Jun 09, 2020 Commissioners Court

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BRING MY GAMBLE, THIS REGULAR

[Call to Order]

UH, TODAY IS JUNE 9TH, 2020 9:00 AM.

WE ARE IN THE, UH, COURTHOUSE ANNEX AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM.

UH, AT FIRST TO ASK EVERYBODY TO STAND, UH, I'LL OFFER AN INVOCATION FOR US, AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER HODGKIN OFFER THE PLEDGES LORD.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE, ALL THE JOYS AND BLESSINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LIVES.

AND IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR US TO REMEMBER THOSE THINGS.

AS WE DEAL WITH IT, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF NEW THINGS THAT HELP US TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE.

WE REPRESENT AND PROTECT ALL OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE ARMED FORCES AND PROTECT THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO STAND FOR US.

WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

YEAH.

WE ALWAYS INVITE THE PUBLIC TO, UH, SPEAK ABOUT ANY ISSUES, ANYTHING THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA.

I DID NOT GET ANY CARDS TODAY FROM ANYONE DON'T LOOK, LET'S JUST LOOK LIKE IT'S ALL OUR COUNTY FOLKS WITH US TODAY.

UH, ITEM ONE ROUTINE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE]

I THINK COMMISSIONER HAUNT HAS SOME CORRESPONDENCE INFORMATION TO DELIVER.

YES, I'LL HAVE TO JUST SHARE WITH SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

THERE ARE A MONTHLY, UM, COUNTY CLEANUP THAT WE'RE DOING MONTHLY AT THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

UH, WE DID CALL FROM AN MAY 30TH.

UH, WE HAD 101 PARTICIPANTS AND, UH, THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

UH, THE BIGGEST ISSUE, THE BIGGEST DEAL WAS 40 OF THEM CAME TO COFFIN FROM CAMP IN 26 WAS SECOND PLACE.

DIDN'T CALL THE KAUFFMAN PEOPLE, BUT THERE WERE SCATTERED ALL THE WAY TO QUINLAN ADDRESSES AND STUFF.

SO, UH, AND THEN 40, WE HAD ONE LAST WEEKEND AND COFFIN.

WE HAD 90, 30 YARD DUMPSTERS IN THREE 30 YARD RECYCLABLES.

AND THEN IN 40, THIS LAST WEEKEND WE HAD, UH, EIGHT 30 YARD DUMPSTERS AND TWO 30 YARD RECYCLABLES AND THE, UH, REAR LOADER FULL, WHICH IS ANOTHER THREE 30 YARD DUMPSTERS.

SO IT'S AMAZING.

WHERE DID THE PEOPLE IN FORNEY COME FROM? DID YOU TRACK THAT? UH, DICK DIDN'T GET THAT TO ME.

HE JUST SAID THAT THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT HE GONNA GIVE ME THAT THE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS AND HOW MANY PARTICIPANTS TOOK PLACE.

SO IT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE.

I'M SURE IF YOU HAD EIGHT AND 40 AND NINE 30 YARD DUMPSTERS IN KAUFMAN, SO THE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE PRETTY CLOSE, BUT IT'S JUST AMAZING HOW MUCH TRASH WE HAVE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT, AND I THINK IT SPLITS IT UP INSTEAD OF THE ONE DAY, A YEAR WHERE WE HAVE THE MILE LONG LINES IN FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES ALL DAY LONG FOR TWO DAYS.

I THINK THIS ONCE A MONTH FREED UP IS MAKING THE DIFFERENCE.

SO MIKE, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK YOUR NUMBERS DO POINT OUT MY CONTINUING CONCERN THAT PARTICULARLY FOR PRECINCT FOUR, THAT AS WE REVIEW THIS CONTRACT, THAT, THAT A, THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME INCREASE CONSIDERED IN THE, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PARTICULARLY COUNTY CLEANUP OPPORTUNITIES THAT'S AVAILABLE IN PRECINCT FOUR.

YEAH.

AND, UM, IN THE NEXT ONE, PRECINCT FOUR IS GOING TO BE AN AUGUST BECAUSE THE CONTRACT SAID THIS YEAR AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ONE WITH THE MAYOR WAS ACTUALLY PRESENT.

THEY SEEM INTERESTED AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS WITH THE AD BLOCKER, A ONE ACRE LOT.

THAT'S TOO SMALL TO REALLY DO ANYTHING, BUT I'VE OFFERED THEM AN OPTION.

LIKE WHAT WE DO HERE WITH THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN, WHERE WE'RE PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN AND WE USE THEIR TRASH CONTRACTS.

WE CAN GET THE PRICES DOWN A LITTLE BIT BETTER CAUSE THEY PICK UP ALL THE CITY TRASH.

UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS NOW WITH VENDORS TRYING TO GET A CITY CONTRACT.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO, UH, JUST A, UM, THEY'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT DOING IT THEMSELVES.

SO I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND OF IN LIMBO AND WE'RE KIND OF WAITING.

I KNOW YOU OFFERED TO GO MEET WITH ALL OF US, BUT WE LOOKED AT THE PLACE THEY HAVE AND UH, IT'S JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH TO, UH, TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO THEY HAD TO COME UP WITH A BIGGER PLACE.

WE DO HAVE JUST A, JUST FOR INFORMATION WE DID, THE PRECINCT DID LEASE A NEW EXPANDED, UM, MATERIAL STORAGE LOT DOWN IN SCURRY.

SO, UH, IF, UH, IF YOU HAVE A LEASE THEN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT A STATION

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WELL, WE CERTAINLY AT LEAST CONSIDER IT.

WELL, THIS WAS A TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT STUFF.

I MEAN THE BUDGET STUFF WE'RE FIXING IT STARTED ON AND WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE BUDGETS AND WE JUST NEED TO GET WITH, UH, KAREN AND, AND, AND, AND WE WANT TO TRY TO GET OUR NUMBERS TO WHERE IT'S EASILY RECOGNIZABLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS SPLIT FOUR WAYS FOR SO MANY YEARS.

AND THEN WE'RE MAKING THE TRANSITION TO WHERE WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THE KAUFFMAN DEAL WHERE WE CAN LEXA LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE STAND.

AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO EXPAND UPON THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME WAY OR ANOTHER.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S NO QUESTION THAT PARTICULARLY THAT CRANDALL AREA, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ITS GROWTH AND ITS ANTICIPATED GROWTH.

SURE, SURE.

I MEAN, I JUST, I DON'T SEE THIS TRASH GETTING SMALLER.

I JUST SEE IT GETTING BIGGER.

SO I'M SURE IT'S ALRIGHT.

MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

NEXT UP ITEM TO

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

I THINK HE HAD SOMETHING TO MATT HIVE IN THAT REPORT THAT HE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TO US.

IS THAT CORRECT? CHAD? UH, I KNOW RANDY WANTED TO POINT OUT THE, UH, SOME OF THE BUILDING PERMITS THAT WE HAD COME IN AND A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF, UH, FEES THAT WE HAD COME IN FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, UH, $60,993 AND 61 CENTS.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE TAKEN IN SEVERAL FIREWORKS, PERMITS, AND WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL MORE TO GO.

IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT WITH JULY 4TH, BEING ON A SATURDAY THIS YEAR, UM, HAD A FEW FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY PERMITS AND SOME OTHER MINOR PERMITS COME IN.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING HE WANTED TO POINT OUT.

I WILL SAY THAT SINCE WE'RE TALKING TO THE FIRE MARSHALL STUFF, BUT, UH, I INVITED, UH, ASHLEY, THE YELLOWS EMPLOYEE WITH THE DOG.

YES, SIR.

ARSON DOG.

AND THAT WAS A GREAT PROGRAM AT THE LION'S CLUB.

IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYBODY REALLY LOVED IT.

AND I JUST, I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT ASSET FOR THE COUNTY.

YES, SIR.

ALL THE CDD COUNTY, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I AGREE.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE, UH, ONE FIRE SUSPICIOUS FIRE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE DOG I THINK GOT THREE OR FOUR HITS ON, UH, UH, IGNITABLE LIQUIDS.

SO IT'S A BIG, BIG BENEFIT FOR THE COUNTY.

GOOD.

GREAT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FARM MOTIONS REPORT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR POINTING OUT THAT DIFFERENCE THERE.

UM, DOES ANYONE, DOES ANYONE CARE TO DISCUSS ANY PARTICULAR OTHER ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS ONE ITEM, UH, MIKE, THAT MOTION, THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, WE HAVE JUDGE

[3. Judge Adams/Leona Bounds; Discuss/Consider approving ILA with the City of Crandal) for use of P ^ ° Citation Writer.]

SOMEBODY REMIND ME IF HE SHOWS UP THAT WE NEED TO GO, COME BACK TO THAT ITEM.

AND JUDGE, I WORKED WITH THAT PRECINCT ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, SO I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO IF YOU WANT THAT.

OKAY.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

SO WHAT THIS IS IS THE, THE JP IS HAVING ISSUES WITH MANUAL ENTRIES OF CITATIONS AND A LOT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS USE E TICKET WRITERS EXCEPT FOR CRANDALL PD.

AND SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF MANUALLY ENTERING THEM AND PROGRAMMING THEM IN VERSUS JUST PLUGGING IN THE TICKET WRITER AND TRANSMITTING THEM ELECTRIC ELECTRONICALLY KIND OF OUTWEIGHS PRICE OF THE MACHINE.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS CREATED, UM, AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD ACTUALLY USE ONE OF THE COUNTY'S MACHINES, UM, AND THEN RETURN IT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD PURCHASING A LABEL THAT MACHINE AND INVENTORY IT, AND THEN THEY AGREE TO ASSUME ALL RESPONSIBILITY REGARDING ANY DAMAGES AND AUDITING HAS THE PRICE FOR THE ACTUAL MACHINE THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE AGREEMENT.

AND THEN THE PRECINCT ALSO NEEDS TO GET THE HOURS, UH, MINISTRATIVE COST HOURS SAVED.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE AGREEMENTS THEN SIGNED BY THE CITY OF CRANDALL.

UH, WOULD YOU ADVISE US TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT THOSE TWO THINGS? WITHOUT THE, I THINK THAT YOU'RE FREE TO APPROVE IT JUST BECAUSE AUDITING HAS WORKED THOSE NUMBERS IN THE PAST.

AND I BELIEVE MS. MCCLOUD MAY CORRECT ME, BUT I BELIEVE THAT, UM, MAYBE THERE'S JUST A FEW CONFIRMATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED FROM JP FOUR.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TWO MONTHS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND I'M FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS LEGAL IS.

YEAH, IT IS COUNTY PROPERTY.

YEAH.

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OKAY.

UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, SO DO YOU KNOW OF ANY SENSE OF EMERGENCY THAT WOULDN'T, THAT IT WOULDN'T WAIT TILL OUR NEXT, HONESTLY IT'S BEEN PENDING FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

SO, UM, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.

HE, HE, THE JUDGE JUDGE ADAMS, UH, AND LEONA HAD TALKED TO ME ABOUT PURCHASING IT OUT OF THE, UM, THEIR TECHNOLOGY FUNDS.

SO IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THEIR GENERAL VENDOR FOR THE MACHINE, THE TICKET.

OKAY.

THE DRESS WAS MY SHOW.

SO IT'S COMING OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY FUND.

OKAY.

UM, ALRIGHT THEN, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THIS, BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF CRANDALL? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CAGE FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO.

SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[4. Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter a public hearing.]

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO EXIT A REGULAR MEETING AND INTO A PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND WHERE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, SO

[5. Public Hearing; Receive input from the public regarding placing "No Thru Truck" signs on the following County Road within Pet. 4: County Road 4085.]

WILL YOU BRIEF US ON THAT? UH, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST A, UH, A, UH, SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS.

THIS 40, 85 IS IN THE VICINITY OF, UH, MANY OF THE GRAVEL PITS AND, AND, UH, THE GRAVEL HAULERS.

SO USE IT AS A SHORTCUT, UH, CAUSES A LOT OF DAMAGE TO THE ROAD.

A LOT OF DISRUPTION OF THE RESIDENTS THERE.

UH, THEY SIMPLY, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A VERY VIABLE ALTERNATIVE ROUTE RIGHT UP 34, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE THEY SHOULD BE TRAVELING.

SO WE JUST WANT TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY POST, UH, NO THROUGH TRUCK SIGNS, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS THERE AND AS WELL AS TO MITIGATE AND MINIMIZE THE DAMAGE TO OUR COUNTY ROAD.

OKAY.

SO WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE WITH US WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED ACTION? IS THERE ANYONE WITH US WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS POST ACTION? NO ONE COMING FORWARD.

UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX,

[6. Discuss/Consider exiting public hearing and enter back into regular meeting.]

IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVE, WE MAKE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KATE'S.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BORROWER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

UH, THOSE POSTS KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM SEVEN,

[7. Discuss/Consider placing "No Thru Truck" signs and approving order for same to be placed on the following County Road: County Road 4085.]

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN BRIEFED ON THAT.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM SEVEN, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE? THE, UH, ITEM IS WRITTEN.

UH, WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM SEVEN AS WRITTEN AND BRIEFED.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES AUTOMATE REBECCA

[8. Rebecca Lundberg; Discuss/Consider approving Interlocal Agreement with City of Forney regarding regulatory authority within the ETJ; pursuant to TLGC §242.001.]

OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO RENEW THESE ETJ AGREEMENTS.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE SECOND ONES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH AND INVOLVES THE CITY OF FORNEY.

THE FIRST PERIOD OF THE AGREEMENT IS ABOUT 16 MONTHS, AND THEN IT HAS AN AUTO RENEW FOR TWO YEAR PERIODS.

AFTER THAT POINT, 40 WILL BE ASSUMING THE AUTHORITY FOR PLATTING DRIVEWAY, AUTHORITY PERMITTING, AND AS WELL AS FLOOD PLAIN COUNTY WILL RETAIN FIRE CODE ONSITE, SEWER NINE 11, UM, OBVIOUSLY COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE AND, UH, BUILDING PERMITS.

AND SO THAT SHOULD SEEM, IT SHOULD ORGANIZE THE WAY THAT OUR PLANNING WORKS IN THE ETJ OF 40.

UH, THIS IS, WE HAVE DISAGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH OTHER CITIES.

THIS AGREEMENT WAS MANDATED IN THE EARLY TWO FOR EVERY MUNICIPALITY.

SO WE DO HAVE IT IN PLACE.

HOWEVER, MOST OF THEM ARE OUTDATED.

AND SO THE CITY OF TERRELL WAS OUR FIRST ONE, UM, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO RENEW.

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SO ANY OF YOUR MUNICIPALITIES, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTACT OR REACH OUT TO MONIQUE AND HER CREW AND WE CAN GET STARTED ON PARSING OUT WHAT PARTS OF PLANNING THEY MAY WANT OR NOT WANT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF FORNEY REGARDING REGULATORY AUTHORITY WITHIN THE ETJ? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, WITH THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

REBECCA ITEM NINE, SHERIFF

[9. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider approving deputation of Joseph D Sharp as Deputy Sheriff for Kaufman County Sheriff's Office.]

THIS IS DEPUTY SHARP.

HE'S GOING TO BE A RESERVED DEPUTY.

UH, HE'S GOT 28 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

HE GOT HIS MASTERS, HE GOT SEVERAL OTHER CERTIFICATES AND TRAINING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT HIM ON AS A RESERVE.

HE'S WORKED FOR THE COUNTY BEFORE, AND HE'S ALSO BEEN IN PRECINCT FOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF.

I DON'T KNOW, 28 YEARS.

YOU COULDN'T FIND ANY MAY WANT A LITTLE MORE CONVENIENCE.

ALRIGHT, THEN, UH, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OF THE SHERIFF, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVING DEPUTIZATION OF JOSEPH D. SHARP AS DEPUTY SHERIFF I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK SHERIFF.

ADAM TANGIER, SHERIFF BEAVERS

[10. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider accepting donation from Protecting K9 Heroes Glenwood, IL: 2 K-9 Trauma Kits @ $250.00 each for Sheriff's Office K-9 Unit.]

UH, WELL, UH, THEY REACHED OUT TO US.

WE WROTE, UH, UH, SOME INFORMATION TO US AND THEY SENT US TO TRAUMA KITS TO HELP WITH OUR CANINE UNITS.

UH, CASEY, THE ONE OF THEM STABBED SHOT OR, UH, OVERDOSE WITH ANY NARCOTICS I GET THERE, UH, PAUL'S OR MOUTH ON.

SO WE'LL LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN ACCEPT THESE KIDS TO HELP PROTECT OUR CANINE PARTNERS.

QUESTION FOR THE SHERIFF.

IF YOUR REAL QUESTIONS IS EMOTION, I'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DONATION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

SHERIFF OUT OF

[11. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Consider approving deputations of Roy Williams, Jr. and Aaron Ross as Reserve Deputy Constables for Kaufman County Pet. 2 Constable's Office.]

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE FROM HIS OFFICE.

UH,

[12. Commissioner Phillips; Discuss/Consider purchasing a 2014 Midland SPD8 Self Propelled Road Widener in the amount of 77, 897.50 for Pet. 2.]

WEIDNER IN THE AMOUNT, $77,897 FOR PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONER.

YEP.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

ROAD RUNNER.

IT WAS IN THEIR RENTAL FLEET.

IT'S LIKE A 215 POUND METAL MACHINE IN MUMBAI PRESENTING THIS HIM DOWN HOUR.

SO QUESTIONS, I GUESS I'M PAYING PART DONATE AND LENNY.

SO IT'S COMING.

IT'S COMING.

IT'S COMING OUT OF MY, OUT OF YOUR BUDGET.

YEP.

OKAY.

UM, I MAKE A MOTION.

YOU MAKE A MOTION TO PURCHASE THAT ITEM.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO PURCHASE THAT.

IS THERE A SECOND? LAST SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.

I AM 13

[13. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider the purchase of a new Bomag BW211D-5, in the amount of $114,837.15; utilizing Buyboard Contract #597-19 for Precinct #1.]

THIS IS A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR PRECINCT ONE.

UM, IT WILL BE PAID FOR OUT.

IT WILL NOT BE FUNDING.

I APOLOGIZE.

COMMISSIONER I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PURCHASED THE BOMAG SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING ON OUR ROADS.

UH, WE HAVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER.

I DON'T HAVE TO PURCHASE THAT BOMAG AT 114,008 37.

IS THERE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE POSES KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES A RAVEN RAYLAND DISCUSSION.

CONSIDER

[14. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider TexasBit contract for John Wayne Road in the amount of $161,409.32 and Crowell Road in the amount of $141,495.92; utilizing RFP 20-03 for Precinct ffl.]

THIS WILL BE A, A TWO SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR PRECINCT ONE.

SO WE ARE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF OUR ORIGINAL MATERIALS CONTRACT THAT WE HAD FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR,

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SO WE'RE JUST, WE'VE GOT THE MONEY TO PAY SOME CONTRACTORS TO WORK WHILE WE'RE WORKING IN.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD.

HOW MUCH LINKEDIN? WE TORMENT ON THOSE TWO ROADS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID, OKAY.

OKAY.

I'D BE LOUD.

JUST CURIOUS.

SO, UM, WHAT FUND IS THIS CONFERENCE? UH, CONTINGENCY YOUR CONTINGENCY? YES.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE WORK ON CROW ROAD IN, UH, JOHN WAYNE, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT MOVES THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH TEXAS BIT FOR JOHN WAYNE ROAD AND FOR CROWELL ROAD.

IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES SPRAYED ON AGAIN,

[15. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of County owned assets.]

WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS JUST A FEW ITEMS THAT, UM, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WE'D LIKE TO DONATE TO THE CITY OF ROSSER MAY BANK AND COUNT.

WE HAVE SOME, UH, EXTRA RADIOS AND ALSO LOT BARS FROM EQUIPMENT THAT HAS BEEN AUCTIONED QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM 15? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

JUDGE.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER KATE'S UH, TO APPROVE THOSE TRANSFERS AND DISPOSAL ITEMS. IS THERE A SECOND? SO AGAIN, SEGMENT COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE PO'S KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM 16.

[16. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider amending the Kaufman County Declaration of Local Disaster.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER AMENDING THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DECLARATION OF A LOCAL DISASTER.

UH, WE MIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

UH, STEVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND, OR REBECCA, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD W WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS TIME AROUND IS TO TAKE OUT ANY DEADLINE ON IT.

I MEAN, END DATE AND JUST LEAVE THE DECLARATION OPEN-ENDED AND IT CAN BE RESCINDED AT ANY TIME.

THIS SITE, THIS WILL SAY THE COURT FROM HAVING TO COME BACK MONTH AFTER MONTH, TRYING TO REDO IT.

AND IT CAN, IT CAN BE EITHER DONE.

ONE OF TWO WAYS THE JUDGE CAN RESCIND IT HIMSELF, OR IF HE SO DESIRES WITH, IN CONCERT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU ALL CAN COME TOGETHER AS A BODY AND, AND, UH, RESCINDED.

IT'S JUST GOING TO SAVE SOME TIME ON Y'ALLS PART.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT ANYTHING.

UH, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, UH, 2015, TWICE, UH, WHEN, UH, JUDGE WOOD ISSUED A DISASTER DECLARATION, AND IT WAS, UH, EXTENDED BY THE COURT LEFT OPEN-ENDED FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS, AND THEN IT WAS RESCINDED.

SO I DON'T SAY THIS ENDEMIC OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SAYING I FIGURED PROBABLY AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER IS WHEN THE GOVERNOR WILL PROBABLY DROP HIS.

I'M JUST GUESSING YOU CALL IT A SWAG.

UH, RUMOR IS WHAT I'M THINKING.

IT CAN BE REMEMBER A RUMOR.

IT MAY BE WISHFUL THINKING ON MY PART, BUT I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EXPEDIENT FOR THE COURT TO DO IT THIS WAY.

WE'D HAVE THE PRECEDENT.

AND IN LESS, REBECCA SAW A DIFFERENT IN THE, IN THE STATUTES IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE STATUTES TO DO IT THIS WAY.

UM, SO WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DOING IT IS THIS IS A FUNDING.

IF WE, IF WE STOP IT, WE COULD LOSE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE.

I CANNOT FIND ANYTHING AT THIS POINT TO MAKE THAT, UH, A GUARANTEE, BUT I, I THINK IT WOULD BE IN OUR INTEREST TO KEEP IT GOING IT'S IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING.

AND IT KEEPS THAT DOOR OPEN TO FUNDING FROM FEMA AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS LONG AS THIS THING GOES ON, UH, BY HAVING THE DECORATIONS IN PLACE AND WITH THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUNDS, WE'VE GOT 8.6, WELL, OVER EIGHT POINT $6 MILLION ACCESS TO COVER OUR COST.

AND IN WORKING THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC.

SO,

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UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE US KEEP GOING AND, AND, UH, BECAUSE HAVING THIS IN PLACE DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING.

AND THAT WAY, IF THERE'S FUNDS OUT THERE, WE CAN ACCESS THEM AND MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON OUR, OUR BUDGETS, BECAUSE WITH EVERYTHING BEING SHUT DOWN, IT WILL IMPACT OUR BUDGET AND THIS COMPANY, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STEVE, WHAT SORT OF FUNDING, HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT SO FAR? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONE.

WELL, IMAGINE THE LARGEST DOLLAR MASS GOING TO BE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH ALL THE INMATES AND STUFF, PROTECTING THEM.

I WOULD THINK I KNOW MASKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

NOW, A LOT OF THEM WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET AT NO COST THROUGH THE STATE, BUT THAT DOOR IS CLOSING.

SO WE NEED TO PICK IT UP AND PURCHASE OUR OWN, UH, UH, NO HAND SANITIZERS.

UH, THE CLEANING OF OUR FACILITIES IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL EXPENSE WITH THE COURTS OPENING.

THAT'S GOING TO GO UP WELL, AND WE WERE, WERE ORDERED FROM, BY THE STATE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OCA OR THE SUPREME COURT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH THE OFFICE OF THE REGULATES COURTS, UM, WE'RE MANDATED.

LIKE WE HAVE TO CLEAN THE COURTROOM AFTER ANY, WE HAVE TO CLEAN A COURTROOM.

I MEAN, LAUGHTER ANY HEARING IN BETWEEN ANY ANYBODY ELSE COMING IN THAT ROOM? THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS IN THAT.

UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE TO RESPOND TO THAT, CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THAT.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS USING A CONTRACTOR, A JANITORIAL SERVICE TO STATION ONE PERSON AT EACH OF OUR SUB COURTHOUSES.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FULL TIME JOB FOR THEM TO BE CLEANING IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE COURT NECESSARILY EVERY DAY.

BUT THAT PERSON, AS LONG AS THIS IS, AS LONG AS THIS CONTRACT IS IN PLACE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING, FOR CLEANING AND PICKING UP THE SWEEPING UP AROUND THE BUILDING AND JUST BE STATIONED AT THAT BUILDING ALL DAY LONG.

UH, AND THAT IS THAT THAT'S MONEY IS THAT IS, THAT IS FUNDED, UH, THROUGH ONE OF THESE COVID PROGRAMS. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAND IT TO YOU.

IT'D BE PERSONABLE.

IT'S REIMBURSABLE.

IT'S NOT FUNDED.

IT'S ACTUALLY RINGING ACE.

ACTUALLY WE GOT 20% OF THAT UPFRONT, WHICH IS 750 750,000 OR THEREABOUTS.

YEAH, WE GOT $750,000.

WE HAVE TO, WE PROVIDE, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR, AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE WHAT WE'VE DONE, BUT WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT MONEY.

SO, BUT THEN, THEN THERE'S 3.8 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY TOTAL.

SO ANOTHER 3.1 MILLION, WHICH FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING ALL THESE SNEEZE GUARDS AND WE'RE DOING ALL THAT STUFF, WHICH IS PRETTY ELABORATE PROCESS.

AND I KNOW THAT WE BORROWED A LOT OF COMPUTERS FROM VOTING TO DO THE TELEWORK WITH THIS WILL COVER US PURCHASING COMPUTERS SO THAT THEY CAN BE GIVEN BACK FOR THE ELECTION FOLKS.

AND WE'LL HAVE THEM ON HAND, UH, FOR TELEWORK.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IS GETTING READY TO START PULLING.

YEAH, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO PULL THOSE THINGS BACK IN.

CAUSE THEY GOT TO DO A LOT OF PROGRAMMING AND TESTING AND STUFF.

SO THEY'RE GONNA, UH, THEY'RE GONNA, EVERYBODY'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THOSE FOR THEIR WORK AT HOME THING ARE GOING TO LOSE THEM.

SO, SO THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANTAGES TO IT.

UM, IT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO CONTINUE THE DISASTER DECLARATION.

UH, AT LEAST AS LONG AS THE GOVERNOR DOES.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

WE'D SYNC UP WITH THE GOVERNOR AND ALSO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HR POLICY THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE TO GO IN LINE WITH THE FEDERAL REGS, THOSE RIGHTS ARE THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.

UM, SO ANYONE WHO'S GOING OUT ON COBIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL BEING TRACKED THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.

THAT'S BEEN NICE.

SO LET ME, WE'VE SET UP A SPECIAL LINE ITEM THAT HAS NO BUDGET TOO MANY YET.

CAUSE I HAVEN'T BROUGHT BACK TO THE COURT THAT WE ARE CHARGING ALL THE CODE TO THIS ONE LINE ITEM.

SO WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR IT, EASIER TO PULL THE RECORDS, TO SEND TO THEM.

WE'LL HAVE IT READY.

YOU'LL HAVE IT READY.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

WELL, WE'VE GOT 750,000, RIGHT? THAT'S IN THE REVENUE SIDE, THE TREASURER WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT NOT ALL.

WELL, I THINK WE HAVE IT SEE THAT MONEY.

WE WERE, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET IT RIGHT AWAY.

IT USUALLY TAKES A COUPLE OF THREE WEEKS FOR IT TO COME IN ONCE THE, THEY RECEIVED THE DOCUMENTS.

UH, AND I THINK THAT WAS DONE AT THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT HERE, THEY SHOULD BE HERE ANYTIME

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CAUSE I HAVEN'T CONTACTED HIM.

SO OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU STEVE.

SO WHAT'S BEFORE US IS TO CONSENT DISCUSS, CONSIDER AMENDING THE COFFIN COUNTY DECLARATION OF A LOCAL DISASTER.

UH, YOU GOT THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU AND THIS WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE AND THAT WAS STEVE'S SUGGESTION YESTERDAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT STEVE AND REBECCA, UH, SAW NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

A WE JUST LEAVE IT IN PLACE UNTIL IT'S RESCINDED RATHER THAN HAVE TO COME BACK AND RENEW IT.

WHEN JUDGE, WHEN DOES THE CURRENT DISASTER DECLARATION ORDER EXPIRE WEALTH, JUNE THE 12TH AND ANNE, I APPRECIATE REBECCA PICKING UP ON THESE THINGS TOO BECAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD LET THOSE DATES SLIP.

SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, UH, REGARDING, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE CONTRACTING OF CLEANING SERVICES THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED, WHICH, UH, SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST COSTS THAT THE COUNTY WILL INCUR OR HAS YET TO INCUR.

AND IT, AND PERHAPS THIS WOULD ALSO APPLY TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, IF WE LET THAT CONTRACT BEFORE THIS, BEFORE THE 12TH, IS THAT NOT IN THAT CONTRACT IS SAY A 90 DAY CONTRACT OR A SIX MONTH CONTRACT.

IS THAT NOT REIMBURSABLE FROM THAT MOMENT THAT THE, UM, THAT THE CONTRACT IS FORMALIZED.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE LET THAT CONTRACT NOW FOR, SHALL WE SAY SIX MONTHS, WOULD THAT CONTRACT NOT BE REIMBURSABLE FROM THE MOMENT WE SIGNED THE PAPER? I DON'T, I THINK IT SAYS YOU CAN EXPEND THE FUNDS.

I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO READ JUST BECAUSE YOU STARTED SOMETHING ON JUNE THE 10TH, IF YOU'RE, UH, IF YOUR DISASTER DECORATION ISN'T ENFORCED, I THINK YOU PUT THAT MONEY AT RISK MAYBE LATER.

OKAY.

WELL, I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WELL, I'M NOT SURE READER, BUT, UH, I, I WOULD SAY THIS IS A SAFER PATH ANYWAY, AS FAR AS BEING REIMBURSED FOR THOSE FUNDS.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OR NOT SURE WHAT TO, I JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT THINGS.

I RE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY OPINIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT AND THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE NATURE OF THIS ENTIRE PANDEMIC.

BUT I IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, NUMBER ONE.

UM, WE, WE HAVE SEEN THAT THE CURVE, IF YOU WILL, HAS FLATTENED SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, HAS NOT, HAS NOT FOLLOWED INITIAL PROJECTIONS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WERE DONE OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

UH, INITIALLY SECOND, UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IT HAS BEEN WIDELY REPORTED NOW THAT, UM, THAT FIRST ASYMPTOMATIC TRANSMISSION AT COVID-19 IS A AGAIN, OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION WAS, UH, OF, UH, ORIGINALLY TOUTED.

BUT NOW IT HAS BEEN SHOWN THAT ASYMPTOMATIC TRANSMISSION IS, IS A VERY, VERY MINIMAL.

AND LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK IT WAS WIDELY REPORTED THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME SERIOUS FLAWS IN OUR, EVEN ON OUR TESTING IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT, UH, ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL LABORATORIES HAS NOW BEEN DETERMINED TO HAVE A MYRIAD OF FALSE POSITIVES.

SO THE REALITY IS I THINK THAT WE REALLY, UH, UM, HAVE REACHED A POINT WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO RELY ON INFORMATION THAT, UH, THAT, THAT IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AT LEAST THROUGH OPEN SOURCE, UM, REPORTING AND THE LESS THE HEALTH OFFICER HAS SOME INFORMATION THAT HE HASN'T SHARED WITH THE COURT.

UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT AT SOME POINT, UH, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY AND TODAY THAT, THAT BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY THAT THE NATION ENTERED INTO RECESSION, AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO MAKE A LEADERSHIP DECISION TO, TO END THIS, UH, THE, THE CURE CANNOT BE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.

SO, UM, I FIND IT, I, I RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, PERHAPS THERE MIGHT BE SOME FUNDING AT RISK, BUT, UH, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WE'VE EITHER SPENT, OR WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT A, AN OPEN-ENDED DISASTER DECLARATION IS IN ITS BEST IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COUNTY.

FRANKLY, I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC, A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, HAVE WELCOMED THE PARTIAL REOPENINGS OF THE TAX OFFICES.

UH, PEOPLE ARE LINED UP EVERY DAY TRYING TO DO THEIR, THEIR PUBLIC BUSINESS AND MY SUB COURTHOUSE.

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UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY CONDUCIVE TO VIRUS TRANSMISSION EITHER.

UM, SO I REALLY JUST, I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME TO MAKE A DECISION TO JUST END THIS FOR THE COUNTY AND MAYBE BE AN EXAMPLE FOR SOME OTHERS, UH, TO ALSO DO SOME GENUINE, UH, SOUL SEARCHING ABOUT THIS.

SO, UH, I REALLY, UH, I REALLY CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SUPPORT A CONTINUATION AND PARTICULARLY AN OPEN ENDED CONTINUATION OF A DISASTER.

HOW ABOUT IF YOU, UH, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT IT AS THIS? YOU COULD JUST, UH, PUT THE, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR EVERY MEETING AND WE COULD RECONSIDER EVERY TIME? WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WERE GOING TO MEET ANYWAY.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUGE BURDEN ON US, BUT, UH, UM, I THINK AT SOME POINT WE JUST HAVE TO PULL THE TRIGGER.

LIKE WHEN IS IT OVER, YOU KNOW, WHEN IS THIS GOING TO BE OVER? AND, UH, WHEN OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO RETURN TO WORK, AS OPPOSED TO GOING OUT AND BUYING NEW COMPUTERS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN STAY HOME AND WORK.

UM, UH, FRANKLY I THINK OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE HAS FALLEN OFF BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO, UM, I REALLY THINK THAT THIS, UM, THAT THIS, UH, INITIAL CONCERN, WHICH I, UH, UH, FELT WAS VALID OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND A LACK OF INFORMATION THAT IT SIMPLY HASN'T BORNE ITSELF OUT.

AND I THINK AT SOME POINT WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT IT'S TIME TO END THIS AND, AND RETURN TO NORMALCY.

UH, I, I THINK THE GOVERNOR SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.

IT'S TIME FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO REOPEN, UH, FOR RESTAURANTS TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEEDED REVENUE STREAMS. SO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THIS CLEAN, OR JUST SOME OF THE INSTRUCTIONS COMING DOWN, IS IT THE, IS IT OCA? THE INSTRUCTIONS CAME DOWN TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE SITS DOWN WITH ALL OF THE JUDGES IN THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO SIT DOWN WITH ALL THE JUDGES IN THE COUNTY AND REVIEW THE RULES THAT THE OATH THAT THE OCA HAS SENT DOWN AND HE SIGNED AN ORDER IMPLEMENTING THESE RULES AND IT INCLUDED THIS CLEANING THING.

AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE SO MANY THINGS WE'RE, UH, WE'RE SORT OF SUBJECT TO WHAT THE, WHAT THE GOVERNING POWERS ABOVE US ORDER AND NOT YOU, UNLESS YOU HAD AN ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE THAT WANTED TO BUCK THAT SYSTEM, BUT I THINK THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.

WELL, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE COURTS, YOU KNOW, OPERATE, THEY, THEY ISSUE THEIR UNDER THEIR OWN AUTHORITY, BUT, BUT, UH, IT SEEMS, UH, IT SEEMS VERY LIKELY TO ME THAT, UH, IF THE PURCHASING AGENT ISSUES A CONTRACT FOR AS AN EXAMPLE FOR $5,000 FOR CLEANING FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, AND SHE DOES THAT TOMORROW, THAT THAT MONEY IS SPENT AND WOULD BE REIMBURSABLE WHETHER THE DISASTER ORDER ENDED ON THE 12TH OR NOT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY SPENT THAT MONEY.

I HAVE SOMETHING I THINK MAY HELP YOU, UH, YOU CAN OPEN EVERYTHING UP, TAKE THAT PART OUT OF IT AND STILL HAVE THE DECLARATION IN PLACE.

WE CAN GO BACK TO NORMAL AND STILL HAVE IT DECORATION THERE.

IF, IF IT WILL HELP US, YOU KNOW, GARNER THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S PUTTING OUT, WE JUST DISASSOCIATE THE OPENINGS AND ALL THE STUFF WE'VE BEEN DOING FROM THAT DISASTER DECLARATION AND JUST MAKE IT A STANDARD DISASTER DECLARATION, IF THAT WOULD HELP.

OKAY.

I'M KINDA, I'M KINDA CURIOUS THOUGH, WHAT PART, WHAT, WHAT PART OF OUR COUNTY, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPEN.

WHAT'S NOT OPEN RIGHT NOW.

WELL, YOU'VE GOT RESTAURANTS THAT ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE, I THINK EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, OUR GOVERNMENT, OUR GOVERNMENT.

HMM.

I THINK SOME OF THE CLERKS FUNCTIONS ARE NOT, UH, FULLY RESTORED.

NO, UH, I THINK HR DOES TELECOMMUTING, NOT AS A, NO, THEY'RE ALL BACK.

I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR ONE WINDOW ON THE TAX OFFICE, RIGHT.

UH, BECAUSE IT KIND OF CRAMMED THEM TOGETHER.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED BRENDA LEE ONE OUT TO SEPARATE THEM WAS OFF.

OTHER THAN THAT.

WELL, I KNOW DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES UNDER THE PUBLIC DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT TIME FOR THEM TO OPEN SPACE, BASICALLY

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AND I THINK THEY PROBABLY TAKE, I THINK THEY TAKE PHONE CALLS AND LET PEOPLE IN, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO JUST REGULATE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THERE.

CAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY SMALL SPACE, OR I KNOW YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK INTO MY BANK, YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE DRIVE WOMEN OR CALL AND GET AN APPOINTMENT AND GO IN THERE.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING TO BREATH.

WE HAVE THAT, OR IT'S CLOSED DOWN.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW FROM MYSELF EXACTLY WHAT IS CLOSED AND THE HALLOWELL.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

YOU CAN'T WALK INTO THE COURTHOUSE WITHOUT YOUR TEMPERATURE BEING TAKEN WATER BURGER AND THAT STUFF AND 40 HIS CLOTHES, CHICK-FIL-A YOU? NO, I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE CORONAS RELIEF FUND, WHICH WAS THE INITIAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, Y'ALL APPROVED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, UM, IN THEIR DOCUMENT.

THEY SAY THAT IT'S JUST THE EXPENSES INCURRED BETWEEN MARCH 1ST, 2020 IN THIS WILL END DECEMBER 30TH, 2020.

SO IT KIND OF GOES IN LINE WITH WHAT MARY WAS SAYING ON THE HR SIDE IS THAT THEY, THEY GIVE A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THE FUNDING IN THAT DOCUMENT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD LIKE Y'ALL KNOW.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF MY QUESTION, FOR INSTANCE, THE CLEANING CONTRACT FOR THE COURTS.

IF WE, IF, IF YOU LET THAT CONTRACT TODAY, WHEN, WHEN OR WHEN, WHEN ARE THOSE, THOSE FUNDS ARE OBLIGATED AND CORRECT AUDITOR FOR IT.

YES, SIR.

SO WE WILL HAVE SPENT THAT MONEY TODAY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY HE DID THAT.

IT'S A, IT'S A PAY AS YOU GO RIGHT.

A MONTH, A MONTH HOURLY, WE HAVE A SET HOURLY RATE OR HIM, UH, HE'S, IT'S COMING OUT OF HIS BUDGET.

IT'S COMING OUT OF THAT ONE ITEM.

SO WHEN HE'S COMING OUT OF THE COVID COVID LINE ITEM, OKAY.

AND MONEY, I MEAN, IN WHAT WE COULD DO, IF YOU WANT, I CAN GET WITH BOBBY AND WE COULD DO A 90 DAY CONTRACT AND THEN REVISIT IT AT 90 DAYS TO GET YOU A SET DATE.

BUT AT THAT TIME, IF YOU NEED THEM FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF NOT HAVING THE DECLARATION ON IT.

I THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THE TREND IS GONNA CONTINUE.

AND IT'S VERY LIKELY, THIS IS MY SPECULATION THAT WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS THAT THE GOVERNOR, AND OF COURSE THE OCA IS GOING TO WORK IN SYNC WITH THEM THAT THEY MAY VERY WELL PULL ALL OF THIS STUFF OUT.

SO I WOULD HATE TO ENTER A 90 DAY CONTRACT.

AND THEN, CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WON'T CONTINUE DOING THIS IF WE'RE NOT UNDER ORDERS TO DO OR TO DO IT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT, A PROVISION THAT SAYS WITHIN WITH THE 10 DAY NOTICE THAT THE CONTRACT IS TERMINATED TERMINATION.

I JUST THINK IF THEY'LL HIT THE CONTRACTOR, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S IT THEY'LL DO IT.

YEAH.

IT JUST, AT SOME POINT AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO, I MEAN, NUMBER ONE, NONE OF THIS MONEY IS FREE.

NO, IT'S NOT, WE'RE ALL GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

RIGHT.

WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR IT AS MONEY.

SO IT'S NOT FREE MONEY.

UH, AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE CONTINUING TO TRY TO PURSUE FREE MONEY IF WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE SHOULD LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

SO AT SOME POINT I JUST THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO END AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT MAKING AN OPEN ENDED ORDER IS, UH, IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

SO JUST, UH, I JUST, I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT AN OPEN-ENDED DECLARATION, PUT IT ON THERE TO PUT IT ON.

WOULD YOU LOCK BE IN THIS AND PUT AN END DATE ON IT? WELL, I'D LIKE THIS OPTION THAT, UH, THAT THE EOC REFERRED TO THAT, UH, THAT WE MAKE THIS JUST A STANDARD EMERGENCY DECLARATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THESE RESTRICTIONS REGARDING OPERATIONS.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT.

UH, WE, WE CAN'T BE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE PAIRED TO DO THAT TODAY, BUT WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND REPLACE THIS ONE WITH SOMETHING DOESN'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON IT.

SO YOUR CURRENT DECLARATION DOES NOT ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THOSE RESTRICTIONS.

UM, THE RESTRICTIONS COME IN THE SEPARATE ORDER FOR ACCESS TO KAUFMAN COUNTY BUILDINGS.

AND THAT'S YOUR NEXT LINE ITEM? SO TODAY THE COURT, IF THEY WANTED TO, COULD DECIDE THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO PURSUE ANY MORE BUILDING ACCESS RESTRICTIONS, UM, THINGS UP.

YEAH.

SO, AND I THINK MOST OF THE CONVERSATION PROBABLY IS CENTERED AROUND THE NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU, REBECCA.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

NO, THERE, THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS IN THIS.

THIS IS JUST ESTABLISHES.

IT IS A DECLARATION OF DISASTER DECLARATION.

THAT'S IT? THE ONLY PERSONALIZATION THAT YOU GUYS MADE WAS THE DAILY REPORTING THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM STEVE'S OFFICE.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THAT SHOULD CONTINUE OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, THEN I WOULD, UH, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST SHOWS THAT WE, THAT WE, UH, THAT WE ADJUST THIS TO NOT BE OPEN-ENDED AND TO ACTUALLY RESET IT