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A DEER INSPECTED OUR, THAT'S NOT, I DUNNO IF IT AN EXTRA STRONG AND THE ONE I USED.
DO I HAVE JERRY, CAN YOU SET? WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH.
OKAY, LET'S COME TO ORDER NOW, PLEASE.
I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER LEONARD TO OPEN THIS UP TODAY.
I'M GOING TO JIM GREER, PRAYER OF GRATITUDE.
YESTERDAY, I WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL WITH, UH, SOME CHEST PAINS, UM, UH, HAD AN ANGIOGRAM, AND, UH, DOCTOR FOUND A SMALL, MEDIUM-SIZED ARTERY THAT WAS 90% BLOCKED, GOT IT FIXED WITH A STENT.
AND I FEEL BETTER NOW THAT I FELT A LONG TIME.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T REALIZE YOU FEEL BAD UNTIL YOU CAN GET OXYGEN IN, BUT, UH, I, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY AND THAT YOU LOVE US WHEN FATHER, WE, WE SOMETIMES DO OTHER THINGS AND PUT OUR PRIORITIES IN THE WRONG PLACE.
FATHER, ME, THANK YOU FOR, FOR GIVING US AND FOR, FOR GIVING US IN, IN ETERNITY WITH YOU.
IF, IF WE FOLLOW YOU, FATHER, ME, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THIS BODY AND FOR THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY AND THIS STATE, AND THIS COUNTRY.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU, THAT YOU GUIDE, GUIDE US AS IN OUR, OUR DECISIONS AND BE WITH YOUR PEOPLE HERE IN CAMAN COUNTY.
CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM, KEEP THEM SAFE AND JESUS.
AND FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH ANGIE'S FATHER-IN-LAW'S FAMILY, AND, AND WE GRIEVE
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HIS DEATH OF THE DEATH OF JERRY, JERRY ROSS.AND FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THEM AND COMFORT THEM AND, AND HELP, HELP FOR ANGIE TOO, UM, TO SUFFER THROUGH THAT GRIEF AND GET BACK SOON.
Y'ALL BRIEFLY THEN PROVIDE A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
WE'LL, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
MOTION CARRIES THE WAY OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
I AND WE TASKED THE FLOOD, UH, CLAIM MANAGEMENT COURT ORDER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
NOW I HAVE THE DOCUMENT THERE OFF.
OKAY, FIRST THING I HAD ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE NECESSARY THIS MORNING.
SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, MR. LARRY EWING, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE STATUS OF THE COUNTYWIDE BURN BAND CAR MARSHALL, LARRY EWING.
NOT THAT I, THE FIRST PAGE IS JUST SHOWING WHERE BY THE FORESTRY SERVICE WHERE THE, THE BURN BINS AND THE EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS ARE JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
AND THE SECOND PAGE OF IT, IF YOU LOOK AT, ACTUALLY SHOWS THE PREDICTION FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
THE DROUGHT INDEX LEVEL CURRENTLY AS OF THIS MORNING FOR OUR COUNTY WAS AT 427.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE PAST THAT 5 75 WAS QUOTE, THE MAGIC NUMBER FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO BY THAT NUMBER, WE'RE FAR BELOW THE LEVEL.
THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK YOU GENTLEMEN PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT AND CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAN I, ONE THING BEING THE DISASTER DECLARATION.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT IF WE DECIDE TO REMOVE THAT AT THIS TIME, WHETHER IT WOULD AFFECT US.
I KNOW WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT THROUGH KATHY PAGEANT'S OFFICE OF GETTING DATA AND INFORMATION TO TRY TO GET FUNDS BACK FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN OUT ON.
SO WE HAVE THAT THING TO CONSIDER.
AND, UH, ALSO IN A, AS OF TOMORROW, WE'LL BE BACK INTO A RED FLAG DAY.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST ONE SIDE TO THIS TO BE LOOKING AT THE OTHER DROUGHT INDEX LEVEL LOOKS GREAT AT THE MOMENT IF WE USE THAT AND THAT ONLY THEN, OF COURSE WE WOULD PROBABLY REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, DROP THE BURN VAN, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE JUDGE WOULD KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT, UH, DISASTER DECLARATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT MS. PAGEANT'S TRYING TO GET TOGETHER FOR US THAN I WOULD, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD AFFECT US.
WHO KNOWS IN TWO WEEKS WHAT IT WOULD MIGHT BE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING GOOD RIGHT NOW.
UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TRY TO JUST, UH, LEAVE IT FOR TWO WEEKS AND THEN WE WILL REVIEW IT AGAIN TO SEE IF IT LOOKS LIKE EXTENDED PERIOD, IT'S STILL GONNA MAINTAIN A GOOD OUTLOOK, WE COULD DO THAT.
OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO BY THE ONE ZERO NUMBERS ONLY, THEN YOU CAN DROP IT AS OF TODAY.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED TO DISCUSS HERE THIS MORNING BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL'S CONSENSUS WOULD BE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER? NO, SIR.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I, I, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD MY WAY THERE'D BE NO SUCH THING PERIOD
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EVER EXCEPT BY SOME SORT OF A PERMIT.YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TIME TO DO, BUT, UH, IT LOOKS GOOD RIGHT NOW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE DID DROP IT RIGHT NOW, WE STARTED HAVING ANY GRASS FIRES ON MY SIDE, ON THE, ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU CAN'T GET OUT THERE TO FIGHT 'EM.
NOW, COMMISSIONER SEAN SAID THAT ON HIS SIDE, YOU PROBABLY COULD, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENCE IN SOIL.
SO IF WE HAD A BIG GRASS FIRE OVER ON LOT PART OF THE COUNTY, YOU COULDN'T DRIVE A VEHICLE OUT THERE TO GET TO IT.
AGAIN, ANOTHER CIRCUMSTANCE, IT MIGHT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST LET IT STAY ON FOR TWO MORE WEEKS AND THEN GIVE IT ANOTHER SHOT AND SEE WHAT THE REAL EXTENDED OUTLOOK MIGHT BE.
BUT BASING ON ONLY THE INFORMATION FROM THE QUALITY SERVICE, WE COULD DROP IT TODAY.
UH, THE DALLAS NEWS MEDIA HAS BEEN STRESSING ALL MORNING ABOUT, WE'LL BE MOVING BACK INTO EXTREME FIRE DANGER TOMORROW.
BECAUSE OF COVID SOUTH WIND COMING IN AND THE RED FLAG IN YES SIR.
AND, UH, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEAVE IT ON FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.
YEAH, THIS IS EASIER TIME TO BUY TIME FOR US.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUS TO GET RID OF THIS SO THEY CAN START, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BAIL OUT OF IT TOO QUICKLY AND, UH, CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S EVEN WORSE.
SO, UM, UM, THE MOST POIGNANT THING I SAW WAS A REPORTER STANDING IN THE POURING RAIN AND SAY WITH AN UMBRELLA SAYING, OKAY, AS SOON AS THE RAIN'S OVER, YOU CAN'T FORGET WE'RE STILL UNDER A BURN BAND.
AND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T BE LOGGED INTO THINKING IT'S SAFE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE DRY WHEN ALL OF THIS IS OVER WITH OUT SO MUCH.
OH, WE'RE YOU BE THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S AS TOMORROW WE, AND YOU KNOW, IN Y'ALL'S, IN MY PRECINCT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF, WE WORKED WITH Y'ALL.
SOMEBODY STARTED A, A BIG, YOU KNOW, BIG PILE OF BRUSH ON FIRE.
THEY THOUGHT THEY, THEY WERE OKAY GOING AHEAD AND STARTING IT, AND THEY STARTED, IT STARTED BACKFIRES BACK IN THE WOODS.
UM, WE HAD TO GET, WE HAD TO GET A BACKHOE OUT THERE AND MCCLENDON CHISHOLM FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED, AND I, AND I, I SAW THE BILL FOR WHAT IT TOOK TO PUT IT BACK OUT AND IT WAS FOUR, $5,000.
UH, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING TO PLAY AROUND WITH.
I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS TO CONTINUE FOR TWO MORE WEEKS AND THEN JUST SEE HOW WE ARE.
WE'RE POSSIBLY MAYBE GET SOME MORE RAIN THIS WEEKEND.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE MAY SEE A LONG TERM PREDICTION OF BEING ABLE TO BE IN THE SAFE ZONE AT THAT POINT.
RIGHT NOW, TO ME, THIS IS JUST A, IT IS TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW, AND I'M KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT IF WE TAKE IT OFF RIGHT AWAY, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA SET OURSELVES UP AND HAVE TO JUMP BACK ON IT IN TWO WEEKS AND PUT IT RIGHT BACK.
I WANT YOU TO MEET BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO, UH, KEEP IT ON FOR TWO MORE WEEKS.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROUTE DISCUSSION.
MOTION CARRIED, SIR, THAT ALL YOU NEED THIS MORNING? UH, YES SIR.
SOMETIME I NEED TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE MORE THING, BUT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK ON AN INCINERATOR.
AND I'VE GIVEN THAT SOME THOUGHT, UH, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE EMISSIONS AND, AND YOU ACTUALLY, THE PLANES COMING OUT.
I THINK THEN I THINK THEY SHOULD FOLLOW UNDER OUR BANK.
UH, I SPOKE BACK TO THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND IN THEIR STANDPOINT IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL, BUT THEY ALSO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO US ENFORCING EVEN MORE THAN WHAT THEIR RULES ARE.
SO THEY COULD, THEY PUT IT BACK ON US IF WE, SO CPI WAS OUT THERE LAST THURSDAY OR FRIDAY ONE SITTING BACK OFF THE ROAD WATCHING AND NOTICED THAT THEY BROUGHT IN TWO VERY LARGE DUMPSTERS.
I'M HOPING THAT THOSE DUMPSTERS ARE FAR TEAR DOWN THOSE PALLETS AND THROW 'EM AWAY.
BUT WE HAVE IS A COMPANY THAT, UH, HAS AN INDOOR INCINERATOR, UH, AND MEETS AN EPA AND, AND PCEQ STANDARDS AS FAR AS, AS AN INCINERATOR GOES AND BURNING.
BUT, UH, LARRY HAS ACTUALLY SEEN THE FLAMES COMING UP THE TOP AND SO THE QUESTION CAP CAME UP THAT THEY'RE LEGAL TO DO IT ACCORDING TO TCEQ, BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE LEAVING UP TO US LOCALLY WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO EXEMPT THEM FROM THE BURN VAN.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, BUT WE DON'T NEED AN ORDER ON THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? NO, THANK YOU.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE, OH, LARRY, ALSO, I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT IT IS DIFFICULT AND I KNOW YOU'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF HOURS AND YOUR HELPERS ARE TOO, BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS.
ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT WE HAVE IS, UH, RICHARD MURPHY TO DISCUSS
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AND CONSIDER PUTTING THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE UPGRADE FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY TAX OFFICE.MORNING, MR. THE, UH, TAX OFFICE GENTLEMAN? YEAH, WHAT'D THAT BE? OH, HE SAID THANK YOU AND I SAID GENTLEMAN, HE SAID YES, HE CALLS GENTLEMAN.
UH, THE TAX OFFICE USES SOFTWARE PROVIDED BY, UH, SOFTWARE GROUP.
UH, THE SYSTEM WE USE, THEY HAVE DISCONTINUED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE, THEY'VE GOT AN IMPROVED SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE NOW SELLING OR INSTALLING.
THEY'RE STILL SERVICING OUR SYSTEM.
UH, BUT THE NEW SYSTEM IS, UH, JUST A WHOLE LOT MORE EFFICIENT.
AND IN FACT, FROM THE PRESENTATIONS THEY'VE GIVEN US, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE, THE EFFICIENCIES WILL SAVE US ENOUGH MONEY IN NOT HAVING TO HIRE NEW EMPLOYEES AS WE GROW TO PAY FOR THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S PRETTY GENERAL THAT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE DO.
UH, THERE'S SOME TIMING PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
THERE'S METHOD OF PAYMENTS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS TO HAVE YOU APPROVE US, UH, GOING TO THE UPGRADED SYSTEM, THE SAME VENDOR, UPGRADED SYSTEM, AND APPOINT A COMMITTEE OF MYSELF AND GEORGE AND MAL TO RESOLVE THE TIMING ISSUES AND THE METHOD OF PAYMENT ISSUE.
THE METHOD OF PAYMENT ISSUE IS A BIG ONE THERE, SO, RIGHT.
THEY'VE AGREED TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE.
I GUESS NOW WE'RE UNDER A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND THEY CAN START THE NEW LEASE AGREEMENT TO INTERTWINE WITH THIS ONE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, WANT.
SO THAT, UH, I MEAN, UNLESS WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE WHERE IT ALL AT
SO Y'ALL, Y'ALL WILL INVESTIGATE NEW COME BACK COURT WITH WE, WE CAN FOR WHATEVER YOU, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS UNTIL GEORGE TOLD ME ABOUT IT, BUT THAT 1 44, THE BOTTOM LINE THAT THE TOTAL, WHAT'S THE COST? YES, SIR.
IT'S BEEN A WEEK SINCE I LOOKED AT IT, BUT THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE SAYS AMOUNT.
WELL, I THINK ALL WE CAN DO NOW, DICK, IS, IS GO AHEAD AND, AND OFFICIALLY POINT THAT COMMITTEE AND THEN LET Y'ALL WORK ON IT.
BUT I THINK ANY FINAL DECISION BE MADE OKAY.
SO, I MEAN, DEFINITELY WITH Y'ALL RECOMMENDATION, I MEAN, Y'ALL GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED AND THEN Y'ALL MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE BEST FOR THE COUNTY AND THEN JUST COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND A WEEK AFTER NEXT AND WE CAN DO IT.
CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA THEN? UH, WE'RE, WE'RE UNDER, BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF GETTING US SCHEDULED TO INSTALL IT, HOPEFULLY AHEAD OF THREE OR FOUR, FIVE OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE DOING IT.
I NEED TO GET A DECISION PRETTY QUICK.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET NEXT MONDAY, BUT NO, YOU NEED A DECISION BEFORE THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.
WELL, I GUESS THESE GUYS CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING IF THEY NEED TO, BUT, UH, REALLY, REALLY NOT.
IF IT'S, WELL, IF, IF THERE'S A COMPROMISE SOME WAY THAT YOU CAN APPROVE OUR GETTING IT SCHEDULED SUBJECT TO SUBSEQUENT APPROVAL OF THE COST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE AS FAR AS VENDOR GOES.
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO CONVERT TO EXISTING VENDOR.
THE QUESTION IS THE TIMING NUMBER ONE, AND THE HOW TO PAY FOR IT'S NUMBER TWO.
NOW, THIS IS FOR OUR REGULAR PROPERTY TAXES, I MEAN YES, SIR.
IT'S AN UPGRADE OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT THE TAX OFFICE IS USING.
ON OUR ARGUE, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THE URGENCY IS.
IF THE URGENCY IS THAT THERE, THE VENDOR HAS SIX OR EIGHT COUNTIES, THEY'RE CONVERTING OR PUTTING IN THIS SYSTEM AND WE WANT TO GET EARLY ON THE LIST SO THAT WE GET IT DONE BEFORE MAY, SO IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE GETTING OUT
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OF TAX STATEMENTS AND EVERYTHING FOR NEXT FALL.IF WE WAITED AND HAD TO DO THIS IN AUGUST, WE'D BE IN BAD TROUBLE.
PROBABLY HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.
ARE WE ON A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM NOW? YES.
WE'RE PAYING EITHER MONTHLY OR ANNUALLY.
I, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, DID YOU YOUR COPY? YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE I WHY JUST SAY IT.
THAT WAS MY ONLY, AND I KNOW YOU DISCUSSED WITH ME ABOUT THE TIMELINE, BUT, UH, I THINK PROBABLY GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, IF THE COURT WANTS TO, UH, AUTHORIZE YOU TO, TO WORK TOWARD A FINAL AGREEMENT AND WORK TOWARD IT, BUT, BUT YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT A WEEK FROM MONDAY FOR THE FINAL AGREEMENT.
Y'ALL GOT IT WORKED OUT AND HERE ARE THE DETAILS AND HERE'S EVERYTHING AND GET THE SANCTION FROM THE COURT.
ARE YOU GONNA BE, UH, ARE YOU GONNA BE OUT OUT OF POCKET WHERE WE COULD JUST AUTHORIZE LEGAL WITH A FINAL AGREEMENT AND SIGN OFF ON IT? OR I'LL BE AT THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL COUNCILS MEETING IN WASHINGTON, BUT I, WELL, IT MAY BE URGENCY.
I, I WE CAN, I MEAN, IF IT'S JUST FOR THAT, WE CAN MEET ANYTIME.
AS LONG AS IT'S SEVEN TWO HOURS OF ADVANCE.
UH, Y'ALL THE OPINION THAT, UH, WELL LET ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE DICK, UH, AND, AND, AND GEORGE AND HOW TO, UH, LOOK INTO IT, GET ALL THE DETAILS.
UH, AND IF A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE BY THE COURT BEFORE A WEEK FROM MONDAY, THEN KEN CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND GET IT DONE.
WELL, ACTUALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN IT HAS TO BE DONE AND WHETHER OR NOT I'LL BE HERE, IT, IT MAY BE THAT THE ONLY, THE EMERGENCY WILL GO AWAY, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO.
WELL, IF THIS DEALING WITH A SOFTWARE GROUP, A LOT OF TIMES A PHONE CALL TO THEM MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
WHAT MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW SECOND AND COMMISSIONER DEL ALL
SO THAT'S OUR COMMITTEE AND Y'ALL GET WORK ON.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A GIFT OF TWO HORSE TRAILERS FROM TAMMY D.
SHERIFF BURNS, I COME BEARING GIFT.
UH, THIS LADY, UH, DONATED THIS TRAILER TO US.
THAT'S, UH, SHE ACTUALLY BOUGHT IT FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEN DECIDED SHE DIDN'T NEED IT.
UH, WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE A TITLE IN THE COUNTY'S NAME AND IT'S SET UP FOR EXEMPT PLATES.
WOULD ENTERTAIN THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT GIFT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BELLA.
CONSIDER ESTABLISHING COSTLY CONCERNING EMPLOYEES BIDDING ON KAMAN COUNTY PROPERTY THAT'S BEING AUCTIONED BY RENEE LAKES AUCTIONEERS.
UH, JACK, YOU DISCUSS THAT WITH US.
I RECEIVED ANY CALL OF INQUIRIES WHETHER, UH, EMPLOYEES COULD BID ON, ON THIS OPTION.
I THOUGHT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO SET A POLICY TO THAT EFFECT.
UH, I RECEIVED SEVEN INQUIRIES BACK FROM OTHER COUNTIES.
FIVE COUNTIES LEFT THEIR EMPLOYEES BID.
UH, ONE COUNTY PROHIBITS IT, BUT THAT IT HAPPENS.
THE OTHER ONE SAYS THERE'S NOT REALLY SENSITIVE HAVING POLICY BECAUSE NO ONE ADHERES TO IT.
UH, I THE OPINION, YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH EMPLOYEE BIDDING ON AUCTION ITEMS. UH, I THINK IT UPS THE PRICE.
WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, UH, A POLICY THAT IF, IF YOU'RE AT A, A CERTAIN PRECINCT,
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UH, MAINTENANCE BARN, THAT YOU CAN'T BID ON ITEMS IN THAT AREA.THEY KNOW ALL PARTICULARS ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT.
UH, THIS IS AN OPEN BID TO THE, FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO COME IN.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANY I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
UH, I MEAN WITH EMPLOYEES BETTING ON IT.
THE ONLY PROBLEM I'VE EVER SEEN IN THE PAST IS IF, UH, ONE DEPARTMENT, SO SOMETHING AND THEY ALL KNOW ALL THE PARTICULARS ABOUT THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
THEY HAVE THE INSIDE TRACK, IF YOU WOULD, OTHER THAN THAT.
BUT IF THEY HAD AN INSIDE TRACK AND GOOD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND OTHER PEOPLE FITTING UP, LIKE YOU SAY, THAT WOULD TO GO UP, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AND WHAT THE MONEY COMES FROM AN EMPLOYEE OR, OR FROM ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
I DON'T SEE WHAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE.
ANY, ANY OTHER
I KNOW OF ONE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD WITHOUT GETTING INTO IT IN DEPTH AND THAT IS THAT, UH, A CERTAIN AREA THAT, UH, SOME WIRES WERE CROSSED ON THE VEHICLE AND THEN AFTER SATURDAY STARTED UP IT RAN LIKE
THAT'S THE ONLY BAD I'VE, UH, BUT LIKE JEFF MENTIONED, IT JUST BRINGS THE PRICE UP AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
UH, I STEPS GONNA PROBABLY GO MORE THAN WAS THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE DID ANYWAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
THE ONLY WHAT CROSSES MY MIND IS I THINK HELP ME OUT SHERIFF.
CAN, CAN, CAN THE SHERIFF'S EMPLOYEES BID ON THREE YOUR OPTION? WHEN WE WERE RUNNING OFFICER OUT THERE IN THE PAST, I PROHIBITED THEM FROM BIDDING ON ANYTHING OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THIS ACCIDENT APPEARANCE.
LET THEM, THEY KNEW THAT, THAT NO EMPLOYEE CAN BID ON THAT.
WE HAD THE LIVE AUCTION OUT THERE ON SITE.
THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS THE IMPROPRIETY APPEARANCE.
WELL, AND IF WE HAVE THAT POLICY, THERE'S NOTHING TO GO STOP 'EM FROM GETTING A FRIEND TO BID ON, BID ON, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IT, I EVEN AT THAT, THAT KEEPS US, YOU KNOW, THAT KEEPS US IN CLEAR THAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT POLICY.
WE WON'T EVER BE ACCUSED OF EMPLOYEES GETTING INSIDE TRACK, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, AND IF THEY DON WANT BUY, LIKE SAY THEY, THEY CAN JUST GET A BREAK.
WELL, I COULD SAY FIRSTHAND THAT WE HAD POLICY AT RICHON WHERE YOU COULD NOT BE IT, BUT ON SATURDAY MORNING YOU LOOK AT THE CROWD AND YOU SAW ALL KIND OF EMPLOYEES OUT THERE.
AND THEY MAY HAVE THEIR FATHER WITH THEM OR BROTHER, BUT IT GOES ON.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN POLICE IT.
UM, SAID THAT I, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MAKE A POLICY THAT, UM, EMPLOYEES ARE PROHIBITED FROM LIVING ON THESE OPTIONS.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO PROHIBIT EMPLOYEES FROM LIVING AT THE AUCTIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TELLER.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACCEPTING AND RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL SOLID WASTE PROGRAM FOR KEMP, TEXAS IN
I HAVE, UH, I'VE GOT ALL MY T'S CROSSED AND MY I'S DOTTED, UH, HAD AN INSPECTION BY THE LADY FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, I DENTON.
AND SHE SAYS THE ONLY THING I NEED IS TO APPOINT, UH, AN ENGINEER, WHICH I SAID WE HAVE PB, S AND J.
UH, AND ALL I NEED IS THIS RESOLUTION ACCEPTED AND I'LL GET IN MY GRANT.
UH, I'M ADVISED THAT, UH, THURSDAY'S, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S, UH, EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING THAT CALTON COUNTY HAD ALREADY GOTTEN, OR WE WILL BE GETTING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AWARD TOWARD THIS PROJECT.
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AND, UH, WE'RE STILL COMPETING WITH, UH, SOME MORE FOR THE, UH, REMAINDER 200 SOME ODD THOUSAND.BUT, UH, UH, THERE SEEMS TO BE NO NICKS AGAINST US.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, UH, MS. GRAM SAID, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT.
I JUST NEED TO GET THE RESOLUTION.
AND THE ONLY QUESTION WAS, WHO'S GONNA BE OUR ENGINEER? GIVE THE FIRST ENDORSE OF THE DESIGN.
UH, I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH, WELL, I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH, UH, THE WATER PEOPLE, THE ELECTRIC PEOPLE, STIC.
UH, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL, ALL READY TO GO.
ALL I NEED IS A RESOLUTION AND YOU MAKE THAT MOTION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
CONSIDER APPRO A 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT FOR COUNTY ROAD 40 75.
WE AUTHORIZED A 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BRINGING ROCK TRUCKS UP OTHER THAN THE OLD NEW FARM THAT ALL MAKE FARM DOWN THERE IN PEEL TIME IN THE BOTTOM.
THEY'RE NOT BRINGING 'EM LOADED, BUT THEY BRING 'EM UP AND THAT PEOPLE ALONG THERE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SPEED AND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
NEXT I HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
UH, WENT TO AUSTIN AND THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH, UH, BUILDING.
UH, THEY HAVE A, UH, AN AGREEMENT WHEREBY THEY SAY THAT WE STILL DISAGREE WITH THEM, BUT, UH, THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT, UH, IN THREE YEARS THAT WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENT, UH, ARRANGEMENT FOR THE SECURITY OF THE COURTHOUSE.
COMMISSIONER DILL MAKES THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CONSIDER REPUTATION OF ERIC WILLIAMS TO THE
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWING.
I ASKED GARY BECAUSE I SAID, WHAT YOU GONNA DO FOR PRACTICE LAW ON A DAYTIME AND BE IN PATROL AT NIGHT? HE SAID, WELL, IT IS, IT'S RESERVE DEPUTY.
SO, UH, HE'S ALREADY HELPING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO NEXT DISCUSSION IS THAT, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THE SHERIFF RESERVE.
NEXT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE ATION OF DEBBIE BOGAR FOR THE COLTON COUNTY TAX OFFICE.
SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
NOW, MR. SHANE, YOU CAN MAKE THIS MOTION TO DE MARTHA BARBOSA FOR THE COMAN COUNTY TAX OFFICE.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO DEPUTIZE CARLY YATES FOR THE COMAN COUNTY TAX OFFICE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
WELL NOW Y'ALL GET ANOTHER CHANCE HERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THIS MORNING? YES SIR.
WE PROPOSE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FOR EXTRA HELP.
$115 OF REDUCTION OF THE SALARY OF CUSTODIAN AND IN THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT.
INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 500 WITH REDUCTION IN OFFICE FUNDS.
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ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SOME, UH, NOT GENERAL FUNDS, BUT OTHER FUNDS.UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO THE LAW LIBRARY.
AND THE JUVENILE PROBATION FOUR E PROGRAM.
Y'ALL HEARD LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE SALARY OF THE CUSTODIAN IS NOT CUSTODIAN SALARY.
THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE TWO PEOPLE.
SOMEBODY SAID, SOMEBODY SAID ONE TIME, I MEAN, THAT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR THE DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST ONE PERSON.
COMMISSIONER I JERRY, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK THIS MORNING? NO.
WELL, I KNOW A, SHE'S GOT DIABETES, LIKE WE'RE THERE FOR CHRISTMAS AND THANKSGIVING.
SHE CANNOT TAKE WHAT'S THAT? YOU DID? NOW THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE I KNOW SOMEBODY WANTED SOME OF THOSE.
THEY BASICALLY SAID TEAR UP THE TICKETS FOR MY LORD TRAVIS.
WE JUST GET THOSE TWO OR THREE PROBABLY.
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I, SO THE CHEAPEST 1 32.HEY GUYS, I GOT PANCAKE PAY FOR SIX BUCKS A PIECE.
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SHE ASKING ME? I SHE WASN'T ASKING.THIS IS, THAT'S MULTIPLE MONTH.
THIS WHOLE COURT GET, YEAH, JUST MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD THAT TIES JIM.
WE HAVE A, A WORKSHOP ON THE, UH, INDIGENT INDIGENT DEFENSES.
EL SUB DID, DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE ROCK WALLS ON ELECTRONIC FORMAT? THEY'RE FINISHED, RIGHT? 30.
THE SUBDIVISION ROCK WALL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
YEAH, WE HAVE THEM ALL FINISHED.
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR ONE AMENDMENT.
THAT'S THE DRAINAGE AMENDMENT THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON.
BUT EXCEPT FOR THE DRAINAGE AMENDMENT.
SO WE WE'RE READY GO DAY AND I'M GONNA DISTRIBUTE COPIES TO EVERYBODY THIS WEEK, SO WE SHALL FOR WORKSHOP.
SO, SO SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND SET UP A WORKSHOP TO GET WITH ANGIE AND PICK A DAY? YES.
AND I WOULD JUST LEAVE THE FLOOD FLOOD OPENING WHILE THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.
SEE WHAT THEY DID THEY STILL YES.
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DID YOU HELP ME OUT? RECALL FOR ME, DO WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE DOING SOMETHING? OKAY.AND KEN WAS DOING THE ROCK WALL, GETTING THE ROCK WALL ONE IN ELECTRONIC PERMIT.
AND UH, SHE WAS DOING THE FEES FOR THE DIFFERENT PARTIES BASED ON, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING DARK.
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL COUNCIL.
I ASKED MARILYN TO DO THE COMPARISON.
WE RECEIVED APPLICATION FEE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
WELL I'VE WORKED WITH CLARENCE BEFORE AND TALKED TO THE GUY AT, AND THEN WE'LL PAY HIM, HE'LL GIVE US, IT'S TWO MEETINGS AND YEAR ONE OF THEM WAS AT THE, AND THE ONE, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
ISN'T THERE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THE DEVELOPER PAY FOR A LOT OF THESE TESTS AND INSPECTION INSTEAD OF, I THINK WE PUT IT IN THE CODE THAT WAY SOMEHOW.
YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW WE HAVE, WE TAKE ALL THE EXPENSES AND WE DON'T CHARGE ENOUGH FOR THE MAIN REASON.
WE'RE THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE REDOING THE YEAH.
THE SUBDIVISION IS TO PUT THOSE CHARGES IN THERE.
WE JUST GET SOCKED WITH A LOT OF CHARGES.
THAT JUST SHOULDN'T BE OUR CHARGES.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY ROCKWELL CHARGES, ROCKWELL CHARGES $500 A LOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COVER IT ALL THAT WAY.
WE MAKE MONEY ON THE SMALL ONES, BUT WE LOSE MONEY ON THE BIG ONES.
BUT I MEAN, AND IF THE HISTORICAL DATA WILL WORK JUST TO KIND OF SHOW THAT TREND, THEN WE'RE READY TO GO AND WE WANT UP TO DATE INFORMATION FROM PBS AND IT'LL BE A LITTLE LONGER.
WELL AS SOON AS Y'ALL GET ALL YOUR INFORMATION TOGETHER, GET READY FOR A WORKSHOP.
WELL, I THINK IF WE JUST MEET WITH ANGIE AND JUST GRAB A DATE, IT'LL BE BE WEEKEND.
BUT JIM IS THE LAW SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
WE, UH, I MEAN WE HAVE NEARLY, I MEAN, COUNTYWIDE, WE HAVE NEARLY 50,000 HOMES SET SOME STAGE OF PLANNING AND UH, THAT, AND WE ARE IN THE POSITION WHERE ONCE ALL OF THOSE GET BUILT OUT, WHERE ARE WE GONNA BE AT RESOURCE WISE? SO, I MEAN, WE'RE TO THE POINT WHERE WE GOTTA START PROTECTING, PROTECTING OUR ANYTHING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THEIR CALENDARS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE THE FREE DAY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO THERE ARE NO FREE DAYS BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH.
HOW THEY FREE HALF A DAY BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH 7TH? THERE ARE NO FREE HALF DAYS.
HOWEVER, SATURDAY MORNING THE OTHER GUY DID Y'ALL SOMETHING TO DO? YOU NEED TO KEEP THIS, UH, WHAT'S TODAY? TODAY'S THIS WEEK.
WHERE'S THE DEPOT? TAR, WHAT THEY CALL GOING IN ON 34TH BEFORE YOU CROSS RAILROAD TRACK.
AND HAVE 'EM SHOW YOU, UM, WHEN THE S YOU KNOW, WHEN THE AFTER THE S AND LS WHEN BUST, THEY HAD JUST WAREHOUSES FULL OF STUFF WHEN THEY WERE REMODELING THAT THING.
AND SO THEY GOT THE SAVINGS AND LOAN PEOPLE TO LET 'EM JUST GO THROUGH AND PICK WHAT THEY WANTED.
AND THEY PICKED THIS OLD, BROKEN DOWN, YOU KNOW, UH, SIDEBOARD LOOKING THING.
AND UH, THEY SAID, WELL, IT LOOKS OLD AND LOOKS CLASSY TO BE ABLE TO GO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE IT FIXED.
THEY TOOK IT TO FORNEY AND HAD IT FIXED TO HAVE IT FIXED.
THE GUY'S JAW DROPPED AND HE SAID, THIS IS WAY OUT OF MY LEG.
HE SAID, THEY SAID, WHY? AND HE SAID, THIS IS A THOMAS CHIPPENDALE NOT A CO YOU KNOW, NOT A TOPLESS CHIPPENDALE MODEL.
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WAS MADE BY THOMAS CHIPPENDALE.SO I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A MUSEUM PIECE THAT BE IN THERE WHEN THE TRAIN COMES BY.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE INDIGENT ON THE 14TH.
SO WHAT DOES THE 21ST LOOK LIKE? 14TH OF FEBRUARY HAS ENDED THE COTTON COUNTY LEADERSHIP.
YEAH, BUT IT'S OVER AFTER LUNCH WORKSHOPS AT ONE 30.
WHAT ABOUT THE 21ST? YOU HAVE ONE OPEN? I'LL BE AT THE COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSION ASSOCIATION MEETING ARE GIVE MY SPEECH ON THE 21ST.
ARE YOU GOING, WHAT TIME IS THE SHOP ON THE 14TH? ONE 30.
I'M GONNA BE IN THE HOW ABOUT THE 28TH? WHAT A BETTER DAY.
WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK? THAT'S TUESDAY.
DO YOU KNOW IF KENNETH'S AVAILABLE? KEN AND JERRY? IT'S UP TO YOU.
YOU WANNA SCHEDULE IT? FRIDAY DAY? FEBRUARY.
YOUR BIRTHDAY, MY 50TH BIRTHDAY.
NO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? WENT TO TACO BELL BOXING FOOD, WENT AND SAT DOWN AND LOOKED AT MY RECEIPT AND THEY GAVE ME A SENIOR SITTING DISCOUNT.
I ALMOST HAVE FOR MY MONEY BACK.
THAT'S THE SUBDIVISION ATIONS.
I ENJOY ALL THE SENIOR DISCOUNT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK ME WAIT TO CHECK MY ID.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE COMING ON, I BELIEVE THE SEVENTH TO SHOW US THAT SOFTWARE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME AND IT WHAT'S UP? THE INDIGENT DEFENSE SOFTWARE SHOULD BE DICK PENNY.
THIS INT DEFENSE OR THE, UH, THE SAME SOFTWARE CAN BE USED.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT, THAT THE COORDINATOR WHO APPOINTS THESE LAWYERS OR THE WHO GOES THROUGH THE PAPERWORK SHOULD HAVE INFORMATION REGARDING THOSE PEOPLE'S, UH, INCOME, PROPERTY STATUS AND EVERYTHING.
THIS IS THE SOFTWARE THAT GATHER THAT INFORMATION.
BUT THAT'S JUST PART OF THE WORKSHOP.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT WORK AND SEE IT'S DESIGNED PRIMARILY FOR INDIGENT HEALTH WHERE SHE WILL HAVE THAT READ AVAILABLE.
BUT THE SAME PROGRAM CAN BE USED FOR THE INDIGENT DEFENSE.
OH, AND ALSO COURT COLLECTION.
UH, THAT I WAS GONNA ASK THAT JOHNNY, JOHNNY SENT ME AN EMAIL OR SENT ME SOMETHING.
THAT'S GONNA BE ALSO COLLECTIONS.
WELL, HE SAYS, CAN JIM DILL SAYS PAY THE BILLS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND JURY ROUND SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES.
AND HOW YOU CAN PAY THE BILLS.
SO IF JURY AND, UH, KEN WON, GO HOME.