* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] COMMISSIONER MARCH 6TH, 2006. THANK YOU, MA'AM COL. THIS MORNING. UH, WE'RE RUN, GOING TO BE ABOUT ANOTHER TWO MINUTES TO GET STARTED, BUT, BUT I THINK WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER ROUND TO OPEN US UP THIS MORNING. PRAY ON GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS TO DEBATE THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS, UH, THANKFULLY FOR SENDING US A BEAUTIFUL DAY LIKE WE HAD YESTERDAY AND THE DAY. HELP US TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A GIFT AND NOT A PRIVILEGE. PLEASE LOOK WITH FAVOR ON OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY AND BRING THEM ALL SAFELY HOME. ALL THIS WE ASK THE JESUS NEXT. UH, STILL NEED ABOUT A COUPLE OF MINUTES, BUT I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO, UH, SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. UH, WE KIND OF GOT Y'ALL HERE THIS MORNING UNDER FALSE PRETENSE, , UH, . WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET, UH, SOME OF THE CERTAIN VETERANS UP HERE TODAY. UH, WE HAVE, UH, SOME SPECIAL RECOGNITION THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT WANTS TO, UH, GIVE SOME INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE WANTED IT TO BE A SURPRISE, SO WE KIND OF CIRCULATED THE RUMOR OUT THERE THAT, UH, BESIDES THAT, WE WANTED, UH, ALL THE VETERANS HERE THAT WE COULD GET. SO I APOLOGIZE TO YOU GUYS FOR MAKING Y'ALL WORRY OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING UP AND SOMETHING WRONG, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE HAVE, UH, SOME INDIVIDUALS THIS MORNING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO, BUT I'M PROUD ALL OF Y'ALL ARE HERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT Y'ALL ARE HERE TO, TO, UH, AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M FIXING TO DO, AND I'M GONNA ASK, MEET ME DOWN FRONT. I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, RICHARD, UH, IF YOU COULD COME UP THERE, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, THE IDEA OF OUR VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, THE IDEA ORIGINATED BASICALLY WITH THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, MR. BRO, DON STOY, MEMBER GENERAL BECKER AND SERGEANT PETARE, UH, GWEN GODWIN AND DOLE WILLIS AND DOLE WILLIS, AND, UH, REX DE FLEMING. REX DE FLEMING. AND WHAT WAS THE COLONEL FL ROY CHAP AND ROY JAY ROY CHAPEL, WHEN THE IDEA STARTED AND, AND WORD SPREAD, IT SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE, AS YOU KNOW, AND DONATIONS WERE OBTAINED AND, AND IT WAS BUILT, AND IT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. I'VE, I'VE BEEN AROUND A FEW STATES IN THE UNITED STATES, AND I'VE SEEN THEIR STATE VETERANS MEMORIALS, AND I GUARANTEE YOU THERE ARE VERY FEW STATE MEMORIALS THAT CAN COMPARE WITH KAMAN COUNTY'S VETERAN MEMORIAL TO THEIR, TO THEIR VETERANS, TO THIS. FANTASTIC. AND IT'S GOOD. WE WANTED TO GIVE, UH, A PLAQUE, AND I'LL READ THIS ONE. IT SAYS, KAUFMAN COUNTY STATE OF TEXAS 2006, IN RECOGNITION AND SINCERE APPRECIATION OF RAY RAYMOND, CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YEARS OF HARD WORK AND THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE KAMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL, FOR WHICH WITHOUT YOU WILL NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE, KAMAN COUNTY VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THANK YOU FOR CARING. RIGHT. OKAY, CHANGES, SAYS, SAME. THE COMAN COUNTY STATE OF TEXAS 2006, IN RECOGNITION OF SINCERE APPRECIATION OF JAMES CROTCH, VICE CHAIRMAN, COMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YEARS OF HARD WORK IN THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL, FOR WHICH WITHOUT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE, COMAN COUNTY VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THANK YOU FOR CARING. THANK [00:05:01] YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, JUDGE. AND DICK. WE'LL WAIT UNTIL DICK GETS A PICTURE. , UH, WHEN DICK COMES BACK, WELL GETS BACK IN TOWN AND WE'LL BRING HIM IN AND, AND, UH, PRESENT HIS TO HIM. UH, DICK BRALET, AS YOU KNOW, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND, WAS NOT A VETERAN, BUT HE'S THE ONE THAT, THAT PUT ALL THE NAMES TOGETHER, DID THE RESEARCH, AND, UH, AND PUT IN HOURS TO, UH, GET THE MEMORIAL COMPLETED. AND I'M GOING TO LET DON HANG ON TO THIS UNTIL DICK COMES BACK IN TOWN, AND THEN WE'LL BRING DICK IN AND PRESENT IT TO HIM. OKAY. THANK YOU SO DICK BROWN, AND JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HANG ON YOUR WALL, SO, UH, THIS IS A SPECIAL RECOGNITION APPRECIATION OF JAMES RAUCH FOR ATION OF YOURS, OF HARD WORK ON THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY AFFAIRS MEMORIAL, FOR WHICH WITHOUT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, JAMES. THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET, HOW TO GET 'EM HERE, AND IT'D STILL BE A SURPRISE WE COULDN'T TELL 'EM, HEY, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN AWARD. COME UP HERE. SO WE KIND OF, UH, HAD 'EM, HAD 'EM WORRIED OVER THE WEEKEND THAT SOMETHING WAS UP THIS MORNING. BUT I ASSURE YOU, NOTHING IS UP, NOTHING'S WRONG. WE JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THESE GUYS AND MAKE IT BE A SURPRISE. SO, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU AND ALL OF YOU GUYS OUT THERE, GENERAL SERGEANT RE GWYN DEAL OUT THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK Y'ALL DID, UH, AND WE JUST WE'RE THANKFUL. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO THANK DON STORY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER THIS MORNING, UM, WITHOUT HIM. UH, THANK YOU. OKAY. Y'ALL BRIEFLY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE IDENTIFY A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DE ALL FAVOR, A MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM, UH, GEORGE. GEORGE. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS CONSIDERING ADVERTISING FOR BIDS FOR A NEW SOFTWARE FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UH, THE REASON FOR THIS ITEM IS OUR, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WE'VE HAD WITH DSA FOR MANY YEARS SINCE THE EIGHTIES, AND RENEWS GENERALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS, JUST ONCE AGAIN, AFTER RENEWAL IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, UH, SHERIFF WOULD LIKE TO PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF USERS, UH, IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO EXPLORE WHAT FEATURES, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE AND GO OUT TO BID. NOW, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY NOT GOING TO USE GSA, WE JUST WANNA OUT AND ADVERTISE FOR BIDS AND GET SOME INPUT FROM OTHER VENDORS, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET THE, THEIR BEST PRODUCT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UM, AS YOU RECALL, FIVE YEARS AGO, WHAT WE RENEWED WITH GSA, WE WENT FROM A PER UNIT OR A PER STATION PRICING TO A CONCURRENT PRICING MODEL. AND WHAT THAT DID WAS WE PAID BY CONCURRENT USERS. AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN WE OPENED THE NEW JAIL, TOTAL USERS WENT WAY UP. AND THEN AFTER WE WENT FROM ODYSSEY, FROM THE, FROM GSA OVER TO TYLER TECHNOLOGY, ODYSSEY COURTS, THEN IT SETTLED BACK DOWN ABOUT TO WHERE IT WAS. WE PRETTY MUCH STAYED THE SAME AS FAR AS OUR USER COUNT IS CONCERNED. UM, THE, A COUPLE PACKAGES [00:10:01] WE STILL USE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS STILL USES GSA, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE USES IT FOR INVENTORY. UM, IN SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PROBABLY USE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE GSA PART OF THE, OR THE, PROBABLY ABOUT 75% OF THE USERS ARE OUT THERE AT SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER A SPEC AS TO WHAT WE WANT, AND THEN GIVE IT TO JACK, OUR PURCHASING AGENT TO GO OUT TO BID. SO IT'S REALLY LACK OF RENEWAL THAT THEY WERE, IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE EIGHTIES. EVERY FIVE YEARS IT WOULD RENEW AUTOMATICALLY UNLESS THEY WERE NOTIFIED 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT. WE DON'T HAVE TO RENEW WITH THE SAME COMPANY, BUT IT'S, UH, AN ONGOING TYPE IT IS. AND THE DIFFERENCE IN, IN THAT MODEL AND WHAT PILOT TECHNOLOGIES WOULD, UH, BE, THAT IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WHERE YOU DON'T OWN THE PRODUCT, BUT YOU PAY THEM TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR INITIAL. WHEREAS WITH THE SOFTWARE GROUP, WE OWN THE HARDWARE AND OWN THE SOFTWARE, AND WE PAY AFTER WE OWN IT, THEN WE, OUR PRICE GOES DOWN AND WE PAY AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEE FOR LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AND SO ON. WE, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE, JUDGE AND, AND COMMISSIONS AND, AND, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN, CAN GET, UH, WE NEED SOME, SOME MORE APPLICATION OUT THERE FOR EVIDENCE HANDLING, UH, TO, UH, UH, AUTOMATE OUR JAIL RECORDS. UH, I THINK MOST OF YOU AWARE, OUR FILE ROOM IS OVER HALF FULL RIGHT NOW, AND WE'VE BEEN OUT HERE TWO YEARS. WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO, TO START, YOU KNOW, COMPACTING THOSE RECORDS. WE HAVE TO KEEP THOSE RECORDS. FEDERAL JAIL RECORDS, AGAIN, GET AWAY TO DO AWAY WITH IT. SO WE'RE MOVING NOW. UH, GEORGE IS WORKING WITH THE GSA TO GET TO WHERE WE CAN DO ELECTRONIC BOOKING AND MAYBE DO WITH SOME OF THAT PAPER, BUT, UH, IT'S, WE, WE'VE GENERATED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PAPER OUT THERE, AND NEARLY EVERYTHING WE DO HAS TO BE KEPT. UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A ARCHIVE DATE LIKE MOST OF THEM ON THE JAIL KEPT. SO, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE, THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES ALL THE TIME, AND, UH, WHAT WE COULD, UH, AND COMPARE THAT TO WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW, WHAT WE CAN GET FROM OUR CURRENT VENDOR. OKAY. MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. OKAY, GEORGE, LET'S SEE. NEXT WE DISCUSS THIS ADVERTISEMENT BID FOR A SYSTEM UPGRADE FOR DISPATCH CONSOLE TO SUPPORT BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. REPEATER STATION FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IS THAT THE SAME THING? NO, UH, UM, BRIEFLY, WHAT THAT'S ABOUT, I'M GONNA LET KATHY DEAL WITH THIS. SHE'S THE ONE THAT WORKS ON THE GRANTS AND IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE FUNDING. BUT BRIEFLY, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, NORTH CENTRAL OF TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS HIRED RADIO COMMUNICATION CONSULTING TO TELL US WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN THE REGION. AND NIPS BACK IS, UH, NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY DECIDED TO STAY WITH VHF AND UHF CONVENTIONAL RADIO AND PRETTY MUCH WENT AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF USING HIGH SPEED OR HIGHER FREQUENCY DIGITAL MICROWAVE WAY. WE ARE HERE IN COFFIN COUNTY. AND AFTER ALL WAS SAID AND DONE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US AN 800 MEGAHERTZ RADIO. UH, BUT THERE'S MORE TO IT. AND IF KATHY WOULD, UH, GIVE US A FEW MOMENTS AT A TIME, SHE COULD FILL YOU IN ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT. THE, UH, THE COG AND THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE ADMINISTER. THE GRANT DECIDED THAT SINCE EVERY JURISDICTION HAS TO BE INTEROP, HAVE TO HAVE, HAS TO HAVE A BASIC LEVEL OF INTEROPERABILITY THAT THOSE JURISDICTIONS THAT DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR GRANT FUNDS WOULD BE FUNDED UNDER A GRANT. HOWEVER, THEY WOULD COME UNDER THE BLANKET OF THE COUNTY. IN OUR COUNTY, WE HAVE TERRELL AND PONY AND KAUFMAN THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE FUNDING, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THROUGH THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT FOR THOSE CITIES AND THEN GIVE IT TO THEM ON A PERMANENT LOAN. WHAT THE, WHAT THE GRANT ADMINISTRATORS CALL A PERMANENT LOAN. SO WHAT WE HAVE NOT YET HAD A MEETING WITH THE CITIES. ALL THE CITIES KNOW THIS. EVERYBODY HAS GOT AN RFQ THAT THE RCC DID FOR THEM, AND I THINK THE TOTAL, 'EM, THAT'S ABOUT 190,000 FOR ALL FOUR JU FOUR JURISDICTIONS. BUT WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS IF THE COUNTY, IF THIS BODY WANTS THE COUNTY TO PURCHASE ALL THE EQUIPMENT FOR ALL THE CITIES, OR IF WE WANT TO DO JUST THE COUNTY AND LET THE CITIES GO OUT FOR BIDS ON THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT OR HOW WE WANT TO DO IT, THERE'S NO DEVIATION FROM THE EQUIPMENT LIST. THE RCCS GOT AN EQUIPMENT LIST, RQS ARE DONE, THEY HAVE TO BE PURCHASED AS WRITTEN. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WHOLE PACKAGE OR LET THEM, EACH CITY DO THEIR OWN AND COORDINATE THROUGH THE COUNTY TO GET IT. IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER? NOT [00:15:01] REALLY. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE CITIES FEEL ABOUT IT. LIKE I SAID, WE JUST, WE'VE JUST STARTED THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND SOME OF THEM, SOME OF 'EM KIND OF DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO DO IT FOR 'EM. SOME OF 'EM WANT TO DO THEIR OWN AND JUST SUBMIT THE COUNTY THE BILLS TO THE COUNTY AND YEAH. WAS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD WANT TO DO IT IF THEY DON'T WANT US TO DO IT? UNLESS THEY, UNLESS THE GRANT GUIDELINES SAY THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO PURCHASE ALL THE EQUIPMENT WITHIN, AND THAT, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT, DO WE NEED TO CHECK WITH EACH ENTITY TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO? THE ADVANTAGE TO US DOING IT, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE ALL EQUIPMENT AT ONE TIME AND WE COULD RIGHT. ALL COME UP TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE, IS GET IT ALL DONE TOGETHER. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PUSH IT DOWN THE THROAT, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FIND WHICH, WHICH DIRECTION YOU, YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO GO AND THEN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. OKAY. BUT IT'S ALL WITH GRANT FUNDS, EVERYTHING POINT OUT, UH, THE, UH, KATHY MENTIONED THE COG, BUT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING ABIDE BY COG HAVE COME FROM WAY UP ABOVE. THIS IS A FEDERAL MANDATE THAT EACH JURISDICTION HAVE A BASIC LEVEL, LEVEL OF INTEROPERABILITY AND, AND THE BASIC LEVEL IS RADIO. UM, SOME OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE REGION, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO GO WITH THE HIGH SPEED LIKE WE RADIO. SO YOU CAN ONLY GO AS FAST AS YOUR SLOWEST PERSON, PERSON. SO THAT'S WHY, I MEAN, WE'RE, OUR COMMUNICATIONS IS AS HIGH TECH AND, AND AS GOOD AS, AS YOU CAN GET, BUT NOT ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR, IN OUR COG AREA ARE THAT WAY. SO THAT'S WHY THE FEDS MANDATE, UH, THAT EVERYBODY STILL HAVE YOUR RADIO CAPABILITIES. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING KIND OF RETROGRADE. WE'VE GOTTA BE, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. AND ALL INTEROPERABILITY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BUZZ WORD NOW. AND, AND, UH, HOMELAND SECURITY IS DRIVING ALL THIS. WE'VE GOTTA BE ON BOARD. AND THE ONLY REASON THEY'RE DOING IT IS IN CASE OF A CATASTROPHIC EVENT. SO YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THE RADIO. WELL, I, IF WE JUST DID IT ALL OURSELVES, THEN WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GOT IT AT THE SAME TIME AND PROBABLY MAY MAYBE BE A LITTLE EASIER TO COORDINATE. YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, TO MAYBE SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AGENCY AT LEAST I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY COORDINATE WITH, WE COULD ALL, YOU KNOW, IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME GET IT AND COME UP TOGETHER. I THINK WE ALL NEED TO COME ONLINE. OKAY. I THINK, UH, I THINK IT'S GOOD. AND IF THAT'S WHAT THE, AND THE, THAT'S IT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD. THANK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DILLER. ALL COURTESY. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, WE NEED A DATE IS WHEN WE'RE GOING OPEN THESE UP. UH, I I DON'T WAIT, GEORGE, WE'RE NOT DELIBER READY FOR WELL, I, I THINK, SHERIFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE WANTED TO HAVE THE KEY USERS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PUT TOGETHER A BID SPEC AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE, UH, PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE GONNA FORM A COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE, AND LOOK AT EACH PERSON'S AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN COME UP WITH A GOOD BID SPEC. SO THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO MR. COURT SET DAY DAY. YEAH, BUT THAT'S FINE. WE, WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER ALL OUR BASES ON THIS LOT OF DIFFERENT, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS OUT THERE AND IT'S HARD FOR ONE PERSON SPEAK FOR EACH OPERATION OBVIOUSLY HAS A UNIQUE MISSION. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, TRY TO MEET THAT THEIR NEEDS. THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO COMMITTEE WILL. BASICALLY THEN WHAT Y'ALL ARE GOING DO GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND CONTACT THEM AND TELL 'EM WHAT COUNTY WANTS TO DO. AND THEN AFTER YOU WORK IT OUT WITH HIM, THEN COME BACK AND THEN WE'LL SET THE DATE TO OPEN THE BUSINESS. OKAY. GOOD. THANK Y'ALL. JOE DON WANTS TO PRESENT AS PRO RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO. [00:20:09] OKAY, GEORGE, YOU GOT ANOTHER ITEM DISCUSSED. CONSIDER FOR BID FOR A NEW SOFTWARE FOR THE CROSS COUNTY TAX OFFICE. UH, THINK MURPHY PRESENTED, UH, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I BELIEVE, THE IDEA OF GOING OUT TO BID FOR NEW TAX SOFTWARE. UM, AT THE TIME WE WANTED TO GET WITH THE AUDITOR AND DETERMINE IF, YOU KNOW, HE BELIEVED YOU'RE READY TO DO THAT. UM, FROM AN IT STANDPOINT, THE BENEFIT TO GOING TO THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AS THE COUNTY MOVES TOWARDS MORE GIS CENTRIC OR MORE MAPPED TYPE SOFTWARE, SUCH AS CARDIOGRAPH AND OTHER THINGS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MAPPING WE'RE DOING, THAT SOFTWARE HAS THAT CAPABILITY. SO FROM AN IT STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD BE A RESOURCE, UH, TO GO TOWARD THAT. I BELIEVE MR. MURPHY, HIS IDEA WAS IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THE USERS AND HE'LL BE HAPPIER WITH THE SUPPORT. AND, AND I GUESS WE'LL LET THE AUDITOR SPEAK TO THE FINANCIAL SIDE. IT DOESN'T COST US ANY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE'RE SPENDING. UH, WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL HAVE AN AMOUNT LEFT FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, TAX SOFTWARE, BUT I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UH, THE LENDERS AND THEY DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM ENROLLING THAT UP INTO THIS NEW PRODUCT. SO WE MAY WIND UP PAYING A LITTLE MORE THAN, THAN, UH, THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PAID. SO WE STILL TO RETIRE SOME OF THE OTHER DEBT. BUT A LOT OF THAT APPLIES TO HARDWARE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AND USING. SO IT IS NOT LIKE WASTED MONEY, IT'S JUST THERE'S, THERE'S DEBT OUT THERE THAT HASN'T BEEN PAID YET. SO WE CAN ROLL THAT UP INTO THE NEW, THE NEW PURPOSE. AND I'M SUGGESTING FIVE YEAR PAYOUT, BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY WE WERE ON A SEVEN YEAR PAYOUT, AND THAT'S A LITTLE LONG FOR TECHNOLOGY. OF COURSE, WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED ANYTHING FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS YET. BUT, UH, IN, IN DISCUSSING WITH THEM, IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. SINCE THIS IS MR. MURPHY'S DEPARTMENT. DICK, YOU WANT TO COMMENT AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO DO IT. NO, I THINK THE JUST FINE. THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED ON, ON OUR COMMITTEE AND, UH, IT ALLOWS US TO STAY WITH THE SAME COMPANY WITH THE UPGRADED SOFTWARE. IT ALLOWS US TO USE AS MUCH AS EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD. ALRIGHT, WELL, WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND THIS, UM, IF WE'RE UPGRADED WHEN WE HAVE GO THE BID. OKAY. I BELIEVE IT IS REALLY A NEW PRODUCT. IT'S, IT'S WITH THE SAME COMPANY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT WE, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR ALTERNATIVES AND, AND I BELIEVE IT DOES REQUIRE BIDDING AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDAS. CONSIDER BIDS FOR THE NEW SOFTWARE. WELL, THE COST IS RIGHT, AS LONG AS YOU'RE, YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE COST FIGURES. AL ANY COMMENTS? NO, AS LONG AS HAL'S OKAY WITH THE COST. THAT'S ALL. I, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON. SO MAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND. SAVED BY COMMISSIONER LER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE GOING, NEED TO DEVELOP A SPEC. I THINK WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, CLOSING THIS ON MARCH 31ST AND OPEN OPENING ON, UH, APRIL 3RD. OKAY. APRIL 3RD IS TON COUNTY TODAY IN AUSTIN. I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GONNA MEET NO MORE. OKAY. IF, IF WE DO, WE'RE GONNA MEET WITHOUT ME, BUT, UH, DO WE JUST DO IT NEXT WEEKEND? NEXT WE DO MONDAY. WE, UH, MIGHT WANT TO CLOSE ON, UH, APRIL 7TH AND OPEN ON THE 10TH. OKAY. THANK Y'ALL, SIR. NOW, JOE DON, IF YOU HADN'T GIVEN UP ON THIS , UH, GOT ONE, I I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY PAGE. COMMISSIONERS CAN GO THROUGH THAT. WHAT I AM GONNA ASK YOU IS ONE QUESTION. HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMPLAINTS REGARDING RACIAL PROFILING THIS LAST YEAR? NO, SIR. FROM JANUARY, 2005, DECEMBER 31ST, 2005, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SENATE BILL 10 79 RACIAL PROFILING [00:25:01] LAW. WE HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL. THAT THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN, UH, ITEM FOUR IN THE PACKAGE THAT I PASSED UP TO Y'ALL, ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, CONSTABLE LAW REGARDING THIS, UH, THIS REPORT? NO. THEN WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT. AMEND THANK MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIED. THANK SIR. THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE OUR SANDERS, OUR CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE WITH HIS, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS YOUR REPORT THAT WE ASKED YOU FOR ENOUGH, YOUR PROFILE REPORT. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. IN JANUARY, UH, I SAID MY DEPUTY HAVE, UH, ISSUED $11,498 WORTH OF TICKETS AND JP THREE CIVIL PAPERS SERVED WAS 7,750 OUT OF COUNTY. AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PAPERS $1,500 TAX PAPERS, THE AMOUNT OF THE SUIT, 45,681 WITH 27 STATE HOSPITAL PAPERS SERVED AND SIX EMERGENCY COMMITMENTS. IS THAT ABOUT AN AVERAGE MONTH, DO YOU THINK? IS THAT BIGGER OR ABOUT THE SAME? UH, YES, IT'S GONNA RUN CLOSE TO THE SAME, OF COURSE, THE TAX PAPERS PICK UP AND START PICKING UP HERE. BUT THE SPEED TICKETS AND THE REST OF THAT'S PRETTY MUCH AVERAGE. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SAYING ABOUT COMMISSIONER, ALL MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL HAVE IS MR. WE TO PRESENT THE COLTON COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTERS REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. SORRY. WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY. I'VE BEEN THERE IN A WHILE. UH, WELL, WE THOUGHT MAYBE Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIDS. WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAD LOTS OF KIDS. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY STAFF , SO I COULDN'T GET AWAY IF I WANTED TO. UH, OUR NUMBERS DROPPED, UH, A LITTLE BIT IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, UH, AROUND THE HOLIDAYS. THEY, UH, THEY GRADUATED A, A NEW BATCH OF FOSTER PARENTS OUT OF DALLAS COUNTY. SO OUR NUMBERS DROPPED, UH, AT THE END OF SUPPLEMENTAL DECEMBER, UH, FORMENTAL OF JANUARY. UH, BUT BETWEEN THE STEADY INCREASE AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST BACK TO NORMAL, WE RUN IN BETWEEN 13 AND 15 KIDS, UH, A DAY. AND WE DID LOSE SOME STAFF IN, UH, NOVEMBER, UH, LATE, WE LAID A COUPLE OFF AND THEN WE HAD TO, THAT THAT TERMINATED ON, ON THEIR OWN. AND WE HAD RECENTLY REPLACED TWO OF THEM. UH, BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE'VE LOST TWO MORE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL RUNNING A LITTLE SHORT HANDED. UH, BUT WITH THAT ADD OUT, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE STILL MAKING APPLICATIONS TO, UH, TO REPLACE SOME OF THOSE STAFF THAT WE LOST, UH, WE'RE SEEING A, A FEW MORE CALLS, UH, THAN WE DID OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. UH, WE'RE HEARING FROM THE CASEWORKERS THAT ALL OF THE FOSTER HOMES ARE FULL AND THEY'RE DRIVING THREE TO FIVE HOURS, UH, TO FIND FOSTER PRICES FOR CHILDREN. SO, UH, A LOT OF THE LOCAL, UH, COUNTIES THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH ALL THE TIME ARE, ARE, ARE CALLING US MORE OFTEN. UH, AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN A, AN INCREASE IN THE LENGTH OF STAY THAT THEY'RE LEAVING IN, UH, BECAUSE THEY ALSO ARE SHORTHANDED AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO TRANSPORT, UH, AS FREQUENTLY AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO. UH, BUT ALL IN ALL, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE RUNNING BACK, BACK TOWARD NORMAL. WE HAVE NOT HAD A, THE GRAY LIGHT HAD ANY INJURIES OR OUR MAJOR ILLNESSES IN, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS. UM, ALL BEEN THROUGH THE CLUES AND THE COLDS AND THE ALLERGIES. UH, BUT, BUT NOTHING MAJOR THAT, THAT REQUIRED EMERGENCY TRANSPORT OR, OR POSSESSION OR ANYTHING. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT HER REPORT WISH MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW. ALL IN FAIR WITH AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. DID, UH, RICK GET INTO JUDGING AFTER JUDGING THAT CHILI THAT NIGHT? YES, SIR. HE DID. [00:30:02] I DID TOO. WE HAVE 24 SAMPLES OF CHILI. THAT'S OKAY. BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA WANNA LET YOU KNOW, UH, MIKE CALLWELL. I JUST KNOW MIKE, UH, CAME BY A FEW DAYS AGO AND THEY RAISED ALMOST $6,000. YEAH. UH, AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT, UH, PLANS ON AND, AND ALREADY SHOP EQUIPMENT. SO I'M HOPING THEY'RE GONNA GET THE DONE LAUNDRY QUICK. WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, THEY GO THROUGH DIGITAL, UH, THEY GO THROUGH WASHERS AND DRYERS OUT THERE PRETTY RAPIDLY BECAUSE SO MANY KIDS. SO, UH, THE METHODIST MEN HAVE TAKEN ON AS THEIR PROJECT, UH, TO BUILD A, A BASICALLY A WASHROOM, UH, ADDITION TO THE BUILDING AND, AND, AND GET COMMERCIAL WASHERS AND DRYERS, UH, IN THERE WHERE THEY'LL LAST LONGER. AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IS, IS OPEN THAT WALL INTO THE PANTRY AND THEN JUST REVAMP THE PANTRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE BIGGER MACHINES. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. SO, AND I THINK, UH, WITH THE MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN IN THAT LAST CHILI DRIVE, UH, JUST ABOUT ENOUGH TO YES, SIR. DO THE PROJECT. I I THINK THEY'RE READY. SO SHOULD TAKE EVERYTHING, ALL BUSINESS TOGETHER. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. WILLIAMS. JUDGE DEPUTY. SURE. JUDGE MIGHT SHARE A CHILI COOKOFF. AND I HAVE ONE HARD AND FAST RULE. I DON'T CARE HOW NEW THE PORCELAIN IS. I'M NOT EATING CHILI SERVED OUT OF PORTION. NOT HAPPEN. THERE'S ONE EVERY CHILDREN TOOK OFF, BUT I, I WOULD SAY THERE WAS SOME INTERESTING INTEREST. INTERESTING INTEREST. OKAY. NEXT, WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER PR AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN COMPTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND KINGSBOROUGH HEARTLAND MUD TO FURNISH LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES. SHERIFF, UH, I THINK Y'ALL AWARE OF THIS IS, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, SORRY, KIM. OKAY. SENIOR. I'M A SENIOR MOMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. SENIOR, UH, UH, HAVE BEEN, BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH THEM ON THIS. AND, UH, SO I, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO TODAY IS JUST TO, UH, APPROVE US DOING THIS AND AUTHORIZE THE JUDGE AND I TO SIGN IT. UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR A, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE FURNISHING 42 HOURS PATROL A WEEK PER YEAR, ALL YEAR LONG. AND IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A RATE OF, THEY'RE GONNA PAY US ABOUT 500 A MONTH AND SOME, SOME CHANGE. UH, THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT PREPARED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE NAME OF THAT, LEGALLY CHANGING THE NAME. AND SO WE WANT IT ON THE, THE DOCUMENT WHEN WE SIGN IT. AND, UH, SO WE CAN JUST GET IT APPROVED AND, UH, GET APPROVED THE JUDGE AND NOT SIGN IT WHEN IT'S COMMISSION MAYOR TO MAKE THAT MOTION. UM, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, I MAKE A COMMENT IF I COULD. I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF WORKING WITH US AND, AND DOING THIS. AND, AND THIS IS, I, THIS IS GONNA BE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, MUD FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS. I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE THE BEGINNING OF A NEW, NEW GENERATION OF THOSE TYPE OF DISTRICTS BECAUSE NOW THEY ARE COMING TO THE TABLE WITH US AND THEY'RE NEGOTIATING FOR THEIR OWN POLICE PROTECTION, YOU KNOW, UH, CONTRACTING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY'RE PROVIDING THE ONLY PERSONNEL, BUT CARS. UM, AND THEY'RE REAL GOOD ABOUT PROVIDING SCHOOL SITES AND PARKS AND BUILDINGS FOR FIRE STATIONS AND, AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS BESIDES THIS. BUT, UM, SHERIFF AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, AND THESE CARS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS ONE WILL HAVE A MAGNETIC SIGN ON IT THAT DESIGNATES THAT, THAT'S PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION. AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A, THAT, THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A GOOD ADVERTISEMENT FOR ALL OF US. THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WILL KNOW THAT, THAT THAT POLICEMAN'S THERE BECAUSE THAT SUBDIVISION PAID FOR IT, OR THAT DEPUTY IS THERE BECAUSE THE SUBDIVISION PAID PAYMENT. I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT'S IN THE LONG RUN, THAT'S GONNA HELP US TREMENDOUSLY. AND WE'VE PRICED OUT, WE WENT THROUGH AND PRICED OUT EVERYTHING WITH THE COST OF DEPUTY. SO IT'S IT'S HUNDRED PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT. SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE PRORATED OVER THREE YEARS, ONE YEAR CARD PRORATED FOR THREE YEARS. UH, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A 10%, UH, CONTINGENCY IN THERE ON TOP OF THAT. SO I, I THINK AS FAR AS FINANCIALLY, IT'S A GOOD DEAL OF THE COUNTY. OKAY. IS, IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARE. NEXT I DISCUSS CONSIDERING TO OPE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COMBINE IN COUNTY FOR ANIMAL CONTROL ENFORCEMENT. [00:35:01] MR. JESSE RAMEY. HELLO, MAYOR. HI. I CALLED YOUR OFFICE THE OTHER DAY, BUT I GOTTA TALK WITH YOUR SECRETARY. GOT SOMETHING DONE THEN, DIDN'T YOU? , THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS, HE'S CALLED OUT JESSE RAMSEY, AND I AM THE PRESENT MAYOR OF THE CITY OF COMBINE. AND, UH, I WAS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THIS DEAL CAME UP, DOWN SCURRY, BUT I WAS GLAD THAT I HAD ALREADY CALLED AND ASKED, UH, WE'D LIKE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ENTERING INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY OR ANIMAL CONTROL. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THIS SERVICE FOR CITIES. WE THOUGHT WHEN IT WAS FIRST, UH, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT YOUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, HE WAS FOR THE COUNTY, BUT WE FOUND OUT LATER THAT THE CITIES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AFTER YOU AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL. I GOT A CALL FROM THE MAYOR OF SCURRY AND HE WANTS A SIMILAR, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF WRITING IT UP, BUT I'D LIKE TO, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A COUPLE MEETINGS WITH THE SHERIFF TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S GONNA BE A COST. WELL, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE SHERIFF AND I NEED TO DISCUSS. I'VE ALREADY GOT, I'VE GOT ABOUT HALF WRITTEN MATTER OF FACT. UM, AND IT'LL BE UP TO THE SHERIFF TO BRING IT TO THE COURT AND THEN WE'LL DO IT. BUT YES, I'M, I'M WORKING ON THAT AND, UH, I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU TONIGHT IF I NEED. OKAY, THAT'LL BE GREAT. AND WE CAN PICK UP THE OTHER INTER LOCAL MAYOR . OKAY. I'LL BE, I'LL BE THERE TONIGHT. OKAY. I HAD SPOKEN WITH, UH, MR. COCHRANE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HE TOLD ME THE PROCESS WAS TO COME THROUGH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO TODAY. SO IF YOU'LL, UH, I'LL WORK ON IT, BUT THAT POSSIBILITY IS THERE. WELL, IT'S UP OUT THOSE OFFICERS ARE UNDER THE SHERIFF, SO THE SHERIFF WOULD HAVE TO AGREE. WE WORK GOOD. OH, RIGHT. WELL, HE LIVES PRETTY CLOSE DOWN THERE, SO, UH, MAYBE HE'LL SMILE. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL SEND YOU, THEN TONIGHT I'LL GET WITH THE SHERIFF. OKAY, THANKS. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. JUDGE THERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP BECAUSE THERE ARE HALF A DOZEN CITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT PROVIDE THEIR OWN ANIMAL CONTROL. AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE START AND, AND WE, WE JUST NOW GOT IN THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUSINESS OURSELVES. I MEAN, WE ONLY HAVE TWO DEPUTIES THAT ARE COVERING THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT STOPS AND WHERE IT STARTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR CITIES WE, OR IN THEIR AGREEMENTS WITH AND IF YOU KNOW, AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE CITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE IT OWN CONTROL. BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THAT. WELL, I THINK IF IT, UH, IF IT'S ON A COST BASIS, THEN THE CITIES CAN MAKE THE DECISION IF THEY WANT TO AND IT CAN ONLY BE ON A COST BASIS. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHY WOULD CAROL ALIFORNIA CARE IF THEY GOT THEIR OWN, WHY THEY WIN WIN ONE WITH US? LONG AS YEAH, LONG AS THEY DON'T CARE. IT'S OKAY. I MEAN THAT, IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. IT IS LIKE THE MUD, THE MUD WILLING TO PAY FOR THE SHERIFF PROTECTION. AND I THINK THE LITTLE CITY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGE. WE'LL WORK IT OUT. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. OH, THIS JUST DEALS WITH THE CITY COMBINE. YES. AND SO YOU'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I I'LL MAKE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND ON HIS MOTION? SECOND WHAT, WHAT ARE WE MAKING A MOTION DO? JUST TO AUTHORIZE HIM TO ENTER TO THE LOCAL AGREEMENT. THE CITY OF COME DON'T WORK OUT THE DETAILS WITH THE SHERIFF. THE CITY OF, YEAH, I JUST NEED TO GET THE COST FROM THE SHERIFF. THAT'S WHY I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE COST, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU DO IT ON PER A CALL BASIS OR, OR A FLAT FEE PER MONTH? UH, IT DEPENDS. AND IF THE CITY OF PHONY WANTS TO COME IN AND PAY US, WE CAN HIRE MORE PEOPLE. WELL, I THINK IT'S WHERE COMMISSIONER LEONARD'S GOING. THAT'S, YOU KNOW. WELL, NO, WHAT I'M GOING IS WE ARE ASKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING TO APPROVE SOMETHING AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COST IS GONNA BE. AND, UH, WE'RE JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST SAYING WE, WE'LL, WE'LL SAY IT'S OKAY ON THE FRONT END AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. WELL, THE SHERIFF DOESN'T, SHERIFF HAS A VERY GOOD HANDLE ON THE COST OF DEPUTIES. IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT PROPOSAL THAT HE MADE FOR THE MUD, $8,500 A MONTH, I BELIEVE WAS THE NUMBER. YEAH. I THINK HE HAS A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON THE COST [00:40:01] ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SIDE. ARMS AND UNIFORMS, UH, AND GAS AND OIL AND CARS TRAINING. IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY, UH, PRETTY THOROUGH DESCRIPTION. UH, GOT THE COPY, IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. AND THERE'S NOTHING SAID WE CAN'T DO IT ON A PER CALL BASIS. UH, THAT MIGHT BE A ADMINISTRATIVE NIGHTMARE. TOO MUCH RECORDS. YEAH, I THINK THE SHERIFF WOULD PROBABLY HIT ME IF I SAID THAT, BUT, UH, THERE IS SOME WAY WE COULD WORK IT OUT FLAT FEE AND LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO CURRIER OVER THE WEEK LAST WEEK. OKAY. BUT, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND MY, YOU KNOW, MY PROBLEM IS THE, THE COST HAS TO BE HIGH ENOUGH WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PAYING IN, IN CITIES AND PAYING FOR THEIR OWN ANIMAL PATROL ARE THROUGH COUNTY TAXES. SUBSIDIZING, UH, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CITIES THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN SECURITY'S GONNA PAY FOR IT. COMBINE'S GONNA PAY FOR IT. OKAY. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL? OKAY. ANY INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH A STREETS, ROADS, POLICE, WHATEVER, IT'S GOTTA BE FAR VALUE. THAT'S THE LAW. AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT. THE CITY OF COMBINE IS, IS THIS BIG, YOU KNOW, NEY IS THIS BIG. IT'S SURELY GONNA BE A DIFFERENT VALUE. OKAY? THE MUD IS THIS BIG. OKAY, WELL LET'S CARRY IT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHERE THOSE ANIMALS GO TO. THAT'S A, THAT'S NOT AN INFINITE CAPACITY. THAT THERE'S A POINT WHERE THE PEOPLE WE CONTRACT WITH TO TAKE THOSE ANIMALS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY TO TAKE 'EM TO, WE CONTRACT TO TAKE THOSE, THOSE ANIMALS TO, TO ANOTHER FACILITY. NOW, IF THE CITY'S WILLING TO PAY THEIR SHARE OF WHAT WE PAY, THEN, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S ONE ISSUE. BUT THE OTHER ISSUE IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT FACILITY FILLS UP AND THEN WE ARE FORCED TO GO BUILD A ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY WHERE WE MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET BY A COUPLE MORE YEARS IF WE DIDN'T BRING THESE SMALLER CITIES INTO THE MIX. BUT NOW THAT WE ARE, IT MAY ACCELERATE THE, THE, THE NECESSITY OF BUILDING AN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS GONNA COST. UH, THE COST ISN'T GONNA BE COMPARABLE TO BUILDING A JAIL. IT'S GONNA BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE ONCE THE COUNTY HAS TO GET INTO THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUSINESS FULL FLEDGED WHERE WE HAVE OUR OWN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY. AND THAT'S JUST, I MEAN, THE COST IS ONE THING. CAPACITY AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO TAKE 'EM IS ANOTHER ISSUE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS AND, UH, AND I'M, I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT. COME TO, COME TO US WITH COSTS AND, AND HOW ALL THOSE, THOSE DETAILS ARE GONNA BE WORKED OUT. AND, AND LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT I CAN'T APPROVE IT ON THE FRONT END, NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST. THAT'S WHAT THIS MOTION WAS. I WILL GET WITH THE SHERIFF AND DISCUSS IT. WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO TODAY? WELL, I DON'T MIND TALKING TO THE SHERIFF, TALKING TO THE CITIES AND WORKING OUT A COST, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PROVE IT ON THE FRONT END. I WANT TO COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE COSTS AND IS THAT A COST THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH? AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE THE CAPACITY. THESE, THIS IS HOW MANY ADDITIONAL ANIMALS EACH AMENITY WE ADD IS GOING TO ADD OUR CAPACITY. WHERE YOU, WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO KEEP ANIMALS. THE MOTION ACTUALLY SAYS TO ENTER INTO THE LOCAL AGREEMENT. ARE YOU SAYING THAT, THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE GIVE JIM AND THE SHERIFF A LITTLE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS AND THEN BRING IT BACK? YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. AND I'M SAYING THAT THE LAW SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, IT'S GOTTA BE FOR COST. AND IF WE SIGN A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF COMBINE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES, IT'S GOT TO BE FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S GONNA COST THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. OTHERWISE THE CONTRACT DOESN'T GET SIGNED. WELL, LEMME INTERJECT. WHAT, WHAT I WOULD ALWAYS DO ON DISCIPLINARY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT I WOULD BRING THAT CONTRACT TO YOU TO APPROVE WHAT I DON'T THINK, TO ME, WOULD NOT APPROVE IT. A LIKE TO APPROVE THE PROCESS OF GOING INTO THE AGREEMENT. BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT IN A A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM. I, WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT. YOU COULDN'T APPROVE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE. WELL, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY. I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZING IS TO GO AHEAD AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST WORK OUT THE DETAILS AS LONG AS IT COMES BACK TO COMMISSION. I'M SURE THAT, OKAY, THIS IS, TO ME IS A PRELIMINARY WHERE YOU'RE AUTHORIZING, UH, COMMISSIONER AND MYSELF AND COMBINE TO [00:45:01] ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT. BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO APPROVE AGREEMENT. THAT'S FINE WITH ME. YEAH. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ROB, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AS AS LONG AS IT'S COMING BACK TO US FOR FINAL APPROVAL, I VOTE YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT AND THEN WE JUST MOVE ON? NO, I, I'LL VOTE FORWARD AS LONG AS IT'S COMING TO US FOR FINAL APPROVAL. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, HAVE A DISCUSSION. CONSIDER AN OPTION FOR A $15,000 RENDERING UNDER PBS AND J CONTRACT ON THE PROPOSED IN PORCH BUILDING. JUDGE, THAT'S THAT SITUATION WITH, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECT. UH, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS IN THEIR OVERALL COST TO US, BUT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THAT WILL HELP US A BUNCH WHEN WE START TO HELP US A LOT WHEN WE START, UH, PUSHING THIS, UH, ELECTION A LITTLE BIT. THAT, UH, PEOPLE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. UH, WE ASKED THEM TO BRING IT, FOR US TO BRING IT BEFORE THE COURT BECAUSE THAT'S AN EXTRA EXPENSE THAT WE HADN'T COUNTED ON. SO WHAT I'M ASKING, I GUESS IS, IS IS IT WORTH $15,000 TO GET THIS RENDER? SURE. IS, UM, SAME SUBJECT, A LITTLE DIFFERENT CHAPTER. WHERE ARE WE AT? I HAVE SUBMITTED MY COMMITTEE MEETING TO PS AND J. HAVE Y'ALL? NO, I I'VE SUBMITTED MINE AND I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE SUBMITTED. THEY SAID THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED YET, SO THEY MAY BE WAITING. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THAT. I, I JUST, NOTHING IS HAPPENING. IT NONE OF MY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED YET. AND, AND, AND I'LL BE PERFECTLY FRANK, I I'VE GOTTEN EMAILS FROM CHUCK CROSSLAND SAYING, WHAT DO YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? AND I'VE TOLD CHUCK, WE HAVE AN OWNER REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING FOR US. TALK TO THE OWNER REPRESENTATIVE AND HAVE HIM COORDINATE. THAT'S HIS JOB. EXACTLY. AND, AND IT IS NOT HAPPENING. AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE HOLD UP IS WE HAVE HIRED A OWNER REPRESENTATIVE AND THEY'RE NOT DOING MUCH REPRESENTING. AND, UM, UH, AND, AND, AND THE LAST EMAIL I SENT TO CHUCK SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU NEED TO BE COORDINATING AND HAVE PBS AND JAY CONTACTING US AND KEEP THIS BALL ROLLING. AND I IMMEDIATELY GOT AN EMAIL FROM PBS AND J. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED. BUT WHAT THIS IS, IS I THINK WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS. EITHER, EITHER A MODEL, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS, UH, OR, UH, OR A COMPUTERIZED RENDERING OR BOTH. BUT THE COMPUTERIZED RENDERING WOULD LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, FLY YOU THROUGH THE HALLWAYS OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, SHOW YOU WHAT EACH OF THE ROOMS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, AND SHOW YOU WHAT THE OUTSIDE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. AND OF THE TWO, I'D RATHER HAVE THE COMPUTERIZED RENDERING. IF, UH, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW THE PUBLIC. I I DON'T THINK THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING MEANS ANYTHING TO ANYBODY. IS THAT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT FOR THE 15,000? YES. UH, CAN WE STOP, GO IN THERE. OKAY. HOW ABOUT, UM, WE'LL BE OUTTA HERE BY 11. YES, YOU HAVE TO. AND THEN HE BROUGHT, HE BROUGHT TWO, THREE. [00:50:45] IF THEY CAN ONLY ADDRESS IT, I MAKE A MOTION WITH MEETING. SECOND. MOTION BEEN MADE AND SECOND IS PAID THE BILLS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. I MOTION ADJOURN. MOTION BEEN MADE TO ADJOURN. SECOND, UH, BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VALOR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES AJOUR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.