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JERRY, WOULD YOU OPEN THIS UP TODAY, PLEASE?
THANKFULLY, FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS, AND DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY, PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS.
GO WITH ALL OF OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY.
BE WITH THEM AND COMFORT THEM.
UH, SEND US SOME LIFE GIVING REIGN WHEN YOU THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
AND, UH, ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS' NAME.
HOW MAY RAIN PRAYER? DID YOU BRING YOUR OWN BROTHER?
UH, Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED COPY OF THE LAST MEETING, AND ANY ADDITIONS ARE CORRECTIONS.
IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN MOTION, PROVEN AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING IS MARILYN MAY.
IS MARILYN HERE? UH, MARILYN'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE, BUT SHE IS SENDING ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS LITTLE, UH, REQUEST.
WELL, I'M GLAD YOU RECOGNIZED I WAS NOT MARILYN MAY THIS MORNING.
JUST AS SOON AS I SAID THAT I REMEMBER THE NO, WELL, I GOT A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS THAT, AND, AND LET 'EM KNOW THAT IF THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING GOOD, GOOD LINK THERE.
IT WAS NOT, NOT ON PURPOSE HERE TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY WAS HERE TO DO THE BUSINESS TO, AND AS I READ, THE AGENDA MAY HAVE ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT ONE? IT'S JUST PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S ON THERE.
THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS THAT, UH, MARILYN HAD DISCUSSED WITH, UH, JUDGE JEN THAT, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTY AS HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PERMANENT FACILITY, WHICH HAS BEEN A, A REAL QUESTION AND A PROBLEM THAT ANNUALLY WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT FOR THE COUNTY.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE OF AN ONGOING PROJECT.
DOING IT ONE DAY AT ONE SITE, YOU GET VERY LITTLE RESPONSE.
AND IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAD A, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT ON A CONTINUING BASIS.
AND I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER LER HAS AGREED TO PUT ONE OF THOSE AT HIS, UH, NEW CONVENIENCE STATION.
THEN, UH, THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT CAME DOWN, I BELIEVE, FROM THE STATE THAT WE ACTUALLY STUDIED THE, UH, I BELIEVE ON THE AGENDA WE'RE CALLING THE COUNTY LANDFILL ORDINANCE, THAT THE STATE IS REQUIRING THAT THERE BE SUCH AN ANIMAL, OR AT LEAST THAT WE GO THROUGH THE STUDY TO SEE IF WE NEED ONE, AND THAT IT WAS THE SECOND ITEM, THE TECHNICAL STUDY TO EVALUATE AND ADOPT A COUNTY, UH, MUNICIPAL WASTE TO FACILITY, SIGHTING ORDINANCE, AND THEN A TECHNICAL STUDY TO EVALUATE, DESIGN, A BUSINESS PLAN FOR A COUNTYWIDE RECYCLING PROGRAM.
THIS COUNTY IS GROWING, UH, LEAPS AND BOUNDS, AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OUT HERE ASSUME THAT WE HAVE THOSE KIND OF FACILITIES.
AND WHETHER WE DO OR NOT, WE'RE GONNA NEED THEM IN THE FUTURE.
UH, GOT ONE RINGER THROWN IN HERE THAT I DON'T SEE ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT IS
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A LARGE AREA OF OLD TIRES DUMPED AT 35 71 COUNTY ROAD 1 21.I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT UNTIL I READ THIS THIS MORNING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SITUATION IS, BUT IT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY TO GET IT.
I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY 3000 TIRES OUT THERE.
I SAW THE PICTURES OF THAT I WAS BOUGHT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE, THE PEOPLE THAT OWNED THIS PROPERTY WENT, WENT OFF FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE DAYS ON A TRIP AND CAME BACK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN ON THEIR LAND.
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS WAY EVEN BEFORE THEN.
I THINK SOMEBODY DUMPED SOME TIRES OUT THERE AND THEN DON THINKS THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY, UH, WAS LOCALLY SOMEWHERE, WAS TAKING MONEY TO DISPOSE OF OLD TIRES AND JUST TOOK THEM OUT THERE.
THESE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT NOW JUST BOUGHT IT NOT LONG AGO.
AND WE, WE LET 'EM BRING, YOU KNOW, 120 TO THE, TO THE CLEANUP, BUT THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE A DENT IN IT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, UH, GRANT APPLICATION IS OUT THERE TO HELP WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S A, A VERY BAD SITUATION WITH TIRES.
YOU'VE GOT TIRES, YOU'VE GOT MOSQUITOES AND OTHER PROBLEMS THAT DEVELOPED VERY QUICKLY.
WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN COMMISSIONER SANDS PRECINCT BUILDING, COMPLETELY COVERED BY THE HUNT PROPERTY UP THERE.
NORTH TER, THAT WAS, I GOT DEPUTIES FROM DOWN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I MEAN, UH, GOT DEPUTY AND SOME PRISONERS AND THEY COME AND CLEAN UP.
AND HOW MANY TRUCKLOADS DID WE GET, VICKY? I WAS THINKING TWO OR THREE.
LOADS OF TIRES THAT WE HAUL OFF AT OUR SPEED.
THIS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE 10 SEMI TRAILER TRUCK LOADS.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IF WE DON'T GET REALLY NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP SOME WAY.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COURT.
UH, I THINK WHEN MARILYN FIRST, UH, SENT WORD AND REQUESTED BE ON THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA, I THINK THE TIRE AS A SECOND THOUGHT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T GET ON THE AGENDA.
SO I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, UH, PROVE, UH, MARYLAND MAKING GRANTS FOR THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, PERMANENT FACILITY TECHNICAL STUDY TO EVALUATE THE ADOPTED COUNTY MUNICIPAL OR WHATEVER THAT IS, FACILITY SITE ORDINANCE AND TECHNICAL STATE TO EVALUATE DESIGN A BUSINESS PLAN FOR COUNTYWIDE RECYCLING PROGRAM.
AND THEN I'LL PUT THE DI RECYCLING PROJECT ON THE NEXT BOARD.
UH, SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FELLER.
THANK YOU, MR. UH, RICK, I, I HAD SOME INFORMATION I WAS GONNA SEND YOU, BUT YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE IT ABOUT THE, UH, UH, REGENCY WATER PLAN AND, UH, I THINK I GOT IT, BUT IF YOU GOT SOMETHING EXTRA AND WANT ME TO CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE TO HAVE IT, I'VE OBJECT TO YOU, JUST HAVEN'T GOT, I'LL CHECK BACK WITH YOU LATER ON TODAY THEN.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER DECLARING EMERGENCY AND AMEND FISCAL YEAR 2005, 2006 BUDGET.
BUT Y'ALL KNOW, WHEN WE DISCUSSED AT BUDGET TIME TRYING TO MAKE A DEAL AND, AND JUST DEFENSE, WE KEPT THE BUDGET KIND OF LOW AND WE'RE ABOUT OUT OF BUDGET ROOM THERE.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE SO FAR, WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
SO THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THE INCREASE THE BUDGET DAMAGE OF DEFENSE, ABOUT THREE 15,000.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, BUDGET REQUIREMENTS IN OUR, UH, REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE AIR CONDITION AND HEATING SYSTEMS. WE'RE RUNNING VERY LOW MONEY THERE.
WE PROPOSED $150,000 INCREASE THERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, HAS, UH, APPROVED A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS THAT WE NEED TO GET IN THE BUDGET.
ONE FOR THE RURAL FIRE SERVICES, THE, UH, A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE FOR EACH
UH, AND YOU GET THAT IN THE BUDGET.
AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S CA EQUIPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, FOR 30,000, UH, WHERE THE SHERIFF WAS GOING, USE SOME, UH, SOME OF HIS FUNDS AND THEN GENERAL FUND WOULD
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USE 30,000.UH, JUROR FEES, OF COURSE, WITH THE ADDITIONAL FEES RUNNING HIGHER THIS YEAR, WE NEED 25,000 SPECIAL COURT REPORTER.
AND THEN IN, IN GENERAL AND IN, IN, UH, CONNECTION WITH THE ADDITIONAL ELECTIONS THAT WE'VE HELD, THE RUNOFFS AND, AND, UH, RUNNING ELECTIONS FOR OTHER ENTITIES, WHICH WE SHOULD GET REIMBURSED FOR.
WE DO NEED EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES AND POSTAGE OF 40,000.
AND THEN THE, THE COUNTY TREASURER AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER SINCE, UH, I GUESS THE NEW LAWS WERE PASSED ON, ON, UH, SUPPLEMENTS TO DISTRICT EMPLOYEES SUCH AS THE DA AND, AND THE, UH, DISTRICT COURT JUDGES TRYING TO GET THEIR AUTO ALLOWANCE CORRECT.
AND I THINK WE FINALLY GOT IT DONE AT THIS POINT.
UH, BUT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR DISTRICT COURT'S AUTO ALLOWANCE IS BY 900 AND DA BY 1067, WHICH THE TOTAL BUDGET AMENDMENT IS $629,867.
PART THE, UH, ON THE, UH, INDIGENT DEFENSE.
AS I RECALL, WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET, WE HAD, UH, PART OF IT AN INDIGENT DEFENSE AND, UH, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDANT.
NOW THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT, WILL THAT, ARE YOU GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING THE MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER TO WE HAVE.
WE HAVE ALREADY LINE ITEM TRANSFERRED THAT PORTION.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP AND ABOVE.
BUT IF YOU RECALL, WE, WE ADDITIONALLY TALKED DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS ABOUT PUTTING IN A MILLION DOLLARS AND MM-HMM
EVENTUALLY WE EVEN REDUCED THAT TO 800,000.
SO WE HAD 400,000 IN EACH AREA.
AND WITH TODAY'S BILLS WE'RE RIGHT AT THAT 800,000.
BUT IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, WE SPENT ABOUT A MILLION, 2 MILLION OF TWO IS WHAT I REMEMBER.
SO WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT THE SAME SO FAR AND, AND, AND A LITTLE LESS THIS MONTH THAN WE DID THIS MONTH A YEAR AGO, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT PUTTING 400,000 JUST LOOKING AT HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN RUNNING, I THINK THROUGH 15 IS
I KNOW IT'S, BUT IT WAS, WE GONNA, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO? WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER SERIOUS WORKSHOP TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS
I MEAN, UH, WE NEED TO STUDY THIS PUBLIC DEFENDER THING MORE CLOSELY OR, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE NEED TO THINK OF IT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
AND, AND I KNOW WE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO AT ALL? I THINK, UH, WORKSHOP ON FIRST THING I KNOW WELL LET AND INVITE EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED.
AS YOU KNOW, AS Y'ALL KNOW, UM, HERE AT LEAST A MONTH AGO, I ASKED FOR A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH WE WERE PAYING EACH INDIVIDUAL ATTORNEY.
AND THERE WAS ONE THAT HAD BEEN PAID $136,000 THIS YEAR.
UH, IF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I, I DON'T INTEND TO VOTE FOR A BUDGET INCREASE UNTIL WE HAVE A, A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UNTIL WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE A FELONY PROSECUTORS GET, YOU KNOW, THAN A HUNDRED OR $50,000 A YEAR.
I, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE JUSTIFICATION FOR PAYING ONE ATTORNEY $136,000.
I THINK THAT WAS A CPS ATTORNEY.
THAT, THAT THAT WAS, THAT'S CORRECT.
HE OFFERED TO WORK FOR, FOR 80,000 A YEAR.
I GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING TO STUDY THIS OTHER THING ON THE, UH, ON THE ELECTIONS, THAT 40,000 IS THAT, THAT'S OUR COST FOR HANDLING THOSE ELECTIONS.
AND, AND THAT'S NOT ALL FOR ELECTIONS.
UH, I MEAN OUR GENERAL OFFICE SUPPLIES AND POSTAGE BUDGETS ARE AUTHORITY OH.
AND, AND THE ELECTION PORTION, WE'RE STILL AWAITING REIMBURSEMENT.
AND I JUST WONDERING, AND WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET AS WELL AS THE REVENUE SIDE.
IF YOU RECALL, LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WORKED ON THE BUDGET, UH, WE HAD THESE IDEAS THAT THESE AREAS THAT WE WERE GOING INCREASE.
AND, UH, THEN WE FOUND OUT JUST EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
AND WE MADE THE DECISION, THE COURT MADE THE DECISION THAT NOBODY GETS ANYTHING EXTRA.
WITHIN THE BUDGET THEY HAD LAST YEAR.
SO WE DIDN'T INCREASE ANYBODY AND WE KEPT IT LIKE IT WAS.
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IN DOING SO, I MEAN EXPENDITURE IS THERE ANYWAY.THAT INT DEFENSE, WE HAD NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
JUDGE, I, I INTEND TO MAKE A MOTION.
WE TAKE IT UNTIL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO WORKSHOP THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
UH, UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, DECLARE THE EMERGENCY AND APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED OTHER THAN THE INDIGENT DEFENSE? WELL, LEMME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING AND REPAIRS AND REPAIRS.
TABLE ID DEFENSE 15 REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY, INCLUDING CONDITION.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN PULL OFF THAT.
AS WELL AS SPECIAL COURT REPORTER OR ANY ELECTION COSTS, SUPPLIES AND POSTAGE OF BEYOND.
WILL THIS INCREASE INCREASE THE TIME OF OUR OBLIGATION TO PAY THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PAY FROM THE TIME WE GET AN INVOICE ON THAT EXPENSE? YEAH.
UH, WE'VE BEEN PAYING ONCE A MONTH AND WITH TODAY'S BILLS WE'RE RIGHT AT BUDGET.
SO GOT A MONTH BEFORE WE GOT 30 DAYS WE TO MAKE IT.
WE GOT ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE WE HAVE TO PAY TO DEFENSE.
MORE THAN WHAT'S ALREADY HERE.
SO THEN WE COULD HAVE A WORKSHOP BETWEEN THAT AND THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PROVE ALL OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE INDIGENT DEFENSE.
I NEED THE FIRST, UM, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, BUT PART OF MY MOTION IS THAT WE, UH, HAVE A WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE TABLED THE PORTION ON DEFENSE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
NEXT WE IS JOHNNY CUTMAN, OUR COUNTY TREASURER REPORT FOR APRIL.
JUDGE, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
I'VE HAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
OPERATING ACCOUNTS OVER LAST TIME HERE.
IS THAT ABOUT NORMAL JOHNNY? DURING THE, UH, CAMPAIGN FOR THE BOND VIEW, I'VE SEEN THERE WAS ARTICLES PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT US GOING OVER HAVING OVERAGES ON OUR, WHEN WE BUILT OUR NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.
UH, ACCORDING OF THIS, WE DID NOT, NOT ONLY DID WE NOT GO OVER, WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE A SITUATION THERE.
WE GOT SOME, SOME DOUBLE BILLINGS.
WE HAD SOME BILLINGS THAT WE ALREADY, IT SENT A LARGE, A VERY LARGE INVOICE WE'D ALREADY PAID ON IT ALONG WAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT, SO THOSE WERE FALSE STATEMENTS THAT WOULD PUT IN THE PAPER ABOUT US HAVING OVERAGES ON OUR WE.
A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT MONTHLY REPORT FOR DONATE.
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SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.JOHNNY, DO YOU WANT ALL THESE SIGNED? THESE THREE I NEED? NO, WE NEED THREE.
JOHNNY JUST GETS ONE BACK, BUT THEN ONE GOES TO LAURA AND ONE GOES TO I THINK HAL AND ALL THAT AT THIS.
NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A MENTAL LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ROSSER.
THE, UH, THE CITY OF ROSSER, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT MET.
UH, ALL I WOULD REQUEST IS THAT TO SAY, PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA AGAIN, THAT WE AUTHORIZE, UH, JUDGE JEN TO, UH, SIGN THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IN THE CITY OF, THEY JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME A MEETING TO SIGN IT AND BRING IT BACK.
IT EXPIRES THIS MONTH AND SO WE JUST NEED A RENEW IT.
WHAT IS THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT DO WANT ON ROADS? THIS IS ROAD MAINTENANCE.
JUST A RENEWAL OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN
MOTION CARRIES JUDGE JENT UHHUH.
NEXT HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER PROVING THE DEPUTATION OF DOUGLAS ADAMS FOR THE TON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO MADE SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLER.
NEXT HAVE DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPRO REQUEST FROM SPRINT TELEPHONE COMPANY TO INSTALL VERY CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
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MOTION CARRIES.NOW THE ONE DO THE SAME THING ON 40 61 MOTION.
40 61 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DELERY.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
NOW THEY WANT A FER CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD 2 77.
UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
JURY, WE HAVE A FILING OF THE DALLAS CROWN REPORT FOR THE WEEK ENDING MAY 13TH, MAY 20TH AND MAY 26TH.
JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE REPORTS.
ACKNOWLEDGE THE FILING OF THOSE REPORTS.
MOTION MADE BY COMM COMMISSIONER.
UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES.
MOVE INTO THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ANYONE IS HERE IS GONNA SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO COME SIGN THE UH, UH, FORM.
SHOULD BE ONE THERE ON THE, UH, PODIUM.
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IT'S LIKE.SINCE I HAVE TWO TEENAGERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GOLF TOURNAMENT, I PUT A PHONE BY EACH OF THEIR PILLOWS.
SO I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FROM OUR, UH, REGULAR MEETING AND TO, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
SO WE WILL MOVE FROM THE REGULAR MEETING TO A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING, UH, PROVISIONS TO THE PELTON COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
JACK, COULD YOU HAND ME THAT SHEET, PLEASE? I HAVE A FEW MINUTES SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UH, I HOPE ALL OF YOU OR EACH OF YOU, WHEN YOU SIGNED UP, SAW THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, UH, THAT SAYS THE SPEAKERS WILL BE RESTRICTED TO THREE MINUTES.
SO WE'LL HOLD THE FEET TO THE FIRE.
UH, FIRST PERSON WE HAVE IS LEE AYERS.
HE WANTS TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE PLAT FIELDS.
WHEN YOU COME UP, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, UH, WHAT POSITION YOU HOLD.
UH, 1627 OAK BEND DRIVE AND, UH, WITH THE KAUFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND, UH, GENTLEMEN, THE MISSION OF MY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TO IMPROVE THE GROWTH AND PROFITABILITY OF OUR AREA BUSINESSES.
BUSINESSES THAT PAY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF, UH, COUNTY PROPERTY TAXES AND WITH THE 1% LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX.
THESE BUSINESSES ALSO FUND A MAJOR PORTION OF ALL OF OUR CITY'S INCOME.
ADDITIONAL ROOFTOPS THAT EVOLVE FROM NEW SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH YOU REGULATE ARE IMPORTANT TO MY MISSION AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES.
NEW RESIDENTS TEND TO FILL UP NEW ROOFTOPS FROM OUR NEW COUNTY SUBDIVISIONS.
THESE NEW RESIDENTS MEAN MORE MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND SPEN THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY.
DALLAS'S COFFMAN COUNTY'S LARGEST JOB GENERATOR.
AND ACCORDING TO THE 2000 CENTS,
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53% OF OUR RESIDENT RESIDENTS STILL COMMUTE TO WORK.AND THAT MEANS THEY'RE BRINGING OUTSIDE DOLLARS INTO OUR COUNTY IN THE FORM OF PAYCHECKS.
AND THESE DOLLARS ARE SPENT ON THINGS LIKE INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR YOUR BUSINESS, MR. FOR BUILDING A LAW PRACTICE, MR. JEN, OR PAYING CLUB DUES TO OUR COUNTRY CLUB, MR. LER.
ANYTHING THAT YOU DO TO DETER GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IS HURTING MY MISSION AND IT'S HURTING YOUR SALES AND IT'S HURTING MANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND I THINK YOUR PLAT REVIEW FEES ARE TOO HIGH NOW.
AND YOU MIGHT CONSIDER REVAMPING THEM DOWNWARD TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH AND NOT DISCOURAGE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS URGE YOU TO CONSIDER A SLIDING SCALE OR CREATE SOME TYPE OF AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, PERHAPS IN THE COUNTY TREASURER'S OFFICE WHERE THE ACTUAL COST OF PLAT REVIEWS CAN BE PAID FOR IN ANY AMOUNTS LEFT OVER CAN BE RETURNED TO THE DEVELOPER.
AND IN CLOSING, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM SEVERAL FOLKS TODAY WHO HAVE MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS OF COMBINED CHAMBER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE WHO ARE GOING TO ASK YOU NOT TO PUT IN PLACE THIS $300 PER LOT PLATINUM PIECE.
AND I URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO IT CAREFULLY.
NEXT WE HAVE IS GORDON PIERCE.
UH, UH, YOU TALKED TO US ON THE SLACK FEES.
I HOPE WE INCLUDE ME IN HUNDRED YEARS.
LIKE I 40, I GOT 40 BY MYSELF.
SO, UH, JUDGE GENERAL MEMBERS, THE COURT I'LL DEBRIEF, HAVE SEVERAL HANDOUTS TO SHOW YOU.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE FACTS AND FIGURES REGARDING THE PAT PLAT FEES AND THE CONTEMPLATIVE INCREASE.
YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS THAT THE ONLY COUNTY THAT WAS REVIEWED WAS ROCK WALL COUNTY, WHICH HAS THE HIGHEST FOR CAP INCOME IN THIS AREA.
ALSO THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LAND TO DEVELOP.
IT'S HARD TO GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON.
AND SO I KNEW THE RIGHT QUESTION.
IT TOOK ME FOR DAYS TO GET THIS INFORMATION, BUT I HAVE GOTTEN, UH, WE'RE MUCH LOWER PER CAPITA INCOME THAN ROCKWALL.
AND WITH INCREASED FEES, YOU'LL DEFINITELY STOP GROWTH IN COFFMAN COUNTY.
I CARE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT, UH, LEE DOES AND THAT SALES TAX WITHIN THE, UH, AREA BECAUSE FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT OF COUNTY DON'T HAVE PLACES TO SHOP AND THEY COME TO TARRELL, KAUFMAN, ET CETERA.
UH, ALSO BEEN TOLD BY SOME MEMBERS, COMMISSIONER OF COURSE, THERE'S VERY LITTLE LAND AFFECTED.
YOU'VE GOT A MAP THERE THAT SHOWS ALL THE LAND THAT'S NOT IN BT J THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY IS AFFECTED BY THIS.
AND I REALIZE, KEN, THE COUNTY'S ONLY PROVIDE MINIMAL FEES TO DEVELOP OR SERVICES AND I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND WHY THE FEES HAVE TO BE SO, SO HIGH.
BEFORE I RUN OUT TIME, I'LL PASS TO YOU.
UH, THE CITY OF TAR PLATING FEES.
FINAL PLAT $200 PLUS $4 A LOT.
UH, PRELIMINARY PLAT IS, UH, LEMME FIND THAT 100 DO $100 FOR PRELIMINARY AND $3 PER LOT.
I'VE GOT COPIES, WHICH I'LL GET DOWN TO IN JUST A SECOND.
I ALSO PERSONALLY SURVEYED THE AREA COUNTIES OTHER THAN ROCKWELL THAT I DON'T KNOW, COMPARE TO COUNTY.
HUNT COUNTY HAS NO CHARGE FOR PLATS.
THE PLATS ARE REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION FOR COMPLIANCE AND SUBMITTED TO COURT FOR APPROVAL ONLY.
THING'S CHARGED IS PLATE FILING FEES.
ELLIS COUNTY SUBDIVISION OF FIVE LOTS OR LESS, $150 SUBDIVISION FEE FOR PRELIMINARY AND FINAL $25 PER LOT.
UH, AND IF THERE ARE DE RESTRICTIONS, IT'S HIGHER.
AND I WOULD THINK ELLIS WOULD COMPARE TO US MUCH BETTER THAN THAN ROCK WALL SUBDIVISION OF SIX TO 20 LOTS.
SUBDIVISION IN EXCESS OF 20 LOTS.
AND THAT MEANS IN EXCESS PERIOD IT CAN BE 500 LOTS, 5,000 LOTS, $635.
PARKER COUNTY SUBDIVISION OF 20 OR MORE LOTS $500.
UH, FIVE TO 19 IS ALSO IS $500.
WE'VE GOT A TY OVER THERE, 500.
BUT AGAIN, EACH COMMISSIONER REVIEWS THE PLA FOR COMPLIANCE IN JOHNSON COUNTY, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO COMPARABLE TO US, IS A $2,000 FLAT FEE IF ROSER PUT INSIDE THE SUBDIVISION AND ONLY A THOUSAND DOLLARS IS SUBDIVISION FRONTS OF COUNTY ROAD.
NOW, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER COURT THAT THE FEE IS IN SOME CASES DESIGNED TO OFFSET THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION WHEN NO CITY PAYS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
JUST LIKE THE COUNTY DOESN'T OF ROAD WITH SUBDIVISIONS.
WE REQUIRE DEVELOPER EITHER INSIDE THE CITY OR OUT TO PROVIDE AN ENGINEER THAT IS APPROVED BY US.
THE DEVELOPER PAY ALL THOSE FEES.
WE DON'T REVIEW THE PLATS OURSELVES.
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A THOUSAND LOT SUBDIVISION.IT COSTS ABOUT $7,000 IN THE CITY.
THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UNLESS, UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER COURT, UH, IS WANTING TO COMPLETELY STOP DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE THE CITY'S ET JS, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO HAVE A FEE OF THIS, THIS MAGNITUDE.
'CAUSE YOU CAN MAKE THE DEVELOPER PAY FOR ANYTHING.
ONE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADS AND, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONSTRUCTED TO COUNTY STANDARDS.
THERE'S A CALL, A PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BOND, AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BE DONE BY CITY STANDARDS.
THAT BOND MAKES SURE IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T BILL TO OUR STANDARDS, THEN IT IS, UH, BUILT TO OUR STANDARDS.
AND WE, THEY, THE BONDING COMPANY REFINISHES THAT, AGAIN, IT'S SUPERVISED BY OUTSIDE ENGINEERS.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY IS FOR RAISING THAT FEE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT RELATIVE TO THE COST OF FILING FEES.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE COUNTY LAW, BUT THE CITIES, YOU NEED TO CHARGE FEES THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT YOUR COSTS ARE IN PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
AND I DON'T THINK $300 A LAW IS NEAR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE COST OF THE COUNTY OF MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
UH, I THINK I PASSED OUT THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE, THERE BE ANY.
UH, AND I DO HAVE ONE FINAL THING THAT, AGAIN, THIS CAME JUST FROM A CASUAL CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER.
WE HAVE A EPJ AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY.
THE COURT SAID THAT COVERS THAT PORTION.
THAT'S IN THE ETJ AS WELL AS THAT PORTION OF THE, OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT GOES OUTSIDE THE ETJ.
THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT SAY THAT.
SO IF WE DO INSIDE THE ETJ WITH ONE RULE, UNLESS WE AMEND THESE AGREEMENTS THAT THE COUNTY SUBMITTED TO US, THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE ETJ WILL ARE PAYING $500 A LOT AND HAVING DIFFERENT RULES.
SO I GUESS SOMETHING WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT OR MAYBE REWRITE AND SUBMIT BACK TO YOU, IF THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE COURT, THAT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY ADJACENT TO THE CITY'S ETJ AND PART OF IT OVERLAPS, THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT ENTIRE SUBDIVISION REMAINS ON THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY.
I THINK THAT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE COURT.
WHEN, WHEN YEAH, I I THINK SO TOO.
AND I REREAD IT AND IT DOES NOT, DOESN'T SAY OUR INTENT AND WE'LL, WE'LL SUBMIT SOMETHING BACK TO THE JUDGE AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE.
JUST BE PROBABLY ONE, ONE SENTENCE SAYING THAT THIS APPLIES TO SUBDIVISIONS THAT, UH, ARE INITIATED INSIDE THE ETJ BUT EXPAND OUTSIDE EJ SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE CITY OF TERRELL DOESN'T DO IT ON AN ESCROW BASIS.
NO BONDS TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT STUFF AS FAR AS ROADS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
NO, I MEAN, I MEAN THE FEES THEMSELVES, WELL THE FEES PAID UP FRONT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE CHARGING 'EM $7,000 VERSUS $300,000, IT'S UH, PRETTY EASY TO DO.
ALL OUR FEES ARE PAID UP FRONT WHEN THEY FILE THE PLA NOW THE CITY OF MATERIAL HAS ITS OWN CITY ENGINEER.
YOU DOESN'T REVIEW THE PLA CONDO THIS MORNING? UH, UH, REVIEW ME.
WHO REVIEWS THE PLA YOU SAID A RICHARD MEYER FROM A CONSULTING FELONY.
DOES THAT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT AN ENGINEER HIRED BY THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF, BUT THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE PAY FOR HIS SALARY AND IT'S VERY MINIMAL TO HAVE HIM REVIEW THOSE PLANS.
IF IT'S A COUNTY PLAT, YOU FILL OUT A ONE ACRE LOT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUARTER ACRE LOTS IN SOME CASES WOULD BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO REVIEW A CITY PLAT.
IT WOULD BE A COUNTY PLAT IN, IN MY LOGIC.
BUT THOSE FEES OFFSET HIS COSTS.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T SPEND ANYTHING TO RICHARD COSTS.
I'M, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
JERRY, IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN, UH, NO, YOU, YOU SAY YOUR FEES, BUT YOU UH, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR FEES THEN? WELL, WE USE A THOUSAND LOT SUBDIVISION, WHICH EVERYBODY WELL I GAVE YOU THERE, BUT LOOK, LOOK AT THE THING I GAVE YOU.
UH, RESIDENTIAL FOR THE INITIAL PLAT $100 FLAT PER LOT OKAY.
SO IF IT'S, I DON'T HAVE A COPY THAT'S SO MUCH STUFF.
I, THE FINAL PLAT IS $200 PER PLA AND FOUR A LOTT.
BASED ON THE THOUSAND LOT SUBDIVISION THAT WE WERE DING ABOUT, WE COST 7,000 SUBDIVISION INSIDE THE CITY VERSUS $300,000 IN THE COUNTY.
WELL, LAURA, DO WE HAVE A, A LOT MORE EXPENSE FROM PBS AND J THAN THIS? THOSE, WE RAN A BUNCH OF FIGURES ON, ON SUBDIVISIONS IN THE COUNTY AND WHAT WE HAD PAID TO OUR ENGINEER AND WHAT WE HAD COLLECTED.
AND UH, WE WERE BEHIND ON A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA STOP ANY GROWTH OBVIOUSLY.
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SIGNED UP HERE.THEY BOTH ASSURED ME THAT THEY'RE THE TWO SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
I DON'T AGREE WITH HOW WANT THAT ON THE RECORD.
SO ANYWAY, JUST, UH, WELL I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I ASK AND IF, IF THOSE FEE FIX THAT AMOUNT OF FEE AND I'M, I I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD ENGINEERING FIRM TO REVIEW A PLAT YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR SOME ENGINEERS.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE ESCROW BUSINESS? HAVE YOU EVER WORKED WITH ANYBODY THAT'S DONE THAT? THERE'S NO REASON TO ESCROW.
IF WE DO A PERFORMANCE IN PAYMENT BOX, WE HAVE ENGINEERS APPROVE THE STANDARDS THAT THE, THE PLANS TO OUR SPECIFICATION.
AND THEY HAVE TO HIRE AN INSPECTOR THAT WE AND THEY AGREED TO TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THOSE
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD NEED TO ESCROW, BUT THAT PERFORMANCE BOND OR ESCROW OR PAYMENT BOND DOESN'T PAY FOR THE FEES OF THE ENGINEER TO GO OUT AND, AND DO WHATEVER WORK.
UM, GORDON, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
UM, UH, OF COURSE, UH, WE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY PROBLEM WITH THE REST OF IT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY ALL THE COMMENTS WE'VE GOT BEEN ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE AND I'M NOT SURE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE REST OF IT, BUT I I'VE NOT SEEN THAT.
UM, I MEAN, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE AND YOU KNOW, WE, IT IS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS SINCE, SINCE WE HIRED PBS AND J TO, TO DO OUR WORK AND THEY'VE CHANGED SOME PERSONNEL AND IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO DO, YOU KNOW, RQS AND FIND OUT IF WE'RE GETTING THE BEST DEAL ANYWAY.
WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE IF WE JUST ADOPT THE, JUST CARRY OVER THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE, UH, DO OUR RQS AND I REVIEW ENGINEERING FIRMS AND, AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT ENGINEERING FIRMS? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK AS LONG AS YOU COVER YOUR COSTS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, AN ENGINEERING COST IS THE ONE THAT'S COSTING THESE THINGS TO GO UP.
YOU DO NEED TO LOOK AGAIN WITH NO DISRESPECT TO THAT FIRM, BUT TO SEE IF THEY BECOME A LITTLE BIT COMPLACENT BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD AN AGREEMENT FOR A LONG TIME AS WE FIND.
AND WE, WE CHANGE PEOPLE EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS BY THE FRONT AND UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GET A COPY OR A COST FROM, UH, OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEER FOR REVIEWING PLANS AND WE REVIEW THE MINOR ONE BIG, WE PAY LESS THAN 10,000 A YEAR FOR ALL PLANTS INSIDE THE CITY AND THEY DO THE, UH, WATER DRAINAGE STUDY THAT, UH, AND DOWNSTREAM AND THE WHOLE BIT.
WELL IT IS A BIG FACTOR EVERYWHERE THAT WITH THE URGE AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T TAKE MY WORD, UH, FOR IT.
I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TROUBLE AS I DO BEING THE RIGHT PERSON IN THESE OTHER COUNTIES.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE AREA OF COUNTY OTHER THAN ROCKWELL ARE CHARGED.
WELL WE DID, WE USED OTHER COUNTIES TO BASE SOME OF OUR FIGURES OFF OF.
AND WHAT OUR, OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM, UH, GORDON WAS THAT, UH, WE WAS GOING IN A HOLE ON FEES.
WHENEVER WE GOT THROUGH ADDING UP EVERYTHING, IT WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
THEN WE, THE TAXPAYERS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY WAS HAVING, DON'T MAKE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
AND THIS IS, WE ELIMINATE, NOBODY WANTS THAT TO OCCUR.
WE DID SOME STUDIES ON SHADOW LAKE, THE ONE THAT WENT IN OUT HERE AND WE TOOK WHAT OUR FEES, WHAT WE CHARGED THEM AND WE TOOK WHAT, UH, WHAT WE PAID PBS AND J AND I THINK THAT ONE CAME OUT, OUR FEES WERE $227 PER LOT AS THE WAY IT ENDED UP IF YOU JUST TOOK THE TOTAL AMOUNT, DIVIDED IT UP.
SO IT DIDN'T SEEM FROM THAT THAT $300 WAS, WAS WAY OUTTA LINE.
BUT UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA RUN OFF ANY BUSINESS, ANY, ANY NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENT OBVIOUSLY.
SO I'M NOT WELL I'M NOT GONNA SAY I DON'T WANT RUN OFF ANY OF THEM.
SO, BUT GOING BACK TO, UH, WHAT MR. SHANE SAID, YOU KNOW, I WOULD URGE YOU TO CHECK WITH THESE OTHER COUNTIES TO SEE IF THEY'RE LOSING MONEY.
'CAUSE YOUR FEE WOULD BE 10 TIMES WHAT ADJACENT COUNTIES OTHER THAN ROCKWALL ARE CHARGING AND ROCKWALL DOESN'T WANT, NOR DO THEY HAVE ANY LAND OUTSIDE THE CITY.
WELL, AND GORDON, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GAMBIT IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ROCKWALL AND HUNT COUNTY.
I MEAN, LAST WEEK I WAS AT A CONFERENCE WITH PEOPLE FROM HUNT COUNTY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMPLAINT WAS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT'S FLOODING HUNT COUNTY AND THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THEIR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IN 25 YEARS.
AND AND THEY MAY NEED LOOK AT RAISING THERE, BUT I BET THEY GO THE $300 LOT.
AND I SAID, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET GOOD DEVELOPMENT UNTIL YOU DO RAISE STANDARDS.
BUT I, I THINK THE KEY TO IT AND AND CITIES HAVE BEEN DOING IT THIS WAY FOR A LONG TIME IS YOU PUT MOST OF THOSE ON THE DEVELOPER, YOU DON'T PAY THE ENGINEERS,
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YOU DON'T PAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT, I CAN MAKE COPIES, YOU CAN CONTACT ELLIS COUNTY, BUT THEY'VE GOT A FIVE PAGE VERY SIMPLE AGREEMENT THAT'S COVERS EVERYTHING ON WHAT HAPPENED.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AS I UNDERSTAND IS THAT WHEN BEFORE THE COUNTY STARTED, UH, PAYING THE ENGINEER AND THEN COLLECTING FROM THE, UH, DEVELOPER IS THAT WHEN WE TRIED TO JUST LET THE ENGINEERING FIRM BUILD A DEVELOPER THAT THE ENGINEERING FIRM DIDN'T ALWAYS GET THEIR MONEY.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY WENT BACK TO THIS SYSTEM.
WHAT WE DO IS WE REQUIRE THEM BEFORE WE FILE THE PLAT TO OFFSET THE COST FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WE DON'T GET, THEY DON'T BUILD ENGINEER, YOU KNOW, THEY SIGN AN AGREEMENT, THEY WILL PAY THE ENGINEER.
IF THEY DON'T GET PAID, THEY DON'T GET A FLAT.
I WOULD THINK OURS WOULD MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO REVIEW THAN A ONE ACRE LOT.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT CURB GUTTER DRAINAGE BOTH UP ABOVE GROUND, UNDERGROUND AND THEN LOT, THERE'S A LOT LESS DRAINAGE TO LOOK AT GENERALLY.
UH, YOU DON'T LOOK AT WATER AND SEWER, BUT YOU DON'T PROVIDE THOSE.
AND WE DO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT DO BECAUSE THE COUNTY REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY MUST, SO OUR CLASS IS MUCH MORE INTENSIVE THAN, THAN A RURAL
SO THAT PUTS THOSE FEES ON THE DEVELOPER.
HE JUST PAYS THE, HIS OWN ENGINEER OR WHOEVER HIS WE DON'T HAVE ANY NO, NO, HE DOESN'T PAY HIS OWN, HE PAYS ENGINEER.
SEE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DON'T GET INTO.
YOU DON'T WANT, YOU DON'T WANT WANT THE FOXING IN HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT LOSS OWNERS, THEY ARE GOING BE DOING TRAFFIC STUDY THEIR COST AND WE HAVE JOINTLY SELECTED THE FIRM WILL DO THAT.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT INSIDE THE CITY.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND AGAIN, THEY ARE DOING THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED AS TO BE REQUIRED TO GET A PLA FILE AT THEIR COST WITH AN ENGINEER THAT MEETS STEVE ROGERS AND THEIR APPROVAL.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DO THAT.
SO WE WERE LIKE THAT BEFORE JUDGE, BUT THIS BUILDING, I THINK Y'ALL MADE THEM PAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A Y'ALL PAID YOUR ENGINEER.
APPARENTLY THE ENGINEER DIDN'T.
UH, BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, ONE QUESTION ON OUR PRELIMINARY PLANS, WE'VE GOT A, A FEE OF $500 PERIOD, FLAT FEE, PRELIMINARY PLAN, YOU'RE GONNA FILE IT, UH, PLUS ANY, ANY ENGINEERING SERVICES AND MIGHT BE REQUIRED.
BUT IF YOU'RE REQUIRING ALL ENGINEERING SERVICE ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHY ARE YOU CHARGING 'EM ON THE FINAL PLAT AT 300 A LOTT? IT'S DIFFERENT PLAT DIFFERENT DIFFERENT CRITERIA, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO DO THE, THE ENGINEERING, RIGHT? YES.
ON THE PRELIMINARY TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
AND IF IT DOESN'T CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY, IF YOU'RE GONNA PROVE THAT FINAL PLAT TRUE.
DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE $500 ON THE PRELIMINARY? NO, BUT I, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, UH, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH YOUR STANDARDS ON THAT PRELIMINARY.
WE DON'T REQUIRE THE DRAIN ON PRELIMINARY.
WE DO THAT ON THE FINAL, YOU A PRELIMINARY CLASS IN THE CITY JUST DRAWING, HERE'S THE LOSS, HERE'S THE STREET WIDTH, HERE'S THIS, HERE'S THAT.
THEN ONCE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS APPROVED, THEN THEY GO TO THE EXPENSE OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS, CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND ALL THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S WHY WE CHARGE A LITTLE MORE FOR THE, UH, FINAL PLAT.
YEAH, WE JUST REQUIRE A PICTURE.
I THINK MOST CITIES DO, JUST SHOWING WHAT THE LOTS ARE, HOW WIDE THE STREETS ARE, WHERE THE EASEMENTS ARE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE AND I'VE NEVER BEEN HERE OTHER THAN ONE TIME TO, UH, AND TO THE DOG.
I THINK, UH, TO DISCUSS ANYTHING, UH, OR BE NEGATIVE TOWARD THE COUNTY.
I THINK WE SUPPORT THE COUNTY.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP YOU.
WE APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WANT US TO AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT WHATEVER LEG WORK INTO IT WE NEED TO DO.
IT TOOK ME A DAY AND A HALF TO GET THESE FLAT FILING FEES BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NO, NO, NO.
UH, DISRESPECT COUNTIES, IT'S JUST LIKE IN THE CITY, BUT YOU KNOW, I CALL NEED TO FIND OUT SOSO THE FILING.
I DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO FILE A PLAT.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO PRESENT TO THE PLAT AND BE REVIEWED AND I GET TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER NUMBER.
I GET THE FILING FEE AGAIN AND ONE, ONE COUNTY TOOK SIX CALLS, BUT I DIDN'T GET WHAT I THINK IT'S RELIABLE INFORMATION.
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THIS PUBLIC CARE IS TO GET Y'ALL'S INPUT.WELL CERTAINLY WE'RE AVAILABLE IF, UH, YOU WANT ANY RESEARCH DONE OR ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE FOLKS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT.
AND WE'LL CIRCLE TRY HELP YOU GET THROUGH THIS.
YOU, HE TOOK, UH, HE TOOK DANNY'S.
NO, THOSE QUESTION MY PRESENTATION LESS THAN THREE
DANNY, WE'LL LET YOU SAY A FEW WORDS TIME'S UP.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, LEE ONLY TALKED TWO MINUTES, SO YOU GOT YEAH, YOU GOT I'M DEAN BOOTH, UH, 7 5 7 4 CAN ROAD 2 7 6 TERRELL, I'M PRESIDENT OF THE TARRELL CHAMBER COMMERCE.
ADMINISTRATOR OF TERRELL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
I'VE BEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAMBER BUSINESS FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AND I KNOW EACH OF YOU ON THE CO COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO CERTAINLY, WE'VE BEEN HERE A LOT AND Y'ALL HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUSLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE LIKE LOTS OF PART OF THE COUNTY, LOTS OF AREAS OF THE COUNTY WORKING ON SEVERAL HUGE SUBDIVISIONS AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FEE STRUCTURE.
UH, IF YOUR CURRENT STRUCTURE IS 200 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS PER LOT, I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY TOO HIGH, UH, CURRENTLY, IF THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS.
BUT THE 300 OR $500 NUMBER YOU KIND OF TOSSED OUT ON ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT, THAT WE'RE REAL CLOSE ON IS A 6,000 LOT SUBDIVISION.
YOU COULD DO MATH REAL QUICKLY, THAT'S $1.8 MILLION TO GET PLAT REVIEWED.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S Y'ALL'S INTENTION TO TURN THIS INTO A PROFIT CENTER FROM COUNTY.
UM, $1.8 MILLION OBVIOUSLY IS NOT REALISTIC AND WE'LL STOP SOME DEVELOPMENT COMPLETELY.
UM, YOU KNOW, COST OF LAND IN COFFMAN COUNTY IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF AND, AND EVERY TIME YOU TACK ON A FEE, YOU'RE TACK ON ANYTHING.
AND THAT ADDS SOME PRICE OF LOT IN SOME AREAS IN ROCK HALL COUNTY, YOU CAN SUPPORT THAT.
I DON'T THINK YET IN COFFMAN COUNTY YOU CAN MAYBE SOME AKINS AREA, BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE REMAINDER OF THE COUNTY.
I THINK GORDON MADE SEVERAL GOOD POINTS, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE THE DEVELOPERS, UM, YOU CHARGE THE COST OF WHAT IT COSTS TO GET THE, THE PLAT AND FILING FEES DONE.
I MEAN, JUST, JUST SET UP THE STRUCTURE WHERE THE DEVELOPERS TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AND THEY PAY IT.
LIKE IN TAR FRONT, THE FILING FEE IS $500 FOR A PLA, THEY PAY THE $500 FEE.
UM, I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO RE-LOOK AT YOUR, YOUR ENGINEERING COMPANY AND, AND LOOK AT YOUR NUMBERS AND, AND SEE WHERE, WHERE YOU NEED TO GO TO CHANGE THAT.
BUT WE JUST ASK YOU TO, TO RECONSIDER A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND, AND LOOK AT AT MAYBE ON A SCALE OF WHAT YOU ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE SERVICES.
AND THAT WOULD BE OUR REQUEST TO, AND I HAVE A LOT OF DETAILED INFORMATION, BUT GORDON'S TAKING TOO MUCH TIME, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER, I THINK HE COVERED ALL THE POINTS AND UH, YOU KNOW, OUR CHAMBER'S MISSION IS THE SAME AS KAUFMAN'S TO HELP WITH GROW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, VITALITY OF OUR MEMBERS AND CITIZENS TERRA.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR US.
I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE SAME QUESTION I ASK ORDER SINCE NOW WE'RE GOING TO TWO STAGE PROCESS IF WE DO THE $500 PRELIMINARY AND THEN, THEN FOR NOW, JUST CARRY ON WITH THE EXISTING FEE SCHEDULE.
WAS FEE SCHEDULE 200 SOMETHING DOLLARS A WALK WAS IT'S 25 A I THOUGHT I HEARD ONE OF Y'ALL SAY $263 A LOT OR SOMETHING.
SO MUCH FOR FOOT OF ROAD PLUS $25 A LOTT.
THINK WHAT JERRY SAID, SAID WAS THE SURVEY THAT HE DID ON THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, OUT DON, UH, THAT'S RIGHT.
RIGHT? THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION, GORDON GAVE OTHER COUNTIES.
I MEAN IT'S JUST EVERYTHING IN THESE OTHER COUNTIES IS, IF IT'S A ONE TO 20 LOT SUBDIVISION, THAT'S ONE FEE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WHOLE PRICE ON THAT LIST HIGHER THAN ABOUT TWO OR $3,000 FOR THE TOTAL PROCESS.
AND I THINK ANY ENGINEERING COMPANY'S GONNA DO YOUR PRELIMINARY PANEL FOR EASILY WITHIN THAT.
I MEAN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO A SPEED SCHEDULE WITH YOUR ENGINEER BASED ON THE LOT SIZE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT IS, AND THEN YOU KNOW EXACTLY IF HE'S GOING TO CHARGE YOU A THOUSAND DOLLARS PLANT REVIEW, THEY PAY THAT UP FRONT.
THAT NEEDS TO BE THE ONLY FEE CHARGE IS WHATEVER YOUR COSTS ARE AND ASSOCIATION WITH DOING THAT, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTER THAT.
WELL I, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE NEW FIGURES COME OUT, BUT THE LAST TIME
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I SAW AN ARTICLE, WE WERE THE 47TH FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.UM, OF COURSE ROCKWALL COUNTY WAS NUMBER ONE, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO ANYWHERE EXCEPT CREEK DOWN THAT LIST.
I MEAN IT WON'T, WON'T BE LONG UNTIL WE LOOK UP AND WE'RE IN THE TOP 10.
THAT'S JUST GROWING IN THE ENTIRE THIS KIND AMAZING IT IS.
I'VE BEEN THERE THROUGH GOOD AND BAD.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THESE DEVELOPERS BUYING LAND, BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING TIME.
OUR MAIN INTEREST IS TO KEEP THE TAXPAYER
JUST MAKE IT A FLAT FEE BASED ON WHAT YOU ENGINEER CHARGE CITY DOES.
BEFORE GORDON WAS FINISHED, I WAS TELLING DANNY THAT, UH, I THINK I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO HIM ALREADY, BUT I JUST WANTED, UH, SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THE THREE OF THE GENTLEMEN HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED AND I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU.
WE'RE CURRENTLY REDOING OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
ALSO JUST AS A COMPARISON THAT MR. GARDNER'S DOING SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY AND, UH, HIS PRELIMINARY PLAT D WAS, UH, $284 AND WE GET LIKE A LOT OF CITIES ADD THE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING IN ON TOP OF THAT.
UH, THAT MAY NOT BE PERFECT FOR Y'ALL.
UH, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU IN MAKING SOME REVISIONS BETWEEN, UH, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND, UH, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
UM, I ECHOING EXACTLY WHAT THESE OTHER GENTLEMEN SAID.
I'M A REALTOR AND FOR 25 YEARS HERE IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND I WISH YOU WOULD CONSIDER, CONSIDER THAT YOU'RE, UH, CONSIDERING AND UH, I KNOW Y'ALL DONE A HARD JOB AHEAD OF YOU, BUT, UH, IF YOU WOULD, UH, CONSIDER THAT KIND OF KEEP IT AFFORDABLE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP MAKING HOUSES AFFORDABLE.
HOW MUCH GARDEN PAY YOU TO COME OVER AND DO THIS.
I THANK ALL THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE.
COVERED EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW, BUT DID YOU PROVIDE US WITH THE COST OF YOUR ENGINEERING STUDIES AND SO FORTH THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND COME UP WITH THAT? OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD POINT.
CHUCK LLOYD, JEAN GARDNER, KAUFMAN, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE 1460 COUNTY ROAD TWO EIGHT.
UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LATEST SPECS AND I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.
MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE.
ARE WE STILL AT 28 FEET SUB BASE? SIX INCH SLIM, OR WE STILL AT 24 FEET, SIX INCH CONCRETE.
UH, DO WE STILL HAVE, UH, THREE EIGHT, UH, STEEL ON 18? THE LAST LITTLE WORKSHOP I'M WENT TO, THAT'S WHERE Y'ALL ARE AT MY UNDERSTANDING.
LAST CHANGE YOUR, I THINK THEY WENT, UM, HERE'S, I THINK THIS IS WHAT FOUR, THIS SECTION? YES.
I DIDN'T KNOW ONE WORKSHOP IN BETWEEN WHEN I
UM, DID YOU GET YOUR ANSWER? YES, SHE ANSWERED IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DEVELOPED IN THE COUNTY A GOOD BIT.
WE DEVELOPED IN KAUFMAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT CAMP, UH, AND WE'VE DEVELOPING THESE SMALL RURAL INCORPORATED CITIES TOO.
A COUPLE OF THINGS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE DON'T WANT,
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YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MIND PAYING OUR WAY.WE DO WANT IT BE FAIR AND REASONABLE.
UH, UH, COVER YOUR COSTS FINE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME ADVANTAGES TO ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT GOES INTO THE COUNTY ALSO THAT, UH, SOMEBODY MIGHT HELP US COVER SOME.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS OF, UH, IT DON'T MATTER TO US IF WE ESCROW, IT DON'T MATTER TO US HOW WE DO IT, BUT I THINK THE, UH, GENTLEMAN TOUCHED BASE ON THE, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM FINDING SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE TO WORK WITH.
WE UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY HAS TO INSPECT, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE IT GOES IN RIGHT.
JUST FIND SOMETHING REASONABLE AND UH, HAVE SOMETHING WE LIVE WITH.
UH, UM, I WANT TO TOUCH ON BASE A LITTLE BIT ON RURAL INCORPORATED CITIES, THE ETJ, THIS AND THAT.
IF WE HAVE FEES PER LOT BASIS OR WHATEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CLARIFIED QUITE IT'S FAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD AND THEY SAY, WELL YOU GOTTA PAY $300 A LOT.
I DON'T GET ANY SERVICES FOR IT.
THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAD FOLLOW UP ON THEIR END OF IT ALSO, IF THEY GO BY COUNTY SPEC AS FAR AS INSPECTION AND THIS AND THAT, AND AIN'T ANY OF 'EM SET UP FOR IT RIGHT NOW? SO I I I, IF I PAY IT, I WANT THE SERVICES FROM IT.
SO WHAT, WHAT SERVICES WE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WELL, WHAT ARE YOU CHARGING? THE CITY.
THE, THE CITY OF COTTON DOESN'T HAVE SOME, IF THEY ADOPT THE COUNTY, THEY DO.
OKAY, SO THE COUNTY REGULATION, OAK GROVE HAS THE COUNTY REGULATIONS.
WHAT SERVICES ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN THE CITY IN THE ETJ? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO CHARGE ME FOR? IF I GO BY THE REGULATION, THEN CHARGE ME FOR THAT 300 BUCKS THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND STATE CLARIFY.
I'M SURE EVERY CITY'S GOT A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT FEE SCHEDULE.
CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THAT $300 IS FOR? I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY YOU'RE CHARGING YOU.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS AND WE PASS THIS ONE AND THEN THEY ADOPT THIS, YES, THEY'RE GONNA BE CHARGING THIS.
IN OTHER WORDS, CLARIFY WHAT EVER YOU CHARGED THIS FOR.
OKAY, LET ME LET, LET'S GO UP TO, UH, SHADY TO YOUR JOB OUT THERE.
WHAT DID YOUR, UH, LINE STABILIZATION, OH, DOESN'T MATTER WHO DID THE INSPECTING? PBS AND JOHN.
THEY CHECKED THE, YEAH, THEY CHECKED THE GRADATION.
DID THEY CHECK THE SLUMP ON THE YEAH.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CLARIFIED.
WELL, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO, DO, FIRST OF ALL, WE LOST MONEY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS ON PBS AND J AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY IS PROBABLY SOME GOOD IDEAS HAVE COME UP.
WE MAY NEED TO REVIEW WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE ARE NOT IN THE, WE WOULD LOVE FOR THIS FEE TO GO AWAY IN BETWEEN YOU AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ENGINEER.
UH, AND, AND WE BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT WE WERE CONCERNED AND THE JUDGE AND EVERYBODY WAS CONCERNED THAT FOX WATCHING THE HIN HOUSE.
THAT'S EXACTLY, AND I LIKE THE IDEA.
I HEARD WHERE IT WOULD BE THE ENGINEER OF OUR APPROVAL IF WE APPROVE THAT ENGINEER.
UH, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY.
WE'RE INTERESTED IN STOP THE BLEEDING AND STOP LOSING MONEY.
I'M MAKING POINT THAT, UH, I I I WASN'T EVEN IMPO THAT YOU'RE MAKING MONEY.
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS ON SHADY MATTERS DOWN THERE THAT AT ONE OF YOUR WORKSHOPS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF I'M IN A ETJ OR SOMEBODY THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE PBS IN JAIL OR WHATEVER IN PLACE, IF THEY CHARGE ME THE FEE, OKAY, WHAT ARE THEY? OKAY, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S BETWEEN THE CITY.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT OUR FEES ARE FOR.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO WELL, I WAS ASKING THAT IT, IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF GROUND IF YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE ME THIS FEE.
THIS IS WHAT SERVICES YOU FOR, RIGHT? WHEN DBS, SO DOES THAT, DO YOU PAY FOR IT? YES.
YOU PAY PBSJ WHAT FOR THE LINE STABILIZATION TEST? I HAD MY, I HAD MY OWN ENGINEER AND PBS AND J ACCEPTED THEIR REPORT.
THIS WAS THE CITY OF POST OAK.
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ON SHADY LAKE.SHADY MEADOWS IS NOT IN THE CITY.
I AM NEXT TO DOROTHY OR NEXT TO UH, MS. ARMSTRONG'S PLACE.
THAT'S SHADY NOSE, RIGHT? YES.
WHEN YOU DID THE, WHEN YOU DID THE ROADS YES SIR.
WHO DID THE TESTING IN THE LAB WORK LIKE PROCTOR'S LINE STABILIZATION, UH, COMPACTION.
WHO DID THOSE TESTS? DID PBS AND J DO THOSE TESTS? YES.
THROUGH Y'ALL'S FEES? I PAID ABOUT 6,800 BUCKS.
BUT YOU DIDN'T PAY DIRECTLY TO PBS AND J OR THE LAB? I PAID IT TO COUNTY.
YOU PAID IT TO THE COUNTY? YES.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE PAYING THESE FEES.
AND WE'VE LOST MONEY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
I TAKE WHAT ROY JEAN SAYING, WHAT IF THAT IS IN THE EPJ OF A CITY AND THE COUNTY'S NOT INVOLVED BUT THE CITY STILL STILL CHARGES HIM 300 BECAUSE THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND THE, BETWEEN HIM AND THE CITY.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE CITY.
I MEAN, IF THEY WANT, WELL, YOU CAN SEE MY CONCERN THEN.
I'M NOT GETTING ANYTHING FOR MY MONEY.
WELL, THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND THE CITY.
IT SHOULD STILL ARGUE WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH GOING BACK LIKE AT WAS, I REALLY THOUGHT IN THE PAST WHERE UH, WE JUST CHARGE A A MINIMUM $500 FOR A PLA AND THEN YOU TAKE CARE OF ALL THE FEES.
HOPEFULLY YOU'LL FIND SOME, YOU KNOW, READ.
THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND, AND UH, THANK YOU.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE THAT'S SIGNED UP.
DID ANYONE COME IN LATE THAT NEXT, UH, TO SPEAK? YES SIR.
SO COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND SIGN IN TONY? I WILL SIR.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE A WRITTEN RECORD OF WHOSE, OKAY.
UH, SO MAYBE I CAN BRING A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON A FEW THINGS, UH, RELATIVE TO WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO.
UM, I END UP, I'VE BEEN, I DO LAND DEVELOPMENT FOR OTHER FIRMS, SOUTHERN DEVELOPERS.
I WORK IN MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I WORK ALL AROUND THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX.
WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT YOUR PROPOSED PLAT REVIEW FEE APPEARS TO BE HIGH COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
WHAT OTHER CITIES CHARGE IS A BASE FEE, USUALLY BASED ON A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF AREA AND A CERTAIN DOLLARS PER LOT.
AND THE DOLLARS PER LOT RANGES FROM ABOUT $10 PER LOT TO ABOUT 30 ON THE HIGH SIDE.
NOW THAT ONLY COVERS YOUR PLAT REVIEW FEES, WHETHER IT'S A PRELIMINARY PLAT OR ANY FINAL PLAT.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO ALL THE OTHER SERVICES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WHETHER IT'S IN REVIEW OF ENGINEERING PLANS, UH, MANY CITIES HAVE A REVIEW FEE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THE CITY TO REVIEW THE ENGINEERING PLANS.
IN ADDITION, WHEN THEY GET INTO CONSTRUCTION, UH, THERE IS A INSPECTION FEE THAT MOST CITIES CHARGE, UH, THE FRISCO KINNEY, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE PROSPER, WHATEVER.
AND THOSE ARE DEVELOP, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT DO THESE CITIES HAVE THEIR OWN ENGINEER? THEY HIRE OUTSIDE.
SOME HAVE THEIR OWN ENGINEERING STAFF.
UH, EXAMPLES WOULD BE FRISCO AND MCKINNEY BECAUSE THEY'RE LARGE DEVELOPING CITIES.
SMALLER ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE DEVELOPING NOW, GETTING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, LIKE YOU'RE BEGINNING TO SEE, LIKE PROSPER SALINA, THEY HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO THEIR, THEIR WORK, AND THEY PAY THAT CONSULTANT BASED UPON WHAT MONIES THEY GET IN.
UM, THE CITIES HANDLE THEIR INSPECTIONS EITHER USING THEIR STAFF, IF THEY HAVE STAFF, OR THEY USE A CONSULTANT TO HANDLE THOSE INSPECTIONS IN THOSE CITIES, THE INSPECTION RATE IS BASED UPON A PERCENTAGE, TWO TO 4% ON THE VALUE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING IN PLACE.
THAT WOULD BE YOUR WATERLINE, SEWER LINES, UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE,
UH, SO MAYBE YOU WANT TO TAKE A LEAD BASED UPON WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED WITHIN THIS DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX TO ADOPT
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FEE SCHEDULES THAT WOULD BE COMMENSURATE WITH YOUR COSTS.AND ALSO BE FAIR TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT I HAPPEN TO WORK FOR, UM, THE DEVELOPERS, THEY END UP PAYING ALSO MONEY FOR BONDS PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BONDS.
SOME CITIES ALSO REQUIRE MAINTENANCE BOND, UH, WHICH PROVIDES AFTER THE CONTRACTOR THEY USE AND MAINTENANCE FOR ANYWHERE FROM ONE YEAR TO TWO YEAR.
UH, IN ADDITION, IF IT'S A VERY SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT HAS SOME UNIQUE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN IT, A LOT OF THE CITY'S INTO FACILITIES AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE COVERED LONG TERM, BOTH FROM THE ASPECT OF OBLIGATIONS OF THE DEVELOPER FEES THAT THE DEVELOPER PAYS.
AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD, A LOT OF TIMES DEVELOPERS PUT IN OFFSITE UTILITIES, OFFSITE ROADWAYS TO GET TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
OVER TIME, THEY GET THAT REIMBURSED THROUGH IMPACT FEES AND THAT PROVIDES THE VEHICLE THAT SETS OUT THOSE UNDERSTANDINGS.
ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT YOU BE FAIR AND REASONABLE.
ALL WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT YOU BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IN THE EJS AREAS THAT ARE BETWEEN YOU AND THE ADJACENT CITIES.
TONY TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE OTHER CITIES DO, BUT THE OTHER COUNTIES,
MOST OF THE COUNTIES LIKE COLLIN COUNTY AND DENTON COUNTY, THEY HAVE ADOPTED FEE SCHEDULES VERY SIMILAR TO THE ADJACENT CITIES IN WHICH ARE IN THERE.
I I WOULD HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, UH, IT'S NUMBER ONE, NOT ONLY I INTEND FOR COFFIN COUNTY TO HAVE THE BEST SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND, AND LEAD, YOU KNOW, AND LEAD RATHER THAN FOLLOW THE OTHER COUNTIES.
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.
UM, UH, BUT THE OTHER THING I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S A FAIR COMPARISON TO COMPARISON US TO CITIES, THE STATE, YOU KNOW, COUNTIES CAN ONLY DO WHAT STATE LEGISLATURES SPECIFICALLY ALLOW US TO DO IT IN SAYING THIS IS THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR CITIES AND THIS IS THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR COUNTIES.
WELL, THERE'S 90 WAYS TO CHRISTMAS CITIES CAN MAKE, CAN, CAN ADD ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT COUNTIES CANNOT IMPACT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE ARGUING THIS ONE LITTLE NARROW AREA THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER WHEN CITIES HAVE THIS HUGE WORLD THAT THEY CAN CONTROL AND WE DON'T.
AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE WE GET TO, UH, MAKE AN A MOTION, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SET OF SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
I'M READY TO PASS IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET HELD UP OVER FEE SCHEDULES.
AND I'D PERSONALLY LIKE TO AMEND IT.
JUST KEEP THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF IT.
JUST PUT OUR FEE SCHEDULE RATHER THAN IN THE BODY OF THE DOCUMENT, PUT IT AS AN APPENDIX AT THE END OF THE DOCUMENT AND WHERE WE CAN PULL THAT PAGE OFF, STICK ANOTHER PAGE ON AND, AND MOVE ON.
I HAVE NO ARGUMENT, NO ISSUE WITH ANYTHING IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE, UH, EVERYBODY, WE NEVER INTENDED TO BE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THIS THING.
WE JUST WANTED TO COVER OUR COSTS AND WHETHER OUR COSTS WOULD PB, S AND J ARE TOO MUCH OR WHATEVER, UH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE WHERE THE DEVELOPER PAY, UH, THOSE FEES DIRECTLY TO THE ENGINEERING FIRM.
IF WE CAN WORK THAT SOME WAY WHERE, UH, THEY GET THE DEVELOPER GET, I MEAN THE, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM TO GET THEIR MONEY AND DOESN'T HOLD US.
LIKE GORDON SAYS, MAYBE, UH, THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T GET HIS FINAL PLAN UNTIL THAT'S PAID OR SOMETHING.
SO I LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT, UH, I'M FINE WITH KEN'S IDEA OF, OF PASSING EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS, TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AND COMING BACK ON THE FEE SCHEDULE.
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO, AS KEN SAID, REVIEW RQ, GET OUR ENGINEER.
IF THAT'S, YEAH, YEAH, WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF JUST LETTING THE DEVELOPER HANDLE THAT ITSELF.
TAKE CARE OF THAT AND HAVING A WELL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DEVELOPER CHOOSING, WELL, WE, WE APPROVED IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE CAN APPROVE THE, UH, THE ENGINEER.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW FAR DO YOU LEFT THE CAMEL STICKER BALL OF THE TOLD.
ANYTHING FURTHER? I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, THERE WAS
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A, THERE WAS AN AMOUNT YOU PAID UNDER THE OVER, YOU PAY IT UNDER THE CURRENT REGULATION PLUS SO MUCH PER LOT AND THE, THE LAST SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WE HAD $300 FOR THE PRELIMINARY FLAT, $25 A LOT, A DOLLAR 50 PER FOOT.THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE MY, MY SUGGESTION THAT WE LEAVE THE $300 PER PRELIMINARY.
PRELIMINARY OR OKAY, WE LEAVE THE $300 PER PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN THE $25 PER LOTT AND A DOLLAR 50 PER FOOT ARE ON THE FINAL PLAT.
THAT'S SAYING IT IS RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS, THERE'S 300 OFF PRELIMINARY PLUS FEES AND 300 AND JUST ADD, JUST MOVE THAT FROM THE BODY TO AN ADDENDUM AT THE END OF THE SUBDIVISION COLLECTIONS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING WITHIN THE BODY OF THIS DOCUMENT ONCE WE'VE DONE, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'LL BE MY MOST.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES AND NO.
UM, JUDGE HAD SAID, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FILING FEES FOR THE FINAL PLEA, DO YOU MAINTAIN A 500 PRELIMINARY AND THREE, YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO 300 TO 300 AND THEN 25 PER LOT AND A DOLLAR 50 PER LINEAR FOOT ON THE FINAL PLAT.
NOW THE FINAL PLAT CURRENTLY HAS 300.
WE MADE IT 500 AND THEN 300 PER LOT.
THE ONE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 325 LOT 50 LINEAR FOOT AND FINAL KEEP THREE PRELIMINARY DO 300 FINAL 25.
I I THINK YOU PUT ALL THE FEES ON THE AL CAN YOU TAKE THAT PARAGRAPH? JUST TAKE THE PARAGRAPH WHAT'S IN THE, THE, THE FEES FOR, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
COUNTY SURVEYOR COLLECT FILING FEES, PRELIMINARY AND FILE OUT OF THE BODY AND PUT IT ON AN ADDENDUM TO THE, UH, SUB SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AS TO WHAT THEY WERE OR WHAT THEY ARE.
RIGHT NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF THE COUNTY SURVEY FEES, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE COUNTY SURVEY, ALL THE OTHER PROPOSED REGULATIONS WERE MADE AS PRESENT.
OH, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S A BIG INCREASE TOO AND NOBODY SPOKE TO THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A 500% INCREASE IN SURVEY FEE.
WELL, IT WENT FROM ZERO TO $10 A LOT.
THERE WAS NO FEE FOR THE SURVEYOR BECAUSE, OKAY.
HAVE YOU GOT THAT BAR ON THE LIST? UM, I HAVE IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE ALL THOSE FEES JUST EXACTLY LIKE THEY'RE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE, I, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ADOPTING NEW SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FEES, WHICH WILL REMAIN AT THE CURRENT AMOUNT AND ADDED.
I'LL, I'LL MAKE MY MOTION WHERE THE SURVEYOR FEE STAYS THE SAME AS IT IS IN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS ALSO, AND THEN WE'LL JUST LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.
THERE ARE NO FEES FOR THE COUNTY SURVEYOR AND THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.
SO THEN ALL WE GOTTA DO IS PULL IT OUT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
YEAH, WE'LL JUST PULL THAT OUT.
WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, MY MOTION WILL BE TO, TO REMOVE THE SURVEYOR FEES AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE DISCUSS ALL THE OTHER FEES.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THESE, WHICH WILL REMAIN THE SAME AT THE CURRENT AMOUNT AND ADDED AS AN ADDENDUM TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO THE SUB REGULATIONS.
BUT NOW HOW DO YOU ADD, WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE SURVEYOR SURVEYOR FEES WE JUST TAKE OUT COMPLETELY FOR RIGHT.
THEY WEREN'T IN THERE BECAUSE THERE ZERO, THEY WEREN'T IN THERE BEFORE, SO WE, THEY WEREN'T IN THERE.
SO WE, BUT THE SURVEYOR WAS GETTING, GETTING SOME, SOMETHING WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LOOP IN THE 2000 REGULATIONS.
WELL THEN WE JUST REMOVE THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT AMOUNTS.
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AN ADDENDUM TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, RIGHT? CORRECT.AND COMMISSIONER LEONARD WILL MAKE THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER ER WITH A SECOND MOTION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS? ALL AYE A AYE.
UH, LET'S GET SOME RIGHT IN OUR HEARING VOTE.
WE CAN ADD IN IN THE INDEX OR THE, WE CAN ADD SOMETHING IN THERE FOR THE YEAH, WE CAN CHANGE OUR, LET'S MAKE IT CLEANER.
THAT JUST GROUPS ALL THE FEES IN ONE SPOT MAKES BETTER.
WE HAVE TWO WEEKS OF LINE ITEMS. PROPOSED INCREASE OF THE BUDGET IN JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR TRANSPORTING PRISONERS.
3000 WITH A REDUCTION OF AUTOPSY EXPENSE.
THE ELECTION EXPENSES INCREASED SALARIES OF JUDGES AND CLERK 23,000 SOCIAL SECURITY, 1500 REDUCTION IN VOTING.
24 5 TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS AREA INCREASE EXTRA HEALTH 3000 WITH REDUCTION IN BOND COSTS.
C CORRECTIONS FUND INCREASED INSURANCE COSTS $100 REDUCTION IN SUPPLIES AND OPERATING DIS EXPENSE.
AND THE DA'S OFFICE INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS.
JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INCREASED PSYCHIATRIC EXAM.
2000 AND MISCELLANEOUS 1000 WITH REDUCTION OF 3000 IN AUTOPSY EXPENSE.
COMPUTER AREA INCREASED REPAIRS.
5,000 REDUCTION IN IN SOFTWARE COSTS.
ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT TWO, INCREASED NEW EQUIPMENT LEASE PURCHASED 40,000 WITH REDUCTION IN ROAD MATERIALS.
30,000 TOOLS OF NEW EQUIPMENT.
15,000 WITH REDUCTION OF MISCELLANEOUS 5,000 PARTS AND REPAIRS.
FIVE PRECINCT FOUR INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS.
15,000 SUPPLIES 5,000 FOR PRODUCTION CONTRACT LABOR OF 20,000.
AND THE TASK FORCE OF DEFENSE INCREASED 86 DISTRICT COSTS $1,130 FOR REDUCTION OF 22ND DISTRICT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE DAS FORFEITURE FUND, WE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES OF 7,000.
5,000 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THOSE SECOND BACK.
MOTION? YOU STILL WANT ME TO LOOK LAURA? NO, NO.
I I YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE WAY THEY WERE.
I I THIS TX TURN ON THE LIGHTS WHEN YOU WRITE.
HEY, THIS WAS MUCH EASIER THAN SERVING ON THE RULES COMMITTEE.
ALL SOME PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSIONS.
IT WAS ACTUALLY THE, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MOST CIVIL RULES COMMITTEE I'VE EVER SAME.
WE HAD ONE MEMBER THAT PRETTY MUCH FILIBUSTER AND THAT ONE YOU RIGHT.
UM, CAN I LOOK AT, CAN I LOOK AT MY, I'M GETTING THERE.
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I DUNNO HOW YOU COULD TELL IT WAS A GOLF SHIRT.I JUST, YOU I'M
WELL, WE GOT, WE GOT ONE FOR SOLID GOLF DONATED ONE.
WE'LL LISTEN, WE'LL LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S PROPOSALS AND, UH, LADY FROM THE STATE BE HERE.
SO AFTER WE HEAR EVERYBODY'S PROPOSAL AND WE CAN LET HER TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CAN, THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL ON THE FRONT END.
DOES THAT MEAN PAY BILL? BILL? YES.
I WANT, I WANT SEND THE BILL TO WATER DISTRICT AND SEE IF WE CAN THEM TO PAY THAT BECAUSE OKAY, WELL I WOULD YOU RATHER JUST TELL 'EM GO COLLECT IT FROM NORTH TEXAS.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ENGINEERING.
HOW YOU GET BACK TO JERRY? YOU KNOW, IT WAS A DEAL WHEN THEY TORE UP THE ROAD AND MADE BEEN REP IT, YOU KNOW, I SENT PS AND J OUT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS,
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WE WOUND ROAD FOUR OF THE ASPHALT.YOU GET A PHONE CALL FROM THIS GUY SELLING STUFF THAT KEEPS YOU FROM GETTING, HE DIDN'T, I BOUGHT A CASE OF IT AND IT IS A LOT.
WHENEVER I GET JIM, I'M GONNA SEND YOU A COUPLE POISON.
POISON AND SO I, AND I'LL I'LL SEND Y'ALL SOME 'EM.
WELL, IT'S IN THE YOU MY BILLS.
HOW CAN I DO ONE OF THOSE EMERGENCY AMENDMENTS LIKE WE JUST DID? ARE YOU GETTING ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK? YES, SIR.
WE'RE GONNA, THE FIREWORKS NEXT WEEK, WE'RE GONNA CERTAINLY TRY TO BAN THOSE THREE CANS THAT WE CAN.
UM, THE FACT THAT WE'RE ON WATER RATIONING, THERE'S, IT HAS NO IMPACT ON IT.
I'VE, THEY DON'T BELIEVE SEVERE WATER, WIND FARM DOESN'T HAVE TO TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT TO DO ON THE WATER.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.
I READ THAT THEY CAN'T IMPOSE.
THAT'S WHAT I HEARNEY HAS, I GUESS.
THEY CAN'T INTO, INTO THE, THERE A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE JUST LIKE A, I I THINK THAT'S A CHECK IT OUT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A OF THE, THE, I TO WE'RE
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A WEEK THE END, ONE LADY THAT WAS GOING AROUND BY HANDED STUFF TO EVERYBODY, SHE RUNNING HOUSTON, HOUSTON CITY COUNCIL.I MEAN I, SO I, YOU KNOW, I WAS TELLING I STILL OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
SO HE DROP HE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
AND HE DOESN'T DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PLAY WELL MYSELF.
IT BURIED IN THAT SAND WHEN I WENT, OH, Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT OVER.
LET ME REMIND Y'ALL THAT A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, I MEAN A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, A WEEK FROM SUNDAY IS THE NORTHEAST TEXAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION.
I THINK, UH, THAT MONDAY OF COURSE THAT THAT SUNDAY WE'LL HAVE OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THEN SUNDAY NIGHT HAS BEEN NO APPRECIATION NIGHT.
UH, THE BAND WE HAVE LINED UP IS THEY PLAY CLASSIC COUNTRY AND 50 ROCK AND ROLL.
UH, SUNDAY, I MEAN MONDAY THEN WE HAVE IN THE MORNING WE HAVE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.
UH, THEY'LL DISCUSS LEGISLATIVE ISSUES DEALING WITH THE COUNTY.
AND THEN AT ONE OR ONE 30, I'M TRYING TO GET A CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION TOGETHER FOR ALL CONGRESSMEN IN THIS AREA, CONGRESSWOMAN IN THIS AREA, UH, TO BE THERE TO DISCUSS, UH, ANY TOPIC.
BUT MAINLY I HAD TO HAVE A TOPIC.
UH, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU THROWN NEW IMMIGRATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONVERSATION WILL COME, BUT, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON, WELL, THE TEXAS DELEGATION IS OKAY, SURE.
UH, AND THEN TUESDAY I HAVE NO EQUIPMENT.
THEN TUESDAY, UH, TUESDAY NIGHT, I MEAN MONDAY NIGHT THE HOST COURT NIGHT'S GOING BE AT PIZZA HUT PARKS THE NEW, UH, SOCCER FIELD.
WHEN WE GET TO WATCH A GAME OR WE JUST GO OUT THERE, I THINK IT'S JUST GO OUT THERE.
TUESDAY MORNING BREAKFAST, TUESDAY AFTERNOON,
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75, THE PRESIDENT'S RECEPTION.AND PRESIDENT
SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROB, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LER.
ALL IN COURTESY, YOU PAY THE BILL.
MOTION CHANGE SAYS WE HAVE ENOUGH THIS MORNING.
AND MR. SECONDS IT ALL IN YE DON'T SAY THAT IN FRONT OF THE PRESS.