May 19, 2026 Commissioners Court

ETT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AN APPROVE THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT, SELF-EVALUATION REPORT AND TRANSITION PLAN.

MR. CROW MAKES SECOND.

[3. Shelley Tackett: Discuss/Consider/Approve the American with Disabilities Act Self Evaluation Report and Transition Plan ]

UM, TODAY WE'RE ASKING THAT, UM, THE AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT, SELF-EVALUATION AND TRANSITION PLAN BE APPROVED.

UM, THE, UM, SELF-EVALUATION PLAN IS BASICALLY, UM, THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM SERVICES AND FACILITIES AND WEBSITES WERE JUST IDENTIFYING BARRIERS AND, UM, MAKING ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, UM, TRANSITION PLAN STEPS THAT WE TAKE TO SHOW THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND WITH THE HELP OF THE DA'S OFFICE FACILITIES, TOMMY AND MYSELF, WE'VE PUT THESE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER AND WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THEM TODAY.

AND THIS WAS BROUGHT ON BY, BY TXDOT.

WE ARE A SUB-RECIPIENT FOR FUTURE LAND GRANTS AND FUNDING.

SO THAT'S ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO.

WE DO.

YES, SIR.

SO IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, BUT WE DO.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHELLY ABOUT THE INCIDENT PROGRAM? NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. LANE MAKES THE MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

FIRST, WE'LL MAKE A SECOND.

[4. Shannon Roden with Development Services/Kelby Golden: Discuss/Consider an appeal for a Subdivision Variance decision made by the Development Support Committee for the Grand Meadows project per Section 13.01.1.1 of the Subdivision Regulations. ]

UH, AND KELLY GOLDEN.

SHE GOLDEN.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER YOU AN APPEAL FOR A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE DECISION MADE BY THE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT COMMITTEE.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE GRAND MEADOWS PROJECT PER SECTION 13.0 1.1 0.1 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING.

SO THE GRAND MEADOWS, UH, PROJECT IS, UM, IT'S AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST ONE PARCEL THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

UH, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS' EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

UM, IT'S IN PRECINCT TWO.

UH, SO THEY OPTED TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THE ETJ.

SO THEY ARE NOW UNDER THE SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WITHIN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

UM, THERE IS A FRONTAGE ORDER, AS YOU KNOW.

UM, THERE WAS A VARIANCE THAT THEY REQUESTED FOR THAT FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT.

AND THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND THEY DENIED IT.

THEY DID OFFER A 50 FOOT COMPROMISE.

UM, THE, THE APPLICANT'S DISAGREE WITH THAT DECISION.

SO THEY'RE HERE TO, TO APPEAL THAT CASE TO YOU TODAY.

WHO'S GONNA SPEAK TO US, KELBY.

I THINK KAUFMAN, Y'ALL KNOW, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS, UH, SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES 75 FEET FRONTAGE FOR LOTS THAT FRONT, COUNTY OR PRIVATE ROADS.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS KELBY GOLDEN, UH, ONYX DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, GRAND MEADOWS.

UH, IT'S ABOUT, UH, 250 ACRES.

1,150 LOTS.

UM, THIS WILL BE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT JUST, UH, NORTHWEST OF 5 48.

AND, AND MAN.

SO, UM, AS, UH, SHANNON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR INTRODUCTION.

UH, THIS, THIS IS REGARDING SECTION 5.06 B TWO, THE LOT FRONTAGE ORDER.

UM,

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UM, WE ARE A DISTRICT.

WE, WE HAVE GOT A, WE HAVE A DISTRICT ON THE PROPERTY THAT'LL MAIN AND OPERATE THESE ROADS.

AND SO THE FIRST POINT WAS KIND OF, THIS IS KIND OF A HYBRID.

THIS ISN'T A, THESE WILL NOT, THESE LOTS WILL NOT BE FRONTING COUNTY ROADS.

THESE WILL BE MAIN AND OPERATED BY THE MUD DIFFERENT THAN A DEAL WHERE WE'RE PUTTING LOTS NEXT TO THE FRONTAGE.

AND SO, UM, OUR REQUEST HERE IS THAT WE WANT TO DO A MIX OF FORTIES AND FIFTIES.

UM, UH, WE, THIS IS A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY'S IN KAUFMAN.

A PORTION WILL BE IN ROCKWALL, UH, JUST DUE TO WHERE THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE'S COMING FROM.

THE FIRST PORTION THAT WE'RE PLATTING IS IN THE, UH, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SIDE.

SO, UM, THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW US TO, TO CON TO, TO REQUEST A, A VARIANCE TO THE 70, THE 75 FOOT FRONTAGE ORDER.

UM, WE'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH SHANNON MONIQUE AS THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, ALL BEEN GOOD PARTNERS TO US OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.

SO APPRECIATE THE CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS, I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU.

I COULD SAY A LOT OF 'EM NOW ARE, SOME OF 'EM WON'T BURN THE LODGE.

SOME 40.

IT'S MAKING SO MUCH TRAFFIC.

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHERE THEY HAVE TO PARK THEIR CARS.

'CAUSE A LOT OF HOMES HAVE MORE THAN TWO.

SOME DRIVEWAYS, YOU BARELY GET TWO IN THERE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS.

TO ME, IT'S KIND OF A SAFETY HAZARD.

IF ANYTHING ELSE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULDN'T GO 50 STICK WITH THE 75.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY LOTS YOU'RE GOING TO GAIN BY GOING FROM, UH, SEVEN, FIVE DOWN TO 50.

DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF LOTS YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THERE OR? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.

THE ROUGH MATH WOULD BE, UM, SO, SO 50 TO 40 WOULD BE A 20% REDUCTION.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN TWO TO 300 LOTS.

WE WOULD LOSE.

NO, NO.

I MEAN, JUST ON THE ROAD HERE, UH, JUDGE, HOW MANY ON THE ROAD HERE FOR THIS? ON THE 50 TO 40? YEAH.

OH, SO, SO IN, FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY SPECIFIC, WE HAVE AROUND 725 LOTS.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 140 LOTS.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOSE YOU.

THAT'S JUST MY FEELINGS ON THE WHOLE DEAL.

I, YES, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO LESS THAN 50 FEET MYSELF, BUT IT'S JUST ME.

SO I, I HAD A MEETING WITH 'EM, I, I TALKED TO 'EM AND UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, I GUESS MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE TREATING, I KNOW WE DON'T PLA 'EM, BUT, BUT LIKE THE ONES NEXT TO 'EM, NOT THE ROCKWALL ONES, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE IN COLLIN COUNTY, THEY'RE ALL 40 FOOT BECAUSE THEY'RE PLOTTED IN MCLENDON AND CHISHOLM.

BUT WE DID PLANT 40 OURSELVES IN OFF OF 5 48.

THAT, UH, ONE THAT BRUCE AND US DID.

THAT DENTON COUNTY JUDGE CAME DOWN BACK IN OUR FIRST YEAH, KIRK WILSON.

TWO YEARS AGO.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT.

5 48.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT.

THEY'RE ALL 40 FOOT LOT.

AND WE PLANTED THAT.

SO I MEAN, I, MY BIGGEST OBJECTION ALL THE TIME IS THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, I TOLD THEM THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PARK ON BOTH SIDES AND, AND IT'S IN OUR REGULATIONS, I'M NOT OBJECTING BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR REGULATION 27 FEET.

I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE 27 FOOT ROADS IN, IN, IN THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO INCREASE IT UP TO 30 OR SOMETHING TO GET WHERE IF YOU HAVE MIRRORED TRUCKS SITTING OUT THERE ON THE ROAD, FIRE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS GET UP DOWN THE ROAD.

AND OF COURSE WE, IT'S THE WAY IT IS IN THE FIRE CODE.

SO WE CAN'T OBJECT TO THAT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 40 FOOT, I DON'T THINK, SINCE THE ONES NEXT DOOR ARE DOING IT.

THE, THE ONES ON 5 48 DID IT.

ALL THE WINDMILL FARMS DONE IT.

THIS IS A STORM SHORE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I'M LIKE YOU, I'D LIKE EVERYTHING BE 75 FOOT LOTS IF I COULD, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE.

I BET IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING THOUGH.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, I MEAN, WHAT ROCKWALL DOES ISN'T MY BUSINESS.

I MEAN, I MORE POWER FOR 'EM THAT IF THEY CAN CREATE EVERYBODY OVER THERE TO BE EQUAL.

BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT SO FAR AND, AND NOT, CAN I INTERJECT ON THAT? UH, DO DO WHAT I SAID.

CAN I INTERJECT ON THAT? UH, ONE THING I, I WAS GONNA SAY TOO IS OUR, THIS QUESTION COMING TO ME LAST WEEK AND OF COURSE I CALLED MONIQUE AND MONIQUE, IF I'M WRONG HERE, CORRECT ME PLEASE.

BUT OUR FRONTAGE ORDER NOT TO RESTRICT GROWTH OR TO INCREASE GROWTH, THAT'S NOT THE SCOPE OF THAT.

IT'S FOR SAFETY WHEN IT COMES TO SPEED TRAFFIC.

AND AT 30 MILE AN HOUR POSTED SPEED LIMITS, WHICH IS A GENERAL SPEED

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LIMIT OF COUNTY ROADS.

THAT'S GRANITE TO US BY THE STATE.

75 FEETS TO SAFE RULE FOR THAT.

SO ANYTIME WE GO OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVEN IF IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW IT'S ON PRIVATE STREETS AND ALL THAT, BUT IT STILL HAS CHILDREN AND THAT BRINGS UP EVEN HIGHER RISK AS, SO I'M ALL ABOUT THE SAFETY TOO, OF WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

IT'S NOT WHETHER YOU'RE GETTING MORE LOTS OR LESS LOTS, IT'S ABOUT WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A SAFE TRAVEL.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK JUST TRYING TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

SO YES.

AND I, AND I JUST TO, I THINK I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, POINT COMMISSIONER MOORE.

UM, I THINK THE, THE THINGS THAT THAT HELP WITH THAT IS OBVIOUSLY THE STANDARD BLOCK LENGTH, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT THESE LONG RACE DRIVEWAYS WHERE PEOPLE CAN PICK UP SPEED.

AND SO BREAKING UP THOSE BLOCK LINKS PER YOUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UM, IS A MAIN THING.

AND HAVING CURVY LINEAGE HERE REQUIREMENTS WHERE IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT RUN.

AND THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY COUNTER TO THAT OR I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT.

SO I I, I WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH THAT.

IS HAVING SPEED DECREASING ELEMENTS INCORPORATED IN THE STREET MAKE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE WE CAN DO.

UM, WHETHER THAT BE SPEED BUMPS OR, UM, INCORPORATING THAT KLINE CHAIR REQUIREMENTS AND BREAKING UP, BREAKING UP THE BLOCK LINKS TO 'CAUSE TO DETER FROM PEOPLE SPEEDING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

I I, IT ALREADY WENT THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE MYSELF.

I I I AGREE WITH THEM FROM A 50 FOOT.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UM, AS WELL THAT UH, THE COMMITTEE DID FIND THE COMPROMISE THAT THEY CAME UP WITH AND THAT THEY OFFERED WAS TO KEEP THE LOT, THE LOTS UNIFIED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH ROCKWALL COUNTY.

SO THAT IS WHY THEY DID OFFER TO ACCEPT A 50 FOOT LOT FRONT.

I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT THEY DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT IS THE REASON THAT THEY WERE AGREEABLE TO THAT INSTEAD OF 40.

SO, OKAY.

I'M GOOD AT THE, I'M GOOD AT THE 52.

I THINK THAT THE, THAT THE BIG, I MEAN WE HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND Y'ALL'S COMMISSION, BUT UM, FROM OUR LANDOWNER PERSPECTIVE, UM, ALL THAT MEANS IS THAT WE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT WE NEED TO GO FIND A CITY TO PLAT IN.

BECAUSE I CAN'T, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS, BUT TO THE, TO GO TO 40 TO 50, IT, IT, IT FEELS, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE, THE ZONING, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT FEELS LIKE A ZONING HURDLE.

UM, AND THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE NEED TO GO WORK WITH THE CITY BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF LOTS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT WE WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, SIR? WHY Y'ALL REMOVED, SIR? WHY DID YOU REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE ETJ IN THE FIRST PLACE? UM, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH, I I, I'VE DONE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT WITH, WITH THIS COMMISSION IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND I MUCH PREFER TO, TO PLAT WITH YOU GUYS THAN DALLAS SPECIFICALLY.

IT'S KIND OF FEELS ODD THAT THIS IS DALLAS, ETJI MEAN, IT'S JUST, IF Y'ALL HAVE WORKED IN DALLAS BEFORE, IT IS, IT'S JUST NOT THAT THEIR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY FINE.

IT'S JUST THERE'S NOT A PARTNERSHIP THERE.

YOU'RE A TRANSACTION.

AND I VIEW THIS AS MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP 'CAUSE THIS WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME I'M NOT BACK UP HERE OR GIVING YOU GUYS UPDATES AND, AND SO FORTH.

AND SO I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PLATTING WITH THE CITY.

THAT'S, HAS NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING.

HAVE THE WATER TO THAT SITE YET.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO YOUR PRECINCT, YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY? NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING EVERYTHING'S AROUND 'EM.

40 FEET.

THE ONE THAT'S NEIGHBORING MAN IS DOUBLE THE SIZE OF YOURS AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE 40 FEET ALL THE WAY OVER TO 'EM.

SO, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S UP TO EVERYBODY.

I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOING WITH SAFETY STUFF, BUT I MEAN, JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS ODD, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT HELPS THE COMMISSION, UM, I MEAN WE, WE ARE MORE WILLING TO, LIKE, WE WANT THIS TO BE A MARKET DECISION WITH THE BUILDERS.

LIKE RIGHT THERE IS A MARKET FOR A SMALLER, THE 40 FOOT LOTS IN THE FIFTIES.

I DON'T ENVISION THIS.

LIKE, I, I CAN TELL YOU TODAY THIS WHAT'S IN KAUFMAN COUNTY WILL NOT BE ALL FORTIES.

LIKE THERE WILL BE FIFTIES INCORPORATED.

WHAT I DON'T WANT IS NOT TO LOSE MY ABILITY TO MARKET TO SOME OF THOSE FORTIES.

UM, AND SO THIS WILL NOT BE ALL FORTIES IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

THERE WILL BE FIFTIES INCORPORATED.

WE JUST, YOU HAVE A NUMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 40% WOULD BE FIFTIES AND 60% WOULD BE FORTIES WOULD BE IDEAL FOR US.

THAT GIVES ME SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THE MARKET.

SO EVERYTHING IN ROCK WALL'S GONNA BE 50 FOOT? NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, THAT WON'T BE THE CASE.

I MEAN THIS IS JUST A PRE ROCK WALL'S NOT PRELIMINARY PLA.

'CAUSE WE DON'T

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SO IT'LL BE A MIX OF 40 AND FIFTIES IN ROCKWELL COUNTY.

THE ROCK WALL'S REQUIRING 50 FOOT THOUGH.

YEAH, THEY ARE.

WE'LL DO THE SAME, SAME REQUEST OF THEM.

WE JUST HAVEN'T, WE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANY PRELIMINARY PLA TO ROCKWALL.

WELL HERE'S, OR I'M JUST ASKING YOU SKI, ARE YOU LOOKING AT 40 OR 50? LIKE WHAT, ON YOUR OPINION ON THAT? I MEAN WHAT I MEAN IT'S YOUR AREA.

SO I WANNA RESPECT THAT.

THAT, I MEAN, BUT I JUST WANNA, IF WE DO GO WITH THE, IF HE, WHATEVER HE DECIDES THAT'S HIS AREA.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THAT IF, IF THEY DID DO 40 FOOT LOTS, THAT THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR SAFETY.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS FRONTAGE DEAL.

MEET THAT IT IS ACTUALLY WHETHER THEY HAVE TO WIDEN THE STREETS OR WHATEVER THAT IT, BECAUSE THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE NOT CROWDING EVERYBODY IN THERE.

IT'S LIKE, JUDGE SAID, YOU GOT CARS PARKED BUMPER TO BUMPER TO STRENGTH THE FULL LENGTH OF THE STRENGTH 'CAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY HOUSES THERE AND RIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT TWO CARS PLUS MAYBE A TEENAGER'S CAR AND THEN IT'S JUST A HEAVILY CONGESTED, UNSAFE SITUATION THERE.

SO, I MEAN, DID WE SIDE YARDS? DID WE, UH, IS IT STILL 10 FEET? IT USED TO BE FIVE.

WE MOVED TO TEN SIX.

SO THE REGS REQUIRE SIX FEET, UH, SIDE SETBACKS IF THE LOTS ARE NOT SERVICED BY ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITIES.

UH, DURING THE PROCESS OF THIS REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE, THERE WAS ANOTHER REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE WHERE THEY REQUESTED FIVE FEET SETBACKS AND THE COMMITTEE APPROVED THAT REQUEST.

DID WE MOVE OUR REGS TO 10 FEET? 10 FEET IF THEY'RE SERVICED FALL SITE SEWAGE.

BUT YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE CHANNELS? YES.

THE DRAINAGE.

SETBACKS INSIDE THE BOUNDARY IS, UM, SIX FOOT SCRATCH.

THEY, FOR VARIANCE FROM THE SIX FOOT WHEN WE ACCOMMODATED AND GAVE IN FIVE FOOT.

SO THERE WERE TWO VARIANCES CONSIDERED AND THAT ONE WAS APPROVED.

BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T, I THINK WE CAN BE REALLY CONSISTENT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, GUYS.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE 40 FOOT LOTS EVERYWHERE, THEN I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE, LIKE WE'RE SETTING SAID WE'RE SETTING APPRENTICE, WE'RE NOT SETTING APPRENTICE.

WE ALREADY DID IT.

YOU KNOW, WE DID IT WITH BRUCE AND ON THAT, I CAN'T SAY THE NAME OF THE DISTRICT ONE ON THE RIGHT, IT'S SOME MUD DISTRICT ON 5 48 WALDEN BOND.

WALDEN BOND WAS THAT PLOTTED THROUGH DALLAS? THAT WAS PLOTTED THROUGH DALLAS.

WAS IT DALLAS OR SO ALL OF THESE .

OH NO, WE, WE DID IT THROUGH US.

NO, WE DID IT.

WELL THAT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

BUT WE SAID IT 40 LOT.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THE TROUBLE IS IF, IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THE, IF THE ETJ IS GOING TO DO 40 FOOT, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE GONNA PUNISH SOMEBODY JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY CHOOSE TO PLAT WITH US AND DO IT WITH US INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE GROW UP ALL THE TIME ABOUT, OKAY, YOU GO TO DALLAS AND YOU GIVE ALL THEM PLANTING FEES AND ALL THAT AND THEY COME OUT HERE AND WE DON'T GET ANYTHING.

WE'RE GETTING SOME SITE HERE.

YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE IF AND, AND I DIDN'T SAY THE DISCUSSION'S OVER, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT'S GOING TO HELP.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I ASKED HIM THE FIRST TIME WHEN HE CAME THE FIRST TIME.

HE'S GOING TO HELP WITH ROADS AND THEY SAID YES, THEY'LL HELP US WITH I ROAD IF WE HELP THEM WITH THEIRS.

AND SO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK EVERYTHING OUGHT TO BE ABOUT SAFETY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS IS WHAT BOTHERS ME WORSE THAN THE, THE FOUR CARS WE'RE WORKING ON SITTING ON THE STREET.

BUT WE CAN'T, IT'S IN OUR REGS NOW 27 FEET.

SO WE NEED TO CHANGE AND THAT'S THE FIRE MARSHAL NEEDS TO CHANGE THAT WE'RE WORKING DOWN THE ROAD WITH, BECAUSE THESE PLACES DON'T HAVE OVERFLOW PARKING SO THEY PARK ON THE STREET SO THAT WE PEOPLE MOVE INTO THE HOMES AND START PARKING ON THE STREET.

IT NO LONGER MEETS FIRE CODE FROM DAY ONE.

AND SO THAT'S NOT GOOD.

MY KIDS LOOKING AT, AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 40 FOOT.

WHY, WHY ARE THEY NOT, THEY HAVE, WHY ARE THOSE NOT MARKED AS FIRE LANES? UM, AND HE'S, HE'S LOOKING AT THAT.

SO WE'RE GONNA AMEND THAT.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU, I I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE OVERFLOW ON.

YOU'RE HAVE ON THE STREETS.

ARE Y'ALL GOING TO DO SLANT CURBS? ARE YOU, ARE YOU GONNA ADD CONCRETE TO THE SIDES? YES.

SO YOU'RE GONNA DO 27 FOOT AND A THREE FOOT SLANT OR SOMETHING ON THE SIDE OR A TWO FOOT? WELL, HONESTLY, THE, THE BASE PLAN WOULD PROBABLY BE 50 FOOT, 31.

I LIKE THE EXTRA FOUR FEET PAST IT.

OH, IT'LL ACTUALLY BE 31 FOOT WIDE.

34 FOOT WIDE.

I LIKE TO HAVE, UM, AND, AND SO GENERAL DEAL IS THAT WE HAVE THE HOA TRY TO MAINTAIN IT.

I'M, I'M NOT, I I COULD, MONIQUE COULD CALL CAUSE ME ON THAT.

SO I KNOW HER TOPIC ON THAT.

HOA FINDS PEOPLE IF THEY PARK ON THE SIDE, UM, OVERNIGHT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE IT.

NOW THAT'S, I'M NOT GONNA STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT'S NOT HARD TO POLICE.

'CAUSE IT REALLY

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IS.

UM, BUT IF, WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, WE WANT THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO FIT A TRUCK OR A, A PASSENGER IF TWO CARS ARE DIRECTLY ON BOTH SIDES.

WELL THAT'S, YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT I ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH 'EM.

I SAID I WANT FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN THE STREET.

WELL, THEY HAVE TO.

AND ARE THESE SINGLE CAR DRIVEWAYS OR DOUBLE CAR DRIVEWAY? DOUBLE CAR.

DOUBLE CAR.

OH, DOUBLE CAR.

UH, WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO HIT NINE 40 FOOT LOTS ARE SHORT DRIVEWAYS.

YOU BARELY GET THE WHOLE CAR WITHOUT A VEHICLE.

SO TYPICALLY 25 FOOT SETBACK.

HUH? SETBACK IS HOW MUCH? 25? OH NO, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S FOR THE COUNTY ROADS FOR THE BUILDING SETBACKS ON THE, THAT'S THIS IS THEIR ROAD.

THEY'LL HAVE ABOUT 25.

THE, THE DRIVEWAYS WILL BE ABOUT 20 FEET.

AND, AND AND UH, THE, THE HOPE IS THAT YOU CAN FIT A, I THINK A MID-SIZE PICKUP OR A, YOU KNOW, A HALFTIME PICKUP IS 18 ISH.

SO YOU HAVE SOME ROOM THERE NOW.

IF THEY KNOW HOW TO DRIVE T DON'T LET DRIVE, DRIVE.

IT'S GOOD NEWS.

90 90% OF THE PEOPLE ARE BUYING SHORTER CARS NOW THAN THEY USED TO.

BUT I MEAN, THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STILL BUY PICKUPS, YOU KNOW.

BUT, UM, NO, I JUST THINK I JUST MYSELF, THE ONLY, THE ONLY, I JUST CAN'T FOR THE WIDER LOTS, JUST FOR THE SAFETY ISSUE IS THAT WHEN YOU DO 40 FOOT LOTS, YOU CANNOT ZIG EXACT YOUR DRIVEWAYS.

THEY'RE LIKE, NO, I KNOW.

SO THEN THERE'S NO WAY TO BACK.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LINE UP, THEY PARK ON THE STREET, THEY'LL LINE UP SITE VISIBILITY OF SOMEONE PULLING, I MEAN YOU'RE BUILDING APARTMENTS INSTEAD OF HOUSES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOUR HOUSES ARE BASICALLY, THEY'RE SO SMALL, THEY'RE ALL APARTMENTS.

I MEAN, CAN I MEAN, BUT THEY'RE YOURS.

YOU OWN THEM.

THE COURT WANTS US TO DO, ALRIGHT, SO WE DECISION TIME, NEED A MOTION.

WELL, I'M, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN I WOULD HUH? CAN I SAY ONE THING? SURE, SURE.

HE SAYS IT'S MIXED 40 AND 50.

SO MAKE YOUR VOTE.

DETERMINE THAT.

BECAUSE ARE WE GONNA DO WHAT, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE? IF YOU SAY HE DOES 40, HE GETS ALL 40.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF WHAT WHAT'S THE MIX? YEAH, I WOULD, I, WHAT I WOULD REQUEST OF THE COURT IS THAT, UM, THE FORTIES, NOT THE 40, THE FIFTIES, WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST 35% FIFTIES IN THE REST OF YOUR FORTIES.

THAT WOULD GIVE YOU FLEXIBILITY WITH THE MARKET.

35%.

SO, SO I GUESS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY IS IF WE'RE GONNA DO 50, THAT'S GONNA DECREASE.

IF WE'RE GONNA DO SOME IN EVERY SINGLE BLOCK, THERE'LL BE A A A SOME OR A WHOLE BLOCK WILL BE 50.

NO, IT IT'LL BE SOME.

I MEAN, OR WILL IT BE MIXED IN BLOCKS? IT IS ACTUALLY REALLY HARD TO MIX THE BLOCKS.

I'M JUST ASKING.

SO, SO, UM, THE, THE HOMES THAT SHARE BACKYARDS, FOR INSTANCE, UHHUH WILL ALL BE THE SAME LOT WIDTH.

'CAUSE I YOU DO WANNA LOT MATCH UP LOT LINES FOR ME.

MATCH IT UP.

FOR THE DRAINAGE.

THE DRAINAGE IS MAKES IT EASIER TO, TO, TO, TO MATCH UP.

SO SO WHAT ARE WE SAYING? 35? HE'S WANTING 35.

I'D LIKE TO DO 50 50, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION.

MM.

OR 60, 40, 35.

SO NOT VERY MANY SPEAK THAT FOR ME.

SAY WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.

I'M, I'M JUST KINDA LOOKING AT Y'ALL.

I UM, I DO THINK I, MY INTERPRETATION HERE IS WE'RE GONNA LAND PROBABLY 60 40, UM, IS PROBABLY WHERE THE MARKET DRIVES US.

UM, I'M JUST, I WOULD ASK FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY ON, UH, WE HAVEN'T RELAYED REPLANTED THIS YET, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL 40.

YOU'RE SAYING AT LEAST, AT LEAST 35 FOR SURE.

I JUST NEED WHATEVER'S DECIDED BECAUSE OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER'S GONNA NEED TO HAVE THE MINUTES TO SHOW WHAT SHE'S REVIEWING.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR CLARITY ON THAT.

EVERYBODY GOOD WITH 35, 40 WHATEVER, 40.

YOU GOOD WITH 40, 35, 30 5%.

DO 35%.

IT MAY TURN OUT TO BE 4% LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST A WORK OF PROGRESS.

LESS THAN 35.

WOULD I WORK, WOULD I ONLY WORRY ABOUT FOR THAT EXTRA 5% IS JUST, WE HAVEN'T LAID THIS OUT YET.

UM, AND SO JUST HAVING SOME VARIABILITY ON, SO YOUR MOTION IS NOT LESS THAN 35.

35 5.

AT 55 I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT THE 40 ODDS BE OKAY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AT LEAST 35% FIFTIES.

SO 35% OF IT'S GONNA BE 55, 50 FOOT LOTS.

35% AND THEY'RE ALL SLANT CURB.

THE, THE ROADWAY'S GONNA HAVE AT LEAST 31 FEET SO THAT WHEN YOU PARK ALL BE CONCRETE 31 FEET WIDE.

YOU GOT THAT? I DO BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT, THAT TO ME IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WAY.

MY CONCERNS.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WAY.

I'LL SECOND IT FOR YOU.

A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOR IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

NOW WE'RE MOTION BY MR. PHELPS.

HAVE

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A A THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL TRICKED ON THE 75 FOOT.

NORMALLY BY KNOW THE VARIANCE BOARD DID GIVE 'EM 50.

SO I MEAN IT'S WORKING WITH YOU GUYS DO IN THE COUNTY.

WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT ON OUR ROADS.

BUT THIS ROADS, AND THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I MEAN IT'S YOUR CITY.

NUMBER

[5. Catalina Ceballos with Development Services: Discuss/Consider/Approve the final plat for Arredondo Estates Phase 2 in Precinct 4. ]

FIVE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

CATALINA, UH, WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE FINAL PLEDGE.

A REDONDO ESTATES PHASE 2 360 4.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I SHOULD BE VERY EASY.

AON ESTATES PHASE TWO HAS COMPLETED THE FINAL PLAT PROCESS.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS AND MET ALL REQUIREMENTS.

AND WE'RE HERE FOR COMMISSIONER COURT'S APPROVAL COMMISSION IN YOUR PRECINCT TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE MOTION NOW.

MOTION BY MR. MOORE.

HAVE A SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF SAFETY EQUIPMENT OF FLOCKED SAFETY WITHIN UNIVERSITY DRIVE RIGHT OF WAY INCREASING PRECINCT TWO MORNING.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL THAT FAVOR SAY AYE.

[6. Jeremy Mungin: Diseuss/Consider/Approve the installation of safety equipment by Flock Safety within University Dr right-of- way In Precinct 2 ]

MORNING.

SO YES, WE WERE CONTACTED, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION OF FLOCK CAMERAS.

UM, I CONTACTED COMMISSIONER SKEE PHILLIPS YEP.

IN WHICH HE AGREED UM, TO ACCEPT THOSE.

AND I'M ASKING YOU GUYS PERMISSION, ARE THESE THE CITY OF FORNEY ONES? UH, OR IS THIS HUH? OH, THESE ARE, UM, OR COUNTY YES.

AT THE INTERSECTION OF UNIVERSITY BECAUSE I KNOW THE CITY ASKED FOR 'EM OUT THERE TOO.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. PHILLIPS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK, THANK YOU.

NUMBER SEVEN, COMMISSIONER MOORE

[7. Commissioner Moore: Discuss/Consider/Approve altering CR 4066 and a portion of CR 4072 from chip seal to rock and amend Precinct 4 Road and Bridge Report to reflect this change.]

DISCUSSED, CONSIDER AN APPROVE ALTER COUNTY ROAD 40 66 AND I 40 40 22 FROM CHIPS SEAL TO ROCK.

72 40 72 FROM CHIPS SEAL TO ROCK TO THE MAN PRECINCT FOR ROAD BREAD REPORT TO REFLECT THE CHANGE.

ON THIS ONE HERE, THIS IS GONNA BE ACTUALLY THE CHIPS, SEAL'S ALREADY DETERIORATED TO THE POINT IT'S ALL FALLING APART.

UH, THE RE I GET A LOT OF CALLS ON THESE ROSARIES, I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO 'EM YET.

'CAUSE IT'S PENDING POSSIBILITY OF THE WETLANDS GOING IN, WHICH THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE POINT TO THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT.

SO BEFORE I PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO A ROAD, IT'S GONNA BE DESTROYED.

I'D RATHER TAKE IT BACK TO ROCK NOW UNTIL THAT PROJECT EITHER HAPPENS OR DON'T HAPPEN.

AND THEN I CAN GO BACK AND RE IT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE, THEY'RE GONNA HELP YOU REBUILD IT BACK WHEN IT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IT AT ROCK.

I HADN'T HAD ANY, WE HADN'T GOT TO THAT POINT OF ANY AGREEMENT YET, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ROCK'S EASY TO REPAIR AND ESPECIALLY THEY'RE BRINGING IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

SO I'M JUST ASKING THE COURT TO LET ME DEGRADE THAT BACK TO THAT PORTION'S BACK TO GRAVEL FOR RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET THAT.

YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DEGRADE IT AND SO YOU'LL HAVE TO PUT IT BACK.

SO I MEAN, WHETHER THEY HELP OR NOT, IT'D BE NICE IF THEY WOULD.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COURT WAS GOOD WITH ME DOING THAT.

BEING I'M CHANGING THE SURFACE OF LAY BACK TO ROCKS.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO ANY QUESTIONS CHANGE THAT.

MM.

I DON'T BLAME HIM.

ICK TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO EVERY SECOND.

YOU GOT IT MR. BILL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVORS SAY MOTION PERIOD.

OKAY MS. I CONSIDER LINE

[8. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line item and budget transfers/corrections ]

ITEM TRANSFERS BUDGET.

YES SIR.

WE HAVE A FEW ROUTINE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

Y'ALL GOT THOSE LAST WEEK.

YOU'VE BEEN SIGNED TO REVIEW THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? NO.

NOT NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. CROW.

MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES MS.

[9. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor. ]

UM, BEFORE I DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND JUST SAY THAT WE ARE, OUR OFFICES HAVE MET.

BUDGET SEASON IS STARTED.

UM, SO OUR OFFICE IS WORKING ON GETTING OUT THE INITIAL BUDGET DOCUMENTS OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

SO THAT'LL BE COMING SOON.

AND WE WILL DO THAT THE SAME AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.

MM-HMM .

SEEM TO WORK OUT REALLY WELL.

WE'LL HAVE TIME SLOTS AND EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL GET NOTIFICATIONS TO WHEN TO BE HERE.

SO THIS WEEK WE HAVE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES MOSTLY MADE UP OF, UM, TIFF AND TAX REPAYMENTS.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE JUROR PAYMENTS AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR? MM-HMM.

YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. LANE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.