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[WORKSHOP - To discuss the Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Budget.]

WORKSHOP MEETING WITH A CALL FROM COUNTIES COMMISSIONER'S COURTS CALLED ORDER.

UH, TODAY IS, UH, JULY 22ND.

IT IS 9:03 AM IN THE MORNING.

UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT COMMISSIONER CATES IS NOT WITH US YET, BUT I ASSUME HE'LL BE HERE SHORTLY.

UM, I'LL START OFF THE, WHAT, WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO TODAY SINCE THE, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UH, NEXT WEEK ARE GOING TO BE, OR THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE POSTING A PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND, UH, SO I THOUGHT WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS YET.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO GO PAGE BY PAGE THROUGH THIS AND HIGHLIGHT ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE WE STARTED.

UM, BUT I'D START WITH PAGE 31 IN A, A QUIET, SILENT ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE AUDITOR.

UH, SHE HAS GOTTEN ON HER WHITE STEED AND WRITTEN TO THE RESCUE FOR US AND FOUND A ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW IN THE GENERAL FUND IS, UH, WE'RE 850, 3000, UH, POSITIVE THERE, READY TO GO.

HMM.

THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.

I WAS TELLING COMMISSIONER IS TOO BAD THAT WE'RE NOT, IF WE WERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE COULD JUST MAKE THAT NUMBER, WHATEVER WE WANT AND JUST PRINT THE MONEY TO PRINT THE MONEY.

SO, ANYWAY, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND I KNOW JERRY IS WORKING OVER THERE WITH WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

UH, UH, I THINK JERRY, BE A GOOD PERSON TO JUST KIND OF LEAD US THROUGH THIS PAGE BY PAGE JERRY.

SO, SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL START ON ON PAGE ONE.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU START WITH YOUR REVENUES.

SO YOUR TAX REVENUES HAVE NOT CHANGED.

UH, THEY THEY'VE LIKELY WILL NOT CHANGE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SAID AT, UM, BASED UPON TAX RATE, UH, SORRY, BASED UPON APPRAISE VALUES.

SO AT 42 OH 39, IT'S ADJUSTED FOR WHAT YOU EXPECT TO GET IN, IN COLLECTIONS.

SO 97.5, A COLLECTIONS PLUS TWO AND A HALF PERCENT ON DELINQUENTS.

IT GETS YOU RIGHT BACK TO YOUR 4,239, ALL THE REST OF THESE IS YOUR OTHER REVENUES.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF PAGES OF OTHER REVENUES.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT KAREN WENT THROUGH AND SCRUBBED AND MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

SINCE WE PICKED UP, UH, APPROXIMATELY 845, $30,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

THESE COME FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS SOURCES.

SO YOU GOT YOUR, ALL YOUR FEES.

AS YOU TURN THE PAGE, YOU SEE WHERE I'VE WRITTEN UP, THE WORD I WROTE THE WORD TRUE OUT THERE.

THOSE ARE THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM THE AUDIT, OR THEY KAREN MADE TO THESE RUNS THROUGH ALL YOUR DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE VERY TOP OF PAGE FIVE, I'M 51 MILLION, 263, THREE 48.

THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR TOTAL PROJECTED REVENUE.

THEN YOU START ALLOCATING THAT REVENUE OUT, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGES.

SO PAGE FIVE NOTE, NO REAL CHANGES COUNTY JUDGE COUNTY COURT AT LAW, PAGE SIX.

UM, THE ONLY OPEN SWITCH WE HAVE ON, ON PAGE SIX IS, IS THE COURT REPORTERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR WANTING TO GET ALL THE COURT REPORTERS, ALL BEING PAID THE SAME.

SO THE DISTRICT CLERK COURT REPORTERS AND THE COUNTY COURT COURT REPORTERS, THAT'S STILL AN OPEN SWITCH THAT'S OUT THERE.

I HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED YESTERDAY.

WE COULDN'T MAKE WAS WITH JUDGE GRAY.

SO I'LL TALK WITH JUDGE GRAY, BUT THOSE ARE REQUESTS OUT THERE TO BRING ALL OF YOUR COURT REPORTERS TO THE SAME WAY TOO.

SO THAT WOULD IMPACT IF WE DID THAT.

SO YOU'D HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT THERE.

HOW MUCH IS THAT? AND IT'S ABOUT 7,000 GAP.

THEY'VE BEEN THE NUMBERS, 80 A IS WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO FILL IT.

SO IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT A, ABOUT AN $8,000 GAP.

PLUS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO 70 THAT PLUS YOUR TAXES AND BENEFITS FOR THOSE TWO ROLES AND GETTING THEM ALL ON THE SAME ONE.

SO AGAIN, I'M SHOOTING FOR HIM BY ABOUT 10, 10, FIVE FOR H UM, I'M JUST GONNA KEEP GOING THROUGH PAGES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST STOP ME PAGE SEVEN OVER NO REAL CHANGES.

WE WILL HAVE TO ADJUST, UH, TIPS.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LAST ADJUSTMENT TO TIP THIS IS, THIS WAS WHEN WAS, WAS ABOUT THEY'LL GO UP BECAUSE OF THE APPRAISAL.

UH, THE DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS WERE GIVEN A 5% RIGHTIES.

THEIR SALARIES ARE AT 79,007 15.

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SO WE THAT'S THE NUMBER TO GET TO FROM THESE THAT ARE AT 73.

SO, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

SO IT'S ABOUT A 10, ABOUT 10,000 FOR EACH ALSO TIFS, UH, GENERAL GOVERNMENT.

UH, THIS IS THAT ONE, THAT ONE AREA I TOLD YOU, I HAD A MISTAKE IN THERE.

IT NEEDED TO GET BACK TO THIS 90,000.

THAT'S OUR LIFE INSURANCE LIABILITY.

THAT'S THIS COVERED UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO WE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

UH, LET ME JUST INTERRUPT THERE ON THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS IS WHERE THE, THE, THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED TO THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DONATE MONEY TO.

UM, I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT SLACK.

WE'VE GOTTEN REQUESTS FROM A NUMBER OF THESE, BUT WHAT I AM GOING TO GET DONE TODAY IS TO ASK THEM TO SEND US NOT ONLY THEIR REQUESTS, BUT TO GIVE US A REALLY BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT, UH, HOW THEY, HOW THAT THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING FROM THE COUNTY HAS BEEN USED.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REFRESH OUR MEMORIES ON THAT.

AND, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU GUYS ON MONDAY.

I HOPE.

UM, THE NEXT TIME I GO TO DISTRICT NURSING, THEY, THEY DID SUBMIT A BUDGET.

SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SCRUB THROUGH THAT MUCH IN HERE.

AND THEY DID.

I THINK WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

I'LL I'LL I'LL I DON'T BELIEVE I'M ASKING FOR MORE FROM THE COUNTY, BUT I'LL MINUTE, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT APPRAISAL DISTRICT GOT AN INCREASE.

I TOLD Y'ALL THAT I THINK THE FIRST MEETING, WELL, SO WE WILL HAVE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS IN HERE AS THOSE GET, GET TRUED UP.

THEY'LL NEXT TO THE LAST ITEM HERE IS CONTINGENCY RIGHT NOW.

I'VE GOT THAT AT ZERO THAT'S SET TO 54.

THAT'S ON PAGE 31.

I THINK PAGE, ARE YOU ON JERRY? I AM ONE PAGE, NOT EIGHT, EIGHT.

I'M AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF PAGE EIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S A NUMBER THAT IN AT LEAST LAST YEAR, THE COURT DECIDED WHAT THEY WANTED IN THAT ACCOUNT.

LAST YEAR, WE SET A GOAL OF TWO 50 KAREN, WHEN WE SET FOR LIFE STARTED WITH THE 400, LIKE JUDGE MENTIONED, I THINK MEN IS 400.

YES.

AND THEN ALL THE DIFFERENT CHANGES WE GOT DOWN TO TWO 50.

I THINK, WHATEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO, I GUESS THAT'S AN ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER NEED TO BE? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO SET THAT? NUMBER TWO 50 WAS A NUMBER WE LANDED ON LAST YEAR.

THAT'S ABOUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT THE CONTINGENCY TO BE? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE STAY WITH WHAT WE DO, EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

CAUSE THAT'S WHERE, WHAT I ENDED UP GETTING DO ANYWAY.

SO HE OKAY OUT THERE, JERRY.

OKAY.

SO PAGE NINE, I'M GOING TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS ARE OUT HERE ON THE RIGHT IN THE YELLOW.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE ASKED.

SO AND SO ON PAGE NINE, EMERGENCY SERVICES, THAT'S AN ASK A REQUEST FOR A SALARY ADJUSTMENTS.

I'VE GOT THOSE AMOUNTS IN THERE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT MATH IN HERE.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HAD ASKED FOR.

UM, SO PAGE 10, REALLY NOTHING PAGE, PAGE 11, KAREN, THIS IS WHERE I NEED SOME HELP.

YOU SEE, I CAPTURED EVERYTHING INTO ONE COLUMN, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE LINE ITEMS FOR THOSE THREE.

THAT'S AT 21,000 FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

I JUST PUT IT ALL IN THAT ONE LINE ITEM UNDER BOOKS, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LINE OUT THEM FOR CAPITAL TRIAL OR EXPERT WITNESS OR RECORDS PRESERVATION.

SO THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE PUT IN THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT SOUNDS, UM, PAGE, PAGE 12.

WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN THERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, OF THE VERY TOP ONE, THE REQUESTS FOR AN ADJUSTMENT OF HUMOR.

WHEN JOHNNY WHITE WAS HERE, HE HAD ASKED TO BE PUT BACK AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND TO BE BROUGHT INTO THAT, THAT BALANCE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS.

I THINK THAT WE I'VE GOT IT PARKED THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT EQUATED TO, UM, ALL THE JPS, THESE NOTES OUT HERE TO THE RIGHT OR WHERE MY NOTES, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MATH, BUT THOSE THAT NUMBER, UM, THEIR CELL PHONE IS PAID OUT OF A DIFFERENT FUND.

THAT'S WHY, YEAH.

THAT'S MY SON IN THERE.

OKAY.

SO I JUST GOT CALLED OUT SOME THINGS THAT, THAT WEREN'T AT, WHATEVER THEY WERE DIFFERENT FROM THE, FROM THE WAGE SHEET.

SO WE'LL, I'M GOING PRETTY FAST HERE.

PAGE 15.

UM, KAREN, KAREN ADJUSTED THESE FOR ME ON THE ELECTIONS.

I HAD SOME LONG LOT ITEMS. THE TOTAL MATH WAS ON, IT WAS ONLY $1,951, BUT WE ADJUSTED THE ELECTIONS.

UM, KAREN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS APPROVED FROM THE DISTRICT JUDGES.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADJUST THE SALARIES FOR YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW.

THE COUNTY AUDITOR WAS GIVEN 5% AND STAFF WAS GIVEN THREE.

OKAY.

SO WHAT DOES NEED TO UPDATE THAT WORKBOOK? OKAY.

OKAY.

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I WAS JUST WAITING UNTIL I GOT A COPY OF THE ORDER TO ORDER TO MAKE IT, UM, PAGE, PAGE 16.

UH, JUST, JUST FLIP SOME, SOME THINGS AROUND ON THE ONLINE ITEMS TO GET THEM RIGHT.

KAREN SAID SHE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS FROM RAYLAND THIS MORNING.

WE MAY NEED TO MANY TO REACH OUT TO RUTLAND TO MAKE SURE WE'VE COUNTED UP, RIGHT.

IT, BUT I JUST MADE A $90 ADJUSTMENT.

SO JUST GETTING THINGS ON THE RIGHT ROUTE LINE ITEMS, COUNTY, TREASURER, HR IS HERE.

SO, SO I'LL KNOW WHEN Y'ALL WANT TO, WHEN, WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM THERE, IF YOU WANT TO PAUSE OR NOT, MARY SENT ME A MESSAGE.

SHE WANTED A SOCIAL TO US THIS MORNING.

OKAY.

OR WE WERE THERE, WE ARE PAID TOP OF PAGE 17.

UM, ON, ON THE PURCHASING AGENT, OUR, WE CALL IT, WE ARE WE CALLING THIS A RESTRUCTURING OF THE OFFICE AND RECLASSIFICATION BECAUSE SHE'S ALREADY SENT ME THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERRED TO BUMP THAT PERSON UP.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SIGN IT TILL THE COURT KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON.

IT IS A RESTRUCTURING OF THE DEPARTMENT, BUT OKAY, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU.

SHE AND I CAN SHARE ONE REALLY AS A BACKUP FOR WHAT I'M ASKING, AND THEN I'M ASSUMING EVERYONE HAS COPIES OF WHAT I'VE ORIGINALLY TURNED IN.

UM, THAT WAS WAY BACK IN OUR EARLY DRAFTS.

SO WE HAVE, LET ME GIVE YOU THIS ONE, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE IF IT ADDS UP TO THE SAME THINGS.

SO WE, WE TOOK ALL THE, ALL THE INCREASE OUT FOR OUR ROLL-UPS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I KNOW MAINLY, UM, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN, I GUESS, UH, TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT EXTRAS IN THE DEPARTMENT AND I REALLY HAVEN'T, UM, SAT DOWN AND PUT WHAT EVERYONE DOES IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS JUST PUTTING OUT FIRES.

UM, I WAS VERY GRACIOUS TO GET THE EXTRA PERSON LAST YEAR.

AND WHEN I HAVE SPENT ALL THE TIME TO PUT DOWN, THIS IS JUST A HALF SUMMARY, UM, THIS DOCUMENT OF WHAT EVERYONE DOES, IT REALLY PUTS INTO PERSPECTIVE, EVERYTHING THAT GOES THROUGH OUR OFFICE, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST CLERICAL STAFF, THAT JUST ENTER DATA NUMBERS EVERY DAY.

THERE IS PROFESSIONALISM AND EXPERTISE THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IN THESE AREAS.

UM, AND THAT I'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO HELP TRAIN THESE PEOPLE.

UM, MY EMPLOYEES AND THE POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES THAT I'M ABOUT TO HIRE.

UM, AND I DID HAVE A LOT OF GOOD CANDIDATES, UM, A LOT THAT EVEN HAD HR EXPERIENCE.

SO IT KIND OF GOES INTO PLAY EVERYTHING THAT I'M, THAT I'M STATING ON, ON THIS MAIN DOCUMENT.

UM, SO SINCE TURNING IN MY SPREADSHEET AND DOING MORE ANALYSIS, UH, WITH OTHER COUNTIES AND TRYING TO BETTER ALIGN MY DEPARTMENT TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE, I DEFINITELY FEEL THAT I NEED ANOTHER POSITION I'M LISTING BELOW HOW I WOULD POTENTIALLY ALIGN MIAMI, WHERE YOU RECLASSIFIED STAFF AND EXTRA POSITION IF Y'ALL APPROVED IT.

UM, SO I KIND OF CATEGORIZE EVERYTHING AS IN WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, A CLERK WOULD JUST BE A BASIC, YOU KNOW, THE JOB POSTINGS, THE RECRUITING, UM, THE PROCESSING APPLICATIONS, UM, THE PREEMPLOYMENT TESTING, THE NEW, NEW HEART ORIENTATIONS.

I MEAN, ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS, THE LITTLE ONE OFF THINGS, UM,

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AND THAT PERSON WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP THE OTHERS AND ALL THE, THE MAJOR TASKS THAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS.

UM, THAT'S WHY I PUT CART BEHIND EVERYTHING THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING.

UM, ALSO, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IN DEPTH, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, UM, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO EXPLAIN, UM, OH, THE PIECES TO GO THROUGH ALL OF WHAT, UH, EVERYTHING ON, ON HERE.

UM, AS IN THE DUTIES THAT MY DEPARTMENT HANDLES, UM, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE JUST THINK IT'S JUST HR.

UM, IT'S NOT JUST HR, IT'S SO MUCH MORE, UM, IT'S BENEFITS.

UM, IT'S RISK MANAGEMENT, IT'S WORKERS' COMP, UM, IT'S UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS, IT'S EMPLOYEE RELATIONS.

IT'S YOU NAME IT? IT'S ON THIS, ON THIS PATH PACKET.

I WANTED Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF IN THE TIMELINES, UM, UNDER THE MOUNT OF TERMINATIONS NEW HIRES, UM, THAT WE GET, UM, FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, AND TO CURRENT, HOW MANY FEMALE LEAVES MILITARY LEAVES, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, UH, JUST TO ENTER A NEW HARBOR ALONE, UM, CAN TAKE UP TO, UH, TO UP TO AN HOUR.

I MEAN, AND THAT'S JUST, IF ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE AND THERE'S NO DISRUPTIONS WHILE THE PERSON IS DOING THAT, UM, SAME WITH TERMINATIONS.

I MEAN, IT TAKES A LITTLE LESS, BUT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TOUCHED.

NOT ONLY DOES THAT PERSON HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND ENTER EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN FOR A NEW HIRE OR TERMINATION, THAT HAS TO BE DOUBLE CHECKED BECAUSE WITH OUR AUDITORS, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AUDITORS.

UM, SO WE HAVE CHECKLISTS, WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW WE GO THROUGH AND WE ENTER, AND THEN SOMEONE HAS TO DOUBLE CHECK IT.

SO IT'S DOUBLE WORK, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING, THE FIRST TIME IS DONE CORRECTLY FOR THE SECOND TIME.

SO IT'S DUAL WORK IN THERE, UM, PER SE, UM, THE FEMORAL LEAVES.

UM, WE ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE THOSE, UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THE COVID AND THE FFC IRA THAT HAS JUST EXPLODING AND TALKING TO ALL THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES.

I MEAN, EVERYONE HAS PRETTY MUCH GONE TO ASK FOR EXTRA HELP BECAUSE THERE IS JUST SO MUCH WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH KEEPING UP WITH THE FFC ARRAYS.

UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN EXPOSED, GIVING THEM GUIDANCE, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING OUT ON THE, OR A LEAVES FOR NUMBER FIVE FOR CHILDREN BEING OUT OF DAYCARE.

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO LAST.

UM, WE KNOW FCRA IS THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT EVERYONE IS ALREADY GEARING UP FOR, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT YEAR AS IN WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THEM.

WILL IT ALWAYS BE THERE, THE RISK MANAGEMENT? I MEAN, THAT'S AN EXPERTISE IN ITSELF.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLAIMS KIND OF CLAIMS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE CAN STAY ONGOING FOR, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS, BUT, UM, IF IT'S ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, IN REGARDS TO THE INJURY, UM, IN A LIABILITY PROPERTY OR WHATEVER, UM, THAT PERSON HAS SUSTAINED ON TOP OF FALLING REIMBURSEMENT.

SO WE GET THE REIMBURSEMENTS BACK, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT IS AS EFFICIENT AS IT CAN BE.

WE MAKE CHECKLISTS FOR EVERYTHING, UM, FOR BENEFITS, THE INVOICE AND STUFF.

WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IS ON THE PLAN.

YOU KNOW, RETIREES STAY ON ONLY UNTIL THEY'RE 65.

I MEAN, THERE'S CATCHALLS ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO THERE'S A SCIENCE TO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

AND WE PUT IT ON A CHECKLIST FOR A REASON.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE, UM, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY DO, BECAUSE EVERYONE WILL KNOW HOW TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BACKUP, BUT THIS WOULD AT LEAST ALLOW, UM, ME NOT TO BE SHOULDERS DEEP INTO EVERYTHING.

UM, EVERYONE NEEDING ME AND THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THESE TASK AND ME BE ABLE TO MANAGE MY DEPARTMENT BETTER AND DO MORE PROACTIVE, UH, DUTIES, RESEARCH.

MARY, DID YOU SAY YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING

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SOMEONE NOW? SO YOU HAVE A VACANCY NOW, WHEN I LET LINDSEY GO IN MARCH, UM, I HAD IMMEDIATELY WENT AND GOT APPLICATIONS IN THE COVID HEAD.

SO IT WAS KIND OF WITH THE SPLIT SCHEDULES AND EVERYTHING.

IT WAS KIND OF HARD, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF GOOD CANDIDATES, UM, IN THAT BATCH THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WHY, WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO HIRE BEHIND THE ENGINE? IT'S NOT, I DIDN'T DO IT.

I DIDN'T DO IT WHILE WE WERE IN COBRA DOING SPLIT SCHEDULES, BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULD BE HARD TO TRAIN THE PERSON WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

AND WE WERE WORKING FROM HOME ON SOME OF THOSE DATES AND STUFF.

SO NOW IS THE TIME THAT, UM, I'M JUST DOING IT.

OKAY.

OWN YOUR OWN, YOUR BACK PAGE, RISK MANAGEMENT PLANS.

WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY THE WHICH PART ON THE VERY BACK PAGE? I MEAN, NOT THE VERY BACK PAGE FOR A SECOND.

LAST PAGE, YOU GOT ALL THE THINGS.

EVERY NUMBER WENT DOWN IN THE CATEGORY, AUTO LIABILITY AND GENERAL LIABILITY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

EVERYBODY WENT DOWN EXCEPT FOR ALL IT, RISK MANAGEMENT PLANS, HR AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY 15.

WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT A LOT OF THAT, I THINK OF THIS YEAR, UM, AS IN COBIT, I MEAN, SO WE REALLY, WE HAD FROM OCTOBER TO WHAT MARCH, AND THEN THINGS HAVE KIND OF SOMEWHAT SLOWED DOWN.

WE HAVE HEAD INJURIES YESTERDAY.

SHE RAN ACROSS THE STREET FOR THE PERSON WHO FELL DOWN IN THE COURTHOUSE, BUT THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN AS MANY CRASHES OR RUNNING INTO OR CUTTING, UM, TIES AND STUFF.

AND ALL I CAN ATTRIBUTE THAT TO IS THAT WE'VE BEEN LUCKY.

THAT'S JUST AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY POLICY.

IS THAT WHAT THAT'S, WHY I DON'T KNOW WHAT RISK MANAGEMENT PLANS I WAS ASKED HIM.

WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? THE RISK MAY HAVE, IT IS A NUMBER AND A TOTAL OF THIS ONE.

IT IS EXACTLY.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EACH CAR? NOTHING.

HE DIDN'T SAY ALL OF THOSE CLAIMS IS THAT CLAIMS. IS IT, THOSE ARE ALL CLAIMS AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY CLAIMS. YES.

AUTO LIABILITY CLAIMS THE AUTO, THE PHYSICAL BODY DAMAGE CLAIMS, UH, THE GENERAL LIABILITY.

UM, IF WE HURT SOMEONE ELSE, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY, Y'ALLS PUBLIC OFFICIAL LIABILITY.

IF SOMEONE DOES A SUIT, I DON'T EVEN THINK I MENTIONED THE PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS UP A LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE TIED AT THE HIP WITH THE CIVIL IDEAS, WORKING THROUGH THOSE.

IT'S PRETTY AMAZING THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR 600 PEOPLE AND THAT'S IT, IT'S PRETTY LOW NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE ON AUTOMOBILE CLAIMS AND CLAIMS AND PROPERTY LOSS CLAIMS THAT WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KIND OF GOES OUT, JUST THINKING 15, 15 WRECKS.

YOU HAVE WHAT? 175 AUTOMOBILES IN THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO ME, BUT NOW IT DOES.

IT DOES TOO WELL.

YOU HAVE COMP CLAIMS. WELL, WORKERS' COMP IS, I MEAN, IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE ONGOING.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE CUTS A FINGER, SOMEONE TWIST THEIR ANKLE.

UM, IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE.

THE, YEAH, NO ONE WAS TAKING CARE OF IT.

WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WE WERE PAYING THE CHECK AND THEY WERE GETTING IT TOO.

IS THE, HIS OWN CLAIMS, IS IT MOSTLY IN PLACE FOR HIM OR IS IT IN, WHERE IS IT? I MEAN, I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN GIVE YOU BACK UP BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING NOW THAT I'VE STARTED IT IN WE'VE, WE'VE NOW FIGURED OUT THE PLACES THAT WE CAN GO AND PULL THE REPORTS, UM, OR, OR GONE TO THE VENDOR TO GET THE REPORTS AND EVERYTHING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BE TO DO, HOWEVER OFTEN MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO TO GIVE TO Y'ALL IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO I GIVE HER A REPORT, UM, BECAUSE Y'ALL SHOULD KNOW WHAT ALL IS GOING ON WITH THOSE.

UM, I JUST WANT TO, I MEAN, I'M SURE I RECOGNIZE YOU COORDINATED, BUT LIKE THESE LIABILITY CLAIMS JUST TACK HANDLE.

UH, THEY GO THROUGH TAC, UM, WORKER'S COMP, THEY HAVE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY AT WHAT IS YOUR IT'S RENAMED? ONE OF THE OTHER BROKER FIRMS, UM, PAY IT OUT NOW.

UH, BUT IT ALL GOES THROUGH TECH AND ALL THE RISK MANAGEMENT GOES THROUGH TECH.

EVERY TIME Y'ALL GET A VEHICLE, SHE HAS TO MAKE SURE IT'S INSURED TO SEND THEM PAGES WHERE IT'S BEEN PAID FORM, ALL THE GOOD STUFF.

YEAH.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN TODD KEYSAW WAS HERE, LAST, HE TALKED ABOUT HOW OUR WORKERS, NOT WORKER'S COMP NUMBERS HAVE GONE, YOU KNOW, IN THE POSITIVE, UM, BECAUSE THEY USED TO BE SO, SO BAD.

UM, I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WORK REALLY HARD.

I THINK THE INCENTIVES THAT Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, ALLOW US TO OFFER FOR THE WELLNESS DAY, UM, FOR OUR MEDICAL

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PLANS, UM, SHOWS IN JUST NUMBER ONE, OUR RENEWAL THIS YEAR WAS A MINUS ONE AND A HALF, UM, WHICH WAS GREAT.

AND THEN WE JUST GOT NOTICED THIS WEEK THAT WE'RE GETTING $166,000 CREDIT BACK.

UM, WHERE YEAR BEFORE LAST IT WAS 55 SOMETHING THOUSAND LAST YEAR.

IT WAS 61,000.

AND WE'RE GETTING LIKE $162,000 BACK THIS YEAR, WHICH TELLS ME THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE GOOD.

WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS.

WE'RE GETTING THE PREVENTIVE CARES DONE AND EVERYTHING.

UM, AT THE SIZE THAT WE'RE ARE, WE'RE GETTING NEAR TO WHERE WE COULD BE.

SELF-INSURED WHERE WE'RE FULLY INSURED.

NOW THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER BALL GAME, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THE SELF-INSURED WORLD SO MANY TIMES WHERE YOU'RE PAYING FOR EVERY CLAIM DOLLAR, BUT YOU'VE GOT, UM, A LIABILITY LIMIT, UM, THAT CUTS YOU OFF FOR EVERY PERSON AS A GROUP, AS A WHOLE, IF WE EVER WANTED TO VENTURE DOWN THAT WAY TO THINK THAT POSSIBLY IT COULD SAVE US MONEY ON WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS IS THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WENT TO THE CARE CENTER.

AND SO IT CAN BE A REPORT ONLY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'M BRINGING UP IS THAT ALL THE WORKER COMP CAME IN, GOT REALLY BIG LOSSES.

THEY CAN BE CUT FINGER, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD TO CUT THE FINGERS.

WE ALL SEND EVER WROTE AND WRITTEN SIN PEOPLE THAT CARRY YOUR MAT.

AND SO THREE TIMES A YEAR, I MEAN, DIFFERENT PEOPLE JUST FROM POISON IVY TO, AND I HAVE A FEELING 20 OF THOSE ARE POISONED I'M IN CLAIMS. YEAH.

SO, YEAH.

AND JUST GETTING A KICK OUT OF IT ON WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS. I MEAN, THAT IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAVE MORE TIME WHERE THEY'RE SPINNING ON THESE PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO DIVE DEEPER, THERE IS SO MUCH DATA TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHO'S GETTING, IF IT'S JUST MEDICAL CLAIMS, IF IT WAS JUST A REPORT, ONLY IF WE'RE PAYING THEM PAINFUL PAIN SALARY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF REPORT ONLYS.

THE ONE YESTERDAY, THE GENTLEMAN WHO FELL, HE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR OR ANYTHING.

HE SAID HE WAS FINE, BUT WE DO REPORT THAT WAY IF IN A FEW DAYS OR SO.

YES, YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THE AUTOMOBILE BILLING CLAIMS IS IN EVERYTHING FROM PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T PAY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IT'S THE SAME WAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU SAID IT'S A LOT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T PAY OUT A LOT OF CLAIMS. I THINK THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT JUST THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS FOR A FLEET OF 107.

SOME OF THEM ARE A CLAIMS, YOU KNOW, A MIRROR, YOU KNOW, THEY ALLEGED SOME THEIR, UH, MOTOR GRADER CLIP THEIR MIRROR OR SOMETHING.

IT'S NOT LIKE A TRUE ACCIDENT.

AND THE ADJUSTER, LUCKILY ON A LOT OF THOSE, THE WINDSHIELDS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD POTHOLES AND YOU BURST MY TIRE OR SOMETHING.

THEY'RE REALLY GOOD ABOUT DOING AN IMMEDIATE, NO, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT ALL THE COUNTIES OUT THERE GO THROUGH.

UM, SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A LOT OF THOSE THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH.

NOW, IF THE PRECINCT KNOWS THAT THEY OBVIOUSLY DID SOMETHING, THEY USUALLY LET US KNOW AND SAY, NO, WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT OURSELF OR NOTHING THEN TO FOLLOW IT ON THE CLAIM.

SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T FILED BECAUSE YOU AS A PRECINCT, WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE OF THE NUMBERS, I'M WANTING TO MAKE SURE WHAT THEY WERE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.

SO NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR LEVEL POSITION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? UM, YEAH, THE LAST PAGE, UM, I'M BASICALLY ASKING NUMBER ONE TO RE RE TITLE RECLASSIFY, MY HR CLERKS NOW TO THE HR GENERALISTS.

UM, AND IF I HAVE A, ANOTHER CAN BE GIVEN ANOTHER PERSON, UM, THAT WOULD BE AN HR CLERK, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE CATCHALL FOR EVERYTHING AND HELP WITH ALL THE OTHER, UM, HR GENERALIST POSITION PROJECTS.

AND LIKE I SAID, THIS BATCH THAT I HAVE, UM, MY, MY, MY THREE THAT I'M DOWN TO, I GOT REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES, BUT IT ALSO IS BECAUSE IT WAS HERE IN COVID.

SO SOME PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS, BUT I REALLY TRIED TO OUT THOSE THAT COME AND TALK WITH ME AS, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE A STEPPING STONE THAT YOU JUST COME HERE TO GET A JOB, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TURN AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

UM, SORRY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR BECAUSE I DID.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE INCREASES, IT'S NOW ANOTHER POSITION.

CAUSE I DON'T SEE ANOTHER POSITION IN THIS ORIGINAL MATH.

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THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THIS IS SO, SO, SO THIS IS ANOTHER POSITION NOW AND THE INCREASES.

OKAY.

IT'S FOR MY CURRENT THREE IN THE ORIGINALLY PUT TO, UM, $10,000 EXTRAS, IT WOULD BE ONE MORE, 10,000 EXTRA AND ANOTHER PERSON, BUT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE INCREASES.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THE SALARIES.

WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH INCREASES, BUT WE, WE HAVE, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE IN THE LAST COUPLE MEETING OR LAST MEETING WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO AUTHORIZE ANOTHER POSITION, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO AUTHORIZE ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER POSITION WHEN YOU APPROVED THE RESTRUCTURING PURCHASING OFFICE.

WELL, IT WASN'T A SALARY POSITION DRIVE.

NO, THERE WAS SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TOO.

SO YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIMES THE TIME TO DO THE MINOR.

THANKS.

DEALING WITH STUFF THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN TAKE CARE OF, TAKE IT OFF OF YOUR PLATE.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU'RE MORE INVOLVED WITH, AND THE TRAINING IS ALREADY OVER WITH, WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE.

I MEAN, YOU PRETTY MUCH GOT THEM UP TO THE POINT AND THEY CAN HANDLE THEMSELVES.

THE, THE TWO THAT I HAVE, UM, DEFINITELY GO INTO THE SPECIALIZED AREAS OF TWO OF THESE HR GENERALIST SPOTS THAT I HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT, NO DOUBT.

AND THEN THE, UM, UH, FMLA WITH THE, UM, ONBOARDING, NOT THE ONBOARDING, BUT THE, UM, ENTERING THE DATA OF EVERY PURCHASE REQUEST FORM THAT COMES THROUGH.

UM, THOSE TWO, HAVE IT DOWN TO PAT, UM, THE THREE CANDIDATES THAT I'M INTERVIEWING HAVE HR EXPERIENCE THAT NO LEAVE OF ABSENCES, NO COBRA, NO THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS WHY I FEEL THAT THAT POSITION NEEDS TO BE RATED JUST AS, AS THE OTHER TWO.

UM, ONLY THE CLERK IS I'M SAYING THAT I COULD GET AWAY WITH STARTING AT THE BOTTOM AS EVERYONE ELSE DOES.

UM, UNLESS YOU ALLOWED ME TO GET SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE AND BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT, WITH THAT AMOUNT, MARY, WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO DO NOW? BECAUSE YOU LIKED THIS, THIS NEW POSITION, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S MORE, WHAT ADDITIONAL, UH, PENAL FUNCTIONALITY WOULD YOU, IF YOU HAD THIS POSITION, JUST BEING ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE ABLE TO RESEARCH HOW OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING THINGS, TO SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, ARE WE DOING THINGS STREAMLINED VERSUS OTHER, OTHER COUNTIES BEING ABLE TO GO AND, UM, TALK WITH DIFFERENT, UH, COLLEGES OR INDUSTRY SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER, TO DO MORE RECRUITING.

WE DON'T DO ANY RECRUITING, YOU KNOW, WHATSOEVER, BUT I'VE TALKED TO SOME, BUT THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THAT TO GO AND BE ABLE AND SIT WITH EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HEAD TO SEE IS YOUR DEPARTMENT WORKING OKAY? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING, UH, TO WORK ON TRAINING? UM, THE POLICY MANUAL, UM, IS A HUGE THING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT ALWAYS GETS PUTS ON THE BACK BURNER, BUT IT TOTALLY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO JUST STOP, CATCH IT UP AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE, UM, DOING ADDENDUMS TO IT AFTERWARDS.

BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED SINCE HR BEGAN.

UM, WE HAVE ALL THE EXTRAS, UM, THAT, THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ADDED, UM, WHICH NEED TO BE PUT IN, BUT I HAVE BEEN COMPARING THAT POLICY WITH SEVEN OTHER COUNTIES POLICIES TO JUST LOOK IN PUT NOTES, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ALL DAY AFFAIR FOR US TO GO THROUGH.

IF I CAN JUST GET IT COMPLETED.

WE ALSO HAVE, UM, JUST HANGING IN THE BALANCE IS THE TC DRS PART TIME EMPLOYEES THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A CLEANUP THAT WE'RE GOING TO OWN MONEY BECAUSE BEFORE I GOT HERE, UM, TCR D TCRS, THERE IS A REGULATION THAT SAYS THAT, UM, IN 2006, ANY PART TIME EMPLOYEE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, TCD REST RETIREMENT, HAVING 7% TAKEN OUT AS MATCHING IT AFTER THEY, UM, BECAME VESTED.

AND THAT WAS NEVER DONE BEFORE I GOT HERE, AS SOON AS I GOT HERE AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, WE STARTED DOING IT.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TC DURESS TO SAY, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY RENDITIONS WE'VE DONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T GET IT, THAT WE'RE PUTTING AMOUNTS TO IT.

THE PROBLEMS, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE GONE.

WE'VE

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GONE SO FAR BACK THAT, UM, PAYROLL ONLY GOES SO FAR BACK.

SO WE DON'T HAVE W2'S FOR 2008, 2009, WHATEVER.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STATE TO TRY TO FIND OUT, GET COPIES OF THOSE W2.

SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY MADE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE 7% WAS.

NOW.

WE'VE THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW IS AN ACTIVE EMPLOYEES IS LESS THAN TWO DOZEN WHERE IT WAS WHEN I FIRST CAME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE LIST AND I'VE WORKED WITH THE CIVIL 80 DAYS OFFICES, AND YOU KNOW HOW WE SHOULD START IT OFF, LET'S START IT OFF WITH THE PEOPLE WHO CALLING ME EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE, PART-TIMERS, THEY'RE WORKING LESS HOURS, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS OUR MISTAKE, MY PREDECESSOR'S MISTAKE THAT THEY NEVER GOT PUT ON.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THEIR 7% PLUS OUR 7% JUST TO MAKE THEM CORRECT.

AND THAT'S GOING TO COST MONEY.

AND I'VE HAD THAT ON THE RADAR SINCE BRUCE WAS HERE.

BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, I CAN HAVE A GIRL WHEN THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PULL MAYBE THE RECORDS FOR ME, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF THEN GETTING IT ONTO THE TC DURESS, SEPARATE PAGES S MEETING AND GOING OVER THOSE AND STUFF.

SO I'M JUST PULLED IN SO MANY PLACES.

THERE'S NOT, I GUESS I CAN'T DO WHAT I DO BEST, UM, IN MOVING MY TEAM FORWARD.

IF, IF I HAVE TO BE SHOULDER STEEP INTO EVERYTHING, I WOULD SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, KIND OF A MANAGEMENT PRINCIPLE THAT I LEARNED WAS THAT, OR I WAS TALKING TO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE EMPLOYEES, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

CAUSE THEN, I MEAN, GENERALLY, IF, IF YOU HAVE A FUNCTIONALITY IN YOUR ORGANIZATION, UH, BY THE TIME YOU HIT THAT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THEN ALL YOU DO IS SPEND TIME MANAGING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YOU DON'T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING.

WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL BABYSITTING OR WHEN YOU GET TO MEET.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DEPENDS ON HOW AUTONOMOUS THEY ARE, BUT ANYWAY, NO, I'VE HAD LARGER DEPARTMENTS, SO I'VE JUST NEVER HAD A DEPARTMENT IN A GOVERNMENT SETTING WHERE, WHEN I TOOK IT OVER, SOME OF THE THINGS WEREN'T DONE CORRECTLY.

SO MARY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

SO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THREE FILLED POSITIONS, ONE VACANT POSITION TODAY, ARE YOU INCLUDING ME? YEAH.

SO YOUR TEAM OF THREE PLUS ONE VACANT, YOU HAVE FOUR TOTAL BUDGETED.

YOU'RE ASKING TO HAVE FIVE POSITIONS BUDGETED.

UH, AND SO WHAT I DON'T SEE AND WHEN I WOULD HAVE DONE IT, IS THERE, IS THERE ALL THE INCIDENTALS FOR THE, FOR A FIFTH PERSON? SO A COMPUTER, A DESK SPACE.

YES.

WHAT I PUT IN ONE OF MY COMMENTS WAS THAT I COULD USE THE MONEY IF, IF THE COURT ALLOWED, UM, THE MONIES THAT ARE LEFTOVER THAT I HAD FOR TRAINING OR, UM, OPS EQUIPMENT, OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO GO TOWARDS ANOTHER DESK, COMPUTER, WHAT HAVE YOU WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT YEAR'S BUDGET.

YES.

YOU HAVE SPACE FOR, UH, AND THAT'S, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THREE OH ONE.

WHAT'S THE TOTAL FINANCIAL IMPACT OF A CLERK POSITION? 50 15.

YEAH, THE BASE, THE BASE WOULD BE THE 34 ONE ONE FOUR.

SO THE TOTAL IMPACT IS 50 50, 50,295, 15.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

BURNS YOU PAY AGAIN EVERY DAY.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

UM, AND YOUR COUNTY JUDGE FOR THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I WANTED ALL THE INSURANCES TO BE CHARGED TO THE DEPARTMENTS.

WE NEVER HAD DONE THAT BEFORE.

UM, I KNEW MARY DIDN'T HAVE STAFF THAT CAN DO IT.

SO I CREATED A REPEATING JOURNAL ENTRY THAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET A ATTACK HEALTH BENEFIT BILL, SO WE'RE 500 AND SOMETHING, AND THEY'D HAVE TO DO A SPREADSHEET BY DEPARTMENT WITH EACH NUMBER AND US HAVE TO TYPE IT ALL IN.

WHEREAS MY SYSTEM, I CAN JUST GENERATE IT, CHECK THE TOTAL BY THE DEPARTMENTS, IF IT'S RIGHT, STW LETS ME UPLOAD IT.

AND IT CREATES THE JOURNAL ENTRY, MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.

AND POSTS

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A BRANDY.

DID IT LAST MONTH FOR ME, FOR THE FIRST TIME, SHE'S LEARNED HOW TO DO IT.

SO CAN YOU IMAGINE THE TIME THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO BUILD THAT SPREADSHEET EVERY MONTH? BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH THE BIGGER DEPARTMENTS, HAVING THE TURN AROUND AND STUFF, YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF OR TO PUT PEOPLE ON AND ADJUSTMENTS WITH RETIREES AND COPE OR TO, YOU KNOW, NO, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE YOU LIKE IN VR.

OKAY.

SO WHAT'S, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT I GUESS, IS, UH, IS THAT WHETHER OR NOT THAT, UH, THAT WE WANT TO CREATE THAT EXTRA POSITION.

I THINK MARY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF JUSTIFYING IT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING NOTHING BUT GROWING.

WHO'S THE EXTRA HELP.

I'M SURE.

WHAT IS OUR TURNOVER? I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY BACK TOP OF MY HEAD, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HIGH BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY TO, ESPECIALLY IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE A LOT THAT TERM AND COME ON BOARD.

I MEAN THE PAYROLL CHANGE FORMS NEVER STOP EVERY WEEK.

UM, THERE'S I MEAN, WE'RE JUST SIGNING THEM CONSTANTLY.

OKAY.

THEN WHAT ARE THOSE? I MEAN, YEAH.

I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT IS IT BECAUSE THEY GET PROMOTED, THEY GET, THEY GET, IT WAS THEN THEY RETIRE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE RETIRE THIS YEAR.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST LEFT, UM, WITH THE COVID SOME PEOPLE YEAH.

TERMINATED FOR CAUSE EVERY, EVERY SCENARIO, UM, RECLASSIFICATION, UM, SHERIFF'S OFFICE WENT THROUGH RECLASSIFYING, A LOT OF, UM, HIS MEN.

SO EVERY TIME IT TOUCHES A PERSON, WHETHER IT'S THEIR TITLE, ANYTHING, IT, IT HAS TO BE ON A FORM AND WE HAVE TO DO IT.

SO WHAT'S OUR TURTLE TOTAL WORKFORCE NOW 616.

DON'T WORRY.

MY DOLLAR.

I MIGHT NOT.

BRITTANY RAN THAT YESTERDAY TO RERUN THE NUMBER.

IT COULD CHANGE.

YOU HAVE TO PAGE THROUGH IT.

YOU SEE 600.

THERE YOU GO.

YUP.

THAT WAS AS OF YESTERDAY, NEW POSITION IS, AND NEXT TO NOT PART TIME POSITIONS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SURE, SURE.

THAT'S THAT THE INTERESTING QUESTION, KNOWING THAT THEY DON'T TEND TO, THEY DO SOME HR, THEY DO HR THERE'S HELP TOO.

SO WE POST THERE, UM, THREE JOBS CONTINUALLY.

UM, THEY COME IN AND DO A SMALL APPLICATION WITH US.

UM, AND THEN WE FORWARD THAT ON AND WE DON'T HEAR BACK FROM HIM UNTIL THEY HIRE THEM.

AND THEN WE GET THE PAYROLL CHANGE FORM AND WE GO FROM THERE.

SO THEN IT'S A MATTER OF HOW THAT PERSON GROWS STARTING OFF.

UM, AND THEN GOING ON THAT, WE KEEP UP WITH THEM.

WE'RE UP TO SIX 31.

WHAT Y'ALL APPROVE SINCE WHAT IF A LOT OF YOUR TIME IS BEING SPENT DOING SOUNDS TERRIBLE TO SAY REMEDIAL THINGS, BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S THIS IN DEPTH STUFF, BUT I MEAN, DOING OTHER THINGS, THEN IT'S STUFF LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR SALARY SURVEYS AND WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS.

I MEAN, YOU'RE THE EXPERT THAT UNDERSTANDS THE SALARIES AND WHAT'S REQUIRED FEDERALLY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, NOT ONE OF US UP HERE TO DEAL WITH THE CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET WHAT WE WANT AND WE'VE DONE THE APPROPRIATE WAY.

SO I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIRING SOMEONE SO YOU CAN DO YOUR JOB THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE EFFECTIVELY.

AND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE FIVE PEOPLE I KNOW SPANISH CONTROL IS FIVE TO SEVEN PEOPLE TO CONTROL, BUT IT'S HARD IF YOU'RE A MICROMANAGER AND YOU WANT TO MICROMANAGE EVERYBODY, IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH.

CERTAINLY IF YOU TRAIN YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU MAKE THEM EFFICIENT AND STUFF, WHERE THEY FUNCTION AS A TEAM AND A SMOOTH GROUP, THEN YOU'RE FREE TO DO MORE AND USE YOUR EXPERTISE AND WE'RE PAYING YOU FOR TO DO SO.

I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PERSON BEING THERE TO MAKE THE DEPARTMENT RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY.

I AGREE.

AND, AND I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I KNOW Y'ALL, HAVEN'T GOT TO BUDGET LINE ITEMS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M JUST COMING INTO THE END OF MY THIRD YEAR.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED.

UM, YOU KNOW, REDONE LIKE THE NOVA TIME, UM, AND, AND PUTTING

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IN PLACE THE NOVA TIME THAT WAS PURCHASED THE, FOR ME, THE WHOLE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT ALSO THE LABOR LAW POSTERS AROUND HERE, THOSE NEED TO BE UPDATED.

UM, I THINK I LANDED ALL OUT IN MY, UM, IN MY ATOMS, I'M DOING A BETTER JOB AT WORKER'S COMP HAVING DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND CITIZENS OVER TO KERRY UNITED.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'M TALKING TO THAT MANAGER OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE OUR PEOPLE SITTING, WAITING.

NOT THAT OURS ARE SPECIAL, BUT IF WE'RE SENDING OVER THERE FOR AN URGENT ISSUE, I NEED OTHER AREAS AND THERE ARE OTHER AREAS, BUT THERE'S NOT TIME FOR ANY RESEARCH TO BE DONE, TO JUST GO AND EVALUATE ANOTHER COMPANY, TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

UM, SAME THING WITH DRUG TESTING, WHY CAN'T THERE BE ONE IN EACH PRECINCT? I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A QUALIFIED PERSON THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, OR COMPANY THAT WE COULD GET TO DO IT.

UM, NONE OF THOSE THINGS DO I HAVE TIME TO, WHEN WAS THE LAST POSITION ADDED TO HR? UH, LAST OCTOBER 1ST.

SO YOU HAVE ONE LAST YEAR AS WELL.

YEAH.

SHE'LL GIVE IT TO ME OCTOBER 1ST.

SHE STARTED IN NOVEMBER.

WHAT WAS MIKE TOTAL OF FIVE WITH ME? YES.

YEAH.

THAT WAS MY GOAL.

WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ADDITION OF A, YOU KNOW, OF AN ENTRY LEVEL CLERK GENERALIST WOULD BE, WOULD BE A VALID, UH, FUNCTION IN THE COUNTY.

SO, UH, BEING FED ROAD THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.

SO I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT BLOOD RED AND IF YOU WILL, PLEASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MARY.

HUH? THANK YOU.

UM, SO JERRY, GO ON, I GUESS NOW WE'RE STILL ON PAGE 17, 17 TAX COLLECTOR.

UH, THE ADJUSTMENT THERE IS THE SALARY SUPPLEMENT THAT'S BEEN ADDED IN THERE.

LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST GET, KEEP GOING PAGE.

YEAH.

PAGE 18 TRUED UP MAINTENANCE CENTER FROM, FROM BOBBY'S CONVERSATION ON MONDAY, THERE WAS THE TWO 50 AND THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S BEEN ADJUSTED BACK OUT OF, THERE IS TWO 52, SIX 21, UM, PAGE 19.

UH, I'VE GOT TO MAKE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS HERE, THE MATH ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE, BUT IF YOU RECALL, UH, THAT OF THESE POSITIONS WERE CONTINGENT UPON GETTING THAT RENOVATION DONE.

SO SHE CAN'T HIRE SOMEBODY UNTIL SHE HAS THE SPACE.

AND SO I'LL HAVE TO PRORATE SOME OF THESE AND I MISSED HALF OF A SALARY ON ONE, THE TOTAL MATH WON'T CHANGE, BUT I'M JUST GONNA ADJUST THIS AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

UM, BUT THERE'S THE MATH, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, PAGE 20 OUT TO THE RIGHT ARE THE REQUESTS.

THE ONE NOTE HERE, AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT THE ASK WAS, CAN ANY INCREASES FOR THIS DEPARTMENT BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE FUND? THERE'S A FIRE CODE FUND.

AND THAT'S AN AUDITOR QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN OR IF THEY CAN'T BE PAID OUT OF THAT FUND.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COVERS PERSONNEL OR NOT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ASS THAT'S OUT THERE.

UH, PAGE 21, THIS INCLUDES THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE WERE APPROVED.

PAGE 22.

THERE'S A REQUEST OUT THERE FOR AN INCREASE IN SALARY.

UH, THAT NUMBER IS WRITTEN OUT THERE.

I'M ON PAGE 22, PAGE 23.

I JUST BROKE IT OUT FOR MY PURPOSES SO I COULD SEE THINGS A LITTLE BETTER.

IT'S STILL THE, THE MATH IS ALL THE SAME SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

ALL THE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN PUT IN WITH ALL THE INCREASES.

SAME FOR PAGE 25.

UM, NO DIFFERENCE ON 26, 27, 28, WE GET THE 29.

UM, KAREN'S GONNA FIX LEASE AND CAPITAL.

WE'VE GOT THAT FLEET.

THAT'S UP THERE UNDER, UNDER, YEAH.

WE'RE GOING TO FIX ALL THAT AND PUT IT BACK DOWN IN HERE TO GET YOU BACK UP TO PAGE 23, 23, EITHER YOU WERE CARING FOR MY IGNORANCE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT STEP PAY SUPPLEMENT IS STEP.

YEAH.

BE GIVEN TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THE SHERIFF HAD PRESENTED A BAG AND IT IS AFTER EVERY TWO YEARS OF SERVICE, YOU GET $2,000.

EVERY TWO YEARS YOU GET A $2,000 RAISE.

YEP.

IS ON YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, HE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE JAIL AND THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS A THOUSAND.

SO WHEN YOU DID THAT FOR THIS SHERIFF AND THE JAIL, OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT, FAR MORE SHOW WOMAN DID TO WHAT YOU DO FREAK OUT.

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YOU PICK OUT, YOU PEEK OUT.

YEAH.

IS IT UP TO HIM UP TO A MAXIMUM? YES.

YEAH.

WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM? I DON'T KNOW, 24 HOURS.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WHEN THEY, BEFORE THEY STARTED THE STEP PAY IT, I MIGHT BE, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT THE TOP PAY, HE TOOK A CAPTAIN AND THEY'D BEEN THERE 24 YEARS.

IT'D BE MAKING $51,000.

AND THAT WAS THE REASON THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE NEVER BAIL OUT TO RETAIN ANYBODY.

I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE.

I UNDERSTOOD IT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, I MEAN, NOW THEY'LL TOP OUT IT AT 74 INSTEAD OF 51 OR WHATEVER.

WELL, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT PAINTS.

THERE WAS LAW ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? THERE'S THE BASE SALARY.

THERE'S THE SUPPLEMENT.

AND THEN THERE'S A PROFICIENCY CRAZY PAY, WHICH I GUESS IS CERTIFICATION PAY BASICALLY.

YEAH.

THAT'S THEIR MASTERS ADVANCED.

RIGHT? WELL, THEY GET, AND THEY GET LONGEVITY, YOU KNOW, AND I BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T GIVE THEM LONG.

JEVITY PAY.

IF THEY GIVE STEP PAY IN PROFESSIONAL, PLAY THE STEP, PAYS, TAKING PLACES, LONGEVITY THING.

YEAH.

SO WHILE WE'RE BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT THERE, COULD WE GO BACK TO PAGE 20 ON THE FIRE MARSHALL SALARY PAGE? WHAT PAGE 20 HE'S ASKING FOR A 7,000 INCREASE HERE.

MIKE IS THAT, UH, IS RANDY'S SALARY IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU WOULD THINK FOR A FIRE MARSHALL AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PAY SCALES USUALLY RUN, BUT THAT SEEMS KIND OF LOW TO ME BY MARSHALL.

WELL, I WORKED FOR CDS MUNICIPALITY SIDE, YOU KNOW, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU FOR A COUNTY, BUT, UH, YEAH.

THE BASE SALARY IS, IS, IS LOW, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, BUT THEN YOU PUT THIS STEP, PLAY IN THE PROFICIENCY PAY.

YEAH.

IT'S HIS KIND OF MISLEADING, BUT THE BASE SALARY, I WOULD THINK FROM A CITY STANDPOINT IS YES, THE FIRE MARSHALL DOESN'T GET 30,000 IN STEP PAY THAT'S BECAUSE SHE, JERRY PUT IT THERE FOR THE OTHER EMPLOYEES.

SO YOU BEEN HAVE TO LOOK ON THE SALARY SHEET LIKE THAT.

I PRINTED IT OUT FOR YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHAT RANDY'S IS.

AND THAT WOULD TELL YOU HIS CERTIFICATIONS, HIS PROFICIENCY, HIS LONGEVITY FOR BASE SALARY, THE BASE SALARY FOR, FROM A MUNICIPAL STANDPOINT IS, OH YEAH, WE ALREADY TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE FIRE HOOK FUND TO THE GENERAL FROM WHEN HE RENTED A VEHICLE OR SOME OTHER KIND OF ITEMS THAT HE ACTUALLY EARNED WHILE THEY WERE IN THE FIRE STUFF.

YOU KNOW, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS ILLEGAL TO MOVE.

AND IF THEY GET THE STEP PAY, THE MARKS WOULD GET THE STEP PAID RIGHT ALONG THE SAME AS THE SHERIFF.

AND THEY GET THE SAME PAY RATE WHEN THEY'RE STARTING OUT AND ALL THAT.

AND THERE, THE FIRE MARSHALL FUND.

IS THAT PART OF THE FUNDS THAT YOU MOVED INTO THIS BUDGET? NO, SIR.

I HAVEN'T TOUCHED THAT TO Y'ALL PROVED IT.

UM, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT PAGE IT IS THAT WASN'T ONE OF THE FEES THAT YOU NO, SIR.

THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT ALRIGHT.

BACK PAGES.

GOOD.

I'M READY.

ALRIGHT.

SO 29, WE'LL CLEAR THAT UP AND WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE THOSE THINGS BACK INTO THOSE TWO, AT LEAST IN CAPITAL.

UM, PAGE 30, NO CHANGES.

PAGE 31.

THE QUESTION, I MEAN, I GUESS THE FIRE MARSHALL, OR AM I LOOKING AT OKAY.

I JUST FOUND IT FINALLY ON THE DEAL.

WHERE'S IT AT? I COULDN'T FIND IT.

IT'S LINE THREE 16, PLEASE.

PAGE SIX OF 18 ON THE SALARIES.

EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN, I'VE GOT EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED.

YOU'LL BE GETTING 14,000 AND STEPPED BACK, BUT YOU DIDN'T ADD THE REQUEST FROM THE FUND.

I DID NOT ADD THAT INTO THAT TOTAL.

NO.

ANY REQUESTS FOR WAGES ARE NOT IN ANY OF THESE NUMBERS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS WANTING TO DOUBLE CHECK.

YEAH.

I'M HIGHLIGHTING EVERYTHING.

YEAH, IT IS NOT.

YES.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT BASE SALARY IS OKAY.

IT'S 31.

I MADE TWO ADJUSTMENTS IN TRANSFERS CARE AND I ADJUSTED, I ADJUSTED THE LIBRARY AND I ADJUSTED INDIGENT HEALTH TO COVER THOSE BALANCE AMOUNT FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS THAT WERE ADDED IN THERE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SUPPOSED TO DO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I MADE.

TWO, TWO SMALL ADJUSTMENTS THERE.

THERE'S YOUR TOTAL TWO 45, FOUR 40.

YOU JUST TOOK 50 OUT OF THAT.

SO YOU'RE

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AT ONE 95 AND SOME CHANGE NOW WITH THAT ONE ADJUSTMENT TO HR.

CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOUR CONTINGENCY SETS.

AS OF, AS OF THIS MATH, ONE 90, ONE 95, WHERE YOUR CONTINGENCY WOULD BE, AND THE NEW KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE US PULLING THE RESERVE CONTINGENCY TO SET ASIDE FOR, FOR INCREASES IN JANUARY, THAT WOULD COME OUT OF FUND OUT OF UNSPENT DOLLARS FOR THIS YEAR.

RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THIS, OUT OF OUR EXISTING BUDGET.

THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE HELD IN RESERVE.

SO TAKING THAT OUT, TAKE 50 OUT OF THAT TWO 45 AND YOU'LL BE AT ONE, ONE 95 WOULD BE YOUR CONTINGENCY.

WE DO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT THOUGH.

KAREN.

CAUSE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THE AUDITORS' APPROVED INCREASES.

WE'LL HAVE A FEW, UH, IF THOSE COURT REPORTERS GO THROUGH, THEN THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE.

SO THERE'LL BE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.

SO I'M, I'M SUSPECTING, YOU'RE PROBABLY CLOSER TO 120, 130 SENDING CONTINGENCY.

OKAY.

PAGE, PAGE 31.

I'LL GO THROUGH THESE FUNDS PRETTY QUICK.

THERE'S REALLY NO, THE ONLY ONES THAT REALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO PAUSE ON WOULD BE STARTING ON PAGE 35, JUST WROTE RODEN BRIDGE.

JUST KNOW THAT WE GOT TO BALANCE OUT ALL THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ACCOUNTS.

MR. HUNT.

AND I WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE MEETING.

YOUR REVENUE IS WHAT YOUR REVENUE IS.

SO YOUR REVENUE IS IN THERE.

AND SO WE JUST GOT TO TAKE THE REVENUE.

WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS UNSPENT THIS YEAR.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROJECTION WOULD BE.

WHAT WILL BE, WILL BE UNSPENT THIS YEAR.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU START.

SO MAYBE I MAYBE I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING IT, BUT MY, MY, MY MATH WOULD TELL ME HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE BEING FUNDED FOR NEXT YEAR.

PLUS ANYTHING IT'S UNSPENT FOR THIS YEAR WOULD BE YOUR NEW BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO, TO WALK THROUGH IT.

AND THAT HAS TO BE ZERO.

SO IF YOU'LL SEE ON HERE, THERE ARE THESE RED NUMBERS, THEY GOT, THEY CAN'T BE READ.

THEY'VE GOTTA BE, THEY'VE GOTTA BE BALANCED OUT.

SO WE'LL NEED THAT BY MONDAY.

IF WE COULD, THAT WAY I CAN DO A PROPOSED BY TODAY.

I'VE GOT A FILE BY THE END, WE GOT A FILE BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

SO IF BY MONDAY WE HAD THESE BALANCED OUT OTHER THAN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS, KAREN, THERE WAS ONLY A COUPLE THAT ONCE I TRUED UP PAYROLL, THE FUNDS WERE A LITTLE BIT OFF.

SO ADULT PROBATION, JUVENILE PROBATION, SOME OF THOSE ARE PLACEHOLDERS, BUT WE'LL GET THOSE ALL TRUE.

YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL PROBATION HAS THEIR MEETING ONCE.

YEAH.

SO SOME OF THOSE WERE PLACE HOLDERS FOR US, BUT NO, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF GENERAL FUND.

BUT FOR MONDAYS PURPOSES, WE DO NEED TO BALANCE OUT FUN 20.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE WHERE THERE'S NO RED IN ANY OF THOSE PARTICULAR, UM, DEPARTMENT BUDGETS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, FOR THE MATH PURPOSES.

SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION.

THE WAY I ALLOCATED YOUR REVENUE WAS BASED UPON THAT SPREADSHEET THAT Y'ALL HAD AGREED ON ALLOCATION OF REVENUES BY PERCENTAGE.

SO THAT'S THE MATH OF TOTAL REVENUE.

AND THEN I SUBTRACTED ONE FOURTH OF THE ROAD ENGINEER BUDGET OUT OF EACH OF YOUR BUDGETS.

SO AT THAT TWO 54 OR TWO 25 SPORT, FIVE 64, EACH OF YOUR BUDGETS IS BEING SUBTRACTED.

ONE FOURTH OF THAT OUT OF TOTAL REVENUE TO FUND THAT ONE PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, I CAN EITHER TAKE IT OFF THE TOP OR I COULD DO IT THAT WAY.

IT WAS EASIER JUST TO LET IT, LET IT FLOW AND JUST HAVE IT.

HE'S ONLY GOING TO WORK FOR ROAD AND BRAVES.

THEN HE, UH, HE IS ONLY FUNDED OUT OF FUND 20.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND WORK FOR .

THAT'S A SEPARATE TAX.

IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT'S ALL FUNDED.

SO I CAN ONLY WORK FOR ROAD RAGE.

IF YOU TAKE HIS WHOLE SALARY OUT ROAD, RAGING ONLY WORK FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE PERIOD.

THAT'S HOW IT, THAT'S PROBABLY ALL THEY'LL BE DOING.

THAT'S HOW IT'S CURRENTLY FUNDED.

YEAH, WELL HE ALREADY DOES.

THERE'S MORE THAN RODEN BRIDGE WORK.

YOU KNOW, WHEN HE DOES DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES WORK, THAT'S NOT RODDENBERRY OUR FLOOD FOR FLOOD PLAIN WORK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN OR RON RAISED IT.

AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN POLITICALLY SILO IN THE CELLAR COUNTY PROPERTY ON OTHER STUFF RATHER THAN BREAD AND MONEY.

CAUSE HE SPENT FOR THE USE OF ROAD AND BRIDGE OR WHATEVER FOR, OR FOR OFFICE IN THE ROAD RAGE OR WHATEVER.

THAT'S JUST THE WALL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO JUST TO BE LEGAL, WE MIGHT NEED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF A GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION TO THAT FUNCTION.

I SAID CAN WE FIND WITH, HE'S BEEN HERE FOR HOW MANY MONTHS NOW

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MEAN, I DON'T REMEMBER SIX, SEVEN MONTHS OR SOMETHING, BUT I THINK SEVEN, YOU KNOW, AND THE WHOLE OBJECT WAS TO SAVE MONEY WITH OUR ENGINEERING FARMS. SO CAN WE KIND OF GET A, A GUESS ON WHAT WE'RE PAYING OUT FOR OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FEES VERSUS WHAT WE WERE BEFORE? I DON'T SEE ONE KIND OF SAVINGS THAT WE'RE SAVING HERE FOR THE, I DON'T THINK YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TRACK THAT RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA TO LOOK AT, BUT I DON'T, IF THAT HASN'T BEEN INFORMATION THAT SOMEBODY HAS BEEN TRACKING UP TO NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK.

CAN YOU SIGN ALL THE ENGINEERING? I MEAN ALL THE ENGINEER STUFF, I THINK YOU'D WANT TO SCIENCE, ROB, BUT I DON'T KNOW, NOT EVEN COUNTING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN ATTRIBUTE TO DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE, YOU KNOW, A, SOME TIME AGO.

YEAH.

LET'S SAY HE HAS, SOME OF HIS FUNCTIONS ARE, ARE CLEARLY ADDRESSED TO, TO BOND EXPENDITURES AS WELL, AS OPPOSED TO JUST OUR DAY TO DAY RODEN BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL OPERATIONS.

SO SOME OF HIS, UH, EVEN SOME OF THE ENGINEERING COSTS THAT, UH, WE'VE ACCRUED THIS YEAR ARE GOING TO BE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH RODIN WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, AS OPPOSED TO OUR STANDARD UTILIZATION OF, UH, UH, OF OUR CONTRACT ENGINEER.

I GUESS THEN YOU COULD BREAK THAT DOWN IS, I MEAN, THERE'S A MANAGING A ROAD VERSUS THE TESTING AND RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THAT THERE'S A POINT TO WHERE THE OTHER ENGINEERING FIRM WILL GIVE THEM THE SCHEMATICS OR THE PLAN OR WHATEVER.

AND AT THAT POINT THEY'RE OUT OF THE BALL GAME AND THEN OUR ENGINEER STEPS UP AND TAKES CARE OF THE MANAGERS IS ALL OF IT.

SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY FOR SOMEONE OUTSIDE TO COME IN AND MANAGE ALL THOSE PROJECTS.

I MEAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND REACHING FOR THE EXPERTISE ON THE OUTSIDE.

THEY TELL US WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE DEAL.

YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, HERE'S YOUR GAME PLAN, FOLLOW IT.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEY'RE OUT OF THE GAME MILITIA, YOU DON'T RUN INTO A PROBLEM, WHICH YOU KNOW IS REALISTIC, BUT THAT WAY WE SAVED THE DAY TO DAY OR SEVERAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH.

YEAH.

I THINK WHAT GINS GETTING AT THOUGH IS HOW DO WE PAY HIM? MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF A PERCENTAGE OF HIS TIME IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON THESE BOND PROJECTS.

HE SHOULD BE PAID OUT OF THOSE BOND PROJECTS INSTEAD OF OUR, I HAVE IT'S ROAD RAGE, THE MOUNTAIN PROJECT THOUGH, WHAT'S YOUR, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING IF HE'S GOING TO WORK OUTSIDE ROUTE AND BRIDGE, THEN THAT PERCENTAGE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAID BY GENERAL FUND.

YEAH.

OR WE COULD GET AUDITED IN, NAILED FOR IT FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW AND IN, AND THEN I ONLY RECEIVED 13%.

HE'S NOT GONNA, HE'S NOT GOING TO DO 25%.

I'M NOT GOING TO PAY HIM 25%.

SO, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATIONS OUGHT TO BE SET ON OUR PORTION WITH THE PROPORTION OF MONEY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

AT LEAST START THERE.

SO LAY IT OUT THAT WAY, THEN THEN DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THAT YOU'D WANT TO FUND IT ELSEWHERE.

IF I GET 13% OR 13.4% UP, I'LL CONTRIBUTE 13.4%.

I'M LETTING THEM CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN, THAN YOU THE SAME.

SO THAT'S THE MAIN, OKAY.

SO, BUT I THINK WE ALSO OUGHT TO BY EXTENSION, I THINK WE ALSO DO NEED TO FIND THEM UP WITH A NUMBER THAT A PERCENTAGE OF HIS SALARY THAT MUST BE FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, WHETHER IT'S OUT OF, WHETHER IT'S OUT OF PERMITTING FEES, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT KIND OF THING THAT COMES OUT OF DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES BECAUSE HE, MY OBSERVATION IS HE SPENDS A LOT OF TIME ON DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES STUFF.

WELL, I DO TOO IN GIS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

AND PLUS, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

I MEAN, THAT WAS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE EARLIER IS, IS, UH, WHEN MONIQUE'S DURING MONIQUE'S PRESENTATION AND RON'S IS SHIFTING DUTIES, UH, WITH HIS NEW POSITION, THOSE WERE ALL DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES FUNCTIONS INTO HIS CURRENTLY DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES INTO HIS WHEELHOUSE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE, I DON'T THINK I'M, I DON'T THINK I'M, I DON'T SAY NERVOUS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND REALIZE THAT WHATEVER NUMBERS WE COME UP WITH, IF A DEVELOPMENT SERVICE IS SOME OF HIS FUNDING NEEDS TO COME OUT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OR SOME OF HIS FUNDING NEEDS TO COME OUT OF BOND FUNDING.

THOSE ARE JUST GOING TO BE ESTIMATES.

I MEAN, THERE'S, I DON'T THINK UNDERSTAND.

I WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE HAVING HIM SPEND ALL THIS TIME, DOING TIME SHEETS ON EACH.

I AGREE.

I THINK WE, WE COULD EASILY SOME PERCENTAGE,

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THEN SOMEBODY CAN HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.

I THINK WE COULD EASILY COME UP WITH A NUMBER HERE JUST AMONGST OUR OWN, UH, UH, EXPERIENCE AND OUR EXPERTISE.

LIKE FOR INSTANCE, HIS, HIS TOTAL NUMBER IS, IS TWO 25, RIGHT? TWO 25.

SO, UH, IF WE FOUND 25,000 OUT OF GENERAL FUND AND, AND HAD THAT DIVERTED AND THEN THE 200,000 DIVIDED BY OUR PERCENTAGES, I THINK WE WOULD BE, WE'D BE LEAST B UH, WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE INTENT.

WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE INTENT OF THE STATUTE.

THAT MAKES SENSE EVERYBODY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO PUT THAT 25,000 IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? THEY DON'T HAVE A TAX.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG FISH AND THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE HE'S GOING TO SPEND MOST OF HIS TIME.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, THAT'S OKAY.

OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD IN BRIDGE.

SO KAREN, I GUESS WE COULD PUT A PLACE HOLDER.

WE COULD JUST PUT IT AS EXTRA HELP FOR NOW AS A PLACEHOLDER WOULD GIVE, LET US DO THE MATH ANYWAY, I THINK, YEAH, BECAUSE PAYROLL HAS TO BE SET UP PERCENTAGE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HIS PERCENTAGE AND THE, NOW WE CAN JUST DO IT.

WE CAN JUST DO A LUMP SUM.

COULDN'T MAKE A PLACE HOLDER LUMP SUM AT 25.

K YOU CAN, BUT IN PAYROLL, YOU CAN'T.

YEAH.

WHATEVER 20, WHATEVER PERCENTAGE 25,000 IS, IS IMPORTANT.

OKAY.

THAT'S YOUR PERCENTAGE TAKING IT OUT A ROAD BRIDGE Y'ALL HAVE A SEPARATE TAX, RIGHT.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS I'M GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF GENERAL AND TRANSFER IT TO ROMAN BRIDGE.

OKAY.

YOU'RE COVER.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO DO IT.

WE'LL GO WITH THEM.

THE DETAILS OF THE SHOT SHOWERING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

PLAYING THAT AGAIN.

YEAH.

BECAUSE ROAD AND BRIDGE IS A SEPARATE TAX.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I DO NOT WANT TO TRANSFER OUT A ROME BRIDGE TO JUNE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

DIDN'T COVER THAT.

I'M GOING TO DO IS TAKE IT OUT OF JUNE ROLL.

YOU TRANSFER IT TO RODEN BRIDGE TO COVER THAT LITTLE PERCENTAGE, WHATEVER WE'RE ALLOWED THE WORK FOR THEM.

SO I SEE THIS ALLOWED TO GIVE ANY FUN, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GOING TO RESTRICT ROAD AND BRIDGE.

WE'LL PAY IT, BUT RODEN BRIDGE WILL BE REIMBURSED OUT OF JAIL.

YES.

THEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TOUCH.

WHAT WE'LL DO IS I'LL ADJUST THE ALLOCATION OF THAT TWO 25, IF YOU WILL, TO THE SAME PERCENTAGES THAT WERE PER REVENUE, BUT OKAY.

AND 25, BUT YOU WILL PLUS UP BY THOSE SAME ALLOCATIONS SETS UP YOUR REVENUE, 25 K BY 25 K ALLOCATED BY THOSE PERCENTAGE PRACTICE.

PLUS A PLUS YOUR 25,000 CLOSER MIKE MOVING IN THE RIGHT GIRL.

I GOT, I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

USE THE THOUGHTS.

WE HAVE TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA PUT THIS FROM GENERAL TO RUN BRIDGE.

BUT THIS LAKE DAM MAINTENANCE DAM.

YES, SIR.

HAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN IT.

WAIT, I DON'T REALLY THINK WE'VE SPENT THE MONEY.

ALL OF THAT IS GOTTEN REIMBURSED.

RIGHT? WHAT'S MY AUDIT.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE WERE GOING TO SEE HER WENT OUT FOR THIS COMING BUDGET.

OKAY.

SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE MAYBE WE NEED TO CHECK WITH RAYLAND AND WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE HAVEN'T TOOK THEIR EXISTING BUDGET.

DO WE? I THINK I'VE GOT IT ZEROED OUT HERE.

IT'S IT'S IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, I THINK I TOOK IT ALL OUT.

THAT ARE NOT WHAT PAGE IS THAT? 31 PAGE 30.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE TRANSFERS.

IT IS THERE.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT'S AN EXTRA A HUNDRED AND THAT'S A HUNDRED X IN REVENUE.

CAUSE IT'D BE ZEROED OUT NOW.

I JUST EARNED MORE THAN MY MONEY, I GUESS.

SO DARN JUDGES WHERE WE'RE RUNNING.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THEY WILL BE GIVEN THE OFFENDERS FADE.

BREAKING THE LAW.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO JUMP TO PAGE 40 PAGE 40 TO THE END, 40 TO 57.

THESE ARE ALL FUNDS THAT THEY WILL ALL GET BALANCED OUT.

SOME OF THESE, WE DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS TODAY.

WE HAVE PRETTY STRONG PLACE ORDERS.

THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE ON PAGE 41.

THERE'S THAT LAKE DAM.

I'VE GOT IT AT ZERO.

SO IF WE DON'T NEED TO FUND THAT, THEN WE PICK UP THAT A HUNDRED IN REVENUE.

THEN WE'RE NOT TRANSFERRING OUT, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH.

AND ALL OF THESE WILL GET, DOES THIS A BIG CHUNK OF THIS AS ADULT PROBATION AND JUVENILE PROBATION IS, IS A BIG

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PART OF THIS, BUT THERE'S AN EXTRA 4,000, RIGHT? ESTIMATED BEGINNING BALANCE WAS WHERE, WHERE IS THAT? WHAT PAGE ON THE LIGHT DAMN MAINTENANCE? UH, WELL IT WAS ONLY FUNDED AT A HUNDRED.

SO THE HUNDREDS, ALL YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP IS THE ESTIMATED BEGINNING BALANCE.

YOU'LL GET WHATEVER'S WILL THAT'LL CLEAR OUT FOR THIS YEAR, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR'S MATH, IT'S A HUNDRED THAT WAS IN THERE.

SO WE'LL TAKE THAT HOME.

IF THAT 104 DOESN'T GET SPENT AND YOU WOULD JUST DROP IT.

YEAH.

THIS WILL END UP IN FUND BALANCE, BUT YOU ENDED UP ON THEIR FINE BALANCE BALANCE CHECK WITH RYAN AND MAKE SURE I'M PRETTY SURE SHE ZEROED IT OUT.

YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE SHE ZEROED IT OUT, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE, ADULT PROBATION, JUVENILE PROBATION, UM, FUNDS.

THESE ARE ALL JUST, THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE AND WE'LL MAKE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS TO IT, BUT THEY'RE OFFSET.

SOME OF THEM ARE OFFSET BY THEIR OWN REVENUES.

THERE IS SOME LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY AND WHICH ONE? KAREN JUVENILE PROBATION.

SO THERE WHAT HERS IS GOING TO BE.

I DID GET A KAREN.

I DID GET AN ALL FOLDED OVER.

I GOT A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN FROM GEORGE.

THINK IT'LL BE COPIED.

YOU HAVE DEBT AS A TOTAL ESTIMATED DEBT LOAD THING.

THAT SHEET THAT HE DOES EVERY YEAR I WANTED TO MAKE, I SENT HIM TO MAKING SURE WE WERE CAPTURING ENOUGH IN TAX.

SO YEAH.

SO IT'S ALL, WE'RE ALL, ALL THE REST OF THIS IS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT.

AND I DID HEAR FROM THEM AND WE WOUND UP SAVING ABOUT $36,000 BY PAYING THOSE TWO INSIDE B AND THE RADIO BOND.

I GOT THAT LAST NIGHT FROM YOU.

ALRIGHT.

WE STILL NEED AN ORDER ON THAT.

RIGHT.

I JUST EMAILED HIM BACK TO ASK HIM WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.

DO THEY WANT TO OVERSTEP IT AND, UM, UH, CHECK WITH, UH, STW OPENGOV, AND THEY ARE GOING TO HONOR THAT CONTRACT.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE 40 THE FIRST YEAR, BUT WE, SO YOU'RE CHECKING TO SEE IF WE NEED AN ORDER FOR THE PAY OF THOSE FUNDS OPERA.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE PAGES.

SO, SO THE ACTIONS THAT SIR TALK ABOUT SOLID WEISS.

OH YES.

YEAH.

THE SOLID WASTE.

UM, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO TRACK DOWN A LOT OF STUFF TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY, TO TRY TO PUT UNDER THE CONTRACT.

WELL, I FINALLY GOT STUFF FROM LEGAL AND TRACKING STUFF DOWN THERE'S WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO TO TRY TO SAVE THE COUNTY SOME MONEY.

SO I GUESS BOTTOM LINE, I'M GOING TO BRING ADJUSTMENT TO THE CONTRACT, TO THE COURT, THE NEXT COURT.

AND WE WENT TO ADD AN EXTRA CLEANUP.

WE GOT PRICING FOR AN EXTRA CLEANUP FOR PRECINCT FOUR, AND THEY WANT TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CAMP CONVENIENCE STATION AND THE TERRELL CONVENIENCE STATION.

AND THEN IT'S CHANGED FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT A CONTRACT EXTENSION, YOU KNOW, TO INVEST THAT MONEY, TO DO IT.

I WANTED IT TO BE BIGGER THAN THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO OUT AND PUT ALL OF OUR DUMPSTERS AND STUFF IN IT, BUT ALL THE FRANCHISE FEES ARE THE FRANCHISE DEALS THAT THE CITIES HAVE.

WE COULDN'T DO THAT.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, WE JUST, THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, OH, AND, UH, ALSO TIRE COLLECTION AT, UH, FOUR TIRE COLLECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, SEMI TRAILERS TO FILL UP THE TIRES AND THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE IMPORTANT NEXT WEEK.

BUT SO THAT'S REALLY UP TO Y'ALL EVERYBODY TO DECIDE NEXT WEEK FOR THE ADDITIONS TO THAT AND GOT THE BASE CONTRACT FIGURED THAT WAS BEEN IN THE BUDGET THEN LOST.

IT WAS 130 PAGES THAT ON THEM WAS 40.

IT WAS ONE 37, FIVE, ONE 37 FIVE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE CONTRACT SET AND IT WAS PRORATED FOR THE BALANCE OF THE YEAR.

THE TRUE CONTRACT PRICE FOR A WHOLE YEAR IS ONE 65, ONE 65.

YES MA'AM BUT THEY DIDN'T GET THE CONTRACT TIL I THINK IT STARTED HALF THE MONTH IN DECEMBER.

THEY PRORATED OUT AND PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.

SO THE IS DISTRICT A HUNDRED, ONE 65 IS WHAT WE NEED TO PUT IN THERE.

RIGHT? THE PERMIT FEES IN PRECINCT, ONE GOING TO JOHNNY PERMIT FEES AT THIS TIME.

UH, I TALKED TO THE CITY LAST YEAR AND, UM, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE THE FEES, BUT THEY'RE GOING OUT FOR BIDS AT THE CITY FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH THE VENDOR THIS SUMMER SOMETIME.

SO I GUESS IT'S REALLY CONTINGENT ON WHAT KIND OF CONTRACT THE CITY GETS.

CAUSE WE'RE GETTING THEIR COST SAVINGS BECAUSE OF THEIR CONTRACT.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT, BUT I KNOW WHEN THE PRECINCT, I WISH ALL OF THEM WERE A LOT OF PRECINCT.

ONE.

I MEAN, IT PAYS FOR ITSELF AND WE PAID FOR OUR EMPLOYEE.

WHAT, BY MARCH, I THINK WE'D ALREADY PAID FOR ALL OF HIS BENEFITS

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AND HIS SALARY FOR THE YEAR BY MARCH.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE GENERATING WE'RE IN THE BLACK, NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE BLACK, BUT WE'RE IN THE BLACK, IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF STUFF.

UM, ONE THING THAT CAME UP THIS LAST CLEANUP, WE DID JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, THEY'RE OURS.

UM, THE FEES THAT THESE GUYS ARE CHARGING THE CUSTOMERS TO COME IN THERE WITH HER STUFF.

UH, THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT GOT UP THERE AND TURNED AROUND AND LEFT WITH HER STUFF AND DUMPED IT ILLEGALLY, DUMPED IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT.

THAT IS A SPECIALTY STUFF.

AND IT'S ALL LAID DOWN IN THE FLOUR THAT PAM DOES A REAL GOOD JOB, GETTING IT ALL OUT, BUT ELECTRONICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THAT STUFF.

AND SO THEY'RE HAVING TO DISPOSE OF IT THAT TOP END TIRES, MAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GIVE AWAY TIRES, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT THEY BE 65 PLUS EMPTY ALL THE TRASH THEY TAKE FOR FREE.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT US TO TRY AND LOOK INTO IS TWO THINGS, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OFF SUBJECT HERE, BUT, UH, THE, UH, UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO, CAUSE MY ILLEGAL DUMPING IS ACTUALLY GOING UP IN PRECINCT THREE, IT'S GOING BAD.

WELL, IT'S BEEN MOSTLY TIRES AND UH, LIKE ASPHALT SHINGLES, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DON'T TAKE.

UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY DO TAKE PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT COSTING TOO MUCH FOR THEM TO TAKE IT UP HERE.

SO THEY'RE JUST PULLING OUT AND PULLING AND DUMPING US.

NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND THIS ALL DEPENDS ON GRANT MONEY.

I MEAN, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, I THINK WE'VE HAD THREE ELECTRONICS RECYCLING EVENTS OUT OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND WE'VE HAD TO TIRE AND IT'S OFF ALL FREE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO EVERYBODY COUNTY CITY AND ALL THAT.

WE'VE, WE'VE HOSTED DOWN THERE, BUT YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THE GRANT MONEY AND IT'S UNGODLY LIKE THE, THE, UH, ELECTRONICS RECYCLING CAN ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I WANT TO SELL, WE LIKE $17,000 FOR LIKE A BOBTAIL TRUCK.

YEAH.

AND WHENEVER IT'S FULL, THAT'S IT.

YEAH.

AND SO IT'S JUST UNREAL.

WHAT THE ELECTRONIC RECYCLING IS COSTING US.

WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO PANTS, BEEN ABLE TO FIND GRANT MONEY TO DO THAT, BUT TO DO IT ON A DAY TO DAY DEAL AND US ABSORB THE COST.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WE COULD AFFORD IT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE HAGGLING RIGHT NOW FOR A GENERAL BUDGET AND THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS A BIG MONEY DEAL.

THIS, THIS SOLID WASTE IS REAL.

AND JUST US ADDING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE TRAILER.

I MEAN, THIS IS ONE TRAILER FOUR TIMES FOR FOUR PRECINCTS, ONE TIME A YEAR TO FILL UP AN 18 WIZARD.

AND WE WERE FILLING UP AN 18 WHEELER DOWN THERE IN LIKE 25 OR 30 MINUTES.

THAT'S HOW MANY TIRES WERE EVER WHERE ALL OVER.

YEAH.

AND, UH, AND OF COURSE I'VE GOT EDUCATED A LOT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT BIOHAZARDS, YOU GOT ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF AND YOU JUST CAN'T JUST GO IN TO LOCK.

HE USED TO, WHEN WE WERE KIDS, EVERYBODY JUST THREW EVERYTHING IN A, IN A DRAW IN THE BACK OF YOUR PASSENGER OR YOU JUST TOOK IT TO THE DUMP AND THEY TOOK IT ALL, BUT THEY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

YEAH.

SO IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME MORE GRANTS, WE CAN OFFER THOSE AROUND, YOU KNOW, BUT IS THERE, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF DRYING UP RIGHT NOW? THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLANT JUDGE, YOU KNOW, OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT COSTS SEEMED LIKE THAT.

UH YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO YEAH, NO CLUE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME.

UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THREE YEARS, BUT NO DOMAIN, YOU SHOULDN'T AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE SOME EFFORT TO PLAN FOR IT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL, NO REGULATIONS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME IN AND JUST STARTING TO RELAX, YOU'RE PROJECTING, YOU KNOW, AS BEST WE CAN A COST INCREASE EVERY YEAR FOR BUDGET PURPOSES.

SURE.

AND THEN, THEN, UM, I KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT WHAT I'M FIXING TO SAY.

SO DON'T THROW NOTHING AT ME, BUT I MEAN, I, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PLACES HAVE LANDFILLS.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T KNOW ANY, ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC DON'T THROW STUFF AT ME OR SHOOT ME OR SOMETHING.

BUT YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DOWN THE ROAD LOOK AT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE TAKING STUFF OVER TO DALLAS MCCOMAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE I MAY NEED.

I DON'T THINK COUNTIES HAVE FIELDS, DO THEY? YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, WE, UH, COMPTON COUNTY PASSED A RESOLUTION AND MANY YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU, I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW YOU CHANGE.

YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE ONE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

OKAY.

WELL THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION RIGHT THERE.

IT'D BE, IT'D BE A PRETTY HARD LIFT ANYWAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE CAN SHIP STUFF DOWN, PUT IT ON A BARGE IN THE

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.

I BET WE BUY 200 PROPERTY ON DALLAS COUNTY.

NO, YOU JUST KNEW LIKE NEW YORK, BUT IT ON MARGIN, LET IT FLOAT AROUND FOR A FEW YEARS, TOMMY, BUT THIS, THIS IS A REAL, I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS UNTIL YOU START GETTING THE BIG THING.

TIRES ARE TERRIBLE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE THE SAME TOP PROBLEMS. UH, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT WE DID IT.

EVERYBODY HAD POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY, WHENEVER THE TRUSTEES OR THE INCARCERATED FOLKS WERE OUT THERE WITH THE DETENTION OFFICERS CLEANING IT, CLEANED IT UP.

BUT THIS COVID STUFF.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST THE TIRES AND THE TRASH ON THE ROAD.

IT'S JUST THE MOWING, OUR FACILITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO JUST TAKE CARE OF STUFF.

JUST BECAUSE WE'VE LOST THAT I WAS NOT FREE LABOR FORCE, BUT WE HAD THIS WITH THIS RESOURCE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE CALFEE.

SO IT'S ALREADY GETTING, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE IT ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD, UH, WE HAD FOOD DUMPED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

YEAH.

SO MUCH.

SO WE HAD TO HAVE A BACKHOE TO PICK IT ALL UP.

YEAH.

SO I MEAN PIGS AND STUFF.

WHAT ABOUT LIKE IN THE TRUCK, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY IDEA.

I ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE, BUT, UM, WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT'S THE COST OR SKEET, YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS, LIKE, UH, WHAT ABOUT LIKE A TIRE GRINDING FACILITY OF MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BEGIN TO INVEST IN SOME, SOME TECHNOLOGY LIKE THAT THAT WOULD SOMEHOW, AND THAT GETS, THAT GETS REALLY EXPENSIVE.

AND THEN YOU GET INTO MORE LEGAL PROBLEMS WHERE WE CAN'T REALLY, WE CAN'T SELL THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE GET, WE DON'T HAVE A OPTION OF, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I LOOKED AT THAT YEARS AGO ABOUT ASPHALT.

I SAID, WELL, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO OPEN UP THE ASPHALT PLANT AND WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, WE CAN MAKE MONEY BACK.

CAN YOU INCORPORATE THAT INTO ROAD PAVING MATERIAL? WE CAN'T LEGALLY DO THAT.

I SAID, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS THAT WAS ABOUT USING L DUCK TIRES OR SHINGLES OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

THERE'S COMPANIES THAT DO THAT.

YEAH.

NO, AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S THE REASON THEY'RE NOT VERY, MA'AM, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT'S CHEAPER TO BALE IT, CUT IT AND BALE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN THEY HAD FIELD BARRY ATTIRE AND THREE MONTHS LATER, YOU LOOK OUT THERE ON THIS NICE, PRETTY PASTURE THAT WE HAD GOING.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'D BE A TIRE STICKING UP.

HE SAID, WHERE DID THAT TIRE COME FROM? THEY ACTUALLY CLIMBED BACK OUT OVER TIME THOUGH.

YOU WOULDN'T THINK SO.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO BE SPLIT AND CUT THEY'RE SPLIT AND CUT.

THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T ROTATE AND COME BACK OUT ON THE GROUND, BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY COME BACK OUT.

YEAH, NO, I'M AWARE OF THAT.

I MEAN, I WATCH IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE THE MULCHING, IT SOUNDS GOOD.

YOU KNOW, MULCHING STUFF AND YOU GO BY DOWN LAWSON ROAD OVER MESQUITE AND THEY'VE GOT ACRES, ACRES AND ACRES OF MULCH.

YEAH.

THAT PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT IN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE THEY SELL IT, YOU KNOW, BUT BUY YOU A 16 FOOT TRAILER LOAD FOR 20 BUCKS.

YEAH.

PILING IN AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

THEY'VE GOT IT EVERYWHERE DOWN THERE.

SO I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE KIND OF BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT TRYING TO DO A GOOD THING, BUT THEN YOU GET STUCK WITH A BUNCH OF STUFF NOW OFF OF FIVE 48, I'VE GOT, YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, WE HAVE MOUNTAINS OF BRUSH UP THERE, OURSELVES THAT WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING.

THEN THE REST OF THAT REALLY QUICK, WE NEED TO QUIT THINKING OVER THERE UNTIL WE SEPARATE IT AND BURN SOME OF IT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP AND WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND WHY DON'T WE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? I BECAME THE BUDGET TIME IS ABOUT, UH, JUST REGULAR TRASH PICKUP IN THE COUNTY.

UH, YOU KNOW, MY PRECINCT, MY RHODE ISLAND VILLAINS, PERFECT EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND THAT MANY HEAVY TRUCKS A WEEK WHEN I'M DOWN THERE ARE DESTROYING THE ROADS.

I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING AGAIN, AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTING OUT OR SOMETHING FOR ONE OR MAYBE TWO COMPANIES TO DO ALL THAT PICKUP.

SO WE DON'T HAVE SO MANY TRUCKS GOING DOWN ON A ROAD AND THAT WOULD SAVE US MONEY ON RUNNING.

DO THEY HAVE THAT AUTHORITY ACTUALLY? AND I'M NOT.

AND I, I KIND OF WONDER IF THAT'S NOT A POTENTIAL WAY THAT WE COULD, NAMELY'S STARTING REALLY SMALL FUND OUR SOLID WASTE DEAL WITH A SMALL FRANCHISE FEE OR I DON'T KNOW, THAT'D BE THE PROPER TERM OR NOT, BUT A SMALL COME IN AND THEY GET X AMOUNT OF FREE DUMPSTERS OR WHATEVER TOOK FOR THE CLEANUPS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

SO THEY CAN MAKE A DEAL WHENEVER YOU'RE MAKING YEAH.

YOUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, JUST COINCIDENTALLY AREA.

THE JUDGE ASKED ME BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO,

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A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND WE'VE DONE A BUNCH OF RESEARCH ON IT.

WE'VE HAD THE, UH, THE CIVIL ADHS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US ON IT.

AND THIS AFTERNOON AT THREE O'CLOCK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION TO, UH, TO BEGIN TO AT LEAST FORMULATE A, A SUGGESTION TO THE COURT ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT VERY TOPIC ON THE, UH, ON THE REGULAR ROAD DAMAGE.

THAT'S THE, YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING TWO PROBLEMS, ROAD DAMAGE PROBLEM, AND PERHAPS A WAY TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO OUR SOLID OR TO OUR SOLID WASTE SOLID WASTE PROBLEM.

CORRECT.

YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START THAT VERY CONVERSATION AT THREE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE OR PEOPLE GARBAGE.

WELL, I MEAN THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT COUNTY, AND THEY'LL TELL YOU THIS STRAIGHT UP, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN READING MOST COUNTIES DON'T EVER, EVER DO IT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO BUILD IT.

CITY USES A WATER BILL, RIGHT? THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD LITERALLY DO IT WOULD BE TO BE MORE ON THE HONOR WITH IT, WITH TRASH HAULING COMPANY AND SAY FOR THE CONTRACT AND THAT YOU GO OUT AND COLLECT IT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US X AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE.

AND THEN THAT'S IT LET THEM BILL THE CUSTOMERS AND YOU HAVE NO FUNCTION AND NO WAY TO BE THEM.

NO, WE CLEARLY WANT TO DO THIS.

AND THEN IN THE CITIES, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TRASH.

OTHERS IN THE COUNTY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRESS CHARGES.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE AND REQUIRE EVERY HOUSEHOLD TO PAY A TRASH MAN, WHETHER THEY HAVE TRASH OR NOT.

IN OTHER WORDS, GOT PEOPLE BURN THEIR TRASH OUT IN THE BACK IN A BARREL, YOU'LL BE ON 20 ACRES AND YOU GO OUT BACK, YOU BURN YOUR TRASH.

WE DON'T HAVE A RULE AGAINST BURLINGTON.

YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS, OR WE'LL GET YOU, RIGHT.

YOU'RE NOT REALLY SUPPOSED TO BURN BRUSH.

I THINK IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION IF JUST THE ROAD PART OF THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS OUT IN THE GRUMBLING DOCUMENTATION.

I HEAR A LOT ABOUT TOO MANY TRASH TRUCKS ON OUR STREET.

YEAH.

I PAINT HOUSES ON MY STREET OR 11, WHATEVER.

IT WAS 11 HOUSES.

AND I'M THE SAME WAY FOR TREY SCOTT.

YEAH.

I TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND USING THE SAME ONE.

I MEAN, I LITERALLY STOPPED IT.

NOT EVERYBODY CAN DO THAT.

WELL, I THINK THE POTENTIAL FOR THE MODEL THAT WE USE FOR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT NOW IS OUT THERE AS WELL.

SO YEAH, THE, AND THE, UH, AND THIS COULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT.

THIS COULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE WASTE HAULERS THAT THE WASTE HAULERS THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY, AND THAT ARE GOOD.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS BECAUSE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO, I MEAN, IT COSTS THEM MONEY TO DRIVE DOWN ALL THESE DIFFERENT ROADS ALSO.

SO IF THEY COULD HAVE A MORE RESTRICTED AREA AND HAVE ALL OF OUR MOST, ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IS THAT ZONE OR YOU DESIGN IT UP, I'D GIVE OUT FOUR CAR DEALERS TO MOM AND POPS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GET THEIR LIVELIHOODS ARE IN JEOPARDY.

IF THE FIND SOME WAY TO, TO FIND SOME WAY TO PROTECT SO THAT AS LONG AS WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND PRECINCT FOUR, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT SOME OF THE MOM AND POP TRASH HAULERS WITHOUT CITING ANY NAMES.

ONCE THERE, IF, IF ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY, THEY'RE THEIR TRAILERS GET OVER FULL THEY'LL JUST DUMP ON THE COUNTY ROAD TO BE ABLE TO FINISH OUT THEIR ROUTES.

SO IT'S CLEARLY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS IN PART OF THAT IS IF YOU EVEN SOME SORT OF A MINIMAL PERMITTING PROCESS IN ORDER TO PICK UP SOLID WAY, SHE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PERMIT.

AND PART OF THAT WOULD BE WHERE ARE YOU TAKING YOUR TRASH? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I'M, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME OF OUR GUYS TELL US THAT THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY LOTS OF ILLEGAL DUMPS IN THE COUNTY PLACES THAT YOU WOULD NEVER SEE THEM.

YEAH.

UH, WE HAVEN'T.

AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT A TRASH HAULER, THAT'S CHARGING YOU TO PICK UP YOUR TRASH AND TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL.

IF HE PICKS UP YOUR TRASH AND TAKES IT SEVEN MILES DOWN THE ROAD AND DUMPS IT INTO HIS LITTLE PRIVATE DONOR, BUT THAT'S PRETTY SERIOUS REVENUE RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO, IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO GO TO MCOS AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO YEAH.

TO FALL IN THE RANGE, I TEND TO WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, BUT WHY IS IT THAT WE ALWAYS END UP START? WE ALWAYS END UP TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE.

Y'ALL EVER NOTICED THAT LAST WEEK.

I THINK WE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH THE PAGES TODAY.

YEAH.

THAT IS JERRY.

IT IS.

I CAN JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.

SO I'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO GENERAL FUND THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY.

SO THE EXTRA POSITION, A FEW OF THE TRANSFERS, UM, JUST KNOW THAT I'M NOT HERE ON FRIDAY, BUT I NEED THAT.

WE NEED TO TRY TO TRUE UP THE ROAD AND BRIDGE BUDGETS BY MONDAY.

SO IF I COULD GET SOME SUPPORT JUST ON WHAT YOU'RE, REPROJECTION YOUR BUDGETS, I'M IN THE OFFICE ALL DAY TOMORROW.

IF I CAN BE OF ANY ASSISTANCE.

AND IF I NEED TO DO A LITTLE WORK OVER THE WEEKEND, I CAN TO, BUT MONDAY I BELIEVE OUR MEETINGS AT ONE, I THINK IT IS.

YEAH.

SO I'D HAVE MONDAY MORNING TO, TO

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GET SOME FINAL, FINAL NUMBERS DONE.

SO THE BUDGET THAT WE REVIEW ON MONDAY MORNING THAT THE PR THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT I'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING FROM TODAY.

I'VE TRUED UP RODEN BRIDGE.

UH, AND THAT WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SNAPSHOT OF OUR PROPOSED BUDGET SO THAT WE, IF WE HAD TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS, WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON TUESDAY THAT WE COULD ALWAYS ADD A, I THINK WE'VE GOT WAY.

WE'VE ALWAYS GOT BUDGET WORKSHOP IN THERE AS WELL.

SO WE'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR ANY FINAL ADJUSTMENTS.

WE HAVE TO SEND THOSE, THOSE LETTERS.

SO THE NOTICES TO ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ON MONDAY, UH, I THINK WE'RE SET ON PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE THERE, BUT WE'LL GET THOSE DRAFTED.

I'LL JUST DO A SPREADSHEET FOR REVIEW TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GOOD ON THE SPREADSHEET.

AND THEN THAT FRIDAY, WE'LL, WE'LL SUBMIT A, A PROPOSED BUDGET OVER TO THE COUNTY CLERK AND GET IT POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLAN.

WELL, YEAH, SO AGAIN, I GUESS I'M IN THE OFFICE ALL DAY TOMORROW.

IF I CAN BABY, IN THE REST OF THE DAY TODAY, IF I CAN BE OF ANY ASSISTANCE, YOU MAKE THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTION TO EVERY MEETING I'VE ALREADY MET WITH THEM ABOUT IT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION, THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER FELLOWSHIP, ADJOURN, AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAUNT.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL THEN I'LL SAY COMMISSIONED CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.

UH, AS OPPOSED TO NO, OR OUT WE'RE OUT OF HERE.