY DONATED A THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH TO HELP US GET OUR DOGGIE MOBILE IS WHAT WE CALL IT, UH, WRAPPED.

AND THEY WILL HAVE THEIR LOGO ON AND OF COURSE THE INFORMATION FOR OUR PET ADOPTION CENTER WILL BE ON THERE.

THEY ALSO, THERE WAS ALSO FUNDING THAT HELPED WITH OUR VERY FURRY CHRISTMAS, UM, EVENT THAT WE HAD AND PEOPLE BROUGHT THEIR DOGS TO THE SHELTER TO HAVE IT HAVE THEM MADE WITH SANTA CLAUS AND WAS A BIG HIT.

YOU, I'VE ALL SEEN THE, THE BUS THAT WE BOUGHT FROM YES.

STAR TRANSIT.

WE HAVE OUR LOGO ON IT, BUT WE NEED A WRAP ON IT SO PEOPLE WILL SEE IT.

SO IT'LL BE A LOT NICER.

IT'LL BE, IT'LL CATCH EVERYONE'S EYES.

YEP.

AND, UM, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR LOGOS ON EITHER SIDE AND A SMALL ONE IN THE BACK.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR COUNTIES ON THERE TOO.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THE FUNDING FOR US 'CAUSE IT WAS NEEDED.

AND, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYONE, UM, RIGHT NOW, SPAY AND NEUTER NETWORK HAS A PROGRAM.

UH, AN ANONYMOUS DONOR HAS DONATED A LARGE SUM OF MONEY AND THEY ARE DOING $20 SPAY AND NEUTER FOR YOUR ANIMALS.

SO IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE AND WE'RE HOPING THAT IT WILL LAST THROUGH THE SUMMER, OF COURSE, UNTIL THE MONEY RUNS OUT.

SO YOU CALL THROUGH THEIR, THEIR OFFICE, YOU SCHEDULE IT, YOU PAY $40, YOU GET $20 OF THAT BACK.

IT'S A GREAT DEAL.

RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.

OVER 900 ANIMALS HAVE BEEN FIXED SINCE NOVEMBER.

SO IT'S GOING VERY WELL, EXCUSE ME, SINCE OCTOBER.

BUT IT'S GOING VERY WELL AND WE NEED THAT.

SO LET MANY UP AND MAYBE THAT'LL HELP SLOW DOWN THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT ARE OUT ON THE ROAD.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? NO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.

NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION PLEASE.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. CROW MAKES A SECOND.

SHARP AND MS. SARAH DISCUSS, PRESENT THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION OFFICE COMBINED REPORT FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER OF 25.

A MOTION CARRIES MS. CARRIE

[4. Carrie Sharp & Sarah Matranga: Discuss/Present the Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Office combined report for October, November and December of 2025. ]

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

HOPEFULLY THIS ONE WILL BE A EXCITING EVENTFUL FIELD YEAR FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, WE, UH, FINISHED OUT OUR LAST QUARTER THE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER,

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DECEMBER.

UH, WE HAD OUR VALIDATIONS.

EVERYBODY'S ENTERED UP FOUR H AND FFA FOR THIS SPRING.

STOCK SHOWS IN YOUR PACKET I LAID OUT FOR Y'ALL THIS MORNING, UM, IS THE SCHEDULE OF ACTUAL MOVE IN AND SHOW DATES FOR THE FOUR HS.

BUT FFAS ARE GONNA BE SHOWN AT THE SAME TIMES ALSO.

AND SO I HOPE YOU, UH, COME AND JOIN US WITH THAT.

THIS LAST FALL WE DID VALIDATE NEWLY IN, UH, 54 HEIFERS.

SO THAT BRINGS OUR COUNT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR HEIFERS ONLY TO 135 ACROSS FOUR H AND FFA AND THEN STEERS.

BUT WE ALSO TAGGED IN NEWLY THIS FALL 152 SHEEP AND GOATS.

SO, UM, THE PROJECTS ARE BACK UP ON THE RISE FOR FOUR H AND FFA.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, ON TOP OF THAT, UM, OUR CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT, UM, WE'RE GOING FULL TILT.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING BACK UP IN THE, IN THE SUMMER OR IN THE SPRING.

WE'RE TRYING TO HOST AN AG DAY DURING THE FA UH, DURING THE COUNTY FAIR.

UH, BUT HATCHING IN THE CLASSROOM, THE LIFE OF THE PUMPKIN, UH, CYCLE OF THE PUMPKIN AND THE COTTON GIN HAS BEEN SOME OF OUR, UH, FALL TIME FAVORITES.

SO, UM, DID A LOT OF MY, UM, WONDERFUL MANDATORY, UM, TRAININGS.

SO I'M READY TO GO FOR ALL THOSE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT THINGS THAT MAKE US, HAVE YOU HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE YET? HUH? THE MANDATORY TRAIN TRACK? OH, YES.

YES, THEY'RE FINE.

UM, BUT ANYWAYS, IF, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT US TO DO OR, UM, I HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US AND ALL THAT, I HOPE I SEE SOME OF YOU OVER AT FORT WORTH.

IF YOU GUYS NEED PASSES TO GET IN, I HAVE A FEW EXTRAS THAT I CAN HELP YOU GUYS GET IN TO GO SEE THE KIDS SHOW.

YOU CAN PICK OUT YOUR DAYS AND WE CAN GET YOU OVER THERE.

UM, I CAN'T HELP YOU WITH THE QUESTION, THE PARKING PASS THOUGH, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, YOU MENTIONED NUMBERS ARE UP FOR TAG ENDS.

FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE UP ABOUT 7% FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

UM, WE'RE MOVING BACK OVER TO THE BIGGER ANIMALS.

UM, PATRICK HARTLEY, WHICH IS THE FFA ADVISOR FROM KAUFMAN, HE HANDLES THE, UM, THE, UH, MARKET SWINE AND BREEDING GILTS VALIDATIONS.

I DO ALL THE OTHERS.

SO, UM, HE SAID THAT THERE WAS A SLIGHT UPTICK IN THAT, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'LL BE NO, LAST YEAR IT WAS REALLY DOWN.

LAST YEAR, YEAR WAS DOWN SWINE SIDE.

SO THIS YEAR WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT CAME UP BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN, UM, I KNOW FOR THE COUNTY, FAIR WISE, THE MARKET LAMBS AND MARKET GOATS AND THE SHEEP AND GOATS, THEIR NUMBERS ARE BACK UP.

SO GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE HEIFERS AND STEERS WILL REALLY COME ON HARD.

UH, THE ONLY PART WILL BE IS OUR STEER SHOW MIGHT BE A LITTLE SMALLER BECAUSE THE, UH, COUNTY STEER SHOWS ON THE SAME TIME AS THE SAN ANTONIO STEER SHOW.

SO ALL KIDS ARE, HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN EITHER COMING HERE OR GOING THERE.

SO AS A, AS A TEENAGER, I WOULD PROBABLY GO TO SAN ANTONIO JUST SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING SAN ANTONIO'S FUN.

YES, IT'S, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BLAST THIS YEAR AT THE COUNTY FAIR.

SO YES, THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF REALLY COOL STUFF THIS YEAR.

SO WITH PROGRAMS, UM, SINCE THIS IS MY FIRST THREE MONTHS, I STARTED A PROGRAM THREE WEEKS AFTER I STARTED CALLED GROWING AND NURSING HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.

IT'S A SIX WEEK PROGRAM WHERE WE LEARNED THE BASICS OF, UM, I MEAN JUST GARDENING IN GENERAL.

I HAD SEVEN PARTICIPANTS, UH, COME TO THAT, WHICH WAS AWESOME, JUST FOR THREE WEEKS.

UH, ADVERTISING ALSO DID WITH PA UH, STEPHANIE HARDY, UH, STERN STITCH OUR LAST TWO SESSIONS IN THE FALL, WHICH WAS GREAT.

WE ENDED UP MAKING HOMEMADE PIZZAS AND WE DID, UM, GRANOLA BARS.

SO THAT WAS FUN.

UM, AND THEN I ATTENDED THE FOUR H SUMMIT IN BROWNWOOD WITH MISS CARRIE.

AND THEN MY BIGGEST THING IS, IS THE FOUR H FOUNDATION.

I APPLIED FOR A GRANT, A THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT, UM, FOR THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF WALMART.

UM, AND THEY GAVE US A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO WE ENDED UP GOING TO WALMART WITH SOME OF THE FOUR HS AND CARRIE AND WE ENDED UP GETTING 14 DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF, UM, CHRISTMASES FOR ALL AGE GROUPS OF KIDS THAT ARE EITHER IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM OR THAT JUST NEEDED A CHRISTMAS, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY REWARDING AND AWESOME TO DO.

AND THEN LASTLY, I HAVE REACHED OVER, UH, 21,939 PEOPLE THROUGH FACEBOOK, THROUGH THE, UM, KAUFMAN HERALD, UH, THROUGH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY EMPLOYEE NEWSLETTER OR MY FCH MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, FACEBOOK AND MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS THAT I PUT OUT, UH, MONTHLY FOR COOKING VIDEOS.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO YEAH.

I'M JUST GETTING OUT THERE TRYING TO GET THERE.

THAT'S MORE, UH, VIEWS AND PROBABLY ALL THE PRINT NEWSPAPERS HAVE .

JUST TRYING, JUST TRYING.

SO THERE YOU GO.

TRYING TO GET MY FACE OUT.

THERE YOU GO.

NOW, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER WE MOVE ALL THE PEOPLE UPSTAIRS, HOPEFULLY IN MAY WE'LL BE VACATED.

THEN WE NEED TO PLAN ON COMING AND LOOKING AT MOVING YOU GUYS UP THERE SOMETIME THIS YEAR.

YOU CAN DO YOUR COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS AND HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, AND THEN PLAN AN AREA TO WHERE

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YES SIR.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN REACH MORE PEOPLE.

YOU'LL HAVE A BIG AREA OR SOME AREA WHERE YOU COULD DO SOME THINGS THAT YOU'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST.

YES, SIR.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

SO WE CAN HAVE BREAKFAST EVERY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

YOU SAYING ? THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I LOVE THAT IDEA.

A BIG GRILL BACK HERE IN THE PARKING LOT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WELL WE ARE, WE ARE STARTING THE GRILLING TEAM, SO WE MIGHT HAVE PRACTICE ON THAT.

ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THE FOLKS NOT NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. LANE MAKES A MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

MR. UH, MORE SECONDS.

A THANK YOU.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.

COMMISSIONER LANE NUMBER

[5. Commissioner Lane: Discuss/Consider/Approve the abandonment of 11827 FM Rd 1393, Terrell TX: Property ID: 29904, 30019, 30021, and 30027 street and alleyway located in what used to be the Town of Lawrence]

FIVE.

UH, TABLE THAT, IT'LL COME ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 13TH.

HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.

DO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

A MOTION

[6. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line item and budget transfers/corrections. ]

CARRIES.

OKAY, MS. AUDITOR, LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE THIS WEEK AND IT'S TO RECORD GRANT REVENUE.

AND SO WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

THAT'S EASY.

ANY QUESTIONS? DO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. CROW MAKES SECOND.

AYE.

AUDITOR ONCE AGAIN CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

MS.

[7. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor. ]

SO THIS WEEK WE HAVE AP INVOICES.

UM, MOST OF THAT IS MADE UP OF EMPLOYEE INSURANCE AND FINES AND FEES.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A FEW JURY PAYMENTS AND THEN WE HAVE A PAYROLL.

UM, SO WE ASK THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO PAY.

Y'ALL ALL SEEN THESE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT 'EM.

ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? NOT ANY MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL TO PARTICIPATE IN A TAX INCREMENT OF REINVESTMENT.

NUMBER EIGHT,

[8. Workshop: Workshop to discuss an Interlocal Agreement with the City of Crandall to Participate in Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 6. ]

ZONE NUMBER SIX.

AND WE HAVE, UH, OUR, UH, MR. MIKEY SLY .

DO I NEED THE YES.

COME ON FORWARD.

I MIGHT ADD NO DECISIONS ARE GONNA BE MADE TODAY, BUT THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND SO YOU DO HAVE AN ACTIONABLE ITEM AFTER THE WORKSHOP? NOT, BUT NOT RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE GONNA DO THAT NEXT.

OH, RIGHT.

YOU SAID TODAY, I THOUGHT WELL ON YOUR ITEM RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

UH, I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO ADD OTHER THAN WHAT I'VE SAID BEFORE.

TUR SIX IS STRICTLY COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.

UH, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UH, YOU, YOU ALL SHOULD BE VERY AWARE OF ALL THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT THE CRANDALL HAS HAD.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU I'VE BEEN CONSULTING IN THIS ROLE FOR ABOUT 14, THIS MAY BE THE 15TH MONTH.

AND I'VE YET TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT ANYONE.

THEY'RE LINED UP WAITING TO GET INTO MY OFFICE.

AND THEY BEING COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPERS THAT FOLLOWS RESIDENTIAL, THEY SEE THE RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S SLOWED DOWN SOMEWHAT, BUT I SUSPECT THAT IT'LL PICK UP AGAIN WHEN, IF AND WHEN THE INTEREST RATES BECOME A LITTLE MORE SUSTAINABLE AND, AND, UH, PROFITABLE.

BUT GENERALLY COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TYPE OF, UH, EVENTS FOLLOW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.

THIS PARTICULAR TURS, UH, I'VE SHARED WITH YOU AND I THINK IT'S IN YOUR PACKET OR LAST WEEK'S PACKET OR THE WEEK BEFORE, PACKET YEAR, ABOUT FROM LAST YEAR.

THAT ACTIVITY INCLUDES WIDENING 1 48 NORTH, UH, TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, TRANSPORTATION EASE THROUGH THAT AREA.

THAT ZONE, UM, IS PRIME COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

I'M MEETING TOMORROW WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT ENTIRE ZONE, UH, JUST TO GIVE THEM AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE THE TUR SIX STANDS, WHETHER THE COUNTY'S GONNA PARTICIPATE OR NOT.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT DECISION SOMETIME TODAY.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA LAUNCH SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY IN THAT ZONE.

AND, AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU LAST WEEK,

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IT INCLUDES LIGHTING, THE EIGHT WAY STOP INTERSECTION THAT WE HAVE AT THAT, UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION, UH, UNDERPASS UNDER THE 1 75 HIGHWAY.

UM, SO THERE'S SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.

WE GOT TWO SIGNIFICANT PINCH POINTS, AS YOU KNOW, AT 7 41 AND 1 48.

AND THEY'RE FIXING TO OPEN THE BYPASS THAT'S GONNA RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THROUGH TOWN.

WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY MAKE A, A HOME RUN HERE TO EXTEND THAT.

AND, AND, AND THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY AGREED AND BEEN APPROVED BY THE, BY TXDOT, UH, WITH THEIR PLANS TO BUILD THE TDOT STANDARDS, UH, TO DO THAT WIDENING.

AND IT'LL BE REIMBURSED THROUGH THAT TOUR SIX, THAT VERY THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

OBVIOUSLY YOUR PARTICIPATION CERTAINLY HELPS WITH THAT PROCESS, UH, ALONG WITH THE CITY'S 50% MATCH.

AS I MENTIONED TO YOU LAST WEEK, WE, I, I APPROACHED ESD AS THEY ARE A TAX TAXING ENTITY AS WELL, TO SEE IF THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE TO THE TUNE THAT WE WERE ASKING THE COUNTY TO AT 40%.

UM, THAT DIDN'T, THAT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY WINGS, THAT WASN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

SO IT'S BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY, BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO, UH, PARTICIPATE TO THIS TURS.

IT'S GOING DIRECTLY TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, WATERS, SEWER, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THAT GROWTH.

AND THERE IS SIGNIFICANT GROWTH, UH, THAT WE'VE ANTICIPATED IN THIS TURS.

UM, AND I'M GONNA ADDRESS COMMISSIONER MOORE'S CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE AND YOUR TAX RATE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

WHEN YOU PUT, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN IMPROVEMENTS ON THE GROUND THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY GETTING TAXED AT AG EXEMPTED RATES, THAT'S GOING TO IN INCLUDE SIGNIFICANT REVENUE TO THE COUNTY.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR JUST THE M AND O PIECE, 40% OF THAT THAT'S GROWS UP IN THAT ZONE TO BE PLACED IN THIS TURS FUND TO HELP THE CITY PARTICIPATE IN PUTTING THESE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

I THINK I'VE GIVEN YOU AN OVERVIEW OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR WEEKS TO, TO GIVE YOU A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THIS TOUR IS.

AND UNLIKE OTHER TERRA, TRUST ME, I WORKED RIGHT ONE BLOCK AWAY FOR YEARS.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME TURS AGREEMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SECOND CRACK AT .

YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT, BUT PREDOMINANTLY THEY'RE ALL RESIDENTIAL AND NOW YOU'RE BUYING DOWN PIT ASSESSMENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING WITH YOUR TURS AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT.

YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS IMMEDIATELY.

WE'VE GOT TO RUN WATERLINE EXTENSIONS, WASTEWATER EXTENSIONS AND THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT AWAY.

'CAUSE THESE GUYS ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO BRING MORE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.

MIKE, HAVE Y'ALL ESTIMATED THE, UH, TAXABLE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THIS WOULD EVENTUALLY BRING, SAY THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS? WELL, UM, I THINK YOU HAD SOME NUMBERS LAST TIME, BUT I DIDN'T.

I DID AND I NEED TO, I NEED TO BRING THAT BACK UP.

HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE PLEASE.

I FORGOT WE HAD A PICTURE OF THE TOTAL, I FORGOT MY FILE.

WE HAD A COUNCIL MEETING LAST NIGHT LATE AND I FORGOT MY FILE ON MY DESK.

SO I HAD HAD ZERO FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS.

NO, I MEAN THEY'RE ESTIMATING WHAT IT'S GONNA BE WHEN IT'S BUILT.

JUST AN ESTIMATE.

TOTAL TAXES GENERATED.

THE, THE BOTTOM LINE PROB THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'LL COME HERE OR NOT WITHOUT OUR PARTICIPATION.

303 MINUTES.

I'M JUST GUESSING IF WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTING, THAT'S ALL.

ON THE BYPASS THAT'S ALREADY DONE NORTH, NORTH SIDE.

I'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE EXCEPT LETTERS OF INTENT.

I DO NOT, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF LETTERS.

INTENT FOR A HOTEL, A COUPLE RESTAURANTS, AND A MIXED USE ON THAT FACILITY.

ON THAT 1 48, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF 75 OR

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SO THE ONE THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING THE WHERE YOU GO, WHERE YOU GO TO MCDONALD'S? YEAH, THE MCDONALD'S SIDE UP THERE BY THE UH, YEAH.

TACO COSTA, MCDONALD'S, TACO COSTA, THE SHELL STATE.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

1 48 NORTH TO TA TOWN NORTH CARROLL.

BUT ISN'T THAT THE PART WE'RE ALREADY DOING UHUH? MM-HMM.

JUST DOWN AT DEAD ENDS TO WILDCAT, RIGHT? WE'RE SOUTH.

WE'RE DOING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU GUYS HAVE COMMITTED DOLLARS RIGHT NOW FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF YOUR ROAD BOND PROJECT.

WE ARE PROMOTING OR, OR GETTING THAT DONE QUICKER BY HAVING THE DEVELOPER BUILD TO THAT STANDARD.

WELL, YOUR ENGINEER HAS, HAS ALREADY DESIGNED IT.

48 ON THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE FRONT SIDE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

NOT THERE.

IT'S IN 1 48 BYPASS.

THAT'S IT.

SEE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NORTH ONE THIS WAY.

NOT, NOT HERE.

THEY'RE ON NO PRECINCT.

ONE SIDE IS WHAT'S TALKING.

YEAH, YEAH.

THEY'RE ALL NORTH OF 1 75.

THE NEW BYPASS AND PRECINCT FOUR AND THEN THE RIGHTS PART, THEY ONE EXPANDS THE PRECINCT.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT IN YOURS.

IT'S A BIG PINCH POINT.

THERE'S TWO PINCH POINTS IN THIS TOWN IN CRANDALL.

7 41 INTERSECTION AND 1 48 NORTH.

AND I, AND NOW THE SCHOOL'S BACK OPEN TODAY.

OH, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME.

OH, I LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF PINCH POINTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NO, I'M TALKING TO ME ABOUT SCHOOLS AND TRAFFIC.

YEAH, WELL EVERYBODY'S GOT THAT CONCERN, BELIEVE ME.

40 IS BETTER.

I'M JUST COME DRIVE DOWN 1641 OR SEVEN 40 IN THE MORNING.

I'VE DONE THAT TOO.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YOU WON'T BE VERY HAPPY.

WE ALL HAVE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

WE ALL DO.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON.

WE CAN, WE CAN AMELIORATE AND HELP, UH, TAKE CARE OF, I'M NOT SAYING ELIMINATE, TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO COME.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA ELIMINATE ANYTHING, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST YOU'RE GOING TO THAT'S RIGHT.

PACIFY IT AS BEST YOU CAN WHEN WE CAN.

SO, UH, I KNOW MOST PROBABLY THE CITY'S TOUR IS WHAT, 35 YEARS? YES.

THIS IS A 35 YEAR TURS.

NOW WHAT THAT OF COURSE THAT ALL THAT MEANS THOUGH, JUDGE, IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, ONCE WE MAKE ALL THOSE, UH, DEDICATED IMPROVEMENTS, THAT TURS GOES AWAY.

GOES AWAY.

WE DON'T KEEP COLLECTING MONEY AND JUST PUTTING THERE FOR NOTHING.

YEP.

ONCE WE GET ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS DONE, THE COUNCIL WILL, UH, DISBAND THE TURS AND ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED THAT HASN'T BEEN SPENT WILL BE RETURNED TO THE COUNTY.

SO ON THAT SIDE OF THAT ONE, YEAH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY GOING TO THAT.

YOU ASKED ABOUT THE TAXABLE STUFF.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, THE TOTAL TAXES GENERATED, IF EVERYTHING GOT BUILT THAT WE ANTICIPATE IS 47 MILLION, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONTRIBUTE 18 MILLION OF THAT ALMOST 19 MILLION THAT LEAVES A NET BENEFIT AFTER PARTICIPATING INTS OF $28 MILLION TO YOUR ACCOUNT, TO YOUR REVENUE STREAM.

BUT THAT'S THAT YOU'RE PROJECTED 40%.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.

IT'S 40.

THE REQUEST IS FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE AT 40%.

THE CITY HAS APPROVED A 50% PARTICIPATION.

AND WE ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE WE COLLECT SALES TAX AND YOU DON'T.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT, DON'T COLLECT ANYTHING BUT JUST RIGHT.

PROPERTY TAX.

SO WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

THIS IS THE TIME TO SPEAK THE PIECE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THEIR REQUESTED 40.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE 35 YEARS.

WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

UH, AND WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT'S IT NOW.

RIGHT? RIGHT NOW IT'S VACANT LAND.

IT DOESN'T BRING US MUCH MONEY.

AND I KNOW, UH, IT'S BEEN SAID THAT, UH, IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING IN ONE RESPECT.

IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.

AND ANOTHER, IT COSTS US FOR THE REVENUE WE'RE NOT RECEIVING WHATEVER THAT REVENUE MIGHT BE.

UH, AND SINCE, AND WE WILL NEVER, EVER DO HOMES.

SO I UNDERSTAND , WE'VE YOU PLAYED THAT GAME.

WE'VE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT AND WON'T GO BACK.

SO, UH, DISCUSSION TIME GUYS.

Y'ALL KNOW

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HOW I FEEL ABOUT DAR.

SO WHAT? I DON'T LIKE 'EM, SO, OKAY.

FOR ME, I MEAN, I, I I'M SORRY.

I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAYING OUT SO MUCH NOW AND TAX DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS, THIS IS TAX MONEY THAT THE VOTERS ARE GIVING US AND THEY WON'T.

AND WE SHOULDN'T BE GIVING IT AWAY.

I MEAN, I, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD, WE SHOULDN'T BE GIVING IT AWAY IF WE CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS KEEP THE SAME PRICES UP THE SAME HOME PRICES UP.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO EVER LOWER 'EM IF WE DON'T START EITHER COLLECTING THE MONEY FROM THE BUSINESS THAT COME IN.

IF YOU GIVE IT AWAY FOR THE NEXT 35, 40 YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

AND I'D LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, THE CITIZENS THAT RECEIVE SOME MONEY AND THE TAX RATES ARE GOING DOWN AGAIN, I'LL, IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING MONEY, THEN WE CAN'T DO THAT.

I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GIVING IT AWAY.

THAT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT'S YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER AFTER THIS WORKSHOP DICTATES THERE'S, THERE'S LANGUAGE IN IT THAT SAYS THE COUNTY'S PARTICIPATION CAN ONLY BE PUT AGAINST INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE STUFF THAT'S REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS VACANT LAND THAT'S BEING FARMED DOESN'T HAVE WATER LINES AND DOESN'T HAVE WA WASTEWATER LINES AND DOESN'T, AND THEY NEED ROADS.

YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT FROM ALL OF THAT IS BRINGING IN THE BOXES AND THE GROCERY STORES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU BENEFIT FROM.

BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO, TO THAT YOU'RE JUST GIVING THAT MONEY AWAY 35 YEARS.

IN 35 YEARS, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

THEY'RE GONNA MOVE.

THEY'RE GONNA SAY, THIS BUILDING'S WORE OUT.

LOOK AT THE AT AND T DOWNTOWN DALLAS RIGHT NOW ON THE NEWS.

THAT'S ALL IT IS.

NOW WE'RE MOVING OUT DALLAS.

IT'S GONNA COST 'EM 10,000 JOBS AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE VACANT BUILDING DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEIR BUILDING'S OLD.

THEY DON'T LIKE IT NO MORE.

I'M NOT GONNA DEAL WITH THE DALLAS ISSUES.

I'M JUST SAYING THE SAME THING FROM TERRELL.

GOODYEAR MOVED, OR FIRESTONE, WHATEVER IT IS.

THEY MOVED RIGHT OVER TO FORNEY BECAUSE GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? ALL THE ABATEMENTS RUN OUT.

SO THEY RUN OVER HERE AND GOT ALL BRAND NEW ABATEMENTS.

RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST A BIG GAME.

THIS IS RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL.

WELL THAT'S GREAT TO PROVIDE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

WELL, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF CRANDALL.

THAT'S GREAT.

I'M TIRED OF IT.

OR DRIVING TO FORNEY AND TERRELL TO GET 'EM NOW.

OKAY, WHO ELSE? EVERYBODY GOTTA SPEAK, JUDGE.

I GOT, YOU KNOW, TOM'S GONNA SPEAK DOWN THERE.

IT'S HIS ANSWER.

YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.

LIKE SPEAKER, THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES.

THAT'S RIGHT.

30 SECONDS YOU ALREADY LOST TO .

ONE THING YOU KNOW IS A LOT OF TIMES, UH, I, MIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED, I'M NOT A BIG TERRORIST FAN EITHER.

UH, ONE OF THE, BUT I LIKE TO GIVE EXPLANATION WHY TOO.

SO I'M GONNA MAKE IT, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT IN THREE MINUTES HERE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I I, THIS WEEK I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH.

I PULLED DIFFERENT COUNTIES, PULL TAX RATE, UH, PULLED THE TURS AGREEMENT STUFF, LOOKED AT WHAT PEOPLE'S DOING, WHAT THEY'RE NOT DOING.

UM, ONE OF THE THING THAT I DID, UH, AS I WAS LOOKING AT ALL THESE EXPIRATION DATE STUFF WE'RE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING AND I THINK THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY INVESTED TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY ACTIVE IN, UH, TURS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S JUST THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

UH, THAT'S BEEN CREATED ALL THE WAY BACK INTO THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

UH, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF MY FRAME OF MIND IS LIKE THE TAROT TURS NUMBER ONE.

OKAY? IT EXPIRES IN 2036.

UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S GETTING 50%.

SO THAT'S 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE.

WHETHER WE'RE SITTING HERE THE NEXT COURT, I WANNA MAKE A DECISION THAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THEM IN 10 YEARS IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO CAPTURE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT FIRST HERS, RIGHT? AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER WE CAPTURE ANOTHER ONE, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE CD OF FORNEY, ANOTHER 50%.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA START SEEING THE BENEFIT OF CAPTURING THE FULL AMOUNT.

BUT IF, IF, IF WE MAKE A DECISION TODAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE 40% HERE, 50% HERE, WE'RE GONNA GIVE, THEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT CAPTURE POINT, UH, THEN WE'VE, WE'VE NEGATED THE, THE CAPTURE 'CAUSE NOW WE'RE GIVING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO I THINK, UH, THE DECISIONS MADE IN THE PAST TO INVEST.

I THINK WE'VE BEEN IN SOME HARD TIMES RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE DON'T SEE THE BENEFITS OF IT.

BUT I, I SEE 'EM COMING IN 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WHETHER WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE OR NOT.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE IN OUR FRAME OF MIND TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE COUNTY'S TAX MONEY TO BE, WE NEED TO BE IN THAT CAPTURE MODE NOW.

IT'D BE NICE TO START CAPTURING THIS MONEY AND NOT GIVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THEN WE'RE SPINNING OUR WHEELS IN 10 YEARS.

WE'RE IN THE SAME SHOES WE ARE NOW.

SO I JUST, IT IS JUST A FRAME OF MIND.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY.

THAT'S,

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I MEAN, I CAN'T GROW THAT DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT.

YES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME BEFORE YOU RECOGNIZE THE VALUE.

WE'VE GOTTA, WE GOTTA PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TO BRING THOSE GROCERY STORES AND, AND BOXES AND, AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL SERVICE BUSINESSES TO TOWN.

YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE, YOU SAID IT JUST NOW YOU'VE PARTICIPATE, YOU DO PARTICIPATE IN 10 TOUR.

WE'RE JUST ASKING TO YOU FOR YOU TO CONSIDER DOING THE SAME THING FOR CRANDALL.

NOW I WILL SAY THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE WATCHING TV SAYING THEY'RE NOT BEING FREDERICK CR.

THERE IS TWO OF OUR ACTIVE TURS IN CRANDLE.

WE DO HAVE TWO ACTIVE, THEY ARE RESIDENTIALLY BASED.

SO WE DO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CRANDALL AREA.

SO WE, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THOSE TURS 'CAUSE I WASN'T HERE WHEN THEY DID THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A COMPLETE DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUYING DOWN PER PIT ASSESSMENTS OR HELPING OUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

KELLY, YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING OR I DON'T, I'M NOT A, I'M, I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE DEALT WITH SOME THE TURS MATERIAL.

I'M JUST NOT A TURS FAN MYSELF EITHER.

I REALLY AM NOT.

WELL, I THINK WE, TERRY YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? I'M NEW AT IT.

I'M JUST LEARNING.

THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

I MEAN THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'VE, IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN DECISIONS MADE THAT'S NOT BENEFITED THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESIDENTIAL TURS.

AND, AND I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST THAT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO 35 YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO 40%.

UH, WE GET TO CHOOSE THAT.

UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT SAYS OR TO COME ACROSS AS WE'RE PENALIZING RANDALL.

'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

I THINK THERE'S A, IN MY VIEW, UH, WHERE THEY COME OR DON'T COME IF WE PARTICIPATE.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU MAY HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING.

UH, AND I, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I DO THE BUDGET, I SEE THE DOLLARS, I SEE HER TAX RATE, I SEE HER FUND BALANCE.

IT NEEDS TO BE GROWING EVERY YEAR CONSIDERABLY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR TAX RATE DROP EVERY YEAR INSTEAD OF SAYING STATIC.

UH, WHETHER WE GIVE UP SOMETHING TO GET MORE, IS THAT THE WAY TO DO IT? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.

I KNOW YOU HAVE TO INVEST TO GET THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, AND SO, UH, I'M NOT A HUNDRED, I AM NOT A DEAD SET AGAINST TURFS, BUT IT HAS TO BE THE VALUE TO US MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE GIVING UP IN ORDER FOR ME TO EVEN CONSIDER IT.

UH, AND THAT'S JUST KINDA WHERE I AM.

WELL, IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IF EVERYTHING BUILT GETS BUILT OUT, YOU TAKE HOME $28 MILLION AND YOU'RE GIVING UP 18.

SO YOU'RE TAKING, YOU'RE GETTING MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE GETTING GIVEN.

AND THE REALITY IS WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING BUILT OUT IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

SO CONSIDER A 15 YEAR DEAL.

GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM RIGHT.

TO, TO MAKE IT, TO GET IT BUILT OUT.

CONSIDER PARTICIPATING AT 40% FOR 15 YEARS.

I'M STANDING HERE TELLING YOU THAT I'VE GOT DEVELOPERS MEET THAT I'M MEETING WITH TOMORROW THAT ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET STARTED.

SO THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL DECIDE, UH, OF COURSE IT'S .

IT'S ALSO YOUR POLITICAL FUTURE.

SO, UH, DO WHAT YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT.

TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK WE DONE OUR INVESTING.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY SOMETHING ELSE TOO.

YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WEEKS BACK WE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ABATEMENT PROCESS WE USE AND THAT'S OUTDATED.

IT AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

AND I HONESTLY, AFTER MY STUDY HOMEWORK THIS WEEK, WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY GENEROUS COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES WHAT THEY'RE GIVEN NOW.

I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT ABATEMENT PROCESS.

WE ARE PRO BUSINESS.

UH, WE HAVE A LOT VESTED IN TURS.

I MEAN,

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NOW, WHEN YOU START DOING CAPTURING, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT I THINK'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITIES, BUT WE HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS HERE AS WELL.

THAT IN 10 YEARS THE COMMISSIONERS, WHETHER IT'S US OR ONE OF US OR ALL OF US ARE SITTING HERE, UH, OR THE NEW ONES SAY, I'M GLAD THEM GUYS MADE THAT DECISION BACK THEN SO WE COULD CAPTURE A HUNDRED PERCENT MORE DETECTIVES.

WHEN WE CAPTURE THAT, IT HELPS US NOT ONLY BALANCE OUR BUDGET, BUT THE LORD TAX RATE.

I, I, I JUST THINK THAT'S A WISE DECISION.

AND I THINK WE DO CONTRIBUTE.

I DON'T WANT IT PAINTED AS A PICTURE DAY.

OH, TOMMY DON'T WANT TO INVEST.

TOMMY DON'T WANT TO HELP.

NO, I'M ALL ABOUT ABATEMENTS.

AND WE'VE SHOWN THAT IN THIS COURT THAT WE ARE SO THE ABATEMENTS ARE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YES SIR.

AND THAT'S BEEN WHAT'S BEEN WORKING FOR US FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW, SIR.

BUT ANYWAY, I'LL BE QUIET.

WE WANNA TACKLE THE ABATEMENT ISSUE LATER.

SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE WE TALKED YOU TO DEATH? I HAVE A WHOLE, BUT I'M JUST FINE.

I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL PARTICIPATE.

NINE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE INTERLOCK AGREEMENT WITH CITY CRALL TO PARTICIPATE IN A TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE.

IF NOT, THE TERMS IS ALREADY CREATED AND WE'LL MOVE ON WITHOUT YOU.

[9. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve Interlocal Agreement with City of Crandall to Participate in Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 6.]

NUMBER SIX.

SO TWO OPTIONS HERE.

IT'S EITHER NO ALL THE WAY OR DO YOU WANT TO NEGOTIATE A, UH, PERCENTAGE AND A TIME? SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH NUMBER 1, 2, 3, 4.

I'M GOING TO SAY YES.

GUESS WHAT? YES.

AT WHAT THAT YOU TO YEAH, I'M GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH 'EM.

AND WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE AND TERM YEAR TERM YOU TALKING ABOUT? NO MORE THAN 10, 10 YEARS? MM-HMM .

AND WHAT PERCENTAGE? OBVIOUSLY NOTHING MORE THAN 40.

SO YOU GET 10, 20, 25, 30.

AND THEN, AND THE, AND THE MATERIAL TO HELP HERE.

THE, AND THE MATERIAL BOTTOM'S NOT GETTING MORE THAN 25% ANYMORE.

EVEN ON SHORT PARTICIPATIONS.

IF YOU GO INTO ALL THE DATA THAT'S BEING PUT OUT THERE NOW, UH, THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE ONE COUNTY, I'M NOT GONNA THROW THEIR NAMES OUT THERE, THAT DID A HUNDRED PERCENT ONE LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS ONLY FOR FIVE YEARS FOR A INDUSTRIAL SITE.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S A DIFFERENT STORY FOR EACH SITUATION, BUT JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW Y'ALL AIN'T HAD TIME TO REVIEW ALL THE DATA, BUT IT'S KIND OF A COMMON GOAL, BUT, SO YOU GOT A 10 YEAR, BUT WHAT A PERCENTAGE, YOU'RE THINKING 25.

SO WE'VE GOT A 10 AND A 25, 10 YEAR AND A 25% S***T.

YOU STILL AT ZERO? YEAH, I'M AT ZERO AT THE MOMENT.

SO I NEED A MOTION THEN FROM SOMEONE TO DO ZERO.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVORS, THEY, AYE.

AYE.

ANY ABSTAIN? OFFICER, WE GOT ONE.

MIKE.

YOUR TURN.

WERE YOU, DID YOU PUT INTO A VOTE? YES.

THREE TO ONE.

ZEBRA.

DID YOU VOTE? JUDGE? NO ABSTAIN.

NO NEED TO VOTE.

I MAKE A MOTION TO

[10. Adjourn Meeting.]

ADJOURN THE MEETING.

MOTION TO ADJOURN? I HAVE A SECOND.

I WILL SECOND.

MR. WILL MAKE SECOND.