* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] OKAY, [1. To discuss the FY26-27 budget.] I WELCOME EVERYONE WHO'S LISTEN IN THIS MORNING OR WATCHING TODAY IS A WORKSHOP ONLY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PAYROLL, THE POSITION, NO DECISIONS WILL BE MADE TODAY. THIS IS ALL, UH, A, A, UH, WHAT IF THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER ONE. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE OUR TAXES COMPLETED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT YET. THAT'S FOR THE END OF THE MONTH. AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS BEFORE ANYTHING IS TRUTH DECIDED. UH, THEY WILL TRY AND DO A CONSENSUS ON SOME ITEMS. IF IT'S EASY TO DO AND OTHERS, WE WILL NOT DO IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UH, JUDGE ERNIE WILEY. AND SO, YES, MA'AM, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. WELL, THANK YOU, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, IT'S A REPEAT. I'M, I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, BUDGET NUMBER TWO. IT'S NOTHING NEW. I WENT OVER IT, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME REAL NUMBERS. AND WHEN I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT OVERALL WITH THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WENT DOWN ON AND WHAT WE REQUESTED, I MEAN, BRANDY'S GOT ALL THAT. BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DIG INTO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING AS FAR AS POSITIONS, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TODAY. WE'RE ASKING A CHANGE, A POSITION THAT IS OUR RECEPTIONIST. AND IF YOU WANT THE NUMBERS, I CAN GO THOSE NUMBERS WITH YOU. AND THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, AN INCREASE IS, UM, IT'S REALLY JUST TO MAXIMIZE THAT POSITION. UH, TO ME IT'S A EASY, ABOUT 7,500 AT 74 29 POSITION. THAT PERSON, UM, IS MORE THAN A RECEPTIONIST. WE TRY TO DO THAT ANYWAY. WE'D PROBABLY START 'EM OUT AT THE LOWER, BUT THEN GIVE THEM MORE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR INTAKE. I'VE GOTTA GET MORE PEOPLE INTAKE. WE CAN, I BROUGHT ON MY PHONE, I HAVE SOME NUMBERS OF PULLING NUMBERS OUT FOR OTHER COUNTIES OF HOW MANY CASES WE RECEIVED AND FELONY, HOW MANY CASES WE'VE GOT. MISDEMEANOR. UM, SURE. THE SHERIFF WILL TELL Y ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK. AND OF COURSE IT'S FOR US ALL OVER THE COUNTY, THE CITY TARRELL, IT'S ALL OF Y'ALL'S PRECINCTS. SO WE JUST HAVE MORE CASES FILED. WE HAVE TO PROCESS THE WORK. UM, WE HAD, UM, LOST SOMEBODY. AND SO WE WERE ONE DOWN. WE HAD GOTTEN TO WHERE WE WERE 200 CASES DOWN. THAT IS NOT A GOOD NUMBER. THAT MEANS THERE'S 200. THAT MEANS THE POLICE HAVE FILED CASES AND WE CAN ENTER 'EM FAST ENOUGH TO GET 'EM TO THE COURTS. THAT IS NOT GOOD. 200 CASES IS NOT GOOD. THAT'S A TOO HIGH OF A NUMBER. WE'RE DOWN BECAUSE, AND THAT WORKS BACK TO THE OTHER CONVERSATION JUDGE, WE'VE HAD ABOUT, UM, OVERTIME COMP TIME. BECAUSE TO GET THE NUMBERS DONE, I THINK IT, IT, IT'S BETTER TO GET A POSITION. SO THAT'S JUST TO FILL THAT POSITION. BUT THEN WE ACTUALLY NEED ANOTHER FULL-TIME INTAKE PERSON, AND THAT IS A PARALEGAL TWO. SO WE'RE ASKING TO BUMP WHAT IS A PARALEGAL ONE, WHICH IS THE RECEPTIONIST. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEN IF WE'LL HAVE ANY REALLY PARALEGAL ONES. I DON'T THINK IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S A ONE. BUT THEN IT'LL BE, EVERYBODY ACTUALLY WILL BE A PARALEGAL STARTING AT TWO. SO WE NEED ANOTHER INTAKE. I, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT NUMBER LIKE AT THE END OF THE WEEK, I'D LIKE TO SAY WE'RE UNDER 50 CASES SO THAT, THAT WE'RE ALWAYS CHURNING OUR CASES AND GETTING 'EM INTO THE COURT SO THEY CAN, THOSE CASES CAN BE HEARD. 'CAUSE IT IMPACTS EVERYTHING. IT IMPACTS HOW FAST THE PROSECUTION HAPPENS. IT IMPACTS HOW FAST. WHAT WE DO TO KEEP UP, SO WE DON'T GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE JAIL, IS WE PULL ALL THE INMATE CASES OUT, BUT THAT LEAVES ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE ON BOND TO WAIT TILL WE CAN GET TO 'EM. 'CAUSE NOBODY CAN SIT IN THE JAIL ON A FELONY MORE THAN 90 DAYS, AS Y'ALL KNOW, MORE THAN 30 DAYS ON MOST MISDEMEANORS. SO WE PULL THE JAIL CHAIN FIRST, BUT THAT BACKLOGS EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE THROUGH THE QUIETEST GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAPPEN TO BE WOMEN, THEY'RE ALWAYS OVER THERE WORKING. IT'S JUST, JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME OF THE DAY. AND AS YOU ADD COURTS, WE'VE NEVER ADDED INTAKE. SO WE'VE GOT MORE COURTS, WE'VE GOT MORE INTAKE. SO WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED AN INTAKE. I'D LIKE TO EXPAND THAT POSITION. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO WITH THE INCREASE IN WHAT THAT RANGE IS GONNA BE FOR WHAT OUR RECEPTIONIST IS, I MEAN YOU LOOK AT THE INTAKE RIGHT THERE, THOSE TWO, IF THEY'RE FULLY STAFFED, THAT WOULD INCREASE WHAT WE HAVE EXISTING. AND THE OTHER, AND THOSE ARE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. AND I'LL LET YOU CHEW ON THAT, SEE IF ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GET TO WHAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, WHICH IS THE ATTORNEYS. Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT INTAKE? I WAS TALKING TO SHERIFF ON THE WAY, YOU KNOW, OVER EVERY, EVERY AGENCY THINK ABOUT ALL THE GROWTH, UM, SKE OR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IN YOUR LIKE MORE PRECINCT TWO, THEY FILE THOSE CASES. SO WE'VE GOT JUST LOTS OF CASES. I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY'S CONSTABLES FILE CASES. YOURS JUST THE MOST, WELL, SINCE I'M THERE AND I SEE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, I SEE HOW [00:05:01] THE COURTS ARE. SO YOU HOW THE JURIES COME AND GO. AND I MEAN YOUR OFFICE PROBABLY TOO MUCH, BUT IT ALL STARTS WITH THOSE CASES. MM-HMM . SEE HOW BUSY EVERYONE IS. IT IS. I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU ABLE TO KEEP 200 JUST THE NUMBERS ALONE. YES. AND I JUST, I, BUT THAT'S AGAIN, YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. GET US THE CASES FILE, WE'LL WORK THE CASES. BUT WHEN THEY COME IN OUR OFFICE, WE HAVE A CHECKLIST. AND WHEN THEY HIT THE CHECKLIST, I'M A OFFICE THAT ACCEPTS EVERYTHING. I DON'T SCREEN ANYBODY'S CASES OUT. IF YOU CAN SHOW PROBABLE CAUSE OR YOU FILE THE CASE, IT'S OUR, WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT. WE TAKE EVERYTHING. SO I'M, I CAN'T RUN THE NUMBERS DOWN BY SAYING I'M NOT GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY'S CASE. THAT'S NOT HOW WE WORK OUT HERE IN CALIN COUNTY. THE POLICE SAY, I SAY IT, IT'S A CASE. BUT THEN THE PERSON, DEPENDING ON HOW THE ARREST IS DONE, MAY NOT GET ARRESTED. IF IT'S AN AT LARGE WARRANT, I MEAN THERE'S, IT IS JUST A, GOTTA BRING THAT DOWN. THAT'S EASY. THAT'S AN EASY, IT MIGHT NOT BE AN EASY ASK, BUT THAT'S A AN WILL HELP US FIX THAT. AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE IN A COUPLE YEARS IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE. WE DON'T THINK ABOUT ADDING THAT POSITION. IF WE EVER ADD A COURT, WE, WE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. BUT WE'RE OKAY. UM, 'CAUSE I THINK ABOUT WE'VE ADDED THE FAMILY VIOLENCE AND, AND THE CHILD ABUSE WITH THE, UM, WE CALL IT THE SPECIAL VICTIMS, BUT WE NEVER ADDED INTAKE TO TAKE THEIR CASES. SO IT'S JUST, WE JUST ADDED POSITIONS WITH, THROUGH OTHER GRANTS. UM, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED ONE POSITION MIGHT WELL, THAT'S THE FELONY TO JUVENILE PROSECUTOR. YEAH. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL WANNA DO THAT. MIGHT BE FOR THE GRANT. OKAY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT, UH, SHERIFF WILL TELL YOU LATER. 'CAUSE I TALKED TO HIM TODAY. WE APPLIED FOR AN AUTO TASK FORCE GRANT. AND YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SENT ME. 'CAUSE YOU WERE THE CONTACT PERSON, YOUR OFFICE, THAT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT GRANT. WE WERE ASSURED WE WOULD GET IT. THE SHERIFF DID ALL THE WORK. AND THAT AUTO PERSON IS, WAS ALSO ASSISTING, UM, OUR GANG UNIT GUY. AND AS, AS RYAN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING THE SHERIFF, WE STILL HAVE TO MEET THE NEEDS. I MEAN OF, THERE'S A LOT OF, HE CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT IT THAN I CAN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF NEED FOR THIS AUTO TASK FORCE. A LOT OF CRIME. THE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE CRUX OF A LOT OF THINGS, MOST CRIMES COMMITT, IT'S IN A STOLEN CAR. SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'VE GOT A JUVENILE, UH, PERSON THERE AS WELL. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT WE MAY NEED. I'M TEARING UP MY PANTS, SORRY. THAT WE MAY NEED, UM, SINCE WE DIDN'T GET THAT GRANT, WE'VE GOT THE JUVENILE PERSON, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH THE AUTO TASK, KIND OF WEAR TWO HATS. SO WHAT I SAID THERE IS, UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON THROUGH HIS CONTRACTS HAS OFFERED TO PROVIDE FUNDING. IF THE COUNTY CAN'T, I APPRECIATE THE OFFER. I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER, I'M NEVER BEEN ON A CONTRACT WITH, UH, THE WAS AT A, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING HE TOLD ME. AND IF THEY KNEW THAT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY NEED, YOU'D NEED TO SEE THE CONTRACT TO SEE WHAT GUARANTEED. YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE FOR PEOPLE, THAT MAKES 'EM A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THAT POSITION IN THE CONTRACT OUT AND THEY'VE COME ON, THEN THEY'RE OUT AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. SO THOSE ARE JUST, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON. SO DEFINITELY WE'RE LOOKING AT SUPPORT STAFF MORE THIS YEAR. SO JUST TO SHORE UP OUR ATTORNEYS. SO THAT WOULD BE FINISHING OUT AND CHANGING A POSITION, ANOTHER INTAKE POSITION. AND THEN THERE WAS A PARALEGAL POSITION ON THERE AS WELL. IT'S, IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH FOR THE SUPPORT THE ATTORNEY. IF Y'ALL, IF THINKING THAT'S HOW Y'ALL WANT US, ME TO GO TALK TO JASON, SEE THE CONTRACT, I CAN DO THAT. BUT WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF THOSE CONTRACT PEOPLE. THAT'S TRUE. SOMETIMES THAT WORKS WELL AND THEN IT CAN'T GO AWAY. WELL, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, WE'VE GOT A GANG GRANT. I MEAN, HOW MANY GRANTS DO WE HAVE, BRANDON? WE'VE GOT THE GANG GRANT, PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE. YEAH. AND THOSE AND THAT. AND WE'VE GOT, UH, FAMILY VIOLENCE, UH, PARALEGAL, AND THEN THEY REIMBURSE US. IT'S GREAT. AND YOU'VE GOT, I'VE GOT ANOTHER PARALEGAL ON GRANT. THOSE GRANTS GO AWAY. I MEAN, THAT'S A HUGE ABSORPTION. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS MOVING SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE OVER THIS YEAR JUST TO GET USED TO IT. STILL TAKE THE REIMBURSEMENT BUT MOVE IT ALREADY INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN GET USED TO IT. JUST LIKE IN LISA'S DEPARTMENT DOWN THERE, THAT GRANT PRECINCT. RIGHT. THOSE GRANT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT, I HAVE AN OPINION, I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THE IN DEFENSE GRANT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS MEETING BECAUSE IT'S A GRADUAL, OURS ARE REALLY FORTUNATE THAT THEY GIVE YOU THE, UH, THE TOTAL MONEY. [00:10:01] I THINK FOR THE MOST PART. SO OURS HAS BEEN A ZERO. THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S AT FOOT IN AUSTIN WITH SOME OF THE FINANCING BECAUSE THINK ABOUT THE GANG GRANT, THE TEXAS ANTI-GANG. WE WERE SURE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO. OH, IT'S UNLIMITED FUNDS. THE AUTO, THE REASON WE APPLIED, OH, THERE'S PLENTY OF FUNDS AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT ANTI-GANG, THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND THAT'S WHEN THE BUSIEST PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE. AND THEN THE THING WITH THE AUTO APPLIED AND THEN YOU GOT THE NOTICE THAT, THAT WE DIDN'T GET. THAT DIDN'T GET, I'M SURPRISED WE DIDN'T GET THAT. I'M VERY SURPRISED BECAUSE THE WAY THEY CAME OUT LIKE GANGBUSTERS AND TOLD US IT WAS A DONE DEAL. MAYBE WE'LL FIND THAT MORE NEXT WEEK AT THE CONFERENCE. Y'ALL EARS OPEN AND THEN YES, THERE'S SOMETHING I DON'T, I DON'T QUITE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOMETHING IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AUSTIN, ALL THESE MANDATES, BUT NO FUNDING. BUT FOR ME, I NEED SUPPORT. I NEED, UH, TO SHORE UP THAT RECEPTIONIST POSITION. I NEED ANOTHER INTAKE. MAYBE ANOTHER PARALEGAL, A GANG PROSECUTOR THAT I'M GONNA GET TO WHERE TWO, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, A JUVENILE PROSECUTOR THAT'S GONNA HELP WITH JUVENILE. WE HAD, SO Y'ALL KNOW, WE DIDN'T, WE HAD A JUVENILE PROSECUTOR AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF YEAR THAT PERSON LEFT AND THEN WE ABSORBED THEM INTO THE, UM, ANOTHER UNIT THAT WAS LACKING. SO WE'VE HAD 'EM, WE WE NEED A JUVENILE PROSECUTOR. WE GOT ONE PERSON DOING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, CASE CHILD DEPENDENCY CASES AND JUVENILE. AND YOU KNOW HOW CRAZY CPS IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH FUNDING THAT GOES INTO THAT. SO SHE'S HANDLING ALL THOSE CASES AND ALL THE JUVENILE. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE WHAT I'VE GOT GOING ON. ANY QUESTIONS GUYS? JUST, JUST GOTTA FIND, FIND THE MONEY OR NO MONEY. YOU GOTTA FIND THE MONEY NOW. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU DO. AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S NOT, I KNOW YOU WOULD FUND IT TOTALLY IF YOU COULD. OUR CHECKBOOK'S NOT BALANCED YET. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO. I REALLY DO. BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW BECAUSE I, I NEED IT. AND THAT'S WHY I SIGNED UP. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I NEED, YOU WILL KNOW. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I THANKS GUYS. ANY COMMENTS? I DON'T BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE GIVEN YOU ALL THE FIGURES. YOU'VE GOT IT. WE HAVE IT ALL. OKAY, Y'ALL. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE GOOD DAY. SEE, I'M DONE EARLY. WHY SHE'S STILL HERE. ANY CONCERNS? ANY QUESTIONS? IS AT THE TIME TO SAY SOMETHING YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE HER SUBJECT? YES. I, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, I KNOW A COUPLE YEARS AGO, EVERYBODY BEST TAKE FRED MONEY. SO WE OPENED ALL THESE POSITIONS. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO A REVENUE BRANCH PERSONALLY. AS LONG AS YOU'RE GIVING THIS MONEY TAKE, WE SHOULD TAKE THE FREE MONEY. AND YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THOSE ADDITIONS. YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S GOOD TO ASK THEM TO CONTRIBUTE THE HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THE ISSUES I THINK SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MONEY. WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE GRANTS. WE'RE NOT TURNING ANY GRANTS DOWN. BUT BARRY, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE I SHOULD REALLY TALK TO JASON ABOUT THAT CONTRACT? YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THEY SHOULD HELP. OKAY. I MEAN THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE PROBLEMS ARE. NOT ONLY THEM, BUT IS THE GRANTS KIND OF. SOME OF THEM FACE UP THOUGH. HOPEFULLY OUR GROWTH, WE CAN PICK THAT UP, BUT WE STILL NEED THAT POSITION. OTHERWISE WE WOULD'VE TAKEN THE GRANT. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S GOOD ENOUGH AMOUNT. GRAND IS BECAUSE WE DON'T COLLECT MONEY UNTIL AFTER THEY'RE HERE. YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TAXES, WE DON'T COLLECT REVENUE FROM PEOPLE UNTIL THEY'RE HERE OVER A YEAR. RIGHT? YES SIR. SO I MEAN, AT LEAST WHEN YOU GET A GRANT, AT LEAST MAYBE THAT'LL HELP GET THROUGH A YEAR BEFORE YOU START CLICKING MORE NEW MONEY. AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DO HAVE TO COLLECT SOME NEW MONEY. YOU CAN'T EVER DO NO NEW REVENUE. 'CAUSE IF YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL BEFORE YOU EVEN START. YEAH. ONE, ONE. BECAUSE IN WAY I THINK WE ALREADY FINANCED THAT POSITION AND NUMBER REIMBURSED REIMBURSEMENT. SO WHAT DO WE NORMALLY GET REIMBURSEMENTS ON? IS THAT LIKE SOMETHING THAT COMES MID YEAR OR FIRST OF THE YEAR? IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE GRANT. HONESTLY, MOST OF THEM ARE QUARTERLY. QUARTERLY. BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GETTING IT IN REAL TIME. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING TO HELP EARL'S CASE OF, HEY, WHAT IF THIS ENDS? I MEAN, IF WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED SOMETHING WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED IN THERE, THEN IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, AT LEAST WE KNOW WE'RE SAFE FINANCIALLY ON THAT IF WE HAVE TO GONNA KEEP RESERVE. YEP. YEAH. UM, YEAH, I'M JUST SITTING , I KNOW MORE AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR ABOUT THAT GANG GRANT FOR 27. I MEAN, WE ARE FUNDED THROUGH THIS YEAR ON, ALL OUR GRANTS ARE FUNDED THIS YEAR. MM-HMM . IT'S GOING. SO [00:15:01] THE THINGS I'M ASKING FOR ARE NEW, LIKE THE JUVENILE PARALYMPIC, BUT I PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE CONDITION. THEY'RE FUNDED THROUGH 2026. I THINK I CAN BE AND WHINE OUT OF THOSE FOUR OR FIVE TWO. BUT I, I DO THINK THEY FORCED JUST THE REALITY OF IT. WELL THAT HAPPENS. I MEAN, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THEY COME AND THEY GO, THEY COME AND THEY GO AND WE JUST WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR EVERYTHING THAT EVEN LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT GET IT. WE'RE GOING APPLY. WELL, 'CAUSE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU'LL FIND OUT ABOUT A GRANT UNTAPPED. JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT BUT YOU STILL CAN'T APPLY UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN USE. YEAH. EVERYBODY'S GETTING SMART ON IT. RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH OTTO, RIGHT? YEAH. I THINK THEY BEEN AROUND TOLD THEY'RE UNTAPED AND NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT 'EM. 'CAUSE THAT THING HAD BEEN RUNNING PRE LAST FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. WE JUST DON'T TELL THEM SOMEBODY WILL BEAT US TO THE, OKAY. WE CAN'T DO THAT. OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL GET THERE. WE'LL GET THERE. WE, WE'LL FIND OUT. WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT NEXT WEEK. YES. WE'LL . ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, WE WILL TAKE A BREAK UNTIL, UH, DR. JOHNSON GETS HERE. OKAY. WE'RE BACK AGAIN. WE HAVE DISTRICT JUDGE WITH US CASE THERE. . IT AIN'T NOT. I'VE BEEN CALLED TO WORK ON THE BENCH. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WAS GONNA TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT. AS, AS I'M SURE Y'ALL AWARE, AS SENATE BILL NINE HAS PUT A LOT MORE ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND IN THE MAGISTRATION PROCESS, UM, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS OBVIOUSLY IT WAS BAIL REFORM AND THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO THAT, RIGHT? BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS, UM, IT GIVES, IT'S A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT ON BOND ON OUR CASES. AND THEN OF COURSE, PEOPLE THAT WE PICK UP THAT ARE OUT ON BOND ON OTHER COUNTIES BONDS, ALL RIGHT? SO THERE'S AN OUTGOING AND AN INGO ALRIGHT? AS FAR AS THE COURTS ARE CONCERNED, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT ON OUR BONDS THAT PICK UP NEW CASES OTHER PLACES. SO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE AND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID WAS PUT THAT ON THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE TO COME UP WITH THOSE SYSTEMS AND MAINTAIN 'EM. ALRIGHT? ONE OF THOSE IS, SO THE NOTIFICATION FROM THE OTHER COUNTIES WHEN IT COMES IN, IT GOES, I HAVE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO TAKE THOSE, UM, THOSE NOTICES AND GET IT TO THE JUDGE THAT NEEDS TO KNOW THAT, RIGHT? THEN IT'S UP TO THAT JUDGE TO HAVE A BOND HEARING IMMEDIATELY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON SHOULD STAY ON BOND OR NOT. RIGHT? SO I APPOINTED JOHNNY WHITE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE HE IS OUR PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISOR. WHAT HE DOES IS HE TAKES THAT, UM, SONNY, MY COORDINATOR GETS THE NOTICE AND JOHNNY GETS THOSE NOTICES, RIGHT? THOSE GO OUT TO THE PROSPECTIVE JUDGES AND THEY'RE LEFT TO DO WHAT IT IS, WHAT THEY WANT TO, RIGHT? ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ALSO HAD TO SET UP WAS, UM, A REVIEW PROCESS. ANY COUNTY, WHICH IS MOST COUNTIES WHERE THE, UM, THE JUDGES THAT MAGISTRATE THE BONDS, RIGHT? THAT DO THOSE INDIVIDUAL MA MAGISTRATION, UH, THEY DON'T USUALLY HAVE, UM, UH, JURISDICTION OVER THOSE CASES, RIGHT? SAME WAY WE HAVE HERE, THE JPS CAN HANDLE FELONY MAG, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE CASE. SO ANYTIME THAT HAPPENS, THE LEGISLATURE HAS MADE IT TO WHERE, UH, THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY GO TO A DISTRICT JUDGE. UM, WELL, WHAT IT SAYS, THE DIS THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE WILL COME UP WITH A REVIEW PROCESS WHERE THAT JUDGE CAN THEN REVIEW THE JPS DECISION, RIGHT? SO IF THEY DON'T LOCK WHAT THE BOND IS, IF THE DIS, IF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DOESN'T LOCK WHAT THE BOND IS, THEY CAN THEN IMMEDIATELY FILE A REVIEW FOR A DISTRICT JUDGE TO SEE, RIGHT? UM, AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT HAS TO BE HEARD WITHIN 24 HOURS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO IF AND OR BUTS THAT CAN BE DONE HAS TO BE DONE BY THE NEXT DAY. ALL RIGHT? IF THAT PERSON IS STILL IN CUSTODY, WE'LL HAVE A HEARING. IF THAT PERSON IS OUT OF CUSTODY, THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A REASONABLE TIME TO APPEAR AT THAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE CREATE A SUMMONS. THE DISTRICT CLERK THEN SENDS THOSE OUT. OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE THEY GAVE A GOOD ADDRESS ON THEIR BOND, UM, WHICH THEY SHOULD HAVE. AND WE SEND THOSE SUMMONS TO THEM. WE HAVE A HEARING, RIGHT? I SAY ALL THAT AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IF A LITTLE MICROCOSM AS TO WHAT EXTRA HAS BEEN PUT ON THE SYSTEM AND HOW THESE THINGS ROLL. RIGHT? UM, THEY PUT ALL OF THAT ON THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY DID THAT. AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, IT'S NOT [00:20:01] VERY EASY, UM, FOR, FOR, FOR US TO GET THAT LAST JUDICIAL PAY RAISE THAT WENT THROUGH. UM, THEY ALSO ADDED A, A, UM, COMPENSATION FOR MYSELF BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE THINGS. RIGHT? UM, AND SO ALL I'M ASKING IS TO CREATE ANOTHER TITLE FOR THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE, UH, COORDINATOR. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED IT WAS GONNA BE A NEW TITLE. IS THAT CORRECT, RANDY? UM, WE DISCUSSED A NEW TITLE AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED A SUPPLEMENTAL PAY. UM, YEAH, I'M GOOD. HOWEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO THAT. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHICHEVER MAKES MORE SENSE. YEAH, WHICHEVER ONE MAKES MORE SENSE TO Y'ALL. UM, MOST OF THAT WORK GOES UPON THE, AS Y'ALL KNOW, MY STAFF, UM, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY, I'M THE ONE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND HAVING THOSE HEARINGS, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO, UH, CONTROL THAT AND PUSH THAT THROUGH. CONVERSELY, WHILE I'M IN CHARGE OF GETTING ALL THE INCOMING, THE COMMISSION, UH, THE JUST, UH, JUSTICE OF THE PIECE, THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF OBVIOUSLY EXTRA WORK GOING THE OUTGOING, RIGHT? SO THEY'VE, THEY'RE NOW TASKED TO NOT ONLY DO THE EXTRA MAGISTRATION, THEY, THEY GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED OUR PSRS SYSTEM. THEY HAVE TO LOG IN IN THERE, THEY HAVE TO PUT THE BELL FORMS NOW ON THOSE SYSTEMS. SO ANYBODY ACROSS THE STATE CAN LOG IN AND SEE. HOPEFULLY THE IDEA IS THAT THE OFFICER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT SORT OF BELL CONDITIONS THAT PERSON HAS. IF THEY'RE VIOLATING THOSE, THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY BE REVOKED OFF THOSE BELL CONDITIONS AND BE BROUGHT IN. ALRIGHT? SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND IN THEORY WORKS, OBVIOUSLY WE STILL HAVE SOME KINKS THAT WE STILL NEED TO WORK OUT STATEWIDE AS FAR AS THAT SYSTEM IS CONCERNED. BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORKING. I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE J IT DOES PUT EXTRA WORK ON ANY MAGISTRATE HERE IN OUR COUNTY. IT'S THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE WHO DO THAT FOR THE MOST PART. SO IT DOES MAKE AN EXTRA STEP FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE REPLICATING, THEY'RE DOING IT TWICE. THEY'RE DOING THE, THE PAPER VERSION THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING OVER TO THE PSR SYSTEM AND PUTTING THEM IN THERE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? DO Y'ALL HAVE, I MEAN, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND THAT WON'T ALWAYS STAY WITH ME PARTICULARLY, UM, I'VE LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT TWO YEARS I EXPECT ONE OF THEM TO TAKE OVER AS THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE. BUT UNTIL THEN, I DO THINK IT SHOULD GO WITH EITHER A SUPPLEMENT OR A TITLE, HOWEVER Y'ALL THINK WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. UM, THE LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN ME, UH, A 3% RAISE, UM, COMPENSATION BECAUSE OF THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR SUPPLEMENT TO BE DONE ON HER TOO. I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO KEEP IT AS A SUPPLEMENT, THEREFORE, IF YEAH, WHOEVER THE NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT PERSON. THE TITLE OVER HERE AND THEN ANOTHER TITLE HERE, THEN IT JUST GOES, IT'S A SUPPLEMENT FROM 1, 2, 3, 4, WHOEVER, WHEREVER IT GOES. YEAH. AND THAT, THAT LEAVES EVERY, ALL THE COURT COORDINATORS THE SAME. YEAH. AND THAT WAY IT'S JUST A SUPPLEMENT FOREVER IS THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE COORDINATOR. SO WHOEVER Y'ALL, HOWEVER Y'ALL THINK, I MEAN, Y'ALL, THE, I'LL TELL YOU HOW THE LOGISTICS WORKS OF THE, THE, THE LEGAL SIDE ON HOW WE'RE HANDLING SENATE BILL NINE. AND ALL THAT REALLY DOES IS PIGGYBACK FROM SENATE BILL SIX FROM OUR, THE PRIOR LEGISLATURE WHERE THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT BAIL REFORM AND IT DOES THAT EXTRA THINGS. UM, AND, UM, THEY NOTICED THAT, SO THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE ME, UM, OR THEY, NOT SPECIFICALLY ME, IT WAS FOR THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGES ACROSS THE STATE, UM, UH, AN EXTRA COMPENSATION OF 3%. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, THREE 5%. AND I THINK, UH, I KNOW THAT IT, IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA WORK. I, THERE I KIND OF WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVING TO GO THROUGH SO IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER LITTLE THING. WELL, AND I DID JUST LET ME, UM, SHE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING THIS, UH, I'LL JUST PUT ON THERE THE EXTRA STUFF THAT, BESIDES JUST THE SENATE BILL NINE AND SENATE BILL SIX STUFF. UH, SHE KEEPS OUR, UH, MEDIATOR WILL ALL OF OUR WILLS THAT GO ON OUR WEBSITE UP TO DATE. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING. UM, JUST THE OTHER DAY, JUDGE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, NEW ORDERS FOR SALARIES, UM, UH, FOR THE AUDITOR FOR, UM, UH, CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ALL WE WERE TALKING PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. UM, SHE PREPARES ALL THOSE. UM, SHE AS THE ONE THAT GETS ALL THOSE DONE, SHE COORDINATES ALL THE JUDGES MEETINGS, WHICH WE USUALLY DO MONTHLY. I THINK I'VE INVITED QUITE A FEW OF Y'ALL TO ATTEND THOSE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. UM, SHE DOES THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF THE PURCHASING AND THE AUDITOR, WHICH, UH, WE'RE UP TO DO, UM, VERY SOON, UH, COORDINATES THE PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THE COURT REPORTERS AND THE, UH, AUDITOR AT THAT TIME, UH, SCHEDULES AND COORDINATES THE MEETINGS FOR [00:25:01] PROBATION AND BUDGET. SHE SCHEDULES AND COORDINATES THE MEETING FOR OUR COURTHOUSE SECURITY. AND I THINK KELLY, I THINK YOU'RE ON THAT NOW. SO, UM, I THINK S***T WAS ON THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, SHE HAS TO, SHE DOES ALL THAT. WE DO ALL THESE ANNUALLY. I, AND THEN, UH, SHE ALSO KEEPS TRACK OF ALL OUR EXTRA COURTS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE THAT EXTRA ROOM NEXT TO MY COURT UPSTAIRS, UH, WHICH HAS AG COURT, UH, THE VET, CPS, UM, AND Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN UP THERE ON ANY TIME, THAT'S QUITE A LARGE DOCKET THAT WE HAVE QUITE FREQUENTLY, RIGHT? SO, UH, SHE COORDINATES THOSE. UM, AND THEN AS Y'ALL KNOW, WHEN WE GOT THE NEW COURT, THE FOUR 89TH, SHE WAS THE ONE WHO DID DOUBLE DUTIES AS FAR AS COORDINATOR GOES, COORDINATING, UM, BOTH THOSE COURTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD BEFORE WE GOT JUDGE GRAY APPOINTED TO THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THE FOUR PER, I MEAN, THE $4,000 SUPPLEMENT IS EQUIVALENT TO THE 5% INCREASE THAT JUDGE IS GETTING. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. I GOT A DOCKET I'M GONNA GET BACK OVER TO, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. THANK, I APPRECIATE IT. ASHLEY, IS FINISH COMING? HE IS COMING, YES. OKAY. HE'S NOT SCHEDULED FOR THIS. ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER BREAK. YES, SIR. OKAY, WE'RE BACK AGAIN. WE FOUND THIS JUDGE WITH US CASE . I'VE BEEN CALLED TO WORK ON THE BENCH. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WAS GONNA TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT. AS, AS I'M SURE Y'ALL AWARE, UM, SENATE BILL NINE HAS PUT A LOT MORE ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND IN THE MAGISTRATION PROCESS, UM, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS OBVIOUSLY IT WAS BAIL REFORM AND THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO THAT, RIGHT? BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS, UM, IT GIVES, IT'S A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT ON BOND ON OUR CASES. AND THEN OF COURSE, PEOPLE THAT WE PICK UP THAT ARE OUT ON BOND ON OTHER COUNTY'S BONDS, ALL RIGHT? SO THERE'S AN OUTGOING AND AN IN ONGOING, RIGHT? AS FAR AS THE COURTS ARE CONCERNED, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT ON OUR BONDS THAT PICK UP NEW CASES OTHER PLACES. SO WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE AND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID WAS PUT THAT ON THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE TO COME UP WITH THOSE SYSTEMS AND MAINTAIN 'EM. ALRIGHT? ONE OF THOSE IS, SO THE NOTIFICATION FROM THE OTHER COUNTIES WHEN IT COMES IN, IT GOES, I HAVE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO TAKE THOSE, UM, THOSE NOTICES AND GET IT TO THE JUDGE THAT NEEDS TO KNOW THAT, RIGHT? THEN IT'S UP TO THAT JUDGE TO HAVE A BOND HEARING IMMEDIATELY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON SHOULD STAY ON BOND OR NOT, RIGHT? SO I APPOINTED JOHNNY WHITE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE HE IS OUR PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISOR. WHAT HE DOES IS HE TAKES THAT, UM, SONNY, MY COORDINATOR, GETS THE NOTICE, AND JOHNNY GETS THOSE NOTICES, RIGHT? THOSE GO OUT TO THE PROSPECTIVE JUDGES AND THEY'RE LEFT TO DO WHAT IT IS, WHAT THEY WANT TO, RIGHT? ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ALSO HAD TO SET UP WAS, UM, A REVIEW PROCESS. ANY COUNTY, WHICH IS MOST COUNTIES WHERE THE, UM, THE JUDGES THAT MAGISTRATE THE BONDS, RIGHT? THAT DO THOSE INITIAL MA MAGISTRATES, UH, THEY DON'T USUALLY HAVE, UM, UH, JURISDICTION OVER THOSE CASES, RIGHT? SAME WAY WE HAVE HERE, THE JPS CAN HANDLE FELONY MAGISTRATES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE CASE. SO ANYTIME THAT HAPPENS, THE LEGISLATURE HAS MADE IT TO WHERE, UH, THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY GO TO A DISTRICT JUDGE. UM, WELL, WHAT IT SAYS, THE DIS THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE WILL COME UP WITH A REVIEW PROCESS WHERE THAT JUDGE CAN THEN REVIEW THE JPS DECISION, RIGHT? SO IF THEY DON'T LOCK WHAT THE BOND IS, IF THE DIS, IF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DOESN'T LOCK WHAT THE BOND IS, THEY CAN THEN IMMEDIATELY FILE A REVIEW FOR A DISTRICT JUDGE TO SEE, RIGHT? UM, AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT HAS TO BE HEARD WITHIN 24 HOURS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO, IF, ANDS, OR BUTS THAT CAN BE DONE HAS TO BE DONE BY THE NEXT DAY, ALL RIGHT? IF THAT PERSON IS STILL IN CUSTODY, WE'LL HAVE A HEARING. IF THAT PERSON IS OUT OF CUSTODY, THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A REASONABLE TIME TO APPEAR AT THAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE CREATE A SUMMONS, THE DISTRICT CLERK THEN SENDS THOSE OUT. OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE THEY GAVE A GOOD ADDRESS ON THEIR BOND, UM, WHICH THEY SHOULD HAVE, [00:30:01] AND WE SEND THOSE SUMMONS TO THEM. WE HAVE A HEARING, RIGHT? I SAY ALL THAT AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IF A LITTLE MICROCOSM AS TO WHAT EXTRA HAS BEEN PUT ON THE SYSTEM AND HOW THESE THINGS ROLL. RIGHT? UM, THEY PUT ALL OF THAT ON THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY DID THAT. AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, IT'S NOT VERY EASY, UM, FOR, FOR, FOR US TO GET THAT LAST JUDICIAL PAY RAISE THAT WENT THROUGH. UM, THEY ALSO ADDED A, A, UM, COMPENSATION FOR MYSELF BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE THINGS. RIGHT? UM, AND SO ALL I'M ASKING IS TO CREATE ANOTHER TITLE FOR THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE, UH, COORDINATOR. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED IT WAS GONNA BE A NEW TITLE, IS THAT CORRECT, BRANDY? UM, WE DISCUSSED A NEW TITLE AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED A SUPPLEMENTAL PAY. UM, YEAH, I'M GOOD. HOWEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO THAT. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHICHEVER MAKES MORE SENSE. YEAH, WHICHEVER ONE MAKES MORE SENSE TO Y'ALL. UM, MOST OF THAT WORK GOES UPON THE, AS Y'ALL KNOW, MY STAFF, UM, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY, I'M THE ONE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND HAVING THOSE HEARINGS, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO, UH, CONTROL THAT AND PUSH THAT THROUGH. CONVERSELY, WHILE I'M IN CHARGE OF GETTING ALL THE INCOMING, THE COMMISSION, UH, THE JUST, UH, JUSTICE OF THE PIECE, THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF OBVIOUSLY EXTRA WORK GOING THE OUTGOING, RIGHT? SO THEY'VE, THEY'RE NOW TASKED TO NOT ONLY DO THE EXTRA MAGISTRATES, THEY, THEY GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED OUR PSRS SYSTEM. THEY HAVE TO LOG IN THERE, THEY HAVE TO PUT THE BELL FORMS NOW ON THOSE SYSTEMS. SO ANYBODY ACROSS THE STATE CAN LOG IN AND SEE. HOPEFULLY THE IDEA IS THAT THE OFFICER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT SORT OF BELL CONDITIONS THAT PERSON HAS. IF THEY'RE VIOLATING THOSE, THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY BE REVOKED OFF THOSE BELL CONDITIONS AND BE BROUGHT IN. ALRIGHT? SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND IN THEORY WORKS, OBVIOUSLY WE STILL HAVE SOME KINKS THAT WE STILL NEED TO WORK OUT STATEWIDE AS FAR AS THAT SYSTEM IS CONCERNED. BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORKING. I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE J IT DOES PUT EXTRA WORK ON ANY MAGISTRATE HERE IN OUR COUNTY. IT'S THE JUSTICE OF THE PIECE WHO DO THAT FOR THE MOST PART. SO IT DOES MAKE AN EXTRA STEP FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE REPLICATING, THEY'RE DOING IT TWICE. THEY'RE DOING THE, THE PAPER VERSION THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING OVER TO THE PSR SYSTEM AND PUTTING 'EM IN THERE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? DO Y'ALL HAVE, I MEAN, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND THAT WON'T ALWAYS STAY WITH ME PARTICULARLY, UM, I'VE LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT TWO YEARS I EXPECT ONE OF THEM TO TAKE OVER AS THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE, BUT UNTIL THEN, I DO THINK IT SHOULD GO WITH, UH, EITHER A SUPPLEMENT OR A TITLE, HOWEVER Y'ALL THINK WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. UM, THE LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN ME, UH, A 3% RAISE, UM, COMPENSATION BECAUSE OF THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR A SUPPLEMENT TO BE DONE ON HER TOO. I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO KEEP IT AS A SUPPLEMENT, THEREFORE, IF YEAH, WHOEVER THE NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT PERSON, THE TITLE OVER HERE AND ANOTHER TITLE HERE, THEN IT JUST GOES, IT'S A SUPPLEMENT FROM 1, 2, 3, 4, WHOEVER, WHEREVER IT GOES. YEAH. AND THAT, THAT LEAVES EVERY, ALL THE COURT COORDINATORS THE SAME. YEAH. AND THAT WAY IT'S JUST A SUPPLEMENT FOREVER IS THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE COORDINATOR. SO WHOEVER Y'ALL, HOWEVER Y'ALL THINK, I MEAN, Y'ALL, THE, I'LL TELL YOU HOW THE LOGISTICS WORKS OF THE, THE, THE LEGAL SIDE ON HOW WE'RE HANDLING SENATE BILL NINE. AND ALL THAT REALLY DOES IS PIGGYBACK FROM SENATE BILL SIX FROM OUR, THE PRIOR LEGISLATURE WHERE THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT BAIL REFORM AND IT DOES ADD EXTRA THINGS. UM, AND, UM, THEY NOTICE THAT, SO THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE ME, UM, OR THEY, NOT SPECIFICALLY ME, IT WAS FOR THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGES ACROSS THE STATE, UM, UH, AN EXTRA COMPENSATION OF 3%. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, THREE 5%. AND I THINK, UH, I KNOW THAT IT IS LOT OF EXTRA WORK. I, THERE, I KIND OF WHAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH SO IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER LITTLE THING. WELL, AND I DID JUST LET ME, UM, SHE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING THIS, UH, I'LL JUST PUT ON THERE THE EXTRA STUFF THAT I, BESIDES JUST THE SENATE BILL NINE AND SENATE BILL SIX STUFF, UH, SHE KEEPS OUR, UH, MEDIATOR WILL ALL OF OUR WILLS THAT GO ON OUR WEBSITE UP TO DATE. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING. UM, JUST THE OTHER DAY, JUDGE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, NEW ORDERS FOR SALARIES, UM, UH, FOR THE AUDITOR FOR, UM, UH, CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ALL WE WERE TALKING PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. UM, SHE PREPARES ALL THOSE. UM, SHE AS THE ONE THAT GETS ALL THOSE DONE, SHE COORDINATES ALL THE JUDGES MEETINGS, WHICH WE USUALLY DO MONTHLY. I [00:35:01] THINK I'VE INVITED QUITE A FEW OF Y'ALL TO ATTEND THOSE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. UM, SHE DOES THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF THE PURCHASING AND THE AUDITOR, WHICH, UH, WE'RE UP TO DO, UM, VERY SOON, UH, COORDINATES THE PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THE COURT REPORTERS AND THE, UH, AUDITOR AT THAT TIME, UH, SCHEDULES AND COORDINATES THE MEETINGS FOR PROBATION AND BUDGET. SHE SCHEDULES AND COORDINATES THE MEETING FOR OUR COURTHOUSE SECURITY. AND I THINK KELLY, I THINK YOU'RE ON THAT NOW. SO, UM, I THINK S***T WAS ON THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, SHE HAS TO, SHE DOES ALL THAT. WE DO ALL THESE ANNUALLY. UM, AND THEN, UH, SHE ALSO KEEPS TRACK OF ALL OUR EXTRA COURTS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE THAT EXTRA ROOM NEXT TO MY COURT UPSTAIRS, UH, WHICH HAS AG COURT, UH, THE VET, CPS, UM, AND Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN UP THERE ON ANY TIME, THAT'S QUITE A LARGE DOCKET THAT WE HAVE QUITE FREQUENTLY, RIGHT? SO, UH, SHE COORDINATES THOSE. UM, AND THEN AS Y'ALL KNOW, WHEN WE GOT THE NEW COURT, THE FOUR 89TH, SHE WAS THE ONE WHO DID DOUBLE DUTIES AS FAR AS COORDINATOR GOES, COORDINATING, UM, BOTH THOSE COURTS AS WE MOVED FORWARD BEFORE WE GOT JUDGE GRAY APPOINTED TO THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THE FOUR PER, I MEAN, THE $4,000 SUPPLEMENT IS EQUIVALENT TO THE 5% INCREASE THAT JUDGE IS GETTING. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. I GOT A DOCKET I'M GONNA GET BACK OVER TO, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. ASHLEY, IT'S FINISH COMING. HE IS COMING, YES. OKAY. HE'S NOT SCHEDULED. WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER BREAK. YES, SIR. [00:45:01] GOOD [00:45:02] MORNING, JUDGE. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD MORNING, MR. TRI. COME ON FORWARD. OKAY. SHARE WITH US WHAT YOU WANT TO ALRIGHT. ASK HIM. WE CAN TELL YOU. NO . THINK I GOT A MINUTE. THAT DIDN'T START OUT. WELL, I'M NOT GOING BACK. . GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY. GOOD. UH, WHAT, WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO IS DO SOME CHANGES AT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO GET READY FOR THIS FACILITY. UH, WE MET ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WITH CAMERON. AND, UH, THE GOAL IS FOR US TO START GETTING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, EVERYTHING PROGRAMMING, READY TO GO FOR THE, FOR THE BUILDING. SO WITH THAT ANTICIPATION, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE SAY, WELL, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING AROUND THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT BEFORE I START. WHAT WE GONNA DO IS WE GONNA FULLY PAY FOR THESE CHANGES AND RAISES ONCE APPROVED BY THE JUVENILE BOARD THROUGH STATE FUNDING. IT WON'T BE ANYTHING TO THE COUNTY. I WON'T MAKE THAT GOING FORWARD, OKAY? OKAY. OKAY. JAY IS RIGHT NOW DEPUTY CHIEF AT NO CHANGE. WE'RE GONNA MOVE HIM UP TO ASSISTANT CHIEF. ANDRE MARRIED TO NORMALLY COME WITH ME. HE'S GONNA BE THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE VIVIANA MORALES FROM QUALITY ASSURANCE TO PROGRAM COORDINATOR. BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE FACILITY AND THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMMING, UH, PROGRAMS NOW THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S OVER THERE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE STUFF GOING CONSTANTLY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EVALS, WE HAVE, UH, LIFE SKILLS, WE HAVE COMMUNITY SERVICE, WE HAVE, UH, EQUINE THERAPY, AND THAT'S JUST ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE YEAR ROUND AT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT SHE WOULD BE DOING. HILLARY SULLIVAN IS A COURT OFFICER RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT SHE'S GONNA DO, SHE'S GONNA TAKE VIVIANA PLACE AS THE QUALITY ASSURANCE COORDINATOR AND WHAT THAT IS, SHE'S GONNA HELP US WITH THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES. SHE'S GONNA WRITE IT. SHE'S GOOD WITH THAT. AND, UH, UH, MAKING SURE, UH, SHE'S REAL GOOD WITH, UH, RUNNING REPORTS AND KEEPING EVERYTHING GOING FAR AS OUR STANDARDS, BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE DETENTION CENTER AND THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT IS STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. RIGHT. AND SHE'S GONNA BE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE KEEPING UP, UH, MONITORING THE STANDARDS. SO WE ARE IN, UH, IN ON STANDARDS, HUH? COMPLIANCE, COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARDS AND, UH, I THINK THAT'LL BE GOOD. WE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY SO WHEN, BECAUSE ONE THING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WHEN WE HAVE THE DETENTION CENTER, THEY'RE GONNA MONITOR US EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THEY'RE REALLY TOUGH ON THAT DETENTION CENTER ASPECT. SO I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD MOVE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS MOVING TO TONY TORRES, WHICH HE'S BEEN HERE A WHILE. WE GONNA MAKE HIM THE LEAD PROBATION OFFICER, UH, UH, FOR THE SUPERVISION SIDE OF THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S IT. AND LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD BE FUNDING THIS STRICTLY THROUGH THE, ON THE STATE SIDE AND NOTHING TO THE COUNTY SIDE. I'M WRITING THAT DOWN HERE, SO, OKAY. , NOTHING COMES. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. . NOW, THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, THIS IS JUST A QUESTION, IS UHHUH, I KNOW YOU GET FUNDED TO PAYROLL THROUGH THE STATE NOW. YES SIR. DOES THE BENEFITS COME THROUGH THE COUNTY THOUGH? WOULD THAT CHANGE OUR BENEFITS SIDE THOUGH, THAT WE NEED TO DOCUMENT? I COULD, I COULD ADD THAT ON IF WE, UH, IT WILL CHANGE THOSE NEEDS I GET WITH, UH, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND UH, WE'LL ADD THAT ON WHATEVER WE DO. OKAY. TO ENSURE THAT WE COVER THE BENEFITS AS WELL. SO MY, MY GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE ANY COST TO YOU GUYS. YEAH. THE STATE PICKS UP, UM, ALL THE BENEFITS AS WELL. YES. OKAY. ACCEPT THE BENEFITS END TO THE STATE. YES. LIKE THE RETIREMENT, SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT. YES. MM-HMM . THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE WON'T BE OUT. YOU GUYS WON'T BE, THE COUNTY WON'T BE OUT ANY MONEY. OKAY? MM-HMM . AND I KNOW YOU WORKED HARD ON IT. DO YOU EVER THINK ORGANIZING, WE APPRECIATE THAT. MM-HMM . BIG, A BIG, UH, DEAL FOR US. IT IS NEW ESPECIALLY. YES SIR. IT IS. . MAKE SURE IT WORKS. YES. WE GOT TO GET TO WORK. YES. WE GOT A GOOD ADVISOR. IT HAS TO WORK. IT DOESN'T CHOICE. THE HERE'S GONNA HELP US TREMENDOUSLY. YES. UH, A GOOD ASSET FOR US. YES. AND THAT'S WHY I'M MONITOR. I'M UM, I'M GOING OUT THERE AND, UH, DOING WHAT HE HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN PLACE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, IS MAKE SURE I ALWAYS MODEL HIS DEPARTMENT AS WELL SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. NO, WE DON'T. THERE YOU GO. MM-HMM. VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. VERY GOOD. WE WANT OURS TO BE JUST AS, AS WELL. MM-HMM . ANYTHING MR. TRISH? THAT A GREAT JOB. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. ALWAYS SMILING. UH, I, YES. . OH, YOU MIGHT AS WELL. YOU SAY THAT, THAT , [00:50:01] YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE ALWAYS HELPING THE PEOPLE, YOU SMILE. YEAH, I TRY. YES. APPRECIATE YOU'RE ALWAYS HELPING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. ALRIGHT, HAVE A GOOD DAY. ALRIGHT. Y'ALL DO THE SAME. I DUNNO WHAT TAB ON HERE TODAY? STEVE'S IN HERE, ISN'T HE? MM-HMM . NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM. WHAT COLOR? HE'S ONE SIXTY TWO. PURPLE 10 ON MY PHONE. THAT'S THE LIBRARY, ISN'T IT? NO, NO. LIBRARY. FOUR PURPLE, TEN FIRST PURPLE, PINK AND THEN PURPLE. OH, ANOTHER PURPLE UP TOWARDS THE, YEAH, I FOUND OKAY. YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE PURPLE. I TRIED TO BUY THE ONE THAT HAS VARIETY IN . YOU GET ONES WITH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE THIS ONE UP TO THE FRONT ONE. THERE YOU GO. THERE. YEAH. MINE DOESN'T HAVE A TAB ON HIS IS TABLET. COME ON, MR. STEVE. PAYROLL. ON MY TAB. JACK CAN PUT A TAB ON BACK CALL. NO, I'M UPSET NOW. I DON'T WANT, I'M VERY SORRY YOU DON'T HAVE A TAB. I KNOW, I KNOW. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, SIR. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. UH, WANTED TO GET BACK UP HERE AND, UH, TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON, FULL-TIME PERSON TO MY OFFICE. UH, I THINK IN THE BUDGET PACKAGE THAT I'D SENT OUT, WE'D PUT IN THERE ALL THE STUFF ABOUT WHAT, UH, WE'RE DOING AND EVERYTHING AND THE, THE NEED. AND IT WILL ALSO HELP WITH OUR, OUR COMP TIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, SINCE I TALKED TO YOU LAST TIME, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING TWO MORE DAM UH, DAMS TO OUR REPAIR LIST. WE'VE GOT 10 IN PROGRESS, TWO HAS JUST STARTED AND THIS FALL WE WILL BE DOING UPPER EAST FORK NINE AND LOWER EAST FORK FIVE. ADDING THOSE TO THE LIST UNDER REPAIR. UH, THESE DAMS TAKE UP QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND I MEAN, I, I WILL SPEND TIME ON THE PHONE AT LEAST EVERY SINGLE DAY OR ON THE COMPUTER WITH EITHER THE FOLKS AT 10 OR THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT TWO, UH, WORKING ON ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR COUNTY, UH, MITIGATION ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS VERY TIME CONSUMING AND FOUND OUT FRIDAY THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN ADDITIONAL THINGS TO DO BY FEMA, WHICH WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY ON THE LIST WHEN WE STARTED. UH, OUR NEED FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION IS INCREASING. WE ALSO NEED TO INCREASE THE TRAINING AND EXERCISES THAT WE DO IN THE COUNTY FOR NOT JUST COUNTY EMPLOYEES, BUT OUR PARTNERS. UM, AND THE, UH, TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT NOW WANTS US TO CHANGE OUR ANNEX MODEL OF OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN TO AN EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTION, WHICH WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT. THAT IT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL WORK FOR US, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF THAT? WELL, IT WOULD BE THE SAME FROM FEDERAL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LOCAL, BUT [00:55:01] WE DON'T DO THINGS THE WAY STATE AND FEDERAL DO. SO IT'S GONNA COMPLICATE OUR LIVES AND CAUSE US MORE WORK IF WE MAKE THAT CHANGE. NOT TO MENTION HAVING TO REWRITE THE PLAN ENTIRELY TO MEET THEIR TIME GUIDELINES. AND WE ARE ALSO BEEN DOING THE AUTOMATIC EXTERNAL DATA DEFIBRILLATORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE NOW HAVE 32 OF THOSE, ABOUT $64,000 INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH GRANTS THAT SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY. BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO INSPECT THESE AND CHECK ON 'EM REGULARLY, WHICH IS INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF TIME MY EMPLOYEES ARE HAVING TO GO OUT AND GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE REASONS THAT I AM REQUESTING, UH, AN ADDITIONAL PERSON, FULL-TIME PERSON. UM, WHAT WOULD THEY SPECIFICALLY BE DOING? STEVE? UH, DO YOU HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR IT? I, I SUBMITTED THOSE WITH OUR PACKAGE. UM, AND LIKE EVERYTHING IN MY OFFICE, THOSE ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS. AND DID YOU LOSE THE PART-TIME THAT YOU HAD? YES, SIR. UH, WE HAD NATALIE OF BONDS. OKAY. SHE HAD A BA, BACHELOR'S IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND A MINOR IN, UH, GIS. UH, ENIS SNATCHED HER UP. SHE WAS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL THROUGHOUT THE DISASTER, UH, WHEN THE WINDSTORMS HIT IN 24. YEAH. UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD FIND SOMEBODY WITH THOSE CREDENTIALS. SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING. UM, AND UH, SO THESE FULL TIME WOULD BE TAKING THAT, TAKING SOME OF THAT UP? YES. OKAY. UM, ALSO, UH, THIS IS THE THIRD, IF NOT THE FOURTH TIME. I'VE REQUESTED A FULL-TIME PERSON. UH, NOT I KNOW IT'S THE THIRD. HUH? I KNOW IT'S THE THIRD . UH, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE UP. I WILL KEEP ASKING IF I DON'T GET IT. SO. YEAH. UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION AND IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED IF YOU COULD ADD THIS PERSON TO OUR STAFF. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVE? THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YOU SO, 10 PARTY, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER BREAK UNTIL HUSBAND COME EARLIER. OKAY. WE'RE SO MUCH AHEAD. OKAY. OH, YASMA DOWN THE RODEO. MEKE RODEO. HE DOES IT FOR, THAT'S MY BRANDON, ABOUT YOU. HERE'S ANOTHER SMILING YOUNG LADY. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I'M GOOD. GOOD, GOOD. SO COMMISSIONER ALLEN AND COMMISSIONERS, UM, I'M REQUESTING TO RECLASSIFY ONE OF MY FULL-TIME POSITIONS, WHICH WILL COMPLIMENTS, WE, WE CALL 'EM COMMISSIONER. WE IS LAUGHING BECAUSE OH NO. TALKING ABOUT THE JUDGE. OH, I'M SORRY. COUNTY JUDGE . YES. THAT'S WHY WE'RE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE FOR THE RECORD. THAT'S WHY WE'RE SNICKERED UP DAY. I KNOW. I'M SORRY. YES. JUST CALL ME FOR DINNER. . SO TRUE. YEAH. BUT I'M REQUESTING NICOLE RECLASSIFY ONE OF MY FULL-TIME POSITIONS, WHICH WILL BECOME VACANT IN SEPTEMBER. UM, MELISSA DAY IS RETIRING AFTER 24 YEARS OF SERVICE OH, GREAT. WITH THE COMAN COUNTY LIBRARY. UM, SHE, UM, HER POSITION DOES ALL OF THE CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING. SO THAT IS THE STORY TIMES THE STEAM PROGRAM, UM, ALL OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMMING AND, UM, THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, THAT POSITION ALSO DOES THE INTERLIBRARY LOAN PROCESSING. SHE HELPS WITH WHERE MATERIALS ORDERING CIRCULATION AND COLLECTION MAINTENANCE. AND WE ALL TAKE SHARE IN THOSE DUTIES ON THE SERVICE DESK. SO, UM, THOSE REGULAR DUTIES, UM, WE'LL STAY THE SAME ON THIS POSITION. THIS POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN INFORMALLY LIKE THE SECOND IN COMMAND, UM, JUST SUPERVISING A LITTLE BIT OF THE LIBRARY WHEN I'M NOT THERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THOSE SUPERVISORY ROLES OFFICIALLY TO GIVE THAT POSITION THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS FOR THE LIBRARY WHEN I'M NOT THERE. SO WHEN STAFF CALLS IN AND THEY NEED TO SEE WHO'S GONNA OPEN, WHO'S GONNA CLOSE, OR IT COULD BE ON A SATURDAY OR SOMETHING WHEN I'M NOT THERE IF, OR WITH THE BUILDING FIRE ALARM GOING OFF OR ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME. SO THIS IS JUST OFFICIALLY GIVING IN THOSE SUPERVISORY ROLES TO, UM, TO BE ABLE TO GOVERN THE LIBRARY IN MY ABSENCE. UM, I THINK ON REP [01:00:01] RECOMMENDATION OF THE AUDITOR, LIKE THE KIRK THREE POSITION HAS THOSE SUPERVISORY ROLES AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT. UM, THAT POSITION, I THINK SHE SAID STARTS AT 52, 4 50 $2,442. UM, AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP THE REQUIREMENTS ON THAT POSITION TO GIVE IT A SALARY RANGE UP TO MAYBE 55,000 CURRENT TO OFFER TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SOMEONE WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE. CURRENTLY I CHECK TWO BOXES ON THE STATE REPORT. SO NOT ONLY DO WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES FOR ACCREDITATION IS A, A LIBRARY DIRECTOR THERE FOR 40 HOURS A WEEK AND ONE WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE. SO CURRENTLY I'M CHECKING TWO AS THE POPULATION ASSIGNED BY THE STATE GROWS FOR EVERY 50,000 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL LIBRARY ON DUTY. SO DOING THIS NOW WHILE THIS POSITION IS OPEN, IF WE CAN, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE US DOWN THE LINE FROM HAVING TO CREATE ANOTHER POSITION FOR LIBRARIANS. SO, AND IF WE DO THAT NOW, THEN THAT WOULD COVER US UP TO THE POPULATION OF IF WE EVER HAD TO SERVE THE WHOLE HUNDRED LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE. SO, AND THIS IS ALSO AS DIFFERENT AS THE LIBRARIES IN THE COUNTY MAKE DECISIONS OF HOW THEY, UM, HOW THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT CAN COME IN THEIR LIBRARY TO GET CARDS. THAT POPULATION HAS TO BE ABSORBED SOMEWHERE. SO WE DO THAT. WE, UH, WE WILL ABSORB THAT. SO RIGHT NOW, LIKE WITH TERRELL, THE CRANDALL COMBINE LIBRARY AND THE KAUFMAN, EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY IS REPRESENTED BY THE ACCREDITED LIBRARY. SO IF YOU THE, THE STATE WITH TERRELL AND THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO ONLY ALLOW PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THEIR CITY LIMITS TO GET A LIBRARY CARD. WELL THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS NOW COME TO THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY LIBRARY. LIKE SO THAT'S 50,000 POPULATION THAT YOU SERVE IN THAT LIBRARY. MM-HMM . NOT POPULATION COUNTYWIDE. SO THEY ASSIGNED THE POPULATION, THE STATE FOR LIBRARY DIV DIV THESE UP. SO OURS LIKE, UM, LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO WAS LIKE 20,000. SO NOW WE'RE WAY OVER 30,000. OKAY. SO WE'RE APPROACHING ANOTHER 50. UM, AND IT'S THE SAME KIND OF LIKE WITH, UM, FORNEY, THEY HAVE LIKE A, A E-LIBRARY THAT THEY ALLOW THE CITY OF FORNEY RESIDENTS TO ACCESS, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE OUTSIDE CAN COME TO US AND DO THAT AS WELL TOO. OKAY. SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING AND IT'S WHATEVER THE WILL OF THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO DO. YEAH. SO, UM, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CLERK THREE FROM WHAT THE CURRENT RATE IS AT THAT POSITION IS LIKE 2,497 IF WE GO WITH THE CLERK THREE. BUT IF WE EXPAND IT AND OPEN UP THAT HIRING RANGE TO LIKE 55,000, THAT'S LIKE 5,500 DIFFERENCE IN THAT POSITION. I DIDN'T HAVE IT ON MY SHEET. DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE VERY LAST PAGE? HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S A SUPERVISOR? ONE MINUTE. WELL, IT'S NO BESIDE YOU, JUST ME. SO, UM, JUST IN WELL WHY WOULD THEY BE TITLED CLERK? WELL THAT WAS JUST, IT'S ON THERE WITH THE JUVENILE SHEET JUDGE. YEAH. SO THAT WAS THE POSITION THAT WOULD BE, THAT HAD THE SUPERVISORY ROLES. BUT FROM HR HE GAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AS LIKE, UM, LEAD SUPERVISING. OKAY. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GONNA, YEAH. IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, SHE'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BE IN CHARGE. NOT SURE WHY IT WOULD BE CLERK. YEAH. BUT THAT WAS JUST, I THINK IT OUGHT BE SUPERVISED. I THINK THE TITLE OUGHT CLERK BE SUPERVISOR. UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE NAMING CONVENTION, WE KINDA RESEARCHED THE TYPICAL NAMES THAT FOLLOW WITHIN THE LIBRARY. UM, AND SUPERVISOR, I DON'T BELIEVE WAS ONE OF THEM. IT, IT SUGGESTED THAT THE DEPUTY, UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DEPUTY DIRECTOR WAS RIGHT UNDER, AND IT SHOULD BE A, NOT A CLERK. THREE EVIDENCE. YEAH. DEPUTY DIRECTOR WAS THE SUGGESTED NAME. WELL, ON THE SHEET HERE, THIS GOT LIBRARY TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR, SO, OKAY. MM-HMM . WELL I JUST HEARD HER SAYING, YEAH, WE WERE KIND OF COMPARING THE SALARY RANGE TO A CLERK THREE. 'CAUSE A CLERK THREE IN A TYPICAL OFFICE DOES HAVE SOME SUPERVISORY ROLES, SO MM-HMM . SALARY RANGE CLERKS IN THERE, IN THE TAX OFFICE. THEY USE SUPERVISOR. MM-HMM. THE CLERK THREES DO. YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH. ALRIGHT. I WAS SAYING IN THE LIBRARY OUGHT BE SOMETHING. YEAH. [01:05:01] SO THE, THE CLERK THREES IN THE TAX OFFICE, FOR INSTANCE, THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, MASTER'S DEGREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT MM-HMM . AND SO ABOVE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IS APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE MM-HMM . IN LINE. MM-HMM . OKAY. AND, AND, AND IF WE CAN OPEN IT UP LIKE THAT AND IF WE DON'T GET ANY, ANYBODY ONE THAT APPLIES FOR THAT POSITION WITH THOSE CREDENTIALS, THEN THE CLERK THREE, WE WOULD HAVE THAT LEEWAY TO KEEP IT AT THAT. YES. CLERK THREE. OKAY. MM-HMM . SO SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. TURN THE MICROPHONE. ALRIGHT. CHECK HER OFF. WE HAVE TANDY NEXT. WHO? YES SIR. I JUST MESSAGED HER. SHE'S ON HER WAY. OH, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER BREAK. LET ME FIND, WHAT TAB IS SHE? I DON'T KNOW. SHE GOT A BIG BOOK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY OR NOT. I, I, I GOT IT HERE SAYING THE SAME STUFF. I GOT IT. OKAY. I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. GOOD MORNING, MS. CANDY FROM ELECTIONS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE SAY NO, GO AHEAD AND, WELL, IT'S NO MORE DIFFERENT THAN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST TIME I WAS UP HERE. SO I'M HERE I GUESS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. AGAIN, AS FAR AS PERSONNEL, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEKING THAT INCREASE FOR OUR BALLOT BOARD JUDGES AND CLERKS TO 20 AND 18. IS THE STATE NOT GONNA PICK UP ANY OF MORE MONEY? JUST WHAT THEY HERE STATE DOES NOT STATE, STATE DOES NOT FUND THESE, THESE ELECTIONS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC WOMEN'S MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT ABOUT YEAH. FIND PEOPLE THAT WOULD PAY. WE'RE, WE'RE SEEKING SOME LEGISLATION THAT MIGHT RAISE THE STATE RATES FOR A PRIMARY. UM, BUT THEY STILL DON'T PICK UP THE BULK OF OUR BALLOT BOARD. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THAT BECAUSE THEIR DUTIES HAVE BEEN EXPANDED. UM, AND IT DOES TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME. WELL, LET'S, LET ME START HERE AT THE TOP OF ABOUT MY PAGE. THAT WAY I CAN FOLLOW. LET'S GO FOR IT. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE HERE ASSISTANT CHIEF, YOU HAVE . OKAY, SO YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CAREER SERIES, WHATEVER MY FRONT PAGE IS HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT FRONT PAGE. YES. THEY HAVE THE CAREER SERIES. OKAY. SO IS THAT WHAT WE'RE STARTING WITH AND NOT THE OTHER TWO MM-HMM . OR DO WE WANNA KNOCK THE OTHER TWO OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN GO INTO THE CAREER SERIES? NOW? LET'S START HERE. SO I HAD SENT YOU GENTLEMEN SOME INFORMATION ON A CAREER SERIES, AND THIS IS TO CREATE CONTINUITY IN OUR DEPARTMENT. THESE LADIES DO NOT FUNCTION IN A CLERK. CAPACITY CLERKS ARE DATA ENTRY AND THAT'S ALL THEY DO. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. WHAT I WANNA DO IS CREATE A FORMAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING PROGRAM THAT STRENGTHENS THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AND WHAT IT IS, IS YOU COME AS A CLERK, YOU COMPLETE THIS FIRST SECTION IN YOUR CAREER SERIES, WHICH IS THE RIO CERTIFICATION MAKES YOU A REGISTERED ELECTION OFFICIAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THAT WOULD MOVE THEM FROM A CLERK TO AN ELECTION SPECIALIST ONE. FROM THERE THEY CAN CONTINUE ON IN THEIR CERTIFICATION WITH THE SIERRA CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS CERTIFIED ELECTIONS AND REGISTRATION ADMINISTRATOR. AND THAT'S A NATIONAL REGISTRATION PURPOSE. UM, IT FOCUSES ON LEADERSHIP ETHICS, PUBLIC TRUST, CYBERSECURITY, CRISIS MANAGEMENT, CONTINUITY AND THINGS OF THOSE THINGS. SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SPECIALIST ONES AND COMPLETE THAT PHASE TWO WILL THEN BECOME A SPECIALIST. TWO, IT ALLOWS OUR COORDINATOR TO STEP UP FROM A ELECTION COORDINATOR ONE TO AN ELECTION COORDINATOR TWO. SO IT GIVES THEM GROWTH AND CONTINUITY THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT WHILE FURTHERING THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND GIVING US THE ABILITY TO RETAIN INDIVIDUALS WHO, A, ARE CERTIFIED, AND B, CREATE THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE. SO AS PEOPLE MOVE UP, MOVE ON IN THEIR CAREERS INTO OTHER AREAS, OUR DEPARTMENT'S NOT IMPACTED. WE STILL KEEP THAT BASE KNOWLEDGE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. FISCAL IMPACT THIS YEAR WILL PROBABLY BE THE LARGEST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE CHIEF DEPUTY WHO HAS COMPLETED TWO CERTIFICATIONS THIS YEAR, AND OUR ELECTION COORDINATOR WHO COMPLETED HER PHASE ONE NEXT YEAR'S IMPACT WOULD AGAIN BE MINIMAL BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, THE ONLY PERSON WHO WOULD ADVANCE WOULD BE OUR CHIEF ASSISTANT AND OUR COORDINATOR WHO WOULD COMPLETE THEIR PHASE TWO AND THEIR PHASE THREE. AND THEN IN THE THIRD YEAR YOU WOULD SEE THE MINI MOST MINIMAL IMPACT. AND THAT WOULD BE WHERE OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE ACHIEVES HER FIRST COMPLETED PHASE ONE. IT TAKES TWO YEARS FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THAT PHASE ONE FROM A CLERK TO AN ELECTION SPECIALIST ONE. SO THIS ISN'T A, WE COME IN AND WE AUTOMATICALLY JUST GET AN ADVANCE. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. IT'S A PROCESS TO THESE CERTIFICATIONS AND IT'S A PROCESS TO KEEP THESE CERTIFICATIONS ONCE THEY'RE CHEAP. [01:10:02] SO YOU'RE REQUESTING EVERY TIME I GET A CERTIFICATION TO GET A BUMP IN PAY, THE IMPACT WE'RE THIS, THIS IS REALLY TRUTHFULLY A MINIMAL IMPACT. WE'RE ASKING FOR STEP ONE IN THE CAREER SERIES IS A 1% PAY INCREASE, 1% C CERTIFICATION RESULTS IN A 3%. AND THEN WHEN THEY DO THAT CPL CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS THE THIRD STEP, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 1%. SO AGAIN, IT'S A VERY MINIMAL IMPACT TO THIS BUDGET. YOU'RE SAYING ON RE RE-CERTIFICATION EVERY TIME THEY RECERTIFICATION, THEY DON'T RE-CERTIFY EVERY YEAR. SAYS IT RIGHT THERE. WE DON'T, CERTIFICATION RECERTIFICATION IS 1%. THAT'S EVERY THREE YEARS THAT THEY RECERTIFY ONE OF THESE THINGS. EACH CERTIFICATE IS A THREE YEAR RECERTIFICATION. ONCE THEY GET IT AND RECERTIFY, THEY'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER 1% ON TOP OF THAT. IT GO WITH WITH WHATEVER THE YEAH, WHAT WE DO ONCE WE GET ALL THREE, THEN IF WE WANNA STOP IT AT THAT, THAT'S FINE. YEAH. BUT OKAY. I, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO AT LEAST INSTITUTE THE CAREER SERIES TO GET THE CERTIFICATIONS. IF WE GET CERTIFICATE PAY, YOU JUST GET IT ONE TIME THAT I'M GOOD WITH THAT TOO. AND THAT, THAT SHEET THAT WE GAVE YOU WITH THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED AND THE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS, SO THAT'S FY 27, FY 28, AND FY 29. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TOTALS AT THE BOTTOM AND HOW THAT IMPACT WILL BE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THAT'S WITH THE DOCUMENTATION. YEAH. SO IT'S ABOUT IS 6,800, UM, IN FFY 27 2,528 MANY HOURS. HOW MANY HOURS OF EDUCATION IS EACH ONE OF THESE? SO THE RIO CERTIFICATION REQUIRES THE COMPLETION OF 10 COURSES. THOSE COURSES ARE FOUR TO FIVE HOURS A PIECE. SO THAT'S 50 HOURS OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS. IN INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, CS CERTIFICATION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT'S 12 COURSES OVER THE PERIOD OF TWO YEARS. THOSE COURSES ARE EIGHT HOUR COURSES. THOSE ARE DONE OVER THE SPAN OF TWO WEEKS AS WELL AS THE OFFLINE OF SIDE OF IT WHERE THEY ARE DOING THEIR PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN INTO ACTUAL PROFESSORS. THAT CERTIFICATION COMES THROUGH AUBURN UNIVERSITY AND WE'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO ATTEMPT THESE COURSES WITHOUT A COST TO THE COUNTY BASED ON A GRANT THAT WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING. UM, CPL CERTIFICATION, THAT'S GONNA BE 10 COURSES AS WELL. THOSE ARE 12 HOUR COURSES AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST GO DO IN A DAY. THIS IS WEEKS, YEARS, MONTHS OF LEARNING SPANNED OUT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TRAINING? RANDY? YOU GOT A QUESTION MARK IN YOUR FACE? UM, I THINK WE ACCIDENTALLY MISSED, UM, ONE OTHER THING, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT THE TRAINING. THE CAREER SERIES. YOU WERE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE NOT ON THERE. WE DID. THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THERE REQUEST I MADE WAS A FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER. THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE'LL NEED TO ADD THAT TO HER. ASK. AND WHAT WOULD THAT POSITION BE? IT'S AN ELECTION CLERK IS WHERE THEY START OUT. SNAP FACE PAY 40, I THINK IT'S 40,000. I CAN PULL THAT UP. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU WANNA COVER NEXT? THEN YOU TELL ME WHAT, WHAT YOU GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT. SO THE BASE PAY FOR ELECTION CLERK IS 45,806 AND THE BENEFITS WOULD BRING IT TO AROUND 60 62. 66. 66? MM-HMM . 66. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON TRAINING FOR TANDY? AND THEN, UH, RECLASSIFY THAT ONE. RECLASSIFY THIS ONE. SALARY ADJUSTMENT ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, 3% TIER INCREASE. IT WOULD BE A TWO WITHOUT THE RENEWAL. AND THEN CHIEF ASSISTANT 4% TIER INCREASE. SHE COMPLETES TWO PHASES THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD NOT BE OKAY. ANY THOUGHTS? I THINK SO. IT'S A CHANGE IN WORLD AND I KNOW YOU'RE BIG INTO TRAINING. I RESPECT THAT. SO, LIKE I SAID, MOST [01:15:01] OF YOUR STUFF'S FIGURED IN, LIKE THESE INCREASES ARE FIGURED IN ON THE CERTIFICATE PROGRAM. SO YOU DO HAVE A STRUCTURED WAY OF DOING THAT. SO I RESPECT THAT. WHAT ELSE? MS. TANDY? I, LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HOPE YOU APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT AND PROCESS THAT GOES INTO THIS FRAMEWORK BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE IN OUR DEPARTMENT IS, UH, CONSISTENT OVERTURN BECAUSE PEOPLE FIND A BETTER SALARY AND CAN'T STAY WITH US. OH, THAT'S COUNTYWIDE. I GET THAT. I I GET THAT. WHAT DO WE HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE ON JUDGES GOING FROM THIS ISN'T IT IS JUST STRICTLY THE BALLOT BOARD JUDGES. OKAY. BALLOT BOARD JUDGE. BALLOT BOARD ALTERNATING CLERKS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX PEOPLE. HOW MANY DOLLARS? IT WOULD BE MINIMAL. UM, OKAY. YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT FIVE GRAND FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. OKAY. IF THAT, AND THAT'S IF WE HAVE TO USE A FULL BOARD BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE DON'T WORK WEEKS AT A TIME, EIGHT HOURS A DAY. RIGHT. UM, AND THAT COST IS RECOUPED. I WAS GONNA SAY SOME OF THAT COMES BACK. WE RECOUP THAT COST. UM, SO WE, WE, WE RECOUP SIGNIFICANT COSTS WHEN WE HAVE CONTRACTED ELECTIONS FOR ANY PERSONNEL THAT'S EXPENDED. STILL NEED TO BUDGET FOR IT UNTIL WE GET THE MONEY BACK. OH NO. YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT I WANNA MAKE THAT KNOWN THAT WHEN WE GIVE Y'ALL A FIGURE FOR PERSONNEL, WE'RE RECOUPING THE BULK OF THAT WITH THESE CONTRACTS. THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S MINIMAL. UM, BECAUSE WE DO GET MOST OF IT BACK WHEN WE, WE DO OUR BILLING FROM THE OTHER END ENTITIES THAT'S HAVING ELECTED. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, MS. TENDY SPEAK NOW, IF EVER HOLD YOU PEACE. I I'M HERE TO ANSWER Y'ALL'S QUESTIONS, SO PLEASE ASK 'EM, BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE WATCHES US, PEOPLE WATCH AND THE WAY ELECTIONS ARE GOING NOWADAYS, PEOPLE ALWAYS, I THE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS THAT CONTINUE TO BE APPLIED BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SEEN LAST WEEK THAT I EMAILED YOU AND BRANDY, IT GETS REAL INTERESTING. SURE. OKAY. BUT YOU PUT IN A LOT OF EXTRA WORK ON OPG. WE DO. WE CALL ME ALL TIME. WE WERE IN COMMISSIONER DISTRICT THREE'S AREA THIS WEEKEND AT A BACK TO SCHOOL FAIR OVER IN TARRELL. WE SERVED ABOUT 120 SNOW CONES THIS SATURDAY. MET WITH A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE, GOT SOME, SOME POTENTIAL WORKERS AND SOME NEW FOLKS REGISTERED. SO IT WAS EXCITING. THAT'S GOOD. WE NEED WORKERS. ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT. NOTHING ELSE? NO, THANK YOU TANDY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YOU'VE PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK A LOT OF HOURS. THAT IS FOR SURE. YOU GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU BET. ALRIGHT, MR. TOMMY, YOU'RE NEXT. AND WHAT COLOR TAB IS MR. TOMMY? I'M SORRY. . TURN THE TAB. LADY . OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE 1 68. WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. JUDGE ALLEN. COMMISSIONER, UH, GOOD MORNING. A DARK BLUE TAB. YEAH. THE NEXT, THE START THE BLUE TAB AFTER THE ONE WE'RE AT WHERE WE'RE JUST AT THIS BLUE? NO, THIS BLUE. THIS BLUE. THIS BLUE. THIS BLUE. THE OTHER BLUE. IT'S THE OTHER BLUE. GO AHEAD. THOUGHT OTHER. SO YOU HAD TO PUT LIKE BLUE ONE, BLUE TWO, RIGHT? RIGHT AT TWO ON THREE. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE GAME. SOMEBODY'S IN THE ROOM. I JUST HAVE ONE, UH, PERSONNEL RELATED BUDGET REQUEST. UH, I THINK YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THERE WITH THE BLUE TAB. UH, THE UH, AND FIRST THING I'D EMPHASIZE IS THIS IS JUST BUDGET NEUTRAL. I MEAN, IN TERMS OF THE, THE SMALL AMOUNT THAT I'M REQUESTING FOR THE INCREASE, I CAN ALSO GIVE UP ON OUR EXTRA HELP, UH, THAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR ALLOCATION. SO THIS DOES NOT COST FOR A ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM WHAT'S BEEN BUDGETED TO HR DEPARTMENT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GENERALISTS IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND JUST WITH THE CURRENT CONDITION, UH, THERE'S A WIDER GAP THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN THE SAME PAY TITLES. AND WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION IS BY BUMPING THE ONE, IF THAT'S THE LOWEST, IS WE, WE NARROW THAT GAP AND MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITHIN THAT JOB TITLE OR THAT JOB RANGE. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE RATIONALE OR THE REQUEST. OBVIOUSLY I THINK THAT PERSON IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. UH, WE WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT THIS IF THE, THE PERFORMANCE WASN'T AT A, UH, A GOOD LEVEL. RIGHT. UM, THERE, BUT THAT, THAT IS THE REQUEST THAT WE'RE DOING. UH, SO WE'RE JUST TAKING OUT THE EXTRA HELP AND PUTTING SOME OF THAT BACK UP. A PORTION OF THAT EXTRA HELP'S BEING TAKEN OUT. UH, AGAIN, UM, WE HAVE NOT USED ANY OF THE EXTRA HELP SO FAR THIS YEAR. UH, AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO DO WITHOUT THAT. AND THAT DOESN'T CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THE, UM, OPERATION [01:20:01] OF THE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. GOOD. SOUNDS, IT SEEMS TO BE RUNNING SMOOTH. YEP. I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING OUT OF IT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT NO, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE, WE, WE, WE HOPE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE VALUABLE SERVICE FOR YOU IN THE COUNTY. YOU'RE VERY THOROUGH IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH QUADRA IT'S BEEN THIS YEAR THAN IT WAS. YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE A VERY GOOD TEAM. I'M TELLING YOU THAT, THAT THE TEAM HAS WORKED WELL TOGETHER AND, UM, UH, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE TEAM'S PERFORMANCE AND SO, UM, I'M, I'M FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE ALL ARE ANY ANYTHING ELSE FOR TOMMY? NO, I THINK THANK YOU THOMAS. GOOD JOB. YOU BET. DEPARTMENT'S DOING APPRECIATE. GREAT JOB, UHHUH. THANK YOU. ARE YOU MARY? BARDEN? ? DO I ? IS SHE COMING? SHE'S COMING. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A BREAK UNTIL MARY GETS HERE. YES. ALRIGHT. Y'ALL, COME ON. I MEAN, IS IT, WE'RE COMING. COME ON. IS SOMETHING, WHERE'S NUMBER FOUR? SHE'S NOT I DON'T HERE TODAY. SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA CALL YOU AND TELL ME THAT. OH, I HADN'T TALK TO HER. I'M ARE ONE AND TWO. YOU'RE ONE AND TWO. I'M ONE AND TWO. AND YOU'RE THREE AND FOUR. THAT MAKES YOU 12. THAT DOES MAKE ME 12. DONNA PUT 12. THIS JUST CALL YOU 12 AND OKAY. I LOOK 12. AND YOU GOT THREE AND FOUR. OKAY. DON'T I FEEL A HUNDRED AND TWELVE NINETY FIVE. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. LET US COME AND SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. YES. AND HOPEFULLY WHAT WE SAY TODAY WILL MAKE SENSE TO YOU. UH, I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS A DONE DEAL AND NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT BEHIND OUR BACKS AND WE WANT TO GET THAT CLARIFIED. OKAY. GO AHEAD MS. MARTIN. SHE'S GOT SOME NOTES HERE. . . I'VE GOT NOTES TOO. OKAY. GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN. GOOD MORNING. OKAY, SO THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING IS A SUBJECT THAT NO ONE LIKES TO TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS JAIL MAGISTRATION. SO I WANNA EXPLAIN JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES THERE IS A MIS MISCONCEPTION THAT THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE IS REQUIRED TO DO JAIL. MAGISTRATION. THAT'S NOT TRUE. ALTHOUGH WE ARE MAGISTRATES UNDER, UNDER THE LAW WE ARE MAGISTRATES. BUT THERE ARE 17 MAGISTRATES IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. THERE ARE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES, FORNEY, TERRELL CRANDALL, KAUFMAN CAMP, AND MAYBANK. THREE DISTRICT JUDGES, TWO COUNTY COURT JUDGES AND A COUNTY JUDGE. GET Y'ALL. DID, DID Y'ALL REALIZE THAT YOUR COUNTY JUDGE IS A MAGISTRATE MAG? OH YEAH. I'M OUT THAT WEEK. YES. ? YES. I TELL YOU, I REMEMBER, REMEMBER BRUCE USED TO DO IT, THAT IN THE TIME THAT I HAD BEEN HERE, BRUCE, BRUCE DID IT TWICE. MM-HMM . HE WENT TO THE JAIL TWICE. I HAD TO GO BEHIND HIM AND FIX SOME THINGS , BUT NO DOUBT IN MY MIND. BUT HE DID TRY. AND HE ALSO WENT ON AN INQUEST AND HE DID TRY. AND I HAD TO GO BEHIND HIM ON THAT. BUT THERE WAS A TIME THAT PATRICIA ASHCROFT, WHEN SHE WAS JUST PEACE AND PRECINCT TWO HAD SURGERY AND WAS OUT FOR A WHILE. AND I WAS DOING ALL OF HER STUFF AND ALL OF MINE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. AND SO HE DID GO TO THE JAIL. THERE HAS ALSO BEEN, WHEN TRACY GRAY, UH, WAS A COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGE, UH, THERE WAS A TIME THAT SHE WENT TO THE JAIL WITH ME AND I SCHOOLED HER ON, ON THAT. AND SO ONE DAY SHE DID GO AND DO JAIL MAGISTRATE. BUT IN THE TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER DISTRICT OR COUNTY JUDGE THAT HAS GONE TO MAGISTRATE. I MET, UH, UH, JUDGE WOOD ONCE AT THE JAIL. AT THE JAIL? YEAH. OKAY. SO TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, ARTICLE 2.09 DOES, DOES SAY, UH, THAT A MAGISTRATE THAT WE ARE, THAT JPS ARE MAGISTRATES AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO ALL THE DUTIES THAT A MAGISTRATE CAN DO. HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT PUT ANY HIGHER DUTY THAN ANY OF THESE OTHER MAGISTRATES TO PERFORM JAIL. MAGISTRATE TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. ARTICLE 15 POINT 17 REQUIRES THAT AN ARRESTED PERSON BE TAKEN BEFORE A MAGISTRATE. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT THE MAGISTRATE BE A JUSTICE OF THE PIECE FOR THEM TO BE READ THEIR RIGHTS. AND ALSO FOR THEM, UH, WELL, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE THAT GOES TO IT NOW. BUT FOR THEM TO BE THE BOMB, BE SET FOR THEM. UM, THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S STILL ON THE COURT FROM 2017 WOULD BE MR. PHILLIPS. IN 2017, WE FINALLY CAME. AND AS FOR ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR THE INCREASE IN TIME AND ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK REQUIRED, AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT WAS SITTING AT THAT TIME [01:25:01] DECIDED TO HIRE ASSOCIATE JUDGES, UM, AND PAY THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD ASKED FOR. AND SO FOR ABOUT A YEAR, THOSE ASSOCIATE JUDGES, THERE WERE TWO OF THEM WENT TO THE, WENT TO THE JAIL. UM, JUDGE BLAIR, I BELIEVES, AND I BELIEVE ALSO THAT THE PROCEDURE THAT THEY USED BACK IN 2017 TO HIRE ASSOCIATE JUDGES WILL NO LONGER WORK FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY. UM, YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH, MAY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE TO, TO APPOINT YOU A MAGISTRATE COURT. UM, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I'M GOOD EITHER WAY. UM, I'M GOOD. IF AS A COURT Y'ALL DECIDE THAT Y'ALL WANT TO FORM A MAGISTRATES COURT AND Y'ALL WANT TO HIRE YOU SOME MAGISTRATES AND A CLERK, BECAUSE LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT MAGIS JAIL, MAGISTRATION TODAY IS NOT JAIL MAGISTRATE LIKE IT WAS WHEN I STARTED MAGISTRATE AT THE JAIL IN 2009 AS A MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE. JUDGE HAS BEEN MAGISTRATE FOR 20 YEARS. WHEN THEY USED JAIL MAGISTRATES BEFORE, THERE WERE OFTENTIMES THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO BEHIND THEM AND FIX SOME STUFF. UM, JUDGE BLAIR DOESN'T WANNA GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. HOWEVER, IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT, HE'LL HAVE TO DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO. UM, JAIL MAGISTRATION TOOK A REAL TURN FOUR YEARS AGO WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF SENATE BILL SIX THAT REQUIRED WHAT WE ENDEARINGLY CALL THE P****R REPORT. IT'S THE PSRS REPORT. UM, THOSE WE HAVE TO NOW REPORT WITHIN 48 HOURS. EVERY JAIL MAGISTRATE THAT WE DO, WE HAVE TO REPORT WHAT THE, WHAT THE CHARGE WAS, WHAT THE BOND WAS. IF THERE WERE BOND CONDITIONS, WE HAVE TO ALSO TELL THEM WHAT BOND CONDITIONS WE PUT ON THOSE, THOSE PERSONS. AND THOSE HAVE TO BE ELECTRONICALLY SUBMITTED TO OCA. AND WHEN THAT WENT INTO EFFECT, TAR MUNICIPAL JUDGE SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT, AND I'M NOT GONNA MAGISTRATE AT THE TARRELL JAIL CLASS B AND ABOVE ANYMORE. THAT PUT AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN BECAUSE BEFORE HE WAS AT LEAST DOING THE, THE CLASS BEING ABOVE THAT WERE COMING, UH, FROM TERRELL THORNEY HAS CONTINUED TO MAGISTRATE THEIR CLASS BEING ABOVE AT THE JAIL. THEY HAVE THREE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES NOW, AND THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO MAGISTRATE AT THEIR JAIL, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FOUR. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT WE HAVE. THIS MORNING, I WAS LUCKY. I HAD 10 MY LAST ROTATION. MONDAY I HAD 20. ON MY MONDAY I HAD 28. I NEVER HAD LESS THAN 20 ALL WEEK TODAY. WELL, I'M NOT COUNTING TODAY. I HAVE DONE ABOUT 838 MAGISTRATES SINCE JANUARY ONE. UM, JUDGE CARNO IS JUST BELOW ME. THEN THESE TWO GUYS ARE SOMEWHERE BELOW THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THEIR, THEIR FIGURES READILY AVAILABLE. YOU DIDN'T BRING UP YEAH, THEIR FIGURES READILY AVAILABLE. WHEN I STARTED HERE IN 2013, I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE 700 THE WHOLE YEAR. IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND TWO OR 300. AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME UP HERE AND TOLD YOU, WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS, WE NEED MORE STAFF AT THE DA'S OFFICE. WE NEED THIS, WE NEED THAT. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT COFFIN COUNTY HAS GONE IN THE DIRECTION THAT IT HAS. AND THAT, UM, TODAY ALONE, I HAD THREE DWIS AND FOUR ASSAULT FAMILY VIOLENCES. I HAD FIVE YESTERDAY. YEAH. THAT ALL REQUIRE EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDERS. THAT'S WHAT SENATE BILL SIX ALSO REQUIRE US TO DO WAS MORE EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDERS AND BOND CONDITIONS. AND THOSE WE HAVE TO DO OURSELVES. NOBODY DOES THOSE FOR US. WE DO 'EM AT THE TIME OF MAGISTRATION FOR THE MOST PART. THERE MAY BE ONE THAT SLIPS, THAT SLIPS AWAY AND WE HAVE TO GO BACK LATER AND DO IT. OR SOMETIMES JUDGE BLAIR MAY DO IT THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY BEGIN WITH US. UM, SENATE BILL NINE WENT INTO EFFECT LAST YEAR. UH, I'M SCARED OF WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO US THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT ALSO MADE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN SENATE BILL NINE. THERE IS A PORTION OF IT THAT SAYS THERE ARE CERTAIN BONDS THAT ONLY [01:30:01] AN ELECTED JUDGE, NOT AN APPOINTED JUDGE, ONLY AN ELECTED JUDGE CAN SET. UH, IT ALSO, UM, INCLUDED JUDGE BLAIR A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE, THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE BOND THAT WE SET, THEY CAN APPEAL THAT TO A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S JUDGE BLAIR BECAUSE HE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE AND HE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEIR BOND NEEDS TO BE RAISED OR LOWERED. UM, I DON'T THINK TODAY HE'S, UH, I ASKED HIM IF HE'S HAD VERY MANY OF THEM. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF ATTORNEYS REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS YET TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S COMING FOR ONCE IT, IT REALLY GETS GOING, IT'LL COME BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T LIKE HER MOM. UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO, TO SAY THAT THE AMOUNT OF PAPERWORK AND THE TIME JUDGE TARNO SPENT FIVE HOURS AT THE JAIL ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO ON ONE OF HER DAYS. JUST ONE OF HER DAYS. SHE WAS THERE FIVE HOURS. WE MAY GET THERE AND THE PAPERWORK MAY ALL BE IN ORDER AND WE CAN JUST BREEZE THROUGH IT. OR WE MAY GET THERE AND WE MAY HAVE A-T-C-I-C FORM THAT TELLS US WHO THE VICTIM WAS AND GIVES US THE ADDRESSES AND THE BIRTH DATES THAT WE NEED FOR BOND CONDITIONS. AND EPOS MAY BE MISSING. THAT OFFICER MAY HAVE WORKED THE NIGHT SHIFT, WE'RE THERE DURING THE DAY. UM, MR. MORRELL UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PROBABLE CAUSE AFFIDAVIT THAT WAS WRITTEN AT NIGHT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO TRY TO GET WITH THAT OFFICER BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO CHOICES. EITHER THAT OFFICER FIXES WHATEVER IS WRONG WITH IT, AND WE GO FORTH WITH THE MAGISTRATION OR WE RELEASE 'EM AND FIND NO PROBABLE CAUSE, WHICH MEANS THAT PERSON IS GONNA BE ARRESTED AGAIN IF THEY HAVE TO GET A, AN ARREST WARRANT FOR THEM. SO WE TRY TO WAIT AND SEE IF WE CAN PULL ALL THE PAPERWORK TOGETHER AND MAKE IT ALL CORRECT. WELL, MARY, I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WRITING WE HAVE TO DO. WHEN YOU DO AN EPO AND CONDITION UPON A RELEASE AND THEN PUT IT INTO THE PSSR, YOU GOT THE MAGISTRATION SHEET, YOU PUT THAT INTO THE PSRS, THEN YOU HAVE TO WRITE THE CONDITION AMOUNT RELEASE, THEN YOU HAVE TO WRITE THE EPO. SO YEAH, YOU COULD SPEND AN HOUR ON ONE PERSON BECAUSE IT'S SO, LIKE SHE SAID, THE PC MIGHT BE WRONG. AND THEN WE'RE WAITING ON, UH, CONFIRMATION FROM THE OFFICER WAITING ON THEM TO FIX IT. SO THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO MAGISTRATION THAN WALKING IN THE DOOR TELLING SOMEBODY THEIR RIGHTS AND WALKING OUT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. BUT IT DOES NOT STOP AT, AND WE HAVE TO PUT ALL THAT STUFF IN PSRS. WE DO NOT HAVE OUR CLERKS PUT OUR STUFF IN PSRS. WE PUT IT IN THERE. WE HAVE TO REVIEW ALL OF THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY WHILE WE'RE AT THE JAIL. AND THAT'S THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE'RE SENDING THE OCA IS THAT WE DID DO THAT. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE CHARGED WITH. THIS IS THE BOND WE SET. THIS IS THE DAY THAT WE, AND THE TIME THAT WE MAGISTRATE UP. SO IT'S, IT'S A COMPLETE DIFFERENT BALLGAME THAN WHEN I EVER STARTED MAGISTRATION. UM, THE OTHER THING IS IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. UH, I DID SEVERAL EPOS AND I BET BY TOMORROW THE VICTIMS ARE AT MY OFFICE WANTING TO MODIFY THOSE EPOS COME BACK, COME BACK. SO WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE HEARINGS, WE HAVE TO BRING 'EM IN. WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM TESTIFY, THEN WE HAVE TO, IF WE DETERMINE WE'RE GONNA AMEND IT, WE'VE GOT TO REDRAW THAT EPO OR THOSE BOND CONDITIONS. THE OTHER THING IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE TIME THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIMES FOR, FOR CASES TO GET FILED IN THE OTHER COURTS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN. 'CAUSE THESE ARE NOT JUSTICE COURT CASES. THESE ARE COUNTY COURT AND DISTRICT COURT CASES. BUT SOMETIMES THEY CANNOT GET, THEY DON'T GET FILED TILL A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS LATER. IF WE MAGISTRATED THEM. WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT CASE UNTIL IT'S FILED IN ANOTHER COURT. FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAGISTRATED SOMEBODY IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND NOW HE'S GOT THIS HAS BOND CONDITIONS. NOW HE'S GOT TO HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS PERSON TO GO CAN GO ON TO CABO FOR A VACATION ALMOST A YEAR LATER. WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THESE. SO IT'S NOT JUST WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AT THE JAIL. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND OUR STAFF, THEY HAVE TO SEND OUT NOTICES OF, OF THESE HEARINGS. WE HAVE TO SET THESE HEARINGS. UM, PRETRIAL SERVICES COMES TO THE HEARING. SOMETIMES SOMEBODY FROM THE DA'S OFFICE WILL COME TO THE HEARINGS. THEY'RE NOT OUR CASES, BUT BECAUSE WE MAGISTRATED THEM, WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR 'EM. SO WITH [01:35:01] THAT SAID, I WANNA ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT POSSIBLY HAVE AS TO WHY WE HAVE ONCE AGAIN COME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR A JOB THAT YES, WE HAVE A DUTY TO DO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DUTY ANY GREATER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS COUNTY TO DO IT. I KNOW. PLUS, PLUS MY HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS AND THESE GUYS HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS. YEAH. PLUS JUVENILE MAGISTRATES. WHEN I GET A PHONE CALL FROM THE SHERIFF THAT SAYS, I'VE GOT A JUVENILE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND IT'S TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. PLUS, UH, THE OTHER DAY I GOT A PHONE CALL THAT, AND I HAD TO DRIVE TO THE FORNEY SUBSTATION THROUGH WINDMILL FARMS, UH, WHERE A JUVENILE HAD SHOT PEOPLE TO MAGISTRATE JUVENILE AT MIDNIGHT. DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? ? OKAY. I KNEW YOU DID. I CAN'T GO THAT DIRECTION. I DON'T HAVE A PASS TO GO ACROSS 80. OH, WELL I DID TALK. WISH I COULD. I WILL TELL Y'ALL THAT. I CALLED IN AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND I SAID, I AM DRIVING THROUGH WINDMILL FARMS RIGHT NOW. SO THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE I WAS. THEN I RAN UP TO THE DOOR, PUSHED THE BUTTON AND SAID, LET ME IN QUICKLY, . BUT THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF TIMES IF THEY NEED A JUVENILE MAGISTRATE, WE HAVE TO GO WHERE THAT JUVENILE IS BECAUSE THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO RECORD. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY AT OUR OFFICES TO RECORD ANY INTERVIEW THAT THAT JUVENILE MAY GIVE 'EM. SO FOR THE MOST PART, I GO A LOT OF TIMES TO CRANDALL. UH, I GO TO KAUFMAN, I GO TO THE JAIL. THEY BRING JAIL. I GO TO THE JAIL. WE HAVE TO GO TO THE JAIL. I GO TO THE SUBSTATION OR YOU GO TO THE SUBSTATION OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT JAIL. I WANT Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST GOING THERE AND, AND, AND SPEAKING WITH CASEY. I KNOW THE, THE OTHER THING DIDN'T WORK WHERE YOU HIRED OUTSIDE MEXICO. I STILL, I WISH THE SHERIFF WAS HERE, COULD TELL YOU HOW, HOW BAD IT WAS. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY WE CAME BACK WHEN HE BEGGED US TO COME BACK. YEAH. AND WE DID THAT FOR A YEAR WITHOUT COMPENSATION. NO. WE'VE DONE IT EVER SINCE. AND NOW THEY HAVE TO BE ATTORNEYS AND THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, PRIOR JUDGES. WELL, THEY HAD TO BE ATTORNEYS BEFORE TOO. YEAH. OKAY. NOW THEY HAVE TO BE. SO ANYWAY, IT'S, THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY. IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. NO, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T NEED THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE TO DO IT. 'CAUSE THEY WELL, YOU WOULD AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CLERK BECAUSE FOR THE WEEKS THAT WE DO, IF ALL OF THOSE MAGISTRATE WARNINGS HAVE TO BE PUT INTO TYLER TECHNOLOGY INTO ODYSSEY. YEAH. NOW WE PUT OUR OWN STUFF IN PSRS. OUR CLERKS DON'T DO IT. BUT I HAVE ONE DESIGNATED CLERK THAT DOES THAT. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CLERK, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A COURTROOM TO HAVE HEARINGS FOR MODIFICATIONS AND YEAH. AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, NOW THERE ARE COUNTIES THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED A MAGISTRATES COURT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I I'VE TOLD YOU, I'VE TOLD MY COMMISSIONER, IF Y'ALL DECIDE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANNA DO, I'M ABSOLUTE, I I'M ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH THAT. BUT IT'S UP TO YOU. I DO, I DO NOT WANT US TO DO THAT. OKAY. FOR MANY REASONS, WE'RE KIND OF OUTTA CONTROL. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER EXPENSE THAT WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD. CASEY BLAIR DOES NOT WANNA DO THIS EITHER. NO, HE TOLD ME. SO, NO, THE, THE THING IS, IS THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, KAUFFMAN COUNTY IS PROBABLY GONNA GET, CUOMO COUNTY HAS ONE, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU MAY GET THERE. MM-HMM . UM, THE POPULATION, WHEN IT DOES GET THERE, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE ONE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE. YOU HAVE A CHOICE. YES, MA'AM. YOU'LL HAVE, YOU WON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TO BE AT SOME POINT LIKE DALLAS AND HARRIS COUNTY. AND UNFORTUNATELY WE MIGHT HAVE MORE PEOPLE NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WHO KNOWS, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE NOW ARE REQUIRED TO DO AT MAGISTRATION ARE BECAUSE OF DALLAS COUNTY. OH YEAH. AND BECAUSE OF HARRIS COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY, SOME OF THESE LARGER THAT HAVE JAIL MAGISTRATES THAT GO WILLY-NILLY ON THINGS. YOU HAVE FOUR JPS THAT WE ARE PRETTY UNIFORM IN THE WAY THAT WE'VE SET OUR BONDS. ALTHOUGH THERE IS, YOU CANNOT HAVE A BOND SCHEDULE. BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT LONG ENOUGH TO WHERE WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT BOND WE'RE GONNA SET FOR WHAT. AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU SO FAR, NONE OF US HAVE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE OVER ANY, WELL, I DO NOT, I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A, A SUPPLEMENT BECAUSE THE EXTRA TIME AND EFFORT YOU HAVE TO PUT INTO IT, I GET THAT. UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, AND I BELIEVE Y'ALL DO A LOT OF EXTRA DUTY. THAT'S BEYOND WHAT YOUR JP DUTY IS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING EXTRA THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND YOU DO SPEND, A LOT OF TIMES YOU DIDN'T MENTION INQUEST [01:40:01] IS YOU CALL THAT ALL TIMES THE DAY AND NIGHT FOR STUFF. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE THE INQUEST THING ON THE INQUEST THING, THAT IS THE ONLY DUTY THAT NOBODY ELSE EXCEPT JAKEY CAN DO. AND JAKEY CAN ONLY GO OUT, TAKE THE NOTES, AND THEN HE HAS TO SHIP THE NOTES TO ONE OF US BECAUSE HE CANNOT SIGN A DEATH CERTIFICATE. RIGHT. SO ONLY THE FOUR OF US CAN, CAN CERTIFY A DEATH CERTIFICATE. SO THE INQUEST IS, IS DIFFERENT. SO WHEN WE'RE ON CALL FOR INQUEST, WE'RE ONLY REALLY ON CALL FOR INQUEST. BUT WE DO GET PHONE CALLS ON THE NIGHTS THAT WE ARE ON CALL THAT SAYS, UH, DISPATCH SAID THAT YOU'RE ON CALL. DO YOU HAVE A DEATH? NO, WE NEED A WARRANT SIGNED OR WE NEED A JUVENILE MAGISTRATE, OR WE NEED A WHITE WARRANT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ON CALL FOR. BUT WE DON'T TELL THEM THAT. YEAH. WELL, I MIGHT TELL 'EM, BUT THEN I STILL DO IT . BUT MARY TELLS SOMEBODY THAT , I, YOU KNOW, I TELL THEM THAT. BUT, AND, AND THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY DO CALL ME. WE GET CALLS FROM THE JAIL AT NIGHT. WE JUST QUESTIONS. WE GET CALLS FROM THE JAIL AT NIGHT. UM, LIKE TODAY WE HAVE HAD AN 84-YEAR-OLD DEMENTIA PATIENT THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE IN THE JAIL. SO BEFORE I CAME HERE, I HAD TO DO AN ORDER TO RELEASE HIM SO THAT HE COULD GO TO A FACILITY IN LONGVIEW. UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT, THAT COME UP. SO ANYWAY, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS AT ALL. DON'T QUESTION MR. MOORE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR DO YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION? NO. HERE'S MY, HERE'S MY QUE AND I'M JUST THINKING NUMBERS HERE. OKAY. I SUPPORT Y'ALL AND, AND WHAT YOU DO. OKAY. THE QUESTION I HAD IS, IS ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, I MEAN LIKE ALL THE OTHER ELECTED, THEY'RE ALL ABOUT SET BASE PAY, LIKE 98 3 0 6. SO ARE WE DOING A RAISE OR ARE WE DOING A SUPPLICATION FOR THEIR EXTRA DUTY? SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY EVER SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO DO MAGISTRATE NO MORE THAN THAT, SU LOSE COULD, COULD BE GIVEN TO ANOTHER JUDGE TO ALSO DO WE WANT TO DO THAT AS A PAY SCALE CHANGE AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE HERE NEXT, NEXT YEAR WANTING TO CHANGE IT. NOW, HEY, WE WANT OURS TO MATCH THEIRS OR DO WE WANNA DO THAT AS A SUPPLEMENT INSTEAD? SUPPLEMENT SUPPLEMENT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. SO ANYWAY, IF ANYWAY, IF YOU QUIT MAGISTRATE, YOU'D LOSE THAT SUPPLEMENT AND WHOEVER WOULD BE MAGISTRATE WOULD, WOULD DO THAT. SO, OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M ALL FOR IT. YOU KNOW WHERE I AM. I'M ALL FOR IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. OKAY. NO, I'M ALL FOR IT. WELL, MY COMMISSIONER KNOWS HE'LL HEAR FROM ME. DON SPEAK. THANK HEART. HE'S ON SPEED DIAL BECAUSE I CAN'T WALK ACROSS THE HALLWAY TO MY COMMISSIONER ANYMORE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF US AT THIS TIME? NO, I DO NOT. I THINK MARY AND HAS EXPLAINED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING WE DO, UH, WITH THE JAIL, MAGISTRATION DEATHS, UH, JUVENILES. IT'S, IT'S JUST GOT TO BE, UH, MAXED OUT. SURE. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, I THINK, UH, I'M HAVING TO SET MY COURT IN THE AFTERNOONS NOW BECAUSE I MIGHT BE AT THE JAIL THREE TO FOUR HOURS EVERY MORNING. YEAH. UH, AND THAT'S, MY COURT DOESN'T LIKE THAT. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME IN THE MORNING, BUT THE WEEK I WORK THE JAIL, YEAH. UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ON CALL, WE'RE ON CALL FOR HOLIDAYS, UM, NIGHTS, EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, WE'RE THE ONLY ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WORK HOLIDAYS AND NIGHTS. UNLESS IT'S NO, I I'VE WORKED OUT A LICENSE BEFORE. BOX FIXING SILENT THEN, WAIT A MINUTE. YEAH. I HAVE HISTORICALLY. YEAH. WELL, I KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING WAIT A MINUTE. NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS. NO, NO. NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND REALLY JAIL FROM, ESPECIALLY FOR JUDGE JACKSON. NOT AS MUCH BECAUSE JUDGE JACKSON DOES THE PROBABLE CAUSE HEARINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE FOR TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL. AND HE DOES THOSE THREE DAYS A WEEK, WEEK FOUR WEEKS. A MONTH. AND SO THAT TAKES UP THREE AFTERNOONS. SO IF HE'S AT THE JAIL ALL MORNING AND HE'S OUT ALL AFTERNOON, HE'S GOT TWO DAYS A WEEK BECAUSE HE DOES A MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY. AND SO HE IS GOT TWO DAYS, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY THAT HE COULD DO ANY AFTERNOON COURT ON THAT, ON THAT WEEK. I ONLY HAVE FRIDAY BECAUSE EVICTIONS COME AROUND EVERY WEEK. YEAH. AND SO WEDNESDAY OR WEDNESDAY AFTERNOONS ARE MY EVICTION COURT ON THE, ON THE WEEKS THAT I HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. AND EVERYTHING'S UP IN JUSTICE COURT SINCE THEY RAISED OUR LIMIT TO $20,000. DEBT CLAIMS HAS SKYROCKETED THROUGH, THROUGH OUR COURTS, UM, EVICTIONS, UM, THEY JUST KIND OF FLUCTUATE. NOT [01:45:01] FOR ME. YOU, YOU HAVE MORE. I MEAN, I'VE HAD, HOW MANY DID I TELL YOU THE OTHER DAY? I'VE HAD, I DON'T, 177. YEAH. I GOT SINCE THE FIRST OF THE, I GOT. NO, YOU DON'T. YES, I DO TOO. NO, I NEED YOUR NUMBERS. THAT CLAIMS AND EVICTIONS ARE KILLING US. WELL THAT, AND THEY DO BECAUSE BORN PERIOD HAS YES. A LOT. AND OF COURSE, YEAH. NOW WE SHARED IT WITH TERRELL. YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE CUT PART WIRES OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT 10,000 APARTMENTS AND NOW TERRELL'S GOING HAVE 10,000 APARTMENTS. I MEAN, BUT I HAVE HEARTLAND AND I HAVE A HEART AND MOST OF THOSE ARE COMING FROM HEARTLAND. MOST MINE COME FROM THE FORNEY APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WE THAT WE TOOK IN. TOOK IN. YEAH. BY MOST OF MY EVICTIONS WE HAVE FROM ONE. YEAH. I GAVE HIM THOSE LITTLE, THAT ONE LITTLE SECTION OF APARTMENTS AND EVERYBODY'S GETTING A TASTE OF IT. . YES. BUT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING CURRENTLY BEING BUILT AND I'M TOLD BY MY CONSTABLE OR PRECINCT ONE. YEAH. YEP. THEY ARE. THEY ARE. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, I USED TO BRAG AND SAY PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE IN PRECINCT ONE, I COULDN'T MAKE THEM NOT PAY THEIR RENT. 'CAUSE I HAD LESS EVICTIONS THAN ANYBODY ELSE, BUT NOT ANYMORE. BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY, THEY'RE NOT. I MEAN, THEY ARE IN ONE, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY MM-HMM . THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND NOW IF YOU JUST DRIVE AROUND DALLAS OR BFW ANYWHERE, WHAT DO YOU SEE? THAT'S ALL YOU SEE IS APARTMENT. JUST MILES, FOUR STORIES, FIVE STORIES. IT'S, IT'S OKAY. THANK Y'ALL. SO IT'S COMING. APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW YOU GOT IT. OKAY. HAVE A GOOD DAY GUYS. THANK YOU, SIR. I STAY IN TROUBLE. SEE YOU LATER. MIGHT BE IN, WELL I'M RIDING WITH JUDGE ADAMS. I DON'T KNOW. CAN YOU TAKE ME BACK TO MY OFFICE? THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL SEE. ALRIGHT. CARE JOHNNY. I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HEY, THE WHAT IF YOU, WHAT'S SHE SAY WRITING HIM IS RIDING WITH THE SHERIFF HIS ICY. YOU HAVE A HEAVY FOOT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN, HE HAS COME TO GET ME TO TAKE ME TO THE JAIL WHEN THERE'S ICE SNOW, . THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. APPRECIATE IT ALL. OKAY, WE'RE DONE DOWN TO ONE O'CLOCK. YES SIR. OKAY, WE'RE BACK. AND OUR BUDGET HEARING, IT'S ONE O'CLOCK AND NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR FACILITIES. SO COME ON, CASEY. GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN. PRETTY KINDA GOT THE THREE DEPARTMENTS. REALLY THE ONLY POSITIONS I'M ASKING FOR IS, UH, DEPARTMENT 1 73. UH, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF GONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE, UH, WORKSHOPS. BUT Y'ALL HAVE ALL THAT IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. OKAY. NOW, YOU WEREN'T HERE THIS MORNING, SO WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING TODAY. YES SIR. THE BUDGET IS SHORT, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA PROBABLY GET EVERYTHING YOU ASKED FOR. COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. SO YOU, YOU'D PROBABLY NEED TO, UH, 1, 2, 3 IMPORTANCE. YES, SIR. UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AFTER THIS ONCE WE GET OUR FINAL NUMBERS SO WE CAN GET DOWN TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET. SO, OKAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE OVER. SO WE'RE OVER. OKAY. WE'RE OVER. WE CAN DEFINITELY CUT. I, I, I, ME AND YOU'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON THE PHONE. I, AND I AGREE WE CAN CUT DOWN A COUPLE OF THOSE. UM, I THINK I HAD THE PHONE ALLOWANCES IN THERE. WE'RE GONNA CUT THOSE. TAKE MORE THAN THAT. SO YES. NO, NO, NO. YEAH. UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP HIM FIND SOMETHING. YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN TRY TO BRING IT DOWN. ALRIGHT. UM, UH, GO AHEAD. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE, UM, INSTEAD OF MAYBE ON THE, UH, THE SHOP MECHANIC TECHNICIAN, UHHUH , INSTEAD OF GETTING ME ANOTHER ONE, I COULD PROBABLY SQUEEZE ANOTHER YEAR WITH JUST WHAT I HAVE. JUST, I'VE ALREADY BEEN KIND OF WORKING WITH THAT. NOW MAYBE INSTEAD OF CREATING A WHOLE NOTHER POSITION, JUST CREATE THAT POSITION AND I CAN MOVE THEM OVER AND JUST NOT HAVE THE, THE BACK POSITION. THERE'LL BE NO PAY CHANGE. I THINK YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEP. YOU HAVE THE POSITION, BUT NO PAY CHANGE. OKAY. YOU GOT THAT PERSON ALREADY DOING THAT. SO HE'S ALREADY DOING IT THEN THEY JUST STAY THERE. UM, I, I REALLY DO NEED THE JANITOR. I, I DON'T THINK I CAN PASS ON THAT. I, I, THE COURTHOUSE IS GONNA NEED TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS. YEAH. SO I THINK THOSE ARE TWO BIG, WELL, THAT'S NOT ON HERE. YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOU GOT MALE VINYL TECH ONE POSITION. ALRIGHT, LEMME GET TO SHOP FOREMAN. WE'RE GONNA CUT. TAKE THE SHOP FOREMAN OUT CUTTING THE SHOP FOREMAN, SIR. SO WHY IS IT THAT WE WOULD NEED A MALE VINYL? I MEAN, HOW'S THAT WORKING NOW VERSUS, SO, SO WHAT I, I DID IS WHAT HAPPENED? I TOOK MY, UH, JANITOR, ONE OF MY JANITORIAL STAFF AND I MOVED IT OVER TO DO THE MAIL IN VINYL. YEAH. SO I'M SHORT, WHICH HAS BEEN OKAY. AND SHE, UH, LAST YEAR SHE WAS KINDA HAD A LITTLE BIT OF FREE TIME TO DO MORE JANITORIAL, [01:50:01] BUT NOW SHE'S GETTING SO BUSY. UM, I DON'T, AND THE MORE WE'VE REMODELED THE COURTHOUSE, WE WERE GONNA DO A FULL-TIME AND A HALF DAY AT THE COURTHOUSE, BUT IT'S GONNA NEED TWO FULL POSITIONS. SO, UH, SHE'S ALREADY DOING THE MAIL AND VINYL. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE HER OVER AND THEN OPEN HER SPOT BACK UP IS, I'D LIKE TO CREATE. OKAY. ONCE WE GET OVER THERE THOUGH, HOW MUCH VINYL IS GOING ON ON A WEEKLY BASIS? I, I HAVE, IT'S, IT'S CONTINU AND WHERE'S IT COMING FROM? CONTINUOUS, IT'S COMING FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WE'RE, UH, REDOING, UH, ROOMS, DOORS, THINGS ARE CON I MEAN, JUST CONSTANTLY CHANGING. IT'S SHOULD BE THAT MUCH, REALLY GETTING BUSIER AND BUSIER AS WE GO. YOU HAVE A, I THINK I ASKED YOU ALREADY AND THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WAS GOING TO GET SOMETHING ON THAT, BUT DO YOU HAVE A WORK ORDER CERTIFICATE OR HOW MANY JOBS SHE DOES ON VINYL? YES. IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR NOTEBOOK, UH, IN THE JANITORIAL, IT TELL, IT BASICALLY GIVES YOU A LIST OF WHAT SHE'S DONE THIS YEAR, UH, TO DATE. SO IT HAS THE WORK ORDERS ALL THE WAY DOWN OF WHAT EVERYTHING SHE'S DONE. AND SOME YOU'LL GET ONE FOR THE DA, BUT IT'S 20 OFFICES. I KNOW. BUT ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH ALL THOSE, YES. I MEAN, DA'S REALLY NOT MOVING THAT MUCH IN THEIR OFFICE. ONCE THIS IS DONE, THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING REALLY OVER THERE EXCEPT ONE OR TWO HERE OR THERE. YOU PEOPLE MOVE AROUND YOU, YOU WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULDN'T NEED VINYL THAT OFTEN. YEAH. BUT IT CONTINUOUSLY JUST GETS BUSIER AND BUSIER. WHY? THAT'S WHY I, I WASN'T A BIG DEAL LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE, JUST HAVING THAT JANITORIAL DOING IT. BUT THE MORE AS WE GO, THE MORE SHE JUST KEEPS DOING, THE MORE REQUESTS WE KEEP GETTING IN. I THINK WE'VE DONE A COUPLE ROAD SIGNS. WE'RE STARTING TO KIND OF FEEL THE ROAD SIGNS IN. UM, IT'S JUST ARE WE DOING ROAD SIGNS NOW AGAIN, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE TWO OR THREE. I THINK WE'VE DONE A COUPLE FOR YOU. I DO BELIEVE I DID SIGNS FOR THE BUILDING FOR, I THOUGHT WE DID A COUPLE ROAD SIGNS TOO. I DON'T THINK. YEAH, I'VE BEEN DOING MY, I'VE BEEN ORDERING MY ROAD SIGNS. HAVE YOU? THAT WE'VE DONE WHATEVER HIS NAME IS. BUT Y'ALL DONE A COUPLE SITES. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KELLY. Y'ALL REDONE THE DOOR WINDOWS AND ALL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL, WHAT ACTUALLY THE ENTRANCE, THE ONES THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO ON THE ROADSIDE DIDN'T LAST LONG ENOUGH. WE WENT BACK TO ORDER OUR WIRES 'CAUSE THEY LAST UNTIL THEY WERE STOLEN. . YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS AN OLD MACHINE AT THE FIRE MARSH. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS EQUIPMENT MEAN STOLEN THIS YEAR. I THINK WE'VE ONLY REPLACED ONE SIGN ALL YEAR. THEY STEAL MINE ALL THE TIME. OH YEAH. ALL THE TIME. YOU ALL THE TIME. YOU'RE JUST MORE POPULAR THAN WE ARE. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE HAVE BETTER NAMES. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU PUT UP A, IF YOU NAMED THE ROAD ELVIS, I PROMISE YOU IT'D BE STOLEN THERE EVERY WEEK. YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL AND YOU CAN'T, DEVELOPERS YOU CAN'T TELL 'EM, HEY, DON'T, DON'T PICK THESE NAMES. YOU KNOW? YEAH. YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF WHAT SHE'S GETTING REQUESTS FOR. AND I PUT ALL THAT PAPERWORK IN THE, IN THE NOTEBOOK. IT JUST KEEPS GROWING. I'D LIKE TO SAY ONCE WE GET DONE AND GET THE COURTHOUSE, UH, WE SHOULD BE DONE. BUT AS SOON AS I SAY THAT, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER JOB ORDER. OKAY. SO WHO'S DOING THE MAIL? 'CAUSE YOU GOT A NEW POSITION FOR MAIL THAT ONE PERSON WILL DO TWO THINGS. MAIL AND VINYL, RIGHT? YES. THAT ONE PERSON WILL DO THAT. AND WHO'S DOING THE MAIL NOW? THE, THE PERSON THAT'S DOING THE VINYL? SHE AM MY JANITORIAL. YEAH. UH, VERONICA. YEAH. UH, SHE DOES MAIL IN THE AFTERNOON. SHE STARTS AT BASICALLY 1 32 O'CLOCK AND SHE RUNS THE, THE LOCATIONS AND STARTS MAIL AND ALL THAT. SO IT'S BASICALLY A FULL AFTERNOON OF MAIL. I GET THAT. AND THEN THE VINYL IS NORMALLY SHE'S DOING THAT IN THE MORNING TIME. SO, BUT SHE IS, RIGHT NOW SHE'S LABELED AS A JANITORIAL. SO I NO LONGER HAVE HER IN THE FIELD CLEANING. OKAY. SO, UH, NEXT IS YOU I'M DIRECTOR. AGREE? YES SIR. AND THE SUPERVISOR, THEY INCREASE THEM MORE. WHY, WHY ARE THE SUPERVISORS SO HIGH? I, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A SUPERVISOR AS AN OFFICE SUPERVISOR, BUT I HAVE IT, I HAVE THEM RUNNING THE, UH, SOLID WASTE, UH, ALL THE SOLID WASTE SCREWS. AND SO THERE'S SIX PEOPLE UNDER THEM. IT'D BE THE MALE VINYL. UM, LEMME GO TO MY FLOW CHART. SORRY, Y'ALL. IT IS THE MALE VINYL. SO UNDER THEM IS THE, THE, THE CLERK THAT WE HAVE IN THE OFFICE AND THEN THE MALE VINYL AND THEN THE FOUR EMPLOYEES. WHO, WHO IS THAT PERSON WASTE THAT IS, UH, KATIE PRUITT IN YOUR FLOW CHART ON, IF YOU GO TO, I'M LOOKING 18. NO, NO, NO. I'M LOOKING AT PAYROLL HERE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I CAN'T QUITE SEE THAT. OKAY. I, THAT AMOUNT, I WAS JUST KIND OF EVENING UP ALL MY SUPERVISORS. I IT'S, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING IF YOU WANTED TO ADJUST. YEAH, DEFINITELY. UH, [01:55:01] BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT, THAT'S, YOU'RE JUST DOING A TITLE CHANGE TO MAKE IT THE SUPERVISOR. OKAY. AND THE CELL PHONES. WELL WE CAN TAKE THOSE OFF. OKAY. AND THEN I HAD THE, UM, UM, IT WAS 2000 FOR RUNNING THE SHOWGROUNDS AND I RAISED IT TO 7,000. THAT'S TOO MUCH. YES SIR. I THINK LOWER THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YOU'VE GOT KNOW IT'S GETTING BUSY. IT'S GETTING BUSY OVER THERE. AND THE THERMOSTAT ARE ON, UH, REMOTE ACCESS. YES, SIR. YES SIR. YOU PUT THE UH, UH, KEYPADS ON THE DOOR. ARE YOU GONNA PUT THE KEY CARDS ON THE DOOR OR WHAT WE'RE WE'RE WORKING, I GOT INTO BUDGET THIS YEAR TO DO THE, KEEP THE ACTUAL CARD READERS ON THE DOOR. OKAY. THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND A CAMERA SYSTEM TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT EASIER FUNCTION. 'CAUSE THE COMBINATION LOCKS, THEY'RE JUST FIGHTING US RIGHT NOW. I GET THAT. SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN, I MEAN, DO THEY GO OVER THERE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THREE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OVER THERE. I'VE NOT SEEN ANYONE THERE OTHER THAN ME. YES. SO I DON'T SCHEDULE 'EM THERE DURING THE DAY WHILE, WHILE, WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE EVENT. JUST NORMALLY IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, LIKE IF YOU CALL, YEAH, I'LL HAVE 'EM GO UP THERE. IF, IF THE PERSON THAT'S RENTING IT OUT HAS AN ISSUE, UH, WE WILL RUN UP THERE AND FIX WHATEVER PROBLEMS THEY HAVE. BUT DOES THAT PERSON GO FIX IT? OR IF SHE CALLED YOU AND YOU WANTED GAS, SHE CALLS, SHE HAS TO GO ON THE PHONE ORDER. LIKE THE PLUMBING MESSED UP ONE TIME WE HAD TO CALL AND GET PORTA POTTIES OUT THERE AND SCHEDULE TO MEET 'EM OUT THERE, GET 'EM OFFLOADED, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO ACTUALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST PHONE. OKAY. ON THE KIND OF WORK IN THE SYSTEM OUT PORTA POTTY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE WHERE THEIR POTTY POTTIES ARE AND HOW THE SERVICES WELL THAT PORTA POTTIES OUT THERE ANYMORE. NO, WE GOT, WE GOT ALL THAT FIXED NOW, SO WE NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM AGAIN. LET'S HOPE. BUT, UH, UH, WE'VE JUST, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LINE 'EM UP WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT 'EM. YOU HAVE TO MEET 'EM ON SITE AND SIGN FOR 'EM AND EVERYTHING. YES SIR. BUT THAT COULD BE SCHEDULED YOU OR YOU COME IN LATE THAT DAY OR WHATEVER. YEAH, LET'S LEAVE AT IT. TWO. OKAY. THAT'S MY OPINION. WHAT ELSE? IS THAT IT? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, PRETTY MUCH COVERS ALL OF IT. ANYBODY COMMENTS? I NO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WERE ON THE INCREASE. I DON'T KNOW THE INCREASE ON THE SUPERVISOR STILL AND THE, AND SHE ALREADY SUPERVISOR. UH, I I NO, THAT'S TOO WAY TOO MUCH. AND THE DIRECTOR INCREASE. WELL, UH, HERE'S, I MEAN, WE JUST, WELL HERE'S THE DEAL WITH, AND, AND I'M A, WE, WE CHANGED KATIE FROM A CLERK TO, UH, SHE'S THE ONLY SUPERVISOR WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. SO SHE GOT A PAY RAISE THE YEAR BEFORE LAST WHEN WE MOVED HER TO SUPERVISOR. MM-HMM. SO BY INCREASING THIS, THIS BRINGS HER IN LINE WITH ALL OF OUR GIRLS. 'CAUSE ORIGINALLY SHE WANTED TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT LIKE OURS BE PAID THE SAME. OKAY. WE WEREN'T GONNA BRING HER TO THE SAME LEVEL OF PAY AS OUR ADMINS. SO IF YOU TAKE WHAT SHE MAKES NOW PLUS WHAT SHE'S ASKED FOR, IT PUTS HER EXACTLY IN LINE WITH OUR ADMIN. YEAH. SO WE GAVE HER BIG GRADES YEARS AGO AGO. I, WE NEED TO REMEMBER, WE'VE ALREADY, AND BY CHANGING THAT TITLE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE STILL GONNA TRY TO GET THERE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING ON THAT ONE IS WE DID HELP HER THE YEAR BEFORE LAST. SO YES. YES, YES. Y'ALL DID. WE'LL LEAVE THAT ONE. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE OTHER 2000 AS IS, UH, NO SALE NOW ON YOURS? YES, SIR. SHOP FOREMAN IS IS NOT, THAT'S NOT CHANGING. NOT CHANGING. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. YEAH. NEW POSITION THERE. CUT THAT OUT. HE CUT THAT OUT. HE'S STILL, I MEAN THE PERSON'S STILL EMPLOYED, BUT AT THE RATE, WHAT THEY ARE NOW, WE'RE NOT CUTTING THE POSITION OUT. WE'RE JUST TITLE, TITLE CHANGE, TITLE CHANGES OUT. SO, UH, THE MAIL, BECAUSE I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO THAT. YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE ANOTHER JANITORIAL STAFF. YES, YES SIR. AND SO YES SIR. THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONE THAT I REALLY, REALLY DON'T WANT TO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT ANYWAY. I, I DO. YES SIR. SO I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. YES SIR. NO. OKAY. SO WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE, IS THAT THE SAME AS THAT 45 OR 45? 8 0 6 IS THE BASE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IT AT. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. MM-HMM . YES. YES. I TRIED TO PUT IT AT THE BASE. RIGHT. UH, WHAT THEN WE HAVE DIRECTOR. OH, I CHANGE, I, OKAY. I KNOW WHEN WE, WHEN YOU TOOK ON THAT POSITION YES SIR. IT WAS NOT AS DIRECTOR. IT WAS WHATEVER WE HAD YOU AT. YES SIR. AND SO WHAT YOU WANNA BE NOW IS TITLE THE THE DIRECTOR? NO, I'M I I'M THE DIRECTOR NOW. ORIGINALLY WHEN, WHEN WE OFFERED HIM THE JOB [02:00:01] IS WHEN BOBBY LEFT. YEAH. AND, BUT WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM THE MONEY THAT BOBBY WAS MAKING. THAT'S TRUE. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE WAS GIVING HIM THE TRY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S LIKE, HEY, WELL THAT YOU TAKE THIS AND RUN WITH IT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. RIGHT. YOU'D LIKE TO, TO PUT IT BACK UP TO WHERE BOBBY WAS. BASICALLY, THAT'S ALL I WAS DOING. IS IT WHEN Y'ALL ORIGINALLY PUT ME IN THIS POSITION? IT WAS AT THE BASE JUST TO TRY ME OUT. AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR AND THEN I PUT IT AGAIN IN THIS YEAR TO PUT ME BACK UP TO WHERE, UH, IT WAS THAT POSITION WAS ORIGINALLY. OKAY. BECAUSE HIS, HIS TITLE HAS BEEN DIRECTOR. YES. FOR A, IF WE GAVE HIM DIRECTOR, I DIDN'T REMEMBER. DON'T REMEMBER THAT. WE JUST NEVER ADJUSTED HIS PAY FOR THAT POSITION. WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? HERE'S MY DEAL. I THINK CASEY'S DONE A GOOD JOB. MM-HMM . ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH ALL OF US. RIGHT. ALL, I MEAN, YOU RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. AND, AND, AND MY DEAL IS, IS IF, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE HIM THE DIRECTOR SPOT BOBBY'S DEAL, I'M OKAY WITH IT IF, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T GO THAT ROUTE. SO, BUT I'M, I'M OKAY WITH IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT THEN. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR NOW. GOOD. CAN, CAN I CONFIRM? YES. UM, SO WE'RE DOING THE NEW POSITION WITH THE VINYL MAIL AND VINYL TECH AT 45 8 0 6 BASE PAY. YES. AND THEN JUST THE TITLE CHANGE FOR THE SHOP FOREMAN. NO PAY. NO. WELL HE'S, HE'S GONNA STAY WHATEVER HE IS. THE PAY OR THE, THE TITLE TWO OR ARE YOU, ARE YOU GONNA CREATE THE TITLE NAME? JUST LEAVE TO PAY? THERE'S CHANGING IN SHOP FOREMAN. IT DON'T, YOU CAN JUST CALL IT A TECH DIDN'T FOREMAN CALL HIM LIKE HE IS OKAY. LEAVE TECH. SO NO, THAT GOES AWAY COMPLETELY. YEAH. AND THEN THE DIRECTOR INCREASE IS A YES. YES. IT'S A, IT'S A, AND THEN, OKAY. SALARY ADJUSTMENT FOR SUPERVISOR IS A, NO IT'S NOT AN WHAT I CELL PHONE TAKING THAT OUT AS WELL. YEAH, THE SHOWGROUND STIPEND IS STAYINGS THE SAME? THE SAME STAYS THE SAME. OKAY. MAY JUST HAVE TO ADJUST THE HOURS THEY COME, SOMETHING'S HAPPENING THAT DAY OR WHATEVER. OKAY. YOU GIVE 'EM THE SAME TIME OR WHATEVER. I'LL TRY TO WORK THAT UP COURTNEY. OKAY. COURTNEY THAT OUT. ANYBODY? YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU BREAK SOMETHING. YOU GOOD? UH, I'M GOOD. GOOD. MY FEET, WE GOT TANGLED UP. OH, YOU GOOD JULIE? THANK YOU CASEY. YEP. APPRECIATE IT. EVERYBODY'S GOOD. APPRECIATE IT GUYS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SEE YOU LATER. MR. CHUCK. DO WE HAVE A COLOR TAB FOR MR. CHUCK? WE DO. IT IS SECOND, RED, SECOND HANG UP. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A GRAY. MY SECOND RED IS HUMAN RESOURCES. IS IT 60 GRAY ONE BACK SAID RED. THAT'S NOT RED. RED. COME BACK TO YOUR NEXT ONE. THE SECOND RED. HIS TABS ARE OFF. MINE TABS ARE PURPLE. I'M SO SORRY. I THINK YOU JUST DONE THROW ME OFF WHAT YOU'RE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO MINE. OKAY. I FOUND IT. BUT WHAT I HEARD WAS HE SAID, I THOUGHT HE SAID GRAY. I SAID I DON'T HAVE A GRAY. HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY AND THEN HE HAS A GRAY. NOBODY ELSE HAS. I THOUGHT MAN. ALRIGHT. IT JUST MESSING ME UP TODAY. I'M GOING ANYWAY. I'M GONNA GO HOME. WE FOUND YOU CHUCK. GOOD. GOOD. OKAY. MR. CHUCK, GO AHEAD. STILL EMPLOYED. OH WELL I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. . OKAY. , YOU HATED TO JUST BE DOING IT FOR HECK, RIGHT? CERTAINLY, YEAH. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, BASICALLY I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES ON THE, UH, BUDGET EXCEPT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UH, LENA A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE RATHER THAN A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE. SO THAT WOULD DO AWAY WITH THE, UH, THE BUDGET FOR THE PART-TIME POSITION AND MOVE THAT OVER TO A FULL-TIME POSITION. AND UH, THAT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY DIFFERENCE THAT YOU'RE DOING. NO, BUT WE'RE, IF YOU WELL KNOW, WE'RE WAY OVER BUDGET SO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WE GET OUR NUMBERS. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE 'EM. MM-HMM . ALL THE PART-TIMES GOING TO FULL-TIME. SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. WISH HAVE TO WAIT. I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU. YES. I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU NO. 'CAUSE YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. AND THIS THE GIRL THAT'S WORKING FOR YOU RIGHT NOW? YES. OKAY. YEAH, SHE'S BEEN, UH, WORKING FOR ME. UH, SHE WAS STARTED OUT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS AND WE PUT HER ON AS A PART-TIMER LAST YEAR. AND UH, SHE DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB. SO SHE'D BE THE ONE THAT UH, LIKE TO MOVE TO FULL-TIME IF WE CAN DO THAT. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, [02:05:01] YOU WOULD STILL HAVE A PART-TIME BUDGET, CORRECT? OR YOU'RE GETTING RID OF YOUR ENTIRE PART-TIME BUDGET? NO, TO DO FULL, GETTING RID OF HALF OF THE PART-TIME BUDGET. HALF OF THE TIME BUDGET. YEAH. I'D STILL HAVE ONE PART-TIMER THERE. IS SHE ALREADY COLLECTING ALL THE BENEFITS OF PART-TIME? NO. MM-HMM. NO. NO. NO. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW USED TO THE PART-TIMERS THAT WERE HERE ALWAYS COLLECTED GOTTA BE OVER WHAT, 30 HOURS? IT'S RE SHE GETS RETIREMENT LESS THAN SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT, BUT NOT HEALTH INSURANCE. I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE WAS WORKING 32 HOURS AND IT WASN'T A BUNCH OF DEAL, BUT, OKAY. WELL, WELL CHUCK, YOUR OFFICE RUNS VERY WELL AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. I'M TELLING YOU. WELL, YOU THANK YOU. MAKE US A LOT OF MONEY. WELL, WE, WE TRY HARD AND I'M GONNA, YOU DO, AND I'M GONNA MOVE HER INTO THAT PART A LITTLE BIT HERE OF, YOU KNOW, SHE DOES BASICALLY TAKES CARE OF RECONCILIATIONS RIGHT NOW. ALL THE RECONCILIATIONS AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, DOES A GREAT JOB OF THAT ON A PART-TIME BASIS. IF I GET HER IN HERE AS FULL-TIME, I'M GONNA START MOVING HER OVER AS WELL. SHE'LL KEEP THE RECONCILIATIONS BUT ALSO, UH, GET HER, UH, STARTED IN ON, UH, INVESTMENTS AS WELL. SO SHE TOOK HER INVESTMENT CLASSES AND SHE WILL, SHE WILL, YEAH. IF I, IF I GET HER APPROVED AS FULL-TIME, I'LL START HER ON THAT, UH, IN THE SPRING. OKAY. WITH THE, UH, INTRO TO IT. OKAY. YEP. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT GUYS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHUCK? NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU BET. YOU BET. THANK YOU. RIGHT, THERE'S OUT THERE MISS THERESA. ALL RIGHT. ROCKING RIGHT ALONG HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. HELLO. OKAY, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE REQUEST HERE. I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST. OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU KNOW KEMP IS THE ONE PERSON OFFICE. YES. AND SHE DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB. SHE DOES THE SAME REPORTS AS THEY DO IN ALL OF THE OTHER OFFICES. UM, SHE'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT SHE DOES THE DRIVE THROUGH. SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EVER WORRY ABOUT THAT OFFICE. MM-HMM . I MEAN, SHE'S JUST DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING HER UP TO A CLERK THREE, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN TERRELL AND FORNEY. THEY HAVE CLERK THREE TITLES AND, UM, BRING HER PAY UP FROM 49,012 TO 52, 442 AND SHE CAN SUPERVISE IT HERSELF. RIGHT. UM, WELL IT'LL BRING HER UP TO THAT. I WOULDN'T CALL HER A SUPERVISOR, NOBODY TO SUPERVISE OVER THERE, BUT AT LEAST SHE IS DOING THE RESPONSIBILITIES. YEP. BESIDES SUPERVISING ANYBODY THAT THE SUPERVISORS DO, SHE'S DOING THE SAME JOB THAT THE OTHER LADIES ARE DOING AT THE OTHER LOCATIONS, EXCEPT THAT SHE'S NOT SUPERVISING ANYBODY. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. SO THOSE THAT ARE HERE ARE THREES. ARE THEY SUPERVISING PEOPLE? I'M SORRY, THE CLARK THREES THAT ARE HERE, DO THEY SUPERVISE THE ONES THAT ARE IN TERRE AND FORNEY? THEY DO SUPERVISE PEOPLE. SUPERVISE, YES. OKAY. SHE HAS SUPERVIS. IS THAT GONNA CAUSE US A PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE NOW? JUST TWO WON'T GO THREE? 'CAUSE THEY DON'T SUPERVISE. I THAT'S, THAT'S, I DON'T, THAT'S HER QUESTION. I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. SHE'S BEEN HERE A GOOD LITTLE WHILE. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS BECAUSE AS I SAID, SHE DOES THE REPORTS. WE DON'T EVER WORRY ABOUT THAT OFFICE. YOU KNOW, AND SHE DOES, IT RUNS REAL SMOOTH SINCE SHE'S BEEN UP THERE. EXCEPT DO ALL THE REPORTS IN EACH OFFICE AND SHE HAS TO DO HER OWN REPORTS DOWN THERE. AND I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IT MIGHT GROW EITHER. I MEAN, WHEN FORNEY STARTED OUT, IT WAS A ONE PERSON OFFICE AND IT TOOK OFF, I MEAN, TOOK A COUPLE YEARS, BUT IT TOOK OFF FAST. YES. I MEAN, IT MAY EVENTUALLY, WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, BECOME MORE THAN A ONE PERSON OFFICE. AND SHE DOES A GOOD JOB. SHE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB. SHE KNOWS ALL THE ENDS EVERY, SHE PRETTY MUCH DOES EVERYTHING FROM THE, THE TRASH STICK TO SHE DOES. LIKE HERE YOU MAY HAVE A CLERK WORKING JUST AUTO REGISTRATION AND ONE MIGHT BE WORKING TAXES. SHE DOES ALL OF THAT. SHE DOES ALL OF THAT. SHE WORKS WELL. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO, OKAY. IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE BY YOURSELF AND DO A GOOD JOB, WE'RE GONNA GO FROM TWO TO THREE. WE GOT OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER LOCATIONS THAT'S A TWO THAT DOES A GOOD JOB. AND, AND I AGREE WITH THE JUDGE ON THAT. THEY'RE NOT SUPERVISING SO WELL. I DO AGREE WITH THE JUDGE ON THAT CASE. LIKE WE HAVE HAD CLERKS DOWN THERE LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE NO MORE. I WANNA MOVE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. COULD IT BE LIKE MAYBE A SUPPLEMENT TYPE DEAL? I WAS SAYING I DON'T GET INTO SUPPLEMENTS. YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT? NO. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, OR CAN WE GIVE IT ANOTHER CLASS MYSELF? COURTNEY DOES A GREAT JOB. CAN WE DO ANOTHER CLASS KNOW SHE WORKED WITH, OH, I KNOW HER VERY WELL AND, AND SHE, I SETTING US UP. SO WHEN IT COMES, REMEMBER NO, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THIS'S, THE, WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT IS EVERYBODY ELSE BE LIKE, I, WHAT [02:10:01] IS SHE? YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE AND TAKE CARE OF IT AND NOT EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PLUS BY ITSELF. AND SHE DOES FILL IN AS SUPERVISOR AT THE OTHER OFFICES WHEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE OUT. YEAH. SO SHE'S A SUBSTITUTE SUPERVISOR IF NOTHING ELSE. YEAH. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NEXT THING I WAS GONNA SAY. YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE IN 40 FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS COMING UP JUST THE OTHER DAY. YOU BROUGHT HER UP HERE TO DO THAT. YEP. DO JUST THAT. SO, I MEAN, YEAH. NOW CAN WE, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEM, THE JUDGE IS SPEAKING OF LIKE IF SHE DECIDES TO EVER MOVE FROM THAT SPOT, SHE'D HAVE TO TAKE A SUPERVISOR SPOT SOMEWHERE ELSE. SHE COULDN'T TAKE A CLERK SPOT. SHE'D HAVE TO NOTICE THAT. YEAH. SO SHE'D HAVE TO DROP IN PAY. YES. THAT'S I'M SAYING IF WE PUT HER THERE, SHE CAN ONLY MOVE TO A CLASS THREE. ABSOLUTELY. IT, SHE COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE. THAT'S WRONG. SHE HAVE TO TAKE A DROP IN PAY. YEP, YEP. OR TAKE A CUT AND PAY. YEP. YEAH, EITHER ONE. IS THAT FAIR? DID YOU GUYS, THAT'S ALL FOR HOLDING UP THE CEILING. GOOD. OKAY. YEAH. JUST A THOUGHT. I MEAN, I LIKE TO REWARD PEOPLE. I MEAN, ALL OF THEM DO A GREAT JOB. DO NOT GET ME WRONG. YEAH. ALL OF MY PEOPLE DO A GREAT JOB. LIKE REWARD EVERY I LIKE, YOU KNOW? YEAH, OKAY. I ALWAYS CALL HER HAPPY. SHE ALWAYS HAPPY. YEAH. SHE IS VERY, VERY HAPPY AND FRIENDLY. ALWAYS. THAT'S THE REASON SHE MOVED FROM TWO DOWN TO FOUR. SHE STAY HAPPY. . YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, SHE LIVES CLOSER TO US SO SHE'S YEAH, SHE LIVES DOWN OFF OF THERE YOU GO. YEAH. A ROAD NORTH. I AIN'T GOING TO CALL HER ADDRESS UP. SHE LIVES . YOU BETTER NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU THERESA. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH. OKAY, JUDGE, I'LL MESSAGE NATHAN. YEAH. YOU HAVE THAT ANSWERED AND THEN THE S GENTLEMAN WILL BE HERE AT TWO. WE'LL TAKE, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK TILL SOMEONE SHOWS UP. OKAY. SO YOU YES SIR. YES SIR. THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU MAN? GOOD. YES SIR. YOU DO. ALRIGHT, WE'RE BACK ON. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE DPS HERE TO DISCUSS, UH, TWO OF THEIR POSITIONS AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM. GOOD AFTERNOON OFFICER. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, WHATEVER. WE'RE READY TO BEGIN. YES SIR. ALRIGHT, SO WE KIND OF DID A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION THAN WE DID FOR YOU LAST YEAR, UH, WITH SOME NUMBERS. 'CAUSE I KNOW NUMBERS PROVE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. UM, WON'T GO OVER MUCH SPECIFICS, BUT KIND OF LOOKING AT THE TAR OFFICE IS ENCOMPASSING 22 EMPLOYEES BETWEEN THE SERGEANT AND THE TROOPERS. UM, THE TWO ADMINS WE HAVE THERE, MS. COOK AND MS. FRENCH ARE HANDLING THE, THE BULK OF ALL OUR PAPERWORK. AND THAT'S THE PS COMING IN. THAT'S ALL THE PAPERWORK GOING OUT. UM, ALSO DOING ALL OF OUR CASE SUBMISSIONS TO THE DA HANDLING THE CITATIONS WITH THE, WITH THE JUSTICE COURTS. UH, TO KIND OF PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD 9,448 TRAFFIC STOPS ISSUING 9,183 WARNINGS AND 4,486 CITATIONS SO FAR THIS YEAR WE'RE AT 8,781 STOPS WITH 9,230 WARNINGS AND 3,524 CITATIONS ISSUED. UH, KIND OF TALKING WITH THE RESPECTIVE COURTS AND LOOKING AT THE FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED OF THIS REVENUE. ON THE MINIMUM SCALE OF WHAT THOSE CITATIONS ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT REVENUE OF ABOUT 520,025 AND 691,000 SO FAR THIS YEAR. THAT'S JUST ENCOMPASSING GUILTY VERDICTS. AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE PAYING JUST THE MINIMUM FEES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A SUBSTANTIAL, UH, INCREASE OVER THAT. UH, CRASH VOLUME, UH, 2025 1,049. CRASH REPORTS WERE GENERATED SO FAR THIS YEAR. WE GOT 671 CRASH REPORTS GENERATED. UH, SO WE KIND OF BROKE DOWN WHAT THE, WHAT THE LADIES ARE DOING FOR, FOR US IN THE OFFICE. UH, THEY ARE OUR FRONT OFFICE RECEPTIONISTS. THEY'RE ANSWERING ALL OF OUR CALLS, HANDLING THE WALK-INS FOR CRASH REPORT, PURCHASING, HANDLING OUR SUPPLY AND INVENTORY ORDERS, FACILITY REQUEST. THEY DO ALL THE RECORDS RETENTION SO WHEN RECORDS ARE PASSED RETENTION, THEY'RE HANDLING ALL THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL OF THAT. AND, UH, THE ADDITIONAL OF ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US THERE. UH, THE NEXT FEW PAGES, UH, WE DID REQUEST SOME JOB DUTIES OF THE OTHER CLERKS THAT WORK AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO OPEN RECORDS CLERK, UH, BASIC CLERK, AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER CLERKS. SO AS YOU SEE WHEN WE COMPARING, UH, WHAT THE OTHER CLERKS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DO, THEY'RE ENCOMPASSING A LOT OF THE DUTIES OF WHAT OUR LADIES ARE DOING AS THEIR CLASSIFIED AS JUST A SECRETARY THERE. SO KIND OF BREAKING IT DOWN, UM, WHEN WE COMPARE, LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR WITH THE, UH, WAXAHATCHEE OFFICE, THEY HAVE TWO COUNTY SUPPLIED ADMINS THERE. UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY MAKING $59,006 THERE, UH, EACH FOR THE GIRLS, UH, WHICH OURS ARE RIGHT AT WHAT? 49,000 IS WHAT THEY'RE MAKING HERE. UH, WITH THOSE POSITIONS FUNDED AS AS SECRETARIES, UH, AS WE CAN SEE THEY PERFORM THE JOB DUTIES OF A SECRETARY AND ADMIN AND ALSO RECORDS CLERK, UH, WITH THAT WORKLOAD THAT THEY ARE ENCOUNTERING, UH, [02:15:01] ASSISTING WITH THE REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY, GETTING THAT SUBMITTED AND THEN LOOKING AT THE COST. WOULD IT BE TO RETRAIN OR REHIRE IF WE LOSE ONE OF THESE QUALIFIED GIRLS, THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A, A MAJOR OFFSET THERE? YES. UH, SO AT THIS POINT WE WOULD UH, LIKE THE COURT TO CONSIDER CHANGING THEIR CLASSIFICATIONS TO A RECORDS CLERK AS OPPOSED TO JUST A BASIC SECRETARY TO REFLECT THE WORK THEY DO. WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT AND WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE TITLES AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO UP THEIR SALARY. SO, UH, BRANDON, WHAT DID WE, SO I THINK WE DECIDED ON 55,688, UM, TO BE COMPARABLE TO THE KSO SECRETARIES. 55 6 88. OKAY. AND THEN THAT'LL BE A GREAT THERE. YES SIR. I THINK HE HAS TWO OF THEM. YEAH. AND BOTH OF THEM, THEY DECIDED BE COMPARABLE, SIR, DOING SOMETHING. BUT YOURS IS DOING OPEN RECORD AND ALL THE CASE CORRECT. AND STUFF JUST LIKE WE MY PEOPLE ARE DOING. YES SIR. YEAH. AND THEN WE, I THINK WE DECIDED THAT THE, THEIR TITLE WOULD BE SECRETARY. CORRECT. WE JUST LEAVE IT JUST LIKE SECRETARY BUT MAKE IT, HOW YOU SAY WIND UP. YES SIR. OKAY. YEP. THAT'D BE A GREAT HELP. SO THEY'LL, WE CAN RETRAIN THEM. 'CAUSE LIKE I SAY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VALUABLE ASSET TO, TO WHAT WE DO THERE AND WE'RE FINDING A QUALITY PERSON THAN RETRAIN 'EM IS COSTLY. AND NOW WE'RE FIXING MORE TROOPERS. SO THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF EVERYTHING COMING ON TOP OF 'EM. WELL I WANT TO COMPLIMENT SOME OF YOU TROOPERS. I'M ONE OF THOSE 9,183 RECEIVED A ONE. YEAH, HE WAS NICE ABOUT IT THOUGH, . HE SAID JUST DON'T DO IT AGAIN. YOU'D BE SO NICE ABOUT IT THAT IF YOU GOT A TICKET YOU'D BE OKAY WITH THAT TOO. THAT'S NICE ABOUT IT. RIGHT? I DID WHAT HE SAID I DID. SO . ANYWAY, I'M GOOD. GOOD. I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMEND THEM BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY HELP US. WE HELP THEM AND IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. YEAH. HAVING THESE TWO SERGEANTS ON BOARD PLUS OUR LIEUTENANT AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE WORK WITH, WE'VE GOT A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. WE WANT TO KEEP IT. AND I KNOW MY STAFF HAS A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS SECRETARIES 'CAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS SWAPPING, YOU KNOW, STUFF. SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK TOGETHER AND THEY'RE GETTING PAID THE SAME AND IT JUST MAKES LIFE A LOT EASIER. AND WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON WHAT WE CAN DO COLA YET. SO IT'LL BE ON TOP OF THAT. YES SIR. THAT'D BE FINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. GENTLE Y'ALL. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OVER. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. LAST THREE YEARS. WE'RE ALL STARING AT, THEY MAY LEAVE LIKE, MR. NATHAN, COME ON DOWN. . HOW ARE Y'ALL? WE'RE GOOD. SO TODAY'S, UH, DISCUSSING POSITIONS. MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, I SPOKE WITH THE AUDITORS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND DISCUSSED, UM, REQUESTING TWO POSITIONS IN MY DEPARTMENT. UM, I'VE BEEN WANTING A, A DESKTOP, UH, ANOTHER DESKTOP TECH FOR A WHILE. UM, THAT'S WHO MOST PEOPLE SEE, UM, GOING AROUND JUST DOING REGULAR TICKETS. UM, BUT AFTER LAST YEAR I'VE ALSO FELT THE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT SPECIALIZES ON CYBERSECURITY AND MONITORING AND, UM, TAKING CARE OF THOSE ALERTS THAT COME THROUGH AND THE ACTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED. UM, RIGHT NOW I'M IN, IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK I'LL ALWAYS BE IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERY SINGLE ALERT THAT COMES THROUGH, BUT I'M PRETTY HANDS ON IN THAT AREA. UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO POSITIONS THAT I WAS ASKING FOR. CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUT THERE? SALARY RANGE? IS THIS CO COMPETITIVE? WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMPETITIVE, UH, VERSUS OTHER COUNTIES IN OUR AREA OR NOT. I'M SURE THE PRIVATE SECTOR'S MORE PRIVATE SECTOR'S BLOWN UP, BUT YEAH, WE ALL KNOW THAT IF WE WORK HERE, . YEAH. SO, UM, IT FELT RIGHT COMPARED TO MY POSITIONS THAT I ALREADY HAVE. UM, THE, THE DESKTOP SPECIALIST IS I THINK THE SAME SALARY AS WHAT I HAVE, UH, FOR TWO OF MY OTHER ONES. AND THEN, UM, THE CYBER IS KIND OF LIKE IN BETWEEN THE ENGINEER THAT I HAVE AND THEN THE SYSTEMS PERSON. SO, UM, SO, SO THIS ONE POSITION YOU HAVE HERE IS SENIOR FIELD, UH, FIELD TECH. IS THAT KINDA LIKE THE DESKTOP GUY? YES SIR. OKAY. I WANT SOMEBODY WITH EXPERIENCE. THAT'S WHY I PUT THE SENIOR ON THERE. RIGHT. UM, BUT UH, THAT'S ALSO WHAT ONE OF THE OTHER POSITION TITLES WERE. UH, I DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE ORIGINAL TITLES IN MY DEPARTMENT, . UM, IT WAS MY PREDECESSOR SO I KIND OF JUST STUCK WITH THEM. BUT IT MAKES SENSE. I'VE, I'VE RESEARCHED WHAT THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WOULD ENTAIL [02:20:01] AND IT, IT FALLS LINE. SO. OKAY. GUYS GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR NATHAN? NO, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED. 'CAUSE Y'ALL ARE SO BUSY. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. RIGHT? IT'S, IT, AND I LOOKED, UM, IT WAS APRIL, 2023 WHEN I LAST ADDED SOMEBODY AND THAT WAS A SOFTWARE SPECIALIST. I THINK A LOT OF THE COURTS WANTED ME TO HAVE SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY FOR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. YEAH. UM, SO WE GOT A SOFTWARE SPECIALIST IN, BUT I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN HOLDING OFF AND THE COUNTY'S BEEN GROWING EVERY SINGLE YEAR. UM, NOT JUST THE CITIZENS, BUT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN GROWING. SO, UM, I KNEW I'D BE UP HERE ASKING ONE DAY. UH, AND NOW, NOW WE'RE FINALLY HERE, SO. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. I DON'T HAVE OKAY. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DOES. NO. AND THEN WE, WE, AND WE'RE GOING TO, YEAH, WE DEFINITELY NEED . UH, ALSO REEVALUATE, UH, YOURS TOO PERSONALLY. OKAY. SO WE'LL GET DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AMONGST OURSELVES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. REALLY QUICK. . YOU DON'T MIND THAT, DO YOU? NO. OH, BEFORE YOU LEAVE , ONE MORE QUESTION. ONE MORE QUESTION YOU JUST THOUGHT. YEAH. OKAY. IS Y'ALL, YOU'VE ALL BEEN IN THE JUSTICE CENTER AND YOU GOT THE BIG TV SCREEN THERE IN THE FOYER, WHICH DOES NOT WORK. MM-HMM . AND I NEED TO CALL THAT GUY. HE'S SUPPOSED TO COME TODAY. SO HE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME TODAY. THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT A CABLE THERE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO YOU GOT A TV WITH NO CABLE OR ANYTHING TO IT. NOT SURE HOW THAT GOT THROUGH , BUT THAT'S TRUE. THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SOFTWARE, UM, IT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT AND IT NEVER, NEVER WENT THROUGH. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SLIDESHOW OF SOMETHING, WHICH YOU COULD JUST GET A FLASH DRIVE AND PUT A SLIDESHOW IF YOU WANTED. BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF HAVING AT LEAST THE WEATHER OR SOMETHING THERE. WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT THE WEATHER CHANNEL ON. IT DOESN'T OFFEND ANYONE. YOU FIND THE WEATHER. HERE WE GO. BUT ANYWAY. AND SO HOPEFULLY WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THERE IS WE, WE USE OURS FOR, I'VE GOT 'EM, MINE ALMOST EVERYWHERE YOU CAN SEE IS WE PUT ALL OUR POSTINGS UP FOR OUR JOB. WE PUT THE WEATHER, WE PUT ANY PROMOTIONS AND ANY VITAL INFORMATION LIKE THE SECURITY STUFF ABOUT COMPUTER STUFF. I'VE GOT THAT UP EVERY TIME. EVERYBODY'S GOTTA SEE IT EVERY TIME YOU WALK UP. SO THAT'S THE STUFF WE'RE PUTTING ON OURS. AND IT ROTATES OUT AND THEN YOU PUT IT UP. WE COULD DO THE SAME THING. I, I THINK IT WORKS REALLY COOL. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SECURITY STUFF? WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? COMPUTER CUT IT OFF ON THE WEEKENDS. ALL THE STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR SECURITY. OH, I'LL MAKE SURE MY EMPLOYEE SEES IT ALL, ALL THE TIME. OH THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE LIKE IN THE LOBBY. THAT'S SO THE PUBLIC WOULD. YEAH. YEAH. BUT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT ROTATES EVERYTHING SO, YEAH. MM-HMM . SO ANYWAY, WE CAN PUT A LOT OF STUFF ON THERE. YEP. WE HAVE SOMEONE TAKE CARE OF THAT. I'M GONNA CALL HIM TODAY. HE WAS SUPPOSED, HE'S THE GUY THAT DID YOUR UH, JAIL BUILDING WITH ALL THE TV. SO, AND AS FAR AS THE OLD COURTHOUSE, HOW ARE WE DOING ON THAT? WIRING AND EVERYTH? EVERYTHING. I'M GONNA GET IT. THE WIRING'S GREAT. I, I NEED TO, SO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HERE IS GONNA BE THERE AND UM, THAT'S LIKE I WOULD THINK MOSTLY DONE, BUT THERE'S STUFF STILL IN THE CLOSET. WE'RE DOING GOOD. WE'RE STILL ON ON SCHEDULE. OKAY. UM, SO GOOD DEAL. SHOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU NATHAN. YES SIR. ALL WELL JUST HAVE ONE TROUBLEMAKER LEFT. IS THIS ME? IT'S YOU. I DON'T KNOW, I WASN'T WELL HOW ARE Y'ALL? LONG TIME. NO C YEAH, DON'T STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE. . WELL FIRST THING I GUESS A LOT OF STUFF HAS COME UP. I'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS BETWEEN ORG CHARTS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU ALL OF IT. SOME OF Y'ALL AND THEN THE STATS HERE AND DATE AS OF RIGHT NOW WHAT'S GOING ON? THANK, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ASKING CIVIL FINES, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO I THINK IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER THAT WAY. YOU HAVE MAN THAT'S OFF A SMALL PRINT. WELL YOU GOTTA HAVE YOUR GLASSES. YOU, IT'S SO BIG OF A PAPER. I DIDN'T WANNA PRINT A BIGGER ONE SO I SEE. I WAS TRYING TO SAVE A FEW TREES. THERE YOU GO. SO, BUT THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU OVER DEAL. I KNOW OVERALL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT OUR ORG CHART, WHAT WE'VE GOT, SO THERE'S OUR ORG CHART FOR OUR 274 EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE. EXACTLY. THE SUPERVISORS AND EVERYTHING. THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, CIVIL, ALL THAT STUFF THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, CALLS FOR SERVICE. THE [02:25:01] ONE THING I WILL UH, LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT IS THE INCIDENT REPORTS. YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY'VE GROWN AT THE VERY TOP. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL INCIDENT REPORT. THEN YOU CAN SEE REPORTS FORWARD TO CID. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT'S MOVING UP QUITE A BIT. SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE CASES TO WORK AND I WAS HOPING WE WAS GONNA GET A GRANT 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A GRANT FOR PEOPLE. I TRY TO STAY OUT OF THEM BUT THAT WAS A TOO GOOD OF A DEAL TO BE TRUE. UH, WE TRY, WE TRIED DO IT, TRYING TO DO IT AND UH, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK. I TALKED TO THEM, WE FOLLOWED BACK UP 'EM 'CAUSE EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT HOW GREAT IT WAS GONNA BE, HOW THEY WAS GONNA DO IT. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE STATE HAS PICKED UP NO NEW TASK FORCE. THEY'RE JUST FUNDING WHAT THEY GOT. 'CAUSE THEY SAID THEIR MONEY'S RUNNING OUT. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BUT ALL I KNOW IS WE DIDN'T GET IT. YEAH. SO WHAT I'M COMING TO YOU TODAY IS TALKING ABOUT. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, I PUT ON MY SHEET, UH, MOVING THE STREET CRIME INVESTIGATOR, WHICH WASN'T GONNA BE NO COST TO THE US MARSHALS. I HAVE TALKED TO THE US MARSHALS, THEY'LL BE DOWN PROBABLY IN TWO WEEKS. UH, THAT DEAL IS WE PICK IT UP BUT THEY PICK UP ALL THE OVERTIME. KIND OF LIKE MY OCK PERSON, YOU KNOW, WE PAY THAT, THEY PICK UP ALL THE OVERTIME AND PAY THAT STUFF. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THAT. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF Y'ALL AIN'T NOTICED, WE'VE USED TONS OF US MARSHALS FOR US. SO I MIGHT AS WELL BE PART OF THE TEAM AND HAVE THEM IN OUR COUNTY A LOT MORE. UH, SO TO ME IT'S A WIN-WIN. IT'S A, IT'S A BETTER DEAL. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THERE. UH, ONCE AGAIN, WE HADN'T PUT NOBODY ON THE STREET IN A WHILE SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR FOUR DEPUTIES AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE COURTHOUSE THAT'S GONNA BE REOPENED. SO WE GOTTA HAVE A SECURITY IN THERE. WE'VE GOTTA ADD THAT INDIVIDUAL, THAT FOUR CARS. AND THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOKING AT A CID PERSON FOR AUTO THEFT AND ALL THIS. SO I MEAN WE'RE OUR CASE LOAD AND ONCE AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND GETTING CASES MOVING AND DOING IT. 'CAUSE WE'RE SENDING A LOT. AND UH, AS I SAID BEFORE, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING'S GOING WITH AUTO THEFT. UH, EVERY CASE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT IT, BUT EVERYTHING'S RUNNING WITH THAT. SO I GOTTA REALLY WORK ON THAT. AND IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU HADN'T SEEN IT YET. AND THE NUMBERS WE'LL COMPARE THAT WE RECOVERED OVER RIGHT AT A MILLION DOLLARS THIS LAST MONTH. SO WE'RE WORKING IT HARD AND THEN THE CASES ARE COMING IN TO WORK IT HARD. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THERE. AND ADDING ONE MORE CID VEHICLE, IF WE APPROVE THAT CID PERSON, THAT'D BE ABOUT 18,000, UH, A MONTH ON THAT. SO I KNOW IT'S A BIG ASK, BUT LIKE I SAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HADN'T HAD ANYBODY TO THE STREET. THIS IS GONNA HELP WITH MY COMP TIME. UH, WE'RE GONNA DO SWING SHIFTS AND PUTTING TWO AND TWO, IF YOU NOTICE WE'VE BEEN DROPPING OUR CROP TIME OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT. BUT JUST TO TRY TO FIX THAT IN BETWEEN SHIFT CHANGES, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOTTA HAVE IT. YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE THAT'S DEDICATED TO GO TAKE THEM CALLS THAT ARE OTHER, CAN GET THEIR BUSINESS TAKEN CARE OF AND GET OUT. SO THAT'S OUR REQUEST. I UNDERSTAND BUDGET'S TIGHT AND STUFF, BUT I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE. SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE CID THE NEW CID POSITION. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT WE WAS GONNA GET THE OTHER, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE. BUT AS THEY SAY, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS AND SEE THAT THE GROWTH AND IT'S, IT, IT'S, IT'S BUSY. SO THE MORE CASES WE'VE, I GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE TO GET THE CASES TOGETHER AND GET 'EM OVER THERE. WHEN, WHEN YOU RECOVER ALL THESE THINGS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT MONEY DO DO, DOES THE COUNTY GET RETAINED? VERY LITTLE. VERY LITTLE. AND AND THE REASON BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. UH, SO I MEAN YEAH. THE VALUE OF IT IS THAT WE JUST GET THE CLAIM, THE VALUE THROUGH THE STATE AND OUR REPORT. BUT WE DON'T GET NOTHING OUT OF IT. THE ONLY THING WE DO GET SOME THE COUNTY GETS OUT OF IT IS ALL THESE STOLEN TRAILERS. ALL THE STUFF THAT WE GET. YEAH, WE SELL THAT IN GENERAL. WE SELL THAT. IT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SHE SEES THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. SHE CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A GREAT NUMBER, BUT WHEN WE DO STUFF LIKE THAT, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN'T, UH, IDENTIFY AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUT A NUMBER ON IT AND WE CAN SELL IT. IT GOES BACK TO ALL THAT STUFF GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO IT'S STILL RECOVERING STUFF THAT PEOPLE HAVE. IT'S BEEN STOLEN. NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE RIDE FOR OWNER. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW OR THE INSURANCE COMPANY. THE INSURANCE COMPANY. YEAH. AND THEN WE'VE HAD SOME TIMES WHERE INSURANCE COMPANY DIDN'T TAKE IT AND THEY GIVE IT BACK TO US AND THEN WE SELL IT. SO THAT'S HOW WE GET SOME OF THE MONEY. OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR HELP WITH THAT. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE I SAY, WE HADN'T HAD ANYBODY ON THE STREET IN A WHILE AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN. I KNOW IT'S Y'ALL'S, BUT SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE GOT A BUDGET TO LIVE IN TOO. WILL YOU FIGURE THOSE NUMBERS? YEAH. OKAY. WE, [02:30:01] I GOT I THINK TWO POSITIONS LEFT. THE HARDEST ONE I'M HAVING TO FILL RIGHT NOW, THE ONE WHICH IS A FORENSIC PERSON. REALLY. I HAVE REALLY HAD, HECK, WE HAD SOMEBODY, UH, APPLY FINALLY WE WAITED FOR HIM EVER. HE FINALLY GOT HIS TEXAS LICENSE AND THEN HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE HIS SHERIFF INTERVIEW AND HE DIDN'T SHOW UP. HE SAID HE MESSED UP. WELL AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'VE SET A GOLDEN RULE. WHEN I SET A TIME YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP. IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP, THEN YOU GOTTA WAIT SIX MONTHS. I'M SORRY, I'M I'M MEAN THAT'S YOUR FAULT, NOT MINE. YEAH. AND I'M NOT GONNA LOWER MY STANDARDS. I'LL REFUSE TO IF I LOWER MY STANDARDS. IF IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT AS THE INTERVIEW, WHAT ARE GONNA DO WHEN YOU GET TO A CASE. EXACTLY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY WHOLE THING TO IT. YEAH. I'M NOT GONNA LOWER MY STANDARDS SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE. UH, WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER RECRUITS FIXING TO GO IN, BUT I THINK WE GOT REALLY TWO OR THREE DEPUTIES. THAT'S ALL. WE WAS CLOSE AND THEN WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES THAT HAD TO TAKE CARE OF SOME PERSONAL ISSUES AND GOT THAT RESOLVED. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER PEOPLE COMING. I THINK WE GOT THREE THAT THEY'RE FIXING THE INTERVIEW AND WE'LL SEE IF IT GETS THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND MAKES IT TO ME. SO GOOD. I I THINK WE'RE DOING BETTER IN OUR DEPUTIES ASPECT. GATHERING NOW JAIL. THE JAIL'S A REVOLVING DOOR. IT'S BEEN A REVOLVING DOOR SINCE 1990 AND I, I WISH I KNEW HOW TO FIX THAT. UH, SOME PEOPLE YEAH, SOME PEOPLE THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CAREER FOR THEM AND THEN THEY REALIZE YOU GET BEHIND THEIR LOCKED DOORS, THE MENTAL HEALTH AND EVERYTHING, THEY JUST DON'T IT. TOUGH JOB. IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A VERY TOUGH TIME. DAYLIGHT. IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH. YEAH. AND AND THE MENTAL, MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF IT. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE JUST MENTALLY CAN'T TAKE THAT JOB. RIGHT. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT. HUH? I DON'T LIKE IT ON THE DEALING BUT . SO JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, THE NEW POSITION WOULD BE A SERGEANT CID CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO ALL IN THAT WOULD BE, I JUST WROTE IT DOWN. 98,240. IT'S A BASE OF 72,000 8 0 5. OKAY. I HAD 100 . PRETTY CLOSE. YEAH. I JUST, I JUST PUT 100 AND THEN LIKE I SAY THE CAR. MM-HMM . WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON THE CAR DEAL. 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE IN A TRANSITION AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MISS THAT TRANSITION. I WAS TALKING EARLIER, ALL THE CARS ARE OUT HERE. ARE THOSE FOR YOU? NO, THEY, THEM ARE OLD CARS THAT WERE TOO. OH, THOSE ARE OLD ONES. ENTER I THINK THEM ARE ENTERPRISES TO PICK UP. THEY'VE BEEN THERE A GOOD WHILE. YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH 'EM. THEY FIGURED THEY'D JUST SIT HERE. I, I GUESS SO. I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW WE HAD ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD THAT WE PERSONALLY OWN THAT WE GIVE BACK AND THEN I THINK FACILITIES WANTED IT AND YEAH. I TELL 'EM I DIDN'T CARE. I DIDN'T WANT IT. I NEEDED IT GONE. YEAH. SO, OKAY. PUT MONEY BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND OR IF WE CAN USE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO BUY A CAR, WE'RE BETTER OFF. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. BUT THAT'S WASN'T SURE WHAT THEY WERE THERE FOR. I THOUGHT. I KNEW THEY'RE PROBABLY YOURS BUT DIDN'T KNOW. YEAH. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I GOT. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S HELP AND CONSIDERATION AND OKAY. LIKE I SAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MAN, CALL ME. I'M AN OPEN BOOK. Y'ALL KNOW WHERE I'M AT. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I GOT. OKAY. SO OTHER THAN THAT, APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. I APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS? THE SHERIFF BEFORE WE GO? NO. FIELD BY ACCIDENT DIDN'T MEAN THAT BAD. NO, I I MEAN IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE 130 EMPLOYEES IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP 'EM ALL FOR YEAH. 274. IT'S, IT'S TOUGH. YEAH. AND LIKE I SAY COM COMMUNICATIONS, I THINK, UH, WELL Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. I GOT YOU. IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON THE VERY UH, BOTTOM ON THE BACK PAGE LOOK IT SAYS OPENINGS. I PUT 'EM IN THERE. YOU CAN SEE A DEPUTIES FIVE. UH, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. BUT YOU CAN LOOK NOW IN THE WHITE ONES. WE HAD 1, 2, 2 1, 2. I THINK WE'RE AT THREE THIS NEXT MONTH. SO I MEAN WE'RE SO CLOSE. IT'S PITIFUL. BUT THEN THE JAIL, YOU SEE WHERE IT'S AT. OH MAN. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE JAIL HAS JUST WENT 13 AND 15. YEAH. 13. 13. NINE, EIGHT. AND THEN THE COMMUNICATION'S KIND OF BEEN HERE AND THERE. IT AIN'T BEEN BAD. BUT YEAH. TRYING TO DO THE BEST SCAMS PEOPLE WE GOT. WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING TO PUT IN ANOTHER CONSOLE FOR COMMUNICATIONS? WE'VE GOT ALL THE CONSOLES. WE FOR NOW. RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THE DEAL IS GONNA BE, IS WHENEVER WE CAN START TRANSITIONING TO CALL TAKERS, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN DESKS AND PHONES AND STUFF FOR THAT. UH, THE CONSOLES OURSELVES. REMEMBER WE FUNDED ALL THAT. WE HAVE EIGHT. SO THAT EIGHT WILL WORK FOR US FOR A WHILE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT ANY ON CONSOLES. THE ONLY THING WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS EITHER MOVE 9 1 1 BACK TO A CERTAIN ROAD JUST TO CALL TAKERS WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE NOTE AND THE RADIO PEOPLE ARE STAYING WITH THE RADIO. YEAH. I'M TELLING YOU. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT WE'RE HE KNOWS WHERE TO GO. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE START GOING THIS WAY BECAUSE YOU GOTTA REMEMBER OUR DISPATCHERS NOW ARE ANSWERING 9 1 1, TALKING ON THE RADIO, TALKING ON FIRE AND ALL THAT. AND WE'RE JUST, WE'RE SO BUSY NOW WE'VE GOT TO GET DEDICATED RADIO PEOPLE. THEY'VE [02:35:01] GOTTA STAY ON THE RADIO. 'CAUSE IF WE CAN'T GET SOMEBODY TO GET HURT EITHER FIRE DEPARTMENT, YEAH. SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DPS, WHATEVER. WE GOTTA GET AWAY FROM LETTING THEM DO ALL THE PHONES AND STUFF AND JUST FOCUS ON THE RADIO AND LET THE CALL TAKERS AND LET THE NINE ONE ONE PEOPLE ANSWER THAT. TAKE CARE OF IT, PUSH IT IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY SEE IT. OKAY. SO GOOD. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, THANK YOU SHERIFF. ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL. I APPRECIATE IT. YES SIR. SO QUESTION. UM, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY NOS, UM, THINGS THAT WE WERE TAKING AWAY WERE FROM FACILITIES DEPARTMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS ABOUT POSSIBLY TAKING OUT AT THE MOMENT OR ARE WE LEAVING EVERYTHING ELSE IN? UM, JUST SOME CLARITY AND GUIDANCE AS FAR AS US TAKING THESE NUMBERS BACK AND KIND OF WORKING WITH THEM. WELL WE KNOW WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE NOT SAID NO TO. WE'RE STILL WAY OVER BUDGET. WE ARE. AND WE'VE ADDED A FEW NEW POSITIONS. YES. TODAY . SO YEAH. THAT LEADS US WITH, WITH YOU GO FROM THREE TO 2% COLA AND THEN YOU GO BACK THROUGH AND YOU SAY, HEY, CAN YOU CUT ONE HERE? MM-HMM . OR CAN YOU DO A PART-TIME HERE? MM-HMM . INSTEAD OF HAVING A PART-TIME, YOU GET THE FULL-TIME OR YOU DON'T GET THE FULL-TIME, YOU KEEP THE PART-TIME FOR ANOTHER YEAR. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S DECISIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO. MM-HMM . AND REALLY I LIKE FOR, WE CAN BE WORKING ON THAT OUTSIDE OF HERE. OKAY. AND THEN WHEN WE GET OUR REAL NUMBERS, THEN WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. MAKE MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS. WE CAN. YEAH. ONCE THE 25TH GETS HERE, WE GET OUR NUMBERS, THEN WE KNOW EXACTLY PERFECT WHERE WE ARE. LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN WE EXPECTED. SOMEBODY WILL BE SCREAMING. WELL, BUT WE'VE GROWN SO MUCH, WE'VE ADDED SO MUCH. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU CAN'T KEEP GROWING POPULATION AND THINGS AND NOT GROW. I HATE TO SAY IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HATE TO GROW GOVERNMENT, BUT IT HAS TO GO TO THE POPULATION. IF, IF YOU WANT SERVICES, YOU GOTTA GROW IT, THEN YOU HAVE TO GROW. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THE WORLD, BUT I KNOW MY BUSINESS, ONCE MY TRUCK FULL, I HAD TO GO BACK AND M EMPTY. I HAD TO COME BACK AND GET ANOTHER ONE. AND IF I HAD 400 MORE CANS, GUESS WHAT? I HAD TO HAVE ANOTHER TRUCK, ANOTHER EMPLOYEE SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S LIFE. MM-HMM . YEAH. YOU KNOW, THE SAD NEWS IS, SO WE'RE GOOD ROOM ON BUILDINGS SO WE CAN'T THROW BUILDINGS ANYMORE. AND THAT'S THE THING, WE STILL, WE STILL HAVE A BUILDING SHORTAGE. YOU KNOW, I HAD ONE OF THE GIRLS COME OVER THERE AND WORK POINTING THIS WEEK AND SHE SAID, GOOD GUN, I DON'T WANNA WORK OVER HERE. THIS IS TOO BUSY. AND I, AND I THINK YOU GUYS, I'D REALLY LIKE TO KEEP ROUND TO 3% COLDER THOUGH BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY SHOWS IN PEOPLE'S POCKET BOOKS VERSUS AND FLY. I KNOW INFLATION WAS HIGHER THIS YEAR THAN IT NORMALLY IS, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU I HAD TO KEEP US AROUND 3% ON THE COLA THOUGH. WE TRY TO, IF WE HAVE TO WEED OUT SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF'S GOTTA WEED IT OUT NOW. BUT WE'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW WITHOUT IT. SO IF WE HAD TO GO ANOTHER YEAR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S MY WELL PITCH ON IT. BUT SOME THINGS WAY HEAVIER THAN OTHERS. YEAH. AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, THAT'S JUST LIFE. THE REASON I SAY ON THE THREE, IT HELPS EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY GET SOMETHING NO MATTER WHERE YOU WORK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IF THINGS GET HIGHER, WE'LL WORK ON IT. MM-HMM . SO WHEN WE GET A REAL NUMBERS THEN IT'LL GET DOWN TO THE WHERE WE HAVE TO BE. SOMEBODY'S PICKING UP HER SUIT FIRST. SHE HELD UP THAT OTHER SUITCASE A WHILE AGO AND KNEW SHE IS I CALLER. OKAY. [2. Adjourn Meeting] ALRIGHT. NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MS. FEL MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND MR. COLE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.