Jun 30, 2026 Commissioners Court

MR. CRO MAKES A SECOND.

MOTION CARRIED.

[3. Shannon Roden/Amy LaDue/Sandra Ray: Discuss/Consider an appeal of a Subdivision Variance decision made by the Development Support Committee for Parcel ID 246893, per Section 13.01.1.1 of the Subdivision Regulations.]

MS. SHANNON.

NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER AN APPEAL OF SUBDIVISION VARIANCE DECISION, EXCUSE ME.

MADE BY DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT COMMITTEE FOR PARCEL ID 2 4 6 8 9 3 PER SECTION 13 0 1 1 1 OF THE SUBDIVISION OF REGULATIONS.

GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE.

GOOD MORNING.

YES, MA'AM.

SO MS. SANDY RAY, UH, PURCHASED SOME PROPERTY FROM A NEIGHBOR ON COUNTY ROAD 3 45 EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND WHEN SHE APPLIED FOR AN ADDRESS, THE ADDRESSING TEAM WAS UNABLE TO ASSIGN AN ADDRESS BECAUSE THERE WAS A FRONTAGE ISSUE.

UH, UH, BASED ON THE SURVEY, THERE'S 20 FEET OF FRONTAGE AND IT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, PER THE FRONTAGE ORDER.

AND THEY ALSO DETERMINED THAT IT DIDN'T APPEAR THAT THAT WAS PROPERLY SUBDIVIDED.

IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS.

SO THEY REFERRED HER TO LAND DIVISION AND I BEGAN WORKING WITH HER.

UM, I MET WITH HER ON APRIL 8TH AND WE DISCUSSED, UH, THE VARIANCE, UM, PROCESS THAT SHE COULD APPLY FOR THAT.

UH, AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD REVIEW THAT REQUEST.

WE ALSO, UH, DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE DRIVEWAY SPACING BECAUSE AGAIN, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD, IT SEEMED THAT THE DRIVEWAYS DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM 20 FOOT REQUIREMENT ALSO ON THE FRONTAGE ORDER.

UM, WE DID EXPLAIN THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE HER APPLY FOR THAT UNTIL WE SPOKE TO PRECINCT THREE TO DETERMINE IF THE CULVERTS THAT WERE OUT THERE WERE PROPERLY PERMITTED.

BECAUSE IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN THERE MAY NOT BE A NEED FOR THAT VARIANCE IF THAT HAD GONE THROUGH THEM FOR APPROVAL.

UM, SO I CAN LET COMMISSIONER LANE SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

UM, WE ENDED UP GETTING THE VARIANCE APPLICATION FOR FRONTAGE.

THE COMMITTEE DID REVIEW THAT REQUEST AND DURING THAT, UH, REVIEW IT WAS ALSO NOTED THAT THE LOT DID NOT MEET THE USABLE SPACE CALCULATIONS BECAUSE OF A POND AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

SO AGAIN, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T WANNA PLACE ANY UNDUE BURDENS ON HER.

WE HAD TO APPLY FOR THE ONE VARIANCE THAT WAS THE, THE MAJOR OBSTACLE, WHICH WAS THE FRONTAGE.

RIGHT.

WE STARTED THERE, BUT THE COMMITTEE FOUND THAT THEY COULD NOT APPROVE THAT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE BECAUSE OF THE OTHER VARIANCES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THEY, THEY DENIED THE VARIANCE.

SO ACCORDING TO OUR REGULATIONS, MS. RAY CAN APPEAL THAT DECISION AND MS. AMY LADUE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON HER BEHALF TODAY.

MS. RAY IS ALSO HERE.

AND IF THEY CAN MAKE COME UP NOW SURE.

AND SPEAK TO YOU.

COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OFF AND ON THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

COME UP.

UM, HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE ALLEN.

YES MA'AM.

YO, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER COME TO THIS MEETING.

IT'S KIND OF EXCITING.

YEAH, IT'S UH, YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.

AMY LADU.

I WORK WITH JOHN BURT.

I'M HIS SISTER TO .

SO I HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE.

UH, YOU DON'T MIND IF I HAND OUT A MAP TO NO, NO.

FINE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF GET A GOOD PICTURE OF THIS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

SO, UM, I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, SHANNON AND MONIQUE AND ALL THE FOLKS AT COFFMAN

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AND I KNOW THEY HAVE THEIR HANDS FULL.

YOU ALL DO WITH THE WILD WEST.

THAT IS KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE MANAGED.

UM, WE COME ACROSS THESE CASES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND THEY'RE SO UPSETTING BECAUSE MS. RAY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FROM, UH, THE COX FAMILY AND WAS GIVEN NO INFORMATION ABOUT THESE COUNTY REGULATIONS.

HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING ABOUT ANY OF THIS.

AND IT'S NOT AS IF THERE'S A SPEED LIMIT SIGN SOMEWHERE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NOT, SHE HAD THE PROPERTY SURVEYED AND THE SURVEYOR DID NOT MENTION THIS.

THE SURVEYOR'S OUTTA BUSINESS NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

FOR HEALTH REASONS.

SO NO RECOURSE THERE.

UM, WENT THROUGH RANGER TITLE, NOBODY SAID A WORD.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY DON'T ALL HAVE THAT OBLIGATION TO DO SO, BUT YOU WOULD KIND OF THINK SOMEBODY WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET PERMITTED FOR THIS.

SO SHE HAS SPENT QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS.

IT IS NOT MONEY THAT YOU KNOW IS GONNA BE RECOUPED THIS PROPERTY.

IF YOU DENY THIS, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANY VALUE AND SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO ANOTHER PATHWAY.

SO WE ARE JUST HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER THAT THIS IS A SMALL ASK, UM, FOR THIS 9 1 1 VARIANCE.

AND HOPEFULLY YOU'D APPROVE THE OTHER ONES TOO, BECAUSE IT IS A SMALL HOUSE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING SMALL CABIN YEAH.

TO BE NEXT TO HER DAUGHTER WHO WAS HERE.

YES.

UM, SO BASICALLY HER RETIREMENT HOME.

SO, UH, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT, SANDRA? WELL, MY HEALTH IS FAILING.

MM-HMM .

AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO BE CLOSER TO MY ONLY DAUGHTER.

SURE.

IT'S JUST EASIER IF I'M THAT CLOSE RATHER THAN IN RICHARDSON WHERE I AM NOW.

AND WE JUST FEEL LIKE THESE ARE, SHE'S TRULY A VICTIM AND IF YOU HAD KNOWN YOU WOULD'VE NO, I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN SCAMMED SOMEHOW.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO WE'RE JUST APPEALING THAT YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER, UM, GIVING HER THAT VARIANCE SO SHE CAN SET UP HER LITTLE HOME AND BEING NEAR HER DAUGHTER.

SO ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO ADD? I UNDERSTAND.

AND, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE OTHER, OTHER ASPECTS TO THIS THAT, THAT AREN'T MEETING THE, THE CRITERIA OF THE REGULATIONS EITHER THAT THEY'VE RUN INTO MM-HMM .

UH, I CAN'T RECOMMEND TO, TO GIVE YOU A VARIANCE MYSELF REALLY BECAUSE I JUST, LIKE I SAY, THERE'S PROBABLY THREE, TWO OR THREE MORE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THAT, THAT STILL WOULDN'T, STILL WOULDN'T MEET IT.

MM-HMM .

WELL IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S FRUSTRATING 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD WE'VE GOT THE NEIGHBOR WITH THE PILES OF JUNK AND YOU KNOW, WE SEE SO MANY OTHER COUNTY VIOLATIONS.

OH SURE.

AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DEALING WITH IT.

I KNOW YOU GOT YOUR HANDS FULL.

IT'S NOT REALLY CRITICISM.

OH YEAH.

BUT WE JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS SUCH A TINY ASK FOR A SINGLE PERSON IN A TINY HOUSE TO HAVE THIS SPACE MADE AVAILABLE SO SHE DOESN'T LOSE HER INVESTMENT OR GET HUNG UP IN A BIG LAWSUIT, WHICH IS NOTHING YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO, BUT YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.

AND SO, YEAH.

SHE'S JUST OUT.

NOW MAY I ASK YOU THE COX NEXT DOOR, IS IT YOUR FAMILY? NO.

IS IT A STRANGER TO YOU DON'T KNOW THEM FRIENDS FOR MANY YEARS.

THAT WOULD THEY NOT BE WILLING TO GIVE YOU A, I'LL SAY YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GET YOU THAT FRONTAGE.

THEY DON'T HAVE IT TO GIVE.

I KNOW WE HAVE CERTAIN, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT HERE IS USABLE SEWAGE OR SEWER.

THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE TODAY IF WE SAY YEAH, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU ON THE FRONTAGE NEXT IT'S GONNA BE, HEY, WE HAVE ONE MORE PROBLEM, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE USABLE SEWAGE SPACE.

WHICH ALL THE PEOPLE WE DENY, WE DENY EVERY WEEK.

NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ONE ACRE USABLE SPACE.

AND IT'S LIKE ONCE WE OPEN THIS, IT BECOMES PANDORA BOX WHERE YOU DID IT FOR HER.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T, WE HAVE TO KIND OF VIEW THAT LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD.

UH, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE I SEE THAT IF WE, GRANTED THIS WOULD BE CREATING A SECOND PROBLEM AND THEN MAYBE A THIRD PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, UH, NOT BEING COMPASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR NEEDS AND WANTS.

IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO VIEW ALL OF THAT.

SO, BUT WELL I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RECOURSE PEOPLE HAVE LIKE THIS.

'CAUSE THIS, WE'VE SEEN, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT.

OBVIOUSLY IF THEY HAD A REALTOR, IT'D BE ON THE REALTOR, BUT THIS WAS JUST A REALLY SIMPLE TRANSACTION, DIDN'T REQUIRE A REALTOR.

RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE JUST GETTING STUCK AND WE FEEL LIKE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL ADJUSTMENTS.

IT'S NOT AS IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THREE HOUSES OR THREE MOBILE HOMES GOING IN.

IT'S ONE LITTLE HOUSE, ONE LITTLE PERSON.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE SEPTIC PROBLEM, BUT HOPEFULLY THERE WOULD BE A SOLUTION TO THAT.

SELL ME BECAUSE I THINK YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WELL I JUST, LIKE I SAY, I, HOW ABOUT THE NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOU? DID, SHE'S NOT WILLING TO SELL RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WOULD NEED TO

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TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE, THE AMOUNT TO BE ABLE TO, SO YOUR SEPTIC WOULD HANDLE TOO, IF YOU COULD GET JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OFF HER OR ONE OF 'EM FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, THEN THAT THEN WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER VARIANCE TOO FROM HER KIND OF PIECE OUT TO GET THAT DONE THEN COME BACK.

BUT THEN IF YOU DO THAT, THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY MEET THE REGULATIONS.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK FROM, WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK.

YOU KNOW.

SO WHAT'S THE LAND? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE LAND SIZE? IT'S ONE POINT 0.5.

SO THERE'S GOT A FLOOD PLAIN.

IS THAT A FLOOD PLAIN? IT'S A POND.

IT'S A WETLAND POND AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WETLAND.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A FLOODPLAIN THOUGH.

IT'S NOT A FLOOD PLAIN.

IT'S JUST, IT'S A POND.

IT'S THAT YOU CAN'T SPRAY SEWAGE, YOU CAN'T SPRAY IN THE WETLAND BECAUSE OF THE, THE EASEMENT REQUIREMENT OFF OF THE POND.

THE NET CALCULATION OR THE ROUGH CALCULATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED INDICATE THAT IT'S GONNA FALL JUST BELOW THE USABLE SPACE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE.

I'M NOT A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, SO I DON'T, I DON'T DO THOSE CALCULATIONS.

IT WAS DISCOVERED DURING THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMITTEE.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

SO YOU GOT A REC, WHAT'S YOUR MOTION? I'M, I'M, UH, I I'M SORRY BUT I'M RECOGNITION NOT TO DENY THE VARIANCE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MOTION CARRIES.

I'M HOPING YOU CAN GET SOMETHING DONE ON ONE NEIGHBOR OR THE OTHER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES MA'AM.

WELL THANK ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU HONOR.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER

[4. Commissioner Crow: Discuss/Consider/Approve an lnterlocal Agreement between Kaufman County Precinct 1 and the City of Oak Grove for road work repair on CR 158, CR 159, Crest Ln, Lois Ln, Palmer and Highland Dr.]

FOUR, COMMISSIONER CROW.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AN APPROVED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT ONE AND THE CITY OF OAK GROVE FOR ROAD, ROAD WORK ON COUNTY ROADS.

1 58, 1 59 CREST LANE, LOCE, LANE PALMER AND HIGHLAND DRIVE.

YES.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND PATCH, PATCH ALL THE HOLES.

THEY GOT A BUNCH OF HOLES.

STANDARD.

YEAH, WE STANDARD.

YOU MAKE THAT IN FORM OF A MOTION.

YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

MR. MOORE, DISCUSS CONSIDERING AN APPROVED OR WORK SITE RELEASE, TEMPORARY OR CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH INDIAN OAKS GOLF COURSE TO FACILITATE PROPER DRAINAGE ALONG COUNTY ROAD 40 67.

A MOTION CARRIES

[5. Commissioner Moore: Discuss/Consider/Approve a work site release-temporary construction easement agreement with Indian Oaks Golf Course to facilitate proper drainage along County Road 4067.]

YES, THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, THIS CULVERT WAS PUT IN LIKE 40 YEARS AGO.

THE ORIGINAL CULVERT, OUR CULVERT THAT WAS PUT IN THEIR CULVERT RUN INSIDE OF OUR CULVERT WAS A SMALLER CULVERT AND THAT ONE UNDER THE, UNDER THE FENCE.

SO I ATTACHED SOME PICTURES UNDER THE LITTLE GOLF COURSE TRAIL, BUT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT WATER OFF THAT ROAD, WE HAD TO PUT IN A LARGER CULVERT SYSTEM.

BUT IT JUST NEEDS TO PUT TWO CULVERTS IN THERE SO THAT THE WATER WILL FLOW TO GET THE ACCESS OFF ROAD.

SO BEING IT'S PARTIALLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, JUST UNDER THAT FENCE, I WANTED TO GET APPROVAL THROUGH YOU GUYS, MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD TO DOING THAT.

AND KEN'S ALREADY AGREED TO THAT.

YEAH, KEN'S ALREADY SIGNED THE FORM AGREEING TO OKAY.

UH, ALLOWING US TO DO THAT.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TEMPORARY SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. LANE MAKES A SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

[6. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line item and budget transfers/corrections.]

A MOTION CARRIED.

MS. AUDITOR, UH, BUDGET TRANSFERS.

LINE ITEM.

YES, SIR.

SO THIS WEEK WE DO HAVE A FEW ROUTINE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS, AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

Y'ALL SAW THOSE LAST WEEK.

QUESTIONS NEED MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION PLAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. KROLL MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, CI AYE.

MS. ARCHER ONCE AGAIN CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

MOTION CARRIES.

[7. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

THIS WEEK WE HAVE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES, MOSTLY MADE UP OF COUNTY ROAD EXPENDITURES AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A FEW JUROR, UM, PAYMENTS AND WE ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO PAY THOSE.

AGAIN.

Y'ALL HAVE HAD THOSE SINCE LAST WEEK.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. LANE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. TROLL MAKES A SECOND.