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NOW WE'LL COME TO HER AND I'D ASK COMMISSIONER LEONARD TO OPEN THIS UP TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GRACE FOR US.
BRING US WISDOM AS WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JOHN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING IS TO CANVAS THE VOTES OF THE BOND ELECTION.
DICK, YOU SAID YOU HAD, UH, THE REPORT FOR US.
HUH? WHERE'D YOU TURN IT IN? DICK? I KNOW, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK YOU SAID YOU HAD IT AND I SAID, WELL, WE NEED IT TODAY.
I, I LEFT IT TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO EACH ENTITY AND I ASSUME WE DISTRIBUTED IT TO YOU OUTSIDE OF TOWN, BUT I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM THEN, AND, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER INCREASING THE HOURLY RATE OF VOTING PERSONNEL PICKS ON THAT ONE TOO.
UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AVOIDING RFP 10 0 6 FOR AUTOMATED TAX COLLECTION SOFTWARE.
ANTHONY GENTLEMEN, UH, WE HAD THREE MEMBERS ON A COMMITTEE ON THIS PROJECT.
GEORGE, GEORGE, DICK MURPHY, AND MYSELF.
UH, RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS, NARROWED DOWN TO THE TOP TWO AND RECEIVED BEST OF FINAL OFFER.
AND AFTER THAT WE MET WITH, UH, SEVERAL OF THE PERSONNEL IN THE TAX OFFICE.
AND THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE IS TO BUILD TRUE AUTOMATION IN THE AMOUNT OF 233,896.
THIS IS THE SAME VENDOR THAT THE PRESSURE IS THAT TO MAKE THOSE SO THAT THEY COMPATIBLE THEN IT, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, BENEFIT THERE IN THE CONVERSION.
UH, I KNOW GEORGE SPEAK FIRST OTHER TYPE OF QUESTIONS, BUT THERE'S A BIG BENEFIT BEING ON SAME, SAME VENDOR.
DOES HE HAVE THAT IN? I MEAN, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.
WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? DOES HE HAVE THAT IN HIS BUDGET? WE, WE'VE ARRANGED FINANCING THROUGH DIVERSIFIED LENDERS WHO HAD THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT WITH OUR TAX SOFTWARE.
UH, AND I, I REQUESTED TO THEM FOR A FIVE YEAR PAYOUT BEGINNING IN SOMETIME AFTER SEPTEMBER 30.
I THINK WHEN I WAS THINKING WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED WITH THE COURT, IT WASN'T GONNA COST ANY EXTRA MONEY.
I THINK AT THE TIME THERE WAS AN ESTIMATE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I BELIEVE.
WELL, JUDGE, I HATE TO BE A A, I HATE TO, UH, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN SPEND 200 THAT'S EVEN PAID OUT.
UH, I MEAN, IS THIS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BETTER? I'LL HAVE TO ALLOW GEORGE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE TEX ARE AS FAR AS COLLECTIONS.
WHEN THE APPRAISAL OFFICE, UH, LET'S JUST GO BACK TO WHEN, UH, WHEN DONNA BRAVE IS HERE.
THE REASON WE WENT TO SOFTWARE GROUP IS THE SISTER COMPANY, TYLER COMPANY AND APPRAISAL WAS THE SAME VENDOR THE FIRST YEAR WITH, WITH SOFTWARE GROUP.
WE HAD, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE MOST
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PIVOTAL THING THAT HAPPENS, THE KEY THING TO GETTING OUR TAX BILLS OUT ON TIME IS TAKING THE CERTIFIED LEVY AND APPRAISAL PRODUCE AND BRINGING IN TAX.THERE'S A CONVERSION PROCESS TO GO OVER ONE SOFTWARE VENDOR OR APPLICATION OR DATABASE TO THE OTHER.
THE YEAR WE WENT FROM GSA TO SOFTWARE GROUP, WE HAD A FLAWLESS, VERY QUICK, EASY CONVERSION FROM BRINGING A CERTIFIED LEVY INTO TAX.
SINCE THAT TIME APPRAISAL, UH, HIRED A NEW JACKIE RETIRED, THEY HIRED SOMEONE NEW BEFORE JACKIE LEFT, SHE WENT TO TREE AUTOMATION.
WHEN SHE AUTOMATION CAME ON BOARD BRINGING THE CERTIFIED LEVY FROM THE LEGACY TAX PRODUCT FROM APPRAISAL IN.
THE TAX WAS, AS YOU RECALL, QUITE DIFFICULT.
IN FACT, MANY HOURS ARE SPENT BY PJ AND BY, UM, LINDA WOODARD.
AND THE EXAMPLE OF LAST YEAR WOULD BE PUTTING IN ALL THE OVERAGE AND, UH, REMEMBER ALL THE OVERAGE AND, UH, DISABLED PERSONS HAD TO MANUALLY ENTER ALL THAT DATA BY 8,000 ENTITIES.
SO BOTTOM LINE IS THEY HAVE, THERE'S A VENDOR TRUE AUTOMATION THAT WAS ACTUALLY SPIN OFF OF SOFTWARE OR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.
IN FACT, I THINK WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THAT COMPANY WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT KEY THING OF BRINGING THE CERTIFIED LEVY INTO TAX.
SO OUR TAX GOES COME OUT ON TIME, GOES AWAY WHEN WE HAVE THE SAME VENDOR IN TAX AND APPRAISAL.
THAT'S THE BENEFIT THAT I SEE.
UH, WE MET WITH, UM, THE CHIEF APPRAISER LAST WEEK AND WHAT WE INTEND ON ALSO DOING IS BRIDGING THE NETWORKS TOGETHER.
SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO MICROSOFT SQL SERVER DATABASES AND COMMUNICATION.
SO THE PROBLEM OF FIELDS CHANGING AND PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS THE FINGER POINTING APPRAISAL WILL PRODUCE THEIR CERTIFIED LIVING AND THROW IT OUT THERE.
A TC OR TAX WILL BRING IT IN AND THEY DON'T, WE DON'T SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.
AND ONE VENDOR CAN ALWAYS POINT THE FINGER AT THE OTHER.
IF WE GO THROUGH AUTOMATION, WE'RE USING THE SAME VENDOR.
ANOTHER REASON WHY WE, WE HAVE TO, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A SHELL DATA THING IS APPRAISAL CHOSE THE WAY, CHOSE TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO SOME OF THEIR CODING.
THERE'S A GEO CODE, WHICH IS A 24 CHARACTER CODE THAT OUR LEGACY PRODUCT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE.
SO OUR CHOICES AT THIS POINT ARE TO USE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, MICROSOFT SQL SERVER PRODUCT, OR TO GO THROUGH AUTOMATION TO FACT THE TWO FINAL IN THIS PROCESS WERE USE, USE TIMELY TECHNOLOGIES AS NEW, UH, NEW PRODUCTS SIMILAR CALLED ORION.
IT'S SIMILAR TO THE ODYSSEYS PRODUCT WE'RE USING FOR COURSE OR TO TRUE AUTOMATION.
THE REASON DOES IT COST ABOUT THE SAME TRUE, UH, SOFTWARE GROUPS SHEET.
UH, THE CONCERN WITH THE FOLKS THAT WORK TAXES, YOU KNOW, THROUGH TAXES IS WE WILL BE STILL BACK TO THE FINGER POINTING AND BRING IN A CERTIFIED LEVY FROM APPRAISAL INTO TAX.
WHAT HAPPENS TO, WE JUST DON'T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, THEN WE HAVE A 24 CHARACTER GEO CODE THAT WILL NOT WORK IN OUR LEGACY PRODUCT THAT CHARTER MASON OR THAT THE APPRAISAL OFFICE HAVE GONE TO.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT APPRAISAL OFFICE JUST DID RECENTLY? THIS WAS AS OF THE LAST TAX SEASON.
THEY CHANGED THE WAY THEY WANT THINGS HANDLED.
DID HE, DID, DID ANYBODY FROM THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT CONTACT ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTY ABOUT I WOULD NEED TO DEFER TO TO DICK ON THAT PART OF IT, BUT THAT, THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, IF THAT GEO CODE, THAT 24 CHARACTER GEO CODE DID NOT COME UP, THEN WE CAN KEEP TO THE LEGACY PRODUCT.
DOES HE NOT HAVE THE MONEY IN HIS BUDGET FOR THIS? NO, SIR.
DOES HE HAVE THE MONEY IN THERE FOR THE, THE MONTHLY FIVE YEAR PAYOUT? IT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL PAYOUT.
IT WOULDN'T START UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET PERIOD.
SO YES AND NO
I'M THINKING HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD IT IN HIS BUDGET AND IT WAS ABOUT $120,000.
I WAS THINKING THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME.
BUT AGAIN, WE MAY HAVE NOT BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING EITHER.
MUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT TOO.
UM, GEORGE, CAN THIS BE DONE MANUALLY, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK OR CAN IT JUST NOT EVEN BE DONE? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE
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CONSIDERATIONS WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO GETTING TAX BILLS OUT ON TIME IS SO MISSION CRITICAL TOWN KEN COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITIES AND ENTITIES WE COLLECT FOR THAT, SHOULD THEY GO OUT LATE? YOU KNOW, WE GOT LITTLE, LITTLE CITIES AROUND THAT WE CAN'T MAKE PAYROLL IF WE DON'T HAVE MONEY AND WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BOTH NOW THEY JUST CHANGED NOT LONG AGO DID THEY NOT TRUE.THE APPRAISAL OFFICE WENT TO TRUE AUTOMATION THE YEAR THAT JACKIE LEFT.
THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD THE LEGACY AND NOW THEY'RE CHANGING AGAIN.
NO, THEY COULD, THEY CONTINUED WITH THE SAME VENDOR.
WELL WHEN WE HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WHEN DONNA WAS HERE, IT WASN'T THE REASON WE HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE SINGLE CREDIT DISTRICT CHANGE PEOPLE.
THEN THE, WELL, THE REASON WHY WE HAD TROUBLE WHEN DONNA WAS HERE AT THE TIME WE HAD GSA AS A VENDOR AND WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM BRINGING OUR CERTIFIED LEVY INTO THE TAX PRODUCT IN THE YEAR THAT WE WENT TO SOFTWARE GROUP.
THE APPRAISAL HAD A COMPANY WHO WAS, I BELIEVE A RS THE COMPANY WAS A SISTER COMPANY OF SOFTWARE GROUP.
SO THEY WORKED TOGETHER AND WE HAD NO ISSUES THE FIRST YEAR.
BUT, BUT THE REASON WE HAD THE PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH WAS BECAUSE THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT CHANGED COMPUTER COMPANIES.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? AM I WRONG? I'M TALKING ABOUT IN, IN ABOUT, UH, 2000.
YEAH, 99 OR 2000, SOMEWHERE ALONG IN THERE.
THERE WAS THAT ONE YEAR THEY WERE REAL LATE ABOUT.
THEY WAS, WE WERE SIX MONTHS, NOT SIX MONTHS, BUT UH, SIX WEEKS LATE GETTING THEM OUT OR SOMETHING.
I GUESS MY MY POINT OF MY POINT IS HOW OFTEN IS A SINGLE PAGE DISTRICT GOING TO CHANGE COMPUTER COMPANIES WHERE IT'S GOING REQUIRE THE COUNTIES, THE COUNTIES TO, TO CHANGE? THAT'S, THAT'S, AND DID HE EVER DISCUSS THIS WITH ANYBODY? DID ANYBODY REFER TO THE TAX DIRECTOR? DID YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER COME BACK
WELL, THIS WAS DONE BEFORE THE CURRENT APPRAISER, CHIEF APPRAISER AND I MEAN
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, JUST RUMOR THAT THEY JUST DID IT AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN OFFER OUR PROCESSOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT POINT IS, I HEARD OUR PROCESSOR DIDN'T HAVE A VERY GOOD SYSTEM FOR THE APPRAISAL SIDE BACK THEN.
SO I DUNNO THE FACT IT, IT WAS SOME TIME AGO THAT THAT WAS DONE.
BUT AT THIS POINT, AT ALL OF US QUOTE STAFF, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE WERE ON THE SAME SYSTEM, WE'D BE A LOT BETTER TO ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH HER.
AND WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT YOU BEING ON THE, I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS YOU TO BE ON THE SAME SYSTEM.
WELL, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.
THERE'S NO
OUR OUR SYSTEM IS VIRTUALLY FOUNDED BY THE BUSINESS.
UM, YOU'RE ON THE, YOU'RE ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YES.
UM, AT A FUTURE DATE, CAN WE DO, CAN WE INK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT THAT, THAT WE, THAT THEY WON'T CHANGE SYSTEMS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT MUTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
I'D LOVE TO TRY AND WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.
LIKE YOU CAN, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT THEY CAN'T JUST CHANGE UP.
WELL COST US THAT KIND OF MONEY.
UH, OKAY, JACK AND GEORGE AND DICK, THIS IS WHAT Y'ALL RECOMMEND AND THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVE US OUR TAX STATEMENTS OUT ON TIME AND WON'T BE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.
AND WE'RE STARTING THE BUDGET ABOUT 40,000 A YEAR IN THE HOME.
ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, OUR BIGGEST, THERE ARE TWO PROBLEMS. ONE AT THE TIME OF CONVERSION GOING FROM ONE SYSTEM TO ANOTHER AND THAT'S GONNA GIVE YOU PROBLEMS. THE OTHER IS JUST DAILY, THERE ARE CHANGES MADE BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT MANUALLY AND THEY SEND IT TO US AND WE DO IT MANUALLY.
IF WE'RE ON THE SAME SYSTEM, WE CAN DO ALL THAT ELECTRONICALLY AND ELIMINATE ALL THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ERROR.
WHAT DOES THIS COME OUT OF DICK'S BUDGET THEN NEXT YEAR? MM-HMM
YEAH, BUT YOU'LL SAVE SO MUCH PAYROLL WORK AND LABOR.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT WE, UH,
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WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WORKING OVERTIME AND UH, HOLY COW, IT'S, IT IS COSTING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
AND IF WE DON'T GET IT STREAMLINED WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, WE DON'T GET IT STREAMLINED.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIRE EMPLOYEES, DO THE DAY TO DAY STUFF.
AND WHEN I FIRST, SO CONVERSELY, IF WE DO THIS, WE CAN GET BY WITH LESS EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? WELL, AT LEAST WITHOUT ADDING EMPLOYEES.
I, I BELIEVE THAT WHEN I FIRST PRESENTED MY ARGUMENT, I PUT FORTH THE, THAT THIS WILL KEEP US FROM HIRING TWO OR THREE MORE PEOPLE AND I BELIEVE IT.
WELL, WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GOOD ARGUMENT THAT WE, AND IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF JERRY'S ROAD AND BRIDGE, SO THAT'S, IT'S COMING OUTTA GEORGIA.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH KEN, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SINGLE APPRAISAL DOESN'T JUST KEEP SUCKING INTO IT EVERY TIME THEY, I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN PERSON OR, OR GET SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY AND THEN THEY, THEY MAKE THEIR CHANGES WITH WITHIN THEIR BUDGET, BUT IT IT, THEY NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT IS DOING EVERYBODY ELSE.
I DO KNOW THAT THE CURRENT APPRAISAL APPRE CHIEF APPRAISED CHIEF APPRAISER IS VERY, VERY HAPPY WITH HIS SYSTEM.
AND HE ENCOURAGED US TO GET ON HIS SYSTEM.
WELL, I'M SURE IF I UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH PROBLEM THIS CAUSES THERE, BUT DON'T, I'M SURE THAT'LL WORK WITH US ON IT.
I'LL FIND, WELL, I WANT, I WANT TO SEE IT IN WRITING.
I MEAN, I WANT TO SEE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN WE CAN POINT AT SAYING, YOU SAID YOU WOULD NOT SWITCH SYSTEMS WITHOUT OUR PROB.
I I'M SURE IF THERE'S NO LEGAL REASON, THAT CAN'T BE DONE.
THERE'S NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ENFORCEMENT
IS THAT WHY WE HAD A PROBLEM RE THE LAST YEAR THE CERTIFIED LEVY WAS PRODUCED AND TO BRING INTO THE LEGACY SOFTWARE, NEW PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST WOULDN'T GO WHEN THERE WAS THIS CONSTANT FINGER POINTING THING ALONG.
WE HAD, WE HAD A HARD TIME SETTING THE TAX RATE.
WE, WE REALLY WEREN'T COMFORTABLE AFTER FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND THIS IS, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.
WE, WE GET, WE GET FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT RATES AND, AND RESULTS OF RATES WHILE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO FINALIZE THE BUDGET AND, AND IF THIS WILL HELP WITH THAT, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEAK TO TEXT, BUT I CAN SAY THERE, THERE'LL BE TWO MICROSOFT SQL SERVER DATABASES THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATED.
THERE WON'T BE AN ISSUE OF CONVERTING FROM A PICK DATABASE OVER TO A SQL DATABASE.
A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE GUYS FROM SHORT NATION, WHEN THEY DO THE CONVERSION FROM THE LEGACY TAX PRODUCT TO THE NEW SQL PRODUCT, THEIR DEVELOPERS AND THEIR FOLKS ON STAFF WE'RE PICK CODERS AND THEY KNOW THE PRODUCT AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE CONVERSION.
RIGHT, BUT WELL, WELL, I'M GONNA SAY THIS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ALMOST EVERY YEAR WE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PROBLEMS THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS WORKING WITH A DIFFERENT SYSTEM AND GOING AND IS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN THE TAX OFFICE AND THERE'S A LOT OF FINGER POINTING.
WELL, I WANT TO POINT OUT THE FRENCH AND THE BRITISH BUILT A TUNNEL, THEY DUG FROM TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND SOMEHOW THEY MET IN THE MIDDLE.
IF WE CAN, IF THE FRENCH AND THE BRITISH CAN DO THAT, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO IT.
THEY WANTED $78,000 TO WRITE THAT SYSTEM.
I DIDN'T EVEN COME ASK FOR THAT
BUT THIS WILL BEEN 200,000 HERE.
THIS WILL RESOLVE A WHOLE LOT MORE.
FOR EXAMPLE, LAST YEAR'S CONVERSION, FOR SOME REASON A NUMBER OF FROZEN ACCOUNTS DIDN'T COME ACROSS FROZEN.
AND WE HAVE ALMOST DAILY HAD TO DEAL WITH THE TAXPAYER THAT SAYS, HEY, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
OKAY, BUT BACK TO THIS CONVERSION THING THAT, UH, BUT DO YOU, DID NEITHER ONE OF YOU THINK THAT THAT'S AN OPTION, A VIABLE OPTION TO GO FROM LEGACY PRODUCT TO TRUE AUTOMATION? BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THEIR GEO CODE IN A 24 CHARACTER CODE, WHICH OUR LEGACY PRODUCT WON'T SUPPORT.
I MEAN, THIS CONVERSION THING WON'T IN, I MEAN IT
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THERE'S TWO ISSUES.ONE IS, WELL, WHEN A CERTIFIED LEVY IS PRODUCED BY THE TAX OFFICE, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT DATA INTO A TC OR, OR TAX, OUR TAX COLLECTION MODULE.
IF YOU HAVE TWO PRODUCTS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN TWO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, AND IN THE CASE OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD A MICROSOFT SQL SERVER PRODUCT AND ANOTHER PRODUCT WRITTEN A LANGUAGE CALLED PICK, WHICH IS A IBM DATABASE CALLED UNIVERSE.
SO YOU HAVE TO CONVERT THE DATABASE, BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME DATABASE.
NOT ONLY ARE WE TALKING THE SAME PLATFORM, BOTH MICROSOFT SQL SERVER, BUT THE SAME VENDOR.
SO THE DATABASE SCHEMA OR THE TABLES AND THE FIELDS ARE THE SAME.
SO YOU NO LONGER HAVE A CONVERSION.
OH, I I SO WE'RE PAYING $170,000 EXTRA NOT TO HAVE A CONVERSION THING.
THEN WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO ASK IS DO YOU THINK THAT THIS CONVERSION THING THAT DICK WAS TALKING ABOUT WOULD WORK? I MEAN, IS IT DICK SAID HE DIDN'T BRING IT BECAUSE IT, IT, IT JUST WASN'T GONNA ANSWER ALL.
THE FIRST REASON IS THE GEO CODE IS DIFFERENT.
OUR LEGACY PRODUCT WON'T SUPPORT WHAT THEIR DESIRE IS.
AND I THINK GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO WRITE A CONVERSION ROUTINE FROM A PICK FROM A SQL PRODUCT TO PICK PRODUCT.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S AN ANTIQUATED WELL, AND THEN THEY FOUND THEY COULD DO IT.
THEY GAVE YOU IS THE, WELL, THE PROBLEM IS EVERY TIME THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE, THE DATABASE CHANGES AND THE RULES CHANGE.
SO EVERY TIME, EVERY TIME WE GO INTO A TAX SEASON, WHATEVER LEGISLATORS CHANGING WILL COME ABOUT, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BOTH VENDORS HAVE DEALT THEM, MIGHT HAVE FIX IN THEIR SYSTEM.
SO EVEN IF WE WRITE THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR THIS, THIS BANG INTERFACE WILL CHANGE BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE MIGHT HAVE TO WRITE ANOTHER SEVEN EIGHT, BUT IF WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE THE SAME VENDOR IN TAX AND IN AND APPRAISAL AND IN COLLECTIONS, THEN IT'S THE SAME DATABASE SCHEME OF CHANGES HAVE THE SAME NAMES, THE FIELD NAMES ARE THE SAME.
THE CHARACTER LENGTHS OF THE EVERYTHING IS THE SAME.
GEORGE IS IS IS THE 24 CHARACTER CODE, IS THAT A STANDARD
YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, THAT DON'T KNOW WHY THAT THAT WAS THE DESIRE OF THE CHIEF APPRAISER.
SOME REASON WHY HE WANTED TO DO WELL IT HAS TO DO WITH MAPPING SYSTEM.
IT'S, IT IDENTIFIES WHERE THE PROPERTY AND QUESTION IS BY THE NUMBER AND IT'S, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON.
THESE ARE VERY GIS CENTRIC SOFTWARE PACKAGES AND WILL WORK WELL WITH OUR ARCHIVE SRSC PACKAGE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WELL, Y'ALL GOT ME CONVINCED NOW, JUDGE.
I NEED TO BRING UP ONE MORE THING.
I TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP.
THE SYSTEM WE'RE ON NOW WAS FINANCED ON A SEVEN YEAR BASIS AND WE STILL OWE THREE YEARS ON IT.
HOWEVER, A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT WE'RE STILL USING AND WILL UTILIZE IN SOFTWARE FINANCIALS.
BUT Y'ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
WE STILL OWE SOME ON THE PREVIOUS, UH, WHICH DIVERSIFIED LENDERS WERE WELL INTO THE NEW, THE NEW FINANC.
YEAH, WELL THIS IS BASICALLY $200,000 ADDITIONAL.
YEAH, I I, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, BUT YOU STILL GOTTA BE CONVINCED THAT THIS THING TO DO, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR TAX STATEMENTS OUT ON TIME.
WE GOTTA HAVE AN ACCURATE FIGURE AS TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND WHEN WE START WORKING ON OUR BUDGET.
UH, IF THAT'LL DO ALL OF THAT, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HAD IN SIX YEARS.
WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND IF WE STAY WITH THE CURRENT VENDOR AND WENT WITH THEIR NEW SYSTEM, UH, THAT IS, UH, 38,000.
WELL, IT'S 30 140,000 IF YOU WERE GO WITH THE NEW SYSTEM, WITH THE CURRENT VENDOR.
UH, SO THERE IS A SAVINGS IF WE WENT THAT WAY.
BUT I THINK THE SAVINGS, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT US BEING ON THE SAME PAGE AS THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, IT'S WORTH THAT EXTRA MONEY.
ALRIGHT? WE'RE PAYING ABOUT 90 GRAND MORE TO CHANGE VENDOR.
BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TO PAY 140 ANYWAY.
I MEAN WE, THEY'VE ABANDONED OUR SYSTEM SO WE WE'RE FORCED TO CONVERT.
WELL, LEMME SEE IF I'VE GOT A COMMISSIONER WHO WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
WHAT'S THE QUESTION, JUDGE
THAT WE'RE GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR ATTENTION IS TO WORK ON THE SAME SYSTEM
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WE'RE WORKING ON.COULD WE APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO SUCH AN AGREEMENT SO WE CAN GET ON DOWN THE ROAD WITH THIS BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
I'M, I'M, I'M THE MOTION THAT FOR THAT CAVEAT IS SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO AGREEMENT WITH APPRAISAL DISTRICT THAT THEY'LL WORK WITH US ON IF, IF THEY CHANGE SYSTEMS, OKAY.
NOT THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT THAT, THAT THEY'LL JUST WORK WITH US, YOU KNOW, THAT AT LEAST NOTIFY US IN ADVANCE.
I'LL GET THAT AGREEMENT AS MUCH IN OUR FAVOR AS I POSSIBLY KEEP WE'LL PUT ADVICE AND CONSENT.
WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO, TO DO ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST A GENTLEMAN'S UH, AGREEMENT.
BUT, UH, BUT AT LEAST IF IT'S A GENTLEMAN'S IN WRITING AND IT COMES UP AGAIN, AT LEAST WE'VE DONE ALL WE COULD DO TO TRY AND PROTECT OURSELVES.
DID YOU GET THE WORDING OF THAT, LAURA? UH, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO READ? I HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO A WRITTEN AGREEMENT, THAT SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AWARD WITH COPPER COUNTY TAX OFFICE ON ANY FUTURE CHANGES ON FUTURE CHANGES, MAJOR COMPUTER CHANGES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE JUST RESTRICT IT TO COMPUTER, I CHANGES, RIGHT? I MEAN, JUST CHANGING THE NUMBERS.
I MEAN, GOING TO A 24 CHARACTER NUMBER, LOOK AT WHAT THAT'S COST.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER 24 CHARACTERS IS, BUT THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.
IT DOES, IT DOES IDENTIFY WITH THIS NEW MAPPING SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHY THEY WENT THERE.
OR IT NEW COORDINATES OR SOMETHING BETWEEN THE MAPPING SYSTEM.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS, BUT SOMEHOW THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT NUMBER.
APPRAISER CAN LOOK AT THAT NUMBER AND SEE THAT IT'S IN KEMP ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
MAKES, ON THE EAST SIDE, EAST SIDE.
WHAT'S MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
I THINK YOU SAID YOU AND OF COURSE THE OTHER THING, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SAVINGS WHEN WE GO THROUGH A BUDGET ALSO.
UH, DICK, WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, UH, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THE FIGURES ON THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION.
UH, DICK'S FIGURES SHOW THAT THERE WERE 1,928 VOTES FAR IN PROPOSITION AND 3,980 VOTES AGAINST ANY DISCUSSION.
THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DECLARE THAT, UH, UH, RESULTS OF THE BOND ELECTION ARE AS STATED.
I GUESS WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN GETTING A RECOUNT ON
UH, WISH MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TELLER.
NEXT, UH, WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, DICK, ONE OFF, UH, DICK HAD COME TO ME.
UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THE LADIES, UH, DOING THE, THE VOTING HAD POINTED OUT THAT THEY SPEND A LOT OF HOURS UP HERE AND THEY WORK HARD AND DO A LOT.
AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD PAY MORE MONEY, DICK, THEY SAID THE SAME THING.
DICK AND DICK CAME TO ME AND, AND I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T THINK IT'D BE A PROBLEM, UH, TO RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UH, THEN WE REALIZED THEN WE NEED TO BRING IT FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO, DICK, WHAT THEY'RE MAY MAKING WHAT NOW? SEVEN I AN HOUR.
THE APPROXIMATELY THE JUDGE MAKES MAYBE SEVEN 50.
I FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT THE EARLY VOTING ACTIVITY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THE JUDGES TO DO YOU HAVE THE 9, 8, 10, 9 FOR THE JUDGES? NINE FOR THE JUDGES, AND EIGHT FOR THE ALTERNATE.
10 FOR THE EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING OVERTIME.
JUST FOR THE EARLY VOTING? JUST FOR THE EARLY VOTING.
WE'LL APPROACH IT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION.
WE MAY DO DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ENTITIES ARE SHARING THE COSTS.
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I MAKE A MOTION, UH, I I NEED TO UNDERSTAND FIRST, EXCUSE ME, WHAT IS THIS $10 FOR TAX AND VOTER STAFF.WHO ARE THEY? OUR PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO WORK NIGHTS DURING THE EARLY VOTING DURING THE WHOLE TIME THEY'RE PAID QUESTION.
YEAH, THEY'RE PAID OUT OF THE ELECTION FUNDS RATHER THAN OUT.
THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THEIR PRIORITY? YEAH.
COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THEIR REGULAR PAYROLL.
THEY'RE NOT PAID DURING THEIR NORMAL WORK HOURS.
WELL, I SAY THAT THE WORK THEY DO IN ELECTION IS PAID BY THE ELECTION FUND RATHER THAN THEIR SALARY.
OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CLEAR THAT THAT'S THE, BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH OVERTIME PAID WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND HE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DOING THAT CORRECTLY AND WE HAD TO ADJUST IT.
UH, ARE WE SURE THAT WE ARE OKAY? WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY.
DOESN'T
IT'S SEPARATE CHECK AND SEPARATE ACCOUNTING, WHICH I GET, AND MOST OF IT I BILL TO THE, UH, PARTIES PRIMARY AND THIS TIME WE BILLING IT TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND CITIES.
IT'S DONE THAT WAY INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM COMP TIME FOR WORKING.
THAT'S A VOLUNTARY, THAT'S NOT A MANDATORY THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU CAN'T, YOU'RE NOT MAKING 'EM COME UP HERE.
YEAH, I DO KNOW THEY'RE PAID SETTLE.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE'RE BILLING IT OUT TO THE CITIES AND SCHOOLS AND, UH, IN THE PRIMARY WE BILL IT OUT TO THE, UH, THE PARTIES.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THE MOTION WAS MADE BY JERRY.
I'LL TRY TO BE BETTER NEXT TIME.
I JUST, I I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED AT WHAT THAT WAS GONNA COST US.
NEXT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR AN RLP FOR A SYSTEM UPGRADE OF DISPATCH CONSOLE.
N-P-S-P-A-C REPEATER STATION VHF CONTROL STATIONS AND ASSOCIATED HARDWARE.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT CAT PAGEANT GEORGE SPOKE ON A FEW WEEKS AGO ENABLE US TO USE 700 800 MEGAHERTZ COMMUNICATE WITH THE SURROUNDING CITIES.
IS THIS, UH, GRANT MONEY? YES, SIR.
IT MAKES RULING MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
AND I HAVE SOME DATES IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, CLOSE ON JUNE 16TH, 5:00 PM AND ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF RFPS JUNE 19TH AT THE NINE 30, UH, MEETING OF MR. OKAY.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSING CONSIDER REPLANT OF EMPEROR HEIGHTS COFFEE COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR.
NO,
HOW YOU DOING TODAY? I'M WONDERFUL.
UM, I THINK THE MAYOR WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE FIRST, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST CONTINUE? OKAY.
JUST TO, UH, UH, REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.
UH, SCURRY HAS JUST BEEN INCORPORATED AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS THAT THE COUNTY FOR CONTROLLED SUBDIVISION, UH, REGULATIONS WITHIN THE CITY UNTIL THEY'RE PREPARED.
UH, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE MAYOR ON A REPL, UH, OF AMBER LAST TIME WE TABLED IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF OUR DEDUCTION ORDER.
AND NOW THE, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS AGREED THAT, UH, ALL THE PAPERWORK IS CORRECT AND THAT, UH, THE MAYOR RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL.
AM I, AM I CORRECT, SIR? THAT SIR, YOU? YES.
I'D I'D LIKE YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS PLEASE.
THE JUDGE ALSO ASKED ME TO GET SIGNED AFFIDAVITS FROM EVERYONE THAT DO THAT.
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YEAH.I'D LIKE TO BRING THIS UP TO DATE VERY BRIEFLY.
I HAVE BEFORE ME A DOCUMENT, UH, DATED NOVEMBER THE 18TH, 2005, JOINT MAKING CONCERN, GEM LAND INVESTMENTS.
MR. DARRELL HILL, REQUEST THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAT FILE FOR AMORITES BE EMITTED AS FOLLOWS.
ALL INTERIOR LOTS WERE SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS 21 THROUGH 37, AND ALL INTERIOR ROADS TO SAID LOTS BE REPLACED, COME TWO 12 PLUS ACRE TRACKS OF LAND.
THIS IS WHAT WE BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION ON AT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE AGONIZED OVER THIS FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS AND REALLY WHAT'S BEEN OUR CONCERN, I HAVE HERE A DOCUMENT CALLED DEED RESTRICTIONS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS FOR AMBER HEIGHTS.
KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, AMBER HEIGHTS IS EITHER WHOLLY WITHIN THE, UH, CITY LIMITS OF SCURRY OR WITHIN THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
WE WERE CONCERNED WITH ARTICLE THREE IN THIS DOCUMENT WHERE IT SAYS THESE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS SHALL RUN WITH, UH, WITH AND BIND THE LAND SUBJECT THERE TO, FOR A TERM OF 30 YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THIS DECLARATION IS RECORDED, AFTER WHICH TIME SAID COVENANT SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED, EXTENDED OR SUCCESSIVE PERIODS OF 10 YEARS UNLESS AN INSTRUMENT SIGNED BY TWO THIRDS OF THE OWNERS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BASED ON TOTAL ACREAGE ON NOT ON NUMBERS, HAS BEEN RECORDED, AGREEING TO CHANGE THE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS.
THE COUNCIL DECIDED THAT, UH, THAT PRETTY WELL COVERED EVERYTHING WITHIN THE LEGAL RESTRICTION.
THEY COULD BE CHANGED BY THE PEOPLE.
HOWEVER, AS WE FURTHER DELIBERATED, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION WITHOUT BEING A LAWYER TO THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT SAYS IN, UH, SECTION 2 32 0.041, UH, SECTION C, THE REVISIONS WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE ESTABLISHED RIGHTS OF ANY OWNER OF A PART OF THE SUBDIVIDED LAND.
ARE EACH OWNER WHOSE RIGHTS MAY BE INTER UH, INTERFERED WITH, HAS AGREED TO THE REVISION.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE DECIDED WITHOUT ATTORNEY.
WE HIRED AN ATTORNEY, BUT HE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE AFTER.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THIS WOULD SUPERSEDE THAT BUSINESS OF THAT, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OWN THE MOST LAND.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, BUT THAT WAS OUR CONCERN.
I WOULD REMIND THE, UH, ACCOUNT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT WE HAVE 300 LOCAL AGREEMENTS, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, STREET REPAIR, AND S EXISTENCE.
WE ALSO ASSUMED THAT THAT, UH, WHATEVER HAPPENED AT A HEIGHTS WOULD NOT CHANGE ANY PART OF OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY.
WOULD UH, THAT BE RIGHT? JUDGE BE IT WOULD CHANGE.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ANY AGREEMENT WE GOT.
I I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS, MAYOR, WHEN WE GET THROUGH, BUT, UH, VERY WELL SOME COMMENTS.
UH, WHEN WE AGREED TO THIS, UH, WHEN YOU, WHEN IT DID APPROVE IT IN COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WE, UH, NEEDED AN AFFIDAVIT FROM, UH, THE, ALL THE LANDOWNERS THAT THEY APPROVED THIS.
AND I HAVE IN MY HAND HERE, IT'S CALLED AFFIDAVIT OF APPROVAL FOR CHANGE IN AMBER HEIGHTS FLAT MAP.
IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, UH, THE D RESTRICTIONS.
AND I HAVE NINE OF THESE, MR. YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT PRESENTLY OWNED PARTS OF AMBER HEIGHTS.
I HAVE, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY, THIS DID MEET.
THESE, UH, AFFIDAVITS OF APPROVAL FOR CHANGE DATE FROM, UH, JANUARY, 2006 UP TO TWO MONTHS AGO.
AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE PART ALL MOTORIZED AND THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE OWNERS INVOLVED SUBMIT THE COURT BACK TO SEAT.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, AND LIKE, WHAT, THAT'S NOT OUR
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REQUIREMENT, THAT'S STATE LAW, SO THAT'S OKAY.BUT, BUT YOU READ WHILE AGO, THERE AGAIN WAS OUR CONCERN ABOUT THE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE COMING IN AND BUYING THESE TWO 10 PLUS AC TRACKS, GETTING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE AND CHANGING ALL THE DEEP RESTRICTIONS.
AS WE AGONIZED OVER THIS MATTER, WE DECIDED THAT, UH, WE JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THIS PLA BE, UH, RE PLATING, BE APPROVED BY THE
MY FIRST QUESTION, IS THIS TOTALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS OF STERN? IT IS WITHIN, PART OF IT IS WITHIN MAY.
PART OF IT IS WITHIN THE, UH, CITY LIMITS DOWN ONE STREET AND UP 1 48, ALL OF IT.
THE REST OF IT IS IN WITH THE EXTRA TERRITORIES, JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE OUR AN LOCAL AGREEMENT, NOT JUST IN THEIR ETJ, IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.
CITY AND E TJ, IT, UH, CONTROLS ALL SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THE CITY DEGREE IN THEIR ETJ.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF WHAT'S REQUESTED TO BE DONE? I GOT, I GOT THE BASIC PLA I THINK IN THE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE READING.
NO, I WANT, SEE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, YOUR HONOR.
HE SAID SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING ABOUT REVERTING THIS TO TWO 12 ACRE LOTS.
ALL, ALL THE INTERIOR RATHER THAN BEING 17 INDIVIDUAL LOTS WHERE THEY MAKE TWO 10 PLUS ACRE LOTS.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING HE'S DOING, MAKING SMALLER.
MR. HILL HAS INFORMED THE CITY, IF I MAY, THAT UH, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THE STREETS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OF THEM BY THE COUNTY.
SO THE ONLY THIS, THIS HE CHANGED 12 WHEN YOU GOT THE AFFIDAVITS FROM EVERYONE THAT MAY I OWNS PROPERTY THERE.
THAT WAS YOUR REQUEST AT OUR LAST MEETING.
I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT FROM EVERY SINGLE, THIS WAS NOT MY ORIGINAL PLAN.
UH, THAT THE CAUSE OF THE NEW REGULATIONS CONCRETE STRAITS, IT JUST MADE DOLLAR AND WISE, UH, COST ME $248,000 TO BUILD THE ROADS AT THE TIME I DIVIDED IT, NUMBER ONE, I DON'T HAVE THE MAKE NUMBER TWO, IT WOULDN'T JUST LOSE REMAINS TO THE MAKE.
WHAT IS IN OUR CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
WHAT'S THE MINIMUM PRICE ON MARKET? 20.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S AT LEAST 25.
AND I'M ASSUMING THESE FRONTAGE, THESE TWO FRONTAGES ARE NOT 25 FEET.
THESE TWO FRONTAGES ARE 60 FEET, WHICH IS THE SAME AS WHAT'S A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES OUT INTO A, UH, I DON'T, I'M ASKING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME.
THESE WILL ESSENTIALLY JUST BE TWO DRIVEWAYS AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS ON A DRIVEWAY, UH, ON, BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE STRICT.
THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE,
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UH, UNDER THE LOUISVILLE THAT OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY ARE MET.THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW WITH THESE INTER I THINK THESE NEED TO BE FILED WITH THE, OKAY.
IT'S GOTTA BE, IF WE, IF WE AGREE TO THIS RELA AND I SIGN AND THIS STAY WITH LAURA.
THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I MIGHT POINT OUT.
THIS, THIS COMPUTER, THIS INTERNET'S GONNA BE THE DEATH OF ME
NO, I READ THIS STUFF AND I NEED A LAWYER SITTING BY MY LEFT SIDE AS, AS I LOOK AT THIS STUFF AND TRY TO WORK IN THE CITY.
WE DO HAVE A CITY LAWYER THAT NEEDS SOME DOUBT.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING IN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THIS IS, UH, SECTION 2 32 0.042, UH, PARAGRAPH E UNTIL APPROVED WATER AND SEWER SERVICES ARE MADE.
THIS IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS ABOUT.
AND I'M MUST, AND I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS, ARE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE SUBDIVISION, THE SUBDIVIDED OF THE LAND FOR WHICH A DELAY IS GRANTED UNDER THIS SECTION MUST PROVIDE AT NO COST TO RESIDENTS.
25 GALLONS OF PORTABLE WATER A DAY FOR EACH RESIDENT AND A SUITABLE CONTAINER FOR STORING WATER.
THEY HAVE THIS, THERE ARE WATER AVAILABLE, SUITABLE TEMPORARY SANITARY WASTEWATER, DISPOSABLE FACILITIES FOR FREE.
HOW WILL THAT AFFECT OUR, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY? DOES THAT HAVE ANY EFFECT? I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANY EFFECT IN LOCAL AGREEMENT.
I JUST, LIKE I SAID THAT I FIND THESE THINGS ON THE INTERNET AND UH, WELL, THE COUNTY IS, UH, PROVIDED THAT SAFEGUARD ALREADY IN THAT BEFORE THEY APPROVE THE PLACE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE WATER.
I THINK WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL OUGHT DO, MAYOR, I THINK Y'ALL WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND ADOPT OUR COUNTY REGS.
THEN SEE IF THAT'S, 'CAUSE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY REGULATING SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF, OF SCURRY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. COMMISSIONER, THAT'S WHY I WAS QUESTIONING ABOUT OUR AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY'S GOING TO REGULATE THEN STAND.
THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT FOR SUBDIVISIONS.
WE HAVE THREE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS.
ONE IS WHERE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS MM-HMM
THE OTHER IS STREET REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.
THE OTHER IS SEPTIC SYSTEMS. MM-HMM
WE HAVE THESE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE DON'T YET HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO EVEN ENFORCE THESE.
WELL THE SEPTIC, I MEAN NOT THE SEPTIC, BUT THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE DO, WE HAVE ADOPTED THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS OF COLTON COUNTY AND SEE IF THEY HAVE THEN THEY CONTROL INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
I, I EXCEPT, AND ALL WE DO IS, EXCEPT THIS IS SPLIT BETWEEN CITY LIMITS AND EACH OF J RIGHT.
IT'S NOT ALL IT IS NOT ENTIRELY.
BUT DON'T WE HAVE, UH, IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENTS IN IT IN THERE THAT IF ANY PART OF A SUBDIVISION LIES WITHIN THE CITY, THEN IT'S THE CITY.
IF WHAT I THINK WHAT THE JUDGE IS SAYING IS THAT IF YOU TAKE OUR, YOU HAVEN'T ADOPTED 'EM BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU'RE USING OURS AND WE'RE CONTROLLING THEM, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TAKE OURS AND DO A GOOD JOB OF PLAGIARIZING AND HAVE I CAN DO THAT OFF THE INTERNET.
THE MAYOR, WE CAN GIVE YOU, WE CAN GIVE YOU A COPY IF YOU JUST HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED THAT.
AND YOU'LL WANT TO, THEN YOU WON'T HAVE TO MESS WITH IT.
YOU'LL WANT TO POST YOUR NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA ACT ON THEM AND, AND GIVE PUBLIC, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.
YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR REGULAR, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT THE, UH,
IF IT'S NOT LIMITS, NOT, NOT YOURS.
THAT'S THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOUR, BUT YOU CAN ADOPT OUR, WE DON'T CARE IF YOU PLAGIARIZE US.
THAT'S, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT, UH,
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OPTION I TAKE WITH YOU.THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO NEXT IN THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, I I DON'T THINK PERSONALLY, I MEAN THOSE ARE FLAG LOCKS.
ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE MINIMUM FRONTAGE.
AND ONCE WE SET THAT PRECEDENT OF A PROVEN FLAG LOTS, HOW DO WE SAY THIS DEVELOPER CAN DO IT AND THIS ONE CAN'T WHEN THE SOLUTION, I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS YOU CAN GET THE MINIMUM FRONTAGE.
'CAUSE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE ONE OF THOSE LOTS YOU HAVEN'T SOLD YET AND ATTACH IT TO ONE OF THOSE PIECES IN THE BACK AND THEN YOU, YOU'RE IN ALL COMPLIANCE.
SO THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY TO, UH, TO INCREASE THE FRONTAGE ON, ON THOSE LOTS OR MAKE MORE MONEY SELLING LOTS.
NO, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN.
I MEAN, THAT'S A BUSINESS DECISION YOU NEED TO MAKE.
IF WE, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO START SETTING THE PRECEDENT OF, OF APPROVING LESS THAN THE MINIMUM FRONTAGES ON ROADS, WHAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR A DRIVEWAY? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A DRIVEWAY.
ARE THESE DRIVEWAYS OR ARE THESE ALL IN THE WORLD? THAT IS, IS A DRIVEWAY TO GO TO A NICE BIG HOUSE.
BUT NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON, THE REASON I CAN'T READ THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER LEONARD IS THIS YARD BELONGS TO SOMEONE AND THAT LOT BELONGS TO SOMEONE.
I CAN'T GO BACK IN THERE AND TAKE PART OF SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
THIS IS A 60 FOOT DRIVEWAY THAT COMES TO A HOUSE RIGHT HERE.
IT'S NOT A FLAG LOT, IT'S JUST A LONG DRIVEWAY.
IT WOULD BE A FLAG LOT IF THEY DIVIDED THAT UP, I GUESS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S JUST, UH, I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU DID BRING THAT UP AT OUR LAST MEETING AND, UM, I THINK, UM, REFER, THE JUDGE SAID HIS MAIN CONCERN, OF COURSE IT IS WRONG THAT I GET THESE DONE AND IF IT TOOK, UM, A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, VARIANCE OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT GOING BE SUBDIVIDED THAT A 60 FOOT DRIVEWAY BE ACCEPTABLE.
AND I THINK IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S A HUNDRED.
IF, IF YOU WERE GONNA MAKE ROADS, I THINK AT THE ACCESS IS A HUNDRED FEET AND, AND THESE ARE ONLY 60, WHICH IS WHAT SUBDIVISION ROADS ARE 60 FEET.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS, WAS THAT IT WAS A ROAD.
THE, AND, UH, AND THOSE THAT, THAT DIDN'T CHANGE YET.
COMMISSIONER LEONARD, THIS IS THE SAME WIDTH NOW AS IT WAS WHEN THIS PLAT WAS APPROVED.
UH, JUDGE, ALL THAT WAS APPROVED WAS THE FRONTAGE, THE THE BACK PART HASN'T BEEN APPROVED.
ALL OF THIS WAS APPROVED AND ALL OF THIS WAS APPROVED.
UM, ALL ON THAT ROAD AND ALL ON THIS ROAD.
BUT MY POINT IS THIS IS THE SAME, UH, FOOTAGE AS IT WAS WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED.
THE ONLY THING I'M DOING IS JUST MAKING TWO LOTS BACK HERE IS TO WHAT IF YOU SOLD ONE OF THOSE LOTS IN, IN THE BACK TO JOE BLOW FROM DALLAS, AND HE COMES IN THERE AND HE SAYS, HEY, I GOT 12 ACRES.
UH, CAN'T, IT REQUIRES ONE ACRE LOTS.
I'M GOING, I'M GOING TAKE THIS 12 AND, AND, AND REFL IT TO, UH, YOU'D HAVE TO APPROVE THAT 12 ONE ACRE LOTS.
I HEARD IT DOWN, IF YOU WOULD.
THAT'S, I ALREADY HAVE BOTH LOTS SOLD.
AND THEY'RE NOT UNDER GOING WITHOUT DOUBT.
WELL, YOUR HONOR, I'M STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP HERE WITH, IF IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS THEN TO, UH, APPROVE THIS.
IS THAT TRUE? OR SHOULD THE CITY GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE IN THIS MATTER? HOW DO WE WORK THIS THAT I I QUESTION US HAVING THE AUTHORITY INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
UH, I DON'T QUESTION US HAVING AUTHORITY IN YOUR ETJ.
THERE'S NO QUESTION IF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL ADOPT OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS OR ANY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THEN AND TAKE IT OUTTA THE COUNTY'S HANDS, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY
WELL, THIS, UH, IN OUR ACTION OF APPROVING THIS, THERE REALLY ISN'T, DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND, BECAUSE
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THIS IS WHAT THE, THE, THE COMMISSIONER ASKED Y'ALL TO DO, IS TO TELL THE COUNTY THAT IT WAS OKAY WITH Y'ALL AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DID IN YOUR MEETING.WELL, THERE AGAIN, WE'RE RUNNING ACROSS THE LEGAL GALLIES OF WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS THE AUTHORITY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS ACT.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE HAS SAID, UH, VERY WELL.
I CAN'T WITHDRAW WHAT THE, UH, WHAT OUR COUNSEL HAS DONE, BUT WELL, BUT REMEMBER THE, UH, LITTLE, UH, EXPO FACTO LAW WE HAVE IN TEXAS, UH, AFTER ACQUIRED TITLE RATHER, NOT THE EX, BUT AFTER ACQUIRED TITLE YOU'VE DONE CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE THIS.
YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR NEXT STEP AND ADOPT OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AND THEN YOUR CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS REFL.
OKAY, WELL, I THINK, I THINK YOU'D HAVE, THEY'D HAVE TO RUN IT BACK THROUGH THEIR CITY COUNCIL, NOT AN ATTORNEY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN PASS A LAW, PASS A LAW AFTER.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET WHERE THEY CAN GET IT DONE TO HELP MR. HILL AND GET IT DONE.
WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE COUNTY.
YOU TRYING TO HELP THE CITY OR I KNOW, I KNOW A DEVELOPER IN JERRY'S PRECINCT THAT HAS BEEN TURNED DOWN AND HE'S JUST WAITING FOR US TO APPROVE AND FLAG WHERE HE YEP, YEP.
EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA BE A LARGE ENOUGH TOWN TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE A LAWYER SITTING AT MY RIGHT SHOULDER AND TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, I'M GONNA GO, WELL, I THINK WHAT Y'ALL DONE IS, IS GOOD.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WON DO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT'S IN Y'ALL CITY.
IT'S NOT OUT IN THE COUNTY EXCEPT PART OF IT.
BUT, BUT WHAT OUR AGREEMENT WITH Y'ALL IS, YOU KNOW, IT FITS IN CITY LIMITS AND Y'ALL WANT TO CONTROL THE SUBDIVISIONS.
YOU CONTROL THE SUBDIVISIONS IN YOUR CITY LIMITS AND IF YOU WANT TO, AND ETJ, IF A PART OF IT LIES IN THE CIVIL LIMITS, THEN Y'ALL GET WELL, WHAT I'LL DO THEN IS I'LL, WHEN I GET HOME, I'LL CALL THE ATTORNEY, TELL, TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
TO GET THE REGULATIONS ABOUT I'LL WORK.
IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, ROBERT.
OKAY, MAYOR, LET ME, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU THE, THIS FILE AND WOULD OKAY.
UH, THEY GOT THE, THEY GOT THE TWO.
IF YOU DRAWING, MR. HILL HAS BELONG HERE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR ENTERTAIN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER GELLER MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM AS FAR AS OUR ACTION GOES.
AND COMMISSIONER SHANE SECONDED IT ALL.
TELL WHY WE, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.
YOU NEED TO WORK, YOU NEED TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE CITY OF SECURITY.
SO NOW THE SECUR, THEY'VE APPROVED IT ON THEIR CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE'VE LET THEM, LET THEM TAKE IT UP.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A DOG IN THEIR FIGHT, SO TO SPEAK.
SO IF THEY APPROVE IT, WELL, THEY'RE, WELL, THEY'RE, NO, THEY'RE FIRST GONNA, THEY'RE FIRST GONNA HAVE TO PUT THEMSELVES IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT AS FAR AS REGULATING SUBDIVISION LIMITS.
IF THEY ADAPT TO YOUR, THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION.
THEN YOU STRICTLY AFTER THEM WHETHER THEY APPROVED OR NOT.
STEP TWO IS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REVISE THEIR INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH US, BECAUSE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE APPROVE IT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO UNDO THAT, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A SEVERAL STRAP PROCESS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE STREAMLINED AS LONG AS WE DON'T.
SOON AS THEY GET THEIR, UH, SOON AS THEY GET THEIR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WE'LL IMMEDIATELY CHANGE IT.
MR. COMMISSIONER, CAN I FIND ALL THIS ON THE INTERNET, PLEASE?
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MS. TABLE.ALL IN FAVOR? UH, WE HAVE ITEMS 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, DEAL WITH REQUEST FROM SPREAD TELEPHONE TO VERY TABLE IN PRECINCT FOUR.
WE WERE GETTING THE PHONE SERVICE DOWN THERE IN HERE.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR SPRINT ON COUNTY ROAD? 40 27, 40 42, 40 55, 40 56 AND 46.
SECOND TO BARRY, INSTALL BARRY TABLE ALONG THE RIGHT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
NOW THEY WON'T DO ONE IN YOUR, YOUR PRECINCT.
AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
MOTION, UH, WE NEED TO CONSIDER DEPUTIZING HAA FOR THE CA COUNTY SHERIFF'S MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
THEN WE HAVE THE ATION OF DONALD NEWBORN NEW FOR THE COL COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WAS THERE ANY PREVIOUS LOSERS BEEN LATE AS UP THIS MORNING.
JUDGE I THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THIS REPORT.
YOU WANTED A GOOD CHICKEN FRIED STEAK THAT WAS THE BEST TO 99% ON THE RACE TRACK.
UH, LISTEN TO THE BOSTON RADIO STATION DRIVING UP THIS MORNING AND, UH, POSE THE QUESTION, WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SHOOT HORSES WHEN THEY BREAK A LEG? BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE TO WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT BOILED DOWN TO.
WELL, THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM IS REAL.
WELL, YEAH, BUT BUT SEE THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE.
IF, IF THE OWNER WANTS TO SPEND THE MONEY TO SAVE IT.
SO ANYWAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? YES, I DO.
WE PROPOSED LOAN ITEM TRANSFERS TO THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW.
INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLY IS 1500 INCREASED DUES 100 WITH A REDUCTION IN BONDS OF A HUNDRED.
A REDUCTION OF, UH, COURT COORDINATOR COSTS 1508 6 DISTRICT COURT INCREASED DUES, 200 WITH REDUCTION IN OFFICE FURNITURE, JUDICIAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
INCREASED PROSECUTION EXPENSE.
300 WITH REDUCTION OF MISCELLANEOUS.
THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO INCREASED OFFICE FURNITURE 100 WITH CONDUCTION IN DUES.
THE JAIL FUND INCREASED JANITORIAL SUPPLIES 8,000 WITH REDUCTION IN GROCERIES.
INCREASED SUPPLIES 2000 WITH REDUCTION IN BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE, UH, SOME BUDGET INCREASES.
UM, GRANT FROM THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE OF $19,083 AND THEN THE ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE SETTLE EQUIPMENT OF $30,000.
WITH THE INCREASE IN NEW EQUIPMENT, THE RUN ADAM TRANSFER REQUEST WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SAY ABOUT COMMISSIONER WINTER.
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MAYBE NOT BY THIS PERSON, BUT ABBREVIATION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE FROM, I HAVE A FEELING SOMEBODY'S GONNA BUY IT.NOT BECAUSE THEY WENT TO TEXAS.
DID THAT GET IN? OH NO, I'M TRYING, I TRYING TO SEND SOMETHING OVER THERE LAST WEEK.
I GUESS WE'RE JUST GONNA GIVE THAT UP.
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YOU MADE A MISTAKE.YOU THOUGHT HE WAS WRONG? IT'S PRETTY SHY WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHERE, WHO DID IT? WHERE DID IT BE? UH, 29.
THE TWO PEOPLE, THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT SHOULD BE FOOD, BUT GO AROUND THAT WAY.
I TALKED TO PDS AND JAY AND HE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MORE WORKSHOPS BECAUSE HE HAS SOME THINGS HE WANTS TO CHANGE.
HE SAID ONE OF THE ONES HE WANTS TO CHANGE IS THAT ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE MAIN ARM ARTERIALS.
WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED ON THOSE.
AND IF THAT WAS ADDRESSED AND I TOLD HIM THAT WE HAD A DRAFT ON THE WEBSITE AND HE GOES, WELL WE COULD YOU PUBLIC HEARING WHO IS THIS? SCOTT? PB.
SO HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE GOES, WELL MAYBE I'LL JUST COME DOWN AND MEET WITH YOU AND WE'LL ROLL OVER THE CHANGES.
AND I SAID, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
AND I WOULD EMAIL HIM TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEN I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MEET AND FIND OUT.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
AND THE, THE GREG WILL SAY THAT THE COMMISSIONERS GET NOTIFIED 48 HOURS PRIOR TO ANY MAJOR CONSTRUCTION AND, AND THAT ALL THESE TESTS ARE BEING DONE AND WE'RE GETTING THE
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RESULTS BACK.AND HE AND I SAID ALSO WITH THE SURVEYOR COMING IN AND DOING CERTAIN THINGS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THEM TO DO THE SURVEYORS BEING PAID TO DO SO.
HE SAID THAT HE AND SOME GUY NAMED HE DOWN ON FRIDAY AT ONE.
AND SO HE ASKED YOU THE TWO, COMMISSIONER THOSE TWO KNEW THE MOST ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION TO UM, COME AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
AND WE'RE NOT DOUBLE DIPPING WITH THE SURVEYORS.
SO WE HAVE THE COUNTY SURVEYORS.
AND THE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE, WHO ARE WHO? SCOTT.
THESE TWO COMMISSIONERS, THE SURVEYOR AND WE'RE JUST GONNA GO THROUGH WOULD RATHER BE HERE.
WELL HE WANTS TO GO THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION MORE ABOUT SURVEY AND STUFF.
WELL, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE, IT USED TO BE CHAPTER EIGHT.
THAT THEY'RE DOING THE, THE PER TEST AND THE LINE TEST AND THE COMPACTION AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
Y'ALL LOOK AT TWO OTHER CHANGES OR ONE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE ADDRESSED IT, BUT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF YOU SUB BY PROPERTY ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, PROPERTY THAT FRONTS MAJOR ROADS THAT MAKE IT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THAT.
AND UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD REQUIRE THEM TO KEEP AT A CERTAIN I DON'T THINK SO.
GET THAT UNDER A HEALTH SAFETY WILL.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK Y'ALL, Y'ALL LOOK AT, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT GET A LOT LESS, UH, RESISTANCE IF WE LOOK AT GOING JUST TWEAKING OUR FEES WHERE LEAVE IT PER FOOT IN PER LOT INSTEAD OF GOING TO FLAT RATE PER LOT.
WHY DON'T WE JUST GO LOOK AT THAT JUST A SECOND BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN RAISE MORE MONEY IN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WAS SO ALL RESISTANCE, BUT I THINK, WELL, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE OLD ONE AND IT SAID $25 A LOT PLUS A DOLLAR 50 FOR LINEAR FOOT.
WELL, THE NEW ONE, NOT THE NEW, THE ONE WE'RE UNDER NOW SAYS $25 A LOT PLUS $2 A LINEAR FOOT, WHICH MAKES IT 2 25.
SO IT'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, THREE.
WELL, I THINK IT MAYBE IF THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT, I THINK THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS HUNDRED 75.
WELL, I GOT INVOICE AT THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL MEETING.
YEAH, WELL I I THINK I HAD TOLD EVERYBODY IT WAS A DOLLAR 50 OF LINEAR FOOT PLUS $25, WHICH MAKES IT $175.
WELL JUST SUGGEST Y'ALL TAKE, LOOK AT THAT.
WELL I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BRING THAT UP.
WHAT KIND OF HEAT DID JIM WAS TALKING ABOUT DOING ABOUT ESCROW BASIS.
THEY, THEY DIDN'T, THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE BIG DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.
LIKE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TRADITIONS OF WISHY CREEK THAT, UH, UM, THEY'RE THINKING IN THEIR MIND, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE A CORRECT WHERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, YOU'RE DOING HOUSE ON ONE ACRE.
YOU ALSO, IT'S A HOUSE AND A HOUSE AND A HOUSE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BREAKING IT DOWN LINEAR FEET.
SO, LIKE DREW SAID, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ONLY GOING, UH, I THINK IT'S 30%.
I MEAN, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONLY GOING UP SEVEN.
IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FOR WHAT THE CITY SEES AS A SUBDIVISION VERSUS WHAT THE COUNTY SEES.
SO WHAT'S IN THERE? EXCUSE ME.
WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT? AT THE SUBDIVISION WORKSHOP, WE'RE NOT HAVING A WORKSHOP.
WE'RE HAVING PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY'RE HAVING, THEY'RE BASICALLY SCOTT PEACH BID ABOUT 65 OR 68.
UH, CAN Y'ALL, NEXT MONDAY IS MEMORIAL DAY, SO WE WILL NOT BE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
THE FOLLOWING MONDAY IS JUNE 5TH.
UH, ARE Y'ALL FREE THE AFTERNOON OF JUNE THE FIFTH TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS, UH, OPTIONS ON COURTS ROOMS WHERE WE'RE GONNA, I WAS GONNA ASK THE DISTRICT JUDGES TO, UH, EACH ONE OF THEM AND THE CATEGORY OF LAW TO KIND OF DRAW UP A LITTLE PLAN THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE US DISCUSS.
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AF WE HAVE OUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.COME BACK AT ONE OR ONE 30 AND HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS.
WELL, AND I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT NOW THAT IT'S THE SCHOOL YEAR, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT PORTABLE BUILDINGS.
NO, CORN'S GONNA BE BUYING THEM UP LIKE
WE GOTTA BE COMPETING WITH CORN.
HEY, WE GO STICK PORTABLE BUILDINGS AROUND THE SQUARE.
COFFMAN WILL BE FOR BUILDING SO FAST.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT, LAURA? IT'S JUST ONE OF THE COMMENTS MADE FROM THE FACILITIES PEOPLE.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA BE BUYING PORTABLE BUILDINGS.
OKAY, SO WE'LL SET THAT WORKSHOP IN THE AFTERNOON OF JUNE THE FIFTH.
AND, AND Y'ALL, Y'ALL WILL, Y'ALL GOT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL, AN IDEA Y'ALL HAVE, UH, DRAW OUT AND LAY IT OUT FOR US ALSO? WELL, WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
I HAVE THE, THE MACHINE IN MY OFFICE MAKE.
OH, I CAN'T BE THERE ON THE FIFTH.
THAT'S THE LATE AFTERNOON OF THE SIXTH.
IS THAT TUESDAY? THAT'S TUESDAY, JUNE THE SIXTH.
I'VE GOT THREE PROBATE CASES ALREADY SET THAT MORNING.
LIKE ONE 30 THEN OR ONE O'CLOCK.
I WAS HOPING ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK.
IS THAT, UH, OKAY, THAT'S, UH, WE SHUT UP.
DO YOU HAVE SET AGENDA FOR ALL COMPLAIN ABOUT? NO.
DO DO ANY OF YOU WANT COME TO THE FRIDAY MEETING THAT OR YOU CAN LET HAVE IT TELL YOU THE TRUTH? I THINK, I THINK THAT THERE'S ENOUGH CHANGES.
WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND POST IT AND LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST HAVE ONE MORE GO AROUND AND ADD IT BECAUSE I MEAN, 'CAUSE HERE'S WHY WE GOT, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET IT RIGHT.
THE NEXT, THE NEXT MEETING'S GONNA BE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT REALLY, FRIDAY WAS THE FIRST AVAILABLE POINT FOR SCOTT AND OKAY, I WHERE'D YOU GET THAT SCHEDULE FOR ME? YOU COURT ADMINISTRATOR.
ANY KIND OF ENGINEERING REPORT FRIDAY.
A WELL, IT WAS EITHER TOMORROW LAST AND DIDN'T GET TO GO.
FOR SOME REASON MY WIFE SAID I COULD GO BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING WITH ME.
WHERE WAS THIS WORK? WHERE WAS THIS LAST YEAR? MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.
SO I HAVE, I'M GOING THIS YEAR WITH AND WITHOUT YOUR WIFE.
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IT IS GOING UP THE MOUNTAINS BY MYSELF.MOTION MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR TO PAY THE BILLS.
ALL IN FAVOR? UH, NO MEETING NEXT WEEK.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK, BE SURE TO TELL.
YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE REGULATIONS ALREADY IN THE MAIL.
I ASKED THE LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS OUTTA TOWN.
OKAY, WELL Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND HAVE A GOOD WORKSHOP ON FRIDAY, JEFF COMING TO SPEAK.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AT ANGEL FIRE, I'LL MAKE IT.
I'LL BE, BECAUSE WE COULD DO IT OUT.
WELL, WE COULD ALL GET SOMEHOW WHERE I GO CAMP.
I DON'T THINK Y'ALL HAVE GUYS, BUT I DON'T THINK Y'ALL GONNA COME UP THERE.
OF COURSE, JERRY LIKES COMPANY OUT THE HOLIDAY INN, SO HE DOESN'T LIKE ROUGHING IT IN A MR. ER TO ADJOURN.