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YOU DON'T TURN

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IT OFF.

[Call to Order]

THIS WORKSHOP, MEETING THE CALL FROM KELLY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED ORDER IT'S MONDAY, JULY 27TH AT ONE O'CLOCK.

WE WERE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX

[1. Ron Sullivan; Discuss Kaufman County Culvert policies]

FIRST AUTOMOTIVE.

OUR AGENDA TODAY IS TO HEAR FROM RON SULLIVAN ABOUT TO DISCUSS KAUFMAN COUNTY CULVERT POLICIES.

YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THAT'S MORE EXCITING THAN ITEM TWO.

ISN'T IT? WELL, COVERS ARE ALWAYS EXCITING, MORE EXCITING THAN BUDGET COMMISSIONERS.

UH, WHAT YOU HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU IS, UH, SOME PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE, UH, COVERT POLICY AS OUTLINED IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION, UM, AT THIS POINT, OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

SO I'LL, UH, I'LL SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF STARTED WITH US IN PRECINCT FOUR, AS WE BEGAN OUR ROAD BOND WORK, UH, EVEN ON OUR VERY FIRST, UH, TARGET ROAD, WE HAVE, UH, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 60 DRIVEWAY CULVERTS THAT WERE EITHER NONEXISTENT OR, UH, MORE PREDOMINANTLY WERE COMPLETELY DYSFUNCTIONAL, CAVED IN, ROTTED OUT FULL.

UH, SO THE, THE NECESSITY TO AS, AS THIS ROAD BOND PACKAGE, UH, GOES FORWARD IS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE A CONSISTENT POLICY ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR, FOR DRIVEWAY CULVERTS.

UM, HAD A LOT OF THE ASSISTANCE FROM, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, LOOKING AT A SURROUNDING COUNTY POLICIES AND THAT KIND OF THING.

UH, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE PRECINCTS, YOU KNOW, SOME PRECINCTS, UH, INSTALL CULVERTS.

UH, NOW SOME OF US DO IT, UH, IF IT'S CONVENIENT.

SO, UH, BASED ON, UH, A SERIES OF MEETINGS WE HAD, WE JUST CAME UP WITH, UM, SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE, UH, TO THE LAND REGULATIONS THAT EXIST ALREADY AS PART OF OUR SUBDIVISION, UM, UH, AND DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES PROCESS.

UM, THIS, THESE CHANGES WERE ALL IN YOUR PACKET.

IF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM, UH, BASICALLY WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH A, UH, A, A CONSISTENT METHOD WHERE WE CAN NOTIFY LANDOWNER THAT HAS COVERED HIS OR HER COVERT IS, UH, UM, IS IMPEDING THE NATURAL WATER FLOW ALONG THE ROADS.

UH, GIVE THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE NOTICE THAT THE CULVER WILL NEED TO BE, THAT THEY'LL NEED TO PURCHASE A CULVER, UH, TRY TO DO OUR PART AND, YOU KNOW, AS A BENEVOLENT COUNTY TO, UH, TO, UH, SPLIT THAT, THAT COST WITH THEM IN THAT THEY PROVIDE THE CULVER, WE PROVIDE THE INSTALLATION AND THE, AND THE, UH, THE REST OF THE ROAD MATERIAL TO, UH, COMPLETE THAT INSTALLATION, AND THEN JUST ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROAD.

AND EVEN, UH, WE'VE EVEN GONE SO FAR AGAIN WITH THE HELP OF OUR ATTORNEYS AS TO DEVELOP A POLICY, UH, WHERE IF WE HAVE, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, THAT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, FOR REASONS OF INDIGENCY OR, UH, SOME OTHER, UM, UH, PRIVATE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY'RE NOT UNABLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A COVERT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO, UH, UM, AT LEAST HAVE A MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS US TO COMPLETE THE ROAD WORK EXPEDITIOUSLY, UH, ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO, UH, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS EITHER THROUGH A PAYMENT PLAN, UH, OR IF NEED BE, UH, AN ACTUAL, UH, DOWN THE ROAD AND LEAN ON THE PROPERTY SO THAT THE COUNTY ULTIMATELY WOULDN'T RECOUP ITS MONEY.

THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND WOULD NOT BE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PURCHASE OF A PRIVATE COVERT.

AND, UH, THE REST OF THE, THE REST OF THE INFORMATION REALLY IS JUST THE NUTS AND BOLTS.

IT PROVIDES FOR THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THE GRADE AND THE SIZE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, UH, IT'S REALLY JUST TO MAKE, UH, MAKE US CONSISTENT ACROSS THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, UH, I THINK THE, UH, BETWEEN THE ENGINEER AND THE ATTORNEYS WE'VE COME UP WITH A PRETTY GOOD SUGGESTION.

UM, AND I WOULD, UH, UH, IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION TOMORROW.

IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, AND, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN ASK YOU TO ACT ON IT FOR, OR CONSIDER ACTING ON IT TOMORROW.

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FLESH THAT OUT FOR US, RON, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, NOT, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, IT DOES PROVIDE A MECHANISM, UH, TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP COSTS IF THE COUNTY GOES, GOES IN AND ACTUALLY DOES AN INSTALLATION OR REPLACES A COVERT, UH, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER KATES EXPRESS THAT RATHER, WELL, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, KAREN, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO IT? NO, NO.

WHAT I ALSO SENT AROUND, UM, WITH THE PACKET WAS THE, IN THE FIRST PACKET THAT WENT AROUND, IT'S A PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION AND LAND USE REGULATIONS, SECTION 11.04.

AND THEN, AND THEN DEBBIE LATER THAT SAME DAY ALSO SENT AROUND THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION REGULATION, 11.04, SO THAT YOU ALL COULD COMPARE AND THE ADDITIONS THAT ARE, AND AGAIN, THE INTENT, UH, IT REALLY JUST CAME TO THE FOREFRONT.

I MEAN, WE'RE ON OUR VERY FIRST ROAD AND WE'RE DEALING WITH 50 PLUS, UH, COVERED ISSUES ON THAT ONE ROAD.

SO AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS BOND, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE VOLUME OF, OF, UH, IMPACT IN YOUR PRECINCTS THAT, BUT, UH, PRECINCT FOUR IS, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T EXPECT ANY OTHER ROAD TO BE LESS IMPACTED IN THE DRIVEWAY CULVERTS SITUATION THAN WHERE WE ARE NOW.

ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO THE ONE STOP SHOP AND EVERYTHING WAS GOING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND I NOTICE YOU CHANGING IT TO THE PRECINCT COMMISSIONER, THE COUNTY ENGINEER, OF COURSE, IT EVENTUALLY COMES THROUGH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES TO OUR SHOP, VIA EMAIL, WITH AN ATTACHMENT, AND THEN WE MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE.

AND THEN WE GO OUT THERE AND TALK TO THEM, TELL THEM WHAT WE NEED, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING.

WE'RE NOT, UH, THE, THE INTENT IS NOT TO CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.

ONE STOP SHOP FOR NEW CULVERTS.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH REPLACING OF EXISTING CULVERTS BECAUSE EXISTING CULVERTS ARE EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH A NEW PERMITTING PROCESS SO THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE OUT ON THE COUNTY ROAD IS THEIR ROAD GETS REDONE.

DON'T HAVE A, THEY REALLY, I MEAN, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO INTERACTION WITH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE COUNTY ENGINEERS EMPLOYED TO, UH, IN PRECINCT FOUR, TO BE THE, THE EXPERT, IF YOU WILL, ON CULVERT SIZE AND LENGTH AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT, UH, THE, THE POLICY STILL FOR NEW PERMITS, UH, MONIQUE, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT AT ALL.

UM, THE ONLY PART IS CONFUSING.

WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THIS INTO LANE.

THIS IS FOR ALL PEOPLE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE FOR REPLACEMENT, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN THERE BECAUSE THE WAY THIS READS, IF I'M CORRECT, IS THAT ALL LOCAL HERBS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD WHEN WE HAD GOT THIS WILL FALL UNDER THIS PROCEDURE.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC IN THAT.

YEAH, NO, I, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

I, I JUST MEANT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, MY INTEREST IN OUR, OUR CIRCUMSTANCE HAS TO DO WITH THE EXISTING CULVERTS.

THE PROCESS FOR NEW CULVERTS REMAINS ON, YOU KNOW, REMAINS UNCHANGED.

IT JUST STILL COMPLY WITH THIS WITH, WITH THESE SPECIFICATIONS, BUT THAT'LL ALL BE DONE THROUGH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES FOR UNDER THE EXISTING NEW COVERT POLICY.

THIS JUST ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO DEAL, UH, BECAUSE FRANKLY, NOBODY, UH, LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, A, UH, A LANDOWNER WHO, WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO GO BUY A COVERT, THE, THE ACTUAL PAYMENT PLAN, UH, AND COLLECTION AND TRACKING OF THAT MONEY IS DONE AT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE LEVEL WITH THE MONEY TRANSMITTED TO THE TREASURER.

BUT, BUT, UH, ALTHOUGH I'M HAPPY TO GIVE THAT TO THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES IF THEY'D LIKE TO DO IT.

UH, I GUESS, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I TEAR UP THE ROAD AND TEAR UP THE DITCH AND TEAR UP A COVERT, I DON'T EVEN ASK THE MAIN THING.

I PUT IT BACK.

WELL, YOU GOT 50 MILES OF ROAD AND I GOT 300.

SO I PROBABLY WON'T DO THAT.

I CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT WELL THAT ON OUR BOND, OUR BOND, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU, THE STATE OF TEXAS DOES IT.

EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

IF THERE'S A MANDATE, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE.

WELL, IF YOU BRING IT UP, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE RESPONSE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR UP THEIR PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE IT.

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IF THEY'VE GOT A BRAND NEW COVERED SITTING THERE AND THEY'VE PUT IT IN OR WHATEVER, AND YOU GAVE HIM PERMISSION TO PUT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

NOW YOU'RE COMING TO TEAR DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING TO TELL HIM TO GO BUY A NEW ONE, READ IT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES FOR THAT.

IT PROVIDES FOR THAT.

IF IT'S AN EXISTING FUNCTIONING CULVERT, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE.

WE DON'T TAKE IT OUT.

THIS IS FOR CULVERTS THAT ARE NONEXISTENT OR NON-FUNCTIONAL, IF THEY'RE NON-EXISTENT, THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BUY ONE.

EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

UNDER THE OLD POLICY, EVEN EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MECHANISM TO GET THAT DONE.

IF THEY REFUSE TO BUY ONE, THE WAY THAT ONE READS.

IF, IF SOMEBODY PUTS IN 116 HOMES, I'VE GOT TO GO SET EVERY ONE OF THEM FOR THEM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I'VE GOT TO SET IN THE 116 AND COHORT.

I'M NOT SETTING 116 COVERT.

I CAN'T AFFORD THAT.

OKAY.

THEN I GUESS WE CAN MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT THAT THE COMMISSIONER AT HIS DISCRETION CAN SET THE COVERT POLICY.

THAT'S WHAT SAYS, NOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

YOU CAN DO THAT NOW.

RIGHT? BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S REALLY NO, THERE'S NO, UH, CLARIFIED AUTHORITY FOR HOW TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS CULVERTS LIKE THIS.

YOU'RE DOWN TO THIS.

IF YOU DON'T BUY A COVERT, THEN I'M GOING TO DIG A DITCH IN FRONT OF YOUR GROUSE.

AND, AND THAT PROVIDES REALLY LIKE NO HUMANITARIAN RELIEF FOR DISABLED PEOPLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT SIMPLY CAN'T, IT'S YOUR DISCRETION.

YOU CAN BUY IT.

IT'S IN YOUR RIGHT AWAY.

YOU CAN BUY IT.

IF YOU WANT TO RESTATE, OR YOU SKEET THAT IN IN 300 MILES OF ROAD, KAUFMAN COUNTY CAN NOT AFFORD TO REPLACE EVERY DRIVEWAY.

COVERT IT'S SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE.

MAYBE IN 50 MILES OF ROAD, YOU CAN, BUT NOT IN 300 MILES.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU 15 YEARS TO DO 300 MILES OF ROAD.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING PRETTY HARD ON IT IN THE NEXT SIX.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HITTING THIS PRETTY HARD FOR THE NEXT SIX.

THAT'S WHAT THIS BOND MONEY IS ABOUT ON THE BOND MONEY.

I'LL BE ABLE TO PHONE A FEW COHORTS, A FEW CULVERTS.

WHY DON'T YOU COME OUT AND SEE WHAT A FEW COVERED LOOKS LIKE? IT LOOKS LIKE 50 ON ONE ON THE VERY FIRST ROAD.

WELL THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, ANYWAY, THIS IS WHAT I PROPOSE.

AND, UH, IF THERE IS A PART ON WHERE IT SAYS, IF THE EXISTING COVERT IS IN GOOD CONDITION, THEN IT WILL BE ABLE TO REMAIN AS IT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT THAT'S GOOD.

SO THAT BASICALLY SAYS, IF WE TAKE YOUR COHORT OUT, WE'LL PUT IT BACK BECAUSE IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

THE ONLY, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS VERY SPELLED OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO THINK THAT IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD, JUST BY READING THIS IN MY INTERPRETATION, IS THAT ANY COVERT THAT GOES IN THAT THE COMMISSIONER WILL SET THE COVERT AND BACKFILL ON ANY NEW, THAT WAS OUR PROPOSAL.

BUT, UM, UM, WHEN THE BOND, OR LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, IF IT'S NOT ONE OF YOUR BOND ROADS, ARE YOU STILL, YOU STILL WANT TO DO THAT? SEE WHAT THEY WOULD BE ANY DEVELOP ANY NEW HOME IN THE COUNTY, IN YOUR PRECINCT, UNLESS IT WAS, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE LANGUAGE.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENT FOR THEM.

YEAH.

I'M READING THIS AND I'M LIKE, WAIT, DO I MEAN, SO ONE ADJUSTMENT THAT CAN BE MADE ON A THREE WHERE THIS IS ADDRESSED IS YOU CAN CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FROM WHAT IT'S PROPOSED TO BE, TO SAY, KAUFMAN COUNTY AND ITS OWN DISCRETION MAY PROVIDE THE INSTALLATION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

UM, AS OPPOSED TO WE'LL PROVIDE, WE CAN, WE CAN CHANGE THAT.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT? PERFECT.

YEAH.

CAUSE IT SAYS THAT THEY'LL, THEY WILL, UM, NOT ONLY THE CULVERT, BUT THE BACKFILL AND BASE MATERIAL.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT'S NOT ONE OF THE BOND ROADS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON AND IT'S JUST SOME GUY THAT BUYS A PIECE OF LAND, HE'S GOING TO WANT YOU TO PUT HIS COHORT IN AND PUT THE MATERIAL.

YEAH.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC.

OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO BE INCURRING ALL THE COSTS 116 OF THEM.

THEN I HAVE TO BE DOING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THAT'S I'M RIGHT NOW.

THEY'VE GOT IT.

THEY KNOW JOYCE WAY.

YOU HAVE IT WRONG.

IT'S NO CHOICE THERE.

SO WE'RE MOVING TO, TO FIX YOUR CONCERN.

WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

SO THAT WAS MY, WHEN I WAS READING THAT IT WAS VERY, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE MIGHT WANT TO CLARIFY THAT SECTION, BUT IT'S THE WAY IT IS NOW.

IT'S MY CHOICE.

NOW I CAN DO IT.

IT'S IN MY ASTHMA.

I CAN SET THE CAR IF I WANT TO.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

YOU CAN SET IT, BUT THEY NEED THE PURCHASE OF MARY.

YOU'RE GETTING A DEVELOPER IN AND DEVELOP THAT HOME.

DON'T SAY THAT ANYWHERE IN, IN THE EXISTING RIGS THAT THEY NEED TO PURCHASE THEM.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

THAT THEY NEED TO PURCHASE THE COHORT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT

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IN THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS MAKES.

THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THE PENCIL CLARIFY THAT THEY WILL PURCHASE THEM UNLESS NOT TEAR ONE UP.

AND THEN I PURCHASE IT.

IF I HAVE THERE, THAT'S NOT IN THERE.

OKAY.

IF WE DISCUSSED THIS SUFFICIENTLY, DO Y'ALL WANT TO MOVE ON, MOVE ON.

OKAY.

UH, ALRIGHT.

[2. To discuss the Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Budget]

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 20, 21 BUDGET.

AND I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO JUST KIND OF SET THE PACE HERE, AND THEN I'LL EVEN, I'LL ASK JERRY IF HE'LL DO HIS PAGE BY PAGE THING, UH, THE FIRST THING IS, UH, JUST ALERTING YOU IS THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A COMPLETED, I GUESS IT'S FAIR TO SAY, KAREN, WE DON'T HAVE A COMPLETED BUDGET FOR JUVENILE PROBATION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO BE DOING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN IT'S A LARGER QUESTION? PROBABLY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, AN OPEN ISSUE FOR US STILL.

UM, THE NEXT THING IS THAT, UH, TOMORROW WE ARE, WE HAVE TOMORROW MORNING, WE HAVE TO SEND OUT LETTERS TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, TELLING THEM WHAT THEIR WAGES WILL BE.

UM, WE NEED TO BE THINKING TODAY ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SET ASIDE IN A RESERVE FUND BALANCE.

UH, I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE, WE SET ASIDE, YOU KNOW, KAREN LOVES US WHEN WE CREATE NEW LINES, BUT I SUGGEST THAT WE, WE HAVE ONE RESERVE FUND BALANCE THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO WAGE INCREASES AND ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER, UH, CONTINGENCY THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR GENERAL CONTINGENCY.

AND YOU GUYS NEED TO BE, WE ALL NEED TO BE THINKING LAST YEAR, IT WAS 250,000.

IS THAT RIGHT? IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET? UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 120,000 IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

AND WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE WITH JUVENILE PROBATION AND MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THAT NUMBER IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO, THAT'S GOING TO GO DOWN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THE CONTINGENCY.

UM, ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL SINCE WE HAVE BEEN VERY, UH, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH THEIR BUDGETS THIS YEAR.

WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, UH, BEEN PRETTY FRUGAL AND SAVED A LOT OF MONEY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT ASK THEM TO DO IS SCRIPT THROUGH THIS BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN HERE, A PURCHASE OR, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT PURCHASE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH WOULD RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURE THAT WE'RE SEEING ON OUR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

YES MA'AM YES.

MA'AM.

SO THAT'S GOING TO EXCLUDE, I MEAN, THERE'LL BE SOME THINGS YOU JUST CAN'T GET IN TIME, BUT, UM, IF, IF EVERYBODY THINKS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, I WOULD SEND A LETTER OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ASKING HIM IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THIS BUDGET THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD AND GET IN AND GET ACCESS TO THIS YEAR, THAT WOULD TAKE SOME PRESSURE OFF OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE DID THAT LAST YEAR.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WITH THE, WE HAD THE GUY ONLY THING I WOULD REMIND THE COURT IS WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PRINT A PROPOSED BUDGET FRIDAY BY THE 30TH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TODAY SO THAT WE CAN MEET TOMORROW AFTER COURT AND GET A THUMBS UP ON A PROPOSED BUDGET BECAUSE WE WON'T MEET AGAIN BETWEEN NOW AND 30TH, UM, BUDGET.

THAT'S TRUE.

I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL.

RIGHT.

THAT'S TRUE.

NEVERMIND.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL TO PRINT.

RIGHT.

SO, AND THIS WON'T BE THE LAST WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE REVISION.

I'M SURE.

BEFORE THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE, IS IT CAUSE TOMORROW'S SOLID WASTE IS ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW.

AND ONCE WE DECIDE MOST OF SALES HAVE WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO SET THE SOLID WASTE BUDGET.

THAT WILL BE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.

I THINK WHAT'S IN.

YEAH, WE'LL HAVE SOME, YEAH, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME CHANGES.

SO, UH, AND THEN THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AS JERRY FLIPS THROUGH HERE IS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UH, AN, A YELLOW COMMENT SECTION IS GOING TO SAY PER SALARY WORKBOOK.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES, MAYBE ERROR CORRECTIONS, AND THAT SORT OF THING IN THAT BIG SALARY SPREADSHEET.

I THINK THAT BRANDY WAS THE ONE WHO ENTERED THAT STUFF.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE SOME CHANGES THROUGH HERE AND IT SAYS PER SALARY WORKBOOK, THAT'S, THOSE ARE JUST A GENERALLY CORRECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INPUT OVER IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

UM, SO I WOULD KICK US OFF, BUT DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS WAGE INCREASES,

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UH, NOW? OR DO WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE GO RUN THROUGH THE, WHAT DO YOU THINK JERRY? IT WOULD BE EASIEST TO, CAN WE, CAN WE JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT? SURE KNOW, BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE LINEUP DEAL, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT AND SEE IF MY NUMBERS ARE RIGHT.

IF IN MY MEMORY IS KIND OF LACKING NOWADAYS, BUT IT WAS LIKE WE FIGURED TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE COULD SET ASIDE.

I MEAN, THAT WE COULD HAVE, AND THEN THERE'S A MILLION AND A HALF WE TALKED ABOUT AND THEN A MILLION GOING TO FUND BALANCE.

THOSE NUMBERS DON'T THAT LAST TIME THAT WAS LEFTOVER FROM THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OR WHATEVER YES.

NUMBERS GO TO CHANGE IF HE TELLS THEM WHAT THEY NEED, MAN.

YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT THIS, THIS, BUT THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION.

WE HAD TWO A HALF AND I THINK JERRY SAID, WELL, WE COULD PUT LIKE A MILLION BACK IN FUND BALANCE, ENDED UP MILLION AND A HALF SET ASIDE IN A SPECIAL FUND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE HAPPEN FOR RAISES RIGHT.

RAISES AND CONTINGENCY TEAM.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO SEND OUT SOME JUST FOR GENERAL CONTAINERS.

SO I KNOW THERE BEEN A LOT OF, WE'RE DOING THE SALARY SURVEY AND I WANT TO USE THE SALARY SURVEY, BUT MAYBE INSTEAD OF CREATING THE FUND AND DO MEATIER STUFF AND LEAVING PEOPLE OUT, MAYBE WE ALL JUST TAKE THAT EXTRA MONEY, FIGURE OUT A PERCENTAGE ACROSS THE BOARD WAGE FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR SALARY SURVEY, MIDYEAR OR WHATEVER.

AND WE HAVE SIX MONTHS TO PLAN AND BUDGET FOR ADJUSTMENTS AND HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS IT AND JUST GIVE ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE NOW INSTEAD OF PUTTING PEOPLE OFF AND CAUSE WE'VE GOT TO, WE'VE GOT TO PUBLISH ELECTED OFFICIAL STUFF NOW, AND WE CAN GIVE A LITTLE RAISE TO THE EMPLOYEES NOW, BUT JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST DO ACROSS THE BOARD AND COST OF LIVING INCREASE.

I'M CONCERNED, I'M CONCERNED.

WE WON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO EXECUTE THE WAGE STUDY IF WE DO THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY, WE'RE NOT THIS YEAR, NOT THIS YEAR, NO I'M TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR.

CAUSE WE'RE TAKING WE'RE FUNDING.

THEY HAVE MONEY TO EXECUTE IT NEXT YEAR.

WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY THEM NEXT YEAR.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT WOULD THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKING A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FROM THIS CURRENT BUDGET AND USING IT TO FILL A GAP IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT MAN.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BUT UM, I THINK WHAT HE SAID IS, WELL, WE AMEND SALARIES.

IT'S ONGOING EXPENSE, RIGHT? IT'S A SALARY, RIGHT? SO WHETHER WE DO IT THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IS STILL AN ONGOING EXPENSE, BUT I'M I'M, I THINK WE SH I MEAN, MY, MY OPINION IS WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, I LOVE THE IDEA ABOUT WAITING UNTIL WE GET THE WAGE AND SALARY STUDY BACK.

SO WE, SO WE CAN IDENTIFY POSITIONS, UH, ELECTED AND OTHERWISE THAT ARE UNDERFUNDED.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CHANGE THE ELECTEDS IN JANUARY, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD KNOW WHERE WE STAND FOR THAT.

SO I LIKED OUR ORIGINAL PLAN, BUT THAT'S MINE, THAT'S MY INPUT.

SO, UH, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER HUNT, MAYBE I'M WRONG WITH.

WHAT I I'M HEARING IS THAT IF WE DID THIS ACROSS THE BOARDS, UH, SET ASIDE FOR, UM, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, A CPI TYPE RAISE AT SOME PERCENTAGE, THEN THAT WOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL JANUARY REGARDING, RIGHT.

WELL, I MEAN, I, YEAH, WE'VE GOT TO, CAN WE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT ANNOUNCING IT, BUT IMPLEMENTING IT.

IT COULD BE DELAYED UNTIL JANUARY.

UH, AND THEN AS THE WAGE.

SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT THE WAGE AND, AND, UH, CLASSIFICATION STUDY CAME IN IN FEBRUARY, WE WOULD ALREADY BE IN THE 20, 21 BUDGET HERE SAYING THAT, THAT THE IMPACT OF THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY WE WOULD ADDRESS IN THE 2022 BUDGET.

YES.

I MEAN, WE JUST GO AND GIVE ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE FOR THIS YEAR.

RIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.

AND THEN WE JUST DEAL WITH THE SALARY SURVEY AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, MONEY THERE TO DEAL WITH THE SALARY, THE WAGES.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT WAGE AND YOU SHOULD KNOW MICHELLE AND I, I'M NOT THE BRIGHTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD, BUT LIKE, IF WE CAN'T AFFORD IT THIS YEAR AND IT'S AN ONGOING EXPENSE, HOW ARE WE GONNA AFFORD IT NEXT YEAR? WELL, THE PROBLEM WAS WE'RE FUNDING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WITH THAT PROPOSAL, BE FUNDING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WITH THIS YEAR IS THE MONEY.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE, WE SHOULDN'T BE AWARE OF THAT.

AND WHEN WE GIVE COST INCREASES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR WITH THIS YEAR'S MONEY IS STILL GOING TO COST US NEXT YEAR, IMPACT WILL BE LESS.

SO THAT'S YOUR MONEY

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IDEA TO USE FUND BALANCE TO GIVE ANYBODY YOUR RIGHTS? YEAH.

SORRY.

YEAH, NO MATTER WHICH WAY WE DO, NO MATTER WHICH WAY WE DO IT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A SHIP, RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID THE OTHER DAY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CALL US A SHEET OF PRINT IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT OKAY.

OKAY.

JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE SITTING AT TOTAL WAGES AND BENEFITS OF 35 MILLION, ONE 97.

IF WE GO 1%, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 35, MEANING FIVE 77, ABOUT $480,000.

YOU'VE GOT ONE AND A HALF PERCENT.

YOU'RE GOING TO 35, SEVEN 26, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 600,000 DIFFERENCE.

IF YOU GO 2% 35 NINE.

YEAH.

THERE'LL BE FIVE EIGHT, SORRY.

ALMOST 35 MINUTES.

SO THAT'S ABOUT $800,000 DIFFERENCE.

DOES THAT INCLUDE WHAT OUR SALARY IS? OUR TOTAL SALARY, NOT THIS 45 MILLION.

JUST GENERAL PHONE.

I'M GIVING YOU GENERAL FUND.

SORRY.

DOES THAT NUMBER INCLUDE THE BENEFITS AND ALL THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE SO SECURITY SORTA CHANGE RETIREMENT.

YEAH.

AND I, AND, AND I THINK ONE THING FOR SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS EXEMPT AND ROAD AND BRIDGE FROM FOR MANY KINDS OF, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

WITH, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, WHICH WILL BE ABSORBED IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE BUDGETS, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS.

BUT, UH, BUT, UH, AND BRIDGE, CROSS IT CROSS THE BOARD RAZORS ARE ROAD AND BRIDGES EXEMPT IN THIS, IN THIS DISCUSSION YOU GOT THAT FIGURED IN WHEN YOUR NUMBERS THERE WE DO.

WHEN YOU WERE JUST DOING THAT AS GENERAL FUND ONLY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT WAS JUST GENERAL FUN.

DID YOU DO HER AND GREG AND THE GYM, THE GENERAL FUND PAYS ALL THE ELECTEDS EXCEPT FOR US.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

YEAH.

NO ROAD AND BRIDGE RAZORS TRACES.

UM, THEIR FUNDS WOULD RUN US ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THOUSAND TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER FUNDS, LIKE THE LIBRARY INDIGENT, UM, JUVENILE.

OKAY.

AND YOU WIND UP HAVING, UM, IT'S RIGHT AT 45 MILLION.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS FORMULA, BUT IT'S NOT CALCULATING THE TOTAL.

SO LIKE A 1% RAISE WOULD BE MUSCLE MANTLE FORM 50 K 2%.

2% WOULD BE 900,000 MORE OR LESS.

PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS.

YEAH.

CAN YOU TAKE THE 45 MILLION AND MULTIPLY THAT BY 2%, RIGHT? YEP.

WELL, WHILE YOU'RE WHAT THE NUMBERS IS QUOTING ARE FULL YEAR.

IF YOU PRORATED IT TO JANUARY, YOU'D PICK UP ONE THIRD.

RIGHT.

SO YOU'D HAVE ABOUT A ONE THIRD SAVING IN THAT NUMBER.

SO IF WE, OR FROM THE PHRASAL DISTRICT GOING THE NEW GUY.

YEAH.

YES.

WE GOT THEM.

THEY GOT THEM THIS MORNING, GOT THEM THIS MORNING.

SO THEY CAME THROUGH THIS MORNING.

DOESN'T CHANGE THE REVENUE SIDE OF IT BECAUSE WE WERE LOCKED IN AT A, AT A REVENUE GROWTH YEAR, OVER YEAR.

SO IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE REVENUE.

IT CHANGES THE TAX RATE, HOW MUCH 200,000 OR 200 MILLION IN VALUE, A MILLION.

SO TAX RATE WENT DOWN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF CENTS FROM WHAT I HAD SHOWED YOU LAST TIME.

SO, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, JUST LET ME, LET ME, I GUESS WE NEED TO, WE'RE NOT TAKE AN ACTION, BUT WE NEEDED SOME DIRECTION.

I WOULD GO, GO UP AND DOWN THE LINE.

I GUESS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING WAS POOLING MONEY AND IN A RESTRICTED CONTINGENCY FUND FOR RAISES, THAT WOULD BE GUIDED BY THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.

AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD AIM FOR MAKING THOSE RAISES EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST.

THAT'S THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.

WHAT IS PROPOSED THAT LEAVES OUT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GENERAL FUND? IT DOES.

YEAH.

WE COULD HANDLE THAT AS A SEPARATE MATTER IF WE WANTED TO, BUT, BUT WHATEVER WE DO WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAS TO BE DONE TODAY.

UM, SO, SO WHAT COMMISSIONER HUNT IS PROPOSING IS THAT WE JUST GIVE A ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE, UH, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, IF WE JUST HAD, I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S BETTER JUST TO EFFECTIVE ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE WHETHER WE DO IN JANUARY,

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OCTOBER, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND THEN, UH, AND THEN WE TAKE THE SALARY SURVEY AND REALLY SIT DOWN AND PLAN, WELL, NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO MAKE YOU WORK.

YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP, I'M COMMITTED ON THE ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE SALARY SURVEY, BUT I DON'T, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IF WE JUST GO AHEAD AND BECAUSE IT LINKS INTO THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS DIDN'T GET RAISES LAST WELL, WE DIDN'T EITHER, BUT WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT FUND.

WE'RE IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, NOT THE GENERAL.

SO, BUT YOU KNOW, NOBODY GOT RISES LAST YEAR.

AND IF WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING, AND INCLUDING THE MEN NOW THAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD JUST TRY TO, INCLUDING WHO IN ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE GENERAL FUND, YOU WAKE UP, WAKE UP, BOOM, BAM, LIKE FACIAL.

RIGHT.

AND IT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD, BUT, BUT I GUESS WE COULD MAKE THEM ACTIVE JANUARY ALONG WITH THE REST OF IT.

CAN YOU, I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

UH, I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S KNOWING WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO, I GUESS, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, ARE YOU GOING AROUND THE HORN OR WE DISCUSSED, LET'S GO AROUND THE HORN.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? WELL, I KIND LIKED THE DANNY WAY.

CAUSE IF, IF, IF WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS ON, IF WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WAY OFF BASE THAT MAY WE CAN CORRECT THEM IN JANUARY, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT 20, 22 IS GOING TO BRING.

WE DON'T KNOW WE'LL HAVE ANY MONEY TO REALLY EVEN ADJUST ANYTHING, BUT MAYBE WE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO FALL FURTHER BEHIND IF YOU PUT IT OFF THE TABLE FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

YOU'RE ONE YEAR FURTHER BACK, I GUESS THAT'S THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME.

AND I GUESS, LIKE I SAID, I THINK, I THINK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETIMES YOUR, YOUR SALARIES IN THIS YEAR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE, IT'S ALWAYS A RUSH TO GET IT THERE.

UH, THE JANUARY THING SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROPOSITION JUST TO GO TO JANUARY TWO, TO KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY IS, THE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE.

EXACTLY.

SO IT WAS KIND OF SQUEEZED THE MOST BUCKS OUT FOR THE RACE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING THE THIRD YEAR, YOU GOT A THIRD MORE TO WORK WITH THEM.

YOU GOT A THIRD MORE MONEY TO WORK WITH, UM, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

AND ONCE IT GETS INTO THE SYSTEM, THEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING FROM JANUARY TO JANUARY AND THEY'RE NOT GOING FROM, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I KNOW IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING.

EXACTLY.

BUT IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M WITH THAT TERRY, HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IS THERE? IF WE WAIT UNTIL JANUARY, HE SAID, DO IT IN OCTOBER 25%.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I LIKE THAT.

I DO THAT MYSELF TOO.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND I THINK IT JUST WORKS BETTER.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THE YEAR AFTER YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH UP WITH IT, IN OTHER WORDS, IT WON'T BE THAT THIRD AGAIN, WHETHER THE WORD OR QUARTER, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, THE NEXT YEAR IT'D BE A FULL JANUARY IN JANUARY RAISE IN A SENSE FOR THE EMPLOYEE.

MOST PEOPLE DO THAT.

ANYWAY.

MOST PEOPLE GO FROM DAY TO DAY.

WHAT DO YOU SAY? SO COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE COMMANDED TO THEM A WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE FINANCIALLY ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.

AT SOME POINT WHEN THE THING COMES IN, UH, I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THE, IF, UH, A SMALL ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE WOULD PUT US BEYOND, UH, TYPICALLY BEYOND WHAT THE WAGE AND, AND, UH, THE WAGE STUDY WOULD SHOW.

SO, UH, THAT THE PROJECTION NATIONALLY FOR CPI TYPE RAISES THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX RAISES RANGE BETWEEN 1.8 AND 2.3% FOR NEXT YEAR FOR 2021.

SO, UM, IF WE, IF WE ARE STILL RELATIVELY, UH, CORRECT THAT IN THIS YEAR'S UNEXPENDED BALANCES, WE WOULD BE AT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION.

IF WE SET ASIDE IN A SPECIAL FUND BALANCE OF MILLION TO ROLL INTO OUR, OUR, UH, TRADITIONAL FUND BALANCE AND PLAYED WITH 1,000,005, THAT WOULDN'T BE LEFT, MAYBE EVEN, MAYBE EVEN NARROW THAT TO A MILLION, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE GRANT ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE EXCEPTION ROAD AND BRIDGE RODEN BRIDGE, BEING EXEMPTED, INCLUDING US AT 2% CPI TYPE RAISE

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FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE.

SO WE'LL STILL SAVE THAT 25%.

AND THEN, UH, THAT WOULD, THAT SHOULD PUT YOU AT ABOUT, UH, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE EXPANDED ABOUT HALF A MILLION.

IS THAT RIGHT? PROBABLY FOR 400,900 TIMES 0.7, FIVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS IN MY THREE FOURTHS OF THAT.

SO THREE, FOUR, SO IT'S 620, SO LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION, 600,000, WHICH WOULD STILL LEAVE YOU.

AND IF, IF WE, WHICH WOULD STILL LEAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE OR 400,000 OF THE, OF THE RESIDUAL MILLION, WHAT PERCENT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 2%, 10%, 2%, 2%.

ANYWAY, THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YEAH.

IF YOU NEED IT, THEN I DON'T WANT TO BE 600,000 ELECTED OFFICIALS, EVERYBODY ACCEPTING ROAD AND BRIDGE 2% TO BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE.

AND THEN YOU PUT AN OFF, UP A QUARTER OF IT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT MONEY, YOU CAN MOVE THAT SO THAT MONEY AND WHATEVER ELSE WAS LEFT OF THE MILLION FIVE WOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE.

THEN AFTER JANUARY, WHEN THE WAGE AND SCALE STUDY CAME IN, MIKE, THAT'S IT EXACTLY.

NOW, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHEN I ASKED, WHEN WE PUBLISHED THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR THE 2%, CAN WE SAY ANYTHING? IT DOESN'T GO INTO JAIL.

WHAT WE WOULD DO, HERE'S HOW YOU WOULD DO THE MATH.

AND SO I WOULD CALCULATE WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS TO GET A RAISE IN JANUARY.

AND I WOULD PUBLISH THAT AS THEIR INCREASE, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THE RATE ALL YOU DO THAT'S RIGHT.

ALL THAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S HOW MUCH MORE MONEY THEY'RE GETTING, THE AMOUNT, HOW MUCH MORE INCOME THEY RECEIVE THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR, NOT BY A MONTH OR ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST, JUST A DOLLAR AMOUNT, NOT JUST A DOLLAR EFFECTIVELY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD THEM IS NOT ALL WE GIVE THEM PRO WRITE IT OUT OR WHATEVER.

I'D HAVE TO SHOW IT TO HIM AND HIS SHEEP.

CAUSE I HAVE TO SHOW THEM WHAT THEIR WAGES ARE.

SO I WOULD SHOW IT, I WOULD JUST SHOW THEIR TOTAL INCREASE IN DOLLARS, LOOK AT WHETHER IT STARTS CHECK ONE OR CHECK 26, IF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT DOESN'T CHANGE.

AND THAT'S ALL THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE UNDER IS JUST TO SHOW THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE YEAR.

AND I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT WHEN THE WAGE AND SCALE STUDY COMES IN, UH, I MEAN THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY COMES IN THAT THAT 2% IS STILL GOING TO BE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THERE'S OR THE MAJORITY OF THEM.

YEAH.

FOR THE MAJORITY.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDS OKAY TO ME.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE ARE THAT'S THAT'S THE DRIFT WE WERE ON, RIGHT.

WAY.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN AN, ACROSS THE BOARD 2% EFFECT JANUARY AND THE CALCULATIONS WERE CALCULATIONS FOR YOU WOULD BE STARTING THE FIRST PACE PERSON, THE PAY PERIOD, PERIOD, JANUARY PAY PERIOD.

THE FIRST PAY PERIOD IN JANUARY.

I DO HAVE, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR CLARITY.

THERE'S ONE MORE THING BEFORE YOU DO THAT.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE ACCEPTED RODEN BRIDGE, THERE ARE TWO ACCEPTED, ACCEPTED RODEN BRIDGE.

FROM THAT 2%, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED OUT OF YOUR OFFICE.

ONE IS I'M ALSO PROPOSING THAT THE, THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S CAR ALLOWANCE BE INCREASED BY 2000 A YEAR.

SO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE CAUSE THAT, THAT ENDS UP BEING, UH, THAT WILL SHOW ON YOUR LETTER SHOWS IN YOUR LETTER, RIGHT? SO THAT'S A LONG, THAT'S AN OVERDUE NEED, UH, TO FUND THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE SPENT ON THE ROAD.

AND THE SECOND, UH, THE ONLY OTHER SALARY ADJUSTMENT IS GOING TO BE, WHAT DID WE SAY? THREE YES.

$3,000 BECAUSE WE ARE, WE HAVE DEVELOPED AND ARE GONNA, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AND SEND TO, UH, PERSONNEL.

I RECLASSIFICATION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT POSITION TO A PRECINCT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

AND THAT WILL INCREASE THEIR SALARY, THAT ONE POSITION.

SO FOUR PEOPLE ABOUT $3,000.

OKAY.

SO, SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT THESE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY CHANGED.

SO WE'VE HAD A FEW DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE RECLASSIFIED A COUPLE OF FOLKS.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PROMOTIONS, UH, IN SOME, IN SOME DEPARTMENTS WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ALSO GET A RAISE IN JANUARY.

HOW WOULD YOU SAY NO? YES.

I WOULD SAY ANYONE, ANYONE THAT'S BEEN AFFECTED WITH AN OCTOBER ONE INCREASE WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE IN JANUARY.

SO WE'D EXCLUDE THEM FROM THAT ERA

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AND THE COURT REPORTERS AND THE COURT REPORTERS.

SO BRANDON, YOU CAPTURING ALL THAT.

YOU GOT A RAISE TO GET ONE.

NOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ONE IN JANUARY.

I WOULDN'T GET THE ADDITIONAL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT CLEARS IT FOR ME.

OKAY.

SO 2% YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE TITLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO ADMINISTER PRECINCT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

OKAY.

I CAN NOT JUST MAKE BEFORE YOU USE THE TERM OFFICER.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO THAT TITLE.

I WOULD, YEAH.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GET HR TO KIND OF WEIGH IN ON THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT TOO SURE THAT THAT'S A, THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME NUANCED, MEANING IF YOU SAY, MAKE SOMEBODY AN OFFICER.

OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO THAT TITLE.

WE'RE JUST USING IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION.

JUST BRANDY ON THAT SHEET.

IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD OPEN UP THE SALE TO SHOW THE PROPOSED INCREASE COLUMN, UNLESS YOU USE THAT, IT'D BE SO MUCH EASIER FOR US TO TRACK IT.

I THINK IF WE JUST PUT IT ALL IN THAT ONE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY THERE YOU, OH, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

OKAY.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND, UH, I GUESS I'M GOING TO HIS ROOM WITH EVERYBODY.

I'LL PUNT THIS OVER TO JERRY AND LET HIM, I DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE A LONG TIME OR NOT A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT, UH, I'VE ALREADY POINTED OUT THAT ONE CHANGE THAT WE'RE JUST WORKSHEET CHANGES AND THAT'S MOST OF THESE IS THAT GOOD.

EVERYBODY READY? ALRIGHT.

I WOULD START LASHES ON.

HM.

I WANTED TO START BY SAYING THAT I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU DON'T FIND THIS EXCITING AS A SO, BUT, UH, YEAH.

THAT'S OKAY.

SO LAUGH IS FULL OF DISAPPOINTMENTS.

IT IS.

SO I'LL JUST START AT THE TOP PAGE WARREN, YOU SEE A SMALL ADJUSTMENT TO REVENUE.

I'M JUST WORKING WITH DECIMAL POINTS ON APPRAISED VALUE.

SO IT'S, IT'S INSIGNIFICANT, UM, PAGE, PAGE FIVE, UH WE'RE WE'RE WE TALKED LAST WEEK ABOUT THE DISTRICT CLERK DISTRICT COURTS HAD GIVEN THE COURT REPORTERS AND INCREASE AND ALL FOUR DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS WERE TO BE AT THE SAME WAGE.

SO THAT'S THE IMPACT.

SO MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT COURT REPORTERS COURT REPRICE, YES.

6,000 IS THE TOTAL IMPACT ON THAT ONE PARTICULAR PERSON? YEAH.

YES.

SO THE NEXT ONE COUNTY CLERK, AS YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, THERE'S A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE.

THERE'S NOT A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE REQUEST IS TO PUT $900.

IT'S NOT IN THIS MATH.

THE REQUEST IS TO ADD $900 TO THE COUNTY CLERK FOR A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE.

SO SHE JUMPS UP THUMBS DOWN.

UH, I WOULD SAY IF, I MEAN, THAT'S A STANDARD THING IN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS NOW.

UH, SAME THING WITH THAT, WITH THAT COURT REPORTER, UH, WHERE IT SAYS PER SALARY WORKBOOK, THAT'S JUST KIND OF A BACK AND FORTH ON THIS WORK, BUT THESE ARE JUST ADJUSTMENTS THAT BIG MADE IN TOTAL DOLLARS.

ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT, UM, NOTHING ALARMING PAGE, UH, PAGE EIGHT.

UM, WE GOT OUR REQUESTS BACK FROM ALL FROM WHAT MOST OF OUR CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME CHOP STAR TRANSIT IS DOWN.

UM, BUT MELINDA POLK WHO RUNS, UM, SENIOR, SENIOR CONNECT IS REQUESTING 8,000 MORE DOLLARS.

I'VE GOT IT BAKED INTO THE NUMBER.

UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS, A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE ELDERLY CARE STUFF.

AND, UH, UH, SOME OF THAT FUNDING IS SORT OF DRYING UP AND I KNOW THEY'VE GOT WAITING LISTS FOR MEALS ON WHEELS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR.

HONESTLY, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ARE JUST KIND OF OPEN SWITCHES.

SO YOU'LL SEE OUT THERE, IF I'VE GOT SOMEBODY REQUESTED SOMETHING, THAT'S JUST AN OPEN SWITCH THAT WE'LL DEAL WITH IN JANUARY.

PART OF THAT SURVEY, I'M GOING PRETTY QUICK.

PHAGE.

I'M ALREADY AT PAGE 15.

OH, PAGE, PAGE, PAGE 16, KAREN VITAMIN A KAREN SAYS YOU'RE MOVING TOO FAST.

WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ALRIGHT? WHAT'D YOU? IT JUST SAYS PER SALARY WORKBOOK THAT WEEK.

THAT'S ALL BECAUSE THAT'S ALL FROM THAT WORKBOOK.

SO THERE'S NO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PAGE 16, WE MOVED, WE'RE MOVING THAT DEPARTMENT LIKE KAREN HAD TALKED ABOUT, SO YOU'LL SEE IT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT SAME MATH GET PICKED BACK UP LATER WHERE WE PUT IT BACK INTO LEASE PAYMENTS.

MMM.

SEE ANYTHING THAT'S GLARING.

I'M STILL JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH AND PRETTY, PRETTY QUICK HERE.

ALL, MOST, ALL OF THIS IS JUST TRUE AND UP THE SALARIES.

HOW DO I GET THE TRANSFERS? PAGE 31, UM, UPDATED KAUFMAN COUNTY LIBRARY.

LET'S GO BACK TO 17, 17.

OKAY.

THIS IS STILL IN YELLOW BOXES UP THAT WHEN WE WAS HANDLING WHAT WE DID WITH HR,

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WE ADDED THE POSITION AND THAT'S ALL.

SO THE 50,102, THAT'S A BASE POSITION FULLY LOADED.

SO THE RAISES ARE STILL SETTING OUT THERE.

SO THE NEW POSITION IS THEIR NEW POSITION IS IN.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT 5,102 IS.

THAT'S ONE POSITION WITH BENEFITS.

IT'S SOME PAGES AT 17 AT THE TOP.

THAT POSITION IS IN THEIR POSITION.

YES, SIR.

SO AGAIN, I'M GOING PRETTY QUICK HERE.

SO ON TRANSFERS, PAGE 31, JUST SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS IS THE ONE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

SO THIS IS WHAT I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME RISK ON THIS JUVENILE PROBATION.

WE'VE GOT 603, NINE 75.

WE EXPECT THAT TO GO UP.

I MEAN, HER, HER BUDGET ALONE WAS REQUESTED AN EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SOME EXTRA BED SPACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

THE, WE DON'T KNOW THE FORMULA AS TO WHAT THE STATE'S GOING TO PAY.

THEN WE HAVE TO PAY A PORTION OF THAT.

SO THIS IS VERY LIKELY GOING TO GO UP, BUT SAY IT GOES UP A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WELL, NOW YOUR, YOUR SURPLUS HAS GONE.

YES.

SO, SO I THINK WE'RE AT RISK.

THEY'RE KAREN, JERRY.

IT GOES UP JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THE STATE GOES DOWN ON WANT TO CONTRIBUTE.

SO YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND IT'S REAL STRONG.

WE KEPT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY GET IT.

AND WE LOOKED AT IT.

I STILL DON'T KNOW.

JUDGE WOOD TOLD ME THAT IN EIGHT YEARS, HE NEVER DID UNDERSTAND IT.

SO HE TOLD ME TO QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT.

SO THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT, SHOULD I ASK ABOUT THAT? WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A, AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR IN THAT WE'RE NOT? SO THE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT 25,000 THAT THE GENERAL FOAM IS GOING TO PICK UP OUT OF ENGINEER.

SO THERE'S THE 25,000 THAT ADJUSTMENTS BEEN MADE.

WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON JURORS? STILL ON PAGE 31.

OKAY.

TRANSFER.

RAYLAND SENT US A NOTE.

WE TRUED UP LAKE DOWN.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

SO WE PICKED UP 85,000 TO THE GOOD AND AGAIN, JUST TRUE AND UP.

THIS IS THAT ADJUSTMENT MIKE TO SOLID WASTE.

SO TWO OH SEVEN FIVE, WE TOOK THAT MUCH MORE OUT OF GENERAL FUND THE FUND DOWN INTO GENERAL WASTE.

THAT'S THAT'S THE MATH.

AND YOU'LL SEE A TRUE BACKUP WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THOSE FUND ACCOUNTS.

UM, WE CAN GO OVER ROAD AND BRIDGE, BUT THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL BALANCED.

I HAD A, I HAD A MEETING WITH SKATE JUST JUST LITTLE WHILE AGO.

HE GAVE ME HIS NUMBER.

SO ALL OF THESE WILL BALANCE TO ZERO.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THE RAISE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT FOR OUR SYSTEMS? YES, SIR.

EVERYTHING'S IN THERE.

EVERYTHING IS IN THERE.

SO I JUST GOT HIM, I GOT TO MAKE TWO ADJUSTMENTS TO PRECINCT TWO AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE BALANCED OUT AS WELL.

WE DID.

WE DID.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE IS ACCURATE.

UM, ADULT PROBATION, KAREN, I'M STILL IN A SMALL VARIANCE, BUT I THINK I JUST NEED TO ADJUST THE REVENUE BACK BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A COST NEUTRAL.

ISN'T IT? ADULT PAGE THIRD, PAGE 43.

ISN'T ADULT PROBATION, COST NEUTRAL.

IT'S ALL STATEMENTS.

SO WE JUST GOT JUST KIND OF, SO I JUST NEED TO ADJUST THE REVENUE AND I'LL GET THIS ONE BACK TO ZERO BECAUSE HIS BUDGET WENT UP A LITTLE.

YEAH.

WE'RE HAVING TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE THEY SENT US SOME ADJUSTMENTS THEY WANT MADE BECAUSE HE CARRIED OVER SO MUCH INSTEAD OF PAYING IT BACK, THEY'RE KIND OF CHANGING IT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A TRUE ZERO NUMBER.

IT WILL TRUE UP AS A ZERO.

SO IT WAS A SMALL IT'S OFF A LITTLE BIT NOW, BUT IT WILL TRUE BACK UP.

THE NEXT ONE IS JUVENILE PROBATION.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO TRUE THAT UP WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR THE REST OF THIS, THIS WORKBOOK.

UM, KAREN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THE RIGHT NUMBER IN MY, IN MY TAX RATE WORKBOOK FOR INS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THE RIGHT AND TOTAL NUMBER.

SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET WITH YOU.

AND WE'LL TRUE THAT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS WORKBOOK AND WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, HE, HE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY AND THEN THE SPECIAL PROJECT AND I PUT IT AS AN EXPENSE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S, WE'RE GOING TO CARRY SOME OF THAT MONEY FORWARD SO I CAN FINISH THE PROJECT, BUT I'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, DID HIS BEGINNING BALANCE MAKE THE EXPENDITURE, BUT UNTIL I GET SPENDING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO STAND FOR THE SUMMER AND I GET ALL THE BILLS, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENED, THE TRUE OF THEIR FUND BALANCE.

I'LL BRING IT BACK TO Y'ALL TO APPROVE BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN GUESSTIMATE IT.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME BIG PROJECTS OUT THERE FIXING TO SPEND THOUSANDS ON ROAD MATERIALS, 138, WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS.

THEY HAD, WELL, PROBABLY BE GONE BY THIS BACK PARKING LOT.

I HAVE SOME MONEY

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ESCROW MONEY IN GENERAL FUND.

NOW THAT THROUGH THAT PROJECT, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT FROM GENERAL FUNDING, PUT IT INTO THE BOND PERIOD.

OKAY.

SO LETTERS ARE GOING OUT TO ELECTED OFFICIALS TOMORROW, UH, SHOWING THE INCREASE IN THEIR, UH, IN THEIR WAGES AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS.

THIS WILL BE POSTED.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO POST, I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO JUST POST THIS JUST THE WAY IT IS.

OH, I WANT TO PUT THOSE RAISES IN THERE FIRST.

SO LET'S TAKE THIS 2% AND PRORATE IT AND WE'LL HAVE WELL THAT'S RIGHT.

NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ADDITIONAL COLUMN.

SHE DOESN'T HAVE IT IN HER WORKSHEET.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW HER HOW WE DO IT SO WE CAN CALCULATE IT THE TOTAL.

THEN WE CAN GO IN THERE AND FIX THESE LINE ITEMS BECAUSE THEN I'VE GOT TO FIX THE MONEY.

YEAH, WE GOT TO COVER IT.

WE GOT TO COVER IT.

BRANDY, CAN YOU DO THE ELECTRIC OFFICIALS FIRST WHEN YOU'RE CAN Y'ALL DO THAT FIRST WHEN YOU WERE PUTTING THEM INTO THIS SPREADSHEET.

SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

FIRST THING TOMORROW, WHAT HAPPENED? WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND JERRY WOULD SEND US A COPY OF WHAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE PUBLISHED OR WHAT'S IN THE LETTER FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

AND WE'D VERIFY IT BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR VEHICLE THING HAS TO BE.

YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL WORK THOSE NUMBERS UP AND THEN YOU Y'ALL CHECK THEM OFF AND WE'RE OKAY.

YEAH.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD A LINE ITEM UP UNDER REVENUE TO COVER THE DEFICIT.

CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE UPSIDE DOWN.

YEAH.

YOU WON'T HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER WHAT WE HAVE TO PULL IT OUT A FINE WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, THAT THING I'VE ALREADY ADDED WHERE I TOOK THE TWO 50 AND I'LL HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER ONE.

OKAY.

TO USE PHONE BALANCED.

ANOTHER ACCOUNT, NO LINE ITEM GOT PLENTY OF THEM.

WHAT'S ANOTHER EXTRA.

NOW YOU NEVER NOTICED ANOTHER ONE TO HELP ME BACK.

OKAY.

SO THIS, WITH THOSE CHANGES WILL BE, WHAT'S POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CRUISING TOWARDS A COMPLETION OF AUGUST THE 18TH, 18TH.

UH, THAT'S STILL, I THINK WE'RE STILL TRACKING GOOD FOR THAT DATE TO BE, I MEAN, NONE, AUGUST ONE, AUGUST 18TH.

OKAY.

ARE WE HAVING ANOTHER WORKSHOP TOMORROW? TOMORROW MORNING? AFTER A CORK, DEPENDING ON HOW FAST I CAN TYPE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET ANOTHER FULL SET, READY TO GO BY THEN.

I'LL WORK ON ALL AFTERNOON.

I GOT TO HAVE THE PAYROLL FIRST.

YOU HAD ALL WEEKEND OFF.

I DON'T KNOW WHY SLEEP'S OVERRATED.

RIGHT? WHAT'S THE SIGNAL.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR ANYTHING ELSE? FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTY? YEAH.

YES.

WAIT A MINUTE.

DON'T YOU? SOAP IS AUTHORITY.

NO, NO, I'M NOT.

I JUST WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT IT IS BUDGET STUFF, BUT IT'S NOT BUDGET STUFF, SO, OKAY.

LOOK, WE'LL CALL IT A BUDGET STUFF.

I'D LOT TO ROB PAM FROM YOUR OFFICE AND BRING HER DOWN THERE TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS FOR FOUR SINCE, UM, SHE'S THERE WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE A LOT OF PROGRESS THAT KOBE KIND OF SLOWED US DOWN, BUT I ANTICIPATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, DOWN THERE AT THE END OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE MAY DE HOSE AND WORK WITH THEM PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY TO INCORPORATE THE POOR FORM.

SO WOULD IT BE LIKE A PARK TYPE SITUATION? SO I THINK WE NEED SOMEBODY DOWN THERE TO INTERACT AND DEAL WITH DAY TO DAY TYPE STUFF ON THAT.

SHE'S A FULL TIME COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

I MEAN, SHE'S GOT ALL KINDS OF ORGANIZATIONS AND STUFF THAT SHE DEALS WITH DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND THEN SHE'S REALLY HELPING WITH THE SOLID WASTE, NOT FOR, FOR WHAT'S BETWEEN HER EARS, BUT SHE'S ALSO DOING A LOT OF THE NEARLY ALL OF THE ADVERTISING AND STUFF, FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND GETTING THE WORD OUT THERE SO THAT WAY, AND SHE CAN BE MORE INVOLVED WITH ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF TOO, SINCE WE'RE THERE CLOSE ANYWAY IN WORKING WITH FELICIA AND THE BILLING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, WELL, I HAVEN'T, I'D HAVE TO, I'D WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HER ABOUT IT.

SURE, SURE.

SINCE, SINCE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO AT LEAST FLOAT THE IDEA THAT ULTIMATELY THE OVERSIGHT FOR THE COUNTY OF, OF THE SOLID WASTE PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE ALREADY BUILT

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PROBABLY OUGHT TO TRANSITION BACK OUT OF A COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE INTO A DEPARTMENT, SOME SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, AN INSTITUTIONALIZED FUNCTION.

AND, UH, MAY, MAYBE WE MIGHT CONSIDER MOVING THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT PARDON ME, BUT, UH, MOVING THAT FUNCTION INTO PAM'S WHEELHOUSE AS WELL.

IT'S RELATIVELY STREAMLINED NOW AND WE'LL WE'LL KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER TOMORROW'S COURT.

WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS, ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL THINGS WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST FROM THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE MORE OF A COMMITMENT FOR A LONGTERM COMMITMENT ONCE WE TALK TOMORROW AND IT'S GOING TO BE STREAMLINED THE WAY WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO WHEN IT'S RUNNING REAL WELL AND THE, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE JUST OUTRAGEOUS, TERRIBLE SURPASSED EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE DONE.

AND WE'VE DONE A LOT ON ALL THE OTHER ONES.

SO IT'S REALLY GROWING, BUT THE, UH, THE POOR FARMERS STARTING TO TAKE UP MORE AND MORE OF MY TIME ALSO.

AND I SEE THAT WE STARTED PARTNERING WITH A DEVELOPER DOWN THERE AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE UP A LOT MORE TIME THERE TOO.

SO IT WAS JUST SOMEONE TO HELP MANAGE ALL THAT STUFF.

SO IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

I MEAN, I HATE TO STEAL YOUR PERSON, BUT I AM STILL A, SHE'S STILL BASICALLY THE GRANT COORDINATOR AS WELL FOR THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

THE CONCERN.

I MEAN, WHEN I, WELL, I'LL JUST TALK TO HER ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, SHE'S, SHE'S GOT PROBABLY 10 OR MORE RESPONSIBILITIES WITH ORGANIZATIONS.

SHE'S, I MEAN, SHE'S REALLY THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS SHE'S REALLY THE FACE OF THE COUNTY FOR A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, I SURE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THE ELDERLY AND THE WELFARE AND THE INDIGENT CARE AND YOU KNOW, THE HOMELESS THAT SHE MAKES AN IMPACT WITH EVERY DAY.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO SHE'S REALLY MORE THAN A, UH, PROJECT PROGRAM MANAGER.

SHE'S MORE THAN THAT NOW.

I MEAN, SHE'S PRETTY MUCH COMMUNITY RESOURCE PERSON FOR THE COUNTY.

SO YOU DON'T MEET HER REALLY YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOU JUST NEED HER DOWN THERE.

YEAH.

IN HER OWN DEPARTMENT.

YEAH.

SO SHE CAN HELP KEEP AN EYE ON THE POOR FORM.

I MEAN, SHE'S, SHE'S BOMB AND SHE'S A SOLID SUPPORT OF THE POOR FORM ALWAYS HAS BEEN DOWN THERE.

AND I THINK SHE'S PROBABLY, SHE'S GOT MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT THAN I DO AND TRUTH BE KNOWN AND SHE'S GOT MORE CONTACTS AND GRANTS AND THE VITAL CHANCES TO GET MONEY THAN I EVER DO FOR SOLID WASTE.

YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, CAUSE SHE HAS ALL THOSE CONTACTS AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THOSE CONTACTS.

CAUSE I HAVE, I MAY HAVE, I, YOU KNOW, I STAY PRETTY BUSY DOING THE COUNTY STUFF TOO.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE DUTIES THAT THE NEW PERSON THAT I HIRED, I WANT THEM TO BE DOING WITH THE GRANTS.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE IF THEY Y'ALL AGREE TO WHAT HE'S ASKING, THAT MAYBE SHE COULD TRAIN MY PERSON TO TAKE OVER THE GRANTS TO HELL.

I MEAN, I CAN OFFER THAT TO HELP OUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK.

WELL, I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAKING THE MOTION TO MOVE ME SOMEWHERE.

YOU CAN'T BE, YOU CAN'T BE MOVING.

YOU CANNOT BE MOVING.

YOU'RE LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF THE BIBLE.

YOU CAN'T BE MOVED.

I'M BAD.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION DURING THIS BABY.

EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, A JOURNAL MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL THAT AGAIN? COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.