* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Call to Order] [00:00:05] THIS EMERGENCY MEETING OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED THE ORDER. UH, 2:00 PM WERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, OR I'M SORRY, BOBBY, ARE YOU READY? OKAY. WE'RE ON THE SECOND FLOOR CONFERENCE MEETING ROOM. UH, OUR MISSION SCORE IS BEING TAKEN OUT, [2. Discuss/Consider necessary action for the Health and Safety of the Public due to COVID-19.] UH, DUE TO THE ONGOING COVID-19 CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING IS NECESSARY. UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH, UH, WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THIS MORNING. UH, I THINK REALLY WHAT KICKED THIS WHOLE THING OFF WAS THE SITUATION IN THE COURTHOUSE LAST WEEK. UM, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'VE HAD POSITIVE CASES IN THE COURTHOUSE, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVE TOTALLY SOLVED THAT YET. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PERMANENT COURTHOUSE ARE EXTREMELY NERVOUS ABOUT SITUATION, BASICALLY. SO WE JUST FELT LIKE THE THING TO DO WAS TO CLOSE THE COURTHOUSE ON FRIDAY, SHERIFF VOLUNTEER TO COME IN. HE HAS A PROCESS. IF THEY'VE BEEN USING THE JAIL STAIRWELLS AS ALL THE SERVICES, HE DIDN'T APPLE. AND I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO GET TOGETHER AS A COMMISSIONER REPORT, REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT OUR FACILITIES IN THE COUNTY. ALL OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DIALOGUE ABOUT WEARING MASKS. EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT INCREASING NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH TEXAS. SO WE HAVE TWO ORDERS WE'VE DISCUSSED. ONE OF THEM HAS COMMUNITY COUNTY PROPERTIES, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. AND I THINK THAT'S OUR LET'S START WITH PROPERTY, WHICH IS A SHORTER VERSE. NOT JUST SOME DEMOGRAPHIC ACTUALLY I'LL LEAVE OUT ALL THE WHEREAS IS BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL KIND OF ALL KNOW WHERE AS IT IS. AND IT SAYS DOWN THERE OR BE AT WORK BY THE COMMISSION SUPPORT ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES WITH LESS THAN SIX FEET APART FROM OTHER PERSONS SHOW WHERE FACE MASS WITHIN BUILDINGS SPREAD ALL VISITORS TO COFFEE COUNTY BUILDINGS IN LESS THAN SIX PEOPLE, OTHER PERSON TO SHOW WHERE FACEMASK SPREAD ALL COMP AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES WERE APPLICABLE, OR SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GOVERNED BY OTHER AUTHORITIES PORCH SHALL PRACTICE SOCIAL EFFICIENCY WITH BUILDINGS. ALL VISITORS SHOULD CALL THE COUNTY BUILDINGS SHALL PRACTICE THIS WORK WITH THE EFFECTIVE SEVEN 30 ON JUNE 30TH, TAIL TERMINATED. SO LET'S START THAT WITH THE DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE SPIKE AND OUR HOSPITALIZATIONS. I DON'T KNOW. WE JUST GOT THE LATEST DEAL FROM DSHS AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ALL DAY AND JUMBLED UP TRYING TO SORT THROUGH IT. I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY NUMBERS. I HOPE TO HAVE YOU A REPORT BY THE END OF THE DAY, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT A HUNDRED. WELL, I LOOKED RIGHT BEFORE I GOT HERE AND IT SHOWED THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER IS FIVE 18 AND THE BEST FROM DAY ONE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE DOING, BUT THEY WANT, UH, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A CURRENT NUMBER IS NOT ACUTE OR IS THAT A CURRENT ACTIVE LOCATION? WELL, WHAT I DO IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES FROM DAY ONE. AND THEN I FIGURE IN WHAT THEY SEND ME AS FAR AS THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RESUMED RECOVER. AND THEN I SUBTRACT THAT TO GET THE ACTIVE PATIENTS AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THEM AND FINISHED IT FOR HER. WELL, BEFORE THEY STOPPED, WE WERE UP TO ABOUT, UH, 67, 70 ACTIVE CASES. NUMBER FIVE. HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU COVER THAT? [00:05:01] NO, THE NUMBERS COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU TAKE OFF? IT ALL COMES FROM THEM. I MEAN, THEY SEND ME THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES. THEY HAVE A COLUMN WHERE THEY SHOW THE ONE RECOVERY. SO PUT THOSE IN THERE, SUBTRACT THEM. AND THAT GIVES A SECOND WHERE YOUR NUMBER, OKAY. YOU WEREN'T, YOU WEREN'T DOING NO PELVIS, NO SOMEBODY ELSE. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM. I KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK STEVE WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT I JUST TALKED TO THEM. ONE OF THE SECOND GUY, DAC DSHS TODAY CALLED TO TELL ME THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO START 40 BEGINNING. AND Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT THAT WHOLE SCENARIO. UH, HE TOLD ME THAT THEY REALIZED THAT YOUR NUMBERS HAVE NOT BEEN ACCURATE. WHAT YOU SAID, YOU WERE A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT. A LOT OF REASONS FOR THE MISTAKES, BUT WHEN HE SAYS LORD AND ALL THAT, HE SAYS THEY FIX THAT. I THINK MY OBSERVATION IS THE ONLY NUMBER THAT REALLY MEANS ANYTHING VERSUS THAT AREA IS HOSPITALIZATION. YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY SOLID ALLOWABLE NUMBER. THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT I TRUST. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? TO ME? YOU KNOW WHAT PRETTY MUCH WHAT OUR HOSPITAL MEMBERS ARE, WHAT WE NEED. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT A KAUFMAN COUNTY NUMBER, THAT'S IT NUMBER AGAINST IT, BUT WE DON'T, SINCE MOST OF OUR PEOPLE, I WOULD ASSUME WERE BEING HOSPITALIZED DOWN'S COUNTY. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE HOSPITALS ARE. YEAH. AS FAR AS THE HR KAUFFMAN, THEY SAID THEIR NUMBERS ARE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY'VE STILL GOT PLENTY OF SPACE IN BOTH REGULAR BEDS. AND I SEE YOU AND THEY STOPPED REPORTING BECAUSE THEIR NUMBERS HAD DROPPED WHERE THEY ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF PATIENTS IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT THEY SAID REACHES STARTS COMING UP AGAIN. THEY'LL START BEATING US ENOUGH. OKAY. SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND COUNTY FACILITIES, WHAT'S THE NUMBERS, WHAT'S THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION, BUT LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT RELATED AROUND. I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 10 CONFIRMED CASES IN THE COUNTY. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONFIRMED CASES IN THE COUNTY UP UNTIL ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. AND, UH, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 10 CASES CONFIRMED AS, AS ACTIVE OR AS ANTIBODIES OR AFFIRM. I BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE ALL BEEN SWAPPED, TESTED ONE OF THE SWAMP AREAS SWAP THIS OUT. BUT IN ALL OF THOSE, I THINK ALL OF THOSE, EXCEPT ONE ARE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE THING. WE DO HAVE A PERSON THAT ANNEX THAT HAS BEEN EXPOSED, A PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD WAS CASSIE POSITIVE. SO THAT PERSON IS GOING TO TWO HOUSEHOLDING. ONE'S A GIRLFRIEND TWO. WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE CORNY. YEAH. ONE LIVES IN THE HOUSE. HOLD ON ONE SEC, GIRLFRIEND THAT WORKS DOWNSTAIRS. IT'S NOT JUST HERE. SO I DIDN'T HEAR, THIS IS NOT A BUILDING TOO. RIGHT. WELL, THEN YOU'RE BILLING. IT THEY'VE BEEN BURNED YET. THEY'VE ALL BEEN TESTED. I DON'T THINK JUST ACTUALLY LIVING BRIAN. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT WAS THE SITUATION SHE'S LIKE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO, I MEAN, SO WE MIGHT BE, WE KNOW THAT HE TESTED POSITIVE OR WE KNOW HE WAS INTENTIONALLY EXPOSED SPOUSE TESTED POSITIVE. SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE KIDS ON THE SITE THAT HE DID NOT CONFIRM. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YEAH. AND THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, WE HAD THAT SAME SITUATION IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CREW. I HAD, I HAD AN EMPLOYEE WHO CARRIED TO CONFIRM POSITIVES RELATIVE TO THE HOSPITAL AND WAS TESTED AND NOT UNDERSTANDING, NOT BEING CLOSE TO SOMEBODY AND LIVING. THEY LIVE TOGETHER. THIS FAMILY LIVED TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT. IF I COULD BRING IT BACK THERE. WELL, PART WITH THE COUNTY FACILITY, THIS PARTICULAR ORDER, UH, [00:10:02] WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES. UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PLACES IN OUR BUILDINGS. I USED THIS ANNEX AS AN EXAMPLE, PEOPLE, MOST PEOPLE COME IN WITH THE ANNEX BACK, BUT YOU CAN'T STAY SIX FEET AWAY FROM ME BECAUSE THAT PAULA'S NARROW. AND THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE THAT I THINK THE SAME SITUATION COMING INTO THE COURTHOUSE, CAN'T MAIN 60 AWAY COME INTO THE FRONT COURTHOUSE BECAUSE YOU GO THROUGH SECURITY AND THERE'S A LOT OF TIME PEOPLE STACK THEM. THOSE ARE THE AREAS. AND THEN IN THE HALLS TO HALLS BATHROOMS, HI. I THINK YOU'RE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THINK WE SHOULD WRAP DIRECTION. IT'S A PAIN IN THE BUTT TO WHERE THEY CAN'T AUDIT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT BOTTOM LINE, WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A RAKE. I MEAN, DRIVING THROUGH INTERSECTIONS EVERY TIME WE FEEL LOUD, YOU DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S GOING TO HIT YOU OR THEY DON'T. AND THEN IF THEY DO GET YOU, YOU GET ON MY FEET. SO I MEAN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US ABOUT REACT DIFFERENTLY FOR THE MOST PART TO THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF US HAVE SYMPTOMS AND ARE ASYMPTOMATIC. IF YOU'RE POSITIVE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM, AS IT PROGRESSED IS THAT IT'S A BAD THING FOR THEM. NOW, WE HAVEN'T LOST WHAT FIVE PEOPLE IN COFFEE COUNTY, MAN, WHICH IS GREAT OR WHATEVER. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS GREAT THAT THIS HAPPENED PEOPLE EVERYWHERE ELSE. I DON'T, WE'RE ASKING A LOT FOR THEM TO COME WITH ABSOLUTE RESPECT. PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS, BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING CAN COURTHOUSE. YOU'RE BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE DEAL WITH EVERYBODY, ALL WALKS OF LIFE EVERY DAY, DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ASKING TOO MUCH FOR A FEW MINUTES, WALK UP. THIS IS TERRIBLE. I MEAN, WE DID THE FACILITIES WALK THROUGH DOWN THE SOUTH CAMPUS. ALL I WANT TO DO IS RUN OUTSIDE AND TRY AND GET SOME FRESH AIR. WE WERE ALL WEARING FANCY CLOTHES. IT'S TERRIBLE. THERE'S, THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. WE'RE JUST ASKING PEOPLE TO BE RESPECTFUL TO OBVIOUSLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN THEIR OFFICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S TOUGH. IT'S TOUGH. I'M ABROAD IN IRAQ. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOOT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL. IT'S JUST KIND OF GET IN PERSON AND ARE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, KIND, KINDA HARD TO DO ELSE. HONESTLY. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WHERE ON THE SOUTH COAST CAUTION TO BE DONE, YOU'RE ASKING EVERYBODY ELSE INTERFERE WITH THREE MODIFICATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS. WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT SCIENCE ON MASKS IS THE BAGEL, PARTICULARLY THE PENS ON THE MASTER, WHERE, BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH PERMISSION TO FORWARD THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INERTIA. AND THEN IT'S PROBABLY ALWAYS WISE TO ERR, ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, [00:15:01] PARTICULARLY IN THE RELATIVELY LIMITED TRANSACTIONS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE, THAT IS GOING TO, THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THIS TALKS ABOUT, UH, OH, VISITORS AS WELL AS EMPLOYEES. SO I THINK THERE DOES HAVE TO BE EVEN THE CDC AND WHO WEBSITES ALL TALK ABOUT. THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE AT THAT PATIENTS AND MITIGATIONS COULD BE PERMISSIBLE. I CAN GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO BRAD, THE SAMPLES THAT, I MEAN, I'LL USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION ON THAT. MEDICATIONS, THE LIGHTS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE CLERKS IN THE TAX OFFICE, I WOULD ARGUE ARE SIX FEET AWAY FROM YOUR CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL SITTING BEHIND A SPRING. SO IT'S ABOVE HIGH. THAT WOULD BE FINE. SO I DON'T, I THINK THEY'RE PROTECTED. SIX FEET ARE EVEN IF YOU SPEAK LIKE THIS. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE ARE HERE. GET BACK. YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO DO THAT. YOU'RE TRAPPED IN A CHAIR. YOU DON'T HAVE A TOY. YOU MAKE IT A RULE. , THAT'S ALL I'M THINKING. MAYBE THERE WAS GIRLS IN OUR TAX OFFICE THEY'VE BEEN WEARING FOR LAST SALE, BUT THEY'RE ALL THERE. THEY ASK ALL THREE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, VERY GOOD. AND WE HAVE . WE ARE PROVIDING MY OPINION A LOT OF WELL, I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, BACK TO FEASIBILITY AND ADAPTATIONS. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE CDC LIST OF, OF RECOMMENDED MODIFICATIONS. AND I, I'M NOT SURE IF IN, IN READING THIS DRAFT ORDER, IF, IF FEASIBILITY AND ADAPTATIONS ARE PERMISSIBLE, BUT, UH, I THINK MR. SAYS WHERE THAT GIVES YOU THAT KIND OF WORK OF POLITICAL PRACTICE. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T NEED A MASK. IF YOU'RE WORKING OUTSIDE AND YOUR GROUP CAN WORK OUTSIDE OF OPEN AIR, THEN I'M SAYING FIVE, I NOTE 6:00 PM AND YOU'RE NOT MEASURE. THEN YOU ARE BEING HIT APPLICABLE IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT TASK. WELL, NO, I GOT YOU. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE CDC DOESN'T RECOMMEND CHILDREN UNDER TO WEAR A MASK. SO IF A, IF A PARENT HAS TO COME TO THE TAX OFFICE AND THEY BRING THEIR SMALL CHILD, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, AN ADAPTATION THAT YOU KNOW IS RECOMMENDED, BUT I'M NOT SURE. WELL, IN THE, IN THE COUNTY WHERE AND CARE MATT CAN SPEAK TO THAT. WE DIDN'T PUT AN AGE LIMIT ON THERE IN THIS, IN THIS WHERE RIGHT HERE. SO THAT WOULD BE PARENT'S DISCRETION. IF IT'S, SOMETHING'S NOT STATED, THEN IT'S NOT LIMITED UNLESS I'M GETTING THE HORSE. WELL, IT SHOWS ALL THE VISITORS, OH, COPE AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE DISCUSSED THAT 10 YEAR OLD THING. YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU TOLD ME, THAT ORDER FOR THE 10 YEAR OLD THING, WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE 10 YEAR OLD, UNDER 10 YEAR OLD. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE GOVERNOR DID THAT. AND THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT, OR THAT THEY USED THE LANGUAGE UNDER 10. I JUST SAID FOR A RESPONSIBILITY, FOR CASES, YOU KNOW, JUVENILES ARE YOUR JUVENILE UNDER THE LAW FOR CONDUCT 10 TO 16. SO MAYBE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH 10. SO THAT'S NOT IN OUR ORDER. WE COULD MODIFY THAT. WE COULD SAY [00:20:01] ALL VISITORS OVERNIGHT OVER THE AGE OF 10. THAT'S WHY HE WAS ASKING ME, WHY DID WE SAY 10? SHE SAYS TWO, NO TWO IS THE BILL. PUT A MASK ON SOMEONE UNDER ANYONE OVER 10. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT COMMISSIONER SAID SHOULD WEAR A MASK. AND WE WERE SPEAKING EARLIER, WHY 10? I SURMISED? I HAVE NO INFORMATION. 10 IS THE AGE OF JUVENILE RESPONSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PUT IT IN THERE. I SAID THAT MIDDLE 0.6 LATE 10. THERE ARE ADULTS. LET'S JUST SAY YOU GET THE DOCTOR BACK THERE. THAT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD, THE CDC ALSO ADDRESSES, UH, LET ME JUST READ IT. SOME INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, SENSORY INTEGRATION CONCERNS OR TACTILE SENSITIVITIES, CERTAIN MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS ARE LIMITED. COGNITIVE ABILITY MAY HAVE A NEGATIVE REACTION TO WEARING A CLOTH FACE, FACE COVERING. SO, UM, I'M JUST, UM, I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A VERY, UH, INFREQUENT SITUATION, BUT I, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE AT LEAST AUTO, THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME, SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADDRESS IT. WELL, YOU COULD ALWAYS PUT ON ANY OF THOSE WHERE APPLICABLE OR IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE THE BEST. AND FOR THE VISITORS, YOU ALWAYS USE BROAD LANGUAGE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THE CDS, YOURS. YOU NEVER USE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS WILL LEGAL SOMEBODY OFF OF THE LIST. APPLICABLE LANGUAGE ALWAYS IS BETTER BECAUSE THAT'S GOVERNED BY GOOD SENSE. LIKE WHERE WOULD YOU INSERT THAT IT WAS THE FIRST DRAFT. WE HAD THE FIRST DRAFT ON ONE, TWO, AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. SO I TOOK IT OUT, BUT THAT WAS ONE WAS JUST KIND OF A BROAD BRUSH. UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, JUDGE, IT WAS ALL COPPER COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHERE APPLICABLE WORKING AT ONE. AND THEN IT'S ALSO VERY COMMERCE. ONE LESS THAN SIX, EIGHT FROM ANOTHER PERSON SHALL WEAR A FACE MASK WITHIN COFFEE COUNTY BUILDINGS TO LIMIT THE SPREAD NUMBER TWO. WHAT RATE, IF WE INCLUDED ALL VISITORS TO COFFIN COUNTY WHERE A CLICKABLE, WHEN LESS THAN SIX FEET FROM OTHER PARSONS SAID, THOSE TWO WORDS, DOES THAT HELP? I THINK THAT WOULD JUST WORK. I THINK THAT WOULD JUST ADDRESS IT EVER GIVE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR STAFF, SOME LATITUDE TO USE OUR JUDGMENT IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, NOPE, YOU DON'T COME IN HERE WITH THAT KID OR YOUR SON OR WHATEVER. OKAY. SO THAT, OR WOULD BE AMENDED AFTER IT SAYS HIM AND WHERE IT'S AFTER EMPLOYEES AND WHERE IT SAYS VISITORS IN THE SAME WHERE HE WOULD SAY WHERE IT HELPS IT. ALRIGHT, NOBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? UH, IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE PROMOTIONAL FISHER CASE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES ALL THE OTHER ONES A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT AGAIN, IT'S REALLY WASN'T MINE. IT WASN'T LAST FALL FOR TODAY. THIS IS JUST SORT OF WHERE WE SORT OF WHERE WE DRIFTED THE AD COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. I'M GOING, UH, UH, OF COURSE KAREN AND JUST WILDLY DID ALL THE WORK ON THIS AND CUT AND PASTE IT FROM OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SAW. SO THIS, UH, I GOT OUT OF ORDER THE SEASON, AS LONG AS THE SAME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD POINT OUT ABOUT THIS ORDER IS THAT THERE IS NO PROVISION IN HERE FOUR AND ONLY, UM, I'VE TALKED TO FORMER CITIES THAT HAVE STAFF SINCE LAST, I GUESS, TALK TO THEM ON FRIDAY, EARNING PRIDE, UM, COPULATING TERRIBLE, OR WE'RE INTENDING OR LABOR. THEY'RE COUGHING, JUST PASSING OR, AND JEN JORDAN DESIGNER OF JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO. AND I BELIEVE CAROL HAS IT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE INCLINED TO PASS THE ORDER. IT WOULD BASICALLY RESONATE WITH THIS CRANDALL IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT. AND [00:25:01] I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW THAT THEIR INTENTION, I TALKED TO JANA, I THINK I DON'T EVEN KNOW PASSING ORDER, BUT THEIR SUPPORT OF OUR NEWNESS, UM, FORNEY, COMPETENCY MANAGEMENT ON HIM. UM, HE JUST SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO CREATE AN ORDER, BUT HE DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE FOR THE BOARD. THERE'S ANOTHER CITY IN THE METROPLEX. THEY'D HAD A SORT OF A BLOW UP. AND I MEAN, WITH TERRA COUNTY, YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD BE DOING THAT EXCEPT WHAT WE WERE DOING. THEY DIDN'T TALK TO THE MAIN BANK. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE, UH, TALKED TO BRIAN MARTIN, THE CITY MANAGER, THERE, YOU SEEM TO BE, SEEM TO HAVE ANY OBJECTION. AND KIM HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED THE CAMPUS EMPLOYMENT, UH, ONTO THE SUBJECT OF THE FACT OF THE SABIKA PENALTIES. THE REASON I'M WAITING AND HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE KNOCKED THE PENALTIES IN HERE THAT A MONEY HAS A 10 MILLION ERROR. THAT IS BETWEEN ONE AND $1,000 PER DAY PER VIOLATION. UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO INFLUENCE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, REALLY, OTHER THAN THE SHERIFF , CITY'S GOT CODE ENFORCEMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS. AND I THINK IF THEY WANT TO PASS AN ORDER AND WANT TO REFLECT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND PUT SOME PENALTIES, OKAY, MOST VIRTUALLY ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE CITIES WE'RE TALKING. THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING TO BE SEEING, IS THIS JUST HAVE ME ON THE CAMERA? SO CAN I READ THE, THE NAIL THEREFOR THING, JUST THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, THE AIRPORT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT A COMMISSION FOR A PROBLEM. THE COUNTY AFFECTED 11:59 PM ON JANUARY 29TH TO CONTINUE UNTIL MODIFIED, I'M SORRY, JUNE TERRY, UH, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY, PAUL, UH, IT SAYS ALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AND ENTITIES OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN COFFEE COUNTY, PROVIDING GOODS OR SERVICE SERVICES DIRECTLY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC MUST DEVELOP A HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY. HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY MUST REQUIRE AT A MINIMUM THAT ALL EMPLOYEES OR VISITORS, TEEN YEARS OR OLDER TO THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES, BUSINESS PREMISES, OR OTHER FACILITIES WHERE FACE COVERINGS IN AN AREA OR WHILE PERFORMING AN ACTIVITY, WHICH WILL NECESSARILY INVOLVE CLOSE CONTACT PROXIMITY TO COWORKERS, PUBLIC, WHERE SIX BE OF SEPARATION IS NOT FEASIBLE. UH, IT SAYS A NUMBER TO HELP HELPING SHAPE THE POLICY PART TO BE DEVELOPED BY DISORDER AND ALSO INCLUDE OTHER IMPLEMENTATION OR MITIGATING MEASURES THAT THEY, THEY PERIOD IS NECESSARY. UM, THEY MUST POST THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY, UH, AS REQUIRED, BUT THIS ORDER IN A CONSPICUOUS LOCATION AND THEN THREE COMMERCIAL IMAGES AND BUSINESSES SHOW DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY REQUIRED FOR THIS ORDER WITHIN FIVE CALENDAR DAYS. THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ELITE IS JUST FOR THE REQUIREMENTS WHERE A NICE COVER, EVEN IF THEY ARE REMAINING SIX FEET. I MEAN, NEARLY ALL THESE BUSINESSES ARE IN CDS, RIGHT? I WILL, I CAN'T THINK, I MEAN, WE PROBABLY GET SOME BITES OUT IN THE COUNTY, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF VERY MANY. THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONVENIENCE STORES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU STORE UP RODNEY. SO HOW'S THIS GOING TO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I'LL PROBABLY BE TO GO TO THE CITIES TOO. I'LL PROBABLY GO TO CARROLL TOMORROW. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK THROUGH THIS, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE SERVERS I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CONSUMERS AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ACTUALLY TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN MY, ONE OF MY LOCATIONS ALREADY WHEN THEY'RE EIGHT, OBVIOUSLY GOT TO HAVE IT ALL ABOUT MORE. MY MAIN CONCERN IS MY KITCHEN. YEAH. IT GETS PRETTY HOT IN THAT KITCHEN. AND I'M CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH WORKERS PASSING OUT AS WELL. HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT. I KNOW THAT MY YOUNGEST SON CALL IT THINGS TO BE WORKS. GOOD. PLUMPER, TAKE WHAT YOU GUYS TELL ME THAT THEY ORDERED THREE DIFFERENT ORDERS. ALL OF THE 400 ARE ALL WEEK ARTISTS. HE DOES FRACK WITH ME, WHATEVER THEY'RE REQUIRED [00:30:01] ALL THE TIME, WHERE THERE MAY OR MAY HAVE HAD A SINGLE PROBLEM. HE SAID THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I SAID IT TOOK HIM A LITTLE BIT OF GETTING USED TO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU NEED , I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'M JUST GETTING IT THERE. AND OF COURSE, AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE AUSTIN FAN MARK, BUT HE SAID THAT HE SAID, FATHER, THE NAME A LITTLE BIT PERSON PROBABLY GOT USED. GOOD. HE'S NOT BAD. THEY GAVE UP A LITTLE BIT OF OPTION TOO. THEY DO WEAR FACE SHIELDS AND SOME OF THEM BLACK MAN. SO THEY PUT A FACE ACTABLE JUST RATIO. IT WOULD ELIMINATE A SPRAY OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. NO HELL NO. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I'M REALLY CUT OUT HEARING, BUT WHEN WE HAD OUR TASK FORCE AND THE DIFFERENT GROUPS CAME TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH ROOMS, THE ONES THAT DID THE RESTAURANTS, THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION THAT THEY INCLUDED IN THEIR, JUST THEIR DEAL FOR THE KITCHEN PEOPLE FOR THAT REASON. SO, UM, NO SERVERS AND STUFF, THEY WANTED HIM TO WEAR THE MASKS, BUT THEY DID HAVE THE EXCEPTION FOR THE COACH AND STUFF IN THE BACK TO KEEP THEM FROM HAVING SOME TYPE OF ACTS, EITHER A FLASH THAT CATCHES A MASK ON FIRE AND BURDENSOME OR WHATEVER. SO, AND THAT WAS DONE BY THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY CAME UP WITH THAT. I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST CURIOUS. I'M JUST GOING TO START THE FACE SHIELD. IS THAT CONCERN ABOUT THE MASK, THE SHIELD, AS I'VE SEEN SOME BUSINESSES IN CARROLLTON, YOU COULD SAY THAT THE FACIALS WOULD BE ALSO HELPFUL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE THE EXACT SAME EFFECT, SO I'M NOT SURE I CAN SAY THAT THE THING WOULD BE WHERE THE ONE THING I THINK TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION, HOWEVER, THE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE BEEN NOTED FOR THIS. THEY SPECIFICALLY ARE OUTLINING FOR CERTAIN AREAS TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THESE ORDERS. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO TRYING TO MIMIC THOSE TYPES OF THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. AND IT'S A TRICK QUESTION. MR. LAWSON THERE'S HAVE BEEN AN OPERATING ROOMS WHERE THE TEACHER WAS EXTREMELY BEEN IN PLACES WHERE THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMFORT LEVELS, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR ABILITY TO FUNCTION. UH, ACTUALLY YOU USED TO, IT IS CERTAINLY NOTES. IT'S A NUISANCE AND IT'S NO FUN. AND WHEN YOU FIRST GET IN THERE AND GET USED TO IT, I GUARANTEE YOU IT'LL BE DIFFICULT. BUT, UH, SO MS. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT THEY HAVE OTHER EXCEPTIONS TO IT. AND THE OTHER COUNTIES I'D BE INTERESTED TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THE WAY THAT'S BEEN DONE IS OKAY, SO LET ME, LET ME, I'M SORRY. GOING BACK TO WHERE I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS, WE GOT SIDETRACKED. MOST OF THE BUSINESSES ARE IN CITIES, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S WHY THE ONE, THEY ENDED UP WITH THE SEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. WHY WOULD YOU DO IT COUNTY WIDE VERSE MEETING EACH INDIVIDUAL STUDENT DECIDED TO DO WITH THEM ON WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SAID MRS. SAT IN THE COUNTY. AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERN IS, UH, IF ONE CITY, IF A CITY IMPLEMENTS RESTRICTIONS THAT PEOPLE WHO DROP OUT OF THE CITY INTO ANOTHER CITY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT JUST A FUSION OF THE PROBLEM, NOT NECESSARILY KNOWING WHAT THE RULES ARE, THAT'S MY FAULT. SO LET ME, UH, LET ME ADD TO THAT. YOU HAVE A RELATED CONCERN SIMILAR TO THE CORPORATE COUNTY ORDER. UH, AND I'M REFERRING TO CDC INFORMATION ON RESEARCH AND PRINTED THIS MORNING. UH, CDC AGAIN, DOES MAKE THESE, UH, ADAPTATION AND FEASIBILITY MITIGATION RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT THAT NUMBER ONE SHOULD NOT WEAR FACE GOVERNMENT. SO THAT'S CHILDREN UNDER TWO OR ANYONE. THIS WAS A CDC QUOTE, ANYONE THAT HAS TROUBLE BREATHING, RIGHT. UM, AND THEN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DEAF OR HARD OF HEARING [00:35:01] THOSE PEOPLE ARE OFTEN, UH, UH, ADVERSELY IMPACTED. UH, AND THEY DO, UH, THEY DO IN THAT ESSENCE RECOMMEND AT A MINIMUM, UH, CLEAR FACE COVERAGE. UM, AND AGAIN, PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, SENSORY INTEGRATION OR TACTILE SENSITIVITIES, MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS, OR LIMITED COGNITIVE ABILITY, UH, THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT SHOULD NOT WORK FACE COVERINGS WHILE ENGAGED IN THAT MIGHT CAUSE THE FACE COVERING TO BECOME WET, UH, THAT MAKES IT, UH, EXPONENTIALLY MORE DIFFICULT TO BREATHE. AND ALSO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ENGAGED IN HIGH INTENSITY ACTIVITIES. UM, PERHAPS LIKE BEING, BEING A COOK OVER A HOT STOVE, UH, IN THOSE INSTANCES, THEY TALK ABOUT, UH, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, THAT YOU COULD EFFECTIVELY CONSIDER CONDUCTING THOSE ACTIVITIES IN LOCATIONS THAT UTILIZE EITHER GREATER VENTILATION OR AIR EXCHANGERS. UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL FACE MASKS ARE REALLY DESIGNED TO ENHANCE SOCIAL DISTANCING. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN, UH, ROD, THAT YOU COULD HAVE YOUR, YOUR KITCHEN HELP, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AGGRESSIVELY ENGAGE IN SOCIAL DISTANCING THAT WOULD TEND TO MITIGATE, UH, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PERHAPS WEARING A MASK, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT. SO ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE ORDER SHOULD HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE, I DON'T KNOW IF F AS APPLICABLE WORKS, BUT SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE THAT WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THESE SEVERAL EXCEPTIONS THAT EVEN THE CDC RECORD WOULD THAT BE SUCCESSFUL AS AN SDDC? I DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'LL READ YOU THE LANGUAGE, CONSIDER CONDUCTING AN ACTIVITY IN A LOCATION WITH GREATER VENTILATION OR AIR EXCHANGE AND WHERE POSSIBLE MAINTAIN A PHYSICAL DISTANCE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT JUST ARE, THEY RECOMMEND THEY DON'T WEAR BASEMENTS. SOME OF THOSE UPPER EAST SIDE. AND IN THE END, I SORTA HAVE TO, UH, TAG ONTO COMMISSIONER HUNT IN THE END. THERE'S A PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEN ALL OF US HAVE. IF, IF, UH, IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF IN YOUR HEART, YOU BELIEVE THAT IT'S HAZARDOUS TO GO INTO A BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THIS, THESE RESTRICTIONS, THEN DON'T GO IN THAT BUSINESS. UM, SO I MEAN, THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK YOU, YOU JUST CAN'T LEGISLATE IF YOU WILL, OR ORDER COVER EVERY SITUATION. SO AT SOME POINT COMMON SENSE AND PERSONAL DECISION MAKING HAS TO TAKE PLACE. YOU KNOW, THE, THE DILEMMA, YOU KNOW, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS THAT IT'S ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO BE CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR, THEIR FEAR. SO I ALSO DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THIS, BUT I DO THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF A COMPREHENSIVE ORDER, IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE A CAVEAT THAT INDIVIDUAL ISSUES CAN BE, UH, CAN BE ADDRESSED OR MITIGATED BASED ON SOME OF THESE OTHER GUIDELINES FROM THE, AT LEAST FROM THE CDC. I'M NOT SO BIG ON THE WORLD. HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN TO COMPLETION FROM THE CDC, OKAY, DARK, BRIGHT YOUR WORK. I WAS GOING TO ECHO WHAT HE SAID. I THINK THAT'S VERY WELL, BUT JUST AS A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE JUST PUTTING SOME THAT SAYS, EXCEPT WHERE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED BY CDC GUIDELINES, I THINK THAT ALLOWS THERE TO BE A LOT LESS KIND OF IN THERE, AND YOU HAVE GUIDELINES THAT YOU HAVE THOSE EXEMPTIONS COVERED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES IT TOO BROAD. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S Y'ALLS JOB, BUT I THINK WHAT KATE SAID VERY WELL SAID, THAT'S A REASONABLE WAY THAT I WOULD SAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S OVERLY BROAD, BUT WHAT YOU WILL END UP DOING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT ARM BACK ON AN INDIVIDUAL, WALKING IN SAYING, YOU KNOW, UM, MY 12 YEAR OLD HAS ASTHMA AND HE CAN'T WEAR THAT. AND SO THEN YOU'VE GOT THE BUSINESSES MITIGATING THAT, AND SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE THOSE AND THAT WE CAN MAKE A RANDOM SCENARIOS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THIS [00:40:01] CALL A WALL AND GIVE THEM AN OUT ON THE CDC, BECAUSE WE'RE FIGURING OUT MORE THINGS ALL THE TIME. COULD YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THERE EXCEPT FOR THIS, THIS, THIS ORDER DOESN'T APPLY IN SITUATIONS THAT ARE EXCEPTIONAL BY HER EX ACCEPTED BY THE STUDENTS, OR YOU COULD DO IT THE OTHER WAY INSTEAD, BUT, BUT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CDC, UM, FACE MASK, UH, GUIDELINES THAT ARE PROMULGATED YOU SOME PLANS YOU WEREN'T LIKE THAT, OR JUST SOMETHING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I GET LIKE THAT CHARACTER YOU THINK, INSTEAD OF ACCEPT AS DO YOU WANT US, EXCEPT IT WOULD NOT TO CONTRAVENE OR CONTRADICT THE CDC. YES, BUT NOT IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE CDC GUIDELINES. JUST I LAUGH, I GUESS, WHERE I THINK THEY'RE USING CDC GUIDELINES AND BLOGGERS, ALL THE PEOPLE ARE USING. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH THE PLASTIC SHIELD. SOME OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T MIND BACK OVER THAT, A LITTLE BIT OF BREAK AND BUBBLE SHARE WHATEVER, OR CHANGED IT OUT, CONSTANTLY KEEP IT CLEAN. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT CLOSE PROPER ARE LIKE ARGUING . SO YOU WOULD JUST PUT THAT ONE. WHAT I'LL DO IS MAYBE ADD A NUMBER FOUR. OKAY. THAT SAYS IN THE EVENT THAT ANY PROVISION OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY CONTRADICTS THE CDC AND THE CON THE CDC DOMINATE DUMB I'VE RECOMMENDED THAT SAY CDC AND THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES. OKAY. AND CDC AND THE DC DSHS, THIS DSHS HAPPY. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR . THEY HAVE SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OF PROTOCOLS, UH, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED BUSINESSES WHERE, UH, WHERE THE TARGET AUDIENCE IS, IS 10 OR MORE INDIVIDUALS IN A GROUP, OR LESS THAN 10. I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME, WELL, MR. DO YOU WANT TO DRILL DOWN WITH THAT SPECIFIC? CAUSE WHAT Y'ALL EFFECTIVELY DOING? ONE WAS TELLING THEM COUNTY IN BUSINESSES ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE. WE WEREN'T EVEN DOING ANYTHING ELSE THAN THAT. SO THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? CURLING. OKAY. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS JUDGE, AND SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THE ORDERS THAT I'VE ALREADY SEEN PERSON'S HOUSE TYLER YESTERDAY. AND, UH, SO THEIR ORDERS THERE, WHICH I WAS WHEN I READ THEIR LITTLE POSTING REALLY REFERRED TO THIS, UH, UH, TDS H UH, GUIDELINE THAT I'VE PRINTED TALK ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, IN, IN, UH, RESTAURANT LOCALES, TALK ABOUT THE WEARING OF A FACE MASK INTO THE FACILITY AND EXITING THE FACILITY, BUT AT, BUT AT YOUR GROUP, WITHIN YOUR GROUP, 10 OR 10 OR LESS, WHICH IS OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE 50% GUIDELINES, WHICH INCORPORATE SOCIAL DISTANCING, THEN YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A FACE MASK IN THAT, IN THAT SETTING, IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT TO RUN A RESTAURANT. IF EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO TAKE A DRINK OF TEA OR THINK ABOUT YOUR BURGER, YOU GOT TO TAKE YOUR MASCOT FACILITY THAT'S AND THAT'S RIGHT OUT OF THERE, UH, STATE HEALTH. SO WE CAN ADD THIS NUMBER FOUR THAT SAYS IN THE EVENT, ANY, IF YOU ALL WANT TO IN THE EVENT AT ANY PROVISION OF THE HEALTH AND CODE POLICY CONTRADICTS THE PROVISIONS SET FORTH BY THE CDC AND DSHS ON THE CDC AND D S H ESHS PROVISIONS PREVAIL. BUT THE SAFETY POLICIES REALLY ISN'T HERE. WHAT IS THAT WORTH? AND VICE GOVERNANCE EMPLOYEES OR VISITORS. SO IF THAT'S ALL THAT WE'RE REQUIRING, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S KIND OF, YOU SEE THIS AT THE SECOND POLICY [00:45:01] SIDE TO REALLY ADOPT THAT POLICY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME OUT AND IT'S THIS LAID OUT THESE GUIDELINES, RIGHT? THEN WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT WE SAY HERE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT SURRENDER EIGHT GAYS, RIGHT BACK TO THE COUNTY JUDGE, I GUESS A CLEAR POLICY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND POLICY IS GO OUT, BACK WASH THE DIRTY BARS, NO ONE GIVES A MINIMUM. WE DON'T GIVE A MAXIMUM. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. ONE THING THAT'S REALLY, WE'RE SAYING, PAUSE, JUST LIKE, WHERE ARE YOU? MAY I ASK? THEY MAY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF RIGHT. THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE TO JUST WRITE THIS INCIDENT. AND WE GIVE THAT EXAMPLE IN NUMBER TWO, WHERE WE SAY, YOU MAY INCLUDE WHAT YOU JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE, WHICH WOULD BE EVEN MORE, WHICH IS BROADER, BUT IT GIVES IT BACK TO THE BUSINESSES. SO FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMINOLOGY, YOU'RE JUDGING, TOOK QUARTERS, KICKING THAT BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS TO SAY, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE TEMPERATURES, IF YOU WANT TO DO SOME KIND OF A SCREENING, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE BUSINESS, UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDER DOES. IF Y'ALL WANT MORE SPECIFIC ORDERS LIKE COMMISSIONER KATE SAID LIKE OVER SMITH COUNTY, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF ORDERS. THIS IS BROAD, A MUST COVER AND SAY, SIX FEET APART MAY DO MORE. AND NOW WE'VE ADDED WHILE WE'RE INCLUDING CDC, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC HUMAN, BUT THOSE ARE GOD. THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDER DOES. IF WE JUST LEFT IT THE WAY IT IS, WE'RE BASICALLY, AND WE'RE REALLY ASKING EVERYBODY AND WHERE I'M ASKING YOU CAN'T DISTANCE. YEAH. WHERE BASKET. BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE, PARTICULARLY FROM THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SOME, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOME GUIDELINES BECAUSE THIS ORDER, IF I READ IT NOW SAYS YOU GO IN THERE FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, WITH SIX PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY, THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WEAR A MASK. IS THAT, IS THAT AN INCORRECT READING? IT SAYS YOU WILL WEAR A FACE COVER, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TDS TALKS ABOUT. WELL, IT SAYS TO CLOSE CONTACT, PROXIMITY TO COWORKERS OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHICH EXEMPTS ME. YOU CAN'T. IF WE GO IN THERE TOGETHER, WE HAVE TO STAY SIX. EVERYBODY ELSE READ IT VERBATIM, WHICH WILL NECESSARILY INVOLVE CLOSE CONTACT OR PROXIMITY TO THE COWORKERS. IF YOU'RE A WORKER OR GENERAL PUBLIC, WE'RE SIX FEET SEPARATE. IT'S NOT PHYSICAL. SO SOME STRANGER WALKS OVER TO THE TABLE TO SPEAK TO US WHILE YOU AND I ARE NOW TAKEN OFF FOUR OR FIVE SCOURING, AND WE'RE STARTING TO EAT, THEN WE NEED TO PUT ON OUR MASKS WHAT THAT SAYS. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR MY FAMILY TO BE AT CHUCK E CHEESE AND EAT. I'M GOING TO LET YOU, THE PLAN THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED. THAT WAS PART OF THAT TASKFORCE NAIL THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER. AND IT WENT TO THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE. THAT NAME WAS PUT OUT FOR EVERYBODY. NOW THEY DIDN'T COULDN'T MAKE EVERYBODY USE IT OR ADOPT IT. ONE WAS MADE FOR EVERYBODY IT'S OUT THERE FOR THEM TO USE BASED UPON WHAT THE TASKFORCE. LET ME ASK THE GROUP, THIS QUESTION. UH, IF WE IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY, WHICH PLACES DO YOU THINK WOULD HELP REDUCE THE SPREAD? THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT DO, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED THE RIGHT POLICY AND MAYBE WE WON'T BACK THEM UP. YOU HAVE, THEY WON'T SAY, LOOK, EVERYBODY COME TO OUR BUSINESS NEEDS WORK, AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUST WALK THROUGH THAT DOOR AND FORCE THEIR CELL PHONE, OR EVEN THE DALLAS, DALLAS. THE ORDER SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK WHEN YOU GO INTO THE BUSINESS, UNLESS YOU CAN MAINTAIN DISTANCE. SO YOU GO INTO A STORE IN DALLAS, ACCORDING TO THAT, OR YOU GO INTO [00:50:01] THE STORE, DALLAS, SKIP BEACON. THERE'S NOT ANYBODY ELSE IN THERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT'S NOT THEIR PERCEPTION. UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. WELL, IT WILL, IT WILL THIS, IF WE, IF WE CAN PUT NUMBER FOUR LANGUAGE, AMERICAN CARA WAS SAYING TO ADDRESS THESE SPECIFIC SITUATIONS. BUT, UH, I GUESS I JUST WONDER WHETHER OR NOT YOU FEEL LIKE THIS WILL REALLY AFFECT PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR IN SUCH A WAY. I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, I GUESS, FROM PEOPLE, JUST PEOPLE EMAIL ME AND CALL ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE SITUATION. I THINK IF NOTHING ELSE, THAT'S GOING TO HELP PUT PEOPLE'S MIND AT EASE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO MITIGATE THIS WHOLE THING. IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT STILL COMES DOWN TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO OR NOT MADE SIDE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO WITH THAT BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FORCE ME TO WEAR A MASK IN THERE. BUT I MAY ONLY GO TO A BUSINESS THAT DOES FORCE YOU, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK IT'S JUST, THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS US TO DO. THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WORK FOR THEM. LET'S DO IT WELL. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT ALL IT'S NOT BAD. IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN QUITE THE NUMBER. I HAVEN'T HAD ONE PERSON, EVERY SINGLE ONE MADE TO THE AREA. WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND, AND IS, YOU KNOW, MORE OF THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATOR, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I'VE HAD WALK INS PARTICULARLY MORE RURAL ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT ARE VERBALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF FACEBOOK. SO I THINK JUST MORE THAN ONE OPINION. AND I THINK THE SCIENCE, YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE STUDIES, THE SCIENCE ON WEARING MASK IS, IS NOT SETTLED. UH, YOU KNOW, BUD, I THINK, UH, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS, AND THEN THE JUSTIFICATION FOR ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, UH, WITHOUT BEING AS LONG AS YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT BEING TOO INTRUSIVE. I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE, WE HAVE, I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS IS JUDGE. YOU MAY KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY COMMON IN, IN AMERICA TO SEE THOSE SIGNS, NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO SERVICE. SO, UH, EXCEPT IN DISCRIMINATORY ISSUES, I THINK THAT A BUSINESS DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO SET THE ATMOSPHERICS IN THEIR BUSINESS, RIGHT WITH IT, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY OF THE TILES RELATED TO, TO PROTECTED CATEGORY DISCRIMINATION. SO AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS WE, UH, AS LONG AS THIS LANGUAGE, WHEREVER EVEN POINTED OUT WHERE THIS RELATIONSHIP, MY CONCERN ABOUT RESTAURANTS, TALKS ABOUT EMPLOYEES. UH, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THAT NUMBER FOUR HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE LOSS OF UP THERE. I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SUBSIDIES. MAYBE THAT'S NOT, BUT THERE ARE INTERESTING SITUATIONS AND JUST THIS ISN'T GONNA, UM, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS I CAN ENSURE ALL'S DECISION. OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT PASSING THE BUCK. WHAT PEOPLE I THINK RESENT. YES, WE'RE AT THE ENTITY. THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE VERY HAPPY. WE'RE JUST TELLING THEM, ADD, ADD THE MINIMUM GUYS, SOCIALLY VISTA, IF YOU CAN'T WEAR A MASK, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO INSIDE YOUR BUSINESS, THAT'S ON TOP OF GO. AND BY THE WAY, Y'ALL, HAVEN'T SET A PENALTY. YOU'RE LEAVING IT TO THE LOCAL CONTROL TO IMPLEMENT ANY TYPE OF PENALTY FOR THEM FAILING TO COMPLY. UH, NO, SIR, WE WILL NOT BE CRIMINAL TRESPASSING. ANYBODY DON'T SAY THAT WORD. THAT'S NOT A CRIMINAL. THE COUNTY SAYS, NO, NO, SIR, BUT WE HAVE NO PENALTY. SO IN THE ABSENCE OF PENALTY, IF THEY CREATE A PENALTY, CAUSE THERE'S NOT A PENALTY. YES, I CAN'T Y'ALL WOULD NOT AGREE PENALTY, BUT IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL TRESPASS MARSHALL UNTIL YOU ASK THEM TO LEAVE FOR A NEUTRAL REASON. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST IF ANYBODY WITHIN THE HEARING, ALWAYS ENGLISH WOULD NOT ESCALATE TO A CRIMINAL TRESPASS. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IS SOME CASE I WOULD NOT WANT TO SIT AT THE OFFICE. [00:55:02] ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS FROM THE FIREWORKS INDUSTRY, SIMILAR TO THE RESTAURANT. WHAT IF SOMEONE GOES INTO A FIREWORKS STAND AND THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING OR WEARING THE MASK, THEY COMPLAIN TO CARBON CANADA ONE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD TELL THE BUSINESS TO PROVIDE A MASS. SEE, SOMETIMES WE CAN ELIMINATE, WELL, GET A MASS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MASS AND PUT A SHARP AROUND YOUR MOUTH, THAT YOU'VE GOT JUST A LITTLE G SHARP, YOU SUFFICE CAMERON. AND I BET YOU, WE CAN MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD. SO ALL HE WANTS IS TO SELL A FIREWORK. THE OTHER PERSON JUST WANTS TO RECEIVE THAT'S A FIVE MINUTE TRANSACTION, SO LET'S JUST BE CREATIVE. AND THIS IS NOT PROSECUTING PEOPLE FOR ENJOYING THEIR FREEDOM, NOT COFFEE COUNTY. I AGREE. I APPRECIATE IT. MMM. WELL, I GUESS I'LL CALL IT QUESTION. ARE Y'ALL ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. IF SOMEONE WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. COULD YOU, COULD YOU RESTATE IT HERE? UM, IT'S WORTH READING THE WHOLE THING. PROBABLY I'M JUST READY. A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDER REGARDING COVID-19 HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IN THIS COUNTY AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION OF NUMBER FOUR, WHICH STATES IN THE EVENT, ANY PROVISION AND THEN HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE CONTRADICTS A PROVISION SET FORTH BY THE CDC AND D S H S COMMA, THE CDC, INDEED S H S PROVISIONS PREVAIL I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE ADDITION OF FIVE, FOUR AS READ BY, BY OUR ATTORNEY THAT OTHERWISE BY SAYING, AYE, MOTION CARRIES, UH, UNDER THE MAYOR OF, UH, THIS BROAD . I HAVE ONE OTHER THING TO JUST INFORMATIONAL, NOT ON THE ACTION ITEMS THAT I HAD CONVERSATIONS STARTING THIS MORNING WITH WILEY, CARRYING ON WITH MARY, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WITH CASES, WE'VE HAD POSITIVE CASES, THE COUNTY, AND I'M NOTIFIED ON ALL EMAIL. OF COURSE WE CAN IDENTIFY WHO THE PEOPLE ARE IN ANY WAY, WHAT DEPARTMENT THEY WORK IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND I'VE HAD, AND I KNOW MARY'S HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE. THEY DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE PERSON OR NOT. BECAUSE WHAT WE DID IS WE CAN'T TELL THEM. SO WHAT I THINK WHAT MARY IS GOING TO WORK ON IS OFFERING EVERY EMPLOYEE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN A WAIVER AND GET THE WAIVER. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO SIGN A WAIVER TO SAY, IT'S POSITIVE FOR COBY. YOU CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH GIANT COUNTY. AND I THINK THAT WILL CAPTURE WE'LL HAVE MORE CASES. I MEAN, OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE THAT I'M NOTIFIED. OKAY. I'LL REMIND THAT ALL AROUND THE CORNER. I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN THE LOOP ON ALL THAT STUFF. WELL, MARK IT'S COMMISSIONER ACTIONS FOR US TO DO THE ASSISTANCE. I THINK THAT GOES, I THINK THAT GOES IN, IN A SIMILAR VEIN TO KNOWING WHAT THE, WHAT THE POSITIVES ARE IN YOUR PARTICULAR CITY IN LOCALE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO AT LEAST KNOW [01:00:01] WHERE THESE POSITIVES ARE IN THE FACILITIES, THEN AT LEAST YOU CAN SELF ASSESS IF YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN EXPOSED. AND AGAIN, WE WERE IN THE COURTHOUSE THAT DAY OR IN THE SOUTH CAMPUS THAT DAY. AND I OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL OF THEM ONCE WE GET THIS WAIVER OUT, BUT WE HAVEN'T, THEY HAVE A WISDOM WRITTEN WAIVER YET, BUT ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND SIGN THE WAIVER AND GET IT BACK TO HR, BECAUSE WON'T DO ANY GOOD. IF NOBODY SIGNS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY [5. Adjourn Emergency Meeting. ] DISCUSSION. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.