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ARE WE READY?

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OKAY.

THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE COP AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.

IT'S TUESDAY, APRIL 28, 2020 9:00 AM AND WE'RE IN THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM.

UH, WE HAVE ALL MEMBERS OF THE COURT PRESENT.

SO WE, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, WE HAVE A PART IN THIS AGENDA WHICH BE CALLED FOR REMARKS.

VISITORS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, CARDS FROM ANYBODY, SO I PRESUME WE DON'T HAVE ANY, SOMEBODY SHOWS UP LATER.

WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UH, ITEM ONE, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO JUST, UH, UNDER CORRESPONDENCE.

I'D LIKE TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY.

I SUSPECT EVERY BODY IS, OR CERTAINLY ALL OF US UP HERE HAVE READ, READ THAT OR WATCHED IT YESTERDAY.

UM, A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS FROM THAT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE AWAY IS THAT THE GOVERNOR TWICE SAID THAT HIS, UH, THAT HIS ORDER, WHAT HE PRODUCED YESTERDAY OVERRIDES LOCAL AUTHORITY.

SO, UH, THAT MAY BE NEWS TO SOME PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT NEWS TO US, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE GOVERNOR, WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS THAT AUTHORITY TO MAKE THESE RULINGS OVER WHAT BUSINESSES CAN OPEN UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS AND UH, THAT FALLS INTO.

HE IS A 40.

THE OTHER THING THAT HE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT I'D LIKE TO JUST TOUCH ABOUT IS THAT, UH, AS WE DO MORE TESTING, WE HAVEN'T PROBABLY NOT HAD VERY MANY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY ACTUALLY TESTED.

UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT RAMPING UP THE TESTING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THE STATE ALSO.

AND I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THOSE POSITIVE NUMBERS WILL, IF YOU START TESTING MORE PEOPLE, YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE POSITIVE CASES.

IT SEEMS LOGICAL AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WON'T BE ALARMED BY THAT CAUSE IT WON'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE OPENINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, THE BUSINESS OPENINGS, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THOSE ARE CREATING MORE CASES.

THERE JUST BE MORE CASES CREATED THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE NUMBER OF TESTS.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY THING THEY WANT TO PITCH IN ON THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE OR THE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE GOVERNOR? JUDGE, CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE COUNTY'S, UH, REOPENING COMMITTEE AND WHERE THAT STANDS, WHAT THE, WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT IS OR WHAT WE DID, AND THIS DOES PERTAIN TO THE GOVERNOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT.

WHAT THE GOVERNOR DID YESTERDAY, SORT OF STYMIES WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN THE COUNTY.

WHAT WE WERE DOING IN THE COUNTY WAS WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT 45 DIFFERENT BUSINESS AND CHURCH, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT DIFFERENT FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY, UH, RESTAURANT OWNERS, RETAIL SHOP OWNERS, UH, PERSONAL SERVICE OWNERS.

UH, THEY'D BEEN COORDINATING THROUGH, UH, THE COUNTY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE, UH, PITCHING IDEAS AMONGST THEMSELVES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A GOOD OPENING PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE.

HAPPY YOU OPEN A RESTAURANT OR YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU OPEN A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

UM, WE DIDN'T EXPECT THE GOVERNOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT TO BE QUITE SO MUCH DETAIL AND UM, BUT HIS, UH, THE PROCEDURES AND THE PROCESSES THAT HE HAD DID, HE SORT OF STYMIED WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THIS GROUP A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO STILL KEEP THOSE GUYS WORKING AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A FINISHED PRODUCT ON FRIDAY.

UM, CAUSE THERE'LL BE SOME, UH, THERE'LL BE SOME NUANCES THAT WON'T BE COVERED IN THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER.

AND, AND HOPEFULLY OUR RESTAURANT OWNERS AND RETAIL SHOP OWNERS AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, UH, THEY'LL HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS IS HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS.

IS THERE A, UH, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UH, WE'RE, DESPITE READING 56 PAGES OF THE GOVERNOR'S BOOKLET HERE, THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME DETAILS THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY ARE YET TO EMERGE, BUT DOES THIS COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE, IS THERE AN ABILITY FOR SPECIFIC BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIES TO POSE A QUESTION? UH, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THE, UH, THE RACETRACK INDUSTRY, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED, UH, IN THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER.

SO DO WE HAVE SOME ANTICIPATION THAT EITHER WE WILL HAVE COORDINATION WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OR IS THERE SOME WAY THAT THESE SPECIFIC BUSINESSES CAN GET GUIDANCE FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE? I DON'T THINK GOVERNOR, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE SHOULD BE REQUIRED.

I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE AS LONG AS THEY'RE NUANCED THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE RACETRACK, UH, I THINK WE WOULD CONSIDER THE RACETRACK AS AN OUTDOOR SPORTING EVENT AND AS LONG AS THERE ARE NOT MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE GATHERED TOGETHER AT ONE TIME.

UH, IS THAT FOR

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FOUR CONTESTANTS OR DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SPECTATORS AS WELL? HE DIDN'T SPECIFY.

HE SAID FOUR PEOPLE GATHERED TOGETHER.

I WOULD TAKE THAT TO MEAN THAT, UH, THAT THE PEOPLE, IF THERE'S A SPECTATOR GROUP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING.

BUT I DON'T, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LABORIOUS FOR US TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR FOR ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND I THINK WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

I AGREE.

THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT MAYBE THIS COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE BUSINESSES TO DO EITHER POSE A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR AT LEAST FOR CONSIDERATION.

BECAUSE ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE A SPIKE IN RAYANNE RE-INFECTION I THINK WE'RE SEEING A TREND TO SOLELY MOVE TOWARDS REOPENING.

SO I THINK THESE ARE, THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE PREVALENT.

THAT'D BE MORE AND MORE PREVALENT AND THERE'LL BE MORE AND MORE DETAILED.

UH, AND I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAYBE PITCH, IF IT HAS TO DO WITH ONE PARTICULAR KIND OF A BUSINESS, WE MIGHT, UH, THROUGH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MIGHT PITCH THAT BACK TO THE GROUP AND SAY, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FOR THIS KIND OF BUSINESS THAT HERE'S THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE AND THIS IS WHAT OUR OPINION IS THIS MAKE SENSE AND JUST GET UP.

WHAT'S THE BEST MECHANISM TO DO THAT TO FORWARD THOSE QUESTIONS TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? YES.

THE BEST QUESTION, THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO RUN THAT THROUGH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS EVERY DAY AND THEY'LL PROBABLY GET A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE ITEM? ANY OTHER ROUTINE CORRESPONDENTS? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION FROM, FROM OUR HOMEOWNERS GROUP, A COUPLE OF, THEY ALL WANT TO OPEN.

THERE'S ONE BULLET MAY 1ST AND I'M THINKING, SO I SENT IT TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND SEE WHAT HE COULD FIND OUT FROM CDC AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, BUT OUTDOOR SHOULD BE A GREAT PLACE BECAUSE IT HAS A CHLORINE THAT KILLS THE, BUT THE TROUBLE IS I GUESS ALL THE PARENTS SITTING AROUND WATCHING, WELL, WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, I WOULDN'T, I'M HOPING WE GET AN ANSWER BACK REALLY QUICK CAUSE EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT FRIDAY.

SO A LOT.

I BET THAT WE CAN GET AN ANSWER THAT QUICKLY.

YEAH.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER.

IT DOESN'T, I MEAN THERE'S NO WAY, THERE'S NO WAY.

I MEAN THAT BOOK WOULD BE 10,000 PAGES LONG IF THEY TRIED TO ANSWER EVERY CONCEIVABLE QUESTION.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE.

UM,

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

OKAY.

SO MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS A THROUGH I ON THE CONTENTED CONTENT AGENDA, UH, REPORTS BASICALLY FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS.

DOES ANYONE CARE TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE? UH, AS A SEPARATE ITEM? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE SHERIFF WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE, I READ THE ENTIRE REPORT.

BRIAN, COULD YOU JUST COMMENT ON THE IMPACT OF COBIT AT THE JAIL, UM, AND THE, UH, STATE'S, UH, SUSPENSION OF TAKING PRISONERS OVER THE TDC? IS THAT HAVING ANY IMPACT FOR US? LIKE RIGHT NOW, THIS MORNING, UH, WE WERE SETTING ABOUT, UH, THREE 85 OUR NUMBERS DOWN.

NORMALLY WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 420 430.

YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, WE STILL HAVE A FEDERAL INMATES.

UH, SO EVERYTHING IS GOING GOOD, BUT OUR NUMBERS GOING IN CLAM CAUSE THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE SENDING NOBODY TO TDC.

UH, THE IMPACT IS THAT WE'RE QUARANTINED EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN THE JAIL FOR 14 DAYS BEFORE WE ENTER THEM INTO THE POPULATION AND WHICH SINCE MARCH 13, WE'VE BEEN TAKING TEMPERATURE ON ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND EVERYBODY AND WE SANITIZE AND CLEAN ANY HARD SURFACE EVERY FOUR HOURS IN WHICH WE NOW GOT A NEW MACHINE THAT FOGS EVERYTHING.

SO WE'RE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD.

SO IF IT'S A HARD SURFACE CAN BE TOUCHED, WE'RE DOING IT, BUT WE'RE EVALUATING EVERYBODY IN QUARANTINE, EVERYBODY.

AND IF HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES THAT HAS ANY CLOSE CONTACT WITH ANYBODY THAT TESTED AND THEY'RE OFF 14 DAYS, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THE CHANCE OF BRINGING THEM OVER.

WE'RE GOING TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

WE DON'T HAVE AN END DATE FOR THE TDC FREEZE.

THERE'S NOT AN END DATE YET.

OKAY.

I SEND IS THAT OPEN? I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND TELL YOU BECAUSE I'VE TOLD THEM ESSENTIALLY WE GOT THAT BIG BUS CAUSE NORMALLY WE TAKE HOURS TILL ANOTHER LOCATION AND THE TDC BUS PICKS HIM AND MOVES HIM.

I TELL HIM I HAD A 26 PASSENGER BUS.

I'D BE MORE GLAD TO DELIVER THEM TO THE HOSPITAL WHEN THEY'RE READY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY.

SO, UH, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? ALL MAKE SENSE? THE MOTION WE HAD THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER AND KATE'S DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[3. Nehemiah Group; Presentation and status update on the proposed Spradley Farms Project in Kaufman County Pct. 4. ]

NEXT UP.

ITEM THREE, NEHEMIAH GROUP PRESENTATION AND STATUS UPDATE ON THE PROPOSED SPRADLEY FARMS PROJECT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR.

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COMMISSIONER? YEAH, JUDGE, THIS IS JUST A, I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN AWARE THAT, UH, A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, EXISTS HERE IN THE COUNTY, UH, BY THE NEHEMIAH GROUP, UH, SPRADLEY FARMS AND, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME GLITCHES IN THE ROAD, UH, AT THIS POINT AND I THINK THE, THE DEVELOPER JUST WANT TO DO, UH, UH, TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE US THE PARTICULAR STATUS AND THE CONTINUED VIABILITY OF THAT PROJECT.

SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL INTRODUCE MR. JORDAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M JOHN JORDAN.

UM, I'M THE, UH, PROJECT MANAGER FOR NEHEMIAH COMPANY FOR THE SPRADLEY FARMS PROJECT.

AND IF YOU RECALL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, LAST YEAR, WE HAD, UH, PRESENTED TO YOU, UM, OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S UH, RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, 20 AND, UH, FM SEVEN 40 DOWN AT THE SOUTH END OF KAUFFMAN.

UM, THIS PROJECT IS, UM, IS PUT TOGETHER IN THE STYLE OF THE VERIDIAN COMMUNITY, WHICH WE ALSO BUILT.

AND, UM, SOME OF YOU WERE ABLE TO GO DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT COMMUNITY WITH US.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.

UH, WE, IT'S BEEN A HUGE HIT, UH, AS FAR AS A, A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF ARLINGTON AND TARRANT COUNTY.

UM, IT HAS REALLY EXCEEDED THEIR EXPECTATIONS, UM, EXCEEDED ALL THE MARKET, UH, STUDY PLANS AND IT'S REALLY DOING WELL EVEN UNDER, UH, THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY.

WE'RE STILL HAVING VERY STRONG SALES DOWN THERE.

SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE CHALLENGE WITH DOING A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS THAT, UH, WE PUT IN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT INCLUDES PARKS AND PUBLIC TRAILS AND, UM, A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT ARE PUBLIC AMENITIES AND, UH, THIS NOT ONLY BEAUTIFIES THE, THE AREA AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL AMENITIES FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND, AND, UH, THE SURROUNDINGS.

UM, BUT IT ALSO ENABLES US TO PUT IN A HIGHER VALUE OF HOMES.

UM, THEY, THE CONCEPT WITH OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT WE PUT IN, UM, IT'S, IT'S DENSER THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO.

PROBABLY.

UH, WE DO HAVE TOWNHOMES.

WE HAVE, UH, 35 FOOT LOTS, 40 FOOT LOTS, SOME SMALLER LOTS.

UM, BUT WHAT THAT ENABLES US TO DO IS TAKE THAT KIND OF CONSOLIDATE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL LAND AND PUT REALLY HIGH END, UM, BEAUTIFUL USEFUL PARKS IN IT.

UM, SOME EXAMPLES I'VE GOT IN THE PHOTOS AND, AND UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME DOWN WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

SO OUR VISION IS, IS STILL TO DO THIS, UH, WITHIN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

UM, THERE ARE, UH, WE, WE RAN INTO A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE MAIN ISSUES WAS, UH, TO GET THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, UH, PUT TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

UH, THAT WAS UP UNTIL, UM, JANUARY LOOKING VERY POSITIVE.

UH, THE, THE CITY HAD AGREED TO PARTICIPATE AT 70% IN THE TERS.

UH, WE HAD THE MMD, THE, UH, MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WAS IT THE TCEQ, UM, AND IT WAS ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE AND READY TO BE RELEASED.

UH, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT IN HAND AT THIS POINT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, EARLY JANUARY, THE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL OF COURSE HAS A NEW CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, FOR, FOR SOME REASON THEY DECIDED TO BACK OUT ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD.

THEY SENT A LETTER TO THE TCEQ WHO IS ESTABLISHING THE, THE MMD AND RESCINDED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THAT.

UH, SO IT, IT CREATED A BIG PROBLEM.

AND, UM, SO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY LITIGATING WITH THE CITY.

UM, THE, THE, UH, DATE FOR MEDIATION IS MAY 11TH.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL GET COMPLIANCE OUT OF THIS CITY AND THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESTORE WHAT WE HAD.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE MMD.

UM, I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME, SOME, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UH, THIS IS A BASIC, UM, LAYOUT OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'D LIKE TO BUILD SOME SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS FOR YOU.

IT'S ABOUT 613 ACRES, A LITTLE OVER 2,500 HOMES ABSORPTION RATE, UH, PER THE MARKET STUDY IS 250 HOMES PER YEAR BUILT AT THE QUALITY LEVEL WHERE WE INTENDED TO BUILD IT.

IT'S ABOUT $330,000 PER HOME HOME VALUE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IS VERY IMPORTANT TO FORNEY SCHOOLS AND THE TO THE COUNTY AS WELL.

IN TERMS OF TAX ARE OUR TAX INCREMENT VALUE AT BUILD-OUT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

IT WAS GOING TO BE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.

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UH, THE, THE TAX IMPACTS FOR YOU HIRE A V IN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

BASICALLY WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT VALUE DENSITY, AGAIN, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE UH, BEING KIND OF A RURAL COUNTY, UH, ONE OF THEIR HUGE EXPENSES AS I SPOKE TO DR. TERRY WAS THE COST OF BUSING ALL THE, THE CHILDREN ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO THIS WOULD CREATE, UM, A LOT MORE DENSITY.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM.

UM, THE HOME VALUES ARE ONLY ACHIEVABLE IF WE DO THE HIGHER QUALITY AMENITIES AND THE PARKS AND TRAILS.

UM, THE ALTERNATIVE IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, IS THAT YOU HAVE A FINANCING MECHANISM THAT'S THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT'S FINANCING MECHANISM, WHICH IS WHAT BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA.

UM, THE AVERAGE VALUES OF THE HOMES, THEY'RE ABOUT 250, $256,000, UH, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS CHALLENGING FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, THIS IS FROM OUR MARKET STUDY, THIS CHART, THOSE, THOSE RED LINE, UM, ARE REPRESENT THE VALUE OF THE HOMES IN, UH, PROPOSED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, THIS IS FROM THE MARKET STUDY.

UH, THE DOTS ARE WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT OUR AVERAGE, OUR HOME VALUES ARE 70 TO $80,000 MORE THAN WHAT'S, UH, THAN WHAT'S AROUND US.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY, UH, PROJECT THE MARKET KIND OF UP IN, UP INTO THE NEXT LEVEL.

UH, WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY, UH, THAT WILL NOT ONLY, UM, UH, ATTRACT, UH, A HIGHER PROPERTY VALUE BUT ALSO WILL ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS LEADERS AND REALLY, UM, HELP WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT, THAT THE MAYOR OF ARLINGTON IS SUPER HAPPY ABOUT WITH VERIDIAN IS THAT, UH, ARLINGTON HAS HAD A LOT OF NEW BUSINESS COME IN AND ONE OF THEIR MAIN CONCERNS IS IF WE PUT OUR BUSINESS HERE, WHERE ARE OUR PEOPLE GONNA LIVE? AND SO HE TAKES THEM THROUGH AND TOURS THEM THROUGH VERIDIAN AND THEY GO AWAY.

VERY HAPPY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HELP CREATE HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UM, I, I HAVE THIS CHART UP HERE TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE AVERAGE 256,000 AVERAGE MARKET PRICE CURRENTLY.

UM, WHEN WE RAN, UH, THE, OUR NUMBERS, THIS IS VERY HARD FOR YOU TO READ THEM CAUSE IT'S SO SMALL.

THE PLAN THAT WE HAD WITH AN MMD TERS, UM, WAS WITH 70% PARTICIPATION OF BY THE CITY AND 65% PARTICIPATION AS WE, UH, PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED WITH THE COUNTY.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE TAX ONLY, UH, FROM THE COUNTY.

UM, BASICALLY THAT ENABLES US TO PUT IN THAT BILLION DOLLARS OF AAV.

UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'D ABLE BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITH, UH, PID TERZOLI AND WHAT I'M, UH, SPEAKING TO, TO JUDGE RICHARDS, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE'S NOT A MUCH HIGHER, UM, VALUE IN THIS COMMUNITY, THEN THE COUNTIES NOT INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.

AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.

UH, THE NUMBER OF PLANTED LOTS YOU ALREADY HAVE IS, IS VERY SUFFICIENT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, IT NEEDS TO BE VERY WORTH IT.

AND SO HERE'S THE, THE WHAT'S WORTH IT IS WRITTEN IN RED DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

UH, THE ASSESSED VALUE FOR AN MMD WITH COUNTY PARTICIPATION IS ABOUT $337 MILLION HIGHER THAN IF WE HAD A PID, UH, PROJECT WITH NO COUNTY PARTICIPATION.

SO THE ANA ANNUAL COUNTY TAX REVENUE COMPARED TO WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IS ABOUT ONE POINT $8 MILLION MORE PER YEAR.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, REMEMBER THIS IS TAX MONEY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE ANYWAY, RIGHT? SO PLEDGING THE INCREMENT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO, UM, AS I WAS SAYING, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY MUCH INTO THIS PROJECT.

WE, IF WE CAN GET ALL OF THE, THE DISTRICT AND ALL THE FINANCING, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TOGETHER, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE HOPING FOR A FAVORABLE OUTCOME WITH THE, UM, WITH THE MEDIATION COMING UP IN MAY.

AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? WELL, JOHN, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WE, UH, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT GENERALLY, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GENERALLY, UH, UH, INCLINED TO INCENTIVIZE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPING, UH, DEVELOPMENTS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, W WE HAVE THE LOCATION THERE, THOSE ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WE REALLY ARE INTERESTED IN, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S A VALUE TO THE COUNTY AND THE VALUE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

AND, UH, ALSO

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SOMETHING THAT FILLS A VOID AS I THINK THIS, UH, HIGHER PRICED HOME DEVELOPMENT DOES.

WE HAVE, UH, WE, WE HAVE KIND OF A VOID IN THAT AREA.

IN MY OBSERVATION SO THAT A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS OR, UH, COMPANIES THAT MIGHT, UH, VIEW COFFIN COUNTY AS CON AS COMMERCIALLY DESIRABLE, THEY END UP LIVING IN ROCKWALL OR HEATH OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE, UH, UH, ON THE BENEFICIAL SIDE.

BUT I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISAPPOINTMENTS IN THE PAST.

AND SO, UH, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE, I THINK SUPPORTABLE, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, THOSE KINDS OF GUARANTEES, IF YOU WILL, THE, THE PROVISIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN ORIGINALLY INTO YOUR, UH, YOUR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, UH, WHICH TALKS ABOUT A, A ONE YEAR SORT OF INSPECTION CYCLE AND THEN A FIVE-YEAR AUDIT CYCLE TO ENSURE THAT THE, THAT THE, THE VALUE THAT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, UH, DOES IN FACT COME TO FRUITION.

UH, YOU KNOW, TO JUSTIFY ANY PARTICIPATION AT THE COUNTY MIGHT AT SOME POINT TAKE ON.

SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT TO YOU WHILE WE'RE HERE.

YES, SIR.

AND, AND, UH, OUR METHODOLOGY ACTUALLY CREATES ITS OWN PROTECTIONS IN THAT WITH A PID PROGRAM, TYPICALLY, UH, BONDS WOULD BE ISSUED UP FRONT BEFORE THE AAV GROWTH HAPPENS.

UH, WHAT WE DO IS WE PUT OUR CAPITAL IN FIRST, WE BUILD THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN WE BOND AFTER HOMES ARE ON THE GROUND.

SO REALLY THE WAY WE DO IT, IF WE DON'T BUILD IT, YOU DON'T PAY.

SO, UM, SO IT'S IT UNDER OUR STRUCTURE IT'S BUILT IN, BUT I ABSOLUTELY HEAR YOU.

AND, UM, WE, WE DEFINITELY, UH, WE, WE DO THE AUDIT CYCLE WITH THE CITY OF ARLINGTON WITH TARRANT COUNTY.

SO IT'S A VERY NORMAL THING FOR US TO DO.

I SEE A, A C SCOTT'S HERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, INFORMATION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE REGARDING THE LITIGATION STATUS OF THIS? FIRST OFF, WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN GYM SHORTS OR SWEATPANTS THIS MORNING.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, WE WERE HIRED, UH, BY MR SPRADLEY AND SPRADLEY FARMS TO FILE LAWSUIT, UH, BASED ON THE CITY WELTERING WITH THE AGREEMENT.

UM, WITH THE UH, RESOLUTION THAT THEY ENTERED INTO APPROVING THE PLAN.

WE FILED A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER.

IT WAS THE CASE WAS ASSIGNED TO JUDGE RICH'S COURT.

UM, JUDGE GRANTED OUR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER.

UM, AND THEN THE CITY PROCEEDED TO FILE WHAT'S CALLED A WRIT, WHICH IS BASICALLY AN APPEAL TO THE COURT OF APPEALS TO SET IT ASIDE AND FURTHER THE LAWSUIT OUT BASED ON JURISDICTIONAL GROUNDS.

UM, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED NOTICE YESTERDAY THAT THE COURT OF APPEALS, UH, DENIED.

UM, THEY'RE RED AND SO THE CASE IS PROCEEDING.

WE ARE PURSUING THE CASE, UM, BASED ON A BREACH OF CONTRACT, UM, AND ILLEGAL TAKINGS AS THE TWO MAIN ISSUES, UH, BY THE CITY.

WE'RE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE FOR THE COURTS TO ORDER THAT THE CITY PROCEED WITH WHAT THEY AGREED TO DO.

SO AS OF NOW, THE CASE IS PENDING.

WE DO HAVE MEDIATION COMING UP ON MAY THE 11TH.

UM, WE HAVE RESEARCHED THE LAW AND WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE JUSTIFIED IN OUR CLAIMS AND OUR PURSUITS AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'LL PREVAIL IN THE COURTS BEFORE THIS THING IS OVER.

SO, UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LITIGATION OR HOW IT MAY AFFECT THE COUNTY AT ALL? BECAUSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, NOT OUR LITIGATION WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT WHAT THE COUNTY'S DOING, UM, FROM ANY BIT WHATSOEVER.

UM, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, THEY'RE MADE DEFENSES IN THIS CASE OR SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT THE COURT OF APPEALS YESTERDAY TOLD THEM THEY WERE WRONG.

SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

UH, JUST ONE COMMENT FOR ME.

UM, UH, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT OTHER THINGS, BUT THERE'S NOT THE, THERE'S NOT ANY REASON I THINK FOR THE COUNTY TO, UH, PROMOTE OR HELP A, A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT UNLESS THERE'S A REALLY GOOD REASON FOR IT.

UM, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY FOR THE MOST PART IS WHAT I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT TRADITIONAL A LOT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TRADITIONAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, FRONT FACING GARAGES, THE DRIVEWAY.

AND, UH, THAT SORT OF THING IS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I'VE, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T GONE ONLINE AND LOOKED UP FOR RADIAN,

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UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT.

SO, AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER AND CAGE THOUGH WE'D HAVE TO, THE ONLY REASON FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN A TIF WOULD BE IF, UH, THERE WAS SOME GUARANTEE OR SOME COMMITMENT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD OFFER SOMETHING UNIQUE IN THE COUNTY.

I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, NOT JUST COMPETING WITH THE TRADITIONAL FRONT DRIVEWAY, YOU KNOW, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE SEE AROUND THE COUNTY.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO WORK OUT.

I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS OTHER STUFF TO GET CLEARED UP.

BUT IF WE COULD, IF I COULD FEEL CONFIDENT IT WAS GOING TO BRING SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT, UM, I THINK A LOT OF, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY INTERESTED.

ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LIVING IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE NOT PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN LIVING IN JUST A TRADITIONAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT LIKE WE SEE SPRINGING UP ALL OVER.

SO ANYWAY, UM, WELL I GUESS WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THE DUST SETTLES ON THIS OTHER AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU JOE.

[4. Judge Richards; Discuss/ Consider approving extending Amended Declaration of Disaster for Public Health Emergency. (Part 1 of 2)]

UH, NEXT ITEM, FOUR.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING EXTENDING AMENDED DECLARATION OF DISASTER FOR PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

I MIGHT ASK REBECCA IF SHE WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS OR HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT IT.

UM, ULTIMATELY THE REASON FOR US TO EXTEND OUR DECLARATION IS BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING AND THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN FROM FEMA AND FROM THE STATE.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS DECLARATION BE ONGOING.

UM, SO REBECCA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR, UM, MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR US? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT DATE DO YOU GUYS WANT TO PUT AN ORDER? UM, I KNOW YESTERDAY THE GOVERNOR TALKED ABOUT A DIFFERENT PHASE PLAN AND THEN ALSO THE, UM, COURTS ADMINISTRATION SENT OUT A DATE UNTIL JUNE 1ST FOR SOME EXTENSIONS OF, OF THE PRACTICES THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED WITHIN OUR COURT SYSTEM.

UM, SO IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS AS TO HOW FAR YOU WANT TO EXTEND THAT OUT.

OF COURSE THAT JUST DEALS WITH THE FUNDING ISSUES THAT THE JUDGE, WHEN DOES THE, UH, WHEN DOES THE GOVERNOR'S DECLARATION EXPIRE? I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW TODAY.

NO, BUT HE RENEWED HIS DECORATION YESTERDAY.

DID HE NOT KNOW HE'S ALLOWING HIS ORDER TO EXPIRE? I THINK THAT'S JUST THE, AS IT REGARDS THE UM, THE SHELTER BUT NOT THE, NOT THE DECLARATION, THE DISASTER BECAUSE THAT WOULD INTERRUPT FEDERAL FUNDING.

RIGHT.

I JUST THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR US TO SYNC THAT UP FOR OUR, I CAN, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO PAUSE I CAN OKAY.

HOLD THAT UP AND FIGURE THAT OUT.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST MOVE ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IF YOU COULD.

NO, YOU DON'T THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR OUR, OUR DECO, OUR DISASTER DECLARATION DID COINCIDE WITH THE STATES.

OH SURE.

CAUSE THAT WAS THE BLUESTEM IS FUNDING OUT THERE, NOT DRAFT ADVANTAGE OF IT.

ORDER.

RIGHT.

I'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK.

OKAY.

JUST RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[5. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider scope of services and contract options for RFP 20-12: 2019 Kaufman County Compensation and Classification Study ]

UH, I'M THE ONE MADE 13 CENTS.

FIVE RAYLAND DISCUSS, CONSIDER SCOPE OF SERVICES AND CONTRACT OPTIONS FOR RFP 2012 COFFIN COUNTY COMPENSATION CLASSIFICATION STUDY.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, SO THIS WAS THE ITEM THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED BACK IN MARCH ACTUALLY AND Y'ALL HAD GIVEN ME A LIST OF ITEMS TO TAKE THAT TO THE VENDOR AND TRY TO GET A FINAL UH, PRICING BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR.

JUST TO BRIEF YOU, IT WAS TO COMPLETE A SALARY SURVEY FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENTS.

WE DECIDE WHICH COUNTIES TO BE COMPARED TO A REVIEW OF OUR CURRENT SALARY DATA TO DEVELOP A PAY PLAN, IDENTIFYING SPECIFIC PERIMETERS AND REVIEW ALL POSITIONS AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE WITHIN THE NEW PAY PLAN.

AND ALSO TO HELP CALCULATE AN IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS STUDY.

YOU HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS NO FEE TO MAINTAIN THAT SOFTWARE ONCE IT'S HANDED OVER TO THE HR DEPARTMENT AND THEY'VE RECEIVED THE TRAINING.

PART OF THE TRAINING IS HOW TO KEEP IT UPDATED FOR THE COUNTY.

SO, UM, IT WAS A $6,000 REDUCTION FROM THE ORIGINAL SCOPE.

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AND SO JUST THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT IT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN? I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPTIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO.

MARY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT FROM THE HR SIDE, UM, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HEAR? I MEAN, WE ALL DISCUSS THE COMMITTEE THAT, UM, I WAS ABOUT REFORM, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT, UM, I THINK THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, I FELT LIKE WE, UH, WE ALL REALIZED THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR EXPENDITURES ON THE COUNTY HAVE TO DO WITH PERSONNEL AND I W I FEEL LIKE WE SORT OF FLY, WE'RE SORT OF FLYING BLIND A LITTLE BIT.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE GOOD FACTUAL INFORMATION TO COMPARE US TO COMPARE OUR WAGES.

AND I THINK AS SOME CASES WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY OUT OF SYNC WITH THE MARKET.

AND THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE PREVAILING WAGES FOR CERTAIN JOBS ARE.

WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, JUDGE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, TO ENSURE THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FEELS, UM, PRETTY COMMITTED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS.

I, I'D HATE FOR US TO SPEND THIS MONEY AND, AND UH, DO THIS RESEARCH ONLY TO THEN BASICALLY DISCOUNT THE INFORMATION AND, AND FAIL TO ACT ON IT.

SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE, UM, BEFORE WE SPEND THIS MONEY, WE REALLY NEED TO BE PRETTY COMMITTED TO, TO MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

AND AGAIN, I RECOGNIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL LIMITED BY BUDGET OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN, IN ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE COUNTY, UH, TRYING TO, TRYING TO DEVELOP A MORE STRATEGIC, UH, OPERATIONAL PLAN, LOOKING FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.

I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A COMPONENT OF THAT, BUT, UH, I'D HATE TO SPEND THIS MONEY.

UH, AND THEN PEN AND BASICALLY JUST NOT USE THE INFORMATION AND NOT, NOT REALLY HAVE ANY, ANY CONNECTIVITY TO ITS OUTCOME.

WELL, NOT HERE.

I HEAR PEOPLE SAY ABOUT A PARTICULAR POSITION THAT THIS POSITION NOT, UH, IS NOT PAID AT THE SAME RATE AS IT IS ELSEWHERE.

BUT I FELT LIKE FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S AN A MORE OF AN OPINION THAN IT IS A FACT.

UH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE'S EVER ACTUALLY GONE AND LOOK AT, LOOKED AT COMPARATIVE IN MOST CASES THEY'VE LOOKED TO COMPARE TO STUFF.

SO IF WE HAVE A, IF THIS STUDY SHOWS THAT WE HAVE A PARTICULAR POSITION THAT IS BELOW THE MARKET VALUE FOR THAT, A MARKET WAGE, WHAT I WOULD THINK WE WOULD DO IS TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND WORK UPDATING IT EVERY YEAR AND WORK OVER A PERIOD OF TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE YEARS AND WORK TO GET OUR WAGES ALIGNED WITH, WITH THE MARKET TO ALIGN WITH.

AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'D BE UPDATED, IT WOULD BE UPDATED WITH THE SOFTWARE.

SO EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH A BUDGET PROCESS, WE WOULD HAVE AN IDEA WHERE WE STAND.

SO OUR, I THINK WE, I THINK WE NEED THIS, BUT IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE STUDY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT.

BUT I FEEL LIKE I DON'T SEE WHAT OTHER, I DON'T SEE WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

WELL, I JUST, I DON'T, UNLESS OUR HR CAN GET US SOME NUMBERS TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE THE ONLY OTHER OPTION THAT'S LIKE, WE HAVE OUR, WE PAY SOMEBODY TO DO THIS AND REALISTICALLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO, TO BUMP EVERYBODY UP TO MAYBE WHAT THE SURVEY IS GOING TO SHOW, BUT OVER TIME, OVER TIME, WE CAN, AS LONG AS WE MAKE A COMMITMENT OVER TIME.

BUT OF COURSE THE FACE HAS CHANGED ON THE COURT.

SO I MEAN, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN DO IT WHILE WE'RE HERE AND THEN TRY TO MAKE IT A STANDARD TYPE DEAL.

BUT ISLAM WOULD TAKE, I MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE CHASING, YOU'RE CHASING A FAST HORSE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST GONNA BE RUNNING AWAY FROM US WHILE WE'RE STILL CHASING IT.

BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF IDEA WHERE WE REALLY ARE FROM AN OBJECTIVE VIEWPOINT AS READING ME WHAT KIND OF PICK THE PLAN THAT WE PICKED WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A SOFTWARE BASED PLAN AND WE WOULD MOSTLY HAVE IT DONE IN THE HOUSE.

YEAH.

AND I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THAT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE TASTING THE HORSE.

I'M AFRAID THE BOTTOM LINE IS IN OTHER COUNTIES IT'S BEEN A LOT OF THIS, THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY DOING IT AND THEN THEY COULDN'T IMPLEMENT

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IT.

WE SURE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE ROCKWALL AND GIVE OURSELVES A BUNCH OF RAISES AND STUFF THAT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

SO, BUT YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE, UH, THE GOOD THING, AND SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK MARY HAS GOT TO HAVE A LOT OF INPUT ON THIS.

THIS IS, SHE'D BE THE PROJECT MANAGER.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DEVELOP THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE SOFTWARE AND KEEP UP WITH THE CHALLENGES OF DOING THIS.

AND THAT'S A BIG TASK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW THE PROJECT COST OF THE TASKS AND HARD DEPARTMENT.

AND THE COMPANIES DO THE SAME THING.

PRIVATE COMPANIES DO THE SAME THING.

THEY ARE.

SO MAYBE JUST THEIR HR DEPARTMENT KEEPS UP WITH THE LOCAL TRENDS AND WHAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS AND, BUT WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN PUBLIC.

SO WHERE DO WE JUSTIFY THE MARKETPLACE VERSUS OUR MARKETPLACE? ARE WE 10% BELOW THEM, 20% WALMART EVEN? YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION.

AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AS SCIENTIFIC AS SOMEWHAT SCIENTIFIC APPROACH OR SOMEWHAT, UH, PROFESSIONALLY LOOKED AT AS OPPOSED TO JUST SPIT BALLING.

RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS GETS.

I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING A LOT OF ARGUMENT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, UH, EXACTLY HOW IT, BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW HOW MANY GALLERIES HAVE KIND OF FAILED AT THIS ATTEMPT.

SO IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH, IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE.

I MEAN, WELL, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO SAY, HEY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO, UH, TO ABIDE BY IT AS BEST WE CAN AND JUST LOOK, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET.

THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.

BUT OVER TIME IS THAT, THAT'S RIGHT.

I AGREE.

YEAH.

YOU CAN'T DO IT ONE YEAR.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE FOCUS OF TRYING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE MORE STRATEGIC IN, IN OUR OPERATIONAL PLANNING AND OUR BUDGET PLANNING AND ALL OF THAT.

AND I SEE THIS AS A COMPONENT OF THAT.

YEAH.

I DO THINK THAT IT'S GOOD TO MENTION, ESPECIALLY AT THIS MEETING, THAT THIS WOULD BE A 90 DAY COMPLETION.

SO TECHNICALLY YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT GET YOUR FINAL REPORT UNTIL AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.

SO WHILE PEOPLE ARE LISTENING AND WATCHING THE MEETING, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THIS WOULD PROBABLY GO INTO THAT FIVE-YEAR FORECAST BUDGET PLAN.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THE TIMELINE, THAT THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE TURNED AROUND QUICKLY.

YEAH.

AND IN THAT MANY DAYS IS WHEN MARY AND HER STAFF'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF WORK IN ORDER TO GET THE FINAL DEAL.

OH, THAT'S, THAT'S IT'S PRETTY BIG.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WORK ON OUR PART.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAN OR MARY? OKAY.

AND WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A, BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, EXTENDING THEM.

I'M SORRY.

UH, SHIPPED BACK TO REBECCA STEEL DISCUSS.

WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR RFP 2012 CALL FROM COUNTY COMPENSATION CLASSIFICATION CITY.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[4. Judge Richards; Discuss/ Consider approving extending Amended Declaration of Disaster for Public Health Emergency. (Part 2 of 2)]

I'LL SEE REBECCA STANDING UP BACK THERE.

THANK YOU RON.

LET'S, LET'S, LET ME HEAR FROM HER AND THEN WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.

I DIDN'T TAKE TOO LONG.

UM, OKAY.

SO THE GOVERNOR IS EXTENDING HIS ORDER BY 30 DAY INCREMENTS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE MAY 13TH IS ONE OF THE EXPIRES.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT, UM, HIS PHASE TWO WOULD BEGIN ON OR ABOUT MAY 18TH.

SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT HE'S GONNA DO ANOTHER 30 DAY EXTENSION.

UM, SO YOUR OPTIONS COULD BE TO EXTEND 30 DAYS OR EXTEND TO MATCH UP TO THAT MAY 3RD 18TH OR 13TH DATE PLUS 30 DAYS.

UH, WHAT WOULD MY 18 PLUS 30 DAYS BE? ARE MAY 13TH IS WHEN HIS END.

SO, UM, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO 30 DAYS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE'S, THAT'S THE PARTY.

THEY SHOULD PUT US TO THE END OF MAY.

IT JUST DOESN'T EXACTLY ALIGN YOU UP WITH WHERE HIS, THAT'S OKAY.

I THINK WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS BRING THIS BACK EVERY WEEK.

EVERY OTHER WEEK WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND IF UH, AND WE CAN ALWAYS RESCIND IT AT ANY, AT ANY TIME.

MMM.

OKAY.

SO THAT WOULD BE AN EXTENSION UNTIL MAY 30 30 MAY 30TH YEAH,

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A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT.

WE WAKE UP THE NEXT DAY TO MAKE 30 TAKE CALCULUS.

LET ME JUST STAY IN LINE WITH WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S NEW, WHAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S DATE? WHAT DOES THAT ADD UP TO 13TH, 13TH PLUS 30 DAYS.

I'M GOING TO PULL UP MY DATE CALCULATOR.

OKAY.

NO, SORRY.

TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT, BUT THEN YOU'VE KIND OF THROUGH JUNE THE 13TH, CLOSE OUT THAT WEEK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT BECAUSE OUR ORDER TECHNICALLY DOES NOT EXPIRE TODAY AND HAS A FEW MORE DAYS ON IT.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND IF YOU HIT OKAY, MAY 13TH PLUS 30 DAYS, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE HE WOULD DO TO KEEP RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDING.

JUNE 12TH THAT'S CORRECT.

YUP.

OUR MATHEMATICIAN BACK THERE.

I KNOW YOU GOT THE WRONG.

UH, OKAY.

SO, UH, WHAT'S BEFORE US WOULD BE TO CONSIDER APPROVING EXTENDING THE AMENDED DECLARATION OF DISASTER FOR HEALTH EMERGENCY UNTIL JUNE THE 12TH.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR THAT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND ONE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU KAREN.

NO PROBLEM.

ANYTIME.

UH,

[6. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of County owned assets. ]

OKAY.

RAYMOND IS BACK.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL COUNTY AND ASSETS.

WE JUST NEED TO SELL SOME MORE VEHICLES AND ALSO A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THREE QUESTIONS? NOPE.

FEAR, NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL ACCOUNTING ON ASSETS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT TRANSFER OR THAT ACTION IS OR THAT'S FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS OUR SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WAS AT HUNT PHILLIPS PHILLIPS.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[7. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of Task Order for Road, Bridge Program Management between Teague Natl and Perkins, Inc. and Kaufman County. ]

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER FOR ROAD BRIDGE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT BETWEEN TEAGUE NOL AND PERKINS AND KAUFLIN COUNTY.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE FINAL TASK ORDER FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PIECE OF COUNTY ROADS ONLY ON YOUR BOND PROGRAM.

I'LL ALSO HAVE MATT HERE FROM TMP TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TASK ORDER.

UM, THE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON EACH PRECINCTS NEEDS FOR THAT MONTH.

UH, FUNDING IS AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF YOUR ROAD AND MATERIALS.

THAT WAS A LOT OF TO YOU OUT OF THE BOND FUNDS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT PIECE.

ALSO.

UM, THIS WAS COORDINATED THROUGH THE COUNTY ENGINEER TMP AND ALSO HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL.

SO I'VE GOT MATT, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED SOME CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS WHAT ALL THAT WILL ENTAIL.

WELCOME MORNING JUDGE MINISTERS.

THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME.

OKAY.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH THE COUNTY.

I THINK WE'VE ENJOYED A PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SIDE, UM, AS AN EXTENSION OF YOUR STAFF SO FAR AND WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO DO THE SAME THING WITH, WITH RON.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS WOULD BE TO JUST COME ALONGSIDE HIM, PROVIDE SUPPORT AND AN EXTENSION OF HIS STAFF, UH, TO PROVIDE, UM, ASSISTANCE WITH, UM, SCHEDULING, UM, DETERMINING THE, THE ROADS, THAT SECTION OF THE ROADS, UM, GETTING THE UM, PROJECTS GROUP TOGETHER AND UM, GETTING THEM ALL READY TO GO OUT FOR BID.

I KNOW THE INTENT FOR Y'ALL IS TO, IS TO GET THESE ROADS GOING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND THAT WOULD BE THE ANTIDOTE FOR US AS WELL.

I THINK WE CAN COME ALONGSIDE RON AND, AND UM, GET YOU SOME ROADS UNDER CONSTRUCTION HERE PRETTY QUICKLY.

I KNOW, UM, WATCH SOME OF THE, UM, PROCEEDINGS HERE BEFORE ON THIS ITEM AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE, UM, HAVING IT THROUGH DECEMBER AND I JUST PUT DECEMBER ON THERE, UM, IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO GET THROUGH THIS FIRST PHASE OF THIS, OF THIS, UM, ROAD BOND PROJECT.

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AND UM, IF IT DOESN'T GO THAT FAR, THEN THAT'S FINE.

IT'S JUST A TIME AND MATERIALS EXPENSE CONTRACT.

SO IF WE DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY OR SPENDING TIME THAT MONTH, WE DON'T BUILD ANYTHING THAT MONTH.

SO IT'S JUST ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, UH, WITH WORKING WITH RON ON IN RUTLAND AS WELL AS FAR AS HOW MUCH WE WOULD DO THAT MONTH, THAT MONTH, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU ON, UH, YOUR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS, UM, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.

BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'LL, I'LL, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS A TEMPLATE OR A PROCESS.

NOW, IF I GUESS FROM RON AND Y'ALL, I MEAN, IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO DO A ROAD TO CONTACT, Y'ALL WOULD DO THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN EXPECT NEXT OR WHAT DO Y'ALL NEED FROM US NEXT? AND JUST KIND OF GIVE US A TIMELINE SO EVERYBODY DOESN'T GO RUNNING IN THERE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

AND YES, SIR.

YOU KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT EVERYBODY YOU KNOW GOES BY.

YES SIR.

SO I GUESS, OKAY, YES, COMMISSIONER HUNT.

UM, I THINK WE WOULD CERTAINLY WORK RON ON FIGURING THAT OUT.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST TASKS THAT WE'RE GONNA GONNA JUMP ON IS GOING TO GO INTO BE DETERMINING THAT PROCESS.

BUT IN MY MIND, THE WAY THAT WOULD LOOK IS SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS NOW WITH A TASK ORDER.

AND SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE A ROAD AND COMMISSIONER CASE HAD A ROAD COMMISSION, MARVIN, UH, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, UH, BE IN A MEDIUM SIZED FARM.

WE HAD A CAPACITY TO, TO JUMP ON THESE THINGS, UM, AND GET THEM DONE QUICKLY.

SO IF YOU DECIDE AND THE CONSENSUS IS YOU GOT ROAD AND YOU GOT A ROAD AND WE'RE GONNA DO THESE ROADS, THEN WE WOULD SCOPE THAT OUT AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.

BRING BACK TO YOU A, A, UM, INDIVIDUAL TASK ORDER FOR THAT ROAD OR GROUP OF ROADS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BID IT OUT IN THAT WAY.

UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BEGIN TO DESIGN WHATEVER DESIGN IS NECESSARY THAT WE DETERMINE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME DESIRE TO DO SOME, UM, LIMITED DESIGN, UM, AND USE THEM, USE THE MONEY, UM, AS FAR AS WE CAN AND WE'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT, UH, WORKING WITH YOU TO, TO GET THE MAXIMUM VALUE OUT OF ALL YOUR BOND DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN.

SO, UH, WE'LL DEVELOP THAT PROCESS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WHERE THERE WOULD BE, UH, A ROAD WE WOULD, UM, PROVIDE YOU A SCOPE, A TASK ORDER FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN GET GOING ON THAT.

IF WE NEED SURVEY, THEN WE'D BE OUT SURVEYING PRETTY QUICKLY AND WE CAN MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY ON THESE, ON THESE ROADS INDIVIDUAL BASIS, OR AS I SAID, AS A GROUP OF, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DESIRE TO GROUP THESE TOGETHER ON A, MAYBE TAKES, UM, A COUPLE IN AN AREA AND GROUP THEM TOGETHER AND HAVE THE SAME CONTRACTOR BID OR SELECT THE SAME CONTRACTOR FOR THAT.

UM, AND THAT WAY YOU GET SOME VALUE THERE AND MOBILIZATION.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT? IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE Y'ALL GET THIS ON A PRETTY GOOD PATH AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUS.

SHE'D GET ROLLING, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE GATHERED AND WE'RE CERTAINLY ANXIOUS TO GET GET TO MEETING WITH EACH OF YOU AND FIGURE OUT YOUR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME, THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM, THERE'S BEEN SOME NEEDS IDENTIFIED.

UH, WE'LL WORK WITH RON TO GET THOSE, UM, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AND SOLIDIFIED AS TO WHICH ONES GO FIRST.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT MONEY WAITING TO SPEND ON IT, SO WE'RE CERTAINLY READY TO GET GOING.

RON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I THINK MATT SAID IT VERY WELL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, JUDGE, LET ME, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, AND THIS IS REALLY THE BOTH OF YOU GUYS.

I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, POTENTIAL VENDOR INVOLVED THAT HAS, UH, SOME SOFTWARE PACKAGING THAT, UM, AIDES IN THE ACTUAL CONDITION ASSESSMENT, PRIORITIZATION AND BEING ABLE TO REALLY PUT SOME, SOME SCIENCE BEHIND THAT.

UH, AND, AND, UH, VERY PRELIMINARY, BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT POTENTIALLY ESTABLISHING SOME RELATIONSHIP FOR US.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME ANY UPDATE ON THAT? YEAH, LET YOU DEAL WITH IT.

YES, SIR.

UH, COMMISSIONER CAKES, I'VE SPOKEN WITH, UM, A COMPANY CALLED ROBOTICS I BELIEVE IS THE ONE THAT UH, YOU, YOU TALKED TO.

UH, THERE'S SOME, UH, IT'S VERY INTRIGUING AND UM, I THINK MAYBE SOME POTENTIAL THERE FOR HOW WE CAN WORK THAT.

UM, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO COME UP WITH AN OBJECTIVE WAY OF IDENTIFYING ROADS NEED AND, UM, IDENTIFYING THE CONDITION OF ROADS, A ROAD ASSESSMENT AND UH, THEY HAVE A, THROUGH U UTILIZING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, UM, AND ABLE TO ANALYZE THE ROADS BASED ON TAKING A VIDEO OF THAT.

AND I'VE VISITED WITH THEM AND I THINK THERE'S COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL THERE.

UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING WITH YOU A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

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UM, EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT THAT TO WORK AND HOW THAT COULD THEN POTENTIALLY BE, UM, OH, I GUESS WE USED TO TALK INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME ASSESSMENT FROM YOU GUYS IF THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A VALID PROCESS AND IF IT HAD ANY, IF YOU IN YOUR OPINION, IF IT HAD ANY VALUE.

UH, YES.

SO THIS OVERALL BOND PROGRAM, SURE.

UM, I THINK THEY'RE HAVING SOME FORM OF ASSESSMENT IS A, UM, A VALID POINT AND A SUBJECTIVE AND AN OBJECTIVE ASSESSMENT, NOT A SUBJECTIVE ASSESSMENT.

SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE UTILIZED, UH, FIRMS BEFORE IN THE PAST THAT DO SIMILAR SITUATION, SIMILAR STUDIES.

UM, TYPICALLY THEY'RE PRETTY EXPENSIVE, BUT THIS ONE IS, SEEMS TO BE, SEEMS A LITTLE MORE REASONABLE.

RIGHT.

UM, SO THERE ARE SOME DETAILS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WORK OUT AS FAR AS WHO DOES WHAT AND HOW THAT WORKS FOR ME TO GET YOU A PRETTY GOOD COST ON THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, UH, LOOK AT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR.

WE COULD LOOK AT IT ON LIKE A COST PER MILE.

UM, IS IS THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT THAT AND PARTNER WITH THOSE GUYS AND, AND ALL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT DONE AND THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT PRETTY QUICKLY TOO.

OKAY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE THEN.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY.

THEN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US WOULD BE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER FOR ROAD BRIDGE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT BETWEEN TECHNO AND PERKINS IN COFFIN COUNTY.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP.

I'M SORRY.

YES MA'AM.

YES MA'AM.

LISTING THOSE ROWS BECAUSE I'M SETTING UP YOUR BUDGET ON THAT BOX.

PUT THE MONEY IN JOURNALING PART, ALL THAT MONEY WHERE IT GOES.

BUT I NEED A LISTING FOR EACH ONE OF YOU CAUSE I'M GOING TO SET YOU UP A SEPARATE APARTMENT AND LIST THOSE ROADS SEPARATELY.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SPENT ON EACH ROAD.

OKAY.

SO WANTED TO ADD, UM, I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH COMMISSIONER HUNT ABOUT THE FLOW CHART AND FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES ON THE BOND, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL POST SO THAT CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE PROCESS THAT IT TAKES TO EVEN GO AND HANDLE ONE ROAD FOR BOND BUTTON.

SO I DIDN'T WANT TO ADD THAT.

WE'LL BRING THAT FLOW CHART BACK AND MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE TO EVERYONE.

UM, BUT I DID WANT TO ADD THAT REAL QUICK TOO.

OKAY.

[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of Modification No. 1 in the amount of $33,000 for Contract #CEDR90-REP-ST2-012-20 between Texas State Soil and Water Conservation Board (TSSWCB) and Kaufman County.]

UH, AUTOMATE, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MODIFICATION NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $33,000 FOR CONTRACT.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THAT.

CONTRACT NUMBER BETWEEN TEXAS STATE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD AND COLLEGE.

OKAY.

THIS IS AN UPDATE TO THEIR FISCAL YEAR 2019 CONTRACT TO INCLUDE A $33,000 MODIFICATION.

WE ARE HAVING TO USE A DIFFERENT ACCESS POINT, UH, ON THE OWNER'S PROPERTY.

AND SO THIS WILL REQUIRE SOME CONSTRUCTION MATS DUE TO THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT GOING DOWN ROADS AND ALSO DRIVEWAY AND PROPERTY.

THIS AMOUNT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE TSS WCB AND I JUST WANTED TO KEEP REITERATING THE FACT THAT AS THESE CONTRACT AMOUNTS GO UP, WE ARE RECEIVING THE FUNDING AND WE WILL ALSO CHARGE BACK THE 5% TO THE STATE FOR THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.

SO IT STILL IS LEVELING OUT EACH TIME WE DO AN AMENDMENT QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MODIFICATION NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $33,000 FOR THE CONTRACT WITH TEXAS SOIL WATER CONSERVATION BOARD? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KATES, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE PPOS KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[9. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider Resolution of Financing and the purchase of a 2019 HAMM GRW180i-10 in the amount of $139,500.00; utilizing Buyboard Contract #597-19; for Precinct #3.]

NEXT ITEM DISCUSSED CONSIDER RESOLUTION OF FINANCING AND THE PURCHASE OF A 2019 HAM GR W 18 ONE 80 10 AND THE AMOUNT OF ONE 39,500.

THIS IS A BY BOARD CONTRACT, UM, FOR PRECINCT THREE.

COMMISSIONER? YEAH.

BASICALLY, THIS IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY RENTED IN THE PAST AND IT'S GETTING PRETTY PRICEY WITH ALL THE WORK ROAD WORK WE'RE DOING.

SO I THINK WE'RE EVEN BETTER OFF TO BUY.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

IT'S A DEMO MODEL.

I BELIEVE IT HAS 200 AND 205 HOURS ON IT AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT.

IT'S AN EXCELLENT CONDITION AND MY PLAN IS, UH, THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE LISTED TO BE AUCTIONED OFF, WE'LL PAY FOR THIS SO IT'D BE A SHORT TERM ON THE FINANCE DEAL,

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SO WE PAY IT OFF.

SO THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING FINANCING OF THE PURCHASE OF 2019 HAM G OR W 18 ONE 80 I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION WITH COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR? YES MA'AM.

WE'RE FINANCING THIS THROUGH GOVERNMENT CAPITAL THAT I CALLED AND GOT THE DEAL.

OKAY.

THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT HAS TO BE SIGNED AND APPROVED BY THIS COURT TO GET THAT DONE.

AND I GOT AN EXCELLENT INTEREST RATE.

THE RESOLUTION IS, IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET AND UM, IS INCLUDED IN THE WORDING ON THE MOTION.

YEAH.

THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TOO, THAT UM, KIRBY SMITH, THEY HAD THEIR OWN FINANCING DEAL THAT THEY OFFERED US AND KAREN WAS ABLE TO FIND A MUCH BETTER DEAL FOR US, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO, UH, THANK YOU.

WE NEVER DID VOTE.

UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING UH, THE RESOLUTION OF FINANCING AND THE PURCHASE OF THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? YOU MADE THE MOTION.

MR. BARBER, DID SOMEBODY MAKE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HUNT? DID YOU SECOND MR. HUNT, UH, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THAT WAS POSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[10. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approving Advanced Funding Agreement between Kaufman County and TxDOT for Bridge Replacement or Rehabilitation Project CR 110 at Jones Creek.]

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND TECH STOCK FOR BRIDGE REPLACEMENT.

UH, YES, THIS IS A, THE STATE INSPECTS OUR BRIDGES EVERY YEAR AND WE GET REPORTS AND THEY COME AND THEY CHOOSE BRIDGES TO REPLACE.

AND THIS IS I GUESS, FEDERAL MONEY MANAGEMENT BY TEX.

DOT.

AND WE JUST PAY OUR PORTION, WHICH I THINK IS 41,000, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROJECT.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM IN PRIOR PART.

WE HAVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNTER PROVED THAT ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ONE.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH,

[11. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider approving Advanced Funding Agreements between Kaufman County and TxDOT for Bridge Replacement or Rehabilitation Projects CR 279 at Bachelor Creek, CR 312 Muddy Cedar Creek Tributary, and Samuels Road-CR 240 at Little High Point Creek.]

COMMISSIONER BARBER, SAME SONG.

SECOND VERSE, THE SAME THING.

AND ALL THESE THAT ARE LISTED HERE ARE BRIDGES THAT HAVE BEEN NEEDING TO BE REPAIRED SINCE LONG BEFORE I CAME ON BOARD.

SO YEAH, THERE I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THIS AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ONE AS WELL.

OKAY.

JUST A SPECIAL YEAR, MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT.

OR ITEM 11, HE'S THERE AS FOR COMMISSIONER BARBER.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[12. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider order authorizing Memorial Day Fireworks sales.]

A COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSED.

CONSIDER ORDERING AN ORDER AUTHORIZING MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS SALES.

YEAH, IT'S THE SAME WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, BEGAN, UH, RETAILERS IN THE FIREWORKS BUSINESS HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

CONTACTED ME A WEEK OR SO AGO REQUESTING THAT WE PUT IT ON AGAIN.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS IN THE PAST.

UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, RANDY RICHARD SAYS, UH, SPOKEN TO US BEFORE.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT ASKING HIM TODAY.

I MEAN THERE WERE NO, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WITH ANYTHING AS FAR AS EXTRA FIRES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, I RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND PASS AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST ON THIS ONE.

IF I CAN JUST MAKE A COMMENT.

I THINK I HAVE MENTIONED THIS YOU ALL AGO.

I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THE UH, UH, ROBERT HUNTER HAS BEEN PUTTING ON THESE MEMORIAL DAY EVENTS IN THE COUNTY, BEEN REALLY LARGELY ATTENDED MEMORIAL DAY IS, UM, A DAY TO, UM, REMEMBER AND MOURN FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE TO THE COUNTRY.

AND IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, AFTER GOING TO THOSE THINGS.

IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO BE SHOOTING FIREWORKS.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I FELT LIKE I WOULD EXPRESS THAT.

SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS, UH, TO CONSIDER AN ORDER AUTHORIZING MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS SALES.

WELL, I MAY ASK YOU THIS, UH, I KNOW WHENEVER THEY CALLED ME, SO I GUESS WE'VE GOT ONE ON THE SOUTH END.

THE COUNTY CALLS ME AND ONE COLLEGE THEY TALK.

BUT YOU KNOW, I, I OF SAID THAT I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE FOUND OUT WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH, WITH ALL THIS COBIT STUFF.

SO NOW THEY'RE OPENING IT UP.

BUT STILL WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONGREGATION AND STUFF.

AS LONG AS THEY'RE PLANNING ON DATING WITH IT AT THE STANCE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING.

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I MEAN, IT'S NOT ADDRESSED IN THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER, FIREWORKS STANDARDS.

THAT WAS NOTHING.

BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST A RETAIL, YOU DON'T NEED MORE OF A FIRE MARSHALL THING.

AND USUALLY THE FIRE MARSHALL BRINGS THAT TO US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS THE GREENEST TIME OF THE YEAR.

I'D RATHER HAVE FIREWORKS DURING THE GREENTOWN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.

NOT AN EMOTIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S SO GREEN.

WE'RE IN JULY, EVERYTHING'S BURNING UP.

YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, IF I HAD TO DO ONE OR THE OTHER, I'D RATHER DO THAT JUST FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THIS OPTION FOR JULY.

THIS IS A, THIS IS AN OPTION.

IT'S THIS OPTION.

YOU HAVE THE STATE THAT GIVES THEM OPTION HERE.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT, BUT UH, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THE CODE WITHIN THEM.

AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT MAYBE WAITING CLOSER IN TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AND BRING IT TO THE COURT AND THEN I GUESS MARY OR WE WOULD HAVE TIME FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY CONCERNS I WOULD HAVE.

BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE OPENING UP THE STATE, SO MAYBE IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO WHENEVER HE CALLED ME OR SO, UH, MAYBE WE COULD JUST INSERT SOME LANGUAGE IN THIS, IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT, THAT SALES WOULD FOLLOW THE GOVERNOR'S GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THEM.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE IS, IS UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 50 PEOPLE CROWDED AROUND THAT, THAT OPEN WINDOW, LET ME, LET ME SUGGEST, I, I FEEL PRETTY SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE COMING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP STATEWIDE TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE GOVERNOR PROBABLY IN THE NEXT, I WOULD GUESS ON THE NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE, UH, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A POSITION, SORRY TO TAKE A STAND ON THIS, BUT THAT'S A BAD CHOICE OF WORDS.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE A POSITION ON THIS.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT TABLING THIS? UNTIL WE FIND OUT HOW THIS FITS INTO THE COVERT DISCUSSION AND WHETHER OR NOT, CAUSE I COULD SEE A SITUATION WHERE WE AUTHORIZE IT AND THEN THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T AUTHORIZE IT AND NOW WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WITH, YOU'RE HEARING ONE THING FROM US AND SOMETHING ELSE FROM THE GOVERNOR.

BUT UNLESS, UNLESS WE SAY A SUIT IN THE MOTION, MAKE IT SUPERSEDED.

IF THE GOVERNOR DOES COME IN AND CHANGE IT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.

IF HE SAID IT WOULDN'T DO THERE.

YEAH.

WELL WE DO HAVE TIME.

I MEAN MORE OR LESS THE 25TH OF NEXT MONTH.

SO, UH, WOULD YOU, UH, WOULD YOU WANT TO TABLE IT UNTIL, YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THAN THAT.

THAT WAY WE WON'T BE GIVEN EVERY, WE WON'T BE GIVING TWO DIFFERENT ABLE, WE'LL BE HEARING TWO DIFFERENT ANSWERS AND WE'LL KNOW.

WE'LL HAVE CLARIFICATION.

I'M SURE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AS LONG AS THERE IS ALMOST EVERYBODY AGREES UP HERE, BUT I JUST HATE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN WHEN WE GIVE OUR BLESSINGS AND THEN SOMETHING.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 12 Y'ALL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TABLE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE EMOTIONAL QUESTION.

BARBARA TO TABLE ITEM 12 IS OUR SECOND.

I'LL SAY AGAIN SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

[13. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/consider/approve reclassification of Road and Bridge employees and related salary changes.]

ITEM 13, COMMISSIONER BOB GUSHER.

JUST ALL HERE, ALL OVER THE PLACE.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVED RECLASSIFICATION OF ROAD AND BRIDGE EMPLOYEES AND RELATED SALARY CHANGES.

OKAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME ACTUALLY A SLIGHTLY BEFORE AND DURING OUR LAST BUDGET DELIBERATIONS.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MARY IN HR.

UM, UH, KAREN, UH, HAS HAD QUITE A BIT OF INPUT ON IT AS WELL.

AND WHAT WE DID IS, UM, MIKE AND I PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF OUR, ALL THE FOREMANS AND ALL AND ALL THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CREWS, UH, TO DISCUSS WHERE WE ARE ON SALARIES WITH THEM.

AND WE WORKED ON THIS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN THE YEAR, I GUESS IT WAS EVEN TOWARDS LAST LAST YEAR DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.

AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT TOGETHER BEFORE THE END, BUT WE JUST COULDN'T GET ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT WE NEEDED AND ALL THE DATA AND THAT WE NEEDED.

WELL, SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP IT AND PUT IT TOGETHER WITH A LOT OF WORK AND HELP FROM, UH, FROM MARY ON THIS AND HER STAFF AS WELL.

AND WHAT WE DID IS WE CAME UP WITH THE CLASSIFICATIONS FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL, UH, POSITIONS, UH, THAT, UH, OUR GUYS HOLD WITH US ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CREWS.

AND THEY RANGE ANYWHERE FROM, YOU KNOW, A STARTING SALARY AROUND 34,000, UH, WHICH COULD ACTUALLY GO UP, UH, IN THE FORM OF HIS CASE UP TO AS MUCH AS 57,000.

AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT ON THIS WAS WE DID LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES AND WHAT THEY'RE PAYING.

WE DID LOOK AT UH, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AS WELL CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I RUN INTO IN PARTICULAR IN PRECINCT THREE IS I HAVE LOST SOME EMPLOYEES TO A PRIVATE INDUSTRY OUT THERE WHERE THEY'RE PAYING MUCH MORE, ALTHOUGH WE DO OFFER OTHER BENEFITS THAT MAYBE SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES DON'T.

BUT OF COURSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND YOU KNOW, BOTTOM LINE NUMBER, WHAT ARE THEY MAKING? AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THESE CLASSIFICATIONS AND UH, BE ABLE TO ANYWHERE.

I FEEL LIKE THAT, UH, BREAKING THIS DOWN THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE IT JUSTIFIES THE SALARIES FOR THOSE RANGES.

AND, UH, ONE THING THAT WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT RIGHT NOW, ANY WAY TO MAKE THESE CHANGES EFFECTIVE

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NOW IT IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT OUR BUDGET AT ALL.

WE DO HAVE THE MONEY IN THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE TO PUT IT IN THERE AGAIN FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT UH, IN MY CASE FOR SURE AND MIKE LOOKED AT HIS, UM, I BELIEVE SKATES LOOKED AT HIS AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE KEN IS ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH US IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE SO THAT NOT ONLY FOR NOW BUT IN THE FUTURE, OTHER COMMISSIONERS COME IN, EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.

CAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT I DISCOVERED WHEN I CAME ON BOARD IS EVERY PRECINCT PAID DIFFERENT MONEY FOR DIFFERENT, FOR SOME OF THE SIMILAR JOB DUTIES, WHICH DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

SO, UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, PEOPLE'S SENIORITY, LOOKED AT THEIR SKILLS, UH, CERTIFICATES.

THEY HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, TYPES OF DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO STOP RATE DIFFERENT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

WE'VE COME UP WITH THIS AND I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE PROCEED WITH THIS AND IMPLEMENT IT IMMEDIATELY AND UH, RE READJUST THESE SALARIES ACCORDINGLY IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS IS ALL THE ROAD SUPERVISORS GOT TOGETHER IN A ROOM AND TERRY AND I WERE THERE, BUT WE PROCTORED HIM.

BASICALLY.

ALL WE DID WAS JUST KEEP ME IN CHECK BECAUSE WE HAD THE PROPOSED SALARY INCREASES IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND AND AND THE GUYS, THE GUYS WORKING WITH MARY PROCTORING AND THAT THING, SHE WAS UP AT THE BOARD AND THEY WERE ALL GIVING THEIR INPUT.

WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS DEAL THAT WE DID IS THE STALL DIVIDED IN CLASSES AND THEY ALL HAVE JOB PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS OR STUFF THAT THEY CAN DO AND IT'S PROGRESSIVE AND ALSO IT TIES IN THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAME JOB DUTIES BELOW THEM.

WHAT THE ROAD SUPERVISORS DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO WAS US TO HAVE A LABEL, TRUCK DRIVER, GRATER OPERATOR OR WHATEVER, AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHERE IT'S TOO WET OR YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING BUT YOU CUTTING DOWN TREES AND THEN THEY GO, HUH, I'M A GRADER OPERATOR, I'M A DUMP TRUCK DRIVER, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN'T USE THAT AGAINST THE ROAD SUPERVISORS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM SPECIFICALLY THAT WAY.

WE AS HAVING LISTED IN CLASSES IS WHAT THEY WORKED AT.

AND ANOTHER THING THAT I KNOW, LIKE I'M COMMISSIONER KATE'S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT IS YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET THAT GUY, I MEAN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HE FOUND A GOOD GUY THAT COULD RUN A GREATER, BUT OUR STARTING SALARY WAS HERE, YOU KNOW, AND WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR AND KW REALLY IS THE ONE THAT REALLY DID THE WORK.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING FROM KAREN.

I'M SURE SHE HAS SOME INPUT, BUT KW REALLY WORKED WITH THE WOUND, DID OUR BUDGETING LAST YEAR.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE MEDIAN THAT WE HAD THAT RANGE THAT WHEN WHEN THAT GUY CAME IN THAT CAN DO RUN FIVE OR SIX PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, MAYBE RETIRING FROM THE STATE AND IT TAKES MORE THAN THE BEGINNING SALARY TO GET HIM.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE KIND OF HANDCUFFED.

SO NOW WE HAVE A VARIANCE IN THERE THAT BY JOB SKILLS THAT WE CAN GO IN AND GET THAT GUY IN AND WE'VE BUDGETED THE MONEY WITH USING THE MEDIAN SALARY SO WE HAVE EXTRA MONIES TO BE AT.

WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I KNOW IN THE PAST, I MEAN WE'VE KEPT US A SPOT OPEN FOR THAT GUY THAT'S GOING TO WALK IN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW? BUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SEE HOW FAR INTO THE BUDGET YOU ARE.

IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO PAY HIM A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT THE BEGINNING SALARY IS.

BUT THIS WAY WITH KW DID IT WITH THE MEDIAN SALARIES WORKED OUT SO, AND WE JUST HAD NEVER EMPLOYED IT.

IT KINDA CAME UP SOME DISCUSSION AND STUFF AFTER ALL THE ROAD SUPERVISORS AGREED ON THIS AND THEN IT WENT OUT AND THEN IT JUST KINDA GOT STYMIED FOR A LITTLE BIT AND IT KIND OF RESURFACED I THINK.

BUT IT REALLY GOT, IT'S A RESURFACE WITH TERRY, LOST SOMEBODY TO PRIVATE TO THE PRIVATE WORLD.

YOU HAD A GOOD HAND.

SO, AND NOW IT'S, AND EVERYBODY UP HERE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S HARD TO FILL A POSITION NOW.

I HAD ONE GUY RETIRE THAT DID EVERYTHING.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND IT'S HARD TO FEEL THOSE SKILLS, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE TALKED TO MARY ABOUT TRYING TO GET IT OUT FURTHER.

I MEAN, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, BUT THEY PUT IT IN AND PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPERS OR WASTE.

I MEAN, NOWADAYS, I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY READ THE NEWSPAPER.

SO I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE AVENUES WHERE WE CAN REACH OUT TO CERTAIN TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS AND THE CONSTRUCTION TYPES TO DO IT.

AND THIS GIVES US A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET OUR EMPLOYEES.

BUT THE BIG DEAL WAS THE GUYS WORKED ON THIS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN WITH MARY AND THEY GAVE THEIR INPUT AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SIMPLE.

IT'S NOT DRAWN OUT.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF STUFF IN IT.

IT'S, IT'S CLEAR.

AND THAT THE ROAD FOREMAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PAGEANT HOUSE, IF SUDDENLY, IF THEY'RE SO NEEDED TO DO IT.

SO, SO, UH, SO LET ME

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JUST COMMENT.

I, I'M COMPLETELY IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS CONCEPT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU GUYS GET THIS OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT I SENT AROUND YESTERDAY? UH, LET ME JUST SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

THIS IS SOME, I, I DID, I ALSO, SIX MONTHS AGO WHEN YOU STARTED THIS PROCESS, I, UM, ALONG WITH, UH, SOME HELP BY REVIEWED SALARIES FROM, UH, THE TYPICAL COUNTIES THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT.

AND, UH, AND I SORT OF, UH, CAME UP WITH THIS JUST BASICALLY IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE, UH, UH, DETAILED.

I ADDED A, I ADDED A PARTICULAR, I TERMED IT A SUPERINTENDENT.

WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE TYPICALLY CALL THAT GUY OUR SUPERVISOR.

I THINK MY SUPERVISOR IS THAT, THAT REALLY IS HIS JOB TITLE, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, WHERE AT THE SAME, ROUGHLY AT THE SAME SALARY RANGES, ALTHOUGH I THINK MINE, UH, IN THIS PROPOSAL STARTS SLIGHTLY HIGHER FROM 34 TO 37.

UH, THE, THE ONE CRITICAL THING THAT I LEAST LIKE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IS IN THE PROPOSAL THAT THAT'S PERFORMED TODAY, UH, DO TALK ABOUT SALARY RANGES.

YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, A CLASS TWO RANGES FROM 37 ONE 30 TO 40 TO ONE 30.

UH, I, I PROPOSED SPECIFYING MA MAKING A SPECIFIC SALARY RANGES SO THAT WE DON'T WIND UP STILL HAVING THAT SUBJECTIVE DETERMINATION WITHIN THOSE SALARY RANGES.

SO I PROPOSE A LOW SALARY RANGE OF MID AND A HYDE, UH, DEPENDING ON THEIR SKILL LEVELS AND THEIR, THEIR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

UM, I, I JUST ASKED YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND, UH, IT BASICALLY COVERS EVERY BASE I THINK THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE AND, AND MAYBE JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE, UH, DETAILED.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANY TITLE OR ANYTHING, BUT I, I, I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT ABSOLUTELY.

COMMISSIONER HONDA'S CORRECT.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S BECOMES ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO BOTH RECRUIT AND RETAIN QUALIFIED OPERATORS.

UM, AT THE, AT THE SALARY LEVEL THAT WE ARE AT NOW, MY PRECINCT HAS HAD AS MANY AS, AS THREE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR VACANCIES FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.

UH, AND THEN WHEN I'M ABLE TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY CANDIDATE AND GET, GET THE GUY ON BOARD, UM, I'VE HAD, UH, TWO INSTANCES WHERE WITHIN ABOUT TWO MONTHS THEY JUST ARE OFFERED MORE MONEY THERE, UP THE ROAD IN DALLAS OR OUT IN THE, OUT IN THE OIL PATCH.

AND, UH, THEN I'M BACK DOWN TO THE BARE MINIMUM FOR EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, WHICH REQUIRES ME TO PUT MY SUPERVISOR ON THE ROAD AS EQUIPMENT OPERATOR.

SO OUR, OUR EFFICIENCY IS DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED.

AND, UH, UH, I CERTAINLY THINK WE DO NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK.

AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SALARY STUDY, UM, THAT WE APPROVED ALREADY, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT TRYING TO, UH, NOT ONLY RETAIN BUT RECRUIT THESE QUALIFIED OPERATORS.

AND I THINK IT'S EVEN, IT'S EVEN MORE CRITICAL NOW THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER THIS PHASE OF, UH, OF ROAD BOND FUNDING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SIMPLIFY IT.

THE BROTHER-IN-LAW SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, BUT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE SUBJECTIVE.

EVEN WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ONE SALARY AND YOU HAVE A MID, LOW, MID AND A HIGH IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S STILL SUBJECTIVE.

I MADE IT, SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION, HEY, THIS GUY'S WORTH THAT.

SO, WELL THAT'S TRUE.

I MEAN, SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING THAT AWAY, BUT BY DOING THAT, BUT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE RANGES IS, I MEAN, IF WE CAN GET THEM AT A CLASS TWO IN, SAY IT STARTS AT 30, YOU KNOW, SAY THEY'RE LOCKED, WE GET THEM FOR 38 AND THE RANGE GOES UP TO 42.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY CAN DO AND SOMEONE'S TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER IT'S US AS COMMISSIONERS OR THE PEOPLE THAT CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITH THEM OR, OR, OR, OR KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE, I THINK THE, PROBABLY THE BENEFIT THAT'S ADDED BY HAVING SPECIFIED RANGES LOW, MID, AND HIGH IS IT, IT'S A, IT'S AN INCENTIVE FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONCE HE GETS ON, UH, AS HE DEVELOPS HIS SKILL AND DEMONSTRATES IT, HE, HE CAN SEE IN BLACK AND WHITE.

IF I, IF I STAY HERE THIS LONG, IF I'VE DEVELOPED THIS NEW SKILL THAT I CAN MOVE FROM DEFINITIVELY, I KNOW I CAN MOVE FROM 37 TO 38, EIGHT 50.

UH, IT JUST, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN THE, YOU AS A COMMISSIONER WOULD STILL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU

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EMPLOY THESE PEOPLE, WHERE THEY START, BUT, UH, BY HAVING SPECIFIED, UH, AND, AND, UH, PUBLISHED SALARIES, IT JUST SORTA IN MY MIND INCENTIVIZES A GUY'S, UH, INTEREST IN, WELL, I WANT TO LEARN TO RUN THE BACKHOE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE IF I HAD THIS SKILL THAT I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SALARY LEVEL THAT I COULD, THAT I COULD HAVE.

YEAH.

UH, IF I HAD THAT IN, SO LIKE, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE WAY THIS, IN THE ONE THAT WAS TODAY, THE RANGE IS 37 TO 42 AND WE STARTED AT 38 OR ARE WE STARTING AT 30? OR HE GETS BUMPED UP TO WHATEVER, BUT THEY KNOW THAT THE TOP OUT IS 42.

SO THEY STILL KNOW THAT THERE'S RAISES IN THERE.

I MEAN JUST GO INTO A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT VERSUS HAVING SOME LATITUDE.

IS THAT SUCH A BIG DEAL? CAUSE I MEAN IT'S REALLY THE SAME THING, JUST, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE AS A PROPOSAL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER FOR MIDPOINT OR HOT IF WE JUST HAVE THE LOW AND THE HIGH AND IT'S SUBJECTIVE TOO.

AND SURE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOCK OUT THE, THE BROTHER-IN-LAW STUFF.

I MEAN IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

HOPEFULLY THAT WITH US MONITORING IT WITH OUR PEOPLE THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO YEAH, I JUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT MARRIED TO THIS, BUT JUST TO YEAH.

YOU KNOW, A COUNTER COUNTERPROPOSAL IF YOU WILL, OR A LITTLE MORE DETAILED PROPOSAL.

YEAH.

UM, I JUST THINK IT, IT ALSO TENDS TO ALMOST GUARANTEED SOME CONSISTENCY BECAUSE AS YOU POINT OUT, FACES ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT CHANGE.

YEAH.

PEOPLE'S, UH, PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, BEING ABLE TO EVALUATE VALUES CHANGED TOO.

I MEAN, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS TERRIBLE TO SAY THAT, BUT THEY DO.

AND IT, UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE DID ON OURS VERSUS THE ONE THAT YOU PROPOSED HERE IS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, UH, THE TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE AND WE KEPT IT GENERIC, APPROPRIATE, VALID.

TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE HAD EVERY CLASS ALL THE WAY UP.

AND SO THAT WAY, UH, I KNOW COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SPECIFICALLY HAD PEOPLE THAT DROVE THE SMALLER DUMP TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN KIND OF CONGESTED AREAS.

THEY DON'T DRIVE THE BIG TRUCKS ALL THE TIME.

THE SMALLER DRIVE, THE SMALLER DUMP TRUCKS, BUT THEY CAN RUN A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.

SO THE WAY IT WAS WITH THE CLASS B OR CDL B, IT KEEPS THEM WITHIN THAT, THAT LOWER CLASS WHENEVER THEY CAN ACTUALLY RUN A LOT OF THE COMPLICATED EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

SO THEY NEED TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THAT.

SO THE RANGE IS WORK OUT BETTER FOR THAT TYPE OF STUFF TO THIS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST TOTALLY, AND THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE GUYS, THE GUYS DID NOT WANT TO GET TIED DOWN TO SPECIFICS, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE COULD THROW IT BACK IN THEIR FACE, YOU KNOW, THAT.

BUT THEY SPENT ALL AFTERNOON AND THEY WORKED HARD.

AND THEN MARY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN SHE DID A GOOD JOB PROCTORING AND GETTING STUFF OUT OF THEM AND TEARING OUT PRETTY MUCH JUST SAT AND WATCHED AND JUST KIND OF RANDOM IN WHEN YOU, WHY'S THAT? THEY STAYED WITHIN THE DOLLAR MASS THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING BUDGETING.

WELL WE WANT TO PUT A VOTE TO CONSIDER ONE OR THE OTHER OR THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL I LIKE, WE'RE OTHER THAN WE'RE STILL THERE, WE CAN STILL ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING.

AND IS THAT GOING TO BE IN THIS ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE, IT'S GOING TO BE THE FORMAL TITLE LIKE MARY, ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE? FOR INSTANCE, MY SUPERVISOR'S CURRENT TITLE IS SUPERVISOR.

SO WILL WE READJUST ALL THAT.

AND THIS DID COME UP BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE THING WHERE THE SUPERVISOR DEAL, TERRY AS A SUPERVISOR, I NOT EVERYBODY HAS ONE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE A SUPERVISOR AND A FOREMAN, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE JUST A SUPERVISOR IN NO FOREMAN.

I HAVE A SUPERVISOR IN TWO AND NO FORMAT, NO FORMAT C.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A NAME I THINK.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT MOMMY IS INFORMING.

I THINK.

I THINK I CALL HIM.

I THINK SO.

SO THE TWO FOR THEM AND NOT SAY I HAVE A FOURTH ONE AND TWO ASSISTANT.

I HAVE A SUPERVISOR AND TWO FOREMAN.

SO I GUESS, AND I MEAN IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LINGUISTICS, WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.

I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, I MEAN FOR WHATEVER THEIR DUTIES ARE AND FALLING INTO THAT, YOU CAN CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT AND GO HOME.

YEAH.

WELL I MEAN, BUT IT WOULD STANDARDIZE IT IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE, RATHER STANDARDIZE IT.

I DID TELL YOU, I WRITE THE WORD SUPERVISOR MYSELF.

VETERAN SUPERINTENDENT JUST CARRIES ON THAT.

THAT'S FINE.

SO RATHER THAN THEN THEN MAKE THEM AN ASSISTANT.

I MEAN FOR US UNDER THE ASSISTANT

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PERFORMANCE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO THAT, THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

THAT MAKE ME MAKE THEIR HEADS SWELL.

THE TITLE AND WHEN WE MAKE THESE SALARY RANGES AFFECT, IF I'M A, I HAVE IN MY BUDGET TO START AS SOON AS CARRIER TO PUT IT INTO THE NEXT, I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH AND AND AND CLASSIFIED ALL OF OUR GUYS WITHIN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

EVEN ORIGINALLY LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WE WENT AHEAD AND CLASSIFIED OUR GUYS.

NOW SOME OF THE FACES HAVE CHANGED CAUSE THE GUY RETIRED AND GOT A NEW EMPLOYEE.

SO, BUT THEN SO THAT THAT'S THE LAST DOLLAR AMOUNT REALLY WE HAD WAS WHENEVER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO I MEAN THAT'S FINE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE JUST IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET NOW.

THERE'S NO, YEAH IT WAS GOING TO BE AN IMPACT.

DO I HAVE NO IMPACT? CLARIFY SOMETHING.

Y'ALL ADOPTED THIS BUDGET.

WE HAD A SHEET, WE PUT PEOPLE IN THERE, CERTAIN PENS.

WE SAID THAT WAS IT FOR THIS BUDGET.

THE ONLY WAY I TOLD YOU YOU COULD DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW IS RECLASSIFICATION.

I DON'T WANT THAT CLARIFIED.

AND THEN YOU GOT YOU POSITIONS, YOU ADJUST THESE PEOPLE.

I'M TAKING AWAY FROM THOSE POSITIONS.

NOT GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE FEW PLACES REPLACE PEOPLE.

SO IT IS .

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I DID MINE.

THAT'S HOW I FIGURED IT ANYWAY, JUST RECLASSIFYING EVERYBODY WITHIN.

WHAT'S THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS? YEAH, JUST WORKING ON IT.

SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T.

SOME OF MY GUYS DIDN'T CHANGE.

YEAH, MINE.

MINE TOO.

I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF, THEY DID REALLY.

BUT, UH, THE ONE THING TOO THAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS, I MEAN THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S JUST COME UP.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO GET IT TOGETHER DURING THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE JUST, WE WEREN'T THERE YET.

WE DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED, I THINK TO DO IT.

AND, UH, SO, UM, NOW ONE THING THAT I DID MENTION, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS ABOUT THIS, THAT IF WE DO THIS NOW, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE, UH, THESE EMPLOYEES, THESE RAISES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR, OUR BUDGET.

I HAVE THE MONEY IN MY BUDGET TO DO THIS.

UM, THEN THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I MADE, UH, AND I, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T BROUGHT THIS UP TO MY GUYS YET OR NOT.

UH, BUT IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, IF EVERYBODY ELSE GETS, YOU KNOW, 3% OF WHATEVER, LIKE WE WERE ABLE TO DO LAST TIME, THEY WON'T GET IT THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY GOT EMIT HERE.

RIGHT.

AND WE CAN PASS THEM OVER THIS TIME AROUND FOR THAT, BUT THEN NEXT TIME THEY'D GET A REGULAR RAISE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS ABOUT IT.

COST OF LIVING AND COST OF LIVING RANG HAVE NOT THE SAME AS A SALARY RANGE.

RIGHT.

SO IF YOU GIVE A COST TO LIVING RAINS ALMOST HOURS WITH JANE, I MEAN, I'M WONDERING IF, BUT WE DIDN'T DO, WE HAVEN'T, WE DIDN'T DO IT.

COST OF LIVING RAISE LAST YEAR.

I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY HAS DONE WHATEVER YOU, YOU'RE GIVEN THERE'S A COST TO LIVING, RIGHT? IF YOU GIVE A COST OF LIVING RAISES, COST OF LIVING, RIGHT? YEAH.

IF IT'S A SALARY IN GRACE, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, WHAT'D YOU SAY, KAREN? I SAID DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, IF IT WAS UNDER 45,000 YOU DID 3% IF IT WAS OVER THAT YOU GOT ANYTHING OVER 70 NOBODY GOT ANYTHING.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ANSWER HERE IS, UH, BUT TO ME IN A SENSE THAT IF THESE PEOPLE, IF THE RACHEL CREWS GET THESE RECLASSIFICATIONS WITH A WAGE INCREASE, ARE THEY GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO ANOTHER WAGE INCREASE AND WHAT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS? YEAH.

WELL I MEAN THERE'S THAT WHAT YOUR INTEGRITY I GUESS LAST YEAR.

CAUSE I'M SORRY, SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

I SAID THAT THAT DILEMMA KIND OF LEADS ME TO THINK THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT THIS, BUT PERHAPS DELAY ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION UNTIL TEN ONE WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU CAN NOW USE AS FAR AS THE MONEY ENDED UP? IT GOES, WHERE ARE YOU AT ON THAT? YOU ARE THE GOVERNING BOARD.

I'M NOT GETTING IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO UPSET A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.

I WILL SAY THIS, IT'S RE IT'S THE STUFF THAT KW DID DO THE MEDIAN SALARIES.

SO WE WERE ACTIVELY DOING THIS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IF WE HAD STAYED ON TASK AND NOT GOT SIDETRACKED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE FINANCIALLY WE HAVE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR ADJUSTMENTS.

WE HAD MONEY.

THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST, THE MEDIAN SALARY FOR EVERYBODY.

IT WAS PUT IN ADDITIONAL POSITIONS.

IT WASN'T PUT AS RAISES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DEB, YOU DID NOT INFORM ME THAT HE DID THIS UNTIL AFTER IT WAS DONE.

OKAY.

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THE DILEMMA WAS WHILE WE WERE SUFFERING WAS HAVING A SPECIFIC HIRING AMOUNT AND WE WANTED TO REIGN SO WE COULD PAY FOR THEIR EXPERTISE OR THEIR ABILITIES, ESPECIALLY YOUR BUFFER IN THERE.

SO THE BUFFER WAS IN POSITIONS DUE TO MAKE UP WHAT HE ADDRESSED TO AS A MEDIAN SALARY OF 41 YES SIR.

OKAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALREADY GAVE THOSE PERCENTAGES TO EVERYBODY AND Y'ALL MADE THOSE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

NOW YOU'RE COMING BACK AND WANTING TO DO AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN THE SALARY THING COMES BACK AND THEY SAY, WE NEED TO ADJUST SOME MORE.

OKAY.

THE SALARY SURVEY THING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THE STUDY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE THESE PEOPLE PRICE STILL WRONG ARE IN ANOTHER AREA.

SO I'M JUST, OH, I'M SURE WOULD BE REAL CAREFUL WHAT YOU'RE FIXING TO DO.

YEAH.

WELL I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DONE, UH, SOME RESEARCH ON THIS AS FAR AS WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE PAYING FOR THESE SAME POSITIONS AND EVEN IN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE PRIVATE WORLD AS WELL.

UM, I, I WOULD BE REALLY SURPRISED IF THE STUDY CAME BACK WITH MORE THAN THIS AND IF IT DID, I MEAN THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE JUST WOULDN'T HAVE LOOKED YET.

I THINK WE'RE WAY ON, IF YOU, IF YOU HIRE A CDL DRIVER, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NO, THAT MAKE 90,000, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR AND WE DON'T PAY HIM WITH OTHER COUNTIES THOUGH.

I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO DO COUNTY TO COUNTY, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO COMPETE COUNTY TO COUNTY AND WE JUST HAVE TO PAY WHAT WE CAN PAY.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST ISSUE I THINK THAT Y'ALL WERE DISCUSSING WAS THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THIS RANGE IN HERE, GOES TO WORK SEASONS FIXING THE START FOR ROME GREATER PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU LOSE THEM.

AS SOON AS ALL THESE OTHER COMPANIES START HIRING AND WE'VE MET, THEY'VE ALL BEEN DORMANT FOR WINTER, ALL THESE PEOPLE.

SO NOW THEY'RE GOING TO START HIRING PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU LOSE.

WE ALWAYS LOSE PEOPLE IN MAY, JUNE AND JULY IN OUR PEAK SEASON.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST INDEPENDENT TERRY'S MOTION I THINK TO TRY TO READJUST SOME OF THESE ROAD GRADE DRIVERS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO SAVE THE STATE.

I HEAR TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE OF THEM IS, UH, THE FIRST THREE, THE FIRST TWO, THE FIRST TWO QUESTIONS IS, UH, IF, IF WE VOTE ON THIS, DO YOU WANT THIS TO TAKE PLACE AS SOON AS IT CAN PRACTICALLY BE WORKED OUT OR DO YOU WANT IT TO TAKE PLACE FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE? I'D LIKE TO DO RIGHT NOW.

TAKE PLACE NOW FOR THAT VERY REASON THAT SKI JUST MENTIONED CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO YOUR OPINION.

YES.

IS THAT YOUR OPINION? IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN DO IT BUDGET WISE.

YES.

SO RECLASSIFY THAT WAS THEN Y'ALL ARE SAYING YOU GOT THE MONEY BUDGET IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME WE DO DO WELL IS THEY HAVE MONEY.

WELL MY MONEY, I MEAN AS KAREN POINTS OUT ARE, MY SHOWERS ARE CUT UP INTO SOME VACANT POSITIONS WHICH I INTENDED TO FILL BASICALLY WITH PATCH CREW GUYS THIS SUMMER.

YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'S MY THING IS NEED.

YOU COULD, YOU COULD PUT MONEY INTO THE LAND ON THEM RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT TO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DECIDING RIGHT HERE.

IF YOU HAVE MONEY AND TO CONTINUE TO DO, YOU COULD MOVE SOMETHING IN THERE IF YOU NEED TO.

OKAY.

SO WHERE ARE YOU TAKING IT? UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S THE PREVAILING, THE PREVAILING INTENTION IS TO DO THIS, UH, AS SOON AS IT CAN BE ARRANGED PRACTICALLY NOT WAIT TILL THE BUDGET.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, UH, HAS TO DO WITH WHICH WERE THESE TWO OR ARE WE GOING TO DO ANY CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL THAT TERRY PUT INTO THE AGENDA? ADDING, MAKING ANY OF THESE CHANGES? CAUSE I'M NOT CLEAR OFF THEIR DISCUSSION.

IF Y'ALL THINK THAT SOME OF THESE FROM COMMISSIONER CASE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT OR NOT.

WELL I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

WE'RE AT, I MEAN WE'RE BASICALLY REAL CLOSE TO THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING AND ONLY DIFFERENCES SPECIFICALLY BREAKING IT DOWN LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS HOW THEY WANT TO DO THAT.

UH, AND THEN MAYBE YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR OR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET WE COULD CONSIDER IF THIS DOES COME BACK FROM THE SURVEY THAT THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, NEEDS FOR CHANGES THEN YEAH WE COULD CONSIDER MOVING UP FROM THAT POINT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WITH WHAT WOULD THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL IS AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH IT TODAY IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

AND SO THAT'LL BE THAT WE WILL ELIMINATE THE TITLE OF SUPERVISOR MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, NOT SUPERINTENDENT.

RIGHT.

ROSLYN FOREMAN.

WHAT? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? I MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE A SUPERVISOR ON THE, WHAT I HEAR, I HAVEN'T THE STOPS WITH FOREMAN.

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JUDGE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE NOW CAN WE DO IT IN A NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PAY PERIOD, EITHER MIGHT GET EFFECTIVE MAY 11TH OR MAY 25TH THAT WAY.

CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE FIXING TO DO IS SEND ALL THESE FORMS TO RECLASSIFY AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ENTER THEM.

THEN I GOT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE RIGHT AND THAT THEY'RE IN BUDGET.

SO THAT'LL GIVE US SOME TIME.

THANK YOU.

WELL LET'S DO MAY 25TH AND GIVE THEM PLENTY OF TIME IF WE DON'T DO THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE, YEP.

I THINK IN, IN, IN, IN DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE TERRY UTILIZES, THE SUPERVISORS.

FIVES ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOU UTILIZE YOUR SUPERVISOR.

SO I MEAN THAT THEY'RE REALLY TWO TECHNICALLY DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAN WHAT THE CHART HAS.

AND SINCE HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD A SUPERVISOR ABOVE A FOREMAN OR IN SOA, YOU BASICALLY, TERRY WOULD HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS.

AND I GUESS THE PAY SCALE IS BASICALLY THE SAME.

IT'S JUST THE ROLES ARE DIFFERENT.

RIGHT.

BUT ISN'T THE GOAL HERE TO HAVE A STANDARD? SURE, SURE.

EVERY PRECINCT WILL HAVE THE SAME JOB TITLE, BUT THAT'S OBJECTIVE.

I REALLY MY, FOR THE LACK OF MY BUY FORM AND MY ROAD SUPERVISOR OR WHATEVER IS MY MANAGER.

RIGHT.

I MEAN I DON'T HAVE TO, BUT THAT'S BY MY CHOICE.

HE'S AN EXCELLENT MANAGER, YOU KNOW, SO WHERE YOU USE YOUR SUPERVISOR AS A MACHINE OPERATOR AND I ONLY DO THAT BECAUSE I LACK, I KNOW, BUT, BUT YOU DO WHERE I DON'T, I JUST GOT TO BE REALLY BAD.

LIKE IN THE POSITION, LIKE YOU, MY GUY WILL BE RUNNING EQUIPMENT, BUT I MEAN HE DOES.

HE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A YARD OR WHATEVER.

HE'S STOCKING STUFF AND, BUT HIS MAIN RESPONSIBILITY IS MANAGING, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHANGING HIS TITLE OF SUPERVISOR.

BUT JUST, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S NO RESPONSIBILITIES.

MY GUY IS, HE'S CLASSIFIED HIS JOB DESCRIPTION THAT I RENTED HIM ON THAT HE'S WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

HIS TITLE IS SUPERVISOR.

SO I'M ASKING ARE WE ELIMINATING THE TITLE OF SUPERVISOR BECAUSE THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT I GOT FROM YOU GUYS STOPS IT FORM IT.

YEAH.

CAN YOU CHANGE THE NAME FOR, CAN YOU SCRATCH FOREMAN ON THAT AND MAKE IT SUPERVISOR? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NOW THE ONLY PROBLEM WOULD BE WOULD BE THE TERRY HAS TWO SUPERVISORS.

WELL YEAH, CHANGED HIS NAME ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU CAN'T SCRATCH FOREMAN BECAUSE I HAVE TWO FORMS. WELL, BUT IF I SCRATCH, WE HAVE ASSISTANT FOREMEN.

SO YOU COULD, YOU COULD SCRATCH THIS.

JUST TRYING TO MOVE THIS THING ALONG GUYS.

YEAH.

SO YOU CHANGE THE LAST BLOCK FROM FOREMAN TO SUPERVISOR.

YOU CHANGE ASSISTANT FOREMAN TO FOREMAN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IS THAT CLEAR? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ASSISTANT FOREMAN, THEN YOU JUST PUT HIM IN THERE IS A SYSTEM FOR HIM.

NO, NO MORMON.

THEY'RE ELIMINATING THAT TITLE.

JUST ELIMINATING THE TITLE.

YEAH.

BUT I MEANT IT JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER FORM.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I DON'T CARE.

OKAY.

I DON'T CARE ANYWAY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR COMPANY.

SO IN YOUR, SO IF YOU'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TERRI, UH, IN YOUR, IN YOUR MOTION, YOU, SINCE THAT'S THE DOCUMENT, WOULD YOU MAKE THAT CLEAR? THAT SHOULD READ THOSE POSITIONS OFF? I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER.

YEAH.

MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS WHERE WE HAVE THE CLASSIFICATIONS IS CLASS ONE A SALARY RANGE 34,001 30 THROUGH 39,130 CLASSIFICATION TO A 37,130 THROUGH 40 2001 30 CLASS VACATION, THREE 40,000 1303405000 ONE 30 CLASSIFICATION FOR A 43,000 1303408140.

THEN WE WERE CHANGING THE ASSISTANT FORM ENTITLED TO FOREMAN WITH A RANGE OF 40 3003 13 TO FIVE 50,006 31 AND CHANGING FORM AND TITLE TO SUPERVISOR SALARY RANGE 54,060 TO 57,000.

AND UH, IF I COULD, UH, JUST ASK YOU TO AMEND THAT MOTION.

THAT IS A MOTION I THINK AMENDED TO BE EFFECTIVE.

FIVE 25 YES.

THAT WOULD MAKE THAT UH, THE EFFECT OF FIVE 25, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE, ALL THE PAPERWORK, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE.

SO.

OKAY, WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE,

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THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

AT MOTION CARRIES.

[14. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider requesting relief efforts from the Governor and adopting resolution for property owners regarding 2020 property appraisals.]

KOSHER BORROWER DISCUSSED CONSIDER REQUESTING RELIEF EFFORTS FROM THE GOVERNOR IN ADOPTING A RESOLUTION FOR PROPERTY OWNERS REGARDING 20, 20 PROPERTY APPRAISALS.

WAS THAT NEXT? OKAY.

SORRY.

THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE DEAL.

I THOUGHT I WAS OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I DO HAVE A RESOLUTION HERE THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, UH, I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE UNREASONABLE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES BEING IMPOSED ON OUR RESIDENTS.

UH, FIRST I WANT TO THANK, UM, OUR ONE OF OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S DEBBIE BOND FOR HER SYSTEM AND PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER.

AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE RESOLUTION ITSELF, SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB FINDING THE INFORMATION THAT I NEEDED.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UH, LAST YEAR, UH, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT SENT OUT NOTICES OF PROPERTY TAX INCREASES TO NUMEROUS RESIDENTS, LAND OWNERS AND BUSINESSES WITH INCREASES IN SOME CASES AS MUCH AS 400% OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY JUDGE RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE TAX INCREASES AND WE WERE BLAMED FOR THOSE INCREASES.

WE HAD EXPLAINED THAT AS I, WELL NOW THAT THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS NO AUTHORITY OR JURISDICTION OVER THE COFFIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND WE DO AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SETTING PROPERTY TAX VALUES.

THIS RESPONSIBILITY REST WITH THE COFFIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IN AUSTIN.

THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES NOT TAKE DIRECTION OR ORDERS FROM THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THEY DO NOT CONSULT WITH US OR ANSWER TO US.

WE DO, HOWEVER, HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SETTING THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE THAT WE ALL PAY TO COVER THE COST OF OPERATING OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

SOME EXAMPLES OF THIS INCLUDE SUCH SERVICES AS ROAD AND BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION, REPAIR, MAINTENANCE AND FUNDING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES SUCH JUST TO MENTION A FEW AFTER NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS WE DEALT WITH LAST YEAR OVER THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES.

THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT LOWERED THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE BY ALMOST 9% IN AN EFFORT TO GIVE SOME RELIEF FROM THE INCREASED PROPERTY TAX VALUES OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS.

WE JUST STARTED TO GET THE SAME COMPLAINTS ABOUT UNREASONABLE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES AGAIN FOR 2020 AND AGAIN WITH THIS, SOME OF THESE CASES BEING AS MUCH AS 400% I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THOSE MYSELF.

PEOPLE HAD BOUGHT THEM TO MY OFFICE.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE THAT THE REASON FOR THE EXCESSIVE INCREASES IS DUE TO PREVIOUS YEARS BEING UNDER APPRAISED AND THEY MUST GET CAUGHT UP AND BRING PROPERTY VALUES UP TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THIS OCCURRED AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO MAKE SOMETHING RIGHT FOR THE APPRAISAL JUROR STATE OR THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE THAT THEY DID NOT CAUSE.

I KNOW THE 2020 PROPERTY TAX INCREASES WERE DEVELOPED BEFORE THE COVEN 19 PATENT DIMMICK STRUCK AND CAUSED SO MUCH FINANCIAL DEVASTATION WITH CLOSED BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE OUT OF WORK.

BUT SINCE THEN, UNPRECEDENTED FINANCIAL LOSSES HAVE OCCURRED TO FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

OUR WORLDS HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR AND THIS MUST BE CONSIDERED BEFORE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO ENDURE EVEN MORE HARDSHIP FROM PROPERTY TAX INCREASES.

PEOPLE ARE BEING TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES IMPOSED ON THEM.

THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT STEPPED UP LAST YEAR TO ASSIST AS MUCH AS WE COULD BY DECREASING THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE BY ALMOST 9% WE WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO HOLD THE TAXES DOWN THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER WHEN WE DELIBERATE THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 2021 WITH ALL THIS SAID, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MY MESSAGE TO GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT, COMPTROLLER, GLEN HAGAR, AND OUR LOCAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS NOW IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING IS I WILL NOW STATE IN MY PROPOSED RESOLUTION FOR THIS COURT.

THIS RESOLUTION IS IN SUPPORT OF TAXPAYER RELIEF DUE TO COVEN 19 DISASTER.

WHEREAS ON MARCH 13TH, 2020 A DECLARATION OF STATE OF DISASTER WAS ISSUED BY GOVERNOR ABBOTT TO TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS TO PREPARE FOR, RESPOND TO AND MITIGATE THE SPREAD OF CODE 19 TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF TEXANS.

AND WHEREAS ON MARCH 19TH, 2020 GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED EVERY PERSON IN TEXAS TO AVOID EATING OR DRINKING AT BARS, RESTAURANTS, AND FOOD COURTS OR VISITING GYMS OR MASSAGE POWERS.

AND WHEREAS ON MARCH 31ST, 2020 GOVERNOR ABBOTT, ABBOTT ORDERED EVERY PERSON IN TEXAS TO FURTHER MINIMIZE SOCIAL GATHERINGS AND IN PERSON CONTACT EXCEPT WHEN NECESSARY TO PROVIDE OR OBTAIN ESSENTIAL SERVICES THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2020 WHEREAS NON-ESSENTIAL BUSINESSES ACROSS KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE DALLAS REGION HAVE DILIGENTLY COMPLIED WITH THE ORDER TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF COVERED 19, DESPITE EXPERIENCING LOSSES OF REVENUE THAT JEOPARDIZE THE LIVELIHOOD OF THEIR BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYEES.

AS A RESULT, MORE THAN 760,000 TEXTS IN STATEWIDE APPLIED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND THE MONTH OF MARCH, A NUMBER GREATER, UH, BY 60,000 THAN THE PREVIOUS YEARS, UM, TOTALS.

WHEREAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS PAUSED MANY OF ITS REVENUE GENERATING OPERATIONS TO COMPLY WITH THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

AND WHEREAS KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS CONSISTENTLY SET PROPERTY TAX RATES AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE LEVEL

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SO THAT ITS CONSTITUENTS MAY LEAD AN AFFORDABLE HIGH QUALITY LIFESTYLE NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF THE COUNTY OF COFFIN, TEXAS.

THAT ON THIS 28TH DAY OF APRIL, 2020 COFFIN, COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, EMPLOYERS, GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT AND COMPTROLLER GLENN HAGAR TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTION TO PROVIDE ANY AND ALL TAX RELIEF TO THE BUSINESSES AND CONSTITUENTS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS DURING THE STATE OF DISASTER.

THESE ACTIONS MAY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO NUMBER ONE, EXTENDING THE DEADLINE TO PAY ALL TAXES.

NUMBER TWO, GRANTING A MORATORIUM ON PROPERTY TAX, PENALTIES AND INTERESTS.

AND NUMBER THREE, FREEZING PROPERTY VALUES AT THEIR 2019 LEVELS.

NUMBER FOUR, REIMBURSING THE SALARIES OF ESSENTIAL COUNTY PERSONNEL WHO CAN NO LONGER CARRY OUT THEIR REVENUE GENERATING DUTIES.

NUMBER FIVE, REIMBURSING THE COST OF INDIGENT AUTOPSIES AND BURIALS AND NUMBER SIX, CALLING A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER AND ENACT FURTHER MEASURES TO EASE THE ECONOMIC BURDENS AND FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS.

UH, TEXANS ARE EXPERIENCING DUE TO THE CODE 19 PANDEMIC AND A REQUEST THAT WE CONSIDER APPROVING THIS ON THIS DAY.

OKAY.

IS THAT YOUR EMOTION? YES SIR.

WE HAD THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THING.

SECOND ONE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DISCUSSION.

WELL, WOULD IT HAVE TO HAVE A, WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION? CAUSE I MEAN SOME OF THIS STUFF IS UH, CAN HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS TO DO SOME OF THIS STUFF LIKE FREEZING PROPERTY TAXES.

BUT YOU KNOW, AND IT KIND OF LEADS OFF INTO OTHER THINGS IS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE APPRAISALS, I MEAN THEY ANTICIPATED IN THEIR BUDGET FOR THEIR PRICES TO GO UP TO FUND SCHOOLS.

SO I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES ON THE OUTLYING EDGE OF ALL THIS TOO THAT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH.

THEY HAVE TO STRAIGHTEN UP, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION.

YEAH.

AND I'D LIKE TO MENTION TOO THAT, UH, OUR REPRESENTATIVE KEITH BELL, UH, HE CONCURS WITH THIS.

HE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, A SEMINAR, A LETTER THAT HE PUT TO THE GOVERNOR.

AND, UH, I DID SPEAK WITH HIM ABOUT THIS BEFORE I DECIDED TO DO THIS.

AND, UM, HE AGREED SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE DONE.

SO IN OUR COUNTY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF NEW, SO I KNOW, YEAH, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THE SLACK.

WE'RE BUILDING QUITE A BIT.

I DON'T THINK THE NEWS IS GOING TO TAKE UP A LOT OF SLACK.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, UH, JUST AS COMMISSIONER BARBER POINTED IT POINTED OUT TO FOR THE CITIZENS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE, HOW THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED AND HOW THEY REALLY ALL DO ORIGINATE WITH THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, BASED ON PROPERTY VALUES, UM, THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S, GORD HAS ZERO CONNECTIVITY TO THAT, TO THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS.

IT DEFINITELY, THERE ARE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES THAT SET THEIR OWN TECHS, UH, THAT SET THEIR OWN TAX RATES AT THIS COURT.

HAS NO SWAY OVER.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO EVERYBODY'S ACTUAL TAX BILL.

AND I'M SURE, I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S SITTING UP HERE EXPERIENCED THE SAME, UH, INCREASE IN THEIR PROPERTY TAXES THAT MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE.

AND, UH, AND CLEARLY, UH, AT THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND ABOVE, UH, THE SOLUTION TO, TO TEXAS FINANCE IS NOT TO CONTINUE TO TAX US ALL INTO THE POOR HOUSE.

SO, UH, I CERTAINLY, UH, COMMEND YOU, TERRY FOR, UH, TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT.

AND I, I, UH, I ALSO IMPLORE THE GOVERNOR TO BE RESPONSIVE TO LETTERS SUCH AS WHAT, UH, REPRESENTATIVE BELL SAID FORWARD AND TO THESE KINDS OF PROPOSALS BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T CONTINUE AT THE PACE THAT IT HAS.

I GET, UH, I PROBABLY HAD A HUNDRED CALLS, UH, OR, OR WALK INS OR ENCOUNTERS WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING MOVING OUT OF THE COUNTY.

SO, BECAUSE THE TAX BURDEN IS BECOMING SO ONEROUS, SO I, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH YOU AND SUPPORT YOU.

OKAY.

UH, UH, REGARDING ITEM, UH, 14, WE, UH, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, NO MORE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM

[15. Mary Westbrook; Discuss/Consider/Approve amending HR Policy to conform with Families First Coronavirus Response Act (FFCRA).]

15, MARY, WHISPER, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE AMENDING HR POLICY TO CONFORM WITH FAMILIES.

FIRST.

CORONA VARS, RESPONSE ACT, RUNNING JUDGING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST TO AMEND THE CURRENT HR POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN EFFECT THROUGH THE END OF APRIL.

UM, TOOK FORM WITH THE FAMILIES FIRST.

CORONAVIRUS UM, RESPONSE ACT, UM, DID GIVE YOU ALL BACKUP DOCUMENTS, UM,

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WITH YOUR GEN ADAM.

DOES ANYONE NEED ANY HARD COPIES? NO.

PRETTY, PRETTY SIMPLE.

UM, BASICALLY WE NEED A TEMPORARY, UH, POLICY ADDENDUM, UH, UNDERNEATH OUR FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT, UH, POLICY IN OUR, UH, PERSONNEL MANUAL.

UM, WE ADDED, UM, ADAM NUMBER H WHICH JUST GOES OVER THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THAT, UM, EXTENSION OF THE FMLA WILL WORK.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, I GAVE YOU ALL A COMPARISON CHART OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING NOW UNDER THE HR POLICY AND WHAT IT WOULD GO THROUGH.

UM, GO TO, UM, AS OF MAY 1ST WITH THE NEW FCRA.

IT'S PRETTY FAIR TO SAY THAT, UH, UH, THE WISE THING TO DO IS TO JUST FOLLOW THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES ON THIS AND NOT BE TRYING TO FREELANCE OUR OWN POLICY.

ABSOLUTELY.

QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR NO QUESTIONS, MARY.

YEAH.

YOU GET THE, YOU GET THE BASIC PART OF IT AND THEN AS SOON AS THIS IS APPROVED, I'LL BE SENDING OUT TO ALL LEADERS, UM, ALL THE DEFINED BULLETINS AND EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS MARIE.

UH, WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL, MEANING THE HR POLICY TO CONFORM WITH THE FAMILY FIRST.

KEREN VOXER SLANT RESPONSE ACT.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CAGE FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND IN THE SECOND SEGMENT? COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION

[16. Johnny White; Discuss/Consider approval of Pretrial Bond Supervision Department Policy and Procedures.]

CARRIES.

FINALLY, JOHNNY WHITE DISCUSSION SHOULD HER APPROVAL OF PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISION, DEPARTMENT POLICY AND PROCEDURES.

RIGHT.

YOU'VE BEEN SITTING BACK THERE SO PATIENTLY.

WE HARDLY KNEW YOU WERE HERE.

BE AS FAST AS MARY'S, HOPEFULLY.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND JUST VISIT WITH YOU FOR A FEW MINUTES.

UH, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL Y'ALL DO.

I DON'T THINK THE AVERAGE CITIZEN OUT THERE KNOWS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES ON HERE AND WHAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY DO.

SO I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL YOU DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I DID SEND OVER SOME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

WE'VE BEEN UP AND RUNNING FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS NOW.

UM, WE'VE KICKED THEM AROUND FOR AWHILE.

THEY'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE DA'S OFFICE AND PROBATION AND, UH, THE COURTS.

AND FINALLY WE'VE GOT SOME STUFF THAT, UH, WE'VE SENT OUT.

IT'S A PROPOSAL, UM, ONE CLOT SHERIFF, UH, IF IT NEEDED A VOTE, BUT IT INVOLVES FEES.

SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP AND THEY SAID IT DOESN'T HURT.

SO THAT'S WHY I SENT IT UP.

HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I DIDN'T PRINT ANOTHER COPY.

IT'S ABOUT 20 PAGES.

BUT, UH, IT'S BASICALLY WHEN, WHEN THIS DEPARTMENT FIRST, UH, FIRST CAME INTO EXISTENCE, IT WAS, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE HAD SOME GRANT MONEY AND IT WAS A DIVERSION.

SO THAT'S HOW IT WAS SET UP.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST, THE LAST YEAR, THE LAST BUDGET, WE KIND OF WENT AWAY FROM THAT.

SO PART OF, PART OF THIS IS TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT FROM PRETRIAL SERVICES OR DIVERSION DEPARTMENT, UH, BECAUSE PROBATION OFFICE DOES A LOT OF THAT.

OKAY.

SO, AND IT WAS GETTING KIND OF CLOUDY AND PEOPLE WERE CALLING AND COMING HERE AND GOING THERE.

SO, SO, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TWEAKED THE NAME TO ACTUALLY MORE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS SUPERVISING THE DEFENDANTS THAT ARE OUT OF BONDS.

SO IT'S A PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISION DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND THEN I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS TIME THAT WE PUT SOME, SOME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE AND THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

WE'VE KIND OF, UM, UH, MADE, MADE SOME CONDITIONS FOR, FOR ALL THE COURTS THAT THEY'RE USING TO BE KIND OF STREAMLINED TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

JUST TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER.

OF COURSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL SUPERVISE THOSE OFFENDERS ON WHATEVER ORDERS WE GET, BUT IT JUST KINDA, WE'VE TWEAKED THEM SO, SO THAT EVERYBODY'S COVERED OVER THE LAST YEAR WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT COURTS WERE DOING.

WE KIND OF TWEAKED IT TO MAKE IT SIMPLER AND, AND UH, I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT.

UM, THE FEES WE STARTED, UH, AGAIN, 18 MONTHS AGO, $20 A MONTH, AND THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH.

OUR GOAL IS TO EVENTUALLY BE SELF SUFFICIENT.

UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT ARE, THAT HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

THE BIGGEST MAJORITY OF THEM FALL UNDER PROBATION, BUT THERE'S TWO OR THREE IN THE STATE THAT, THAT ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

JOHNSON COUNTY IS ANOTHER ONE AND THEY'RE TOTALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT.

OF COURSE.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, SO WE WERE CHARGING $20 A MONTH AS A MONITORING FEE INITIALLY.

UH, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO TO $10 A WEEK.

SO THAT WILL BE, THAT'LL BE DOUBLING IT.

UH, WHICH AFTER ALL THE DISCUSSION, UH, I THINK THE STATUTE ALLOWS FOR 25 TO 60.

UM, AND PROBATION CHARGES YOU 60.

UH, BUT WE DECIDED TO JUST GO TO THE $10 A WEEK, WHICH WILL BE 40 A MONTH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS DOUBLING IT FOR NOW.

AND WE'LL GET OUR FEET WET WITH THAT FOR YEAR OR SO, AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY KICK IT UP, YOU KNOW, VM.

SO IT'S NOT JUST SUCH A SHOCK.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO GET THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A GUYS, OH, AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING, UM, WE'RE ALSO ADDING IT

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TO THE BILL OF COST ON THE END BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF THOSE.

WE'RE NOT THROWING THEM BACK IN JAIL IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR FEES, BUT WE DO LOSE A LOT OF THEM.

THEY MAY BE OUT ON BOND FOR A YEAR BEFORE THEIR CASE IS FINALLY DISPOSED.

UH, AND IF THEY DON'T PAY, THEN WE'RE LOSING THAT MONEY.

AND IN THE PAST IT JUST WAS A WASH.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TWEAKED IT AND WE'RE ADDING THAT TO THE BILL OF COSTS AT THE END IS GOING TO GO IN AS A, AS A COURT COST.

SO WE'LL GET THAT.

THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK EVENTUALLY AND IT'LL BE FUNNELED BACK THROUGH TO, TO THE DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD.

I DO HAVE, UM, THE, THE PROCEDURES HERE, I DID SEND THOSE OUT.

HOPEFULLY Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.

UM, I ALSO MADE COPIES OF OUR MONTHLY REPORT.

THIS IS JUST LAST MONTH'S REPORT.

SO YOU GUYS WILL KINDA KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, I'LL JUST PASS THOSE OUT Y'ALL.

YEAH.

WHERE WE'RE AT TRYING TO FILL THEM OUT THE JAILS AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR PR AND SOME OF THEM WAS WITH SOME SUPERVISION CONDITIONS AND KIND OF HELPS THE JAIL STAFF OUT THERE, UH, RELEASE SOME OF THAT.

UM, AND AS WELL AS JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE PENDING TRIAL THAT REALLY NEEDS SOME, SOME EXTRA SUPERVISION CAUSE A BUNCH OF THEM GET REARRESTED, MUCH OF THEM VIOLATE.

AND, UH, SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A NECESSARY AND IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT.

UH, BUT I JUST FELT LIKE AFTER 18 MONTHS OF FINALLY TWEAKING EVERYTHING AND GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SET OF PROCEDURES HERE WHERE WE CAN, UH, UH, AT LEAST GET SOMETHING STARTED.

SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR JOHNNY, WAIT ONE MORE TIME.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DON'T PAY THEIR FEES? WELL, W WE'RE NOT DOING VIOLATION REPORTS.

UH, WHEN TALKING WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND THE JUDGES, UM, WE JUST ENCOURAGE THEM STRONGLY.

WE TRY TO MAKE THEM PAY.

IT'S, IT'S $20 A MONTH, BUT SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, I DON'T HAVE IT.

I DON'T HAVE IT.

OKAY.

A LOT OF THEM ARE DRUG TESTING, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S $15.

WE CHARGED THEM FOR THAT.

UM, SO AT THE END, IT'S NOT LIKE IF THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T REPORT OR THEY GET REARRESTED ON ANOTHER OFFENSE OR THEY, OR THEY FAILED DRUG TEST AND WE REPORT THOSE, IT GOES BACK IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE MAKES A DECISION WHETHER TO HOLD THEIR BOND, INSUFFICIENT, PUT THEM BACK IN JAIL, RAISE THEIR BOND.

UH, OR ISSUE A WARRANT OR WHATEVER THEY DO.

UH, BUT ON THE FEES SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE JUST KIND OF ENCOURAGING THEM BECAUSE OF THE, THE TIMES AND THAT.

SO, UM, SOME OF THOSE WEEKS WE DO LOSE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THAT AT THE END.

THAT, SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY GO AND THEY SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO PLAY IT, I'M GOING TO GET FIVE YEARS PROBATION INSTEAD OF GOING TO JAIL FOR TWO YEARS, THEN THAT'S PART OF THAT AGREEMENT THAT THEY'LL HAVE.

THEY'LL HAVE EITHER REARS AND IT'LL BE JUST LIKE A FEE SCHEDULE OR PAYMENT PLAN, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER COURT COSTS.

SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS? NO, HE DIDN'T GET DOWN TO EXPLAIN IT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I ASKED GIANT, IF YOU GET WITH ME, AND THIS IS APPROVED IN COURT TODAY, THAT, UM, LIKE YOUR TOP OR WHATEVER, THAT MAY CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE NEW DEPARTMENT TITLE.

YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE BOND SUPERVISION OFFICER.

UH, AND THEN I DID, WE DID HIRE AN ASSISTANT.

SHE'LL BE AN ASSISTANT.

UH, AND THEN IF IT GROWS, CONTINUES TO GROW, WE'LL, WE'LL MODIFY, MODIFY THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO STRAIGHT UP ASSISTANT OR ANOTHER OFFICER OR WHATEVER EVENTUALLY LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I KNOW THAT THE JOHNSON COUNTY, WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH A LOT, THEY OF COURSE THEY HAVE 600,000 PEOPLE.

I THINK THEY'VE GOT A SUPERVISOR, UH, FOUR OFFICERS, TWO ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, UH, AND THERE'S THIS ALL FEED FEED BASE.

SO, UH, IT'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL OVER THERE FOR THEM.

SO.

OKAY.

THEN WHAT'S BEFORE US IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PRETRIAL BOND SUPERVISION, DEPARTMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MONEY.

WE HAD THAT MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND ONE.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.

[17. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider applying for funding through the office of the Governor, Public Safety Office, Criminal Justice Division Coronavirus Emergency Supplemental Funding (CESF) Program. FY2020.]

OKAY, NEXT UP.

PAM CORNER DISCUSSED CONSIDERING APPLYING FOR FUNDING THROUGH THE, UH, GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE OFFICER, GOVERNOR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IS CELEBRATED ON MAY 7TH, TERRIBLE.

WE'LL BE HAVING AN EVENT AND COFFIN, WE'LL HAVE AN EVENT, BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO GET TOGETHER FOR THAT.

SO LOOK FOR THAT IN AN EMAIL.

AND THEN TODAY I'M HERE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR THE KRONE VIRUS EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING.

AND THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION, THESE FUNDS MUST BE UTILIZED TO PREVENT, PREPARE FOR AND RESPOND TO THE CORONAVIRUS.

AND THIS COMES FROM A $10 MILLION, UH, POOL OF MONEY THAT IS DEDICATED TO THE COUNTIES THAT ARE IN THE 16 COUNTIES THAT ARE IN THE COG.

IT IS.

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AND THERE ARE ALSO MANY COUNTIES IN CITIES THAT HAD DIRECT FUNDING OUT OF OUR COG.

SO THAT REALLY MAKES, UM, MAKES FOR THERE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDING FOR US TO BE A PLATFORM.

HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T GET THE DOUBLE DIP.

SO WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO AUTHORIZE PAM TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION FOR FUNDING FOR SOME SHARE OF THAT $10 MILLION.

SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT IS THIS FOR? LIKE WHAT THE COUNTY, WHAT WE PAID OUT FOR? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY IS VERY MUCH LIKE THE FEMA, IT'S REALLY BE LIKE THE FAMOUS STUFF WHERE IF WE SPEND THE MONEY, UH, IF WE'RE, IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'RE CAPTURING ALL THE MONEY.

THAT WAS THE COST.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE IN SMALL BY COST.

IT WOULD, YEAH, IT DID HOWEVER MUCH MONEY THAT WE WOULD GET OUT OF THAT 10 MILLION MY WEIGHT.

BUT WE PAY HIM, WE PAY IN FRONT THE PAY.

WELL, SOME OF THESE EXPENSES ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW, BUT UH, BUT WE'LL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST ALL DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY, HOW MUCH, IF ANY, HOW MUCH GRANT FUNDING WE GET.

YEAH.

I MEAN IT'S FREE MONEY AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? SO FAR.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO AUTHORIZE PAM TO, UH, APPLY FOR THAT GRANT FUNDING.

THAT'S MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS HER SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, PAM.

THANK YOU.

YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT SITTING OUT THERE.

NOW GO BACK TO THE OFFICE

[18. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider approving letters of support for NCTCOG planning initiatives pursuant to Trinity River Common Vision Program.]

NEXT 18, UH, MONI CONNOR, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR NORTH TEXAS CAR CLEANING INITIATIVES PURSUANT TO ATTORNEY RIVER COMMON VISION PROGRAM.

YOUTUBE BEEN SITTING OUT THERE VERY PATIENTLY.

YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WIGGLING OR MAKING A RACKET OR ANYTHING? THAT'S THE STILLEST I'VE SET IN A LONG TIME.

I'M NOT A CALM PERSON.

OKAY.

SO, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE JOINED THE UH, TRINITY RIVER COMMON VISION PROGRAM.

UM, WE DIDN'T PAY ANY FEES AT THAT TIME.

UM, WE DID BENEFIT FROM SOME FEMA STUDIES AND SOME MAP, UH, REVISIONS AS PART OF THAT.

UM, THIS YEAR THEY HAVE SENT OUT, UM, THE COST SHARE FOR OUR COUNTY FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE 20, 21 AND IT'S $15,000.

TWO SCOPES OF WORK, WHICH I HAVE A COPY OF EACH OF THOSE AND RON HAS LOOKED THESE OVER AND HE CAN FILL IN ANYTHING.

I CAN'T, SOME OF THIS GOES OVER MY HEAD.

UM, THEY ARE, AND I THINK YOU GUYS ALL GOT THIS.

THE COST SHARE.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR TODAY IS FOR THE TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO BE SIGNED, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR FUNDING.

SO THE 15,000 IS THE MOST WE WOULD SPEND, BUT IF WE SHOW OUR SUPPORT ALONG WITH THE OTHERS AND THEY GO OUT FOR FUNDING, THAT 15,000 COULD BE LESSENED.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE COG IS ASKING FOR IS FOR US TO DO THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND GET THOSE BACK TO THEM BY MAY 4TH AND THEN THEY'LL GO OUT FOR SOME FUNDING TO KIND OF LESSEN THE BURDEN OF THE COST.

FOR US, THE MOST WE WOULD SPEND IS 15.

UM, THE TOTAL PROJECTS, THE TWO PROJECTS INCLUDE THE UPPER TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR AND UM, THE, UM, GEO REFERENCED UPPER TRINITY.

AND SO TOTAL COST IS $485,000.

SO THE INFORMATION WE'RE GOING TO GAIN FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN THE FEMA, IT'S KIND OF WORTH THE 15,000.

BUT IF WE CAN GET IT FOR LESS, HEY, YEAH, I'M ON FOR BARGAINS.

THIS KIND OF STUFF IS A SORT OF ARCANE, BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE'RE SHEDDING MORE WATER FRIGHT.

AND AS THEY DO THIS, THEY PLAN TO IN THE FUTURE AT LEAST THE, THE COMMON VISIONS GOAL IN THE FUTURE IS TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG.

AND SO TO THE RIGHT WE'RE GOING INTO MORE INTO COFFIN AND MORE INTO, WE'LL BENEFIT MORE FROM IT IN THE FUTURE.

RIGHT NOW THEY JUST FOCUSED ON THAT ONE AREA WHERE RON WOULD YOU SAY IT AFFECTS THE COLUMBINE? UM, ROSSER UPSTREAM? YEP.

WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT SO I CAN GET THOSE SENT TO THE COCK.

OKAY.

SO, UH, WHAT'S BEFORE US AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR NORTH TEXAS CARD PLANNING INITIATIVES.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CALL FOR DISCUSSION.

AND THOSE, THOSE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES AND I DO HAVE A HARD COPY, SORT OF A LITTLE TINY BREAKDOWN OF THE PROJECTS THAT I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS AFTERWARDS.

ALRIGHT.

UH,

[19. Discuss/Consider approving line item transfers.]

MS KAREN, LINE ON TRANSFERS.

UM, LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FOR EMAIL TO YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW I WAS QUESTIONED ON THE TEE CLOSE BUDGET

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AMENDMENT AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT EVERY YEAR THE SHERIFF AND THE FOUR CONSTABLES MARSHALL GET MONEY FOR T CLOTHES AND I HAVE TO CARRY THOSE MONIES FORWARD IF THEY DIDN'T SPEND THEM FOR TRAINING AND THIS IS NEW MONEY SO I'M ADJUSTING THEIR BUDGET TO COVER THAT SO THEY CAN SPEND IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? KNOWING THE ANSWER TO MONTERREY.

OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED? OH MY GOD, WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND COMMISSIONER AND CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES OUT.

[20. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

20 CONSIDER DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT.

MS KAREN, YOUR TIMES FOR PAYMENT ARE A TOTAL OF $3,059,848 AND 42 CENTS.

THE CLAIMS FOR THE BILLS ARE MILLION SEVEN 23, EIGHT 49 91 AND A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH PRECINCT FOUR AND UH, THE TIF AND THE POWER CENTER PAYMENTS TOO.

TERRIBLE.

OKAY.

AND THE BIG PORTION OF THAT FROM PRECINCT FOUR IS PAYMENT FOR MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF THREE SEPARATE ROADS THAT WERE DAMAGED BY PIPELINE.

SO.

OKAY.

AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THE EMOTIONAL PERMISSION OR CASE FOR APPROVAL IS YOUR SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND COMMISSION DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[21. Adjourn Regular Meeting.]

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

I'M ADJOURN.

DURING THE MEETING, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MOVES TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL SEE Y'ALL AT ONE O'CLOCK.