* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] COMMISSIONER'S COURT. JANUARY 3RD, 2006. JACK, WOULD YOU STEP DOWN? THERE WE GO. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL COME TO ORDER NOW. I'D ASK THE COMMISSIONER LIMIT OPEN THE SECOND THIS MORNING. FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY. WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A NEW YEAR. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH THIS NEW YEAR. FATHER, HELP FOR US TO RESOLVE TO SPEND IT IN YOUR SERVICE. AND FATHER, HELP FOR US TO FURTHER RESOLVE, TO BE THE BEST, THE BEST SERVANT FOR YOU THAT WE CAN BE. FATHER, PLEASE BE WITH OUR TROOPS AND KEEP THEM SAFE. BE WITH OUR LEADERS AND GUIDE THEIR DECISIONS. AND FATHER, HELP FOR HELP FOR THE FAMILIES OF, OF THOSE TRO TO, TO GET THEM HOME SAFELY AND SOON. JESUS NAME, AMEN. YOU APPROVES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE PRECEDING MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE ALL AND DECLARE, SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THIS ITEM IS OUR FARM MARSH, LARRY EWING. UH, LAST THURSDAY, I'M SURE Y'ALL GOT THE WORD. UH, I DECLARED AN EMERGENCY. AND, UH, THEN ALL FIREWORKS DISPLAYS AND FIREWORKS POP IN, IN KAUFMAN COUNTY DUE TO THE EXTREME CONDITIONS THAT ORDER'S GOOD FOR SEVEN DAYS ON THURSDAY. IF LARRY ADVISES ME THAT WE'RE STILL UNDER THOSE SAME CONDITIONS, THEN I'LL ISSUE ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER. NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS THAT IF WE HAVE A FIRE, THEN I CAN, IF LARRY CALLS ME AND SAYS, I NEED A BULLDOZER, OR I NEED A MAINTAINER, THEN I CALL YOU AND YOU TEACH THERE. UH, THAT'S, UH, WHEN WE DECLARE THAT EMERGENCY FOR SEVEN DAYS, THAT'S WHERE IT'S SO, UH, HOPE Y'ALL DIDN'T MIND. BUT, UH, FORTUNATELY, UH, THE FIRES THAT WE DID HAVE WERE TAKEN CARE OF. UM, BUT UH, THERE WERE SOME COUNTIES AROUND THE AREA THAT REALLY HAD SOME PROBLEMS. WELL, LARRY, YOU WANNA DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, JUST FOR INFORMATION ON THE DROUGHT INDEX LEVEL, AGAIN THIS MORNING WAS AT 666 FOR OUR COUNTY, SO ABSOLUTELY NO RELIEF INSIGHT. SO I WILL ASK YOU BEFORE WE GET THROUGH TODAY, THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND REINSTATE THE BURN VAN FOR ANOTHER 30 DAY PERIOD TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY RELIEF IN THAT TIME. UH, CURRENTLY, STEAD TEXAS HAS BEEN AROUND 215. THE WHOLE ACRES BURNED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AND I BELIEVE, UH, ESTIMATED 250 HOMES. SO JUST BECAUSE IT HADN'T HIT HERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT JUST AS RIGHT FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS, UH, THE WEEKEND. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I, I DO APPRECIATE AND WANNA THANK THE JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE JUDGE'S ORDER, AND I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONER'S ALL SUPPORTED IT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN OUR WEEKEND. I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, IF THE MEDIA PRESIDENT WOULD MAKE IT KNOWN, I BELIEVE OUR CITIZENS IN OUR COUNTY SHOULD BE THANKED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND OBEYING THAT BECAUSE IN MOST CASES THEY DID. WE HAD A LOT OF FIREWORKS AT RESIDENCES BEING POP. PEOPLE CALLED IN IMMEDIATELY AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO THAT IMMEDIATELY. NOWHERE DID I EVER HEAR ANYONE HAVING ANY PROBLEM ONCE THEY WERE TOLD THE SEES DOING IT. SO WE ALSO NEED TO THANK THOSE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, DISPATCHERS AND SHERIFF, AND THE DEPUTIES FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY DID. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE STILL GETTING CALLED OUT A LOT ON VIOLATIONS OF BURN VAN AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T EVEN BURN TRASH IN THE BARREL OUTSIDE. [00:05:01] HOPEFULLY WE CAN. UH, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO EXTEND THAT AS A JUDGE HAS SAID, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE, THE MEDIA TO START TRYING TO PUT SOME WORD OUT ON SOME OTHER MEANS OF DISPOSING OF THAT TRACK, SUCH AS OUR SITE HERE IN KAUFMAN AND THE OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN START LEGALLY TAKING THAT MATERIAL TOO DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME, AT LEAST. BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THE, UH, COUNTY I THINK WOULD DO EXTREMELY WELL. WE HAD A COUPLE OF LITTLE MINOR GRASS FIRES CAUSED BY FIREWORKS TO EXTINGUISH RIGHT AWAY. AND I SAT ON A LOCATION OUT HERE NEAR GASTONIA WHERE I USUALLY SAT EACH NEW YEAR'S EVE LOOKING AND SAW AT MIDNIGHT. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OCCURRING IN ANYWHERE THAT I WAS VISIBLY LOOKING AT. SO I THINK WE DID OUTSTANDING ON ALL THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP. I DO BELIEVE WE'RE PROBABLY IN SOME CASES, MAYBE PUSHING OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO THE LIMIT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF CALLS THEY'RE MAKING AT NIGHT, BUT NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED TO ME. AND I PUT THAT RIGHT UP FRONT. WE DID FIND OUT THROUGH TEXTILE, I BELIEVE IT IS THAT THERE MAY BE FUEL AVAILABLE FOR THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, FOR VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS. I'VE GOT EMAIL ON THIS MORNING OUT, RESEARCHED IT COMPLETELY. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO GET FUEL DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME, FREE OF CHARGE. THE , IT HAS TO BE UNFORTUNATELY, EIGHT TO FIVE DURING WORK DAYS. AND, UH, SOMEBODY WILL BE CALLED IN ON THE WEEKENDS AND ALL LOCATION IS OUT HERE AT THE SITE HERE IN KAMAN. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE VOLUNTARY FIRE DEPARTMENTS WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT IF THEY NEED IT. SO WE'LL GET THAT WORD OUT TO ALL THEM TODAY. CURRENT TIME, 6 66, NO CHANGES. WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER MONTH. WELL, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE, THE PEOPLE OUT THERE. WE HAD NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS RESIDENTS IN OUR PRECINCT CALLING IN ASKING US COULD WE DO MORE COULD, AND THAT, THAT WAS BEFORE THE JUDGE, UH, PUT THE EMERGENCY VAN. SO I THINK EVERYBODY OUT THERE WAS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND, UH, I, I SAW CHANNEL EIGHT OR ONE OF THE TELEVISION LAST NIGHT THAT THE FIREWORKS PEOPLE WERE OPEN, BUT THEY JUST, MOST OF 'EM JUST SITTING THERE WITHOUT, I DIDN'T SEE EXCEPT IN ONE LOCATION REALLY. TWO LOCATIONS, HARDLY ANY CELLS AT ALL. YEAH. DIDN'T SEE MUCH TRAFFIC. MOST OF 'EM. I EVEN HAD SOME FIREWORKS STAND THAT JUST VOLUNTARILY CLOSE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE SITUATION, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE A PART OF IT. YOU CLOSE THE DOOR LEFT. YEAH. TO CARRY THE JUDGE'S COMMENT ONE STEP FORWARD. UH, I HAD TROUBLE GUYS THAT HIT HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT SAID THAT IF WE DID HAVE FIRES THAT THEY WOULD OFFER TO LET US USE THEIR, THEIR HEAVY EQUIPMENT. YOU CAN DO A LOT ON CONTROLLING THE FIRE IF YOU'VE GOT SOME GOOD EQUIPMENT TO DO IT WITH. YES, SIR. AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY NICE. GOOD. WE APPRECIATE IT. UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A COMMENT TOO, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DID READ WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE JUDGE MADE THE ORDER, GOT SOME CRITICISM, YOU KNOW, SOME CRITICISM FROM PEOPLE WITH CELL FIREWORKS AND CRITICISM WAS THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE EARLIER? WELL, WE WEREN'T INUNDATED WITH FIRES EARLIER. UM, YEAH, WE KNEW THERE WERE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, BUT WHEN FIRES STARTED CROPPING UP ALL OVER THE METROPLEX, I THINK IT WAS CLEAR THAT, UM, THE JUDGE NEEDED TO TAKE THE ACTION HE TOOK. AND HE HAS MY FULL VACUUM AND SUPPORT FOR WHAT HE DID. AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE LOST SALES. I THINK KAMAN COUNTY PROBABLY HAD THE LEAST FIRES AND, AND, UH, CHIEF I'VE, UH, OR, OR, UM, I WANT THANK YOU LARRY, THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. AND I THINK THAT ORDER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. AND I WOULD, I WOULD A LOT RATHER LOSE FIREWORK SALES THAN LOSE HOMES. AND I THINK THAT THAT ORDER DID SAVE, SAVE HOMES AND SAVE PROPERTY DID TOO. I THINK SO. EXCELLENT. THE OTHER THING, WE DID HAVE A COMMISSIONER ON THE NEWS THE OTHER NIGHT TALKING ABOUT, UH, THURSDAY, THURSDAY NIGHT. I THINK ALL THE MEDIA WAS GREAT THIS TIME GO BY WITHOUT ANY MAJOR INCIDENT. VERY READY TO SHOW THE METROPLEX WE INVOLVED OUT HERE. PLEASED WITH THAT. DO YOU GET INVOLVED WITH THE CAP AS THEY, UH, MONITOR THE AREA? NO, SIR. I MEAN, WE, WE GET ALL KINDS OF REPORTS AND DATA LIKE ANYBODY ELSE CAN OVER THE INTERNET THAT WE TRIED TO LOOK AT. THE CIVIL AIR PATROL IS, UH, PATROLLING. I KNOW NORTH OF HERE. I HEAR ON THE RADIO REPORTING HOT SPOTS AND FIRE AND I JUST WONDER THEY CONTACT, NO SIR, WE HAVEN'T BEEN CAUGHT. D PS PUT UP, I REMEMBER, I IT'S 1 0 1 THE HELICOPTER UNIT. IF IT, IF WE HAD SOMETHING MAJOR IN THIS AREA, WE HAD 'EM OUT HERE ON THE 34TH THE DAY WE HAD THE BIG FIRE OUT THERE, THEY WERE OVER US THE WHOLE TIME. HAD WE NEEDED THEM. ALL THAT HAD IT DONE WAS REQUEST [00:10:01] A LAND AND PICK SOMEBODY UP. BUT AT THE TIME WE WERE PRETTY MUCH GETTING FROM THE GROUND, BUT THEY WERE WATCHING THE WHOLE TIME. WE'LL, I'M SURE WE NEED THEM, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL TRY TO CHECK INTO THAT TOO. WELL, ONCE AGAIN, LARRY, THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR HELP AND, AND I THINK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS BE COMMENDED, UH, MOTION THEN TO KEEP THE BURN BAND AS IS THE BURN BAND. THIS IS NOT THE EMERGENCY, BUT THIS IS A REGULAR BURN BAND IN EFFECT FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS. SO NO MA THANK MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD SAYING BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. KEEP US POSTED. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSION. CONSIDER SITTING THE 2006 HOLIDAY SCHEDULE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE SENT YOU A COPY OF, UH, WHAT WE RECOMMEND FOR THIS COMING YEAR, WHICH IS SAME AMOUNT AS WE HAD LAST YEAR. JUDGE. YES, SIR. ANY COMMENTS? PUT ENTERTAIN MOTION. HOW MANY DAYS IS IT? IS THAT 13TH? IT'S 11, I THINK. NO, NO, LET'S SEE. 14, 12, 13. 13. NOT 20 IS SOME, UH, WROTE IN THE NEWSPAPER. YEAH, I HEARD ABOUT THAT. UM, THERE WAS A LETTER TO THE EDITOR IN THE KAMAN, UH, SAYING THAT HE DISAGREED WITH THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES GETTING 20 HOLIDAYS A YEAR. I THINK HE CAME UP COST THOUSAND. YEAH, HE SAID IT COST US A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY. WELL, IT WASN'T QUITE 20, LIKE YOU SAID, AN ARTICLE WEDNESDAY, DALLAS MORNING NEWS. DECEMBER 21ST. I DUNNO IF Y'ALL SAW IT, BUT ARTICLE IS TIME OFF PAYS OFF. IT SAYS THE FIRMS GET, GET BETTER PRODUCTION FROM YOUR WORKERS IF YOU GIVE THEM LITTLE TIME OFF. SO I'D THE MOTION, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL I GOT A CHRISTMAS CARD FROM ALL MY PEOPLE AND IT SAYS, BOSS, WHEN YOU'RE HAPPY, WE YOU'RE HAPPY WHEN WE'RE SAD. YOU'RE SAD WHEN YOU'RE ON VACATION. WE'RE ON VACATION. I ANY OPPOSED? MOTION? CARRIEDS, DID YOU WANNA PUT IN THE MINUTES? 13 IN TOTAL. . I THINK IF WE, THERE'LL BE AN ATTACHMENT THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, I I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, IN EUROPE THEY GET A CS DAY EVERY DAY . THAT'S WHY I GO HOME AND TAKE A NAP AFTER LUNCH. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING MARTY BAKER TO THE RURAL EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT. NUMBER THREE TO REPLACE JACK SMITH HART FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2006. WHERE IS PSD? THAT'S PRECINCT. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL UNTIL WE DO IT. AND WHO IS MARTY? I DUNNO. THAT'S SEE JACK RECOMMEND TAKE HIS PLACE. I DON'T DO WELL, I DUNNO. THE WAY I RESPECT JACK SMITH. SMITH JACK MATTER GOING AGAINST GOT ANY THOUGHT ABOUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I I KNOW YOU, THAT'D BE THE ONLY THING I WHAT ALL DOES THIS ENTAIL? [00:15:01] UH, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, SERVICE DISTRICT, UH, BOARD, THEY, UH, DETERMINE HOW THEIR MONEY'S GONNA BE SPENT THAT THEY TAKE IN, IN THAT FIRE, IN THAT DISTRICT. IN FIRE DISTRICT. IT'S NOT A FIRE DISTRICT ANYMORE. IT'S LIKE A BORDER. THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO MORE FIRE DISTRICTS. OKAY. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. YEAH. AND YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY DETERMINE WHAT THE TAX RATE'S GOING TO BE AND THEN THEY DETERMINE, UH, HOW THE MONEY'S GONNA BE SPENT AT THE TAKE IN. WELL, JUDGE USED TO BE ANYTHING THAT INVOLVED PRECINCT COMMISSIONER WAS, YOU KNOW, NOTIFIED YOU. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT COMMISSIONER GETTING. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. YOU HAD A WEEK. YOU HAD A WEEK TO I MARTY AND I COULDN'T FIND HIM. I, I'D JUST LIKE TO MEET GUY. I'D TO MEET GUY. GUY AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I, I, I LIKE THINK THE WORLD JACK SMITH ART. BUT, UH, NOW WHAT DID WE APPOINT PART TO THAT WAS WHAT BOARD WAS THAT JUDGE? SAME ONE. I GUESS IF WE WERE, IF WE APPOINTED HARVEY TO THE, UH, RURAL EMERGENCY SERVICE NUMBER THREE, THEN THAT'S THE SAME THING. AND I'LL CALL JACK AND I AND, UH, CAN WE TABLE THIS TILL NEXT WEEK? IF YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TILL NEXT WEEK. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD TO TABLE THIS TILL NEXT WEEK. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAIR? I ANY YOUR OPPOSES MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE FINANCIAL REPORT OF THE COMAN COUNTY RURAL EMERGENCY DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, A REPORT YOU DIDN'T, YOU WEREN'T SENT A COPY WHEN YOU GOT THE AGENDA. YOU SEE IT PREPARED BY RONNIE OFIELD, CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT IN THIS JUDGE. I'M SORRY. I KNOW A GOOD JOB. SO I I'D LIKE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FINANCIAL REPORT. OKAY, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO ACCEPT THE FINANCIAL REPORT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVORS. THE AYE. AYE. A MOTION CARRIES TO A NOTICE ON THE BACK PAGE OF THE REPORT. IT REFLECTS, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY, UH, THEY SENT TO EACH, UH, RULE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THEIR RATE IS STILL AT 3 CENTS. I TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE MOTION. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET DO ROAD WORK ALL WINTER LONG THIS YEAR. AL, YOU'RE UP. DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? YES SIR, WE DO. WE PROPOSE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER OF THE BUDGET FOR CHARITY'S POOL AND RELIEF DEALING WITH IN DEFENSE. AS YOU RECALL, WE JUST, UH, BUDGETED ONE NUMBER AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE SPLITTING OUT THE, UH, AMOUNTS FOR CPS, ET CETERA. SO WE'RE MOVING SOME OF THAT MONEY AROUND. AND THEN THE DA ASSET CHECK FUND, UH, INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSE, $602 WITH CONSTRUCION OFFICE SUPPLIES OVER BUDGET. UH, AMENDMENT THAT CORRECT. SOME THINGS IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION AREA. UH, $1,714. THEN WE HAVE SOME TRANSFERS FROM RO BRIDGE GENERAL TO THE PRECINCT. Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST. WE ENTERTAINMENT APPROVE THOSE. I [00:20:01] MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWNS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND I GUESS WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BILLS. YES, SIR. WE DO. YOU, IS THAT YOURS? THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I GOT ONE HERE. SAYS TAX CREDIT. WE TALK. OKAY. WELL, UH, YEAH, I, I, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS MORE BEFORE THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS OF MAYLAND. UH, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 9%. I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. NEED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. I KNOW WHY THE DOES. I SAW THAT, BUT IT THEY'RE NOT ASKING, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING HERE. THEY'RE JUST TELLING US THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA NEED. UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE BETWEEN THE WATER. I KNOW. I I DIDN'T EVEN RESPOND. I JUST, MY INITIAL RESPONSE WAS, WE NEED TO TALK TO THE CITY OF MAYBANK AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT WHEN THEY GET DONE. THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS CUTE. HE STILL GETTING OVER FROM YESTERDAY. THOSE FOUR COWBOYS, HOLY COW. COULDN'T EVEN GET A BREAK. AND YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE PEOPLE GOTTEN INTO THE EIGHT AND EIGHT RECORDS GOTTEN INTO THE PAYOFF ? THINK THOSE ONE YEAR SAN DIEGO HAD A LOSING RECORD. THE, THE HORN? YEP. I DID. DID TEXAS TECH ? DID I DUCK HOOK? TOUGH LOOK UP BOY THAT THAT BALL JUST WENT RIGHT IN THAT CORNER, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I THOUGHT THAT WAS NO DEAL. I HAD A CHANCE OF MAKING, BARELY MADE IT IN THAT, SITTING THERE WATCHING. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T DO THAT. WHEN HE STARTED RAISING HIS HAND, THE REFEREE GOT OFF WHAT LOOKED LIKE THE WORST KICK IN THE WORLD. 15 FEET. WELL, YOU HAD TO DO IS WATCH THAT CAMERA. IF IT DOESN'T DISAPPEAR, IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH OR THE GOALPOST DOESN'T DISAPPEAR. NOW YOU HAD A PRETTY DAY FOR, DIDN'T YOU? WERE YOU OUT THERE? WAS IN THE SOUTHEAST [00:25:01] CORNER SO THE SUN IS BEHIND. WAS IT THAT ONE? IT PRETTY, UM, USED TO BE WHENEVER THEY WERE FIGHTING FIRE, RED CROSS USED TO HAVE A WAGON. THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SANDWICHES AND DRINKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON FIREFIGHTERS. I UNDERSTAND. UM, NO, THEY, WE DO HAVE A BIG OUT RIGHT OF FIRE TO THAT, UH, THAT EMERGENCY ORDER ALLOW US TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT YOU RIDE WHEN, WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? HAVE IT? NO. OH NO. OKAY, HERE YOU GO. AMOUNT BE THE SAME AMOUNT. THIS FORM WAS LAST CRIPT. OH, THAT OTHER STUFF. OH GOOD. YEAH, I THINK WHENEVER YOU TAKE THOSE, UH, DO WE NEED A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH THE FIRE OR ARE THEY CONSIDERED PART OF THE, AND AND WHAT, WHAT MAY ME REMEMBER OF IT? I WAS TALKING WITH THE TWO FIRE CHIEFS MAY ON MAINER, SOMETIMES THEY GET A LITTLE GRASS FIRE AND ONE TIME WE TOOK A MAINTAINER OUT AND I DUNNO, WE NEED A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT. UH, OR YOU DON'T NEED, WE'VE GOT A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, WITH ALL VOLUNTEER PRODUCT PARTS AS SUCH. OKAY. NOW AND I THINK THAT ENTAILS ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. LOOK, YOU KNOW, AT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SCHOOLS, WHEN THE COUNTY JUDGE DECLARES AN EMERGENCY, WHAT US COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IS ANYTHING THE EMERGENCY COMM MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR TELLS US TO DO, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. ARE YOU? NO. IS THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER YOU SIGNED, IS THAT ONLY GOOD FOR CERTAIN DAYS? IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR THURSDAY. IT THURSDAY FOR ANOTHER SEVEN DAYS. I CAN'T DO IT FOR SEVEN DAYS. IT'S THE SAME THING. LIKE WE HAD A TORNADO COME THROUGH AND WIPE OUT MY STUFF AND THE SAME, SAME . UM, ONCE I ELABORATE A LOT ON IT, BUT I ONCE, ONCE IT, ONCE I DECLARED THAT THEN, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HESITANT. PEOPLE CRITICIZED NOT TO HAVE IT DONE EARLIER. UH, CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE RIGHT FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. UH, THE FACT THAT THE HOLIDAY WAS COMING UP, BILL, BILL HAS JUST BEEN A NORMAL, WE CAN'T, THAT MEANS THE REAL TRIGGER TO IT. RIGHT. THE FACT THAT IT WAS BURNING ALL THE WAY AROUND, JUST HAD A LITTLE BIT TO, WELL, IT WAS PREDICTED TO BE 80 DEGREES AND REALLY WINDY ON NEW YEAR'S DAY ON BOAT TO DO IT. SO, BUT IF LARRY TELLS ME THE CONDITIONS ARE SUCH THAT WE STILL NEED TO, THEN WE'LL DO IT ANOTHER SEVEN DAYS. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL PROBABLY JUST FALL BACK ON THE REGULAR. UH, I STOPPED IN THAT REALLY QUICKLY. WENT DOWN [00:30:01] THERE ON THE WAY TO THE COUNTRY CLUB. MM-HMM . TURNED IN THERE BECAUSE IT SAID YES, WE'RE OPEN. SO I STOPPED AND WENT IN THERE AND THERE WERE NO, THERE WAS NOBODY THERE. THAT WAS LIKE A SATURDAY, I GUESS. AND, UH, I ASKED HER, I SAID, HOW DOES THIS BAND AFFECT YOU ALL? AND SHE SAID, WELL, WE CAN STILL SELL WHATEVER WE WANT TO, BUT WE HAVE TO TELL EVERYBODY YOU CAN'T FIRE 'EM. YOU CAN'T SHOOT 'EM ANYWHERE. . SO YEAH, I, I REALIZED IT WAS A LAW THING, BUT YOU CAN BUY IT, BUT DON'T SHOOT IT ANYWHERE. AND EVIDENTLY THOUGH, PEOPLE REALLY WEREN'T. AND THERE, AND WE WERE COMING BACK FROM DALLAS, UH, I FORGET WHAT DAY IT WAS, BUT ALL THOSE STANDS WERE ALL BY. THERE WERE HARDLY ANY, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE AFTERNOON THERE WERE HARDLY ANY CARS IN THERE. WELL, PEOPLE WERE BEING ENCOURAGED TO, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BUY 'EM, THAT'S FINE. JUST SAVE THEM UP. YEAH. UNTIL WE GET SOME RAIN AND, AND IT'S OVER WITH BUSINESS. JUST LIKE ANY, YOU REMEMBER MR. WHO MADE A PRESENTATION TO US IN YOUR OFFICE? CONVERSATION HASN'T BACK NOW HE'S GONNA, THE CITY OF HIM TELLING ME THAT THE COUNTY WASN'T APPROVED. I TOLD HIM, YOU CONVINCE ME. WANT YOU START. OKAY. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT BIT STARTS TO LOAD AND UNDER SHED? THAT'S WHAT BOTHER ME. GIMME A, IT'S A, NOW THE, HERE I HAVE SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SUBDIVISION, IT WAS JUST A LONG ROAD AND THEY SOLD OFF LOTS ON EITHER SIDE 30 YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER. AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IS A LOW SPOT. AND THERE USED TO BE A DRAINAGE DITCH, BUT THE GUY WHERE THE LOW SPOT WAS PUT HIS DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. THE MIDDLE WHERE WATER USED TO DRAIN OFF AND NOBODY UP AND DOWN SOLUTION. [00:35:05] YEAH. JIM, WE'LL BE HAVING WORKSHOP ON THAT BEFORE TOO. DEFENSE. THAT'S JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. . GOD'S LISTENING NOW. , HE DIDN'T SAY HALF BEFORE. OH, OKAY. WHAT I'VE GOT, I GOT, UM, UH, 36 EPISODES OF WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE WITH STEVE MCQUEEN. OH, HOW COOL IS THAT? . SEE I HAVE ALL THE PES ALL YEAH, I YOU GOT, YOU GOT THE DEAD STEVE. YEP. AND NOW I WON EVERY EPISODE MATTER AND THAT WENT ON FOR A LONG TIME. ANY Y'ALL EVER WATCHED THAT LITTLE SERIES WAY BACK THERE? IT WAS STILL BLACK AND WHITE CALLED PRISONER. OH YEAH. THAT WAS BIZARRE BRITISH. YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WHEN THE, WHEN THE BALL, BIG BALL, THE BIG BALL WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ESCAPE OUTTA THE PRISON. IT WAS PRETTY COOL. IT WAS PRETTY COOL. UH, WISH I COULD REMEMBER THAT GUY'S NAME THAT WAS IN, HE PLAYED SECRET MAN, PLAYED ON I THAT THING. REALLY? NO. JAMES OVER? NO, IT WAS, UH, WHAT'S THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT WAS A GOOD SERIES BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFERENT. I, I GUESS FACTOR , THAT'S BASICALLY FOR ONE MONTH. YES. BUT, UM, THAT, THAT GUN THAT STEVE MCQUEEN CARRIED THE, THAT SHOW THAT SOUGHT OFF 30 30, COULD YOU IMAGINE THE FIREBALL, THAT THING WITH OUT AND IT'S LIABLE TO HIT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. . WHAT WAS HIS NAME? UH, RANDALL JOSH RANDALL. JOSH RANDALL, YES. WHO COVERED TRIVIA MIS ON QUITE BIT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. I THERE WAS ANOTHER SERIES THAT SAME TIME CALLED TRACK DOWN THAT HAD ROBERT. YEAH, HE WAS, IT WAS LIKE, UH, PEOPLE THAT AS WESTERN, LIKE THAT SAME THING WITH JOSH, STEVEN QUEEN, EXCEPT HE WAS AFTER PEOPLE THAT VIOLATED PAROLE OR GOT AWAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT SAME, IT ONLY THE SAME TIME? DID YOU NOTICE THAT BACK IN THOSE DAYS TEXAS LOOKED A LOT MORE LIKE CALIFORNIA THAN TEXAS . WELL, CALIFORNIA'S HAVING ITS SHARE PROBLEMS OUT WE'RE BURNING AND THEY'RE SLACK. THEY MAY GET RAIN ON IN THAT GAME TOMORROW OFF THE HILLS. WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE AT, UH, WE, DANA POINT THERE AT LAGUNA, LAGUNA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, LORI, WHEN WE USED HOMESCHOOL, LORI HAD TO WORK THERE FOR TWO WEEKS. AND SO THE KIDS AND I RIGHT WHERE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE SLIDES ARE THE KIDS. AND I WENT UP EXPLORING DOWN THE BEACH AND THERE WERE THESE SEA CAVES BACK INTO THE HILLS AND THE KIDS AND I WENT WAY BACK INTO ONE OF THOSE CKS AND THEN, AND WE GOT BACK THERE. I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THERE'S AN EARTHQUAKE, THIS IS WHERE I WE'LL BE BURIED. . SO WE SKIED OUT RIGHT BACK OUT THERE. BEACH. DID YOU? YEAH. DID ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE MATTERS THIS POINT? I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ELSE. THEY WERE REALLY WORRIED THAT THEY WEREN'T MAKING IT BECAUSE THE REPORT THEY GOT BACK FROM THE AIR DOWN THERE WAS REALLY BAD. THEY MILES DOWN, THEY WERE FIVE OF US IN THE MARINE CORPS WENT TOGETHER AND BOUGHT US, UH, AN OLD DOPA. AND ON WEEKENDS WHEN WE PUT WEEKEND LIBERTY WHERE WE'D GO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE BEACH AND NEWPORT BEACH AND UP THERE AND SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, PARK THE, UH, CAR ON THE BEACH AND SPIN THE BACK. SOMETIMES WE RENT THE CAR. SOMETIMES WE JUST LAID ON, [00:40:01] ON THE BEACH. A BEACH AND NEWPORT BEACH THAT WERE INTERESTING PLACES. UM, WELL IN UM, APRIL MY BROTHER GETS TRANSFERRED FROM ALABAMA TO HAWAII AND THEN IN JUNE OF COURSE HE'LL GET SET UP, GET IN HIS APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, GET HIS CAR SHIPPED OVER AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN IN JUNE HE GETS SHIPPED TO IRAQ FOR A YEAR. BUT HIS STILL BE THERE IN HAWAII . SO I I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY A, SO MY ENTIRE FAMILY TAKING THE TWO YEAR LONG. SO GOT 10 GRAND, CONVICT SOME SELLING DOPE. CONVICTED IT. DO YOU REMEMBER IF THERE WAS A TRIAL OR A PLEA? I DON'T RECALL. THEY STILL DON'T GET IT. MAYBE THEY KNOW, KNOW JUDGE TIGER. I LAWYER'S NAME NOT REAL OFTEN. I'VE SEEN BEFORE. YEAH, WE NEED OCA ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU WANT THAT COLLECTION AGENCY? THAT JAIL THERE PLAQUE THERE ON THE WALL OR SOMEPLACE THAT WAS TAKEN OFF AND OH, IT WAS OUT, IT WAS OUT FRONT. IT WAS OUT FRONT AND IT'S GONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. MR. PORTER SAID IT'S IN THE BACK. IS THAT, IS THAT ONE THAT YOU TOLD ME IS THE ONE THAT WAS OUT FRONT OR THE ONE OR THAT WAS THE ONE? I THINK IT'S THE ONE UP FRONT. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ONE INSIDE. THERE'S ONE FRONT AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE'S THERE. TWO TRIALS CASE. IT'S BEEN OVER SINCE MARCH. SINCE MARCH, MARCH OF OH FIVE. IS THIS THE, IS THIS THE ONLY ONE OR? OKAY, IT WAS A SMALL ONE THAT YOU HAD. SHE HAS, UH, ONE THING BEFORE WE MOVE. WELL I TAKE MO MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS. PAY THE BILLS. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I MOTION CARRIES. UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ITEM ON JACK. ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT NEXT TIME? YES SIR. ALRIGHT. KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE HEADS UP. UM, THIS, UH, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BILL AND LISA BEEN GOTTEN IN THE [00:45:01] WAY OUTTA HAND AND I TOLD Y'ALL THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN OUTTA HAND AND WE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE IT BACK AND JACK'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT. AND UH, UH, NOW THEY WANT 7,000 AND SOME ODD SQUARE FEET AND, AND THAT TAKES EVERY INCH OF WHAT'S LEFT OUT THERE. UH, I'M RELUCTANT TO, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING, JACK HAD AN ESTIMATE ABOUT $250,000 TO GET IT THE WAY THEY WANT IT. AND THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING THE, I GET THIS, THE TEXAS LANDSCAPING OUTSIDE . . OKAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY TAKE A LOOK AT AT, AT WHAT, I MEAN WE THOUGHT, AND, AND I KNOW KEN WORKING ON, BUT, AND I KNOW YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE JUST GO OUT THERE AND LET MR. PORTER GET BILL SOME OFFICE SPACES WITH SOME TRUSTEES, BUT IT'S GOTTEN WAY BEYOND IT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY CAME OUT THERE AND SAID THAT THEY WANTED. NOW 7,000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ALL ALONG. THERE'S 12,000 SQUARE FEET THERE. AND WHEN WE LAID IT OUT, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR, UH, THE LOBBY AREA AND COURTROOM, YOU KNOW, OFFICES FOR US BESIDES THE 7,000 FEET. BUT WELL, ACCORDING TO THE DIMENSIONS THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN NOW, UH, AND THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO PAY FOR CERTAIN AREAS. THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO PAY FOR THE FULL 7,000 FEET SQUARE. UH, THEY WANT USE COMMON AREAS AND BATHROOMS AND STUFF THAT PAYING FOR, RIGHT? YEAH. ANYWAY, UH, WE'RE GONNA, I'VE GOT IT ON AGENDA TO DISCUSS NEXT WEEK, BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. UH, AND ALSO, UH, I THINK WHATEVER WE DO BEFORE, WE SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY OUT THERE EXCEPT FOR FINISHING OUT THE COURTROOM. UH, WE'LL PROBABLY WAIT AFTER MAY TO, TO MAKE THE DECISION. UH, THE WAY JACK'S GOT A FIGURE WITH WHAT PBS AND JAY GAVE HIM THE FIGURES. UH, IT MAY TAKE US, UH, A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS TO RECOUP THE MONEY WE HAVE IN IT. AND I KEEP REMINDING PEOPLE AND JACK DOES TOO, THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE READY BUSINESS. SO, BUT ANYWAY, JUST WANNA TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT, UM, THE BIG THING THAT THAT'LL BE COMING UP NEXT WEEK, WE'LL DISCUSS IT THEN. WELL THEN THE INTENTION WAS TO, YOU KNOW, TO, IF WE COULD HELP AND GET CCP IT IS OUR KIDS THEY'RE DEALING WITH YEAH. WE CAN HELP PROVIDE SPACE AND THE COUNTY GETS REIMBURSED FOR WHAT WE HAVE INVESTED, THEN THAT'S A GOOD ARRANGEMENT. IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TWO ONEROUS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO PRIVATE ENTERPRISE AND GET OFFICE SPACE. I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA BE SO HAPPY AND GET OUTTA WHAT THEY WERE OVER HERE. THAT'D BE WELL THEY WOULD BE. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT THE LOCAL OFFICE WOULD BE THRILLED TO DEATH TO GET OUT OF ANYTHING. AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SAD PART IS THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE WOULD BE THRILLED TO DEATH TO MOVE INTO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. UM, AND IF WE COULD NEGOTIATE WITH THESE PEOPLE, IT'D BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. RIGHT. OKAY. UH, HOPE Y'ALL HAD A GOOD WEEKEND EXCEPT FOR TECH LOSING YESTERDAY. HAL AND I HAD VERY GOOD WEEKEND SIR. AND JERRY. YEAH, JERRY. JERRY ALL UPSET. YEAH. HAVE TECH TIES. UH, BUT WEDNESDAY NIGHT WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COHORT TEXAS TEAM. YEP. SO IT'S HARD TO TURN THIS INTO THIS. YEAH. UH, OF COURSE HE ENDS UP GOING THIS WAY EVERY TIME HAVING A YOUNGEST SON GRADUATE FOR YOU. COME DOWN THERE. SO PUT LITTLE PRESSURE ON YOU TO BE FULLY SO. WELL WE, UH, I GUESS THE, UH, POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS ARE LINING UP NOW SINCE YESTERDAY WAS A FOLLOWING DEADLINE. I'M BE AN INTERESTING SPRING. UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DID WE PAY THE BILL? YES, WE DID. WELL, THE LAST CHOICE IS, UH, THE LAST QUESTION IS, DID THE DALLAS TEXANS GET NO ONE DRAFT PICK ON PURPOSE? DID. PROBABLY, DID Y'ALL HEAR JIMMY JOHNSON TALKING ABOUT IT? HE SAID WHAT THEY NEED TO DO NOW. TAKE GOT NUMBER ONE PICK TRADE HIM FOR ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE HIGH HIGH DRIVE PICKS AND GET 'EM A FOOTBALL TEAM FIRST. WALKER WON THE SEVERAL SUPER BOWLS, AT LEAST THREE OF THEM. [00:50:02] WE OKAY. WELL WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ADJOURN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROW. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION. CARRIE ADJOURN. HERSCHEL WALKER. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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