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AUGUST 14TH, 2006,
COMMISSIONER
DOES FRANK, A GRACIOUS HEAVEN FATHER, WE THINK THEY, FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY, PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US AND GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS.
IN TODAY'S DELIBERATIONS, PLEASE LOOK WITH FAVOR ON OUR TROOPS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY, AND HELP EVERYONE IN THE MIDDLE EAST TO ARRIVE AT A, SOME KIND OF EQUITABLE DECISION FOR THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING ON OVER THERE.
UH, SEND US SOME RAIN WHENEVER YOU CAN.
YOU NOTICE I DIDN'T SAY WHEN YOU WANT TO.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD ANY CLOTHES TO SEE.
WELL, WE GOT SMOKES YESTERDAY.
WE JUST CAUGHT A LITTLE TINY BIT OF IT BECAUSE I WAS DRIVING IN ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK.
UH, TEMPERATURE GAUGE IN MY CAR SAID 104.
WENT THROUGH THAT SHOWER DOWN TO 79.
NOW, PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, ENTERTAIN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
FIRST ITEM WE HAD ON THE AGENDA WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, THAT MATTER'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, AND SO WE WON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THAT TODAY.
UH, NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS, UH, COUNTY FARM MARSHAL TALKING ABOUT EXTENDING THE COUNTYWIDE BURN BAND.
MORNING, LARRY, I SUPPOSE IT PRETTY WELL SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE HIGHEST LEVEL THAT I'VE EVER SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN THE FIRE MARSHAL.
IT'S UP TO 758 OUT OF THE MAXIMUM NUMBER.
SO THERE'S ABOUT A HUNDRED COUNTIES IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE UP TO THAT MAXIMUM LEVEL WHERE THEY'RE ALL SURROUNDING US.
NOTHING GOOD FOR THE FUTURE AND WE JUST NEED TO EXTEND IT BY AT LEAST A 60 DAY PERIOD.
AND IF WE DO START GETTING RAIN IN THE FALL, THEN I'LL BE GLAD TO COME BACK AND REQUEST IT TO TAKE IT OFF.
WE NEED TO AHEAD AND IT ON FOR 60 MORE DAYS.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FIRES IN THE COUNTY SO FAR.
NOTHING OF A EXTREMELY LARGE SIZE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UP IN A 15, 20, 30 ACRE RANGE HAD A COUPLE OF STRUCTURE FIRES THAT CAUSED ABOUT STARTING WITH THE GRASS AND GOING TO 'EM.
SO IT'S TIME WE JUST GO AHEAD AND EXTEND IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I REQUEST THIS FOR SECTION DAY EXTENSION.
I DON'T SEE ANY WAY TO NOT EXTEND THAT.
COMMISSIONER BILL MAKES THE MOTION.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, MR. DEMPSEY JOHNSON WANTS TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THE ROAD CONNECTING BRIARWOOD DRIVE WITH THE DOG KNOWN AS THE RANCH AT CEDAR CREEK.
SO WE, UH, WHICH IS NOW IN THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
I'VE GOT THIS BIG YEAH, THIS, THIS IS, I'D LIKE, SO, SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS, I'D LIKE TO THIS, TO MR. JOHNSON HERE.
THIS IS, SO WE CAN TALK LUANN THIS ONE TO LUANNE AND LARRY, JUST MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT MY, MY LINES ARE PROPER AND CORRECT, UH, WITHIN
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A HUNDRED FEET.UH, I, I, THIS, THIS, UH, THIS MAP IS SO THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, MR. JOHNSON'S TALKING ABOUT.
UM, HE HAD ASKED THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE COMMISSIONER COURT, UM, AND I HAVE PROOF PUTTING IT ON THE COURT SO THAT HE CAN MAKE THE PRESENTATION FOR US.
UH, SO I LET, I PROVIDED THE COURT WITH A COPY, AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING OF COUNTRY CLUB SHORES TOO.
AND ALSO, UH, THE DRAWING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AT THE SIXTIES THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A, AN ADDITION THAT HAS BEEN BUILT ON AND UP SINCE ABOUT 1968 OR NINE.
IT STARTED, AND MOST ALL THE LOTS ARE NOW BUILT ON OR HAVE BEEN, UH, PART OF A, OF ANOTHER LOT.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TWO, TWO LOTS, SOME HAVE ONE AND A HALF, SOME HAVE ONE.
AND ALTOGETHER THIS WAS DEVELOPED TO BE A DEAD END STREET, UH, WITH THE INTENTION THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE AND SECURE FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
NOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IS WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS THE RANCH AT CEDAR CREEK LAKE THAT I BELIEVE WAS HIS, THE DEVELOPER IS RICHARD GOLAN.
I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW MANY, UH, INVESTORS THAT HE HAS, OR I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS ANY.
BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT CAME IN, IT WAS PART OF THE OLD BRUCE GENCO LAND YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED, UH, SOME OF THAT LAND AND WE NOW OWN RIGHT UP TO WHERE THE, UH, RANCH STARTS.
AND, UH, THE PERSON THAT BROKERED THE DEAL WAS TRACY NOW, WHO AT THE TIME WAS A DIRECTOR OF THE COUNTRY CLUB.
AND, UH, WHEN HE DID THAT, HE EVIDENTLY COMMITTED TO MR. GOEN THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EXTENSION OF BRIARWOOD, WHICH WOULD RUN UP, RUN OVER AND CONNECT WITH, UH, THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
AND HE, UH, RECUSED HIMSELF FROM VOTING AT THE DIRECTOR'S MEETING.
BUT HE STAYED IN AND, UH, SPOKE UP FOR MR. GOA.
NOW, NO ONE FROM THE COUNTRY CLUB CONTACTED THE RESIDENTS OF BRIARWOOD OR HELD A TOWN HALL MEETING OR ANYTHING.
THEY JUST FLAT DID IT, WHICH AFFECTS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT ALSO CAN AFFECT THE VALUE OF, OF THE PROPERTY.
PEOPLE WANT A QUIET, DEAD END STREET TO BUILD ON AND LIVE ON.
NOW, WHEN I TALKED TO MR. NOW, FIRST I KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HE SAID, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BOULEVARD IN FRONT OF, FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE DOWN BRIARWOOD.
NOW WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A ROAD THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET.
UH, WE HAVE A CULVERT THAT RUNS DOWN THE DITCH THAT IS 87 FEET LONG, JUST THE CULVERT ITSELF.
AND IF YOU COUNT THE LEAD INS TO IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, UH, EACH OF 'EM WOULD'VE ABOUT ABOUT SIX MORE FEET IN TOTAL.
AND IT JUST RUNS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE ROAD SO THAT THEY COULD COME UP ON COUNTRY CLUB PROPERTY AND, AND CONNECT WITH BROADWAY.
IS THAT CULVER RIGHT HERE? IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I HAVE SOME PICTURES THAT SHOWS THE CULVER.
THERE'S A, YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING HERE.
UH, WELL, I TOOK SOME PICTURES.
I, I ONE WITH, THIS IS IN ESSENCE WHERE IT'S AT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU SEE THE GREEN OUTLINES THE CITY OF MAYBANK ON, UH, THE RANCH AT CEDAR CREEK.
AND OVER AT THE LEFT LIGHTHOUSE LANDING.
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BINS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CEDAR CREEK THERE IS PROBABLY THREE BLOCKS LONG.IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE ETJ OF MAYBANK JUST TOTALLY OVERLAP THE WHOLE COUNTRY FUND.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ETJ APPLIES ONLY TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, NOT NOT TO ROADS OR TO EXTEND THE ROAD, UH, BUT IN ANY CASE, WITH THIS ROAD BEING IN THERE, THERE'S ABOUT A, WELL, IT'S A 33 FOOT OPENING GOING INTO MAYBANK FROM THE COUNTRY CLUB.
NOW THAT'S 600 FEET IS NO MAN'S LAND SHERIFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.
CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.
AND WHAT WE HAVE IS PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THERE.
NOW, COMING DOWN, BRIARWOOD IS APPROXIMATELY A THIRD OF A MILE, AND THEY JUST OPENED IT UP.
CARS ARE 1 50, 60 MILE AN HOUR DOWN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEED LIMIT SIGNS IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY CLUB.
I DROVE AROUND SATURDAY LOOKING FOR 'EM.
I FOUND TWO THAT SAID 30 MILES AN HOUR IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY CLUB DIVISION.
NOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS LITTLE J SHAPED ROAD RIGHT HERE.
IT'S AN, IT RUNS FROM BRIARWOOD OVER TO, AND EXTENDS INTO MAYBANK.
AND THAT LITTLE JS SHAPED ROAD WAS NEVER APPROVED BY ANYBODY.
AND CERTAINLY NOT BY THE RESIDENTS.
THE, THE BOARD AND, AND THE CLUB MANAGER GOT TOGETHER AND MADE DEALS WITH, UH, MR. GOEN THAT NONE OF US ARE AWARE OF AND WE'RE NOT AWARE OF UNTIL HE ACTUALLY STARTED.
NOW, I HAD TALKED TO, UH, COMMISSIONER DELLER ABOUT IT A YEAR OR SO AGO.
AND AT THAT TIME, MR. DELLER WAS DEAD SET AGAINST.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS CHANGED, BUT, UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CULVERT WAS DOWN THERE.
THERE WAS HEAVY EQUIPMENT DOWN THERE.
YOU KNOW, ONE TIME MR. GALLER SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT I HAVE AUTHORITY ON, ON BRIARWOOD, IT'S COUNTY ROAD.
AND WE HAD ASKED HIM TO BARRICADE IT.
AND AT ONE TIME HE INDICATED HE, HE WOULD, THEN HE LATER CHANGED HIS MIND SAYS IT CAN'T.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO ASK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO BARRICADE THAT ROAD SO THAT PEOPLE FROM BRIARWOOD CANNOT DRIVE AN AUTOMOBILE DOWN THERE.
NOW, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN BRIARWOOD, I'VE TALKED TO, MOST ALL OF THEM HAVE NO OBJECTION.
AND ONCE, UH, ONCE THERE'S A FEW HOUSES BACK THERE THAT THE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO BRING A GOLF CART THROUGH AND CONNECT WITH COUNTRY CLUB PROPERTY.
NOW, AT ONE POINT IN THE ROAD, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE PICTURES ARE, BUT IT'LL SHOW THAT IT'S 17 FEET FROM THE ANSWER OF THE, OF THE NEW ROAD, WHATEVER IT'S GONNA BE CALLED.
NO NAME BROTHER MUST USE TO THE CART PATH ON THE COUNTRY CLUB.
WE WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTIONS OF PEOPLE BUILD BACK THERE THAT ARE CLUB MEMBERS, HAVE GOLF CARTS, PARTICIPATE IN THE CLUB ACTIVITIES AS FAR AS DINING OR PLAYING GOLF IF THEY BRING A GOLF CART THROUGH THERE.
BUT WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW IS WE, THERE HAS BEEN A GROUP OF MOTORCYCLES THROUGH THERE THAT I'VE SEEN HAIR TOUGH LOOKING GUYS.
THEY MAY NOT BE THAT TOUGH, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT SCARY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THEIR EIGHTIES.
AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON BRIARWOOD THAT ARE IN THEIR EIGHTIES AND EARLY NINETIES.
ONE IN THEIR, I THINK ONE IS 96.
AND, UH, THERE'S NO HOUSES BACK IN THAT.
THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR THE ROAD BECAUSE MR. GOHAN HAS PUT IN A NICE ROAD IN THAT SUBDIVISION, AND HE'S GOT A NICE ENTRANCE OFF OF 40 22, WHICH IS A, NOW A CITY STREET OF MAYBANK.
BUT, UH, NO ONE TALKED TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO OR PLANNED TO DO.
IT WAS JUST, WE'RE GONNA DO IT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
NOW, MR. GOEN, FIRST I KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING BACK THERE.
HE WAS BACK HERE MOVING ALL KINDS OF DIRT.
AND I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER ER ABOUT IT.
HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
SO I CALLED THE, UH, THE, UH, ENGINEERS 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE A PERMIT FOR ANYTHING.
SO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS MAY PAID HIM A VISIT.
NOW, WHAT HAPPENED THERE? I HAVE NO IDEA.
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BUT THE FRESH WATER PEOPLE CAME OVER BECAUSE HE WAS MOVING DIRT, HAD NO SILK FENCES TO PROTECT THE LAKE OR ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.SO THEY CAME IN, THAT WAS IN A, IN A WILDLIFE, UH, RESERVE, UH, MOSTLY FOR BIRDS BECAUSE ALL KINDS OF BIRDS NESTED THERE.
AND THE NATIONAL DUCK HUNTERS ASSOCIATION HAD BOXES ON HIS PROPERTY IN THE LOW LYING AREA FOR WOOD DUCKS THAT THEY HAD BUILT.
SO I CALLED THE STATE, UH, FISH AND GAME AND WILDLIFE, AND THEY CAME OUT AND I, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, SILT FENCES APPEARED, UH, CHANGES IN, IN WHAT HE WAS DOING TOOK PLACE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE ENGINEERS CAUSED THAT OR NOT, BUT IT WAS JUST A, I GOT A BULLDOZER AND I HAD SOME HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
AND, AND THE CLUB, THE BOARD DIRECTORS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB WERE NAIVE ENOUGH TO LET HIM DO THAT.
SO NOW THEY'VE GOT A BIG MOSQUITO INFESTED AREA JUST OFF THE CLUB PROPERTY BETWEEN THE CLUB PROPERTY AND HIM AND AN OLD USED TO BE AN OLD POND JUST RUN OFF FROM DRAINAGE WATER.
BUT ANYWAY, PEOPLE IN BRIGHTWOOD HAVE NO OBJECTION WHATSOEVER OF HIM BUILDING HOMES BACK THERE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE HOMES HE PROPOSES TO BUILD ARE GOOD, UH, AND WOULD BE AN ASSET TO ANY COMMUNITY.
AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH HIM.
BUT WE DO NOT WANT THE ROAD WHERE THEY CAN DRIVE DOWN THROUGH THERE AT 50, 60 MILES AN HOUR.
WE'RE IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW A LOW CRIME RATE.
SO THE SHERIFF RARELY, IF EVER SENDS ANYBODY OUT THERE, AND HE'S THE ONLY GUY THAT'S GOT ANY AUTHORITY IS, IS THE SHERIFF.
AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CHIEF DEPUTY AND HE TELLS ME HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO MAKE REGULAR, UH, CHECKS, YOU KNOW, DAILY, UH, THROUGH THERE.
AND, UH, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, WHEN WE HAVE THE MOST CRIME OUT THERE IS WHEN WE'RE BUILDING.
AND PEOPLE WILL COME THROUGH SEEING IF THE, IF THE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE HOMES HAVE LAID THEIR TOOLS OUT OR LOCK THEM OUT AND THEY WILL DISAPPEAR, THEY HAVE DISAPPEARED.
UH, OF COURSE, IF THEY SEE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE, THEY'VE STOLEN TRAILERS AND LAWNMOWERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOBODY'S BROKEN INTO A HOUSE, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE FEAR.
AND, UH, THE ROAD GIVES 'EM A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
NOW, THERE'S A BIG ARTICLE IN THE PAPER HERE THAT'S IN THE MONITOR AND I BROUGHT IT IN AND IT SAYS THAT THEY'VE GOT 7,000 FEET OF WATERFRONT, 3,500 FEET OF GOLF COURSE, UH, LOTS THAT THEY COULD BUILD THAT MANY.
AND ALSO SAYS IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY.
AND I CHECKED YESTERDAY AND I DIDN'T SEE A GATED ANYWHERE OTHER THAN, UH, FARM GATES WHERE HE HAD BARB WAR FENCES OUT THERE IN THE AREAS THAT HE HADN'T DEVELOPED.
SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IS A TIME BOMB IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THAT ROAD SOONER OR LATER, THAT'S GONNA GIVE, UH, A THIEF A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
THERE'S NOT A HOUSE OUT THERE.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY LIGHTS WHEN I WENT THROUGH IT YESTERDAY.
UH, IT'S JUST A PERFECT ESCAPE AVENUE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY SHOULD APPLY TO THIS IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT.
AND YOUR HONOR, AND I CHECKED ON THE, ON THE THING IN THE COURTHOUSE WHERE IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND UH, THERE WAS, THE PLAT OVER THERE IS THE SAME ONE THAT YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF.
NOW THE CITY OF MAYBANK HAS STOOD ON ITS EAR FOR MR. GOLD.
IF I WERE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF MAYBANK, I WOULD BE ONE MAD SON OF A GUN FOR THEM USING MY TAXES ON SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EVER, YOU KNOW, UH, BE OF ANY BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY.
THEY TORE UP OUR ROAD FOR A YEAR.
THEY HAD SENSOR REPAIR IT COMING IN, BUT IT'S JUST BEEN A BAD ARRANGEMENT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY CLUB AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS OUR DISTRICT IS CONCERNED.
NOW, IF YOU TALK TO THE CLUB MANAGER WHO'S
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AN AVID GOLFER AND SOME OF THE GOLFERS, THEY THINK IT'S WONDERFUL 'CAUSE THEY NEED THE MONEY.AND THEY'VE GIVEN A MEMBERSHIP BOTH IN LIGHTHOUSE LANDING AND IN THE, UH, RANCH AT CEDAR CREEK.
ANYBODY THAT BUYS A LOT AND BUILDS A HOUSE OVER THERE HAS A COMPLIMENTARY MEMBERSHIP GIVEN TO THEM, WHICH I NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THE COURT IS ONLY WHAT THE INITIATIVE, THE INITIATION FEE WOULD BE IF THEY PLAY GOLF AND THEY GIVE 'EM A MEMBERSHIP.
THAT WOULD BE LIKE A $500 GIFT.
BUT THEY HAVE TO PICK UP DUES.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE, WELL, LARRY CAN TELL US LATER, I BELIEVE THE DUES ARE $178 A MONTH AND THAT'S WHAT THE CLUB'S AFTER.
AND, UH, IF YOU'RE A SOCIAL MEMBER, THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, INITIATION FEE AND I BELIEVE IT'S $85 A MONTH NOW.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE ATTRACTION FROM THE CLUB.
BUT, UH, SO FAR I DIDN'T SEE ANY LOTS SOLD.
UH, THEY HAVE DROPPED THE PRICE ORIGINALLY.
THEY STARTED OUT ABOUT 45,000, AND THOSE SAME LOTS NOW ARE DOWN TO 25,000.
AND, UH, SO I DON'T THINK THE PROJECT IS GOING IS MEETING EXPECTATIONS, BUT WHAT IT'S DONE TO THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN NEGATIVE ALL THE WAY.
AND IF THEY WANT TO REPL IT AND COME BACK TO EVERYBODY AND ASK THEM TO GO ALONG WITH IT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO.
BUT TO JUST BULLDOZE IT AND SAY, I GOT A BIGGER PIECE OF MACHINERY YOU HAVE, UH, AND I'M GONNA DO IT AND YOU CAN LIKE IT OR LUMP IT IS NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT THE WAY HE TREATS SENIOR CITY.
AND ON BRIARWOOD, THE AVERAGE AGE ON BRIARWOOD IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 65 AND 70.
I'M 73 AND I'M ON THE UNDERWOOD.
SO WHAT WE WOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO DO IS TO BARRICADE THE ROAD AT THE END OF, OF BRIARWOOD IS BARRICADE IT.
WE WOULD'VE NO OBJECTIONS IF THEY WOULD, UH, WHERE THE 33 FOOT OPENING GOING INTO MAYBANK TO CONNECT TO THE MAYBANK STREET FROM THIS NO, NO-NAME ROAD.
IF THEY WOULD NARROW IT DOWN TO FOUR AND A HALF FEET, THAT WOULD STOP THE FOUR WHEELERS.
BUT YET ALLOW GOLF CARTS TO GO THROUGH GOLF CART IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN FOUR FEET.
SO THEY COULD GET THROUGH THERE IF THEY WANTED TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO PLAY GOLF.
BUT WE HAD ARAF OF FOUR WHEELERS, THESE ATVS JUST GOING WIDE OPEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST TO GO, BUT THEY GO PRETTY FAST.
AND FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE OUT WALKING, HAVING THEIR PETS OUT IN THE YARD, IF THEY RAN OUT IN THE STREET, UH, Y'ALL KNOW THE VALUE OF THE PET.
AND WHEN YOU'RE OUR AGE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE RUNNING OVER YOUR CHILD.
SO WHAT I'M HERE TODAY, UH, IS TO ASK THE COURT TO BARRICADE THE ROAD, UH, AT THE END OF BRIARWOOD BECAUSE IT'S RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH UNDERNEATH THE, UH, ELECTRIC WIRES.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I PROVIDED YOU, YOU'LL SEE AT, AT THE END OF BRIARWOOD WHERE IT MAKES THE JOB TO THE RIGHT AND GOES UP, THERE'S A LIGHT POLE THERE.
IF SOMEBODY HITS THAT LIGHT POLE, IT'LL KNOCK THE ELECTRICITY OUT FOR AT LEAST ON OUR STREET AND MAYBE MOST THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THERE'S A TOTAL 10 OR 11 PICTURES THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU TODAY FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
WELL, JUDGE, IS THAT CORRECT THAT, UH, MAYBANKS CTJ ONLY APPLIES TO SUBDIVISION? THAT THAT WOULD, IN YOUR OPINION, DOES THAT NOT APPLY HERE? IN MY OPINION, THE, UH, WE HAVE A, AN AGREEMENT WITH MAYBANK THAT THEY WILL REGULATE THE SUBDIVISIONS IN THEIR ETJ AND UH, UH, AND TO THAT EXTENT, MR. JOHNSON'S CORRECT.
UH, I DON'T THINK, UH, IF IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY OVER.
UH, SOMETHING IN THEIR ETJ OTHER THAN, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THIS.
WELL, YOU MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING THAT'S ON PRIVATE LAND,
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THAT ROAD IS ON PRIVATE LAND OWNED BY SEA CREEK COUNTRY CLUB.LARRY LEMME YEAH, YOU'RE GETTING LARRY UP HERE.
LET ME SHOW, UH, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL OF COUNTRY CLUB SHORES EDITION NUMBER TWO, AND THIS IS THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THIS BEING SO RIGHT HERE, WHAT ROAD IS THIS YOU CAN SEE ON HERE? YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS, DOES BAYBANK HAVE A THOROUGH FAIR PLAN? AND I KNOW COFFIN COUNTY DOES, BUT IS, BRO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS BRIARWOOD ON OUR, IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT A CONNECTOR, OUR PLAN, WHAT DO WE DECIDE, DECIDE IT'S GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE? 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T, IF IT'S NOT ON DIRT FAIR PLAN, YOU CAN'T TURN IT INTO, YOU CAN'T PUT A BUNCH MORE TRAFFIC IN IT IF IT'S ONLY INTENDED TO BE A, UH, DEAD END NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD.
LET, UH, LET ME EMPHASIZE ONE OTHER THING.
THE ONLY WAY THROUGH THAT IS TO COME THROUGH THE CLUB PARKING LOT, WHICH WE HAD A ROAD, IT WAS AN KNOWN AS, UH, TOGGLE BOULEVARD WHEN WE BUILT THE NEW COUNTRY CLUB.
THE, UH, DIRECTORS DIDN'T LIKE THAT, SO THEY CHANGED IT AND THEY JUST CLOSED THAT ROAD.
SO BRIARWOOD ACTUALLY RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOAT, LANDING AREA UP OVER A HILL, WHICH IS A BLIND HILL.
YOU CANNOT SEE, UH, IN THE MORNINGS, IF YOU COME UP OVER THAT HILL, YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT DIRECTLY INTO THE SUNRISE.
AND IN THE EVENING, IF YOU'RE GOING OVER THE HILL GOING WEST, YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT INTO THE SUNSET.
AND, UH, MR. DI IS WELL AWARE OF THAT AS WELL AS LARRY.
IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE TO CHANNEL TRAFFIC.
NOW THE OTHER THING IS RIGHT UP COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE, THEY HAVE BUILT HOUSES AND THEY'VE BUILT MAILBOXES ON COUNTY PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
AND IF YOU'RE DRIVING AN SUV, I HAVE A TAHOE, IF I MEET JIM AND HE HAS THE THE COUNTY TRUCK, WE COULD SWAP MIRRORS IF WE'RE NOT VERY CAREFUL.
LET'S, YEAH, LET'S TRY TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
BUT THIS CHANNEL'S TRAFFIC UP THROUGH THERE UNNECESSARILY.
HERE'S THE OVERALL, THAT'S IT CUT ABOVE, UH, LAYOUT.
AND THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT HERE IN THIS LAST YEAH, BUT THAT'S, ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY THEN? WELL, THE, AS FAR ROAD IS GOOD AS PRIVATE PROPERTY BELONGS TO THE COUNTRY TRUCK.
NOW, WHEN MR. JOHNSON AND I VISITED, I DID NOT GIVE HIM LEGALLY ADVICE THAT I EXPLAINED TO HIM.
IT, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT ONCE THE SUBDIVISION'S FLAT HAS BEEN FILED AND APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND AFTER LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD IN THAT SUBDIVISION, THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT SUBDIVISION CAN BE, UH, MODIFIED IS WITH AN AGREEMENT OF ALL THE PERSONS IN THAT SUBDIVISION PLUS THEN BRING THE MODIFICATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THE PROBLEM THAT I VOICED TO MR. JOHNSON THAT I SAW HERE, NUMBER ONE IS IT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENFORCE THAT.
IT'S THE LANDOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND I TOLD HIM THAT HE MIGHT HAVE TO GET AN ATTORNEY TO SEE IF THEY DID IN FACT MODIFY THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT BECAUSE IT'S ON PRIVATE LAND AND NOT THE PLAT ITSELF.
UH, YOU'RE SPEAKING, THAT'S, YOU'RE SPEAKING OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN ON BRIARWOOD, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT THAT IS MAYBANK, THAT'S IN THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
THAT'S NOT COUNTY, NOT BRIARWOOD.
OH, YEAH, IT DOES NOT, NO, BUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH MAYBANK, IS ANY OF THAT PROPERTY THERE RANCH IT, CEDAR? YEAH.
THAT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH CEDAR CREEK COUNTRY CLUB PLAT.
AND THE ROAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAT OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S, IT PUTS TRAFFIC ON COUNTY ROAD.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE COUNTY HAS IS TO
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MAINTAIN BRIARWOOD, UH, IN ESSENCE AUTHORIZE, UH, A CUL THAT, THAT MR. JOHNSON ALLUDED TO.UM, NOW AFTER WE GET OFF THIS COUNTY EASEMENT, I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BECAUSE IT'S EITHER BETWEEN THE COUNTRY CLUB, MR. HARPER OR THE CITY OF MAYBANK, THE
AND THAT'S WHERE MY HANDS ARE TIED.
WELL, YOU CAN DO ALL THE DIRT WORK, PUT ALL THE DRIVEWAYS ON YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY YOU WANT TO ABSOLUTELY.
AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT SUBDIVIDING PROPERTY.
ALL THIS IS, IS A, IS A, IN ESSENCE, WHEN WE STARTED THE DISCUSSION, IT WAS A DRIVEWAY, BUT WE KNOW WHAT THE DRIVEWAY IS NOW.
UH, AND, AND THE REST OF IT IS WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY IN, IN THIS ISSUE.
I'M SURE THIS WAS FILED WITH THE CITY OF MAYBANK, WASN'T IT? THE RANCH AT CEDAR CREEK? YES.
YEAH, IT'S IN FACT, IT JUST IN THE MONITOR A COUPLE DAYS AGO THAT THE FINAL APPROVAL WAS GIVEN.
AND AT THE TIME, MAYBANK HAD ALREADY ANNEXED THE RANCH AT CEDAR CREEK.
SO THE ETJ TOOK ME COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PICTURE, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AUTHORIZING THAT ROAD, THAT ROAD, I THINK MR. HARPER WENT TO, UH, COME HERE TO THE COURTHOUSE AND PAID $75 FOR A, FOR A CULDER PERMIT.
BUT IT'S STILL IN MAY BAG, CTJ.
BUT IS IT IS NOT A SUBDIVISION, IT'S JUST A CULDER.
IS IT JUST BETWEEN A COUNTRY CLUB AND MR. GOINS THEN? I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT HE FALLS DOWN? IT'S BETWEEN, IT'S ACTUALLY BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND MR. HARPER AND OF THE COUNTRY CLUB.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD? YEAH, THE ROAD.
THE ROAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COUNTY, BUT THAT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THAT'S, BUT COMES SAYING IS THE ROAD BETWEEN MR. HARPER AND THE COUNTRY CLUB AND MR. GOINS.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ROAD IS BETWEEN IS THAT CITY OF ABANK? WE, WE NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING WITH MR. HARPER.
MR. HARPER IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTRY CLUB.
HE IS THE CLUB MANAGER AND THE DIRECTOR OF GOLF.
HE HAS NO INVESTMENT THERE WHATSOEVER AND COULD BE TERMINATED AT THE SURE.
BUT HE'S SPEAKING FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB, I GUESS.
CORRECT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS IS THE WAY I SEE IT.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU SEE AS THE INTENT OF THAT LITTLE JOG, THAT'S A DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S THE WAY WE TOOK THE DRIVEWAY.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO GO CLOSE SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY BEYOND, BEYOND.
WE CAN SEE NOW WHAT THE INTENT IS.
BUT WHEN HE GOT A CULVERT PERMIT FOR A DRIVEWAY, BUT UNTIL THEY TAKE THE NEXT STEP, START SELLING OFF LOTS, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
BUT THEY BANK IS GONNA HAVE TO COME WORK WITH THE COUNTY.
IF THEY DO APPROVE A SUBDIVISION ON THEIR, THEY'RE EITHER GONNA HAVE TO ANNEX THAT LITTLE PIECE OR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET US TO, WE HAVE NO, THAT'S BETWEEN THE CITY OF MAYBANK AND THE COUNTRY CLUB.
THEY'VE ALREADY, THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED.
THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED SELLING A LOT.
YEAH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN, WELL, THEY NEED TO ANNEX THAT LITTLE PIECE OF CHUNK PROPERTY WHERE THEY ATE.
THAT'S BETWEEN MAYBANK AND THE COUNTRY.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE SOLUTION AS MAYBANK JUST NEEDS.
ANN, IF YOU LOOK UP ON, IF YOU'VE GOT THIS LITTLE MAP, ITS ACTUALLY UPSIDE DOWN THAT BLUE REPRESENTS THE WATER.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU GO UP A LITTLE FARTHER, YOU SEE THERE'S A SPACE JUST BEFORE THE CURB.
THERE IS ABOUT, WE'RE NOT GONNA LIE, 5, 6, 7 LOTS.
UH, THAT IS CONSIDERED A, A SUBDIVISION BY THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
AND HE HAS PLANTED THESE FIVE OR SIX LOTS WAY UP IN THE, AND MAYBANK HAS TOTAL CONTROL OF THAT.
WE ONLY MAINTAIN THE ROADS EASEMENT, EASEMENT, WE TALK BEFORE THAT WAS EVER PUT IN.
SO WE DON'T WANT IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN SAY THIS BETWEEN MAYBANK AND, AND THE COUNTRY CLUB, WHICH I AGREE.
BUT WHAT MR. JOHNSON'S WANTS TO DO IS STOP THE TRAFFIC FROM COMING ONTO A COUNTY ROAD FROM THAT DRIVEWAY.
AND, UH, THE WAY IT'S ON IS WHAT IS THE, THE WAY DOWN.
AND, UH, YOUR HONOR, THAT DRIVEWAY LEADS TO NOTHING BUT A CONNECTION TO THE CITY OF MAYBANK STREET.
IF THEY HAD A HOUSE BACK THERE OR A BUILDING BACK THERE, THEY COULD MAKE ONE THING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE LAW ON THE SPIRIT OF LAW AND THE INTENT OF THE LAW, THE INTENT ALL ON WAS TO CIRCUMVENT THE LAW.
THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A LOOPHOLE TO CONNECT THAT ROAD.
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HONESTLY DON'T SEE THE VALUE OF THAT ROAD TO GET TO GOING.UH, HE'S GOT A NICE ROAD COMING IN FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO LOOK AT IT AND GOING OUT.
AND HE COULD PUT A GATE OUT THERE LIKE LIGHTHOUSE LANDING AND NOT JEOPARDIZE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON BRIARWOOD.
SO THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ENTRANCE.
A NICE DOUBLE WIDE ENTRANCE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE, WHICH HE HAD THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC COMING OUT THIS WAY.
THE TRAFFIC WAS BLOCKED TO THE CITY STREET AND OUT TO 1 7 5.
THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE IS OVER AT THE END OF ORANGE BLOSSOM.
HE, HE BOUGHT THAT THEN, UH, HE, UH, HE CAME TO THE CITY OF MAYBANK AND HAD THEM GO TO JIM TO ANNEX 40 22 AND I BELIEVE 40 21.
AND THE ROAD THAT LEADS DOWN IN THERE WHERE HE PUT HIS ROAD LED TO NOWHERE THAT THING'S BEEN CLOSED FOR 40 YEARS.
UH, JUDGE, DO YOU THINK WE HAVE THE COUNTY HAS ANY AUTHORITY TO PUT A A GATE ACROSS THAT DRIVEWAY THING DOWN THERE ON PRIVATE IF THAT ISN'T IN EFFECT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? I DON'T THINK SO.
HE'S ASKING FOR BRIARWOOD AND I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE HE'D PUT IT ON BRIARWOOD THAT WOULD NEGATE PEOPLE FROM GOING DOWN THAT LITTLE, THAT LITTLE ROAD IF I PUT IT WHERE THEY WOULD GO DOWN THAT BLOCK OFF THREE HOUSES.
THERE'S A GUY RIGHT ON THE END, UH, WHO WE DIDN'T WANT TO, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BLOCK OFF.
THAT'S WHY IT JUS COMES OUT THE WAY IT DOES.
'CAUSE WE WANTED ACCESS ALL THE WAY TO THAT PERSON'S.
IF YOU BLOCKED OFF THAT ROAD, I GUESS THAT'S TO PREVENT ACCESS TO THE ROAD.
IF THEY HAD, IF THEY HAD PUT THE ROAD IN THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN, IT WOULD'VE RUN STRAIGHT RIGHT IN FRONT OF WILBUR DENNIS'S HOUSE.
NOW WILBUR DENNIS BOUGHT A LOT RIGHT HERE, AND, UH, AND THEN HE MOVED THE HOUSE FORWARD RATHER THAN BACKWARDS.
AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, DEVASTATING TO HIM.
I MEAN, REALLY, HE JUST, HE JUST, UH, THOUGHT NOBODY HAD EVER COME THROUGH THERE.
AND, UH, AND SO HE ENDED UP, IT'S BEEN A REAL PAIN FOR HIM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER, I SAY I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONERS HAS AUTHORITY TO TELL THE CITY OF MAYBANK HOW THEY COULD CLOSE THE ROAD OFF OVER THERE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS CERTAINLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CLOSE IT OFF WHERE IT COMES ONTO BRIARWOOD AND, UH, NOBODY BUT THE CLUB USES THAT OR SHOULD USE THAT.
AND THAT WILL PRETTY WELL PROTECT US.
NOW, THE CITY OF MAYBANK, IF YOU ALL CLOSE THAT ROAD, THEN THERE WILL BE A PLAN DOWN AT CITY HALL FOR THEM TO CLOSE THAT OFF OVER THERE.
AND WE, WE CAN GIVE 'EM A CHOICE, EITHER CLOSE IT AND LEAVE AN OPENING FOR GOLF CARTS OR CLOSE IT ENTIRELY, AND WE CAN TAKE THEM TO COURT, I BELIEVE, AND, UH, GET THAT RELIEF, UH, BEFORE I WOULD RECOMMEND, OR THAT THE COUNTY PUT A BLOCK ON THAT TO STOP TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE COUNTY ROAD.
I THINK YOU'LL GET A LEGAL OPINION.
JIM, BEFORE WE PURSUE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM, FROM THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY HAD THE AUTHORITY, UH, ONLY AUTHORITY WE HAVE HEAR FROM THEM.
THIS IS CULVERT, UH, FROM THAT POINT ON, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH LARRY HARPER CAN, AND IT'S IN THE ETJ.
AND ANN CON CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, I, I'M NOT GONNA OVERSTEP MY AUTHORITY.
I'M NOT GONNA INTENTIONALLY, MR. HARPER, YOU WANT TO SPEAK A FEW WORDS', NOT THERE.
PLEASE LET EVERYBODY SEE WHAT A PARK OFFER LOOKS LIKE.
UM, I KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ON IT.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE AREAS IN STATEMENTS.
UM, ONE IS WHEN TRACY NOW FIRST BROUGHT THIS, UH, HE DID NOT COMMIT THE CLUB TO ANYTHING.
UH, HE BASICALLY BROUGHT THAT JUST LIKE ANY MEMBER COULD BRING TO THE CLUB OR THE BOARD A REQUEST, AND HE ASKED THE BOARD OF DIRECTOR TO REVIEW THE CHANCES OF GRANTING AN EASEMENT, INGRESS, AND INGRESS ACROSS THAT PROPERTY.
THE BOARD DID SOME RESEARCH ON IT, ASKED SOME QUESTIONS, DID NOT SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
UH, HE DIDN'T RECUSE HIMSELF FROM ANY TYPE OF VOTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT HE DID, HE WAS LING IN IN OFFERING INFORMATION AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE FINAL RESULTS WOULD BE,
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ONE OF 'EM IS, UM, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AS JIM ALLUDED TO IT, IT WAS MEANT AS A DRIVEWAY.AND I STILL BELIEVE IT PROBABLY IS ONLY BECAUSE THE INTENTION IS TO PUT A GATE AT THE NORTH END AND THE SOUTH END AS FAR AS ACCESS OR JUST THOSE PEOPLE THERE.
UM, OF COURSE IT IS STILL, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS ONLY DEVELOPED A FEW OF THE LOTS, UH, THAT WERE, THAT ARE PLANNED.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TAKING FOREVER, BUT IT'S JUST A SLOW MOVING.
UM, ALSO AS FAR AS, UH, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, I MEAN, WE PUT REGULAR NOTICES IN THE NEWSLETTER ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE OF WHAT WAS BEING DONE.
UH, AS THE
AND WE'VE BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD ABOUT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, THE, UH, AND BELIEVE THE CLUB HAS NO INTENTION IN CERTAIN THINGS.
THE LAW, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE CONTENT TENSION WAS THAT HE WAS ASKING FOR SOME TYPE OF ACCESS FROM THE PROPERTY THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE TO THE CLUB, UH, WHERE THEY COULD COME UP AND HAVE DINNER FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND, UH, AND, AND THE CLUB SAW THAT AS A, AS A BONUS AND, AND FELT LIKE THAT WOULD MAKE A GOOD, UH, A GOOD MOVE FOR US OVERALL.
UH, WE DO OFFER, UH, MEMBERSHIPS, UH, SOCIAL MEMBERSHIPS, WHICH ARE VALUED AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO RESIDENTS THERE.
AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO ACTIVATE THEM WITHIN ONE YEAR, AND THE DUES ON THOSE ARE $80 A MONTH.
UH, IF THEY WANT TO UPGRADE TO A GOLFING TYPE MEMBERSHIP, THEN THEY PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, UH, SOCIAL MEMBERSHIP AND WHATEVER TYPE OF GOLF MEMBERSHIP THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, YOU KNOW, ATVS, THOSE HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN THE ROAD THERE QUITE A BIT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT'S HAD A WHOLE LOT INFLUENCE ON THAT.
I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN UP AND DOWN THERE, THEY GO UP AND DOWN A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE STREETS OVER THERE AND IT'S, IT'S A CONCERN.
WE USUALLY TRY TO PUT NOSES IN THE NEWSLETTER ANYWHERE FROM, UH, THREE TO FIVE TIMES A YEAR, JUST CAUTIONING PARENTS NOT TO LET THEIR KIDS JUST GO CRAZY ON THE ROADS OUT THERE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, UH, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS FOR 'EM.
UM, SOMETIMES I THINK THEY LET 'EM GO AND, AND DON'T REALLY, THEY, THEY ASSUME THAT THEY'RE OBEYING WHATEVER THEY'RE TOLD TO DO, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT.
THEY HAVE CONTROL ONCE THEY COME ON CLUB PROPERTY.
SO WE TRY TO KEEP OFF OF THAT.
UM, THAT, THAT WAS ONE QUESTION THERE.
UH, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, I, MY MY QUESTION WOULD BE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT, THAT, JIM, YOU PROBABLY LOOKED AT THAT PRETTY CAREFULLY AS FAR AS HOW THAT THE WHOLE THING WORKS AROUND, UH, THE TURNER FAIR PLAN.
IT'S NOT INDICATED IN A SUBDIVISION.
IT WOULDN'T, THAT DOESN'T EVEN, DOESN'T EVEN HOLD WELL, ARE YOU SAYING THERE'LL BE GATES THERE SOMEWHERE? THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TOLD.
UH, THERE'LL BE A GATE AT THE FRONT.
THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING GONNA MAN THE GATES OR IF THEY'RE GONNA BE ELECTRONICALLY OPENED OR, OR WHAT KIND OF GATE THEY'RE GONNA PUT ON THERE YET.
WELL, WOULD THAT HELP YOU ALL? ANY DO YOU THINK? NO, THE, UH, AS FAR AS THE ATVS ARE CONCERNED, 90% OF THE PEOPLE THAT RIDE THE AT ATVS OR ADULTS, IT'S NOT KIDS.
THERE'S A LITTLE OLD GO-KART OUT THERE THAT A COUPLE OF GIRLS HAVE BEEN RIDING.
I THINK WE PUT A STOP TO THAT.
BUT THE ADULTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, DEER HUNTING, HUNTING TYPE VEHICLES, AND THEY GET OUT THERE AND HAVE A BEER OR TWO AND GET THEIR HAT TURNED BACKWARDS AND BOOM, DOWN THE ROAD THEY GO.
BUT IF THERE WERE A GATE THERE OVER THE ROAD, THAT WOULD, WOULDN'T THAT IMPEDE THE, THE SPEED OF THE TRAFFIC SOUND COMING WHERE, I MEAN, DIS REQUIRE A TV, THE REGULAR CAR TRAFFIC AND TRUCK TRAFFIC? WOULD THAT NOT, IT SHOULD SLOW THAT DOWN SOUND IF IT WERE LOCKED, WHAT THE INTENTION IS, UH, THE WAY THAT, THAT IT WAS PRESENTED, THE INTENTION IS THAT IT WOULD BE A ROAD FOR THE RESIDENCE THERE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME INTO THE CLUB.
IT'S NOT MEANT AS EVER A THOROUGHFARE FOR GOING FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.
WHO ELSE DID YOU SAY? WHO ELSE DID YOU SAY ANN CONFER? THE MANAGER OF THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, THE CITY DID ANNEX THE, THE RANCH, THE PROPERTY OVER HERE IN THE GREEN ALL THE WAY UP TO 40 22.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY, THEY, UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND FINAL PLAT HAD BEEN APPROVED.
THEY ARE IN, WELL, THEY'RE IN A CITY, UH, THEY HAVE A GATE.
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WILL HAVE A GATE UP HERE ON 40 22 AND THEY WILL HAVE A GATE DOWN HERE.SO ONLY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THOSE WILL BE ELECTRONIC GATES LIKE THEY HAVE AT LIGHTHOUSE LANDING.
NOW, LIGHTHOUSE LANDING HAS BEEN OUT THERE TWO YEARS, AND THEY HAVE ONLY RECENTLY GOTTEN THEIR DATA.
AND SO IF YOU GO IN OUT THERE, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE CODE TO PUNCH IN TO GET INTO DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S, IT'S THE CITY'S OPINION THAT THIS CROSS CONNECTION IS A GOOD THING FOR FIRE PROTECTION AND POLICE PROTECTION PURPOSES.
AND ALSO THE CITY HAS WATER IN THIS SUBDIVISION.
THE COUNTRY CLUB HAS THEIR OWN WATER SUPPLY.
AND THIS WILL, THIS EASEMENT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO A CROSS CONNECTION SO THAT IF THE COUNTRY CLUB RAN OUT OF WATER FOR SOME REASON, THEY COULD STILL GET BACK FED.
SO, UH, AND, AND I HEARD MR. JOHNSON'S DESCRIPTION OF HOW YOU GET OUT ON BRIARWOOD, AND IF I LIVED IN THIS SUBDIVISION, I DON'T KNOW WHY I WOULD GO ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO COME BACK NORTH.
NOW, YOU COULD GO BACK OUT ON 4 20, 40, 22, RIGHT BACK AT COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE.
I MEAN, I CAN SEE PEOPLE GOING TO THE CLUBHOUSE OR GOING TO PLAY GOLF, BUT WHY THEY WOULD DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD TO COME, COME BACK UP HERE.
WHEN THEY CAN GO STRAIGHT OUT NORTH.
UH, I GUESS SOME PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT.
BUT, UM, SO, UH, AND I REALIZE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAN'T STAY OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY CAN'T GET A DEPUTY THERE QUICKLY, THEY ASK FOR ASSISTANCE FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE ISSUE, THIS IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO I GUESS THE ISSUE IS MAINTENANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON COUNTY PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
UH, AND IF, IF IT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE AND THE COUNTRY CLUB WANTS TO ANNEX THAT LITTLE PIECE, I'M SURE THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER IT.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING THEY WOULD'VE WOULDN'T, BUT, AND THE COUNTRY CLUB IS IN OUR ETJ, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE MAINTAIN ROADWAYS.
IT JUST MEANS THAT, UH, THEY COME BE, IF THEY SUBMIT A SUBDIVISION FLAT, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO US.
AND OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ARE BASED ON LIN COUNTY.
SEE, THE OTHER THING, WHAT, WHAT, UH, SHE'S SAYING IS TRUE AS FAR AS THE COUNTRY CLUB.
NOW THERE'S, SOME OF US HAVE CHARTER MEMBERS.
IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ON THAT AREA OVER THERE, SHERIFF'S NOT RESPONSIBLE.
CITY'S NOT RESPONSIBLE, BUT IT'S ON OUR PROPERTY.
AND WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD BE SUED FOR WHATEVER DAMAGES THAT, UH, OCCURRED TO A, TO AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND AS FAR AS ME USING THAT TO GO OUT, I'M, I'M CONCERNED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT COME ROUND AND ROUND ON THE WEEKENDS OUT THERE JUST LOOKING, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE COUNTRY CLUB.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA TO LIVE.
GOT BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY CLUB GOLF COURSE AND CLUBHOUSE AND LOTS OF PEOPLE USING, WE, WE HAVE, THE OTHER NIGHT WE JUST HAD A WEDDING PARTY AND THERE WAS LIKE 250 PEOPLE THERE.
SO IT, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC, BUT I'M CONCERNED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON BRIARWOOD, UH, FROM THIEVES THAT COME IN HERE FROM DALLAS OR SEVILLE OR HOFFMAN OR TEXARKANA OR WHEREVER THEY WANT TO COME FROM TO PREY ON ELDERLY PEOPLE.
AND THERE IS NO POLICE PROTECTION OUT THERE.
THEY, IT'S AN AFTER THE FACT THAT THEY'LL BE THERE.
AND AS FAR AS FIRE PROTECTION IS CONCERNED ON BRIARWOOD, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, FIRE HYDRANTS ALL UP AND DOWN THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE COUNTRY CLUB NOW.
WE JUST PUT SOME MORE IN AND IF THERE WAS A FIRE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBANK AND, AND UH, AND UH, KEMP OVER THERE WOULD WORK TOGETHER.
WELL, THEY HAVE RECENTLY AND, AND THEY JUST SENT ME DOWNTOWN MAYBANK.
THEY JUST SENT ME THE OTHER DAY WANTING ME TO DONATE MONEY FOR A NEW FIREHOUSE AS YOU COME INTO THE COUNTRY CLUB.
SO, WELL BACK, BACK TO THIS, MR. JOHNSON.
I ONE, I'M NOT SURE THE OPINION SEEMS TO BE THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, TO PUT A GATE ACROSS THERE, BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA PUT A GATE ON EACH END OF IT, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE A COUPLE YEARS
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DOWN THE ROAD, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY IMPEDE THE, UH, LARGE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING.I WOULD THINK, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHAT AUTHORITY WE HAVE IN THIS THING WE COULD CLOSE INTO THROUGH TRAFFIC
WELL, I HAVE PUT NO TRUCK SIGNS, UH, NO THROUGH TRUCK SIGNS BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GOING IN THERE DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
UH, BUT NOW THAT THEY'VE GOT THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE OFF OF 22, IT'S REALLY A NICE ENTRANCE.
I SURE WOULDN'T COME AROUND AND UP OVER TOP BRIARWOOD AND DOWN THERE.
I WOULDN'T GO THAT WAY EITHER.
NO, I'D COME IN OFF THE BOULEVARD.
WOULD ANY, CAN, WOULD ANY, UH, SPEED LIMIT, SIGNS LIMIT HELP ANY IN THERE? I JUST, I DON'T SEE WHAT AUTHORITY WE HAVE TO PUT A GATE ACROSS THERE.
BUT MR. JOHNSON, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T CARE FOR THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON BRIARWOOD.
I MEAN, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK THE COUNTY HAS THE AUTHORITY, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND I HAVE TO AGREE THAT, UH, IF THE RANCH IS GOING TO PUT A ELECTRONIC ADMISSION GATE THERE ON THAT END, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
WELL, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM PUTTING A ELECTRONIC ENTRANCE GATE THERE AND ANOTHER GATE UP THERE AT, UH, WHERE IT JOINS THE COUNTY ROAD? IF, IF HE WOULD PUT THE GATE THERE NOW WITHIN THE NEXT 90 DAYS, PUT THE GATE THERE, THAT WOULD PROTECT US AND THAT THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH, THIEVES COMING THROUGH IF HE, IF HE PUTS THE GATE UP AND LOCKS IT TO WHERE YOU HAVE A COAT, LIKE MANY COMMUNITIES DO.
LIGHTHOUSE LANDING HAS GOT THAT AND THE ROADS LEADING OVER TO THE COUNTRY CUP CLUB, UH, ROGER, TERRY GROOMS HAVE BARRICADED, UH, I THINK ALL OF 'EM HAVE WON.
AND, UH, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE 84 YEARS OLD AND YOU SAY, WELL, IN TWO YEARS I'M GOING TO PUT A GATE THERE, YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, WHAT AM I GONNA DO FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT THE THING IN, PUT THE GATES IN CONTROL, THE TRAFFIC, ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE THERE WILL BE THERE.
THAT WILL LIMIT THE TRAFFIC ON BROADWAY.
DOES IT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO MAKE HIM PUT THAT GATE UP ANY QUICKER THAN HE NORMALLY WOULD? UM, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK TO MR. GOINS AND SEE IF HE CAN, UH, GO AHEAD AND, AND CONSIDER PUTTING THE GATE UP.
I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TELL HIM YOU'VE GOTTA PUT IT UP TODAY, BUT I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK TO HIM AND SEE.
COULD YOU TELL HIM WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT A GATE? WE'LL DO IT.
IF HE DOESN'T
THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL DO IT.
THE THOUGHT THAT CROSSED MY MIND IS NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE TENACITY OF SOMEBODY HUNTING A BETTER FISHING SPOT.
SORRY WE COULDN'T GIVE YOU A MORE, UH, DEFINITIVE, UH, ANSWER.
AND MR. BILL WIND FROM
UH, WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION BID OPENING.
IS IT 10 O'CLOCK? YEAH, IT'S 10 O'CLOCK, ISN'T IT? YES, IT IS, UNFORTUNATELY WE TIME.
NEXT TIME WE HAVE TYLER HENDERSON HERE, WELL SEE THE THING ABOUT THAT, HIS TITLE, WE JUST CAN'T OPEN BEFORE THAT TIME TO BE.
FIRST ON, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, TO OPEN THE BIDS, UH, FOR THE, UH, WATER PROJECT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CHANGE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROUND MOTION.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE THESE TOWEL SHEETS AND I WAS JUST GONNA OPEN THE BID AND LET BILLY WRITE DOWN THEM.
YOU MIGHT LET JACK HAVE A COPY OF IT.
UH, FIRST WE HAVE HOUSLEY COMMUNICATION, UH, ON THE LIST NUMBER FOUR,
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THEN HAVE THE ADDENDUMS. TOTAL BID PRICE IS, UH, $445,138.HOW YOU WANT JUST TELL SHEETS? UH, OKAY.
THE SECOND BID IS, UH, AAA SANITATION BID FIVE.
THEY HAVE THE ADDENDUMS. ALRIGHT, TOTAL BID PRICE FOR AA IS $410,919 AND 40 CENTS.
WE HAVE CUMMINGS CONSTRUCTION OF SPRINGS NUMBER THREE ON ONE.
THEY HAVE THE ADDENDUMS, BUT THE BID PRICE IS 392,000.
NEXT WE HAVE MORE CONSTRUCTION AT JACKSONVILLE.
NUMBER ONE ON THE LEFT, HE HAS A BID BOND.
YEAH, THE ADDENDUMS TOTAL BID PRICE IS $385,615.
LAST IS, UH, BAKER'S CONTRACTING OUTTA CAMP RANDALL.
THEY HAVE A BID BOND KNOWLEDGE, THE ADDENDUM.
TOTAL BID PRICE IS $133,737 50 CENTS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE OUR PARENTAL BIDDER IS MORE CONSTRUCTION OBJECT.
A COPY OF WHAT? BILL ALLY, WHAT WE DO NOW IS GO BACK AND TALLY THE BIZ AND MAKE SURE THEY EDIT EVERYTHING UP RIGHT.
AND IF IT WASN'T A BID THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, WE'D CHECK THE REFERENCES.
IN THIS CASE, WE, SO WE KNOW THEM VERY WELL AND THEN WE'D RECOMMEND TO ELMO AT THEIR MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT THAT THEY AWARDED.
TO WHOEVER THE BUT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THESE PARTS? YES.
AT LEAST A LITTLE BIDDER, MOST OF THEM.
AND WHAT WAS THE TOTAL FOR BAKERS 4 33.
YOU ALMOST DID IT IN DESCENDING ONE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT LAST ONE.
EVERY BID'S A LITTLE BIT LESS.
WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY WITH THOSE RESULTS.
UM, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT THE ESTIMATE WAS.
WE, WE WERE EXPECTING TO BLOW THE ESTIMATE OUT OF THE WATER WITH THE EVER THE PIPES JUST GOING CRAZY.
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BUT, UH, THAT, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT I THINK WE HAVE, SO.RECOMMENDATION THEN FOR COURT TO APPROVE Y'ALL, UH, Y'ALL'S BOARD MARCH CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
LAST TIME Y'ALL, Y'ALL MOTIONED TO AWARD IT TO SOMEBODY, WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE PROCEDURE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH.
SHE'S WITH USDA, WHICH IS FUNDING PRETTY GOOD PORTION OF THIS PROJECT.
DENISE, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO MOTION TO AWARD IT TO ANY CONTRACTOR, DO YOU? NOT TO PURIFY PRICES.
RIGHT? WE, WE COME BACK AND THEN, AND THEN HAVE, AFTER THEY AWARDS IT, HAVE Y'ALL AWARDED AND VERIFY EVERYTHING.
WILL YOU CALL ANGIE AND GET ON THE AGENDA WHEN YOU GET READY? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE AT THIS POINT MORTON COULD HAVE MIS ADDED AND THEN HE'S ACTUALLY NOT THE LOW.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL WAIT THEN TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO AWARD IT UNTIL Y'ALL.
ALRIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROVING THE VARIANCE FOR LOT 31 31 A AND THE INGRAM RANCH ESTATES OFF 72.
JUDGE, I'M GONNA ASK INFORMATION.
THANK GETTING THAT PHONE CALL FIRST.
SECOND MORNING, COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER THAT WE TABLE THAT ITEM.
CONSIDER APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF PARCEL THREE OF DE
SO MOVED, MADE BY COMMISSION ED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER PASSING RESOLUTION REGARDING MIDDLE ALIGNMENT FOR STATE HIGHWAY 34.
UM, MOTION ABOUT THE ONE HERE.
MOTION CARRIES EVERY GOES THROUGH.
SIT APPROVE BOND MC EWING FOR COUNTY FARM MARSHAL BOND EXPIRED.
AND COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER PROVING DANA CURRY TO REPLACE MARY DOM AS THE COMM AS A COMMISSIONER TO KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER SIX MAY MOTION MADE BY, UM, COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SEGMENT BY COMMISSIONER DEN.
ALL DISCUSSIONS EVERY TIME FOR BID TO REPLACE BROKEN GLASS PANELS IN THE ANNEX BUILDING.
UH, ACTUALLY I SIMPLY BE ADVERTISING FOR BID TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS IN THE ANNEX BUILDING.
UH, ANY OF YOU HADN'T NOTICED WE HAD A WINDOW BROKEN OUT? WE DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, I GOT A CALL ONE NIGHT AND FRED AND I WERE UP HERE AT MIDNIGHT CLEANING IT UP AND LOOKING AT THE DAMAGE.
AND WE HAD, WE WERE FORTUNATE.
NOW THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T GET THOSE PANS ANYMORE.
THEY, THEY, YOU CANNOT REPLACE A FULL WINDOW LIKE THAT.
UH, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
AGAIN, REMEMBER WE DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME GOING AHEAD AND, AND PUTTING A METAL METAL COVERING UP, UH, ABOUT FOUR FEET AND THEN GLASSING THE REST OF IT.
BECAUSE WITH THE SPRAY, NOW WE, WE HAVE THE REAL PROBLEM.
IF THIS HAD BEEN, AND ONLY WAY WE CAN PREPARE THIS ONE IS TO DO THE, THIS ONE MIRROR, ONE WINDOW IS TO DO THE METAL AND THEN THE GLASS.
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WHAT WE'LL HAVE IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS WESTERN ONE SIDE, ONE METAL WINDOW IN THERE AND THE GLASS.SO I RECOMMENDED THAT WE MIGHT GO AHEAD AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE ALL THE WINDOWS LIKE WE DISCUSSED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.
UH, AND UH, IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 25,000.
SO THAT'S WHY I TOLD JACK WE, WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR BIDS ON IT.
UH, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO JUST REPAIR THAT ONE WINDOW OR WE WANT GO AHEAD AND DO 'EM ALL WAY ALONG SITE? WELL, THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WHERE'S THE MONEY GONNA GO? WELL, I HAVE TO COME OUT COURTHOUSE TO PARIS SHORT THERE.
WELL THEN THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS DON'T DO ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST, WELL, CAN YOU KNOW, SINCE WE STILL HAVE ONE GOOD PAINT, CAN WE JUST PUT 10 BALL ON YOU?
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
CAMERA GLASSMAN NOT IN THE HAIR.
SOME WAY YOU STILL HAVE TO GO WITH THE TWO PIECE GLASS, THE BAR FRAME.
EITHER GO METAL AND BOTTOM OR TWO GLASS, BUT YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COST.
BUT, UH, WE GUESSED ABOUT SIX TO 700.
DO WE HAVE THAT HALF? WE'LL PROBABLY FIND THAT SOMEWHERE.
RECOMMENDATION JUST TO FIX THAT ONE WINDOW.
IN LIGHT OF THE BUDGET RESTRAINTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT'S BIG.
THESE LITTLE DEALS ADD UP TO A WHOLE WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
ANOTHER THING JUDGE TOO, UH, TALK GLASS.
HE, HE HAD MENTIONED THAT IF WE WERE TO, UH, DO SOME REMODELING UPSTAIRS AND THE CEILING HEIGHT CHANGE, THAT WOULD AFFECT THE WINDOWS AS WELL.
AND I WANNA WAIT BEFORE WE DO THE FULL BLOWN MOTOR REPAIR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO COME ABOUT OR NOT, BUT I THINK WE JUST REPLACED THIS ONE.
OKAY, WELL LET'S JUST REPLACE THAT ONE.
AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE REST OF IT.
SO WE'D, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO TABLE THAT.
UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
ALL IN FAVOR OF TAB THAT SAY, AYE.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER OPENING AWARD BID FOR, UH, BID.
0 6 0 6 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICES.
UH, WE MOTION OPEN THOSE BIDS.
THIS IS FROM GARDNER ELECTRIC KAUFMAN.
COST PER HOUR, UH, FOR MASTER ELECTRICIAN, $60 PER HOUR.
COST FOR MASTER ELECTRICIAN ON EMERGENCY RATE.
COST PER HOUR FOR JOURNEYMAN ELECTRICIAN.
ITEM FOUR, COST PER JOURNEYMAN ON EMERGENCY RATE, $50 PER HOUR.
ITEM FIVE, COST FOR APPRENTICE ELECTRICIAN, $40 AN HOUR.
ITEM SIX, UH, APPRENTICE ELECTRICIAN AT EMERGENCY RATE, $40 AN HOUR.
ITEM SEVEN COST PER HOUR FOR ELECTRICIANS.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ELECTRICIANS HELPER AT EMERGENCY RATE, $40.
ITEM NINE, COST PER SUPERVISOR AND OR ESTIMATOR.
AND THEY DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON HERE.
UH, THEY'VE ADDED A SERVICE CHARGE PER SERVICE CALL $25 PER HOUR.
A MATERIAL DISPOSAL FEE OF $10 AND AFTER HOURS SERVICE CHARGES PER SERVICE CALL $50.
IS THERE, UH, A TIME ON EMERGENCY WHEN THEY CAN RESPOND? WELL,
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WE THINK WE HAD IT HERE 30 MINUTES MINIMUM.AND THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY WE HAVE ONLY ONE BED.
OKAY, THOSE REQUEST SOUND REASONABLE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD TO AWARD THAT BID SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
A MOTION CARRIERS NEXT HAVE DISCUSSION OF SIT AWARDING BID SIX, STATUS OH FOUR FOR WRAP MATERIAL FOR ALL PRECINCTS.
I BELIEVE Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE TABULATION.
UH, THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER IS INSTRUCTORS INCORPORATED AND COMMISSIONER SHANE AND MYSELF, UH, MADE A A SITE VISIT LAST WEEK AND VERY MATERIAL, THEY HAD MATERIALS THEY DO OFFER THEM.
SO IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD A LOAD TO A ELEVATOR INSTRUCTOR.
INCORPORATED DISRUPTORS INCORPORATED.
COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BRADLEY SECONDS IT ALL IN FAIR.
A MOTION CARRIES WITH THAT NAME.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS WRAPPED UP.
UH, NEXT, ACCORDING TO THE, UH,
TURN THEM ON BACK AND WE NEED TO LOOSE UP.
ALRIGHT, LET ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO ALLOW HIM TO THE TRUCK COMMISSIONER MOTION.
AND I'M GONNA RECOMMEND WE TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND COME BACK AT 11 FANTASY STORY TO HIS KIDS.
AND I SAW THAT VIEW THOUGH STILL ON THE, THAT'S THE FANTASY VIEW.
I DON'T THINK IT'S STILL, IT'S NOT EXACTLY ACTUALLY, BUT THE HORSE RUNNING OFF.
AND YOU ON THE PHONE, ON THE GROUND ON YOUR CELL PHONE.
THAT WOULD BE
THIS NEXT ITEM, THE DISCUSSION CENTER, TAKING ACTION ON TAKING IMPACT ASSESSMENT REGARDING PROPOSED GOVERNMENT ACTION IN COFFMAN COUNTY MAP PROJECT CONDUCT, UH, CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2 58 OF TRANSPORTATION CODE.
I'D ENTERTAIN MOST OF THE TABLE THAT, SO I WE'RE, UH, STILL GETTING MORE INFORMATION TOGETHER.
SO COMMISSIONER ER MAKES THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER ROUND SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLE, SAY AYE.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE NEXT ONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER DELLER MAKES THE MOTION, THE TABLE AND COMMISSIONER ROUND SECONDS.
AND WE'RE ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO DO THAT.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POINTING
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EARLY VOTING ELECTION JUDGES, ALTERNATE JUDGES, AND ALL ELECTION JUDGES THROUGH FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH 2007.WHEN WE APPOINTED ELECTION JUDGES AND ALTERNATE JUDGES, UM, I, I GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LAWSUITS THEN AND, AND WE CAN APPOINT FOR UP TO TWO YEARS.
UM, AND, UM, I THINK AT LEAST ONE OF THE COUNTY TUTORS IS WANTING TO REVISIT THAT AND LOOK AT MAKING THAT APPOINTMENT TO YOUR APPOINTMENT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT EVERY, EVERY YEAR.
UM, DO WE, OF COURSE, IT'S ON THE AGENDA TO DO IT THROUGH 2007, BUT I DON'T, DON'T OF ANY GOOD REASON NOT TO MAKE THOSE TWO YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
WELL, IF WE WANNA DO IT OTHER THAN THROUGH 2007, WE NEED TO REPOST IT.
WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN FURTHER THIS AND WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT IF WE, IF WE GO AHEAD AND APPOINT THE JUDGE'S ELECTION ANYTIME, I GUESS WE CAN GO THROUGH, COME BACK AND DO THAT.
THIS SAYS 2007, JUNE SEVEN ON JUNE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
I MEAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, TO DO THAT, BUT, WE'LL, I MEAN, WE CAN REVISIT IT.
WOULD MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
NEXT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER STEPS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM, UH, AT THE CO COUNTY COURT ANNEX AS A CENTRAL COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2007.
MAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
CONSIDER APPOINTING THERE FLORIDA AS THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2007.
SO, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
NEXT DISCUSSING, CONSIDER APPOINTING PJ GIBSON AS A CENTRAL COUNTY STATION MANAGER FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2007.
ALL MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROWLEY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.
GEORGE IS TAB SUPERVISOR FOR THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE SEVEN, MOVE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
NEXT DISCUSSED, CONSIDER 20 LAURIE PRIMO AS THE ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISOR FOR THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION FOR ALL THE ELECTIONS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOWLEY.
NEXT I DISCUSSED CONSIDER PROVING A RESOLUTION FOR COMP COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL MISSION STATEMENT.
UH, THEY HAD, UH, PREPARED, UH, O MISSION STATEMENT FOR THEIR GROUP.
AND, UH, DID I GET IT OUT? DID I GIVE YOU A COPY? YEAH, THAT'S, THERE'S A COPY ON THERE THAT'S ATTACHED.
I READ IT OVER AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE AND I DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM.
UH, WE HAD A MEETING, SHORT MEETING WITH THEM, UH, A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, AND, UH, JIM WAS AT THAT MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REALLY? ALL THIS, DISCUSS THE BASIC RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, PASS THIS RESOLUTION.
UH, SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GOVERNOR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
CONSIDER AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF VILLE SUBDIVISION TON, COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
I TABLED THIS LAST TIME AND I, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I I HAVE PROBLEM DISCUSSING AJS, BUT THE COUNTY HAS VERY LITTLE AUTHORITY IN EXTENDING THE EJ OF THE CITY.
AND, UH, IN FACT, CRANDALL, JIM MAYBERRY AND JUDY BELL DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF EXTENDING THEIR ETJ.
WE AS A COUNTY HAVE NO AUTHORITY.
SO I TABLED IT LAST TIME AND I, I JUST REVISITED THIS AND I COULD NOT SEE THAT THE
DOES I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE, THIS IS SEVILLE.
LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGERS IN OUR PRECINCTS
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AND THEY HAVE PRETTY MUCH REWRITTEN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR, FOR FOUR.AND CAROL, I THINK OLE AND ITY, UM, TO KEEP 'EM UNIFORM.
I MEAN, AND I THINK GORDON HAS ALREADY CONTACTED GORDON PIERCE.
HAS HE ALREADY CONTACTED YOU TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA OR CONTACTED? OKAY.
I MEAN, ANY DAY THAT, ANY TIME NOW HE'S GONNA BE CONTACTING JUDGE JIM.
I MEAN, I HATE TO TABLE IT AGAIN, BUT I'M NOT TO TABLE IT AGAIN BECAUSE THE CITY OF SEAVILLE SENT ME THIS AND I NEED TO GET IT SIGNED AND BACK.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A UNIFORM ONE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE IT AND THEN GET IT TO ALL THE CITIES, BUT, UH, COUNTY HAS NO AUTHORITY AND EXTENDING OH, WAS THAT, I MEAN, IS THIS TO EXTEND THEIR EJ THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, IS WHEN A, WHEN A SUBDIVISION, UH, SPLITS A CITY AND THE ETJ AND THE COUNTY, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S SPLIT BY THE COUNTY, COUNTY LINE, COUNTY LINE AND THE ETJ OR THE CITY THAT IT ALL GOES TO CITY ARE ALL GOES TO THE COUNTY.
I SAY THAT THE CITY NEGOTIATES THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT THE COUNTY.
WE CANNOT EXTEND A TJ TO INCREASE A TJ OF THE CITY.
AND WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY IN THIS ISSUE.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE BETWEEN THE OWNER OR THE IE THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY MANAGER WHERE THE CITY AS A WHOLE CITY COUNCIL, NOT THE COUNTY MANAGER.
YOU'RE SAYING THEN THAT IF THERE'S A SUBDIVISION THAT LIES PERSONALLY IN THE ETJ OF THE CITY AND, AND HALF OF IT'S IN THE ETJ OF CITY AND HALF OF IT'S IN THE COUNTY, THEN THE CITY REGULATES WHAT'S IN THE EPJ OF THE CITY AND THEN THE COUNTY REGULATES WHAT'S IN THE COUNTY AS IT SIT RIGHT NOW? YES.
IF THE CITY WANTS IT ALL TO BE WITHIN THEIR CONTROL MM-HMM
'CAUSE THAT PART, AND THEN THERE HHJ WILL EXTEND.
BUT I, I DON'T SEE WHERE THE COUNTY HAS ANY AUTHORITY IN EXPANDING OR DECREASING THE SIZE OF AN ETJ.
IT'S A HALF MILE BASED ON POPULATION.
I DUNNO WHY, WHY WE WOULD EVEN FIT.
YOU KNOW, THIS JUST HAPPENED IN, UH, CR UH, WHERE JUDY BELL AND JIM MAYBERRY GOT TOGETHER AND EXTENDED THEIR UTJ.
UH, IT TOOK THOSE TWO, TWO PEOPLE AND ABOUT SIX LAWYERS.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, UH, CITY MANAGER OF MATERIAL, IS HE RECOMMENDING THAT ON THOSE CONTRACTS THEY MAY AMEND TO ALLOW THE CITY TO CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THERE IF PART OF IT'S IN THE ETJ FOR THEM TO CONTROL THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT? WELL, OKAY, WHERE THAT CAME FROM WAS WHEN WE, WHEN WE FORMULATED THOSE AGREEMENTS, WHEN THE LEGISLATURE REQUIRED THAT WE DECIDE WHO'S GONNA REGULATE 'EM, WE GOT, WE WENT TO THE CITIES AND BASICALLY WE ALL DECIDED TO LET THE CITIES REGULATE WHAT'S IN THEIR ETJ.
AND THE QUESTION CAME UP, OKAY, WHAT ABOUT IF, IF THE SUBDIVISION STRADDLES PART THAT'S IN THE ETJ AND PART THAT'S NOT, AND THE INTENTION WAS TO SAY IF ANY PORTION OF IT IS IN THE ETJ, THE COUNTY WOULD DEFER AND LET THE CITY REGULATE.
I THOUGHT THE STATUTE SAID THAT.
WELL, ACCORDING TO GORDON AND THE CITY MANAGERS, IT'S NOT IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITIES.
AND SO ALL THIS IS, IS TO CLEAN UP WHAT WE INTENDED TO ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO WAS TO, AND, AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER ISSUE WE BROUGHT UP WAS, UM, SEPTIC SYSTEMS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT EVEN IF IT'S IN THE ETJ, EVEN IF IT'S IN CITY LIMITS AND THEY HAVE ONSITE SEWAGE, THAT IT'S THE COUNTY SEPTIC ORDER THAT GOVERNS, UH, SEPTIC SYSTEMS UNLESS THE CITY HAS A SEPARATE SEPTIC ORDER.
BUT THAT'S GONNA BE THE CHANGE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED THIS WOULD BE IS WE, WHO'S WE? THIS WAS COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER COURT AT THE TIME, AT THAT, AT THAT TIME AND THE CITIES.
BUT I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION HERE THAT, THAT WE LET EACH, EACH CONTRACT,
AND IN PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT THREE WON'T AMEND THEIRS AND PRECINCT ONE.
THEN EACH INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, I THINK IT SAYS THAT OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DOESN'T, I DON'T THINK IT SAYS THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
I DON'T MIND REVISITING IT, BUT I, I NEED TO GET THESE, THESE HAVE DRAGGED ON FOR MONTHS.
I TABLED IT LAST TIME AND YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GET ME SOMETHING TO CHANGE THE VERBIAGE.
UH, I'M GONNA, AT LEAST I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GET THE VERBIAGE AND REDO IT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING BACK TO THESE CITIES AND, AND CHANGING THEM ALL.
WELL, I THINK WE JUST MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK.
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IS GONNA BE A CONVERSION FROM OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.I THINK, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE AT ODDS WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS SAYS THAT.
AND I THINK, I THINK STILL, I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE INDIVIDUAL IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH INDIVIDUAL CITIES.
HOWEVER, THE CITY THAT WANT DO IT IN THEIR PRECINCT, UH, COMMISSIONER DELL MAKES A MOTION TO SEVILLE INTERVIEW THE LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH VILLE.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED NO, UH, VOTE WHAT TRYING TO DO.
AND WE WILL GET THAT WORKED OUT LIKE THAT.
I THINK WHAT GOOD MATERIAL MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR, BUT ALL OF THEM DEAL WITH US.
AND I'LL BREAK THE TIE BY VOTING.
CARRIE, SAME THING ON THE ONE WITH KIM.
I MAKE THE MOTION WE, UH, APPROVE THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KIM.
THOSE OPPOSED COUNTY JUDGE VOTES? UH, YES.
THEY HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER RENEWING CONTRACT BETWEEN TON COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES REGARDING ONLINE COMPUTER ACCESS FOR STATE BIRTH RECORDS.
THIS IS, UH, BASICALLY A HOUSE CLEAN JOB.
RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, ER SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL VERY I A MOTION CARRIES.
UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ANNUAL ROAD REPORT FOR FILING FOR KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.
JUDGE, I WAS OUT OF COUNTRY WHEN WE DID THAT AND, UH, AND WE DIDN'T MEET LAST WEEK, SO IT A LITTLE BIT LATE.
COMMISSIONER, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DELLER.
I'M NOT GONNA SCRUTINIZE IT RIGHT NOW.
I NEXT I DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PRUDENT IN CONSIDER APPRO THE REQUEST AN EMBARK TO INSTALL VERY CABLE IN PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR, UH, UNDER WOODRUFF CIRCLE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
NEXT, UH, SAME REQUEST FOR COUNTY ROAD 40 23 TIMBERLINE ROAD, THE TIMBERLINE ROAD AND, UH, TURN SOUTH, ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY OF TURNER LINE ROAD AND BORING UNDER TURNER LINE ROAD.
THEY'RE GONNA, THAT INSTEAD OF CUTTING EVERYONE MESS UP A GOOD ROOF.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWING.
NOW WE'VE GOT
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER.
NOW WE'RE ON COUNTY ROAD 40 56.
SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DLL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER R.
NOW WE'RE ON COUNTY ROAD 46 COMMUNICATION DROP VERY COMMUNICATION DROP ON THE RIGHT OF WAY OF 46.
AND COMMISSIONER DELLER MAKES THAT MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES SECOND.
WE'RE GETTING TELEPHONE SERVICE DOWN THERE.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY RINGS? THAT'S GOOD.
UH, NEXT, LET'S, UH, TALK ABOUT THE REQUEST FROM FARMERS ELECTRIC TO CONSTRUCT ELECTRICAL POWER LINES.
THEY'RE GONNA GET ELECTRICITY OVER ON 33.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
WE'RE SHOWING OUR A DON WORRY ABOUT THAT STUFF.
WELL, I REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES I SAT BY THE PHONE GOING, WOULD MY NEIGHBORS PLEASE GET OFF THE PHONE? HANG UP THAT PHONE
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Y'ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER WAS A TELEPHONE OPERATOR FOR 20 YEARS, SO I KNOW ABOUT THAT.UH, LET'S LOOK AT THE, LET'S LOOK AT THE, THAT WAS A LOT OF POWER.
DID YOU KNOW THAT? WHICH ONE? UH, LET'S LOOK AT THE ADDENDUM.
I THINK SHE HATED LILY THOMPSON TOO.
OH, SHE HAD, UH, UH, A LADY CALLED ONE NIGHT FROM HOLLYWOOD AND WAS, UH, TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY IN KAUFMAN.
UM, STORM, UH, WHAT WAS HER? GAIL, GAIL STORM.
UH, GAIL STORM CALLED AND SHE MUST HAVE BEEN PRETTY HIGH.
ANYWAY, SHE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IN KAUFMAN AND OTHER AND HER HEADED OUT PRETTY GOOD, BUT THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
UH, LET'S LOOK AT THE ADDENDUM.
THE ITEM NUMBER 38, UH, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDER AUTHORIZED AN ISSUANCE OF APPROXIMATELY FIVE COUNTY TAX NOTE SERIES SIX AND MATTERS RELATED THERE TO JOHNNY.
YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? OR TOM, YOU WANT JUDGE, WE THINK A SHORT HAUL YEAR PIECE.
I THINK I'VE TALKED TO MOST PEOPLE ABOUT IT, BUT PROBABLY END THAT WE
WE ALSO HAD THE OVERTIME PROBLEM LAST FALL.
WANTED PARTICIPATE IN THE COURSE DEFENSE.
NOW, LIKE I TOLD ALL OF YOU, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THIS IF WE NEED IT, BUT IT TAKES A FEW WEEKS TO DO IT AND WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL MISS
TOM, YOU'VE GONE OVER EVERYTHING AND, UH, YES.
MR. COUNTRYMAN PROVIDED THE ANALYSIS OF WHEN THE SHORTFALL WE HAD IS TRACE.
THE, UH, FUNDS ARE BEING REDUCED AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE STATUTE CALLED A CUMULATIVE SHORTFALL DEFICIT.
AND, UM, CHAPTER 1431 OF GOVERNMENT CODE AS A VEHICLE THAT IS FAR AS PURPOSE.
UH, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNTY AUDITOR RECOMMEND THAT YOU ISSUE THESE NOTES.
ALRIGHT, WE NEED THE DOWN AND GET, ALRIGHT, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN I'VE GOT SOME MORE QUESTIONS.
HOW, HOW, HOW WILL THESE BE PAID BACK OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME? FEBRUARY 15TH.
AND WHAT KIND OF DEBT SERVICE TAX RATES GIVE OR TAKE, PAY BACK.
IT'LL BE, I HAVE NOT CALCULATED THAT.
UH, I, WE KNOW WHAT THE BANK WILL CHARGE, BUT IT IS FOR A $500,510,000 ISSUE, IT'LL BE PAID BACK ON FEBRUARY 15TH.
I THINK, KEN, THAT WE'RE HAVE A LITTLE DECREASE IN THE, THE RECORD JAIL DEBT QUESTION.
I WOULD THINK THAT THIS THING WILL NOT, IT KEEP THAT I DON'T, THAT SERVICE REPORT EXISTS.
JUNE WILL BE LESS WAS LAST YEAR.
SO IT WON'T BE ANY INCREASE TO LESS THAT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK I, I'VE SUGGESTED IN BUDGET WORKSHOPS, AND I'LL SUGGEST NOW I THINK I I HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, HIRING FREEZE AND APPROVE, YOU KNOW, UH, REQUIRE THAT ANY, ANY HIRING TILL THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, UH, COME THROUGH COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I, I I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER GO TO A SPENDING FREEZE THAT WE, WE PUT THE BRAKES ON SPENDING.
UH, WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN BUDGET WORKSHOPS IS A PROPOSAL WAS TO RAISE SPENDING ABOUT $3 MILLION, BORROW ABOUT 2 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.
WE'RE DISCUSSING IF FIVE, $10,000 FOR THIS, UH, SHORTFALL WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN SEPTEMBER, SWITCHED IN.
RIGHT? BUT THIS IS ALL GERMANE BECAUSE ALL OF IT'S GONNA BE PUSHED.
I MEAN, IT IT THIS $500,000 WE'RE
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GONNA HAVE TO PAY BACK IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.UM, SO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING COMMITTED FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR IS GERMANE.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAY, I WOULD RATHER AVOID THE BUDGET SHORTFALL, UH, AND, UM, UH, PUT A FREEZE ON SPENDING A FREEZE ON HIRING AND ONLY SPEND MONEY ON WHAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING DEEP IN A HOLE.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OLD ADAGE THAT IF YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A HOLE, STOP DIGGING.
AND, UH, NOW, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FINANCING EQUIPMENT TO DIG FASTER.
UM, BUT, BUT I, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO FACE THE REALITY THAT WE GOTTA GET A HANDLE ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SPENDING.
AND, AND, UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER SOLUTIONS.
AND PUT THE BRAKES ON SPENDING AND, UH, RATHER THAN BORROW MONEY.
ALRIGHT, THAT IS REAL GOOD RHETORIC AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
HOW MANY CARS ARE YOU GONNA HAVE TO ASK THE SHERIFF TO PARK SINCE HE WON'T HAVE GASOLINE? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU WANT NOT TO GET PAID IN SEPTEMBER? 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY HIM.
HOW MANY, I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? CUT? I'M SUGGESTING IF WE DO THE 510,000 TO TAKE CARE OF DADDY NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA CUT THE SHERIFFS $2 MILLION OUT OF HIS BUDGET NEXT YEAR THEN SO BE IT.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ON THIS 510,000.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE COUNTY HAVE THE SHERIFF'S SERVICE, UH, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE DEFENSE.
UH, DEFENDANTS HAVE THEIR LAWYERS AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE, UH, EMPLOYEES GET, GET PAID.
WELL, JUDGE HAS COME ABOUT AT SOME OF THESE UNEXPECTED ITEMS, UH, HAVE NOT COME UP.
JUDGE, I WAS A HISTORY TEACHER BEFORE I WAS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND ONLY BRINGING UP THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS A TERM CALLED WAVING THE BLOODY SHIRT.
IT'S AN, IT IS AN OLD, UH, IT'S AN OLD TACTIC, BUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ISN'T THE ONLY ONE IN THIS COUNTY.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF DEPARTMENTS IN THIS COUNTY AND THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN BELT TIGHTEN.
UH, AND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING WE DO IS ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S WORK TOGETHER, NOT JUST WAVE THE BLOODY SHIRT.
LET'S, LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, TO, UH, TO BUDGET WHERE WE CAN AFFORD IT.
I'VE, I'VE SUGGESTED SEVERAL BUDGET YEARS THAT WE START WITH ZERO BASED BUDGETING.
RATHER THAN SAYING, THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU GOT LAST YEAR, HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU WANT NEXT YEAR? START FROM ZERO AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO MAKE IT NEXT YEAR AND DO A CONSERVATIVE BUDGET? UM, BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAY, I, I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S TIME FOR SOME BELT DIVING AND, UH, I, I'M NOT FOR, FOR BORROWING, UH, THE $500,000.
I'M NOT FOR BORROWING $2 MILLION.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A MANDATE FROM THE TAXPAYERS ON, UM, REVENUE CAPS AND APPRAISAL CAPS.
UH, OVER 90% OF THIS COUNTY IN THE, IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTED THAT THEY WANTED REVENUE CAPS AND APPRAISAL CAPS.
AND I THINK BORROWING MONEY IS JUST A WAY TO CIRCUMVENT THOSE CAPS.
THE ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, AND I'VE BEEN TO AUSTIN AND HEARD THE ARGUMENTS, IS THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF CONTROLS IN PLACE, UH, TO CONTROL SPENDING.
WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL CONTROLS.
WELL, WHEN COUNTIES CAN JUST GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY AND GO AROUND THAT 80% APPRAISAL CAPS, UH, THOSE CONTROLS THAT AREN'T IN PLACE, I BELIEVE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WORK ALL THE TIME.
KEN, I THINK YOU'RE INAPPROPRIATE DISCUSSING ALL THIS FOR THIS MATTER ACTUALLY MATTER.
UH, I I'M GONNA, UH, ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION DIDN TAKE A MOTION TO DO THE FIVE, 10,000.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S IMMATERIAL TO ME.
I JUST, UH, UH, KNOW THAT'S WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE GOT CURRENTLY.
JUDGE, I KNOW REALIZE WHAT UH, COMMISSIONER LEONARD IS SAYING IS, UH, I KNOW WE DO NEED TO DO SOME BUDGET TIGHTENING AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP AND, AND WORK ON THAT.
UH, I THINK I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE TREASURER ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I THINK CAN BE WORKED OUT TO, TO REDUCE SOME OF THIS, BUT I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, UH, I DON'T SEE THAT WE HAVE ANY CHOICE OTHER THAN TO DO THIS, TO BORROW THIS MONEY, UH, SO THAT WE DON'T RUN OUTTA MONEY BETWEEN NOW AND, AND, UH, THE NEW BUDGET.
SO IF IT'S UP TO ME, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BORROW THE 510,000 AND UH, THEN WE WORK INTO A BUDGET WORKSHOP TO SEE IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT IT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER RAVEN.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.UH, THE NEXT ITEM REGARDING THE $2 MILLION, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A REQUEST TO TABLE THAT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THAT.
ARE WE UP AGAINST THE NO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SELLER TO TABLE THAT ITEM? SECOND.
SECOND BY MR. BROWN IN DISCUSSION ON THE TABLING.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION INTENDING, EXPECTING ATTEMPT TO REIMBURSE EXPENDITURES TO BE INCURRED BY KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT GOES ALONG.
UH, DO WE NEED TO TAKE LEFT TWO NOW? NO, BUT THIS IS ONE NEED TO PASS WHETHER OR NOT YOU DECIDE TO ISSUE THE 2 MILLION IF ON THESE IMPROVEMENTS YOU'RE DOING TO THESE BUILDINGS TO PROVIDE COURTS AND STUFF, YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY RIGHT NOW PASSING THIS RESOLUTION.
IT LETS YOU GO BACK AND REIMBURSE YOURSELF IF IN FACT DATE, BUT WE NEED TO GET THIS ON RECORD NOW SO THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT FLEXIBILITY SIX THERE.
ALRIGHT, I'D RECOMMEND THAT AND I'D ENTERTAIN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TELLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
THAT COMMISSIONER LEONARD VOTES.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER VOTE YES.
COMMISSIONER SHANE DID NOT VOTE.
DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM I THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT WITH PROPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES.
LIABILITY INSURANCE, 1,500 EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
THE DEDUCTIONS IN HEALTH INSURANCE.
70 2002 50 WORKERS COMP 70 2002 50 PRECINCT THREE.
INCREASE HEALTH, 500 REDUCTION IN KNOWLEDGE, BILLS AND LODGING.
MS. LANE IS 500 WITH REDUCTION IN TRANSPORT TO MEDICAL.
OFFICE INCREASED MILEAGE MEALS AND LODGING.
1000 AND OFFICE SUPPLIES 100 WITH REDUCTION IN GENERAL OPERATING EXPENSES.
MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AREA.
3000 WITH REDUCTION IN LAWN CARE OF 18,000 IN BUILDING REPAIRS OF 3000.
$120 IN MISCELLANEOUS A HUNDRED DOLLARS WITH REDUCTIONS OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN BONDS AND $400 IN TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT.
COMMUNICATIONS 500 WITH REDUCTION IN OFFICE FURNITURE OF 1000.
SHERIFF'S FUND INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS.
UH, RADIO REPAIR OF 2000 IN PRODUCTION IN LAW ENFORCEMENT MOBILITY.
UH, EPS INCREASED OFFICE FURNITURE $641.
REDUCTION IN TRAINING AND EDUCATION AT CONFERENCES AND EXTENSION SERVICE.
REDUCTION IN OFFICE SUPPLIES OF 1070.
TRANSPORTATION OF LIVESTOCK, SEVEN $57 TRANSPORTATION PARAPROFESSIONALS.
TRAINING EDUCATIONAL CONFERENCE.
HUNDRED $32 EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS.
MISCELLANEOUS $62 IN THE COMPUTER AREA.
UH, INCREASED GOVERNMENT SERVICES SYSTEMS. 29,950 ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE.
3000 WITH REDUCTION OF BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION.
2000 WITH REDUCTION OF CONTRACT LABOR ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE.
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HEALTH, 3000 IN GAS AND OIL.2000 NEW EQUIPMENT AND LEASE PURCHASED 8,000 WITH REDUCTION IN LUMBER OF 300 CARS.
4,000 MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING.
1,500 BONDS OF 500 UNIFORMS OF A THOUSAND CONTRACT LABOR.
10,000 PRODUCTION OF CONTRACT LABOR.
1200 PRODUCTION OF COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, TASK FORCE ON ENGINE DEFENSE.
WE HAVE A, JUST A SWITCH BETWEEN CPS 1,009 AND 86.
DISTRICT COURT OF THOUSAND NINE.
ADDITIONALLY, BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN THE DA ASSET FORFEITURE FUND, UH, TO INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE EQUIVALENT 12,000 LAKE DAM MAINTENANCE, INCREASE REPAIRS.
2000 RECORDS MANAGEMENT PRESERVATION FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK OFFICE FURNITURE OF 5,000 AND THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 1000.
UH, IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES OF 2,600 FROM ATTORNEY FEE COLLECTIONS AND AN INCREASE IN THE ATTORNEY FEE EXPENSE OF 2,600.
Y'ALL HEARD THE UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST WHEN? A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
OBJECTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, I SUPPOSE WE HAVE SOME BILLS, UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVE WHEN WE START PAYING THE BILLS, BUT, UH, I'M CALLING FOR A BUDGET AT 10:00 AM ON FRIDAY.
WHEN WE, WE LEFT OUR LAST P WORKSHOP, I THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT AMONG EVERYBODY.
UH, UH, AS FAR AS THE, UH, BUDGET GOES, UH, DIDN'T ADVISE, UH, THAT THEY, I READ IN THE PAPER THAT SOME OF COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT AND THEY WANT TO READDRESS IT.
SO WE'RE CALLING FOR A WORKSHOP AT 10:00 AM FRIDAY.
NOW, THE LAST WORKSHOP WE HAD GIVE Y'ALL I THINK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX DAYS TO TAKE THE BUDGET HOME TO COME BACK AT THAT WORKSHOP AND TO TELL US WHERE YOU RECOMMENDED TOUCH THE BUDGET.
AS I RECALL, NOBODY HAD ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHERE THEY WANTED TO CUT THE BUDGET.
NOW I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN, I MEAN, Y'ALL SAID IN THE PAPER YOU WANT TO CUT THE BUDGET.
IF WE WANT TO CUT THE BUDGET, FINE.
WHY DON'T Y'ALL MAKE A LIST OF ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO CUT.
AND ON FRIDAY'S WORKSHOP, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM IF WE NEED TO, BUT WE GOTTA GET THIS BUDGET RESOLVED.
WHETHER WE CUT EVERYBODY, WHETHER WE DON'T GIVE ANYBODY ANYTHING OR WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO GIVE SOMEBODY SOMETHING, WE GOTTA RESOLVE IT.
AND WE'LL BE HERE FRIDAY UNTIL IT, UNTIL I GET A VOTE AT LEAST THREE TO TWO THAT WE'VE GOT SOMETHING WE CAN LIVE WITH.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRING YOU LUNCH AND ALSO BRING YOU SOMETHING.
WE'RE GONNA STAY HERE FRIDAY TILL WE FINISH IT.
JUDGE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAD THREE VOTES LAST TIME.
UM, AND I, I DID COME WITH A, WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NOT BORROW $2 MILLION AND THAT WE, UM, GO LINE BY LINE THROUGH THE BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE STAY WITHIN THE $3 MILLION INCREASE THAT, UH, 8% JUST UNDER A 8% INCREASE IN SPENDING WOULD GENERATE.
UM, THAT I GOT OUT VOTED, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE ISSUE.
BUT, BUT I, I DID HAVE A PROPOSAL AND, AND THERE WAS A, A MAJORITY THEN.
WE CAN'T TAKE VOTE THE WORKSHOP.
NOW DO WE HAVE ANY BILLS? YES SIR.
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WE WILL DO THAT.I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT IT JUST INTERESTING.
WHAT THE HELL THIS, HE HESITATED CALL RAM KILLING.
WE WENT TO PUT FLOOR'S, BEDROOM AND THERE'S A CRACK IN IT.
AND I SWEAR I HAD TO PUT SOME FLOORING THIS WAY SO IT WOULD BE LEVEL ENOUGH.
JUST PUT, THAT'S NOT THIS DRAFT.
WE CAN ONLY DO ONE DAY A WEEK.
THE, UH, WEATHER FORECAST RAIN OFF.
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THAT'S TRUE.AND EVERYBODY, WELL, THAT MUST BE 33 CENTS FOR, AND THIS IS A, OOPS.
DO YOU EVER LISTEN, YOU DON'T LISTEN TO YOUR KIDS, BUT IT'S A, HE'S THE MC AND HE GOES THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF COMMERCIAL.
HE TELLS THIS STORY THAT'S ABOUT THIS WOMAN WHO WANTED SINGER CHOIR.
AND ON THE WAY TO THE CHURCH, SHE HIT A RACCOON AND SHE COULDN'T AND SHE THOUGHT ABOUT STUFF.
SHE DIDN'T STOP, SHE SAID MAY HAVE BEEN HURT.
SHE, SHE DIDN'T GET, YOU KNOW, SHE TRY OUT.
SO SHE STOPPED AT THE BURGER PLACE AND BOUGHT A BUNCH OF BURGERS AND STICKER BARS.
AND THEN SHE WENT BY WHERE SHE HIT THE RACCOON.
BUT ANYWAY, I COURSE I LISTEN WHILE, OH MAN, I THOUGHT I I THOUGHT YOU WERE
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WELL I SEE IF I CAN GET SOMEBODY.THAT'S THE FIRST THREE, TWO, THE FIRST CONCERT I WENT TO, IT WAS THE SIR DOUGLAS WARMUP BAND FOR TEACH AND CHALK.
HE AB ON THE OTHER SIDE ALONG HERE.
WELL, THE BRUTAL STUFF, THEY ABSTAINING.
THEY NEVER COMMISSIONER OR THEY, THEY MADE THE MOTION SECOND.
SO I SAW A SHOW LIKE THE SEVENTIES POLITICALLY.
LIKE WHAT'S, WHAT DOES I JUST NEED TO SIGN? THEN THEY BRING THE WIVES AND THE, THE ONES THAT YEAH, BLACK AND WHITE.
I THOUGHT THE MOVIE FIELD OF DREAMS BLEW IT WHEN THEY DIDN'T BRING IN, THEY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IN A LITTLE SQUAD.
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SHOULDA THAT WOULD'VE MADE, THAT WOULD'VE MADE THE MOVIE EVEN BETTER.ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY EARL JONES, HE WOULD SAID DON'T LOOK BACK.
SPEND A LOT OF MONEY PUT BY CHIEF DEPUTY JUST PUT HERE.
BUT I HAVE THOUGHT HE I THE AMPLIFIER THAT GOES WITHOUT HIS OF THOSE THAT IT'S JUST SOMETHING.
HOW ARE ALL THAT OF STUFF TO SIGN? WELL, WE STARTED IN BUDAPEST.
GOT ON THE BOAT, WENT TO VIENNA.
DID YOU SEE ANYTHING ALIVE IN THE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A A
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CAN SEE HOW SHE GET YOU TO SIGN EVERYTHING.DID YOU GO TO THE MUSEUMS THERE? THE ENTRANCE TO THE, THE ENTRANCE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH OF ACOUSTICALLY.
I, YEAH, WE MADE THAT MISTAKE ELEVATOR THAN THEY WERE PLUGGED IN OLD COUNTRY AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WHAT THE BILL? AND MAKE THE MOTION
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IT ALL IN FAVOR.REMEMBER? OKAY,
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO, UH, ADJOURN.
UH, REMEMBER REMEMBER OUR WORKSHOP FRIDAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ATTORNEY SAY, AYE.