Mar 10, 2020 Commissioners Court

MY NAME IS DAVID BLACKABY.

I'M THE EMPLOYER SUPPORT GARDEN RESERVES STATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR TEXAS.

AND UH, I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU KNOW WILLIAM HERE, BUT WILLIAM IS ALSO, UH, NCO IN ONE OF THE TEXAS ARMY NATIONAL GUARD UNITS IN DECATUR, TEXAS.

AND THROUGH HIS MANY DEPLOYMENTS, UH, HE HAS BEEN TOTALLY SUPPORTED BY THE COUNTY AND HIS SUPERVISORS.

AND IN DOING SO, HE HAS ASKED US TO RECOGNIZE THREE OF HIS SUPERVISORS, UH, HERE WITH THE COUNTY.

SO I'M HERE TODAY TO VERY BRIEFLY MAKE THOSE PRESENTATIONS.

THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE IN CONWAY IS NOT HERE TODAY.

SO FIRST OF ALL, WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH FOR, UH, IF MY, I YOUR HONOR ASKED HER, BARBARA STEPPED DOWN.

MR. BARBER.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS YOU KNOW, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT THE SUPPORT WE GIVE OUR, UH, SERVICE MEMBERS ARE RESERVED COMPONENT HERE IN TEXAS.

WE HAVE RESERVES IN THE ARMY AND AIR NATIONAL GUARD.

NOW, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED A LOT SINCE NINE 11, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND JUST EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES AND THE EMPLOYER DOES.

SO IN THIS CASE HAS TAKEN AN EXTRA STEP TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO HIM FOR THIS.

I GAVE YOU THIS AWARD FROM ESG OR THIS ACTUALLY COMES FOR US, UH, TO TERRY BARBER FOR ROY, YOUR SUPPORT AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR YOU.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, FROM WILLIAM'S EFFORTS, UH, AND MAMA'S NATION AND EVERYTHING, BUDDY, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN FOR THE SUPPORT HE HAS GIVEN WILLIAM IN THE UNIT AND THE OTHER MEMBERS WERE VERY, VERY POLITE, VERY GRATEFUL.

SO AGAIN, HERE IS A, AN AWARD FROM YOU.

AS I SAID, IT COMES FROM MY BOSS AND WHERE SHOULD IT BE? YOU SEE THE BUDDY'S STATEMENT IS KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREATENED? SO AND SIR,

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SO I WILL PROBABLY BE TRYING TO GET OVER TO TERRELL TO CATCH UP TO HIM.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE'LL YOU BET.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

UM, ALSO HAVE, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO DOWN TO THE FRONT, BUT I HAVE A, UH, CERTIFICATE HERE FROM THE COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS.

UH, RECOGNIZING THE COMPLETION OF A TRAINING BY, UH, COMMISSIONER KEN KATE'S COMMISSIONER.

WE DON'T NEED IT.

WE DON'T NEED TO PRINT OUT PICTURES THERE.

AND THE LAST ITEM OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THAT I HAVE THIS MORNING IS, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE CENSUS.

AND UH, WE'RE ALL, EVERYBODY IN PUBLIC LIFE AND PUBLIC POLICY IS CONCERNED THAT WE GET A FULL COUNT CENSUS.

UH, PAM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? WELL, YOU MAY START, YOU'LL GET A POSTCARD IN THE MAIL MARCH 12TH.

SO REAL SOON YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE THIS YEAR.

YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR PHONE.

ENCOURAGE YOUR AVERAGE TO BE THAT, THAT $675 MILLION, IT'S REALLY LOUD.

WHAT'S THE, UM, THE STAPLE.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COMPETENCE.

UH, IF NOT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, ANY MILLENNIALS HAVE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE?

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT.

WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DOES ANY ONE CARE TO TAKE THOSE OFF AND DISCUSS THEM OR PASS THEM AS ONE ITEM? IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

PASSENGERS ONE ITEM.

WE HAVE MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER TO PASS THEM AS ONE ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND? BARBARA? I'M SORRY.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

WE HAVE THE HONORABLE KEITH BELL COME FORWARD TO MAKE PRESENTED IN A RECOGNITION OF THE EXEMPLARY FIVE STAR AWARD RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, VALERIE HONORABLE RICHARDS AND COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT UP

[3. Representative Keith Bell/Laura Hughes; Present/Recognition of the Exemplary Five Star Award received by the Kaufman County Clerk's Office for their work in Vital Registration.]

IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.

UH, AND UH, TO UH, PROVIDE SOME AWARDS FROM OUR OFFICE TO, UH, YOUR CLIENT, THE CLERK'S DEPARTMENT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A COUNTY CLERK DOES, AND I HAVE SEVERAL ROLES, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HANDLE ALL YOUR PUBLIC RECORDS FROM ADOPTIONS TO BIRTH CERTIFICATES TO DEATH CERTIFICATES, MARRIAGE LICENSES, UH, DEEDS, LIVESTOCK BRANDS, UM, AS WELL AS A CLERK OF THE COUNTY COURTS AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO, UH, THEY DO, UH, PROVIDE A VITAL SERVICE FOR US.

AND, UH, AND FOR THE COUNTY, UH, IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT UH, YOUR, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE WAS EIGHT, ONE OF 18 OF 254, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICES IN THE STATE THAT GOT THE TEMPORARY FIVE STAR AWARD.

SO, UH, LET ME GIVE YOU A QUOTE FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES.

THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES STATES, THE FIVE STAR AWARD ACKNOWLEDGES VITAL STATISTICS PARTNERS WHO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF VITAL STATISTICS AND ITS IMPACT TO THE CITIZENS OF TEXAS.

THIS AWARD HONORS PARTNERS WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE DUTIES OF BIRTH AND DEATH REGISTRATION BY ATTENDING TRAINING AND KEEPING UP WITH THE LATEST LEGISLATION AND TRENDS.

FOR THE 14TH TIME, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES HAS AWARDED THE STAR AWARD TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THE EXEMPT PRAIRIE WARD SAYS, THANK YOU FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO REGISTER YOUR RECORDS AND ENSURE EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE SECURITY AND DATA QUALITY IN TEXAS.

ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS OF THIS AWARD IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE RECORDS HAVE TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN ONE DAY, UH, FOR THEM TO BE, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR THIS EXEMPLARY AWARD.

SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, UH, JUDGE RICHARDS, IT'S MY HONOR TO PRESENT, UH, TO YOUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, TO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO READ AND PRESENT THESE CERTIFICATES.

ABSOLUTELY.

GREAT.

I THINK, UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THE COUNTY CLERK AND IN HER DEPARTMENT THAT Y'ALL WANT TO COME FORWARD WHILE HE REACHES PRESENTATION.

DO YOU WANT YOUR STAFF HERE? SURE.

I'VE GOT THEM INDIVIDUALLY, SO IT'S AN HONOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BOBBY BARTLETT.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT HERE.

ENTIRE COURT.

JUST HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE AND WE'LL PLOP EVERYBODY AT ONE TIME.

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CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

UH, KYLIE DOSH CONGRATULATIONS.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS CENTER FOR HOLBROOK.

I GOT THESE AND JACQUELINE SALAZAR.

CONGRATULATIONS.

AND MS MARIBEL VASCO CLASS, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND A DARLA GROWN WALD.

NO, MR. COLEMAN.

WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE LADIES.

THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR NOW.

CAN I SUGGEST YOU WANT TO STAY TO PICTURE OR TELL US WHERE TO GO? AND THE REPRESENTATIVE WAS STANDING THERE IN THE MIDDLE AND I'M GETTING AROUND.

CLEARED OUT A BUNCH OF IT, DIDN'T IT? OKAY.

UH,

[5. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider re-appointing Robert Messer to the NET RMA Board of Directors for a two-year term ending February 1,2022.]

COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU'LL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA WAIT, I'M GONNA MOVE ITEM FIVE.

UP TO THE NEXT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ROBERT MISTER WITH US.

ROBERT IS, UH, REPRESENTS KAUFMAN COUNTY ON THE NORTHEAST TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND I THINK IT WASN'T LONG AFTER HE GOT ON THERE THAT HE, UH, UH, WAS ELECTED OR PUT IN THE POSITION OF BEING THE TREASURER.

AM I CORRECT? ARE YOU STILL THE TREASURER? SO ROBERT IS HERE.

IT'S TIME.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER REAPPOINTMENT OF OUR REPRESENTATIVE AND ROBERT'S HERE TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON AT NORTHEAST TEXAS.

RMA.

WHEN I START TALKING, I PROBABLY ALREADY TOLD YOU MORE THAN YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE NORTHEAST TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE REALLY ENJOYED BEING ASSOCIATED WITH AND I REALLY CONSIDER IT AN HONOR THAT YOU'VE ASKED ME TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY SINCE WE JOINED IN 2014 I PASSED OUT ARNOLD, 2018 ANNUAL REPORT.

IF I HAD COME IN ABOUT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, I BROUGHT 2019 BUT I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS APPROPRIATE.

I THINK I CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO.

WE JOINED IN 2014 SO WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT SIX YEARS AND I GUESS THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE UP TO CONSIDER RE-UPPING FOR ANOTHER TERM.

OUR COST TO THE COUNTY IS $2,000 A YEAR, IS WHAT WE PAY TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE RMA.

AND I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT WE'RE GETTING GOOD VALUE FROM THAT ASSOCIATION.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT JUST A FEW OF THE PAGES AND IF YOU GUYS GET TIRED OF LISTENING TO ME, YOU WILL BE MUCH LIKE THE COUNTY JUDGE HE HAS EVERY TIME I'M AROUND HIM.

EVENTUALLY HE'LL RAISE HIS HANDS.

I'VE HEARD ALL I WANT, BUT YOU NEED TO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT I DO.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START ON PAGE FIVE AND THEIR NUMBER DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGES AND YOU'LL SEE A MAP OF THE AREA THAT OUR REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY, UH, THE MEMBER COUNTIES, THERE'S 14 COUNTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RMA.

AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE THAT ARE THERE.

BASICALLY WHAT THE RMA DOES IS WE MOVE STUFF FOR A FEE.

SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MOVED AND A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, THEN WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN INCUR DEBT OR WE CAN RAISE MONEY IN OTHER WAYS AND THEN WE'LL USE THAT FEE TO REPAY THAT OVER TIME.

TYPICALLY WE THINK ABOUT TOLL ROADS AND BEING WITH THE TOLL ROAD, RIGHT? AND AS KIND OF LIKE BEING A CATHOLIC AT A BAPTIST SUNDAY SCHOOL PARTY.

IT'S NOT A REAL POPULAR THING DEBATE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT IS THESE DAYS.

BUT WE CAN MOVE CARS OR WE CAN MOVE ELECTRICITY OR WE CAN MOVE WATER, WE CAN MOVE RIGHT ON.

ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN MOVE

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AND ASSOCIATE WITH THE FEE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO AND YOU CAN SEE OUR COUNTIES THERE.

THE NEXT PAGE I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS PAGE SIX AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR PRIMARY PROJECT ROTTEN AS THE TOE 49 IN CIRCLES, TYLER, AND YOU CAN SEE WE STARTED THE LEFT HANDED LINDALE WITH OUR MOST RECENT ADDITION AND I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COLOR ON THAT.

TYPICALLY IN MY LIFE, ANYTHING THAT IS COLORED, BURNT ORANGE IS BAD OR NEGATIVE.

SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD MORE MORE LIKELY HAS POTHOLES ON IT.

AND IS IS CROOKED IN WINDY BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT MAROON IS THE COLOR THAT WE ASSOCIATE WITH ALL THINGS GREAT AND GOOD.

OUR TOW ROAD DOES RUN RIGHT NOW AROUND TO THE WHITE HOUSE, TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING AND CONSIDERING THE TIO PORTION AND I WAS IN THE EIGHTH GRADE BECAUSE BEFORE I KNEW WHAT TIA WAS, BUT THAT'S THE TAIL THERE THAT WOULD GO BACK UP TO AT 20 THE OTHER PART OF THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE OR CONCLUDE WHAT WE CALL THE EAST TEXAS.

OUR GLASS NORTH OF ACT 20 IS SOMEWHAT ASPIRATIONAL WITH THE LONGTERM GOAL OR THE TOLL ROAD AROUND TYLER.

EVENTUALLY CONNECTING OVER TO AT 59 THAT WILL GO FROM HOUSTON TO TEXTURE CANADA.

THE NEXT PAGE I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS PAGE 16 IN ADDITION TO OPERATING THE TOLL ROAD, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN OUR MEMBER COUNTIES AND SO FAR OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE ALLOCATED $2 MILLION CHAR COUNTIES HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING AWARD OR $77,000 THAT KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS BEEN AWARDED FROM THE NORTHEAST TEXAS.

REASONABLE ABILITY AUTHORITY.

WE HAVEN'T FUNDED IT YET BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVEN'T COMPLETED THE WORK.

BUT AS SOON AS YOU DO THAT, IN FACT, COMMISSIONER HUNT MACK AND I HAVE A PICTURE OF ME AND YOU STANDING THERE WITH THE SHAKE PRESENTATION.

SO IN MY OFFICE, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO GET A COFFEE FOR YOUR OFFICE, I'LL DO THAT.

I NEED YOU TO COME BY AND AUTOGRAPH MINE.

BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RETURN $2 MILLION, UH, TO OUR MEMBER COUNTIES.

PAGE 22 IS I AS A ROUGH ATLANTA, THE FINANCIALS THAT I HAVE, THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, IF YOU GUYS HAD LIKED ME TOO, I CAN SPEND THE NEXT 45 MINUTES GOING THROUGH THOSE, UH, JUDGE RICHARDS OR WOULD YOU WANT ME JUST TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A GOOD FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCE AND WE HAVE ABOUT A $3 MILLION POSITIVE CASH FLOW FROM THE TOLL ROAD AROUND TYLER.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SUFFICIENT.

IS THAT OKAY? AND I GUESS AS A FOREST GUMP WOULD SAY, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE STAY ASSOCIATED.

I THINK SOMEBODY WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO ABLE TO DEVELOP PROJECTS THAT HAVE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM THAT WE CAN CHARGE FOR.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, ASSOCIATING WITH THESE 14 COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST TEXAS WILL PROVE ADVANTAGEOUS.

SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO STAY HOOKED, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

QUESTIONS FOR MR MESSER.

OKAY, THEN, UH, YEAH, I WOULD LOOK, BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO REAPPOINT ROBERT MISCHER TO THE NORTHEAST TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY BOARD.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND SEGMENT.

SO NEXT UP WE HAVE A DAVID MENDEZ, UH, AND UM, THIS IS, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE LEGAL REALM WITH BOND LANGUAGE AND STUFF.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR, WE APPRECIATE YOU.

UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, I'M IN CONVERSATION WITH, UH, ROBERT, UH, FAIRLY OFTEN ABOUT OTHER BUSINESS AND, UH, HE SPENDS A LOT OF TIME, UH, HE DONATES A LOT OF TIME TO THE COUNTY A LOT OF TIMES, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UM,

[4. David Mendez; Consideration and possible action concerning and order authorizing the issuance of Kaufman County, Texas general obligation refunding bonds, taxable Series 2020; levying a continuing direct annual Ad Valorem Tax for the payment of the bonds; prescribing the form, terms, and conditions, and resolving other matters incident and related to the issuance, sale, and delivery of the bonds, including the approval and distribution of an official statement pertaining thereto and authorizing the authorized representative to approve the amount, the interest rate, and terms thereof and certain other procedures and provisions related thereto.]

SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MAKE IT, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A COMMENT THAT'S GOING TO READ ALL THIS LANGUAGE.

UH, IT IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION CONCERNING IN ORDER AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS TAXABLE SERIES 2020 LEVYING A CONTINUING DIRECT ANNUAL AD VALOREM TAX FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE BONDS, PRESCRIBING THE FORM TERMS CONDITION AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUE IN SALE AND DELIVERY OF THE BONDS INCLUDING THE APPROVAL AND DISTRIBUTION OF AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT PERTAINING THERE TOO AND AUTHORIZING THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE TO APPROVE THE AMOUNT, THE INTEREST RATE IN TERMS THEREOF IN CERTAIN OTHER PROCEDURES IN PROVISIONS RELATED THERE TOO.

UH, WE WELCOME DAVID MENDEZ HERE AND WE ALSO HAVE GEORGE BOULEVARD BACK IN THE BACK.

I DON'T KNOW IF GEORGE IS GOING TO NEED TO SPEAK TO US, BUT DAVID, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

UH, SO,

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UH, COMMISSIONER HAN ASKED ME, UH, AS I WALKED IN IT, IF, IF THERE'S A SHORT VERSION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, CHAPTER TOTAL OF SEVEN OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS YOU GUYS TO REFINANCE BONDS THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY ISSUED UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

AND, UH, AND SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY IS TO ALLOW THE COURT TO CONSIDER, UM, POSSIBLY ACT ON AUTHORIZING THE JUDGE AND AUDITOR, UH, SHOULD, UH, TIMING, UH, OF THE MARKETS ALLOW FOR THE, UH, FOR THEM TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF, UH, REFUNDING BONDS TO REFINANCE.

BASICALLY A 2014 OBLIGATION THAT YOU ALL PREVIOUSLY ISSUED.

IT WAS ISSUED AT CERTAIN SET, UH, INTEREST RATES THAT YOU ALL NEGOTIATED AT THAT TIME.

AND SO A TOTAL OF SEVEN ALLOWS FOR, UH, FOR THE COURT IF YOU ALL APPROVE IT, UH, TO GIVE THEM SIX MONTHS, A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS TO EXAMINE THE MARKET.

AND IF, UH, MARKET CONDITIONS ARE GOOD TO, UH, SELL REFUNDING BONDS, WHICH WOULD PAY OFF THOSE OLD BONDS, UH, AND, UH, AND, UH, THE NEW BONDS WOULD THEN BE ISSUED AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE.

SO YOU'D BE DOING THIS FOR INTEREST RATE SAVINGS.

AND, UM, THEN, UH, UH, THE, THERE ARE TWO, UH, IMPORTANT ISSUES ABOUT THESE, THOSE 2014 BONDS AREN'T CALLABLE THE PRESENT DAY.

SO WE'RE, WE WOULD BE DOING WHAT IS CALLED AN ADVANCED REFUNDING.

IT'D BE, UH, SELLING BONDS TODAY, PUTTING THAT MONEY IN A SAFE, IN AN ACCOUNT, AN ESCROW ACCOUNT WITH PROPERLY SECURED, UH, PROPER COLLATERAL SO THAT ON THE DAY THOSE ARE CALLABLE, THEY, THAT, THAT, UH, DEBT WILL BE EXTINGUISHED.

THE LAW ALLOWS OR SAYS THAT IF, ONCE YOU PUT THAT MONEY IN ESCROW, IF YOU DO SELL, SO THESE KIND OF REFINANCING BONDS, YOU PUT THAT MONEY IN ESCROW, IT EXTINGUISHES THAT OLD DEBT SO YOU DON'T HAVE, THAT WON'T BE ON YOUR BOOKS ANYMORE.

FEDERAL LAW ON TAXES CHANGED TWO YEARS AGO.

AND SO IT USED TO BE THAT THE COUNTY COULD ISSUE TAX EXEMPT BONDS TO REFINANCE THE TAX EXAM DEBT.

UH, THE CONGRESS, UH, UH, SAW FIT TO ELIMINATE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, PROVISION, UH, IN 2018 AT THE END OF 2018.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO ADVANCE REFUND THESE BONDS, WE WOULD NEED TO ISSUE TAXABLE DEBT.

SO THE BOND INTEREST THAT WE WOULD PAY A BOND HOLDER FOR THE NEW BONDS SHOULD YOU SELL THEM, WILL BE TAXABLE TO THE BOND HOLDER.

SO HE'S GONNA WANT DIFFERENT CONVENTIONS OR SHE'LL WANT DIFFERENT CONDITIONS ON HER BONDS.

BUT, UH, GEORGE IS HERE TO DESCRIBE MARKET CONDITIONS, WHICH HE THINKS MAY SUGGEST THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL TAXABLE REFUNDING BONDS THAT NONETHELESS WOULD PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH SOME SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS, UM, ON, ON THOSE OLD ISSUES.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO HIM AND THEN IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDER OF, BECAUSE I HAD TO ADDRESS THEM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

OF THE, UH, BACK IN 2012.

THANKS JEFF RICHARDSON.

MEMBER MEMBERS OF THE COURT, UH, GOOD TO BE BACK.

UH, WASN'T PLANNING TO BE BACK, UH, AS, UH, TELL JUDGE RICHARDS THIS WAS A UNANTICIPATED, UH, UH, HOPEFULLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY.

WE WERE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO SELLING THE NEW MONEY ROAD AND FACILITIES BONDS.

AND AS I INDICATED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU LITERALLY WERE SELLING IT A HISTORIC LOW INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT.

SINCE THEN, RIGHTS HAVE CONTINUED TO DECLINE.

AND RIGHT AFTER THAT WE STARTED RE-EVALUATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, CITIES, COUNTIES, OTHER CLIENTS TO POTENTIALLY, UH, REFINANCE SOME OF THEIR DEBT.

THIS WOULD NOT BE INCURRING ANY NEW DEBT.

UH, AS SUCH, IT'D BE REPLACING AN ALWAY'S.

UH, I MIGHT GET OR TRY TO, UH, EXPLAIN IT ANALOGOUS TO REFINANCE IN YOUR HOME MORTGAGE.

UH, IT'S JUST A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE BOND DEBT, OUTSTANDING INTEREST RATES ARE LOWER AND THEREFORE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFINANCE AND LOWER THE PAYMENT SIGNIFICANTLY.

UH, AS DAVID INDICATED, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS BOOK VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE I'M AN AGGIE TOO, AND JUDGE RICHARDS MIGHT TELL ME TO KEEP IT SHORT, LIKE, UH, THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN, UH, DID, BUT, UH, BEHIND TAB, UH, A, UH, YOU'LL SEE IT MENTIONS A PARAMETER BOND SALE.

AND AS IT INDICATES, THIS IS THE VERY SAME PROCEDURE THAT WAS USED WHEN WE DID A REFINANCING

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UH, AND AS DAVID INDICATED, UH, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE YOU'LL GO AHEAD, SINCE THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING AND ACT, UH, ON AN ORDER AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE TODAY, BUT YOU'LL DELEGATE THE PRICING APPROVAL TO THE JUDGE AND THE AUDIT ARE SUBJECT TO ESTABLISH PARAMETERS AND THE MOST IMPORTANT IS A MINIMUM ACCEPTABLE SAVINGS LEVEL.

AND I'LL GO INTO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT AS TO WHAT WE RECOMMEND WITH REGARD TO THAT.

UH, THE PAGES KIND OF REVIEW WHAT I JUST SAID AND THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THIS, UH, PARAMETER AND DELEGATED AUTHORIZATION IS FLEXIBILITY.

AS WE INDICATED WHEN WE DID THE NEW MONEY, COUNTIES CAN ONLY AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF DEBT AT REGULARLY ESTABLISHED MEETINGS.

AND SO THE DELEGATION ENABLES YOU TO ACCESS THE MARKET, UH, IN A TIMELY AND AN OPPORTUN, UH, MANNER.

UH, AND SO ON.

AS IT STANDS SINCE WE MET WITH THE WRITING, AGENCIES ARE DISCUSSED FOR THE NEW MONEY.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM.

THEY SAID WE DON'T NEED NEW CALLS, JUST TELL US AND GIVE US A COPY OF THEIR OFFERING DOCUMENT, THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, THEY CAN TURN THE WRITING AROUND.

SO, GIVEN THAT AND VISITING WITH DAVID AND UNDERWRITERS, COUNSEL AND SO ON, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE COULD BE IN A POSITION THAT WEEK AFTER NEXT.

THE PRICING COULD ACTUALLY OCCUR BEFORE, UH, MAYBE SITUATION, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO CHANGE THE OTHER WAY.

UH, AS IT STANDS YESTERDAY, YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STOCK MARKET AND, AND, AND, UH, TREASURY MARKET AND SO ON.

THERE'S SO MUCH UNKNOWN AND UNCERTAINTY, UH, OUT THERE.

RATES ARE LOW.

IT'S JUST YOU, YOU MAY A POINT WHERE BUYERS KIND OF BACK AWAY, UH, THAT HAPPENED IN OH EIGHT DURING THE CRISIS AND SO ON.

AND SO WE'RE WANTING TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, EVEN THOUGH RIGHTS ARE LOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO REINVEST.

AND WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WITH OFFERING THIS ON PAGE FOUR, AS DAVID INDICATED IN 2017 TAX ACT, THEY PROHIBITED WHAT WE CALL TAX EXEMPT ADVANCE REFUNDINGS.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, DOING A REFINANCING MORE THAN 90 DAYS BEFORE THE CALL, DATE OF THE BONDS THAT YOU'RE REFUNDING.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE CALL DATE ON THESE ARE NOT UNTIL 20, 23.

YOU CAN STILL DO, UH, ADVANCED REFUNDINGS AT TAXABLE INTEREST RATES.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE'VE DONE, UH, QUITE A NUMBER OF THEM, BUT, BUT IN PARTICULAR OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, UH, TAXABLE RATES HAVE DROPPED IN THE SPREAD.

THE TAX EXEMPTS HAVE GOT SO NARROW THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS CASE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BEHIND TAB B IS REALLY THE GUTS OR THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY.

ON PAGE SIX, THE FIRST PAGE BEHIND TAB B, THIS IS THE 2014 ISSUE.

UH, YOU'LL SEE AT SECOND LINE IT SAYS CALLABLE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT, 27 MILLION, 770,000.

THAT'S THE AMOUNT OR THE BONDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A BEING REFINANCING DOWN BELOW THAT IT LISTS SOME, IT'S THE 2024 THROUGH 2034 MATURITIES.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE INTEREST RATE BY MATURITY BY AND LARGE IS 5%.

THERE'S A FOUR AND A 4.13.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS LOWER THE OVERALL, RIGHT.

THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE SEVEN, IS WHAT I'D SENT OUT TO JUDGE RICHARDS SAYING, HERE'S THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY.

AND THAT KIND OF REPRESENTS WHERE THE MARKET IS OR WHERE IT WAS SEVERAL DAYS AGO.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, 200, UH, 15,000, ROUGHLY PER YEAR.

POTENTIAL SAVINGS IS WHAT WE IDENTIFIED TOTALLING 3 MILLION OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM AND READ THAT PRESENT VALUE NUMBER WHERE IT SAYS PERCENTAGE SAVINGS OF REFUNDED BONDS.

THAT'S THE NUMBER RIGHT ABOVE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, UH, CASHFLOW CONVERTED TO A PRESENT VALUE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THAT 27.7 7000009.05%, WHICH IS GOOD.

GETTING UP CLOSE TO 10.

UH, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS ON THE NEXT PAGE, UH, USED TO, WHEN I GOT STARTED IN THIS BUSINESS, THIS WAS THE, UH, PRIMARY, UH, UH, KIND OF LEVEL THAT YOU SAW AS ACCEPTABLE ADVANCE REFUNDING SAVINGS.

THAT'S A 5% PRESENT VALUE LEVEL, UH, AS HIGHER INTEREST RATE BONDS WENT AWAY, UH, UNDERWRITERS AND OTHERS WOULD, WOULD PROMOTE THREE OR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.

IN YOUR CASE, I THINK FIVE IS AN APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM SAVINGS PARAMETER.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT WOULD STILL GENERATE AROUND 120, 125,000 A YEAR, UH, TOTALING 1,000,007.

UH, AND, AND YOU'LL SEE,

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UH, ROUNDED DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

THAT'S THE 5% LEVEL.

UH, JUST TO SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT THAT MAY MEAN VERSUS WHERE WE SENT OUT TO THE MARKET.

THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE NINE IS A SENSITIVITY CHART.

AND IF YOU'LL LOOK UP AT THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS RECOMMENDED PV, UH, THAT'S WHERE THAT 5% LEVEL WOULD FALL.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IS FROM WHERE WE SAID CURRENT RATES WERE, UH, IF RIGHT, THEY'D HAVE TO GO UP, UH, SOMEWHERE OVER 40 BASIS POINTS OR ABOUT 45, UH, UH, ONE HUNDREDS OF A PERCENT FOR TENTS A LITTLE OVER THAT, UH, TO BUST OR NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT MINIMUM.

SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? SO HOLD AND WHAT WE SENT OUT AS REPRESENTING CURRENT MARGIN WILL BE ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED.

BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO.

UH, UH, AND BEHIND TAB C IS A BUNCH OF, UH, MARKET INFORMATION.

AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SHOWS IS WE'VE BEEN DECLINING AND GOING TOWARD AN ALL TIME LOW RATES AND JUST SINCE FRIDAY, UH, OF COURSE RATES PLUMMETED.

UH, EVEN THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER LATE LAST WEEK.

SO, UH, IT DOESN'T EVEN SHOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS OR SO.

BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD THAT ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AND THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT, IF YOU APPROVE THE ORDER, WE'LL UH, MOVE RIGHT FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO WRAP THIS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UH, WHAT'S THE FASTEST TIMEFRAME THAT WE COULD GET THIS DONE? THAT'S IT.

TWO WEEKS.

YES SIR.

UH, CAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO THE WRITING AGENCIES, WE NEED TO GET THAT PRELIMINARY OFFERING, UH, STATEMENT, UH, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET IN THEIR HANDS NEXT WEEK.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TURN IT AROUND IN A DAY.

THEY SAID, UH, WE CAN TURN AROUND BY THE 23RD.

AND SO I'VE TALKED TO THE UNDERWRITERS AND THEY SAID, UH, WE'RE NOT INTO ANTICIPATING AT ALL ANY WRITING CHAINS.

SO WE'LL ACTUALLY PUT THE OFFERING DOCUMENT OUT ON THE STREET SHOWING PENDING RATINGS THE WEEK BEFORE NEXT WEEK.

SO THAT LIKE NICK THE 24TH, FIFTH OR SIXTH, RIGHT AFTER THAT 23RD, IF THEY'LL RELEASE, THAT'S WHEN WE'D BE HOPING TO PRICE AND WRAP IT UP.

THAT WAS GOOD.

UH, WELL ONE THING ABOUT IT IS IT CAN'T GET MUCH LOWER.

IF THE ORDER MEETS WITH Y'ALLS TO APPROVALS TODAY CAN BE ADOPTED BY A MOTION, UH, AND SECOND ON MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE QUARTER PRESENT.

UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO READ THE ENTIRE, UM, UH, CAPTION INTO THE RECORD.

IT'S, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY UNLIMITED TAX REFUNDING BONDS TAX TAXABLE SERIES 2020 AS PROVIDED BY BOND COUNSEL AND AS DISCUSSED WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, UM, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I'M LOOKING AT DEB.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, WITHOUT REPEATING THE WORDING THAT MR. MENDEZ JUST USED.

THAT IS MY MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND ON WHALE? SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

THEY'RE KIND OF SETTING THIS UP, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE WATER PLAN THROUGH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD A FEW YEARS BACK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

I'LL HAVE THE IS TOO LONG.

GEORGE, JUDGE, I'LL GET WITH YOU AFTER COURT.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT.

[6. Judge Richards; Discuss the Texas Flood Infrastructure Fund.]

SIX.

UM, MAKE SURE I HAVEN'T SKIPPED ANYTHING.

UH, ITEM SIX IS, UH, JUST, IT HAS MY NAME ON IT.

IT'S DISCUSSED TEXAS FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, BUT LUCKILY WE HAVE, UH, SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF FREESE AND NICHOLS WHO, UH, I'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND, UM, RON SULLIVAN, OUR ENGINEERS HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO I TOLD, UH, CHRIS PETITE ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY THAT THERE WASN'T ANY WAY THAT I FELT CONFIDENT EXPLAINING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I BET THAT YOU, ONE OF YOU GUYS CAN DO IT.

THEY'RE ARGUING OVER WHO'S GOT TO GET UP HERE.

NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY FORREST GUMP QUOTE.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE ALSO JIM KEITH WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS.

SO HE'S ONE OF OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERS THAT, UH, THAT KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.

SO I'LL KIND OF TEE IT UP, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE COURT.

BUT WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE HAD, UM, LEGISLATION IN THE LAST SESSION ALONG WITH, UH, FUNDING THROUGH THE LEGISLATION FOR A STATEWIDE FLOOD PLAN.

AND SO WITH THOSE FUNDS COMING THROUGH,

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AND SO IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S A GRASSROOTS KIND OF GROW IT FROM THE BOTTOM UP PROGRAM.

AND A LOT OF THIS COMES AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY AND SOME OF THE OTHER FLOODING DISASTERS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST DECADE IN TEXAS.

UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A CALL FOR PROJECTS AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT SPLIT INTO REGIONS, WHICH COFFIN COUNTIES AND OBVIOUSLY A NORTHEAST REGION UP HERE, KIND OF LIKE THE WATER PLAN.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ENTITIES THAT ARE GONNA WANT PROJECTS FUNDED.

THEY WANT THOSE PROJECTS KIND OF TO PERCOLATE UP SO THAT THEY HAVE A PACKAGE OF THOSE BEFORE THEY START SELECTING WHICH PROJECTS ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS FUNDING FROM THE, UH, FROM THE LEGISLATURE.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE IMPETUS OF WHERE THIS ALL STARTED.

AND THEN I'LL HAVE, IT'S REAL, I'LL TELL YOU IT'S, IT'S UH, IT'S HAPPENED REAL FAST AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THEIR WAY OUT AS THEY GO.

UM, KIND OF BUILD IT ON THE FLY, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME DEADLINES THAT ARE BEING HIT IT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S LOOKING FOR FUNDING.

AND SO THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES HERE THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU ALL WANT TO BE A PART PART OF THIS, WE KIND OF NEED TO GET OUR PLANNING IN PLACE AND GET AHEAD OF IT.

AND SO I'LL LET JIM KIND OF GIVE SOME MORE SPECIFICS AND THEN IF WE'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE HAPPY TO FILL THOSE.

KNOW THAT IT'S, WE NEED THIS AND IT'S GREAT FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE IN THE COUNTY IS NOT REALLY DOCUMENTED AND IT'S VERY HARD TO CONTROL OR, UM, AND HELP OUR CITIZENS GET SOME FUN INSURANCE RATES CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISCOUNTS FOR THEM AT THIS MOMENT.

CHRIS.

AS CHRIS NOTED, THIS KIND OF A DEVELOPING PROCESS, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS ACTUALLY HAVING A BOARD MEETING, I BELIEVE THIS THURSDAY, THE 12TH, UM, WHERE WE EXPECT THEM TO MAYBE FINALIZE THESE RULES.

THERE'S BEEN SOME DRAFT GUIDANCE THAT HAVE GONE OUT ABOUT THIS FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.

UM, SO THERE'S CERTAIN DETAILS ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR.

ONCE THE BOARD FINALIZES THOSE RULES, UH, THEN EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS.

BUT THE BEST UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A KIND OF A PHASED APPROACH.

WE HAVE THIS PRE-APPLICATION PERIOD WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF GET SORT OF A CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF WHAT YOUR PROJECT IS, UH, HOW IT ADDRESSES FLOOD RISK IN THE COUNTY.

UM, WHAT IT SEEKS TO SERVE AND THE PURPOSE OF IT AND HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE USED AND PUT THAT FORWARD TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THEY'RE GOING TO SCREEN ALL OF THESE THAT COME IN.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE APPROVED TO THAT FIRST PHASE, THEN YOU WOULD DEVELOP A MORE DETAILED APPLICATION FOR THE FUNDING.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED TO THE COUNTY IS, IS A PHASED EFFORT THAT ALIGNS WITH THAT KIND OF VERY SIMPLE UPFRONT ASSISTANCE TO THE COUNTY TO CRAFT THIS PRE-APPLICATION THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF THE CURRENT FLOOD RISKS IN THE COUNTY.

KIND OF A VERY HIGH LEVEL.

UM, WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MAINLY ISSUES WITH ROAD FLOODING.

UH, SO IT KIND OF TIES INTO A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AS WELL AS YOUR FLOOD RISK.

GET THAT TOGETHER, SUBMIT THAT TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE PHASES AFTER THAT.

IF IT LOOKS LIKE THEY GET THE GREEN LIGHT TO DO IN A MORE DEEP DETAILED APPLICATION, WE CAN ASSIST THE COUNTY WITH THAT.

THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT, THE BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS A COUNTY WIDE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN.

SO THAT WOULD LOOK AT A DETAILED PICTURE OF THE FLOOD RISK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, UH, HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE CITIZENS, HOW IT'S IMPACTING, YOU KNOW, ROADWAYS, UH, ROAD CROSSINGS.

UH, IT WOULD ALSO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING ON NOW WITH THE COMMON VISION PROGRAM WITH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, FEMA IS UPDATING THE FLOOD RISK INFORMATION FOR THE EAST FORT 20 RIVER, SO THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT AS PART OF THE STUDY.

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY KIND OF OVERLAP.

IT ACTUALLY BE A BENEFIT FOR THE OVERALL STUDY.

SO, UH, THERE WAS, UH, I ASKED RON AND MONIQUE TO GET THEIR WHEELS SPIN AND I DIDN'T PREP THEM FOR THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO ADD, IF THEY, IF THEY WANT TO ADD ANY COMMENT TO THIS.

AND CERTAINLY MONIQUE HAS BEEN REALLY INVOLVED IN THE COMMON VISION THING THAT WE, UH, JOINED AT THE COG.

UM, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A SET AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE, THAT'S GOING TO BE SET ASIDE IN THIS FUND? I'VE NOT HEARD A DOLLAR FIGURE.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S BOUNCED AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

THEY'VE GOT SOME IDEAS IN TERMS OF OVERALL FUNDING.

THEY, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER THAT THEY'VE SET ASIDE, UH, THROUGH THE PROPOSITION SEVEN AND EIGHT THAT WERE PASSED KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF LAST YEAR, ESTABLISH THIS FUND, MOVE SOME FUNDING FROM THE TEXAS RAINY DAY FUND THAT CAN BE USED HERE.

I, I, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MONEY THERE WAS A BIG NUMBER.

YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY BIG NUMBER, A BIG NUMBER, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

THIS FIFTH WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, BUT THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, SOME ANALYSIS, UH, AND PLANNING STUDIES, WHICH THIS WOULD BE THEN DRIVES DOWN TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS.

MMM.

MONICA, RHONDA, Y'ALL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR, I JUST

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SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

RON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT THIS IS REALLY A FIRST STEP, UH, THAT WE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN A FAIRLY REASONABLE FEE.

UM, I WANTED TO SAY SCALE FOR THIS FIRST PHASE IS EIGHT OR 9,000, I THINK WAS THE SCALE.

AND THEN IF IT GOES TO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SO IN THE FIRST W SO WE ADVANCED THAT EIGHT OR 9,000 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT THAT GETS THE INITIAL HIGH, HIGH LEVEL AT PRE-APPLICATION AND THEN THEY MAKE, THEN THEY PICK, IF YOU, IF THEY PICK WHETHER OR NOT YOUR APPLICATION MOVES ON TO THE NEXT STEP, BETTER VISIBILITY ON WHAT OUR CHANCES ARE OF THAT GOING FORWARD.

THEN THE NEXT, I FORGET WHAT THE NEXT PHASE WAS, BUT IT WAS, I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT BEFORE I CAME OUT.

I SHOULD HAVE, BUT I THINK IT WAS AROUND 14 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

$40,000.

AND THAT'S THE MORE IN DEPTH APPLICATION.

AND THEN AS YOU GET THROUGH THAT, THEN WE FINISH OUT THE REST OF THE NATURAL WATER STUDY FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THE POINT IS, IS THAT WITH EACH STEP, THE, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP.

UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THAT THERE WAS SOME MONEY IN THE 2013.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER THAT WAS, WE DECIDED THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE, WE COULD USE THAT MONEY OR NOT FOR THIS EIGHT OR $9,000 INITIAL IN THE MONTH SINCE IT WAS ROAD LINKED.

WERE YOU PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, KAREN? OKAY.

UM, WELL IF WE, IF WE, UH, SO IF WE, IF WE DECIDED TO DO THIS INITIAL APPLICATION, WE'D HAVE TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR IT.

SO RIGHT.

AND IN EACH STAMP THAT, THAT, THAT WE GO INTO THE PROCESS FEE GETS HIGHER, RIGHT? THE RETURN IS ASTRONOMICAL.

I'M GOING TO BE MAKING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEM BECAUSE, AND THERE'S CERTAIN CATEGORIES AND I KNOW THERE'S THRESHOLDS TO MEET ON, I KNOW THERE'S 51ST 50% A HUNDRED PERCENT.

SO AS WE GET DEEPER IN, IT WOULD BE, WE'D HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL LEVEL, IF I AS A COUNTY TO ACTUALLY GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT PROJECT.

BUT YEAH, THIS IS STATE MONEY THAT BASICALLY YOU'RE PUTTING AN INVESTMENT AT FRONT END TO HAVE A CHANCE OF GETTING A CHUNK OF STATE MONEY TO DO.

AND THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED SO THAT WE KNOW ALL OF OUR FLOOD STAGE AND FLOOD PLAINS.

CAUSE LIKE NOW, AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, YOU DON'T HAVE A NECESSARILY A FLOOD PLAIN EXCEPT IN CITIES AND INSTEAD OF GETTING OUT IN THE COUNTIES AND THEY NAME IT ON THE BOOKS AS A CREEK, NOT NECESSARILY A FLOODED STAINS.

I THINK THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS THAT THIS UPFRONT EFFORT, THE SMALL EFFORT REALLY IS WHETHER YOU GET THE GRANT FUNDING OR NOT, IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY.

WE'LL DO ENOUGH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LEG WORK HERE TO GET A PICTURE OF THE RISKS, KIND OF WHAT WE THINK ARE SOME PRIORITIES FOR THE COUNTY.

AND SO I THINK IT CAN BE USED BY THE COUNTY.

OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE, WE HOPE TO GET THE GRANT FUNDING, BUT UH, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE ANY KIND OF WASTED EFFORT FOR THE COUNTY.

AND ONE, ONE THING TO ALSO POINT OUT IS WE WANT THIS AND THE STATE SAID TO QUALIFY FOR THESE FUNDS, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE IF IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'D MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TYING IN WITH TERRELL FORNEY.

WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE SOME CITYWIDE, UH, PLANS THAT WE'D INCLUDE TYING INTO AS PART OF THE COUNTY ONE.

SO KIND OF COBBLING THIS ALL TOGETHER SO THAT THEY MAKE SURE WE MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS GOOD AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL.

HAVE THEY NAMED A DATE? I THINK IT WAS IN APRIL THAT THEY SAID THAT THAT SOMETIME IN APRIL THEY WERE GOING TO A CALL FOR PROJECT.

IT'S GOING TO BE OR 31 PROPOSALS OR I THINK IT CONTINUES TO SLIP.

I THINK RIGHT NOW THE, UH, THE DATE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE APRIL FOR THAT INITIAL CALL.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE Y'ALL TO DO THE FIRST PHASE APPLICATION? I THINK THE SCHEDULE IS PRETTY QUICK.

IT'S PRETTY QUICK MATTER OF WEEKS WHEN WE PUT THAT SCHEDULE TOGETHER, I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT 31 MARCH OF HAVING THIS PUT TOGETHER.

SO WE'RE READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND GET IT TURNED AROUND.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A QUICK TURNAROUND.

SO THE STATE I THINK IS GETTING FEEDBACK THAT HEY, WE MAY NEED TO MOVE THAT DATE, BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, WE'RE AIMING FOR THE 31ST.

SO COULD THAT BE FUNDED OUT OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE VERSUS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO DO THAT FIRST PHASE ANYWAY?

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YES.

UM, ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT BEEN A LITTLE HARDER? THE REASON I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BOND THAT MONEY IS PEST TO BE KIND OF EARMARKED, PAY OFF A COUPLE OF OTHER DEBTS AND WE DO THIS REFUNDING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WILL BE LEFT YET.

RIGHT, OKAY.

I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S FAIR TO MENTION AS WE GO INTO THE ADDITIONAL PHASES THAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO WRITE AN RFQ FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS WOULD BE THE CONTRACT FOR SIMPLY PHASE ONE.

I FIGURED THAT WOULD BE WORTH SAYING.

WE'RE NOT AT THAT.

THIS WOULD NOT REACH THAT LEVEL, THE FIRST PHASE OR THE FIRST APPLICATION.

UH, OKAY.

UH, Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THESE GUYS? OKAY.

WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UH, ALMOST PARTICULARLY IN THIS WITH SPRING RANGE, ALMOST A DAILY NOW MY OFFICE, AT LEAST IN PRECINCT FOUR GETS INQUIRIES AND, UH, STATEMENTS OF CONCERN FROM, FROM A LOT OF LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS RELATIVE TO GENERALIZE FLOODING ISSUES.

UH, I THINK AS THE, AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN PLACE AND THERE'S MORE CONCRETE PUT DOWN EVERYWHERE, THE WATER HAS CONTINUED TO BUILD UP.

AND, AND, UM, THERE'S THIS, UH, GENERALIZED CONCEPT THAT OUR COUNTY ROAD, UH, BAR DITCHES ACT AS SOME SORT OF, UH, AWKWARD DUCT SYSTEM TO, TO MOVE ALL THE WATER, UH, WHEREVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO, I GUESS, DOWN TO THE RESERVOIR.

BUT, UH, I MEAN IT'S, IT IS A REAL CONCERN FOR THE, FOR A LOT OF THE CITIZENS IN PRECINCT FOR JUST GENERALIZED FLOODING THAT, UH, FAR AND AWAY EXCEEDS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TIED TO THE ROADS.

SO I REALLY THINK IT'S, UH, UH, IT'S AS TIMELY AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE.

I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I, I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 65 YEARS IN THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST A PASSENGER.

IT NEVER FLOODED BEFORE NOW.

AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S WE'RE HAVING JUST EXCEPTIONAL RAINFALL.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

WE'RE FACING THE SAME PROBLEM.

I MEAN EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, MY PRECINCT WAS COTTON BALE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS COTTON FIELDS OR PLANT.

YEP.

AND IF IT RAINS A LOT, THERE IS NO PLACE REALLY MORE IN THE WATER TO GO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT AND WHEN IT DOES GO, I MIGHT BE GOING TO YOUR CASE DISTRICT, THE WHOLE COUNTY, WE ARE DEVELOPING MORE AND MORE ROOFTOPS AND WE ARE FACING SOME PROBLEMS. I DO HAVE WATER RUNNING ACROSS ROADS THAT WE ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE WATER RUNNING ACROSS THE FLOOR AND, AND IT IS PLANNING.

IF WE DON'T PLAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

SO.

NEXT ITEM, UH, DISCUSSING CONSIDER RESOLUTION FOR COUGHING COUNTY DAY PERTAINING TO PRESERVING THE COFFIN, COFFIN COUNTY'S ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH STATE LEGISLATORS.

SO, UH, THE, I GUESS THE ONLY THING IS WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ON THIS ITEM IS NOT A, IT IS A DISCUSSION BUT NOT CONSIDERATION.

THAT MAY MOVE AS AN OVERSIGHT.

SO, BUT I DON'T, WE DON'T, IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE COURT ACTION IT BECAUSE IT'D BE JUST PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ISSUE, BUT I HAVE THE SENSE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROCEED.

SO I THINK THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO REQUIRE, OKAY.

IT WILL.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

UH,

[7. Judge Richards; Discuss and consider a resolution for Kaufman County Day pertaining to preserving Kaufman County's ability to communicate with State Legislators.]

I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT QUEUED UP IN MY FOLDER HERE.

UM, COFFIN COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL LAST WEEK, UM, UH, YOU GUYS HAD THIS RESOLUTION SO I DON'T NEED TO READ IT UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO.

UM, AT COFFIN COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL LAST WEEK, UH, WE DISCUSSED THE SENATE BILL 29.

YOU REMEMBER THE SENATE BILL 29 FAILED IN THE LEGISLATURE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THE STORY ABOUT, UH, REPRESENTATIVE BALE AND I THINK 11 OTHER, UH, HOUSE MEMBERS WHO VOTED AGAINST SENATE BILL 29 AND THEY GOT, UH, LAMBASTED ON A SECRET RECORDING.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT STORY.

UM, IT'S REALLY CLEAR.

I THINK THAT, UH, THERE ARE, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A REALLY STRONG EFFORT TO BRING BACK A VERY SIMILAR BILL.

SENATE SENATE BILL 29 FOR MY PERSPECTIVE, BASICALLY SAYS IF TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, UH, THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE OR THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS, ANY OF THESE ASSOCIATIONS, IF THEY SPEND ANY MONEY TO BASICALLY GO AND TALK TO THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT OUR ISSUES, UH, WE CANNOT PARTICIPATE.

WE CAN'T PAY ANY MONEY INTO A LOBBYIST OR AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS GOING AND SPEAKING TO THE LEGISLATURE ON OUR BEHALF.

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SO I THINK MOST OF OUR CITIES AND SCHOOL BOARDS ARE PLANNING TO, UM, PASS A VERY SIMILAR RESOLUTION TO THIS.

AND WE WILL PRESENT THAT TO OUR, UH, OUR REPRESENTATIVE AND OUR SENATOR AT COFFIN COUNTY DAY ON IN, I GUESS MARCH THE 22ND.

SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A VOICE.

WE DO, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT, UH, WE, WE NEED MONEY AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T, KELLY CAN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT TACK.

WITH ALL THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.

AND TACK I GUESS WOULD JUST HAVE TO NOT, UH, THEY JUST WOULD HAVE TO NOT EVER TALK TO THE LEGISLATOR AND NONE OF US CAN GO AND TALK TO THE LEGISLATURE UNLESS WE DO IT.

ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN GO, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT ON, WE CAN'T COUNTY EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE TO BE ON VACATION OR SOMETHING.

SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO USE OUR COUNTY EMAIL TO EMAIL OUR LEGISLATURE.

YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE PERSONAL EMAIL.

SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I'LL READ THE HEADING A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT CONFERENCE, COUNTY, TEXAS OPPOSING PROPOSITION THREE APPEARING ON THE MARCH 3RD, 2020 STATEWIDE ELECTION SUGGESTING ELIMINATING LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO FUND EFFORTS TO AFFECT STATE LEGISLATION.

AND WOULD ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AND THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND OF COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION.

JUDGE, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I THINK IT IS, IT'S IMPERATIVE TO POINT OUT TO THE CITIZENS HOW CRITICAL THAT, THAT ABILITY REALLY IS BECAUSE, UH, UH, HUGE PORTIONS OF OUR TAX BURDEN ARE RELATED TO MANDATED PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE PUSHES DOWN TO THE COUNTY LEVEL WITHOUT ANY FUNDING.

UH, SO WE NEED THAT ABILITY, UH, ON THE LARGE SCALE TO BE ABLE TO, TO PUSH BACK TO A CERTAIN EXTENT TO BE ABLE TO ASSERT THAT, UH, THAT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS THESE CONCERNS RELATIVE TO, UH, GREAT IDEAS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE COMES UP WITH AND SENDS DOWN HERE FOR US TO IMPLEMENT WITH NO MONEY.

AND SO FOR THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, THE RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE, UH, INVEST IN THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND RELATED ORGANIZATIONS, UH, THE RETURN, THE GENUINE RETURN IN OUR BUDGET IS WELL WORTH IT, WELL WORTH IT FOR OUR CITIZENS.

THEY WERE SEVEN, EIGHT, 500 BILLS IN THE LEGISLATURE LAST SESSION.

AND OF COURSE, THERE'S NOT ANY WAY THAT A COUNTY OUR SIZE, WE HAVE ANYBODY CAPABLE, WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.

SO SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THAT ALSO.

I MEAN, MANY OF OUR OFFICIALS BELONG TO ASSOCIATIONS WHO SEND PEOPLE TO THE LEGISLATURE FAR MARSHALL TOO, I'M SURE.

SO WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER IN CASE THEY HAVE GREAT IDEAS THAT THE HAM AND THEN THEY MIGHT HAVE A REALLY GREAT IDEA, BUT IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR A VERY SMALL PART OF THE POPULATION.

EVERYBODY THAT INTRODUCES A BILL DOESN'T REALIZE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE STATE.

SO IT MIGHT BE GREAT FOR THEIR AREA AND THEY MIGHT HAVE A REALLY GREAT MEAL, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK FOR OUR AREA AND WE NEED A VOICE.

SO YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT'S, YEAH, ONE SIZE FITS ALL KIND OF A DEAL.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION.

UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE PO'S KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

[8. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider appointing Kathryn Sue Osinde to the Kaufman County Child Welfare Board.]

UM, NEXT UP, PAM.

QUARTER.

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPOINTING, UH, KATHERINE SUE CINDY TO THE COFFIN COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD.

UM, SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE CENSUS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT AND WE'RE CHALLENGED SO WE'VE GOT TO WIN.

UM, SO I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER APPOINTING KATIE.

WE CALL HER KATIE.

OH, CINDY TO THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD.

MISO.

CINDY IS A RESIDENT OF TERRELL.

SHE'S A SOCIAL WORKER.

SHE'S A PAST FALSE, UH, FOSTER PARENT AND HAS ADOPTED THROUGH CPS.

SO SHE REALLY HAS THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND SHE'S A GREAT PERSON.

SHE HAS IN HER HUSBAND IS TWO, SO HE'S A DENTIST THERE IN TERRELL.

QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT UH, KATHERINE CEO SANDY TO THE COPLAND COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD? UM, WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

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NEXT ITEM.

[9. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider applying for funding for training equipment for the Sheriffs Department.]

THE EUROPE STILL PAM, UH OH WELL IT SAYS PAM QUARTER DISCUSS, CONSIDERED APPLYING FOR FUNDING FOR TRAINING EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN THE MORNING.

IT WAS A HAND OFF JUDGE.

YEP.

YOU GOT IT.

I GOT IT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS APPLYING TO THE COG WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

HOW THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WHILE WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS IT'S A VALUE OF ABOUT 72,000 OR 70 2006, 29 22.

UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A MOBILE MARTIN SHIP TRAINING SIMULATOR FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT'S ALSO HELPED US ON GROUPING PLUS SIMULATIONS PLUS RECOGNIZING THOSE SHOOTINGS.

SO IT'LL BE A TOOL THAT WE'LL HAVE IN OUR TRAINING THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A GRANT TO FUND THAT FOR US.

QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR.

THEN WHAT'S BEFORE US? SHE'S LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE APPLYING FOR FUNDING FOR TRAINING EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS PRESENTED THE EMOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.

NEXT ITEM DISCUSSED.

[10. Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter into a public hearing.]

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO EXIT REGULAR MEETING AND GOING TO A PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

WILL COMMISSION CASES ARE SECOND.

SO AGAIN, SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

ITEM 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING PLACING NO THROUGH TRUCKS.

[11. Public Hearing; To receive input from the public regarding placing "No Thru Truck" signs on County Road 125 in the unincorporated sections of Pet. 1.]

SIGNS ON COUNTY ROAD.

ONE 25 IN PRECINCT.

ONE COMMISSIONER, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS? UH, BASICALLY ONE 25 TIES IN FROM FOUR 29 TO HIRAM ROAD AND HIRE ROAD IS NO THREE TRUCKS ALREADY.

SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF ELIMINATE ANOTHER ACCESS FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO MAKE IT THROUGH TO THERE, THESE GUYS OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

SO WE HAD TO TAKE IT OFF TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

SO.

UH, AND WE HAVE A, I HAVE A CARD FROM RANDY BULLOCK, UH, MR. BULLOCK IF YOU WOULD CARE TO COME.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A PUBLIC MEETING.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR FORM, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR DOING THAT.

IF YOU TELL US WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU LIVE, AND WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME IS RANDY BULLOCK.

I LIVE AT ONE SIX FOUR EIGHT TWO COUNTY ROAD TWO 55.

AND TERRELL, UH, FIRST OFF I WANNA SAY THANKS TO YOU JUDGE AND THANKS TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO TALK THROUGH THIS MORNING AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR REELECTION BIDS OR PRECINCT THREE.

YOU DO A GREAT JOB FOR US.

UM, I SPEAK WITH MR BARBARA AND MR. CONWAY NUMEROUS TIMES REGARDING THE TRUCK SITUATION ON TWO 55, THE SANDPIT THERE IS ON TWO 43 AND THOSE TRUCKS YOU USE TWO 55 AS A CUT-THROUGH.

SO WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN.

THAT ROAD ISSUE THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE REALLY IS THE ROAD DAMAGE THAT THEY DO TO THE ROAD.

UM, THE ROAD WITH DOES NOT ALLOW PRETTY MUCH FOR YOU TO PASS ON THAT ROAD.

IF THERE'S A TRUCK COMING DOWN OR A TRUCK AND A PUP, SOMEBODY HAS TO PULL INTO THE DITCH AND AS MUCH RAIN AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, THEY EITHER GET STUCK OR WE GET STUCK OR IT TEARS THE ROADS UP.

SO IT'S CONSTANT MAINTENANCE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO, FOR ME TO CALL AND SAY, HEY WE NEED SOMEBODY TO COME GRAB THE ROADS CAUSE YOU CAN'T GET UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.

PLUS WITH THE WHITE OF THOSE TRUCKS AND ON THESE ROCK ROADS, IT JUST RUBBED BOREDOM OVER A PERIOD OF SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO YOU KNOW BASICALLY WHAT THE SPEED THAT THEY HAVE COMING ON DOWN THAT ROAD IS ALSO AN ISSUE.

LOT OF THOSE GUYS DROPPED PRETTY FAST ON THOSE ROCK ROADS AND IF IT'S LOADED WITH DIRT AND YOU PULL OUT AND YOU DON'T SEE THEM HANGING AROUND, YOU'RE PRETTY FAST.

SO I THINK IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE TOO.

I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO REALLY PUT THOSE TRUCKS ON TWO 43 RIGHT NOW AND THEY HAVE NOW FIGURED OUT THEY CAN USE OR HAVE NOT JUST NOW FIGURED OUT THEY'D BEEN DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS, BUT WE JUST NEED TO STOP THEM COMING UP AND DOWN TO 55 SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAD JUST TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WAS MR. BULLOCK SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED ACTION.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD CARE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED ACTION? IS THERE ANYONE WITH US WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ACTION? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

ITEM AND THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT

[12. Public Hearing; To receive input from the public regarding placing "No Thru Truck" signs on County Road 255 in the unincorporated sections of Pet. 3.]

THIS IS TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING NO THREE TRUCK SIGNS ON COUNTY ROAD TWO 55 OR, I'M SORRY, THAT'S WHAT MR. BULLOCK WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IN PRECINCT THREE.

SAME THING.

LAURIE OR MEXICO? THE SAME STORE.

AT LEAST PUT THE SIGNS OUT, HOPEFULLY THAT GIVE US THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE, UH, SOME ACTION ON THERE IF THEY START USING THE ROADS.

I MEAN IT'S JUST A, THE TRUCKS ARE A PROBLEM.

THEY ARE THE ROUTES THEY CAN TAKE THAT ARE FARM TO MARKET ROADS AND SUCH AND THEY KEEP USING OUR COUNTY ROADS.

WE NEED TO GET THEM OFF OF THEM CAUSE THEY'RE DESTROYING THEM.

UH, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, UH, THE OWNER OF THE SAM PAT DOWN THERE HAS OFFERED IN HIS ALREADY DONATED SOME MONEY TO THE COUNTY FOR REPAIRS, UH, TO COUNTY ROAD TWO 43 WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT THIS SUMMER.

BUT THESE OTHER SIDE ROADS, UH, THE TRUCK DRIVERS, THEY LEAVE OUT OF THAT PIT AND THEY JUST, ANY ROUTE THEY CAN TAKE, THEN YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT UP TO TWO OH FIVE AND LEAVE OUT FROM THERE.

SO IF WE CAN ELIMINATE OR

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WOULD, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION TO EXIT PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING.

SO WE HAD TWO ROADS THERE IN HIS PUBLIC HEARING.

ONE 25 AND TWO 55.

ANYBODY ELSE CARE TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THOSE, THESE PROPOSED ACTIONS? OKAY.

THEN I

[13. Discuss/Consider exiting public hearing and enter back into a regular meeting]

WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER AND KATE'S DISCUSSION.

ITEM, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDER PLACING NO THROUGH CRUX SIGNS ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 25 AND THE UNINCORPORATED SECTIONS OF PRECINCT ONE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[14. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider approving order placing "No Thru Truck" signs on County Road 125 in the unincorporated sections of Pet. 1.]

IS THERE A MOTION FOR THAT? ACTION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WHERE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER BARBERS ARE SECOND.

UH, ITEM

[15. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider approving order placing "No Thru Truck" signs on County Road 255 in the unincorporated sections of Pet. 3.]

15, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPROVING ORDER PLACING NO THROUGH TRUCKS.

SIGNS ON COUNTY ROAD TWO 55 AND UNINCORPORATED SECTIONS OF PRECINCT THREE.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE PO'S KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, I, I DON'T SEE CONSTABLE MAYFIELD IN HERE WITH US EITHER.

WE WILL PASS THAT ITEM.

[17. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider first transportation bond issuance and selection of projects/funding allocation.]

UH, NEXT ITEM.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER, UH, FIRST TRANSPORTATION ROAD BOND ISSUANCE IN SELECTION OF PROJECT FUNDING.

ALLOCATION.

UM, WELL I'LL PUT THIS ON THEIR OWN.

THE AGENDA TOO.

UH, WE GOT, UH, I GUESS A RECOMMENDATION IS FROM JOHN POSTER FROM ITS ON HOW TO SPEND OUR BOND MONEY FOR THE FIRST ISSUANCE.

UH, WHENEVER I GOT THAT, UM, I HAD A HALF A ROAD OF THIS, THE ONLY RULE COUNTY ROAD THAT I HAD ON MY, ON THE MY SELECTION.

SO I STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT TRYING TO GET AT LEAST A ROAD A YEAR.

SO TWO ROADS OUT OF THE THREE THAT I RECOMMENDED INITIALLY TO DO.

UM, I WILL SAY THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I TALKED TO THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN, THEY'VE TALKED TO THEIR ENGINEERS AND THEIR FUNDING IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT WE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATED.

I HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS.

THEY REALLY WORKED REAL HARD TO LISTEN TO WHAT I WAS SAYING.

AND THEY, THEY'VE LOOKED AT THEIR PROJECTS TOO AND THERE'S SOME SOUNDS BAD TO SAY PAINTING, BUT THERE'S SOME CONTINGENCY IN THERE FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

SO I CAN GET, UH, THE ROAD THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET IT FOR A YEAR OR TWO IS KIND OF ROAD ONE 24 FAN AND DRIVE TYLER MERLE IN HICKORY.

IT'S ALL ONE ROAD TIED TOGETHER AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BE DONE.

AND WHAT I'VE FOUND FROM JUST PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES FOR A CONTRACTOR THAT THERE IS ENOUGH EXTRA MONEY IN THERE THAT I CAN MAKE THIS WORK.

THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT HELPED MAKE IT WORK WOULD BE WHENEVER THE RECOMMENDATION CAME IN, I THINK IT WAS 39 MILLION, 440,000 OR 450,000 AND WE ROUNDED IT UP TO 40,000 FOR THE BOND ISSUANCE.

SO THERE'S EXTRA 550,000 THERE'S A LOT TO GET MOVED TO PRECINCT ONE.

TELL ME FUN.

WHAT I LIKE TO DO.

SO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO VOTE ON THE FINAL TO MAKE THIS FINAL, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT POSTER GAVE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO ADD ONE MORE ROAD IN MY PRECINCT FOR THE RURAL CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE.

SO WHAT MOST KNOW TO THE PROBLEM WAS TO, ON HIRAM ROAD, UM, THEY APPROPRIATED 15,000 FOOT OF A 25,000 FOOT ROAD.

SO BASICALLY I GOT A HALF OF A COUNTY ROAD THAT I ASKED FOR HER.

SO, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THE MONIES THAT WAS ALREADY APPROPRIATED FOR PRECINCT ONE, IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT ANYBODY ELSE.

BIT NOW THAT WE HAVE TIME.

UH, WOULD, UH, WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE FOR US TO, TO JUST WORKSHOP THAT LIST ON THE 17TH, UH, WHICH WOULD BE NEXT WEEK AND, UH, POLLSTER IS OUT OF TOWN.

HE WOULD BE HERE.

WE COULD GET IT FREE.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO FREEZE IN NICKELS TO GO OVER THERE, HOW THEY CALCULATE IT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU A FRESH AND NICHOLS, UH, DEVELOP THOSE FIGURES AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT.

AND MOST OF US KNOW THAT.

AND NO OFFENSE RON, BUT MOST OF US KNOW ENGINEERS DON'T GENERALLY WORK AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT, BUT FREESE AND NICHOLS DID.

AND, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEY, THEY WERE, THEY WERE ASKED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND MAKE SURE THEY PUT PLENTY OF MONEY.

SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WORKSHOP IN THAT AND WE MIGHT EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT REFINING THOSE NUMBERS A LITTLE

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AND WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT TO, I THINK IT'S GREAT CAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT THAT WE HAD TO MAKE IT FIT IN THE BOX WITH THE MONEY THAT WE COULD GET TO STATE TO KEEP OUR TAX RATES THE SAME.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, AND WE GOT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE TAX DOLLARS.

AND I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD TO REFINE THOSE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT AFTER IF PREACHING NICHOLS SAYS CAN DO THAT.

SO, UH, OKAY.

WELL I'M GOING TO, THEN I'LL ASK ANNABEL TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP FOR US ON THE 17TH, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I WILL HAVE A COMPLIMENT TO CHRIS AND CHRIS AND THEY LAST MINUTE.

THEY WERE REAL RECEPTIVE AND THEY LISTENED TO WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND WITH NO PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE REAL GOOD TO WORK WITH.

THEY REALLY WERE.

SO, OKAY.

UH, SO I'M GONNA ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE EMOTION COMING FROM THAT.

THERE'S NO MOTION.

SO WE'LL PASS ITEM 17, UH, ITEM 18,

[18. Randy Richards; Present/Accept the Fire Marshal's monthly activity report.]

RANDY RICHARD'S PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT.

SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE JUST HERE LAST MONTH.

I GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU CALL IT A MONTHLY REPORT, RIGHT? GO OVER THEM LINE BY LINE, THE SIZE AND TIME FOR THE COURT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, A FIRE-RELATED WE'RE ROCKING ALONG ABOUT AVERAGE AS WE HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK FROM LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS, UH, INSPECTION AND A PERMIT WAS WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, EVEN UP OR ON THE UPTICK FROM, UH, LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS.

UH, I DID JUST A LITTLE QUICK CALCULATION THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY ON TRACK RIGHT NOW TO EXCEED LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS IN BOTH THE ACTIVITY AND AS WELL AS THE, UH, REVENUES.

UH, REVENUES FOR FEBRUARY WERE $8,593, WHICH COMES IN FROM, UH, ALL THE PERMITS AND FEES CONSTRUCTION GOING ON WITH THE COUNTY UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY PARTICULAR LAND QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FIRE MARSHALL'S MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT? SO MOVE WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM FOR APPROVAL FOR COMMISSIONER CASES OR SECOND.

SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

FAR MARSHALL TO PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE FUND FOR CANINE CARE FROM SOUTH PADRE FIRE DEPARTMENT? YES SIR.

NEXT ITEM A

[19. Randy Richards; Present/Accept fund for K-9 care from South Padre Fire Department.]

WE, UH, JUST AS OF TODAY BEING THE FIRST OFFICIAL DATE, WE DID FILL OUR BACKUP POSITION FOR A DEPUTY AND UH, ALONG WITH HER CAME HER CANINE, WHICH WAS A, UH, A GRANT CANINE THROUGH STATE FARM PROGRAM AND, UH, THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE FOR THAT CANINE.

ASIDE FROM THE GENERAL FUND, THE, UH, CITY OF, UH, SOUTH PADRE HAS A APPROXIMATELY $3,900 IN THEIR ACCOUNT FOR THE CARE OF THAT DOG.

AND THEY WERE, UH, WANTING TO SEND THAT MONEY TO CALVIN COUNTY.

WE'LL PLACE IT IN HIS CAMP OVER THE FIRE CODE SIDE.

OH, THE UPKEEP.

I JUST THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE AN, IT'S, IT'S ITS TOOLKIT TO, TO REALLY COMBAT THE INSTANCES OF ARSON THAT, THAT, UH, PRESENTED ITSELF TO YOU.

SO, UM, QUESTIONS, RANDY, WOULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE NATURE OF THE CANINE IS? THIS CANINE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR ACCELERANT DETECTION.

SOME PEOPLE REFER TO HIM AS ARSON DOGS.

UH, THIS DOG HAS RECEIVED TOP RANKING FROM, UH, SOME OF THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND WE JUST ACTUALLY MET HERE LAST MONTH AT A CONFERENCE AND SPOKE VERY HIGHLY OF THE DOG AND OF THE HANDLER ITSELF.

SO, WELL, WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE HER ON BOARD.

UH, OUR FIRST FEMALE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, THE HISTORY WITH THE DOG ITSELF IS, UH, SHE TRIED SPOT OFF WITH IT.

AS WITH MOST ANY CANINE, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, LIKE THEY TRAIN QUITE OFTEN WITH ERRORS, BUT THERE'S TRAINING AIDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

UH, THOSE ARE ALL PROVIDED AT, UH, AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY THROUGH GRANTS AND DONATIONS, UH, THE FOOD AND SO FORTH AND UPKEEP ON THE DOG.

WE ACTUALLY, A STATE FARM JUST RECENTLY REALIZED THAT SHE WAS TRANSFERRING HERE AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CAGE, THE KENNEL CAGE THAT WE WOULD PUT INSIDE THE VEHICLE AND STATE FARM PROVIDED, UH, THE SHIPPING COST AND THE PRICE OF THE CAGE ITSELF.

WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET IT INSTALLED, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TOO COMPLICATED, BUT THIS DOG, IN ADDITION TO BEING A, A VERY GOOD ACCELERANT DETECTION DOG IS ALSO UTILIZED IN THE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND ARSON AWARENESS.

SHE HAS DEVELOPED SEVERAL PROGRAMS FOR THAT, THE SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH, TRYING TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.

AND ANY OTHER PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DOPE? NO,

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YES, SIR.

SO, UH, UH, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE $3,900 FUNDING FROM CANINE FOR CANINE CARE FROM SOUTH PARK.

WE LIKE TO SAY THAT YES, THE DOGS ARE A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST BENEFITS GOING TO BE IN IT, AND I JUST KIND OF CLARIFY, YOU MADE THE COMMENT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THE DOG AND PUBLIC EDUCATION FIRE EDUCATION.

YES SIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S MORE VALUABLE THAN THE ORSON PART OF THE DOG WHEN WE GET OUT TO, AND WE'LL REACH THE KIDS AND WE CAN TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT EARLY AGE FOR FIRE PREVENTION.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET MORE SO THAN THE ARSON PART.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT, GREAT THING.

WOULD YOU CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT FUNDING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE SAID WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT TO SET THAT FUNDING IS OUR SECOND.

I'LL SECOND SABER FROM SHERIFF PHILLIPS.

THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO KNOW THAT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

IT'S GOING TO THE FIRE CODE FINE.

SO IT'LL BE TOTALLY TAKEN CARE OF OUT OF HIS, HIS FUN.

LYNN SMITH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER STRATEGIC BUDGET CLEANING FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UM, OKAY.

[20. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider Strategic Budget Planning for Kaufman County.]

SO WHAT WE HAVE IS A PROPOSAL FROM TEXAS AGRILIFE EXTENSION AND THIS WOULD BE TO DEVELOP A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC BUDGET.

UM, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PROFESSOR IN ONE STUDENT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT MONTHS, UH, MEETING WITH EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND THE BENEFIT MORE THAN ANYTHING IS TO HAVE THE TEMPLATE AND TO HAVE THE DATA MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THIS WOULD BE A $26,000 INVESTMENT.

UM, AND IT WOULD BEGIN IN MAY, AT WHICH POINT WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE BY DECEMBER OF 2020.

UH, IT, IT RAYMOND DIDN'T SAY VG YOUNG.

UH, ACTUALLY, UH, UH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VG YOUNG IS A PARTICIPANT IN THIS AND THERE WILL BE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE AGRILIFE FACILITATORS IN THE DALLAS AREA THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT ALSO.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME WORKSHOPS AND ALSO WITH JUST VARIOUS MEETINGS, NOBODY ON ONSITE.

SO JUDGE, UM, HAVE TO JUMP IN HERE AS REBECCA TODAY.

SHE HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT SHE LEFT A NOTE FOR ME CAUSE I WASN'T OUT YESTERDAY.

WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING ISSUE ON THIS AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO SOME RESEARCH WHILE SITTING HERE ABOUT WHETHER IT MEETS ANY OF THE QUIETLY ALTERNATIVES IT IS, UM, UNDER THE AMOUNT OF 50,000.

SO WOULD NOT REQUIRE OR SOLE SOURCE? NO, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER FIRMS THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPOSAL.

SO IN YOUR OPINION, WE'RE GOOD.

YES MA'AM.

WE DID HAVE ANOTHER, NOT A PROPOSAL, BUT WE DID HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH A PRIVATE CONSULTANT IN THAT THE ESTIMATE THEY HAD WAS, I'LL JUST SAY IT WAS WELL INTO THE SIX FIGURES.

SO WE DO HAVE, WHAT IS YOUR DEAL IS 300,000 IS YEAH.

300,000, WHICH I DIDN'T CONSIDER A SERIOUS PROPOSAL ACTUALLY, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT IN, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

PETER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A VG YOUNG.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, LIKE THIS CONSULTANT THAT I'VE TALKED TO, NOT MANY PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND HOW THINGS WORK IN, UH, HE'S, HE'S A VETERAN OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

SO I THINK HIS INPUT WILL BE REALLY VALUABLE.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAN? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT FOR THE STRATEGIC BUDDY PLANET WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WHERE THAT MOTION WITH COMMISSIONER CASE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES,

[21. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approving the Transportation Services Contract between Innovative Transportation Solutions, Inc. and Kaufman County.]

UH, ON ROUTE 21 DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, CONTACT BETWEEN INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS AND COPLAND COUNTY.

THIS IS SIMPLY A FOLLOWUP TO THE RFQ THAT WE DID.

AND YOU APPROVED JANUARY 28TH, UH, THEY WERE THE

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SOLE RESPONDENT TO RFQ 2013 SO THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THE FINAL TERMS OF THE CONDITION OF THE CONTRACT THAT WERE DISCUSSED.

THERE WERE NO MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN THIS CONTRACT AND THE LAST ALSO INCLUDING THE PRICING.

SO THE MONTHLY PRICE WILL ALSO REMAIN THE SAME.

UH, IT WILL BE FOR THE MAXIMUM OF THE FIVE YEARS, THE ONE YEAR PLUS THE TWO YEAR RENEWAL.

UM, IN THE SIMPLE THOUGHT IS THAT THAT WOULD TAKE YOU THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE BOND PROGRAM.

BEFORE YOU HAD TO GET BACK OUT.

QUESTIONS.

THE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH TRANSPORTATION SERVICES? INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

IS THERE A SECOND? SORRY.

SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

UH, DISCUSS SCOPE OF SERVICES AND CONTRACT OPTIONS.

ITEM 22,

[22. Raylan Smith; Discuss scope of services and contract options for RFP 20-12:2019 Kaufman County Compensation and Classification Study.]

UH, RFP 2012 2019 KAUFMAN COUNTY COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.

I'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS.

I KNOW I TRIED TO DO IS GIVE YOU A CHEAT SHEET OF THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS FOR THE COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT ALSO TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE LINE ITEMS FROM EACH OF THE OPTIONS TO REMIND YOU THAT THE FALL OF THE SECOND PAGE, OPTION FIVE IS THE FULL SCOPE.

UM, AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLY NARROWING DOWN THE SCOPE AND REALLY TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE WANTING FROM THIS STUDY.

SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY AND UM, I DON'T KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE THIS FORWARD SO I WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON JUST SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE HAD AND Y'ALL CAN LET ME KNOW IF THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE STUDY.

AND THEN ONCE I'M FINISHED, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T MENTION THAT MAYBE WE COULD GO BACK AND ADD THAT, WOULD THAT WORK OKAY.

UM, AS SIMPLY PUT IN A REVIEW OF SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED JOB DESCRIPTIONS, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PAY FOR THOSE ONE BY ONE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED A COMPLETE OVERHAUL, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE SOME JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT MAY BE REWRITTEN, UM, TO COMPLETE A SALARY SURVEY OF COUNTY GOVERNMENTS JUST WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, TEXAS DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY.

UM, THERE'S GENERALLY A GROUP OF COUNTIES THAT WE REACH OUT TO THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR POOL.

AND SO I THINK THAT INSTEAD OF THEM DOING THEIR SEARCH FOR COUNTIES, WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

UM, THEN TO DEVELOP A PAY PLAN, IDENTIFYING THE SPECIFIC PARAMETERS AND REVIEW AND ASSIGN ALL POSITIONS INTO THAT GRADE.

SO THEN HIGHLIGHT WHERE OUR PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY FIT INTO THE NEW PAY SCALE.

UM, AND TO ALSO PROVIDE A CALCULATION COST OF IMPLEMENTING THE STUDY AND THE RECOMMENDED NUMBER OF YEARS JUST SO THAT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD FOR BUDGET AND NO MATTER THE OPTIONS.

I WOULD SAY THAT YOU WOULD ADD, UM, THAT PROVIDING HUMAN RESOURCE STAFF WITH THE TRAINING ON HOW TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE ONCE THIS IS COMPLETE.

BASICALLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID PRETTY MUCH TAKES YOU AN OPTION THREE FOR THE MOST, YEAH, IT IS THE PAY STRUCTURE STUDY.

IT JUST ADDS IN THE SOFTWARE AND UH, JOB DESCRIPTIONS AS WE NEED THEM.

UH, EXCEPT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAM THAT KEEP UP WITH THE, WITH THE PROCESS IN SOME SENSE.

BUT THEN THE, AND NOW IN THIS, IN THIS STUDY, AND WE DISCOVERED THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING THE WORK, WE'RE PROVIDING THE INFORMATION AND WE'RE KIND OF DOING THE WORK.

THIS IS BASICALLY A COMPUTER PROGRAM RATHER THAN WORDS.

OUR STAFF WON'T DO IT.

SO EVERYBODY REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT ALSO A GOOD THING OR A BAD THING.

WELL I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE DOING IT.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T DO IT, YOU KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE JUST DOES IT FOR YOU.

IT'S A STORY.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED IS THAT ALSO YOU PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR A STUDY THAT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION ALREADY.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE THING, I'M, I'M, I'M KINDA CONFUSED ON THE MATTER OF FACT THAT IF WE'RE DOING IT, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN'T DO IT.

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YOU STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND PUT FUTURE INFORMATION INTO IT.

CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GOING TO CONNECT YOU WITH DENTON COUNTY OR COAL MILL COUNTY OR WHATEVER.

AND LIKE DENTON COUNTY DID THIS STUDY AND THEY SPENT HOW MUCH 500,000 THEY COULDN'T IMPLEMENT IT BECAUSE ONCE THEY DID THE STATE, THEY REALIZED THEY COULDN'T IMPLEMENT THIS.

IT WAS JUST TWO WEEKS POTENTIALLY THE CLIMB AND SALINE, THEY COULD NOT IMPLEMENT IT.

SO MY QUESTION WILL BE TO THE REST OF YOU AND TO ME, DO WE WANT TO DO A STUDY THAT WE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO IMPLEMENT? SO SHOULDN'T WE COME BACK TO OUR HR DEPARTMENT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES, OUR SALE, GET OUR INFORMATION AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DO OUR OWN STUDY.

I MEAN, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ASK, BUT I MEAN IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LEAST EXPENSIVE COMPANY ON THE DEAL.

THIS IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.

AND I MEAN THE NEXT ONE IS WAY OFF THE CHART FROM THEM.

SO IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD COMFORT THAT, THAT ALL OF OUR, PARTICULARLY OUR ELECTED DEPARTMENT HEADS, THAT THEY SEE THAT THEY, THAT THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF IT, THAT THEY WANT, I DON'T WANT TO DO, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT US TO DO A STUDY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT I THINK IT'S, I MEAN, WE NEED THE INFORMATION.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT WE NEED THIS INFORMATION.

IT'S JUST HOW DO WE OBTAIN IT AND HOW WE MAINTAIN IT.

WELL, WHAT'S THEIR TRUE, NO JOKE, CAPACITY OF HR TO CON TO DO THIS WORK AND DO IT IN A TIME OF YOURSELVES.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN THEY HAVE A PRETTY LIMITED STAFF AS IT IS.

WELL, BUT I MEAN, FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THIS, YOU CAN ALMOST HIRE A PERSON IN HOUSE TO CONDUCT THIS KIND OF THING.

WELL, I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS HEADED.

I MEAN, WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADED WITH IT ALL.

THAT'S WHEN I COME BACK AND SAY, DO WE WANT TO INITIATE THIS IN HOUSE BECAUSE COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S NOT THE SAME AS PRIVATE AND WE ARE COMPETING WITH PRIVATE INDUSTRY BUT YET WE'RE NOT.

I MEAN CAUSE WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT BENEFITS.

I ALSO DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OPTION FIVE LIKE THAT, THAT'S THE GOLD SERVICE, RIGHT? AND SO THAT WAS WHAT THE, THE INITIAL QUOTE OF THE 38,100, RIGHT.

IT INCLUDED ALL OF THESE SERVICES.

SO DO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WOULD BE CUTTING OUT A LOT OF THE INTERVIEWS AND THE WORKSHOPS AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME VERY EXPENSIVE TASKS THAT WE WILL BE REMOVING FROM THEIR, UM, YES, YOU WANT ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VENDOR AND FIND OUT WHAT THE CONTRACT AMOUNT WOULD BE TO DO THE SURVEY ITSELF AND THE PAY SCALE.

AND I MEAN IF WE WANTED TO DO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OR HOWEVER YOU WANTED IT PRESENTED.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT HOW IT'S PRESENTED TO US IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT WHEN IT LOOKED AT TECHS.

DAC HAS AN ONGOING SALARY SURVEY.

WELL AND, AND, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SURVEY ALREADY THE MAIN WAY I, CAUSE I HAVE ONE.

I MEAN YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN IT, THIS IS A HARD DECISION IN SOME SENSES AND HOW LONG YOU KNOW, IN AND SINCE IT'S A PROGRAM, IF YOU KEEP UPDATING IT, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN.

THAT'S WHAT I'M, WHERE I'M COMING BACK TO THEM ABOUT HIRING THE IN HOUSE STAFF PERSON THAT ACTUALLY DOES THIS.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO END UP PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION CONSTANTLY.

IT MIGHT NOT.

EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS.

I MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO DO IT.

THIS FLORIDA COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE A WAY TO SIT AND CONSTANTLY UPDATE OUR SYSTEM UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM WELL AND WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE ANNUAL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO SAY YOU WENT IN TO LOOK AT THIS EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS OR FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DATE THE POOL, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF FRONT.

IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER THINGS CAN TAKE A LOT OF FRONT END WORK AND A LOT OF MAN HOURS AND THAT'S WHY THEY PUSHED THE SOFTWARE AFTER THAT.

THE MAINTENANCE OF IT SHOULDN'T, I MEAN IT'S, IT MAY TAKE, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND MAN HOURS TO DO THIS PROJECT AND THEN A HUNDRED MAN HOURS EVERY YEAR TO MAINTAIN IT, BUT ARE, ARE COMPOUNDED OR WHATEVER,

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I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOUR WORKFORCE WILL SORT OF BE INDICATIVE OF, IS IT TIME TO UPDATE YOUR STUDY? UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, ONCE WE ESTABLISH A BASELINE, UM, AFTER THREE TO FOUR YEARS, IF, ONCE AGAIN WE BEGIN TO, TO EXPERIENCE, UH, RETENTION PROBLEMS OR RECRUITMENT PROBLEMS, THEN THAT'D BE A PRETTY GOOD INDICATOR THAT WE'D NEED TO DUST OFF OUR INFORMATION.

SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD BE A, A REALLY ONGOING MAINTENANCE THING.

WELL, AT SOME POINT IT IS AN ONGOING THING, I THINK.

I THINK IF YOU DON'T CARE MUCH, THE REAL CHALLENGE OF THIS IS IS, AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT'S THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE, I THINK WE MIGHT, WE HAVE TO HAVE HELP TO DO THIS IS YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING OTHER COUNTY OR A CITY WITH A PARTICULAR JOB TITLE AND A JOB DESCRIPTION AND SOMEBODY LOOKING AT THAT WOULD LOOK AT THAT JOB TITLE AND THAT JOB DESCRIPTION OF THE COUNTY.

TOTALLY.

IT MAY BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT OR WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DO, MAYBE TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE.

YOU NEED SOME PROFESSIONALS.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION COMES IN, BUT DON'T FORGET THAT THE CHEAP OPTION, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THE CHEAP OPTION ON ALL OF THEM IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WORK.

I MEAN BASICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO INPUT THE INFORMATION.

CAN I INTERJECT SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT.

HR HAS A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR THREE YEARS THAT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED CALLED NEO GOV AND IT DOES A LOT OF STUFF LIKE THIS.

IF YOU COULD GET MARY SOME EXPERIENCED PERSON TO HELP HER GET THIS INSTALLED AND GET IT TRAINED ON IT, THEN I THINK IT WOULD ANSWER A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT HAS VERY, VERY VARIOUS MODELS THAT YOU CAN ADD THAT KEEPS UP WITH THE EMPLOYEES, THEIR DATA, WHAT THEIR PAY IS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I THINK THAT THE COMPLICATED PART IS GOING TO BE MATCHING JOBS UP.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT OPTION ON THIS COMPANY.

AND I THINK THAT ONE, I THINK ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT WAS MENTIONED, NO NAMES THAT ACTUALLY DID EMBED IN THE OTHER, WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, SIX, $700,000 YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN CAUSE IT IS, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT IS A MAN HOUR DAY.

I MEAN WHEN YOU START INVESTIGATING EACH OTHER COUNTY AND PULLING IN AND EXACTLY WHAT THAT EMPLOYEE DOES, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY MIGHT CALL IT A RECEPTIONIST SLASH SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY DO NOTHING AND YOURS DOES 18 DIFFERENT JOBS.

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME, YOU KNOW, A PICK A NUMBER, 80, 85% OR MORE OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND IN THE COUNTY IS ON PEOPLE AND, AND I FELT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD GRASP OF WHERE WE'RE A SERVICE FIRST NAIL AND THAT'S IT.

WHETHER IT'S GOTCHA.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, PRESUMPTIVELY WE'VE CANVAS MOST OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, ARE, ARE, ARE THEY INTERESTED IN THIS? I, I KNOW THAT I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED FROM A ROAD AND BRIDGE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PROBLEMS, BUT DO THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, ARE THEY, ARE THEY INVESTED, UH, ENOUGH FOR US TO INVEST THIS MONEY? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW INVOLVED THEY, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY DEEP DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, BUT I THINK IT'S A BUDGET MATTER REALLY.

I THINK IT REALLY FALLS INTO OUR WHEELHOUSE.

AND I THINK IF, UM, IF WE, IF WE DEVELOPED, IF THE STUDY DEVELOPED GOOD, A GOOD FRAMEWORK FOR US, I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP US OVER TIME, OVER THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

IT WOULD HELP US GET PEOPLE TO THE RIGHT SCALE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AND, AND IT WOULD ALSO HELP US SAY, UH, THIS PARTICULAR POSITION.

MAYBE IT DOESN'T MERIT THAT KIND OF A OF A SCALE THAT WE'RE PAYING.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

WELL I DON'T MEAN THAT I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR? I MEAN THAT'S THE BIGGEST INTAKE THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM THIS WHOLE MATTER OF INFORMATION AND HOW MUCH THE SOPHOMORES GOING TO COST US AN ANNUAL COST RIGHT THERE TOO.

AND MAYBE I MISSED THEM.

HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO MARY OR HR TO SEE WHAT SHE CAN DO? YEAH.

WELL WHY DO WE HAVE A, SOME SORT OF AN ANALYTICAL PROGRAM THAT WE DON'T, THAT WE PAY FOR BUT WE DON'T USE, I MEAN IF SHE CAN, IT WAS BOUGHT BY PREVIOUS HR DIRECTOR AND IT WAS NEVER INSTALLED.

WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE COMPUTERS AND EVERYTHING CAUSE ONE OF THE

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MODULES ACTUALLY LETS UH, AN APPLICANT COME IN AND SET AT THE LAB, THE COMPUTER FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, EVEN TAKE SKILLS TESTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO THE JOB RIGHT.

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN WORK.

IT'S NOT EVEN INSTALLED.

NO, IT'S NOT INSTALLED.

HASN'T BEEN BUILT.

WE OWN IT.

BUT WHAT ARE YOU GRAND A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH.

WE PAID PROBABLY ABOUT 60,000.

THE COMMISSIONERS JUDGE HELPED US FIND THE MONEY AND WE BROUGHT IT TO COURT AND SPENT THE MONEY AND MARRIES, WENT TO TWO OF THEIR SEMINARS.

WELL IN, IN THIS PROGRAM WAS ESSENTIALLY KIND OF THIS COMPANY'S PROGRAM AND IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THAT COMPANY, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE HEADED WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE WANTING TO BE ABLE TO INPUT OTHER PEOPLE'S INFORMATION, FIND OUT WHERE EVERYBODY WASN'T.

IT GIVES YOU A GOOD AVERAGE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IF WE'RE NOT.

AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE THAT PROGRAM, WE COULD FUND A SIGNIFICANT STUDY JUST OUT OF NOT PAYING FOR SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE NOT USING WHEN WE'VE PAID FOR IT ALREADY.

NO, I THINK WE'RE PAYING AN ANNUALLY.

HOW MUCH WE PAY ANNUALLY NOW FOR IT.

I'D HAVE TO GO AND RESEARCH AND PULL THEM, BUT I MEAN, IN, IN, IN, IN, I REACHED OUT TO MARY AND MARY SEEMS TO THINK THAT HER STAFF COULD DO THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN OR NOT.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T, CAN'T, I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

SHE'S GOING TO NEED SOME HELP TO GET IT DONE.

I CAN TELL YOU TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A FRONT LOADED DEAL.

AND UH, JUST, I MEAN, I'LL TELL Y'ALL S TWS THE BEST FINANCE SOFTWARE I'VE EVER USED.

I'VE USED IT FOR 30 YEARS.

THEY JUST SOLD OUT TO SOMEBODY ELSE SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT MY, ADAM'S THAT I USE TO HELP WITH THE BUDGET.

I'VE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR US OR JUST THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN.

ALL OF THAT STRUGGLE SOFTWARE.

RIGHT? ON WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT YOU, YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS DEEPER THAN ANYBODY.

I KNOW SKEET IS, BUT SO WHAT DO YOU, HOW DO WE COME TO SOME SORT OF A DECISION FOR THAT? I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO JUST, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT IN HOUSE OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS VENDOR COMPLETE THEIR RESEARCH.

AND SO IF I CAN GO BACK TO THE VENDOR IN CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT, AND THE ONE THING THAT I WAS GOING TO ADD IS I'LL FIND OUT ABOUT THE ANNUAL FEE AND THEN ALSO GO AHEAD AND ADD CONDUCT REVIEWS FOR EXISTING JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND RECOMMEND UPDATES.

THAT WAY WE CAN GET ALL OF THAT OUT OF THE WAY AT ONE TIME.

UM, SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE LISTED, I CAN GO BACK AND GET A, AN EXACT QUOTE FROM THE VENDOR, AT WHICH POINT YOUR TWO OPTIONS WOULD BE EITHER WE DO IT IN HOUSE OR WE MOVE WITH THE VENDOR.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, MAYBE WE ASK, UH, THE HR DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US A PROPOSAL.

UH, AND, AND I WOULD SAY LIKE ALMOST A CONTRACT.

LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY, HOW, HOW MUCH MONEY SHE'S GOING TO NEED TO DO IT IN HOUSE AND HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE OR HOW MANY SHE NEEDS AN EXTRA EMPLOYEE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL, MAYBE AN INDIVIDUAL CONSULTANT OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE PAYING TO KNOW ALL THIS AND IT ALL NEEDS TO BE BACK THROUGH THEM.

THERE'S NO QUESTION.

THEN? UH, WE'LL GO TO 23 WHICH IS DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY ON ASSETS.

SO I GUESS THAT YOUR INSTRUCTIONS OR WHATEVER AND I CAN HEAR THEM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY, GOOD.

THAT WAS FINE.

UM, OKAY, SO WE'LL HEAR BACK.

THAT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION ON HIM.

AND ARE WE OKAY TO MOVE ON

[23. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of County owned assets.]

WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH TODAY.

WE DO HAVE TWO VEHICLES AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL WERE AWARE.

THIS IS A LIGHT BAR THAT WAS EXTRA EQUIPMENT THAT CAME OFF AN OLDER MODEL VEHICLE THAT KSL HAD.

AND THAT'S WHY MY BANK WAS CALLING AROUND LOOKING FOR IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND THAT EQUIPMENT ANYMORE.

SO I DID WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE A DONATION CAUSE HE WANTED THEM BUBBLE GUM.

WELL THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL COUNTY ON ASSETS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS FOR A SECOND SO I CAN TAKE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER IN CAGE DISCUSSION.

A BELLY DUMP, A TAP TRUCK AGAIN AND UH, OF COURSE HAVE TO HAVE A TRACTOR RIG TO PULL IT WITH.

[24. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider the purchase of a 2021 Kenworth T880 in the amount of $139,589.36 utilizing Buyboard Contract #601-19 for Precinct #3]

NEXT DISCUSS.

CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF A 2021 THE AMOUNT OF ONE 39 FIVE 89 36 ON A BY BOARD CONTRACT FOR PRECINCT THREE.

MAKE SURE THAT YEAH, WE ARE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH LOOKING INTO THIS AND WE HAVE DUMP TRUCKS AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE'RE WANTING TO MOVE INTO GETTING

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AND WE'VE LOOKED AROUND AND WE JUST COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING WITHIN A REASONABLE PRICE RANGE IN A USED A TRACTOR RIG.

SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT NEW ONES AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR US AT LAST FOR YEARS.

UH, WE DO HAVE THE CASH TO PAY FOR IT SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MONTHLY OR ANNUAL PAYMENT DEAL.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LEASE THE TRAILER THAT GOES WITH IT.

WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD PRICE ON LEASING THE TRAILER FOR, WHICH IS A BETTER DEAL FOR US CAUSE EVERY SIX MONTHS WE ACTUALLY SWAP IT OUT FOR A BRAND NEW ONE.

SO IT'S NOT A BAD DEAL AT ALL.

AND WHAT IT DOES FOR US, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE GET READY TO UH, TO WORK ON A ROAD.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TO VERSE GO THROUGH THERE AND CLEAR THE TREES AT THE TRIM TREES BACK BEFORE WE GET IN THERE WITH A DUMP TRUCK.

CAUSE THEY HAVE TO LIFT UP WITH THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT WHEN YOU JUST GO STRAIGHT IN THERE AND DO THE WORK.

WE NEED TO DO QUESTIONS.

I'M SORRY THAT WAS YOUR ITEM, RIGHT ONE.

BUT I'M LEARNING ALL KINDS OF STUFF ABOUT DUMP TRUCKS.

UH, PERMISSION.

YOU DON'T LIKE THAT IT TURNS A MOTION.

LIKE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THIS VEHICLE.

UH, WE HAVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA TO PRE-DEPARTURE.

THAT VEHICLE IS PRESENTED.

ITEM 24.

IS THERE A SECOND NOW? SECOND.

NEXT DISCUSS SORT OF THE PURCHASE OF 2013 PETERBILT THREE 84 FOR 47,254 PRECINCT FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON EXACTLY SAME PROCESS.

[25. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider the purchase of a 2013 Peterbilt 384 in the amount of $47,250.00; utilizing Buyboard Contract #601-19, for Precinct #4]

WE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE FOUND A, WHAT WE FELT WAS A, A A GOOD VALUE IN A, IN A TRACTOR.

HAD IT BROUGHT UP FROM HOUSTON AND DID A REALLY THOROUGH INSPECTION.

WE BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD, A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE PRECINCT.

UH, IT WILL SAVE US A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AS WELL AS HAULING FEES.

UM, AND WE ALSO ARE GOING TO OPT FOR, UH, WHAT WE THINK IS AN EXCELLENT, UM, CONTRACT OPTION FOR A TRAILER FOR A BELLY DUMP TRAILER.

ALLOWS US TO PUT THE MATERIAL RIGHT OUT ON THE ROADS AT THE MOMENT THAT WE'RE, UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION.

SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU APPROVE THAT PURCHASE OF THAT TRUCK FOR 47 TO 50.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER IN CASE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THAT TRUCK HAS PRESENTED ON ITEM 25.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[26. Nathan Collins; Discuss/Consider approving First Amendment to CenturyLink Custom Cover Agreement between Kaufman County and CenturyLink Sales Solutions, Inc.]

ITEM 26 WAS A, AN ITEM THAT WAS NATHAN COLLINS.

IT DIRECTOR WAS GOING TO PRESENT.

UH, THEY'RE FINISHING UP SOME, JUST A FEW LITTLE DETAILED LANGUAGE ON THEIR CONTRACT.

HE'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THAT.

UH, AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH BRINGING FIBER TO THE COUNTY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT THING, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO SEE THAT ON THE NEXT MEETING.

SO, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM 26 AND WE'LL BRING IT UP THE NEXT NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ITEM 27.

16, CONSTABLE MAYFIELD DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE.

CONSTABLE.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, OKAY.

THEN, UH, I'M

[16. Constable Mayfield; Discuss/Consider approving the Racial Profiling Report for Kaufman County Constable Pet. #1.]

THIS WAS THE 2019 RACIAL PROFILE AND REPORT THAT WE TURNED INTO THE STATE.

119 TRAFFIC STUFF WERE CONDUCTED OF WHICH 64 WERE ISSUED.

CITATIONS.

55 VERBAL WARNINGS.

NO COMPLAINTS FILED WITH MY OFFICE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT IS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THE SECOND SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

OKAY, ITEM 27 LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

[27. Discuss/Consider line item transfers.]

MADAM AUDITOR.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

UH, THESE TRANSFERS WERE EMAILED TO YOU EARLIER FOR YOUR REVIEW.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON ITEM TRANSFERS? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SO AGAIN, SECOND ONE.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THEN THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 28.

LET'S POSE.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

AND

[28. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

I NEVER SAT DOWN ALL THE BILLS FOR THIS TIME.

HE 7 MILLION, $831,348

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IN 25 CENTS.

UM, DON'T PANIC BECAUSE 3,000,007 OF THAT WAS TO PAY ON S AND WE PAID THAT LAST MONTH, BUT WE DID IT AS A WIRE TRANSFER SO WE COULD HAVE A BACKUP OF WHY WE DID IT INSTEAD OF JUST DOING MANUAL JOURNAL ENTRIES.

IT'S ALL DONE AUTOMATIC.

SO JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THAT'S WHY THE BILLS ARE SO HIGH.

THAT WASN'T PANICKED.

WE KNOW YOU GOT TO DO TO CONTROL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR? UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO EX TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND.

I'LL SECOND SEGMENT.

ITEM 29 AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

[29. Adjourn Regular Meeting.]

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AGAIN TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GET A SECOND BEAR.

COMMISSIONER KATE SECOND.

LET'S GO AND HAVE TO DO IT.