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IT'S RECORDING, BUT IT'S, YEAH, BUT IT'S GONNA GO OFF IN A FEW MINUTES.
IT'S GONNA SAY AUTO POWER OFF FLASH.
BUT IT'LL STAY ON FOR A FEW MINUTES SINCE IT SAYS AUTO POWER OFF.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY.
AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU HAVE PLANS FOR ALL OF US.
AND FATHER, WE'RE GRATEFUL TO BE PART OF YOUR PLAN.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE GIFT OF SELF-GOVERNMENT.
FATHER, PLEASE HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY AND FOLLOW IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR WILL.
YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOWMAN.
MOTION CARRIES FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING.
UH, HIS EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT CHUCK'S NOT HERE YET.
UH, HE, I USUALLY TELL HIM AND TRY TO GET HERE AROUND 10.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
UH, THAT'S TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AN ORDER BY THE COMMISSIONER OF COURT OF
WE HAVE, UH, WITH US TODAY, MR. TO HOLLAND FROM THE AFF HEATH POLL AND KARUN LAW FIRM.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, GEORGE WILFORD WITH US FROM FIRST SOUTHWEST.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT Y'ALL HAVE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, I'LL ALSO HAVE SCOTT HUT HERE, TPS AND JAY.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE GROUP RIGHT THERE THAT WE NEED TO, TO PURSUE THIS MATTER.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN NAMES OF COMMITTEE, UH, TO CHUCK CROSMAN.
AND, UH, SO THE NEXT THING TO DO IS, UH, TO CALL THE BOND ELECTION.
I GUESS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, UH, UH, PERMANENT AMOUNT AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED SCOTT TO BE HERE IN CASE.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 22 MILLION.
I THINK AROUND 21 5 OR 22 WILL BE A NICKEL ON THE TAX BILL.
Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, JUDGE, PERSONALLY I THINK WE'D BE SAFE WITH 20, YOU KNOW, A FIGURE OF 21 5.
UH, WE WERE HOPING IT WOULD BE LESS, BUT IT IS DOWN FROM 35 MILLION.
UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, GONE A TILT WALL ON THE TWO STORY AND WE HAVE GOTTEN THE PRICE DOWN AND I MAKE THAT MOTION.
NO, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK WHEN YOU DO RI THINK
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WHEN YOU DO RF QS THAT ARE RFPS THAT UH, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SEE THE NUMBER, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY GOT STATED.YOU MAKE IT 22, THAT'S GONNA OKAY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, GUYS, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING UP.
UH, AND I KNOW, UH, YOU SENT THE PACKET WITH THE ORDER IN THERE AND UH, IT'S OVER TO THE OFFICE.
DO YOU NEED THAT BEFORE YOU GO BACK? RIGHT.
I'M GONNA BE AROUND, UH, WAITING FOR CHUCK.
BUT WE'LL GET THAT, WE'LL, UH, COORDINATE WITH, UH, MR. MURPHY AND BE READY FOR YOUR ELECTION.
WELL, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK IN A FEW MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL SIGN EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SIGNED.
JUST DOES THAT RENDERING BUSINESS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS? IS THAT A SEPARATE THING? THAT'S A SEPARATE THING.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WA NS FOR A SMART START LEARNING CENTER IN ON 2004.
UH, KENNETH, YOU REQUESTED THAT TO BE ON THE AGENDA? YES.
UH, THESE PEOPLE, UH, SOMEHOW EVERYTHING GOT FIXED UP BETWEEN THE TAX OFFICE AND THE DISTRICTS AND THEY WENT BACK AND FORTH.
AND SO THE CITY OF CHARLES SAID THAT THEY WOULD RESCIND THEIR TAXES, SO WOULD THE SCHOOL AND OTHER INDUSTRIES IF WE WOULD, IF WE WOULD BE HERE.
AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS THE ONLY THING PRIOR TO DO WAS CENTER WELL TAXES.
AND I THAT MOTION, OKAY, THAT'S JUST A PENALTY.
THAT'S NOT TAXES PENALTY, I'M SORRY, BUT IT WAS BY AND YOU, BUT THE SCHOOLS HAVE, UH, AGREED TO, TO SEND THEIRS AND SO IS THE CITY.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK GET A SECOND.
GOTTA GET A SECOND BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SECOND AT THAT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SEGMENT BY COMMISSIONER DEN.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS LETTER.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TAX CERTIFICATE.
THE LAWYER AND THE TITLE COMPANY SHOULD HAVE GOT A TAX CERTIFICATE.
THE TITLE, THE TAXES GO WITH THE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION.
THEY DON'T GO WITH THE ADDRESS.
UH, THIS IS THE SECOND ONE I'VE SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND I THINK THE TITLE COMPANY AND THE LAWYER, WHOEVER DID THIS WORKUP SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TITLE POLICY, THEY DON'T MENTION THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK IT SAYS HERE, LAWYERS AND US AS OWNERS MISSED THAT THE TAX STATEMENT HAS NOT BEEN RECEIVED.
BUT THAT'S THE JOB OF THE TITLE COMPANY TO GET A TAX CERTIFICATE WHEN THEY DO CLOSING.
NOW, IF THEY FAIL TO DO THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE UP FOR AN ERROR FROM A TITLE COMPANY OR THE LAWYER.
COMMISSIONER SHANE, DO YOU KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES, HOW THIS CAME ABOUT? I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE PROPERTY? THEY PURCHASED THIS AND SOMEHOW THE PERSON, THEY DIDN'T GET THE TAX INFORMATION TO THESE PEOPLE AND THAT'S HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THIS.
UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING? BUT HE SAID HE MAY HAVE TO GO TO WORK.
HE GONNA BE HERE TO EXPLAIN THIS, BUT I THINK KNOW A BUNCH ABOUT IT.
WE'VE BEEN OVER HERE AND DISCUSSED THIS WITH DICK.
DID DID FOLKS GO THROUGH A TILE COMPANY OR DID THE PEOPLE BUY IT ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A TITLE? I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
I BELIEVE THIS IS ON THE FURNITURE EQUIPMENT AND THE BE PROPERTY.
I REALLY DUNNO THAT AS I RECALL THIS WAS ON THE FURNITURE, EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER IT WAS.
THEIR LETTER SAID THAT IT WAS NEVER CAUGHT AT THE TIME OF CLOSING IN SEPTEMBER.
THAT'S THE TITLE COMPANY AND THE LAWYER'S LIABILITY, THEY PROBABLY NEED TO GO BACK TO THE TITLE COMPANY.
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'CAUSE THAT'S ROUTINELY A TAX CERTIFICATE IS ACQUIRED BEFORE CLOSING.IS IT ON CONTENT? PARDON? IS IT ON CONTENT? I MEAN, TIME COMPANY.
THE DEAL WITH THE CONTENTS OF THE BILL, THEY ONLY DEAL WITH THE, THE REAL ESTATE.
THERE'S A TAX LIEN ON THE SECOND, THIRD BASIS.
WELL, THE FACT THAT THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T CATCH IT IN CLOSING IS NOT THE COUNTY'S FAULT.
IT'S THE CLOSING, IT'S THE TITLE COMPANY'S FAULT.
BUT, BUT DICK, YOUR YOU'RE, UH, ADVICE IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND WAIVE THIS PENALTY.
WELL, I'VE NOT SEEN THE LETTER STORY HERE, BUT AT THE TIME I WROTE, WROTE THE LETTER, IT WAS MY THOUGHTS THAT SHOULD BE WA AND I.
THEY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN, UM, THE PENALTIES, PENALTIES INTEREST.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE LETTER THAT COMMISSIONER ER'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE LETTER THAT I WROTE WAS ADVISED TO THE, UH, TAXPAYER TO SUBMIT MY LETTER PLUS HIS RENDITION OF THE FACTS TO YOU GUYS AND TO CITY AND TO THE, UH, IN YOUR LETTER YOU SAID, ALTHOUGH OUR RECORD, OUR RECORDS INDICATE THAT WE HAVE AN INCORRECT MAILING ADDRESS AND THEREFORE FAILED TO PROVIDE A TAX STATEMENT.
AND THEN YOU WENT ON TO EXPLAIN TO 'EM ABOUT THE LAW.
SO IF WE HAD AN INCORRECT MAILING ADDRESS AND, AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE STATEMENT.
BUT I THINK THE LAW IS IT'S THE TAXPAYER'S RESPONSIBILITY ABSOLUTELY.
TO, IF THEY DON'T GET A TAX STATEMENT, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GO THROUGH THE TAX OFFICE AND FIND OUT WHY.
BECAUSE EVERY PROPERTY OWNER KNOWS THAT THEY OWE TAXES.
WELL, THE, THE SCHOOLS ARE FORGIVE THEIRS AND THE CITY FORGIVE THEIRS.
AND I REALIZE THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT WE FORGIVE THEIRS.
BUT, UH, WELL, MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SAY AYE.
SINCE THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY ARE BOTH GIVENS, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD.
I MEAN NOT, I THINK COMMISSIONER DELL BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE INFORMATION, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA BE ABOVE, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, OKAY, I GOT TWO YESES AND ONE, NO, NO, NO, NOTHING.
OKAY, WE GOT THE TIE FOLKS IN.
I'LL HAVE TO VOTE NO TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE LAW.
NOT THAT I DON'T WANT GIVE THESE PAPERS SOME RELIEF, BUT, BUT I THINK THE LAW WAS NOT FOLLOWED HERE.
SO BACK TO HIS, UH, HE NEEDS TO GO CHECK WITH THE TITLE COMPANY AND, UH, THE LAWYER CLOSED IT.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT A TITLE POLICY.
AND THE TITLE COMPANY WAS SAY, OH, WE, WE MADE A SLIGHT MISTAKE.
IT'S COMMON PRACTICE THAT YOU GET A TAX CERTIFICATE AT CLOSING.
CONSIDERED ACCEPTING A PAYMENT OF 3981 CENTS FOR REPAIR WORK PAID ON COUNTY BILL 13 FROM THE OF, FOR COUNTY PRECINCT.
JUDGE, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU VOTED, IT WOULD'VE DIED.
SO I GUESS YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT THAT'S THE WORK FOR UH, YES.
AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A HOLE THAT WAS IN THE CITY OF C, EVEN THOUGH IT SHOWED THE NEWSPAPER AND APPEARED TO BE A COUNTY ROAD, IT'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD, BUT WE DID THE WORK.
AND THIS IS JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE, UH, JUST ACCEPT PAYMENT FOR, FOR THE WORK WE DID ON TWO 13 IN CITY OF THOUSAND.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
NEXT I DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING A GIFT OF THE USED EXECUTIVE DISC IN CREDENZA
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FROM GUARANTEE INSURANCE SERVICES FOR CUL COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.NEXT I DISCUSSED, CONSIDER ACCEPTING A GIFT OF USED ROSE HOWARD BROOM FROM THE CITY OF TAR FOR PRECINCT THREE.
SO THE COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER, DOLLAR SECONDS, THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I MAY NOT GETTING ALL PRETTY GOOD AS I CAN DO.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PAYING OUR ANNUAL VIEWS, UH, WITH TEXAS COUNTY JUDGE COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS.
I MOVE THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER D.
NEXT WE DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVING PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING WEEK OF MARCH 19TH THROUGH THE 25TH AS POISON PREVENTION WEEK IN
ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN WHO'S, UH, WHO'S HEAD OF THIS PROGRAM IN THE DALLAS AREA, A GRADUATED FROM KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL, MIKE
SOME OF Y'ALL MAY KNOW MIKE, SOME OF THESE KIN FOLKS.
UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LETTER.
Y'ALL MAY NOT KNOW, BUT MIKE DYKEY IS BUTCH MUSE'S BROTHER'S BROTHER-IN-LAW.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSING, CONSIDER ACKNOWLEDGING THE FILING OF DALLAS CROWN SLAUGHTER REPORT FOR THE WEEK ENDING 2 24 0 6.
MR. BROWN, THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS REPORT FILED BY DALLAS CROWN.
OKAY, I SECOND THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
THIS IS GONNA BE THE LAST ONE.
SO WHEN'S THE PARTY? ARE THEY GONNA SERVE HORSE? YEAH, THEY GONNA THROW A BARBECUE.
SEE THE JUDGE BRING HIS HORSE TO WORK WITH.
SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THE COURT HAS BEEN FILED, ANOTHER ONE.
CAN YOU MAKE THAT MOTION AS WELL AS WELL? AND WE SECOND THAT ONE.
DO WE HAVE ANY JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT THREE WITH PROPOSAL LINE ITEM TRANSFER TO MISCELLANEOUS $400 FROM MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING JAIL FUND, INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLIES, 2000 REDUCTION IN, UH, PHONE AND
DA ASSET FORFEITURE FUND INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 5,000 PRODUCTION OF OFFICE FURNITURE AND NEW EQUIPMENT.
THE CHILD SHELTER INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLIES 2000 IN DUCTION OF ROAD PRECINCT.
TWO, INCREASED ROAD MATERIALS, 80,000 DUCTION OF TOOLS AND NEW EQUIPMENT.
AND THE, THE, UH, TLO TRAINING FUND HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES FROM THE STATE.
UM, AND WE PROPOSED INCREASING TRAINING COSTS FOR THAT AMOUNT.
Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST? WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
ROUND SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER.
DO WE HAVE ANY BILLS? YES SIR.
AS A MATTER, PAY OUR BILLS AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR
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A FEW MONTHS AGO.COMES IN FAR, WELL WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT A SEPARATE HAULING CONTRACT RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT DELIVER.
THEY'RE, THAT MAY NOT BE A BAD IDEA, BUT IF USE THOSE BOYS.
BUT THAT BETWEEN 26 OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
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NEXT ITEM I COFFEE MATERIAL.AND 9 87 I GOT 1, 2, 3 FROM 20 TO C3 30.
7 35 BY THE TIME SATURDAY I, SO
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THE, UH, THE DIGITAL OVER IN SIX INCH RESOLUTION ONE INCH.I DO REMEMBER ONE IS FOUR TIMES.
RE I DO KNOW THAT ONE IS FOUR TIMES.
THEY DO THE OVERLY EVERY TWO YEARS.
THAT'S WHY I WAS WILLING TO GIVE IT TO US FOR NOT, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT I'M, LOOKS LIKE I'VE MIS SPOKEN BECAUSE UH, I DIDN'T TRY TO UNTIL LAST NIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT? EVERYTHING GONE.
MY BROTHER USUALLY GOT IS THAT DIDN'T LAST.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ALL THAT MOTION, WE'LL PAY THE BILLS.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE WILL GO BACK TO OUR ITEM EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 5 51 0.0711 B, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING CAUSE NUMBER 6 5 1 3 DASH 4 2 2 WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER.
SO WE'LL EXIT THE PUBLIC, THE OPEN MEETING AND GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO
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SPEAK TO US TODAY.REFERENCE CAUSE NUMBER 6 5 1 2 3 DASH FOUR TWO.
MR. MCCLURE WILL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES.
UH, COULD I DELAY THAT LACK DISCUSSION IF YOU'RE GOING HOUSE DISCUSSION, WOULD THAT BE ALRIGHT? UH, YOU EITHER SPEAK NOW OR WHEREVER HOLD YOU PEACE
WELL, I'M NOT TOO
UH, THAT YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.
THEY MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THEY KNOW THE RESULTS.
AND YOU CAN'T BE OUS WITH TAXPAYER'S MONEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A WAY OF NOT FORGETTING.
ALSO, IF, IF YOUR FOOT LOOSE AND FANCY FREE AN EASY ON YOUR MONEY, I DON'T THINK THE TAXPAYER IS GOING TO REWARD YOU ABOUT ALLOWING YOU A COURT BILL.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT YOU DO HERE COULD HAVE REPERCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE.
SO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY BECAUSE, UH, PEOPLE WILL LEARN ABOUT IT AND, UH, THE PEOPLE WILL BE INFORMED, UH, ESPECIALLY PRIOR PROBABLY TO THE BOND ELECTION.
SO YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE YOURSELF INTELLIGENT.
YOU'RE ALL IN EVERY ONE OF YOU, SMART, INTELLIGENT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE PRUDENT WITH THE MONEY, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN ADVANCE THE COUNTY IN THE FACT THAT YOU GET, WE NEED ANOTHER COURT BUILDING.
BUT PRIOR TO WHAT WE DID TO GET BEFORE TO GET A, A CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT, UH, THERE WASN'T NO MUCH SAID ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'D BE A LOT SAID ABOUT THIS BOND COMING UP.
AND WHAT YOU DO HERE TODAY IS GOING TO HAVE EFFECT ON IT.
SO I CAUTION YOU TO BE CAREFUL AND WORK INTELLIGENT AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT YOU, YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE, THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW AND YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL AS WHAT IS CONVENIENT POLITICALLY.
YOU CAN'T USE THIS FOR POLITICAL GAIN.
IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN, IN A COUNTY, IN A COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I MEAN, THE COMMISSIONER, UH, HAD DONE SUPER JOB FOR A BANKER AS FAR AS THE ROAD'S CONCERNED, AND ANOTHER BASIC PLACE PERSON IN THAT SAME PRECINCT.
HE HADN'T HAD A GRADER ON THIS ROAD IN A YEAR.
NOW TO ME, THAT'S PLAYING POLITICS.
SO I HOPE YOU DON'T PLAY POLITICS WITH THIS.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK WE NEED A COURT BUILDING.
AND IF, AND IF YOU MAKE THE WRONG DECISION HERE TODAY, IT COULD JEOPARDIZE THIS.
UH, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE BILLS.
MOTION TO ADJOURN ME BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.