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KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT, SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2006, WE'RE PRIVILEGED THIS MORNING TO HAVE, UH, MINE AND COMMISSIONER ROBIN'S PASTOR HERE THIS MORNING.
AND JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN COUNTRY'S NOT IN HERE, BUT, UH, BUT HE'S JOHNNY'S PASTOR ALSO, UH, REVEREND DAVID CARR.
AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO COME THIS MORNING TO, UH, OPEN OUR MEETING UP WITH A PRAYER.
REVEREND CARR, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE HIM TO STAND, JUDGE? ANY PLACE? UH, HOW ABOUT HERE? THAT'S FINE.
OF COURSE YOU'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM BEING WITH HEARING YOU ANYWAY,
GRACIOUS GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF LIFE.
THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF THIS DAY WITH ALL OF ITS PROMISE AND POSSIBILITIES.
THANK YOU FOR THE WAY THAT YOU ORDER OUR LIVES.
BLESS THIS COURT, AND IN ALL OF THEIR DELIBERATIONS, ALL SITUATIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COME BEFORE THEM THIS DAY, MAY THEY RULE WITH BOTH JUSTICE AND COMPASSION.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY WAYS IN WHICH YOU ARE PART OF OUR LIVES THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN AWARE.
SO KEEP US MINDFUL OF YOUR PRESENCE WITH US THIS DAY.
IF Y'ALL NOW JOIN ME IN THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR ALONG TEXAS.
FLAG, I PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WITH ENTERTAIN MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER.
UH, FIRST ITEM, UH, I WANT TO SKIP IT JUST FOR A MINUTE.
ACTUALLY, THE FIRST TWO ITEMS, ANGIE'S ON THE PHONE NOW WITH, UH, CHUCK KIMBRO.
SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR CLARIFICATION FROM HIM ON THE MATTER.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER PROVING THE MASTER AGREEMENT WITH TRANSUNION, WHICH WILL ALLOW D ME TO PROVIDE PROOF CONCEPT ON DEFENSE EXPENDITURES.
LAURA, YOU, UH, THAT'S YOUR PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE GAVE PERMISSION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, SO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
SO YOU WANT TO GET US CAUGHT UP ON THAT.
WE ARE NOW ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM THE DATA THAT THEY NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GEORGE NEEDED TO PROVIDE THEM A LIST OF LIKE 300 NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO HAD RECEIVED INDIGENT ATTORNEYS.
AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK WHEN THEY CAME AND PRESENTED AT THE WORKSHOP DUE THAT SAID THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT THESE PEOPLE HAD THE MEANS OR WERE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED INDIGENT USING, USING TRANSUNION.
AND THIS IS JUST THE MASTER AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS TRANSUNION TO CHECK THAT AND WILL GIVE US THE PROOF OF CONCEPT, COME BACK AND TELL US DID ALL 300 NEEDED OR DID THEY NOT? YEAH, THIS IS NOT A CONTRACT WITH THEM TO, TO DO THIS.
THIS IS JUST A CONTRACT FOR THEM TO DO THE STUDY ON THE 300, UH, TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THE COUNTY WOULD'VE SAVED HAD WE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PRIOR PROGRAM ALL ALONG.
SO, AND JUDGE, YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR PROGRAM IS.
I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T SURE IT'S, I MEAN, WE KNOW, BUT YEAH, IT'S A COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT WILL ALLOW BASICALLY ASSET RESEARCH TO BE DONE ON AN INDIVIDUAL.
IF THEY'RE, UH, REQUEST THE COURT TO APPOINT 'EM AN ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT 'EM ON CRIMINAL CASES, THEN UH, THIS, UH, PROGRAM WILL ALLOW QUICK RESEARCH OF THAT INDIVIDUAL'S ASSETS TO SEE IF THEY WOULD QUALIFY.
BECAUSE WHEN THEY APPLY FOR A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY, THEY'RE SAYING, I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
AND, UH, IT IS PROBABLY, THERE'RE PROBABLY SOME OF THEM, IT MAY NOT BE 100% HONEST WITH THE COURT
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WHEN THEY, UH, MAKE THAT, UH, UH, DO MAKE STATEMENT.UH, SO, UM, IT CAN ALSO BE USED IN REFERENCE TO COURT COLLECTIONS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY AND THEIR ABILITY TO PAY.
ON INDIGENT, UH, HEALTH, IT'LL ALSO, THE PROGRAM CAN BE USED IN INDIGENT HEALTH WHEN VICKY IS, UH, RESEARCHING THE ASSETS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REQUESTING, UH, MEDICAL AID FROM THE COUNTY.
WAS THIS A PLUS FOR HER ALSO? IT'S A PLUS FOR HER ALSO.
IS THIS A BEFORE THE FACT, RIGHT? BEFORE THEY ARE ASSIGNED YES.
A LAWYER OR HEALTHCARE OR WHATEVER FOR COLLECTIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S, IS THIS GONNA BE TRANSMITTED TO THE LADY UPSTAIRS THAT I I CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THEM OR THEY CAN MAKE THE DECISION? WE'RE JUST OFFERING TO THE COURT THE PROOF OF CONCEPT TO SEE IF THERE WILL BE A SAVINGS AND WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT PERHAPS THE JUDGE WOULD CONSIDER IT.
BUT IT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR COURT COLLECTIONS AND INDIGENT HEALTH IF INDIGENT DEFENSE CHOSE NOT TO.
FROM WHAT I READ, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT, BUT I THINK WE GOTTA WE GOTTA COMPLETE THE, COMPLETE THE, THE LINK TO THE UPSTAIRS PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO PROOF OF CONTACT WE'LL COME BACK.
AND, AND THIS IS BASICALLY THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE 300 NAMES THAT GEORGE IS PROVIDING TO THEM AND, AND THEY'LL COME BACK TO THE COURT WITH THE DATA.
NOW THESE 300 NAMES ARE, IS AFTER THE FACT NAMES? YES, YES, YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE, IF, IF YOU HAD USED THIS PRIOR TO ASSIGNING THESE PEOPLE IN THE INDIGENT ATTORNEYS, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BLANK PERCENT OF THEM HAD THEIR OWN NEEDS.
I THINK, JUDGE, MAYBE I MISSED THAT.
WHO, WHO ACTUALLY DOES THIS? THIS A COMPANY CALLED DMED.
NO, I MEAN, HERE DOES THE DISTRICT JUDGE DO IT? YOU MEAN AS FAR AS
THE, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL COURTS, THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES AND THE COUNTY COURT LAW.
SO WHATEVER COURT THAT'S IN RIGHT NOW, THAT'S BEEN COORDINATED THROUGH JUDGE TAG TO OFFICE, ISN'T IT DAPHNE? YES.
BUT WHAT I MEAN, WHAT THIS WILL DO, AND IT'S, THERE'S NO LAG.
IF SOMEBODY SAYS THEY'RE, THEY CAN'T AFFORD AN ATTORNEY, THEY CAN BRING IT UP ON THE COMPUTER AND SAY, WELL, YOU HAVE, I MEAN, HERE'S YOUR CREDIT SCORE.
HERE'S YOUR ASSETS, AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, $50,000 WORTH OF ROOM ON YOUR CREDIT CARDS.
HOW CAN YOU BE THE ENGINE, UH, IN REAL TIME? IN REAL TIME? AND, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL UP THAT, THOSE THAT RECORD RIGHT THERE AND THE JUDGES.
IT'LL BE A GREAT TOOL FOR OUR JUDGES AND OR, UH, INDIGENT HEALTHCARE TO INSTANTLY BE ABLE TO TELL WHETHER THEY REALLY ARE IN INITIALLY THERE'S NO COST TO MOVE.
MAY BY COMMISSIONER DOW, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
GRAB TO, UH, APPROVE THE MASTER AGREEMENT FOR THE MED TO PROVIDE THE PROOF OF CONCEPT.
UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, THE, UH, ITEM, UH, ON THE COUNTY ROADMAPS.
UH, CHUCK HAD REQUESTED WE TABLE THAT TO NEXT WEEK.
AND EACH ONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO CALL HIM AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
THERE'S SOME, UH, I THINK SOME OF YOU MADE SOME CHANGES OR, UH, ONE IN ONE AREA.
I THINK, UH, SOME ROADS OVERLAP.
UH, SO CHUCK NEEDS TO TALK TO Y'ALL AS SOON AS Y'ALL CAN CALL HIM AFTER.
CAN WE GET THE, I MEAN, THEY ONLY SENT US ONE COPY.
UM, BUT I MEAN, CAN WE SIM'S OFFICE? BUT THEY'RE COLOR CODED.
THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE COLOR CODED AND, UH, KATHY MORRIS WANTED ME TO SIT THERE AND GO OVER IT AND CERTIFY.
I DON'T HAVE ALL MY PAPERWORK WITH MY DATA.
I NEED A COLOR CODED ONE BECAUSE THE COLOR CODED IN THE CITY PRIVATE.
IN FACT, THERE'S EVEN DRIVEWAYS ON THERE, YOU KNOW.
UM, AND I'VE DONE THIS THREE TIMES AND I'M JUST ABOUT AT THE END OF MY, MY ROPE ON THIS ISSUE.
WELL, IT WOULD BE REAL HANDY IF WE COULD GET A COPY THAT WE CAN SET IT ON OUR OWN OFFICE.
BECAUSE I'LL TAKES A PHONE CALL.
YOU GET FIVE COPIES SET UP, RIGHT? IT'S, YEAH, ANGIE ALREADY TOLD HIM THIS MORNING, I WANT COLOR CODE COPY.
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FIVE COLOR COLOR COPIES.SO WE'LL REQUEST THAT WE, UH, TABLE THOSE ITEMS THREE AND FOUR ON THE AGENDA.
MOVE THE TABLE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, ALL A, AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON NEXT MONDAY.
CONSIDER SIGNING A CONTRACT FOR PRIMARY RATE ISDN FOR THE OLD JAIL GEORGE.
JACK, YOU GOING TO TAKE CARE OF? YES, I'LL, UH, THAT IS THE PHONE SERVICE, SERVICE FOR THE, UH, OLD JAIL.
YOU'RE CALLING THE OLD JAIL NOW.
IS THIS JERRY SOUTH CAMPUS? SOUTH CAMPUS.
AND, UH, EVERYTHING'S IN ORDER AND EVERYTHING.
WE ACTUALLY, UH, GOT TWO QUOTES THAT WERE TWO PROVIDERS PRETTY VALLEY AND, UH, AND PRETTY VALID WAS CHEAPER.
AND, UH, I THINK GEORGE THOUGHT IT'D BE A REAL GOOD IDEA TO GO TRY THOSE FOLKS OUT IF WE HAD ANOTHER WIRE CUT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
CONSIDER APPRO, UH, M EMBARK'S REQUEST TO INSTALL VERY COMMUNICATION CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD MOLEY.
SO MOVE COMMISSIONER SECOND IT AND KENNY, SHANE
UM, NOT VERY NICE TO LAUGH WHEN A GUY CHOKED.
EVEN JUDGE, WHEN I TOOK OFFICE, A FORMER COMMISSIONER TOLD ME THAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE COOL PARTS OF THIS JOB IS THAT YOU CAN GET DEVELOPERS TO NAME ROADS AFTER ALL YOUR KIDS, ALL THAT STUFF.
AND I'VE NEVER FIGURED OUT HOW TO ACTUALLY DO THAT.
UH, OKAY, EMBARK ALSO WANTS, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
EMBARK ALSO WANTS TO DO IT ON COUNTY ROAD 40 52.
I'D MAKE A MOTION ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY AND BORING UNDER 40 52.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA STIPULATE HOW FAR HUNTER
WE MIGHT WANT TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT THAT.
I'M STILL TOO LONG IN THE SHORT THOUGH.
UH, JERRY DALLAS FILED THE REPORT ENDING EIGHT 19.
JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS FILING FOR DALLAS CROWN.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND.
I THINK WE'VE HAD, UH, SOMEONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON MATTER JURY.
UH, WE HAVE MR. LIK THAT SIGNED UP.
AND WHAT HE'S ASKING IS, UH, HE'S A LOCAL DEVELOPER AND, UH, LANDMAN AND HE'S GOT, HE'S, HE'S WANTING SOME EXEMPTION FROM THE BURN BAND TO GET RIGHT TO IT.
AND WITH THIS RAIN AND WITH THIS WEATHER, UH, I TOLD HIM THERE WERE VERY NO EXEMPTIONS OF THIS THAT CAME BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AND HE SAID WHEN THEY WERE IN, WHEN HE DID BUSINESS OR DOES BUSINESS AT ROCKWALL, THAT THEY HAD SOME PERMITS THAT YOU COULD COME IN AND BUY FROM THE COUNTY THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO BURN SOMETHING IN A CERTAIN AREA, A CERTAIN TIME.
UM, HE'S GOT A WATER TRUCK, HE'S GOT LIABILITY INSURANCE, HE'S GOT THE WHOLE THING.
AND I KNOW JIM'S WORKING ON THESE OTHER FARM CODE.
I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
I KNEW WE COULDN'T, WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT TODAY TO LET HIM DO ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT TO SEE IF THAT'S ANY KIND OF AN OPTION.
UH, IF WE'VE EVER DONE THAT BEFORE.
UH, WE HAVEN'T SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT,
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BUT, UM, HE DOES HAVE A WATER TRUCK.HE DOES HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE WEATHER'S FINE NOW FOR THAT.
I WAS HOPING COUNT, BUT, UH, JIMMY, JOE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THIS THAN WHAT I HAVE, WE'D BE GLAD TO HEAR IT.
JUST A COUPLE OF WORDS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 200 ACRES FOR A FELLOW THAT'S CLEAR.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WOULD BURN MEAN IT'S OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF 200 ACRES OF PLOW.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY, OR, OR MY QUESTION IS IF Y'ALL COULD ISSUE SOME TYPE OF PERMIT, MAYBE GET THE FIRE MARSHAL TO COME OUT AND, OKAY.
THE, THE, THE PROJECT, UH, I'VE GOT A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF LIABILITY INSURANCE.
I'VE GOT A WATER TRUCK IF NECESSARY.
IF THE FIRE MARSHAL THINKS IT'S NECESSARY, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CALL TRENCH BURNING.
YOU DIG TRENCH AND YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY FEED THE WOOD INTO THE TRENCH AS IT'S BURNED.
UH, WHICH MAKES IT REALLY SAFE.
IT'S, IT'S CUTS DOWN ON THE SMOKE AND THE EMISSIONS, YOU KNOW, POLLUTES.
AND WE MISSED TWO WEEKENDS OF THE ROAD THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN BURNING DURING THE POURING DOWN RAIN.
AND I SAID THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE THAT CAN POSSIBLY BURN AT ALL.
AND, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE RAIN NEXT WEEKEND.
AND AGAIN, EVERYTHING'S GREENED UP.
AND I WAS, MY QUESTION IS, IF Y'ALL COULD ISSUE SOME TYPE OF PERMIT, MAYBE LET THE FIRE WASHER COME OUT AND MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, UM, THAT WE CAN GET THIS JOB COMPLETED.
A LOT OF THIS IS IN THE KINGS CREEK FLOOD PLAIN.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT Y'ALL DON'T LET US BURN UNTIL, OR IF WE DON'T GET IT BURNED BEFORE FROST, THEN IT IS GOING TO BE MORE DANGEROUS AS WHAT GRASS IS GROWING NOW, YOU KNOW, BECOMES BROWN FLAMMABLE.
AND IF THIS HAPPENS TO FLOOD IN THE MEANTIME, ALL THESE BRUSH PILES WILL POSSIBLY WIND UP DOWN ON 9 87 DEGREE.
UH, AND WITH ALONG BETWEEN THE WE'RE AT.
SO, WELL I KNEW I WE HAD NEVER DONE THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT AND I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT DOWN AND SEE WHAT I THINK IF WE COULD GET LARRY TO GO OUT WITH HIM AND, UH, LOOK AT IT PAR IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S NOT AN OPTION, THEN WE NEED TO TO HEAR THAT, BUT MOST OTHER COUNTIES OF ANY SIZE HAVE PERMITS THAT THEY WILL ISSUE, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T SEE WHY WHILE THE PERMIT BAND WAS GOING ON, YOU COULD GET A PERMIT AND YEAH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HAVING A 14 DAY PERMIT, 20 DAY PERMIT OR SOMETHING WITH A, WITH A LENGTH OF TIME, SURE.
BUT AS LONG AS YOU SHOW, YOU KNOW, PROOF OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVE ALL THE SAFETY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T JUST SAY IF IT WAS THE OPTION.
WELL, I THINK, UH, NUMBER ONE, I THINK LARRY'S ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY TO DISCUSS THE BURN BAND PERIOD.
UH, BUT I THINK, UH, MR. ZA, ANY, ANYTHING LIKE THIS NEEDS THAT EVEN IF, IF, IF THE FIRE MARSHAL SAYS YES, IT'S OKAY.
I DON'T THINK THE COURT HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO WORK WITH HIM.
I CONTACTED HIM A WEEK AGO WHEN IT WAS RAINING MM-HMM
AND HE SAID HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO DEVIATION FROM NO ANSWER UNLESS Y'ALL APPROVE IT.
WELL, THIS IS TRUE IF THE COURT'S NOT GOING TO PROVE IT UNLESS HE THINKS IT'S SAFE ENOUGH TO BE DONE.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, AND A PERMIT PROCESS WOULD CLARIFY THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF A CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH HAS INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT ON SITE TO CONTROL THE FIRE, IF THE, YOU KNOW, IF A TORNADO CAME UP AND, AND SPREAD IT EVERYWHERE, IF HE COULD STILL CONTROL IT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO COVER ALL BASES.
WELL, UH, HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING SOMEBODY WITH A TUB GRINDER? I KNOW THEY'RE USING ALL THESE GRINDERS DOWN NEW ORLEANS RIGHT NOW, GRINDING UP ALL OF WOOD, SIR.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE HUNDRED ACRES OF BRUSH PILES.
90% OF IT IS BLACK LOCUSTS AND MESQUITE.
IT'S NOT A RECYCLABLE MATERIAL.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF Y'ALL WOULD WANT MULTS IN YOUR YARD WITH MESQUITE BEANS AND, AND, UH, BLACK LOCUST BEAM THAT YOU KNOW, THAT ARE GONNA COME UP.
IS IS JUST, I MEAN THIS IS NOT A JUST DEVELOPER THING.
IT'S RECLAIMING SOME GROWN UP RANCH LAND.
JUDGE, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I GOT WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND JUST SEE WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT IT? DOES HE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY YOU CAN, IF, IF, UH, THAT'S ALL WE QUESTION, HE DOESN'T WANT OUR RESPONSIBILITY,
UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WENT TO A DEBRIS REMOVAL SCHOOL WITH KATHY MORRIS AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE.
AND, UH, WHAT THE SCHOOL WAS, WAS WHAT YOU DO IF THERE'S A DISASTER, IF THERE'S A TORNADO, MAJOR FLOOD OR SOMETHING ELSE, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE VERY RE MOBILE IS A HUGE PART OF THAT.
AND WE SAW, YOU KNOW, VIDEOS OF, YOU KNOW, TRENCH BURNERS AND IT'S, THAT'S AN AMAZING WAY TO GET RID OF TRASH.
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YOU DIG A TRENCH AND YOU HAVE A FAN.SOME OF THEM EVEN HAVE A, A, A MISTING SYSTEM WHERE IT SPRAYS A MIST OF, UH, DIESEL FUEL.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY BLOWING AIR THAT IT'S BLOWING DIESEL FUEL INTO THE FIRE AND IT BURNS CLEAN AS IT CAN BE.
AND THEY TOLD US IN DEBRIS REMOVAL, YOU CAN THROW APPLIANCES IN THE FIRE ONCE IT GETS GOING AND IT'LL BURN A REFRIGERATOR UP.
WELL, 90% OF THIS IS TREES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN 12 METER.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT A BRUSH PILE WILL BURN FOR DAYS.
LIKE IF YOU WERE BURNING TIMBER.
I'M GONNA SAY IN THREE TO FOUR HOURS THE PILE'S GONNA BE COMPLETELY GONE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, EXTINGUISH AND COVER UP EVERYTHING BY THE END OF THE DAY THAT WE, WE ACTUALLY BURNED IT.
WELL, THAT, THAT FIRE GETS SO HIGH YOU CAN SMELL METAL.
IN ROCK WALL, WE, UH, WE BURNED GREEN M AND BULLAR TREES THAT WERE TWO AND THREE FOOT IRON TRUNKS AND THEY BURNED UP COMPLETELY.
THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT BUT THE DIRT THAT WAS IN CASE IN THE ROOF FALLS.
AND THERE, THERE'S, AND THERE'S NO SMOKE.
A AFTER THE, YOU GET THE INITIAL FIRE STARTED.
IF YOU'RE A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY, YOU DON'T EVEN SEE A, A MIST OF SMOKE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED BEFORE WINTER GETS IN BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S IN THE BOTTOM LAND.
AND UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD NOT TO BURN ANY CORNER DOWN RAIN.
I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT THE AREA THAT IS, THERE IS A LOT OF, UH, IT'S A 208 SIDE NEXT TO IT, NEXT TO THOSE.
COMMISSIONER BROWN, I'D SUGGEST YOU WORK WITH, UH, LARRY.
OKAY, MR. ZA TO SEE IF ANYTHING CAN BE WORKED OUT.
AND I FULLY ANTICIPATE IF, IF WE GET MORE RAIN THIS WEEK AND THEN RAIN NEXT WEEKEND, I ANTICIPATE NEXT MONDAY LARRY COMING IN AND MAKING A REQUEST THAT WE MEETING JUST DO AWAY WITH THE BURN.
I'LL TALK TO THEM TODAY OR TOMORROW.
WELL, WE, I HOPE THEY GOT MORE RAIN OUT THERE AND I GOT MY HOUSE.
I NEED TO TELL MR. LIK IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON, I WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE A FEW MORE MINUTES.
I WISH WE'D STICK AROUND AND EVEN TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING.
THANK YOU JUDGE LARRY COMES THROUGH AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY IS INTERESTED IN USING THE, THE BURN PERMIT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT WANT IN THEIR LITTLE DEVELOPER PACKAGE THAT THEY KEEP IN THEIR OFFICE IF IT EVER COMES UP AGAIN, WE WAS THINKING MAYBE THE COUNTY CLERK.
WE JUST HANDLE THE, UH, HANDLE THAT.
AND A QUICK LOOK AT THIS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FEE, YOU KNOW, COVER OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
I THINK THERE'S A FEE IN THERE.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A MONEY MAKING DEAL THAT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.
AND, AND I I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT MONEY MAKING DEAL, BUT I I DON'T THINK $15 WILL COVER WE, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I, MR. ROSA, WHAT WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON THE COUNTY FIRE CODE.
RIGHT? AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WE JUST FINISHED ONE ON, ON THAT SUBJECT, OUTDOOR BURNING.
UH, WE WILL HAVE THIS IF THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE, UH, ONE OCTOBER THIS WILL BE IN PLACE.
I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE A FLOOD BETWEEN THAT THEN I HOPE.
BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS, THIS SAME, SAME SECTION I I, THAT, THAT SEEMED LIKE THE REASONABLE THING TO DO, BUT BE THE PUSH SOME TYPE PERMITT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE WORKS SO THAT THE CONTRACT COMPLETE PROJECT.
WE PROPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FROM THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AREA.
INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES 3000.
LIFE INSURANCE PREMIUMS 3,532 WITH REDUCTION IN MISCELLANEOUS OF 7,332.
$30 REDUCTION OF ANY TRANSPORTS JURY FUND INCREASED.
SPECIAL COURT REPORTER JANUARY $27 WITH REDUCTION IN JURY FEES.
COUNTY TREASURER, INCREASED MILEAGE, MEALS AND LODGING.
I'LL JUST PAY THAT FOR YOU HERE.
2000 WITH REDUCTION OF
MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS TO INCREASE JANITORIAL SERVICE AT THE COURTHOUSE.
2000 GARBAGE PICKUP AT THE LIBRARY.
$50 REDUCTION IN LAWN CARE OF 2050.
400 TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE.
415 WITH REDUCTION IN GAS AND OIL.
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SHERIFF'S FUND.3000 COMMUNICATIONS 5,000 WITH REDUCTION IN SALARIES.
JAIL FUND, INCREASED MEDICINE AND DRUGS.
REPLACEMENTS 2000 WITH REDUCTION IN SALARIES.
22,712 KAMAN COUNTY CHILD SHELTER.
2000 COMMUNICATIONS 100 WITH REDUCTION IN CLOTHING OF 2100 GOLDEN BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE.
INCREASED GAS AND OIL 2000 WITH REDUCTION IN CONTRACT LABOR.
TWO $50 FOR REDUCTION IN COMMUNICATIONS.
1000 WITH REDUCTION IN MISCELLANEOUS WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION.
INCREASED HAULING COSTS 5,300 WITH REDUCTION IN CITY OF CARROLL COSTS 5,300.
ADDITIONALLY IN THE DAS AT TURE ACCOUNT OR FUND, WE INCREASE COMMUNICATIONS 500 AND INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE, NEW EQUIPMENT 9,000.
AND IN THE DAS AT D CHECK FUND, INCREASE EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE.
THE LINE ITEM
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
BEFORE WE GET TO, UH, PAYING THE BILLS, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY'S BIRTHDAY TODAY.
NOW WE OUGHT TO ALL SAYING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MISS LAURA.
HUG TO ASK HOW OLD SHE'S, I GUARANTEE SHE'S STILL WAY YOUNGER THAN EVERYBODY.
OKAY, JOHNNY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE OUT OF TOWN.
I I WAS GONNA PUT UP THE DOLLAR SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PANHANDLE.
IS THAT TIME OF YEAR COMING UP HERE? UH, I'LL, I'LL TALK TO, I'LL TALK TO LARRY AND I'LL CALL YOU.
AND HE LOOKS AT ME
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JUST ACRES CHURCHES.THEN I'LL, I CAN GO, I CAN GO UNLESS IT WAS DONE PRIOR TO 2001.
DO YOU KNOW IF BONNIE VIEW ESTATES IN THREE NORTH SOMEWHERE? IT'S THREE.
BUT THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY IT.
WELL, I DON'T, I I DON'T HAVE IT LISTED.
WELL, I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY, THEY DID THE PRELIMINARY ON IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE, WE HAVEN'T DONE.
THEY HAVEN'T ON THE AGENDA YET.
WELL HE CAME IN, I REMEMBER DOING HIS PRELIMINARY AND STILL LIKE A 200, 200 LOT SUBDIVISION.
HE LIVED TO LIKE HIS, TO THE FINAL.
AND THAT ONE CAME IN AFTER JANUARY SIX BECAUSE THAT'S,
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WE SHOULD HAVE, I CAN GO BACK TO THE OFFICE AND CHECK BECAUSE THIS ONLY GOES TO JANUARY SIX.AND I REMEMBER JUST DOING IT A WHILE BACK BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF DOING THANK YOU FOR COMING.
HE HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT TOO.
WE'LL LOOK AT IT MAY COME UP SOMEWHERE ELSE.
HOUSE SAYS HE'S GOT EVERYTHING SIGNED.
AND COMMISSIONER SECONDED AND ALL, UH, REMIND Y'ALL DISCUSS WE DO THE BIG COURTHOUSE AND PROBABLY GO THERE.
LOOK AT, UH, WE HERE FIRST I THINK IT WAS WE ADJOURN.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TO ADJOURN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
NO, YOU CAN THREE TO ONE MOTION.