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[Call to Order]
OF THE COPLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS CALLED TO ORDER IT'S TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, 2020 9:00 AM IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM AND THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX, UH, WE'LL START OFF, I'LL OFFER AN IMPLICATION FOR US.AND, UH, I WONDER IF A CRUCIAL BARBARA WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.
YES, PLEASE STAND HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE.
WE ASK THAT YOU, UH, GUIDE THE DECISIONS OF, UH, THOSE OF US THAT ARE IN THIS POSITION TO, UH, LEAD OUR COUNTY AND TO MAKE DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITIZENS.
UH, WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECTED THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROTECT US EVERY DAY AND IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IN THE MILITARY, WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE ONE STATE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
AT THIS TIME WE HAVEN'T, WHAT WE DO IN OUR AGENDA IS, UH, WE HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS.
I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT THIS MORNING.
UM, JUST TO REFRESH YOU, YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE, BUT I'LL REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON THAT.
UM, EACH PERSON, UH, UH, IS ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ABOUT A MATTER THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.
AND I I'M PRESUMING THAT EVERYBODY HERE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM AGENDA ITEM THREE, WHICH IS DISCUSS THE SENATE SENATE TAF LOCATED AT THE COFFIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK ON THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.
UH, IN ADDITION, EVERYBODY IS ASKED TO, UH, KEEP THEIR COMMENTS, UH, TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN THE INTEREST OF EVERYONE'S TIME.
AND THIS WOULD BE PURELY AT YOUR DISCRETION.
IF SOMEBODY SPEAKS BEFORE YOU THAT SAYS THE SAME THING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND REPEAT WHAT THEY SAID, BUT, UH, IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY COVERED YOUR SUBJECT, THEN, UM, THAT'S BE YOUR OPTION TO, TO NOT SPEAK AT THAT TIME.
SO, UH, SHERIFF, I DON'T KNOW.
DO WE HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE? YES.
THEN YOU I'LL JUST CALL THE NAMES AND IF THEY'RE NOT IN HERE, YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY TO CALL IT.
JUST GOT THEM IN THE ORDER THAT I RECEIVED THEM.
SO THE FIRST PERSON IS LINDA GAIL WOODEN.
GOOD MORNING IF YOU'D STEP UP AND TELL US, UH, WHO YOU ARE FOR THE RECORD AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, REBECCA WILL BE TIMING EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS FOR THREE MINUTES.
UM, MY NAME IS LINDA GAIL WHITTEN, AND I'M FROM MY BANK.
UM, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, SPEAK THIS MORNING.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO RELINQUISH MY TIME TO JENNIFER.
YOU'D LIKE TO DO WHAT? GIVE MY TIME TO JENNIFER, JENNIFER WHO? UH, ROBINSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OUT WHEN WE GET TO JENNIFER.
WE'LL ADD THAT TO HER TIME THEN.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING DOWN THE LIST HERE THAT, I MEAN, THE STACK THAT I'VE GOT, SO THE NEXT PERSON IS DANIEL.
IF YOU'LL SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE ARE YOU FROM? UH, MY NAME IS DANIEL SHANNON.
I'M NOT A NATIVE BORN TEXAN, BUT I GOT HERE AS SOON AS I COULD.
UH, THIS MORNING I CAME DOWN, UH, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO CHANGE HISTORY AND I CAME DOWN TO SPEAK AGAINST THE CHANGING OF THE HISTORY ON THAT.
DID I START MY THREE MINUTES NOW? NO, SHE SH SHE'S GOING, SHE'S COUNTING HER THREE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, WELL, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A
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NATIVE TEXAN, I AM DESCENDED FROM AT LEAST 14 CONFEDERATE VETERANS AND NONE OF THEM ARE SLAVE OWNERS.IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE, RACE, ISM, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT ALL OF THEM DID WORK BESIDES SLAVES AND THE BLACK PEOPLE WHERE I CAME FROM EVEN THEY FLEW THE FLAG BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD HISTORY AND THEY DID NOT FALL FOR THE FALSE NARRATIVE THAT PEOPLE WERE PUSHING TODAY.
UM, WE HAVE A STATUTE RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF OUR STAFF, UH, HORT HOUSE THAT WAS PUT THERE TO HONOR THOSE VETERANS WHO SACRIFICE THEMSELVES FOR THEIR HOME OR FOR THEIR COUNTRY.
NOW, ONE THING, IF WE'RE GOING TO DESTROY CONFEDERATE EMBLEMS HERE, ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED IS THAT FLAG RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIGHT THAT TEXAS FOUGHT UNDER DURING THAT WAR.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONFEDERATE SYMBOLS.
AND IF IT HAS TO DO WITH SLAVERY, WHEN DID THEY DO AWAY WITH THAT ONE RIGHT THERE? BECAUSE SLAVERY WAS LEGAL ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
SO THEY'RE TURNING THIS INTO A FALSE NARRATIVE THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR RACIAL RELATIONS.
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
IT HAS TO DO WITH HONORING OUR ANCESTORS AND THOSE VETERANS WHO HAVE A HUNDRED HONORABLY SERVED NOW, SLAVERY WASN'T ATROCITY, BUT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT WAR THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SYMBOL THAT'S OUT THERE IN FRONT OF OUR COURTHOUSE OUT THERE.
AND THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE DON'T WANT TO DESTROY HISTORY BECAUSE THAT IS THE TOOL THAT THE ENEMIES YOU USE TO TRY TO DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT AMERICA.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M GOING TO GIVE MY MINUTES TO JENNIFER.
YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO TALK MARK CUBAN.
YOU'RE YOUR LAPTOP? MY CANCER WAS HE GIVING ME UP FOR SEASON TICKET MONEY BACK, MAN.
COMMISSIONER KATE SAYS HE WANTS HIS SEASON TICKET MONEY BACK FROM THE BASKETS.
IF YOU WOULD TELL US YOUR NAME AND WHERE ARE YOU FROM? UH, MY NAME IS MARK CUBAN WITH THE K K U B A N NOT THE RICH ONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS MY, MY APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER.
UM, I MEAN, I'M OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING IN FAVOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING OF KEEPING THE MONUMENT.
UM, IT'S BEEN, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN HERE FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE POPULATION OF KAUFMAN COUNTY WANTS TO KEEP IT.
UM, REGARDLESS, MAYBE YOU HAD A BIG GROUP AT THE LAST MEETING THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE, YOU KNOW, AS AN ADDENDUM TO THE MEETING THAT SOMEBODY PUT OUT, UM, AND THAT YOU HAD A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE MAYBE THAT WERE WANTING TO TAKE IT DOWN.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, THIS COUNTY IS NOT LIKE DALLAS COUNTY WHERE WE SHOULDN'T CAVE IN TO BLACK LIVES MATTERS.
WE SHOULDN'T CAVE INTO ANTIFA AND MAKE NO MISTAKE.
THAT'S WHO BEHIND WHO IS BEHIND TAKING NOW ALL OF THESE MONUMENTS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP WITH THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT.
THEY WANT TO TAKE DOWN ALL HISTORY.
SO Y'ALL CAN GIVE IN LIKE DALLAS COUNTY, WE CAN START CALLING YOU JOHN WILEY PRICE.
WE CAN START CALLING YOU CLAY JENKINS OR STAND UP.
PARKER COUNTY STOOD UP, THEIR COMMISSIONERS VOTED SIX TO ZERO.
I THINK TO KEEP THEIR MONUMENT.
CITY OF CLEVELAND HAS MONUMENTS.
THEY'RE NAMED AFTER A CONFEDERATE GENERAL.
I BELIEVE THEIR MAYOR STOOD UP AND SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU DOWN.
THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO STAND UP.
NOW Y'ALL GOT THIS COMMISSION COMING, 15 PERSON COMMISSION.
IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE PASSING THE BUCK TO THEM.
LIKE YOU WANT TO, UH, GET RID OF THE MONUMENT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IT ON THE COMMISSION AND DO WHAT THEY SAY THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
BUT LET ME READ SOMETHING FROM THE JULY 14TH MEETING.
THIS IS FROM THE TRANSCRIPT THAT, UM, I, I ASSUME IT'S PRETTY ACCURATE.
UM, SOMEBODY SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL SAYS EVERYTHING THAT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE INPUT THEY GET FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW.
AND I THINK TERRY BARBER, UH, SAYS, START SAYING THIS,
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UM, IF NOT, YOU CAN CORRECT ME.UH, LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
HE SAYS MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS IN SOME WAY, I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT FROM THE NUMBER OF LETTERS THAT KEN HAS, I ASSUME THAT'S KEN AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT I'VE GOT.
YOU KNOW, I BRIEFCASE SOME STACK LIKE THAT.
I'LL ALL THE, I MEAN, I'M TELLING 99% OF EVERYTHING I RECEIVED IS NOBODY WANTS THAT STATUE TO GO ANYWHERE.
SO Y'ALL RECEIVE, I ASSUME YOU'VE RECEIVED TONS OF EMAILS AND CALLS AND NOBODY WANTS TO STATUE TO GO ANYWHERE.
AND THEN IT SAYS, ALL THESE FOLKS HERE TODAY ARE JUST THE OPPOSITE.
THAT WAS THE OTHER PEOPLE AT THE MEETING, WHO I ASSUME WERE, IT WAS A SETUP FOR THEM TO COME AND SPEAK.
SO, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION OF KAUFMAN COUNTY WANTS TO KEEP IT.
UH, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO TAKE IT DOWN AND
CAUSE I'M PROMISED YOU I'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS, YOU'RE SUPPORTING ANTIFA AND BLACK LIVES MATTERS.
GOOD MORNING OF YOU WOULD, YOU COULD STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE MAYOR AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM.
I'M ALMA CORNWELL AND I'M FROM CRANDALL AND I'M DEFINITELY FOR KEEPING THE MONUMENT.
AND I KNOW MY MOMENTS DO MY MINUTES TO JENNIFER ROBINSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MIKE PIERCE.
GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN, WHERE Y'ALL LEFT A HANDOUT THERE.
I'M GOING TO READ FROM THAT AND JUST A MOMENT.
I'M THE CAMP COMMANDER OF THE GREENVILLE, SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS.
I'M HERE TO VOICE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS CENOTAPH.
THE WORD CENOTAPH IN ITS DEFINITION IS TRANSLATED TO AN EMPTY TOMB.
THESE ARE ERECTED IN HONOR OF A PERSON OR A GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO, WHOSE REMAINS OR ELSEWHERE.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR CENOTAPH IS DEDICATED TO HONOR THE CONFEDERATE DEAD FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY.
MANY BRAVE SOUTHERNERS, NEVER MADE IT BACK TO LATE TO BE LAID, TO REST WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
I'M GOING TO READ THE CHARGE TO THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS.
AND YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG IN THAT HANDOUT.
I GAVE YOU DO YOU SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS.
WE SUBMIT THE VINDICATION OF THE CAUSE FOR WHICH WE FOUGHT TO YOUR STRENGTH WILL BE GIVEN THE DEFENSE OF THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS, GOOD NAME, THE GUARDIANSHIP OF HIS HISTORY, THE EMULATION OF HIS VIRTUES, THE PERPETUATION OF THOSE PRINCIPLES HE LOVED AND WHICH MADE HIM GLORIOUS.
REMEMBER IT IS YOUR DUTY TO SEE THAT THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE SOUTH HAS PRESENTED TO FUTURE GENERATIONS IN 1906 GENERAL STEPHEN DEAL, LEE ISSUE DISCHARGED US AND GENTLEMEN, I TAKE THIS CHARGE VERY SERIOUSLY, UM, TO PROTECT AND DEFEND MY ANCESTORS.
IF WE CONTINUE TO BAND AND REMOVE THESE MONUMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, NOT ONLY THE REMOVAL OF THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS, BUT TO THOSE THAT WHICH WISH TO ERASE OUR HISTORY WILL ATTACK EVERYTHING OUR AMERICAN SOCIETY IS BASED UPON TODAY.
I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE KEEP THE CENOTAPH HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND TO HONOR OUR CONFEDERATE ANCESTORS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MICHAEL HURLEY.
GOOD MORNING, JUDGE RICHARDS AND A COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK FOR JUST A FEW MOMENTS.
I'M FROM TYLER, TEXAS GOT UP EARLY AND DROVE DOWN THIS MORNING.
I AM THE SECOND LIEUTENANT COMMANDER OF THE TEXAS DIVISION OF THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS MAKING ME THE SENIOR OFFICER IN EAST, TEXAS.
THEREFORE I REPRESENT THE ORGANIZATION THIS MORNING.
SO I BRING YOU GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF OUR 86 CHAPTERS AND OVER 3000 MEMBERS.
AND AS MR. PIERCE, MY COMPATRIOT JUST MENTIONED, OF COURSE, I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE CENOTAPH IN ITS PLACE.
MR. RICHARDS, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
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THE PRAYER THAT YOU STARTED OUR MEETING WITH TODAY.YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS I LIVE IN EAST TEXAS IS BECAUSE WE ARE IN MANY WAYS, A REFLECTION OF AMERICA.
WE HONOR OUR FLAG WITH THE PLEDGE.
WE REMEMBER TEXAS AND HER SACRIFICE AND THE PLEDGE.
WE START WITH A PRAYER THAT MENTIONS ALL MIGHTY GOD AND HIS SON, JESUS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A DIFFICULT JOB.
I REALLY DO MAKE NO BONES ABOUT IT.
I'M FOR KEEPING THE CENOTAPH IN PLACE, BUT I WANT TO DARE YOU TO DREAM, TO BE A LEADER IN A TIME YOUR COUNTY NEEDS YOU PERHAPS MORE THAN IN THE LAST 20 OR 30 YEARS.
AND WHY CAN'T WE DARE TO DREAM NOT ERASING THE HISTORY THAT'S BEFORE US, BUT PERHAPS CELEBRATING THOSE WHO ARE LIVING TODAY, WHO ALSO ARE WORTHY OF RECOGNITION.
YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL COURTHOUSE.
AND IN THIS, I WALKED FROM THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE I THOUGHT OUR MEETING WAS THERE OVER HERE THIS MORNING.
I NOTICED THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM ON THE LAWN.
WHY NOT LEAVE OUR HISTORY IN PLACE, WHICH OUR FOREFATHERS SACRIFICED TO PUT THERE FOR, TO HELP US REMEMBER WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH AND WHAT THEY DID AND WHY NOT HAVE THIS COMMITTEE? YOU FORMED MR. BARBER, PERHAPS LOOK AT RECOGNIZING A COFFIN COUNTY RESIDENT OR PERHAPS A GREAT TEXT.
AND THAT SHOULD BE HONORED TODAY.
WHY CAN'T WE FIND A WAY AS AMERICANS ALWAYS DO TO FIND A COMPROMISE WHERE WE CAN LIVE TOGETHER? ONCE AGAIN IN HARMONY, NOT AT THE, AT THE FORSAKING OF WHAT WENT BEFORE AND NO, I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THAT.
I WEAR SIX OF MY GRANDFATHERS ON MY LAPEL THIS MORNING AND THEIR REGIMENTS.
THEY FOUGHT IN AND THE CONFEDERATE ON ME.
I THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CONSIDERATION.
AND FINALLY, I KNOW I'M RUNNING OVER THE WORDS OF YOUR COUNTERPART IN PARKER COUNTY.
AFTER THE SIX ZERO VOTE JUDGE, PAT DEAN SAID, YOU SEE OUR MONUMENT REPRESENTS OUR HISTORY AND THOSE WHO'VE DIED IN THE WAR ON BOTH SIDES.
IT REPRESENTS A TIME IN OUR HISTORY THAT NO LONGER EXISTS, THANKFULLY, BUT WE LOOK AT THE CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE GATHERED HERE AND I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
THE JUDGE SAID THAT THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER IN FAVOR OF NOT REMOVING THE STATUE.
I CHALLENGE YOU TO LEAD US AND FIND A WAY TO BRING US TOGETHER.
THE GREAT BOOK SAYS, REMEMBER THE LANDMARKS WHICH THEY FATHERS HAVE SAID, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOUR JOURNEY OVER HERE TODAY.
MY NAME IS SANDRA EMBRY AND I LIVE NEAR CAMP, TEXAS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
I WAS GOING TO SEED MY MINUTES TO JENNIFER, BUT BECAUSE SHE'S GETTING SO MANY MINUTES, I WILL SPEAK.
UM, I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED TO LEARN WHAT THIS MONUMENT STANDS FOR.
ONE GENTLEMEN ALREADY MENTIONED IS IT'S NOT MERELY A MONUMENT.
IT WAS PLACED IN HONOR OF THE MEN WHO FOUGHT IN THE WAR, WHO WERE KILLED IN FAR AWAY STATES AND WHO WERE BURIED IN UNMARKED GRAVES.
THESE MEN CAME FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR HOMES.
IT DISCREDITS US TO IGNORE THEIR SACRIFICE AND IGNORE WHAT THE PEOPLE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY WANTED.
ONE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED THAT THIS REMOVAL OF STATUTES WILL NOT STOP AT CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS.
CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS, GEORGE WASHINGTON, AND EVEN SAINTS UNIT BUREAU.
SARAH, THE GREAT SAINT OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION, ST.
LOUIS THE NIGHT, EVEN STATUES OF THE VIRGIN, MARY AND JESUS HAVE BEEN ATTACKED.
THESE SEEM TO BE TROUBLED TIMES.
WE LIVE IN A PUSH TO REMOVE HISTORY THAT IS REMINISCENT OF BOLSHEVISM IS GOING FULL FORCE IN THIS COUNTRY.
PERHAPS A BETTER IDEA WOULD BE TO RETURN TO TEACHING HISTORY IN OUR SCHOOLS RATHER THAN JUST TO DESTROY IT.
UM, JENNIFER ROBINSON IS NEXT, BUT I'M GOING TO LEAVE IN CASE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS YOU TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
I THINK I'LL PUT YOU AT THE VERY HANDS AND AIR.
NO, YOU'RE A, THIS YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING ON THIS SUBJECT.
WELL, LET'S WAIT UNTIL YOU COME UP IN THE AGENDA.
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I SPOKE AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN LONGVIEW, TEXAS, OVER THE SAME SUBJECT AND THERE THEY SAID YOU GOT TO WEAR IT.SO I'M GOING TO KEEP WEARING IT HERE.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M FROM DOWN NEAR LONGVIEW, TEXAS, WHERE I LIVE AT ROSEBURG, TEXAS.
I'M A COMMANDER OF THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS CAMP.
I'M ALSO AN ARMY VETERAN SERVED DURING THE VIETNAM WAR.
I GET JUST DRIVING UP HERE TODAY FROM CANTON TO HERE, I SAW HISTORICAL MARKERS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
MY WIFE ALWAYS ACCUSES ME OF STOPPING AT EVERY ONE I SAY SO, AND I USED TO DO THAT REAL EASY.
SO STICKERS ON MY SHIRT SAYS, SAVE OUR MONUMENTS, SAVE OUR HISTORY.
THE MONUMENT THAT Y'ALL HAVE ON THIS COURTHOUSE GROUNDS.
THE ONE THAT'S ON THE COURTHOUSE GROUNDS IN LONG VIEW REPRESENTS AMERICAN VETERANS, TEXAS SOLDIERS.
MOST OF THEM THAT THE MONUMENTS PUT UP FOR WHEN NAMED TO PRESERVE THIS, PROTECT THIS ALL MARCH, THE THIRD OF THIS YEAR, TEXAS HAD THEIR ELECTIONS.
IF YOU'LL REMEMBER ON THE REBEL REPUBLICAN BALLOT, THEY HAD SEVERAL PROPOSITIONS ON THERE.
Y'ALL REMEMBER THIS PROPOSITION NUMBER SEVEN SAYS, LEAVE OUR MONUMENTS ALONE, PROTECT THEM, PRESERVE THEM ALL HISTORICAL MARKERS BUILDINGS AND OUR MONUMENTS.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE VOTE.
TYLER HEARING Y'ALLS COUNTY AND LONGVIEW AND GREGG COUNTY.
IT PASSED BY 98.8% SAYING THAT REPUBLICAN VOTERS SAYS LEAVE OUR MONUMENTS ALONE.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PASSED THE PAST ALL OVER THE STATE.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU AS A CITIZEN OF TEXAS, PROTECT YOUR MONUMENT, PROTECT YOUR HISTORY.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK TODAY.
I'M FROM FLORIDA AND UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAINLY READ A FEW THINGS THAT I FELT WERE IMPORTANT TO THIS CASE.
CAN I TAKE THAT BACK? UM, I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE TWO MISSION STATEMENTS FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THE PURPOSE IS TO IDENTIFY, PROTECT AND INTERPRET FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THE PAGEANTRY OF LOCAL, TEXAS HISTORY AND THE LEGACY OF FOREBEARS WHOSE LIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS DESERVE REMEMBRANCE.
AND THEN THE TEXAS STATE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE OLDEST LEARN SOCIETY IN THE STATE.
ITS MISSION IS TO FOSTER THE APPRECIATION, UNDERSTANDING AND TEACHING OF THE RICH AND UNIQUE HISTORY OF TEXAS.
AND BY EXAMPLE, AND THROUGH PROGRAM AND ACTIVITIES, ENCOURAGE AND PROMOTE RESEARCH PRESERVATION AND PUBLICATION OF HISTORICAL MATERIAL AFFECTING THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND THIS IS A QUOTE FROM FRANKLIN GRAHAM THAT I THOUGHT WAS GREAT.
YOU CAN TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR HISTORY, BUT THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENED IS GOING NOWHERE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY WAY TO GET PAST SLAVERY IS THAT IF WHAT A CONFEDERATE SOLDIER MEANS TO YOU IS TO FORGIVE THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE DON'T PASS ON THOSE FEELINGS OF HATE TO YOUR CHILDREN.
MISTAKES WERE MADE IN THE PAST.
LET'S NOT MAKE ANOTHER ONE BY REMOVING THE STATUE.
AND I TOO FEEL LIKE LET'S FOLLOW THE PARKER COUNTY BOAT AND LEAVE IT FOR THE PEOPLE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, THE PEOPLE THAT PUT IT THERE.
AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE IN TALKING TO PEOPLE, EVEN IN KAUFMAN, TOO MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS OLDER PEOPLE THAT AREN'T ON FACEBOOK THAT AREN'T ONLINE AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY WOULD BE WITH US HERE TODAY.
IF IN SOME CAN'T BE LIKE, MAKE IT THESE OLDER PEOPLE, SO PLEASE KEEP THEM IN MIND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARY PAIGE JONES.
YOU'RE GOING TO YIELD YOUR TIME TO JENNIFER.
THANK YOU, JOSEPH HUFF, MASTER
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AKA ROB JONES.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT YOU GOT TO PICK A NAME, YOUR HONOR, COMMISSIONERS STAFF, SHERIFF, I'M ROB JONES.
AND I'M AN ATTORNEY IN NEVADA COUNTY JUST ACROSS THE TRINITY RIVER.
WE HAVE A LITTLE MUSEUM THERE WHERE WE PORTRAY THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M ALSO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE TEXAS DIVISION SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS.
THE FCV SPEAKS FOR THE VETERANS.
AND YET WHEN I DID THE RESEARCH ON THIS, I FEEL LIKE THAT ANY WORDS THAT I SAY WOULD PALE IN COMPARISON TO WHAT JOSEPH HOUGH MASTER AN ATTORNEY FROM KAUFMAN, A VETERAN OF THAT CONFLICT, A DISTINGUISHED CITIZEN OF KAUFMAN AND A MAN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CENOTAPH BEING ERECTED.
SO I'M GOING TO READ HIS LETTER TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN 1910 AND THE RESPONSE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, YOUR PREDECESSORS, TO HIM, TO THE HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY ON BEHALF OF THE EX CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS AND CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, THE UNDERSIGNED RESPECTFULLY THAT IT IS THE PURPOSE OF OUR PEOPLE TO ERECT A MONUMENT OF TEXAS GRANTED TO COMMEMORATE THE PATRIOTISM AND DEEDS OF VALOR OF THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIER.
AND IT IS THEIR WISH AND DESIRE THAT SAID MONUMENTS SHALL BE PLACED IN THE SET AND THE COURTHOUSE YARD ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SAME, THE SACRIFICES, ACHIEVEMENTS, AND GALLOP SERVICE OF THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIER OF 1861 TO 1865 ARE NOW PART OF THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMON COUNTRY.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN A PUBLIC SPEECH AT LOUISVILLE IN 1905.
THEODORE ROOSEVELT STATED THAT THE HEROIC BRAVERY AND DEVOTION TO DUTY OF THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIER DISPLAYED IN FIGHTING FOR WHAT HE BELIEVED WAS RIGHT, WHEREAS MUCH A HERITAGE OF WORTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS WERE THE HEROIC, BRAVERY AND DEVOTION TO DUTY OF THE FEDERAL SOLDIER.
THE FEDERAL SOLDIER FOUGHT FOR WHAT HE DID HIS DEVOTION TO DUTY.
WHAT HE SAW AND BELIEVED WAS RIGHT, THIS HERITAGE OF WORTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
WE PROPOSE TO PERPETUATE ANY ENDURING MARBLE.
THE FEDERAL SOLDIER HAS HIS MONUMENT ALREADY ERECTED BY THE LAVISH HAND OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE PUTTING UP OUR OWN BY PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS AND IN THE HOPE THAT IT WILL STAND FOREVER AS AN INSPIRATION TO DUTY AND PATRIOTISM OF ALL THOSE WHO SHALL COME AFTER US, THE WORK WILL SOON COMMANDS.
AND WE THEREFORE ASK THE COURT THAT LEAVE, BE GRANTED TO PLAY SAID MONUMENT AT THE PLACE HERE AND ABOVE INDICATED RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED JOSEPH HUFF MASTER COMMANDER THAT UDP BENJAMIN CAMP FILED JANUARY THE THIRD NIGHT, 1810.
THE ORDER OF THE COURT READS THIS DAY CAME TO BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED THE APPLICATION OF JOSEPH HUFFMEISTER COMMANDER OF JUDAH P BENJAMIN CAMP OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS AT KAUFMAN, TEXAS IN BEHALF OF THE EX CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS AND CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS ASKING PERMISSION TO ERECT A MONUMENT OF TEXAS GRANITE TO COMMEMORATE THE PATRIOTISM AND DEEDS OF VALOR OF THE CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS.
AND SO ORDERED A JUDGED AND DECREED BY THE COURT THAT SAID APPLICATION B AND THE SAME IS HEREBY AND SAID, MONUMENT MAY BE PLACED IN THE COURTHOUSE YARD IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, TEXAS ON THE EAST SIDE OF CITY COURTHOUSE YARD.
AND THE CLERK OF THIS COURT IS ORDERED TO RECORD THE SET APPLICATION IN THE MINUTES OF THE COURT IT'S ATTESTED TO BY AIJ
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HEINEMANN COUNTY CLERK BY GM S BOGS DEPUTY.AND SO IT WAS ERECTED TO THE MEMORY OF CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS BY THE PEOPLE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY PROCLAIMS THE MONUMENT TODAY.
THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, JENNIFER ROBINSON AND BY MY ACCOUNT, YOU HAVE, UH, 15 MINUTES, MR. BARBARA, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS JUDGE.
YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO, I STARTED ON SOME HISTORICAL RESEARCH AND I DISCOVERED THINGS IN THAT HISTORICAL RESEARCH THAT DIDN'T JIVE.
WHAT I HAD BEEN TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.
IT WAS THINGS ABOUT THE WAR AND THIS WAS IN AGRICULTURAL CATALOGS AND MAGAZINES BOOKS.
I WAS SO INTERESTED IN WHAT IT WAS.
I WENT AHEAD AND I STARTED RESEARCHING THE WAR AND I FOUND OUT THAT MANY THINGS THAT I HAD BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT THE WAR WERE NOT TRUE.
YOU SEE, I WENT BACK TO ORIGINAL SOURCE DOCUMENTS.
I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THAT WAR SAID HOW THEY LIVED, WHAT THEY THOUGHT, WHAT THEY THOUGHT, WHAT THEY DID WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING I HAD EVER BEEN TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.
AND I REALIZED THEN THAT IT IS TRUE VICTORS, RIGHT? THE, THE HISTORY.
AND THEY'VE WRITTEN THAT HISTORY.
AND WE HAVE AN ENTIRE COUNTRY WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA.
HALF OF THE HISTORY THAT'S GONE ON IN THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT THIS CENOTAPH IS SOMETHING THAT WAS MEANT TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE.
QUITE FRANKLY, THERE ARE MUCH EASIER WAYS TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE THAN TO SCRIMP AND SAVE, TO PUT A SCULPTURE UP.
I'M SORRY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO FEEL INTIMIDATED, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR PERCEPTION.
WE EACH HAVE TO MAKE OUR OWN PERCEPTIONS.
THIS IS AN INANIMATE OBJECT AND THERE IS A QUOTE ATTRIBUTED TO ELEANOR ROOSEVELT THAT SAYS THAT NOBODY CAN MAKE YOU FEEL LESS THAN YOU ARE UNLESS YOU GIVE THAT PERSON PERMISSION.
AND THESE PEOPLE NEED TO EVALUATE THEIR PERCEPTIONS AND SEE THAT PERHAPS THIS ISN'T AN INTIMIDATION SOURCE.
AND PERHAPS THIS IS NOT GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO FIX.
I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN HISTORY FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN PROTECTING MONUMENTS FOR THREE YEARS.
I HAVE WITNESSED, AS MONUMENTS HAVE COME DOWN, MARKERS HAVE COME DOWN IN CEMETERIES AND THEY SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE BLACK COMMUNITY MUCH BETTER.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER.
IF WE JUST TAKE THESE THINGS DOWN.
DALLAS STARTED THREE YEARS AGO.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED JUST RECENTLY IN A RIOTING THAT'S GONE ON IN DALLAS.
POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN DALLAS.
AND YET THAT MONUMENT STARTED GOING DOWN IN DALLAS THREE YEARS AGO.
WE HAVE BLACK COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN CHARGE IN DALLAS.
AND YET, SOMEHOW THINGS AREN'T ANY BETTER THAT'S BECAUSE THE MONUMENTS AREN'T THE PROBLEM.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN CHOICES.
THEY'D RATHER BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE.
ANYBODY ELSE FOR THE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THEIR LIFE, THEN TO SIT BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENT CHOICE.
I NOTICED WHEN I WATCHED THE VIDEO OF EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED THIS COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS EVERYBODY WHO WANTS THIS CENOTAPH TAKEN DOWN, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE WHITE PEOPLE.
AND I HAVE TO WONDER WHY DO THEY THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP THE BLACK COMMUNITY? THEY AREN'T BLACK BY ALL THE PROPAGANDA THAT WE HEAR A WHITE PERSON CANNOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF SOMEONE WHO HAS DARK SKIN.
SO HOW CAN THEY SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY? AND IF THEY ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, THEN WHY ARE THEY NOT OUT THERE WORKING WITH THOSE YOUTH, TEACHING THEM COMMUNICATION SKILLS, HELPING THEM TO READ AND WRITE BETTER SO THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE AND WORK IN A PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENT
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SO THAT THEY CAN BETTER THEMSELVES.WHY ARE THEY NOT TEACHING THESE YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO NOT HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THAT THEY NEED TO USE PROTECTION? IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SEX BECAUSE AIDS IS RUNNING RAMPANT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, I KNOW I'M A NURSE.
AND YET ALL THESE PEOPLE, INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT WHAT IS REALLY GOING TO HELP THE BLACK COMMUNITY TAKE DOWN A MONUMENT, TAKE DOWN A GRAVESTONE.
WE HAVE GRAVESTONES IN SOME TERRY'S COMING DOWN BECAUSE IT'S CONFEDERATE AND IT'S GOING TO HELP THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYTHING.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYTHING.
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? IF YOU TAKE THIS DOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EVEN MORE DIVISION AMONG THE PEOPLE HERE.
I HAVE BEEN MONITORING FACEBOOK FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
NOW THERE IS A HUGE DIVIDE AND IT IS PARTISAN.
IT IS DEMOCRATS IN THIS COUNTY WHO HAVE STARTED THIS.
THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING THE ATTACK ON THIS CENOTAPH FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR THAT I'M AWARE OF.
BASED ON THE COMMENTS I HAVE SEEN OF THE DEMOCRATS ON THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DEMOCRAT PAGE, THEY KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN THEY ATTACKED.
THEY KNEW THAT PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP, THAT THEY WOULD GO PROTECT THAT MONUMENT.
AND THEY WOULD PROTECT THIS TOWN.
YOU KNOW THIS, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE HERE FROM KAUFFMAN BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID I HAVE MORE THAN 1000 SIGNATURES, BUT SAY, WE NEED TO KEEP THE CENOTAPH IN PLACE.
I HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR NAMES SHOWN TO ANYBODY BUT ME AND THIS COURT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN THREATENED.
I HAVE HAD PEOPLE ERASE THEIR NAMES BECAUSE THEIR JOBS ARE AT STAKE.
IF THEY SHOW ANY SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING CONFEDERATE.
I KNOW PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHO CAN'T EVEN PUT THEIR NAMES ON IT BECAUSE THEIR JOB IS AT STAKE.
LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE TOLD ME THEY SUPPORT KEEPING THE CENOTAPH IN PLACE, BUT THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'LL LOSE THEIR BUSINESS.
A FEW WEEKS AGO, I WITNESSED A CONVERSATION ON FACEBOOK WHERE A LOCAL BUSINESSMAN WAS IN A GROUP.
HE WAS IMMEDIATELY ATTACKED FOR SAYING HE WANTED TO KEEP THE CENOTAPH.
AND EVERYBODY THAT HAD TACKED HIM WHERE THE PEOPLE I'VE BEEN MONITORING FOR MONTHS MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL DEMOCRAT PARTY.
AND THEY TOLD HIM THEY WERE GOING TO TELL EVERYONE HE WAS A RACIST AND ENCOURAGE THE ENTIRE COUNTY TO BOYCOTT HIM SO THAT HE WOULD LOSE HIS BUSINESS.
AND THEY WERE REVELING IN THE IDEA THAT SUCH A RACIST WAS GOING TO LOSE HIS BUSINESS.
THIS IS A POLITICAL PLOY BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN THIS COUNTY, THEY'VE ADMITTED IT JUST ABOUT ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.
THEY KNEW THAT WE WOULD STAND UP AND THAT WE WOULD PROTECT THINGS.
THEY WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE STOOD AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THERE WAS A WOMAN ON AN AREA, SUITE COUNSEL.
SHE'S A MEMBER OF A HISTORICAL ORGANIZATION THAT I BELONG TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE HISTORY.
SHE'S WORKING TO TAKE THAT CENOTAPH DOWN.
I HAVE SEEN SOME REALLY HATEFUL THINGS COME OUT OF HER MOUTH.
WELL, HER KEYBOARD ACTUALLY ON FACEBOOK.
AND I WAS VERY SURPRISED THAT SOMEONE LIKE THAT, SOMEONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING HER CITY WOULD BE SO HATEFUL TO PEOPLE CALLING PEOPLE NAMES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH HER, THAT THE CENOTAPH SHOULD COME DOWN.
THERE'S A LOT OF INTIMIDATION HERE AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO SPEAK UP.
AND YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU THINK THAT IT'LL GET PEOPLE TO OPEN UP.
I DON'T SEE THAT BECAUSE AS MANY PEOPLE AS I'VE TALKED TO THEY'VE TOLD ME HOW AFRAID THEY ARE.
THEY DON'T WANT A COMMITTEE TO KNOW THEIR NAMES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR JOBS.
IN FACT, THEY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR LIVES BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FOLLOW US.
WE'VE HAD THEM TAKE PICTURES OF US.
WE'VE HAD THEM TAKE PICTURES OF OUR LICENSE PLATES AND THEY HAVE FLAT OUT, TOLD US THEY'RE GOING TO COME AFTER US.
A FEW DAYS AGO, I SPOKE WITH A LADY AND HER HUSBAND WHO SAID THEY KEEP THEIR GUNS CLEANED, LOADED, AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THESE PEOPLE WILL KEEP THEIR PROMISE.
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THE DEMOCRAT PARTY BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM DALLAS.WE KNOW THEY WERE FROM DALLAS.
THEY TOLD US THEY WERE FROM DALLAS.
A YOUNG MAN HAD THE LITTLE ANARCHY SYMBOL ALL OVER HIS SHIRT, WHICH IS THE ANTIFA SYMBOL.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HERE WHO ARE SAYING ON FACEBOOK THAT IT'S OKAY TO DESTROY BUILDINGS BECAUSE THINGS CAN BE REPLACED PEOPLE.
PEOPLE CAN'T BE REPLACED, BUT YOU DON'T BURN DOWN THINGS.
YOU DON'T TEAR DOWN THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE ANGRY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT.
AND IF TAKING DOWN THESE MONUMENTS ACTUALLY DID ANYTHING, THEN WHY IN THE WORLD DID GEORGE FLOYD DIE IN THE FIRST PLACE MONUMENTS HAD BEEN GOING DOWN EVERYWHERE.
IN FACT, THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER, ONE OF THE LEADING ORGANIZATIONS WHO CLAIM THAT ANYBODY CONFEDERATE IS EVIL HAS SAID THAT THERE ARE NOT ANY CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS IN MINNESOTA.
SO HOW IS IT THAT A CONFEDERATE MONUMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH? HE CAN'T, CAN'T BE POSSIBLE.
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO LET THAT COMMITTEE GO FORWARD.
I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS THAT ALL YOU'RE TO GET IS THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE IS YOUNGER.
THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON FACEBOOK.
THEY COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYBODY ONLINE.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS TO STAY ARE OLDER.
AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY VETERANS OVER THE AGE OF 75 HAVE GONE OUT THERE.
I HAVE STOOD ON THE SQUARE, TALKING TO PEOPLE, GETTING SIGNATURES, AND THEY HAVE COME AND OFFERED TO STAND BY ME WITH A GUN TO PROTECT ME BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT IS.
YOU WILL BE SETTING A PRECEDENT TO ALLOW AN ARCHI TERRAIN.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE THAT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP THERE.
I KNOW IT WON'T STOP THERE BECAUSE THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD BY A PROFESSIONAL AGITATOR THAT CAME FROM DALLAS TO LAMAR COUNTY, WHERE I WAS PROTECTING THE SCENE ATTACK THERE.
AND HE TOLD ME FLAT OUT, HE WANTS EVERYTHING TAKEN DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY.
THAT IS THEIR GOAL, AND THEY ARE DOING IT.
WE CANNOT ALLOW OUR COUNTRY TO FALL INTO THIS.
THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING WILL BE FIXED BY THE MONUMENTS.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE BETTER WAYS AND LEAVE WHAT WE HAVE ALONE.
I WOULD ALSO REMIND YOU THAT NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE THE BALLOT VOTE AND THAT MOST OF EVERYBODY IN TEXAS WANTS OUR MONUMENTS PROTECTED.
THE 2018 TEXAS GOP PLATFORM HAS SEVERAL PLANKS ON IT THAT SAY THAT THE REPUBLICANS IN THIS STATE WILL PROTECT OUR HISTORY.
AND I KNOW THAT JUDGE, YOU RAN AS A REPUBLICAN.
I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT.
I MAKE MY CHOICES BASED ON WHAT I THINK IS BEST AND WHO I BELIEVE WILL BEST FILL A JOB, BUT I DO TEND TO LEAN REPUBLICAN FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING FOR SOMETHING, PEOPLE DO EXPECT YOU TO UPHOLD WHAT YOUR PARTY STANDS FOR.
I WISH MORE PEOPLE COULD BE HERE.
I WISH THEY WERE NOT SO AFRAID, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S POLITICALLY INCORRECT TO STAND UP FOR ANYTHING ANYMORE.
AND I'M AFRAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE INVITING A LOT MORE DISCORD AND A LOT MORE PROBLEMS IF YOU TAKE THIS DOWN.
SO I THINK WE GOT ALL THOSE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]
UH, I JUST KEPT ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.I DO HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO COVER.
WELL, THAT'S ALL THE CARDS THAT I HAD.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS PART OF THE AGENDA AND MOVE ON.
UM, AND A LETTER FROM SARAH CURTIS THAT, UH, OUR SHE'S OUR CHIEF APPRAISER,
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UH, UH, NOTIFYING US THAT, UH, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED TO ADOPT THE 2021 REAPPRAISAL PLAN ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2020 AT 5:00 PM AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OFFICE IN COFFIN.UH, SO THAT NOTICE SHALL BE THAT NOTICE WILL BE OUT THERE, BUT THAT, AGAIN, THAT, THAT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, HAVING TO DO WITH THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN.
I HAVE A NOTHER I'M FROM, UH, CONCERNING THE CENSUS.
THE CENSUS COUNT WILL END ON SEPTEMBER THE 30TH, UH, ANYONE WHO HAS NOT RESPONDED, OR IF YOU COULD ENCOURAGE YOUR NEIGHBORS TO RESPOND TO THE CENSUS.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT IS USED FOR, UM, DETERMINING HOW RESOURCES ARE DISTRIBUTED IN THE UNITED STATES.
NEXT ITEM, UH, JOHN POLLSTER DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVING.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? OKAY, NEXT
[4. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approving the Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Kaufman County and the City of Kaufman for the CR151 (Tabor Parkway) Project in the amount of $4,500,000.00.]
UP, UH, JOHN POLLSTER DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING THE INNER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN FOR A COUNTY ROAD, ONE 51, ALSO TAPER KNOWN AS TAPER PARKWAY PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF 4 MILLION, $500,000.GOOD MORNING, JOHN POLLSTER, INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS.
UH, AND AS A JUDGE REFERENCED, I'M HERE ON THE AGENDA.
ITEM FOUR, HOPEFULLY THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
THIS IS PART OF THE BOMB PACKAGE.
UH, AND THE CITY OF, UH, KAUFFMAN HAS EXECUTED THE AGREEMENT.
AND SO IT'S THE COUNTY'S TERM.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE COURT APPROVED THE INNER LOCAL AND, UH, BEGIN THE PROCESS QUESTIONS.
THEN LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN IS BRIEFED ON MIKE EMOTION.
WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[2. CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.UH, WE HAVE TWO ADAMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, WHAT DO YOU NEED THE COMMISSIONER'S CARE TO PULL ANY OF THOSE, THOSE TWO ITEMS OFF? OR DO YOU WANT TO, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.
[5. Peter Esposito; Discuss/Consider taking all appropriate action on the order calling a special election for the proposed incorporation of the of Town of Abies Springs, Kaufman County, Texas.]
DISCUSS, DISCUSS, CONSIDER TAKING ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE ORDER.CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE PROPOSED INCORPORATION OF THE TOWN OF ABEL SPRINGS, COFFIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
GOOD MORNING, MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
LET'S JUST A LITTLE NARRATIVE ON THE PROPOSAL FOR NOVEMBER 3RD.
I'M JUST HERE TO ENCOURAGE THE, UM, YOUR ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSAL, UH, TO PLACE THE ISSUE OF INCORPORATION OF THE TOWN OF ABEL SPRINGS ON THE NOVEMBER 3RD BALLOT.
UH, WE'RE WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MORE GOVERNMENT.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE PEOPLE OF ABLE SPRINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES AND MAKE SOME CHOICES AS TO HOW THAT AREA IS DEVELOPED WITHOUT THE INFLUENCE OF ANY OUTSIDE, UH, OUTSIDE TOWNS OR CITIES.
UH, GEORGE, IT'S A VERY, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE THING.
IT'S WHY I ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR THAT.
UH, I GOT HIM SECOND LIFT, TOTALLY UNRELATED SUBJECT.
I'M A CHICAGO YANKEE WHO MOVED DOWN HERE AND HAPPENED TO LOVE THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS A HISTORY.
AND IS UNLIKE ANY PLACE ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY? I THINK YOU AS COMMISSIONERS, I THINK ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF TEXAS NEED TO DO ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO PROTECT THE HISTORY OF TEXAS AND THE UNIQUENESS OF TEXAS.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ESPOSITO? IF NOT, UH, WHAT'S ON THE ASCA.
SO THE PEOPLE IN ABEL SPRINGS HAVE GOT TOGETHER AND ASKED FOR A LECTURE.
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YES, YES.SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST SAYING THAT CAN, I MEAN, DO WE CAN'T DO IT, CAN THEY DO IT? NO, WE HAVE TO ADD THE ELECTION PROCESSES UP TO THE COUNTY.
I JUST NEED TO BE EDUCATED ON HOW WE GOT THERE.
I, DELTA PEOPLE COULD DO IT THEMSELVES, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE GOT SOMETHING ELSE COMING UP HERE LATER.
THIS IS KIND OF THE SAME THING WHERE THE ELECTION CENTRAL FOR THE COUNTY, SOME LEARNING DEAL, IT'S JUST A LEARNING DEAL.
FOR WHAT WE HAVE ON HERE IS, UH, UH, DISCUSSING, CONSIDER LOOKING FOR EMOTION ON WHETHER OR NOT, UH, TO TAKE ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION ON TO ORDER A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE PROPOSING CORPORATION OR THE TOWN OF ABEL SPRINGS.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO PROVE THAT WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.
IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[6. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking all appropriate action on Order Calling the General Election for the purpose of electing County and Precinct Officers as required by Article XVI, Section 65 of the Texas Constitution,]
NEXT ITEM IS MINE DISCUSSED.CONSIDER TAKING ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION ON AN ORDER TO CALL THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING COUNTY AND PRECINCT OFFICERS AS REQUIRED BY ARTICLE 16, 665 OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.
JUST REALLY JUST SPOOLS UP OUR ELECTION CYCLE UPCOMING IN NOVEMBER OR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO TAKE ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION ON AN ORDER TO CALL THAT GENERAL ELECTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND SECOND, SAY FOR COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES
[7. Karen Badgley; Discuss/Consider/Approve Order Calling Election for Creation of the Kaufman County Assistance District No. 3 and Imposition of a Sales and Use Tax]
NEXT.WE HAVE KAREN BADGLEY, UH, DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVED CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION, KIND OF THE SAME THING.
COMMISSIONER HUNT, CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR CREATION OF THE COPLAND COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE AND IMPOSITION OF SALES AND USE TAX.
THIS IS BASICALLY WOULD BE FOR THE AREA AROUND COTTONWOOD.
AND THIS IS AN ORDER ASKING THAT THAT BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT, UM, FOR THE PEOPLE TO VOTE, TO CREATE A, UH, COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT IN THAT AREA.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS WAS REALLY A LOCAL INITIATIVE.
THIS IS A BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY LEADERSHIP IN COTTONWOOD, AND IT'S DESIGNED TO, TO SUPPORT THEIR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN ROADS AND, AND GENERATE SOME REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
DOES IT IMPACT ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY? EXACTLY QUESTIONS.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDER CALLING ELECTION FOR CREATION OF KAUFMAN COUNTY ASSISTANCE, DISTRICT NUMBER THREE? SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CASE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SO SEGMENT COMMISSIONER, BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT
[8. Karen Badgley; Discuss/Consider approving base salary amount for misdemeanor prosecutor position at $64,000.]
ITEM.KAREN BADGLEY DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING BASE SALARY MAIL FOR MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR POSITION AT $64,000.
AND IN THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE HAVE A MISDEMEANOR SECTION AND THAT SECTION HAS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE TURNOVER BECAUSE NORMALLY IT'S MORE OF AN ENTRY POINT WHERE SOMETIMES HAVE EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS THAT COME.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE YOUNGER ATTORNEYS.
AND SO THIS PAST YEAR THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS, WE, UM, HAVE THE SALARIES ARE A LITTLE OUT OF WHACK IN THAT SOME OF THE MORE EXPERIENCED, UM, PRIOR PROSECUTORS THAT ARE STILL THERE.
WE'RE BASICALLY MAKING LISTS THAT SOME OF THE YOUNGER ONES THAT CAME IN LATER.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO DO IS TO JUST DO A MINIMAL, UM, IT'LL BE A MINIMAL RAISE, BUT IT'S A SALARY EQUALIZATION THAT WOULD BASICALLY MAKE ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS JUST BE AT THE SALARY OF 64,000.
IT'S A VERY MINIMAL CHANGE FOR THE FOUR POSITIONS.
IT WILL COME AT A COST OF ABOUT $7,395.
WE'VE CLEARED ALL THAT WITH THE AUDITOR.
THE MONEY IS, IS THERE PLENTY OF MONEY TO PAY THAT? AND IT SHOULD BE, UM, THEY'RE ALSO ROLLING FORWARD AND WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THE COURTS APPROVED THAT IT WOULD BE ROLLING FORWARD, THAT'S A MINIMAL CHANGE FOR EACH OF THOSE FOUR PROSECUTORS THAT IT WOULD PUT THEM IN A POSITION OF THAT, THEIR SALARIES BEING EQUALIZED.
CAUSE THEY ALL DO THE SAME JOB, THE SAME POSITION.
AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL WOULD APPROVE THAT SALARY EQUALIZATION TODAY.
KAREN, I THINK THAT'S THE IMPACT IS ABOUT $10,000.
COULDN'T THE 7,500 IS THE SALARY IMPACT.
BUT YES, SIR, WE WANTED TO EXPLAIN, THAT'S NOT PER EMPLOYEE IS FOUR DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME POSITION, SAME TITLE, BUT THEY'RE AT DIFFERENT AMOUNTS, LIKE MAYBE 62,
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FIVE 63, TWO OR SOMETHING.AND WE'RE WANTING TO RAISE THEM TO THE 64 AND THERE IS MONEY IN THAT LINE ITEM TO DO THAT EARLY IN THEIR BUDGET.
CURRENTLY WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE WE GOT IT ADJUSTED CORRECTLY FOR THE NEW BUDGET.
IT'S NOT, WE HAVEN'T ACCOMMODATED FOR THE NEXT BUDGET, BUT THAT, BUT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, BUT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD IT WAS ENTIRE NOT JUST PER PERSON AND LIVE WE'D ASKED THAT IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD ASSUME IMMEDIATELY MEANS THAT THE NEXT PAYROLL CYCLE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAREN AND THAT'S THAT'S FUNDING'S AVAILABLE IN KANSAS.
I HAD THE BUDGET ALREADY FOR THIS FISCAL.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING APPROVING THE BASE SALARY AMOUNT FOR MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR POSITIONS AT $64,000 WHERE THAT MOTION WOULD COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? IS THERE A SECOND? NO.
SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[9. Eddy Daniel; Discuss/Consider Rose Hill SUD System Improvements and Submission of Consultation Form.]
NEXT EDDIE DANIEL DISCUSS CONSIDER ROSE HILL SAID ESPECIALLY UTILITY DISTRICT SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AND SUBMISSION FOR CONSULTATION FORM.IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WORTH BRIEFING.
I GOT A LETTER FROM, I THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.
THE ABILITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY.
UH, WE ARE THE ENGINEER FOR ROSE HILLS SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
UM, I OWN DBI ENGINEERS AND WE ARE MAKING AN APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF ROSE HILL, SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT FOR A COBANK BANK LOAN, BUT IT'S A USDA, RURAL DEVELOPMENT, GUARANTEED COBANK LOAN.
AND SO BECAUSE IT'S A GUARANTEED OR BACKED BY USDA, IT HAS TO HAVE A, AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
AND SO PART OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS TO GET INTER-GOVERNMENTAL COMMENTS OR INPUT.
AND SO ONE OF THOSE COMES TO THE COMMISSIONERS, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR A ROUTINE REVIEW.
UM, THESE ALSO GO TO US FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND, UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
IT'S A TYPICAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE PROJECT THAT ROSE HILL IS PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT IS A CONNECTION TO NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT OVER CLOSE TO TERRELL.
UM, IT'LL BE ON COUNTY ROAD THREE OH FIVE AND INCLUDES A TRANSMISSION LINE, A TYPE POINT AND SOME WATER DISTRIBUTION LINE.
SO IT'S FAIRLY ROUTINE PROJECT FOR THEM, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A WATER PROJECT.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU CAN DO.
THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU'RE GOING TO RESPOND.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY FILL OUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND SEND IT BACK IN A IT'S IN THE PACKET THAT YOU RECEIVED.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, YES, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, I DO HAVE SOME PROPOSED ANSWERS TO THOSE THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU OR IT'S UP TO YOU.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LITTLE INTERESTING, THE WAY THEY'RE WORDED IS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING, BUT, UM, OR YOU CAN SIMPLY JUST SAY WE, WE CHOOSE NOT TO SEND ANYTHING IN AND AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, THEY'LL JUST ASSUME YOU HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO IT.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD SEEM THE MORE LOGICAL COURSE TO ME.
I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW WE WOULD HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
JUST NOT RESPOND AND LET IT, UH, TAKE PLACE.
DO YOU ANYBODY LEGAL SIDE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE ONLY CONCERNS I HAD WAS JUST CONNECTING YOU WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY ROAD WORK DONE ALONGSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS KIND OF COORDINATED BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICE.
YES, THESE PROJECTS WILL BE DONE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, ON PRIVATE EASEMENTS.
AND SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUST CROSSINGS ROAD CROSSINGS, ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT WE ALSO KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO WE'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES.
WHEN YOU SAY CROSSING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST PHYSICAL CROSSINGS? IS THE WATER LINES GOING TO THE WATER LINE, A BORING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE WATER LINE WILL BORE UNDER A COUNTY ROAD OR SO THAT DOES INVOLVE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.
MOST OF WHAT WE DO HERE, IT'S STILL INVOLVED WOULDN'T THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS REGARDLESS HOW IT'S FUNDED.
CAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO, BUT WE'RE UNDER THE ROAD, SO IT WILL COME TO US.
WE HAVE NOT YET PREPARED PLANS WHERE THIS IS THE EARLY STAGES OF SEEKING THE LOAN.
WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT.
ONCE ALL OF THAT'S DONE, THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY PREPARE PLANS AND BE READY TO GO.
IF I HAD TO GUESS THIS PROJECT WILL BE UNDERWAY LIGHT MAYBE TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR.
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SO, UH, REBECCA THERE'S NO, THERE'S REALLY, NO ACTION REQUIRED FROM US ON THE ASS.IF WE'RE JUST GONNA, WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT AND IT WILL BE ASSUMED THAT WE ARE, UH, THAT WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
AND SO IF WE DO THAT, THEN THERE'S REALLY NO ACTION CALL FOR IN THIS ITEM.
NO JUDGE, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T BE EMOTION REQUIRED OR ANYTHING.
JUDGE THE NORMAL ACTION WITH COUNTIES WHEN WE DO THESE AROUND THE STATE IS NO ACTION JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.
AND SO THEY TAKE NO ACTION TO TRY TO, TO, SO UNLESS ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OBJECT, WE'LL JUST PASS ITEM NINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION.
[10. Sheriff Beavers; Present/Accept the Sheriff's Office monthly report.]
NEXT STEP, ADAM TAN, SHERIFF BEAVERS PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE.THE SHERIFFS MONTHLY REPORT MORNING JUDGE CAN MAKE A REALLY GOOD BALANCE.
I'VE HAD YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UH, FAR AS, UH, THE REPORT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK A FEW THINGS I'LL TOUCH ON TODAY'S POPULATION IS FOUR 13.
UH, AS YOU ARE AWARE OF WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE JAIL, OUR NUMBERS WERE PRETTY HIGH.
WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ROOM FOR QUARANTINE TO TRY TO MEET OUR DEMANDS.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, SINCE, UH, MARCH 13TH, WE STARTED QUARANTINE.
EVERYBODY COMING IN THE BACK DOOR, WE STARTED TAKING TEMPERATURE AND EVERYBODY'S WEARING MASK.
UH, SO WE'VE KEPT IT DOWN UNTIL OUR POPULATION GOT PRETTY HIGH.
I'LL TELL YOU NOW WE'VE GOT SIX CASES PENDING OR SIX POSITIVE CASES.
AND THE JAIL WAS ZERO PENDING TESTING AND WE HAVE 144 INMATES IN QUARANTINE.
I CANNOT COMMAND OUR STAFF ON WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ON KEEPING THIS UNTIL THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS GOT SO HIGH AND QUARANTINE WAS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
SO WE'VE MOVED SOME INMATES OUT, OUT OF THE US MARSHALS.
UH, THEY MOVED OUT 30 AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA MOVE OUT 20 AND ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO GIVE US ROOM FOR QUARANTINE.
I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ROOM TO MOVE THEM.
UH, SO CAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY PROVEN THAT, THAT WE HAD ZERO CASES WHEN WE COULD QUARANTINE.
AND THEN WE WOUND UP GETTING A FEW CASES WHEN, UH, WE COULDN'T QUARANTINE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE TO, TO MEET THAT NEED.
AND I THINK, UH, THE MEDICAL STAFF AND OUR JAIL STAFF HAS JUST LIKE SAY VERY COMMENDABLE.
I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO CAUSE THEY THEY'RE WHAT MAKES IT HAPPEN.
AND THEY WORK IN VERY HARD IN ALL OF OUR, CAUSE.
I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S CHANGING DAY TO DAY, OUR PROTOCOLS, Y'ALL ALL KNOW YOU SEE THEM ALL THE TIME.
SO WE'RE CHANGING ALL THE TIME.
SO THE STAFF IS DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
FAR AS THE REGULAR NUMBERS, YOU SEE SOME STUFF IS DOWN THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEAL.
THERE'S REALLY NO BIG VARIANCE.
HE'S UH, I MEAN ANYTHING EVEN FOR SOME MONEY REPORT, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS SOME QUESTIONS OUT TO CINE.
ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT? RIGHT.
UH, SO WHAT'S BEFORE US WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT FROM COMMISSIONER BORROWERS OR SECOND I'LL SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[11. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider approving interlocal agreement between Kaufman County and the City of Cottonwood for road maintenance, projects and repairs.]
COMMISSIONER CAGE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING YOUR LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE PROJECT AND REPAIRS COMMISSIONER.THIS WAS JUST OUR RENEWAL OF OUR INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD AND ENABLES US TO, UM, HELP THEM MAINTAIN THEIR TWO PRINCIPAL ROADS IN THEIR CITY LIMITS FOR DUE COMPENSATION.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT BOTH THE PROJECT AGREEMENT AND THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BE APPROVED.
I THINK WE DO THE PROJECT AGREEMENT ON THE NEXT ITEM.
SO THIS ITEM CAN, CANNOT MEET YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
SO WE HAVE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER CAGE TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
IS THERE A SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES THEN COMMISSIONER
[12. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/ Consider approving project agreement for the City of Cottonwood to blade the incorporated/public road section surfaces of County Road 4083 and County Road 4084 two times per month.]
WOULD GO NOW TO THE SAME, SAME DEAL ONLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT AGREEMENT.WE APPROVE THE PROJECT AGREEMENT.
UH, SIMILARLY, SIMILARLY RELATED TO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS OR WE HAVE A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? HAVE WE HAVE MOTION OF COMMISSIONER CAGE? SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER BARBER MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM 13,
[13. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider amending Kaufman County Subdivision and Land Development Regulations Section 11.04, Driveway Culverts Processing and Standards "Culvert Policy."]
COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSS CONSIDER AMENDING KAUFMAN COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, SECTION 1104, TRAVELING CULVERTS PROCESSING AND STANDARDS COVERT POLICY COMMISSIONER.SO THIS IS, UH, JUST A, UH, UH, A REDOING OF A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM THAT WE HAD THAT WE, UH, TABLED AND, UM, WITH THE HELP
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OF OUR, UH, CIVIL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS REWORKED, UH, IT WAS A, THIS WAS A NEEDED ADJUSTMENT TO THE LAND REGULATIONS, UH, OF THE COUNTY.IT, UH, VERY CLEARLY SPECIFIES, UH, THE, THE PARAMETERS OF THE COUNTY'S AUTHORITY OVER, UH, IT'S ESSENTIALLY IT'S BAR DITCH RIGHT AWAY.
UM, IT STILL ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMPLETE DISCRETION, UM, WITH REGARD TO MAINTAINING AND, UH, SERVICING THOSE, THOSE, UH, STORM DRAINAGE FACILITIES.
SO I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS, THAT THIS AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE REGS BE APPROVED.
UH, WE HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVING THAT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND RIGS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? UH, WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER IN CASE A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES
[14. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider appointing an Elected Official to serve on the Common Vision Board.]
ITEM 14.DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SERVE ON THE COMMON VISION BOARD, UH, TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.
UH, WE ARE A PARTICIPANT IN THE TRINITY TRINITY RIVER COMMON VISION.
UM, THE REASON THAT WE JOINED AND THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR AWHILE, THE REASON THAT WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THAT IS IT GIVES US ACCESS TO CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND FEMA, UH, MAPPING AND STATISTICAL DATA IN HOPES THAT WE COULD, UM, THE GOAL OF THIS ORGANIZATION IS TO MANAGE, UH, FLOODPLAIN AND STORMWATER, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH THE TRINITY RIVER BASIN.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER CATES HAS GONE TO A COUPLE OF THESE MEETINGS.
CERTAINLY HIS PRECINCT IS REALLY THE ONLY ONE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EFFECT ON PRECINCT, TINY BIT ON PRECINCT TWO, BUT REALLY IT'S ALL MOSTLY PRECINCT FOUR THAT'S AFFECTED BY THE WORK THAT COMMON VISION IS DOING.
SO, UH, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION AND IN THE PERSON TO SERVE ON THE VISION BOARD, THEY'VE ASKED US TO SUBMIT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD.
UH, IT HAS TO BE, IT CAN'T BE AN APPOINTED PERSON.
SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT COMMISSIONER CAGE TO SERVE ON THE COMMON VISION BOARD.
THAT'S MY EMOTION IS HER SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
[15. Judge Bardin; Discus/Consider purchase of FbF LiveScan Criminal 10-Print System with GreenBit 84c 10-Print Fingerprint Scanners utilizing the Justice Court Technology and Assistance Fund.]
NOW JUDGE BARDEN DISCUSS CONSIDERED PURCHASE OF FBF LIVE SCAN CRIMINAL TIN PRINT SYSTEM WITH GUN.WHAT ALL THIS MEANS WHERE THE GREEN BIN, 84
I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF APPLYING.
WE ARE ASKING TO PURCHASE FOUR OF THEM, ONE FOR EACH PRECINCT.
UM, LAST YEAR, SEPTEMBER ONE AND NEW LAW WENT INTO EFFECT THAT REQUIRED IN JUSTICE COURT.
ANYONE THAT WAS, UM, HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH AN ASSAULT OR AN ASSAULT FAMILY VIOLENCE TO BE FINGERPRINTED.
THOSE FINGERPRINTS HAVE TO BE SENT TO S UM, AND IT'S, WE'RE QUIET, REQUIRED TO DO IT.
NONE OF MY CLERKS WERE HIRED TO BE FINGERPRINT EXPERTS.
UM, MY CONSTABLE'S OFFICE RARELY DOES FINGERPRINTS.
WE CAN'T TRUST THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO LEAVE COURT.
THEY HAVE TO APPEAR IN OPEN COURT.
WE CAN'T TRUST THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO LEAD COURT AND GO SOMEWHERE TO GET THOSE FINGERPRINTS DONE FOR US.
I TASKED, UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON WITH THE TASK OF LOOKING INTO AND, AND CONTACTING DPS TO SEE IF WHAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR SYSTEM.
THIS IS WHAT THEY, THIS IS THE UNITS THAT THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE PURCHASE.
THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR SYSTEMS. WE CAN SEND THE FINGERPRINTS ELECTRONICALLY DIRECTLY TO THEM AND THEREBY WE ARE FULFILLING OUR STATUTORY DUTY.
UM, SO I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT $30,000 AND SOME CHANGE.
UM, NORMALLY IF IT WAS A SMALL PURCHASE THAT WOULDN'T COME TO YOU AND ASK YOU NECESSARILY NECESSARILY TO BLESS IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE MAL, I'M ASKING YOU TO PURCHASE TO LET US PURCHASE ONE FOR EACH JUSTICE COURT, UH, OUT OF THE JUSTICE COURT TECHNOLOGY AND ASSISTANCE PLAN, MADAM AUDITOR, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH.
AND ALL FOUR JPS, ALTHOUGH I'M HERE REPRESENTING ALL FOUR, BUT JUDGE ADAMS IS HERE AS WELL.
WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO DO THAT AS WELL.
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I'LL TELL YOU NOW WITH THE LIVE SCAN, WELL, WE'VE HAD IT IN THE JAIL FOR YEARS.UH, THE BEST THING ABOUT IT IS THE QUALITY OF FINGERPRINTS.
YOU MIGHT SURE THERE, LIKE HE HAD AUSTIN AND IT'S 100% GUARANTEED.
IF IT'S NOT QUALITY BRAND, IT'LL NEVER GO THROUGH.
SO THAT WAY WE'RE GETTING ACCURATE GOOD CRIMINAL HISTORIES OR DATA TO THEM, WHICH IMPACTS EVERYTHING FROM HOMELAND SECURITY TO BUY FIREARMS AND EVERYTHING.
DO YOU DO INK FINGERPRINTS ANYMORE? WE DO A VERY FEW FOR PEOPLE COMING IN THAT HAS TO HAVE THEIR FINGERPRINTS, BUT THAT'S BEING FOREIGN IN BETWEEN ANYMORE.
IF, IF WE FINGERPRINT YOU, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE BANK AND HAVE A CRIMINAL CHARGE.
SO WE CAN'T HARDLY DO ANYBODY UNLESS YOU JUST WANT HIM.
CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM OUT FRONT TO SEND AUSTIN.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THEY TRULY NEED THEY'LL DO AWAY WITH ALL RIGHT.
BE A LITTLE WEIRD PRECINCT TOO.
THEY'RE SITTING IN THERE AND THEY DO THEM OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
HE SAID, YEAH, THIS IS A GOOD THING.
IS IT GOING TO BE ON YOUR CLERKS OR YOUR CONSTABLES? WE'LL DO IT.
I CAN'T EXPECT MY CLERKS EVEN TO DO WITH THAT.
AND I DID CONTACT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY HAVE.
OF COURSE WE DIDN'T NEED ANYTHING ON THE SCALE THEY HAVE BECAUSE YES, IT'S LIKE $57,000 FOR ME.
AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH ODYSSEY.
THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL US ABOUT IT.
SO WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO PROBLEM.
AND HERE IS A YEARLY MAINTENANCE FEE ON THEM AND IT'S ABOUT $999 A YEAR.
THIS FIRST YEAR IS BUILT INTO THE PRICE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, BUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S FOR ALL FOUR, IT'S NOT FOR HOW LARGE ARE THESE USE THOSE THEY'RE CHARGING YOU $200 TO SHIP THEM.
WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
AND THE COMMISSIONER BARBER THAT'S OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NO, IT'S A GOOD THING.
THEN LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PURCHASE OUT OF THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY FUND AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, WITH THE EMOTIONAL PERMISSION PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THAT WAS, OH, I GET THOSE GUYS MIXED UP ALL THE TIME SO THAT THEY, YEAH.
SO THE MOTION WAS FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
THE SECOND WAS FROM COMMISSIONER KATE'S THIS MIRROR BROWN, THE TALL GOOD LOOKING OR DISCUSSION THAT WAS IN FACT, HER SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT POTION CARRIES THAT.
[16. Brenda Samples; Discuss/Consider approval for Tax Assessor-Collector to collect for Kaufman County Public Improvement District #1.]
MIXED UP.UH, BRING THE SAMPLES, DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR DID COLLECT COFFIN COUNTY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
NUMBER ONE WHEN SHE GETS THROUGH HUGGING ON THE JUDGE OVER THERE.
UH, WE'VE WHAT WE'VE GOT BEFORE IS TODAY IS, UH, THE PRECINCT, WELL, KAUFMAN HAS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
NUMBER ONE THAT THEY'RE WANTING US TO COLLECT FOR THIS IS ON AN ASSESSMENT TYPE SITUATION, NOT ON THE PER $100.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU TODAY AND ILA ON THAT.
WE'RE JUST KIND OF A STANDARD ROUTINE, CAUSE WE'RE, I GUESS WE'RE COLLECTING TAXES FOR EVERYBODY.
AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT OVER IN TERRELL WITH THE MARKET CENTER AND CROSSROADS.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS SAMPLES? A PERCENTAGE OR ANYTHING OF THAT? A LITTLE BIT.
UH, IF FOR NO OTHER QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TAX ASSESS YOU'RE COLLECTING FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER HUNT.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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ADD MOTION[17. Brenda Samples; Discuss/Consider approval of the 2020 Help America Vote Act (HAVA) Election Security Sub-Grant to Texas Counties.]
CARRIES NEXT AGAIN.BRENDA SAMPLES DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE 2020 HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT ELECTION SECURITY SUB GRANT TO TEXAS COUNTIES.
WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS THE HAVO WE CALL IT, UH, HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT.
IT'S A SECURITY, IT'S A SUB GRANT TO THE TEXAS COUNTIES.
IT WILL REQUIRE, UM, A FEE FROM THE COUNTY OF $16,000, BUT WE'VE GOT $120,000.
WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING, AND THIS HAS TO GO STRICTLY FOR ELECTIONS AND THAT TYPE THING, UH, SOME OF THE COSTS, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT GETTING OR A KIOSK MAYBE TO HELP, HELP WITH, UH, THE VOTERS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM.
AND UH, MAYBE SECURITY CAMERAS IN THE BUILDING WITH, WITH THE ELECTION EQUIPMENT AND, UM, THE SWAT THINGS THAT WE KNOW WHO COMES AND GOES OUT OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND UH, ABOUT, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE BALLOT PRINTING ROOM.
AND I KNOW WHAT HE NEEDED TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT THE CAMERAS.
UM, AND THEN, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE UP A LOT OF THE MONEY.
IT WOULD TAKE UP A LOT OF MONEY THERE.
THERE'S A $16,000 MATCH, IS IT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND THE AUDITOR NOT TALKED ABOUT THE MATCH, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM NOW.
OH, MS. SAMPLES IS GONNA LET US USE SOME OF HER TRAVEL AND TRAINING BUDGET.
SO YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER THAT.
WE USE THAT BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
NO, WE'RE NOT, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED ANY MORE TRAINING TRAVEL.
SO, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRENDA ABOUT THAT? NO, ALL WE'RE DOING IS APPROVING THE, UH, GRANT APPLICATION ACTUALLY.
UH, SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT HAVA GRANT APPLICATION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHERE THE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER BARBERS ARE.
SECOND I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.
[18. Desiree Pool; Discuss/Consider approving Memorandum of Understanding between Kaufman County Indigent Health Care Program and ENT Allergy Center of Texas for an individual inmate Medicare rates,]
CONSIDERING IMPROVING.DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY INOGEN HEALTHCARE PROGRAM AND THE E N T O ALLERGY CENTER OF TEXAS AND GENTLEMEN THIS MORNING.
UH, WE HAVE AN INMATE THAT HAD AN EXISTING CONDITION WHEN SHE CAME IN AND UM, WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SIMPLER JUST TO CONTINUE WITH THE DOCTOR THAT SHE WAS SEEING.
UM, SHE'S NEEDING TO HAVE SURGERY.
UM, I CALLED THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY DO NOT ACCEPT MEDICAID, BUT WE DID NEGOTIATE MEDICARE.
SO I JUST NEED TO GET THIS MOU APPROVED.
UM, FOR THAT REBECCA HAS LOOKED OVER IT.
SHE MADE CHANGES WHERE WE NEEDED TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN ORDER.
YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
THEN, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WHEN A CALL FROM COUNTY AND THE ENT ALLERGY CENTER, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CAGE, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I TALKED TO THE HOSPITAL THIS MORNING.
THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE MEDICAID RATES.
[19. Desiree Pool; Present/Accept the Indigent Health Care Quarterly Report.]
UH, SO DOES A WAY AGAIN, TO PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE, HER INDIGENT HEALTHCARE, QUARTERLY REPORT.UM, THERE'S JANUARY AND MARCH, JANUARY THROUGH MARCH IN THERE.
I DIDN'T GET TO DO THE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THAT.
CAUSE THAT'S WHEN ALL THE COVID STUFF STARTED.
UM, SO NOTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF JUST KIND OF GOING ACROSS THE BOARDS, YOU KNOW, EVENLY.
SO NOTHING REALLY GOING CRAZY RIGHT NOW.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF IT'S GOT TO DO WITH THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AS BEING, YOU KNOW, CLOSED FOR SO LONG.
AND UM, THEY'RE HAVING TO DO, YOU KNOW, CALLS OVER THE PHONE OR THROUGH THE INTERNET OR HOWEVER THEY DO IT WEBSITE.
UM, BUT MY NUMBERS ARE KIND OF STAYING BASICALLY THE SAME.
NOTHING'S REALLY GOING UP OR DOWN RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DESERT RAY'S REPORT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE INDIGENT HEALTHCARE QUARTERLY REPORT? SO MOVE, HAVE THAT MOVE THAT MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER CASE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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THANK YOU.[20. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider TexasBit contract for road construction at Chambless / CR 4031 in the amount of $257,366.40 and CR 4061 in the amount of $116,452.91; utilizing RFP 20-03 for Precinct #4.]
NEXT UP.OR MS. SMITH DISCUSSED CONSIDERED TEXAS BIG CONTRACT FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION OF CAN'T REMEMBER 40 31 FOR TWO 57, THREE 66 AND COUNTY ROAD FOUR OH SIX ONE FOUR 116, FOUR 52.
THESE ARE TWO ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WILL BE PAID OUT OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AS FAR AS JUST THE ROAD MATERIALS, THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED IN PRECINCT FOUR QUESTIONS.
YES, MA'AM UH, FOR NO QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE TWO CONTRACT AMOUNTS? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE A MOTION COMMISSIONER AND KATE'S IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES
[21. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider the purchase of a KOMATSU GD655-6 2020in the amount of $260,120.64; utilizing Buyboard Contract #597-19 for Precinct #4.]
ITEM 21 BACK TO RAYLAND DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF A KOMATSU DD SIX 55 DASH SIX IN THE AMOUNT OF $260,120 USING THE BOB BOARD CONTRACT FIVE 97 DASH 19.THIS WILL BE A FINANCING FOR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THE FIRST PAYMENT IS NOT DUE UNTIL JANUARY, 2021.
SO IT WILL ACTUALLY BE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE WOULD TAKE DELIVERY.
WHO'S BRANDY HAS IT'S KIRBY SMITH BANK.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
UH, WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONED CAGE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE A SECOND I'LL SECOND, SECOND PERMISSION OR PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES LAST ONE FOR REGULAR
[22. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider the sale of county-owned property pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 263.152(a)(1); Asset #12831 - 2016 Dodge Charger Pursuit, to the City of Crandall for an amount at Fair Market Value.]
AND DISCUSS CONSIDER SALE OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT GO TO 63, ONE 52.IT'S A 2016 JARRED DODGE CHARTER PURSUIT.
THE CITY OF CRANDALL FAIR MARKET VALUE.
AS THE CITY OF CRANDALL IS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING OUR 2016 DODGE CHARGER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO CONSTABLE FOR, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE GO IN AND REMOVE THE DECALS AND THESE VEHICLES ARE REALLY HARD TO FUND RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY REACHED OUT TO US.
I DID GET A QUOTE FROM ENTERPRISE FINANCIAL, WHO IS OUR FLEET MANAGEMENT.
AND SO WE WOULD JUST, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THEIR ESTIMATED WHOLESALE VALUE AS THE PRICE THAT THE CITY OF GREENVILLE COULD PURCHASE THE CAR FROM.
RIGHT? UM, THE WHOLESALE IS 12,500 AND WE WOULD DO A BILL OF SALE AND TITLE WORK.
ONCE THE DECALS ARE REMOVED QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT THAT SALE OF COUNTY EQUIPMENT I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION? THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER ON CASES OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
[23. Discuss/Consider line item transfers.]
23, DISCUSS, CONSIDER A LINE ITEM OR TRANSFERS.THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU EARLIER FOR YOU TO REVIEW THE ONLY ONES I'D CALL ATTENTION TO.
UM, AND I KNOW THE COUNTY JUDGE WILL APPRECIATE THIS ONE, UH, WAS FOR A SCHOOL, CLOSED OUT THE SRO FOR FORNEY, UH, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME OF THOSE OFFICERS DID NOT STAY WITH THE COUNTY.
THEY WENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I CHARGED THEM FOR ALL THEIR TIME ON THE BOOKS AND THEY DIDN'T QUESTION IT.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF COMP TIME, I GUESS, BUILT.
WE HAD ABOUT $45,000 TO ADD TO THE CONTINGENCY LINE ON THEM BECAUSE OF THAT.
THEN THE OTHER ONE IS I CLOSED OUT THE CLAIMANT'S RANCH CONTRACT BECAUSE WE WERE SITTING OUT THERE WITH EXPENSIVE EXPENDITURES.
WE WEREN'T GOING TO SPAN AND REVENUES.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT OTHER, OKAY.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE? I DON'T TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND WERE COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[24. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]
UH, NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSED.CLAIMS DISCUSSING CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
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FOR PAYMENT ARE 4 MILLION, $496,390 AND 47 CENTS 1,000,005 WAS FOR ROAD BOND.THE 2014 16 ROAD BOND, UH, EXPENDITURES THEN EMPLOYEE INSURANCE IS ABOUT ALMOST 600,000 AND THEN ROAD MATERIALS OF ALMOST 500,000.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON BILLS? NO.
MA'AM THEN YOU HAD A PAYROLL OF 1,000,320 3,700 2145.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND WERE COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[25. Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter into an executive session.]
CARRIES.CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO, UH, LEAVE OUR MEETING AND GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I'LL MAKE UP EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND? HOW SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONED CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[26. Executive Session; Pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to consider pending or contemplated litigation subjects or settlement offers. The following cases/subjects may be discussed: Kaufman County v. Purdue Pharma, et al - Cvi Act on No. 3:18-CV-02270; John Sullivan v. Kaufman County, tbd; Mott v. Grimes - Cause No. 3:20.CV-1160-M-BN; Todd Michael Tomase la v. Oivtslon of Child Support, et al Case No. 3:20-CV 00476 * Mitchell v Kaufman County et al- Cau*e No. 105110-422 * Lassiterv. Kaufman County etal-Cause No. 100368-CC2 Laird v. Kaufman County et al. Cause No. 10459-CC 'Potential injunct on for flood plain issues at gun club]
OKAY.SO IF YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU CAN MOVE ON, UH, PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE, FIVE, 1.07.
ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO CONSIDER PENDING CON PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION SUBJECT FOR SETTLEMENT OFFERS.
THE FOLLOWING CASES WILL BE DISCUSSED, UH, PURDUE PHARMA, UH, JOHN SULLIVAN, BEDROOM BOYS, UH, MARK VERSUS GRIMES, MICHAEL TOMASELLO TOMASIA MICHAEL OR MITCHELL VERSUS KAUFMAN COUNTY LASTED A VS.
CALL FROM COUNTY LAYERED VERSUS CALL FROM COUNTY AND POTENTIAL INJUNCTION FOR FLOOD ON ISSUES AT A GUN CLUB.
[27. Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into regular meeting.]
DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED ACTING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.ENTER BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THOSE, A FAVOR OF GOING BACK INTO REGULAR SESSIONS SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, SPEAK UP ALONE COMMISSIONER HUNT, WHERE YOU COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A BUDGET WORKSHOP.
WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS. WHERE'S JERRY.
UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO TAKE A SHORT FIVE MINUTES.
[28. Workshop - To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Budget.]
WHERE, UH, WE, SO WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A BUDGET, A LITTLE BIT OF BUDGET WORK TO DO I'LL I'LL JUST KIND OF KICK IT OFF A LITTLE BIT.JERRY, HE'S GOING TO WALK US THROUGH PAGE BY PAGE, BUT, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THESE YELLOW, UH, TABS OVER HERE IN THE, THE ONLY ONES I THINK THAT ARE PARTICULARLY RELEVANT.
UH, THESE ARE A LOT OF THESE ARE JUST CHANGES WHERE, UH, WE'RE UH, JERRY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THEY'RE MAKING CORRECTIONS WHERE THERE JUST BEEN ERRORS AND THINGS.
AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE, BUT I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON IS THERE ARE SOME OPEN ITEMS THAT REQUIRE DECISIONS BY US, AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE RED PRINT.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF PAGES HERE, BUT THERE'S ONLY ABOUT FIVE OR SIX PAGES THAT ARE PARTICULARLY, THAT REALLY ARE PARTICULARLY RELEVANT.
SO JERRY, TAKE IT AWAY PAGE BY PAGE, START HIGH LEVEL, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE SET THE TAX RATE.
SO HAVING SET THE TAX RATE AND WE'VE GOT THE CERTIFIED ROWS, UM, FROM THE TAX OFFICE.
SO ALL OF THAT'S BEEN TRUED UP.
SO ADD LAUREN OR YOUR HEAD OF THE LOWER TAXES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED.
SO YOU'LL SEE A SMALL LITTLE ADJUSTMENT.
THOSE ARE JUST PIECES OF DECIMAL POINTS AS WE ROLL THINGS OUT.
UH, THE FIRST REAL ITEM THAT'S UP.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW THE FIRE MARSHALL IS HERE.
UM, I THINK WE GO AHEAD AND WE CAN JUST DISCUSS HIS NOW TO GET TO GET THAT WENT UP.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE PAGE FOUR, YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT TRANSFER FROM HER FILE CODE FUND 49.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT SET AT $75,400.
WHAT THE FIRE MARSHALL IS ASKING FOR.
HE'S EIGHT, HE'S ASKING TO FUND $23,000 WORTH OF INCREASES OUT OF HIS FIRE CODE FUND.
UH, AND THERE'S KIND OF SPELLED OUT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO HIS PAGE, BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THERE'S REALLY NO NET IMPACT
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TO THIS BUDGET.OTHER THAN I WOULD RE I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE THE MONEY THIS DOWN IN HIS FIRE.
CO-FUND IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED AND I WOULD MOVE IT UP HERE, THE $23,000.
AND THAT WOULD MAKE THE NET NET OF IT ZERO.
SO ALL THAT CERTAINLY THAT'S FAR MORE SO HE NEEDS TO SPEAK OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT THAT'S THE ASK.
SO THAT'S AN OPEN SWITCH AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COURT WOULD APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE.
AND IF SO, I'D JUST MAKE, I WOULD MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT AND THE, IN THE SALARIES, I MEAN, THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S DOES THAT SALARY INCREASE THAT WHAT THAT IS AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S OKAY TO TAKE IT OUT OF THAT FUND AND FOR THAT, CAUSE THEY'RE ALL FIRE MARSHALS OR WHATEVER.
I'M GONNA JUST ASK IT AND MAKE SURE THAT YEAH.
IT'S IT'S PAGE 37 OF THIS WORKBOOK IS THE, IS THE DETAIL BEHIND THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THE NET NET TO FIT TO THIS WORKING BUDGET WOULD BE ZERO.
I ALREADY HAD THE MONEY IN HIS POWER COAT FUND.
SO IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, THEN I NEED TO PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN AS FAR AS CODE.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS LATER DOWN THE LINE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IS THE FIRE CODE IS GOING TO REPLENISH ITSELF.
THERE'S NO DANGER THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE HAVING TO COME OUT OF THE BUDGET TO PAY THE SUPPLEMENTAL PLAN.
THERE'S A TON OF MONEY IN THE FIRE CODE FUND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, UH, I MEAN, THERE'S NO DANGER OF IT DISAPPEARING DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE HAVE TO ABSORB THAT IN THE SHORT TERM, AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, IF OUR DEVELOPMENT STOPS AND THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE FINALLY SLOW DOWN ON THE FIRE.
NO, I MEAN, YEAH, SO WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE, THIS IS GONNA GO ON FOR YEARS.
LIKE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING, TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE FIRE CODE FUND TO PAY FOR STEP PAY.
WE'RE ALREADY TAKING SOMETHING YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT.
I MEAN IT REPLENISHES ITSELF AND WE CAN LOOK DOWN THE ROAD.
WELL, IT IS, IT IS REPLENISHING ITSELF, BUT IT'S ALSO GOT A LOT OF MONEY.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE COUNTY THAT'S PARKED IN ALL THESE SPECIAL FUNDS.
THAT REALLY COULD BE ONE, BUT YEAH, PROBABLY BE IN THE GROUND.
BUT AS IT COMES UP, WE GOT TO COME UP WITH $50,000.
ALL OF A SUDDEN OVERNIGHT IT IS THE FAR MARSHALL'S POSITIONS ARE NOT PART OF THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD THAT IN IT.
I DON'T THINK ANY, ANY PEACE OFFICER WAS THEM THOUGH.
AND WE DID, WE TOLD THEM TO TAKE OUT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT, CAUSE THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO DETERMINE IF THE COURT WAS GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN THINGS INCLUDED ALREADY.
SO I'VE NOT RECEIVED BACK FROM ONE, BUT I HAD THE WHITE LOOPY COUNTY GET 166,000 BUCKS, ELLIS COUNTY PARKER COUNTY GO COUNTY.
AND, UH, OF COURSE DENTON COUNTY JUST BECAUSE OF WORK WITH THEM, BUT THEY HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD REPORT AGAINST THEM.
BUT, UM, AS A COMPARISON, OUR START DATE IS 47 OH NINE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THAT SUPPLEMENTAL BUDDY IN THE BARK OF THE 5,000, WHICH IF THEY MAINTAIN OR ACQUIRE ALL THREE LICENSED POLICE OFFICER, THE CERTIFICATION FOR FIRE INSPECTOR CERTIFICATION FOR A FIRE INVESTIGATOR, THEN THEY 5,000 PER YEAR GOT LOCKED UP.
THEY SALVIA THE HILL HALL THREE, SORRY.
THAT WOULD BRING THEM UP TO 52.
IT'S A COMPARISON GUADALUPE COUNTY POPULATION OF 166,000 THERE STARK LABOR.
AND AT THE TIME HE DID NOT HAVE THE TOP OUT PEN FOR ME, BUT HE DID SAY THAT IN ADDITION TO THE PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATION OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS MONTH FOR THE INCENTIVE, THEY ALSO DO THE SAME THING.
SO LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T START ON THIS UNTIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
I JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THERE TO MAKE IT REAL, REAL GOOD.
UH, COUNTY STARTS OUT IN 58, ONE 55, LIKE TOP OUT AT 80, 72 33.
AND THAT TOP OUT ISN'T A, IT'S A SIX YEAR PERIOD IS A COMPARISON STARTING AT 47.
I POP OUT WITH THE FULL AMOUNT OF POLICE OFFICER PLATE AFTER 20 HERE,
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TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'VE GOT MY BOND.SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 72 OF THEM ARE REALLY 20 YEARS, 10, 20 YEARS AGO.
MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I'VE TALKED TO THEIR TOP OUT PAY IS ABOUT HALF OR LESS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE TO COME OUT OF MONEY, IT JUST TAKES LONGER TO GET THERE.
I MEAN LIKE 47 PLUS THE FIVE STUFF OR THE 20,000 ON TOP OF THAT, THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE, WAS IT THE PAY RISE WE GAVE EVERYBODY WHO STARTS IN JANUARY DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE CLEAR TO BE CLEAR THAT IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THEM.
NOBODY THAT'S GETTING A RAISE, BUT YOUR FOLKS WOULD NOT BE THE FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT'D BE SUBJECT.
THIS WILL NOT GET TO THE 2% RATE.
AND THE LONG JAIL IS NOT FIGURED IN THAT.
YEAH, THIS IS ALL, THIS IS JUST BIKES, NO LONGEVITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IN THE SHORT CLASS,
I'M SORRY, GRAYSON COUNTY, BUT JASON, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HIM ON THE LIST OF SOMEBODY I CAN COUNT.
HOW DID YOU CHOOSE YOUR COUNTIES TO LOOK AT JUST, I PULLED UP THE GOVERNMENT LIST AND TRIED TO FIND COUNTIES THAT WAS UP COMPARISON POPULATION AND REAL CLOSE AND RAIL CO MILES AT ONE 56.
ELLIS'S AT 181 WAS CALLED MAIL AT JAMAL'S AT A ONE 56.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING YET FROM ELLIS PARKER OR COMO.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR COMO AND GRAYSON ARE REAL CLUBS SINCE I CAME INTO THE US.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T REALLY COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES HERE, BUT THE CITY OF FORNEY, UH, ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES TO THE CITY 40, CAUSE HE TOOK AN IMMEDIATE $12,000 A YEAR AND CREATE SOME PEG WHEN THEY HAD THAT POSITION OPENED UP.
AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO HAVE ANOTHER POSITION OPENED UP AND I KNOW SOME OF THEM UP HERE.
I SUGGEST WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
TAKING THAT OUT OF THE FIREFIGHTER, LIKE HE'S PROPOSED IS EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? OKAY.
WHAT IS YOUR ANNOTATION ON 36 WHERE IT SAYS, OR I'M SORRY, ON 37 WHERE IT SAYS ONLY WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I MEAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE WAY, BUT LET'S WAIT A MINUTE.
LET'S LET'S FINISH THIS DISCUSSION AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
THERE'S STILL PART OF THAT JUDGE, BECAUSE THE 23,000 YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THESE COMMENTS ALL I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
IF YOU REMEMBER EARLY ON I, I, WHEN I BROKE OUT THE WORKBOOK ITSELF, I WAS BUSTING OUT LONGEVITY AND OTHER PLAYS CELL PHONE.
AND AFTER WORKING WITH THE AUDITORS OFFICE, THE WAY STW IS SET UP FROM ACCOUNTING PURPOSES, ONLY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS BEING SHOWN IN THOSE CATEGORIES.
SO I HAD TO PUT THEM BACK SO THAT THIS WOULD UPLOAD INTO STW.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THIS WORK, BUT THE NET NET IS VERY SMALL THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE.
I HAD TO PUT AN ADJUSTMENT BACK.
IT WAS JUST, IT'S JUST MOVING DOLLARS FROM ONE CATEGORY TO THE NEXT.
ALL RIGHT, JERRY, IS THAT ALL RIGHT? UH, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT INTO THE BUDGET AS PROPOSED WITH A FIRE FUND.
KAREN I'LL DEFAULT TO YOU AND BRANDON, YOU WERE HOW YOU WANT TO PUT IT INTO THAT LINE ITEM BASED OR SOMETHING.
JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL ADJUST IT BACK OUT.
I HAVE THE, I HAVE THE FIGURE SPOT PERSON, SO I'LL SEND THAT OVER OR, OR THE SUPPLEMENT.
I'M JUST, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO JUMP BACK.
I'M JUST GOING TO START THE TALKS.
UM, THAT TOP LINE ITEM THERE AND RED, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE BUDGET.
UH, I'VE TAKEN IT ALSO OUT OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, SILLY TO WASH OUT.
WE'LL CARRY THOSE ON, ON A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT, BUT THEY WON'T BE PART OF THE, OF THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S COMING OUT OF REVENUE AND COMING OUT OF EXPENSES.
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YUP.UM, WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDIT INCOME.
THAT'S JUST A PLACE HOLDER BASED UPON HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
WE WON'T GET THAT NUMBER UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
SO YOU'LL SEE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE BUDGET.
ONCE WE GET IT TO GET THAT IN THERE, WE'LL JUST ADJUST THAT WHATEVER WE END UP RECEIVING.
UM, THE FINAL THING ON THIS PAGE IS THIS TOTAL REVENUE.
SO TOTAL REVENUE, 52,000,005 62, FOUR 50.
THAT INCLUDES WHAT WOULD THE COURT HAS DISCUSSED ABOUT UNSPENT DOLLARS BEING PUT INTO THIS, INTO THIS NUMBER TO FUND THE PROJECTS THAT WERE, THAT WERE APPROVED.
SO THAT'S ALL JUST TRUING ALL OF THAT UP THROUGH THAT.
SO TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED, 1.1 MILLION $480,000 OUT OF THIS CURRENT YEAR, CORRECT? THAT'S UNSPENT.
THAT WILL BE ME MOVING INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT INCLUDES CONTINGENCY DOLLARS.
AND WE HAVE, WE HAD TWO 30, WE GOT TWO 50 OR SO IN CONTINGENCY.
SO THAT INCLUDES THAT, UM, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE WHERE YOU SEE ONLY CLERK HERE, ONLY DIRECTOR HERE.
THOSE ARE ALL OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
BRANDY HAS BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON THE, ON THE PAYROLL WORKSHEET.
AND SO WE CATCH A LITTLE, WE CATCH UP A LITTLE BIT A DOLLAR HERE, A LITTLE BIT OF DOLLAR THERE.
SO THESE ARE ALL JUST TRUE UPS.
WHEN YOU SEE PER SALARY WORKBOOK, THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
WE'VE PROBABLY EXCHANGED 10 EMAILS IN THE LAST WEEK.
SO WHAT WE'RE GETTING THEM ALL, ALL CLEARED UP.
WE MISS A POSITION, FIND A POSITION, CAPTURE A POSITION, THOSE TACOS THINGS AS WE GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS, THIS BOOK, UM, I'M GOING TO STOP ON PAGE 30 OF THE, OF THIS WORKBOOK.
AND I NOTICED A TIE GAME AND TALK TO YOU JUDGE THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE, THE TERRELL PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT IT SHOWED UP IN REVISION FIVE.
WE WERE GIVEN AN EXTRA 18,000 AND SOME DOLLARS.
NOW, IS THIS ONGOING DONATION OR IS THIS A PROJECT THAT THEY APPROACHED YOU WITH THAT IS A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE? OR IS THIS AN ONGOING, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW.
IT'S BEEN TOO LONG SINCE I LOOKED AT THAT, I WOULD JUST LOOK UP A WEEK AGO WHENEVER WE GOT THE
WELL, WE DID WHAT WE DID WITH EVERY, UH, WITH EVERY CHARITY, EVERY CHARITABLE NONPROFIT THAT WE GIVE MONEY TO, WHAT WE DID IS WHATEVER THEIR REQUEST WAS, PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.
THEN WE CAN REVISIT IF Y'ALL WANT TO.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF IT'S A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE, IF IT'S AN ONGOING EXPENDITURE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, BECAUSE IF IT'S ONGOING EXPENDITURE, THEN THAT'S THE SAME THING AS A SALARY COST INCREASES.
DID WE DISCUSS THAT? I DON'T RECALL DISCUSSING, WAIT, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT? WELL, REVISIONARY, IT WAS A GEL ON THE SIDE, WHICH CAN MEAN JERRY FOR ALL THIS STUFF ON THE SIDE, THAT KIND OF EXPLAINED STUFF.
IT JUST SHOWED UP FOR 18,000 SOMETHING.
AND WE GAVE HIM AN INCREASE LAST YEAR WHEN WE ADJUSTED THE LIBRARIES, YOU COME IN AND DO, UM, PRESENTATION.
AND THEN, AND THEN 18,000 CAME UP AS A REQUEST BY REVISION FIVE.
IT WASN'T IN ANY OF THE OTHER REVISIONS.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE GOT ROLLED OVER INTO THE DEAL.
SO I MEAN, WELL, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE, UH, CHILD WELFARE BOARD STAR TRANSIT AND STARTED TRAINING.
IT ACTUALLY WAS A DECREASE, BUT I, I, I REALLY, I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN ANSWER QUESTION MULTIPLE TIMES DOING IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET THOSE RESPONSES FROM ME.
I MISSED, I GUESS I MISSED THOSE.
SO I'LL APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THOSE.
AND KNOW, AS WE'VE RECEIVED SOME SOUND OF STUCK OUT ALL BY ITSELF, BY REVISION FIVE, IT JUST SHOWED UP.
DID THEY, DID THEY SHOULDN'T CORRESPONDENCE WITH THERE? THEY DID.
SO IT WOULD JUST WE'D GET THE CORRESPONDENCE.
YOU GET ONE, ONE WEEK, ONE THE NEXT WEEK WHEN, AS THEY CAME LIBRARY, THEY DID, THEY SENT A CORRESPONDENCE.
I DON'T RECALL WHAT ALL IT SAID, BUT I KNOW IT HAD SOME MATH IN THERE ABOUT USAGE OF THE LIBRARY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, HOW MANY PEOPLE TOO MUCH DRAMA LAST TIME WITH ELABORATE DEAL TO JUST ARBITRARILY, JUST NOT DISCUSS IT OPENLY AND PUBLICLY.
I SENT THAT QUESTION TO SEE IF I CAN GET AN ANSWER WHILE WE'RE, IF WE MOVE ON AND GO TO THE NEXT PAGE AND I'LL SEE IF I GET AN ANSWER, THEN WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION THOUGH ABOUT THE, BECAUSE THE FORNEY LIBRARY CLOSED AND THERE'S NO MONEY IN THERE FOR THAT.
THEY PAY, WELL, THEY PICKED LOOK, ARROW, PICKED UP SOME YEAH, ADDITIONAL, THEY DO PICK UP TERRITORY, WHATEVER.
THERE'S A, BUT THE 40, I DON'T REALLY THE 40 LIBRARY.
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A CERTIFIED OR WHERE DO YOU CALL THAT LIBRARY? AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHY THEY PICKED UP.MAYBE I CAN ANSWER BEFORE WE FINISH THIS DISCUSSION.
MA'AM OH, NINE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND HERE.
SO PAGE, PAGE 30, UM, YOU'LL SEE A SALARY ADJUSTMENT FOR THE, WHERE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AS PER THAT JUDGE COMMITTEE.
SO BY STATUE KIND OF LIKE WITH THE AUDITOR, UM, THAT JUDGE COMMITTEE SETS THE SALARY FOR THAT POSITION.
SO THAT CAME OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE.
SO WE ADJUSTED THAT AND THEN YOU SIT AND THEN IT BUMPS UP TAXES AND BENEFITS SLIGHTLY TO STOP ME IF I'M, IF I'M SEEING ANYTHING, YOU'LL SEE ON PAGE 34.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S HOW THE OFFSET OF THAT ONE 58 THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT PAGE 37 IS THE FIRE MARSHALL.
THAT'S THE DETAIL, UH, AFTER IN THE RED BLOCK THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
SO THAT THAT'LL BE THAT ADJUSTMENT PAGE 39.
I'VE GOT A NOTE FROM THE CONSTABLE ASKING FOR THESE TWO THINGS IN RED.
AND SO THE FIRST ASK WAS REQUESTING A PART TIME DEPUTY, AND THAT THAT'S A NUMBER I GOT FROM HIM SAYING ALL LAND.
HE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE COST WAS 32, SIX 74.
AND THEN HE REQUESTED ANOTHER $5,000 FOR TESTING.
AND WHAT THE NOTE SAID, DPS FORENSICS AND ARMSTRONG LABS, UH, APPARENTLY WHEN THEY IT'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH A NARCOTIC SUSPECT AND THE WAY A NARCOTIC SUSPECT, IT'S CHARGED TO THEM AS PART OF THEIR COURT COSTS, BUT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PAY IT OUT A DOLLAR AT A TIME IF THEY WANT TO.
SO HE WANTED TO KEEP THE LAB'S HOLE, COVER IT THROUGH THE, HIS BUDGET.
AND THEN AS THOSE DOLLARS CAME BACK FROM COURT, THEY WOULD OFFSET BACK INTO REVENUE.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'LL THE LAST STUFF IS DONE BY THE APS, BESIDES WHAT WE'VE DONE SPECIAL, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, APPARENTLY THE BEST THING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GOT A HOME FOR ARMSTRONG AND THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DONE THAT I HAVE A CONTRACT.
SO WE'RE DOING IT BY CASE THE SMALLER STUFF.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE MONEY AND MANPOWER.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU NEED WATER.
SO WHY WOULD WE, WHY DON'T WE, THE CONSTABLE, I GOT ASKED THIS QUESTION WHEN I WENT TO COUNSELING AND ONE OF THE WAY, I MEAN, IF HIS GUY GETS IT AND I PUT IT INTO EVIDENCE, I MEAN, CAUSE THE CASE IS GOING TO GO NOWHERE.
THE DA'S OFFICE IS NOT GOING TO DO NOTHING WITH IT, UNLESS IT HAS A TA LEVEL AND THAT'S ALL.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OCCASION DOES MATCH THEM UP THOUGH.
SO I ASKED HIM, DO THIS TESTING IF HE'S GOING TO ARREST SOMEBODY.
OH HE HAS TO DO THAT TEST IF HE WANTS TO GET A CONVICTION.
AND SO IF THEY ARREST HIM, IF COMFORTABLE DRIVING AROUND, WHETHER IT'S IN FOUR, TWO OR ONE, IT DON'T MATTER IF THEY ARREST THEM.
THEY'RE THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO THE TEST.
I MEAN, WELL THAT, THAT, BECAUSE THE STATE OF TEXAS DOES NOT FIT TO YOU.
I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY CAN'T DO IT.
ARE THOSE TYPICALLY MISDEMEANOR TYPE CASES.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE WORKING BIG FANS AROUND HERE AND YOU DON'T EVEN DO THAT.
YOU DON'T EVEN, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR WAS I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE WE GET, YOU KNOW, A POUND OR TWO THAT I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, I'VE GOT TO SEND IT OFF, RIGHT.
BUT YOUR POLICY IS ON A MISDEMEANOR TYPE THING.
IT'S SMALL AMOUNT WHERE WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, SO WHAT HAPPENS? SMALL QUARTERBACK OR NOT? SO WHAT HAPPENS IF PRECINCT ONE CUSTOMER ARREST SOMEBODY THAT HAS TWO POUNDS? WHAT DO THEY DO? OH, I WILL HELP.
THEY SEND IT OFF AND HAVE IT TESTED MY PHD LEVEL AS WELL.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, I GUESS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, AND IF HE ASKS ME TO DO IT, I'D SEND IT OFF AND DO IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONSTABLES HAVE THIS? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
IT MAY BE PART OF OTHER MISCELLANEOUS OR SOMETHING.
I WOULDN'T KNOW THOSE DETAILS.
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FOR THEM IF THEY CALL ME AND IT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.I WOULD THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT, IF IT NEEDS TO BE PROCESSED THROUGH THE LABORATORY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THAT WOULD AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE, THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO HANDLE IT THROUGH THAT.
SO I, I THINK I WOULD, I'D BE AGAINST THAT 5,000.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO BACK UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS OTHER DEBT.
I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE MATH RIGHT NOW.
I KEPT IT OUT THERE SEPARATELY.
SO WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP.
I GOT IT ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR SO I SUGGEST WE NOT ADD EITHER ONE OF THOSE.
YOUR MOM, I'M LOOKING REAL QUICK BECAUSE WE HAVE 15,000.
SEEMS LIKE THAT CAPABILITIES THERE.
SO YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING IT.
THERE'S NO SENSE IN THIS AND THIS OTHER DEPUTY IS NOT PART OF A CONTRACT.
HE'S THE ONE, THE COUNTY DEPUTY.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE PART TIME DEPUTY FOR WHAT? I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION I HAVE.
IS IT 30 MISSIONS? DEPUTY POSITIONS? NO, I JUST, I JUST PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AS A PLACE HOLDER, SO I'D HAVE A PLACE TO TYPE.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBER IN THERE AT ALL.
ANY DOLLARS I THINK, WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION THAT WE JUST MOVE ON WITH THAT.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT? THAT'S GOOD.
I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THESE.
WE CAUGHT A POSITION IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT PRETTY BIG ADJUSTMENT AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE AGAIN.
THAT'S JUST THE SALARY WORKBOOK.
I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR A LOT.
SO I HAD THESE BROKE OUT BY ALL THESE DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
AND SO IT GOT A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH, BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THEM ALL IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
THAT WAS A TUG OF WAR BETWEEN, UH, JERRY AND SHE WON.
HE LOST AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
WHO'S GOING TO BE TOO COMPLICATED.
SO, OH, I DID WANT TO, I DID WANT TO BRING OUT ONE.
I SKIPPED OVER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
GOSH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PAGE THEY'RE ON.
YOU'LL SEE THAT ADJUSTMENT OF 73 99.
I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT ALL THE DRAFTS AND I, I HAD MADE AN ERROR IN MY FORMULA THAT I LEFT.
I WENT BACK TO HER BUDGET NUMBER INSTEAD OF THE REQUESTED NUMBER.
SO THAT'S ALL THESE ADJUSTMENTS, A THOUSAND DOLLARS, 1800, 309, NINE.
I HAD TO MAKE ALL THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO GET THIS THING BACK.
SO I WANT TO TRY TO CALL THAT OUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S BALANCED BACK OUT NOW.
THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THIS? THE OTHER OPEN SWITCH THAT'S OUT THERE IS JUVENILE PROBATION.
UM, BRANDY'S BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH LAURA PRIESTS AND I THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE ON, ON THAT ONE.
UH, I DID PULL OUT IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION BUDGET ON PAGE 75, THAT THREE OH SEVEN.
UM, THERE, WHAT THEY, UH, PAGE 30 BY 75.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONE OH SEVEN IS WHAT'S BEEN OUR DISCUSSION TO BE, BE A PART OF THE CARES I HAVE TO COVID.
SO I'M PULLING THAT ONE OH SEVEN OUT, BUT I DON'T HAVE ALL THE REST OF HER NUMBERS TOO.
BUT TO BALANCE THIS OUT, WE'RE VERY CLOSE, BUT I WANT TO PULL THAT ONE OH SEVEN OUT OF THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE IT IN YOUR BUDGET.
IF IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF BEING REIMBURSED THROUGH FEMA.
SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THAT'S NOTED THERE ALSO JERRY OWN DEPARTMENT FUND 21 PAGE 64, WE GOT TO PUT HIS LEASE AND NET PAYMENTS IN THERE.
SO W WHAT WE'LL DO THERE, COMMISSIONER IS I'LL GET THOSE TOTALS AND THEY'LL HAVE TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT SOMEWHERE IN HERE, BECAUSE TO BALANCE IT BACK OUT.
YOU ALSO CAN, CAN I GET YOU TO GO TO PAGE 11? I'M LIKE AWESOME.
BECAUSE WE REALLY HADN'T DISCUSSED IT.
I GOT TO DRIVE HERE, SPEAK TO IT, AND I WENT RIGHT PAST IT.
SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST ESTIMATED THIS TIFF AND THE POWER CENTERS, WE HAD NOT RECEIVED THE 2020 VALUES FROM THE CAD.
WHEN I GOT THOSE LAST WEEK, I JUST ABOUT FELL OUT OF MY
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CHAIR.IF YOU DON'T NOTICE FROM 730, 2000, WE'RE GOING UP TO 1,000,024 THAT MAINLY HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL THE POWER CENTER.
AND THE ADDITIONS IN FORNEY, FORTIES WENT UP FROM, YOU KNOW, LIKE 160 TO 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND.
AND, UM, NOW FROM 330, TWO TO 427 TERRELL, ONE 96 TO 328,000, AND THEN THE, UM, THE NEW BILL IN THE APPRAISAL FOUND OR SOMETHING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THIS AND YOU IN, HOW DID YOU PUT IT IN AN ADDITION IN ADDITION? YES.
WELL, IT'S WITH ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
IT'S A, IT'S A NEW COMPANY OR A BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE GETTING BACK SOME TIP MONEY OFF THE NEW BUILDING.
BUT WE'RE BRINGING IN MORE TAX.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ACTUALLY MADE MYSELF A NOTE ON HERE, THAT THAT'LL BE A GOOD EXERCISE THAT WE'LL DO SOON, NOT NECESSARILY A BUDGET RELATED, BUT WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL THESE TIPS AND LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT THEY BROUGHT, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, CAUSE IT'S NEW PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING AND LOOKING AT WHAT I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING FOR US TO SEE HOW MUCH MORE WAS BROUGHT IN, IN PROPERTY TAXES.
AND HOW MUCH IS, HOW MUCH IS THIS NUMBER? THAT'S COME THAT WE'RE PAYING BACK OR WE REIMBURSE IT BACK TO THEM.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO SEE WHAT THE NET, EVEN IF JUST CHANGE THE PROCEEDS THAT WE PAY BACK IS LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE GETTING PAID.
I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING FOR US TO SEE THE DOLLARS AND SEE HOW GOOD, I GUESS I WOULD SAY REALLY IS HOW GOOD OF A DEAL HAS THIS? IS THIS TURNING OUT TO BE FOR US? WELL, I MEAN, IF THEY WERE PAYING $35, NOW THEY'RE PAYING 35,000 TO US.
THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE, RIGHT.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PAYING BACK 10 OF THAT 35, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL NETTING $25,000 IPHONE.
OF OUR GENERAL IN TEXAS, THAT'S IT JUST THINKING FOR ON THE ROAD AND RAISE MONEY.
CAUSE USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS, WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT WE'RE PAYING OUT AND THAT WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE THE AUDITOR'S ACTUALLY COME BACK.
AND WHEN THEY DO THE PRESENTATION TO YOU, THEY DON'T BRING THIS TIFF UP BECAUSE THEY NETTED AGAINST OUR PROPERTY TAXES.
WE SORT OF LOOK AT IT AS AN EXPENSE AND THEY DON'T.
JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT IT WENT UP, UH, BACK TO THE DEAL WITH THE LIBRARY.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE KIND OF IN THE BACKGROUND, I DON'T KNOW HOW AWARE Y'ALL ARE OF IT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE, UH, I THINK A PRETTY GOOD JOB IS WE'VE DONE A BETTER JOB, NOT A GOOD JOB.
WE'VE DONE A BETTER JOB AT GETTING THESE, THESE, UH, NONPROFITS THAT WE SUPPORT OF GETTING THEM TO REVIEW THEIR BYLAWS, REWRITE THEIR BYLAWS.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEIR BYLAWS WERE COMPLETELY OUT OF DATE AND THEY WEREN'T DOING WHAT WAS IN THE BYLAWS, UH, GIVING US SOME BUDGETING INFORMATION.
WE JUST HAD A LOT OF TIME LAG IN THIS BUDGET AND, AND I'LL TAKE BLAME FOR THAT.
I JUST DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THEM EARLY ENOUGH.
I ASKED THEM TO GIVE US, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE CONTRIBUTE, SEND US YOUR BUDGET, SEND US YOUR FINANCES, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR FINANCIALS ARE AND, AND HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR OUR COUNTY.
AND I THINK THEY ALL, ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU'RE, I THINK ALL OF THEM ULTIMATELY RESPONDED.
IT WAS JUST, WE WERE ALREADY ALMOST THROUGH WITH THE BUDGET BY THE TIME I GOT THOSE ANSWERS AND THAT WAS MY FAULT.
BUT I'LL, I'LL GET AN ANSWER ON THE LIBRARY IN PARTICULAR, MIKE.
AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE, I, I'M NOT SAYING I'M AGAINST UNDERSTAND.
IT'S JUST, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE THE BUDGET GUY AND WHENEVER THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME THING IS IT'S A NO BRAINER.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THESE NONPROFITS.
WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND THEY WANT THE SAME FUNDING.
IF THEY WANT MORE FUNDING, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DYNAMIC.
AND IF IT'S A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE FOR A PROGRAM THAT WE ALL BUY ALL PHONE, RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE'RE FIGHTING AND SCRATCHING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
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EXPENSE, ABOUT $18,000, THERE'S THREE OR FOUR OF OUR LOW END EMPLOYEES GETTING A PERCENT OR TWO BENEFITS AND ALL.SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE START JUST ARBITRARILY, SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, THAT'S IT, THIS WAS A CHANGE IN THAT.
I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR THIS CAUSE IT SURPRISED ME WHEN I SAW IT, BECAUSE WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IS A 12 TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH MONEY AND WE CAN PULL THE ANSWER THAT FOR ME.
CAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK THIS SOONER OR LATER ANYWAY WAS IN FOUR OH NINE IS WHERE WE PUT THE SALARY WAGE MONEY, THE EXTRA MONEY WE HAD LEFTOVER.
AND THEN WE DID, WE TALK ABOUT, WE HAD TWO AND A HALF MILLION GUESSTIMATE THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN LEFTOVER.
AND WE WERE GOING TO PUT A MILLION IN FUND BALANCE AND THEN USE A MILLION AND A HALF TO GIVE THE RAISE AND DO THE SALARY STUDIES.
SO I GUESS I SAW 500,000 IN THERE.
SO DID WE EAT UP A MILLION IN THE RAISES? YES.
BUT ANYWAY, DID, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE I WENT LOOKING FOR THE LIBRARY DEAL.
AND I THINK IT STOOD OUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T, WE NEED TO KNOW IS THAT OUR ONGOING EXPENSE OR IS THAT SOME PROJECT? AND IF IT, WHICHEVER IT IS, AND, AND THE ONLY ANSWER I HAVE IS THAT WE PROBABLY WILL, UH, LOOK AT THAT AGAIN ON MONDAY AND WINTER, THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM GET BACK WHAT WE GAVE HIM YOUR NOW I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT A ONE TIME PROJECT.
I'M JUST NOT HAVE COMPLETE RECOLLECTION OF IT, BUT I DON'T.
I DO NOT THE LIGHT MINUTE DEAL.
IT WASN'T ANY OTHER REVISIONS AND IT GOT IT.
SO IT MAKES ME THINK, WELL, MAYBE THIS IS A ONE TIME DEAL FOR A PROGRAM AND WE'LL GET AN ANSWER.
IF I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER.
I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON MONDAY, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A BRIEF DISK, NOT JUST ABOUT THIS, BUT ALL OF THEM.
AND WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT THEIR REQUESTS ARE NOW OUT OF THIS IS STANDARD REQUEST THAT I SORT OF THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THEIR REQUESTS EVERY YEAR, WHETHER IT'S THE SAME AS, AS FINE, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THAT MONEY.
AND WHETHER IT'S LIKE, SAY, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, MELINDA, WHEN THE CAROL LIBRARY REQUEST PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RAISE FROM US, ARE THEY ALSO GETTING A PARALLEL RAISE FROM THE CITY OF TERROR, WHEREVER THE CITY TERRELL FUNDS OUT AT ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS A YEAR.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CITY'S BUDGET LAST YEAR.
THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T GET INCREASE FROM TERRELL, BUT THEY DID FROM US MANY MORE JUST US.
WELL, AND THE SENIOR CITIZENS COMES IN HERE AND THEY GIVE US, WE NEED MORE MONEY BECAUSE, AND THIS IS RIGHT.
SO THAT WAS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE FUNDED THE YEAR BEFORE.
I THINK IT'S, AND WE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SHOULDN'T BE JUST ARBITRARILY DONE.
IT'S JUST A, IT WAS A, IT WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THE THING WRAPPED UP, BUT WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO REVISIT THAT IF NOT BEFORE ON MONDAY AND UH, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A FULL EXPLANATION AND THEN WE'LL MAKE DECISION WHETHER TO NOT JUST ALL OF THESE, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM.
WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE SHORT SESSION TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE NONPROFITS AND JUST GET REVIEWED AND INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE SENT US ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, ALRIGHT, JUST BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR, I KNOW THAT RANDY AND I JUST, HE SENT ME A NOTE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR ON THE FIRE CODE FUND AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS.
AND AS I'M GETTING A MESSAGE THAT WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS RANDY, CHAD, MATTHEW, ASHLEY THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRE MARSHALL IN FOUR AND THREE DEPUTIES AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
SO HE'S ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 5,000 FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AS WELL.
AND WE DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN THAT MATH.
AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE I'M BEING PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ASK HIGHER UP.
I SAID, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT OTHER 5,000 FOR TEEN.
IS THAT A SALARY? WHAT'S HER POSITION NOW ON THE ASSISTANT ON THE ASSISTANT THAT, UH, I FELT, I FELT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
I DON'T REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IT.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE OLDER YOU GET YOUR, MEMORY'S NOT AS GREAT AS IT USED TO BE, BUT, UH, AND THE PA OUT OF THE ELDERS PRIOR FUND, UH, CAUSE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION OVER THE CARS, REMEMBER THAT, AND YOU WERE WORRIED THAT WE COULDN'T BUY THE CARS WITH THAT FUND, BUT YOU COULD DO SALARY.
AND THEN WE ENDED UP FINDING OUT THROUGH THE VA'S S WE COULD DO, WE COULD DO THE FIRE MARSHALL, SORRY.
BUT I FELT IN ORDER OF THE BRINGING OUT OF THAT FUND HAD THAT VIA LASSONDE FIRE MARSHALL TO BRING IT UP THE RULING ONLY IN DA'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME
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AND IN DEMONSTRATION.THAT'S IT PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT.
I THINK IF IT'S NOT A, IF IT'S NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITION, THEN THOSE INCREASES SHOULD BE PART OF THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.
THAT SHOULD WAIT UNTIL, AND WHETHER IT'S COMING OUT OF A FIREFIGHTER, KNOTS IS A LITTLE BIT IRRELEVANT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED A WEIGHT ON THE WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION, THE LANGUAGE INSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE, WE WAIT UNTIL THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY COME OUT.
WHAT WAS THAT? BRING HER SOUND RAMP TO THAT ATTITUDE.
WHAT WOULD THAT BRING HER SALARY UP TO 5,000.
SHE'S A 40 NOW, BUT SHE DID GET THE PRORATED RAISE THOUGH.
SHE, SHE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PRORATED RAISE.
THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE WAGE IN COLLABORATION.
THIS IS NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITION.
I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF, AGAIN, I MADE SOME SMALL ADJUSTMENTS IN ROAD AND BRIDGE.
UH RANDY'S LADY SHE'D HAD A, HAD A COUPLE OF MORE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY MINOR.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OUT HERE IN ANY OF THE REST OF THE S WE'VE TRUED UP ALL THE, UM, ALL THE INS FUNDS.
THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN BALANCED OUT.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'M, THAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A STAFFING CHART.
SO FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT YOU'LL KNOW HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THOSE NEW EMPLOYEES POSITIONS ARE.
SO I'M GOING TO ADD A, I'M GOING TO ADD A STAFFING CHART TO THE BUDGET.
I'VE GOT A FEW GRAPHS, WE'VE GOT A FEW COVER LETTERS.
WE'VE GOT A FEW SMALL ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE AND TO RUN THE COURT OF OUR TIMING.
UH, NEXT TUESDAY, THE 18TH, WE HAVE A HEARING SET FOR, TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE A HEARING SET TO ADOPT, UH, THE TAX RATE.
SO THOSE WILL BE TO OFFICIAL ROLL CALL VOTES.
UH, WE NEED TO HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE ON BOTH OF THOSE FOR THE 18TH.
AND AT THAT POINT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A FEW THAT ARE MADE BECAUSE YOU HAVE LATE BOOKINGS THAT COME ACROSS THE BOOKS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE AN ADOPTED BUDGET AND A REVISED BUDGET, BUT THOSE WILL BE MADE THROUGH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AFTER THAT.
SO I CAN MAKE THE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, BUT GOT, WE GOT THE TRUCK THAT SHE MENTIONED ON, ON ROAD AND BRIDGE ONE.
I CAN SEND THIS BACK OUT ELECTRONICALLY AND WE SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD PRETTY MUCH BE THE BUDGET.
UM, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS THAT I NEED TO BE CAPTURED OR PUT INTO HERE, THAT'S KINDA, THAT'S KIND OF IT FOR ME.
EVERYBODY IS STUDYING INTENTLY.
I TRIED TO CAPTURE EVERY, EVERY NOTE, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW IF YOU GO THROUGH THE DRAFTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT AS, AS WE DISCUSS IT OR SOMETHING, I KIND OF GOT RID OF THAT NOTE AND PUT THE NEW NOTE OUT THERE IS KIND OF HOW THE PROCESSES HAS WORKED.
I, I BELIEVE I'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING.
THAT'S, THAT'S COME ACROSS THE PLATE.
I'VE GOT IT ALL KIND OF BY DEPARTMENT.
NOW, AS WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET THIS THING INTO, INTO PDF VERSION.
SO IT CAN, IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE PRINTED AS A DOCUMENT, AS A BOOK.
I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING AND IF I'M NOT SEEING THIS, PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THIS ON THE, UH, ROATAN BRIDGE STUFF.
WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? TURN 66, WHICH SHOULD BE MINE.
SO ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, WHEN THE CURRENT BUDGET INS, OKAY.
THE BALANCE THAT I HAVE AT THAT POINT, UH, FROM THIS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WHERE'S THAT MONEY.
SO HERE'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON, ON TWO NINE UP AT THE TOP TWO, THREE, NINE, NINE, NINE, THREE, NINE, THREE.
THAT WOULD NUMBER WOULD GO IN THERE.
AND IF ANY EXCESS OF IT, IF IT CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO COVER YOUR BUDGET, YOU NEED YOUR, YOUR LEVY AND YOUR YOU'RE THREE, THREE, NINE, EIGHT, THREE OH ONE.
THAT'S YOUR LEVY AND YOUR OTHER REVENUE.
THE 76, THREE 26 IS PROJECTED CONTINGENCY.
WE TRUE THAT NUMBER UP ANY REMAINING BETWEEN SAY IT'S HIGHER, SAY IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT $30,000 WITHIN DROP DOWN TO TWO, THREE SEVEN, NINE, NINE, SIX OH THREE.
YOU WOULD SEE THAT AS AN OFFSET.
SO THOSE TWO NUMBERS WOULD BALANCE.
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WHATEVER YOU TAKE IN CONTINGENCY, SOME OF IT'S NEEDED TO COVER YOUR BUDGET.ONCE YOUR BUDGETS COVERED ANYTHING LEFTOVER GOES BACK AND DO CONTINUANCE.
THEY'LL DO THE SAME FOR ALL FOR ALL FOUR OF YOU.
SO ALL I HAVE IN THERE NOW, WHAT TIMES I'LL TELL ALREADY IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS, MAX HAS BEEN CHANGING CONSIDERABLY IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS OR YEARS IS PRETTY SMALL NOW.
SO YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH IN THAT ACCOUNT, BUT THAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR ALL OF YOU.
THAT'S THAT'S THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN IN RODENBURG PROBABLY IN THE REVISED VERSION BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE ALL THOSE NUMBERS BY END.
THAT'S WHY WE JUST KIND OF, AS YOU'LL NOTICE, NONE OF YOU HAVE A HEPA CONTINGENCY.
ZERO IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BUDGETS ARE CHANGING SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR.
SO WE JUST KINDA, WE GOT, WE GOT TO HAVE SOME POINT WHERE WE SAY STOP, LET'S GET YUP.
WE'LL ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT'LL HAPPEN IN, IN, IN SOME OF THESE OTHER, OTHER FUNDS, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS HAPPEN, THINGS, YOUR REVENUES CHANGE WHEN YOU COLLECT TAXES, ET CETERA.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS AS A WORK, AS YOU, AS YOU GO THROUGH THE COURSE OF A YEAR.
AND HE STARTED DOING, BUT IN JUNE, IT DOESN'T EXACTLY, EXACTLY PREDICT THE NEXT DAY.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS.
YOU SAID YOU SENT THE MAJORITY OF IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FLUID PARTS.
WE DIDN'T PAY ANYTHING OUT IT DARN INTERESTING AND CHANGE IT.
WELL, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
[29. Motion to Adjourn Meeting.]
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.MAYBE WE'VE GOT A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION, BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.