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ARE YOU READY? BOBBY?[Workshop - To discuss Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Budget.]
THIS WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED ORDER.UH, TODAY IS JULY 16TH, 2020 9:00 AM.
AND WE'RE IN THE, UH, COMMISSIONER COURTROOM TODAY.
UM, WE'LL DISPENSE WITH THE NORMAL FORMALITIES AND, UM, KIND OF REVIEW.
WHAT DO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN, WHO HAVE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD THAT'S IMPORTANT IS EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU SEE THOSE DOLLAR FIGURES FOR EXTRA POSITIONS, THEY'RE THERE, NONE OF THAT, NONE OF THOSE DOLLARS INCLUDE ANYTHING FOR BENEFITS.
THERE'S NO SOCIAL SECURITY, UH, RETIREMENT OR ANYTHING FACTORED IN YET.
UH, WHAT WE WERE THINKING WHEN WE DID THAT, IS THAT THAT REQUIRES A GOOD DEAL OF, UH, WORK TO GET ALL THAT STUFF PUT IN.
AND SO, BUT JUST BEAR IN MIND THAT THAT NUMBER YOU SEE IS GOING TO BE BUMPED UP BY 12%, I GUESS, OR SOMETHING 15, NO MORE THAN 17, 18%.
SO ANYWAY, YOUR BIGGEST COST IS THE HEALTHY HEALTH INSURANCE, RIGHT? THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.
SO I, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE IN OUR REVENUE COMING OUT OF THE APPRAISAL OFFICE.
AND, UH, SO I'M GOING TO KICK IT OVER TO JERRY AND LET HIM START WALKING US DOWN THAT PATH BEFORE YESTERDAY OR YESTERDAY.
NO, YESTERDAY WE GOT AN UPDATED APPRAISE VALUE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE BEING PRETTY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR NUMBER OR THE APPRAISAL, JUST CIRCUS BEING ULTRA CONSERVATIVE AND THEIR NUMBERS.
SO THEY LOWERED PROPERTY VALUES ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS.
SO I HAD TO ADJUST OUT SOME, SOME TAX RATES.
I KEPT THE REVENUE AS WHOLE, AS I FEEL THAT, OF COURSE, WHEN YOU DO THIS AND YOU'RE DIVERTING THE DIVIDING BETWEEN ROAD AND BRIDGE, DECIMAL POINTS CHANGE, ET CETERA.
SO THERE'S SLIGHT CHANGES, BUT IF YOU'LL JUST LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF WHAT I JUST HANDED YOU OUT.
SO LAST WEEK WITH THE, WITH THE RATES WE WROTE ABOUT 50 CENTS WAS THAT WAS THAT CAN, THAT RATE AND RODEN BRIDGE WAS AT NINE.
YOU REMEMBER RODEN BRIDGE WAS AT 9 CENTS.
WOULD IT KEEP YOU WHOLE, I HAD TO RAISE RODEN BRIDGE TO NINE, SIX, EIGHT, AND IT WASN'T AND WHAT THAT DOES, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF, IT JUSTICE, THE MNO, BUT THE REVENUE ITSELF IS STAYING HOME.
BUT IN ORDER TO KEEP REVENUE, WHOA, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE, BUT TO CHANGE THE RATE.
UM, JUST BEAR IN MIND THAT THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE VALUES THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT GAVE US THAT ARE NOT BEING DISPUTED.
SO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S OUT THERE IS IN DISPUTE.
THERE ARE SOME OF THAT WILL COME BACK, BUT I HAVE GO WITH THE NUMBER I HAVE TODAY, RIGHT? SO THE NUMBER I HAVE TODAY ARE THESE VALUES.
WE CAN PROBABLY GET ONE OF THESE A WEEK FOR THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
AND AS, AS PROPERTIES GET RELEASED OUT OF PROTEST, THEY'LL GO INTO THIS VALUE DOLLAR.
AND I'LL JUST KEEP ADJUSTING THIS RATE, UM, WHILE KEEPING REVENUE, AS YOU KNOW, WITHIN A CLOSE PROXIMITY OF WHERE IT'S BEEN THE ENTIRE TIME.
SO THAT'S, THAT'D BE THE PROCESS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
NOW THIS ISN'T FINAL, BUT THIS IS HOW IT NEEDED TO LOOK TODAY.
SO I COULD SHOW YOU THE MOST CURRENT VALUES.
I TOOK THOSE NUMBERS AND I RAN THOSE INTO, UH, INTO THESE, INTO THIS BOOKLET.
AND THE WAY WE, THE WAY WE SHOW REVENUE IN THE BOOKLET IS THAT WE DON'T SHOW 100% OF TAX LEVY BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALWAYS COLLECT 100% OF YOUR TAXES.
SO WE'VE BEEN USING A RATE THROUGH, THROUGH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
SHE HAS A, SHE HAS A RUNNING TAB OF WHAT YOUR AVERAGE IS.
AND THEN WE OFFSET THAT WITH TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OF DELINQUENTS THAT YOU PICK UP.
SO YOU GET BACK TO YOUR WHOLE NUMBER, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE MATH THAT WE USE.
SO AS YOU DO THAT AGAINST THE NUMBERS, IT'LL CHANGE SLIGHTLY AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ABOUT REVENUE, BUT WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO GO DOWN FROM THIS NUMBER.
I DON'T EXPECT IT TO GO DOWN FROM THIS NUMBER, OR WE STILL HAVE SOME TRUE UPS OUTSIDE OF TAX LEVY.
UM, THE JUDGE REMINDED ME THAT WE PICKED UP ANOTHER TAXING DISTRICT.
WE APPROVED ANOTHER TAXING INDUSTRIAL IN HERE.
SO, UH, KAREN WILL CONTINUE TO TRUCK TIPS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS THEY COME, THEY COME BALLOT.
SO WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT OF TRUE UP IN THOSE NUMBERS.
IT WON'T BE SIGNIFICANT, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME TRUE UP THERE.
SO WE'RE USING A 97.5% COLLECTION RATE.
AND THAT'S OUR, THAT'S BEEN AN AVERAGE, I THINK, IN THAT, RIGHT, KAREN? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE USE IT WHEN WE CALCULATE.
AND WE'RE AT ABOUT 90 REALLY? WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING AT LIKE, ALMOST LIKE 4%.
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I CAN CHECK IT IN JUST A FEW MINUTES AND TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE SITTING.THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS I'M JUST, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT OUR COLLECTION RATE NEXT YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME TAXPAYERS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR TAXES, BUT JUST EVERYBODY JUST NEEDS TO BE ALERT TO THAT.
LET ME THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SPECULATION.
JUST PULL IT, GO AHEAD, JERRY.
SO, SO HAVING SAID THAT, UM, I PUT IN, SO YOU'VE GOT THE FIRST COLUMN SAYS FYI, 20 REVISED BUDGET.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WAS WORKING OFF OF, OF SOME OF ALL THE WORKSHEETS, UH, REVISION ONE WAS WHAT WE WENT THROUGH LAST WEEK.
WHAT I DID THE REVISION TO FROM BASED UPON OUR LAST MEETING, I TOOK OUT ALL PAY WAGE REQUEST.
SO OUR RATE INCREASES WERE REMOVED.
I LEFT THE BASE SALARIES OF ALL THE POSITIONS IN THERE, AND I LEFT ALL THE OTHER ASK IN THERE.
SO SOME OF ALL OF THOSE PARTS, IF YOU GO TO LET ME GET TO THAT RAP PAGE.
SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, PAGE 30, ONE OF WHAT I JUST HANDED OUT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING ABOUT A $900,000 DEFICIT.
UM, SO THERE'S THAT $900,000 DEFICIT TAKING ALL THOSE WAGE REQUESTS OUT OF THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE SET TODAY BY TAKING OUT THE WAGE REQUEST THREE 70, AS THE JUDGE JUST MENTIONED, THAT NUMBER WOULD GO UP ONCE KAREN RUNS IT THROUGH LABOR, YOU CAN ADD ABOUT 17% OF THAT.
SO THAT'LL GO UP WHEN SHE PUTS TAXES AND BENEFITS AND RETIREMENT AND TRUES ALL THAT UP.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE SET AS OF TODAY, WE'VE SCHEDULED EVERYONE.
UM, THAT ASKS FOR A POSITION IS SCHEDULED TO COME IN AND TALK TO US THIS MORNING, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SHERIFF, I DID ASK THE DA TO COME IN, CAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAD OUR NUMBERS.
YOU KNOW, I WASN'T SURE I HAD ALL OF KAREN AND I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE IN OUR NUMBERS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ACCURATE THERE.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CAPTURE ALL THOSE NEW POSITIONS FIRST.
THAT WAS THE ASK OF THE COURT.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET NEW POSITIONS CAPTURED, WE FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT MATH LOOKS LIKE.
THEN WE CAN HAVE A PRETTY TRUE NUMBER ON, ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
THE OTHER ASK THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF, OF, OF PERSONNEL ARE RELATIVELY MINIMAL, UH, YOU KNOW, A SMALL MINIMUM.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S SMALL, JUST A SMALL ASK HERE, YOU KNOW, AN ADJUSTMENT TO OFFICE SUPPLIES OR AN ADJUSTMENT, DO SOME TRAINING BUDGETS.
THEY'RE NOT VERY, VERY LARGE ASK.
SO I THINK THOSE WILL BE PRETTY, PRETTY EASY TO GO THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY.
UH, EVERYTHING IN YELLOW THAT'S OUT TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE NOTES IS THE WAY WE'RE TRACKING OUR CHANGES.
COMMISSIONER HOP IS SO YOU CAN SEE IT VERY CLEARLY.
AND THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I'LL START HIDING REVISION ONE, GO REVISION TWO TO REVISION THREE.
AND WE'LL JUST KEEP THIS SAME PROCESS IF THIS WORKS FOR EVERYONE, JUDGE.
AS OF TODAY, WE'RE AT 2.4699999999999998 REMAINING TO COLLECT ON WHAT WE BUDGETED IN CURRENT TAXES, DELINQUENT TAXES, WE'RE SITTING AT FOR ALMOST 41% NOT COLLECTED AS WE BUDGETED 1,000,020, AND WE'VE ONLY COLLECTED 630,000.
IS THERE A NORMAL, UM, WHEN'S THE FOURTH QUARTER PAYMENT DUE? THERE'S ANOTHER PAYMENT DUE ON SOME OF THOSE PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS THOUGH.
I THINK IT'S THIS MUCH, BUT I THINK IT IS TOO.
SO THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING TOO.
JULY 31ST WITH NO, TILL SOMETIME IN AUGUST 1ST TWO WEEKS, AUGUST WHAT WE DID ON THAT.
LET ME GO BACK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
JUST KIND OF REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE, UM, FOR THIS PHASE, WE'VE TAKEN OUT ALL THE RAISES THAT PEOPLE ASK FOR WE'VE LEFT IN THE EXTRA POSITIONS AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION, UH, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT ASSUMING THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH, WITH MONEY THAT WE COULD BE USING FOR RAISES.
WE'RE GONNA PARK THAT MONEY IN A VIEW.
KAREN'S GOING TO PARK THAT MONEY IN OUR ACCOUNT, IN AN ACCOUNT.
AND THEN WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING TARGETED RAISES BASED ON THE WAGE IN CLASSIFICATION STUDY.
EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT STILL.
SO THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING.
I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS JUST TO LISTEN TO THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DECIDE I'LL TAKE NOTES.
I SAW THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS FROM THERE AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL RUN EVERYTHING THROUGH, THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR LABOR WORKBOOK.
AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU A REALLY TRUE, GOOD LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND WE'LL RERUN ALL OF THESE REQUESTS I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH,
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WITH PROPERTY VALUES WHILE KEEPING REVENUES WERE WHERE THE COURT HAD HAD ASKED REVENUES TO BE.SO YEAH, THE ONES THAT THEY APPROVED, THE POSITIONS AND STUFF, THEN WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE SALARY SHEET AND DO, LET IT, LET IT DO THE MATH, MAYBE THOSE NUMBERS TO FIT INTO THAT.
I TEXTED RAELYNN AND ASK HER SHE COULD COME ON DOWN.
SO, UH, KAREN, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO YOURS? WE'LL PAGER.
NUMBER PAGE 15 OF WHAT I JUST HANDED OUT.
UM, MY EXTRA POSITION, THE MAIN REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW, DRIVEN THE BILLS, PAYABLES HAS GROWN CONSIDERABLY, AND THEN WE HAVE NEW BOND ISSUES AND NEW GRANTS.
AND I REALLY NEED SOMEONE WITH AN ACCOUNTING DEGREE THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP ME, UM, TRACK ALL THESE GRANTS AND ALL THE BOND EXPENDITURES AND, AND TRUE UP NUMBERS WITH MR. POLLSTER, UM, ON THE BOND ISSUE, HE HAD TALKED TO ME THE BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK AND HE SAID THAT IN THE COUNTY OF DENTON, THEY REALLY HAD A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY WERE TRACKING IT THE SAME WAY WE WERE.
AND I SAID, I'M NOT DOING THAT AGAIN.
SO I WANT TO, UH, CHANGE A FEW THINGS TO GET THAT HELP, TO DO THAT.
UM, ALSO I'VE REQUESTED THE MONEY TOO, FIX SEW TO GO TO OPENGOV WHERE IT'S IN THE CLOUD.
UM, WHEN I HAD AN ISSUE WITH STW LAST MONTH, THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY DIAL IN AND RESTART OUR SERVER TO MAKE OUR SYSTEM WORK CORRECT, BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN RESTARTED IN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND IT HADN'T BEEN BACKED UP.
UM, SO IT KINDA UPSET ME AND I TALKED TO IT AND HE SAID IT WAS BACKED UP.
IF IT'S ON THE CLOUD, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
AND I BROUGHT SOME INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL ON THE SOFTWARE.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M DOING AND WHY I'M DOING IT ARE ASKING HOW TO APPROVE IT.
UH, WE HAVE TO CHANGE SOME OF THE FUNDS, SOME OF THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO I'M GOING TO NEED SOME EXTRA HELP AND USE IT.
SO THE STATEMENT OF WORK, YES, THIS SMALL SMALL PACKET, AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITH THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US.
AND THE ONE GOOD THING ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT JUST THE FINANCE, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS PROGRAM.
ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO USE IT, TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT REPORTS AND LOOK AT THEIR DIFFERENT BUDGETS AND STUFF.
UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET TO THAT PAGE REAL QUICK.
OH, WELL HE DID MARK HIS PAGES.
UM, NEXT TO THE LAST PAGE ON THE BIG PACKET THAT I GAVE IS THE UPGRADE PROPOSAL.
AND IT'S TO TAKE STW TO OPENGOV IN THE ERP CLOUD AND IT'S $40,000 ANNUALLY.
WELL, WE ALREADY BUDGETED THAT 40,000.
WE JUST DID AN EXTRA DEAL WITH THEM AND GOT TO CUT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS ON THAT I THINK IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THIS IS DEPLOYMENT TO HELP US FIX THIS WHERE EVERYBODY CAN ACTUALLY USE IT.
THEY CAN GET THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING AT THEIR, THEIR DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET.
THEY CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT REVENUES, DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, UH, DARIO, BE ABLE TO USE IT, TO MAKE THE WEBSITE LOOK A LOT BETTER AND GIVE MORE INFORMATION TO OUR CITIZENS.
AND IT'S A, A $61,000 HIT, BUT IT'S JUST A ONETIME EXPENSE ON THAT.
KAREN, DOES THAT INCLUDE, OR DO YOU KNOW? YES SIR.
IT GOES THROUGH AND TELLS YOU THE DIFFERENT TRAINING THINGS THAT
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THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH US.AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S BEEN NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP IS THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
CAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF IT ADDED LINE ITEMS HERE AND THERE.
AND I LIKE IT, LIKE MAYBE ALL THE 1100 NUMBERS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH, BUT SALARIES, THE THREE THOUSANDS HAS TO DO WITH OPERATING EXPENDITURES AND MAKING IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.
AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND I THINK THE COUNTY JUDGE THAT I SENT YOU THE LINKS TO LOOK AT COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT THEY ALREADY DO.
AND IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE WITH IT.
AND I CAN SHARE THAT LINK WITH ANYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT.
THEIR FOCUS IS REALLY ON, ON REPORTING.
YES, BECAUSE I USE VISION KW AND I USE VISION.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE GOT ALL THESE SPECIAL LITTLE REPORTS THAT WE COULD RUN FOR EVERYBODY.
BRANDY'S GOT VISION NOW AND SHE'S TRYING TO LEARN IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT ANYMORE.
SO I'M GOING TO LOSE THAT SIDE OF THAT, THAT, AND ONE THING I REALLY NEED TO TALK WITH IT, GENTLEMEN, THAT SENT ME THAT PROPOSAL IS BECAUSE Y'ALL APPROVED ME TO DO THAT THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THAT DISCOUNT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HONOR THAT I'M GOING TO ARGUE IN THAT.
ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE IN PLANO GRAPEVINE? YES.
UH, LYNETTE JIM, UM, MARY BETH, UH, ALBERT, AND THEN THERE'S CHRIS BARBER AND THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS THAT, THAT HELP US WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES.
SO THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.
STW IS CAUSE GOING AWAY IN ESSENCE, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S STILL GONNA BE STW, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO AFTER THIS YEAR I WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE OLD SOFTWARE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE NEW ANYWAY.
OPENGOV DID NOT HAVE A, UM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ACCOUNTING PLATFORM.
THAT'S WHY THEY BOUGHT STW WAS TO BRING THAT I BELIEVE SO.
AND WHAT'S THE DROP DEAD DATE ON THIS CONVERSION? WHEN IS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE PLACE? I HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT WITH THEM YET.
I WANTED TO GET THE COURT'S APPROVAL BEFORE I GIVE THEM THE GO AHEAD.
YEAH, WE NEED TO GET THIS STORY.
AND UM, I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY SALARY INCREASES IN, UM, LAST FRIDAY HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND THE DISTRICT JUDGES GAVE ME A RAISE AND THEY GAVE MY STAFF RAISE AND I HAVEN'T ADJUSTED ANYTHING YET.
COURT REPORTERS GOT A RAISE ALSO FROM THE TWO DISTRICT COURTS.
WERE YOU AWARE THAT I WAS NOT THAT SALARY SHEET WE'LL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT AND WE PUT IT IN THERE.
CITY OF KAUFFMAN ALSO USES STW AND THEY ARE THERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO THIS ALSO? NO, I KNOW OF ALL THE OTHER SOFTWARE PROGRAMS I LOOKED AT THOUGH.
THEY'RE ABOUT THREE TIMES WHAT STW CHARGED US.
UM, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS THEN WE'LL, UH, ASK RAYLAND TO TALK ABOUT, OH, WE'VE GOT GOOD JUDGE BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, IT'D BE HELPFUL IF YOU WOULD GET THE COURT COULD TELL US OR ME, IS THAT POSITION APPROVED OR IS IT NOT APPROVED BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TO UPDATE THAT SHEET.
AND WE NEED TO DO THAT AFTER WE TALKED TO EVERY PERSON.
SO I CAN MAKE NOTES ON MY NEXT ACTION AND UNDERSTAND, UH, WE'RE NOT OBVIOUSLY NOT VOTING TODAY, BUT WHAT'S
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THE, WHAT'S THE THINKING PROCESS.UH, WE'LL START PRECINCT ONE AND GO DOWN THE LINE.
WELL, THERE'S JOBS THAT WE CAN'T DO OUR JOB IS TO DO SKEET.
SOMETIMES SOFTWARE PEOPLE KIND OF HAND IT OVER AND WE'RE HAND.
WELL, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, UH, HAS THE COUNTY GROWS.
AND THE, UM, OUR BOND PACKAGES AND PROGRAMS BEGAN TO TAKE TRACTION.
THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE, I MEAN, SIMPLE ACCOUNTING, UH, TASKINGS.
AND, UH, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS A CRITICAL FUNCTION OF THIS COUNTY.
AND, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, GIVEN OUR FAITH IN OUR COUNTY AUDITOR THAT, UH, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY THAT SHE WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED A NEW POSITION IF SHE DIDN'T ACTUALLY NEED IT.
SO I I'D BE IN FAVOR OF ADDING THIS POSITION WITH, WITHOUT Y'ALLS QUESTIONING.
I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES, WHY I HAD ASKED FOR THAT POSITION OF ALL THE EXTRA DUTIES.
AND I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO, I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FUN ONE 28 ON THE ROAD BOND.
WHEN WE GOT THE MONEY, WE PUT IT ALL IN ONE CONSTRUCTION LINE ITEM.
AND AS YOU WERE DOING THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, WE WOULD BRING BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO Y'ALL TO MOVE ONE ON TRANSFERS, TO MOVE THAT MONEY OUT OF THE MAIN CONSTRUCTION TO HIGHWAY TWO 32 OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WHAT HAPPENED AND IT'S MESSED UP AND WE'RE FIXING IT, THE NEW ONE I'M USING JOHN POLLSTER SHEET THAT YOU GIVE ME THAT COPY OF AND Y'ALL APPROVE THAT PROGRAM.
SO ALL THE MONEY'S GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THOSE LINE ITEMS. CAUSE I'VE GOT THE 40 MILLION IN ONE LINE ITEM.
SO THAT WAY NEXT YEAR, IF YOU HADN'T USED 6 MILLION OF IT AND ONLY 500, WE'RE GOING TO CARRY THAT FORWARD AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THAT ORIGINAL PRICE.
SO THE FIRST BOND ISSUE GOT NOT, IT'S NOT MONEY MISSING OR NOT.
THEN IT'S JUST IN THE WRONG LINE ITEMS BECAUSE KW WOULD ESTIMATE AND THEN CLOSE IT OUT AND GET Y'ALL TO PROVE IT.
AND WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THE, ALL THE AMOUNTS TO THE DIFFERENT ROADS AT ONE TIME AND NOT HAD JUST ONE BIG LINE ITEM TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF A PROJECT IS WHAT SHOULD BE THE NICE THING.
I GUESS IF, UH, YOU GOT, UH, A PROJECT THAT IS BUDGETED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEN IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH AND YOU CLOSE IT OUT, WHERE WOULD THAT WOULD THAT USUALLY THAT'S WHEN MR. POLLSTER, INSTEAD OF
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL UNDERSTOOD WHY I SAID THAT, UM, KEEP TRACK OF HER MONEY WHILE WE DON'T SPEND ON ONE OF THESE ROOMS TO COME IN UNDER BUDGET OR LATER.
WELL, THE MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN IN THAT ORIGINAL, UM, ROAD BOND.
I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS WERE GIVEN EACH A MILLION A MILLION.
WE CARRIED THEIR NUMBERS FORWARD.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAD, I THINK SOMEBODY HAD SIX OR 9,000 IN A LINE ITEM IN THAT FUND ONE 20.
THEY COULD ACTUALLY SPEND ON HELPING PAY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO YOU GOT THAT CLEAR, JERRY? YES, SIR.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO START WITH THE FEW ADJUSTMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE WITH STAFF IS WHAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY
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DISCUSSED WITH.Y'ALL JUST KIND OF THE REALIGNMENT OF MY CURRENT STAFF OFFERING, UM, A PURCHASING COORDINATOR POSITION, JUST SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT WITHIN THE STAFF AND ALSO SINCE TAKING ON MALE THIS PAST YEAR AND HAVING A FULL YEAR TO HAVE THAT, ONE OF MY REQUESTS WOULD BE THAT RATHER THAN THE ONE OF MY ASSISTANT BUYERS BEING ALSO THE MAIL CLERK THAT I ALSO, I GET TO HAVE A CLERK AND TWO ASSISTANT BUYERS.
BUT MY PROPOSAL IS THAT THAT MAIL CLERK NOT JUST BE FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, BUT IT BE A FLOATER FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT DEPARTMENTS WHO MAY NEED EXTRA HELP WITH TELEPHONES OR EXTRA DUTIES WITH ELECTIONS, ET CETERA.
SO IT WOULD BE THE BASE PAY CLERICAL STAFF, WHICH IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
UM, MALE, AS I'VE DESCRIBED, IT IS TECHNICALLY AN EIGHT HOUR A DAY JOB JUST BECAUSE WE CHECKED SO MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, BUT IT'S NOT A SOLID EIGHT HOURS.
SO IF THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR HOURS THROUGHOUT THE DAY THAT SOMEONE NEEDED TO HELP ANSWER TELEPHONES OR FILE OR WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I BELIEVE THAT THIS POSITION COULD ALSO DO THAT TO ASSIST OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WITH THAT, I AM ASKING FOR A BIT OF A RAISE FOR THE PURCHASING COORDINATOR.
AND THEN I'M ALSO ASKING THAT WE RAISE THE ASSISTANT BUYER POSITION, UM, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE CLERK POSITION, JUST SO IF I WAS ABLE SEPARATE THE TWO POSITIONS, WE WOULD HAVE AN OPENING FOR AN ASSISTANT BUYER.
AND THE ONLY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS THAT I REALLY MADE WAS REQUESTING PARTS AND REPAIRS AND ALSO GAS AND OIL.
PART OF THE FLEET MAINTENANCE REQUESTS THAT I PUT OUT WAS TWO PATROL UNITS, ONE F-150 PURSUIT.
AND ONE OF THE SUVS THAT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WOULD ESSENTIALLY HOLD AND USE FOR MAIL AND USE FOR TRAVEL.
BUT WE LEARNED IN LAST YEAR THAT, UM, WE ARE GOING TO OUR, OUR VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE IN ACCIDENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE CONSTABLE CARS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE KSL.
IF IT'S A REGULAR DEPARTMENT VEHICLE, WE CAN GENERALLY GET THOSE REPLACED WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
HOWEVER, THE PURSUIT VEHICLES, DEPENDING ON WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THEY'RE GENERALLY SIX TO NINE MONTHS OUT.
SO MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE, WE HAVE THESE TWO VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET AND IF THEY'RE NEEDED BY ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, WE ALREADY HAVE A VEHICLE THAT WE CAN IMMEDIATELY PUT BACK IN SERVICE FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
AND WHEN WE ORDER THE NEW ONE, IT COMES INTO PURCHASING.
UM, PURCHASING WOULD ONLY IF, IF THIS, THESE VEHICLES DID NOT GET TRADED OFF WITHIN THE YEAR AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE PUT INTO THE FLEET THAT WOULD BE UP FOR REPLACEMENT.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE CONSTANTLY HAVE THEM ROTATING IN AND OUT.
AND THE ONLY EXPENSE IF A VEHICLE IS IN AN ACCIDENT WOULD BE TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT ON IT BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BETWEEN KSL AND CONSTABLES.
UH, ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU THAT I GUESS YOU MUST BE TRYING, THINKING ABOUT ADDRESSING IS, UM, YOU'RE IS KIND OF RECOGNIZING THAT YOUR, THAT YOUR POSITION AT YOUR ASSISTANT IS NOT REALLY, I MEAN, SHE IS OPERATING AT A HIGHER LEVEL.
YES, SHE'S DOING, I MEAN, SHE'S DOING MORE THAN WHAT ORIGINALLY THAT POSITION WAS CREATED FOR.
UM, WE'VE KIND OF DIVIDED UP DUTIES AND THE PERSON COORDINATOR WOULD MORE OVERSEE KIND OF THE ASSETS IN INVENTORY DEFINITELY MAKES SURE THAT THAT WAS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WAS ON THEM.
UM, NOW THAT WE'RE A YEAR INTO ENTERPRISE, THERE WILL BE SOME OF THAT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO START GIVING SOME OF THE STAFF TO HELP WITH, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE INITIAL ORDERS.
UM, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS CROSS-TRAINED, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND SO, UM, THE PERSON THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THE COORDINATOR POSITION, SHE, SHE HAS LEARNED AND SET SIDE-BY-SIDE WHEN WE WERE DOING BID SPECS AND ALSO INVENTORY MAINLY.
AND SO BOTH OF THE PHYSICIANS ALSO ARE HELPING WITH BUYING AND PURCHASING AND GETTING QUOTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST, I THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD, UM, GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO COULD ALL SHARE IN RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS VERY DIVIDED WELL, AND A LOT OF THE WORK IS YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO DO A LOT OF THE WORK HAVING TO DO WITH ALL OF THE
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PROJECTS, THE BOND PROJECT, THE FACILITIES PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON.AND I ASSUME THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL YOUR TIME FOR THEM, THOSE OTHER THINGS.
ALL THREE OF THEM SOMETIMES ARE GONE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET AND TAKE CARE OF THE MAIL AND STUFF.
AND NOW SHE'S RIGHT IN THE BIG MIDDLE OF INVENTORY.
WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH A DEPARTMENT THAT IT'S A TOTAL MESS AND WE GOT TO GET IT FIXED AND SHE'S WORKING REAL HARD WITH THEM TO GET IT DONE.
IT'S A LOT OF HANDS ON, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT, BUT IT IS IT'S HANDS ON WITH A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO TO HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO BE IN AND OUT AND STILL HAVE THE OFFICE COVERED WOULD DEFINITELY BE A BENEFIT.
SO RAYLAND DID IT JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED IS THE PURCHASING COORDINATOR, A NEW POSITION? YOU DON'T HAVE ONE NOW I DO NOT HAVE ONE CURRENTLY.
SO THAT WOULD BE A NEW, THAT WOULD BE A NEW BODY ONLY POSITION.
IT WOULD BE A RECLASSIFICATION OF A CURRENT BODY.
BUT IT, IT WOULD STILL, I WOULD STILL HAVE, IF ALL OF IT WAS APPROVED CURRENTLY I'M PURCHASING AGENT IN TWO BUYERS.
SO THERE'S THREE PEOPLE WITHIN THE OFFICE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE PURCHASING AGENT PURCHASING COORDINATOR.
ONE OF MY BUYERS WOULD MOVE UP.
UM, THE OTHER BUYER WOULD THEN BE THE CLERK SLASH FLOATER, WHICH WOULD BE THE MAIL CLERK AND ASSIST WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY I WOULD HAVE AN OPENING FOR A BUYER POSITION.
WELL, THAT WAS MY, YOU KNOW, YOUR DEPARTMENT, JUST LIKE THE AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT HAS CERTAINLY SEEN, UH, A VOLUME OF, UH, INCREASED WORK WITH, WITH THESE BOND PROJECTS.
AND, UH, AND, AND REALLY THE SHIFT IN HOW THE COUNTY DOES BUSINESS.
UH, I KNOW OUR OFFICE, I MEAN, I MUST SAY IT 10 TIMES A DAY.
CALL RAIL AND GET THAT DONE CALLED RIGHT.
SO, UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS, IS YOUR STAFFING, UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS FLOATER AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND, BUT IS YOUR STAFFING TRULY ADEQUATE? IF, IF ALL YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS RECLASSIFYING ONE BUYER, I MEAN, W WOULDN'T IT BE WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, JERRY, IF YOU CAN GUESSTIMATE IT IN, JUST IN MAINTAINING TO THE TWO BUYER POSITIONS, YOU HAVE AN ADDING THIS, THIS, A PURCHASING COORDINATOR.
WELL, THE NET, THERE WAS TWO FOLDS.
SO THE INCREASES IN RECLASSIFICATION OF BODIES EQUATES TO $17,372, THE ADDING OF A POSITION AT THE BASE LEVEL.
CAUSE IT'D BE A CLERICAL BASE.
THE JOB IS 34, ONE 14 AND YOU'D ADD TAXES AND BENEFITS TO THOSE, TO THOSE NUMBERS.
SO THAT'S THE NET IMPACT OF IT ALL.
SO WHAT IF YOU GOT A, WHAT IF YOU GOT A COMPLETELY NEW PURCHASING AGENT, BUT NOT A CLERK? WOULD THAT WORK? YES.
ESSENTIALLY I AM ADDING THE BUYER POSITION BECAUSE CLERK SHE'S RECLASSIFYING ONE.
ONE CLERK WOULD GO TO PORTS, PURCHASING COORDINATOR.
ONE CLERK WOULD, ONE BUYER WOULD GO TO CLERK.
AND SO THEN IT WOULD GIVE ME A BUYER.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT'S THE IMPACT OR WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL FOR NO CLERK, BUT MAKING THE NEW POSITION, NOT A CLERK, MAKING THE NEW POSITION OF A PURCHASING GORDY, YOU NEED ANOTHER PURCHASING COORDINATOR QUESTION WAS SHE DOESN'T HAVE ONE NOW.
RIGHT? I MEAN, DO YOU NEED ANOTHER PURCHASING PERSON AS OPPOSED TO A CLERK, I NEED A FULL TIME POSITION, WHETHER THAT'S COORDINATOR, BUYER, UM, WHAT I'M REALLY LOOKING AT DOING IS THE THREE OF US NOT SHARING MALE DUTIES.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE KIND OF DIVIDING AND CONQUERING SO THAT WE CAN GET THE OFFICE UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN THE MORNING.
IF THEY DON'T RIGHT, BUT SHE'S LOSING A BUYER, THEY COULD HAVE, THEY DON'T IN THIS, IN THIS SCENARIO, YOU'LL HAVE ONE BUYER.
WELL, THE PERSON, THE COORDINATOR WOULD STILL ALSO DO THE BINDER AS WELL, BUT WITH THE RAISE, THEY WOULD TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
THE INITIAL JOB FOR BOTH POSITIONS IS GOING TO BE THE BUYER.
WHAT DID, I MEAN, THIS WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME TO NOT CALL THAT PERSON A PERSON QUARTER BETTER THAN ASSISTING ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT.
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NOT AN ACCURATE AND A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION? ISN'T THAT WHAT SHE'S DOING ESSENTIALLY.IN ESSENCE, SHE'S YOUR SECOND, YOU KNOW, SHE'D BE YOUR, YOUR SECOND IN COMMAND.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT SHE GO TO THE STATE TRAINING AND GET CERTIFIED FOR THAT.
IF YOU DON'T OBJECT, IF YOU DON'T OBJECT, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TITLE OF ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT.
CAN I JUST TITLE AND THE FUNCTIONS OF FUNCTION IF THEY DON'T LEAVE? BUT I WOULD, I THINK THE TITLE SHOULD MATCH MORE WITH WHAT SHE'S DOING AND SHE'S, SHE'S A ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT.
MATTER OF FACT, SHE'S DOING A LOT OF THEM.
BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH THE RISK OF DOING THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT POSITION MORE CLEAR AS THE NAME LINES UP MORE THAN WHAT SHE'S ACTUALLY DOING.
CAUSE SHE'S REALLY PERCHING NAKED
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE FIRST THING WE SHOULD DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE PURCHASING FUNCTION IS ADEQUATELY AND CORRECTLY STAFFED.
AND SO ONCE AGAIN, I MEAN, I HAD DEFERRED TO THE CONFIDENCE.
I THINK THAT YOU HAVE BUILT WITH ALL OF US THAT IF YOU NEED A ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT SLASH COORDINATOR, I THINK THAT'S A VALID REQUEST.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBT THAT THE VOLUME OF WORK IN THAT IN THAT'S ALREADY DOING THE WORK RIGHT.
THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY LESS.
SO SHE'S KIND OF LIKE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
WE DEAL WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL RECORDED.
SO MY POINT IS, UH, I THINK, UH, I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF MAKING SURE THAT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS CORRECTLY AND ADEQUATELY STAFFED, WHATEVER THEIR TITLES ARE.
UH, ALL THAT BEING SAID, UH, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ADDING, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF ADDING A PURCHASING COORDINATOR AS OPPOSED TO ELIMINATING A BUYER.
CAUSE I MEAN, I THINK YOUR BUYERS ARE BUSY ALREADY.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER THE POSITION FOR THE FUNCTION OF MAIL SEPARATELY.
UH, CAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR, IT WAS DONE DIFFERENTLY AND YOU TOOK IT ON LAST YEAR.
IT WAS IN MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING, WASN'T IT.
LAST YEAR I JUST, I HAD AN OPENING AND, AND, AND IT ROLLS ALSO INTO, WE ALSO LAST YEAR TALKED ABOUT A FLOATER POSITION UPSTAIRS THAT WOULD FLOAT AROUND.
I THINK AT ONE POINT IT WAS, THAT WAS GOING TO BE ASSIGNED TO HR OR SOMETHING.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT ONE.
AND THEN IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH, UM, INDIGENT IF SHE WASN'T HERE.
AND I'M GUESSING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN SOMEHOW.
UH, SO, UM, SO IT JUST SEEMS TO ME, AND I KNOW I'M SPENDING MONEY HERE OR AT LEAST POTENTIALLY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, THAT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE THIS NEW PURCHASING POSITION.
AND THEN IF, IF AS A COUNTY WE NEED A MAIL CLERK, THEN, THEN THAT OUGHT TO BE A SEPARATE POSITION TO DEAL WITH MAIL.
IF THAT'S, IF WE HAVE THAT VOLUME OF MAIL EVERY DAY, WHICH I PRESUME WE DO, THEN I THINK THAT'S JUST, THAT'S A REALITY OF, YOU KNOW, THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS GOVERNMENT.
WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL THAT POSITION, THE CLERK AND, AND LEAVE IT UP TO RACHEL AND TO DECIDE HOW MUCH, BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT PERSON THAT'S, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE THEY CAN BE DOING.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FLOATER IDEA, BUT THAT'D BE UP TO YOU TO SOMEONE HAS TO BE THEIR BOSS, RIGHT? YEAH.
I DON'T HAVE A FLOAT OR ANY OF THIS.
THEY JUST NEED TO BE A SEPARATE POSITION UPON PANTRY AND A PHONE OR SOMETHING SHIPPED TOMORROW.
WELL, I THINK WE TRIED THAT LAST YEAR AND THE FLOATER FLOATER DIDN'T WORK.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE ANSWER THE FENCE, I MEAN, BUT IT'S TOO, TOO.
IN FACT, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WHERE I WAS.
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OF WHO THE PERSON IS, THE MATH THAT SHE HAS ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER IS WHAT SHE NEEDS, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE PICKS IS, SHE'S GOING TO SHIFT SOME OF HER EXISTING STAFF AND TO SOME OF THESE ROLES.BUT SO IT'S, IT'S THE MATH THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES THE SENSE.
NO, UH, MAYBE I'M NOT MAKING MYSELF CLEAR.
I DON'T THINK THAT SHE OUGHT TO UPGRADE ONE PURCHASING.
WHAT ARE THEY CALL NOW? BUYERS? I THINK SHE OUGHT TO MAINTAIN TWO BUYERS AND HAVE A COMPLETELY NEW ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR, BUT THE WAYS HE'S GOING TO SAY, WELL, SHE'S DOING IS SHE'S GOING TO RESHIFT SOME OF OUR EXISTING STAFF INTO THESE POSITIONS, BUT IF SHE'S DOING IT HER WAY, AM I WRONG? YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOWN TO ONE BUYER.
I'M SAYING MAINTAIN THE MAINTAINER STAFF THE WAY IT IS AND ADD AN ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT.
AND FRANKLY, IF, IF WE THINK THE MAIL IS THAT PREVALENT, THEN ADD ALSO A CLERK.
SO THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY TWO, TWO NEW POSITIONS IN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, RIGHT.
WHEN THAT POSITION WAS IN FACILITIES, DO WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE MALE AT THAT TIME? AND IT BEING AN IMPORTANT COMPOSITION? UH, IT WASN'T A PART TIME POSITION IS WHAT I FOUND OUT.
THEY KEPT HER HOURS UNDER WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND THEN CAIO WAS DOING A MAIL TO KEEP THE HOURS STRAIGHT.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE BRINGING IN ALL RIGHT.
EXTRA HELP SO THAT THEY WERE STILL ABLE TO PAY IT OUT, EXTRA BLY HISTORY THERE.
AND I'M THE ONE THAT MADE THAT PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT BUYERS.
WHEN PRIOR PURCHASE AN AGENT WAS HERE TO HELP MAKE IT WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY GET IN THERE AND GIVE POS, OR THEY COULD ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET QUOTES AND STUFF.
CAUSE AT THAT TIME THEY WERE JUST CONSIDERED CLARK'S, UH, REGULAR AND D HOW MANY POSITIONS, UH, HOW MANY POSITIONS IN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT DO YOU NEED OR DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE, DON'T TALK ABOUT THE MALE PERSON, BUT HOW MANY POSITIONS DO YOU THINK YOU'D NEED TO BE REALLY, REALLY HONEST.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I THINK MOVING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, UM, LEARNING THE BOND SYSTEM, KEEPING US CLOSE AND TIGHT KNIT THAT, UM, IF I HAD SOME REALLY GOOD HELP IN MY ASSISTANT BUYER POSITION IN BETWEEN ME AND THE COORDINATOR, ASSISTANT PERSON, AGENT, I THINK THE THREE OF US WOULD, COULD GET A LOT ACCOMPLISHED.
AND THEN WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IF AN ADDITIONAL STAFF WOULD BE NEEDED TO MAINTAIN, UM, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE BRINGING ON TOO MANY NEW PEOPLE AT ONE TIME, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE TWO BUYERS.
UM, THEN YOU'RE ALSO TRAINING A LOT WHILE WE HAVE, WHILE I'M STILL LEARNING A LOT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF UNDERSTOOD.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GUESSING YOU WERE ASKING.
I JUST, I, I WANT TO TAKE MY TIME GETTING THE NEW BUYER AND UM, JUST, I THINK JUST HAVING A REALLY SOLID GROUP OF THREE WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE.
SO THREE PLUS A CLERK, THREE PURCHASING PEOPLE, REAL PURCHASING PEOPLE IN A CLAIM, A CLERK THAT WOULD DO MAIL AND WHATEVER DUTIES YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN TO THEIR PERSONAL SPACE.
SO WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, UM, PUTTING A DOOR IN BETWEEN WHAT THE MAIL ROOM IS NOW AND WHERE THE FRONT CLERK IS.
SO WE COULD ESSENTIALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE A DESK IN THERE WITHIN THE MINT ROOM FOR THE CLERK.
SO WE WOULD ALSO HAVE BE ABLE TO SEPARATE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE IT'S AN INVENTORY, BUT JUST TO FIX ASSETS THAT SHE HAS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR AUDIT OUTSIDE AUDITORS TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROOF SHE SENDS ME IS OVER $70 MILLION GENTLEMEN.
COMBERS ALL KINDS OF THAT'S A LOT.
SO I FELT LIKE WE KIND OF REACHED A, WE KIND OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE DOWN IN TERMS OF POSITIONS.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK THE COURT, WHAT'S THE TIMING IS THIS, IS THIS THE TIMING OF ANY, ANY FINANCIAL CHANGES? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S AFTER THE STUDY COMES BACK OR IS IT NOW? SO I CAN DO THE ADJUSTMENT BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT.
I, SO JUDGE, WILL YOU SUMMARIZE THEM BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
WHAT, WHAT POSITIONS YOU'RE IF, IF WHAT YOU DID, I UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY, YOU JUST WANT TO STAY WITH THREE PEOPLE.
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LOST A CLERK.SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MATH THAT'S ON THE PAGE AS, AS A SET.
SO JUST THE TIMING OF THIS, YOU KNOW, SO CHANGING, CHANGING SOME OF THE CURRENT SALARIES AND POSTING THE NEW POSITION, I SUGGEST WE PLUG THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE FOR THE NEXT REVISION THAT WE SEE AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
IF THE SALARIES THAT SHE'S RECOMMENDING.
THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MAKE.
CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? CAUSE I KINDA DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, WHAT, WHAT WE LEARNED THIS PAST YEAR IS IT WE'RE GENERALLY FIVE TO NINE MONTHS OUT WHENEVER ONE OF OUR PATROL UNITS GOES DOWN.
AND SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VEHICLE THAT IS READILY AVAILABLE TO GO INTO THAT DEPARTMENT'S FLEET, UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO MAINTAIN THE TWO PATROL UNITS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, OUR F-150 PURSUITS AND ALSO AN SUV.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN TWO OF THOSE WITHIN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
AND WE WOULD USE THAT FOR MAIL AND THEY WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT IF A VEHICLE GOES DOWN, IF A PATROL UNIT GOES DOWN, RATHER THAN HAVING THESE DEPARTMENTS HOLD ON TO THESE EXTRA VEHICLES THAT COST US MORE IN MAINTENANCE, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY HAVE A CAR THAT COULD GO INTO THEIR FLEET.
AND WHEN WE START DOING THE PAPERWORK FOR THAT REPLACEMENT, WHEN IT FINALLY CAME IN, IT WOULD COME INTO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
RATHER THAN THAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF FOR SIX MONTHS YOU'RE OUT OF CAR, YOU DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE, THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ONE ON ORDER OR IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE COMING IN SOON.
BUT AT LEAST OUR PATROL UNITS WILL HAVE THEIR VEHICLES READILY AVAILABLE.
UM, AND IF AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, NEITHER ONE OF THE VEHICLES ARE GONE.
THEN THEY'RE THE FIRST VEHICLES TO GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR'S REQUESTED FLEET SO THAT WE DON'T EVER HOLD ON TO A VEHICLE MORE THAN A YEAR.
YOUR REQUESTS FOR NEW DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
I'VE GOT A DEPARTMENT ALREADY FOR LEASE PAYMENTS AND I'LL JUST STICKS YOU UP SOME ON OUT SAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
YEAH, CAUSE THAT WAS, RICHARD IS COMBINING CALLED LINE AUTO.
IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 29, NEXT TO THE BOTTOM.
AFTER PAT ABOVE CAPITAL OUTLAY, I HAVE LEASE PAYMENTS.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT YOU'RE PAYING OFF THE VOTING EQUIPMENT SO THAT IT'LL ONLY BE HER REQUEST THERE ACTUALLY LEFT WOULD BE FOR THE VEHICLES WITH ENTERPRISE.
I'LL ADD THOSE THREE ON THAT TO MAKE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THEM ALL TOGETHER.
I DIDN'T PUT THEM ALL SCATTERED EVERYWHERE THREE DAYS.
THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
WE MADE YOU WAIT FOR THREE MINUTES.
SO WE ALREADY KNOW YOU HAVE ONE BIG VACANCY COMING UP NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
I THINK YOU WROTE SOME THINGS BESIDE IT.
HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? WE'RE GOOD.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW POSITIONS, NEW POSITIONS.
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FOR ME, BUT I AM GOING TO HAVE TO FILL IT.Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE THESE PROPERTIES.
AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE, I THINK I'VE ALREADY, I THINK I'VE GOT AN EXTRA, UM, ARE WE JUST TALKING POSITIONS OR OVERALL POSITIONS? ONLY NEW POSITIONS.
WELL, I HAD COMBINED EVERYTHING ON MY WORKSHEET, THE ONLY NEW POSITION AND THE ONLY HEADS UP I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WAS THE FAMILY VIOLENCE POSITION.
AND, BUT I'VE ATTACHED SOME OTHER STUFF.
SO APOLOGIES FOR THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT, I DIDN'T READ MY EMAIL CAREFULLY.
SO I'LL SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I PRESENTED AND I BELIEVE I'M ALREADY SENT THE WORKSHEETS IN, UM, TO JD AND WHAT THAT IS TWO POSITIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS PERSONNEL IS REQUESTING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE PRE PART-TIME INVESTIGATOR TO BE FULL TIME IS A POSITION THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
WE, THAT POSITION ENHANCES THE PRODUCTIVITY OF OUR FAMILY VIOLENCE.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME FAMILY VIOLENCE STATS THAT I JUST GAVE YOU.
AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR A FAMILY VIOLENCE PARALEGAL AT A 40,000, A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY START PEOPLE WITH ENTRY.
I'M LOOKING AT THAT, UM, SIMPLY AS WE MOVE THROUGH, WE'VE ALREADY THAT LAST SHEET I GAVE YOU, WHICH WAS MY EXTRA SHEET SHOWED THE INCREASE OF CASES THAT WE HAD.
AND I THINK THAT, YEAH, USE IT.
WHEN WE STARTED THAT, WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR THE ATTORNEY THAT WE HAD 157 CASES AND HOW WE GOT THOSE CASES DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, WE RECEIVED THAT GRANT OCTOBER, 2018.
AND WE Y'ALL REMEMBER, WE GOT THAT THROUGH THE COG AND THE GRANTING PROCESS SINCE THE THREE YEAR GRANT.
AND IT'S KIND OF A GREAT WAY TO SAY, HEY, DO WE REALLY HAVE THE NUMBERS? WE REALLY HAVE THE CASES.
AND I KIND OF DESCRIBING THE DATA.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT IS HER WORKLOAD IN THIS CASE, IT TO HER IT'S FAMILY VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND STALKING CASES.
SO WHEN WE PULL THOSE CASES OUT OF THE EXISTING CASES, WE CREATE A CASE LOAD OF 157 CASES FOR HER IMMEDIATELY IN THE SAME PROJECTION, TOM, WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE NOW 324 CASES.
I THINK IT'S LIKE A, MORE THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT, 106% IN CASES, SAME TIME PERIOD.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S COVID BUT THOSE CASES STILL KEEP ROLLING IN.
UM, WE COULD ASK FOR ANOTHER ATTORNEY, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK WE JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP MARSHALL THAT WE'VE GOT OUR OTHER SUPPORT STAFF HELPING HER, BUT WHERE THE LABOR COMES IN IS THIS POSITION DOES ALL, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LEGWORK OF THE CIVIL PROTECTIVE ORDERS GOING TO COURT, GETTING NOTICED, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE SERVICES PROVIDED.
SO WE TAKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN CASES THAT ARE VIOLENT IMMEDIATELY AND GET THEM IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
IT HELPS US MONITOR THE CASES AND KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT CASE ON THE FRONT END.
SO WE'VE FIGURED A PARALEGAL'S A BETTER PERSON THAN ADDING ANOTHER ATTORNEY.
IT'S HALF THE COST OF AN ATTORNEY AND THAT WE BELIEVE WILL KEEP THE CASE TRACKED.
WE'VE GOT TWO OR THREE SECRETARIES HELPING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT AN EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION PIECE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY GOT OTHER TASKS AND INTAKE AND HELPING OTHER ATTORNEYS.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE POSITION.
I'M SURE I'VE PROVIDED YOU SOME STATISTICS THAT I DIDN'T SEND A JD, BUT I PROVIDED TO YOU GUYS THIS MORNING.
AND ALSO, AS I SAID TO ENHANCE THAT POSITION, WE HAD A PART TIME INVESTIGATOR.
LET ME BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU GUYS.
HE WORKED UP UNTIL ABOUT 30 DAYS AGO DURING THE COVID THE PART TIME POSITION.
I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER KATE SAID IT PROBABLY WASN'T GONNA WORK.
I HATE TO TELL YOU YOU'RE RIGHT.
HE WAS ON THE PARTTIME AND MAYBE IT WAS US.
HE WAS RETIRED, A TROOPER AND WE HAD CREATED A SCHEDULE WHEN IT WAS EFFECTIVE FOR US.
BUT BECAUSE HE ONLY HAD 29 HOURS, IT WAS NEVER THE RIGHT TIME.
IN OTHER WORDS, HE HAD SCHEDULED AN APPOINTMENT FOR SOMETHING OUT.
IT WAS THE, IT WAS NOT HELPFUL.
HE WAS NOT SUPPORT BECAUSE HE HADN'T TOTALLY COMMITTED.
HE AT ONE FOOT IN THIS JOB AND ONE FOOT OUT, UH, WE NEED THAT INVESTIGATOR, PARTICULARLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
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WE PUT IN THERE AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH THAT.WE DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK, ATTENUATE ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NEED WITH THE INVESTIGATOR, WHICH IS THE EQUIPMENT VEHICLE AND INVESTMENT.
WE MAY HAVE A VEHICLE, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE BECAUSE I WANTED TO COME OVER HERE AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW THOSE ARE THE TWO PERSONNEL ISSUES THAT I'VE GOT.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE READY FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE JUST, THAT'S NOT PERSONNEL, BUT THAT WE NEED JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
UM, I WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOU.
YOU'RE NOT, I CAN'T HELP, BUT WONDER IF, UH, IF WE ADDED, IF WE KEPT ADDING MORE INVESTIGATORS AND ATTORNEYS, I SUSPECT THEY WOULD NEVER RUN OUT OF WORK.
THEY'D PROBABLY JUST HAVE MORE CASES.
WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW GOOD, BUT I MEAN, WE NEED, WE NEED, I MEAN, WE PROBABLY NEED LAWYERS TOO, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A GOOD TIME TO SEE THE CASES ARE COMING IN, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE BOTTLENECK.
WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ANOTHER SHOT WHEN WE OPEN THIS BACK UP AND WE GET OUT OF THIS WHENEVER THAT IS, I DON'T HAVE A PROJECTION ON THAT ANYMORE.
I'M GOING TO QUIT TRYING TO GUESS W YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF COURT TIME AND WE'RE GOING TO A LOT OF LAWYERS TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT WE STILL HAVE MANY INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND SO, UM, YOU GUYS, AREN'T OUT SOLICITING FAMILY VIOLENCE.
THESE ARE JUST RESPONSIVE ACTIONS.
YOU AND YOU, AND YOU SAY THAT SORT OF JOKINGLY, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THIS.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN DONE THE PIECE BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL DISTANCING OF GOING TO SCHOOLS, EXPLAINING FAMILY VIOLENCE, GOING TO BUSINESS, GIVING THEM A BROCHURE, TELLING THEM, HEY, IF, IF YOU SEE THESE SIGNS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN YOUR, WITH YOUR FRIENDS, THIS IS WHO YOU NEED TO CONTACT YOUR WHY.
WHEN WE GET THAT PACE GOING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE NUMBERS, THE ADVOCACY OF JUDGE WILEY AND ARE BOTH ON THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER BOARD AND THEIR NUMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN.
UH, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE KIDS ARE NOT BEING CAUGHT UP IN THESE CRIMINAL THINGS.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO SCHOOL.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THESE CASES, THE CRY OUTS COME FROM THE OUTCRY.
WE KNOW WE KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BUT WHAT WE DO SEE A LOT THAT HASN'T DECREASED IS THE CIVIL PROTECTIVE ORDER REQUEST FROM USUALLY THE FEMALE IN THE FAMILY VIOLENCE RELATIONSHIP COMING.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE KIDDOS AS A PART OF THAT IN LIKE YOU'RE SAYING OUR NUMBERS AS WE SHARE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ARE DOWN.
BUT EVERY DAY SOMETHING COMES IN.
THAT'S NOT EVERY CASE, BUT MANY, MANY OF OUR CASES TOUCH A FAMILY VIOLENCE COMPONENT HATE TO SAY, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.
SO SHOULD'VE PUT JUDGE WILDLY LAST I MADE A DEPRESSION.
CAN I SAY, LET ME TELL YOU, LET ME DO SOMETHING GOOD.
DO SOMETHING GOOD THAT HADN'T DO WITH PERSONNEL.
SO Y'ALL MAY REMEMBER, AND KAREN'S NOT HERE, BUT REMEMBER WE TALKED TO YOU GUYS AND WE DROPPED THE BALL ABOUT, UH, NEEDING.
I'M GONNA USE THIS TERM, A SOFTWARE WITH THE AGENCIES THAT DO DIRECT FILING WITH US.
AND WE HAVE A LIST OF WE PROBABLY, WHEN YOU INCLUDE PART OF MESQUITE AND ALL, I MEAN, WE AND DPS, I MEAN, WE PROBABLY HAVE 25 AGENCIES THAT FALL CASE WITH US, BUT OUR PRIMARY ONES ARE THE ONES THAT WERE YOU AND YOUR AREAS ARE YOU THINK ABOUT FORNEY AND COFFMAN AND TERRELL AND, AND CAMP AND MAYBANK.
SO WE NEED A SOFTWARE SO THAT THOSE CASES CAN BE FILED WITH US, BUT WITHOUT THE SAME OLD FASHIONED WAY OF WALKING THEM IN PRETTY MUCH THE FILING SYSTEM THAT WE'VE SEEN.
SOME OF THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT BECAUSE TERRELL AND FORNEY ARE NOT ON OUR SAME SOFTWARE, BUT WHAT I ATTACH THERE TOO, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND WE COME BACK WHENEVER Y'ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT IS SOME QUOTES THAT WE GOT.
AND WE DID THAT ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO AND THE SOFTWARE IS LIKE $110,000.
AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE OF IT IS THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THAT WOULD BE 15,000 EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN THE 34 IS COST OF THE SERVER.
SO THOSE ONES, WHAT THOSE LITTLE RECEIPTS ARE, SORRY FOR THE WAY THEY ARE.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY SEND THEM TO US.
WHAT WE WERE BRAINSTORMING ABOUT.
AND THAT WAS, SOUNDS LIKE A BIG TICKET IS THE 106 WOULD GO INTO OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S OUR SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GET.
WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT THE AGENCIES.
AND THEN WHY? BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I LOOKED AT THE, UM, MAYBE A WAY WE COULD GET THIS IS THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE EXACTLY A PERFECT FIT FOR COVID MONEY.
YOU'RE CUTTING DOWN ON PEOPLE COME INTO THE OFFICE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SENDING THAT TO YOU THROUGH A SOFTWARE SYSTEM, THROUGH OUR PORTALS.
UM, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER BUDGETED BEFORE.
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WOULD FIT THAT CRITERIA.UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BUT THAT WE HAVEN'T CREATED BEFORE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAYBE LOOK AT THAT IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE THIS YEAR, WE HAVE TO REQUEST IT.
THE, OF THE AGENCIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, WE COULD CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT WE ARE CUTTING DOWN ACTUALLY FACE TO FACE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE WE'RE EXPEDITED.
I THINK WE CAN FIT IT IN THIS UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THAT GOOD NEWS.
THAT'S OUTSIDE, MAN, I'M WORKING THIS I'M LIKE, WE CAN GET THE SOFTWARE.
THE COUNTY CAN HAVE IT FOREVER.
AND THE AGENCIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR CITIES CAN PAY FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO.
I THINK THEIRS IS 5,000 TO BE A PART OF IT.
BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME KIND OF FEMA MONEY FOR THEM, AT LEAST THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO TO GET THAT GOING.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK I'VE BEEN? HAVE YOU RESEARCHED THAT AT ALL? I MEAN, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ME, BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT STEVE WHO HE, YOU KNOW WHAT I ASKED HIM, I WOULDN'T JUST TO COME IN HERE AND MADE THAT UP.
IT'S A THOUGHT, YES, WE'VE TALKED TO STEVE.
I KNOW HOW MUCH WE'VE GOT, HOW MUCH WE CAN DRAW DOWN, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE'D HAVE TO BUDGET.
IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, RIGHT.
I THINK THE GOVERNOR JUST DIDN'T.
WE JUST GOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY THAT THE GOVERNOR, UH, SET ASIDE ANOTHER 41 MILLION FOR COVID SUPPORT FOR GRANT MONEY.
WE HAVE MORE, UH, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT $785,000 IN HAND THAT WAS ADVANCED TO US IN ONE YEAR SPAN 100 GRAND OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN WE GOT 3.8 MILLION TOTAL AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, AND WE CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND BUY STUFF AND IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING QUALIFIED.
NOW WE MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE SMALLER ONES, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE'LL, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT AN MOU, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO THEM.
BUT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING WE COULD DO AND THIS BUDGET, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND IT WOULD BE COVERT SENSITIVE.
I THOUGHT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY AS A SOFTWARE, KAREN CALLED STEVE FOR ME YESTERDAY.
AND HE JUST EXPLAINED WHAT JUDGE DID NOT.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, BUT I THINK IT HITS ALL OF THE HIGH POINTS ABOUT STOPPING CONTACT.
IT'S NOTHING THAT WE'VE BUDGETED BEFORE.
THEY DON'T WANT YOU PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HAD IN A BUDGET AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SAY, IT'S COPING.
WELL, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MONEY.
THEY'LL GET THEIR OWN MONEY TOO.
AND I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO SET UP THOSE.
PRECEDENCES, IT'S AN MOU, BUT LET'S SAY WE'VE GOT SOME PLACE LIKE IN CAMP THAT JUST DOESN'T HAVE IT THE SAME WAY WE TO PAY THEIR SHARE.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO THE DISPATCH, THAT MIGHT BE A CIRCUMSTANCE.
BUT GENERALLY WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR EVERYONE, IT'S ALL ARE PAYING FOR IS THEIR USER SUBSCRIPTION TO HOOK IN OUR SOFTWARE.
BUT THE INITIAL BUY THE INITIAL SERVER, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE SERVER WOULD GO IN THE IT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD SERVE THAT SOFTWARE.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A WAY ONLY COME UP WITH ONE OR TWO A YEAR.
BUT FOR Y'ALL THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL KAREN, YOU NEED THAT BACK.
YOU WANT TO LOOK AT, YOU DON'T WANT THE FAMILY VIOLENCE STATISTICS JUST DEPRESS YOU.
UM, I'M GONNA TAKE A SHORT BREAK.
NO, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA STAY HERE, BUT I'M GONNA TO TAKE, OH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ANSWER THE ADMINISTRATORS' QUESTIONS ON THIS.
WELL, I THINK, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH, I'VE GOT A GOOD ROOM.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SPENDING THAT THING.
YOU KNOW, UM, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE PUT THIS ON.
I'M SURPRISED WE'RE DOING IT IN PERSON, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF AN INVITATION FOR PEOPLE IN THIS NECK OF THE WOODS.
SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO, BUT WHAT DID THE AGS YOU TO GO? AND HIS PEOPLE IT'S GOOD.
PR THEY'RE TELLING YOU BRING YOUR OWN LAPTOP, SO YOU DON'T DO AS MUCH TOUCHING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TYLER AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE ALREADY GOT, WE GOT, WE GOT A COUPLE OF CASES THAT WE HAVE REALLY, WE DO.
UM, UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE JAIL FOR A LONG TIME WITH SOME SERIOUS CASES AND WANTS IT, YOU KNOW, OCA, THE SUPREME COURT SAID WE CAN'T START TO SEPTEMBER.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT SEPTEMBER, SO
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WE'LL HAVE A BRAND NEW JUDGE IN THAT.DO I SEE A NOD OF HEADS ON THIS? YES, MY ESCAPE.
HOW ABOUT FIVE MINUTE BREAK? YEAH, SURE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDED POSITIONS.
AND SO WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN YOUR REQUEST FOR ADDED POSITION, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING, RIGHT? UM, I, IN MY BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I'M ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL PART TIME PERSON FOR 20 HOURS A WEEK AT $11 AN HOUR.
UM, AND I KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE SHEET.
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SO IN THE PAST, IN THE RECENT MONTHS, WE'VE HAD A GREATER NEED FOR CONSTANT, UM, INCONSISTENT SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE, UM, WITH COMPUTER ASSISTANCE IN CLASSES, AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE LIBRARY AFTER 6:00 PM.SO AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED PERSON THAT'S REALLY DOING THESE TASKS AND IT'S SOME OF MY, THE, THE, THE STAFF NOW COMING IN EARLY OR STAYING LATE TO DO THOSE ONLINE STORY TIMES AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, UM, THIS PERSON'S ROLE WILL HELP EXPAND OUR HOURS DURING THE WEEK, HELP ROTATE OUR SATURDAY HOURS AND CONSISTENTLY HELP US MAINTAIN THAT SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE WITH OUR STORY TIMES OR BOOK TALKS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WE'RE PUSHING OUT ON FACEBOOK AND ON OUR WEBSITE, UM, THIS POSITION WOULD ALSO INCLUDE SOME DESK HOURS AND THIS IS TO HELP THE STAFF.
NOW EVERYBODY DOES DESK HOURS, BUT TO HAVE MAYBE NOT MORE THAN FOUR HOURS AT A TIME ON THE DESK, DEALING WITH PEOPLE SO WE CAN KIND OF GIVE HIM A BREAK, THEN ROTATE IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE OUT FRONT CHECKING IN, CHECKING OUT, HELPING WITH THE COMPUTERS, DOING REFERENCE, ASKING QUESTIONS, COPYING, FAXING, SCANNING, ALL OF THAT, HELPING WITH THEIR PRINTING.
UM, SO THIS, THIS POSITION WOULD DO THOSE DUTIES AND ALLOW THE REST OF THE STAFF TO DO THEIR, TO, TO, TO FULLY DO THEIR REGULAR ASSIGNED DUTIES.
UM, I DO HAVE A GRANT THAT'S PENDING.
WE'VE BEEN TO, TO THIS SECOND PHASE OF PART OF THE COVID IT'S THE TEXAS STATE CARES GRANT, WHICH WILL ADDRESS, UM, OUR INTERNET SPEED, UM, OUR INTERNET AND OUR WIRELESS SPEED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WIRELESS USERS.
SO EVEN AFTER HOURS, OUR WIRELESS IS OPEN.
SO PEOPLE CAN SIT IN THERE, THE PARKING LOT AFTER HOURS AND BEFORE HOURS.
AND HE'S OUR, AND USE OUR WIFI.
BUT WHEN OUR MEETING ROOM IS NOT IN USE, WE'VE BEEN ALLOWING STUDENTS TO GO IN, SIT AT THEIR LAPTOPS.
AND IF YOU NEEDED TO FILL OUT YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT, RENEW YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE, ALL OF THAT, THAT TAKES A LITTLE MORE TIME.
WE SET OUT THE LAPTOPS THAT WE HAVE NOW, SO THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND DO THAT.
UM, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MONITORING THEM.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE IN THERE ARE PRETTY MUCH ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE IN THE MEETING, WHEN WE CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE, UM, 20 PEOPLE COMFORTABLY WITH THE TABLES AND SPREAD THEM ALL OUT.
SO IN, SO THIS POSITION WOULD HELP US DO THAT.
ADDING THIS POSITION WILL ALSO HELP US.
UM, WE WOULD BE ABOVE WHAT THE TECH IT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND CHAPTER 13 DEFINES HIS BASIC LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR, OR, UM, THE STAFF TOO, POPULATION RATIO, AND MOVE US OVER INTO THE ENHANCED FOR LIKE THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION OF YOUR RATIO FOR YOUR POPULATION, TO THE NUMBER OF STAFF YOU HAVE.
SO IN FISCAL YEAR, THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, THE STATE LIBRARY HAD OUR SERVICE POPULATION AT 22,126.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DIVIDED OUT AMONGST THE ACCREDITED LIBRARIES, AS YOU KNOW, SO IT'S GOING TO JUMP FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SO AT THE BOTTOM, I JUST KIND OF PULLED OUT A LITTLE SNIPPET OF WHERE WE ARE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE FORMULA THAT THEY USE IS LIKE ONE FULL TIME PERSON PER 3,500 POPULATION SERVED AND THEN 0.2, FIVE FULL TIME MLS ACCREDITED LIBRARIAN.
AND THEN IT ALSO GIVES YOU THERE'S MORE TO IT, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, YOUR OPERATING HOURS NEED TO BE NO LESS THAN 40 HOURS A WEEK.
SO AS WE TRANSITION OVER INTO THAT 25 TO 50,000 RANGE, THEN IT'S ONE FULL TIME PERSON, POOR PER 4,100 POPULATION SERVED ONE MLS LIBRARIAN FOR EVERY 17,000 IN THERE LESS THAN 45.
SO THESE ARE THE MARKS THAT WE TRY TO HIT.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO HIT THOSE.
CAUSE THEN YOU START BUMPING THAT POPPY BUMPING THAT MONEY UP.
AND OF COURSE IT'S A PER CAPITA PER, UM, YOUR POPULATION.
LIKE EVERYBODY THAT WALKS THAT LIBRARY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE OUT OF THERE AT LEAST WITH ONE ITEM.
SO WISH LIKE PLENTY OF FORMULAS AND THINGS FOR THAT IN THERE.
SO THAT IS A POSITION THAT I'M REQUESTING IS TO HELP WITH THAT.
ARE THERE CONSEQUENCES FOR NOT MEETING THESE STANDARDS OTHER THAN, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO MEET THE STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH, BUT ARE THERE ANY CONSEQUENCES, DOES THAT JEOPARDIZE GRANT FUNDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO WHEN YOU'RE ACCREDITED, IT ALLOWS YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN, UM, TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR ONE GRANT THAT'S PENDING IS FOR THE INTERNET AND MORE LAPTOPS AND COMPUTERS, WHICH IS ABOUT $17,000.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR THAT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, THE 1ST OF AUGUST, UM, IT ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN CONSORTIUM'S LIKE WITH OUR EBOOKS AND AUDIOS AND DOWNLOADABLES
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WHERE IT WOULD COST US $50,000 A YEAR TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO ALL OF OUR PATRONS.WE CAN PAY A PORTION, JUST A SMALLER PORTION AT ABOUT 4,000 FOR THOSE EBOOKS INTERLIBRARY LOAN, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO BORROW FROM OTHER LIBRARIES.
SO BOOKS THAT WE DON'T HAVE OR MATERIALS WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BORROW THOSE.
SO BEING ACCREDITED ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT.
UM, IT ALSO, YEAH, THE GRANT FUNDING AND ALSO WITH THE TEXTURE DATABASES, THEY PROVIDE JUST A WEALTH OF INFORMATION, THE STRATEGIC PLANNING, IT GIVES YOU ALL THE GUIDELINES TO DO.
THEY, WE HAVE A HUGE CONVENTION EVERY, UM, APRIL FOR THE TEXAS LIBRARY ASSOCIATION WHERE YOU CAN GET ALL OF YOUR HOURS IN THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO SO.
AND IT ALSO HELPS OUT BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE ACCOUNTABLE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED AND THE STANDARDS ARE THERE FOR THAT TO SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHETHER YOU HAVE A WEBSITE, YOU NEED A COPY OF YOUR, HOW MANY COMPUTERS YOU NEED THIS MANY HOURS OPEN THIS MANY IN YOUR COLLECTION AND THEREFORE, OKAY, WELL, I WISH ALL OF OUR ASK OR IS IT INEXPENSIVE? IS THIS ONE, WOULD THIS, WOULD THIS POSITION BE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH FEMA IN THAT PARTICULAR? I DON'T WELL ON THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST THIS POSITION.
YOU'RE ASKING THAT FOR, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, OTHER WORDS COULD YOU, COULD YOU, COULD YOU, UH, WITH ANY KIND OF, UH, TO SINCERITY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU SAY THAT THIS POSITION IS BEING ADDED BECAUSE OF COVID AND SOME CIRCUMSTANCES? I THINK I COULD, THAT PARTICULAR ONE GRANT FOR THE STATE LIBRARY WAS, UH, WAS, UM, FOCUSED ON, UM, DIGITAL, UM, BRIDGING THAT DIGITAL DIVIDE, UM, UH, THAT ONE IS ALREADY DONE, BUT THROUGH COVID OTHER GRANTS AND THINGS, YOU MEAN, AS FAR AS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECEIVED COVID MONEY, UM, FROM WE'VE RECEIVED COVERED MONEY.
AND, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THIS, UH, DISASTER DECORATION AND THE CHOICE IN THE SHORT TERM AND THE SHORT TERM, THIS COVID, SINCE THIS IS A, UH, IF THIS IS ABOVE AND PART OF BIG, PART OF THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT COVERT CONDITIONS WE COULD USE, SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING, WE'VE GOT MONEY IN THE BANK, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PUT JUSTIFICATIONS TO SPEND IT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT TOO.
THERE'S OTHER MONEY OUT THERE IN GRANTS AND I'M SEEKING FOR THOSE MOBILE HOTSPOTS FOR THE ACTUAL, UM, CHECK THEM OUT AND THERE'S A POPULATION FOR THAT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BRING THEIR KIDS THERE TO DO THEIR WORK.
SO THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE PART OF THE COVID AS WELL.
AND ALSO WITH THE SPACING, BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM EVERYWHERE ALL OVER THE LIBRARIAN IN THE MEETING ROOM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE SIX FOOT DISTANCING.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO REALLY SPREAD EVERYBODY OUT AND USING THOSE.
SO, I MEAN, WE COULD WORD IT THAT WAY.
WE'LL WAIT AND SEE IF IT, IT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE QUESTION FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, YEAH, NO, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LEGITIMATE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE LOSS OF SCHOOL TIME, THE NEED FOR ONLINE LEARNING AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT THOSE ALL SEEM LEGITIMATE OUTFLOWS OF, OF THE CODE OUTSIDE OF THIS SPECIFIC DISCUSSION, I GUESS THAT'D BE SOMETHING MAYBE YOU COULD BE THINKING ABOUT IS WHAT OTHER ADDITIONAL COSTS ARE YOU INCURRING OR WOULD YOU NEED TO OCCUR? LIKE, I MEAN, DO YOU NEED, UH, DO YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO UPGRADE YOUR INTERNET SPEED BECAUSE, AND I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY EASY TO LAY THAT OFF ON THE COVEN SITUATION.
SO, AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ELIGIBLE.
UM, SO THEY COULD QUALIFY THAT.
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YEAH.SO YEAH, AND THE GRANT THAT'S PENDING DOES ADDRESS SOME OF THAT, OF, OF HOW MUCH BANDWIDTH WITHIN WE, THE LIBRARIES ON ONE RING FOR THEIR WIFI.
AND IT DOES REALLY WELL, BUT TO INCREASE THAT FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SERVING NOW, BECAUSE THERE'S ZOOMING THROUGH UPLOADING AND DOWNLOADING THOSE VIDEOS, THEIR GO TO MEETINGS.
SO TO HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THERE DOING IT, I THINK WE DO REALLY WELL WHEN YOU START GETTING OUTSIDE OF KAUFFMAN AND AREAS WHERE THERE IS NOT GOOD INTERNET SERVICE STILL.
DO YOU REALIZE WHAT'S GETTING READY TO HAPPEN? SCHOOL'S GETTING READY TO START WHEN SCHOOL STARTS, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE LOAD ON THAT LIBRARY CONSIDERABLY.
AND NICOLE, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE HIM.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS 50% OF THIS IS GOING TO BE ONLINE LEARNING THOSE, THOSE KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE INTERNET ARE GOING TO NEED THAT LIBRARY FOR THERE, FOR SUPPORT EXTRA, SHE'S ASKING FOR, FOR THAT PART TIME PERSON WILL INCREASE THE TRANSFER OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO HER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE FUND MOST.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT DIFFERENCE.
WRITE CODE IF WITH YOUR COVID NUMBER.
SO REALLY IF THE POSITION THE IN, AND I'M REALLY CONFIDENT THAT THAT GRANT WILL COME THROUGH, WE'LL ADDRESS THE, UM, BUMPING THE INTERNET SPEED UP AND FOR THE COMPUTERS.
I MEAN, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF WE ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT QUALIFIES FOR ON OUR SIDE TO DO IT AS WELL AND DO MORE, BUT HOPEFULLY, UM, THAT WILL COVER SOME OF THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY, IS THE GRANT GOING TO PAY FOR IT? WILL THE BUMP, THE INTERNET SPEED, THE WIRELESS UP? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE EIGHT TO EIGHT TO, I THINK, 16 TOTAL OF LAPTOPS AND PERMANENT, MAYBE SOME SMALLER SIZE OF DESKTOPS.
SO THE WA THE, THE LAPTOPS ARE WORKING WELL BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO PUSH, PUT THEM DIFFERENT PLACES, AND THEN THEY CAN JUST WIRELESS PRINT.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR PRINTER NOW, OUR WEATHER'S PRINTER WHERE IT'LL ACTUALLY REACH IN THE PARKING LOT SO THEY CAN PRINT AND THEN WE CAN, THEY CAN JUST COME IN AND GET IT.
SO, YES, SO THAT GRANT COVERS ALL OF THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T COVER AS LIKE THE PERSONNEL.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS POSITION AS WELL, TOO, AS FAR IN A OTHERWISE JUST THE, UM, JUST KEEPING UP AND HELPING US TEACH THE CLASSES.
WE ROLLED OUT SOME NEW, UM, DUE TO COVID AS WELL, TOO.
SO LIKE DOWNLOADABLE EBOOKS, SOME CONTENT ON THERE FOR READING ALONG AND SOME GRAPHICS AND MAGAZINES FOR, BECAUSE DURING THOSE THREE MONTHS, WHEN WE WERE CLOSED, THE, OUR LIBRARY CARDS WERE STILL AT THE MAINTAINING.
WE STILL DID OVER 350 NEW LIBRARY CARDS FOR PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THE LIBRARY SERVICES.
WE'RE A LITTLE OVERWHELMED NOW BECAUSE WE ARE OPEN IN SOME OF THE OTHER LIBRARIES ARE NOT OPEN.
SO THAT'S WHY OUR HOURS ARE STILL MODIFIED BECAUSE WE'RE OPEN TO FOUR.
AND SO IN THE MORNINGS, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY BUSY AND THE COMPUTERS ARE FULL AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING AT IT.
SO NOW WE CAN HANDLE IT, WE CAN HANDLE IT NOW, BUT IF WE START ADDING A FEW MAILERS, WE NEED THIS OTHER PERSON TICK IN WITH HELPING US BECAUSE WE'RE QUARANTINING THE BOOKS FOR 72 HOURS, THEN WE'RE SANITIZING THEM.
WE'RE PUTTING THEM BACK ON THE SHELF.
SO THAT TAKES THOSE TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING, GETTING READY FOR THAT.
BUT, UM, IN OUR SUMMER PROGRAM WITH THE GRAB AND GO HAS GONE REALLY WELL.
UM, WE ARE SEEING ABOUT 350 KIDS COMING THROUGH GETTING THEIR BOOKS, THEIR CRAFT BAGS, AND DOUBLE THAT WITH A CRAFT BACK.
SO, YEAH, SO IT'S GOING REALLY GOOD.
ANYBODY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTRA POSITION? ADDING THAT PART TIME POSITION? OKAY, GOOD, EVERYBODY.
WE GO FROM LIBRARY TO JOHNNY WHITE.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THEIR REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TODAY.
REAL QUICK, JUST SO YOU GUYS THANK YOU, SIR.
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RIGHT.UH, THE FIRST IS JUST, JUST MY MONTHLY SUMMARY REPORT THAT I SEND OUT EVERY MONTH.
THAT'S THE CASE, A LITTLE BREAKDOWN, UH, THROUGH JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER PROPOSED BUDGET THAT I SENT IN.
I'M ASKING FOR A, ANOTHER POSITION FOR AN INTAKE CLERK.
UM, I TALKED TO JUDGE WILEY ABOUT IT.
SHE'S AGREED TO FUND HALF THAT POSITION PLUS THE BENEFITS FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
UM, AND WHEN I TALKED TO THEM, THEY SAID THAT 36,000 WAS ABOUT YOUR MINIMUM STARTING, OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE COULD PUT A, PUT A CLERK.
UM, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 15 NEW CASES A WEEK.
UM, WE STARTED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 18 IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD 57 INDIVIDUALS ON SUPERVISION.
UH, I LOOKED THIS MORNING, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE 43.
UH, SO THAT'S, UH, INCREASE IF I DID MY MATH RIGHT.
OF ABOUT 502% OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, AND IT'S JUST GETTING KINDA, KINDA OVERWHELMING.
WE HIRED KATIE, MY ASSISTANT BACK, UH, LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, UM, AND SHE'S HELPED DRAMATICALLY.
UM, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH.
AND I, AND I PREDICT BY THIS TIME LAST YEAR, IT'LL BE EVEN, UH, EVEN MORE.
UM, SO WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS HIRE THAT CLERK TO DO THE INTAKE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, GET THE FILES TOGETHER.
IT TAKES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME EACH WEEK JUST TO TRACK PEOPLE DOWN AND THE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OUT OF JAIL, TRACK THEM DOWN, GET THEM SCHEDULED FOR HIM, TAKES GET THEM IN, GET THE FILES TOGETHER, PUT THAT, YOU KNOW, DATA ENTRY AND ALL THAT.
UH, SO MY GOAL IS TO MOVE HER MORE, TO ASSIST WITH SUPERVISING THE MISDEMEANOR CASES I'M GOING TO SUPERVISE, UH, THE FELONY CASES.
UH, SHE HAS GONE BACK TO SCHOOL.
SHE'S WROTE IN HER OLD BACK AT SAM HOUSTON.
SHE HAS A ASSOCIATES RIGHT NOW.
SHE'S GOING TO GET HER BACHELOR'S SHE'S BACK ON THAT PLAN.
UH, SO I THINK WITH THAT, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MY TRAINING, HER ASSISTING HER OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'LL, WE'LL BE A LOT BETTER OFF.
UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST PRETTY OVERWHELMING.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN.
UH, THE COURTS ARE LETTING MORE AND MORE OUT, UH, WITH PR BONDS THAT, THAT HAD BEEN THERE 90 DAYS, OR LETTING MORE OUT WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN SICK, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEM OUT.
AND THEY'RE USING US AS A TOOL TO HELP SUPERVISE THOSE FOLKS TILL THEY GET THEM TO THE COURT AND GET THEIR CASES ADJUDICATED.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY, UH, I HAVE THE POSITION, THE EXTRA POSITION THAT I'M ASKING FOR.
AND AGAIN, THE DA SAID THAT SHE WOULD FUND HALF OF IT FOR THE FIRST YEAR, UH, PLUS THE BENEFITS.
UM, AND THEN I ASKED FOR A LITTLE RAISE FOR MYSELF AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, THIS THING HAS MORPHED AND GROWN CONSIDERABLY.
UM, AND NOW IF, IF I GET THIS PERSON, I'LL BE ACTUALLY SUPERVISING TWO PEOPLE, I'M ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A DEPARTMENT HEAD, I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
THEY CALLED ME AND SAID, SINCE I HAD AN ASSISTANT, I'M SUPERVISING SOMEONE, I COULDN'T GET COMP TIME ANYMORE.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF WENT AWAY.
UM, I'M WORKING USUALLY NINE HOURS A DAY, SOMETIMES 10.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I PUT THAT IN THERE.
THAT'S JUST FOR Y'ALLS, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE IF I COULD GET IT, IF NOT, THEN WE'LL MARCH ON.
UH, BUT, UM, JOHNNY SAY AGAIN, YOUR CASE VOLUME INCREASE FROM WHEN YOU STARTED TO THEM.
WHEN I STARTED, IT WAS OCTOBER OF 18, WE HAD 57 WHEN I, MY FIRST MONTH.
UH, AND NOW WE'RE AT THREE 43 AND THAT'S, IF I DID MY MATH, RIGHT, THAT'S ABOUT 500% HUGE.
THE AVERAGE CASE LOAD ON A, ON A PROBATION, REGULAR PROBATION OFFICER, I THINK IS ABOUT 110, 115.
UM, THEY'RE INDIRECT CASES ARE CONSIDERABLE MORE, BUT THEY'RE BEING SUPERVISED BY ANOTHER COUNTY.
AND, AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SHUFFLING PAPERWORK.
UH, I THINK THAT NUMBER'S AROUND 300 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LANCE, AND I'M NOT SURE, BUT, UH, THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL THEY'RE MEETING WITH FOLKS, I THINK THEY'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 110, 115 ON HER CASE LOADS.
KAREN, WHAT FUND WOULD THE DA BE USING FOR THAT? DO YOU KNOW? PROBABLY, UM, ONE OF HER EXTRA FUNDS, LIKE SHE ALREADY PAYS HALF OF THE POSITION THAT HIS ASSISTANT THIS YEAR, IT WOULD BE COMING FROM HIRING A SEPARATE CHECK.
WOULD WE BUILD ON HER? YEAH, IT WAS A, YOU DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY, WHICH WAS A PRETRIAL DIVERSION FUND.
I THINK THAT WAS WHAT SHE HAD THAT SHE SAID SHE HAD SOME MONEY LEFT.
I THINK IT'S ON SIX 30, FIVE, 30, THREE 33.
UH, AND THE OTHER, THE ONLY OTHER MAJOR CHANGE GUYS IS THE, UM, THE DRUG TESTING KITS, WHICH IS AN ENORMOUS COST.
UM, PROBATION HAS BEEN VERY, UM, KIND, UH, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF STEALING FROM THEIR STOCK.
I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AND LANCE HAS BEEN OKAY WITH IT CAUSE YOU KNOW, HE'S TRYING TO HELP US.
UM, BUT THAT WE CAN'T KEEP DOING
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THAT.THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS COST.
UH, I THINK WE CHARGE, WE CHARGE $15 AND IT COSTS SEVEN 50 A TEST AND WE'RE AVERAGING BETWEEN 55 AND 60 A MONTH.
AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE TO SEND THEM OFF FOR CONFIRMATION, THAT'S ANOTHER $30.
UM, SO I HAVE ORDERED SOME, UM, I'VE ORDERED SOME RECENTLY, BUT WE'RE ABOUT OUT AGAIN.
UH, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME MORE ORDERED.
UH, AND HE AND I TALKED AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S WILLING TO HELP ANY WAY HE CAN, BUT HE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, HE JUST CAN'T KEEP RIDING OFF, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, AND THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER BIG, BIG CHANGE, UM, OTHER THAN COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, OF COURSE.
UH, AND SOME OFFICE FURNITURE, IF THE NEW POSITION POSITIONS APPROVED AS FAR AS FUNDS, UH, I THINK WE'RE AT 31,000 THAT WE COLLECTED SINCE OCTOBER.
UH, THE LAST TWO MONTHS HAVE BEEN VERY, UH, HAS HIT US PRETTY HARD.
UM, I THINK IN, UH, APRIL, UH, WE COLLECTED LIKE $980 MAY.
IT WAS AROUND A THOUSAND, UH, JUNE IS WHEN I STARTED MEETING BACK WITH FOLKS IN OFFICE, GETTING THEM IN SANITIZING, CLEANING, MASS SEPARATION, ALL THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE DEAL, ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY.
YEAH, YOU ARE COMING TO SEE ME.
UH, WE, WE COLLECTED $6,400 LAST MONTH.
OURS IS NOT KINDA SET UP LIKE PROBATION, WHERE THEY HAVE AN AUTOMATIC THING.
UM, OURS, I HAVE TO PHYSICALLY SEE THEM OR THEY HAVE TO MAIL IT IN OR COME TO THE COURTHOUSE AND PAY IT.
SO IF I'M NOT MEETING WITH THEM FOLKS, THEY'RE NOT PAYING.
SO, UM, SO THAT, THAT NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT SKEWED, BUT HOPEFULLY BY, BY OCTOBER, BY YEAR END, WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER 10,000 I HOPE, UH, UH, IN THERE.
AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, WHEN I WAS BEFORE YOU GUYS, WE, UH, Y'ALL APPROVED FOR THOSE FEES THAT WEREN'T PAID WHEN THEY ADJUDICATE THEIR CASE, WHETHER THEY GET PROBATION OR WHATEVER, THAT THEY ROLL, THOSE DELINQUENT FEES INTO THEIR COURT COSTS.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT I'VE HAD PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX CASES SINCE WE STARTED.
UM, BUT THAT KIND OF TRICKLES IN, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH WHEN THEY PAY THEIR FEES, IT'LL COME BACK THROUGH, UH, I'VE GOT TO GET WITH MS. KAREN AND, AND FIGURE OUT THAT PROCESS, BUT I KNOW IT'S BEGUN AND STARTED, SO THAT WILL HELP TO, UH, IN THE LONG RUN.
IT MAY TAKE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS BEFORE WE REALLY START SEEING THAT COME BACK THROUGH.
SO, BUT, UH, I'D ENTERTAIN ANY, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAVE, SIR, SINCE, SINCE I STARTED, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, THE DA HAS, HAS FUNDED THE LAST TWO YEARS.
SHE'S FUNDED MY POSITION THE FIRST YEAR.
SHE FUNDED HALF THE POSITION OF MY ASSISTANT THIS PAST YEAR.
AND THEN SHE SAID, SHE'D BE WILLING TO FUND.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER YEAR TO GET, I DON'T EVEN, WE'LL BE CLOSE, WE'LL BE CLOSE TO FUNDING IT THROUGH STRICTLY FEES.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MET LAST TIME WE WERE CHARGING 20 A WEEK AND WE DOUBLED IT.
SO MY GOAL IS IN ANOTHER YEAR IS TO GO TO 60, LIKE PROBATION.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO HIT THEM ALL UP ALL UP FRONT.
CAUSE WE GOTTA REALIZE THESE FOLKS ARE STILL INNOCENT.
DO YOU WANT TO GO TO COURT AND FOUND GUILTY? IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN PROBATION THEY'VE BEEN CONVICTED OR THEY'VE SIGNED THE PLEA.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE FOLKS, THEY DO GET TO THAT POINT, THEY GET NO, BE OLDER.
THEY THROW IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S EFFICIENT EVIDENCE OR WHATEVER.
IT'S NOT, NOT A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE, PROBABLY 95% OF THEM WOUND UP PLEADING THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, GETTING SOME, SOME SANCTIONS OUT OF IT.
BUT, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO HIT IT ALL ALL AT ONCE.
I WANTED TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GRADUALLY DO IT.
THAT WAS MY, MY THINKING ANYWAY.
SO REGARDING THE ADDITION OF A POSITION, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
UH, WELL YOUR CASE LOAD IS A COMPELLING ARGUMENT, THAT POSITION, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONGTERM PROBABLY GOING TO END UP GENERATING SOME ADDITIONAL FEES.
WELL, YOU'RE PROBABLY JUST, YOU'RE GOOD.
PROBABLY BE IN A GROWTH GROWTH MODE FOR A WHILE, JOHNNY SO FAIR.
AND YOU KNOW, IN THE FIVE TERM PLAN I MET WITH RACHEL AND ALL THOSE, AND I'VE GOT THAT FIVE, FIVE YEAR PLAN OUT, UH, FOR ANOTHER PERSON PROBABLY BY THE END.
BUT I WOULD THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
WELL, AND THIS IS THE TREND THOUGH, RIGHT? I MEAN, YES, SIR.
AND I WAS TALKING TO JUDGE WILEY EARLIER ABOUT SOME, SOME OTHER STUFF THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GET SOME OF THOSE CASES THAT PROBATION OR SUPERVISING NOW THAT'S NOT OFFICIAL, BUT WE WERE TALKING AND I'VE SEE THAT INCREASE AS WELL.
OKAY GENTLEMEN, EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THAT I THINK.
AND YOU'LL HANDLE THE TRANSFER.
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WE'LL JUST PUT IT ALL IN THIS ACCOUNT AND THEN YOU'LL TRANSFER YOUR MONEY REVENUE SIDE.SO HOW WILL YOU COME ON UP GUYS? RIGHT.
WE'LL WAIT ON COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO GET BACK.
UH, SO IF, UH, IF THOSE FEES ARE GOING TO BE THE FACE THAT HE DOESN'T COLLECT, UH, ONCE THEY GET ADJUDICATED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GONNA PUT THAT.
WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT DEBT ON THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT BACK.
SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO HIS ACCOUNT? YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? IT WON'T GO TO HIS ACCOUNT.
IT'LL, IT'LL BE RESCINDED ON THE REVENUE SIDE THROUGH THE COLLECTIONS, BUT WILL HE BE ABLE TO TRACK AND BE ABLE TO, TO SEE, I WONDER HOW, HOW HE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO VERIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, JOHN, WHO WAS IN HIS WAS IN HIS CASE LOAD AND JOHN GOT ADJUDICATED AND NOW HE'S ON PROBATION AND, AND THOSE FEES THAT HE DIDN'T PAY, JOHNNY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE, ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING BACK TO JOHN, BUT OR TO OUR JONI.
SO I WONDER HOW THAT'LL EVER BE TRACKED.
IT DEPENDS ON WHO'S COLLECTING IT.
RIGHT? BIG COLLECTIONS IS SO IT BE AN ODYSSEY ON THEIR PACES.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY GO TO ADULT PROBATION, THEY HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT SYSTEM WHERE THEY COLLECT FEES.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE.
CAUSE IT IS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM QUESTION TO ASK JOHNNY HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
WELL, I WOULD THINK HE WOULD WANT TO KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE THAT IS.
ROLLING THOSE OVER TO ADULT PROBATION.
ARE YOU DOING DESERT? RIGHT? GOOD.
WE CAN KEEP CONSTANT AWAKE OVER THERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE PAGE THEY'RE LOOKING.
IF YOU WANT TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT UP.
IF YOU'RE ENJOYING THIS, YOU CAN JUST TAKE MY PLATE.
DESERET, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS YOUR REQUEST.
REALLY ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS JUST A REQUEST FOR EXTRA POSITIONS.
WE KIND OF A COUPLE OF TIMES HAVE DRIFTED OFF SUBJECT, BUT, UH, SO YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT WHY YOU NEED AN EXPOSITION AND WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE.
SO, UM, MY EXTRA, UH, POSITION WOULD BE, SO BASICALLY WHAT I DO, I DO THINGS, THE COORDINATOR, DIRECTOR, AND A CLERK.
SO I'M THIS WAY I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS MORE ON MY DIRECTORS, UM, POSITION THAT IS BEING ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DOCTORS, BEING ABLE TO DO CONTRACTS, BEING ABLE TO GO IN THE COMMUNITY, SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT INDIGENT HEALTHCARE THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO BECAUSE I'M SO OVERWHELMED WITH DOING EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, MY GOAL IS EVENTUALLY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE DIRECTORS POSITION, A COORDINATOR'S POSITION AND A CLERK'S POSITION, SO THAT ALL CAN BE, SO Y'ALL ALWAYS ASKED ME, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THEY BE DOING? YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, UM, I ENTERED THE PHONES.
I, UM, WHEN THE CLIENT COMES IN, I HAVE TO, I TALK TO A CLIENT, I INTERVIEW A CLIENT, UM, AGAIN ON NEGOTIATE WITH THE DOCTORS I TALKED TO, UM, UH, DO CONTRACTS.
I DEAL WITH THE, UH, ATTORNEYS, UM, UH, DEAL WITH Y'ALL.
UM, JUST IN THIS WAY, I WOULD BE ABLE TO FOCUS MORE ON WHAT I NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON AND THEN I CAN HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS FOR ME TO SET UP APPOINTMENTS, THE ANSWERS, THE PHONE, UM, TO GET MY SCHEDULE IN ORDER.
AND, UM, SO THAT WAY I CAN FOCUS ON WHAT I NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON.
UH, TALK ABOUT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT.
DID I SAY SOMETHING? NO, NO, NOT BAD LANGUAGE THAT YEAR.
WHAT? YOU TALKED TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HOPING TO GET A PERSON THAT'S BILINGUAL.
UM, SO THE PERSON THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, I WANT THEM TO BE, I WOULD LOCK ON TO BEING BILINGUAL.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN MIND, UM, THAT I WOULD LOCK IN THIS POSITION.
UM, ONE PERSON IS, DOES WORK HERE, UM, AND I'VE KIND OF SEE THEIR SKILLS OVER THE YEARS AND THEY ARE VERY DEDICATED EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND I THINK SHE WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT.
THE ONLY THING IS, IS SHE DOESN'T MAKE A CLERK SALARY AND I'D HATE TO ASK HER TO COME DOWN TO THAT POSITION.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN NEGOTIATE ON IF POSSIBLE, IF WE DO
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GO THAT DIRECTION.UM, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER YOUNG LADY THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TWO ON THE OUTSIDE, UM, THAT I KNOW THAT, THAT SHE'S PRETTY RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENT OF YOUR, YOUR CLIENTS ARE EXPANDING SPEAKERS.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO SAY PROBABLY 50% OF MY CLIENTS ARE HISPANIC.
AND IT'S NOT ENGLISH SPEAKERS.
UM, THEY USUALLY HAVE TO BRING THEIR OWN INTERPRETERS.
UM, I USED TO ASK, UM, THE TAX OFFICE TO SPEAK FOR ME, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT THEY GO AWAY FROM THEIR JOB TO HELP ME.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I'M ASKING FOR SOMEONE BILINGUAL.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO PULL FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT JUST TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY FOR ME.
I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE ABOUT SHE HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE.
I THINK THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEED THAT IS THERE.
YOU REALLY NEED SOMEBODY SOMETHING, IF YOU GO AWAY TOMORROW.
WELL THAT, YEAH, I CAN FAIL THIS POSITION.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYBODY TRAINED.
IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO HELP YOU OUT WHERE TO PUT THE BURDEN ON HERSELF, BAD DOWN THE ROAD.
I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT A FEW YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF MY HEALTH, BUT I'VE GOT ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD TO GO.
UM, I STILL FEEL LIKE I'M YOUNG CAUSE I AM UP FOR RETIREMENT AND CUTE COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, BUT I'M, UM, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE, BUT I DO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VACATION TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW I HAVE FOUR WEEKS, I, YOU KNOW, UM, SO IT'S GOTTA BE USED BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR I'LL LOSE IT AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE IT.
WELL, ANYBODY HAVING, I THINK, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A CLEAR ONE.
AND WHAT'S THE TITLE OF HIS POSITION THAT YOU'RE ASKING THIS ONE'S JUST A CLERK.
EVENTUALLY I DO WANT TO MOVE HER UP INTO A COORDINATOR'S POSITION AND THEN GET A CLERK.
I'M JUST GOING TO SUGGEST TO YOU THAT MAYBE ON AN ADVANCE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT TIMELINE BECAUSE AS, AS KEY POINTS OUT, IT SAYS, YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE IN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER HAPPENED FOR WHATEVER REASON VACATION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE YOUR VACATION.
AND THIS DEPARTMENT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR WORKLOAD INCREASES, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S PROBABLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF OFFICERS THAT NEED BILINGUAL ASSISTANCE.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT WE MIGHT JUST CONSIDER FOR THE SMALL AMOUNT OF ADDED COSTS JUST RATHER THAN MAKING THIS A CLERK ALMOST TO FOLLOW WHAT THE JUDGE SAID WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU JUST NEED A DEPUTY, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD OR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
THE SALARY IS REFLECTIVE, NOT OF THE CLERK.
SEE WHAT ELSE IS IN THAT SALARY? MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BAKED INTO THAT AS WELL.
I HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY OTHER NOTES, MAKE SURE I DID NOT ADD BENEFITS.
I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT MY SALARY IS MORE THAN A CLERK'S SALARY VERSUS SALARY.
WELL, SO WHEN I REACHED OUT TO, UM, HUMAN RE HUMAN RESOURCE, SHE TOLD ME IT WAS 34, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
UM, ACTUALLY I DO IT'S UH, WITH HER, DO YOU HAVE ANY, IT'S LIKE 36.
SO THIS, SO 44, LIKE IT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.
SO I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT NOT HIRING A CLERK, BUT YOU KNOW, AN ASSISTANT OR WHATEVER THE RIGHT TITLE WOULD BE AND WORRIED ABOUT YOU CLERK NEXT YEAR OR WHENEVER.
THAT WOULD HELP ME OUT A WHOLE LOT.
AND THAT WAY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TARGET THE EXACT PERSON YOU NEED, WHICH WOULD SHORTEN YOUR TRAINING CYCLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT HURT MY FEELINGS IF, IF WE HAVE THE MONEY SOMEWHERE IN THIS, BUT IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON THE COURT TO AMEND IT AND MAYBE EVEN HIRE THE PERSON BEFORE THE NEW YEAR.
WELL YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORKING ON THE SPACE THING.
BUT I'M ONLY WORKING FOR TWO PEOPLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'VE ALREADY GOT THAT WORKING ON IN MY OFFICE.
UM, UM, I'VE TALKED TO, UM, BOB OVER AT UH BERMAN'S.
AND HE'S COMING, HE'S GAVE ME A QUOTE ON HOW TO SEPARATE THE OFFICE AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO FACILITIES ABOUT DOING A, UH, LIKE A HALF WALL AND
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MAYBE A HALF DOOR.YOU, YOU REALLY NEED SOME KIND OF LIKE HIPAA PROTECTION AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE GOING WITH THE HALF DOOR BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST WALK INTO MY OFFICE WHEN I HAVE SOMEBODY IN THERE.
AND IT'S NOT VERY WELL PROTECTIVE AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT FACILITIES DIDN'T GET BACK WITH ME BECAUSE UM, THINGS HAPPENED AND THEY, OKAY.
SO WHAT'S THE BASE YOU'RE WOUND TO START THIS PERSON.
UH, SO DEPENDING ON IF WE CAN GET THE ONE THAT WORKS HERE ALREADY, UM, THE OTHER ONE 34, ONE 14, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE CURRENT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
SO SHE GAVE ME A NUMBER THE OTHER DAY WITH HER LONGEVITY.
SO THIS, THIS 44, THIS 44 FIVE COVERS THAT.
I'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT BASE NUMBER TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
WELL, I'LL GET, CAN I I'LL GET WITH HR TO GET THE CORRECT NUMBER, UM, ON WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE I'VE JUST BEEN TALKING TO THIS INDIVIDUAL PERSON AND YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO HR OR OKAY.
WELL THEN I'LL COME TO YOU AND WE'LL GET IT TAKEN CARE OF IT SOUNDS GREAT.
WE'RE SQUARED AWAY LIKE HE DOES.
IT WOULDN'T HURT IF YOU, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD USE HER NAME? YOU'RE UP CONSTABLE, PUT IT ON THE COURT.
AND WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE THE MONEY.
I'M SAYING DON'T, DON'T JUST BE LIMITED THOUGH.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
I'D BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE BASED ENVIRONMENT, MEANING NOT MANY PEOPLE, NOT MANY PEOPLE.
SHE'S A LITTLE HARD WHEN SHE'S DOING, OH, THEY SPEAK FOR THIS OR WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON JURY? UM, WHAT'S PAGE NUMBER ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR PAGE RIGHT THERE, SEAN? UH, 2121.
SO SEAN, WHAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS REQUESTS FOR ADDING POSITIONS.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING OTHER THAN A FEW YEARS OF PART TIME MONEY, THE PRECINCT ONE OFFICE HAS NOT GROWN IN PERSONNEL SINCE OCTOBER ONE OF 2006.
AND THAT'S WHEN I BECAME THE FIRST DEPUTY, THE NEEDS, THE DEMANDS HAVE GROWN JUST LIKE THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS AND IT'S ALL THE SAME NEEDS AND DEMANDS, BUT YET WE'VE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO GROW AND WE'VE ASKED, BUT WHAT I'M NEEDING, I NOTICED THERE, I TALKED TO OTHER PRECINCTS EXCEPT FOR JJ WITH HIS SMILE BATTALION.
UM, WE ARE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PERSONNEL BEHIND FOUR AND THREE.
UM, I'M NOT ASKING TO BE BROUGHT UP TO BE EVEN, BUT JUST THE ADDITION OF A DEPUTY AND A CLERK WOULD BENEFIT OUR OFFICE GREATLY AND THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT IS THE SHORTAGE IN YOUR WORKLOAD AND WHAT IS IT THAT YOU, THAT YOU'D BE DOING WITH THE EXTRA HELP THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING NOW? WELL, WITH MY JUDGE, WE PROBABLY GOT THE BUSIEST JP COURT.
SO WE'RE IN COURT A LOT, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT OUT ABLE TO DO OUR CIVIL PROCESS, MOVE OUTS, EVEN PATROL.
CAUSE I MEAN, WHEN IT GETS RIGHT DOWN TO IT AS A TAXPAYER, THEY COULD CARE LESS HOW MUCH CIVIL PROCESS IN COURT.
THEY WANT TO SEE THESE VEHICLES GOING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT THEY PAID FOR THEM FOR.
AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK SINCE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HOME ON THE QUARANTINE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING TO SEE US OUT THERE.
AND HE'S ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY APPRECIATE SEEING US OUT THERE HELPING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE PDS.
AND WE'VE ALL GOT OUR SPECIALTIES, BUT WE'RE JUST ALL SPOKES IN THE SAME WHEEL.
WHAT'S YOUR STAFF NOW, ME AND ONE DEPUTY AND NO CLERK, NO CLERK.
WHAT I WAS WANTING TO DO YOU DO THE CLERKING OR JUST SOME WHO DOES THE CLERK? DANIEL AND I BOTH DID IT.
UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SINCE I'VE GOT THE 30,000 IN THERE FOR THE PART TIME, THE FIGURES THAT I GOT FROM HR FOR A CLERK, IT WOULD ONLY BE A LITTLE BIT OVER, I THINK, 10,000 TO ADD TO THAT, TO MAKE A FULL TIME CLERK AND JUST NOT HAVE THE PART TIME MONEY I CAN NEGOTIATE.
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YOUR CLERK WOULD BE 44,000.I MEAN, FIGURES THAT I GOT WITH EVERYTHING FROM HR WAS GOING TO BE AROUND THE 40,000 MARK.
THAT'S WHERE THE BENEFITS
THAT'S ABOUT 50,000 WITH BENEFITS A YEAR.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DEAL OR WERE YOU CLOSE TO THAT? SO SOUND, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD ELIMINATE YOUR EXTRA HELP POSITION IF WE COULD TURN THAT INTO A FULL TIME, FULL TIME.
SO THAT'LL CHANGE THIS MATH A LITTLE BIT.
EITHER CONSTABLES HAVE A PLURK EXCEPT FOR PRECINCT CHEESY.
AND PART OF HERS IS PAID ALL THE CONTRACTS ON DRAG, EXTRA PATROL UNITS.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THREE, BUT VANESSA SAID THAT SHE'S GOT, I THINK TWO PART TIME CLERKS, TWO PART TIME CLERK.
SHE PAYS HIM OUT OF EXTRA HEALTH PART TIME, SO, OKAY.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING THE, AT YOUR, YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS ELIMINATE I THAT EXTRA HELP LINE AND MAKE THAT CLERK REQUEST A FULL TIME POSITION.
AND ONE DEPUTY, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE GOT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IN ALL ACTUALITY, I'M ABOUT FIVE YEARS OR MORE BEHIND EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO THE GROWTH IS COMING AND I'M PLAYING CATCH UP.
NOW WE DON'T MIND WORKING AND I WORKED SIX DAYS A WEEK, SOMETIMES SEVEN, BUT IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE GOT TO HAVE THE HELP.
IT'S NOT A WANT, IT'S A NEED, WE STARTED THE 4,794.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK HE'S PUT IT ON A PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, HE'S DOING, DOING HIS JOB WITH LESS PERSONNEL THAN ANYBODY ELSE IS.
AND UH, I KNOW JUST LISTEN TO PEOPLE TALK, ESPECIALLY AS WE DO ROADS, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL US GRABBING THE BELT, THE SPEEDING, EVERYTHING ELSE TILL WE TELL THEM TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
SO THERE'S MORE AND MORE REQUESTS FOR HIM TO BE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, BUT HE'S DOWN WITH MANPOWER.
SO HIS ENDED UP SERVING ALL THIS STUFF FOR MARY AND THEN STANDING GUARD AT THE COURTHOUSE TOO.
SO WHEN THEY'RE HAVING COURT AND THEY, AND THEY DO, THEY DO WHEN YOU, OF COURSE RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING AS FAR AS COURT WISE, YOU SAID PIPER PAPERLESS STUFF OR WHATEVER.
BUT WHENEVER THEY DO, THEY FILL THE PLACE UP.
I'M IN A PLACE IT'S OVERLOADED.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE A, QUITE A BIT OF WORKLOAD.
AND I MEAN, THE NUMBERS DID GO UP WHEN WE HAD THE PART TIME.
AND THAT WAS REFLECTION, GO BACK TO THE RACIAL PROFILING.
THE NUMBERS INCREASED ONCE I FINALLY GOT HIM IN A SET OF WHEELS AND THAT WAS JUST IN THE SIX MONTHS THAT I RETAINED HIM, BUT I LOST HIM TO PRECINCT THREE BECAUSE I HAD A FULL TIME POSITION.
SO, I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST THINK IT'S JUST TO BE FAIR WITH HIM AND THE WORKLOAD.
AND I THINK HE'S BEEN DOING A LOT WITH A LOT LESS THESE YEARS AND IT'S THE LION'S CHANGING AND THE DIM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AS FAR AS THE LINES AND STUFF.
SO THEY MIGHT BE COVERING MORE TERRITORY.
I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT SKI AND WE GENERATE, WE GENERATE ALMOST AS MUCH REVENUES AS THREES, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE JP COURT.
SO KEN, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S A COMPELLING ARGUMENT.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THERE'S COUNTY CITIZENS ARE SERVED BY EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT GUY THAT'S OUT THERE.
THEN I GUESS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEN JERRY IS, UH, I'VE TAKEN OUT THE, TAKEN OUT THE EXTRA HELPLINE AND THEN, UH, MAKING SURE THE MONEY IS RIGHT FOR THE DEPUTY AND THE, WHAT I'VE GOT WRITTEN HERE IS ONE DEPUTY BASED AT BASE SALARY MOVE, ELIMINATE, EXTRA HELP, MAKE THAT A BASE CLERK AND THEN ADD BENEFITS TO BOTH.
UM, YES, MA'AM I CAN, I CAN VOUCH FOR PRECINCT ONE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR REVENUES ARE HIGHER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN THREE AND FOUR ALWAYS BROUGHT IN THE MOST NUMBER ONE IS
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AHEAD OF THEIR BODY.WELL, IS IT A GOOD INDICATION OR A BAD INDICATION? NO MORE, MORE CAR.
YOU'RE SAYING MORE COURTS BAN.
THE ONLY QUESTION ANY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS IF THERE'S ANY INCIDENTALS THAT THIS CAN'T GO UP MORE BECAUSE HE'S HAVING TO COURT.
SO HE HAD THAT EXTRA PERSON, HIS FEES ARE GOING TO GO UP TOO.
WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? IF THERE'S ANY INCIDENTALS THAT AREN'T CAPTURED HERE BY PUTTING ON A DEPUTY, IS THERE ANY NEEDS IN ORDER ABOUT VEHICLES OR EQUIPMENT OR ANY OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN AS YOU, AS YOU STAB SOMEBODY UP, BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING COVERED.
YOU GOT TO BE BECAUSE YOU HAD THIS STUFF FOR THE OTHER GUY, WOULDN'T HE BE? SURE.
AND, UH, IF THERE IS ANYTHING FOR LIKE OFFICE COMPUTERS THAT EXTRA, OR THAT LINE ITEM THAT I'VE GOT FOR, UH, WE'LL CALL IT NOW, NEW EQUIPMENT.
SO FAST THAT OUT OF THAT, YOU'VE BUMPED UP AMMUNITION A LITTLE BIT.
YOU BUMPED UP A COUPLE OF THEM THINGS IN HERE.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GOT IT ALL CAPTURED.
WE GOTTA PUT SOMEONE IN, YOU HAD TO FUND THEM.
SO YEAH, THE CURRENT OWNER AND PROTESTS MADE HER AMMO GO UP.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU USE SOME OF THAT NEW EQUIPMENT MONEY NOW AND BUY THAT STUFF AHEAD OF TIME.
AND THEN, AND SHOW HIM THE GUY THAT'LL FIT IN ALVIN, GEORGIA BY NOW WHO GO AHEAD.
TRY TO FINALLY YOU DRAW THE UNIFORM AND ALL THE VESTS, AND THEN YOU TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY TO FIT INTO THE MLM.
WE'LL SQUEEZE THE MIC IF WE HAVE TO WE'LL BUY A GIRDLE.
WE'RE KIND OF BACK ON SCHEDULE HERE.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A PAGE REAL QUICK.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BOBBY IS THIS IS WHAT THEIR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS COMBINED THINGS TACKLED INTO THAT.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN OUT WELL, WHEN WE MADE THE BUDGET REQUESTS, WE ASKED NOBODY TO PUT RAISES IN THERE AND CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DID.
SO ALL WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PARKED IN THE RES THE GENERAL RAISE QUESTION TO LATER.
AND JUST LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND, I HAVEN'T HAD CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU.
I REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING HERE ON WHICH SECTION ON THE EXTRA POSITIONS ON THE, JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR TOP FIVE LINES ON THE EXTRA HILL RIGHT THERE.
I'VE GOT A, I PUT 150, $8,080 IN THERE FOR CUSTODIAN.
SO BASICALLY THE PBS COMPANY THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW TO HOUSE HORSE FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL JANITORIAL STAFF THAT WE HAVE AT ALL FOUR SUB COURTHOUSES, THAT'S WHAT OUR TOTAL WOULD COST.
IF WE KEPT THEM FOR A WHOLE YEAR, WE THINK THAT WE THINK THAT WOULD BE, OF COURSE THE COVID THING EXPIRES WHEN THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER EXPIRES.
AND I'VE LOST TRACK OF WHEN THAT IS DECEMBER, DECEMBER.
SO I GUESS OUR PLAN, OUR PLAN WOULD BE THAT IF THAT, IF THEY HAD EXPIRED THAT WE WOULD STOP USING THESE PEOPLE, WELL, I WENT AHEAD AND PUT A PLACE HOLDER IN HERE IN CASE WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO KEEP THEM.
UM, I KNOW THAT OUR JANITORIAL STAFF IS WAY UNDERSTAFFED RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE IN OUR JANITORIAL STAFF.
UM, WHEN SOMEBODY GOES ON VACATION, NORMALLY IT'S A MONTH LONG VACATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GO BACK TO MEXICO AND THEY'LL STAY A MONTH.
UM, TWO OF THEM ARE RELATED, UH, ONE'S A HUSBAND AND A WIFE.
SO WHEN THEY GO, THEY TYPICALLY WANT TO GO TOGETHER, WHICH TAKES US DOWN TO TWO.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, US TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THIS.
UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, IS IF WE COULD, UH,
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IS TO RETAIN EITHER.I DID PUT IN HERE TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL JANITORIAL POSITION.
THAT WAY IT WOULD HELP COVER US.
WHEN SOMEBODY GOES, GO ON VACATION, WE'D HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TO HELP.
BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY AT ALL, THE SUB COURTHOUSES, I MEAN, THEY WERE BEING VERY DETAILED, CLEANED EVERYTHING.
UM, I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO KEEP THEM, UM, AND THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP US OUT.
I'M NOT SAYING BRING THEM ON FULL TIME WITH CALVIN COUNTY, BUT KEEP THEM THROUGH SUBCONTRACT.
WELL I THINK SO THOSE AREN'T POSITIONS.
BUT HE'S GOT IT CHARGED OFF AS EXTRA HELP THERE IT'S REALLY? YEAH.
IT IS A CONTRACT THAT, UH, THAT CONTRACT COST US, UM, 150, 8,000 A YEAR FOR PEOPLE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON THAT CONTRACT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY JANITORS THAT WERE DOWN, WE BROUGHT IN TWO EXTRA.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SIX RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S FOR SIX PEOPLE BASICALLY.
WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR FOUR.
OUR FEE IS $19 AN HOUR ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THEM.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL IN FOR THEM IS $19 AN HOUR THROUGH THE SUBCONTRACT PLACE.
BOBBY ON THIS EXTRA POSITION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN THE CUSTODIAN THING.
MA'AM WE GOT IT AT 32, THE START IS 34 34 ONE ONE FOUR.
THOSE THREE LADIES, IF YOU REMEMBER, BECAUSE OF THAT.
I GUESS PROBABLY THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, I'M JUST TRYING TO DO THE MATH.
AND SO IF I LOOK AT THE FAR LEFT COLUMN, THIS IS YOUR CURRENT BUDGET, SO, AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THIS SUPERVISOR POSITION THAT'S KIND OF LISTED UP HERE AT THIS SALARY OF 52.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S CURRENTLY PART OF THE ONE 66, FOUR 37 IS WHERE IT CURRENTLY SAYS IS CURRENTLY IS THAT'S WHERE IT SITS.
NOW IT'S PART OF THAT ENTIRE ROLL UP OF SALARIES BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT BROKE OUT, BUT THEN I GO TO THE NEXT.
SO WOULD THAT POSITION BE, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE BREAKING IT OUT, DOES THIS ONE 69 NEED TO BE MINUS THE 52 OR NOT? BECAUSE IF IT'S CURRENTLY PART OF WHAT THE ONE 66, IS IT JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CURRENT SALARY AND THE 52 THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED? BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED IS IT'S AN EXTRA 52,000.
SO IT'S JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CURRENT SALARY AND TWO 52.
SO, SO I NEED TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT, CORRECT? IT'S NOT AN EXTRA, IT'S NOT, I GOT YOU.
IT'S NOT ADDITIONAL, IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL FEE.
I'LL JUST TAKE THE CURRENT SALARY.
SO THEN I WOULD JUST BACK OUT THE RAISE REQUEST AND OFF I'LL ADJUST THAT.
SO FIRST OF ALL, IF THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT, THAT 52 IT'D BE MORE LIKE SIX, CORRECT.
I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE SIX, I DON'T KNOW.
CURRENT SALARY IS 46, 46 TO 52.
SO BACK TO THE JANITORIAL, IF, IF WE ARE ABLE TO, TO RETAIN THE CONTRACT WITH THE FOUR JANITORIAL STAFF, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL JANITORIAL TO MINE BECAUSE I COULD ALWAYS USE ONE OF THEM, TOBACCO FIELDS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF SOMEBODY IS ON VACATION, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE WAY WE'VE BEEN REALLY LOOKING AT THIS IS OUR HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, THE COURTHOUSE, THE ANNEX DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING FROM THESE PLACES A LOT, ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
I MEAN STILL HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE A DAY.
SO WE HAVE REALLY FOCUSED HARD ON KEEPING OUR PEOPLE AT THOSE LOCATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAINED ON HOW TO DO THIS, THIS COVID CLEANING.
UM, NOW AT THE SUB COURTHOUSES AND STUFF, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GOT THE PBS PEOPLE OUT THERE WORKING, BUT THEY'RE ALSO IN TRAINING ON HOW TO DO THE SPRAYING.
UM, SO I MEAN YOU'RE AWARE OF THE AIR TANKS THAT WE'VE GOT.
WELL, WE ADDED A SECOND TANK ON YESTERDAY, UM, TO HELP SPEED IT UP BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ALL THIS AFTER HOURS.
SO WHEN THE COURTHOUSE CLOSES, WE COME IN AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND ONE GUY WOULD TAKE HIM, I DON'T KNOW, ALMOST AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS TO DO THE WHOLE COURTHOUSE SPRAYING IT BECAUSE THE TANK WOULD RUN OUT OF AIR.
AND THEN WE HAD TO TAKE HER BACK OVER THERE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FILL IT BACK UP WITH AIR AND BRING IT BACK, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO NOW WE HAVE TWO TANKS GOING AND LAST NIGHT IT TOOK US ABOUT AN HOUR TO DO THE WHOLE COURTHOUSE.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A SCHEDULED MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS AT THE COURTHOUSE TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS IS THE ANNEX.
AND, UM, MY PLAN IS TO START ROLLING THAT OUT TO
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LIKE THE SUB COURTHOUSES TOO, BECAUSE WHEN THEY START OPENING BACK UP, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS SPRAYING AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE, WE COVER ALL THE BASES WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE COME OR HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS.SO AGAIN, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS IF, IF WE ARE ABLE TO RETAIN THE OUTSOURCING OF THOSE FOUR PEOPLE, I DON'T NEED ANOTHER JANITORIAL STAFF THAT WOULD GIVE ME A TOTAL OF EIGHT, YOU KNOW, FOUR FOR EIGHT.
I MEAN, ONE FOR EACH SUB COURTHOUSE, TWO FOR THE COURTHOUSE, AND THEN TWO TRAVELING TO COVER ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEFT, YOU KNOW, ELABORATE.
AND TELL ME AGAIN, THE COST OF THAT ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR FOUR PEOPLE.
THE ANNUAL CONTRACT WOULD BE LIKE ONE 58, 150, $8,080 PRINT JEEP.
WELL, WE'RE PUTTING BOOKS ON OUR, WE HAVE FOUR CUSTODIANS NOW, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
IF WE HAD THE PERSON'S HONOR 77 AND WE PAID 145 LAST YEAR FOR FOUR PEOPLE, FOUR PEOPLE.
SO IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE PAYING ALREADY, BUT I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THIS GOING AWAY.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN IT ALL STARTED, I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.
AND IT STARTED TO GET WORSE NOW, NOW, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO GO AND WHY UNTIL LIKE COME UP WITH A VACCINE OR SOMETHING OR ALL OF US GET IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE.
AND WHOEVER IT, I TRACK A WEEK TO WEEK, MONTH TO MONTH, YEAR TO YEAR, IT'S A IT'S MONTH TO MONTH.
I MEAN, WE CAN CANCEL ANYTIME.
AND OF COURSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER THING IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE, FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, YOU CAN GET RID OF THEM AND GET SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
AS FAR AS THE TECHNICALITY, IF WE DECIDE JUST LIKE, GO AHEAD AND BUDGET FOR KEEPING THE CONTRACT PEOPLE AND WE DON'T HIRE THE EXTRA PERSON.
CAN WE TAKE THAT CONTRACT MONEY AND ROLLED IT OVER INTO A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE AT THAT POINT? OR JUST, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED NOW IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE CAN MODIFY THE BUDGET, RIGHT? KAREN? YUP.
I MEAN, IF I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
YOU MENTIONED THAT IF IT, IF THIS ALL KIND OF WENT AWAY AND EVERYTHING WAS BACK TO NORMAL, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED FULL TIME SERVICES AT ALL.
MAYBE WE ADD ONE OR TWO MORE PEOPLE FROM THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND STILL KEEP, YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE ON BOARD THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF LIKE TERRELL AND 40 AND THEN ONE OF THEM WOULD TAKE CARE OF IN AT LEAST FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
THE COST OF THAT CONTRACT IS COVID REIMBURSABLE, CORRECT? YES.
UNTIL THE DISASTER DECLARATION, WE NEED TO KEEP SEPARATE AND JUST LET THAT PAY FOR IT.
WE DO RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY IT'S CHARGED TO THEM.
I'M AFRAID THAT THE, THE EXTENSION OF THE GOVERNOR'S DEAL IS GOING TO GO IN THE NEXT YEAR, IN TIME, THE END OF THE YEAR IT GETS HERE, IT IT'S RIGHT.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE, WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T EVEN USE THIS MONEY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WOULD BE THERE AS A PLACEHOLDER.
BUT IF IT, IF THE GOVERNOR EXTENDS HIS ORDERS, THEN IT WOULD STILL SHOW UP AS AN EXPENDITURE IN HIS LINE.
HE WOULD JUST BE, WE JUST WOULDN'T TO BE CHARGED TO THE REIMBURSED THOSE.
IT'S STILL GOING TO SHOW UP IN YOUR EXPENSES.
NO, BECAUSE KAREN GAVE US A CODE ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT WE ACTUALLY CHARGED ALL THIS TO.
SO NONE OF US ARE BORN OUT OF YOUR BUDGET.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE CAN KEEP IT IN THERE FOR THEM.
THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS NOT AT A PERMANENT POSITION, BUT MAINTAIN THE CONTRACT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'LL I'LL ADJUST THE SALARY INCREASE REQUESTS ON THE NEXT RUN.
YOU'LL SEE A NEW, A NEW SHEET CLARITY.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING I'LL ADJUST.
SO WHAT YOU SEE UP AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE IS YEAH, WE DONE, BUT I'VE GOT MY NOTES THAT WORKS.
I MEAN, I THINK IF WE, IF WE GO WITH THE CONTRACT, WE DEFINITELY DON'T NEED IT ADDED AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO THE JANITORIAL STAFF.
AND AT THIS TIME I'M NOT ASKING TO ADD ANY MORE STAFF TO THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT EITHER.
UM, ANY MORE FACILITIES TECHNICIANS? NO, MA'AM SOPHIA.
YOU ADDED MORE FOR APPARENTLY COUNTY BUILDINGS.
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I DID BUMP THAT.UM, YES, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT TIME.
YEAH, CAUSE YOU GOT TO REIMBURSE ME NOW.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS REQUESTS FOR ADDING A POSITION.
YOU JUST NEED THE DIFFERENCE AGE 35 AND YOU JUST NEED THE DIFFERENCE.
IT'S SO NICE TO HAVE YOU ON HAND KAREN, TELL US THE PAGE.
IT WAS CAUSE I MADE THAT CRACK ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF ADB AND THE, THE POSITION THAT I'M ASKING FOR AT THIS, UH, AT THIS POINT IS AN ENGINEERING TECH.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE ONE TO ENHANCE MY FIELD PRESENCE ON BOND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, THAT WAY I WON'T NECESSARILY BE IN THE FIELD QUITE AS MUCH, UH, AS I WOULD OTHERWISE.
AND THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF OTHER DUTIES.
WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF THIS BEING A NEW DEPARTMENT, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, ESTABLISH THE DUTIES THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING OUT OF THIS DEPARTMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS SHIFTING THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, ADMINISTRATION TO ENGINEERING, UH, WHICH IS GOOD.
UH, AT CURRENT, UH, MONIQUE HAS TWO INDIVIDUALS, UH, DEALING WITH FLOODPLAIN.
UH, KELLY IS THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, JERRY ASSIST ASSIST HER, PARTICULARLY IN FIELD INVESTIGATIONS, UH, IS THAT BRING THAT THOSE DUTIES INTO MY DEPARTMENT.
I NEED SOMEONE THAT I CAN SEND OUT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS RATHER THAN BEING REACTIVE TO THESE INVESTIGATIONS IS TO BEGIN TO ACTUALLY BE PROACTIVE AND TRY TO, UH, TRY TO ACTUALLY, UH, LOOK FOR VIOLATIONS SO THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THEM AND GET THEM CORRECTED.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO ENHANCE, UH, INVESTIGATIONS INTO COVERT VIOLATIONS.
UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT ACTIVELY DOING THAT.
UM, TALKING ABOUT MAINLY DRIVEWAY CULVERTS, UH, ALSO IS, UH, Y'ALL ARE AWARE I'M WORKING THE COVERT, UH, PERMITS FOR PRECINCT FOR THIS POSITION WOULD, UH, ALLOW ME TO NOT SPEND AS MUCH TIME DOING THAT AND ASSIGNED, UH, THAT INDIVIDUAL TO, TO ASSIST IN THAT.
AND FINALLY, IF THEY HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO DO, WE NEED TO BE COLLECTING DATA, UH, FOR OUR CROSS CULVERTS FOR OUR GIS SYSTEM, BECAUSE OF EVENTUALLY, UM, HOPEFULLY FREESE AND NICHOLS EFFORTS TO GET UP, UH, A MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THIS COUNTY WILL COME TO FRUITION.
AND AT THAT POINT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT DATA, UH, FOR THE MODELS.
AND IF WE START COLLECTING IT ON OUR OWN, THERE'LL BE A WHOLE LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN HIRING FREEZE NICKELS TO COME OUT AND COLLECT THAT DATA FOR US.
WAIT, CROSS CULVER'S DO WE HAVE LIKE NO MILLION OR WHAT, WHEN IT'S NOT A MILLION, BUT IT'S A LOT, IT'S A BUNCH I HAVE, I HAVE A LOT JUST IN MY HEAD.
WELL OF COURSE THAT DATA THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST CONTENT THE COMMISSIONERS.
AND WE'LL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU, WE CAN TELL YOU HOW, HOW MANY CROSS COVERS WE HAVE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AS FAR AS THE DATA, AS FAR AS I CAN CROSS OFF, I MEAN, I HAVE THOUSANDS ACROSS COVERS, BUT I DON'T.
I MEAN, OUR ROAD, OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN SO OVERWHELMED FOR SO LONG THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO GO OUT AND FIND THEM.
UH, WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE ALL THE CROSS CULVERTS ARE IN THAT PRECINCT.
THERE NEVER BEEN ANY TRACKING.
THERE WAS NO SYSTEM WHATSOEVER TO RECORD WHEN A NEW COVER GOT PUT IN OR EVEN ONE REPLACED.
SO WE HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, BUT YOU HAVE TO, BUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT G G I S MARKING THESE OVERS? NOT JUST WHERE IT LOCATED, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE A, YOU GOTTA HAVE A LAUNCH TO LAUNCH.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M ASKING FOR A CRIMINAL UNIT, UH, IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, UH, SO THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN ACTUALLY PINPOINT IT SO THAT WE CAN DROP IT INTO THE GIS SYSTEM.
UH, THEY CAN CHECK THE DIAMETER OF THE COVER, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ESTABLISH THAT EVEN MATERIALS, THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN KEEP
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IN THE GIS SYSTEM IS ONLY LIMITED BY OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN IT.UH, WE COULD EVEN HAVE LIKE DATES AND WHEN CULVERTS WERE INSTALLED, IF WE KNOW THEM.
SO WHAT WERE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A PERSONAL LINKEDIN? I WOULD WANT SOME, UH, WITH SOME EXPERIENCE, UH, PREFERABLY IN CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, AS WELL AS, UH, UH, GENERAL ENGINEERING, UM, BACKGROUND, NOT NECESSARILY A, UH, NOT AN EIT, NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT SOMEONE THAT, UH, UH, HAS SOME BACKGROUND IN, UH, GEA, HOPEFULLY GIS AND IN, UM, DATA COLLECTION AND IN, UH, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS, UH, TO A LIMIT, TO THE EXTENT THERE'S SOME KIND OF CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EXCELLENT KNEW WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AND COULDN'T DO BLUEPRINTS.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A NEW DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, I S I FORESEE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO EXPAND AND HAVE MORE DUTIES COVERED BY THIS DEPARTMENT.
UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, UH, BE ABLE TO BE LESS DEPENDENT ON LIKE TECHNO AND PERKINS AND, UH, SOME OF OUR OTHER CONSULTANTS FOR AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO GATHERING INFORMATION.
AND IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP WITH A CONTRACTOR, SO THAT CAN RESPOND QUICKLY SO THAT I CAN RESPOND MORE QUICKLY TO Y'ALLS REQUEST, UH, IF I'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL HELP, YOU KNOW, UH, DEPENDING UPON WHAT IT IS YOU NEED.
SO MONIQUE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE FOR, TO DO HER PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT SHE'S ASKING FOR A GIS POSITION.
AND AT LEAST AS AN INTERIM THING, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT A BAD IDEA TO COMBINE THESE TWO POSITIONS AND BRING SOMEBODY IN THAT IS EITHER THAT IS EITHER QUALIFIED TO DO GIS STUFF.
CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE, WELL, WE HAVE ONE PERSON, I THINK JERRY HELPS HIM THERE.
BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN TERMS OF QUALIFICATIONS TO DO ADDRESSES, BUT MAYBE I THINK THE GIS PERSON HAS, IS ACTUALLY THAT WE HOPE TO GET A HOLD OF IS THE LADY THAT'S WORKING ON HER DEGREE OR FAITH THESIS OR WHATEVER FOR THE GIS, THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING IT NOW.
UH, I KNOW THAT MONIQUE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HER UP AND GET HER SOME HELP AND, UH, AND GET KELLY SOME HELP.
SO THAT SHE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH GIS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK ONCE SHE GETS, SHE GRADUATES, IT'S ONE OF THEM DEALS WHERE YOU HOPE HE CAN RETAIN BECAUSE THEY PAY SO WELL WITH THAT TRAINING, THEY CAN GO JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE.
SO I'M HOPING THE MORE OF THE REASON THAT WE PROBABLY NEED A BACKUP FOR THAT PERSON.
SO, AND THEN IT'S, IT SAYS, I MEAN, YOU SAID THAT, UH, MONIQUE HAS A FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR NOW THAT IS KELLY, KELLY, KELLY.
THAT'S LAURA, WELCOME TO OREGON TOO, IS WHERE I'LL TAKE OVER THE ADMINISTRATOR, UH, DUTIES.
UH, MY TECH WOULD TAKE OVER THE DUTIES THAT JERRY'S CURRENTLY, UH, TAKEN CARE OF AS FAR AS INVESTIGATING VIOLATIONS.
AND EVENTUALLY TRY TO MOVE INTO BEING MORE PROACTIVE IN THAT RATHER THAN REACTIVE.
AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO, I CALL YOU, I'M READY TO START ON A BOND ROAD.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE GUY THAT'S STANDING WITH ALL THE CONTRACTORS OUT ON MY BOND ROAD.
AND THIS GUY IS GOING TO MAINLY WHAT THIS, THIS PERSON WOULD BE DOING IS IF I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH THE CONTRACTOR, BUT MAYBE TWO CONTRACTORS AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN A DECISION ON, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS THE EASIER FIX.
THEN WHILE I'M DEALING WITH THE OTHER ONE, I'M JUST WANTING TO BE MORE, BE ABLE TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE, PARTICULARLY TO THE YEAH.
AND YOUR FIELD PRISONS NOW VERSUS IN THE OFFICE IS GONE.
IF YOU'RE WALK, MANAGING OUR BONDS IS GOING TO BE GREATER.
SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW? WELL, THIS GUY'S GOING TO BE DOING,
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I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU'RE DOING THE COMBER PERMITS PRECINCT FOR RIGHT.YOU'RE NOT DOING THEM FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THEM SALES.
SO THAT'S EATING UP ALL YOUR TIME.
SO THAT'S A MAJOR REASON FOR GETTING THIS GUY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR REQUESTING IT.
SO LET'S SAY I'M DOING THE OTHER STUFF.
IF HE'S CHASING CULVER PERMITS, AMAZINGLY, I HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE OTHER STUFF THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON HIM DOING FLOODPLAIN AND GIS IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BRING THAT INDIVIDUAL ALONE, SEE HOW, SEE HOW IT WORKS THIS YEAR.
UH, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION ON, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, DO WE NEED ADDITIONAL STAFFING OR YES, WE CAN END UP TAKING THE WHOLE ROAD AND BRIDGE AND PUT IT OVER THERE.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY TAKING PART OF IT WITH THE CULVER'S.
SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GROWING EVERY YEAR AND I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE DAY TO DAY ROAD AND BRIDGE STUFF AND BE ABLE TO DO WITH ALL THIS STUFF, THIS GUY, AND YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH THE BONDS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST MY PRECINCT WITH THE BONDS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT COMMISSIONER CASEY IS GOING TO DELEGATE TO YOU, TO THEM TO MANAGE THEM TOO.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PRECINCT THREE.
SO THAT'S LIKE YOU CAN HAVE THREE OR FOUR ROADS GOING AT THE SAME TIME, NOT TO MENTION I'LL HAVE WHATEVER DESIGN THAT IS GOING ON IN PRECINCT TWO.
IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD TO HIM WITH HELMS TRAIL, WELL, LET, LET ME SAY THIS ABOUT KOVENS THE PRECINCT FOR CIRCUMSTANCE THAT EXISTED WAS THAT AT LEAST 40 HOURS, I WAS LOSING 40 HOURS A MONTH, A WEEK, A MONTH OUT OF MY SUPERVISOR'S TIME TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF COVER PERMITS.
SO WE HAD TO ADDRESS AND, UH, AND FRANKLY, I MEAN, WE'VE USED THIS TERMINATOR BEFORE, UH, BETWEEN MY SUPERVISOR AND MYSELF, OUR, UH, OUR TRUE, UM, OUR TRUE BOOK EXPERIENCE IN WAS, UH, WAS ALL REDNECK ENGINEERING.
AND WE'RE NOT HIRING ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT'S ABOVE OR REDNECK ENGINEER.
SO, SO, UH, THAT, THAT WAS THE REASON WHY, AND THAT WAS MY EXPECTATION WHEN WE CREATED THIS ENGINEER POSITION TO START WITH IS THAT SOME EXPERTISE WOULD BE BROUGHT TO BEAR IN, IN THE HYDROLOGY AREA.
THE LION'S SHARE OF WHICH IS NEW DRIVEWAY COVERS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OUT IN MY PRECINCT.
UH, BUT I THINK IT, IT ROLLS RIGHT BACK INTO THIS HYDROLOGY, UH, FLOOD PLAIN FLOODING SITUATION AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN BECAUSE, UH, JUST IN MY 18 MONTHS, THE FLOODING COMPLAINTS THAT I GET ARE, ARE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS DEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE, I THINK THAT WHOLE, THAT, THAT, UH, THE CONCEPT OF HAVING FREESE AND NICHOLS TRY TO, TO, UH, DEVELOP SOME SORT OF A FLOODING MODEL FOR THIS COUNTY IS GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE PREVALENT.
SO ALL OF THAT ROLLS INTO THE FACT THAT ENGINEERING HAS GOT TO BE, THEY'VE GOT TO BE MORE VISIBLE IN THE FIELD.
I MEAN, I SEE THIS AS A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FIELD ENGINEER JOB AND, UM, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THESE, THESE CHANGES IN OUR, IN OUR CIRCUMSTANCES IN THIS COUNTY, THAT THAT'S, I MEAN, WE, WE NEED TO, WE JUST HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET BECAUSE MY EXPECTATION ABOUT OUR, YOU KNOW, ABOUT OUR ROAD, UH, ROAD BOND PROJECTS ARE THAT BASICALLY THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TURNKEY MATTERS.
I EXPECT ENGINEERING AS WELL AS OUR CONTRACT ENGINEER WHO FUNCTIONS AS THE PROJECT MANAGER TO HANDLE THOSE, THOSE ROADS AND THOSE PROJECTS AS THEY COME ONLINE, UH, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE OUR EVERYDAY MAINTENANCE AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HEAVILY ENGAGED IN BUILDING OUR OWN ROADS, UM, IN THE, IN THE PRIESTS, IN THE NORMAL DAY TO DAY BUSINESS OF THE PRECINCT.
SO, UM, THERE'S, IN MY MIND, THERE'S CLEARLY A NEED FOR AN ENHANCED PRESENCE OF ENGINEERING OUT IN THE FIELD.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE, IT, IT TOOK YOU AWHILE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO TWO OR THREE OF OUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS
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THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.AND, UM, AND BUT MUCH OF THIS STUFF IS, IS NOT OFFICE WORK.
IT'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS A PAIR OF BOOTS THAT CAN STEP OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND FIND THE CULVERTS THAT NEED TO EITHER NEED TO BE TAGGED OR IDENTIFIED GEO LOCATED OR REPLACED.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE FACT THAT A NEW POSITION IS, IS NECESSARY IN THAT FUNCTION, BUT IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO SHOW IN PRODUCTIVITY AS WELL.
LET ME, LET ME GO BACK TO WHAT I, WHAT I'VE THE JARGON NOT ASK RON, IF HE TELLS ME THIS IS TRUE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN INTERESTING TO WATCH IS IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE CLOSE, THE CLOSENESS WHERE IT MAY BE, IT'S JUST PART OF IT'S A LOCATION, BUT THE CLOSEST OR THE WORKING WITH, UH, RON IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT'S KIND OF ALL TOGETHER, WHICH IS NOT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS IDEA THAT WE COULD ADD ONE POSITION FOR SOMEBODY THAT COULD BE TRAINED TO DO GIS WORK.
AND I'M THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE DURING CONTRACTING ROAD CONTRACTING AND STUFF, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO OTHER GIS WORK LIKE LOCATING CROSS CULVERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS, A YEAR, THERE'S GOING TO BE, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS TRAINED, MAYBE THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS PERSON WOULD BE.
IF IT WOULD BE A, UH, A PERSON WORKING REPORTING TO MONIQUE OR REPORTING IRAN, BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO LEARN THAT GIS SYSTEM AND DO OTHER GIS KIND OF WORK.
THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE DONE GIS LOCATED, YOU KNOW, LOCATING CROSS CULVERTS, UH, DOING FLOODPLAIN INVESTIGATIONS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, OR THE GIS POSITION IS GOING TO BE RUNNING.
THE GI IS PROGRAMMING, ENTERING DATA AND FOLLOWING DATA AND SHARING THIS STUFF.
SOMEONE ELSE HAS GOT TO BRING THE DATA TO THEM THERE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND A GIS PARSON.
JERRY IS, HE'S A FIELD GUY AND HE'S BEEN, UH, HE'S.
I THINK HE'S BEEN ABLE TO GET HIMSELF.
I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD INTO, WE'VE HAD HIM DOING TRAINING AND STUFF, AND I THINK HE'S ABLE TO DO A AT GIS WORK AND ENTRY SO HE CAN ENTER NINE ONE, ONE ADDRESSES.
I REALLY, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, JERRY'S LEVEL OF EXPERTISE IN GIS.
NOW, IF YOU'RE ASKING, IS HE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DO WITH THE CAPTURE, THIS INFORMATION? SURE.
BUT RIGHT NOW HE'S WEARING THREE DIFFERENT HATS OR MAYBE FOUR.
WELL THAT'S ANYWAY, MY, I STILL THINK THAT THAT IDEA OF COMBINING THE GIS POSITION INTO A, SOMEBODY TO DO ENGINEERING SUPPORT, I THINK IS JUDGE.
HAVE YOU HEARD FROM NET HOG, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE GIS CAUSE THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE REVENUE WAS COMING TO HELP PAY FOR THEM.
AND MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN ASK MONIQUE TO FIND OUT THEN.
SO Y'ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT CAGE WHILE HE'S GOING.
EVEN IF I NO LONGER AM REQUIRED TO DEAL WITH A PRECINCT FOREST DRIVEWAY CULVERTS, I STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS PERSON WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO MY STAFF AND WILL ALLOW ME TO, I MEAN, I'M NOT JUST A FIELD ENGINEER.
I MEAN, I'M REPRESENTING THE COUNTY IN SEVERAL ASPECTS AND I SUSPECT I'LL BE REPRESENTING SEVERAL ASPECTS MORE OF WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME MEETINGS I HAVE TO ATTEND.
AND SOME OF THEM RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL VIRTUAL, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MOVEMENT, UH, HOPEFULLY TO THE POINT WHERE WE'LL START HAVING DIRECT MEETINGS AGAIN.
UH, I KNOW THE JUDGE JUST GOT OVER, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WON'T COFFIN COUNTY
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TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF OUR TECHNICAL, UH, COMMITTEES, WHICH I TOLD HIM I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.I'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST FOR OTHER CITIES.
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN DOING IT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COURTS NEEDS TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE VALUE IS.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE TO DO WHAT Y'ALL NEED ME TO DO.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT CRYSTAL CLEAR IF YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HERE TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO SERVE THIS, UH, UH, COURT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
WELL, I, I SUGGEST, I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET TO TALK TO MONIQUE, BUT, UH, SHE HAD SUGGESTED THAT SHE CALLED IN TODAY, BUT I JUST COULDN'T SEE HOW THAT WAS GOING TO WORK.
I MEAN, WE ALL BE HUDDLED AROUND SOMEBODY'S CELL PHONE OR SOMETHING, BUT IS THAT IS MY IDEA OF DEAD.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT THINKS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT COMBINING THOSE TWO PLACES? WE'LL SAY IT AGAIN, JUDGE, COMBINING THE TWO, UH, BRINGING SOMEBODY INTO THE COUNTY THAT WOULD PROVIDE ENGINEERING SUPPORT, UH, GIS LOCATING, CROSS CULVERTS, UH, FLOOD PLAIN INVESTIGATION, DO THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT PERSON WOULD EITHER HAVE, OR WOULD BE TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO DO G I S UH, MAPPING WORK.
WE COMBINE THOSE TWO POSITIONS INTO ONE POSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT POSITION REQUEST FROM THE LEAK.
I JUST THINK IT'S TWO DISTINCT RESPONSIBILITIES AND STUFF.
NOW THE PERSON WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND HIRE THIS GUY.
THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO GET THE DATA OUT THERE AND SEND IT TO THE PERSON THAT'S ACTUALLY MANIPULATING THE DATA AND UPDATING STUFF.
SO I THINK IT'S TWO DIFFERENT DEALS.
ONE THING THOUGH, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE GIVING UP ALL THIS OTHER STUFF TOO.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO JUST ASK A BALANCE, BUT THIS IS A LOT OF, LOT OF, LOT OF STUFF HERE.
WHEN I CAME INTO THE OFFICE, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANYBODY THAT DID A MAP.
AND, UH, AND I KIND OF RAISE A LOT OF CANE AND WE FINALLY DID GET SOMEBODY IN THE GIS.
AND, UH, AND HE'S THAT YOUNG MAN WHO MADE THIS MAPS.
AND IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS REALLY A REALLY A GREAT ASSET.
I MEAN, JUST INSTANTLY WE WENT FROM ONE CENTURY TO THE NEXT AND OVERNIGHT.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK GA AS MAPPING AND THAT PERSON'S VERY IMPORTANT UP THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SEE THAT POSITION GET SPLIT OUT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY GET TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT I DO NOW.
I DID, YOU KNOW, CAUSE UH, I DID ASK FOR ANOTHER MAP THE OTHER DAY AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT YET, BUT THE, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT.
I THINK ONCE WE GET A HUNDRED PERCENT CORNER AND ALL THIS PROGRAM, A HUNDRED PERCENT EVERYTHING'S WORKING AND IT'S SO SIMPLE AND THEY CAN PRINT THEM OUT.
I THINK AT THAT TIME AND POINT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT IS IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE NEED TO TALK TO MOM, NICOLA, WE'LL NEVER GET THERE.
I MEAN THE GIS, THE GIS MAPPING HAS GOT TONS OF JUST, IT'S JUST EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING FROM YOUR SIGNAGE GO ON NOW TO CROSS CULVERTS, EVEN DRIVEWAY CULVERTS CAN BE, UH, UH, CAPTURED.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN I TALKED TO YOU THE OTHER DAY AND THIS, THIS MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY TOO, ABOUT SOME OF THESE NEW PROGRAMS WE HAVE ON, UH, UH, THE HELICOPTER THING.
AND THEN WHEN YOU CALL IT THE DRONE ENGINEERING COMING ACROSS FROM ME AS A DRONE, AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT.
IT DOES EVERY SINGLE ELEVATION PICKS OUT EVERY LITTLE COVERT, EVERYTHING THAT YOU PLOW AND THEY DO IT RATHER.
I MEAN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD, WE MIGHT JUST BE OFF TO TRY TO MOVE.
I KNOW WE NEED TO MOVE A LITTLE FAST, BUT I THINK WE MIGHT BE MOVING A LITTLE TOO FAST FOR SOME THINGS IN THE, IN, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.
CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A, I'D HATE TO EVEN GUESS HIM IN CULVERTS ARE, I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE PERSON COULD GO OUT AND ACTUALLY TRACK ALL THE COLOR.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY COULD GET THROUGH FOUR IN A YEAR.
OH NO, THAT'S A HUGE PROJECT CROSS COVERT AND THIS GIRL'S COVERED, BUT HE'S TOLD THE DRIVEWAY GROVER AND EVERYTHING.
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THAT EVENTUALLY.OUR INITIAL CONCERN WOULD BE THE MAJOR CROSS CULVERTS AND TRYING TO TAG THEM JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING ON MY FIRST BOND ROAD.
WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH 50 PLUS DRIVEWAY CULVERTS ON OUR VERSION.
SO THE COVERT ISSUE IS, IS IT'S GOING TO BECOME OVERWHELMING AS OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS OR SO.
IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER COSTLY.
UM, WELL THAT'S COMING UP ON THE AGENDA LATER, BUT UH, UH, I REALLY THINK, I REALLY THINK, I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH SKIED AND, AND MIKE THAT I THINK GIS IS REALLY KIND OF A SEPARATE FUNCTION AND, AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THINK OF WHITE HERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY I'M NOT DISAGREEING, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT POSITION.
MONIQUE NEEDS TO TELL US WHAT THAT JOB NEEDS TO DO AND ALL THAT.
SO, UM, I GUESS, I GUESS BACK TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE FIELD PRESENCE OUT OF ENGINEERING.
I MEAN, I DO RON AND UH, UM, BECAUSE PARTICULARLY IN WHAT, IN OUR OTHER HAT IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE HAT, WE HAVE A LIMITED WINDOW FOR A LOT OF TIMES OF WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR TIMELINESS IS CRITICAL TO US AND THOSE SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS OF ROAD BUILDING SEASON AND I'M NOT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA, I DON'T SEE ANY DIMINISHMENT OF THAT NEED OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR TO SIX YEARS.
I DON'T EITHER, BUT NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
SO I WOULD SAY ASSUMING THAT YOU CAN FIND THE RIGHT PERSON TO DO THIS OUT SUPPORT THIS PETITION JUDGE, I THINK IT NEEDS, I THINK, I THINK, UH, WITH THE ADVENT OF THE BOND WORK AND, AND UH, AND REALLY JUST THE, THE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO IMPROVE OUR, IF NOTHING ELSE, OUR ROAD SYSTEM AND OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM, I THINK THIS, THIS POSITION IS NEEDED.
WELL, RON, RON REFERRED TO EARLIER TO MAYBE WITH THIS KIND OF SUPPORT, THAT WE'VE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE USING CONSULTING ENGINEERS FOR MAYBE DON'T REALLY NEED TO BE DONE BY CONSULTING ENGINEERS.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I MAY BE TASKING THEM TO DO SOME STUFF.
THAT'S REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, A TECHNICAL KIND OF PERSON COULD DO A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM.
NO, I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT MENTAL POSITION.
I'M, I'M ONLY GONNA BE CAREFUL ABOUT GROWING IT REALLY BIG JUST OVERNIGHT.
AND WE'RE NOT EVEN CLEAR WHICH JOB IS DOING WHAT AT THE MOMENT, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN IN WITH MONIQUE YET.
AND, BUT I'M AGREEING THAT THAT SERVICE TECH I'M WITH YOU ON THIS.
I'M NOT EVEN ARGUING THAT POINT.
AND I'M AGREEING WITH YOU TOO AS WELL.
WHAT THE FUTURE IS, IS EXACTLY GOING TO HOLD.
SO, I MEAN, AND I ONLY WANT TO ASK FOR IT THE ONE POSITION, BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS GROW TOO FAST OR TRY TO GO BY THE OFFICE OVER THERE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR, I'M NOT SAYING THEY WOULDN'T, I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT ABOUT EQUIPMENT STAFFING? I MEAN, EQUIPMENT SPACE AND, AND VEHICLES FOR THIS NEW POSITION.
IS THAT IN, IS THAT IN HERE? SOMEWHERE IN THERE THAT FROM MONIQUE IT'S IN THERE? WELL, THE, THE, UH, FOR HIS POSITION MONIQUE WILL ADDRESS IT FOR THEM.
JUST THE SPACE ISSUES COMING UP.
I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT IN HERE FOR, UH, FUEL, UH, FOR THE, UH, I'VE GOT IN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, A VEHICLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TREMBLE UNIT THAT I'D MENTIONED.
I'VE GOT THAT IN THERE SO THAT, UH, THEY CAN TELL THEY CALL CENTER $245,000 A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE FIELD TEAM BASICALLY.
ALSO INCLUDES MY SALARY LIMIT.
UH, THE, THE ENGINEERING TECH I THINK IS, UH, ONLY ABOUT 40,000.
Y'ALL READY TO TELL JERRY TO PLUG THAT IN AND LET'S GO ROAD SIGNS.
IS THAT COMING OUT OF HERE? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED OUT OF FUND 20.
IT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN HIS BUDGET.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, 20.
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WHAT BOBBY USED TO USE WHEN HE'D BUY THE MATERIALS TO MAKE THOSE SIGNS.PARDON ME? IT'S JUST A NUMBER SITTING IN HIS BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ROADS ON, WHAT ARE NOW, DO YOU MAKE THEM YOURSELVES? YEAH.
AND YOU HAVE, OR IF YOU HAVE IT ALL ON YOUR OWN BUDGETS, THEN WE COULD ZERO THAT OUT.
I MEAN, UH, CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THIS ONE BROKE ON SIGNAGE THAT MIGHT BE ROAD BOND OR SOMETHING.
THAT WOULD BE BOND MONEY THAT WOULD COME OUT OF BOND MONEY.
I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BUY MY SONS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BUYING THEM MYSELF.
WHAT I ASKED KAREN WAS WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? AND WHEN SHE TOLD ME I'M GOING, NO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE IN Y'ALLS BUDGET.
THAT'S JUST, WELL, LEGACY NUMBER OUT THERE.
THERE'S BEEN FLOODING OUT THERE.
SO THAT COULD PROBABLY BE, IT CAN BE TAKEN OUT.
I AGREE WITH KAREN, WHATEVER SHE SAID, I JUST HAVE TWO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE OUT ON AN EXTRA POSITION WE'RE DONE.
SO, SO THE TWO FOLKS THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY WOULD BE, WE ARE SHERIFF THERE'S ABOUT FOUR POSITIONS THERE THAT WE NEED TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT.
THEY'RE PRETTY SPELLED OUT PRETTY CLEARLY AS I'M GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT MONIQUE'S IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S POTENTIALLY 1.5 POSITIONS.
CAUSE HE'S GOT A, SHE'S GOT A POSITION WROTE INTO THIS CLERK THAT SAYS MOVING TO A MODIFIED FULL TIME.
AND I HAVE, SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AN EXTRA POSITION THAT SHE HAS IN THERE MAYBE AT HALF TIME.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE 1.5 VERSUS ONE.
AND WHAT MAKES DEPARTMENT, SO I'LL I'LL CAN JUST LEAVE THEM IN THERE FOR RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADJUST.
SO SUMMARY OF ALL OF THIS IS I'VE GOT NOTES.
I THINK KAREN AND I HAVE HAVE PERMITS THE SAME NOTES.
SO THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO GO IN AND PUT THESE POSITIONS INTO THE PAYROLL SHEET, RERUN IT AND WE'LL ADD TAXES AND BENEFITS.
AND WE'LL DO ALL THE COSTS AND THEN TAKE THOSE NUMBERS.
AND WE'LL RERUN A DRAFT THREE DO KNOW THAT THAT THE GAP TODAY WAS 300,000.
THAT NUMBER WILL GO UP BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER 17% OR SO OF BURDEN.
SO THAT NUMBER WILL GO UP AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A BLUSH OF STEPS OF NUMBER THREE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SAY YOU GOT A $500,000 GAP.
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL NEED TO ADDRESS DURING THE NEXT WORKSHOP IS, IS FUNDING THE 500,000.
SO WE'LL SCRUB REVENUE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN REVENUE THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE.
UM, THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY NOT BE DEPENDING ON WHERE VALUES COME IN AND, AND WHAT ELSE COMES OUT OF THE, THE EXTRA REVENUES.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DECISION ON WHEN YOU'VE PROBABLY MOVED FROM THERE.
NOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE INCREASES.
CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE THAT'LL BE HANGING OUT THERE REMAINING THAT WE'LL WE'LL BUTTON UP.
AND ONCE WE GET THAT BUTTONED UP, JUST TO KEEP EVERYBODY BACK ON A TIMELINE ON THE 27TH, I BELIEVE MONDAY THE 27TH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO SET ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES.
SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, HAVE CLARITY AROUND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THOSE LETTERS HAVE TO GO OUT AND WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THEM INTO PAPER.
AND THEN BY THE 30TH OR THAT SAME WEEK WHERE WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO PUBLISH OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE OPEN SWITCHES.
AND WE, AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE PUBLISH THAT BUDGET, BUT WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED AFTER THAT.
WE DO, WE DO, WE DO MODIFY IT.
YOU HAVE TO BE UP FRONT, BUT WE HAVE TO PUMP AND YOU MAY GET IT.
SO YOU MAKE IT EVEN GET SOME ADJUSTMENTS FROM THE TAX OFFICE, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
AND, UH, JUST TO MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL BETTER.
UH, WE MEET AGAIN MONDAY AT NINE.
WE DON'T TAKE ONE OF THOSE 30,006 50 IS OUT OF THERE OUT OF WHERE WAS SIGNED.
GIVE ME ONE ZERO, ZERO OUT THE ROAD SIGNS AND PUT IT BACK INTO FUND 20.
I MEAN, TO THE END, TO THE, I THINK WE JUST ROLL IT BACK IN.
CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ALL THE WAY IT'S FUNDED IS THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT IS FUNDED OUT OF ROAD AND BRIDGE.
SO EACH OF YOU WERE BASICALLY PAYING A FOURTH, IF YOU WILL.
YOU KNOW, THEY COME COMES, IT COMES RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
AND I, YEAH, HE, HE SAID IT WAS IN HIS BUDGET AND IT'S NOT, I, I SH I SHOW IT AS A LINE ITEM.
THAT'S WHERE WE BOUGHT ALL THE SUPPLIES.
ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS TODAY? JUDGE?
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ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA TODAY? PATTY EVENLY? WHAT'D YOU SAY, JERRY? I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF AN AGENDA IN FRONT OF ME.I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
NO, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
SECOND, A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND THE SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER CASE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, I SUPPOSE.