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UH, WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE KOPAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER[1. Call to Order.]
IT'S.UH, WHATEVER DATE TODAY IS JULY THE 20TH, 20TH, WHICH IS 9:06 AM.
WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM.
WE HAVE A QUORUM, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT IS UNABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY.
[3. Adjourn Special Meeting and enter into Workshop.]
LAST WEEK OR LAST MEETING, YOU REMEMBER WE WERE REVIEWING REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND, UH, I THINK WE'LL, UH, GO BACK TO THAT, BUT WE MISSED, WE MISSED A COUPLE OF THEM LAST WEEK.UH, THE SHERIFF IS WITH US HERE AND, UH, MONIQUE IS HERE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO, UH, SHERIFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR, UH, REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER STAR COULDN'T ATTEND THE LAST MEETING, BUT I HAD OTHER PRIOR ENGAGEMENTS THAT I NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF.
IF YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE FIVE 60 BUDGET DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, UH, AFTER MEETING WITH MY COMMAND STAFF AND WE STARTED EVALUATING EVERYTHING, I THINK ONE BIG NEED THAT I THINK ALL Y'ALL HAVE HEARD AND THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ON PATROL MENTAL HEALTH AND ALL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A, IF YOU JUST WANT A SECOND SHERIFF, WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON JERRY? HE IS ON PAGE 24.
DO NOTE THAT THIS, THIS MATH THAT YOU SEE ON PAGE 24 DOES INCLUDE THOSE POSITIONS.
UH, SO THOSE NEW POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THIS NUMBER, BUT ANY INCREASES ARE NOT PART OF THAT NUMBER.
SO WHILE WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT AND LOOKED AT OTHER MODELS, SO OUT THE STATE IS WE NEED ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS GOING TO SUPERVISE ALL THIS MENTAL HEALTH, BRING IT TOGETHER, WORKING WITH THE COURTS, UH, TRYING TO MOVE THE PEOPLE FROM THE JAIL.
SO THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE A LIAISON TO ALL MENTAL HEALTH AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FROM THE APAC IS FOLLOWING UP WITH KNIPPA CAUSE THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE STUFF IS GETTING DROPPED.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A GREAT RAPPORT.
WE'RE GETTING REPORTS FROM A PALS.
UH, WHAT'S GOING OUT ON THE STREET, MAKING SURE THEY'RE GETTING FOLLOW UP, UH, WHERE WE'RE DROPPING.
A FEW THINGS IS IN THE JAIL, MAKING SURE WITH KOBE LAG.
WE'RE HAVING MAJOR ISSUES WITH THE COURTS, TRYING TO MOVE STUFF FORWARD.
Y'ALL KNOW IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO DO THAT.
BUT THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL, I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, ONCE WE GET THIS PLAN SET OUT WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AND GET THEM HELP BESIDES US ALWAYS PICKING THEM UP AND TAKING THEM TO TERRELL STATE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO BUILD THAT RAPPORT WITH THESE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH EVERYDAY ON THE STREET, PLUS ALSO IN THE JAIL, TRYING TO GET THIS PROCESS.
IF WE DO SEND THEM TO BE RESTORED AND GET THEM BACK, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE GET THEM TO THE COURT SYSTEM.
CAUSE WE'VE HAD A FEW THAT HAS STAGGERED OVER THERE AND THEY'VE GOT WORSE ON US, BUT WE DON'T RUN A MENTAL HEALTH SILTY AND THEY WILL DETERIORATE ON US IF WE DON'T GET THEM THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM, WHEN WE GET THEM BACK.
SO THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL BE THAT'S.
THEIR TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY IS MAKING SURE ANYBODY HITS THE JAIL THAT WE'RE GETTING THEM EVALUATED.
SAME THING ON THE STREET, FOLLOWING UP WITH A PAL.
SO I THINK IT'D BE THE VERY VITAL ROLE THAT WE TRY TO START DOING THIS IN A LOT OF, A LOT OF COUNTIES ARE DOING THIS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A MODEL FOR THIS POSITION? NO, I DON'T.
HE'S GOT ONE INDIVIDUAL HANDLING THIS AND I, IN MY OPINION, I THINK HE'S GOTTA BE A POLICE OFFICER, ESPECIALLY CAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH STUFF ON THE STREET SIZE AND WE'RE ALWAYS DOING EIGHT PILES.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE ROLE OF POLICE OFFICER TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING.
AND HE KNOWS THE INS AND OUT OF THE COURT SYSTEM, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A BETTER MODEL IN THE LONG RUN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF AGENCIES IS DOING NOTHING BUT INDIVIDUALS TAKING CARE OF THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.
SO THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS WOULD BE, UH, NOT, I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT TO THAT? WE WOULD SAVE MONEY.
I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL'S NOT SITTING IN JAIL AND THEN WE HAVE TO SEND THEM BACK.
I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $50, A LITTLE OVER $50 A DAY FOR HIM, BUT HE JUST SAT IN THERE.
SO I MEAN, IT CAN BE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES ALSO FAR AS THE ONES OF US WASTING TIMES AND ON DEPUTIES OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THESE PEOPLE TO HELP AND WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM BY TAKING THEM BY THE TERRELL STATE, RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT NOW, IS IT GOING TO DO IT LIKE TOMORROW? IF WE PUT THEM ON NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO OR THREE YEAR DEAL, BUT THAT'S, WE'RE COMMITTED THAT.
AND I'M GOING TO HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP UP WITH TIME AND EFFORT TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE MONEY THAT WE CAN SAY ABOUT PUTTING THIS POSITIONING.
Y'ALL KNOW HOW I AM ABOUT NUMBERS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVE OURSELVES.
IS THIS A, IS THIS A POLICE OFFICER OR IS IT, YEAH, IT'LL BE A LIEUTENANT POLICE AND HE'S GOING TO WIND UP GETTING HIS JAIL CERTIFICATION AND EVERYTHING WHERE HE CAN DO IN THE JAIL.
I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT THAT IT'S A LIEUTENANT.
IS IT SOMEBODY WHO WILL MOVE IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT POSITION?
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YES, SIR.HE WAS ALREADY THERE AND HANDLING ALL OF IT RIGHT NOW.
HE'S ALREADY BUILT A RAPPORT WITH NAPA AND ALL THAT.
SO BASICALLY JUST INCREASED THE INSANITY THAT LIEUTENANT'S PAY.
RIGHT? HE'S ALREADY A LIEUTENANT.
WE'LL MOVE HIM AND PUT SOMEBODY UP IN HIS SPOT.
RIGHT? SHERIFF, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU ESTIMATE? JUST BALLPARK THAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON MENTAL HEALTH REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOW.
I MEAN, I GAVE YOU THE DEAL AND THE MEDS AND STUFF WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE PROBABLY SPENDING JUST BALLPARK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BETWEEN TRANSPORTS AND ALL WE'RE DOING.
I GUARANTEE YOU WE'RE SPENDING ANYWHERE FROM 150, 200,000 A YEAR, WHICH I HAVEN'T SOME ISSUES LIKE WITH TERRELL STATE, FOR EXAMPLE, Y'ALL WILL TAKE SOMEBODY OVER THERE.
AND WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO, THEY'RE RELEASED BACK OUT OF THERE TELLING Y'ALL TO COME GET THEM.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT RELEASING THEM UNDERNEATH THE LAW.
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE THEM OVER THERE.
IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA, WE HAVE TO PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM BACK UNDERNEATH THE LAW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WOULD PICK THEM UP.
SO WE'RE HAVING SOME OF THAT TURTLE STATE IS WORKING BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD IN THE PAST.
THIS IS ONCE AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE PROBLEMS, THIS IS WHERE WE NEED THIS INDIVIDUAL TO CONCENTRATE ON MENTAL HEALTH AND HAVING MEETINGS WITH HIM RIGHT? WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONCERNS TO BRING THEM UP.
WHEN TROLL BRINGS THAT TO US, THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL GO OVER AND SIT DOWN AND GO, OKAY, WHY, WHY IS THIS? AND LIKE I SAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN'T BEAT A DOCTOR OVER THERE THAT SAYS THEY'RE NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.
AND THEN BY LAW I HAVE TO PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM BACK WHERE WE PICK THEM UP.
WELL, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TAKE THEM BACK, DON'T READ AND YOU'RE TAKING THEM BACK.
CAUSE THEY COMMITTED SOME KIND OF CRAP, MAN.
NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING THERE BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS CALLED US ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.
AND REALLY, UH, THE CRIME MIGHT BE COMMITTED CAUSE HE HAS A MENTAL EPISODE AND YOU KNOW, REALLY ARE WE THERE TO TRY TO HELP HIM OR JUST PUTTING HIM IN JAIL? BEST BETS WE FIND IS TRYING TO GET A MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THEY CAN'T.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, TAKING THEM BACK, YOU'RE TAKING THEM BACK TO THEM WHEREVER WE PICKED HIM UP BY LAW, I HAVE TO PUT, TAKE THEM BACK WHERE WE PICK THEM UP.
CAUSE WE HAVE NO PLACE TO, THEY CAME BY.
I MEAN, WE TAKE HIM FROM FEDERAL STATE.
AS A CANDIDATE, WE HAVE NO PLACE TO TAKE THEM.
I MEAN, CAUSE I KNOW ONE DOWN AND THAT'S READING, I'M ASKING, I KNOW ONE THAT'S FLIPPED AROUND THAT.
AND THEN, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER HOMES AND STUFF THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH TRYING TO BUILD THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT INDIVIDUAL, EVEN THOUGH IF IT'S IN DALLAS SOMEWHERE TO BUILD THAT RAPPORT, UH, THEY MIGHT NOT COME MEET TERRELL STATE.
BUT IF THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES GETTING GRANTS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH.
IT WAS AND ALL THAT BEFORE THEY CLOSE AND YEAH.
AND WE CAN MOVE, MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE TO GET THEM HELP BECAUSE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALL ABOUT TRYING TO GET THEM HELP AND STOP THE RESISTANCE OF DEALING WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL OR A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THAT HELPS US ALL.
AND WE'VE GOT TO BUILD THAT RAPPORT BECAUSE IN THE DAY, IF SOMEBODY HAS AN EPISODE, I NEED THAT RAPPORT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A STANDOFF OVER AND WE BUILD A GOOD RAPPORT WITH THEM.
WE CAN GET THAT INDIVIDUAL OUT AND SAFE AND SAVE THEM.
IF NOT ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S IN THE RED.
YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF US UP HERE ALREADY KNOW THAT, BUT EVERY CONFERENCE WE GO TO THIS, THAT'S THE FIRST THING EVERY SHERIFF COMES IN AND TALKS TO US ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THE JAIL IS NOT THE PLACE FOR ME.
I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
SO, AND WE, WE PROBABLY HELD THE BIGGEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ALL THE COUNTY JAILS A MINUTE LATER, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WAS THE ONE POSITION WE DID.
UH, THE OTHER NEW, IF YOU WANT, IF WE TO TALK TO OTHER POSITIONS I'LL I'LL YES.
THE FTO, UH, WITH OUR TRAINING, WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE JUST WEARING OUR MTLS OUT.
SO WE NEED TO PUT IN A COUPLE OF MORE FTO.
SO WE'RE THERE NO NEW POSITIONS IT'S JUST UP IN THE SALARY.
I THINK HE'S ALREADY ADDED IT.
UH, AND UH, CHANGING TWO DEPUTIES TO FTO POSITION TO BE 5,000, $250 INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM WAS, UH, WE'RE STILL DOING LOTS OF NARCOTIC STUFF AND I'VE HAD A, UH, DEPUTY ASSIGNED TO NARCOTICS, UH, BEEN DOING A LOT OF STUFF IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO WE WANT TO MOVE HIM TO AN INVESTIGATOR CAUSE HE'S DOING WHAT INVESTIGATORS ARE DOING.
AND THAT IMPACT WOULD BE $4,950 JUST TO DO THAT.
UH, LIKE I SAY, IT'S NOT A NEW POSITION.
IT'S JUST MOVING HIM INTO THE INVESTIGATOR ROW.
THE OTHER POSITION IS, UH, THE COURTHOUSE, DEPUTY TRYING TO ADD ANOTHER COURTHOUSE.
DEPUTY, IF Y'ALL SEEN THAT THE MAN THAT WE'VE GOT RUN AROUND HERE AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OFF AND RUNNING AROUND, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A RELIEF FACTOR OVER HERE AND ADD ONE MORE PERSON.
UH, AND I THINK Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY SEEN THAT AND ADD IN THAT, IN THAT INDIVIDUAL, UH, THAT WOULD BE 66,500 MOVING THAT, THAT PERSON OVER.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING, UH, THAT THEY HAVE FOR US WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING OVER THERE.
UH, AND THAT'S ALSO FROM THE SCHOOL OR WE'RE MOVING THE LIEUTENANT
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OVER THERE TO THAT POSITION.SO SAID THEY, AND THAT FIGURE HAS GOT QUITE A BIT OF LONGEVITY AND EVERYTHING, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT ON THE BUDGET, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYTHING IN THE FIVE 60, UH, THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ANYBODY, IF Y'ALL WANT TO GO TO THE FIVE 61, WHICH IS THE JAIL.
THE ONLY ONE POSITION THAT WE'RE ONLY REALLY CHANGES IN THAT FOREST POSITION IS WE'RE NEEDING TO ADD A COURT, AN ATTORNEY COORDINATOR, UH, WITH ALL THIS COVID-19, UH, THE THINGS WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAYS, I DON'T KNOW, LOOK, IT'S ON PAGE 25.
UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT ADDING THAT JUST AS ATTENTION OFFICER, ADDING THAT ONE MORE POSITION, UH, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US WITH ALL THESE, UH, MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING BETWEEN THE FEDERAL COURTS AND, UH, OUR COURTS HERE AND WHAT TYPE OF OFFENDING IS GOING TO PICK UP EVEN MORE WITH THE COURT SYSTEM CUT DOWN, I'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COORDINATE PLUS THE ATTORNEYS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING FROM PHONE CALLS TO EVERYTHING, SOMEBODY TO COORDINATE THAT DAY TO DAY OPERATION TO MAKE SURE OUR INMATES ARE GETTING ON THE PHONE WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.
AND WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN A PRIVATE ROOM, UH, TO THE MEETINGS FOR THE COURTS ON THE COURT DAYS OR WHATEVER THEY THEY HAVE OR WE'RE EVEN WORKING WITH.
UH, I THINK IT WAS WHAT COUNTY WAS AT ROCKWALL.
ONE OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND WAQAR ELLIS COUNTY, WE WOUND UP DOING A MAINTENANCE.
DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BRING THE INDIVIDUAL JAIL.
THEY HANDLED THEIR CASE ALREADY OVER.
AND SO WE'RE SITTING HERE HOLDING ON SOMEBODY, BUT THAT'S FINE.
IF I CAN MOVE CASES ALONG AND MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
BUT I'VE GOT TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL.
THAT'S ALL I DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DROP THE BALL ON IT COURT HEARING.
PLUS MAKING SURE WE DON'T DROP THE BALL ON AN ATTORNEY BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IF WE DON'T GET OUR ATTORNEYS TO SEE THEIR CLIENTS AND STUFF, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN SOMEBODY'S CIVIL RIGHTS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING EVERYTHING ON A TIME SCHEDULE.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY IMPACT FOR US POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN ON THE COMMUNICATION SIDE, THERE'S NOTHING, NO CHANGES TRYING TO ADD IN NEW PERSON, EVER QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF ABOUT THAT.
UH, THEN WE NEED TO, WHEREAS WE'VE ADDED THESE IN, INTO THIS REVISION OF THE BUDGET.
UM, Y'ALL WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO IF YOUR, THOSE NUMBERS ARE ALREADY IN THIS? YES, YES, SIR.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT I DID A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
I DID BREAK OUT CAUSE WE'VE GOT THIS WAGE AND SALARY SURVEY COMING.
I WANTED TO HAVE AT LEAST SOMETHING WE COULD KIND OF SEE SALARIES AND THEN EXTRA PAYS WILL STEP PAY.
PROFICIENCY PAYS ALL THOSE THINGS I PUT IN SOME LINE ITEMS, KAREN AND I'LL, WE'LL GET THAT TRUED UP.
UH, THE TOTAL MATH IS ALL THE SAME.
WE MAY NOT MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN STW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET A SNAPSHOT OF IT SO WE COULD SEE IT.
UM, BUT YES, THOSE ADDED POSITIONS ARE ALL IN THESE NUMBERS.
IT'LL LOOK KIND OF CONFUSING WHEN YOU SEE THOSE BIG MINUSES AND THEN THOSE NUMBERS.
CAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE THAT IN THE FINAL THING.
DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE A MAN OR HELLO AT SOME POINT, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN MEMPHIS THAT NIGHT, THAT DAY YOU SENT IT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START MAKING CHANGES.
I MEAN, AT THE MOMENT, I GUESS WE LEAVE IT IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE ABOUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT $50,000 MORE IN EXPENDITURES AND REVENUE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I'LL LET YOU USUALLY EVER BUDGET AND IT'S ALWAYS SO
AND THEN WE JUST WORK IT OUT AND IT'S ALL IN, IN, IN OF COURSE IT'S ALL IN PEOPLE.
IT'S ALWAYS, THAT'S OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE ARE MORE PEOPLE.
SO SHERIFF WENT A HOTEL AND DO THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS, CAN YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT? CAN YOU PRIORITIZE YOUR NEED? W WHICH ONES CAN YOU ABSOLUTELY NOT DO WITHOUT? WELL, I MEAN, I'M TELLING YOU THE COURT COORDINATOR OVER THERE, WE CAN GET SUED OVER THAT.
AND SO IT'S HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEND IN
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THE LAW.SO, UH, BY DROPPING THE BALL ON THAT, UH, AND THEN THE MENTAL HEALTH, I MEAN, TO ME, THEM, THEM AS THE TOP TWO, UH, ANYTHING.
AND THEN IF YOU WON'T TALK ABOUT SECURITY OF A CODE HOUSE, HAVING THE PEOPLE TO DO THAT, ONCE AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER GETS BUILT WITH SOME OF THIS, WE START BECOMING MORE OF A SAME ANGELOU.
WE MAIL AND CUT DOWN SOME THINGS LIKE I KNOW WE WERE ON TRANSPORTATION, MAYBE.
THE TRANSPORTATION FAR AS TRANSPORTATION DEPUTIES.
I MEAN, I THINK IN THE END OF THE DAY, WE PROBABLY CAN MAYBE MOVE SOME PEOPLE FROM TRANSPORT ON THE STREET.
CAUSE I DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE.
UH THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IMPACT.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT ANY IN COURTHOUSE SECURITY DEPUTIES, BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS BIGGER.
LIKE I SAY, WE STILL GOT TO WORK ON GIVING PEOPLE THEIR COMP TIME, VACATION, ALL THAT.
YOU STILL GOT TO HAVE EVERYBODY TO HAVE A QUESTION ON.
IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY IN ANY OTHER OPEN POSITIONS YOU HAVE CURRENTLY THAT IF YOU HAD TO PRIORITIZE AND NOT FILL ONE OF THOSE VERSUS FILLING ONE OF THESE OTHER WORDS, UNFILLED POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVEN'T FILLED.
AND THAT'S VERY FEW AT THIS POINT, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT DEPUTIES AND I AIN'T GIVEN, I MEAN, WE CAN'T GIVE A DEPUTY UP.
I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A FOOL OUT THERE.
Y'ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH OVER THERE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE SAME BOAT ALL IN THE SAME ABOUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START GETTING LIMITED, WE KEPT YOU GET, UM, HMM.
IT'S LIKE WE NEED SOME MORE REVENUE.
WELL, I SAID, YES, I SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, THAT WE LEAVE THESE IN THERE.
UH, AND I GUESS EVERYBODY SHOULD REALIZE THAT WE HAD A BALANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT READ $650,000 THROUGH EITHER THROUGH A RAISING OF REVENUE, FINDING MORE REVENUE.
AND KAREN I'VE TALKED, SHE'S GOT SOME IDEAS ON WHERE WE'VE GOT REVENUE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT INTO THE TOP LINE.
UM, OR WE GOT A LOW WORK EXPENDITURE.
SO CAUSE WE GOT TO GET THAT 650,000 ZERO ANYWAY.
RIGHT? WELL, I THINK SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO DEFINITELY CONSIDER WHO KEEP IN MIND, OF COURSE, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE JAIL, ALL THAT SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING OF COURSE IS OUR LARGEST LIABILITY.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP MITIGATE THAT, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
IF THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, ADD MORE PEOPLE DOING MORE THAN WE CAN TO HOPEFULLY AVOID LAWSUITS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LISTEN TO THE SHERIFF AND DO AN OUT, PROVE OUR RECORD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
WE'VE DONE REALLY GOOD IN THAT ASPECT OF IT.
UH, THE COUNTY HADN'T LOST ANY MONEY SO FAR AND I'LL KNOCK ON WOOD BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY'S A NEW DAY.
UH, WE WORKED HARD ON READING, NO NEGOTIATING, OUR CONTRACT WITH THE FEDS, IT'S BROUGHT IN QUITE A BIT MORE MONEY.
WE STARTED DOING THE OTHER STUFF.
AS FAR AS, UH, PICTURES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE SEEING THE OTHER REVENUE COMING IN THAT WAY.
SO WE'RE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN HELP WITH REVENUE, WHICH I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY.
BUT WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT, WE LOOK AT IT AND TRY TO COMPROMISE AND MAKE EVERYTHING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO OFFSET ANY COSTS THAT WE HAVEN'T PROVEN THAT IN THE LAST FEW CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'RE DONE, WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND TRYING TO OFFSET SOME OF OUR STUFF THE BEST WE CAN.
SO I'D LIKE TO, WELL, I HAVE TO GO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THAT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER BARBARA SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE MANDATE OF ALL GOVERNMENTS IS TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE CITIZENS.
AND THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PROVIDING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT, NOT ONLY WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT WITH OUR CONSTABLES AS WELL.
UH, ANY OF YOUR DEEDS HERE, BRIAN, THEY ALL SEEM PRETTY REASONABLE TO ME.
UH, IN THE, IN THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S JUST HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE COUNTY HAVE.
CAUSE IT'S PRETTY DETAILED ON THINGS I'VE GOT TO HAVE.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE, UH, JAIL Y'ALL SEEN THAT CLIP MADE.
Y'ALL SEE WHERE WE PUT IN THERE, THE LIST AND THE GEAR AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT I USE IN LIFESPAN OF ALL THAT.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL GOT A GOOD GRASP OF ALL THAT EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.
I THINK IT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO REMIND THE COUNTY THAT, UH, THE NEW JAIL IS 15 YEARS OLD.
I WAS 15 YEARS OLD, 16, ALMOST 16 YEARS OLD.
SO I'D SEEN NEEDLESS SIDE THAT KITCHEN BACK AREA.
IT'S A GREAT THING, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE EQUIPMENT WAS, IS EXPENSIVE.
IT'S GETTING BETTER EVERY DAY.
I'M TELLING YOU WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REPLACE
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A KETTLE IN THE MIDSTREAM AND THIS LAST BUDGET THAT WASN'T PLAYING, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $30,000.I NEVER THOUGHT THE CATTLE WOULD BE $30,000, BUT YOU OUGHT TO TRY BUYING A MOTOR GRADER.
I'M TELLING YOU, I AIN'T GOT THAT BIG EXPENSE.
THAT'S A LOT WHEN YOU START ADDING UP.
SO WELL, Y'ALL ALL KNOW ABOUT IT WHEN IT'S AN UNEXPECTED NEEDS HAPPENING.
I DON'T MEAN YOU DON'T TO HAVE A CHOICE, THAT'S IT? SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME ANYTIME.
I PROBABLY JUMPED BEFORE MONIQUE EXCEPT SHARE, PROBABLY JUMPED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
DOES, SHOULD HAVE WHAT MADE CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS SHEET? UM, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WE HAD, WE HAD POSITIONS SHOWN IN THERE LAST TIME, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OVERHEAD, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY, RETIREMENT, ALL THAT STUFF.
KAREN PROVIDED THAT SPREADSHEET.
AND UH, AND SO JERRY PLUGGED THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE.
SO NOW THE NUMBERS FOR AN EXTRA POSITION YOU'RE SEEING IS YOU'RE SEEING THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THAT NUMBER INSTEAD OF JUST THE SALARY ITSELF.
ALSO INCLUDES THERE ARE OTHERS, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE LONGEVITY.
SO IT'S TRUE IN UP ALL THAT LONGEVITY FOR EMPLOYEES TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A PAY REQUEST.
THAT'S PART OF A PART OF THE OTHER PACKET.
SO WE TRUED UP ALL THE LONGEVITY THROUGHOUT THE WORKBOOK AS WELL.
UM, SO I GUESS THEN WE'LL, WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT IS MONIQUE IS GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT HER REQUESTS FOR INCREASED POSITIONS.
AND THEN I ASKED BOBBY TO COME IN BECAUSE, UH, BOBBY'S DEPARTMENT HAS SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE INCREASE.
I JUST WANT HIM TO GIVE US A DETAIL OF WHAT HE'S PLANNING THERE.
SO MONIQUE, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR OTHER POSITIONS? WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON 19TH? ARE WE ON 19? OKAY.
WE'RE ON PAGE NINE PAGES TURNING I'M LIKE, ARE WE READY? UM, OKAY.
SO TECHNICALLY I ASKED FOR A, UM, GIS TECH AND TO TAKE MY, UM, EXTRA HELP AND TURN HER INTO A MONITOR FIVE FULL TIME.
I'D GET RID OF THE EXTRA LINE, THE EXTRA HELP LINE ITEM AND JUST MAKE HER, UM, A MODIFIED FULL TIME, WHICH WOULD BE $25,000 A YEAR POSITION.
SO I HAVE RIGHT NOW, FOUR CLERKS, TECHNICALLY I HAVE THREE CLERKS DOING SEPTIC AND THEN CHELSEA IS DOING SUBDIVISIONS AND TRYING TO CROSS TRAIN ON SUBDIVISIONS.
UM, WE GO TO COURT IN, IN CAMP.
SO WHEN SOMEONE'S SICK AND WE'RE IN COURT, THAT LEAVES ME WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE CLERK UNTIL THE PART TIME GIRL ARRIVES AT 10 O'CLOCK.
SO IT REALLY LEAVES US CONSIDERABLY SHORT-STAFFED.
UM, DEB HAS FILLED IN ON ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES ON MATERNITY LEAVE SHE'S YOU KNOW, AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO 32 HOURS AND I'D LIKE TO KEEP HER BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER TO KEEP HER LONGER HOURS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS WE'VE HAD WITH MATERNITY AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF STAFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO TWO COURT DATES A MONTH NOW.
SO WE LEAVE THE OFFICE AND GO TO THE COURTHOUSE AND IT LEAVES MY OFFICE WITH ONE CLERK TO ANSWER THE AMOUNT OF PHONE CALLS AND INPUT THE DATA.
AND SO IT LEAVES US VERY SHORT STAFFED.
SO SHE DOES 25 HOURS JUST LIKE TO PUSH HER TO 32.
AND, UM, KAREN, YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS.
I, AND CAUSE IF IN CASE I EXPLAIN IT WRONG, BUT ACCORDING TO MARY, SHE WOULD, SHE GETS MEDICAL BENEFITS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT SHE WOULD NOT GET PAID HOLIDAYS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE AS A MODIFIED FULL TIME, 32 HOURS.
WHEN WE'RE CLOSED, SHE DOESN'T GET PAID QUESTIONS ON THE MODIFIED ONE.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHAT'S THE IMPACT BETWEEN A, I'M NEVER A FAN OF THESE PART TIME THINGS, BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 32 HOURS AND 40 HOURS? IS THAT HOW SIGNIFICANT MEAN YOU GO TO YOU TO GO TO YOUR BASE MINIMUM? HOW AND WHAT? OUR MINIMUM IS THREE, FOUR, ONE, ONE FOUR 44.
SO THAT'S PLUS THE RETIREMENT AND THE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING OUT.
ANOTHER 17, 18% ON TOP OF THAT.
ALL IN ON A 34 POSITION IS 50, BUT THAT PERSON DOESN'T GET, IF IT'S MODIFIED, UH, IT DOESN'T GET VACATION.
THEY GET BENEFITS ALREADY, BUT THEY DON'T GET VACATIONS.
SHOULD THEY GET SICK LEAVE? I HAVE NO IDEA.
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GET SICK.I MEAN, THE INSURANCE, THEY DON'T GET SICK.
ANY OF THAT, SHE DOES NOT GET MEDICAL RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU WOULD BE ADDING THE MEDICAL END AND THE 25,000 SALARY THE WAY I SAW IT.
BUT YOU'D HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT ABOUT A $10,000 DIFFERENCE.
IT SOUNDED LIKE, I KNOW WE'RE I KNOW WE'RE STRUGGLING FOR MONEY NOW, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I DON'T, I'VE NEVER, I DON'T THINK THESE PART-TIME THINGS FOR THE, FOR 10,000 MORE DOLLARS AND THAT THE BENEFIT TO THE SYSTEM, UH, NOT A BIG PART TIME PERSON IS THE PERSON THAT WORKING IN THAT JOB.
DOES THAT PERSON WANT TO WORK FULL TIME? YEAH, I DID NOT WANT THE FULL 40, WELL, THAT MAY BE THE DECIDING FACTOR THOUGH.
IF THAT PERSON DOESN'T WHATEVER FAMILY SITUATION OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THAT PERSON.
WELL, IT'S TRULY, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY, RIGHT? WELL, SHE, I WILL SAY THAT SHE HAS STEPPED UP AND SAVED OUR BUD MANY TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
AND YOU KNOW, SHE, I BELIEVE THAT HER HUSBAND HAS A BUSINESS AND SHE RUNS HIS BOOKS IN THE MORNING.
SO THOSE EIGHT HOURS THAT SHE'S SO SHE CAN KEEP HER HUSBANDS.
SO IF YOU HAD A REALLY GREAT EMPLOYEE YES.
IF HE HAD A REALLY GREAT EMPLOYEE THAT, THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY, YOU JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE HIM AND IT PUTTING THEM UP, MAKING THEM WORK 40 HOURS, THEY WERE, THEY JUST, THAT WASN'T GONNA WORK FOR THEIR, I MEAN, OKAY.
I THINK THEIR RETIREMENT, THEY WANT IT NOW.
AND WHAT IT WOULD, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR ME TO SAY, YOU KNOW, KEEP MY EXTRA LINE ITEM AND, OR EXTRA HELP AND THEN HIRE SOMEONE IN BY THE TIME I TRAIN THEM.
I'M SHORT-STAFFED UNTIL I GET THEM TRAINED.
SO ARE WE SEEING A PRETTY GOOD REVENUE INCREASE THOUGH IN YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH ALL THE PERMITS AND STUFF WITH ALL THEM NEW CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE? WELL, IN THE AD DRESSING ALONE IN THE AD DRESSING ALONE.
IN FACT, I GOT A CALL FROM KW ON TIME AND HE'S LIKE, OH, IS THERE AN ERROR HERE? BECAUSE WE WENT FROM 9,000 TO 80,000 AND ADDRESS FEES.
I SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE THERE WAS A GAP WHERE THE LAST YEAR THEY WEREN'T CHARGING, THEY WEREN'T CHARGING SUBDIVISIONS.
WHAT WAS HAPPENING ONLY GETS, SHOULD GET A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT IS THAT IF A, IF AN INDIVIDUAL WANTED TO GET A GIS ADDRESS, THEY HAD TO PAY $40 A DEVELOPER THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A THOUSAND HOUSES OR WHATEVER THEY WERE PAYING FOR ADDRESSING.
SO, UH, THAT OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T FAIR AND I HEAR ABOUT IT.
BUT THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION BECAUSE THE LAST, UM, I BELIEVE THE LAST GIS TECH THOUGHT THAT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE $600 PLAT APPLICATION FEE.
SO, UM, WE WERE COLLECTING THOSE AND I EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO PROBABLY WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN.
I EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO DOUBLE YEAH.
CAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN DONE YET THIS YEAR.
WE DO HAVE SOME CITIES THAT ARE GETTING GIS SITUATED.
AND ONCE THEY DO TAKE THAT OVER, THEY WOULD COLLECT WHATEVER FEE FOR THE ADDRESSES, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ADDRESS INTO THE ARK.
THEY SAW THE HANDWRITING ON THE WALL AND LET'S TAKE IT.
SO KELLY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH FORNEY AND IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR GIS, BUT THEY ARE NOT READY YET.
WELL, AND I NEED TO CLARIFY THIS, BUT, UM, IN THERE IT WOULD DEPEND WHAT THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT SAID IN THE ETJ, AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY LIMITS.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CONTROL IT NEEDS.
AND I, I'M STILL WAITING ON CONFIRMATION OF THAT.
SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE ETJ, NOT SO SURE.
AND I'M FINDING CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
DID WE WIN? WE SET THEM FOR HEATH.
DID WE SET THE NUMBERS FOR HEATH? OKAY.
SO FOR HEATH, UM, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT AND, UM, ESPECIALLY THE YACHT CLUB, RIGHT.
THEY DID THE ADDRESSES, BUT THEY SUBMITTED IT TO US FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN WE HAD TO RELEASE ADDRESSES.
YEAH, NO, WE DID NOT BREAK IT BECAUSE THEY THAT'S ALL THEY DO THEN LIKE TRY TO CLICK, THEY WERE FAKE HE'S STUFF ON IT.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UH, COURT CASES THAT Y'ALL DO ON SEPTIC? OH
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GOSH.HOW MANY DO WE FILE ON AS OPPOSED TO HOW MANY WE ACTUALLY GET TO GO INTO COURT? YEAH.
HOW MANY DID HE GO TO COURT PARTY YET? A NUMBER OF THEM.
UM, OH, I HAD THOSE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THEM FROM THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE COVID THING WOULD'VE TOTALLY RUINED THE AMOUNT OF CASES WE, WE FILE.
WE PROBABLY FILE ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO A HUNDRED CASES PER COURT DOCKET.
AND WE HAVE ONE DOCKET PER MONTH.
I HAVE ASKED, UM, UM, JUDGE ADAM, IF WE CAN PLEASE HAVE TO, BECAUSE IT'S TOO LONG, A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE WE CAN GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE JUST MINOR INFRACTIONS OR NON-CONTRACT, OR NO INSPECTIONS BEING DONE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO TWO A MONTH.
SO WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY A LARGER DOCKET BECAUSE WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT DOCKET, INSTRUCT THEM, UM, AUGUST IS WHAT HE TOLD ME.
SO HOPEFULLY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, AND HE WILL HANDLE ALL THE THREE, SIX, SIX VIOLATIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO, UM, UH, THE THREE 40 ONES IN JUDGE BARDEN SCORE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO NOW BE AT THAT COURT AS WELL FOR THE ABATEMENT PORTION OF, OR THE, THE RAW SEWAGE ON THE GROUND, 96 HOURS.
SO WE'LL HAVE MORE COURT DATES ON TOP OF THAT.
SO, WELL, MAYBE THAT'LL GET, MAYBE WORD WILL GET OUT ABOUT THAT INITIATIVE AND PEOPLE WILL REALIZE THAT THEY JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FIX HER PROBLEM.
WE, I MEAN THE WHOLE POINT
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GO BIG LIMIT RIGHT.
THEN, UH, THAT ALSO PLAYS A FACTOR IN THAT EMPLOYEE BECAUSE I GOT TO HAVE STAFF IN THE OFFICE WHILE WE'RE WELL, I KNOW.
AND THEY ASK WHY SOME BEFORE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A JB, CAUSE I KNOW MINE, JP TALKS ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
WHY AND WHEN DO WE DO IT? JUST IN ONE GO, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS DECIDED, UM, A LONG TIME AGO THAT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT JUDGE BARDEN HANDLES ENVIRONMENTAL FOR THE NUISANCE.
SO IT MADE SENSE THAT THE ABATEMENT PORTION WOULD GO THROUGH HER.
YOU KNOW, IN THE SEPTIC PERIOD.
CAUSE I MEAN, IF THEY'RE IN THEIR PRECINCT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THEY WANT TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF A PERSON LIVES IN ALMOST TEETH, THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO GO TO CAMP AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS CHIEF, WHEN THAT FIRST STARTED, I WAS TRYING TO KEEP CONSISTENT IN THAT MATTER BY ONE JUDGE HANDLING IT TO BE MORE CONSISTENT IN HOW THEY'RE BILLING OUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT MEN IN THAT ONE, JUDGE HANDLING ALL THAT.
I MEAN THE LAWS LAW THAT'S MADE LIKE COUNTY COURT AND DISTRICT CARDS, YOU GOT A DIFFERENT DISTRICT COURT, YOU GOT TWO MURDER CASES, IT'S EIGHT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU GUYS IN YOUR JPS, HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO WORK, THAT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT IN THE PRIESTHOOD, IF IT SAVED TIME AND MONEY TOO, BECAUSE IF, IF THE ONES THAT WERE ALL HANDLING THE PRAISING LUNCH, HE DIDN'T GO AS FAR TO GO TO COURT TOO.
AND IN THE SAME WAY, YOU KNOW, IF SHE GOES TO THE COORDINATION THAT THAT WOULD TAKE, TRYING TO GET THE COURT DATES IN ALL FOUR AND SENDING STAFF TO BE IN COURT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE JERRY AND WAYNE, 1% THE CASE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY COORDINATE THAT AND GET THAT REALLY STRONG.
JUST THE SAME ONE, ONE A WEEK.
YOU KNOW, BAM YOU'D HAVE FOUR COURTS, MAN.
SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE A, YOU'D HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU GUYS IN THE JP.
AND I CAN, I CAN BRING THAT AS A DISCUSSION.
IF YOU WANT ON AN AGENDA ITEM, WE CAN, I ALWAYS BRING UP REVENUES IN JP COURTS, BUT WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE IT EQUALIZED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE WAY THE COURTS ARE SELECTING WHERE THEY GO.
SO ONE COURT HANDLES 300 CASES IN ONE THING AND ANOTHER ONE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
THERE'S A BIG LOPSIDED DIFFERENCE.
IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ALL TOGETHER AND I'M SURE JERRY AND, AND, UH, AND OUR GOOD A HUNDRED OR OVER HERE CAN WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT OUTLET.
AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO NOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT JUDGES AND THEY'RE ALL THINKING DIFFERENT, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE TO DEFINITELY NEW ONES, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S GOOD.
IT'S REALLY UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
JP, I THINK INDIVIDUAL JP, IF ONE OF THEM DECIDES THEY WANT TO HEAR ALL OF THE CASES IN THEIR PRECINCT, I THINK THAT'S THERE.
BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO PREPARE THE DOCKET, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE SEND THE VIOLATIONS TO THEM.
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THEN THE JP COURT SENDS THE LETTER TO THE HOMEOWNER.AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT IN FOUR DIFFERENT PRECINCTS, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, STRENUOUS OR CONFUSING, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN WORK IT HOWEVER WE WANT TO WORK IT.
I MEAN, WE JUST GOTTA, WE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ON HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK SO I CAN GET THE STAFF TO, TO PROCESS THAT.
CAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, WAS THIS IN THIS PRECINCT, WAS THIS IN THIS PRECINCT, YOU NEED TO FILE IT WITH THIS JUDGE.
ENVIRONMENTAL OFFERS DIVIDED UP TOO.
THEY'RE WORKING THEIR PRECINCTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
I'M JUST SAYING, THIS SEEMS TO ME THAT WE RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.
DON'T ANYWAY, I'M ALL FOR NOT SAYING YOU'RE CHANGING ANYTHING.
IT ISN'T ABOUT CHANGING ANYTHING.
WELL, THAT'S NOT MY DECISION, SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT ONE.
I MEAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
SO DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE GIS? WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT, RIGHT? LET'S GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
GO THROUGH ALL YOUR POSSESSIONS VACATION FOR ALL YOUR POSITIONING.
I WAS LIKE, I SHOULD JUST TEXT IN.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS WERE DISCUSSING THIS WITH RON? SO THE GIS TECH THAT I ASKED FOR IS AN IN OFFICE IN HOUSE WOULD BE WORKING ON THE PORTAL AND THE SOFTWARE ALONG WITH KELLY PROCESSING ADDRESSES, IT'S AN IN HOUSE JOB.
WHAT RON IS WANTING IS A GIS TECH.
THAT'S A FIELD TECH THAT GOES OUT IN THE COUNTY, UM, AND BRINGS BACK DATA TO THE GIS.
NOW YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET HIM RON'S TECH.
IF HE'S GOING TO DO GIS, HE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE FOR THAT AS RE SOFTWARE.
I JUST TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T THINK THAT.
AND I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT CONVERSATION LISTENING TO IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, WAS BROAD, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US, I MEAN, I THINK WHEN WE DECIDED ON RON'S POSITION IS TO GET THIS POINT, WE'LL GET THE NUMBERS, WORK OUT IT TO PROVIDE A POSITION FOR HIM TO HAVE A TECH, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST WANTED TO CLICK ON THE GIS SYSTEM.
THAT WAS NOT, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS OUR INTENTION.
THAT'S WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND THAT'S WHAT I POINTED OUT WHEN WE WERE DOING THING AND WE NEEDED TO DO THE GRANT, IF WE'RE GOING TO OKAY.
THAT GRANT, AND THIS IS WHERE RON'S TECH COMES IN, THAT GRANT IS THROUGH THE COG.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME TRANSPORTATION IT'S DEALS WITH THE ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT IS NOT THE NCT NINE ONE, ONE THAT THE GIS THAT WE USE, RIGHT? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT.
AND WHEN YOU USE, IT'S NOT, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO MY GIS BECAUSE COG AND NCT HAVE THEY SEPARATED TWO YEARS AGO, THE NCT DISTRICT IS ITS OWN DISTRICT.
THE GRANT FOR THE COG IS SOMETHING ELSE.
AND DAVID LINDSAY, I REACHED OUT TO HIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS IN COG THAT HE TALKS TO.
AND I SAID, CAN YOU REALLY BREAK THIS DOWN ON THAT? SO I CAN PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS.
AND HE'S LOOKING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT EXACTLY THAT GRANT IS GOING TO HELP PAY FOR, BUT IT DOES NOT COVER MY SIDE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT IT COULD HELP WITH A TECH, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO GIS FOR THE COG ON THE GROUND, WITH THE TRENDAL, WHICH IS RIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN.
CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY CONFUSING ON THE TWO FACETS.
MORAL AND FLOOD WHEN IT WAS ELLEN PLAN, NO COME AND VISIT.
WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON WITH FLOOD.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE COG ON THIS, ON THIS GRANT THAT THEY'RE APPLYING.
WHAT'S THE POSSIBILITY OF COMBINING RON'S TECH AND YOUR GIS TECHNIQUE IS THAT COULD NET, IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT RON'S TECH WOULD BE IN THE FIELD MORE THAN HE WOULD BE IN THE OFFICE.
SO HOW WOULD THAT, HOW WOULD THE WORKLOAD BE DIVIDED BETWEEN KELLY? WHO'S DOING ALL THE GIS, ADDRESSING THAT.
SHE'S DOING ALL THE GIS WORK NOW BASICALLY, UNLESS YOU, JERRY, JERRY DOES THE PRELIMINARY ADDRESSES FOR HER AND HE GETS ALL THE NUMBERS IN AND CHECKS ALL THE, UH, IF IT'S THE PROPERTY LINES ARE RIGHT.
THAT IT, UH, HE PASSES IT TO KELLY AND SHE, AND PUTS IT INTO THAT SOFTWARE.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UH, KELLY'S POSITION AND THIS NEW POSITION.
SO THEN IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, SHE CAME TO YOU GUYS, THERE'S A PORTAL OUT THERE.
SO SHE'S GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT, LET ME EXPLAIN IT, GET IT RIGHT.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M NOT BIG ON GIS TOO.
SHE HAS THE MASTER'S DEGREE, BUT BASICALLY YOU GET ALL THESE LAYERS AND YOU PUT THEM INTO A LIBRARY.
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DEPEND ON WHO CAN VIEW WHAT LAYER SHE'S GOING TO MANAGE.ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT THIS GIS PORTAL TO GIVE US ALL THE INFORMATION HE CAN POSSIBLY GIVE US.
SO SHE WOULD MANAGE THE INFORMATION IN THE PORTAL AND ALLOW THOSE LAYERS TO BE ADDED IN SHARED, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAYERS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION OR UTILITY POLE IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION AND CULVER ABOUT ROAD, WORK THROUGH TRUCK SIGNS.
YOU CAN DO A LAYER THAT IT'S LIMITLESS ON WHAT YOU CAN PUT INTO THAT PORTAL AND ACCESS THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE MONITORED MANAGED AND ALLOWED AND VIEWED.
AND SO, AND OF COURSE OUR OLD SYSTEM FAILED AND WE'RE CLEANING UP THE DATA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSFER.
SO THAT ITSELF IS A FULL TIME JOB.
IF YOU WANT IT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO, WHICH IS IT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC TOOL.
WE ALSO HAVE KELLY DOING FLOOD PLAIN PERMITS.
SHE ALSO HAS TO REVIEW ALL THE APPLICATIONS.
SO THE TIME THAT SHE SPENT IN ALL THE PAPERWORK AND THE DATA CLEANUP TAKES AWAY FROM THE PORTAL.
SO JERRY HELPS AS MUCH AS HE CAN, BUT IN THE BUSY SEASON, WHEN SEPTICS ARE GOING IN THE GROUND AS TO WHERE JERRY'S MAIN GOAL IS.
SO HE HELPS HER OUT BY TACKLING THAT STUFF IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON.
BUT JERRY'S ALSO HELPING THE FLOODPLAIN PERMITS IF KELLY GOES ON VACATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE PEOPLE SHARING HATS AND YOU KNOW, WE GET IT DONE.
SO THE NEW PERSON WILL BE DOING WHAT THE NEW PERSON WILL BE DOING.
ALL THE APPLICATIONS, GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS, CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT ILLEGALLY SUBDIVIDING, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS BEFORE WE CAN EVEN ISSUE AN ADDRESS.
ALL THAT PR ALL THAT STUFF AND THEN PUSHING IT TO KELLY.
AND SHE WILL PUT IT IN THE ARK NEXT YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, WELL THIS YEAR I HAVE IT IN MY BUDGET TO GET HIM THE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS $7,000.
PLUS HE HAS TO GET THE, I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAVE THE, AS RECERTIFICATION ALREADY.
AND THEY COULD BOTH TACKLE INPUTTING DATA.
HE BEING JERRY? NO, HE BEING THE NEW TECH.
JERRY SITS DOWN WITH SUBDIVISIONS.
YES, HE DOES PRELIMINARY ADDRESSING THE, HE THREW ME OFF.
THE PERSON, LET ME NOT BE OKAY.
I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, JESSIE, SHE ALSO CREATES ALL THE MAPS.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT'S THROWING EVERYBODY OFF.
CAUSE WE ACT LIKE IT WAS JEREMY.
CAUSE HE KEPT SAYING HE AND OH, I'M SORRY.
JERRY DOES A PRELIMINARY, PASSES IT TO HER.
HE DOES NOT ENTER INTO THE ARC.
ALTHOUGH HE HAS LEARNED, HE HAS THE AIR AS RE SOFTWARE OR CERTIFICATION.
AND KELLY HAS SHOWED HIM HOW TO ENTER ADDRESSES, NOT LAYERING.
WHAT IS THIS NEW PERSON AND SALARY 35.
BUT SO MONIQUE, ALONG WITH ALL THESE NEW BODIES COMES A SPACE ISSUE.
AND I KNOW THE JUDGE MENTIONED THAT IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT YOU HAD SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHAT YOUR SPACE NEEDS WOULD BE.
IS ANY OF THAT IN HERE? UH, YES.
WELL, IT'S ON THE EXHIBIT THAT I GAVE YOU AND IT'S A GOOD THING TO BOBBY'S HERE CAUSE OKAY.
SO I BASICALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES THAT I'M ASKING FOR.
CAUSE IF I DON'T GET SPACE, I DON'T NEED THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT NOWHERE TO PUT THEM.
SO THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND.
THE UPSTAIRS OF THIS BUILDING HAS, UM, A TON OF SPACE.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED.
I WAS HOPING TO USE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE GOT ON THE ADDRESS THING.
SO IT MIGHT NOT COST YOU ON BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING THAT AMOUNT OF REVENUE, MAYBE THAT YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY TO RENOVATE THE UPSTAIRS.
UH, BOBBY GAVE ME A QUOTE FOR A HUNDRED THAT WAS WITH THE CONFERENCE ROOM EXPANDED DOWNSTAIRS.
SO IF WE WANT TO BREAK IT UP INTO TWO PARTS, WE COULD DO THE UPSTAIRS 75.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE US INTO THE COURTHOUSE IN FOUR YEARS, IT REALLY GETS YOUR RESALE VALUE UP.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT MONEY BACK WHEN YOU SELL IT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE A COMPLETE TWO STORY RENOVATED BUILDING.
THERE'S A GOOD NEWS IS WHEN WE OPENED THE JUSTICE CENTER, IT'S GOING TO FREE UP A WHOLE LOT OF SPACE FOR US.
ALL OF THESE SPACES ARE GOING TO KIND OF GO AND WAIT AND MAKE MONEY WITH GOOD LUCK.
BUT THE CONFERENCE, I DON'T HAVE A CONFERENCE ROOM RIGHT NOW.
WE MEET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM.
UM, BECAUSE WE DID PUT RON IN THE SMALL CONFERENCE ROOM THAT WE HAD, IT WAS WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE SPACE.
UM, SO THE RENOVATION UPSTAIRS PUT, UM, RON, AND IF YOU GET HIM A TECH, HIS TECH UPSTAIRS, IT WOULD PUT GIS KELLY'S COMMAND CENTER UPSTAIRS.
UM, AND IT WOULD FREE UP THE SPACE DOWNSTAIRS FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL TO ENLARGE THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
AND I GOT A CAPITAL OUTLAY SHEET FROM RAELYNN AND, UM, SO THAT WE WOULD GET ORDERED TRAINING TABLES AND CHAIRS INSTEAD OF ONE BIG CONFERENCE TABLE.
AND THEN THAT ROOM CAN BE UTILIZED BY THE COUNTY AS ANOTHER PLACE TO MEET IF NEED BE
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BOBBY WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE SPACE ISSUE.SO BASICALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, WELL, LET'S FINISH WITH MONIQUE'S POSITION AND THEN ARMS POSITION TALK THAT'S OKAY.
AND THEN, CAUSE I ASKED BOBBY TO COME TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT STUFF IN HIS BUDGET AND HE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.
AND THEN ONE MORE THING IS IF YOU NOTICE ON A, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM ON A 32 17 ACCOUNT, I PUT WILL REMAIN THE SAME IF NO ADDITIONAL DRA IS GRANTED.
AND I FORGOT TO PUT IN THAT I NEEDED A DR.
HE WOULD DO INSPECTIONS JUST OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS, UH, AUTHORIZATIONS TO CONSTRUCT WOULD NOT BE SWORN IN UNDER THE HEALTH AUTHORITY.
HE WOULD NOT DO ENVIRONMENTAL.
HE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE DR POSITION FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU COULD EVEN TRAIN TO EVEN BE UNDER THE HEALTH AUTHORITY, BUT WITH EVERY NEW SEPTIC IN THE GROUND DUE TO THE GROWTH, THAT'S A LOT MORE DRS YOU NEED OUT THERE GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO DIG, GOING OUT AND INSPECTING THE DIG, SIGNING OFF ON THE DESC IN A VEHICLE AS WELL.
WELL, I WAS TRYING TO THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO ROLL AROUND IN THE NINE ONE ONE CAR, BUT I HAVE A NINE ONE, ONE CAR THAT DOESN'T GET USED A LOT.
I COULD, YOU KNOW, SEND THEM OUT THERE AND THE SMALLER CAR ELECTRIC CAR.
IT'S A FORD ESCAPE OR FOUR TO EDGE.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT GETS USED, BUT VERY RARELY.
SO, I MEAN, THE DR JUST NEEDS TO SHOW UP TO THE LOCATION AND INSPECT THE SITE.
SO IF I HAD TO PUT THAT OFF UNTIL THE FLEET CAN GET ONE NEXT YEAR, I CAN DO THAT.
SO WE'VE COVERED ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT MONIQUE HAS ASKED FOR AND JUST THAT DVR IS NOT IN THIS MATH, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT PACE? A D R IS, UM, I THINK IT'S 35.
CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A NORMAL DR ANYMORE.
KAREN, DO YOU KNOW THAT? I THINK IT'S THE, WHAT THE DR.
CAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY AT BASE ANYMORE.
SO WHAT'S IN THE MATH IS 1.5 POSITIONS.
SO ADD ANOTHER 50,000
YOU DON'T WANT TO ROLL WITH THAT? YEAH, IT'LL BE A TECH AND A DR.
AND THEN IF IT DIDN'T APPROVE OF THE TECH THEM, THE, UH, THE DIS THE LAYERS WOULD JUST SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND THE APPLICATIONS AND THE FLOOD PLAIN, ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO BRING THE FLOOD PLAIN TO COURT FOR, TO SEE IF RON CAN CAUSE SHE DOES FLOOD PLAIN PERMITS, MAP CREATION, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE CAN LEAVE HIM IN THERE FOR THE MOMENT AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
SEE IF WE CAN ROUND UP THE MONEY.
IT SHOULDN'T BE A DVR BECAUSE SANITATION IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
AND IF YOU NOTICE I HAD THE TITLE CHANGE OVER HERE IN THE NOTES.
AND I DID THE, I DID THE TITLE CHANGE WHEN THEY WERE SWORN IN UNDER THE HEALTH.
AND I CREATED A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THAT TITLE.
IN THE OSS WICHITA, THAT'S IT? OSS F IS ONSITE SEWAGE, BUT WHAT WOULD THE TITLE BE? MAN? IT WOULD BE AN OSS F INSPECTOR.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SAYS ROLL WITH THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK THE MONEY OUT.
IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO? YEAH, I AGREE.
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OKAY.WELL, I MEAN, SOME OF THEM, WELL, IT WOULD BE THIS ONE, CAUSE WE MIGHT COME BACK FOR IT.
CAN'T BUY A CAR IF YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO STICK AROUND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND BOBBY'S GOING TO FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.
YOU WANT TO HANG AROUND AND I WILL, IF WE CAN GET BOBBY TO STEP UP AND YOU'RE ON PAGE, WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON? JERRY 18 ONE FIVE ONE EIGHT ONE EIGHT.
WE FIXED ALL THE SALARIES AND GOT ALL THAT IN THERE.
I BELIEVE WHAT THE JUDGE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.
IT ARE YOUR OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF WAGES.
YOU GOT SPECIFICALLY, YOU GET THREE, THREE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS IN THERE.
UH, COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS, ERIC COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS IS A, YOU'RE ASKING FOR 239,000.
THAT WAS A $30,000 ITEM THIS YEAR, AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING.
WE HAD 55,000 THIS YEAR AND WE'RE GONNA ASK HIM FOR ONE 80 AND THEN, UH, SUB COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO THE FIRST THING THAT I HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT IS ARE THERE ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL WE GET THE RESULTS OF OUR, UH, OF THE FACILITY STUDY? THAT IS THAT WON'T BE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE WRITTEN VERY FOR US BY THE TIME BUDGET IS PUT TO BED.
UM, SO WHEREAS ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE A PLAN HERE THAT WE DO.
AND THEN THE FACILITY STUDY SAYS, OH NO, YOU NEED TO TEAR THAT BUILDING DOWN.
UM, SO THE WAY I WAS THINKING OF THIS TO JUDGE WAS I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A PLACE HOLDER IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR FOR THIS, BUT I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE BOND MONEY THAT WILL PAY TO FIX SOME OF THIS STUFF LIKE THE COURTHOUSE, UM, THE SUB COURTHOUSES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SUB COURTHOUSES.
THE ONE THING WE HAVEN'T DONE IS LIKE CARPET AND, UH, WELL WE'VE DONE THE JPS OFFICES, BUT THE OTHER AREAS, I THINK WE NEED TO PAINT, REPLACE CARPET IN BECAUSE THAT CARPET IS EXTREMELY OLD, MORE OUT.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS BOND MONEY IN THERE TO FIX THOSE COURTHOUSES.
BUT I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS AS A PLACEHOLDER IN MY BUDGET THIS YEAR IN CASE THAT DOESN'T SO W WHAT IS 230, $9,000? UH, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME? WHAT'S SORRY, THAT'S ON THE COURTHOUSE.
SO, UM, I'VE GOT A QUOTE AND IT'S SEVERAL, A FEW YEARS OLD, BUT IT WAS 150,000 FOR A NEW ROOF.
DID WE DO PART OF THAT ROAD? NO, SIR.
WHAT HAPPENED? WE KEPT GETTING GOATS AND QUOTES AND STUFF, BUT WE NEVER PROCEEDED WITH IT.
NOBODY EVER PULLED THE TRIGGER TO GET IT DONE.
UM, THERE WAS 50,000 IN THERE TO RESEAL ALL THE WINDOWS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH THEY NEED TO BE DONE.
UM, WE HAD $10,000 IN THERE FOR ACCENT LIGHTING ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY AROUND TO WHERE IT LASTS THE COURTHOUSE, UH, MAKES IT LOOK GOOD AT NIGHT TIME WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH, UM, WE HAD A $5,000 FOR EX, UH, EXTERIOR ELECTRICAL.
THEY HAVE THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL AND STUFF HERE AT THE, ON THE SQUARE.
AND WE HAVE AN ELECTRICAL PANEL IN THE BASEMENT THAT THEY TIE INTO AND THEY RUN CORDS ALL THE WAY UP.
SO MY THOUGHT WAS, INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM ACCESS TO THE COURTHOUSE, PUT IT UP ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHERE THEY COULD ACCESS IT EASILY.
AND IF SOMETHING TRIPS, THEY CAN RESET IT ON THE OUTSIDE INSTEAD OF HAVE TO COME INTO OUR COURTHOUSE.
UM, THERE'S A $10,000 ROOF DRAIN REPAIR AT THE COURTHOUSE, UM, $4,000 FOR A BASEMENT HALLWAY, THE HALLWAY FLOORING IN THE BASEMENT, AND THEN $10,000 FOR A NEW SEWER PUMP.
AND CURRENTLY THE SEWER PUMPS THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING.
ONE OF THEM IS NOT OPERABLE AND THE OTHER ONE WE JUST FIXED, BUT IT IS AS OLD AS THE BUILDING IS.
UH, SO FINDING PEOPLE TO REPAIR THAT IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT.
SO MY THOUGHT WAS, WAS JUST UPDATED TO THE NEW STUFF THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
THAT'S FOR THE COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, W AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LONG TIME AGO.
HERE'S WHAT I REMEMBER ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION THAT THE ROOF ISN'T LEAKING CURRENTLY NOT, AND IT SEEMS TO BE IN FAIRLY GOOD SHAPE.
SO THE, UH, THE UPPER LEVEL, CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LOWER
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LEVELS.AND THEN ONE UPPER LEVEL, THE UPPER LEVEL HAS A TAR AND GRAVEL ROOF ON IT.
THE TWO LOWER LEVELS HAVE BEEN SPRAY FOAM.
IT'S GOT A FOAM CODING AND STUFF.
UM, THE TWO LOWER LEVELS, THEY LOOK HORRIBLE.
I MEAN, IF YOU GET ON GOOGLE MAPS AND YOU LOOK AT THEM, YOU CAN SEE THEM.
BUT, UM, THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MAINTENANCE DONE, RATHER IF WE REPLACE THEM OR DON'T REPLACE THEM.
I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO IN, UM, AND AT LEAST CUT MAYBE ONE OR TWO INCHES OF FOAM OFF OF IT AND THEN RE FOAM IT AND RESEAL IT.
AND THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE TWO LOWER SECTIONS.
AND THAT WOULD THAT'S PHONE ALARM MORE LIKE SHAVE IT OFF AND THEN RE DO IT.
AND TO DO THE TWO LOWER LEVELS, I THINK IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO ON THE PHONE WOULD BE AROUND 50 TO 60,000 FOR THEM TO REPAIR IT, TO CUT IT OFF, CUT OFF TO TWO INCHES OF FOAM RE FOAM IT, AND THEN PUT A URETHANE SEALER OVER THE TOP OF IT.
SO WE COULD BASICALLY BE ABOUT HALF OF THAT, UM, VERSUS TURN IT ALL OFF AND RESTART.
I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, I WOULD GUESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A TWO PROBABLY IN TWO YEARS, UH, THAT MAY BE TOO SHORT OF A TIME, MAYBE THREE YEARS TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
LET'S SAY THAT IN TWO YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING DISCUSSION.
WE WILL HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT REDOING RENOVATIONS ON THAT BUILDING.
UM, I CAN PROBABLY MAKE THIS LAST TWO YEARS, AT LEAST WHAT WE'VE GOT CAN MAKE THE LAST TWO YEARS.
I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN PASS HERE AND THERE AS NEEDED IF, IF IT ARISES DOING THAT.
WHO, WHO PUT THAT ONE THOUGH? I HAVE NO IDEA THAT THAT WAS LONG TIME OUT HERE.
SO JERRY, IF, UH, IF WE DO HAVE BOND FUNDING AVAILABLE, WELL, WHY DO WE NEED SEPARATE LINE ITEMS? YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMED TO ME TO BE DOUBLE ENCUMBERING, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, WELL, WHAT BOBBY IS DOING IS HE'S TRYING TO GET FEEL, HE'S TRYING TO BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, ON SOME THINGS BETWEEN NOW AND WHAT ENDS UP BEING THE INEVITABLE OF THE COURTHOUSE.
WHAT I'M HEARING HIM SAY IS HE CAN KEEP GRIPPING ALONG.
BUT MY ASK WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE PRIORITIZED, I WOULD SAY ON THE ROOF.
I THINK THE SEWER PUMP THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WON'T BE FOOLING AROUND WITH IT.
NO, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A NECESSITY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN PATCH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP PATCHING AND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE THAT WORK, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, I MEAN, ACCIDENT, LIGHTING, IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, THAT'S $10,000.
I THINK WE COULD WAIT ON RESELLING THE WINDOWS.
CAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS RENOVATION WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT ENCOMPASS THAT, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE BOND FUNDS.
SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS TO SPEND BOND MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE A CAPITAL PROJECT.
IT MAY BE RESELLING THE WINDOWS THAT EVEN DOING A ROOF WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CAPITAL PROJECT.
BUT, UH, I DON'T, I WOULD, I, WHAT I SORT OF THINK IS I'D LIKE FOR US TO, WHEN WE GET READY TO SPEND BOND MONEY ON THE COURTHOUSE, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WELL, IN THE TOP ROW, THAT'S OPERATING STALE, TAR AND GRAVEL.
THAT'S ONE THAT I'D MAKE SURE IT'S NOT LEAKING TO ME.
IT'S NOT, IF YOU GO TO 39 NOW.
30 LAST YEAR, IT'S THIS NUMBER? IS IT 50 THIS YEAR? IS IT 60? I THINK THAT'S THE ASK IS TO SCRUB THAT DOWN AND GET US A NUMBER THAT, THAT, THAT DOESN'T HAVE THESE BIG PROJECTS.
THEY TAKE OUT, TAKE OUT THESE MAJOR PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS RIPPING OUT FLOORS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND I GET IT A PUMP, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FAIL ON YOU.
I MEAN, I, IF, IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, WE WANT TO SAVE THOSE.
YOU WHAT I MEAN? BUT THAT WOULDN'T, YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT WOULDN'T YOU NEED $10,000 IN THERE FOR THAT PUMP.
ARE YOU THINKING I'M LOOKING AT THIS YEAR SO FAR, THIS YEAR TO BOBBY HAS SPENT 20 1003 88.
SO HE HAS SPENT MONEY ON THAT COURTHOUSE THIS YEAR.
SO THERE'S ONGOING MAINTENANCE REGARDLESS.
SO DO YOU THINK THIRTIES THE NUMBER OR DOES IT MEAN, YEAH, NO, NO.
WE CAN DO 30 IF WE DECIDE NOT TO DO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS AND WE SAVE THEM FOR THE FREMONT AND SEE, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW RYAN, THAT WAS PLANNING ON IT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, OR IS IT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE THE COURTHOUSE GETS REVAMPED? I DIDN'T KNOW.
SO I DIDN'T, WELL, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THROWING THAT DOWN.
I CAN'T SURE IT COULD BE THREE YEARS, BUT I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY WITHIN TWO YEARS WE SHOULD BE WELL INTO SOME SORT OF PLAN FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
UM, SO THAT MOVING DOWN TO THE AIR
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CONDITIONING HEATING YOU GOT, WE SPENT 55 OR WE BUDGETED 55 THIS YEAR.NO, WE SPENT WELL 55 SO FAR THIS YEAR AND YOU GOT 180 NOW.
I THINK THAT'S THE JUVENILE PROBATION BUILDING OR I'VE GOT A 22,000 IN THERE FOR THE JUVENILE PROBATION IS TO REPLACE THE HVHC IN BULLER.
I MEAN, IT IS LIVING ON BORROWED TIME AND, UH, WE'VE GOT 39,000 IN THERE FOR THE LIBRARY.
THAT'S ALL NEW HPAC SYSTEMS AT THE LIBRARY.
I THINK THERE'S A TOTAL OF SIX OR SEVEN UNITS, BUT THEY'RE ALL FROM THE NINETIES.
SO WE CONTINUOUSLY BUY PARKS AND RE FIX THEM TO KEEP THEM UP AND GOING IN THE FREON, FREON IS REALLY EXPENSIVE.
NO, I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU GOT AN AIR CONDITIONER IN THE NINETIES, YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO CUT YOUR ELECTRICITY USAGE IN HALF.
WELL, AND IF THEY COME PUT ONE POUND OF FREE ON IT IS $400 OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE SAYING IT AIN'T THAT MUCH, BUT IT'S RIDICULOUS.
AND THEN THE, A PRECINCT FOR SUB COURTHOUSE, I HAVE A 13,400 IN THERE FOR TWO NEW HPAC SYSTEMS THAT'S INSIDE AND OUTSIDE UNITS.
HOW OLD ARE THOSE? THOSE ARE IN FROM THE NINETIES NOW I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THEM.
THE, UH, THE ONE FOR THE JP COURT, WE WORK ON ALL THE TIME.
UM, THERE'S A 4,500 TO, UH, ADD A NEW UNIT AT THE EOC.
UM, THAT WOULD SEPARATE, UH, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES THERE.
THAT BUILDING THERE'S ONE THAT'S THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A MISTAKE IN THE DESIGN IS THAT THEY'RE SERVICING TWO ENDS OF THE BUILDING WITH ONE UNIT AND ONE UNIT, ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS HOT WITH THE SUN IS THE OTHER SIDE'S COLD AND THEN VICE VERSA AND THE POOR DESIGN.
AND THEN, UH, I HAVE A, A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THERE FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS.
BASICALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS EVERY THREE MONTHS WE HAVE A HVC COMPANY THAT COMES OUT AND THEY DO ALL THE SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE ON ALL OF OUR UNITS AND THAT'S THE WHOLE COUNTY.
UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR COMPRESSOR ON A 10 TON UNIT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, $4,000 AND THERE'S TWO U TWO COMPRESSORS ON THAT UNIT.
SO IT ADDS UP FAST, UM, TAKE THE SOUTH CAMPUS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, MAN, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S FIVE, SIX, 10 TON UNITS ON THE ROOF.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER FIVE IN THE RUN, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COURT BUILDING OVER THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF HVHC UNITS, JUDGE.
I MEAN A LOT OF AC HVAC, WE HAVE TOTAL OF 19 BUILDINGS, UM, AND THEY ALL HAVE HVHC.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU DID THAT ON A SIX MONTH CYCLE INSTEAD OF A THREE MONTH CYCLE, IS THAT REASONABLE OR NOT? UH, SO YOU DO A FALL, YOU DO A PRE WINTER AND A PRE-SUMMER PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
THESE UNITS RUN SO MUCH THAT IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY, I MEAN, DOING IT EVERY QUARTER, I THINK IS OUR BEST BET.
I THINK IT'S SAVED US A LOT OF MONEY LAST YEAR.
THE REASON WHY OUR BUDGET GOT CUT IS BECAUSE WE ORIGINALLY HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN OUR BUDGET AND THEY GOT A CUT TO 55,000 BECAUSE WE SAVED $45,000 BY DOING PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON THESE THINGS.
BUT, UM, ARE YOU TAKING, OR ARE YOU TAKEN OUT OF THAT, THAT CALCULATION? THE, OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO BE DOING QUARTERLY MAINTENANCE.
I WOULDN'T THINK ON THE JUVENILE, THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND THE LIBRARY AND PRECINCT FOUR, WOULD YOU, YOU WOULDN'T WANNA DO A QUARTERLY MAINTENANCE ON SOMETHING YOU JUST BOUGHT? YES, NO.
WE WOULD STILL DO MAINTENANCE ON THEM.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE'S BELTS, THERE'S PULLEYS, ALL THAT STUFF, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THOSE COME WITH LIKE A 10 YEAR WARRANTY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IF SOMETHING BREAKS ON THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S, IT'S COVERED UNDER THE WARRANTY.
UH, BUT FILTERS WILL STILL BE CHANGED.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING STARTS GOING BAD OR GOING SOUTH, THEN YES, WE WOULD STILL BE DOING QUARTERLY MAINTENANCE ON.
WE'RE GOING TO FIX NUMBER THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
IS THAT A QUOTED NUMBERS? THAT WHAT THAT IS FROM A SERVICE CONTRACTOR? NO, THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS, IS IT'S MINIMUM COMPARED TO OUR, OUR BUDGET FOR THE WHOLE THING.
THAT'S FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE WHOLE SOMETHING BREAKS AND THEY ABSOLUTELY CARDS AND ALL THAT.
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I GUESS, I CAN'T REMEMBER.I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU JUDGE THE CONTRACT PRICING FOR THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
WHAT'S THE NAME? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? TELL THE AUDITOR THE NAME OF THE COMPANY TO TELL YOU THE PRICE.
WHAT'D YOU DO THE REST OF THE COUNTY TO, OKAY.
I HAVE 57 UNITS ON TOP OF THAT.
NO, IT'S THE IT AND IT'S GOOD THING.
DID YOU TELL HER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? SHE DIDN'T TELL US SUPPRESS HOBBY.
TELL HER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY.
AND SHE'LL TELL HER IT'S A PRECISION AIR.
THEY DO THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IN THERE.
OH, YOU CAN'T GET ON THE INTERNET.
I DIDN'T HEAR ALL OF IN HERE, ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THAT NUMBER.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NUMBER YOU GOT FOR AC IS PRETTY, PRETTY SOLID.
UM, THE SUB COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE PUT $25,000 IN THERE FOR EACH SUB COURTHOUSE AND THAT WAS TO, YOU KNOW, TO DO PAINTING AND FLOORING AT ALL THE SUB COURTHOUSES TO BRING THEM KIND OF UP TO DATE.
UM, AGAIN, I WAS A PLACEHOLDER CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD WE WERE GOING TO BE BEFORE WE TOOK OFF WITH THE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THOSE CAN ALL THOSE CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT BEAR AND I DO, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE COULD, I WOULD THINK THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE THE YEAR FOR US TO BE, THIS WOULD NOT BE THE YEAR FOR US TO BE DOING THAT UNTIL WE GET THE PO POTENTIAL USE BOND MONEY FORWARD.
SO HOW MUCH OF THAT, COULD YOU TAKE OUT IF WE DIDN'T DO THOSE? IF WE DID THAT, THEN THAT W I MEAN, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE 25,000 ORIGINALLY THAT WAS THERE FOR ALL FOUR.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO Y'ALL FOR NOW? YEAH.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU GOT MONEY IN PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS.
YOU CAN MOVE IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE SEWER OR SOMETHING THAT YOU GOTTA YEP.
AND WE'LL HAVE THIS, WE'LL HAVE THIS, UH, THIS, UH, FACILITY STUDY.
AND AGAIN, IF THEY TELL US THAT WE NEED TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TEAR THIS BUILDING DOWN.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO SPEND $25,000 REPLACING THE CARPET.
HOW ABOUT THAT? AND WE'VE SPENT 14,000 SO FAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR, LAST YEAR WE SPENT 42 YEAR BEFORE WAS 82, 2017 WAS 132 POUNDS.
WHEN DID WE START THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, UM, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
WE STARTED IT THREE YEARS AGO COMING DOWN.
IT WAS, IT WAS A LOT HIGHER BEFORE THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A CONTRACT CHANGE, ALL THE FILTERS AND LOOKING AT BACK TO ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THAT LAKE, TRY TO FIND IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT? I'M LOOKING AT YEAR TO DATE, YOU SPENT ONE 83, YOU'VE GOT 400.
I'M ASSUMING MONIQUE IS DOLLARS ARE IN THERE.
MONIQUE'S DOES NOT SO THAT IN HER.
SO ON THE REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY, UM, WE HAD THREE 70, UH, ORIGINALLY, UM, I BUMPED IT TO 400,000, LIKE I SAID, THOUGH, THIS COVERS 19 TOTAL BUILDINGS.
UM, ONE THING THAT, UM, I WANT TO KEEP IN MIND HERE IS THAT I BELIEVE LAST YEAR Y'ALL RENEGOTIATED THE, UH, THE DEDUCTIBLES WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
UM, SO THIS YEAR WE WENT STORM, WE ASKED SOME STORM DAMAGE ON THE PORTABLE BUILDINGS BEHIND THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE BIG BUILDINGS WE GOT FROM CRANDALL ISD.
AND I HAD THE INSURANCE COMPANY COME OUT AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL REPLACE THEM, WHATEVER.
SO THEY CUT US A CHECK FOR LIKE 13,000, BUT THEY TOOK 10,000 FOR THE DEDUCTIBLE.
SO THAT LEFT US WITH $3,000 TO REPAIR, REPLACE ALL THE ROOFS ON THOSE BUILDINGS, WHICH CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO DO, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'LL OKAY.
HERE'S THE DEAL ON THAT? YOU CAN TELL ME WHERE THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
WE SPENT $180,000 SO FAR THIS YEAR ON REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY, WE GOT 180,000 AND LEFT.
I'D SAY WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT $225,000.
AND WELL, HAVE YOU BUDGETED TWO 25 INSTEAD OF 400? WHERE WHERE'S THE DOLLARS FOR THE ONE NEXT? ARE YOUR MODEL INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN MONIQUE'S BUDGET.
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SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT IN MY BUILDING.I DON'T THINK YOUR BUILDING WAS INCLUDED IN THAT FACILITY STUDY IT WASN'T.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN 200 OR I HEARD HERS WAS ONE 75 BY ITSELF.
NO, THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON MINE, ON MY BUDGET HERE ON THE REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, BREAKING DOWN ALL THE BUILDINGS TO 19 BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 400,000 THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $21,052 AND 63 CENTS PER BUILDING FOR REPAIRS.
I'M AT 400,000 WITH 19 BUILDINGS.
THAT'S COUNTING, UM, THE SOUTH CAMPUS, WHICH HAS AN ADDITIONAL THREE BUILDINGS BEHIND IT, THE LIBRARY, THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER, WHICH IS BEING ADDED IN THIS YEAR.
UM, THE EOC MAIN COURTHOUSE, ANNEX, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, JUVENILE PROBATION, THE PRECINCT TWO SUB COURTHOUSE PRECINCT TWO ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
THE PRECINCT THREE SUB COURTHOUSE PRECINCT, THREE RODEN BRIDGE MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND THE PRECINCT FOR SUB COURTHOUSE WITH THE ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND THE IT BUILDING, IT COMES WITH A TOTAL OF 19 BUILDINGS.
SO IF YOU BREAK THE 400,000 DOWN, THAT'S ABOUT $21,052 AND 63 CENTS PER BUILDING FOR ANY REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND OF COURSE SOME WILL TAKE MORE AND SOME WILL TAKE LESS.
IT'S THIS LONG STORY, AN OPEN PO FOR 74,000.
WHAT IS THAT FOR, FOR THE POLE BARN, THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THAT PRECINCT FOUR, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO DO FOR THE LIBRARY.
THAT'S THAT'S GONNA EAT UP YOUR REMAINING BUDGET THIS YEAR.
SO HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE ADDED TO THE COUNTY'S INVENTORY FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS REMODEL ON MONIQUE'S BUILDING? HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD IT TAKE TO DO THAT? NO.
HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, UH, WELL REALLY $75,000.
CAUSE $25,000 THAT DOWNSTAIRS EXPANSION.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO ADD ANY SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? THE $75,000 IS TO, IS TO CLEAN UP THE UPSTAIRS.
YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO ADD, THAT'S GOING TO ADD A BATHROOM.
IT'S GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BREAK ROOM.
SO BASICALLY TO BE ADA COMPLIANT WITH THIS BUILDING, SINCE THERE IS NO ELEVATOR, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO, YOU CAN'T PROVIDE SOMETHING UPSTAIRS THAT YOU DON'T PROVIDE DOWNSTAIRS.
SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T PUT A CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS AND NOT PROVIDE ONE DOWNSTAIRS, THEN WE'RE FINE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING TO MONIQUE.
THE BEST THING TO DO WOULD BE TO KEEP THE CONFERENCE ROOM DOWNSTAIRS, HAVE MORE SPACING WORKSPACE UPSTAIRS AND HAVE THE CONFERENCE ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.
THAT WAY, THAT THERE'S NEVER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ELIMINATED FROM A MEETING BECAUSE OF THE HANDICAP.
HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ADDING IN THE UPSTAIRS? DID YOU CALCULATE IT 27 FOOT WIDE BY 52 OR 50? I DON'T REMEMBER.
I, WELL, WELL, MY POINT IN ASKING WAS HOW MANY PEOPLE SITTING AT IT BUILDING? HOW MANY PEOPLE SIT IN THE IT BUILDING? UH, WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL JUST WORKING ON A COMMON AREA IN THERE, EXCEPT FOR NATHAN HAS AN OFFICE.
IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE IN THAT UPSTAIRS TO MOVE IT THERE AND GET OUT OF THAT OTHER BUILDING, TRY TO CASH OUT ON THAT.
THAT'S OUR BUILDING THAT OTHER BAYLOR 19, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN IT, YOU COULD SELL IT NOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? THE MASON? HOW ABOUT SELLING IT TO THE MASONS? GIVE YOU ENOUGH? RIGHT? SO YOU CALL IT MOVEMENT.
AS WE, AS WE STAND HERE RIGHT NOW, HE'S TAKEN 275,000 OUT OF HIS BUDGET, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE ADDING 75 BACK IN FROM THE NEXT BILLION.
SO WE'D BE A NET SAVINGS SO FAR THIS CONVERSATION OF $200,000 COMING OUT OF BOBBY'S BUDGET.
AS, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM THE POSITIONS AND WE WOULDN'T NEED THEM.
THAT'S ME, DUDE, DUDE, KEEP IN MIND OF THE POSITIONS OF THE MATH.
THAT FACILITY IS 158,000 OF THAT IS FOR COVID CUSTODIANS.
THEN THAT MONEY WOULD COME OUT OF HIS DOLLAR.
SO SAY HE WOULD HAVE AN EXTRA ONE 50.
THAT WOULD BE IT WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING IT RIGHT NOW OUT OF, OUT OF COUNTY MONEY.
BUT IF WE GET REIMBURSED, THEN THERE'D BE ONE 50 AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHERE HE LANDS POST COVID FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, HE'LL HAVE, HE'LL HAVE THE TRUE THAT BACK UP.
SO SOMEWHERE HE'LL PICK UP SOME CUSTODIANS, UH, AS BAD AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
BUT FOR THIS YEAR, ONE 58 IS A POTENTIAL REIMBURSABLE NUMBER.
IT'S IN HIS DOLLAR RIGHT NOW THAT HE'S COVERING THE COST.
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SO WELL, TECHNICALLY WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF MY BUDGET.IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW IN YOUR BUDGET.
FOR A LINE ITEM, IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A REIMBURSEMENT AGAINST IT.
BUT ONCE THAT, ONCE WE APPLY THAT REIMBURSEMENT, WE WOULD PICK UP ONE 50 OUT OF HIS BUDGET.
SO TWO 75 PLUS ONE 58 MINUS 75.
SO WE'RE PICKING UP $350,000 OUT OF THE FACILITIES BUDGET.
AS OF RIGHT NOW WITH THE $75,000 75, PUT BACK IN FOR RENOVATING UPSTAIRS AND DEVELOPMENT.
I'M ALWAYS SCARED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENOVATING THE BUILDING, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M AFRAID YOU'RE GOING TO FIND SOME OLD, A CAVEMAN DWELLING OR SOMETHING, OR YOU'LL URGE NAST TO SOME SORT OF CREATURE LIVING UP THERE.
IS THAT $75,000 A SAFE NUMBER.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT NO, IT'S TRUE.
NO, WE'VE ALREADY SOLD WHEN WE DID THE BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM HALF.
UM, WE ACTUALLY, WE GOT THAT FLOW AND WE, WE ACTUALLY REDID THE WHOLE NEW FLOOR ON THE BOTTOM.
BUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID IT, WE ACTUALLY DID A STRUCTURAL FOR THE UPSTAIRS.
SO EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO THAT.
IT WAS ENGINEERED BEAMS WAS ENGINEERED BEAMS, ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, MOSTLY CAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID THE ROOF IS GOING TO FALL IN ERIC DAVIS ENGINEERING DID ALL THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING ON IT.
WE HAD ALL THE LAMINATED BEAMS PUT IN.
IT IS, IT IS MADE FOR A SECOND FLOOR.
NOW IT IS SECURE FOR A SECOND FLOOR.
AND THAT'S WHY I DID THAT BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THAT WAS COMING, THAT WE WAS GOING INTO MOVING UPSTAIRS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SOMEBODY WAS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, PLUMBING FOR BATHROOMS, UM, ELECTRICAL, ALL NEW ELECTRICAL UP THERE, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S, WE, WE WOULD BE ONE BATHROOM DOWNSTAIRS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
HOW LONG, HOW LONG IT TAKE TO GET IT DONE? REALLY? THAT, THAT DEPENDS ON, UH, MS. MONIQUE, UM, WITH OUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN THAT AGAIN, TO BRING HAMMERS, TO WORK WITH HER WORKING IN THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A LITTLE NOISY AND, UH, GET A LITTLE DUSTY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A GIMME.
THE FLOORING IS WOOD STRIP FLOORING, YOU KNOW? SO THEN WE HAVE EXCESS THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET RID OF THE TAKE CARE OF THAT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THERE.
THAT'S THE IDEA YOU DON'T, DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU HAVE ANY WIGGLE ROOM IN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET TO GET STARTED ON THAT NOW? NO, I HAVE ZERO.
I MEAN ZERO THEN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
I MEAN, WHEREAS IN SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GO THERE RIGHT NOW IS KEY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING, SO BOBBY YOU'VE SPOKEN FOR THE 21,000 REMAINING IN POOR FORM.
WHAT WAS THAT? BOW FOR FORM HAS 21,000 REMAINING IN THEIR BUDGET.
THAT'S SPOKEN FOR, THAT HAS SPOKEN FOR, UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER HUNT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE COFFIN COUNTY OR FARM.
YES, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A SILO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TEARING DOWN AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME FOOD.
I MEAN THE, UH, THE UNDERGROUND FOOD STORAGE THING THAT THEY NEED TO GET FILLED WITH SOME SLURRY, SOME TYPE OF SLURRY MIX.
SO YEAH, THAT IS WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER PRODUCTS THAT 30,000 FOR, UM, WE HAVE, IS THAT WHAT THAT 30 THEN ROBBERY, THERE'S SOME WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE LIBRARY THAT WAS DONE IN THIS BUDGET.
I'M DOING ONE AT THE LIBRARY FLOORING, ALL NEW FLOORING PAINTING, UH, FIXING THE CRACKS OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE WALLS AND STUFF, TAPE BED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UH, FLOORING AT THE FIRE MARSHALS AREA AND PAINTING WAS IN THERE.
AND THEN, UH, THE POLE BARN AT PRECINCT FOUR IS WHAT, THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE LEFT.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO DO ANYTHING.
I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO DO ANYTHING LIKE FLOORING AND PAINTING, LIKE IN THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO ANY OF THAT STUFF UNTIL WE GET THIS MASTER PLAN DEAL.
CAUSE THE PLAN FOR THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE, THE GENERAL PLAN IS TO MOVE THEM INTO THE COURTHOUSE.
WELL, THIS WAS SCHEDULED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, RIGHT? TO DO THAT.
SO WE WERE STILL FULL STEAM AHEAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE MET THAT GOAL.
BUT I MEAN, IF YOU WANT US TO POSTPONE THAT, THEN THAT'S FINE.
HE'S, HE'S GOT THE, THE 78,000 TO FIX PRECINCT FOR RD INCOME, FROM WHAT HE SPENT WITH THE CONFERENCE, HE STILL HAS $180,000 LEFT IN THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S THE DUDE, UH, THERE WAS ABOUT, LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THERE TO DO
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THE LIBRARY AND THAT WAS TO REVAMP THE INSIDE OF IT.AND THEN THAT WAS BOTH SIDES, THE MEETING ROOM AND THE SIDE.
AND THEN, SO YOU DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THAT $180,000 THAT'S UNSPENT THAT, THAT NONE OF THAT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, REPLACING THE AIR CONDITIONERS AT THE LIBRARY, THE AIR CONDITIONERS AT PRECINCT FOUR AND THE AIR CONDITIONER AT EOC, THAT'S A 40, 50, $55,000.
WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
IF WE DON'T DO THE OTHER PROJECTS LIKE AT THE LIBRARY AND THE FIRE MARSHALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF I DO THESE OTHER PROJECTS, THERE IS NOTHING LEFT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ON THE POOR FORM PROJECTS THAT THE SILO THAT'S OUT OF THEIR BUDGET.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING THAT.
THAT'S YOU KNOW, JERRY WAS ASKING ABOUT THE POOR FARM BUDGET.
THERE'S LIKE 21,000 LEFT IN THERE.
SO JUST TO KEEP, JUST TO LOWER THAT NUMBER IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, DON'T Y'ALL THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE HIM DO THOSE.
AT LEAST THOSE THREE AIR CONDITIONING PROJECTS AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE GOT 188,000 REMAINING.
WHAT DO THEY NEED? THE AIR CONDITIONING NOW? YOU KNOW? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
JUST, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE ELECTRICAL.
YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE ON YOUR ENERGY USAGE TO JUST KNOW IF YOU DO THAT.
YOU'VE NOW POSTPONED LIBRARY, REPAIRS, FIRE, MARSHALL REPAIRS, AND ALL THAT.
THAT WAS AROUND OFF THE TABLE.
CAUSE THEY'RE NOT FUNDED FOR NEXT YEAR.
THERE'LL BE NO, THE FIRE MARSHALL MOVING ANYWAY.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WAS THE LIBRARY.
THE LIBRARY THAT MONEY WAS IN THE BUDGET.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS CLOSE TO 120,000 TO DO IT ALL.
NOT, NOT INCLUDING HPAC, ALL THE REMODEL STUFF.
YOU DON'T WANT TO REPLACING CARPET IN THE LIBRARY, THE FLOORING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FACILITY, ARPIT IN THE LIBRARY FLOORING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FACILITY.
DID THIS INCLUDE UPGRADING THAT MEETING ROOM, UPGRADE WITH NEW AVI? YEAH.
WERE YOU ABLE TO USE ANY OF THE BOND MONEY FOR THAT? AND WHEN THAT NO, THE LIBRARY IS NOT IN THE BOND.
IT'S NOT ONE OF THE PROJECTS IN THE BOOK, BUT IF WE WAS TO GO AHEAD, IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THAT, HVHC MEANS THIS YEAR WE COULD USE THE REPAIRS, THE 400,000 OF REPAIRS NEXT YEAR TO DO THE LIBRARY.
AND YOU MAY HAVE ENOUGH LIFT AT LEE.
IF YOU GO AHEAD, YOU MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH LIFT IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY SPENDING THE EXTRA 55,000.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH LIFT TO DO THE CARPET.
KAREN, YOU SAID THERE WAS 180.
IS THAT? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ATTRACTING THE 74,000.
YOU HAVE SPENT 99, 99 REGULAR BILLS.
YOU GOT 83,000 IN CONVERT, WHICH IS 77, SIX 91 99 FOR COMMISSIONER ARCADES AND THEN 5,000 AND SOMETHING.
AND IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, GET THE AIR CONDITIONER DONE AT JUVENILE LIBRARY, PRECINCT FOR AN EOC.
UH, THAT TAKES IT OUT OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WHATEVER MONEY YOU, ONCE YOU GET TO CONFIDENCE LEVEL, WHATEVER MONEY YOU HAVE LEFT OVER IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, DO THE MOST ESSENTIAL REPAIRS AT THE LIBRARY AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH OF THOSE ARE THE MOST CENTRAL, BUT WHEREVER THEY THOUGHT.
UH, WELL I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU WERE TO ASK YOU AS MUCH, HE'S GOING TO SAY CARPET.
BECAUSE IT'S ORIGINAL TO THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, KIDS COME IN THERE IN THE SUMMERTIME AND THE SCHOOL YEAR.
NOW WE DO HAVE A CLAIM PRETTY REGULAR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S STILL IT'S.
IT'S PROBABLY DUDE, DID YOU HAVE THE PO SECURED AND YOU IX RECEIVED THE PRODUCT BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.
IF NOT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO NEXT YEAR.
CAN WE KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THAT CARPET CONCRETE.
SO THE GOOD THING IS I BELIEVE THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THE NINETIES, SO IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ASKED ME.
SO, UH, JERRY YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE IT TO BOBBY.
IT'LL KIND OF WORK THOSE NUMBERS OUT.
I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.
SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THE 400, I'M GOING TO BUMP IT TO FOUR 75.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THE, I WANT TO TAKE 50 OUT OF THE 180 FOR AIR CONDITIONING.
CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IT NOW.
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I'M GOING TO TAKE THE 100 THAT YOU HAVE FOR SUB COURTHOUSE.I'M GOING TO PUT, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN TO 25.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO FOR THIS.
AND THEN THIS ONE 58, THIS FOR THE COVID IS GOING TO STAY IN THIS BUDGET UNTIL KAREN WILL LINE OUT ON THAT AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF HIS BUDGET? NO, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT IN HIS BUDGET.
WE'RE GOING TO JUST OFFSET IT BY REGRETS.
HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THAT'S ONE THING, I GUESS ONE DISCLOSURE BY REALIZE IS WE, WE FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THIS CLEANING, ALL THAT.
I MEAN, STEVE AND HIS ADVICE IS THAT THIS IS ALL QUALIFIED COVID COVID MONEY.
BUT IF THEY DID THAT WITH, WELL, YEAH.
I MEAN, HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T, THEY WOULDN'T, I MEAN, I'M, I FEEL REALLY 90% SURE WE'LL GET IT, BUT I'M JUST, THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY IN ORDER FOR THE COURTS TO OPEN.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
WE'RE PICKING UP 250 PLUS ONE 50.
WE'RE PICKING UP 400,000 OUT OF THIS BUDGET BASICALLY FOR NEXT YEAR.
WELL, YOU STILL PLENTY OF SHUFFLING AWAY FROM WHERE YOU'RE NEEDED.
THAT'S ABOUT 200,000 FROM WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
WHICH IS A GOOD SEGUE INTO THE NEXT DISCUSSION.
UH, BEFORE YOU GO, BOBBY, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT POSITIONS LAST TIME, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE'D DISCUSSED YOUR, YOUR, UH, INTENTION TO, TO RESTORE A SUPERVISOR POSITION.
SO CAN YOU JUST, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US THE READER'S DIGEST ON YOUR THINKING THERE? YES, SIR.
SO, SO WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR WAS TO, UH, TO RESTORE THE SUPERVISOR POSITION BACK IN MY BUDGET, THAT WAY, UH, MOVE CASEY BACK TO THE SUPERVISOR POSITION.
I MEAN, HE HAS NOT LEFT THAT POSITION EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CHANGED LAST YEAR, BUT HE HAS STILL FULFILLED THAT POSITION BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS GOING ON.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND, AND HAVING CASEY AS THE LIAISON FOR SOME OF THE GUYS IN THE FIELD HELPS FROM MY ASPECT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, HAD THE COURTHOUSES IN THE SUB COURTHOUSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, CASEY, UM, HE DOES A GREAT JOB AS SUPERVISOR.
WE KEEPS EVERYBODY RUNNING AND HE AND I, WE COMMUNICATE ALL DAY EVERY DAY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH CALLING CASEY WHEN THEY HAVE AN ISSUE.
UM, THEY KNOW IT'S GOING TO, HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE IT GETS TAKEN CARE OF.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE MOVE HIM BACK TO THE SUPERVISOR POSITION.
UH, IT WOULD HELP BENEFIT OUR DEPARTMENT.
I MEAN, HE HAS NEVER LEFT THAT POSITION, BUT SO THAT'S A $6,000 INCREASE.
54, 25, PLUS THE BUMPING SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT.
SO ABOUT 66 ALL IN THERE ABOUT, IS IT INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS AND THAT IS NOT IN THESE NUMBERS.
NOW LET'S TRY AND TAKE SOMETHING THAT IS 400,000 THINGS IS BACK SIX, IT'D BE 60, ABOUT 6,500.
I GAVE UP, I GOT MY POSITION LAST YEAR.
I GAVE UP A POSITION LAST YEAR.
I THINK ABOUT 7,000 BACK INTO THAT NUMBER.
AND WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL STAFFING NOW? CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, 10 PEOPLE AND FACILITIES.
UM, YOU GOT MYSELF, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UM, WE GOT FOUR JANITORIAL STAFF AND THEN FOUR FIELD TECH GUYS AND THAT WE JUST BROUGHT ON AGAIN FOR MORE ADDITIONAL JANITORIAL STAFFING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE DONE SOME MOWING FOR THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, I KNOW BRIAN'S GUYS HAD BEEN COVERED UP, SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP OUT WITH MOHEN, UM, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, AND I KNOW THAT OUR REVIEW AND I THINK OF OUR, I ALREADY TALKED TO RYAN ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN THIS NEW JUSTICE CENTER GETS BUILT, WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK AT SOMETHING EITHER OUTSOURCING OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE SOME ON PEOPLE.
CAUSE THAT'S, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT SUBJECT, JUST SERVED BY KNOWS THIS, UH, THE, THE, BECAUSE OF THE COED SITUATION AND CAUSE THE, UH, THE IT'S NOT, IT'S A HARD THING FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO TAKE TRUSTEES.
THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THAT JAIL ALL THE TIME.
SO THE TRUSTEES HAVEN'T BEEN OUT WORKING, UH, THE CITY IS TRYING TO GET A CONTRACTOR, GET A QUOTE ON A CONTRACTOR THAT WOULD DO THOSE INSIDE FLOWER BAYS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT OR NOT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY RANK.
I GOT LOTS OF GRASS AND WEEDS AND STUFF GOING DOWN.
SO I SHOULD HEAR BACK FROM THE CITY AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, I THINK THE IDEA IS WE USE ONE CONTRACTOR.
HE WOULD HAVE ONE SET OF HE BILL THE CITY FOR THE OUTSIDE BEDS AND THEN BILL US FOR THE INSIDE BEDS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, BUT, BUT WE, WE CAN'T JUST LET IT GO LIKE THAT.
PAY HIM, TRY TO GET SOME JUVENILE PROBATION KIDS TO DO IT.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO PULL WEEDS AND STUFF LIKE
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THAT.SO IT'S GOING TO BECOME A FULL TIME JOB.
I MEAN, BRIAN'S GUYS, THEY DO A JAM UP JOB WHEN THEY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, KEN HAINES, I MEAN THAT GUY, HE GETS IN HIS TRUCK AND HE LOADS UP AND HE IS GONE AND HE IS GONE ALL DAY MORNING.
AND THEN IT'S JUST A, IT'S A, YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT GOES UNTIL LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST WHEN THEY'RE ALL THE GRASS STARTS DOWN DOWN.
BUT I MEAN, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WE'VE BEEN SCRAMBLING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE SHERIFF TO COME OVER AND DO IT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WADE, YOU'RE GOING TO GROW EVERY MONTH.
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO COME OUT THERE AND 10 THOSE BEDS, JUST LIKE THE GRASS IS GOING TO GROW AND YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE HAVING THIS BIG SCRAMBLE EVERY TIME YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO MOW.
SO ANYWAY, JUST HEADS UP ON THAT, GENTLEMEN, HEY, WE'VE GOT A LOOK AT CHANGING THAT LANDSCAPING FOR THE FUTURE WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE SO LABOR-INTENSIVE WELL, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE LABOR-INTENSIVE ONCE THOSE, I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE WHEAT GROWN IN IT, UNLESS YOU PUT, YOU KNOW, CURVING UP WITH ROCKS OR SOMETHING, ROCKS AND CACTUS, YOU KNOW, ROCK, UH, NO MAINTENANCE, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE PLANTS ARE NOT FULLY GROWN OUT YET.
AND SO ONCE THEY, IF THEY'LL DO THAT, PUT BOLTS IN THERE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A MASTER GARDENER, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS DID.
I KNOW MAYBE THE MASTER GARDENER, YOU, THERE YOU GO.
MAYBE ALL THE MASTER GARDENERS ARE 75 OR OLDER.
THERE'S ONE, THAT'S 60 TO CHILD.
HE'S THE CHILD AND ONE THAT'S 65.
ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU, BOBBY.
DON'T GO DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE, SIR.
SO JUDGE DID, WHERE DID WE WANT IT UP ON THAT? ARE WE STILL CONSIDERING BY THE HOLD UP? JUST ONE SECOND, SIR.
ARE WE STILL CONSIDERING STARTING THIS RENOVATION OVER HERE OUT OF, OUT OF SOME POTENTIAL MONEY FROM THIS YEAR? NO, NO WE'RE GONNA DO INSTEAD.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, FROM MONIQUE AND, UH, AND RON IS THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SET BACK YOUR EMPLOYMENT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HIRING PEOPLE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO START SOMEBODY UNTIL THAT FACILITY IS READY.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BUDGET IMPLICATION PROBABLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GOT AN EXTRA ROOM.
TWO PEOPLE I'M LIKE THEY WON'T PICK IT UP YOUNG WORD MASK.
YOU JUST WEAR A MASK, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH I'D SAY THREE MONTHS.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE.
SO YOU PROBABLY COULD START GETTING SOMEBODY LINED UP FOR IF NOT SOONER, BUILD THE FLOOR UPSTAIRS.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK? CAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST NOISE POLLUTION TIED TO THE BOTTOM.
HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE BEFORE? I GUESS RON.
SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH RON AND COME UP WITH A FLOOR PLAN OF HOW YOU WANT IT TO LOOK, GET SOME DUST, GET SOME DUST COVERS.
SO THE WORD CHAMPIONS, CASEY, BACK TO SUPERVISOR LIKE YOU REQUESTED IS EVERYBODY ON THAT, BUT JUST GAVE THAT UP LAST YEAR AND HELPED US OUT A LOT WITH THAT.
HE'S STILL DOING THE SAME JOB.
HE ALSO HAD A REQUEST FOR HAND IS TITLED TO BE MADE BACK TO DIRECTOR THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED.
IF YOU PUT BOB DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY MONEY.
RIGHT NOW, BOBBY IS THE SUPERVISOR.
IT'S CLASSIFIED IN THIS INDEPENDENT.
NO, WE SHOULD CHANGE HIS TITLE TO DIRECTOR.
BUT WHEN THERE IS A SALARY INCREASE KNOW I GOTTA, YEAH.
IT'S A TRUE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IT'S NOT A INCREASE, NOT A SALARY INCREASE.
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STARTS NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL.SO YOU CHANGED IT TO A FACILITIES DIRECTOR OR MANAGER FACILITIES MANAGER.
AND YOU SAID MANAGE YOUR OWN HAIR.
DO YOU WANT TO STAY A MANAGER? UH, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE STANDARD TITLE FOR SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION? DIRECTOR.
DIRECTOR IS SUSTAINABLE TITLE.
THE DIRECTOR INSTEAD OF MANAGER SOMEBODY ON THE SIDE.
THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOT HIS DIRECT CO'S CAUSE MONIQUE'S TITLE IS DIRECTOR.
UH, LET'S CHANGE IT TO DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU, MR. CASE, JUST TO CLARIFY ON YOUR LONGEVITY, THE, THE WORKSHEET THAT KAREN HAS DEVELOPED, YOU PUT IN THEIR HIRE DATE.
SO IT KNOWS THEIR HIRE DATE AND IT AUTOMATICALLY BASED ON LONGEVITY BASED UPON WHEN THEY HIT THAT HIRE DATE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S PRORATED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORKBOOK.
IF I COULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 31 AND JERRY, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRACKING ALONG THERE.
IF YOU WILL LOOK DOWN IN THE, THE TOP YELLOW BLOCK THERE WHERE YOU SEE SURPLUS DEFICIT, UH, WHEN WE CAME IN HERE THIS MORNING, THAT RED NUMBER WAS $611,251.
THAT'S HOW MUCH, UH, EXPENDITURES WE HAVE OVER REVENUE.
WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER NOW? JERRY? ALL RIGHT.
SO KAREN, KAREN, KAREN AND I HAD A $90,000 ERROR ON HER, SO THAT'S TO THE BAD.
SO AN ANIMAL IN NICK'S POSITION IS 50.
SO I GOT TO PICK UP ANOTHER 50 FOR HERS.
WE WOULD DO PROVE THAT EXTRA POSITION.
THAT'S ONE 40 MINUS THREE, FOUR, SO THREE 50 MINUS ONE 40.
THAT'S HOW MUCH WE'VE PICKED UP SO FAR.
SO THAT'S, I'VE PICKED UP, WE PICKED UP 200, PICKED UP 200, FOUR 11 WE'RE.
NOW WE'RE NOW AT 400, BASICALLY.
SO NOW WE'RE 400 GRAND ON THE BAD SIDE.
SO WE MEET AGAIN ON WEDNESDAY.
UH, I TALKED TO KAREN THIS MORNING AND KAREN IS GOING TO SCRUB THROUGH IN, SHE MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY THAT WE, WE HAVE A $200,000, UH, THAT WE WERE EXPECTED TO USE FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND THERE'S, WE, I'M HOPING, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S OTHER, THAT SHE MIGHT FIND OTHER, UH, MONEY THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN USE TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER DOWN.
SO YOU'RE NOT USING THE TWO 50 FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S BONDED MONEY.
UH, WE DON'T, WE WON'T BE USING ANY REVENUE FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER THIS NEXT YEAR.
IS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE, WELL DON'T KNOW IT WAS JUST PARKED THERE.
I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR, BUT YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT TWO 50 A YEAR ASIDE TILL THEY GOT ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY BE RIGHT.
SO WHAT WE'LL GET, THEY ONLY GET IT ONE YEAR.
THEY ALL USED IT ONE YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD SOME EMERGENCIES YOU HAD TO LIKE SHERIFF'S STUFF HAVE TO COME OUT.
SO, SO THAT, THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
NOW THAT 250,000 AND I'M THINKING RESTRICT IT CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN AGENDA ITEM FOR Y'ALL AT UNRESTRICTED.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE IT TO HELP.
SO, AND I'M HOPING THAT KAREN IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE, UH, FIND SOME OTHER DOLLARS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO, UH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALL THE REVENUES NEXT WEDNESDAY, THIS WEDNESDAY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALL THE REVENUES THAT WE CAN FIND.
UH, AND WE'RE GONNA, THAT'S WE'RE GONNA ASSUME THAT'S OUR MAXIMUM REVENUE EXCEPT FOR CHANGES POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY IN THE APPRAISAL PROCESS REVENUE WON'T CHANGE.
WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON WHERE WE WERE GONNA SET REVENUE INCREASE VERSUS PRIOR YEARS.
SO NO MATTER WHAT THE DOLLAR DOESN'T CHANGE.
SO, UH, SO WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY SET THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO NO MATTER WHAT THE APPRAISED VALUES ARE, THAT REVENUE WILL BE SET AT THAT NUMBER THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.
IT'LL JUST CHANGE THE TAX RATE BASED UPON THE APPRAISE VALUE.
SO THE MATH THAT'S IN THERE WON'T CHANGE THE REVENUE STAGE JUST BECAUSE THE REVENUE WE'RE CAPTAIN, I'M LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE OTHER REVENUES THAT ARE HERE.
THERE'S NOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT, UM, THAT IT'S OUT THERE WHERE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND, MAYBE WITH A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS THAT WERE THERE, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN GET, IF WE CAN SCRUB OUT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND, OKAY.
BUT THAT JUST GETS US TO ZERO.
LET ME GO BACK TO WHERE I WAS TALKING.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PUT TOGETHER ALL THE REVENUES THAT WE CAN FIND, UH, LIKE THE ANIMAL SHELTER MONEY WE WERE
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TALKING ABOUT.UH, AND I THINK OUR, WE'VE GOT TO ADD AT A VERY MINIMUM.
WE GOT A ZERO, THAT NUMBER ON PAGE 31, THAT'S NOW $400,000 IN THE RED.
THAT NUMBER HAS GOT TO, I THINK WE SHOULD WORK TOWARDS GETTING THAT TO ZERO, WHICH MAY MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF SOME OF THE ASKS, SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO REDUCE, UH, SOME OF THEIR SPENDING.
UH, SO BE PREPARED FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS, ALL THE FIRMS, INCLUDING THE ROAD AND BRIDGES, BUDGETS ALL HAVE TO BE BALANCED TO THE WHATEVER REVENUE YOU'VE GOT COMING IN.
SO, UH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN HERE'S THE BIG THING.
AND KAREN AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ADD TO OUR FUND BALANCE NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, TAKE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE NOT SPENT THIS YEAR AND PUT THAT INTO FUND BALANCE.
BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THE EXCESS REVENUE THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THAT TO CREATE A CONTINGENCY IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND THAT CONTINGENCY WOULD BE JUST GENERAL CONTINGENCY.
BUT IT ALSO, WE ALSO COULD HAVE SOME OF THAT MONEY SET ASIDE FOR CONTINGENCY, FOR WAGE INCREASES, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN JANUARY SKIED.
UM, AND I THINK WE PROBABLY WANT TO SEPARATE OR MAKE SURE THAT WE DEFINE HOW MUCH IS IN GENERAL CONTINGENCY AND HOW MUCH IS FOR WAGES.
UH, SO THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE EXCESS REVENUE THAT WE HAVE OVER EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS ON MONDAY, JULY THE 28TH, JULY 27TH, WHEN WE MEET, UH, WE HAVE TO SET ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES, CAUSE THAT'S GOTTA BE PUBLISHED ON THE 28TH.
IT'S GOTTA BE PART OF OUR, IT'S GOTTA BE, WE'VE GOTTA SEND THE LETTERS TO THE, TO ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND IT'S GOTTA BE PART OF OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO THEN WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THEM IN THE PAPER ONCE THEY'RE SEVEN, ARE YOU TRACKING HERE? THIS IS IMPORTANT.
WE'VE GOT TO SET ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES ON MONDAY THE 27TH.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO SEND PROPOSED SALARIES.
YOU HAVE TO SEND ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THEIR PROPOSED SALARIES.
WE GOT, SO WE GOT TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT.
AND I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T FALL BACK ON THE, ON THE WAGE IN THE WAGE CLASSIFICATION STUDY, CAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE BY THEN.
SO, AND WE CAN'T CHANGE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WAGES AFTER WE CAN'T CHANGE THEM.
AFTER WE SEND THAT LETTER, EITHER AFTER THEY'RE APPROVED, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THEM.
SO, UH, SO WHAT I GUESS WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT FOR WEDNESDAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WE CAN DO 300% OR WHATEVER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER.
I HAVE ASKED BRANDY AT HERE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT, DO YOU HAVE FUN RUTTEN BRIDGE, ALL OTHER FUNDS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DO YOUR LITTLE SCALE OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO A 1% I WANT AND A HALF AND A 2% ROAD AND BRIDGE Y'ALL HAD ALREADY GAVE YOUR PEOPLE RAISES EXCEPT FOR YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE IN YOUR SALE.
SO WE COULD INCLUDE THAT WHOEVER Y'ALL WANTING TO, IT WAS JUST TO TRY TO GIVE US SOME, I FOUND SOME MONEY.
SO WE HAD GOOD HOLD ON TO IT LIKE GRIM DEATH.
SO IF WE SPIN IT THIS YEAR, IT WOULD REDUCE THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
IF A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU COULD DO THERE, YOU COULD BE AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING.
NOW THAT'S BUDGETED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THIS YEAR WITH IT.
UM, JUST THAT WOULD FREE UP SOME MONEY.
JUDGE, HAVE WE, WE STARTED, WHICH IS GOOD.
WE STARTED OUT WITH 250, 1000 WHEN WE BALANCED THE BUDGET AND WE'VE STILL GOT 234, SO WE HAVEN'T HIT IT FOR A LOT.
I THOUGHT WE WENT INTO THIS, DO IT WITH $400,000 IN CONTAINERS AND 200 WAS THE GOAL AND WE, WE, WE SETTLED IT TO 50.
NOW SHERIFF, THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
I THINK THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS THIS YEAR, GIVEN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE AT AND THE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS ALREADY, I THINK WE, I THINK WE'D BE PRUDENT TO, JUST TO STAY WHERE THIS ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES ARE.
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IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT SALARY, WE SPEND $45 MILLION A YEAR FOR, FOR SALARIES IN THIS COUNTY.SO EVEN 1% IS THAT'S A BIG HIT.
SO, UH, WELL WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO NAIL THAT DOWN ON WEDNESDAY.
I MEAN, YEAH, NO, MONDAY THE 27TH, WE CAN NAIL DOWN WEDNESDAY.
Y'ALL THINKING ABOUT WEDNESDAY, WE'LL HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT NEW REVENUE.
I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE ANY EXPENDITURES THAT ARE BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WE MIGHT CAN PAY OUT A CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY, VERY PRUDENT, PRUDENT EXERCISE.
AND WHAT TRUE UP THE MATH OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
SO I'VE GOT A LITTLE TRUE AND UP TO DATE, KAREN, I'M GOING TO START SENDING YOU SOME COFFEE, SO YOU'LL HAVE PLENTY OF COFFEE TO GET YOU LOTS OF ENERGY TO KEEP LOOKING FOR MORE MONSTERS.
WHAT TIME WE MEET? WHAT TIME IS OUR MEETING? IF IT'S 9:00 AM NINE THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY OF THIS WEEK, THIS COMING WEDNESDAY, THIS WEDNESDAY AFTER TOMORROW, HE KEPT SAYING 27TH.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, UH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TO SET UP THAT MEETING IS WE'LL HAVE TO SET THAT.
IF YOU DO ONE AND A HALF, IT'S 37 NINE.
AND BRIDGE IS THE SKANKY, RIGHT? THOSE ARE NOT THOSE AREN'T.
SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA.
IF YOU DID 1%, IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY RAISE IT A MILLION TO JUST IN GENERAL FUND.
DOES IT GO AGAIN? AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE ALL DEDICATED TO IS IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, DO WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ABOUT RAISES AT LEAST WITH INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE FROM THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY SO WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO PUT THE, THE MOST MONEY TO GET PEOPLE UP TO SCALE.
THE OTHER AREA THAT'S OUT THERE, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE AN OPEN SWITCH.
IS THERE, THERE ARE SOME FUNDS AND EXPENSES THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE.
NOW TIPS ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THEM.
UM, I'M GETTING IN ALL THE REQUESTS FROM ALL THE AGENCIES.
SO, UM, STAR TRANSIT, UM, COG, ALL THOSE FOLKS THAT SEND IN REQUESTS TO US FOR SOME OF THOSE UP SO FAR, THEY'VE BEEN TRACKING PRETTY CLOSE TO PRIOR YEARS ASKED.
SO NOTHING GLARING AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CONTRACT COMPANY.
SO WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH CONTRACT COMES UP THIS YEAR.
SO THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY.
AND I'VE GOT A, I'M WORKING ON SENDING A LETTER TO ALL OF THEM SAYING, WE WANT TO KNOW, UH, WHAT'S YOUR BUDGET.
WHAT'S YOUR LIKE THE LIBRARIES AND THE, AND THE, THE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD FUNDED WANNA KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR REQUEST? WHAT WAS YOUR REQUEST LAST YEAR? WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST FOR THIS COMING YEAR? AND GIVE US A LITTLE SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE MONEY THAT, THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU SHOULD SEE THAT ON MONDAY.
I SHOULD HAVE THOSE ANSWERS DOWN MONDAY.
WE'VE GOT SOME OF THEM ALREADY BACK.
SO YEAH, BUT THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US MUCH OF A DIALOGUE.
I'M LOOKING FOR SOME DIALOGUE AND A COPY OF THEIR BUDGET TOO.
I LIKE THE LIBRARIES AND ALL THAT.
IT IS LIBRARIES, CHILD, WELFARE BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ART.
THERE'S SOME CHANGES IN LIBRARY FUNDING THIS YEAR.
WELL, MOSQUITO, I MEAN, FORNEY'S LIBRARY IS GONE, SO WE ALREADY, ALREADY TOOK THEM OUT.
I'VE ALREADY, ALREADY, ALREADY REMOVED THAT.
THEY DIDN'T WANT IT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T, IT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO LOSE MONEY.
I COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO GIVE UP A LOT MORE OR TAKE IT OUT.
DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER TERMS FOR PAYMENT JUDGE AND ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM? I THOUGHT ON WEEKEND CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT,
[2. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]
WE HAVE CLAIMED FOR PAYMENT.CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $26,680.
THAT'S WHAT PAY US TO PAY A CONTRACTOR ON OUR PRECINCT FOR RODENBURG BRIDGE DITCH CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THANKS FOR PAYING FOR COMMISSIONER.
KATE'S SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
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ALL RIGHT.THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
LIKE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS WEREN'T HERE, I'D FILL IN FOR HIM.
SO YOU WOULD BE THE NEXT, OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION, BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.