Aug 18, 2026 Commissioners Court

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I'D

[Call to Order]

IF YOU'D JOIN ME IN STATE, LET'S PRAY HEAVEN.

FATHER, LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.

LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS THAT YOU GIVE US EACH AND EVERY DAY.

LORD, WE ASK YOU FOR WISDOM TODAY AS WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE COUNTY.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY ABROAD, LORD, AND WE ASK FOR WISDOM AS ALWAYS.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, AND YOU, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS LIBERTY, THE INJUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE THE TEXAS STATE, ONE INDIVIDUAL.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYONE IN HAVE ANY ROUTINE CARS UPON THIS MORNING? DON MEETUPS? NOTHING GOING ON.

OKAY,

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE THREE ITEMS THERE.

DISCUSSED ACCEPT IONS, COURT DIRECTOR MINUTES MEETING FOR AUGUST THE 11TH OF THIS YEAR.

DISCUSS AND ACCEPT THE STAR TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORT FOR JULY OF 26TH, AND DISCUSS AND ACCEPT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE REPORT FOR APRIL 26TH THROUGH JUNE OF 26.

ANY COMMENTS? CORRECTIONS.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. LANE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. CROW MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, NUMBER THREE,

[3. Donl Green with NCTCOG: Discuss/Present services provided by NCTCOG.]

SHE'S GONNA PRESENT SERVICES PROVIDED BY THOSE FOLKS.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU, JUDGE ALLEN AND COMMISSIONERS FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.

UH, I HAD HOPED TO BE WITH YOU DURING THE, UH, BUDGET HEARING, BUT I WAS SCHEDULED FOR SURGERY, SO, UM, I AM MUCH, UH, LESS ACHY AND HEALTHIER .

THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT IS GOOD.

UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN, UH, PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.

AND DO Y'ALL KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO SYNC THE PRESENTATION TO THE, UH, I THINK I CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

UH, LET ME GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING HERE.

AND MY PURPOSE IN BEING HERE TODAY IS TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S AGING PROGRAM, UH, FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS TO THANK THE COUNTY FOR ITS LONGTIME SUPPORT OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND, UM, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS IN PROVIDING MATCHING FUNDS.

SO I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE UTILIZED AND THEN TO, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT US IF, IF YOU ARE A CONSTITUENT FRIEND, FAMILY MEMBER IS LOOKING FOR A SERVICE, UH, TO SUPPORT AN OLDER ADULT OR A FAMILY CAREGIVER.

OKAY.

LOOKS LIKE I'M QUEUED UP AND READY TO GO.

EXCELLENT.

SO, I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT TWO MAJOR PROGRAMS, UM, IN MY BRIEF PRESENTATION.

UH, THE FIRST MAJOR PROGRAM IS OUR AREA AGENCY ON AGING.

SECOND PROGRAM IS OUR AGING AND DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER.

UM, SO, UM, AGAIN, THE LARGER PROGRAM IS THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS AREA AGENCY ON AGING, OR AS I SOMETIMES, UH, REFER TO MYSELF, THE OTHER AAA.

AND, UM, MOST OF OUR FUNDING IS FEDERAL IN NATURE.

IT COMES THROUGH THE US, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION FOR COMMUNITY LIVING.

IT'S PASSED THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION.

IT'S REQUIRED TO CONTRIBUTE SOME MATCHING FUNDS AND THEN, UM, THE FUNDS FLOW THROUGH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

WE PROVIDE SOME SERVICES DIRECTLY.

OTHER, UM, FUNDS WE PASS THROUGH TO LOCAL SUBRECIPIENTS CONTRACTORS.

UH, WE ALSO APPLY FOR, UH, VARIOUS GRANTS.

UM, AGAIN, VERY GRATEFUL TO KAUFMAN AND THE OTHER 13 COUNTIES IN OUR SERVICE AREA FOR PROVIDING MATCHING FUNDS.

UH, THE FUNDING REQUEST FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS $19,218.

IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO, I CAN EXPLAIN HOW WE COME UP WITH THAT FUNKY NUMBER.

AND THOSE FUNDS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UM, THEY DO SUPPORT THE PROVISION OF BOTH THE DIRECT AND PASS THROUGH SERVICES THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY FOR THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AGING PROGRAMS, AT THE MOST BASIC LEVEL, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE OLD ENOUGH TO QUALIFY.

UM, SO WHEN I STARTED WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, I DIDN'T QUALIFY.

I'VE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

UM, SO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 60 YEARS OF AGE, UH, TO QUALIFY FOR MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME CAREGIVER PROGRAMS.

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SO THOSE ARE THE, UM, ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR OUR CAREGIVER SERVICES.

UNLIKE THE MEDICAID PROGRAM, ELIGIBILITY FOR OUR PROGRAMS IS ON THE BASIS OF AGE RATHER THAN, UM, INCOME AND RESOURCES.

SO OUR SERVICES ARE NOT MEANS TESTED.

IF SOMEBODY CALLS US AND, UM, YOU KNOW, NEEDS SOME SERVICES, WE'RE NOT GONNA TURN 'EM AWAY BECAUSE THEIR INCOME, HEAVEN FORBID, IS A DOLLAR OVER SOME ARBITRARY LIMIT.

BUT THE OLDER AMERICANS ACT, WHICH CREATED OUR PROGRAMS, REQUIRES THAT WE TARGET PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING GREATEST ECONOMIC NEED.

AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE WHO RECEIVE ONGOING SERVICES, FOR OUR AGENCY, ABOUT 40% ARE LIVING IN POVERTY COMPARED TO, UM, AN, UM, AN ELDER POVERTY RATE OF ABOUT SEVEN OR 8%.

UM, SIMILARLY, ABOUT 40% OF THOSE WHO RECEIVE ONGOING SERVICES LIVE ALONE, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN THE NORM.

UM, SO, UM, IN GENERAL, WE TARGET THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING GREATEST ECONOMIC NEED, UH, GREATEST SOCIAL NEED AND DISABILITY.

UM, ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, OR, UM, ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS, UM, MUST BE PROVIDED AT NO CHARGE TO THOSE WHO QUALIFY.

BUT WE AND OUR PARTNERS, UM, CAN ACCEPT VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS, ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS, AND ALL OF THOSE FUNDS GO RIGHT BACK TO THE SERVICES, UM, UNDER WHICH THE DONATIONS ARE MADE.

SO, UM, THE DIRECT SERVICES THAT WE OFFER INCLUDE INFORMATION AND REFERRAL.

WE HELP PEOPLE IDENTIFY FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL PROGRAMS THAT MEET THEIR NEEDS FOR NUTRITION, TRANSPORTATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A BENEFITS COUNSELING PROGRAM THAT HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MEDICARE, MEDICAID HELPS PEOPLE APPLY FOR MEDICARE SAVINGS PROGRAMS, LOW INCOME SUBSIDIES.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE SHORT TERM HELP IN THE HOME, AND THEY DO THINGS LIKE BUILD WHEELCHAIR RAMPS.

THEY WIDEN BATHROOM DOORWAYS, INSTALL GRAB BARS.

WE PAY FOR, UM, AGENCIES TO GO OUT AND PROVIDE TEMPORARY HELP WITH HOUSEKEEPING, MEAL PREPARATION CHORES, AS WELL AS PERSONAL CARE IF PEOPLE NEED, UM, SOME, UH, HANDS-ON CARE AS THEY'RE RECOVERING FROM AN ILLNESS OR AN INJURY.

UH, WE ALSO PAY FOR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE.

UH, WE CAN ALSO PAY FOR, UH, WINDOW AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, UH, WHICH, UM, COME IN HANDY ON DAYS LIKE TODAY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT 108.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO ADMINISTER THE LONG-TERM CARE OMBUDSMAN PROGRAM ADVOCATES FOR PEOPLE IN NURSING AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES.

WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE COUNSELING FOR THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING DEPRESSION.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT HELPS PEOPLE LEAVE NURSING FACILITIES AND RETURN TO COMMUNITY LIVING.

WE HELP THEM FIND HOUSING.

WE HELP THEM GET TRANSITION GRANTS.

AND THEN WE ALSO ADMINISTER THE VETERAN DIRECTED CARE PROGRAM FOR THOSE VETERANS WHO QUALIFY MEDICALLY FOR NURSING HOME CARE.

IT ALLOWS THEM TO RECEIVE CARE IN THEIR HOME FROM PROVIDERS OF THEIR CHOICE, INCLUDING FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE GOTTEN TWO COMPETITIVE FEDERAL GRANTS AND A STATE GRANT TO EXPAND OUR SUPPORTS WITH DEMENTIA.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A PASSION OF MINE.

UM, BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER, BOTH OF WHOM ARE, HAVE PASSED, UM, LIVED WITH DEMENTIA FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, MY DAD, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY EDUCATED MAN WHO, YOU KNOW, AS THE DISEASE PROGRESSED, HE WOULD EAT DISH WASHING PODS AND ACCUSE US OF FEEDING HIM POISON MINTS.

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I THOUGHT YOU LOVED ME.

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YES, DAD.

WE DO .

AND, UM, AND WHAT WE SEE AMONG THOSE WHO SUPPORT FAMILY MEMBERS WITH DEMENTIA, ABOUT 60% DEAL WITH DEPRESSION.

THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUELY HARD ABOUT DEMENTIA BECAUSE IT GOES ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND IT NOT ONLY CHANGES A PERSON'S, UH, PHYSICAL ABILITIES, BUT IT CHANGES PERSONALITY AND THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHO THE PERSON IS.

SO, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LIVE WITH, UM, THEIR FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S LIVING WITH DEMENTIA, THAT CAN BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

SO THROUGH ALL OF THESE GRANTS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, SYSTEMATICALLY COMPILE RESOURCES.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FREE PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE LIVING WITH DEMENTIA FAMILY MEMBERS.

WE HAVE A THREE DEDICATED DEMENTIA RESOURCE SPECIALISTS WHO CAN PROBLEM SOLVE AROUND WHATEVER THE ISSUE

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YOU KNOW, HE WAS A GUN ENTHUSIAST, AND HIS WIFE WOULD CHANGE THE SHEETS AND THERE'D BE A REVOLVER UNDER HIS PILLOW.

LOADED, POINTED RIGHT AT HER.

UM, AND HE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, HE'D LOOK IN THE MIRROR, HE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIMSELF, AND HE WAS CONVINCED THAT THERE WERE STRANGERS IN HIS HOUSE WHO ARE, WHO'S THAT OLD MAN IN MY HOUSE? DAD, THAT'S YOU, .

SO OVER TIME, WE LEARNED, YOU KNOW, TAKE DOWN THE MIRRORS.

UM, SO, UM, WE ALSO, UH, DO A LOT OF EDUCATION, BOTH ONE-ON-ONE AND IN GROUPS.

AND WE'RE ALSO DOING A LOT OF, UH, EDUCATION FOR FIRST RESPONDERS SO THAT THEY CAN MORE EFFECTIVELY IDENTIFY IF SOMEBODY WHO'S WANDERING, MAYBE LIVING WITH DEMENTIA.

AND THE RESPONSE VARIES A LITTLE BIT, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH A SUBSTANCE MISUSE ISSUE OR MENTAL ILLNESS OR DEMENTIA.

ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE DISTINCT.

UM, SOME STRATEGIES ARE A LITTLE SIMILAR, BUT, UM, THROUGH OUR TRAINING FOR, UM, POLICE CADETS AND, AND LICENSED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, TIPS AND, AND RESOURCES.

SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE DIRECT SERVICES, UH, WE ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT SENIOR CONNECT.

UH, DURING, UM, THE MOST RECENT CLOSED, UH, BUDGET YEAR 2025, WE PASSED THROUGH A LITTLE UNDER $700,000 TO SENIOR CONNECT.

AND, UM, THAT FUNDING SUPPORTED 707, UH, KAUFFMAN COUNTY CLIENTS OF ITS MEAL PROGRAMS. UM, AND, UM, THAT INCLUDED 467 PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED SENIOR CENTERS AND RECEIVED CONGREGATE MEALS.

UM, LITTLE OVER, UH, 55,000 CONGREGATE MEALS, 240 WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE HOME DELIVERED MEAL PROGRAM AND RECEIVED, UM, A LITTLE OVER 35,000 MEALS.

AND THEN, UM, THROUGH STAR TRANSIT, UM, THEY ALSO, UM, THEY ALSO SERVED 823 OLDER KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO RECEIVED 113,601 WAY TRIPS.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR FUNDING AMOUNT OF ONLY 52,000 IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT 113,000 TRIPS, WE'RE NOT CLAIMING CREDIT FOR THOSE.

WE JUST PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT OF SEED MONEY, UM, AND STAR TRANSIT WAS ABLE TO LEVERAGE THOSE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

SO HERE'S THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR OUR AREA AGENCY ON AGING, OUR AGING AND DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER.

MUCH SMALLER PROGRAM.

I'M ONLY GONNA TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES, BUT THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE PROVIDE INFORMATION AND REFERRAL.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT HELPS PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING READY TO LEAVE HOSPITALS, REHAB FACILITIES, UM, AND NURSING FACILITIES, HELP THEM CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES.

AND THEN WE HAVE A VERY SMALL RESPITE PROGRAM THAT, UM, GIVES FAMILY CAREGIVERS A BREAK, UM, IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY PRIVATELY FOR CARE.

SO THAT PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO CARE FOR OLDER ADULTS, CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, YOUNG ADULTS WITH ALL TYPES OF DISABILITIES, PHYSICAL, MENTAL, UM, INTELLECTUAL, DEVELOPMENTAL, UM, AND HERE'S THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR OUR AGING AND DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER.

UM, I DID SHARE WITH YOU AN IMPACT STATEMENT, UM, JUST SUMMARIZING THE MAJOR PROGRAMS AND THE NUMBER OF PERSONS SERVED, THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF SERVICE DURING FISCAL YEAR 2025.

BUT AGAIN, UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED AND JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND, AND EAGER TO, UH, HELP WHEN WE CAN.

SO, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS.

I'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.

I, I DO HAVE A, A, A A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE MEALS ON WHEELS.

I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST MM-HMM .

BECAUSE, LIKE, OF, OF FUNDING.

IS THERE A WAY WE CAN INCREASE THE FUNDING WE GET FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION? OR HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT? IF IT'S POSSIBLE? WHAT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT'S THE STEP TO TAKE? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND, UM, KAUFMAN COUNTY IS NOT UNIQUE IN HAVING WAIT LISTS.

UM, ODDLY ENOUGH, THE, THE BEST TIME IN MY HISTORY WITH THE ORGANIZATION, AND I'M COMING UP ON MY 30TH ANNIVERSARY IN A FEW WEEKS, WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SO WE WERE FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE, UM, OF AN INFUSION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, AND OVER HALF OF THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS WENT TO SUPPORT THE MEAL PROGRAM.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THE PANDEMIC ENDED, ALL OF THOSE FUNDS ENDED AS WELL.

AND SO WE'RE BACK TO JUST BASE OLDER AMERICANS ACT FUNDS.

SO, UM, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION FROM FISCAL

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THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY SAW THE REDUCTION OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO REALLY THE BEST WAY TO GROW THE POT WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE ALLOCATION FOR THE OLDER AMERICANS ACT.

AND, UM, WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT FUNDING WILL BE FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, BUT I THINK THE BEST WILL DO IS FLAT FUNDING.

SO A LOT OF PROGRAMS ARE BEING CUT.

I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT CUTS, BUT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE INCREASE IN THE POPULATION OF NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, AND YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE INCREASING COST OF SERVICES FLAT IS, IS NO VICTORY.

SO THIS YEAR I GOT REALLY CREATIVE.

WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR OUR DIRECT SERVICES THAT, THAT, UM, I DID NOT EXPECT TO, TO SPEND.

I WENT TO OUR STATE UNIT AND MADE A PROPOSAL AND I SAID, THIS MAY BE BRILLIANT, THIS MAY BE ILLEGAL.

YOU TELL ME WHICH IT IS.

AND, UM, AFTER A FEW MONTHS, THEY SAID, YEAH, THAT'LL FLY.

SO, UH, FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2026, WHICH WILL END SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE TO OUR SUBRECIPIENTS WHO HAVE EXCEEDED THE TERMS OF THEIR PERFORMANCE BASED AGREEMENTS.

UM, MOST OF OUR SUB-RECIPIENTS HAVE, NOW, THAT'S NOT THE SOLUTION BECAUSE SENIOR CONNECT SPAN IN DENTON COUNTY, OTHER SUB-RECIPIENTS, THEY HAD TO SCALE BACK.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE RECEIVING THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

SO, UM, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, UM, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO RAMP UP DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, WE WILL HAVE THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS TO SUPPORT IT.

WE ALSO HAVE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE MEALS THAT ARE SERVED AT SENIOR CENTERS.

SO WE ACTUALLY GET A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY FOR THOSE, THOSE CONGREGATE MEALS THAN WE DO FOR HOME DELIVERED MEALS.

AND SENIOR CONNECT IS DONE EXCEPTIONALLY WELL IN GETTING PEOPLE TO THE SENIOR CENTERS.

SO I WISH I HAD A BETTER SOLUTION AGAIN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

THAT WILL BE ENDING SHORTLY.

WE WILL HAVE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE TIME ONLY.

UM, AND I THINK BEYOND THAT, WE NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR INCREASES IN FEDERAL FUNDING.

WE NEED TO, UM, I KNOW FOR, FOR ME AS A PROGRAM MANAGER, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WILL SUPPORT THE MISSION.

UM, OLDER AMERICANS ACT FUNDS WERE NEVER REALLY INTENDED TO BE THE SOLE SOURCE OF SUPPORT FOR THESE PROGRAMS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M MINDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD WORK RUNNING A MEALS ON WHEELS ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND GRANT MANAGEMENT AND FUNDRAISING AND VOLUNTEER AND, YOU KNOW, AGING ISSUES.

AND, YOU KNOW, FUNDRAISING CAN BE A FULL-TIME JOB ON ITS OWN.

UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S WHY THAT WAIT LIST WAS STARTED.

THAT'S, UM, A PARTIAL SOLUTION FOR THIS YEAR.

AND I THINK THE PATH FORWARD, UM, WOULD, WOULD INCLUDE ADVOCACY AND, AND LOOKING FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.

YES, YES.

IN THE ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.

UH, WE'LL ALL BE THERE SOMEDAY.

WE MIGHT NEED THESE SERVICES.

SO I, THERE I'M TO BE , THIS IS ME .

YES, YES.

OKAY.

NOTHING TO SAY.

I, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SITTING ON THE BOARD AT THE COG, AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT CALL YOU WITH QUESTIONS, JUST SEND THEM MY WAY AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO GET TO DON.

ALRIGHT.

AND SUPER GRATEFUL FOR PAM.

YEAH.

WE DO A LOT OF THAT THROUGH OUR RESOURCE CONNECTION.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, NUMBER

[4. Patrick Nganga with Daves Ranch Terrell, LP: Discuss/Consider/Approve a request that the Commissioners Court review the determination under Section 6.04 of the Kaufman County Subdivision and Land Development Regulations that the February 2023 Construction Release expired, the determination that the project must restart under the current subdivision regulations, and related determinations affecting the project's ability to proceed under its previously approved plans and applicable regulations.]

UH, PATRICK AND DAVE'S RANCH, TERRELL LP DISCUSSED, CONSIDER, UH, A REQUEST FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT REVIEW THE DETERMINATION UNDER SECTION 6.04 OF THE KAUF COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT THE FEBRUARY, 2023 CONSTRUCTION RELEASE EXPIRED.

THE DETERMINATION THAT THE PROJECT MUST RESTART UNDER THE CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND RELATED DETERMINATIONS AFFECTING THE PROJECT'S ABILITY TO PROCEED UNDER, UH, PREVIOUS APPROVED PLANS AND APPLICABLE REGULATIONS.

MORNING, YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE AND WHERE YOU LIVE.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS PATRICK NUNGA.

I LIVE AT 4 5 3 1 KIPLING AVENUE, SALINA, TEXAS 7 5 0 0 9.

OKAY.

I'M HERE FOR DAVE'S RANCH TERRA LP PROJECT, AS YOU MENTIONED.

OKAY.

IT'S, UH, LOCATED HERE IN TAROT, TEXAS, KAUFMAN

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OKAY.

9 3 4 7 COUNTY ROAD THREE 10.

YES.

SO, UM, OUR REQUEST IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE ARE ASKING COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO REVERSE OR MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, UH, REQUIRING A COMPLETE RESTART OF OUR PROJECT.

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT, AND WE ARE NOT ASKING THE COUNTY TO WAIVE ANY ENGINEERING STORM, WATER, FIRE MARSHAL, SEPTIC INSPECTION, OR ANY SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

THE CENTRAL ISSUE HERE IS, UH, SECTION 6.04 OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH PROVIDES CONSTRUCTION RELEASE REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR ONE YEAR OR FOR THE DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION, PROVIDED THE PROGRESS OR DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO BE DEMONSTRATED.

SO WE PERFORM PHYSICAL WORK, INCLUDING ROADWAY GRADING, GEO TEXTILE INSTALLATION, FLEX BASE PLACEMENT SURVEY, STAKING, EROSION CONTROLS, EXCAVATION AND DRAINAGE WORK.

AND I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED, UM, COPIES, PICTURES, EVIDENCE OF, UH, DOCUMENTS, UH, REFERRING TO THAT MATTER.

AND NOW THE COUNTY RECORDS SUPPORT THAT ACTIVITY.

UH, ON HERE WE HAVE, UH, SEPTEMBER, 2025.

UH, THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT OUT, UH, THAT WORK WAS STILL BEING PERFORMED, SENT OUT BY THE STORM WATER DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN ON APRIL 8TH, 2026, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITSELF DESCRIBED DAYS RANCH AS AN ONGOING PROJECT.

AND THAT WAS AN EMAIL SENT OUT BY, UM, DEPUTY CHIEF, UH, DEB MILLER.

AN ONGOING PROJECT WITH OUTSTANDING REQUIREMENTS IS DIFFERENT FROM AN ABANDONED PROJECT.

SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE, UH, A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING RECOGNIZED BY THE PICTURES, THE EVIDENCE SENT OUT, UH, THE COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY, UH, DEPARTMENTS, AND ALSO COMMUNICATION WITH THE UTILITIES, UH, COLLEGE MOUND, VEC, AND, UH, THE AT T FOR, UH, CABLING.

SO OUR REQUEST TODAY IS THAT, UM, SO WE ARE ASKING, UM, WE'RE NOT ASKING THE COUNTY TO LLOYD STANDARDS, WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, UH, AS, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, UH, THE, THE CURRENT RELEASE HAS BEEN AND, UH, UM, WE ARE MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

I KNOW WE ARE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, UH, BEEN LACKING ON SOME OF THE COMPLIANCE ISSUES.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, UM, UH, SWEEP, UH, WHICH WE HAVE PROVIDED NOW, AND WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED THAT.

AND, UH, UH, THEY RECEIVED THE PAYMENT.

UH, THEY'RE WAITING, UM, UH, THE DETERMINATION FROM THE COUNTY HERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE SWEEP IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS OR WE NEED TO GET IT, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

SO THIS JUNCTURE, I'M OPEN TO, UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE'LL, UH, ASK THE COMMISSIONER FOR ANY COMMENTS HE MIGHT WANNA MAKE.

MORNING, MONIQUE.

GOOD MORNING.

SO, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON DAVE'S RANCH.

IT STARTED, UH, UM, IT WAS STARTED IN THE LATE 2022 BY ANOTHER DEVELOPER.

UM, UH, BACHATA WAS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, UM, IN THE, THEY WERE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.

THEY WERE APPROVED, PRELIMINARY PLANS WERE APPROVED, PRE-CONSTRUCTION WAS APPROVED.

THEY WERE RELEASED TO START CONSTRUCTION.

UM, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY, UM, MR. AGA'S, UM, REPRESENTATIVE THAT HE WAS LOOKING TO PURCHASE THE DEVELOPMENT FROM BACHATA.

UM, AND SO WE HAD SCHEDULED, I SAID THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO START OVER AT THAT POINT, AND THEY REC WHY WOULD IT HAVE TO START OVER? WE'RE HOPING TO PURCHASE THE DEVELOPMENT PRE-APPROVED.

WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT.

WE SCHEDULED A TEAMS MEETING, UM, WITH THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, OR AT THAT TIME, CURRENT DEVELOPER AND MR. PATRICK, AND DISCUSSED HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD LOOK MOVING FORWARD.

UM, WE MADE AN ACCOMMODATION AT THAT TIME TO ALLOW HIM TO TAKE OVER FROM BACHATA AND CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON WHAT WAS APPROVED AND GET IT THROUGH THE, UH, FINAL STAGES.

UM, WE, MR. BACHATA SENT US A, HE AGREED TO THAT, HE SIGNED OFF ON THAT PROJECT AND THEN IT TRANSFERRED TO PATRICK OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.

YES, THERE HAS BEEN COMMUNICATION EMAILS BACK AND FORTH.

UM, WE REQUESTED SWIP SWIFT'S TAKEN A YEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S TAKEN, WE JUST GOT IT IN JUNE AFTER I'D ALREADY SAID THAT THIS NEEDED TO START OVER.

IT TOOK THAT LONG TO JUST GET A SLIP.

UM, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, UM, ASKING FOR DOCUMENTS.

UM, THE PROJECT HAS JUST BEEN VERY UNCOORDINATED AND THERE'S NO PROCESS HERE THAT I CAN SEE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS MOVED FORWARD.

I STATED THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES.

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THEY HAD REQUESTED A MEETING ON APRIL 27TH.

THE PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING ITEMIZED IN THAT MEETING WAS TO GO OVER SWIFT STUFF, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

FIRE ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT TO MEET, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.

UM, I MADE THE DETERMINATION AT THAT MEETING THAT THIS WOULD HAVE TO START OVER BECAUSE I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING THAT WAS SENT TO ME THAT THIS HAD MOVED FORWARD, THAT THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.

UM, WE DID HAVE, WHEN HE STATED THE COMMENT WITH DEB MILLER, WE HAD A COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE ON THAT ROAD THAT THERE WAS A GUY ON A TRACTOR DIGGING, DIGGING A HOLE, WHATEVER, AND SHE WAS GETTING WATER ON HER PROPERTY.

OUR STANDARD RESPONSE TO THAT PIA WAS THIS IS AN ONGOING AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH.

SO TAKING THAT WORD OUT OF CONTEXT IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT WAS OUT OF CONTEXT.

UM, IF I TAKE HIS WORDS ALONE IN THE CHRONOLOGICAL TRACKING SHEET, HE SAYS THEY'RE PAUSING.

HE SAYS THAT, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO AVOID THE CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF THERE WAS A WAY TO MOVE TO FINAL PLAT WITHOUT PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ANSWERED, NO, YOU HAVE TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.

SO IT HAS JUST BEEN A VERY, UM, UNORGANIZED UNCOORDINATED DEVELOPMENT.

I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT SO YOU CAN SEE THE SIZE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ME TO ALLOW HIM TO MOVE FORWARD WHEN I SEE NOTHING MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AT THAT TIME, HE HAD REQUESTED A MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER LANE.

UM, HE WENT AND MET WITH COMMISSIONER LANE.

I BRIEFED HIM AND GAVE HIM OUR TRACKING SHEET.

'CAUSE WE TRACK EVERYTHING THAT GOES THROUGH THE OFFICE.

UM, AND ALL THE EMAILS ARE USUALLY PUT INTO THE TRACKING SHEET, THE CORRESPONDENCE.

SO, UM, YOU DO HAVE THAT AND YOU SAW THE TRACKING SHEET AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, WE STILL DON'T HAVE YOUR DOCUMENTS.

WE STILL DON'T HAVE THIS.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

WE ARE, WE'RE GETTING OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE, BUT AT SOME POINT, I GOTTA MAKE THE CALL.

RIGHT.

AND I EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM AND I SAID, I'VE REACHED THE END OF MY ABILITY TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.

I SAID, YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, THAT YOU MAY PETITION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO, YOU KNOW, STATE YOUR CASE AND IF THEY APPROVE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN THEY DO.

BUT I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING IN MY REGS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MOVE FORWARD.

I REACHED OUT TO THE CONSULTING ENGINEER, EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY IS NOT FORWARD PROGRESSION.

SO, UM, WE ARE HERE NOW.

HE'S ASKING TO, UM, CONTINUE HIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I KNOW AFTER HIS MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER LANE, UM, COMMISSIONER LANE WENT OUT AND, UM, UH, DID SOME DRONE IMAGERY OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKED LIKE ON, UH, JULY NINE 17TH.

AND, UM, DEB, IF YOU'LL HOOK UP THE LAPTOP AND IF LAURA, YOU'LL CONNECT US TO THE TVS.

UM, WE'LL SHOW THAT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT, THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, CHAIR.

SURE.

THIS IS COMING OFF THE COUNTY ROAD THREE 14, THIS SECTION.

OKAY.

ARE WE GETTING, ARE WE GOING TO WHERE THE WORK IS? NOPE, THAT'S IT.

UH, THERE'S ANOTHER SPOT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

UH OH, .

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SO I DID, UM, THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR EXTENDING CONSTRUCTION, UM, IN CASE YOU RUN INTO ANY TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT ONE TIME FOR, UM, SNOWMAGEDDON AND COID.

RIGHT.

SUPPLIES COULDN'T BE BROUGHT IN.

UM, THERE'S A MECHANISM INSIDE OF OUR REGULATIONS ON HOW YOU WOULD APPLY FOR AN EXTENSION.

UM, UM, MR. PATRICK SAID THAT HE WAS, UH, NOT AWARE OF, HE NEEDED THE DATE IN ORDER TO KNOW WHEN TO FILE THE EXTENSION.

UM, IN, UH, HE HAD KNOWN THE DATE WAS SPRING OF 2025 IN HIS OWN WORDS, IN AN EMAIL, UM, WHICH I HAVE AND NO EXTENSION WAS FILED.

UM, I JUST, UH, I THEN HE ASKED ME AFTER I MADE THAT DECISION TO MEET HIM OUT AT THE PROPERTY.

WE WENT OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE STANDING, I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF, I DIDN'T SEE A STAGING YARD.

I MEAN, NORMAL CONSTRUCTION SITES HAVE STAGING YARDS AND YOUR CONSTRUCTION CREW EQUIPMENT IS THERE.

AND I, I JUST DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT.

AND I TOLD HIM, I JUST, I, I'M NOT SEEING WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.

UM, HE DID DISCUSS THAT FEASIBLY HIS PROJECT WOULD TAKE A HIT FINANCIALLY BECAUSE IF HE HAD TO START OVER, HE WOULD THEN HAVE TO MOVE TO THE CURRENT REGS BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION RELEASE WAS THE 19, 20, 21, THAT TIME PERIOD OF REGS.

AND WE ARE NOW IN 26 REGS.

SO IT DOES HAVE SOME CHANGES TO IT.

I DID, MY CREW WAS OUT THERE WITH ME.

I DID TELL HIM THAT IF YOU HAVE TO START OVER, THERE IS A VARIANCE PROCESS WITHIN OUR REGS THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR.

I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT.

IT GOES TO A COMMITTEE.

YOU'VE GOTTA SHOW A HARDSHIP AND IF THE COMMITTEE AGREES, THEN YOU COULD APPLY THOSE REGS.

BUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S THAT PROCESS.

I DID NOT HEAR BACK ON THAT.

AND ANY CORRESPONDENCE MY OFFICE DID AFTER THAT MEETING IS BECAUSE WE KEPT GETTING EMAILS BACK.

WE'RE NOT GONNA IGNORE AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA STOP, BUT WE'RE NOT IGNORING THOSE.

AND WE NEVER GOT A DECISION FROM MR. NA NAGA ON WHICH ROUTE HE WAS GOING.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ROUTE HE WAS GOING.

HE WENT, YOU KNOW, HE REACHED OUT TO YOU.

HE REACHED OUT TO, HE DID A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST.

WE GAVE HIM A PRINTER BOX FULL OF EMAILS AND DOCUMENTS.

I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.

I JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO LET HIM TO PROCE TO PROCEED.

AND HE CAN COME UP AND SPEAK UP.

BUT LEMME GIVE IT TO YOU.

GIVE THIS TO YOU.

I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY.

[00:35:08]

UM, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, HUNTER.

AND I THINK THE, THE QUESTION AT HAND HERE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENTS, A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE.

UM, BUT THE BIGGEST QUESTION HERE IS, UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE HAD IS CONSISTENCY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE, MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY.

AND FROM ALL THE THINGS THAT, UM, DIRECTOR HUNTER HAS MENTIONED, THE ORDINANCE THAT, UM, WE, WE WOULD'VE APPLIED HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED HERE.

BECAUSE I THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT A COUNTY OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN BE ABLE TO BE CONSISTENT FROM ONE DEVELOPER TO ANOTHER, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY EXCEPTION HERE.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE ORDINANCE TO BE FOLLOWED AS IT IS NOW, WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEBODY A CONSTRUCTION RELEASE AND THEY USE RESOURCES TO GO AHEAD AND START WORKING IN RELIANCE OF THAT CONSTRUCTION RELEASE, IT BEHOOVES THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION RELEASE STAYS ACTIVE AS 6.04 SAYS, AS LONG AS DEVELOPMENT, AS LONG AS PROGRESS IS BEING DEMONSTRATED.

NOW, HAS PROGRESS BEEN THERE? THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES, BECAUSE AGAIN, BY OBSERVANCE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNTY PEOPLE COULD, UH, COMING AND SEEING IT IN SEPTEMBER, UM, THE STORMWATER CAME BY AND THEY SAW THE PROJECT AND THEY SAY IT'S ONGOING.

THE SEPTEMBER WAS A, WE WENT OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE COMPLAINT, NOT BECAUSE OF A COORDINATED EFFORT ON YOUR END.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SEPTEMBER DATE WAS SEPTEMBER OF 2025.

YES.

YES.

SO STORMWATER WAS OUT THERE, NOT AT HIS REQUEST.

I JUST AS YOU GO, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I ANYTHING, OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S OKAY.

YES.

SO, UM, BUT I THINK, UH, IT, IT DOES SET THE RECORD.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING IS IT DOES SET THE RECORD THAT YES, THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT ONGOING, UH, AND ALSO, UH, THE REST OF THE COMMUNICATION GOING BACK AND FORTH.

SO, AND ALSO, UH, APRIL 8TH, WHEN, WHEN, UM, THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER COMPLAINT, THE ONE YOU MENTIONED FROM MY NEIGHBOR.

UM, WHAT WE GOT WAS ALSO, UM, A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAME BY AND, AND WE FOUND HEAVY MACHINERY THERE.

WE HAD DOZERS, WE HAD EXCAVATORS.

SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT I SENT TO YOU ALL, I, I WISH WE COULD HAVE FOUND A WAY TO, UH, SHOW THEM HERE AS WELL.

UH, THEY SHOW ALL THE, UH, UH, UH, WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

I DON'T KNOW, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WHETHER YOU, YOU GOT THAT, UH, INFORMATION.

UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, WE SENT OVER 10 PICTURES SHOWING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT THAT THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS, THERE HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

AND, AND ALSO THE, THE, THE VAST COMMUNICATION THAT HAS BEEN WITH THE COUNTY PROVES THAT IF, IF, IF THE, THE RELEASE HAD ENDED, IF THE SITUATION HAD ARRIVED, WHERE THE COUNTY FELT THAT THERE'S NO PROGRESS IN THIS PROJECT, THEY'VE HAD MULTIPLE CHANCES OF TELLING US, HEY, YOU, YOU NEED TO STOP.

YOU NEED TO STOP.

UH, AND YOU NEED TO HAVE A NEW, UH, UH, RESTART.

WE NEED TO HAVE NEW REGULATIONS APPLIED IN YOUR BEHALF.

BUT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION.

THAT KIND.

IN FACT, UM, WHAT, WHAT, UH, ENDED EVERYTHING.

THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING, UH, UH, APRIL 8TH, I KEEP SAYING AUGUST .

IS THAT EVEN, IT'S ACTUALLY APRIL 27TH.

APRIL, APRIL 8TH, WHEN THEY CAME TO THE, TO THE, TO STOP US APRIL 8TH, WHEN THEY CAME BY TO THE PROJECT, THERE WERE DOZERS.

THERE WERE EXCAVATORS, AND WE HAD A COMPACTOR.

PICTURES HAD SHOWN THAT.

DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? YES, YES, YES, YES.

SO I I, I'LL LET HER RESPOND TO THAT.

UH, BUT LEMME FINISH THIS THOUGHT.

BUT SHE HAD NO PERMITS PULLED OR ANYTHING AT THAT TIME.

YES, YES.

I DO AGREE.

THERE WERE NO PERMITS.

AND I THINK WHEN, WHEN THE REASON WHY WE WERE STOPPED, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, THE COUNTY WAS RIGHT TO STOP US THAT DAY.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE PERMITS.

SO THEY SAID, HEY, YOU NEED TO GET YOUR PERMITS.

AND WE STARTED ENGAGING TOWARDS GETTING THE PERMITS.

SO, UH, THE 4 27 MEETING THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WE WERE COMING IN TO DISCUSS PERMITS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN STOPPED ON APRIL 8TH, WE ARE TOLD, HEY PATRICK, YOU NEED TO GET PERMITS FOR YOUR PROJECT.

OKAY, FINE.

WE START WORKING TOWARDS GETTING PERMITS.

UM, WHICH IN, IN OUR, IN OUR CASE, WE THOUGHT WHEN THE PREVIOUS CONSTRUCTION RELEASE WAS ISSUED, THERE WERE PERMITS ALREADY GRANTED, IT WAS, IT WAS A PREVIOUS OWNER AND THAT WAS ON US.

WE SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT WE GOT THE PERMITS.

BUT WHAT, UH, UH, BOTTOM LINE IS FAILURE TO GET A PERMIT, HAVING A COMPLIANCE ISSUE DOES NOT MEAN THAT, UH, THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED AS IT IS.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE DECISION THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE BASED ON THE ORDINANCE.

AND AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE IS VERY CLEAR.

YOU HAVE TO SHOW, UH, I THINK IT SAYS, LET ME READ IT, THAT THE 6.4 PROVIDES THAT A CONSTRUCTION RELEASE REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR ONE YEAR, FORMANCE OR DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION, PROVIDED THAT PROGRESS OR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE DEMONSTRATED.

I THINK WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT.

UM, AND I THINK, UM, IT'S UP TO YOU OR TO DECIDE, BUT, BUT LET, UH, CARRIE, UH, UH, MAKE A, MAKE A A STATEMENT ON THAT.

THANK PATRICK.

THANK YOU.

UM, GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

SO THIS SITUATION, HE'S BRINGING UP THAT MULTIPLE COUNTS OF ACTIVITY IS BEING CONDUCTED ON THIS SITE.

SO IN SEPTEMBER, IF WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT POINT, WHEN I DID THAT SITE VISIT, IT WAS 'CAUSE OF REPORT.

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AND WE HAD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

'CAUSE THERE'S NO ACTIVE STATE PERMITS ONLINE.

THERE IS NO 4 0 4 DELINEATION PERMITS THAT ACTIVE AT THAT TIME FOR THE DISRUPTION OF THE CREEK AND THE DISTURBANCE OF THE WATERS OF THE US.

AND THEN GOING BACK TO MORE CURRENT, SAME KIND OF SITUATION.

THE APRIL STOP WORK WAS BECAUSE IT WAS CONTINUED, ONCE AGAIN, ONE DOZER, ONE EXCAVATOR MAXIMUM DIGGING A POND.

UM, NO PERMITS, NO REVIEWS.

WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

AND PRIOR TO THAT ALSO IT WAS A FOLLOW-UP WITH FIRE MARSHAL, NO ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS.

SO IT WAS MORE OF THAT.

YOU STILL HAVE A GUY ON SITE WORKING.

IT'S NOT MASSIVE PRODUCTION.

IT'S NOT MASS GRADING.

IT'S NOT MULTIPLE EQUIPMENTS.

ANY QUESTIONS UP REAL QUICK? ABSOLUTELY.

JUST WIND IT UP, PLEASE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I WIND IT UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CARRIE.

AND I THINK, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT.

HAVE WE BEEN SLOW? YES.

I THINK I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO ADMIT WE'VE BEEN SLOWER THAN WE WANTED TO.

BUT THE QUESTION AT HAND IS SO THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY, RIGHT? HOW THEY HANDLE ONE, UH, DEVELOPER SHOULD BE THE SAME WAY THEY HANDLE ALL DEVELOPERS.

AND THE RECORD, UH, THE ORDINANCE STATES, UH, DEMONSTRATED DEVELOPMENT OR PROGRESS.

NOW IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE, OKAY, HAS HE DEMONSTRATED, UH, PROGRESS OR CONTINUED, UH, DEVELOPMENT? AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ISSUE.

IT HAS BEEN SLOW.

WE'VE HAD EQUIPMENT, UH, HERE BACK AND FORTH.

BUT I THINK BY THE OLD ADMISSION, BY THE EMAILS THEY SENT, BY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE TODAY, THEY FOUND US DEVELOPING.

THEY FOUND EQUIPMENT ON THE GROUND.

THEY FOUND PEOPLE WORKING.

YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT MEETS, UH, WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, SIR? NO, I'M, I'M SORRY.

BUT WE HAVE MET THAT TO ME, THE SURFACE HAS BEEN OVER BACKWARDS TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT.

THIS HAS DRUG OUT.

YOU SEE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE? I'M SORRY, BUT IN MY OPINION, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY YOUR REQUEST BASED ON, BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT ORDINANCE ARE YOU USING? WHAT, WHAT AN ORDINANCE.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY SAID EVERYTHING.

YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING? BUT WE'VE, YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEO FOOTAGE.

UH, THERE'S REALLY NO ACTIVITY GOING ON.

IT HASN'T BEEN GOING ON.

STUFF THAT WE'VE SEEN WE HAD HAS HAPPENED IS FROM THE FIRST DEVELOPER THAT ACTUALLY CAME IN.

IF I'M CORRECT, SOME OF THE PICTURES, THEY WEREN'T TIMESTAMPED, BUT SOME OF THE PICTURES LOOKED FROM ONE ADA.

YES, THEY DO HAVE TIMESTAMPS.

YEAH, THEY HAVE TIMESTAMPS ON THE PICTURES.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE TIMESTAMPS ON THE PICTURES.

UM, THE, THE ONE WE SENT YOU GAVE US YOU ITEMIZED.

I'M SORRY.

NO, LEMME JUST SAY REAL QUICK, THE TIMESTAMP, THE PICTURES WE SENT LAST TWO.

I MAY, I MADE MY, I MADE MY RE MOTION.

WE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I'LL SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LANE.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOORE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION.

CARRIE.

THANK YOU PATRICK.

THANKS.

NUMBER FIVE

[5. Mark Gutherie/Trenis Ramsey: Discuss/Consider/Approve FY 2027 contracts for detention and contract providers.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE FY 2027 CONTRACTS FOR DETENTION AND CONTRACT PROVIDERS.

MORNING.

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, THIS OUR YEARLY CONTRACTS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR FOR ALL THE DETENTION CENTERS THAT WE CONTRACT WITH AND ALL OUR CONTRACT PROVIDERS THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE TO RENEW THEIR CONTRACT.

SO THE CONTRACTS IS GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THEY AGREED EVERYTHING IS FINE.

SO WE'RE ASKING COMMISSION'S COURT TO PROVE THE CONTRACT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE THESE DETENTION CENTERS AND CONTRACT PROVIDERS.

Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW OF COURSE, MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE A MEETING, UH, EVERY QUARTER.

YES, SIR.

WITH, WITH THEM AND THE DISTRICT JUDGES AND, UH, THE COUNTY JUDGES AND MYSELF AND EVERYONE FROM HIS DEPARTMENT WITH OUR FULL REPORT OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND IT'S AMAZING ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND REPORTS, JUST THINGS YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH.

IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

THANK YOU.

BUT NEVER ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE STATE OR ANYONE ELSE.

SO THAT'S, NO SIR.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO I MAKE THE MOTION WE APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND WE MR. PHELPS MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION.

THANK YOU TRINI.

MS. LORENA,

[6. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve final renewal of BID 24-12 Roadside Mowing.]

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

SO THIS IS A, THE FINAL RENEWAL.

UM, THE VENDOR HAS AGREED TO RENEW WITH NO PRICE INCREASE.

SO THE TERMS AND PRICING WOULD STAY THE SAME.

I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RENEWAL.

ANY COMMENTS

[00:45:01]

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER LAMB MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU MR. SARNO.

ONCE

[7. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve the rejection of all proposals, received for RFP 2026-001 Annual Contract HVAC Services County Buildings, RFP 2026-007 Annual Contract Plumblng Services, and RFP 2026-008 Annual Contract HVAC Services Justice Center/Justice Center Annex/Courthouse and authorize re-solicit of the HVAC project only.]

THE ANNUAL CONTRACT, HVAC SERVICES COUNTY BUILDINGS RFP 20 26 0 0 7, ANNUAL CONTRACT PLUMBING SERVICES AND RFP 20 26 0 0 8 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR HVAC SERVICES, JUSTICE CENTER, ANNEX COURTHOUSE, AND AUTHORIZED RES SOLICIT.

HVAC PROJECT ONLY.

YES MA'AM.

I KNOW THAT WAS PRETTY LONG.

.

YEAH, IT WAS.

SO I'M RECOMMENDING REJECTION OF ALL PROPOSALS.

UM, THIS IS BASED ON THE AVAILABLE BUDGET.

IT EXCEEDS ALL OUR PROPOSALS, EXCEEDED THE BUDGET, EVERY SINGLE ONE.

AND SO, UM, WE ARE WANTING TO RES SOLICIT AND THIS WOULD BE JUST FOR HVAC, NOT FOR PLUMBING.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE PLUMBING, BASED ON THE CURRENT SPEND, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE NEED TO RES SOLICIT THE PLUMBING.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE ALL THE PRODUCE CAME IN WERE EXTREMELY YES.

WAY OVER WHAT WE EVER COULD HAVE MADE TO.

AND YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT GIVES YOU A ION OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING AND WHAT THE PROPOSED, UH, BID CAME IN AT.

SO, ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? NO.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO REJECT.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

I HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. PHELPS MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES NUMBER

[8. Lorena Diaz: Discuss/Consider/Approve award of Bid 2026-009 Purchase of Water Tank Truck.]

ONCE AGAIN, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER AN APPROVED WARD BID OF 20 26 0 0 9 PURCHASE OF A WATER TANK TRUCK.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE RECEIVED FIVE, UH, BIDS.

KIRBY SMITH DID RANK IN FOURTH PLACE.

HOWEVER, THE AWARD CRITERIA IS BASED ON PRICE, AVAILABILITY, AND, UH, DELIVERY DATE.

I'M RECOMMENDING GOING FORWARD WITH KIRBY SMITH.

KIRBY SMITH DOES HAVE THE UNIT IN STOCK.

AND, UM, IT'S AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY.

WELL, WE KNOW WE CAN'T WAIT ON CONSTRUCTION, SO, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN PRICING HERE, SO, MM-HMM .

COMMENTS OR MAKE I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. CROW MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. PHELPS, MAKE THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

KAREN, YOU GONNA DO THAT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS

[9. District Attorney: Discuss/Consider/Approve accepting grant funds from the OJP FY 2026 Special Attorneys Program Opportunity Number: O-BJA-2026-172587 grant for the time period of June 1, 2026 through May 31, 2029.]