* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. To discuss FY26-27 budget requests with the Non-Profit Organization Reach.] [00:00:03] OKAY, WE'RE BACK NOW IN OUR BUDGET HEARING. THIS IS JUST A CONSENSUS TYPE HEARING. NO FORMAL DECISIONS ARE MADE TODAY, AND THAT WILL BECOME NEXT TUESDAY. I'M GONNA DO THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO, MR. WOODALL, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK WITH US? YES. HOW'S EVERYONE THIS MORNING? GOOD. DOING GOOD. SO, UH, I THINK I'VE BEEN IN HERE THE LAST FEW YEARS TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, SO I'M BACK AGAIN. WELCOME BACK, . UM, AND IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, UH, A PAY PAID INCREASE FOR A CLERK. UM, I'VE SUBMITTED THE LAST FEW YEARS. THE THINGS THAT WE DO, THE, THE THINGS THAT SHE DOES, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THAT I THINK Y'ALL WELL AWARE OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON. UM, BASED ON OUR PAY SCALE IN THE COUNTY. UM, I'M ASKING THAT SHE BE MOVED FROM A CLERK ONE TO A CLERK TWO. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THAT'S SIMPLE ENOUGH. THAT'S, I MEAN, EASY ENOUGH. UM, THE, UH, EVERYBODY APPRECIATES THE COLAS. NOBODY IS, YOU KNOW, SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE COLAS, BUT MY FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS ON BASE PAY. I'VE ALREADY LOST ONE CLERK AND THEN HAD TO RETRAIN ANOTHER ONE. AND WHEN YOU LOSE ONE AND YOU BRING BACK IN, ALL THE KOHLERS ARE GONE. IT'S, IT'S BACK TO BASE PAY. UM, SO TRYING TO KEEP THAT PERSON AND THE PERSON THAT I, I GET, UH, MOVING FORWARD THAT, UH, I'D LIKE THAT BASE PAY TO GO UP. SO ALL FOUR ARE THE SAME BASE PAY? YES. OKAY. YES. AND WHETHER YOU CALL IT A, A CLERK ONE, CLERK TWO, A PAY RAISE, IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING A PAY RAISE, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. YEAH. I MEAN, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M AFTER. OKAY. SO, ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. APPRECIATE IT. TOO EASY. OKAY, SO Y'ALL HAVE, LET'S GO OVER, DID YOU BRING THE LIST OF, OF THE BEGINNING OF CURRENT REQUEST? YES. IS THIS ONE, IS THAT THE ONE YOU GAVE ME? YES. OKAY. THIS IS ALL THE PAYROLL REQUESTS THAT ARE INCLUDED FOR THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE GOT. Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THAT. AND SO WHAT WE DID, BASED ON OUR INCOME IS DOWN THIS YEAR FROM LAST YEAR, APPRAISALS ARE DOWN. AND SO THEREFORE WE HAVE TO ADJUST WHAT WE CAN. AND NOT EVERYONE CAN OR WILL RECEIVE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF US DESERVE. BUT NUMBERS ARE NUMBERS AND, UH, WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. [2. To discuss FY26-27 budget requests with Constable Precinct 3.] SO, UH, I GUESS WE WILL START OFF WITH THE VERY FIRST ONE HERE. UH, ON THE SUMMARY SHEET, ON THE PAYROLL REQUEST SHEET, START WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE HER ONE INTAKE AND ONE JUVENILE, UH, PROSECUTOR, SHE ASKED FOR TWO. SO, AND SHE'S WELL AWARE OF THAT. AND ALSO SHE HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR, UH, CARS. YES. TWO OF THE VEHICLES OF HER TURE FRONT ALSO. MM-HMM . SO SHE, UH, WAS NOT ABLE TO GET ALL THAT SHE ASKED FOR, BUT SHE UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS. UH, 86TH DISTRICT COURT, LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR, COURT COORDINATOR, NEEDER WAS WANTING A, UH, SUPPLEMENT, UH, THAT WAS SUNNY. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN JUDGE BLAIR WAS HERE LAST, LAST WEEK, WEEK BEFORE WHEN IT WAS, AND THE EXTRA DUTIES THAT SHE'S DOING NOW WHEN HE'S NO LONGER THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE THAT GOES AWAY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE INHERITED. UH, AND SO THAT FOLLOWS WHOEVER THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE IN DISTRICT COURT WILL BE. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE JPS FOR MAGISTRATION, THE EXTRA DUTIES THAT THEY DO NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS. AND SHERIFF CAN TESTIFY THE TIME THAT THEY'RE, HOW LONG THEY'RE AT THE JAIL, WHICH IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO. AND I THINK WE'VE ALL SEE THAT. AND WE PLUGGED IN AN AMOUNT THERE FOR THAT. THE SHERIFF, UH, HE, UH, CURRENTLY, [00:05:02] AND Y'ALL, Y'ALL PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT HE'S THE SECOND LOWEST PAID SHERIFF IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND AS BIG AS OUR COUNTY IS, WE GOT LOT, MANY LITTLE BITTY COUNTIES THAT, UH, TAKE CARE OF THE SHERIFF BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE. HE'S AT LEAST HE'S ABOVE SOMEBODY. . NOW DEAD LAST, NOT SAYING A WHOLE LOT. HEY. SO ANYWAY, HE ASKED FOR, UH, FOUR POSITIONS, UH, A CID AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW, UH, BAILIFF FOR THE OLD FORHOUSE. UH, BUT WAS ABLE TO GIVE UP ONE DEPUTY AND KEEP THE TWO OTHER DEPUTIES IN THE CID AND THAT WAS IT, RIGHT? UH, IT'S THREE DEPUTY POSITIONS. YES. THREE. YEAH. YEAH. HE ASKED FOUR, BUT THEY JUST GIVE THREE. YES, WE GIVE ONE. YEAH. GAVE ONE BACK. OKAY. UH, THE DPS WAS HERE EARLIER AND WE ALL KIND OF AGREED ON THAT THE DAY THEY WERE HERE. THE TAX ASSESSOR, UH, HAS MOVED A PERSON FROM A CLERK TWO TO A THREE BECAUSE OF JOB DUTIES, ELECTIONS. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY CHANGES. YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE ALL THE CHANGES? 'CAUSE YOU TALKED TO TANDY LAST SINCE I DID ON HER CHANGES. UM, SHE AGREED. SHE ORIGINALLY, ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR A NEW POSITION AND SHE DID AGREE TO, UM, WITHDRAW THAT REQUEST. SHE SAID THAT SHE COULD USE PART-TIME HELP AND THAT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE EXPENSES THAT GET BILLED OUT DURING THE ELECTION PROCESS. SO THAT DEFINITELY HELPED US OUT. YES. UM, AND THEN SHE HAS HER, UM, RECLASSIFICATION AND STEP PROGRAM THAT SHE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT THAT SHE PRESENTED. AND THAT'S ONLY 600 SOMETHING DOLLARS. SO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THERE ON THE ELECTIONS IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. MR. HUEY, UH, OF COURSE IS ALWAYS ASKING FOR ANOTHER NEW POSITION. WE'VE NOT DECIDED ON THAT. UH, BUT HE WANTED TO GIVE PART OF HIS, UH, COLA WHATEVER IT WAS, TO ONE OF HIS OTHER EMPLOYEES TO GET THEIR SALARY UP, WHICH HE CAN DO THAT IF HE SO DESIRES. IF IT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL. UH, AND YOU SEE THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT THERE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE POSITION FOR STEVE? ANOTHER PERSON? I KNOW HE IS ASKED A LOT AND, UH, HE'S ALWAYS HELPED ME OUT QUITE A BIT ON MY QUESTIONS ON FAMILY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. HE'S PRETTY GOOD. UH, I KNOW HE NEEDS ONE. I AM NOT SURE, 'CAUSE I'VE ASKED, GIMME A JOB DESCRIPTION. IT'S SAME THING AS THE OTHER ONES DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW. IN TIMES OF STORMS THEY'RE EXTREMELY BUSY. AND THEREAFTER WITH FEMA, THEY'RE EXTREMELY BUSY. YEAH. UH, DURING THIS TIME OF YEAR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO. SO ANYWAY, WHAT'S Y'ALL'S OPINION ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE? I THINK I, WHAT KIND OF FUNDING WISE? I, IF I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT BECAUSE WHAT I WAS WANTING TO ASK EARLIER, WHAT THE WAY WE'RE FUNDING THIS THIS YEAR WITH THE ECONOMY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE ANY OF THESE SALARY CHANGES. UH, THAT I THINK IF WE FOCUS THE REMAINING AMOUNT, BECAUSE WE HAVE 5.9 MILLION THAT COME IN AFTER THE 3% COLUMN, WE GOT 1.3 AND BY THE TIME WE PLUG IN ANY OF THE OTHER PLUGINS THAT CAME IN THAT LEFT US, UH, WITH, UH, A 46, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS DEFICIT STILL TO CUT. BUT AFTER REVIEWING OVER HOW WE GOT THERE FROM 1.8 MILLION DEFICITS, SO WE'RE ABOUT TO BRING OURSELVES INTO 1.8 MILLION MORE, UH, DEBT. WHEN, AND THREE YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME IN OFFICE, WE HAD LIKE 18 MILLION IN NEW REVENUE THAT YEAR. THIS YEAR WE HAVE 5.9 MILLION. IT'S BEEN FALLING EVERY YEAR. SO IT'S GETTING TIGHTER. SO IT KIND OF WORRIES ME. I JUST WANT US TO CONSIDER, IT WORRIES ME THAT WE'RE IN A TIME OF WAR IN THE COUNTRY. A LOT OF THE BUILDERS HAVE SLOWED DOWN AND WE'RE ABOUT TO OBLIGATE OURSELVES TO $1.8 MILLION MORE DEBT BY MOVING NUMBERS AROUND, [00:10:01] LIKE MOVING 500,000 FROM CONTINGENCY OVER. UH, UH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE I WANNA SAY NO TO ALL, UH, UH, PAYROLL CHANGES. THE ONLY THING I WOULD CONSIDER IS, UH, MANDATED STATE POSITIONS AND THEN SECURITY LIKE THE SHERIFF AND THE NEW COURTHOUSE. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PLUG IN HERE. SO ONCE WE, SO MY ANSWER TO ALL OF MY, SO I AIN'T SITTING THERE TALKING OVER AND OVER AND TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS IS I, I'M NOT FOR ANY PAYROLL CHANGES WHATSOEVER BECAUSE WE'RE BORROWING FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE. WE'RE BORROWING FROM THE CONTINGENCY. I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE BORROWING FROM CONTINGENCY FUND BALANCE, THE TAX RAISING THE TAX RATE OR ROAD AND BRIDGE. UH, SHE EXPLAINED TO ME THE TAX RATE WENT UP. THE DEBT RATE WENT UP, AND WE ARE ADDING TO THAT DEBT RATE IS ROAD AND BRIDGE. SO I'M OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF FACT WE GOTTA SPLIT THAT DIFFERENCE. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR ARGUMENT. UH, SAY YES. OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT THOSE GUYS GOING IN THE NEXT YEAR. RIGHT NOW, ALL THE BUILDERS I'M TALKING TO, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, EVERYTHING'S SLOWING DOWN, MOMENTUM'S SLOWING DOWN. SO I LOOK AT IT LIKE WE CAN BE 1.8 POSITIVE NEXT YEAR GOING INTO GROWTH AND OR WE CAN BE LESS THAN THIS YEAR IF EVERYTHING SLOWS DOWN ON US, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE ONE POINT WE COULD STOP THIS 1.8 MILLION DEBT RIGHT NOW. SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE ACCESS THAT'S WORRYING ME. SO, UH, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO TAKE CONSIDERATION. UH, SO THAT, I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE'RE THE ONES THAT'S GONNA PAY THE PRICE IN TWO YEARS IF IT GOES BAD. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE, Y'ALL JUST COULDN'T STOP. SO ANYWAY, JUST, I, I JUST ASKED Y'ALL AS MY FELLOW COURT MEMBERS CONSIDER THAT. UH, SO GOING THROUGH THIS, I'M NO ON ALL ANY PAY CHANGES, I AM OPEN TO, UH, POSITIONS, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE POSITIONS NEEDED THAT WE HAVE TO FILL. LIKE, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY S SPILL THERE. SO JUST TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION PLEASE ON WHAT'S GOING ON. SO, OKAY, SO WE'RE STILL BACK TO MR. HUEY. NEED SOME THOUGHTS? I GOT TOMMY'S . I'LL BE QUIET, JUDGE. FROM HERE ON I'LL BE QUIET, BUT Y'ALL HAVE THE FLOOR. YEAH, WELL KINDA LIKE TOMMY IN THE SENSE I, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GO FURTHER IN DEBT. NO. YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UM, AS FAR AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN LIKE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE CAN'T, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY NO, THE INCREASE IN THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY AFFORD IT, AT SOME POINT YOU, YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. JUST LIKE EVERY BUILDER, EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. YEAH. EVERYBODY'S SLOWING DOWN. IF EVERYBODY'S SLOWING DOWN, WE, WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN TOO. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR FUND BALANCE. UH, I'M A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO LOWER THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO GET BACK TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA LOWER THE FUND BALANCE. WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO WHERE WE MIGHT TAP INTO IT FOR THE WRONG REASON THOUGH. NO, NO. YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO EVER HAVE FURLOUGHS AGAIN. NO, NO. YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T SEE THE FURLOUGH. WE CAME IN THE YEAR AFTER FURLOUGHS. YEAH. AND WE TOOK IT AWAY FROM THAT. WE TOOK IT QUITE AWAY FROM THAT. WE'VE MANAGED WELL, WE'VE MADE EXCELLENT STRIDES. AND, AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD EIGHT TIME, I'M GONNA SAY ONE MORE THING. WE HAD 18 MILLION THE FIRST YEAR. I'M GONNA SAY YOU SOMETHING, JUDGE, I'M GONNA COMPLIMENT YOU. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING, WHEN WE CAME IN HERE, WE HAD NO FUND BALANCE. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING US BACK TO THAT PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THAT SIX MONTH RESERVE. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, THE COURT'S BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE. UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY HARD ON S AND DIFFERENT THINGS TRYING TO GET OURSELVES. SO WE'VE NOT, I'M VERY PROUD OF US, OUR COURT AND WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND IT JUST, I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THE WAR IN IRAN. EVERYTHING'S SLOWING DOWN. A LOT OF PEOPLE UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S LIKE, MAN, IF WE CAN BANK THIS THIS YEAR WHERE WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT INTO A LONG TERM. 'CAUSE PAYROLL IS LONG TERM DEBT. THAT'S 30. IT IS CAREERS 30 YEARS, 35 YEARS. IT IS IF YOU WANTED A NEW CAR, OKAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN GET YOU A CAR, BUT AT LEAST WE COULD SELL IT IF TIMES WENT BAD. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PAYROLL, IT'S LIKE WE'RE GIVING YOU 3% COLA. THAT'S A BLESSING TO EVERYBODY. AND IT'S JUST, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PAYROLL REQUESTS, THEY'RE LONG TERM OBLIGATIONS THAT WE CANNOT GET OUT OF. AND IF WE'RE BORROWING HALF [00:15:01] A MILLION FROM CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR TO MEET THESE DEMANDS, WE'RE REALLY NOT BORROWING HALF A MILLION FROM CONTINGENCY. WE HAD A MILLION LAST YEAR TO YEAR BEFORE. WE JUST KEPT IT THE SAME. OKAY. WELL I'M JUST SAYING IT'D BE NICE TO BE AT 1.5 THEN. BUT MY DEAL IS, IS IF, IF SAY IT DOES NOT GO WELL NEXT YEAR, WHO ARE WE BORN FROM NEXT? WE GOT CONTINGENCY TO PICK FROM. THAT'LL BE GONE. WE GOT FUND BALANCE. WE CAN GO AFTER WHAT WE'VE SOLD HARD TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE DON'T WANNA GO AFTER THE TAX RATE. UH, AND, AND THE ROAD AND BRIDGE. WE DON'T NEED TO LOSE ANY MORE MONEY FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE. SO I JUST DON'T WANT HISTORY REPEATED IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO BORROW FROM THESE FOUR SOURCES JUST TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SAYING NO. AND, AND I I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST PLEADING TO YOU GUYS THAT I JUST WANT WELL, THERE'S US TO THINK ABOUT TAXO THERE, HERE WE CANNOT SAY NO TO. YOU CAN'T HAVE A FLAT NO. ALL THE WAY ON, ON THIS SHEET HERE. THERE'S NO WAY. WELL, AND AND I'LL SAY WE'RE, IF ANYBODY SAYS WE CANNOT SAY NO, WHICH IS, AND AND THIS AIN'T NEGATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JUDGE, IF THEY SAY WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING EFFICIENTLY AS A COUNTY RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY'S DOING A GOOD JOB. WE'RE ROLLING ALONG. WE'VE BEEN BLESSED AS A COUNTY. SO TO SIT THERE AND, AND TO THINK TO MYSELF, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE DOOMED NOW. WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT. WHATEVER. WE HAVE A GREAT COUNTY, GREAT EMPLOYEES, WE'RE BOOMING RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY'S DOING A GREAT JOB. SO WE COULD SAY NO TO ALL OF THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S STILL GONNA BE OKAY. I MEAN IT IS. AND, AND I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO BE, WE'VE DONE SO WELL FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THEN THIS BITES US. SO I, I HATE WHEN I SAY BORROWING IS I LIKE ANY NEW REVENUE COMING IN, WE'LL ADJUST OUR BALANCES OFF OF THAT. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S GONE NO, THERE'S NO MORE. NO. SO, OKAY, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NO, EVERYTHING ON THIS SHEET EXCEPT FOR THE POSITIONS THAT WE MUST, UM, WE NEED TO SECURITY, LIKE THE SHERIFF NEEDS SOME MONEY. WELL DO YOU, YOU PICK, WE'RE GONNA GO THIS, LET'S GO LINE BY LINE SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THE ONLY, WAIT A MINUTE, LET'S JUST DA OKAY. NO, NO POSITION CHANGES EXCEPT NONE AT ALL. ALL ANYTHING. THAT'S A SALARY CHANGE. NO, FOR ME. WHAT ABOUT POSITIONS? POSITIONS I'M OPEN TO. YES SIR. ONE OF 'EM, I KNOW WE HAVE, WE JUST SWITCHED OUR HEALTH AUTHORITY. SO WE'RE UNDER STATE MANDATE TO HAVE AUTHORITY. OKAY, LET'S GO. SO WE NEED TO, THAT'S ONE POSITION WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO FILL THERE. AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S SECURITY FOR THE NEW . HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. YOU'RE GETTING WAY, WAY AHEAD. HERE. LET'S GO DOWN THIS LINE ABOUT, OKAY, I WAS GONNA ASK ONE AT A TIME TO GO ONE AT A TIME AND GET A CONSENSUS SO WE KNOW. YEAH. WE DON'T NEED TO GO ALL OVER THE BOARD HERE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, 86TH DISTRICT COURT, THAT'S A $4,000 INCREASE. YOU SAYING NO TO THAT. CAN WE DO POSITIONS FIRST AND THEN Y'ALL FILL IN LINE BY LINE? OKAY. RIGHT NOW, NO. 'CAUSE WE AIN'T PICKED OUR POSITIONS YET. JPS YOU'RE SAYING NO, NO. WHATCHA YOU GONNA DO ABOUT MAGISTRATION? UH, I'VE READ THE STATUTE ON THAT. AND THE LAW SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO, THEY WILL REIGN. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DO REGISTRATION. THEY, NO, THEY HAVE TO ARRAIGN THEIR JURISDICTION. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF I BROKE THAT DOWN, COMING FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND, UH, JP TECHNICALLY SAY THEY STILL HAVE TO ARRAIGN THEIR CLASS CS IN THEIR AREA, RIGHT? SO, UH, UH, UH, A AND B UH, MISDEMEANORS OR COUNTY COURT, THEY ALL WOULD HAVE TO ARRAIGN. SO I KNOW THE, THEY'RE UPSET RIGHT NOW THAT ALL THE JUDGES NOT IN ROTATION. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN, UH, THE JUDGES ON THAT PART. UH, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO, I THINK WITH THE COUNTY US, LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM TO BE OKAY WITH IT. SO, UH, WHAT VALUE MAKES ANYTHING? OKAY, DOES IT MAKE SENSE? SO MY DEAL IS, IS I DON'T, IT'D BE WONDERFUL TO GIVE 'EM WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO I I, MY DEAL IS NONE OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF ANY DIRECT DEAL, BUT IT'S ABOUT, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING WITHOUT TAKING FROM CONTINGENCY OR NEXT YEAR HUNDRED BORROW FROM ONE OF THE OTHER FOUR. SO I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU NOW, THE OTHER JUDGES AIN'T GONNA MAGISTRATE YOU AIN'T GONNA MANDATE IT. SO YOU'RE GONNA WIND UP HAVING TO PAY FOR SOME JUDGES. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DISTRICT JUDGE TO GET THEM. WE DONE BEEN THROUGH THE SO SAID JUDGE THAT DIDN'T WORK. SO I'M TELLING YOU NOW, THESE JSPS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. OR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS YOU'RE GONNA OVER OVERWORK ME BECAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO MOVE JUDGES TO TAKE 'EM TO THEIR COURT WHENEVER THEY HAVE COURT TO HAVE PEOPLE MAGISTRATE, THEN WE'RE GONNA GET IN TROUBLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LAWSUIT. SO I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S, THIS IS A BIG ISSUE YEAH. THAT [00:20:01] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH JPS. AND, AND LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, SHERIFF, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE JPS THAT ARE UNHAPPY RIGHT NOW. I DON'T SAY THEY'RE UNHAPPY. THEY'RE DOING THE JOB. OKAY. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. YEAH, BUT THEY'RE TAKING ON MORE AWAY FROM THEIR OFFICE THAN YOU. IT'S NO MORE. IF I GIVE YOU, LET'S SAY 10,000 MORE ROADS, MILES OF ROADS, YOU GOTTA DO THAT. YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE TO DO IT. YOU JUST CAN'T SAY, NO, I'M NOT GONNA DO IT. WELL, I ASKED A FEW PEOPLE, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO NOT ONLY TO FORM MY OWN OPINIONS, I REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC THIS WEEK, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE, I CALLED OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN OTHER COUNTIES AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, I NEED SOME WISDOM HERE ON THIS. HOW I SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS. AND BEING THAT THEY AND THEIR CONSENSUS WAS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. LIKE, HEY, Y'ALL PAY THEM 98,000 A YEAR PLUS A CAR ALLOWANCE PLUS THIS. THEY'RE, AND, AND AS ALL OF US ELECTEDS, OKAY? AND WE TOOK ON THIS POSITION, SOME OF US RUN FOR REELECTION, KNOWING AFTER SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS JOB WHAT WE WAS TAKING ON. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. SO, UH, MY DEAL IS, IS TO COME IN AND SAY Y'ALL, IT'S ALMOST LIKE Y'ALL HAVE TO ACT ON THIS. I DON'T, I'M ACT I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE COURT HERE TO, TO HAVE TO DEAL THAT WHEN THE STATUTE'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S, AND WE LEARNED IN THE POLICE ACADEMY AS POLICE OFFICERS, THAT TECHNICALLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT TO THE NEAREST MAGISTRATE. RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S IT. SO YOU'RE, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE PEOPLE. SO YOU'RE GONNA REALIZE THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME TO JAIL. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE 'EM TO ALL THEIR OFFICES. SO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE YOU'RE GONNA ADD ON ME. SO HOW MUCH FIXES THE PROBLEM? HOW DID WE COME 11,700? HOW DID WE COME TO THAT NUMBER? THE AGREEMENT IS BECAUSE THIS IS A DEAL AND IT AIN'T AN AGREEMENT. IT'S, IT'S WHAT'S RIGHT WITH ALL THE MANDATES THAT OUR LEGISLATORS HAS PUSHED DOWN ON US AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. THEY'RE IN THE JAIL MORE TIMES THAN THEY EVER HAVE USED TO. THEY'D COME IN THERE AND SPEND A HOUR GET OUT. I MEAN, IF IT'S A REALLY BAD WEEKEND, MAYBE AN HOUR AND A HALF, THEY'RE SPENDING HALF A DAY IN HERE NOW HAVING TO DO ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S MANDATED BY OUR LEGISLATORS THAT DIDN'T FUND IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. OKAY, WELL I WILL SAY THIS, I DID PUT SOME MATH TO THAT I WASN'T GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT REALLY. BUT SINCE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT HERE, I DID PUT THE MATH TO IT. SO IF YOU DO 11,700, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD BE SUB, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, BEING HERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE. RIGHT? SO IF THEY COME IN ON A WEEK, ON WEEKEND, SO LET'S JUSTS TALK ABOUT THE WEEKENDS. THERE'S FOUR JUDGES, ONE ROTATION PER WEEK THAT LEAVES THEM 12 WEEKENDS A YEAR THAT THEY'RE AT THAT JAIL FOR TWO DAYS, RIGHT? SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, IF YOU PUT THE MATH $11,700 THAT THEY'RE GETTING PAID $463 A DAY TO SHOW UP TO DO THIS. THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE REST OF IT THAT YEAH, YOU'RE JUST INCLUDING WEEKENDS. BUT THEY'RE COMING DOWN HERE, TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR OFFICE. THEY'RE COURTS TO SEND DOWN. IT WAS THE CITIZENS FILLED ABOUT THAT. IF IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING 'EM 98,000 A YEAR. SO WELL YOU EITHER DO THAT OR WE DON'T GET THE STUFF DONE AND THEN WE GET SUED. WE'D HAVE TO GET, WE BILL GUIDANCE. I'LL JUST GIVING YOU MY OPINION, THERE'S FIVE VOTES, VOTES HERE. SO I, I AIN'T, I DON'T WANNA SIT THERE ARGUE. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I I HAVE, I HAVE ALREADY DONE THROUGH THIS ASSOCIATED JUDGE DEAL. IT DIDN'T WORK. YEAH, WE LIKE TO GET SUED OVER IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THEY'RE IN THERE A LOT. WELL, WE'RE GOING INTO A $1.8 MILLION DEFICIT TRYING TO FUND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD. THAT'S WHY I'M NOT FOR IT. OKAY. SO, I DON'T KNOW. I TRUST THE JUDGE. HE'S MY BUDGET GUY. SO YEAH, I KNOW. I JUST FEEL LIKE, LIKE I SAY, IF IT'S WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT, IF THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO IT, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT, $200,000 TO COVER IT OURSELVES. YEAH. I MEAN, AND, AND THEY VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS YEARS AGO. AND UH, I KNOW THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE SICK OF IT. I, I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME AND HOW MUCH TIME HE LOSES AT HIS OFFICE AND THE PAPERWORK THE GIRLS HAVE TO TAKE ON TOO. OKAY. NOW THE NEXT THING IS, IS IF WE GET 11 SEVEN, THEY'RE MAKING MORE THAN THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS COURT AT 108, 109,000 A YEAR WHEN WE'RE AT 105,000 A YEAR. SO JUST REMEMBER THAT, THAT SUBSIDY, THAT'S JUST MADE FINE. BUT I'M NOT OVER, I'M NOT OVER, I'M NOT OVER DOING IT MYSELF. I'M SAYING I'M THEY SAYING THEY'RE GONNA BE THE, THAT'S GONNA PUT THEM IN THAT BRACKET. I'M GOING TO BE FOR IT. WELL, THING ABOUT IT IS 'CAUSE WHAT I CAN MAGISTRATE, BUT I'M NOT ABOUT THAT THING. , THAT'S FINE. WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT THAT THING. HEY, I'LL RESPECT THE VOTE Y'ALL VOTED IN. I JUST, I CAN'T AGREE TO THAT. SO THE OTHER, WE KNOW THE ALTERNATIVE, IT'S WORSE THAN THIS. OTHERWISE JUDGE, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. YOU DON'T HAVE $250,000 EITHER. I'M SAYING YOU SPEND 40, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND 250. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BY THE STATUTE, THEY WILL HAVE TO ARRAIGN BY LAW. SO, I MEAN IT'S NOT, YEAH. ALRIGHT. IT AIN'T AN ARGUMENT. I'M SAYING I'LL GIVE YOU MY OPINION. I MEAN, ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. THERE'S FIVE VOTES HERE. WE'LL MOVE [3. The Commissioners Court will review and discuss the proposed budgets presented by each county department/office to determine the county's 2026/2027 fiscal year budget.] ON. SHERIFF, ANY, ANY ADJUSTMENTS THERE? ALRIGHT. I ALREADY GAVE [00:25:01] MY OPINION. I ALREADY TOLD YOU. NO. 'CAUSE WE ONE OF THE MONEY. SO WON'T YOU ASK THE OTHER THREE? I'M ASKING EVERYBODY. NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M DONE WITH, I'M ASKING EVERYBODY. I'M FOR IT. IT'S ALL CONSENSUS. NOW. THIS IS NOT FINAL. CAN I CONFIRM THAT? ARE WE ALL IN? I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. . I THINK WE'RE ALL IN FOR TIME TO GET SAFE ONE TIME ABOUT EVERYTHING. OKAY. SO, SO FAR WE'RE GOOD. SO FAR. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE EVEN EVERYTHING UP TO THE SHERIFF. AND WE'RE ON THE SHERIFF, RIGHT? WE'RE ON THE SHERIFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SHERIFF? NO DPS CLERKS? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOW DOING MORE THAN JUST CLERICAL WORK. WE HAD THE GUYS HERE DPS. OKAY. SINCE THERE ARE TAX ASSESSOR, IT'S A JOB CHANGE COMMENTS? NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A POSITION THAT, I MEAN POSITION. SHE SHE BY HERSELF DOWN THERE AND, AND SHE IS A SUPERVISOR SO SHE PULLS HER OUT. PEOPLE'S ON VACATION. TOMMY'S OFFICE, A SUPERVISOR. SO DOWN FOUR? YEAH. WHO'S THAT? OH, THE TAX LADY AT YOUR OFFICE? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. LITTLE. UH, YEAH, SHE DIDN'T USE HER FOR A SUPERVISOR, BUT SHE'S BEEN ON PEER SUPERVISOR NOW SHE HAS TO USE HER. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. ALRIGHT. ELECTIONS. YEAH, LIKE TAMMY SAVED WITH SOME MONEY THERE. WE'RE GOING FROM FULL-TIME TO PART-TIME AND THEN ENTITIES HELP PAY THAT WHEN WE DO ELECTIONS, WHICH RECOUP OUR MONEY. MM-HMM . WHICH SAVING US SOME MONEY. OKAY. DOWN TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THAT'S EITHER WHAT YOU THINK I'M AGAINST THAT? YEAH. . YEAH. I MEAN I KNOW I'D LIKE TWO, BUT YEAH, WE ARE HAVING TO CUT EVERYWHERE WE CAN. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WE OUGHT TO GET THAT, BUT, OKAY. I'M SORRY. I, I I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT. THANK PETE ON BOTH WE'RE SAYING NO TO BOTH. THERE'S A NEW POSITION AND THEN THERE'S A SALARY ADJUSTMENT. WAS THAT SALARY ADJUSTMENT THE PART THAT'S GOING TO TIFFANY FROM STEVE? WELL HE'S GIVING THAT UP VOLUNTARILY SO HE CAN DO THAT. WE DID NOT REDUCE STEVE. THAT WAS HIS REQUEST. WHEN GONNA GIVE UP THIS CALL FOR THAT TO HER. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL. AND THEN WE CAME BACK AND WE SAID THAT WE WERE GONNA LEAVE STEVE WHERE HE WAS AT BECAUSE IT WASN'T THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE. AND THEN WE WERE GONNA ADJUST HER SALARY BY 6,880. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS COLA? I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT EQUAL TO? IF WE TAKE 3% OF HIS SALARY, WHAT IS THAT BASE? I DON'T HAVE THAT FINGER. LET'S COME BACK ON THAT ONE THEN. NEXT COUNTY AUDITOR. WE HAVE A NEW POSITION THERE. SHE ASKED FOR TWO, WE GAVE HER ONE. AND THAT PERSON WOULD BE DOING WHAT? SO THE POSITION THAT I WOULD LIKE, IF I CAN'T GET BOTH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDITOR. UM, WITH THE COUNTY GROWING, WE HAVE NEW DEPARTMENTS AND NEW INTERNAL AUDITS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO, THAT WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND ON THAT WE NEED TO DO. OKAY. SO WE INTENTIVELY AGREED TO ONE. YEP, THAT'D BE FINE. ALRIGHT. PURCHASING. SHE CAME IN AT ONE SALARY AND WHEN WE HIRED HER BASED ON PRODUCTION AND GETTING OFF HER CERTIFICATES AND EVERYTHING, IT WOULD GO TO WHAT THE, UH, DISTRICT JUDGE HAD AGREED TO. SO THAT'S THAT INCREASE THERE. YEP. COUNTY TREASURER, CHUCK WANTED, UH, A PART-TIME ANOTHER FULL-TIME. AND SO RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GIVE HIM A FULL-TIME AND CUT THE PART-TIME HELP OUT. AND I TALKED TO CHUCK AND HE'S, HE AGREED TO THAT ABOUT OUR OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING BEHIND HR, UH, THE GENERALIST I THINK. WHAT WAS TOMMY'S DEAL ON THAT? DO YOU REMEMBER? SO I AGREE THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT DOES NEED TO BE DONE. UM, THE GEN, THERE ARE TWO GENERALISTS IN THAT OFFICE. AND AT ONE POINT IN TIME WHEN ALL THE CHANGES WERE MADE WITH, UM, THE HR DIRECTOR [00:30:01] AND WHATNOT, THINGS KIND OF GOT OUT OF WHACK. UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE NEEDS THIS INCREASE TO BE SAME BASE AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN. YES. TO BE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER MM-HMM . OKAY. WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR FEELINGS GUYS? SO THEY'RE DOING THE SAME JOB. DOING THE SAME JOB. I MEAN YES. THEY'RE DOING THE SAME JOB. THEN THE SAME JOB REQUIRES SAME THING. YES SIR. I MEAN, WE WON'T HAVE A RECEPTIONIST OR WHATEVER. WE HAVE TWO YES. DOING THE SAME JOB. DOING THE SAME THING. YEAH. OKAY. AT ADOPTION CENTER, THAT'S A REDUCTION IN SALARY THERE. CHANGE OF A TITLE, BUT IT, IT DECREASES SALARY BY OVER 7,000. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. . YEAH. FACILITIES. UH, HE ASKED FOR A PERSON TO DO THE MAIL AND THE VINYL, WHICH MAKES ALL THE SIGNS, WHICH IS A NEW POSITION. I THOUGHT HE HAD SOMEBODY DOING THEM BECAUSE CURRENTLY A JANITOR, A CUSTODIAL, UM, POSITION IS DOING THE WORK. AND SO HE WOULD LIKE TO HIRE THAT POSITION FORMALLY SO THAT THAT CUSTODIAN CAN GO BACK TO BEING A CUSTODIAN. IS THAT, THAT'S ABOVE A CUSTODIAN SALARY, RIGHT? YEAH. HE'S GOT 45. THAT'S 40. THAT'S A PER HOUR? NO, HE'S GOT, UH, THAT, THAT'S CLARK ONE POSITION. WAIT A MINUTE. THAT'S TOTAL. IT'S A CLERK ONE THAT'S TOTAL, THAT'S TOTAL. THAT IS THE COST. I MEAN 45 8 0 6. YES. CLERK ONE? YES. IT'S A CLERK ONE. YES. OKAY. AND HE IS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON OVER AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE. MM-HMM . 'CAUSE ONE CAN'T DO IT. AND THEN DOES THAT REQUIRE A CLERK ONE POSITION FOR THAT? WHAT PAY? YEAH, WITH WITHOUT THAT PAY, I MEAN NOT CONSIDER WHAT, LIKE I SAY, WHAT MATT COMES IN AS, WHAT HIS GIRL'S DOING. IT'S THE CLERK ONE MAKING THE SAME MONEY. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SHEET AND SEE. OKAY. OKAY. LET'S SEE. HOLD ON. SO A CUSTODIAN MAKES 42 9 60 42. NINE 60. OKAY. WHAT? 42? 9 60 42. NINE 60 IS WHAT A, UH, CUSTODIAN MAKES. I THOUGHT SHE SAID THAT WAS TOTAL OFF OVER THERE. 66 OVER THERE. USED ALL THE BENEFITS. OH, OKAY. BUT HE WAS PUTTING IT HIGHER THAN CUSTODIAN. MM-HMM . IT IS HIGHER THAN THE, THE CUSTODIAN. SHOULDN'T I PARK ONE? SOMEBODY DOING THAT. THEN THE JOB DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR ANY BETTER THAN THAT. YEAH, HE REALLY NEEDS THAT. I, I DON'T KNOW MY OPINION, I THINK WHEN I MOVE IT TO, TO THE 42, 9 60, IF WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE 42, 9 60 IF A CUSTODIAN'S DOING IT NOW AT THAT PAY. SO THE IMPACT ON THAT, IT WOULD BRING IT DOWN ABOUT $3,000 ALL IN. OKAY. ADJUST HIS BASE PAY. UH, THE BASE PAY. THE BASE PAY WASN'T, WASN'T SUBJECT TO UH, TWO OR 3% COLA JUST RAISING ALL OF THEM UP. WOULD THEY BE AT THAT PRICE? IT'S UP CLOSE TO THE SIDE, HUH? NO, I MEAN WHATEVER THE COLA AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S WHATEVER. THE COLA THE COLA, WHATEVER THE I'D SAY WHATEVER THAT EDITORIAL RATE WAS FOR THE CUSTODIAN, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT OUGHT TO BE. YES. YES. OKAY. TO KEEP IN LINE. YES. MM-HMM . OKAY. I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHO'S DOING IT NOW. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND, AND HOW'S THE, HOW'S THE OTHER WORK GETTING BEING DONE? IT'S NOT YES. SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S SLIPPING. SOMETHING SLIPPING BECAUSE THAT, THAT POSITION IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT WOULD BE FULFILLING THE COURTHOUSE DUTY. THE NEW COURTHOUSE DUTY. THEY'RE READY FOR THAT. WE JUST MOVE THE BOTTLE SHOP OVER INTO THE COURTHOUSE. SO WHEN THEY'RE NOT CLEANING, THEY COULD BE IN THERE DOING THE BOTTLE WIRE WATER. WHY NOT ? OKAY. , UH, HIS SALARY ADJUSTMENT WAS, HE BASICALLY PROMISED THAT, HMM. ONLY HIS SALARY ADJUSTMENT WAS HE, HE BASICALLY WAS PROMISED THAT WASN'T HE TO BE MOVED UP? HE CAME IN AS A, HE CAME IN WAS HE WAS ON PROBATION, HAD THE TITLE, BUT HE STATED HIS PAY THAT HE WAS GETTING, I BELIEVE THAT WAS DISCUSSED WHEN HE CAME IN LAST TIME. LAST MM-HMM . WE WERE, AND WE [00:35:01] SAID OKAY THEN. ALRIGHT. AND THAT MAKES IT THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER DIRECTORS IN THE SAME DEPARTMENTS, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, FROM MONIQUE, CLERK ONE TO TWO. I'M ALL RIGHT WITH THAT. AND THEN IT, OKAY. SINCE WE HAD OUR LITTLE INCIDENT, THEY ARE WORKING THEMSELVES TO DEATH. TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING. UH, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE EVER GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THE CROOKS. WE PROBABLY NOT. I, I'M SORRY. I DON'T, I MEAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE EVER GOING TO DO THAT. THEY'RE SO SMART. I NO, THEY'RE BAD. WELL, THEY, THEY'VE GOT UNLIMITED TIME AND GUESS WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. THAT'S ALL THEY DO EVERY DAY, ALL DAY LONG. WELL, AND THEIR PAY IS REALLY GOOD. TRYING A BEAR PAYING JUNK. YES. IT'S GOOD. IT'S NOT GOOD. IT'S GREAT. I MEAN, WHY WOULDN'T EVEN WANNA BE ONE OF THEM? YOU JUST NEED TO LIVE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. SO HE CAN'T LIVE HERE. HE'S ASKED FOR TWO POSITIONS. ONE CYBERSECURITY ADMINISTRATOR, THEN ONE JUST FIELD TECH. WELL, I HATE SAYING I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH THAT. I'M MOVING ON FROM THAT. I'M NOT EVEN MENTIONING NOT HELPING THAT I, I DON'T WANT TO GO BAD EITHER, DO YOU? I KNOW THEY NEED IT 'CAUSE IT'S MM-HMM . WHEN I CALL 'EM UP, IT TAKES A WHILE SOMETIMES TO GET TO US. YEAH. OKAY. THEY NEED MORE HELP. ALRIGHT. NOW NONPROFITS, THEY CAME IN THIS YEAR AT A REQUEST OF $720,099. SO BEING THE POSITION WE IN THERE SOME, WE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO SUCH AS THE COUNTY MATCH FOR AGING. THAT'S ON A PERCENTAGE AND STAR TRANSIT. THOSE ARE REQUIRED. UH, THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WHEN KIDS COME IN WHEN THEY NEED CLOTHES OR WHATEVER. THAT'S SOMETHING. AND THE SENIOR CITIZENS, UH, FEEDING THE ELDERLY, THOSE ARE REALLY THE FOUR THINGS. I FEEL LIKE WE, WELL, TWO ARE REQUIRED. I THINK THE FOUR IS BENEFICIAL. NOW THE REST OF THEM, Y'ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE. MM-HMM . WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED. UH, WHAT'S YOUR FEELINGS? I SAY WHAT CONTRACT WAS CAR TRANSIT? YES. AND WHO ELSE? UH, THE AGING. OKAY. THAT, THAT COMES FROM COG. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IT'S BASED ON OUR POPULATION. ALRIGHT. YEAH. I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO THOSE. AND UH, WELL WE GOT, WE GOT THE BE HAPPY, THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER. THREE, FOUR LIBRARIES FOREVER. FAMILIES, CASA, REACH, UH, THE CENTER. DID I SAY REACH? REACH? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SENIOR CITIZENS. THAT, THAT'S, UH, MILL OLD PEOPLE. THAT'S MILLS WHEELS. YEAH. MILLS ON WHEELS. YEAH. NO, I AM ONE OF THE MORE PEOPLE. I CAN'T SAY , I'D LIKE TO HIT. I SAY THE AGENT, SENIORS, ELDERLY STAR TRANSIT FOR SURE. THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO. WELL I HAD FOUR, WHICH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU HAD? DOES THE FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION FALL INTO THAT GROUP AS WELL? NO, THEY'VE ALWAYS GIVEN HIM 20,000. MM-HMM . FOR THEIR TRAINING. BUT THEY'VE NEVER BEEN LISTED AS ONE OF THESE RECIPIENTS HERE. RIGHT. THAT I CAN EVER REMEMBER. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT, WHAT BUDGET THAT COMES OUT. JUST GENERAL FUND. IT'S GENERAL FUND. YEAH. IT'S UNDER OUTSIDE ENTITIES WITH CARELY AND UM, NECK COG AND THAT GROUP. OKAY. MM-HMM . UH, SHERIFF YOUR FARMING, DOES THAT 20,000 REALLY HELP WITH THEM OR NOT? OR WHAT? YEAH, IT HELPS THEM WITH THEIR, THEIR TRAINING STUFF. I KNOW THEY BOUGHT TRAINING TRAILERS, ALL THAT STUFF. FORCIBLE ENTRY, WHICH THEY ALSO HELP US WITH DOING THE BREACHING DOORS AND STUFF. [00:40:01] SO I THINK THEY'RE HELPING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG THING. IT'S HELPING, BUT IT'S HELPING ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY. OKAY. SO IT'S A COUNTY DEAL. IT'S HELPING DOING THE FIRE FIELD. AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE FIRE FIELD DOWN THERE, MAYBANK. 'CAUSE THEY INVEST IN THAT. RIGHT. I THINK THEY EVEN BRING IN SOME LEADERSHIP SPEAKERS AND STUFF FOR THE WHOLE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME TO. SO YOU THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT? OKAY. OKAY. OR WAS THAT ONE? THE FIREFIGHTERS COUNTYWIDE ASSOCIATION. OH. HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR TRAINING AND STUFF. WHAT IS, AND IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. OH, OKAY. IT'S DIFFERENT CATEGORY. OH, I, I, I'LL GOTCHA. GOTCHA. DID WE LEAVE ANYTHING OUT OR ANYONE OUT 15, MISS? NO. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD AND KAUFFMAN COUNTY SENIOR CITIZENS ELDERLY AID AND CARE. FLAT FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. NORTH TEXAS. TEXAS COUNCIL, GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S IT. OKAY. STAR, STAR TRANSIT. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I MAY HAVE TO A BIG LIST THERE ALL TIME. WHAT YOU GOT? I'M, I'M JUST THINKING WE MAY JUST HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE DID ORIGINALLY. ON LEAST ON THOSE, OR AT LEAST THOSE THREE. YEAH. BUT IT SHOULD BE FOUR. YEAH. Y'ALL. OH YEAH. YEAH. WE CAN'T INCREASE ANYTHING. MM-HMM. AND THEY GOT 54 PEOPLE WAITING ON THE LIST FOR MEALS ON WHEELS. 54 PEOPLE WAITING ON THE FOOD. YEAH. SO I REMEMBER FIRST YEAR WE CAME IN, WE, WE HAD LIKE FOUR PEOPLE WAITING OR SOMETHING. REMEMBER WE SAID THAT'S STUPID. PUT 'EM ON THERE. YEAH. WE DITCHED IT FROM A HUNDRED TO 1 25. I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEED THAT NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO DO. YEAH. YEAH. WE NEED TO DO THAT. YEAH. I CAN'T, I CAN'T HELP FEED. SO SENIOR DECISIONS, YOU GOT SOME NEW FIGURES TO WORK ON. POSITIONS TO TAKE AWAY. AND SO WE'RE TAKING, SO WE'RE TAKING AWAY ONE POSITION AND THEN WE'RE ADJUSTING THE SALARY ON ONE. THOSE ARE THE CHANGES I HAVE. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ANOTHER POSITION. DON'T . YEAH. WE, WE TOOK UH, UH, TOOK ONE AWAY FROM EARLY. SHE'S GETTING, UH, TWO TOTAL INSTEAD OF THREE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALREADY COUNT. THAT'S IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, ON STEVE, NO CHANGE FACILITIES. PAY BACK TO A CUSTODIAN PAY. CUSTODIAN PAY THEN WE'LL WITH THE OTHER NONPROFITS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. ALL GOOD. [4. Adjourn Meeting.] NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MAKE THAT MOTION. MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PHIPPS. HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. MR. PRO MAKES SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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