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WHAT? THE DATE? WHAT'S THE DATE THAT JUNE, WELL, 2006 93.
I JUST WENT AHEAD AND TURNED IT ON.
HE WAS IN INTENSIVE CARE FRIDAY AND HE WENT HOME ON SATURDAY.
WELL, HE LOST TWO THIRD OF HIS, I GUESS THEY TOLD YOU.
I THINK IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A CREMATION.
JUST, FATHER, THANK YOU FOR LOVING US AND GIVING US THE PLACE ABOVE ALL YOUR CREATION.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
FATHER, WE, WE KNOW THAT IT'S A BLESSING, THAT IT'S A CULMINATION OF, OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO IT THROUGHOUT HISTORY.
AND FATHER, WE, WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL.
AND FATHER, HELP FOR US TO ALWAYS KEEP THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT IN MIND.
JUDGE, WE SURE STAND REPUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? MOTION MADE BACK, MR. SHANE.
SECOND BACK TO MR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE, UM, BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST WEEK, A WORKSHOP OFFICIAL NOTICE.
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DON'T YOU GIVE JACK A COPY.NEXT THING ON THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, WE STILL NEED THE MAPS FOR PRECINCT TWO AND THREE.
NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS FIRE MARSHAL.
WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT, YOU, IT, THE MOTION.
I APOLOGIZE, AND I'M NOT GONNA, I'VE HAD THOSE.
FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IS, UH, RESTRICTING THE AERIAL FIREWORK FOR THE 4TH OF JULY.
UH, NOTHING WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST, BUT AS YOU'RE AWARE OF THE DROUGHT INDEX LEVELS, UM, THEY'RE, UH, UP IN THE 500 RANGE ALREADY.
THE PROJECTION FOR THE 4TH OF JULY WOULD BE IN THE SIX TO 700 RANGE, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE HIGHEST ARRAY.
IS, UH, IF YOU GO BY THAT IS ONLY EACH BARN DROUGHT INDEX.
YOU GO BY THE PALMER DROUGHT INDEX.
IT SHOWS US TO BE IN A SEVERE DROUGHT, WHICH IS ALSO THE NEXT HIGHEST LEVEL.
SO BASED ON THOSE PREDICTIONS, AS WELL AS WE'RE ALREADY 500 AND WELL, IN SOME PLACES IN OUR COUNTY, WE'RE 5 59 THIS MORNING, I REQUEST THAT WE AT LEAST GO AHEAD AND BAN THE RESTRICTED FIREWORKS, WHICH WOULD BE THOSE THAT WERE CLASSIFIED AS SKYROCKETS WITH STICKS AND MISSILES WITH FIS, WHICH ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT THEY BAN AT THIS TIME.
SO I'LL REQUEST THAT AND PUT INTO A, THE, UH, FIREWORKS FOLKS HAVE ALREADY, MOST OF THEM HAVE CONTACTED ME, THE MAIN DISTRIBUTOR, NICHOLSON'S OVER IN WARSAW'S, NOT SELLING ANY, ANY WAY AT THIS TIME UNTIL HE HEARS FROM ME.
BUT HE'S ALWAYS REAL COOPERATIVE WITH US.
THAT'S THE FIRST REQUEST I ENTERTAIN.
MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
NOW LET'S DISCUSS THE COUNTYWIDE BURN BAND.
ONCE AGAIN, SAME CRITERIA, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ABOUT 10 POINTS AWAY FROM WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST HARRIS COUNTY AND NUMEROUS OTHER COUNTIES THAT SURROUND THOSE DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
I KNOW I'VE TOLD Y'ALL IN THE PAST THAT THAT WAS JUST A MAGIC NUMBER THAT I FINALLY GOT DEPART SERVICE, STELLA, AND THAT WAS 575.
WE OBVIOUSLY ARE PROJECTED TO BE WELL ABOVE THAT BY THE 4TH OF JULY, AND WE'RE ONLY 10 POINTS AWAY FROM IT RIGHT NOW.
OTHER COUNTIES LIKE HARRIS COUNTY, FOR INSTANCE, USES 500 AS A MAGIC NUMBER.
IT'S KIND OF ALL UP TO US, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALREADY BY TOMORROW, WE'LL BE AT THAT NUMBER.
AND SINCE WE'RE ALREADY ENACTING RESTRICTIONS ON FIREWORKS, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE BURN BAND INTO EFFECT TOO.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
YOU'RE PROPOSING, UH, US SETTING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE JOB DESCRIPTION? YES, SIR.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS DEPARTMENT'S NEVER HAD IN THE PAST.
IF YOU, IF YOU GENTLEMEN REMEMBER RECEIVING ONE OF THESE A FEW WEEKS AGO, PLEASE MAKE NOTE.
IT'S BEEN CHANGED DOWN ON THE PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE REQUIRING THE SAME THING AND THAT OSHA DOES, AND THAT'S A 60 POUNDS ON LIFTING.
EVERYTHING ELSE ON THERE ARE JUST THE NORMAL THAT YOU SHOULDA HAVE TO DO THIS POSITION AND JUST EVERYTHING NORMAL ABOUT IT.
AS FAR AS BACKGROUND, INVESTIGATIONS, THE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS AND ABILITIES AND THE WORKING CONDITIONS, IT JUST PRETTY MUCH CUT AND DRY OF THE SAME THING.
THAT WOULD BE FOR ANY TYPE POSITION OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD AND BLACK AND WHITE, THAT ENABLES US TO BUILD, AT LEAST IN THE FUTURE, ON ANYONE THAT EITHER GETS THIS POSITION OR PART-TIME POSITION OR ANYTHING WITH US, THAT THEY WOULD, UH, HAVE SOME SORT OF CREDENTIALS THAT IMMEDIATELY WOULD MAKE US MORE ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE IN OUR JOB.
SO I JUST BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TO, TO GET INTO BETTER.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO DELINEATE IT OUT SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE YOU'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER DELLER WILL SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR.
DO A DO I SEE A REQUEST DURING BUDGETING FOR, UH, TWO FULL TIME PEOPLE? THIS, THIS IS A GOOD START.
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THANK YOU, LARRY.UH, NEXT WE HAVE KATHY PAGET, UH, TO DISCUSS ANYTHING.
INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE ELMO WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO INSTALL COFF COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, MO DATA SYSTEM EQUIPMENT ON THE ELMO WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION WATER TIRE.
IT'S THE SAME PROJECT THAT I'VE SUBMITTED BEFORE, AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE CONTINUING WATER TOWERS THAT WE'RE GETTING SLOWLY GETTING THE REST OF THEM TRICKLE IN.
UH, AS, AS Y'ALL KNOW, KATHY IS ALSO, UH, NOT ONLY THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR, MERCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS COORDINATOR, SHE'S ALSO OUR SAFETY COORDINATOR.
AND, UH, UH, WE RECENTLY, UH, AT THE, UH, TECH ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY'S ANNUAL MEETING IN AUSTIN, UH, WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF, UH, BEING AWARDED THE, A COUNTY SAFETY AWARD, SAYS COUNTY SAFETY AWARD, PRESENTED TO KAUFMAN COUNTY IN ITS RECOGNITION OF ITS ONGOING RECORD OF SAFETY IN THE WORKPLACE 2005 TECH ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY'S WORKERS' COMPENSATION SELF-INSURING FUND.
AND, UH, OF COURSE THAT'S SIGNED BY THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE.
KATHY, COULD YOU COME UP AND LET ME, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT, THAT DESERVES THIS AWARD.
NOW WE WANT TO PRESENT IT TO YOU.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU PUT IN ON IT NOW.
SO WHEN SHE CALLS Y'ALL'S DEPARTMENTS AND SAYS, HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE A SAFETY, UH, DEAL.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING FOR.
THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US YET HOW YET YOU GOT WORK, HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA SAVE WHEN WORKERS' COMP THIS NEXT YEAR.
'CAUSE USUALLY WHEN WE GET AN AWARD LIKE THAT, WE ALSO GET A REDUCTION IN OUR COMP RATE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S SHOOTING FOR.
AND KATHY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
A COMPREHENSION, DIRECTLY TIED EVERY, ESPECIALLY THE PRECINCTS.
I, I HAVE TO COMMEND Y'ALL BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB KEEPING UP WITH THE INSPECTIONS AND DOING SAFETY TRAINING.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS TOO.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP UP THE TRAINING.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MARILYN MAY, DID I SEE RUN COUNTY ACT, OUR COLTON COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP.
UH, THE OTHER DAY WHEN, UH, UH, WE AUTHORIZED, UH, HER TO APPLY FOR SEVERAL GRANTS, THERE WAS ONE LEFT OFF AND THAT WAS JUST, UH, OVERSIGHT.
I DUNNO WHY IT WAS LEFT OFF, BUT, UH, THERE IS, UH, POSSIBLY SOME MONEY OUT THERE FOR GRANT, FOR TIRE RECYCLING AND A CLEANUP PROJECT.
UH, AND SO MARILYN'S BACK TODAY TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST US TO ALLOW HER TO MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR THAT GRANT.
RIGHT? WE HAVE ONE LOCATION ON, UH, COUNTY ROAD 1 21 THAT REALLY NEEDS SOME, SOME WORK.
SO THAT'S THE MAIN PROJECT RIGHT NOW IS TO, TO USE THAT FUNDING.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD, UM, IT'S VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY.
SO I, I FEEL AS THOUGH WE REALLY NEED TO TRY SO WE CAN GET THAT PARTICULAR PLACE CLEANED UP.
IT'S, UH, QUITE A QUITE A SIGN TO SEE.
I'VE FORGOTTEN MINE THIS MORNING.
THIS IS ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.
IT GOT, IT WAS DUMPED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY ESTIMATED ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO 7,000 TIRES, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT KIND OF HAPPENED ONE WEEKEND WHEN THEY WERE GONE.
THEY WERE ON VACATION, CAME BACK, AND THERE THEY WERE.
CAN YOU SEE THAT? SHE CALLED ONE DAY RIGHT BEFORE A CLEANUP AND SAID, WANT, I BRING A TRAILER LOAD OF TIRES? AND I, I SAID, HOW MANY DO YOU THINK WILL BE ON THERE? AND SHE SAID, OH, ABOUT 120.
I SAID, OH, THAT'S A LOT OF TIRES.
AND SHE SAID, NO, THAT'S NOT ALL OF 'EM.
SO I ESTIMATED THEN THAT IF IN 50 YEARS IF SHE BROUGHT 120 TO EVERY CLEANUP, IT WOULD ALL GET DONE.
BUT ANYWAY, AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER BID THAT MARILYN TELL, RIGHT.
SO, SO, UM, THAT'S MY MAIN REQUEST IS THAT I AM, YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR, UH, FOR THIS GRANT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL GET IT, BUT IT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY
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FRIDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.UH, JIM, SECONDS IT AND NOW DISCUSSION.
WELL, I, I'VE SEEN A PLACE THAT'S ALMOST THAT BAD IN COMMISSIONER SHANE'S PRECINCT IN WHAT YOU, WHAT'S CALLED TANIKA VILLAGE, WHERE THEY'RE NOT STACKED UP LIKE THAT.
UM, AND, UH, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST LOADED UP IN A POND ON, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, IF WE'RE GONNA APPLY FOR A GRANT, WE CAN DO FOR BOTH.
BUT I WOULD, CAN WE DO THAT ALSO, REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY GET OUT THERE AND GIVE ME A, A BID REAL QUICK BECAUSE I HAVE TO KNOW PRETTY MUCH HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA COST.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYBODY'S GONNA GET IN A POND AND PULL THEM OUTTA THE POND.
WELL, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO GET IT OUT, OUT OF THE POND.
SO IT WOULD, YEAH,
KENNETH, IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THAT, YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME TODAY BECAUSE WE, WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE THAT OUT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS MONEY IS FOR.
AND THERE IS, I MEAN, WE CAN GO, WE CAN CLEAN UP TWO JUST AS EASILY AS ONE.
I JUST KNEW ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
WELL, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THE SHERIFF SINCE A DEPUTY AND SOME TRUSTEES OUT, AND WE'VE ALREADY CLEANED UP ONE ROAD THAT I HAD OUTTA FAMILY.
SHE HAS TO HAVE THIS GRANT IN BY FRIDAY.
THE BIGGEST THING IS GETTING TWO BIDS BY THEN.
IF YOU STOP BY MY OFFICE OR I WAS TALKING TO MARILYN, SHE'S GOT TWO BIDS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BID ON THIS.
AND YOU MIGHT GET THEM OUT TO GET YOU A BIG YEAH, WE'LL TALK THIS AFTERNOON AND GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT.
MR. LER WOULD LIKE TO BID ON IT.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIRES ON ANY OF OUR, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK DURING CLEANUP WE HAVE A LIMIT HOW MANY TIRES YOU CAN DROP OFF.
WE, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT DID WE DO? WE HAD A VARIANCE ON THAT IN OUR PRECINCT.
TOMORROW WE'RE HAVING A PROGRAM AT THE COMPMAN COUNTY ZERO PARTY FOR 50 YMCA KIDS.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY YMCA AND THEN ON THURSDAY, EVERYONE IS INVITED AT 10 O'CLOCK FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING AT, UM, THE NEW CAMP CONVENIENCE STATION OVER, BRO.
NEXT WE HAVE HOW JONES DO BRING US THE AUTHORS REPORT FOR MAY.
ALRIGHT, GENTLEMAN ON MY, THIS, THIS NEXT WEEK.
Y'ALL WANT COME BY AND LOOK AT IT.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW TO ACCEPT THAT MOTION.
NEXT IS, UH, RICHARD MURPHY TO BRING US, UH, THE TON COUNTY TAX ACCESSORY REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF MAY.
THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY, WE HAVE COLLECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND 19.9 MILLION, WHICH IS 93% OF THE ADJUSTED TAX LEVY VOTE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.
WE COLLECTED 2.7 MILLION, WHICH IS 93% OF THE ADJUSTED TAX ROLL.
WE'VE ALSO COLLECTED 38% AND 31% RESPECTIVELY OF THE DELINQUENT ROLL, WHICH IS ALMOST 600,000 OF THE GENERAL AND 76,000 OF THE, UH, BRIDGE.
WE HAVE, UH, PENALTIES AND, AND SO ANY OR COMMENTS ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT COURT? I MAY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DELLER.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION OF, UH, RENEWING OUR MEMBERSHIP VIEWS IN THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TELLER.
JOHNNY, ARE YOU STILL IN HERE? YES.
UH, HOW ARE WE DOING ON OUR PRESCRIPTION CARDS CONTRACT WITH YOU.
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ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO.UH, PAGE WAS GONE AT THAT GATE TO CASSIE.
IT'S ABOUT A 22 PAGE CONTRACT.
I'VE ALREADY READ IT, GONE THROUGH IT.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU SIGN.
THAT'S WHERE STANDS WE'LL PULL IT OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
UH, WE HAVE A DALLAS CROWN REPORT THAT WAS FILED FOR THE WEEK OF JUNE 3RD.
WE SKIPPED ONE, BUT I, AND I NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WE HAD TO MAKE A MISTAKE BECAUSE WE HAD WRONG PRECINCT.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, AND I NEED TO MAKE SURE AND TALK TO 'EM BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ROADS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR THOROUGHFARE PLANT ARE PRETTY MAJOR ROADS.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE A LOT WIDER IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND, UH, WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT ALLOWING MAJOR UTILITIES AND THE RIGHT OF WAY IF THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO BE MOVED FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I'LL, I'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT BEFORE AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PUT BACK, PLEASE DON'T PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA UNTIL I TO OKAY.
WELL, WE, THE TABLE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO TABLE THE APPROVAL OF THE FIRM ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE ALL IN FAIR SIDE MOTION.
CARRIE? OH, WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT.
UH, JOHNNY, YOU'RE UP NEXT WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT.
UH, AND THE REASON WE, UM, HAD IT IN THE WRONG PRECINCT.
UH, BECAUSE WHEN THOSE COME IN, THEY JUST COME IN AND, AND IT'S REQUESTED FROM THE, UH, UTILITY ITSELF.
AND THEY DON'T FILL OUT A FORM LIKE I'M REQUIRED TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
SO FROM NOW ON, Y'ALL MAY GET SOME COMPLAINTS, BUT NOW WHETHER IT'S SPRINT AT T OR, UH, SOUTHERN MAIL OR WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE, WE'RE SENDING WHEN THEY REQUEST IT, AND WE'RE SENT ON THE FORM TO FILL OUT, TO LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AND LET, AND THAT WAY THEY'LL, WE'LL KNOW WHAT, WHERE THE REQUEST ACTUALLY IS.
MOST OF YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY CONTACT YOU.
BUT THE REASON THIS HAS COME UP AGAIN, IS BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE MADE THE WRONG GUESS ON THE PRECINCT ON THAT.
UH, BUT ONE UTILITY COMPANY, UH, SAID THEY'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT
AND, UH, THEY DON'T NEED COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVAL TO BURY A TELEPHONE CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD.
YOU DO IT WITHOUT PERMISSION,
SO, UH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD RULE TO HAVE EVERYBODY WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, FILL OUT FARM, AND UH, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S THE SAME COMPANY THAT SENDS US A BILL EVERY TIME ONE OF THEIR CABLES GET CUT.
IT'S, SO ANYWAY, I JUST KIND OF WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT LITTLE CHANGE IN OUR POLICY ON, ON THE UTILITIES AND JOHNNY, YOU PRESENTED YOUR REPORT TO US FOR, I JUST LET SAY JUDGE QUESTIONS, UH, MUST OF MAY.
I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT ON THE THREE YEAR WRITING TOTAL OF FIVE MONTH.
MAKE ME FEEL SO, AND TO REITERATE, REITERATE SOMETHING THAT WAS POINTED OUT IN OUR, UH, WORKSHOP THE OTHER DAY.
WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE MONEY LEFT IN OUR JAIL CONSTRUCTION FUND.
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DID NOT GO BUDGET IN OUR JAIL CONSTRUCTION.WE JUST HAD BE A LARGE INVOICE COMING AT $189,000.
WELL, WHAT WAS THE BILL FOR? IT WAS PAID ON.
JUST, UH, I WAS JUST MAKING SURE IT WASN'T MORE THE ARCHITECT.
IT'S STUDY THAT GUYS, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THIS LATER, LATER TIME.
BUT AS FAR AS TODAY, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALL IN COUNTY MOTION.
WE HAVE, UM, UH, EARL CARTER, MAYOR OF
OH, WE DIDN'T, UH, WAITING WITH BREATH ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER REV MAKES THE MOTION THAT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE REPORT HAS BEEN FILED.
COMMISSIONER SHANE SECONDS IT ALL IN MOTION CARRIES ALL REAL.
MAYOR CARTER, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
WE, UH, WHEN IT'S NOT ON THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES.
SUM EVERYTHING UP SINCE I'VE DISCUSSED.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD OFFICIALLY, THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN ARE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE IN THIS AREA OF TEXAS TO BUILD THE TRANSEX HIGHWAY.
BUT WHEN YOU LEAVE HOUSTON OR SAN ANTONIO OR THE VALLEY GOING TO THE NORTHEAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO GO.
WE'VE GOT I 20, WE'VE GOT OLD HIGHWAY 80, WE'VE GOT A RAILROAD TRACK.
WE'VE GOT I 30 20 GOES TO THE EAST COAST, 30 GOES TO LITTLE ROCK, IT HOOKS UP INTERSTATE 40 TO THE EAST COAST, GO NORTH OUT OF MEMPHIS ON 55 TO THE GREAT LAKES.
YOU CAN ALSO CROSS HIGHWAY 70 GOING TO THE EAST COAST.
WHEN YOU GET TO CHICAGO, YOU GOT, UH, INTERSTATE NAME.
AND HAVING BEEN IN THE TRUCKING BUSINESS FOR 40 YEARS, I KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR TRANSPORTATION TO MOVE AND MOVE EFFICIENTLY.
DALLAS IS ALREADY GRIPING BECAUSE OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
THEY'VE GOT IT WHERE THE TRUCKS CAN'T RUN IN THE LEFT LANE BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRAFFIC, WHICH IS GOOD.
CALIFORNIA'S HAD THIS FOR 25 YEARS MORE.
BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO BE ON RECORD AS TELLING THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN THAT THERE IS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE OR BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAN GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE MID CITIES AREA WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE PRICE OF REAL ESTATE OVER THAT BILL.
SO THAT'S JUST, I WANTED TO BE ON THE RECORD OFFICIALLY TO TELL THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.
MAYOR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, COMMISSIONER SHANE AND I WENT TO YOU GAVE US AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW OF KNOW AS THE, THE PORT OF DALLAS.
UM, IT'S IN, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS IN THE, YOU KNOW, LANCASTER AREA OF SOUTH, UH, SOUTHEAST DALLAS COUNTY IS TO, UH, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S AN, IT IS AN AMBITIOUS PLAN AND IF YOU WORK BACKWARDS, IT'S TO, UH, SET UP, UM, WHERE RAILROADS COME, YOU KNOW, RAILROAD CARS COME IN, LOAD TRUCKS OR SEND IT FURTHER OUT ON THE RAILROAD ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, BACK UP.
IT'S GONNA BE COMING INTO THE PORT OF HOUSTON AND THEN BY RAIL UP TO DALLAS AND THERE, HENCE THE PORT OF DALLAS.
SO, UH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE SHIPPING.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A PRETTY AMBITIOUS PLAN TO WIDEN THE PANAMA
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CANAL AND GET BIGGER, BIGGER SHIPS, BIGGER BARGES THROUGH THE PANAMA CANAL.UH, AND IT'S SHIPPING THAT'S GONNA BE COMING FROM, UH, PRIMARILY FROM CHINA, BUT FROM THE EAST.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS ENLIGHTENING TO HEAR SOME OF THE STATISTICS.
UH, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT CHINA AS A TRADING PARTNER, NOW THAT THEIR MARKETS ARE OPENING UP, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MIDDLE AND UPPER CLASS, AT THE SHEER NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, THERE'S MORE OF 'EM IN CHINA THAN THERE ARE HERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, COMPARABLE, COMPARABLE INCOME JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE.
SO THERE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE THINK OF CHINA AS, AS AN EMERGING, UH, COUNTRY, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A HUGE UPPER AND MIDDLE CLASS, UH, CATEGORY OF CONSUMERS THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WAYS TO TRADE WITH.
AND, UM, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT TIES TO THE TRANSEX CORRIDOR.
AND I THINK IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DALLAS IS THINKING ABOUT.
I THINK IT ASSUMES THAT THAT TRANSEX CORRIDOR IS, IS GOING TO, IS EITHER GONNA GO THROUGH KAMAN COUNTY OR THEY'RE PROPOSING IT GO UP 360, BUT THAT THE RAIL PORTION WILL GO STRAIGHT TO, UH, UH, STRAIGHT TO THAT, UH, PORT OF DALLAS AREA.
BUT IT IS A, THERE, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME BIG LONG RANGE PLANS BEING, BEING LAID OUT.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY NEAT.
WE, WE MADE FRIENDS WITH PANAMANIANS AND
LA HAS GOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST PORTS FOR CONTAINERIZED FREIGHT IN THE COUNTRY, IN THE WORLD.
AND THAT IS LOADED ON THE WELL, AND COME THIS WAY, AUTOMOBILES WERE DROPPED IN THE WEST COAST AND HAUL TO MIDDLE AND DISPERSED FROM THERE BY CAR HALL WAS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
SO WHY BRING IT IN TO THE DALLAS AND LANCASTER? I FLOW IN OUT OF THAT LITTLE AIRPORT OVER THERE, AND IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN TO HANDLE WHAT THIS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO INCUR.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I SAY KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS GOT THE BEST LOCATION CALLED WIDE OPEN AREA FARMLAND THAT THE FARMERS SAY THEY'RE NOT MAKING MONEY ANYWAY.
SO THEY'D PROBABLY APPRECIATE A GOOD PRICE FOR THEIR PROPERTY WHERE THEY COULD RETIRE AND WATCH THE GROWTH COME IN HERE.
BUT
HOW HAVE YOU LIVED IN THIS AREA? SINCE 1953.
BECAUSE QUITE A CONTRAST HERE.
SEE, YOU SAID LANCASTER, COMMISSIONER LEONARD SAID LANCASTER.
SEE THE NATIVES IN LANCASTER, CALL IT LANCASTER.
AND, UH, SO I JUST, WELL, I PLEAD GUILTY TO BEING SOUTH TEXAS.
I, UH, UH, HAD A, HAD BUSINESS UP IN, UH, A PLACE IN CALIFORNIA ONE TIME UP BY TRAVIS AIR FORCE BASE.
SO I FLEW INTO LOS ANGELES AND, UH, UH, AS I WAS, AND I HAD RENTED A CAR AND I WAS, I WAS RIDING A SHUTTLE BUS FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE REDCAR PLACE.
AND SO I SAT DOWN AND UH, UH, I ASKED THE DRIVER WHERE LANCASTER WAS, UH, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET THE LANCASTER? AND BECAUSE I HUNTED WITH THE GUY WHO WAS A NATIVE OF LANCASTER, AND, AND HE, HE WOULD GET RED IN THE FACE IF SOMEONE AROUND HIM CALLED A LANCASTER.
ANYWAY, SO I'M, AND THE GUY SAID, LANCASTER, HE SAID, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT.
I SAID, HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN THIS AREA? HE SAID, MY WHOLE LIFE.
AND I SAID, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE A CAB DRIVER AND YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF LANCASTER, CALIFORNIA.
I SAID, WELL, IT'S UP THERE BY TRAVIS AIR FORCE BASE.
AND HE SAID, OH, YOU MEAN LANCASTER
BUT IN, IN ADDITION TO, UH, HAVING BEEN IN THE TRUCKING BUSINESS BEFORE 40 YEARS, IN FACT, MY DADDY WAS IN THE TRUCKING BUSINESS, SO DONE AROUND ALL MY LIFE, BUT I KNEW ACCIDENT, RECONSTRUCTION AND EXPERT WITNESSING.
AND WE'VE TESTIFIED AND NEVER STAYED THE UNION EXCEPT IDAHO.
AND THAT INCLUDES HAWAII AND ALASKA.
BUT I GUESS THE PEOPLE IN IDAHO, UH, ARE REAL SAFE DRIVERS SOMETHING.
BUT ANYWAY, BETWEEN TRUCKING AND ACCIDENTS, THIS IS THE WAY TO GO RIGHT HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ISSUED, WE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS ISSUED A RESOLUTION TO THEM SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO COME THROUGH THIS WAY.
MAY WE NEED TO TAKE A FURTHER YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO GO DOWN THERE AND POINT OUT OUR AVAILABLE TRAFFIC LANES TO MOVE FREIGHT FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE NORTHEAST AND EAST COAST, BECAUSE WE'RE BEST SITUATED TO DO THAT.
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HIGHWAY WISE, RAILROAD WISE, YOU KNOW, UH, 45 YEARS AGO WHEN I, MY DEGREE, MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE IS IN INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AS A MOVEMENT OF GOODS AND PEOPLE.OF COURSE, UH, BACK THEN I HAD A GOAL.
I WANTED TO BE THE, THE OWNED, THE FIRST BARD COMPANY THAT BROUGHT GOODS UP TO TRINITY RIVER.
AND, UH, AND EVEN AS LATE AS, UH, THE LATE SEVENTIES, THERE WERE STILL PLANS AND TALK TO EVENTUALLY MAKE THE TRINITY MATCHABLE AGAIN.
IT USED TO BE, AND, UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S THE, THE, THE SPACING OF THE LAKES, CEDAR CREEK, LIVINGSTON, ALL OF THESE LAKES THAT ARE ALONG THE TRINITY AUTHORITY, RIVER AUTHORITY THERE WERE DESIGNED TO HAVE WATER TO CONTROL THE LEVEL AND THE LOCKS AND THE TRINITY.
SO, UH, BUT, UH, I GUESS THAT THING IS KIND OF GOING BY THE WAYSIDE.
WELL JUDGE ALL OF, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE PORT OF DALLAS, THERE'S THE TRANS TEXAS CORRIDOR, THERE'S THE RIVER OR TRADE CORRIDOR.
ALL OF THOSE ARE IN PLANS THAT ARE WAY IN THE FUTURE, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ENORMOUS IMPACT ON COFFMAN COUNTY.
UM, ESPECIALLY IF TRANSEX CORRIDOR COMES THROUGH.
AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING A LONG TIME AHEAD OF TIME, BUT AT ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, UH, UH, SOMEBODY FROM, WELL ACTUALLY, UH, MICHAEL BURBANK FROM, UH, NORTH TECH, UH, NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, POINTED OUT, THERE'S AN OLD ADAGE THAT THE, THERE'S TWO, THE TWO BEST DAYS TO PLANT A TREE ARE TOMORROW AND 30 YEARS AGO.
ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFER? YES, SIR.
GENERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD PROPOSE LINE ITEM TRANSFER TO INCREASE PROTECTIONAL SERVICES, 20,000 IN REDUCTION IN OFFENDER COSTS, PROBATE CY, INCREASED ATTORNEY FEES, 5,000 IN REDUCTION IN DEFENDERS COSTS, VA ASSET FORFEITURE OF FUND, INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS, 800 WITH REDUCTION IN OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, CHILD SHELTER, INCREASED MEDICAL SUPPLIES, 500, THE PROPERTY INSURANCE 2200 WITH REDUCTION IN UTILITIES OF 2,700 ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT.
ONE, INCREASED ROAD MATERIALS, 50,000 WITH REDUCTION IN CONTRACT LABOR LAW LIBRARY, INCREASED BOOKS $756 WITH REDUCTION IN SALARY RELATED COSTS.
ADDITIONALLY, IN THE HOT CHECK FUND, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES OF $3,000 BUDGETED FOR HEALTH EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE, 2000, MISCELLANEOUS 1000.
UH, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
LINE ITEM TRANSFER, NO MA MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN STATEMENT BY COMMISSIONER LER.
A VERY IMPORTANT MATTER ON THE ADDENDUM TO THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ENGINEER MATTERS FOR THE COUNTY.
I THINK WHAT WE, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO, UH, IS TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO SOLICIT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICE AND SPECIFICALLY LIST THE EXACT THINGS THAT WE WANT THE ENGINEER TO DO AND, UH, THROW IT OPEN TO SEE WHO, WHO WOULD GET THE BEST DEAL FROM.
SINCE IT'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, WE, OF COURSE, WE HAD THE WORKSHOP TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR OPTIONS, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OPTIONS IN MY ACCOUNT AND I TRIED TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT ALL WAS SAID.
I HAVE A COUPLE EXTRA COPIES IF ANYBODY WANTS PUT UP THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THIS DID, IF THIS IS INACCURATE, THEN FREE TO SPEAK UP.
BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL OPTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT NEED ONE OPTION, YOU KNOW, WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS DECIDED ON.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE A COMBINATION OF SEVERAL OPTIONS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO.
BUT NUMBER ONE, THE NUMBER ONE CONSIDERATION IS TIME THAT THE NEW COURT IS GOING TO IS, IS GONNA START UP ON, ON, UM, JANUARY THE FIRST.
AND I THINK OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SPACE FOR, FOR THAT NEW COURT.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER,
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THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, NOT ONLY TIME AND HOW FAST, UH, WE CAN DO, UM, AND IT'S, IT FALLS DOWN TO RENOVATIONS.IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE RENOVATE.
UM, UH, SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IS, YOU KNOW, IS THE COST OF EACH OF 'EM, HOW MUCH THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT CAN BE, UM, IN A BIG CONSIDERATION IS WHETHER IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE CAN RELIEVE PARKING AS WE, AS WE SHIFT, SHIFT OFFICES AROUND.
UM, I, I THINK I AGREE THAT, THAT WE, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR OPTIONS AND WE DO DO NEED TO SOON NAIL DOWN WHAT, UH, YOU, YOU DON'T DO RF QS WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT A LIST OF HERE'S HERE'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND DO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BUT I, I THINK WE, I THINK WE FORMULATE AN OVERALL PLAN THAT HERE'S, YOU KNOW, HERE'S OUR AVAILABLE SPACE, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA TO UTILIZE IT, THAT SPACE AND WIN AND, UM, UH, AND, AND HAND THAT OVER TO 'EM.
NOW IF WE DO RF QS AND DON'T START ANYTHING, UH, WE LOSE A MONTH.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, IF WE DO OUR RF QS, I THINK WE GOTTA DO A 30 DAY RFQ.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE GOTTA ADVERTISE.
WELL, SINCE THIS IS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO IN THE FIRST PLACE, I THINK WE'RE CUT THAT TIME SHORT.
WELL THAT'S ONE OF MY, THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT WE, WELL IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION IF Y'ALL GOT AN ENGINEERING FIRM OR SOMEBODY THAT Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO IT, THERE'S ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY, BUT UH, HAD BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WITH, UH, MR. PORTER AND, UH, UH, JUDGE CHITTY.
UH, AND THAT'S, UH, JUST PUTTING A JURY BOX IN JUDGE KITTY'S COURTROOM NOW, UH, THERE, THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD SIZE ROOM RIGHT OPPOSITE THAT WALL THAT THE DA'S INVESTIGATORS UTILIZE HIS OFFICE.
IF THAT WALL WAS REMOVED, THEN YOU'VE GOT ROOM FOR A JURY BOX THERE AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DISPLACE THE DA'S OFFICE.
UH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO A LOT OF ELABORATE CONSTRUCTION IN THERE TO GET THAT OUTTA COURT.
UH, I THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT, I THINK EVERYBODY, EVEN HAL AND JACK, UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GONE
BUT, UH, I THINK AS FAR AS WHEN WE START TAKING OUT WALLS AND CUTTING HERE AND CUTTING AIR AND THAT WE ALL LOOK AT, AND THAT'S ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY, BUT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS THROWN INTO THE DISCUSSION AS WELL.
UM, WELL, AND AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A, A BIG PART OF IT IS, UH, THE, THE, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY PROPOSAL THAT'S JUST A ONE ONE STAGE FIX FOR ANYTHING.
NO, I MEAN, EVERY PROPOSAL IS GONNA REQUIRE FINISHING OUT SPACE SOMEWHERE AND THEN MOVING SOMEBODY IN THAT SPACE AND THEN REFINISHING THE SPACE THAT'S VACATED NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A, IS A QUICK FIX.
UH, IT STILL LEAVES THIS COURTROOM SHORT JANUARY THE FIRST.
NO, NOT IF HOW AND, AND JACK MOVE OUT TO, UH, CAME MOVE OUTTA THE COURTHOUSE.
WHO ALL CAME TO MOVE OUTTA THE COURTHOUSE SAFELY? I DON'T THINK WE CAN MOVE VERY PEOPLE MORE THAN HOW AND UH, UH, JACK AND POSSIBLY PUBLIC WORKS.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PRETTY GOOD SIZE
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UH, DISPLACE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY, THEY SUPPORT THE COURTS.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DISPLACE THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT THE COURTS.
THE, UH, WHERE GEORGE AND LAURIE AND FRED AND ALL THOSE IN THAT AREA WORKED VERY WELL OVER THE JAIL.
AND THAT WOULD FREE UP OFFICE SIX OFFICE SPACES.
AND, AND I KIND OF, WELL, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO MOVE THE VETERANS OFFICER BEFORE VETERANS CAN'T GET INTO HIM AND THE COURTHOUSE MASONS MAN OUGHT BE IN THE COURTHOUSE.
WELL, BUT I THINK I'M LOOKING AT EFFICIENCY, UH, FOR THE OPERATION OF THE COURT SYSTEMS. THE, AND I HATE TO USE THE WORD NON-ESSENTIAL, BUT I SHOULD SAY NON COURT ESSENTIAL, RIGHT? PERSONNEL
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LIKE LAURA, SHE'S GOT TO BE THERE.THE DISTRICT CLERK DA TIES IN THERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT.
UH, WE CAN MOVE A LOT OF KATHY PAGEANT'S AREA OVER THERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE, THEY DON'T WORK WITH THE COURT SYSTEM.
WE KEEP ALL THE COURT SYSTEM WITHIN.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROOM OVER THERE AND WE'VE GOT TO USE THAT SPACE.
BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR MORE EFFICIENT THE DA STAYS IN THAT BUILDING, UH, AND UTILIZE THIS UP HERE IF WE HAVE TO FOR, FOR PUBLIC WORKS OR WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE AUDITOR WORKS A LITTLE QUITE A BIT WITH THE TREASURER, THE DA WORKS ALL THE TIME, THE COURT SYSTEM.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT KEEP KEPT TOGETHER.
IF WE COULD JUST MOVE ALL THE OTHER 9 1 1, UH, UH, KEN LEY AND ALL THAT GROUP DOWN
THERE'S A LOT OF OFFICE SPACE OVER THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM.
AND I THINK PROBABLY GEORGE YORK PROBABLY LIKE, LIKE THAT AREA, WOULDN'T YOU? THAT THAT'S, I THINK IT'S A REAL COMPATIBLE SPACE.
YOU NEED WE'RE PREPARED, UH, TO THAT.
I'VE DISCUSSED WITH YOU, I BELIEVE FRIDAY WE'RE PREPARED TO, TO START ON THAT.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF SPACE OVER THERE.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PRELIMINARY WORK BEEN DONE.
UH, I DON'T WHAT MR. PORTER'S, UH, MEDICAL CONDITION IS RIGHT NOW THAT HE GET IF HE GOT HOME OR NOT.
UH, HE TOLD US LAST WEEK THAT HE HAD NINE FOOT SHEET ROCK THAT WAS READY TO GO UP ON THE WALL.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER SHEET ROCK IS SOMEBODY GONNA KNOW WHERE IT'S, UH, BUT WE'RE PREPARED TO START DOING THAT TODAY.
UH, AND AS I'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE IS HAVING A DETENTION OFFICER TO SUPERVISE THOSE PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE RULE BY T CLOSE AND THE, UH, JAIL COMMISSION.
UH, AND I, I DISCUSSED IT WITH, WITH THE JUDGE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO THE WHOLE COURT HERE THAT WE, UH, WORK THE DETENTION OFF ONE DAY OFF AND PAY THEM TO WORK THAT I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM ASSIGNING THEM TO WORKING THEIR DAYS OFF.
AND ALSO WE'RE JUST CREATING A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ACCRUING COMP TIME AND TIME AND HALF ONCE WE GET TO THAT MAGIC FOUR 80 NUMBER, UH, YOU KNOW, GOTTA PAY THEM ANYWAY.
UH, AND I THINK THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, THIS IS A KIND OF A NORMAL PROJECT, SO IT'S NOT WHERE WE JUST WORK SOMEBODY TWO OR THREE TIMES.
WE'RE GOING HAVE TO WORK INTO THIS FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
SO, UH, BUT I AM PREPARED, WE COULD START TODAY IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE MATERIAL TO DO IT, UH, RON, UH, OR LEAD MAINTENANCE MAN COULD, COULD TAKE MORGAN GET STARTED.
I PUT SHEET ROCK UP ONCE YOU GET THE FIRST SHEET UP AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, PLUMB, IT'S, I CAN EVEN PUT IT UP.
I HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE CEILING.
THE SHERIFF CLEARED UP ONE THING I'D HAD SUGGESTIONS THAT, OH, WELL LET'S JUST GET A RETIRED POLICE MEMBER.
GOT A POLICE OFFICER RIGHT THERE.
BUT THE PERSON SUPERVISING THOSE TRUSTEES HAS TO BE A CERTIFIED DETENTION OFFICER.
I'M HAVING SEND MY, RIGHT NOW I'M HAVING TO SEND MY TRANSPORT OFFICER TO JAIL CABINET TO, TO MEET THAT, THAT DEPARTMENT.
SO HAS THAT JUST BEEN IN BY ONE OFFICER OUT? I MEAN, YES.
THAT'S, IF WE ONLY HAVE ONE, ONE PROJECT IN HERE AND WE, UH, RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR TODAY.
WE, WE CAN PROBABLY PUT SIX OUT THERE.
UH, AND, UH, AND ONE, ONE OFFICER CAN, CAN SUPERVISE 'EM, ESPECIALLY THE ENCLOSED AREA OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY CONFINED AREA.
BUT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN SUPERVISE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL MR. PORTER GETS BACK.
WE CAN'T DO IT OVER LONG TERM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, UH, CONSIDERABLE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE DO OUT THERE.
OBVIOUSLY YOU YEAH, I THINK RON CAN START, COULD START THEM.
UH, JUDGE, UH, I'VE GOT A JUDGMENT THAT WORKS IN MY OFFICE.
I IN MY BARN AND HAS WORKED REAL CLOSE WITH MR. CORDER WHEN HE WAS REMODELING MY, MY BARN AND HE'S DONE THE SHEEP ROCK AND THE REMODEL WORK FOR A LIVING.
AND HE DOES THIS STUFF REAL FAST AND HE AND MR. COURT PORTER HAD HIT IT OFF.
IN FACT, MR. PORT HAS WARN HIM TO COME TO WORK FOR HIM, UH, TO HELP ALSO.
AND I'LL SEND HIM OVER IF IT'LL HELP US KEEP THIS PROJECT ON TRACK US LOOK AT IS SENDING, YOU KNOW, SENDING SOMEBODY OVER TO GO HELP AND PITCH IN AND GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I'VE GOT ANOTHER, I'VE GOT ANOTHER THING TO BRING UP BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR AWAY FROM WHO CAN MOVE AND WHILE THE SHERIFF'S UP, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS LEVELS OF SECURITY AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, IN KEEPING COURT FUNCTIONS IN THE COURTHOUSE, UH, I AGREE WITH JIM THAT IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN LEAVE THE DISTRICT
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ATTORNEY IN THE COURTHOUSE, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE EVEN AN EVEN BETTER SOLUTION BECAUSE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NEEDS A HIGHER LEVEL SECURITY.NOW, OF COURSE, NOW I'M GONNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, LAURA AND JOHNNY AND DICK MURPHY ALL MAD AT ME AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, BUT SECOND LEVEL OF SECURITY IS THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
I MEAN, THE COURTS NEED ACCESS TO RECORDS AND, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF IF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS ACROSS THE STREET OR IF THE COUNTY CLERK IS ACROSS THE STREET, AND IT MAKES MORE SENSE SINCE THE COUNTY CLERK, YOU KNOW, HA YOU KNOW, DOES SUPPLY THE COURTS.
BUT, UH, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
I MEAN, PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC, THE GENERAL PUBLIC DEALS WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND TO ME IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO MOVE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THE, THE TAX OFFICE.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID AT THE WORKSHOP OF ALL OF THE FINANCIAL FUNCTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC THAT NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC NEEDS ACCESS TO, BUT DON'T REALLY REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT OF SECURITY, UH, MOVE THOSE DOWN TO, TO THE OLD JAIL.
LIKE I SAY, THERE'S 11,000 SQUARE FEET OF JUST WIDE OPEN SPACE, PLUS AT LEAST ANOTHER 5,000 OR SO BITS AND PIECES IN, IN THE OLDER PART OF THE JAIL.
ONLY A THIRD OF THAT ALREADY TAKEN UP WITH THOSE, THAT COURTROOM AND THOSE OFFICES THAT MR. PORTERS HAS ALREADY STARTED OUT.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE TAX OFFICE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND ALONG WITH THE AUDITOR AND THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THE, AND PUBLIC WORKS ALL TO THE JAIL, MOVE THE COUNTY CLERK HERE ACROSS THE STREET, THEN YOU HAVE, THEN THIS BUILDING DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT MUCH SECURITY.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC NEEDS ACCESS TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT THE, EVERYTHING THAT DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF SECURITY IS ALL GONNA BE INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE.
AND SHERIFF, I, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU'RE UP, I'D LIKE HEAR YOUR INPUT, SEE IF, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT YOU THINK OF.
WELL OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT IS THE BEST SOLUTION.
AND, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LEVEL OF SECURITY IN THIS BUILDING THAT'S, THAT'S COUNTYWIDE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CAMERAS IN THE PANIC BUTTON AND THAT THAT WOULD STILL BE THERE.
UH, IT'S JUST NOT THE, UH, A BIT HIGH VISIBILITY WE HAVE AT THE COURTHOUSE.
DO WE SERIOUSLY, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
DO WE THINK THAT WE COULD MOVE THE TAX OFFICE OUT THERE AND JOHNNY'S OFFICE OUT THERE AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS STILL HAVE ENOUGH? IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM OUT THERE FOR DICK MURPHY'S OFFICE PLUS JOHNNY'S OFFICE? WELL, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, PLUS OF COURSE IS ALREADY THERE.
BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE DICK MURPHY'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL TO THE PUBLIC, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA KEEP IT SUCCESSFUL TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY GOT THE DRIVE IN OUT HERE.
UH, I THINK IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MOVE THEM.
AND I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU MOVE PUBLIC WORKS OUT OF THE BASEMENT, UH, THE DA'S ALWAYS NOT GONNA NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE ROOM THAN THEY'VE GOT NOW.
AND IF YOU MOVE PUBLIC WORKS OUT THERE, ALONG WITH HOW, AND, UH, JACK, UH, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO MOVE, UM, IF GEORGE CAN MOVE ALL OF HIS EQUIP, GOTTA REMEMBER WHEN YOU MOVE GEORGE, YOU'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MOVING GEORGE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING ALL THAT EQUIPMENT.
THAT ONE ROOM WILL HAVE TO STAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S HAS, HAS TO REMAIN THERE.
BUT EDON HAS A LOT OF WORK THAT THERE IS SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO VERY COMPATIBLE I THINK FOR WHAT, WHAT GEORGE USE.
WE WENT WHEN WE GO THERE MONDAY, TUESDAY, YEAH.
ONE, YEAH, ONE LAST WEEK WE THERE FOR GEORGE BIG ROOM.
WHAT HE NEEDS, LAURIE, I DON'T FORGET.
SOCIAL SECURITY USES THAT OFFICE ALSO.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS YOU'VE GOT THOSE CELLS WITH THE BUNK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BUNKS.
WE HAVE TALKED WITH, UH, TEXAS CORRECTION INDUSTRIES AND THEY'VE TOLD US, YOU JUST TELL US WHAT WE WANT, WHAT YOU WANT US TO BUILD, AND WE'LL BUILD IT.
WELL, YOU COULD BUILD LATERAL FILES IN THOSE BUNKS, UH, YOU JUST TELL 'EM WHAT YOU WANT AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL BUILD IT.
AND ALONG THE OTHER WALL OF THOSE CELLS, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT FILING CABINETS AND IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE SOME PRETTY SECURE, UH, STORAGE FOR, FOR FILES.
UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WOULD BE LABYRINTH.
BUT LIKE I SAY, WE, WE, THE OPTIMAL SITUATION IS TO BUILD A COURTS BUILDING.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION RIGHT NOW.
WE, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA WORK WHAT WE GOT.
WELL, IT WAS ONLY ALWAYS ANTICIPATED USE THE OLD JAIL FACILITY FOR STORAGE.
THAT WAS ALWAYS WHAT I ANTICIP WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, IS IF WE CAN DECIDE WHO'S GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND LET YOU KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE HOW THEY LET THEM GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE US SOME IDEA HOW THEY WANT THEIR OFFICE CONFIGURED.
SHERIFF, WE HAVE, WE HAVE DONE THAT.
JACK AND I WERE OUT THERE LAST
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WEEK WITH MR. PORTER.WELL I SUGGESTED THAT TO HIM THAT WE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN, HE'S NOT HERE.
I'M NOT SAYING WHO GOES OUT THERE.
OKAY, WELL WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL SPACE PLANNER ON THE PAYROLL THAT THAT'S FINE.
SHE WEAR, SHE WEARS A LOT OF HATS.
BUT I THINK THAT IF WE, SHE GETS PRESSURE TOWARD HER, SHE GETS A LITTLE, UH, TERRITORY, TERRITORIAL TERRITORY AND MAY NOT KEEP AN OPEN MIND ALL THE TIME.
BUT I THINK IF WE COULD LET THEM HAVE A LITTLE INPUT OF HOW THEY WANT THEIR OFFICES CONFIGURED OUT THERE MIGHT HELP A LITTLE BIT IF WE PROVE YEAH, WELL THAT'S WHY I SAY YOU GET THE COURTROOM, NOBODY IN THE COURTROOM AND THE OFFICES THAT ARE ALREADY FRAMED UP, EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY'VE GOT CHANGED.
AND I SAY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND MAYBE WE, WE KNOW FOR SURE PRETTY MUCH HOW, AND JACK'S GOTTA GO, UH, DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM MOVING PUBLIC WORKS OUT THERE.
UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE DA'S GOING TO NEED ANY MORE ROOM THAN WHAT'S IN THE PUBLIC WORKS OUT THERE.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WITH THIS GRANT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.
WE GOTTA FIND SPACE FOR, I THINK GEORGIA PUBLIC DEFENDER NEED TO BE UP IN THE COURTHOUSE TOO.
IT'D BE ADVANTAGE CASE TO BE CLOSE TO THE COURT.
IT'S A SEPARATE BUT EQUAL TYPE PROPOSITION.
JUDGE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT JUDGE S****Y TALKED ABOUT IS YOU HAVE TO GROW PROBATION AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GROW COURT COLLECTIONS, WHICH I THINK IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SPACE FOR PUBLIC WORKS IS MY 2 CENTS WHAT TO SAY? THERE'S A LOT OF AREA IN THERE, BUT DID, DID YOU AND I DISCUSS ONE TIME ABOUT COLLECTIONS SHOULD BE CLOSE DOWNSTAIRS BY WHERE YOU'RE AT? IS THAT THE, THE SPACE FOR COLLECTIONS DOWNSTAIRS? IT IS ADEQUATE FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT AND THEY'RE NOT CLOGGING THE HALLWAYS UPSTAIRS.
WELL, JUSTICE, ALL THIS NEED TO BE DISCUSSED HERE IN COURT OR I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TODAY.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AGAIN AND, AND GO WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SEVERAL DETAIL.
I THINK WE CAN GET STARTED LIKE ON THIS.
FIND OUT WHAT THE MATERIAL IS.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, LET ME, LET ME READ YOU HOW THIS IS WORDED TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EMPLOY EMPLOYING AN ENGINEER TO STUDY SEVERAL MATTERS FOR THE COUNTY.
I'M SORRY, I WANT MORE SPECIFICS BEFORE I SAY YES
I MEAN THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, ACTUALLY AS FAR AS OUR ON AGENDA IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD, YOU'VE GOT AN ENGINEERING MIND AND YOU WANT MAKE A MOTION BEHIND TODAY, THAT'S ONE THING.
OR IF YOU WANNA GIVE SOME SUGGESTIONS OR SOME, UH, PROPOSALS FROM SEVERAL ENGINEERING FIRMS AND THEN MAKE A DECISION.
I I I'D SUGGEST LET'S TAKE PROPOSALS AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT AND DO IT ON A SHORT TIMEFRAME.
I MEAN SPEED UP AT THE REMODELING PROJECT.
I MEAN, DO WE HAVE BEFORE WE REALLY SPEND A LOT OF, I I THINK WE CAN FINISH THAT OUT IN 30, 25 DAYS.
WE GET STARTED MAINTAIN, WE, WE'LL MAINTAIN THE WORK.
WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMEONE TO VISOR.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT BOIL DOWN.
I JUST, I CAN'T PULL PEOPLE OFF THE FLOOR BECAUSE WE JUST MENTALLY OUT THERE.
SO SOMETHING ELSE WE DON'T KNOW MR. PORTER STATUS, I GUESS.
HE'S HOME, BUT HE NOT GONNA BE BACK ON THE JOB FOR WHILE JUDGE THREE TOMORROW WON'T BE BACK FOR TWO, THREE DAYS.
HE, SO WE CAN INSTRUCT BUT HE CAN'T.
AND IF HE'S GOT PLENTY OF HELP OUT THERE, HE CAN COORDINATE WITH THIS GUY THAT
HOW ABOUT PAYING, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
PAY AUTHORIZE SHERIFF TO PAY THAT OVERTIME SO THAT JUDGE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DICTATE IT IF THEY WANT TO, THEY CAN.
YEAH, WELL THAT'S WHAT WE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING SCHEDULE WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY, WE NEED OBLIGATION FROM FOR A SHORT WHILE.
I'M SURE HE'S GOT FLEXIBILITY OVERTIME.
WE KEEP THIS THING GOING, BUT ANYTHING WE NEED COURT ORDER TO DO THAT, I
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THINK WE'LL, BUT I CAN PUT IT ON IN TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.BUT IF WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE MATERIAL IS AND GET THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DAY THE CHIEF OPERATOR GO UP, WE CAN CERTAINLY START THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, UH, I GUESS WE, WHOEVER TALK TO, NEEDS TO TALK TO 'EM ABOUT TOOLS.
IF WE'VE GOT SCREW GUNS TO PUT THAT UP WITH AND NOT WE MEDICAL PURCHASE A COUPLE OF, WE CAN GET STARTED.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK OF US SENDING SOME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, ONE, MAYBE TWO OF OUR CREW OVER THERE TO, TO HELP THIS THING GOING? I THINK THEY WANT WAIT AND SEE IF THEY'RE GOING BE NEEDED.
IF HE'S GOT A SUPERVISOR QUARTER AFTER HELPING AND THE SHERIFF'S GOT A SUPERVISOR AND THE TRUSTEES OUT THERE.
WE DON'T WANT TOO MANY PEOPLE GETTING IN THE WAY.
THE MAIN THING WE'RE GONNA NEED IS SOMEBODY TO DIRECT THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE, WE CAN PUT THE LABOR OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING SIT, YOU WANT START IN THE MORNING? I CAN CALL TODAY EIGHT O'CLOCK.
I CAN'T BUT I'M, I'M READY TO GO TODAY.
MAYBE IF WE CAN FIND IT WITH A CAROL, MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THE CAROL OUT HERE TODAY.
I'LL CATCH UP WITH AND I'LL CALL YOU.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CALL MR AND SHERIFF.
SHE ROCKS OUT THERE AND NOW STACKED UP THAT ONE AREA.
JACK, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET STARTED GETTING ALL THAT OTHER STUFF LEFT OVER FROM THE SALE OUT OF THERE? ALL THOSE, UH, COMPUTERS AND, AND JUST STACKS AND STACKS UP.
WE GOT A LADY DOWN, DOWN THE STREET'S GONNA PICK ALL THAT UP AND UH, SHE'S VACATION.
FIND THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN SO THEY DIDN'T PICK IT UP.
SHE'S GONNA PICK UP HER NUMBER.
WE DO HAVE ROOF PROBLEMS OUT THERE, SO WE'RE GOING TO USE, YOU KNOW, UH, BUSES.
THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WATERS GOING.
IT'S STILL LEAKING, BUT THE JUDGE GOES A GREAT ROOF GUY.
YEAH, WE'VE JUST BEEN PUTTING, SPENDING THAT BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET IT DONE.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS FOR A LONG TIME COMING TO DISPATCH AND THEN BURNING.
SO I DUNNO WHERE IT KIND OF, IT KIND OF HAD A V THERE AND IT CAME RIGHT DOWN OVER IN DISPATCH.
WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING, A GOOD PLACE.
IS THAT DISPATCHED? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WELL TRAINING, IT LOOKED LIKE A TRAINING ROOM.
WELL THAT, THAT'S THE OLD CAP.
YEAH, THAT THERE'S A BIG SPACE OVER THERE, BUT IT WAS LEAKING THERE TOO.
YEAH, THAT PUT THAT FOAM ROOF LIKE WE PUT ON HERE, UH, HERE THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY LEADS.
UM, WHAT ARE WE, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR RFQ.
SO HOW DO WE DECIDE TO GO TO WORK? UH, I THINK EACH ONE OF YOU'ALL TO GIVE ME A, A LIST, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT, TODAY OR TOMORROW, UH, ON WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM TODAY.
AND UH, THEN I'LL GIVE THAT TO EITHER HAL OR JACK, WHOEVER'S GONNA PROBLEM WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN REFERENCE TO, WELL, ONE THING I THINK WE'LL TO THE DISTRICT JUDGE TO SEE WHAT THE COST OF EXCAVATION THERE WOULD BE.
I THINK WE'LL LOOK TO JERRY TO SEE WHAT THE COST UP HERE WOULD BE.
NOW BEYOND THOSE TWO THINGS, THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY.
WELL I THINK, I THINK YOU ALSO DECIDE AND, AND WE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE SPACE WORK DONE BECAUSE WE DID THAT FOR PROGRAMMING FOR THE COURTS BUILDING.
BASICALLY WE JUST NEED HIM TO TAKE THAT DATA AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT WILL FIT WHERE? AND, AND, AND BASICALLY I THINK SPACE IS GOING DICTATE TO MORE ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, UH, YEAH AND HAL AND JACK HAVE ALREADY MET WITH MR. PORTER.
I NEED TO GET UH, KATHY TO MEET WITH HIM.
SO, UH, TODAY OR TOMORROW IF Y'ALL GET ME THAT AND I'LL GET IT TO JACK AND UH, WHAT Y'ALL LIKE TO SEE THE ENGINEERING DO FROM WHAT REPORT.
Y'ALL GOT SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THIS? UH, WELL SINCE JIM AND I DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE, WHY HE AND I Y'ALL GET IT TO US AND WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT.
WORK WE'LL, WE'LL GET TOGETHER TO GET ON IT.
AND JACK, UH, YOU, YOU WORK WITH NEIL ON WHETHER OR NOT WE, SINCE THIS, WE SINCE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT
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ANYWAY.I THINK WE THINK THAT TIME SHORT CAN, I THINK ALL WE NEED TO DO IS KIND OF GET A PACK TOGETHER, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANY MORE OFFICE SPACE OVER THERE.
THE JAIL BECAUSE THERE'S EIGHT, 10 OFFICES OVER THERE NOW BECAUSE THAT COURTROOM OVER THERE, IT MAY BE USED FOR A VISITING JUDGE.
WE WANT LEAVE THE OFFICE, THE JUDGE'S OFFICE.
I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO JACK WITH, UH, WITH THE COURTROOM OR THOSE OFFICES THAT HE'S GOT LAID OUT FOR THAT COURTROOM SUPPORT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
BUT SEE THAT'S LEAVES 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
YOU GOT PLENTY ON THAT, INCLUDING THE CHAPEL.
ONE OF THEM COULD BE A JURY ROOM, BUT THAT'S ATTORNEY GENERAL.
CPS CAN USE THAT ANYTIME I GUESS.
AND, AND I DID NOT GET Y'ALL A COPY OF THE LETTER, BUT UH, FRIDAY, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY I GOT A COPY OF THE LETTER.
I GAVE A COPY TO THE SHERIFF OR SHOWED THE SHERIFF, UH, A LETTER FROM THE FOUR D MASTER THAT, UH, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES JUDGE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TELLING HIM THAT NOT TO SET.
HE'S GETTING TOO MANY CASES SET AND THERE'S NOT ROOM HERE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, HE SAID THAT HE WAS GONNA, HE'S HEARING CASES FOUR DAYS A WEEK OR FOUR DAYS A MONTH NOW.
AND HE'S GONNA HAVE TO DOUBLE THAT UP OR GO MORE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'RE CUTTING DOWN THE NUMBER OF CASES PER DAY THAT THEY'RE HAVING THE TRIAL.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE TRIAL TRIAL DAYS.
SO THE USAGE OF THAT NEW COURTROOM IS GOING TO BE ONGOING.
I IT'S GOING TO BE USED QUITE A BIT.
JUDGE, YOU COULD SEND HIM A TWO WORD REPLY.
THAT COURT, THAT
SO, UH, WE'VE ENTERTAINED THE MOTION THEN TO AUTHORIZE JACK TO GO OUT FOR WHAT WE CALLED RF.
UH, RF QS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICE FOR, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS, UH, OBTAINED IN COUNTY BUILDINGS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER.
I'M GONNA TAKE A SHORT BREAK THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND PAY SOME BILLS.
CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? YES SIR.
IN THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THINGS, THIS IS VERY SMALL, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF Y'ALL COULD FIND ANOTHER NAME FOR THAT BUILDING.
THE MARION PORTER ANNEX BUILDING.
IT'S GOT A SIGN ON THE FRONT OF IT THAT SAYS THE HAM BUILDING IT JUST A JAIL.
I'VE NEVER BEEN SENT TO JAIL YET.
JUDGE YOU UP THE DON'T WORK ON EITHER ONE.
THEY'RE STILL, UH, IN OPERATION.
WHO'S THAT? UH, RECYCLED, UH, THE BETTER FOR MATERIAL THEY'VE BEEN BOUGHT OUT RECENTLY.
WHERE ARE THEY AT? OKAY, JUST SAW THAT LETTER AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE DID.
I THINK I'M GONNA PUT ON THAT.
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AND WE CAN'T PUT A PROVISION THAT WE'LL BUY FROM THEM EXCLUSIVELY OR WHOEVER COMES ALONG IS CHEAPER.JUDGE CAN WE, CAN WE MAKE THEM CHANGE THE NAME OF THE NEED TO JUST SOMETHING BESIDES A NAME WITH
THAT SURE CREATES A, THE PEOPLE WHO THINK MAY REALIZES THEY STILL THINK THAT WE AND AND AND IT'S ALL, AND IT'S A LONG EXPLANATION EVERY TIME YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LAW GOT PASSED, BILL AND THE WAY IT WAS ON THE BALLOT FOR THE PUBLIC.
ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT? ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF TAX RELIEF AMENDMENT TO STATE CONSTITUTION? NO.
I MEAN IF EVERYBODY KNEW NOW WHAT THAT WAS CREATED, THEY PROBABLY WOULD'VE VOTED NO.
WELL, THE OLD SYSTEM WASN'T ANYTHING TO BRAG ABOUT EITHER.
NO, BECAUSE YOU HAD EACH INDIVIDUAL.
BUT THAT'S HOW IT GOT GOT PASSED.
ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE TAX RELIEF AMENDMENT, THE STATE CONSTITUTION.
AND NOBODY WILL, EVERYBODY WAS ASLEEP AT THE, YEAH, IT'S NOT A LOT BETTER, BUT IT'S STILL BETTER THAN THE OLD SYSTEM.
IT'S JUST MY PROBLEM WITH WHERE THEY CREATED IT, THAT THERE'S NOBODY OVER.
YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ELECTED BOARD.
AN ELECTED BOARD, THAT DISTRICT, THEN YOU GET SOME RESULTS.
I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEIR SOFTWARE COST US 300,000.
THAT WAS JUST, THAT WAS JUST CRAZY.
THEY KNEW WE WERE LOOKING AT SOFTWARE WHEN THEY DID IT.
I'LL BET YOU ANYTHING THAT GEORGE IS NOT HERE ABOUT, I'LL BET YOU THERE'S
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SOMETHING YOU PUT BETWEEN THEM THAT MAKE, THAT INTERPRETS THEM AND LET THOSE THINGS TALK TO EACH OTHER.I THAT JUST, WELL, WHEN THEY DID IT, WE WERE STILL, WE WERE STILL WITH THAT OLD PICK SYSTEM THAT, I MEAN, YOU HAD ANY CHANGE WE MADE, THEY HAD THE RIGHT CODE TO MAKE IT WORK.
UH, I MEAN THEY DID THAT BEFORE, UH, BEFORE WE MADE.
AND THE COMPANY THEY PICKED HAVE FINANCIAL PACKAGE FOR WHAT? WE ON OUR INSURANCE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR, YOUR CUP WITH ALL OUR PENS.
I THINK WE SHOULD REPORT THOSE CHILD, THOSE PEOPLE FROM THE AGS OFFICE.
I'LL BE GONE TOMORROW AND MY GRAND ABOUT HANSON.
UH, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE WILL NOT MEET NEXT MONDAY.
MEET NEXT MONDAY WILL BE NORTHEAST TEXAS COUNTY JUDGE COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S WIFE IS NOT SAYING THE FAR AS FIRST THING, UH, MONDAY MORNING.
AND THEN MAYOR PAT EVANS COUNTY JUDGE, UH, RON HARRIS WILL GIVE THEIR GREETINGS ALL OF OUR GREETINGS.
AND WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PANEL BEGINNING AROUND 10 O'CLOCK.
AND UH, I'M NOT SURE WHO ALL GOT INVITED BECAUSE KIM ALLISON INVITED THE LEGISLATORS AND THEN 11 O'CLOCK, UH, CONGRESSMAN, UH, BEEN INVITED TO COME AND PARTICIPATE.
SO WE ONLY GOT WORD BACK FROM ONE.
HE SAID HE COULD NOT BE THERE.
AND AS COMMISSIONER, UH, CONGRESSMAN HESLING, BUT, UH, STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM RALPH HALL AND SAM JOHNSON.
I GONNA DO A DRAMATIC READING FROM SHE ASKED FOR THE MEETING ONE.
IT'S AT THE, UH, MARRIOTT, THE DALLAS MARRIOTT AT LEGACY CENTER.
AND THAT'S IN PLANO OR SOME PLACE.
HEY, I CHOSE THIS SPOT BECAUSE I'M THE PRESIDENT THIS YEAR, SO I GOT TO CHOOSE WHERE I WANTED TO GO PLACE.
WELL, THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AT, UH, NDOS LAST YEAR AND, UH, THE YEAR BEFORE AT, UH, DEL LAGO AND GALVESTON'S NOT IN OUR AREA.
SO SINCE I WANTED IT UP HERE IN OUR AREA, WELL, THIS WAS THE BEST BID THAT WE GOT.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE IT'S BEEN UP HERE.
NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE BACK AT DE LAGO, BUT I STEPPED DOWN NEXT WEDNESDAY AS PRESIDENT ALL OVER.
YOU SHOULD DO IT TO DO THAT TOO.
ALL YOUR WILDEST DREAMS WILL COME TO THE
WHAT? WELL, WHEN YOU GO TO, WHEN YOU GO TO ST.
ANDREW ANDREWS, THERE'S A PLAQUE IN THERE THAT SAYS GOD HAS BEEN PLAYING HERE SINCE 1520 SINCE PEOPLE THOUGHT THE WORLD WAS FLAT.
I HAD A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE GO PLAY WITH ANDREW.
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I BOUGHT THOSE THERE.AND I, MAN, THIS IS SO COOL TO GET THERE.
WE DRIVE 300 MILES SCOTLAND DOING ELSE.
AND THERE'S THOSE SAME BALL AT ST.
ANDREWS OR WHERE I HAD A GOOD FRIEND, I LIKE A LITTLE, IT WOULDN'T, AND THE, I PUT OH YEAH.
HE WAS TELLING ME THAT WAS THERE.
WE HAD TO TRY TO GET THE DOUBLE, DOUBLE.
OH, AND YOU COULDN'T WALK AROUND.
COULDN'T WE HAVE TO SETTLE FOR EVIL.
MARYANNE, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO MOVE TO? YOU REMEMBER, MY BOSS IS TERRITORIAL
SHE HAS HER TERRITORY MARKED OUT.
SEE, THAT'S ONE DOWN THREE OR FOUR TO GO.
WE HAVE 10 MINUTES LEFT ON THE TAPE.
I THINK HE, HE JUST SIGNED RIGHT? HE JUST SIGNED.
COMMISSIONER GENERAL MAKES THE MOTION.
AND ALL VOTES FOR TO PAY THE BILLS.
UH, REMIND Y'ALL ONCE AGAIN, NO MEETING NEXT MONDAY.
WE'LL BE BACK IN TWO WEEKS PROBABLY WHEN WE'LL DO THAT.
AND HAL HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF BILLS.
BILL, UH, LOVES, I THINK EVERYTHING'S UNDERSTOOD.
SO Y'ALL, IF I DIDN'T MOTION ADJOURN.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
JUDGE, TELL YOU WHAT, YOU IN DUNDEE, SCOTLAND MADE FRIENDS WITH THIS GUY THAT IS A MEMBER THAT'S HE'S OFFERED AN INTERN SUMMER.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST WRONG, ISN'T IT? IT JUST DOESN'T.