Apr 14, 2020 Commissioners Court

US TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS CONSENT AGENDA.

THAT BRINGS

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BASICALLY A SERIES OF REPORTS.

UM, YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN PROVIDED.

YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE BEEN PROVIDED COPIES OF ALL OF THE REPORTS FOR YOU TO DISCUSS ANY OF THEM IN SPECIFIC OR DO YOU WANNA UH, IS ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS ONE ITEM? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.

ONE ITEM.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WHOLE.

SECOND FROM YOU, MR BARBARA.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE POSE? NO.

SHERIFF BEAVERS DISCUSS, CONSIDER FUNDING FOR NIGHT VISION GOGGLES FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SWAT TEAM THROUGH HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT FUNDING.

THEN WE HAVE WITH US AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S ON VIDEO JUST ON, UH, AUDIO, BUT, UH, ITEM THREE IS

[3. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider funding for Night Vision Goggles for the Kaufman County Swat Team through Homeland Security Grant Funding.]

SHERIFF, I DON'T SEE YOUR FACE, BUT UH, LOOK, ABBY, ARE YOU WITH US ON AUDIO? YES SIR.

UM, WELL, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT THIS ITEM.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE'VE COME TO YOU ON THIS GRANT.

UH, SOME MORE FUNDING COME AVAILABLE.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS, IS TO APPROVE THE SCREEN AGAIN FOR ANOTHER SEVEN, WHICH WILL GIVE US A TOTAL OF 12, UH, FOR OUR TECH TEAM FOR NOT VISION GOGGLES.

FOUR, SHERIFF BEAVERS DISCUSS, CONSIDER ENTERING INTO AN INTER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT.

UM, OKAY.

QUESTIONS.

AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS A FEW TIMES.

I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING.

YOU WANT TO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTION, HER EMOTION.

IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM THREE? I'LL MAKE A PERSON TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA TO PROVE, UH, THAT UH, FUNDING FOR NOT VISION GOGGLES IS YOUR SECOND.

OH, SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

UH, DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'D PROBABLY BE BETTER FOR THEM TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL.

JUST CAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

PEOPLE MAY BE LISTENING AND NOT SEEING.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, DO THAT.

VOTE AGAIN.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER.

HI, COMMISSIONER CAGED.

[4. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider entering into an Interlocal cooperation agreement between Kaufman County and Forney Independent School District for Law Enforcement Services.]

KAUFMAN COUNTY AND FORNEY, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES.

YES, SIR.

JUDGE, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF FOR DISPATCH SERVICES.

YOU KNOW, FORNEY IS, UH, CREATING THEIR OWN ISD, UH, AND THEY'RE NEEDING A DISPATCH SERVICE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO MOU, WHICH I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF IT.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM, UH, DISPATCH SERVICES UNTIL, UH, I THINK THEY'RE TALKING DOWN THE ROAD OF A COUPLE OF YEARS OF HAVING THEIR OWN DISPATCH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM THE SURFACE AND HELP THEM WITH THE TRANSITION THROUGH THIS.

AND THIS IS JUST PART OF IT.

WE NEED TO, AND REBECCA HAS, UH, LEGAL HAS LOOKED AT ALL THE DOCUMENT.

UH, Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF OR FOR REBECCA? IF NOT, IS THERE A MARK? IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM FOUR? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S

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ISLAND SMITH DISCUSSING CONSIDER CONTRACT OPTIONS FOR THE 2019 KAUFLIN COUNTY BOND PROGRAM CONSULTING ENGINEERING SERVICES.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

UH, LET'S DO IT AGAIN.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER.

HI COMMISSIONER.

KATE'S, UH, WE HAVE FOUR EYES.

THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM FIVE

[5. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider contract options for the 2019 Kaufman County Bond Program -Consulting Engineering Services - ROAD, BRIDGE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT]

YOU RECALL WE, THIS, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION IN OUR LAST MEETING.

I THINK THAT WAS OUR LAST IN PERSON MEETING ACTUALLY.

SO A RAILING IF YOU'RE WITH US, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ITEM FIVE? SURE.

RON SULLIVAN AND I DID MEET WITH MATT ATKINS WITH TMP.

WE'VE ALSO GONE OVER THE SCOPE OF SERVICES.

GOOD MORNING.

THERE WE GO.

RON SULLIVAN AND I HAVE BEEN GOING OVER THE SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR COUNTY ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

I DID SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION THROUGH EMAIL YESTERDAY.

YOU JUST KIND OF BREAKING DOWN WHAT THOSE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE LOWER.

UM, THE MAIN THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD IS YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT LAST TIME WE WERE ASKING IF WE WANTED TO GO OUT FOR A SEPARATE ARIK HE ON THIS ITEM, THIS IS A COMPLETE LIST OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.

JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WOULD STILL BE SEPARATE FROM INDIVIDUAL ROADS THAT WOULD NEED ENGINEERING.

SO IT, WE'RE JUST HERE TO DISCUSS THE OPTIONS, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE HANDLED OUT OF THE COUNTY, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE HANDLED WITHIN IN HOUSE.

UM, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS TO THIS LIST AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN USING AN EXISTING CONTRACT OR A NEW RFQ.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

LET'S START WITH THAT.

LET'S START, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'LL MODERATE.

LET'S DO, WE'LL JUST GO ONE THROUGH FOUR.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT, BUT YOU KNOW, I GUESS THIS KIND OF, I GUESS CON CONVERSATIONS LAST TIME WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, TALKING IT OUT WHERE IT WAS WHEN WE HAVE A ENGINEER ON STAFF AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT A, A, A CONTRACT WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM.

IT JUST MADE SENSE TO JUST STAY WHERE WE'RE AT AND UTILIZE OUR, OUR ENGINEER THAT WE HAVE IN HOUSE FOR THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM TO HELP US MANAGE THESE ROADS.

AND, AND IT JUST, THE DISCUSSION KIND OF LED TO THIS.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A REFLECTION ON ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

IT'S JUST AS WE TALKED IT OUT JUST TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT, IF WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE ONES THAT WE HAVE CONTRACT WITH AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS, WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEER AND WELL THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

PHILLIPS.

I'M KIND OF GOING WITH WHAT MIKE SAID.

UM, AND THIS KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO USE THAT.

I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT ALL THIS THAT SHE PRINTED OUT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS ON THERE THAT, UM, WHEN IT SAYS ALL THE COSTS, IS THAT RIGHT THAT'S IN HERE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, THE WAY THEIR SCOPE IS? YES.

WHAT HE'S DOING IS PROPOSING, WELL, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO, THE SERVICES AGREEMENT, THE STEPS OF THE DESIGN IS LIKE TOTALLY ZAN WAS $350,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE WERE DOING THE TOP OF THAT.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE ONE I'M READING? I'M TRYING TO READ IT ON MY PHONE BECAUSE I'M USING MY OTHER ONE FROM A ZOOM CONFERENCE.

SO WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY OUR CURRENT ENGINEERING FIRM IS A MAXIMUM MONTHLY BUDGET TO OVERSEE THE ENTIRE COUNTY ROAD PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE MEETING WITH Y'ALL DOING THE MASTER SCHEDULING, DEVELOPING THE ROAD MATRIX, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE ROADS ARE GROUPED TOGETHER WHENEVER WE GO OUT FOR BID.

AND THEN ALSO OVERSEEING THE, WHAT WE WOULD DO FROM THIS POINT FORWARD IS EACH INDIVIDUAL ROAD WOULD HAVE ITS OWN TASK ORDER AND WOULD BE HANDLED INDIVIDUALLY BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER AND THE ENGINEERING.

AND THEN JUST BE ON JUST THAT ROAD.

WELL, I MEAN, TRYING TO SEE AGAIN GOES WAYNE COMES AWAY AND THEN I HAVE TO GO GO ALL THE WAY BACK THROUGH IT.

BUT ON THEIR, ON THEIR, UM, MONTHLY COST.

I WAS LOOKING AT THAT NOW LOST IT AGAIN.

THE UH,

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AND BRANDON AGAIN, THE HOURLY IS HOURLY, RIGHT? WITH A MAXIMUM, RIGHT? YES.

YEAH, YEAH.

WELL YOU'RE RIGHT WITH A MAXIMUM.

BUT I MEAN THEY HAD A MONTHLY CHARGE.

THEY HAD A MONTHLY CHARGE TO MANAGE THE WHOLE THING.

WHAT'S THE MONTH THAT THEY CHARGE? AGAIN, OUR CURRENT CONSULTING ENGINEERING FIRM DOES NOT HAVE A KERMIT CHARGE.

WE HAVE A MAXIMUM BUDGET OF 8,000 PER MONTH.

PER MONTH.

THAT'S THE NUMBER I WAS LOOKING FOR.

AND I COULDN'T FIND IT AGAIN.

I'D ALREADY LOST IT AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE'RE PAYING THEM FROM NOW ON.

THERE'S A FINALS OVER EVERY SINGLE MONTH, WHETHER THEY DO ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S JUST IF WE'RE USING THEM THAT MONTH.

WELL, YES, THAT, THAT'S TO OVERSEE, UM, ALL OF THE PROGRAM AND HE'S PROPOSING THAT THIS PORTION OF THE WORK WOULD BE DONE BY DECEMBER, SO WE SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THE ROADS BID OUT.

WE SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, THE REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BY DECEMBER.

I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

I MIGHT COME BACK TO IT BECAUSE, UH HUH.

I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

LET, LET TERRY TALK ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE.

I DO AGREE WITH MIKE, BUT ONE QUESTION I HAVE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS NOT HAPPENING UNTIL DECEMBER.

IS IT GOING TO BE THAT LONG BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO START WORKING OF THIS YEAR? NO.

NO SIR.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START WORKING WITH THE ROADS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, WHENEVER YOU ARE READY AND WE CAN IMMEDIATELY START, BEGIN WORK ON THE GEO TECH AND ENGINEERING, ET CETERA, BECAUSE WE WOULD CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE.

HE'S SAYING THAT THE PORTION AND THE BACKGROUND WORK WOULD BE DONE BY DECEMBER.

ALL THE BID DOCUMENTS WOULD BE OUT.

HE WOULD BE FINISHED WITH THIS PORTION OF IT.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT NO, I DO AGREE WITH MIKE AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE IN PLACE.

THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB FOR US.

I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT, PUT IT OUT TO ANYBODY ELSE IF WE'RE HAPPY WHAT THESE GUYS ARE DOING FOR US.

AND OF COURSE WE DID HIRE RON TO WORK WITH US ON THIS AS WELL.

NO, SO SEE WHAT KEN HAS SAID ABOUT IT.

UH, I ESSENTIALLY AM IN AGREEMENT.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR OTHER, UH, ROAD CONSULTANT, UH, JOHN POLLSTER AND UH, AND JOHN, UH, WAS VERY POSITIVE THAT OUR EXISTING, UM, THAT OUR EXISTING ENGINEERING FIRM, UH, IN CONCERT WITH OUR COUNTY ENGINEER HAD THE CAPABILITY TO OVERSEE THIS.

UM, SO I FEEL PRETTY, PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT THAT'D BE A SUCCESSFUL JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN THOSE GUYS.

I DO THINK RAELYNN DATA OR LET ME JUST ASK IT THIS WAY.

UH, YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH POLLSTER, WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, THE BENEFITS OF GROUPING OUR ROADS.

SO, UM, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE OPEN AT LEAST TO THE CONCEPT THAT RATHER THAN PAYING, UH, TO ENGINEER EACH INDIVIDUAL ROAD THAT, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT PROBABLY CAN BE, UH, EFFECTIVELY DONE BY IN A GROUP AND YOU KNOW, IN, IN GROUPING OUR ROADS.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST EVALUATION PIECES THAT THEY WOULD COMPLETE IS TO SIT DOWN AND MEET WITH FIRST JUST THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN WITH EACH COMMISSIONER AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY BID OUT AND, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE BEST QUALITY PLUS PROCESSING FOR ALL OF THE ROADS.

AND SO THEN LET ME JUST GO BACK TO WHAT CARRIE WAS ASKING ABOUT BECAUSE I GOT JUST A TAD CONFUSED.

SORRY.

UH HUH.

THE BIDDING PROCESS FOR THE ACTUAL, UH, THE ACTUAL ROAD CONSTRUCTION VENDORS WON'T BE FINALIZED UNTIL DECEMBER.

IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT, NO, NO, THIS DECEMBER DATE WAS SIMPLY PUT IN THERE BY OUR CURRENT FIRM.

I'M ASSUMING THAT MOST OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT WOULD BE COMPLETE AND WE WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT IN CONSTRUCTION IF THE TASK ORDER FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

SO THAT'S JUST REALLY THE, THE, THE BREADTH OR THE SCOPE OF THE, OF THE ACTION.

YEAH, JUST THE CURRENT BUDGET.

UH, OUTSIDE THAT 8,000 CAP OR IS IT INCLUDED IN OUR 8,000 CAP? SO THE INDIVIDUAL ROAD ENGINEERING WILL BE ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FEE.

AND UH, TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UM, QUESTION REGARDING OUR, OUR CAP OF 8,000 THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM NOW.

WELL, THIS ROAD CONSTRUCTION CONSULTING B AND AGAIN, I'M SORRY IF YOU ALREADY ANSWERED THIS.

WILL THIS BE ABOVE OR IN ADDITION TO THAT 8,000 CAMERAS, IS THIS,

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SO THIS IS SIMPLY FOR THE OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRM TO OVERSEE THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION OF ALL COUNTY ROADS AND TO DO THE REPORTING AND, UM, ASSIST CITY OR I'M SORRY, COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.

SO AS YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL ROAD THAT NEEDS SPECIFIC ENGINEERING WORK DONE, THEN THAT WOULD BE A TASK ORDER COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.

SO THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, UM, SO I'M KIND OF SEEING THAT THERE ARE THREE FUNCTIONS THAT THE ENGINEERING FIRM HANDLES.

ONE IS WHAT WE CONTRACT WITH THEM NOW FOR OUR ROUTINE, UM, SUBDIVISION, UH, EVALUATION, THAT KIND OF THING, WHICH, WHICH REALLY THE $8,000 PER MONTH CAP IS SORT OF DIRECTED AT.

IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

SO YOU STILL HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL DUTY, UH, WITHIN THEIR EXISTING CONTRACT TO OVERSEE THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.

AND THEN THE THIRD WOULD BE AS YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL ROAD THAT NEEDS ONE-ON-ONE ENGINEERING.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT'S KEPT AT THE 8,000, AND THEN THEN, UH, UH, ANY, ANY, UH, ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT ENGINEERING TASKINGS UH, RELATED TO A SPECIFIC ROAD.

THERE'S A SEPARATE BILLING.

YES, SIR.

SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DRAG THAT OUT.

I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED.

WELL THAT BEING SAID, UH, PARTICULARLY SINCE I THINK THAT WE'VE ALL, WE'VE ALL NOTED AND DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF OUR ROADS WILL NOT REQUIRE A VERY, VERY DETAILED ENGINEERING SUPPORT.

UH, I THINK THIS IS A, IS A GOOD WAY TO GO.

SO I, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF IT.

I THINK, UH, AS THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE INDICATED.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? JUDGE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR RAELYNN IF THAT'S OKAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

OH YEAH.

AND I'M ACTUALLY, RATHER THAN WHILE SHE'S ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, ACTUALLY, WHAT WOULD EMOTIONAL BE IN THIS, BUT GO AHEAD REBECCA.

SO MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE CAP LANGUAGE, I NEED TO MAKE SURE TO GET THAT TASK ORDER BACK AND GROUP THROUGH LEGAL FIRST BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S READING RIGHT NOW, UM, IT CAN EXCEED THAT CAP.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO TIGHTEN THAT LANGUAGE.

AND THEN THE OTHER OF IT IS JUST A BUDGETARY QUESTION ON THE, UM, GEO-TECH COSTS THAT'S NOT INCLUDED RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S I, FROM WHAT I GATHER, IT'S, IT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT PLANNING.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WASN'T A PROXY FOR THAT OR IF THE COURT ALREADY HAD THAT BUDGETED OR NOT.

SO THAT IS A QUESTION FOR AS FAR AS THE BOND FINANCING AND AS FAR AS THE BOND MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR EACH COMMISSIONER.

AND THERE IS A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE ENGINEERING LINE ITEM COVERS COUNTY ROADS AS WELL AS THE OTHER ON AND OFF SYSTEM PROJECTS OR IF THIS ENGINEERING COST WOULD COME FROM THE INDIVIDUAL AMOUNTS GIVEN TO THE PRECINCTS FOR THEIR ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

AND I, I WASN'T REAL SURE HOW THAT BUDGET WAS LAID OUT FOR EACH COMMISSIONER.

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR CONTRACT PURPOSES, HOW TO WRITE IT.

IF I SHOULD PUT A CAP IN THERE REGARDING GEO-TECH COSTS BY PRECINCT OR OVERALL DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH IT IS, THE GEO TECH WILL BE BY PRECINCT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A SERVICE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED ON INDIVIDUAL ROAD BASIS, NOT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.

SO THAT THAT WOULD BE A PROCESSING THAT WE WOULD SEE BEFOREHAND BEFORE APPROVING THE TASK ORDER.

AND SO THE 8,000 IS SPLIT BY BETWEEN EACH PRECINCT EVERY MONTH? YES.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A TOTAL MONTHLY COST EVERY MONTH UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF THE MONEY BACK ADDRESS, $8,000 RIGHT UP TO 8,000 AND WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING SPENDING THAT MUCH PER MONTH.

BUT THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE, WELL WAIT, WHEN WE GET DOWN INTO THE, TO THE DIFFERENT THINGS, I GUESS THAT I KEEP LOOKING AT THAT AND I KEEP COMING BACK TO LIKE THE PRE CONCEPT DESIGN.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU $35,000 COME OUT THERE AND PRE-CON SAMPLE DESIGN.

TOTAL OF $350,000 TO DESIGN THE ROAD.

BECAUSE, AND THEN THEY'D CHARGE YOU DESIGN 30 2080 2000 SO IT'D BE A

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RIGHT.

AND THEN SPATIAL, CIVIL ENGINEERING, AND THEN YOU GET INTO LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECT AND ALL THAT DIFFERENT STUFF AND YOU ADD ANOTHER 69,500 RIGHT.

AYE.

I WONDER IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I'M TRYING TO FIND IT.

THE CONTRACT FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.

I NEED THOSE NUMBERS FOR THIS, RIGHT? YEAH.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND DO LANDSCAPE AND ALL MY ROUND CHANGE IS DIFFERENT WHERE I'M JUST LOOKING AT .

I'M SAYING, WHOA, THAT'S EXPENSIVE.

AND ME GOING THERE FOR A MINUTE.

I TELL YOU, IT'S LIKE, WOW.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

WELL, I GUESS, I GUESS THE WOOD WOOD ON THE $8,000 REALLY OUR ENGINEER IS GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF THAT AND WE'RE JUST PAYING THEM TO CONSULT WITH OUR ANGEL.

WE NEED TO, OKAY.

I'M GOING A LOT BETTER.

I DIDN'T LIKE THIS OTHER, I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP.

IT'S SO SMALL ON HERE AND I'M LOOKING AND I'M TRYING TO STRAIN THE SEEDS.

YOU NEED TO GO OVER AND GIVE A HIGHER MAGNIFICATION SKEET NOW I NEED A BIGGER PHONE.

I NEED IT.

I NEED ANOTHER SCREEN.

ZOOM.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET ME ONE MORE.

SO I HAVE TWO SCREENS.

I CAN SEE IT ALL.

UNDERSTAND, I HAVE A MIRROR, A FOLLOWUP QUESTION.

UH, SO IN DISCUSSING THE $8,000, THE POTENTIAL $8,000 A MONTH FEE, A JUDGE, I HATE TO BRING THIS UP, BUT ISN'T THERE A PORTION OF THE ROAD BOND MONEY THAT IS VESTED IN THE JUDGES OFFICE AS WELL? SO SHOULDN'T THAT FEE THEN BE FIVE? I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE NONE OF THAT STUFF, NONE OF THE, I BELIEVE ANY OF THOSE, THOSE, THAT 200 AND HUNDRED $50,000 IN PROGRAM MANAGEMENT I THINK IS DIRECTED AT, UH, THE INTENTION FOR THAT IS TO DIRECT THAT AT TECHSTOP ROAD PROJECTS.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY DETAILED OR ALLOCATED, BUT I CAN'T REALLY GET ANSWERED THE QUESTION FOR SURE.

ONE SUGGESTION MAY BE, UM, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE A MOTION TODAY AS LONG AS STAFF KNOWS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT FOR RFQ OR AN ADDITIONAL CONSULTING ENGINEERING FIRM AND I CAN GET WITH LEGAL AND WE CONFIRM IT, THIS TASK ORDER SIMPLY FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU OR APPROVAL BOARD.

IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT, UH, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THE CONVERSATION.

I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, NOBODY WANTS TO GO OUT FOR RFQ.

AND, UH, BASED ON WHAT RAELYNN JUST SAID AND THEN BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT REBECCA INJECTED, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY URGENCY FOR US TO ACT ON THIS ITEM TODAY.

CAN THAT THEY'RE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND IF WE WANTED TO GO OUT FOR RFQ, UH, WE KNOW WE WOULD NEED TO GET ROLLING BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE, BUT THE CONVERSATION IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT'S, THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT THE BEST OPTION ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU GUYS SAY.

AND, AND MAYBE, UH, MAYBE IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE, UH, WHEN WE DO ACT OR MAYBE BEFORE, UH, WE VOTE NEXT TIME OR WHENEVER IT COMES BACK UP.

UH, MAYBE IT'D BE HELPFUL IF OUR, IF OUR COUNTY ENGINEER, OUR CONTRACT ENGINEER, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD BE PRESENT AS WELL AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.

NO, AND HE ABSOLUTELY CAN.

I DIDN'T INVITE HIM TO PARTICIPATE TODAY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL HAD, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU NEEDED TO DECIDE WHICH DIRECTION TO GO.

YEAH, I, I WOULD JUST, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WHAT THAT 8,000, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WILL BE ADMINISTERED AND WHAT THAT'S DIRECTED AT AND, AND THAT HE UNDERSTANDS, UH, DIRECTLY FROM US WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE AS WELL.

WHAT I WILL DO THIS SCHEDULE AND TO HAVE HIM COME BACK ON THE 28TH AND POSSIBLY THAT AFTERNOON WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START MEETING WITH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GET STARTED ON THE LIST FOLLOWING THE TASK ORDER THAT WORK, WHICH FEELS GOOD TO ME AT WORK.

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I THINK, I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEN IS A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM FIVE.

I'LL MAKE IT, I'LL GO YET.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER IN CASE TO TABLE ITEM FIVE AND THE SECOND IS FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, HI.

SORRY, I'M NOT USED TO THIS, BUT I, I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE LISTENING, SEEING THIS PICTURE.

SO, UH, I'LL DO THIS AGAIN.

MAYBE I'LL REMEMBER NEXT TIME.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

MR. BARBER, I SEE YOU'RE HEARING BARELY.

HE'S WAVING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S NOT TALKING TO COMMISSIONER KATE.

[6. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approving Architectural Services Contract for 2019 Kaufman County Bond Program - Design Services -Animal Shelter (RFQ 20-11) between Quorum and Kaufman County]

20 DISCUSSED THROUGH DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVING ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR 2019 COFFIN COUNTY BOND PROGRAM DESIGN SERVICES, ANIMAL SHELTER, RFQ 2011 BETWEEN QUORUM AND KAUFMAN COUNTY, MARYLAND.

HEY, THIS IS THE FINAL CONTRACT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY LEGAL BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND FORUM.

WE HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS WELL AS THE SCHEDULE TO BEGIN WORK ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

JUST WANTED TO BRING THESE BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW, UM, WHAT HAPPENED FOLLOWING THE NEGOTIATION AND THE INITIAL MEETINGS.

QUESTIONS FOR RAELYNN I GUESS THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT I WAS LOOKING AT THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PROMISED LAND THAT HAS THE COST IN IT.

WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW CONTRACTS.

THIS ONE IS ON PAGE 20.

THAT GIVES YOU THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THE GET.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

LET'S START WITH A NEEDS ASSESSMENT BEGINNING REALLY SOON.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT CONTRACT WITH THE ARC? WITH THE QUORUM? NOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

COMMISSIONER BARBER, UH, MOVES TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH QUORUM.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE UNLESS I'M SORRY.

HERE WE GO AGAIN.

MR. HUNT, MISSIONARY PHILLIPS.

UH, MR. BARBER.

HI MR K IT'S FOUR I'S THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM SEVEN,

[7. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approving Contract for 2019 Kaufman County Bond Program - Facilities Master Plan (RFP 20-09) between HOK and Kaufman County]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING CONTRACT FOR 2019 COUNTY BOND PROGRAM FACILITIES MASTER PLAN BETWEEN HOK AND KAUFMAN COUNTY.

RIGHT ONE.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE FINAL CONTRACT APPROVED BY LEGAL.

I IN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH HOK, WE DID DETERMINE THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO BREAK THIS DOWN BY LOCATION RATHER THAN PERCENTAGE AND TOTAL PROJECT.

SO PAGE FIVE OF THE EXHIBIT HAS A BREAKDOWN OF EACH OF THE ADDRESSES AND FACILITIES THAT WE WOULD EVENTUALLY WANT TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN THAT NOT THAT WE HAD IN ALL AT ONE TIME.

SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE LOCATIONS.

THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I REALLY WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT THIS CONTRACT.

YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

UH, JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE ANCIENT HISTORY ON THIS IDEA WAS THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH RATE OF THE COUNTY, WE'VE, WELL, THIS CURRENT SITUATION IN A NUMBER OF OUR FACILITIES, OUR SUB COURTHOUSES PARTICULAR MMM.

WE STARTED THAT WE, WE FELT LIKE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO IN AND START, UH, SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY WITH, UNTIL GETTING A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT THE NEEDS WERE GOING TO BE, UH, SOME YEARS OUT.

AND THEY STARTED OFF AS LIKE THE BIG, BIG NUMBER BECAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR, LIKE THE WHOLE COUNTY.

AND SO RAYLAND HAD HER, DID REALLY GOOD WORK ON THIS OUT A WAY TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALLER PIECES THAT WE COULD HAVE.

WE COULD HAVE FACILITIES NEEDS, STUDY BY FACILITY AS WE FELT LIKE WE WERE READY TO ACT ON WHAT THEY TAUGHT US OR WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THEM.

SO, UM, THIS HAS BEEN, THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT WORK ON RAILROADS.

SPARKING

[00:30:03]

GOOD.

A GOOD, A GOOD WAY TO GET WHAT WE NEED WITHOUT GOING OVERBOARD IN A GREAT BIG PROJECT.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT, THE QUESTIONS TO RECOMMEND ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN, BUT I KNOW THIS IS ON THE CONTRACT, BUT I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS FACILITIES DIRECTOR IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH ARCHITECT, RIGHT? YEP, ABSOLUTELY.

THE INFORMATION AND STUFF.

ABSOLUTELY.

SORT OF LIKE WITH WHAT WE, UH, THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS FOR THE OTHER, FOR THE TUBES, FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER, THE ANIMAL SHELTER, GIVING REALLY GOOD INPUT TO KEEP THE ARCHITECTS FOCUSED ON, KEEP ME IN CHECK, MAKING SURE, YEAH.

AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT SIGN IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO MAINTAIN AND WE DON'T SEND TO AUSTRIA TO GET A CEILING TILE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BOBBY'S JOB.

PRACTICAL INPUT.

OKAY, JUDGE, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

IT'S REALLY, EVEN RELATIVE TO THE CONTRACT, WE JUST APPROVED A MAN WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE CONTRACT NUMBERS, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BIG NUMBERS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T DONE OUR RESEARCH.

AND WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE OF RAELYNN AND HER SHOP, I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO KNOW REALLY FOR THE RECORD THAT, THAT THESE KINDS OF SERVICES AND FEES ARE ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS. THAT'S THE RATE.

IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS, VERY TECHNICAL, A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS STUFF HAS TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S JUST SORT OF THE REASON, OR AT LEAST ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY, WHY A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS SO COSTLY AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS, THIS BASELINE COMPETENCY IN ALL OUR DESIGNS AND MMM, YEAH.

IN EVERY, YEAH.

IN EVERY CASE THERE'S A, THEY HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS STUFF.

JUST, UH, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO ARCHITECTS.

I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT A TEAM OF PEOPLE AND BALD, SO IT, UH, AND THE THERE.

AND THE REALITY IS WE, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION PARTICULARLY BUILDING SOMETHING IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T SERVE OUR NEEDS.

YOU KNOW, WE SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY BUILDING SOMETHING OR ADDING TO A BUILDING AND THEN TWO OR THREE YEARS LATER WE REALIZED THAT WE, WE UNDERSIZED IT OR DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T TAKE WHERE THE GROWTH WAS GOING TO OCCUR TO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, WE DON'T HAVE GOOD GUIDANCE.

WE CAN END UP WASTING SOME MONEY.

AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, I THINK, UH, THE COURT ALL AGREES THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SPEND COUNTING MONEY IN THE COUNTY, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THESE KIND OF CAPABILITIES RESIDENT WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO, UH, REALLY FOR THE, THE, THE LONGTERM NATURE OF THIS KIND OF INVESTMENT IN THIS KIND OF PROJECT, UH, HAVING THESE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS HANDLE THIS IS JUST AN JUST AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

SO, UH, IF I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I HEAR SOMEBODY, UM, OKAY.

WHAT'S BEFORE US? STAN IS, UH, UH, BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE CONTRACT 2019 KAUFMAN COUNTY BOND PROGRAM FOR FACILITIES MASTER PLAN BETWEEN HOK AND COCHRAN COUNTY.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT IS, I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

I'M GONNA.

I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY GET IT RIGHT.

UH, ANY, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

A LITTLE WALK AS AS IT IS, IT'S A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT AND TOOK SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, SCRUTINY AND DISCUSSION WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM, BETWEEN US AND THEM.

UH, YES.

SUCH A FAINT VOICE.

INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS NEXT ONE IN THEN BEFORE REBECCA PROMPTS ME AFTER THIS ITEM.

WE'LL UH, PAUSE JUST A SECOND AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE.

GIVE US A THREE MINUTE, UH, MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO ITEM EIGHT

[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approving Contract for 2019 Kaufman County Bond Program - Design Services for Justice Center (RFP 20-09} between HOK and Kaufman County]

IS DISCUSSED.

CONSIDER APPROVING CONTRACTS IN 2019 KAUFMAN COUNTY BOND PROGRAM DESIGN SERVICES FOR JUSTICE CENTER RFP 2009 BETWEEN HOK AND COFFIN COUNTY, RIGHT ONE.

AND FINALLY WE HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH HOK FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.

AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH LEGAL AND WE'VE APPROVED THE SCHEDULE AND THE PRICING THAT'S AVAILABLE IN EXHIBIT ONE.

THIS TOOK

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IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONTRACT 2019 COBB COUNTY BOND.

REMEMBER DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.

THAT'S RFP 20.

OH NINE AND HR COMMISSIONER CATES.

SECOND FROM WHO WAS THAT? BARBARA? NEVER.

I DON'T KNOW WHY HE COME WITH ME, BUT I'M SPEAKING OF.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, THAT'S FOUR EYES.

UM, I'LL SPEAK TO NATHAN OVER HERE.

NATHAN, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING TO HEAR ANYONE THAT WOULD CARE TO COMMENT? THREE UNMUTING OF PHONES OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE? UH, SO YOU HAVE THE OPTION, I THINK OF RAISING YOUR HAND IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK.

WE ONLY SHOW THREE ATTENDEES ON THIS MEETING THAT ARE NOT PANELISTS.

UM, SO JUST GIVING ONE SECOND FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GIVE US A THREE MINUTE COMMENT.

THIS IS RYAN ON HIS LAST ITEM OF THE DAY RAILWAY.

THEY'LL KNOW.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE.

[9. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider the return of Asset #12608 for the lease/purchase of a New 2020 John Deere 672G in the amount of $271,321.00; utilizing Buyboard Contract #597-19; for Precinct #1]

CONSIDER THE RETURN OF ASSET 12 SIX OH EIGHT FOR THE LEASE PURCHASE OF A NEW 2020 JOHN DEERE SIX 72 G IN THE AMOUNT OF $271,321 UTILIZING BOB WARD CONTRACT FIVE 97 19.

THAT'S FOR PRECINCT ONE.

RAYMOND, IT SAYS TO WAIT TO GET THE NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR PRECINCT ONE.

AND JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE WOULD BE RETURNING AN ITEM BACK TO THE DEALER.

UH, QUESTIONS.

MY LEASE IS AT AN END AND I'M JUST RENEWING ANOTHER LACE WITH A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

SEPARATE.

WE'RE TURNING THE OTHER GRIDER AND WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER RIGHT? NO.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, DO YOU CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, AS WE DO THE LEASE.

UH HUH.

UH, MAKES A MOTION THAT WE, UH, RETURN THAT ITEM FROM LACE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL WAS THAT, I'M SORRY.

I SAID, WE'RE RETURNING IT IN.

WE'RE ALL ON.

WE'RE ALSO RELEASING ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

YEP.

OKAY, SO THAT'S CLARIFICATION ON YOUR EMOTION STATE.

YOU STILL HAVE THE SECOND THING.

GOT, YEAH.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND DISCUSSION? UH, MR. PHILLIPS.

TO ENTER INTO THAT LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN W AND OUR COMPANY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

HI, COMMISSIONER CAGED.

UH, THAT'S FOUR EYES.

THAT MOTION CARRIES, UM,

[10. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider entering into a lease agreement between Kaufman County Pet. 4 and Borders and Long Oil Co., Inc.]

10 DISCUSS.

CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR AND BORDERS AND LONG OIL INC.

UH, COMMISSIONED KATE'S.

THIS IS A, THIS IS A LEASE THAT WE WANT TO ENTER INTO, UH, FOR A, UH, APPROXIMATELY A FOUR, I THINK 4.2 ACRE TRACT, UH, LOCATED IN THE SCURRY FACILITY.

UH, AS I'VE COMMENTED BEFORE, OUR PRECINCT HAS GROWN SO LARGE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES NUMBER ONE OUT OF STORAGE FOR STORAGE SPACE FOR ROAD MATERIAL.

AND NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO TRUCK A LOT OF MATERIAL A LONG WAY FROM CAMP.

SO, UH, THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WILL, UH, BEGIN TO UTILIZE TO STORE, UH, ROAD MATERIAL, UM, WRAP AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, SO $2,500 A YEAR LEASE, IT'S VERY CENTRALLY LOCATED FOR US.

AND, UH, WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ADDITION TO OUR EFFICIENCY.

SO I, UH, ABSOLUTELY QUESTIONS JUDGE, I'D MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE, WE APPROVED THE LEASE, UH, ENTERING INTO THIS.

LISA HAS WRITTEN, I HAVE, I'M SORRY, JUST ONE COMMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT THIS LEASE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BETWEEN W AND OUR PROPERTIES IN KAUFMAN COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LISTED PROPERTY OWNER.

VERY WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER CAGE, YOUR MOTION IS

[00:40:01]

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

DBA IS BORDERS.

AND UH, IS THAT'S THE MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? OH, SECOND SECOND.

WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, GUSHING COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PHILLIPS.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, THAT'S FOUR I'S.

ITEM 11 SKUS APPROVING LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

[11. Discuss/Consider approving line item transfers.]

UH, I'M STANDING IN FOR, UH, OUR AUDITOR THIS MORNING.

UH, WE HAVE A $4,000 LINE.

I DON'T TRANSFER THAT YOU WERE PROVIDED BY EMAIL.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THEY ARE, YOU'D HAVE TO DIRECT THEM TO COMMISSIONER BARBARA CAUSE IT WAS HIS TRANSFER.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE ON TRANSFERS IS PRESENTED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE CAN WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO STAND IN FOR THE AUDITOR ON THIS.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, THAT'S FOUR I'S.

THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM 12.

[12. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION.

WE HAVE A TOTAL CLAIM FOR PAYMENT OF $3,334,695 IN 15 CENTS.

UM, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTEN A DETAIL ON THAT AND UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE ITEMS? IF NOT, IS THE PROMOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND POINT.

AND THEY SURE.

HUNT DISCUSSION.

MR. HAUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, THAT'S FOR EYES.

COMMISSIONER, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 13.

[13. Adjourn Regular Meeting.]

THE AREN'T MISSES.

THEY'LL VISIT WITH JOE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS WANTS TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

THAT'S HIS MOTION.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER BARBER AND THIS COMMISSIONER HUNT.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, THAT'S FOR EYES.