May 12, 2020 Commissioners Court

AND YOU CAN JUST HAND THOSE TO ME WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARS FROM ANYBODY ELSE.

IS, IS THIS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? YES.

NEXT ITEM

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE]

NO, I WAS GETTING READY TO DO, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

GO AHEAD.

UH, I JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'RE RESUMING THE MONTHLY CLEANUPS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

UH, WE'VE GOT ONE CAMP, UH, MAY 16TH, EIGHT TO FOUR, AND, UH, I'M WORKING WITH THE CITY OF KAUFLIN RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE TRYING TO RESET THE DATE FOR THE, UH, JOINT CITY AND COUNTY CLEANUP AND COMPLEMENT STUFF.

AND WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT DAY YET.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET IT, WE'LL GET IT OUT ON THE WEBSITE AND FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, YEAH.

OTHER, THIS CAME BY EMAIL.

UM, I HAVE ACTUALLY THREE ITEMS, A ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THAT I THINK ARE WORTH READING.

UM, I'LL START WITH THE EMAIL THAT I GOT FROM CHIEF LUNT AND, UH, FORNEY SAYS JUDGE RICHARDS, UH, STEVE, WHO HE HAS DONE WELL DURING THE COVERT 19 DISASTER.

HE'S BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR EVERYONE ACROSS THE COUNTY AND HE'S ASSISTED US VERY EARLY ON IN ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL MASKS AND GLOVES FOR POLICE OFFICERS WHILE WE WERE RUNNING SHORT AS A DISASTER HAS UNFOLDED AND EVOLVED.

STEVE AND I HAVE TALKED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS IN MY DUAL ROLE AS CHIEF AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR FORNEY.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT TO BE ABLE TO REACH HIM AND CONTINUOUSLY WORK WITH HIM DURING THIS DISASTER.

IT SEEMS TO BE THE MAN OF THE HOUR TODAY.

UH, THIS IS FROM CRANDALL ISD, UH, SAYS JUDGE RICHARDS, UNCHARTED WATERS.

THIS IS THE TERRITORY OF ALL AMERICANS HAVE MANAGED TO MANAGE THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS AS COVERT 19 HAS DISRUPTED EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.

ALONG THIS JOURNEY, YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE EMBODIED THE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY TO STEADY THE SHIP AND PLOT A PATH FOR THE 135,000 RESIDENTS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WHILE THERE ARE MANY UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND ONE SPECIFIC PERSON WHO IS ANSWERED EACH TIME I HAVE CALLED AND REPLIED TO EACH MESSAGE I HAVE SENT.

AND THAT IS, UH, STEVE HOOEY.

UH, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE REST OF THIS RATHER LENGTHY LETTER, BUT UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU, STEVE.

AND, UH, I DO HAVE ONE

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THIS IS FROM, UH, MIKE SLIDES, THE CITY MANAGER HERE IN KAUFMAN JUDGE BEEN MEANING TO SEND YOU MY THOUGHTS CONCERNING THIS PANDEMIC AND THE COUNTY'S RESPONSE AND LEADERSHIP.

IT'S NOT BEEN OFTEN THAT WE'VE HAD SUCH CLOSE COORDINATION WITH STEVE WHO IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE, BUT HE HAS PERFORMED AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MANY ENTITIES WITHIN AND WITHOUT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY THAT HE IS HAVING TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

HE IS EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE TO OUR CITY AND OFTEN OFFERS CRITICAL, TIMELY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS TO KEEP OUR CITY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS SAFE.

I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO HAVE STEVE MANNING OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EFFORTS DURING THIS PANDEMIC.

SO HOW ABOUT THAT? STEVE AND I? YES, IN ADDITION, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF VERBAL COMMENTS PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, UH, HOW WELL THIS HAS GONE CONSIDERING THAT IT'S ALL UNCHARTED TERRITORY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? JUDGE? I, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN REPORTING ON THE PROGRESS OF THIS ILLNESS AND, AND, UH, HOW WE PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

AND, UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND STEVE.

UH, HE HAS RISEN TO THE OCCASION FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR INITIATIVE AND, AND, UH, DOES HIS VERY BEST TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO US AS SOON AS HE CAN.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT, STEVE.

ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK THOSE INTO, UH, ADDRESS THOSE INDIVIDUALLY OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST TAKE THEM AS ONE MOTION? WELL, WE TAKE THEM AS ONE MONTH.

[B. Randy Richards; Present/Accept the Fire Marshal's Monthly Activity Report.]

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM, MARSHALL, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

UH, FIRE MARSHALL.

MAYBE EACH OF YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THIS.

UH, FOR SOME REASON WE HAD AN UNUSUAL NUMBER OF STRUCTURE FIRES THAT POPPED UP IN A MONTH.

UH, MOST OF WHICH WERE ACCIDENTAL FIRES RELATED TO EXTERIOR FIRES THAT ENCROACHED UPON OPPONENT STRUCTURE.

UH, WE GOT SEVERAL OF THEM THAT ARE STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION.

UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR INSPECTIONS.

EVERYTHING IS ROCKING ALONE PRETTY MUCH AS NORM.

BUT WE DID HAVE A TREMENDOUS INFLUX OF INSPECTIONS.

IT WAS QUITE SURPRISING TO US WITH THE COVERT SITUATION.

WE FIGURED OUT A LOT OF THINGS WOULD BE SHUT DOWN, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS STILL MOVING STRONG.

AND UH, THIS KID COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW.

WE HAD, UH, 50 INSPECTIONS IN AT ONE MONTH, UH, ALL RELATED TO PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING.

AND, UH, THAT NUMBER WILL INCREASE OF COURSE THIS NEXT MONTH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, OR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AS THE FIREWORKS COMES ONLINE, WE'LL BE DOING THOSE INSPECTIONS AS WELL.

UH, OTHER THAN THAT, OUR, UH, OUR REVENUES BASED UPON THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND THE INSPECTIONS THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ABOUT RIGHT AT $11,000 AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

WE HAD AN $11,000 DEPOSIT THIS PAST MONTH, SO THINGS CONTINUE TO INCREASE, CONTINUE TO GRILL.

OUR NEW STAFF MEMBER IS A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY THROUGH THE TRAINING PROGRAM, SO, UH, HOPEFULLY AS SOON AS WE CUT HER LOOSE ON HER OWN, THAT'S GONNA.

THAT'S GONNA GIVE US SOME RELIEF.

THANKS FOR GETTING BUSY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT EVEN DURING THIS COVEN THAT YOUR INSPECTIONS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED ON ABATED YOUR, YOUR STAFF WAS STILL OUT THERE.

OUR OFFICE IS, IS NOT CHANGED AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCTIVITY WHERE WE ARE DOING SOME REMOTE WORK, UH, NOT ABLE TO DO A LOT OF OUR IN PERSON MEETINGS BUT WE ARE DOING VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND UH, TRIED TO HANDLE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN VIRTUAL OR UH, ONLINE SUBMITTALS.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD INDICATOR OF THE CONTINUED, UH, HOPEFULLY HEALTHY GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND, AND ITS UH, ITS REVENUE GENERATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR MARCHING.

THE OTHER ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WOULD BE DISCUSSED.

OKAY, SO, UH, I WOULD UH, ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE UH, FIRE MARSHALL'S MONTHLY REPORT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL THINK OF THE SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[A. Discuss/Consider accepting Commissioners Court Meeting Minutes for April 28, 2020.]

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CONSIDER ACCEPTING COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 28 2020 ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES HEARING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? LIKE THE MOTION FOR ACCEPTANCE? I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ACCEPTANCE FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

CONSTABLE JOHNSON DISCUSS.

THOSE POSE.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[3. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Consider approving the creation of a contract position servicing all three current patrol contracts as a relief deputy.]

NEXT STEP COUNT.

CONSIDER IMPROVING THE CREATION OF A CONTRACT POSITION.

SERVICING ALL THREE CURRENT PATROL CONTRACTS AS A RELIEF DEPUTY MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONED MORNING, UH, SORRY, CON UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON WAS OUT OF TOWN.

UH, ON THIS, MY NAME'S SHERRY KITCHENS.

I'M LIEUTENANT, UH, PRECINCT TO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

I'M THE SPECIAL CONTACT, UH, CONTRACTS COORDINATOR.

UH, THIS IS FOR A RELIEF POSITION.

THE FUNDS WERE BUILT INTO ALL THE CONTRACTS THAT BASICALLY COVERS WHEN PEOPLE ARE ALL FOR ON VACATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, IT WAS, UH, BUILT INTO THE CONTRACTS AND WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED ON FILLING A POSITION BACK IN NOVEMBER.

HOWEVER, UH, DUE TO DIFFERENT THINGS, WE JUST WAITED UNTIL NOW TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED, UM, WITH, UH, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE ON THE PHONE JUST BEING AVAILABLE.

UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED, UH, WITHIN THE CONTRACTS TO START IN NOVEMBER, UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE A SURPLUS.

UH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP UNDER BUDGET ON THAT.

HEY, COMMENTS, IS THAT GARY WHEN YOU, UM, OFFICER KITCHEN, SORRY.

WHEN YOU EMAIL ME, YOU SAID THIS WAS A POSITION THAT WAS, UH, CONSIDERED AN INVESTIGATOR? NO, NO, IT'S FOR A RELIEF DEPUTY, UH, THAT WILL OPEN UP COVER AND OPEN UP THE GUYS THAT CAN FOLLOW UP ON ANY KIND OF CALLS, UH, THAT THIS ACTUAL POSITION WITH THIS OFFICER HERE IS STEPHANIE HERE WOULD BE FILLING, WOULD BE FOR A RELIEF POSITION.

AND IT'S FOR, UM, YOU DID IT AS IF MAY 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, THAT W PASS MAY 1ST.

LIKE I SAID IN MY EMAIL, AS I EXPLAINED IN MY EMAIL, UH, I JUST NEEDED A BASELINE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SHOW THAT, SORRY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THERE WERE, THE FUNDS WERE THERE, UH, BECAUSE OF, UH, WHEN COMMISSIONER'S SCORE WOULD BE HERE.

UM, AND THEN PROCESSING AND GET EVERYTHING TO, I DIDN'T HAVE AN ACTUAL START DATE, SO TO BE ABLE TO UM, UH, SHOW THE FUNDS WERE THERE, I JUST USED MAY 1ST AS A START DATE.

UH, THIS POSITION WILL START OUT AT THE BASE? YES.

ENTRY LEVEL.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION REALLY.

PROBABLY KAREN.

SO THIS WAS GOING TO SERVICE ALL YOUR CONTRACTS ACROSS THE CONTRACT.

SO WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF FUNDING? IS THAT IT'S FROM THE THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS WE MAIL FORMS. TRAVIS RANCH, DEVON, SHAR, WE, WE, WE LOST ONE OF THE CONTRACTS.

WE HAD FOUR.

AND SO YOU INDIVIDUALLY FUNDS FROM EACH CONTRACT ARE BEING COBBLED TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THIS POSITION? YES SIR.

IS THERE ANY DIFFICULTY IN TRACKING THAT SINCE THAT'S KIND OF CROSSING, UH, FUNDING? IT'S JUST ACCESSING THE THREE DIFFERENT ACCOUNT NUMBERS.

UM, AND ON THAT SIDE OF IT, IT WOULD COME FROM THE AUDITORS OFFICE.

UM, HOW THEY DO IT.

UM, UH, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT SIDE OF IT WORKS, BUT WE JUST DESIGNATE THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS FOR THE FUNDS TO COME OUT OF.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE RUN REPORTS IN STW THROUGH PYRO THAT LETS US KNOW HOW MANY HOURS TO CHARGE AND EXPENSES PER INSURANCES AND ALL THAT.

THE TAXES AND EVERYTHING FOR EACH CONTRACT.

YOU SAID YOU'VE ALL, WE'VE ALREADY LOST ONE CONTRACT.

WE'VE ALREADY LOST ONE CONTRACT.

WE HAD FOUR CONTRACTS, NOW WE HAVE THREE.

RIGHT.

BUT YES SIR.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THE COST WITH THREE ENTITIES.

OF ANY OTHER INDUSTRY, THE OTHER TWO DEVELOPMENTS WILL, YEAH.

OUR THREE DEVELOPMENTS OR WHATEVER.

WHAT IF ANOTHER ONE DROPS OUT AND THEN YOU'RE SPLITTING THIS SALARY WITH TWO CONTRACTS? UM, IT WOULD BE ABSORBED WITHIN IT OR THE POSITION, JUST LIKE WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, WHEN FUNDS ARE REDUCED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF NEEDED CUTS WOULD BE MADE.

BUT WE DON'T, AGAIN, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY, UM, ANY CHANGES IN THOSE CONTRACTS.

THE ONE THAT WAS, UH, THAT HAD WENT A DIFFERENT SERVICE WAS OUR SMALLEST ONE THAT WE HAD.

SO, UM, IF IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A CHANGE IN, JUST LIKE ANY KIND

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IF A SLACK, UH, YES SIR.

YOU JUST REDUCE HIS HOURS, UH, RE EITHER REDUCE THEIR HOURS, SEE IF, UH, THERE'S GO TO THE OTHER TO GO TO THE OTHER CONTRACTS, SEE IF THERE'S ROOM FOR THEM TO ABSORB THE COSTS AND IF NOT, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE HOURS OR THE, UH, PERSONNEL.

BUT WE ADD, UH, WHEN WE'RE DOING THE BUDGETING FOR IT, WE ADD CUSHIONS, UH, ANTICIPATIONS, FORECAST, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

CAN WE TAKE A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE AND PRODUCING? IS THERE A PROBLEM LEGALLY WITH THAT? YES.

NO, IT'S A CONTRACT BASED POSITION.

SO THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING WITH THE, WITH THE HIRING.

WOW.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IF I UNDERSTOOD THE CONDITIONS OF THAT CONTRACT THAT WE LOST WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE PROVISIONS OF THE NOTICE THAT AT LEAST THE, THE AUDITOR, I DON'T THINK WE EVER GOT NOTICED, THEY JUST QUIT.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HIRING INTO THESE POSITIONS.

THEY ALWAYS BE REMINDED THAT, THAT IF THAT FUNDING GOES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOURCE OF FUNDING IN THE COUNTY FOR THOSE INTERNSHIPS.

SO MR RANCH DID SEND THE 30 DAY NOTICE THAT AS PER THE CONTRACT THEY DID SEND IT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SENT IT TO US AND THEN I HAD FORWARDED IT TO KAREN AND HIM AND THE COMMISSIONER.

DO YOU KNOW IF WE RECEIVED NOTICE? OKAY, I NEED TO REVIEW BACK THROUGH THAT FILE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I WAS TOLD WE DID NOT RECEIVE NOTICE BUT MAYBE THAT WAS MISINFORMATION.

IT ISN'T EVAN, WE HAD SOME, SOME OTHER CONTRACTUAL DIFFICULTIES ABOUT SOME OF THESE PAYMENTS BEING AT LEAST LATE OR IN ARREARS.

ARE WE, ARE WE ALL CURRENT? AND THEN THEY WERE IN A REARS AND WE'VE CAUGHT UP.

WE'RE HAVING THAT.

THE ONE THAT CANCELED IS THE ONE WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE GETTING.

YEAH, IT WAS THAT THEY WERE NECESSARILY IN THE REARS AS MUCH AS CAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO, IT WAS JUST SOME ACCOUNTING ISSUES.

THE WAY WE WERE EXPLAINED, UH, THE CHECKS WERE DEPOSITED IN THE WRONG ACCOUNTS.

SO IT, IT MADE HER DISAPPEAR AS THOUGH THEY HADN'T BEEN PAID.

BUT IN FACT THEY HAD PAID, IT WAS JUST SOME, IT WAS SOME ACCOUNT CODING ISSUE.

THE REASON YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THE OTHER CONTRACT IS BECAUSE WHEN THAT CONTRACT THAT WAS FOR ONE OFFICER AND THEY CANCELED THAT CONTRACT, THEN THAT ONE OFFICER, THEY HAD AN EMPTY POSITION IN THE WIND MALE FORMS AREA.

SO THEY MOVED THAT PERSON INTO THAT POSITION.

THAT'S WHY WE WEREN'T SHORT THE MONEY.

WE HAD A POSITION THAT WE COULD MOVE THAT PERSON INTO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.

SO YOU HAD A FUNDED POSITION THAT WAS VACANT? UH, YES.

UH, WE HAD HAD A OFFICER THAT HAD, UH, LEFT AND WENT TO A LARGER AGENCY AND WE HAD NOT FILLED THAT POSITION YET BECAUSE OF THE TIME IT TAKES TO, TO FILL IT.

IT KIND OF ALL JUST HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE HAVE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE, UH, A OPEN POSITION AT THE TIMES WHEN AN ATTRITION ISSUE.

YES MA'AM.

NOT THAT WE HAD A STANDING VACANT.

NO, SIR.

NO SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, OKAY.

THEN WHEN WE HAVE BEFORE US IS TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE CREATION OF A CONTRACT POSITIONING, SERVICING ALL THREE CURRENT PATROL CONTRACTS AS A RELIEF DEPUTY.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS FOR APPROVAL.

UH, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, DISCUSSION.

THOSE PPOS KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[4. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Consider transferring Tanner Cole #4964 position from a reserve deputy Constable with the Kaufman County Pct. #2 Constable's Office to a full time Deputy Constable to fill the newly created position.]

ITEM FOUR.

CONSTABLE JOHNSON DISCUSSED CONSIDER TRANSFERRING TANNER COLE, UH, BADGE NUMBER 49 64 POSITION FROM A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE WITH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT TO OFFICE TO A FULL TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE TO FILL THE NEWLY CREATED POSITION.

YES.

THE COMMISSIONER IS GETTING UH, LIEUTENANT KITCHEN'S PRECINCT TO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

UH, THIS IS JUST TRANSFERRING DEPUTY CODE.

DEPUTY COLE IS A CURRENT RESERVE DEPUTY, UH, WITH US.

UH, HE IS A 40 RESIDENT GRADUATE FROM NORTH 40 HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, HE HAS UH, APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE COMING FROM HENDERSON COUNTY.

UM, AND HE WILL BE TRANSFERRING FROM A RESERVE POSITION TO THE PA POSITION AND THAT'S TO FILL THAT POSITION.

AND WE JUST DISCUSSED ON THREE.

UM, NOPE.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER IN CAGE DISCUSSION.

THANK

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YOU GENTLEMEN.

THANK

[5. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of the Supplemental Agreement #2 for the US 80 Intersection Improvements Project between Kaufman County and Othon, Inc. in the amount of $12,447.00.]

YOU FOR CALLING.

NEXT STEP, JOHN POLLSTER DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO FOR THE U S 80 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND OREGON INC IN THE AMOUNT OF 12,004 47 THE MORNING.

JOHN POLLSTER, INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS.

UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEFORE YOU IN YOUR PACKET, A, UH, FUNDING MEMO REFERENCING THE, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH ELTON IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,447.

THERE WAS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT TEXTILE HAD REQUESTED THAT WE INCLUDE IN THE PSN DOCUMENT AT BACHELOR CREEK AND THIS COVERS THOSE, UH, ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

AND I THINK THIS THE SECOND, IS THIS THE SECOND AMENDMENT? SO, YES.

SO IT'S, WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE ONLY HAD TWO AMENDMENTS.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

SO THE FUNDING IS IDENTIFIED IN YOUR PACKET COMING OUT OF THE USA, THE INTERSECTION PROJECT AND THE 2013 BOND PROGRAM.

AND THOSE FUNDING SOURCES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED BY THE AUDITOR.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

YOU WON'T BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE SUPPLEMENT AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO FOR THE U S 80 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AS PRESENTED.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER MOTION FOR PROOF FROM FINISHER CASE.

SECOND OF A COMMISSIONER HUNT.

MR POLLSTER AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE RIGHTAWAY ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS FOR THE FM FIVE 48 PROJECT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND TEXTILES IN THE AMOUNT OF $927,000 $303 OR 927 303 50 CENTS.

ITEM SIX,

[6. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of the ROW Advanced Funding Agreements for the FM 548 Project between Kaufman County and TxDOT in the amount of $927,303.50.]

I ALWAYS AM AMUSED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PENNIES IN THESE ITEMS LIKE THIS.

SO, UH, JOHN.

SO JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT PREVIOUS ITEM ALSO, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BE HAVING BE READY TO LET BY APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE MOVING PRETTY QUICK ON THAT PROJECT AND IT IS FULLY FUNDED.

SO ON THIS PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FFR FIVE 40 PROJECT AND ITS ENTIRE LIMITS.

WE HAVE TO BUY THE RIGHT AWAY OR PARTICIPATE AT 10% FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.

AND THAT NINE 27 REPRESENTS THE 10% RELATED TO THAT PROJECT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A SEPTEMBER OF 22, UH, READY TO LET DATE.

AND UH, AGAIN THIS PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDED.

THE FUNDING MEMO YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, IT'S A CLEANUP MEMO.

WHAT WE DO IS WE TRY TO SPEND THE OLDEST MONEY FIRST.

SO THERE ARE UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, UH, IN THE 2013 BOB PROGRAM AND WE USE THOSE PROCEEDS TO UH, WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT TO SIZE THAT FUNDING.

WE USE THOSE CLEANUP ACCOUNTS AND THEY SHOULD BE LISTED ON YOUR FUNDING MEMO AS TO WHERE THOSE ARE AND WHY THE CANCER COMING FROM.

AND AGAIN, THOSE ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN VERIFIED BY THE AUDITOR.

IT'S ALL AMERICAN.

WE GOT A READY TO LET IT GET THAT SEPTEMBER 22 IS CONTINGENT UPON GETTING THE RIGHTAWAY ACQUIRED IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THE UTILITIES RELOCATED SO THEY ARE READY TO START, BUT THEY WON'T START UNTIL THEY GET THEIR 10% FROM US.

WELL, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO START ON THAT ONE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

UH, YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER UH, PHILLIPS MAKES A MOVE TO APPROVE THAT RIGHT AWAY AND ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT.

SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER HUNT.

[7. City of Mesquite; Discuss/Consider approving lnterlocal Agreement between the City of Mesquite and Kaufman County regarding Griffin Lane improvement project.]

UM, NEXT STEP CITY MOSQUITO.

I'LL SEE THE CITY MANAGER CLIFF KAHILI WITH US TODAY.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MUSKIE AND KAUFMAN COUNTY REGARDING GRIFFIN LANE IMPROVEMENTS.

MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.

UH, WE'RE UH, ALSO HAVE A ITEM EIGHT ON, UH, YOUR AGENDA AS WELL.

UH, BASICALLY REGARDING, UH, AN ANNEXATION THAT WE HAVE A PENDING.

UH, THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, REGARDING, UH, GRIFFIN ROAD, WHICH IS A PART OF THE ROADWAY, UH, IN, UH, IN THE ANNEXATION.

UH, NO, A COMMISSIONER HUNTS, UH, UH, PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THE ROADWAY AND THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO UH, PUT AN O A FULL OVERLAY ON THE PORCH AND THAT WILL BE ANNEXED INTO MESQUITE AND, UH, MAKE USE OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE RECENTLY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF ALLOWING US TO PUT THAT INTO NEXT YEAR.

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SO OUR CAPITAL FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE OR BOTH ITEMS. THE BIG DEAL TOO IS TO GET BY UNTIL NEXT YEAR WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT AND IT'S GOT TO BE MAINTAINED BECAUSE I'LL GET YOUR NUMBER AND ALL THE CALLS WE GET, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHERE YOUR NUMBER IS.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL YOU, ONCE IT'S ANNEXED A, WE INTEND TO PUT IT INTO OUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE CYCLE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE OUR CREWS ARE OUT THERE, MAINTAIN IT AND UNTIL THEY OVERLAY DONE, WE HOPE TO DO THAT.

UH, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE EARLY PART OF 2021 QUESTIONS.

THE NEXT TIME FOR MR KAHILI IS TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING RESOLUTION FOR ANNEXATION OF A PORTION OF GRIFFIN LANE.

IF THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND MOSQUITO AND CALL FROM COUNTY REGARDING GRIFFIN LANE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? I'M LIKE, MOTION.

DID THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SHAKE FROM A COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

AND

[8. City of Mesquite; Discuss/Consider approving Resolution for Annexation of a portion of Griffin Lane.]

YES, SIR.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT.

UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S A, IT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE, BUT, UH, WE FELT THAT IT WAS, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR THE ANNEXATION AND WE REQUEST HER APPROVAL OF AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE ANNEXATION QUESTIONS.

UM, THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE TO TAKE THE WHOLE ROOM.

UM, WILL YOU TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL? UH, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

THAT'S JUST, UH, AN ETJ UH, BOUNDARY DISCUSSION.

BUT UH, UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UH, IT'S WORKED OUT.

IT'S JUST A LOT OF PLAYERS IN THIS THING.

SO YES, SIR.

IT'S EASIER WITH TWO PARTIES THAN THREE.

YES, YES, YES.

AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE EXTRA FOOTAGE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY TAKE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT CAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, GO AHEAD WITH THIS.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER HUNTER APPROVE RESOLUTE THE RESOLUTION FOR ANNEXATION OF A PORTION OF GRIFFIN LANE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND A SECOND.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES YOU SEE YOU SIR.

GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU.

NEXT UP, ITEM NINE, MIKE SIMS DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE PROJECT PLAN AND THE FINANCE PLAN OF THE TERRELL REINVESTMENT ZONE.

UH,

[9. Mike Sims; Discuss/Consider approving Amendment No. 2 to the Project Plan and Finance Plan of Terrell Reinvestment Zone No. 1.]

NUMBER TWO.

GOOD MORNING, HARDY.

ALWAYS GOOD TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I WILL, UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON.

UH, FIRST, UH, THE RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET HAS A SERIES OF WHEREAS IS THAT GIVES YOU ALL OF THE BACKGROUND ON THE TAX, COULDN'T RENT REFINANCE ZONE IN TERRELL.

IT'S REALLY A 2007, UH, TIF DISTRICT.

UM, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, APPROVED IN OUR LOCAL WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL AND, AND TOOK ACTION ON SEVERAL OTHER ELEMENTS OF IT IN THAT 2007, 2008 TIME PERIOD.

UM, WITH ANY TAX INCREMENT REFINANCE ZONE, YOU SET UP A PROJECT PLAN AND THE FINANCE PLAN ON THE FRONT END, THAT PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCE PLANNER INTENDED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT YOU MIGHT BUILD IF ALL OF THE MONEY COMES IN THE WAY THAT YOU'VE PROJECTED IT.

AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE TAX INCREMENT ZONE, UH, THERE'S A MAP IN IT THAT SHOWS KIND OF THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE.

IT STRETCHES ALONG INTERSTATE 20 SPUR, FIVE 57 COMES OUT TO FM ONE 48 OVER HERE, AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP PAST THE AIRPORT, ALL THE WAY OVER TO, UM, THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT BY THE WAY.

THINGS GO, UM, UH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY THIS IS A BRAGGING POINT, BUT WE OFTEN LIKE TO SAY IT'S THE LARGEST, UH, TAX INCREMENT REFINANCE DISTRICT IN A RURAL COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND, UM, UH, WHAT THAT WILL DO YET, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT IS A BRAGGING POINT.

SO, UH, ANYHOW, UH, WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT LITTLE SUB ZONES, UH, THE PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCE PLAN, UH, HAS A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN IT ABOUT WHERE TO SPEND MONEY THAT WOULD COME IN OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.

SO, UH, BACK IN, UM, UH, 2019, UH, THE TIF DISTRICT STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, TERRY BARBER'S, A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD, MY CONSTANT, A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD, WE STARTED LOOKING AT AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, 10, 13 YEARS HERE, UH, LET'S UPDATE THIS.

WE HAVE SOME MORE REALISTIC INFORMATION IN THE PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCE PLAN.

SO THIS ISN'T SPENDING MONEY.

THIS IS, UM, UH, THE PLANNING DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WHAT YOU MIGHT SPEND MONEY ON IN THE FUTURE.

SO IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING, AND THIS WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY AT THE, UH, TAX AND IMPERMANENT REFINANCE BOARD, UM, UH, LAST YEAR.

UH, SO ONCE YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IS TO SAY, OKAY, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS LIST THAT WE MIGHT DO OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, IT WAS PRETTY EASY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOMETHING WE BUILT.

HERE'S SOMETHING WE DECIDED

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WE DIDN'T NEED TO BUILD.

UM, THERE WAS A BIG CATEGORY IN THE, UH, PROJECT PLAN, UH, IN THE PAST FOR SOMETHING CALLED OTHER ROADWAYS.

UH, WE WHITTLED THAT DOWN AND SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED A GROUP OF SIX DIFFERENT ROADWAYS THAT MADE MORE SENSE.

UM, WE, UH, WENT DOWN AND LOOKED AT THE TECH STOCK ROADWAYS.

WE REALIZED THAT BETWEEN THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM AND OTHER TECH STOCK INVESTMENTS AND A PARTNERSHIP THAT, UH, THE CITY OF TERRELL DID WITH A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, UM, THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME SPENDING ON TECH START ROADWAYS THAT JUST DIDN'T NEED TO HAPPEN.

SO WE WHITTLED SOME MONEY OUT OF THERE.

UH, WE WENT DOWN UNDER THE WATER UTILITY SIDE OF IT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, UH, THROUGH, UH, THE TAX DISTRICT.

WE ACTUALLY FUNDED THAT THROUGH, UM, CITY, UM, CEO'S, UH, I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT WAS BUILT, UH, WHEN YOU WERE DOWN THERE WITH US.

UH, THAT'S THAT BIG WATER TOWER BY BUC-EE'S.

IT WAS ALREADY BUILT.

SO WHY KEEP IT IN THE PROJECT PLAN? UM, SAME THING WITH OUR WASTEWATER PROGRAM, UH, UNDER THE HEADING OF NEW PLANT, UH, THAT USED TO BE IN THERE CAUSE WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO BUILD A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UH, TIME MARCHES ON AND OUR ENGINEERING TEAM SAID, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF BUILDING A NEW PLANT, UH, LET'S JUST RE-ENGINEER OUR CURRENT PLANT.

UH, WE GOT A PARTNERSHIP GOING WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, TAKEN CARE OF ELSEWHERE, WE TURNED OUR ATTENTION TO A NEW ENTRY.

WE CALLED BACHELOR CREEK LIFT STATION SLASH FORCE MAINS.

SO THE MONEY WE WOULD HAVE PUT ON NEW PLANT NOW THAT'S BEING IDEAL FOR THAT LIFT STATION IN THE FORCE MAINS AROUND THAT LIFT STATION.

AND THEN UNDER THE HEADING OF ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, CONTEXT SENSITIVE BRIDGE, THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY OF TERRELL FUNDED, UH, THAT'S THE STATE HIGHWAY 34 BRIDGE IN TERRELL.

UM, WE PUT SOME OF OUR OWN MONEY INTO THAT NEW UTILITY RELOCATIONS.

THE CITY OF TERRELL PUT ITS OWN MONEY INTO THAT.

UM, WE DID SOME DOWNTOWN WORK AND DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A BRAND NEW, UH, DOWNTOWN PLAN FOR REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN.

LET'S PUT SOME MORE MONEY INTO THAT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THERE.

AND THEN FOR THE FIRST TIME WE FIGURED WE'D HAVE A CONTINGENCY.

SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S JUST A REAL QUICK LITTLE WALKTHROUGH.

SOME OF THE CHANGES, AGAIN, IT WAS INTENDED TO UPDATE IT.

UM, THE SECOND PAGE OF THE UPDATE LISTS IT ALL OUT BY THESE DISTRICTS THAT I SHOWED YOU.

SO, UH, YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND HAVE SOME NAMES THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

SO, UH, EVEN THE ENTRY THAT SAYS CROSSROADS ARE THE ENTRY THAT SAYS A BUC-EE'S MARKET CENTER.

THOSE HAD KIND OF CRYPTIC NAMES BEFORE.

WE FIGURED WE'D CHANGE NAMES ON SOME OF THIS SO YOU COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS.

UM, NUMBER NINE AND 10 USED TO BE NAMED AFTER A LANDOWNER.

WE FIGURED IT'D BE BETTER TO CALL THAT WEST OF TANGER SOUTH OF TANGER CAUSE NOW THAT MAKES IT REALLY EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH SUB ZONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SAME TEAM OF 15, 16 AND 17 RE RENAMED ALL OF THOSE.

SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE WERE.

AGAIN, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF ADMINISTRATIVE CLEANUP.

UH, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS ITEM.

UH, OUR PROCESS ON THIS WAS THAT THE ENROLLER LOCAL AGREEMENT SIGNED WAY BACK IN 2008 SAYS THAT THE PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCE PLAN IS ESSENTIALLY WHATEVER THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND, UH, THE CITY OF TERRELL JOINTLY UPDATED TO BE.

SO, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TAX INCREMENT REFINANCE BOARD, UH, FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, UH, THE CITY OF TERRELL JUST SAT THIS ASIDE AND WE WANTED YOU GUYS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT FIRST BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL.

SO WHENEVER YOU TAKE CONSIDERATION OF IT, UH, WE'LL THEN MOVE FORWARD TO OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF IT.

SO THAT'S AN OVERVIEW.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TOPIC.

ANY QUESTIONS? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS JUST TO BE CLEAR, JUST SO EVERYBODY WILL UNDERSTAND THIS DOESN'T HAVE IT, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE COUNTY AND ALL YOU'RE DOING IS JUST REALIGNING.

WHAT'S YOUR PLANNING? YES.

TRYING TO TRY AND DO A GOOD JOB.

KEEP OUR PAPERWORK UP TO DATE.

WE APPRECIATE, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR FOLLOWING THE RULES TO MEAN, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T AFFECT US FINANCIALLY, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE MAKING THOSE CHANGES.

YES, SIR.

UH, IN QUESTIONS THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCE PLAN OF THE TERRELL REINVESTMENT ZONE.

NUMBER ONE IS YOUR EMOTION.

I'D LOVE TO DO THAT MOTION, BUT I LIKE TO SAY TO THAT, I MEAN THIS BOARD IS PRETTY MUCH SET OUT FOR QUITE A WHILE AND HAS BEEN REJUVENATED AND THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH GOING OUT THERE, SO JUST NEED TO BE REVAMPED IT.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AND PROVE THE AMENDMENT.

NUMBER TWO.

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SEGMENT.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

UH, DISCUSSION.

THE ONLY POINT I'D LIKE TO JUST PUT ONE MORE THING IN THERE.

MIKE, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP OR YOU KIND OF INTRODUCED THIS IDEA TO ME.

THING ABOUT, UH, UH, TIPS ON LIKE THIS IS THAT IT GIVES, IT GIVES SOME CONTROL OVER THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT GOES ON THERE BECAUSE THE, WHOEVER WANTS TO DEVELOP THEIR, THEY WANT TO GET PARTICIPATION IN THE TIF.

THE GOOD

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THEY, THEY NEED TO MEET WHATEVER STANDARDS ARE IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD, IT CAN BE A PRETTY GOOD TOOL.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, NO MORE DISCUSSION.

UH, THOSE POSTS? NO.

DID YOU VOTE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? YEAH.

UH, SO WE HAVE THREE GUYS THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

RAYMOND SMITH, DISCUSS OR CONSIDER RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY OWNED ASSETS.

ITEM 10,

[10. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of County owned assets.]

UM, WE HAVE JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR ELECTRONIC DISPOSAL AND THEN OX ALSO SOME AUCTIONS PIECES.

GOT SOME ANTIQUE STUFF THERE.

QUITE A BIT.

AND TAKES THAT BRINGS MORE MONEY THEN.

YEAH, WE'LL SEE.

WELL YEAH, WE'LL SEE WHEREVER THAT IS IN THE WRONG SPOT.

MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE THAT I REALLY LIKE SAYING THINGS.

I LIKE IT.

MAYBE, MAYBE I'LL THAT AND PUT YOU IN CHARGE OF THAT.

COMMISSIONER, HOW WOULD THAT BE? RIGHT.

ALRIGHT, WELL I'M GOING TO GET HER PART IN THE SYSTEM.

SO, UH, ARE THERE ANY SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT RE RECEIPT TRANSFER DISPOSAL OF COUNTY ON ASSETS? NO.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY ASSETS? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WHERE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SELECT YOUR SECOND.

SECOND OF COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

[11. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider the purchase of a new 2020 Peterbilt 348 12/14 Yard Ox Dump Bod, in the amount of $130,831.33; utilizing Buyboard Contract #601-19 for Precinct #1.]

UP, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF A NEW 2020 PETERBILT, THREE 48 1214 YARD DUMP TRUCK, $130,831 AND THERE'S THE 33 CENTS IN THERE UTILIZING BOB BOARD CONTRACT SIX OH ONE DASH 19 FOR PRECINCT ONE THIS WILL BE THE PURCHASE OF A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR PRECINCT ONE.

THERE WILL BE NO ADDITIONAL FINANCING.

YEP.

IT'S JUST REPLACING ONE THAT UH, OF COURSE THE SWAP WASN'T VERY GOOD EXCEPT FOR A LOT OF YEARS OF SERVICE.

I THINK THE OTHER ONE BROUGHT 3000 OR SOMETHING AND NEW WAS 130.

SO IF WE CAN GET 25 YEARS OUT OF THIS, MAYBE WE'LL GET GOOD USE OUT OF IT.

SO JUST REPLACING THE TRUCK THAT WE PURCHASED IT.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PURCHASE THAT, UH, 2020 PETERBILT AS DISCUSSED THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND.

RIVALING AGAIN, DISCUSS CONSIDERED PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFQ 2018 REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTOR MATERIALS TESTING.

ITEM 12

[12. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider permission to solicit RFQ 20-18: Request for Qualifications for CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS TESTING.]

THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED THROUGHOUT THE BOND PROGRAMS, THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO THROUGH THE, UH, ROAD MATERIALS.

SO PART OF THIS RFQ ALSO, UM, INCLUDE GEOTECHNICAL SERVICES, UM, THAT WE MAY NEED ALONG THE WAY AS WELL.

QUESTIONS? THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION? UH, TO THE SOLICIT RFQ 2018 AS PRESENTED.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WE HAD THAT MOTION WITH COMMISSIONER KATES.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

LAST THING FOR YOU, RAY AND DISCUSS.

[13. Raylan Smith; Discuss/consider permission to solicit RFP 20-19: County Road Right-of-Way Maintenance.]

CONSIDER PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFP 2019 COUNTY RIGHT AWAY.

ROAD MAINTENANCE RIGHT AWAY.

LINGUS.

I'M SORRY.

OH, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE GOING OUT FOR RFP.

AND I WANTED TO KIND OF OPEN THIS UP TO DISCUSSION CAUSE I'M ALSO GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE PRECINCTS, UM, TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER A GOOD RFP IN DOING THE RESEARCH.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING A VENDOR COME IN AND ASSIST WITH THE MOWING DURING THE SUMMER SEASONS, UM, I'M GOING TO NEED AN ESTIMATE OF KNOWLEDGE.

WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR UM, A MILEAGE AMOUNT, A UNIT PRICE AMOUNT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO GIVE THE VENDORS AN IDEA.

UM, SO I'LL WANT TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS RFP SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THE SPECIFICATIONS OUT TO THE VENDOR SO THAT THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE BIDDING ON.

QUESTIONS.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE OR GRANT PERMISSION TO SOLICIT, UH, RFP 2019 COUNTY RIDEAWAY MAINTENANCE.

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I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CASE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP, COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSED.

[14. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider confirming the Purchasing Agent as the County's Designated Contract Administrator; County's Standard Terms and Conditions bid documentation.]

CONSIDER CONFIRMING THE PURCHASING AGENT AS THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR, A COUNTY STANDARD TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BID DOCUMENTATION COMMISSIONER.

SO THIS IS REALLY JUST A, UH, UH, AN ENHANCEMENT, IF YOU WILL, AN ITEM TO ENHANCE OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS OPERATIONALLY.

UH, WE ACTUALLY, SINCE SINCE, UH, THE APPOINTMENT OF, UH, RAYLON AS OUR PURCHASING AGENT, WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, SOME STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT, THAT, UM, UH, I'LL JUST READ IT THAT SAYS THE PURCHASING AGENT WILL SERVE AS THE SOLE LIAISON BETWEEN COPLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND AFFECTED CARPEN COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND THE SUCCESSFUL VENDOR.

UH, NEVERTHELESS, UH, THROUGH SOME, THROUGH SOME, UH, HISTORICAL RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, IT'S CLEAR THAT, UM, WE, WE NEED TO, TO FORMALLY REQUIRE THAT IN EVERY CONTRACT THAT THE, THAT THE COUNTY HAS, THAT THE COUNTY HAS A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, UH, WHETHER THAT PERSON IS INDIVIDUALLY NAMED IN THE CONTRACT, UH, AND ABSENT.

AND THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE, UH, HAVING A, HAVING A SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED POSITION, UH, IS APPROPRIATE THERE.

FOR INSTANCE, UM, UH, OUR DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES IS PROBABLY, UH, UH, APPROPRIATELY DESIGNATED, UH, UH, AS THE COUNTY'S REPRESENTATIVE IN OUR CONTRACT AND OUR ENGINEERING CONTRACTS, UH, WHEREIN, UH, THEY ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION AND, AND MAKING CALLS AGAINST THAT CONTRACT FOR, UH, FOR PLAT REVIEWS AND, UM, FLOODPLAIN REVIEWS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UH, SO TYPICALLY, AND I THINK, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF REBECCA AND RAYLAND, UH, WE HAVE, WAS IT NINE OR THEIR NINE CURRENT CONTRACTS? SOMETHING.

12, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE DO HAVE A NAMED INDIVIDUAL, UM, UH, LISTED IN THOSE CONTRACTS, UH, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, WHICH IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

SO I'LL GET, UM, TALK ABOUT THAT THEN.

BUT, UH, THIS IS JUST A WAY TO TIGHTEN OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THAT THE INTENT OF, OF, UM, UH, TIMELY OVERSIGHT FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS THAT THE COUNTY LETS IS, IS SUFFICIENTLY COVERED SO THAT, UM, THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON, THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE WHO WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE CALLS AGAINST THOSE CONTRACTS.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE CONFUSION, UH, IN ONE INSTANCE, WHICH AGAIN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

BUT, UM, UH, MY, MY MOTION IS AS DESIGNED THAT IN THE ABSENCE IT'S DESIGNED TO, UH, TO SAY THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF A SPECIFICALLY NAMED, UH, COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE SUCH AS THAT EXAMPLE I GAVE FOR DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, THAT THE COUNTY'S PURCHASING AGENT WOULD BE THAT SOLE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE.

UH, REBECCA, REBECCA HELPED ME ON THIS.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ABOUT THAT? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT CONDITIONER.

SO IT JUST ENSURES, UM, IT JUST ENSURES THAT THE COUNTY IS IN FULL CONTROL OF WHO SPENDS OUR MONEY.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BY RESOLUTION THAT, THAT IN EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, THAT A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, UH, IS EITHER NAMED, UH, BY DEPARTMENT OR THAT THAT IS DEFAULTED TO THE PURCHASING AGENT.

DID THE, THE, THE FAIRGROUNDS, I MEAN THOSE PEOPLE WERE REALLY WRITING THEM WAS THE KIND OF THE GO BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE SHOW BOARD AND THE CONTRACTORS, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE SHE KEPT EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP BUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND, AND GOT INPUT FROM EVERYBODY.

UM, QUESTIONS.

MY QUESTION WILL BE, THIS IS JUST OVER THE, OVER THE ACTUAL AUTHORIZATION OF SPENDING MONEY ON THE CONTRACT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

ONCE THE CONTRACT IS APPROVED, THIS IS, THIS WAS, THIS WAS THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY ADMINISTERED GET GRANTING ROADWAYS OR SHE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

IN OTHER WORDS, ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE DRESSED TO THE ENGINEER OR TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, RIGHT.

THIS IS, THIS IS OVER THE FINANCIAL PART, FINANCIAL QUALITY CONTROL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, BUT ULTIMATELY THE PERSON, THE PERSON WHO CAN TASK A VENDOR IS THIS NAMED PERSON SO THAT UM, YEAH, SO THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN INAPPROPRIATELY CALL ONE OF OUR VENDORS.

YOU CAN GET THEM TO CHARGE MONEY TO US AND CHARGE MONEY TO THE COUNTY.

WELL ACTUALLY IT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD TOO.

I KNOW LIKE WHEN WE

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BUT SHE WAS KIND OF LIKE THE TOGGLE SWITCH CAUSE SHE WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH AND, AND SOLVING PROBLEMS AND WORKING THINGS OUT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A ALL ON A LOT OF THE MINOR STUFF.

AND THEN THE BIGGER STUFF, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO COMMUNICATION.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S COMMUNICATING TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE VENDORS TO KNOW THAT SURE.

WHEN THEY GET A CALL TO, TO WHEN THEY'RE TASKED TO GO DO SUCH AND SUCH A WORK THAT THAT'S AN OFFICIAL TASKING FROM THE COUNTY.

CAUSE I MEAN HE GOT, HE GOT KIND OF FRUSTRATED CAUSE THEY WOULD TALK TO ME AND THEN I WOULDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE FINANCING, YOU KNOW, IN THE KIND OF THE CONTRACT.

I MEAN Y'ALL READ THE CONTRACT, BUT YOU KNOW THOSE STIPULATIONS.

AND OF COURSE SHE'S A PROFESSIONAL PURCHASING LADY, SO SHE UNDERSTANDS THE LAWS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE CHANGES AND STUFF WITHIN THE CONTRACT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LOT OF GO BACK AND FORTH.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE DAY TO DAY STUFF.

NO PROBLEM.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT, THAT, UH, THAT THE COUNTY'S PURCHASING AGENT BE THE DESIGNATED CONTRACT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COUNTY.

IN ALL INSTANCES, UH, ABSENT, UH, NAMED, UH, UH, NAME DEPARTMENTAL HEAD OR COUNTY OFFICIAL, UH, CITED WITHIN THE BODY OF THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE RECURRING TYPE REQUESTS SUCH AS, UH, IDENTIFIED WITH A DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.

SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER CAGES OR A SECOND.

15 COMMISSIONING CASE DISCUSS CONSIDERED DESIGNATED THE PURCHASING AGENT PURSUANT TO THOROUGHFARE PLAN ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENT ARTICLE 4.3 TO ACT AS THE COUNTY'S REPRESENTATIVE COMMISSIONER.

THOSE PPOS KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM

[15. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider designating the Purchasing Agent pursuant to Thoroughfare Plan Administration Agreement Art. 4.3 to act as the County's Representative.]

SO THIS IS RELATED.

THIS IS REALLY THE ISSUE THAT, THAT, UH, UH, BROUGHT THE PREVIOUS, UM, MATTER BEFORE US.

UH, THIS IS THE SOLE CONTRACT, UH, THAT OUR HAS DISCLOSED THAT LACKS A DESIGNATED AGENT.

THIS PARTICULAR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, WHILE THE CONTRACT, WHILE THE CONTRACT, UH, THAT'S IN EFFECT DOES, UH, DOES SPECIFY THAT THE COUNTY WILL DESIGNATE A REPRESENTATIVE DOT ACT ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF.

THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.

UM, SO MY MOTION AS IT'S PRINTED, UH, WAS TO MAKE THE PURCHASING AGENT THAT DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE.

BUT AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY JUDGES OFFICE, UH, JUST AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID, UM, UH, WE, WE, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT NOW TO MAKE IT, UM, MORE APPROPRIATELY THAT THE COUNTY ENGINEER WOULD BE CITED FOR THIS THOROUGHFARE PLAN CONTRACT TO BE THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED AGENT.

UM, THAT JUST, UH, THAT JUST KIND OF FLOWS AND TYPIFIES THAT, THAT A SPECIFIC ISSUE WHERE, UH, THE MOST, UH, THE MOST LIKELY PERSON TO BE DAILY INVOLVED IN THE OVERSIGHT OF THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT OR ANY ISSUES WITH THAT CONTRACT, UM, IN THIS INSTANCE IS, UH, IS BEST VESTED WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE.

UM, IN MY OPINION, IN ANY OPINION, UH, I THINK THE JUDGE'S OFFICE WAS THAT YOU CONCUR WITH THAT JUDGE, I DO IT, THIS IS NOT A MONEY ISSUE.

THIS IS A ROAD ISSUE.

SO I THINK I, I DO THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR THAT TO RESIDE IN THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE.

UH, I'LL DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ONE POINT.

IT DOES ALSO EXTEND THE MONEY BECAUSE IT DOES, BUT IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A PURCHASING ISSUE.

IT'S, UH, IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE, IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE DOES THE, WHERE THE ROADS ARE GOING TO GO WHEN THAT'S NOT WELL WHENEVER YOU, YOU GOT, YOU GOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ENGINEER AND IT'S TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND YOU HAVE, BUT THEY'RE IN THE SAME BUILDING AND IF YOU'RE IN THE SAME BUILDING YOU COMMUNICATE AND IF SOMETHING'S GOING ON AND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WHETHER IT'S COMING IN THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OF SERVICES AND THAT DEVELOPER WANTS TO MODIFY THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THEY CAN, I MEAN THEY'RE IN THE SAME BUILDING AND THEY CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THEN THEY GET THIS DISSEMINATED AMONGST EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.

AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN HIM, WE HAVE 62 PAGES AT THE COMMISSIONER COURT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THEN THE JUDGE HAS SOME STUFF THAT HAS TO DO WITH JUDICIAL AND BUDGET AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO

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THE ROAD IS THE COURT SO WELL THINK THAT WAY WHENEVER IT COMES IN AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN NOTIFIED AND BECAUSE MONIQUE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB KEEPING US ALL IN THE LOOP, WHEN DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AS LONG AS PEOPLE COMMUNICATE WITH HER AND THE DEVELOPERS COMMUNICATE WITH HER, SO THAT WAY IT ALL GETS OUT AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I MEAN I THINK THIS IS, IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT IT.

UM, SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA AND BEAT MORE OF THE WELL THERE? WELL THE ENGINEERS ON THIS FARM, IT IS A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT THEY'RE IN THE SAME BUILDING AND THEY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.

WELL, ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE ROADS IS IT NOT? THAT'S WHY WE'RE DEVELOP ENGINEERING, I MEAN ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON THE APPLICATION.

IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, FORM IT ON THE APPLICATION AND TURN IT INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN IT GOES TO THE ENGINEER, WHETHER IT GOES TO WHAT DEPARTMENT.

WELL THAT'S TRUE.

IT HAS GOT TO, DO THEY HAVE A CHECKLIST THAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED? YEAH.

SHOULDN'T IT? SHOULDN'T IT JUST BE ON THE WEBSITE? THE KNOWN THAT FORM.

I'M JUST ASKING.

I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE IT.

UM, THIS DEPARTMENT, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

CAN YOU TELL ME, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN OR, OR SUGGEST OR ASK WHERE IT GOES OR HOW IT GOES.

THEY SUBMIT, GO ON THE WEBSITE, SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION AND THEIR QUESTION JUST LIKE THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND WE HAVE A FORM ALREADY THERE.

ANYTHING THAT YOU ASKED FOR, IT'S GOING TO GET YOU TO FILL OUT A FORM.

SO CLOSE TO THE RIGHT DIRECTION, RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

AND EVERYBODY'S INFORMED OF IT.

SO IT GOES THROUGH THAT DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S MONIQUE OR WHATEVER, HELPERS OR WHATEVER.

EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED.

I DON'T THINK THEY LET ANYTHING, ANY STONE BE ON, CAUSE I'M GOING TO GO TO THE FIRE MARSHALS TO THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE TO SEPTIC OR WHATEVER WHEN THE PAPERWORK COMES IN.

BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT GETS TO THE ENGINEER AND TWO, IF IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THE ENGINEER BE THE SPOKESPERSON.

YEAH, NO, I, I, UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, IN MY MIND THIS RESOLUTION IS REALLY ABOUT THE ULTIMATE OVERSIGHT OF THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.

IT'S NOT THE, THE MECHANICS NOT TO ADDRESS THE MECHANICS OF, OF HOW THOROUGHFARE, UH, SAME.

WELL THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD BE DISCUSSING WITH HIM IF THEY WON'T DO THAT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S HOW I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T GET IT LOST ANYWAY.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO DIRECT IT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ENGINEERING AND WHATEVER.

WELL, I MEAN IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, AS I'M SAYING, I'M, UH, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE APPOINT THE ENGINEER TO BE THE COUNTY'S REPRESENTATIVE.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

FOR CONTRACT OVERSIGHT.

NOT, NOT NECESSARILY.

NOT FOR THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO TAKE ON THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THOROUGHFARE ADJUSTMENT REQUESTS AND ALL, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR INTERNAL PROCESS SEEMS TO BE PRETTY, RELATIVELY EFFECTIVE.

THIS IS JUST TO ENSURE THAT IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR CONTRACT THAT THERE IS A, THERE WAS AN ULTIMATELY OF SOLE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR THE COUNTIES.

THAT PORTION OF THE COMPLAINTS TO THE COURT AND WE'RE UP, WE'RE KEPT UP TO SPEED TO THE WHOLE PROCESS.

WE DON'T GET SOMETHING IN FRONT OF US AT FIVE OVER SIDE.

ULTIMATELY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

NO WHERE THE OF THE THERAPY PLAN, I'M JUST SAYING THE SAYING THAT IF, IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT NAME, MAYBE ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S ANSWERING QUESTIONS OR SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND ARE NOT INFORMED.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THING I WAS ADDRESSING.

IF IT GOES THROUGH A CHANNEL, GOES TO THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT WILL BE INFORMED PRETTY QUICKLY.

NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.

IF WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT THE COUNTY ENGINEER, IT'S STILL GOING RIGHT, BUT IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH A CHANNEL TO GET TO HIM IN THE SENSE THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING THIS SAY THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY'S NOTIFIED AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO, I GUESS WHAT HE'S SAYING IS HE DOESN'T WANT THE CITY MANAGER OF X CITY COMING AND TALKING TO THE ENGINEER AND THE ENGINEER STARTED MAKING DECISIONS AND THEN CALLS OUR CONSULTANT OR THE CONSULTANT CALLS ENGINEER AND THEY START, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S A GUARANTEED PROCESS THAT THE COURT'S GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT'S NOT A ONE ON ONE INTERACTION.

YES, THEY HAVE TO LOAD IT.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S WORRIED ABOUT BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, I SEE YOUR POINT IS THAT MY RESOLUTION WAS ABOUT NO ONE ON THE NUTS NOT SAYING HOW YEAH.

OF HOW DEPARTMENTAL ORDINATION GOES ON.

AND IF WE, IF WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON THAT, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD ADJUST OR ADDRESS.

BUT UH, THERE'S JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO DESIGNATE ONE PERSON.

WELL, SOMEONE THAT CAN TALK THE LANGUAGE AND THE COUNTY'S MONEY.

ASKED FOR, IT GOES TO THE ENGINEERING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE ALL KEPT IN THE LOOP.

BUT ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT A PRECINCT, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S, IF IT'S BEEN GONE AND

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WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS QUESTION.

THERE'S A LOOP.

IT JUST WENT THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

BUT LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT OVER THERE.

I'M NOT ASKING, I'M JUST SAYING THAT RIGHT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO USE AND HOW THEY, HOW THEY HANDLE REQUESTS.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACT REPRESENTATIVE BEING NAMED.

THERE'S NOT ONE NAMED IN THIS CONTRACT.

SO, AND THE RESULT IS REALLY THROUGH, UH, THROUGH GOOD INTENTION.

THE COUNTY, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE COUNTY HAD ABOUT $7,000 OR SO OF OUR MONEY SPENT.

THAT REALLY NO AUTHORIZED REP.

YEAH, WE KNOW THAT.

THAT'S WHY WE KNOW THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP.

SO IN THIS INSTANCE IS WHERE ALL THE GREASE, WE'LL JUST FIX THAT.

I WILL SAY, UNFORTUNATELY, I FAILED TO ADDRESS ONE OTHER ISSUE IN MY PREVIOUS ITEMS, SO I'LL JUST TRY TO TIE IT ONTO HERE.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PART OF THIS, UH, CONTRACT OVERSIGHT AND ADMINISTRATION, UM, THAT THERE IS A TAD BIT OF A, UH, A WEAKNESS, A POTENTIAL WEAKNESS THAT LISTS AT LEAST IN, IN COMPLETELY IDENTIFYING FUNDING SOURCES FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS.

NOT, NOT NECESSARILY TIED THIS THOROUGHFARE ISSUE, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'VE SEEN IT HERE IN COURT MANY TIMES WHERE WE, WE, UH, ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING AND ULTIMATELY THE AUDITOR HAS TO ASK US, WAIT A MINUTE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? AND SO, UH, SOMEHOW I THINK, UH, AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE NEED TO DEVELOP A RELATIVELY STANDARD ATTACHMENT TO OUR, UM, TO OUR CONTRACTS OF WHICH I HAVE AN EXAMPLE HERE THAT I'LL PASS AROUND TO YOU GUYS JUST CAME FROM THE PURCHASING AGENT, UH, WHICH, WHICH SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES JEW FOR INSTANCE.

UH, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY IN THE, IN THE UH, CONSTABLES CONTRACT.

WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCES? SO A FUNDING MEMO, IF YOU WILL, UH, THAT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES WHERE THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE FUNDED AND WHERE THIS DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE WILL, WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO SPEND THE COUNTY'S MONEY.

AND THAT, THAT CONTRACT IN ADVANCE OF COMING HERE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR APPROVAL WOULD HAVE ROUTED THROUGH THE PURCHASING AGENT'S OFFICE, THE DESIGNATED CONTRACT REPRESENTATIVE'S OFFICE, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, SO THAT EVERYONE INITIALS AND, AND APPROVES AND AGREES TO WHAT THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE GOING TO BE.

SO THAT 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN PERHAPS NONE OF US ARE SITTING HERE, OR MAYBE WE HAVE A NEW AUDITOR, THEN YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T THINK YOUR LABS AND OTHER TENURE THAT THERE'LL BE NO QUESTION ABOUT HOW THAT CONTRACT WAS FUNDED AND, AND, UH, WHAT THE SOURCE OF, OF THOSE MONIES WERE.

SO, UH, I, I, I OMITTED ADDING THAT TO MY PREVIOUS, SO I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK AND FORTH TO COURT.

BUT, UH, I REALLY THINK THAT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THE AUDITOR, UH, THAT WE COULD DEVELOP, UH, AND, AND I THINK EVEN, UH, EVEN JOHN HAS SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS ABOUT FORMALIZING A FUNDING, UH, DOCUMENT AND APPROVALS BY ALL CONCERNED PARTIES AS, AS A PORTION OF EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE ISSUE IN THE COUNTY.

UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE THAT NOW, BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE INFORMAL.

UM, BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO TIGHTEN THAT UP AS WELL.

SO I'LL BRING THAT BACK BEFORE OR THAT NEED YOU TO COME TO THE CORE.

I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THAT PREVIOUS ITEM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND, UH, IMPLEMENTING, IMPLEMENT THAT THE PRAC, I MEAN YOU COULD BRING IT BACK TO THE CORE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT TAKES A COURT ACTION.

I THINK THAT SHE CAN DO THAT.

THAT, UM, YEAH, THAT I'D MOVE THAT THE COUNTY, THAT THE COUNTIES THOROUGHFARE PLAN A ADMINISTRATION CONTRACT, THAT THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT CONTRACT WILL, UH, WILL BE THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

WELL I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS THAT WITH THE COUNCIL AND, AND WITH THE PURCHASING COMMISSIONER RAELYNN AND I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT ON SEVERAL OF OUR CONSULTING CONTRACTS AS OF RECENTLY.

UM, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A DIVIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN ACTUAL, UM, CONSULTING AGREEMENT OR DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF AGREEMENT IT.

UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S A GREAT CONTROL MECHANISM AND RAELYNN USES THAT AS A TOOL TO INVOICE SO THAT THERE'S MARKERS FOR WHEN THE, WHAT'S BEING DONE DURING A PROJECT AND WHEN FUNDS ARE RELEASED.

WELL, IT JUST, SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT HE HAS THAT REMAINING BALANCE.

SO THAT WAS REALLY JUST, OKAY.

SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, I'LL, UH, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS MOTION

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AND WE WILL ALSO REQUIRE THAT THE COUNTY ENGINEER CONTINUE TO COORDINATE ANY, ANY, UH, ADJUSTMENTS OR IMPACTS OR REQUESTS FOR THOROUGHFARE CHANGES BOTH WITH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES AND WITH THE COMMISSIONER SCORE.

AND THE, AND THE PREDNISONE AND AIDS.

AND OF COURSE IF, IF IT'S GOT FINANCING MALT IN IT AND THE PURCHASING, I DO THAT.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

NEXT UP, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER IS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND NOTICE FROM MR CATES? I'M COM.

SORRY.

COMMOTION.

MOST OF OUR COMMISSIONER KATE'S SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

UH, DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[16. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider authorizing Memorial Day Fireworks Sales.]

UH, HE HAD, UH, PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS SALES.

UM, THE, THE COUNTY, UH, HAS THE OPTION OF AUTHORIZING SALES, UH, DURING THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS HERE THAT HAVE ASKED TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.

WE HAVE, UH, MARY BULLARD.

UM, MS BOLAND.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US SOMETHING IF YOU'D STAND UP THERE AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LIVE? JUDGE LAMB, MY NAME IS MARY BULLARD.

I LIVE IN TERRELL ON GRIFFITH AVENUE AND I HAVE A BUSINESS IN PRECINCT THREE.

UH, COMMISSIONER BARBERS.

MY COMMISSIONER, UH, WE COME HERE TODAY, MAN.

ANDY CAME TO GATHER TODAY TO, UH, WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF THE FIREWORK SALE FOR CONSUMER CONSUMPTION.

AND UH, EACH YEAR WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE MICHIGAN COURT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET PERMISSION FOR THE THREE EXTRA HOLIDAYS THEY'VE BEEN ALLOTTED FOR OUR BUSINESS.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO WATCH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WORK THROUGH AND PUT TEXAS BACK TOGETHER AND GET US GOING AGAIN.

AND SO WE'RE THE SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT BENEFIT FROM WHAT YOU'VE ASKED CONTINUE TO CARRY ON EVEN IN THE MOMENTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE CAN HAVE THE, UH, DAY PERIOD IN THERE.

WE HAVE MISSED OUR COM, A LOT OF OUR FIREWORK SALES, BUT OUR BUSINESS GOES ON.

WE HAVE BILLS TO PAY AND PEOPLE TO HIRE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER LETTING US, UH, CONTINUE OUR BUSINESS AS WE KNOW HOW WE'RE MORE THAN GLAD TO DO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT THAT HELPS US COMPLY TO ANYTHING YOU THINK IS IMPORTANT.

UM, SIR, DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK? WILL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? MMM, MY NAME'S ANDY SOUL COME CO-OWNER WITH MY BROTHER, A BIG BANG DISCOUNT FIREWORKS, WHICH HAS TWO LOCATIONS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UM, I JUST REAL QUICK WANTED TO SPEAK OUT.

I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE COME IN HERE AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR FIREWORKS SALES.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO FIREWORKS AND I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.

IN THE LAST YEAR WE, UM, WE HELPED TWO STUDENTS AT COMPLEMENT HIGH SCHOOL PURCHASE SHOW ANIMALS FOR THAT AG PROGRAM.

UM, WE'D DONE A FUNDRAISER FOR A YOUNG MAN THAT GRADUATED LAST YEAR THAT WAS GOING THROUGH CANCER AND WAS ABLE TO RAISE $12,000 TO HELP FOR HIS MEDICAL CARE.

BUT, SO I, MY POINT IS, I GUESS IS JUST WE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY AND WE ARE MORE ABOUT JUST FIREWORKS SALES.

UM, LIKE SHE SPOKE ON, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY PURCHASED THE NOTE, TOUCH THE MONITORS TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ANY GUIDELINES WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING OR WHATEVER IS BEING RECOMMENDED AT THE TIME OF OUR SALES, WHETHER IT BE MORAL DAY, 4TH OF JULY TO COMPLY AND TRY TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE AND WE JUST APPRECIATE Y'ALLS CONSIDERATION OF THE SALES OF THE FIRE, UH, MEMORIAL DAY SEASON.

REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S NOT THE BIGGEST ISSUE.

UM, I GUESS WE MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION OF BROTHER FIRE, MARSHALL AND PEACE GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF SUGGESTIONS ON THE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TELL US SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW THEY'RE GONNA SAFE DISTANCE AND MAYBE HELP US OUT ON THAT LEVEL.

YOU'RE GETTING TO MY POINT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THE MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS SEASON TYPICALLY WITH THE WEATHER DOES NOT CREATE ANY, UH, EXTENSIVE OR EXTRA FIRE HAZARDS.

OPPONENTS JUST DUE TO THE WEATHER AND THE, YOU KNOW, OUR VEGETATION AND SO FORTH.

SO, UH, I'M NOT SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T THROUGH MY OFFICE, I CAN'T SUPPORT ANYTIME THAT THERE'S A REASONABLE, UH, ADDITION TO A FIRE HAZARD.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT THIS TIME OF YEAR IS QUITE

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MY BIGGEST ISSUE RIGHT NOW WOULD BE YOU DID ADDRESS SOMEONE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

HAVE YOU PROVIDED A PLAN TO THE COURT OR DO YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT YOU COULD PRESENT TO THE COURT NOW AS TO HOW WE CAN ASSURE THAT THE DISTANCING PROTECTOR PUBLIC YOU'RE IN SALES? UM, WE ACTUALLY, AND I HAD BEEN TALKING, I DON'T SEE RANDY A WHOLE LOT ANYMORE.

I DEAL MORE WITH CHAD AND THERE HAD BEEN DISCUSSIONS AND I ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH RANDY.

UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT KIND OF REDOING THE WAY OUR STAND HERE IN KAUFMAN WORKS AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY IN THE PAST WEEKS COMPLETELY RECONFIGURED THE SET UP, UM, TO WHERE INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY PILED UP AT A COUNTER TOGETHER, GROUPED UP, IT'S GONE TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING AN OPEN AIR INDOOR CONCEPT.

AND SO NOW IT'S HAS WHERE THEY COME IN AND THERE'S OUTWEIGHS THAT ZIGZAG THROUGH THE STORE THAT CAN BE MADE ONE WAY.

LIKE THEY'VE DONE IT, WALMART AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

SO PEOPLE AREN'T CROSS TRAFFICKING.

AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SET UP, MY PLAN WAS TO GET WITH THE FIRE MARSHALS WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OUR BUILDING OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE OCCUPANCY LEVEL IS AND TRY TO KEEP THAT AT THE 25% LIKE THEY'VE DONE EVERYWHERE ELSE.

AND LIKE I SAID, TAKE TEMPERATURES, REQUIRE MASK IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, ANYTHING WE HAVE TO DO TO, TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER OTHER RETAIL BUSINESSES DO.

AND WE'RE GLAD TO DO THAT.

APPRECIATE YOU.

IF YOU COULD PRESENT WHAT PLAN THAT YOU HAVE AND I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO OVER THAT.

I WOULD MOST LIKELY GO TO MR. UH, CAUSE HE IS OUR GUIDING LIGHT FOR ALL THAT HE WOULD HAVE THE BEST OPTION TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE PLAN AND SEE IF IT'S FIT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH HIM AT ALL.

UH, LET ME ASK STEVE A QUESTION.

STEVE, ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY DIRECT RELATIONSHIP TO THE GOVERNOR'S GUIDELINES THAT REFERENCED FIREWORKS SALES OR THIS KIND OF RETAIL MARKETING? NO SIR.

THERE IS NOTHING IN GHANA.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST? UM, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR LAYOUTS OR ANYTHING, SO JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I SEE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

YES, MA'AM.

ON MOST OR MOST OF THE FIREWORKS THINGS BUT MOST OF THE STANDS ARE OPENING AND SO THAT DOES, UH, I THINK ANY COUNTY THAT I THINK TO TALK TO OFTEN, UH, OFTEN WHEN GIVE THEM TOGETHER AND SAY ALL OF THEM BECAUSE IT'S OUR, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR LIVELIHOOD.

IT'S, IT'S NOT A PASTIME FROM US.

VERY IMPORTANT.

ALSO, WE REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS.

YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL SEE US, YOU KNOW, UH, OPEN YOUR MARKETS.

OUR STANDS ARE STILL PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT IS ACTUALLY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT HOW WE PRESENTED THIS A WHILE AGO.

LIKE THAT WAYS OF DOING IT.

WALMART'S GOT WAYS OF DOING IT AND WE DO TOO.

I JUST THINK THAT PROBABLY WILL MEAN THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME KIND OF, CAUSE IT CAN'T BEAT COMMON SENSE IN EVERYBODY.

SO SOMETIMES I NEED A LITTLE GUIDANCE.

THAT'S ALL.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA ADDRESS IT AND I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO STEVEN OR THE FIRE MARSHALL THEN, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT EVERYBODY'S KIND OF IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHATEVER THE STATE HAS KIND OF MANDATED ON DISTANCING AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I HAVE SEEN IN SEVERAL STORES, MAYBE A PLEXIGLASS THING TOO, BECAUSE MOST OF OUR COUNTERS ARE AT LEAST THREE TO FOUR FOOT WISE.

WELL, AND YOU'RE HIGHER UP GENTLY HIGHER UP.

WE NEED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER.

MEMORIAL DAY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE 4TH OF JULY.

IT'S NOT THE CROWDS.

AND SO I THINK WITH THE MONITORING WE WILL BE ABLE TO MORE THAN SATISFIED.

MISS THIS ONE HERE AND THEN THE COVA DOES BOUNCE BACK AND THEY SHUT THINGS DOWN BY JULY 4TH THEN THEY'VE REALLY MISSED THE BRUNT OF THEIR INCOME FOR THE YEAR.

I THINK, I THINK FAIRLY WELL TO HIM JUST SAYING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF LETTING EVERYBODY BUNCH IT UP OUT FRONT, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S KIND OF OUR CONCERN.

I THINK.

WELL I JUST THINK THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF OUR WORLD NOW.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP THEM.

I GUESS IF THEY DID

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SO YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF TAKE IT WHEN YOU CAN GET IT THE WAY THINGS ARE KIND OF UNPREDICTABLE NOW.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOING IN AND MAKING A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE MY FIREWORKS.

I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE THAT.

AND THAT IS THAT.

I THINK MEMORIAL DAY IS A DIFFERENT HOLIDAY THAN THE OTHER DAYS WHERE WE NORMALLY CELEBRATE WITH FIREWORKS.

IF YOU LOOK UP MEMORIAL DAY, LOTS OF SOURCES, MEMORIAL DAY IS A VERY, A LONG, LONG TIME HOLIDAY.

AND THEN INTENTION ON MEMORIAL DAY IS SAYS IF YOU READ IT, IT'S TO REMEMBER AND MOURN, UH, MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN HERE DIED IN THE SERVICE OF THEIR COUNTRY.

I DON'T MIND ONION IS THAT, IS THAT MEMORIAL DAY IS JUST NOT AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE FIREWORKS.

SO YOU WERE GOING MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER? YES.

LET, LET ME JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THAT BEFORE YOU DO MIKE.

UH, I HAPPENED TO CONCUR WITH THE JUDGE THAT I, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THAT THIS HOLIDAY IS, IS, UH, OF A, OF A NATURE THAT IS TO BE CELEBRATED WITH FIREWORKS.

THAT'S MY PARTICULAR, UH, BELIEF.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A SOLEMN, UM, REALLY MEANINGFUL, ALMOST A SPIRITUAL RECOGNITION OF THE SACRIFICES THAT, THAT ARE, UM, MEN AND WOMEN WHO, WHO'VE, UH, GIVEN THEIR LIVES FOR THE COUNTRY DESERVE.

THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT, UH, EH, THAT ALL OF US, ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE UNDER SIGNIFICANT DISTRESS FROM THIS COVERT ISSUE.

UH, I, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FIREWORKS STAND OPERATORS IN MY PRECINCT AND, UH, I THINK, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THIS IS ALSO SORT OF A, UH, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A WAY FOR YOUR INDUSTRY TO RAMP UP FOR THE BIG HOLIDAYS TO BE, BECOME ORGANIZED AND TO BE PREPARED FOR HOPEFULLY FOR BIGGER CROWDS IN JULY AND, AND, UH, AND THEN TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.

UH, AND SO WHILE I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THIS IS REALLY IN MY OPINION, JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, NOT A HOLIDAY THAT IS, UH, CORRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH FIREWORKS CELEBRATIONS.

UM, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS, IS CRITICAL FOR EVERYONE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT TEMPER MY PARTICULAR PERSONAL BELIEFS, BUT, BUT NORMALLY I DON'T THINK THAT POPPING OFF FIREWORKS, UH, IS, IS REALLY INDICATIVE OF THE INTENT OF MEMORIAL DAY.

OH, OKAY.

MAKE SURE HUNT LIKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND A MOTION TO, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE, IS IT CORRECT.

AND, UH, AUTHORIZE THE DAY FIREWORKS.

THE SECOND IS FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I AM, UH, THANK YOU BOTH FOR

[17. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider approving the filing of a Round XI program grant application with the Texas Historical Courthouse Program for a grant to renovate/preserve the courthouse.]

BEING HERE.

ITEM 17, PAM.

QUARTER.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE FILING OR APPLICATION OF A, OF A ROUND, UH, 11 PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UH, COURTHOUSE PROGRAM.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS AN APPROVED MASTER PLAN, SO THAT IS A STEP THAT WE HAD TO TAKE TO BE ABLE TO, TO APPLY FOR FUNDING TO RESTORE THE COURTHOUSE.

THE FIRST OR THE SECOND STEP WOULD BE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR A PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES.

SO THIS IS A PLANNING AND THE MAXIMUM THAT THE STATE ALLOWS US 500,000.

AND AFTER THAT, UM, THE GRANTS COMING INTO YOUR CYCLES, WE WOULD HAVE 24 MONTHS TO FULFILL THAT, TO GET ALL THE PLANNING SECURED AND DONE.

AND THEN WE WOULD TURN AROUND AND APPLY FOR THE LARGE FUNDING OF THE $6 MILLION.

DOES IT MATTER? PAINT THE INSIDE OUTSIDE.

IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

ON THIS APPLICATION AND THE TURN, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S BEEN A, UH, BEEN A PRETTY GOOD, IT'S BEEN A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT FOR HER.

OH, SO, SO THE, THE MASTER PLAN IS LAID OUT OF WHAT THE, UH, WHAT CHANGES WOULD BE MADE AND WHAT WERE APPROVED THERE, THE STATE.

SO WE HAVE THAT, THAT IN PLACE.

SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, IN SYNC WITH THAT MASTER PLAN.

I'LL ASK REBECCA TO, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND PAM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB

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SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT HAPPENS IS IF THE GRANT IS ONE OF THE BOXES THAT WE CHECK ON THIS APPLICATION IS THAT WE ARE, YOU HAVE TO SAY WHETHER YOU'RE WILLING OR NOT WILLING TO GRANT THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AN E A HISTORICAL PRESERVATION EASEMENT.

RIGHT? SO THIS APPLICATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD HAVE THE BOX CHECK.

YES.

BUT THAT DOESN'T, AN EASEMENT, UH, IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN, ABOUT WHAT THE 40 WE GIVE THEM OVER WHAT WE WOULD DECIDE TO DO IN THE COURTHOUSE.

UH, BUT WE'RE NOT GRANTING AN EASEMENT BY MAKING THIS APPLICATION.

THE EASEMENT WOULD BE A SEPARATE DOCUMENT THAT WOULD COME TO US THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO UM, TO NEGOTIATE IF WE COULD, UH, WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR EXACTLY WHAT CONTROL WINGS SURRENDERING TO THEM OVER THE BUILDING, OVER THE CHANGES IN THE BUILDING.

SO DID I PARAPHRASE THAT PRETTY GOOD, REBECCA? YEAH, NO, I THINK YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL.

I MEAN OBVIOUSLY EASEMENTS ARE NEGOTIABLE ON DIFFERENT TERMS SCOPE, DURATION, UM, BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH STATE FUNDING TYPICALLY, AND THE JUDGE KNOWS THIS VERY WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO NEGOTIATE THOSE DOCUMENTS.

SO DEPENDENT ON WHAT GRANT COMES BACK AND WHAT WERE ACTUALLY AWARDED, UM, THEN YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS AS TO HOW MUCH AUTHORITY TO GIVE THE STATE OR NOT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE STATE DOES HAVE THAT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION STATUTE BECAUSE OUR BUILDING IS A HISTORICAL COURTHOUSE THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH NOTICE BEFORE WE DO ANY CHANGES.

IT'S JUST IF YOU WERE TO FILE A, UH, HISTORICAL EASEMENT THAT WOULD EVEN BECOME STRICTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.

WE JUST HAVE, WE'RE NOT OBLIGATING OURSELVES, WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES UP TO THEM FOR POSSIBLE, FOR A PLANNING GRANT AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND MAKE THE DECISION.

OPERATE SOMEWHAT UNDER A STATE OVERSIGHT AND RESTRICTION.

ALL THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE ON GETTING REBECCA TO THIS HAS BEEN A BIG KIND OF A BIG MYSTERY TO ME EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE.

AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE FINALLY LEARNED.

AND THAT IS THAT AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE AN EASEMENT WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UH HUH.

OUR ONLY REQUIREMENT IS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH 30 DAYS AT MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS NOTICE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE COURTHOUSE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GET THEIR APPROVAL.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD ARGUMENT TO MAKE PROBABLY WHERE THE, WHERE WE GOT INTO TROUBLE WITH THEM BEFORE IS THAT THAT UH, THAT SECURITY VESTIBULE WAS PUT ON THE BUILDING WITH NO COMMUNICATION OR CONTACT WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

SO, AND WE'RE STILL UNDER SANCTION FOR THAT.

BUT UM, ANYWAY, SO WE JUST NEED TO BE, WE JUST NEED TO BE REALLY, UH, CAUTIOUS AND THOUGHTFUL.

IF WE GET THIS GRANT, THEN WE NEED TO REALLY STUDY HARD, UH, HOW MUCH THE GRANT WILL BE FOR AND WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD COME TO GOOD TERMS FOR THE EASEMENT.

SO EVEN IF WE TAKE YES ON THE APPLICATION, THEN IF WE DECIDE NOT TO ACCEPT THE GRANT, THEN THAT JUST GOES AWAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WE ALL SAID WE DO KNOW WE'VE NOT BEEN IN THE MAIL.

IT'S THE MONEY VERSUS WHAT WORTH.

BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THE MASTER PLAN, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, A LOT OF TIME ON THE INSIDE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE INSIDE CORRECT BACK TO THE RIGHT.

AND SO WE'D HAVE TO RESTORE THE, ALL THE WALLS AND THE INSIDES, THE MAILROOM, THE BLAST OF THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO MOVE AROUND.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT GETS TIMELY AND COSTLY IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL BY GRANTING AN EASEMENT.

WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE SANCTIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED? BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT, BUT WE ACTUALLY, THE COUNTY AT ONE POINT, UM, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE RESPONSE WHEN THEY, WHEN THE, WHEN THEY BECAME THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION BECAME AWARE THAT THE COUNTY HAD PUT THIS, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION ON THE BUILDING WITHOUT, WITHOUT NOT REQUESTING PERMISSION, WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEM IN ADVANCE.

UH, THEY CAN FIND US A THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY AND THEY DID FIND THE COUNTY AT ONE POINT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UM, BEFORE I TOOK OFFICE, JUDGE WOULDN'T, I WENT DOWN THERE AND TALKED TO THEM AND TOLD THEM WHAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO REGARDING TRYING TO GET THE JUSTICE CENTER BUILT.

AND UM, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY, THEY WERE VERY COOPERATIVE.

WE HAD A REALLY GREAT MEETING AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

BUT UM, SO

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BUT WE'RE NOT COMMITTING OURSELVES TO AN EASEMENT AT THIS POINT.

IF WE CHECK, IF WE DON'T CHECK THE BOX FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT WORK TOLD.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED IF YOU DON'T AT LEAST, OR IF YOU'RE NOT AT LEAST WILLING TO CONSIDER IF IT'S NOT WORTH THE DOLLAR AND WE DON'T BE NO GOOD REASON.

NEOCLASSICAL OR WHATEVER.

WE WANT TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT BRINGS UP THE SUBJECT THAT IT IS A SCORED GRANT.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA, THERE ARE CERTAIN SCORES THAT WE, YOU WOULD GET FOR EACH AREA.

THE AGE OF OUR COURTHOUSE IS STILL GOING TO HURT US.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS.

UM, WE WERE, UM, HIGHLIGHTED IN THE MAGAZINE, THE MEDALLION, THEY'RE LOOKING AT US.

OUR BOND HAS PASSED.

THIS IS A GOOD TIME.

THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ONLY ONE WITH ONE LAMP RIGHT THERE, THERE WASN'T ANOTHER ONE BUILT LIKE OURS, BUT WHEN THEY, YEAH.

UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE NOT MODERN.

MODERN.

AND IT'S TOO NEW TO SCORE HIGH.

SO IT'S ALL BUT IT'S TOO, SO ANYWAY.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, WHAT'S, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? NO.

UH, WHAT'S BEFORE US WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE FILING OF AROUND 11 GRANT PROGRAM.

GRANT APPLICATION.

IS THERE A MOTION? I MIGHT GET MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO PROVE THAT FALLING IS THEIR SECOND.

I'LL SECOND SEGMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH PAM.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

GOOD JOB.

DO GREAT

[18. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider amending the order regarding access to Kaufman County Buildings.]

WORK.

UH, MIXED UP IS DISCUSSED.

CONSIDER AMENDING THE ORDER REGARDING ACCESS TO COFFIN COUNTY BUILDINGS.

UM, REBECCA, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE GET STARTED OR, UM, NO I DON'T.

I, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THE TIMEFRAME.

THIS EXPIRES ON THE 22ND OF MAY, THE BUILDING'S ORDER.

UM, YOU GUYS EXTENDED YOUR DISASTER DECLARATION UNTIL JUNE 12TH.

AND THEN AS A REMINDER THAT DECLARATION SAYS THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO FOLLOW ANY NEW ORDERS ISSUED BY THE GOVERNOR AND HE HAS SINCE ISSUED NEW ORDERS.

UM, SO WE ARE FOLLOWING THOSE OBVIOUSLY.

UM, AND THEN WITHIN THE BUILDING'S ACCESS ORDER, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INQUIRIES ABOUT IF THAT IS COUNTY PROPERTY AS WELL AS COUNTY BUILDINGS.

IT'S NOT REALLY SPECIFIC, SO SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.

UM, AND THEN ALSO IT DOES ADDRESS CERTAIN COUNTRIES AS FAR AS, UM, PEOPLE WHO VISITED THOSE PLACES RECENTLY SINCE THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS PUT THIS INTO PLACE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

UM, THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS HAS ALSO PUT RESTRICTIONS FOR DIFFERENT STATES AS WELL.

SO ANOTHER ITEM TO CONSIDER IF I CAN DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FIRST OF THAT.

UH, ON ITEM TWO, UH, IT SAYS UNDER THE NAIL, THEREFORE IT SAYS ALL SERVICES IN COMP AND COUNTY BUILDINGS WILL BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

AND, UH, THAT I WOULD, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, BUT WITH THE STIPULATION THAT WE, UH, WE SAY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY, UNLESS OTHER ARRANGEMENTS ARE MADE TO CONTROL BUILDING CAPACITY.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE TAX OFFICE IN THIS BUILDING AND THE TAX OFFICE IN THE, UH, TERRIBLE SUB CUTOUT OUT IMPORTANT HOUSES OPEN.

THEY'RE NOT DOING APPOINTMENTS, BUT THEY ARE CONTROLLING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE FACILITY.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THIS IS REALLY JUST TO MAINTAIN THIS, UH, ORDER PAST ITS EXPIRATION.

SO I PUT THEM IN THE FORM OF A MOTION THAT WE AMEND THE ORDER REGARDING ACCESS TO KAUFMAN COUNTY BUILDINGS WITH THE STIPULATION THAT ITEM TWO ON PAGE ONE CHANGES FROM IT WILL BE ADDED TO BY APPOINTMENT ONLY OR WITH OTHER ARRANGEMENTS MADE TO RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE SPACE.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

MOTION CARRIES A NEW DATE.

JUDGE, IS YOU EXTENDING THE DATE OR EXTENDING THE DATE? YES.

WHAT'S THE NEW DATE? THANK YOU JERRY.

MAY 22ND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

NO, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ORDER.

MAY 22ND.

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I'M GONNA RE I TO DO A REDO ON THAT.

UH, THE I BELIEVE IT WILL MAKE THAT THROUGH JUNE 1ST BECAUSE I MEAN THAT'S WHERE THE JP COURTS AND STUFF.

YES.

SO, UM, SO TO BE, OKAY.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS GO BACK TO THAT ITEM AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ORDER REGARDING ACCESS TO COUNTY, KAUFMAN COUNTY BUILDINGS.

IT WOULD EXTEND THIS, IT WOULD EXTEND OUR ORDER THROUGH JUNE 1ST AND IT CONTINUED TO HAVE THE STIPULATION I PUT IN THERE, WHICH IS NOT BY A POINT WE'VE BEEN ADD BY APPOINTMENT ONLY TO THE BUILDINGS UNLESS OTHER ARRANGEMENTS ARE MADE TO RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE SPACE.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I WAS THINKING SAME WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

UH, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE VOTING ON IX OR JUST REDOING THAT AND CHANGING IT TO JUNE, MAKING IT EXTEND TO JUNE 1ST.

THAT'S THE MOTION.

AND THE SECOND DISCUSSION, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, ITEM 19 THIS, UM, WELL THANK JERRY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND THIS IS, UH, I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO GO IN ALL OF THE DETAIL ON THIS, BUT UM, IT'S REALLY ABOUT, I'LL JUST EXPLAIN IT AS I GO.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU REBECCA FOR KITCHEN.

THAT NO PROBLEM.

[19. Judge Richards; Discuss re-opening plans for Kaufman County.]

WE'RE FOLLOWING THE GOV THERE.

WE'RE FOLLOWING THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER AND ALL OF THE, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HE PUT ON US AND PUT ON EVERYBODY IN THE STATE ABOUT GOING BACK TO WORK.

25% OCCUPANCY.

UH, SOME KINDS OF OPERATIONS ARE ABLE TO FUNCTION IN, SOME ARE NOT.

YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

UH, EFFECTIVE.

ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNOR WHEN HE DO HIS OPEN TEXAS ON MAY 8TH, THEY OPENED A HAIR SALONS, THE BARBERSHOPS, NAIL SALONS.

UM, HE OPENED THOSE, HE OPENED THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WITH CERTAIN STIPULATIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO MAKE PEOPLE MAKE SURE THEIR PEOPLE ARE SAFE.

UH, ON MAY 18TH, UH, DO YOU KNOW, HE CHANGED THINGS AND INCLUDED, UH, GYMS AND EXERCISE FACILITIES TO BE OPENED UP TO CAPACITY AT 25%.

AND BASICALLY THE COUNTY IS, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE OUR, WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDER TO MIRROR THAT.

WE'RE JUST GOING ALONG WITH WHAT THE GOVERNOR IS INSTRUCTED.

AND OF COURSE I THINK HE'S DOING, UM, WHICH FOLLOWING THE, WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE FEDS SAID TO DO TO, UH, THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT CREATED SOME CONFUSION THAT UH, COUNTIES WHO HAD FEWER THAN FIVE CASES, UH, THE COUNTY JUDGE COULD, UH, SIGN ON AT THE STATION THAT, UH, WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO ALLOW THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE 50% CAPACITY INSTEAD OF 25% CAPACITY.

CLEARLY THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO US BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE THAN FIVE CASES IN OUR COUNTY.

TASK FORCE WAS THE INVOLVEMENT THAT WE GOT FROM SO MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTY BUSINESS OWNERS.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT AS SOON AS WE FOUND OUT THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS GOING TO BE COMING FORTH WITH A, AN OPENING UP ORDER, WE ORGANIZED A TASK FORCE AND ACTUALLY WE WEREN'T, I THOUGHT WE HAD A UNIQUE IDEA, BUT I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF OTHER COUNTY JUDGES WHO WERE ALL BASICALLY DOING THE SAME THING, GETTING THEIR BUSINESS COMMUNITIES TOGETHER AND CHURCHES TO GET THEM.

WE THOUGHT THAT THE GOVERNOR, ALL OF US THOUGHT THAT THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER OPENING BUSINESS WOULD BE FAIRLY, UH, UH, UNDEFINED AND THAT IT WAS GOING TO FALL TO THE COUNTIES TO, TO INTERPRET WHAT HE SAID AND THEN TO COME UP WITH THE DETAILS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE WE WERE HAVING, WHEN YOU REMEMBERED THE WAIVERS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, WE WERE HAVING TO KIND OF MAKE IT UP AS WE WENT ALONG.

ALL THE COUNTIES, THE COUNTY JUDGES I TALKED TO WERE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME EXPECTATION THAT HE WAS JUST GOING TO GIVE US SOME SORT OF LOOSE GUIDELINES AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE, SO HOW CAN WE OPEN A RESTAURANT OR HOW CAN WE OPEN A SMALL RETAIL STORE? WELL, HE FOOLED US, UH, BECAUSE HE CAME UP WITH THIS, THAT BOOK THAT HE PRODUCED, WHICH HAD A LOT OF DETAIL IN IT.

WE STILL HAD SOME INTERPRETATIONS.

SO WE'VE BEEN DOING BUT NOT TERRIBLY SIGNIFICANT.

SO THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF THIS

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AND CHURCHES, UH, ORGAN CHAMBERS REALLY HELPING US PUT DOWN SOME GUIDELINES WHICH, UH, WHICH WE PRODUCED AND SUMMARIZED, UH, LATER.

BUT IT WAS A REALLY A GREAT COMMUNITY EFFORT.

LIKE WE HAD SOME GREAT WITH SOME GREAT PARTICIPATION.

SOME OF THEM HAD THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THEY GOT THEIR WORKING GROUP ORGANIZED.

UH, THE NEW NORMAL, I THINK LINES ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF GOODS AND SERVICES FOR SOME TIME.

UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SEEN HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S AND THAT SORT OF THING.

EVERYBODY'S WORKING OUT WAYS TO CONTROL THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THEIR BUSINESSES.

THEY'RE NOT TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE.

I'VE GOT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE, UM, FACILITIES DEPARTMENT IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE SCREENS THAT THEY PUT UP IN THE ANNEX TO PROTECT THE CLERKS.

THEY DID A FANTASTIC, THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB THERE IN PRETTY SHORT TIME.

UH, IT WAS KIND OF WORKING ON THE FLY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT AND I DON'T THINK HE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE ANY MORE PROFESSIONALLY IF IT HAD BEEN, IF IT HAD COME FROM A FACTORY.

SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT EFFORT.

UM, WE ARE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO COMING FORWARD, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING OR WHAT OUR IDEA IS, IS TO PROVIDE UNIFORM SIGNAGE IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY.

UH, YOU SEE THE STOP SIGN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE.

IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE COMING INTO A COUNTY BUILDING, YOU'RE GOING TO READ THIS SIGN.

IT SAYS, IF YOU'RE SICK, DON'T COME IN HERE.

UM, UH, WE'RE GOING TO ALSO GET SIGNAGE LIKE YOU SEE IN STORES WHERE WE HAVE FOOTPRINTS INDICATING TO PEOPLE EXACTLY WHERE YOU SHOULD BE STANDING AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO SOMEBODY, UH, AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THAT.

NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT FAIRLY UNIFORM ACROSS THE COUNTY AND THOSE SIGNS ARE ALL AVAILABLE.

YOU WON'T BE SURPRISED TO KNOW YOU CAN BUY THAT STUFF ON THE INTERNET PRETTY QUICK.

UM, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AS FAR AS HOUSEKEEPING, AND THIS REALLY IS A, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO, TO STERILIZE SURFACES.

UH, THEY'RE IN THE COURTHOUSE, UH, WIPING SURFACES, DOOR OBS AND SURFACES DOWN EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE IN THE ANNEX EVERY DAY OR IN THE FORNEY, TERRELL AND SOUTH CAMPUS, MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY.

AND THEN THE EXTENSION OFFICE, IT AND JUVENILE PROBATION LIBRARY AND THE CAMP SUB COURTHOUSE ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.

UH, THEY'RE BEING REALLY DILIGENT ABOUT THAT AND UH, I APPRECIATE HOW MUCH WORK THEY'RE PUTTING INTO IT.

AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO CLEAN AS THEY GO, BUT THEY'RE SPENDING MOST OF THEIR TIME.

I'VE ASKED, I ASKED BOBBY LONG TIME AGO TO HAVE THEM SPEND MORE TIME STERILIZING SERVICES AS OPPOSED TO DOING THEIR NORMAL CLEANING.

SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME DUST BUNNIES AND STUFF.

WE HAD SOME OF OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, WAYS, YOU KNOW, WE SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GIVE US WHAT THEY NEED OR WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC IS THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO PROVIDE A SURGICAL MASKS.

IS THAT THE RIGHT TERM, STEVE SURGICAL MASKS TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHO WANT THEM, WHO WILL MANDATE WEARING THE MASKS.

WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE OUR SUPPLY.

SO IF A DEPARTMENT HEAD WANTS THEIR PEOPLE TO WEAR MASKS, WE'LL SUPPLY THEM WITH MASK.

BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY GOT TO USE THEM.

THEY CAN'T JUST START PILE THEM SOMEWHERE BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO PRESERVE HOW MANY WE HAVE.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR NON-CONTACT THERMOMETERS AND UH, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE DEPARTMENT.

50 OR $60.

I THINK THE ONLY THING ABOUT, UH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURE, YOU'VE GOT TO GET WITHIN ABOUT TWO OR THREE FEET OF THEM.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT A LOT OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY WANT TO DO THAT.

UM, UH, I WOULDN'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO DO IT.

SO, UH, THEY CAN, THEY CAN BUY THE PHONE WAS OUT OF THEIR BUDGET IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DESIRE TO DO, IF THEY'RE GOING TO MANDATE TEMPERATURE CHECKS.

WE'VE DONE, WE'VE GOT A FANTASTIC PROJECT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

IT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, UH, WORKING WITH THE IT GUYS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON SETTING UP, UH, AND WITH, UH, JUDGE BLAIR AND THE OTHER JUDGES SETTING UP A WEBEX PLATFORM.

UM, YOU PROBABLY KNOW AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND JUST OTHER SLIDE ABOUT THE RESTRICTIONS ON COURTS AND, YEAH, WHAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE IN A YEAR OR TWO IS HOW MUCH OF THIS WORK THAT WE'RE DOING LAW ENFORCEMENT IN HEARINGS AND WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER

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AND THE COURTS, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A WEBEX.

I THINK EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW WAY OF DOING BUSINESS AND IT'S GOING TO REDUCE A LOT OF THE TRANSPORTING THAT WE DO OF TAKING, BRINGING PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH INTO THE COURTS, UH, UNDER GUARD WHEN THEY CAN JUST, THEY CAN DO IT.

THEY CAN HAVE A HEARING ON WEBEX TRIALS AND THINGS OR, YOU KNOW, JURY TRIALS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE IN PERSON.

JUST A SUMMARY OF ALL OF OUR OFFICES.

THE MAIN COURTHOUSE IS BY APPOINTMENT COUNTY CLERK, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS, DISTRICT CLERK, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THOSE ARE ALL BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

THE REST OF OUR FACILITIES ARE RESTRICTED ACCESS.

UH, WE HAVE SOMEBODY MONITORING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT SPACE, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, SOME PLACES WE JUST DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE ROOM, PARTICULARLY IN THE, SOME OF THE SUB COURTHOUSES.

SO WE HAVE TO RESTRICT HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE IN THERE.

UH, VETERAN SERVICES GOING BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO OPERATE WITH LIMITED HOURS AND SERVICES AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING STAFFING RAMP UP PRETTY MUCH ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

THE COURTS IN THOSE AFFILIATED ORGANIZATIONS, THE DISTRICT CLERK, ADULT PROBATION, ALTHOUGH THOSE ARE ALL OPERATING, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE GUIDANCE OF THE, UH, THE STATE.

THE COURTS ARE THERE, THEY'RE FALLING IN THE OCA OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION GUIDELINES.

UH, THOSE IN THERE.

OUR COURTS ARE OBVIOUSLY UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE SUPREME COURT OF TEXAS.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT A JUNE.

THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS FOR A JUNE 1ST UH, OPENING, DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE EXTENT THAT THERE'LL BE OPENING, BUT UH, THERE'LL BE MORE COURTS ACTIVITY GOING ON AFTER JUNE 1ST AND UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STAND AS FAR AS OUR REOPENING.

UH, I WOULD SAY THAT ALL OF THE DATES AND EVERYTHING IN THERE, EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE GOVERNOR TELLS US AND WHAT OCA DECIDES THEY'RE MONITORING, YOU KNOW, MONITORING THE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HOSPITALIZED AND WHAT THE CASE LOAD LOOKS LIKE.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? JERRY? THANK YOU.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB.

THAT WAS A VERY GOOD JOB.

VERY CLEAR.

UM, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW IT IF THEY WANT TO.

[20. Discuss/Consider line item transfers.]

NEXT STEP.

UM, LON, I'M TRANSFERS.

MADAM AUDITOR, THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU LAST WEEK.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

AS FOR YOUR APPROVAL, MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE A LINE OF TRANSFERS IS PRESENTED AS A SECOND.

SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

NEXT UP, UH, CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

[21. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $2,087,176 AND 40 CENTS A PAYROLL OF 1,000,300 $19,880 AND 62 CENTS FOR A TOTAL OF $3,407,057 AND 2 CENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THE MAIN ON THE, ON THE PAYABLE SIDE WAS INSURANCES AND SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR UM, PRECINCT FOUR AND ALSO THE, THE, THE DAM AND BRIDGE REPAIRS THAT WERE DONE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVING CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOST EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER CASE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT DURING THIS MEETING WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THOSE POPE.

OH, THOSE COMMITTEES.

WE'VE GOT ONE EYE, TWO EYES, THREE EYES.

SO THAT'S NO A NO NOSE.

THAT'S THREE EYES THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[22. Adjourn Regular Meeting]

MR CAGE.