* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] I ASK COMMISSIONER ROWDEN TO, UH, OPEN THIS UP THIS MORNING. UH, I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO STAND THAT SILENT 9 1 1 VICTIMS, LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, LIGHTEN THE DARK AREAS OF OUR HEARTS AND WARM THE COLD REALMS OF OUR MINDS. BE WITH US TODAY AS WE DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS. LOOK DOWN ON US AND GIVE US THE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE THIS TASK. PLEASE LOOK UP, LOOK DOWN ON OUR TROOPS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY. UH, BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. FLAG, PLEASE. MY PLEASURE. TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS FOR ONE NATION, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, JUSTICE, HONOR, FLAG, I, AN INDIVIDUAL. Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE . MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? A A A MOTION CARRIES. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING IS, UH, MS. MARILYN MAY AND, UH, SHE'S GONNA GIVE US A REPORT ON SOME GRANTS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UM, ALLOWING ME TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD. UH, WE'VE PUT IN FOUR GRANTS AND WE RECEIVED, UM, WELL, WE PUT FOUR IN FOR THE COUNTY, BUT WE ALSO PUT IN ONE WITH THE CITY OF TER, AND WE RECEIVED TWO FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY AND SEPTEMBER 1ST. JUDGE, JEN AND I, UM, WORKED WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AND WE SIGNED THE PAPERWORK. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR, WE HAVE, ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE, HAVE A HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PERMANENT SITE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THAT AT THE KEMP, UH, ECO STATION. WE'RE TALKING AT THE, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY CALLING PRECINCT FOUR ECO STATION. THAT'S THE OFFICIAL NAME. I'VE JUST GOTTA GET THAT IN MY HEAD. THAT'S MARYLAND ECO. UM, AND UM, THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE FOR A TECHNICAL STUDY, UM, AND AN ORDINANCE ON LANDFILLS. AND THAT WAS, UH, BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, BASICALLY, IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, BUT, UM, WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE IN THE COUNTY, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL NOT REALLY HAVE ANY SAY SO AS FAR AS IF SOMEBODY WERE TO COME IN AND TRY TO PUT A LAND FILL IN. SO THIS STUDY WILL GIVE US THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES OR PLACES THAT WE MIGHT EVER, YOU KNOW, IF IT EVER COMES UP, IT WOULD BE THE BEST, UH, IN THE COUNTY TO PUT A LANDFILL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AN ORDINANCE WILL BE WRITTEN. SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU TO PUT TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE AND THAT GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, ALL THE AUTHORITY ON WHEN WHAT, AND HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN. Y'ALL RECALL THE GUY THAT CAME IN, UH, REPRESENTED FROM COUNCIL SCOTT? PASTOR MAN SCOTT, PUT ON THAT PROGRAM COMMISSION. RIGHT. AND, UM, WE HAVEN'T WORKED OUT ANY KIND OF A CONTRACT WITH RW BECK, BUT THAT'S WHO HAD PRESENTED, UM, THIS STUDY TO US. AND SO, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO START WORKING ON THAT SOME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. I WANNA GET THE NEGOTIATION UP AND GOING, AND THEN WE'LL START WORKING ON SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. UM, DID YOU, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE TIRES YET? WE DID. OKAY. WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT. OKAY. UM, AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COPY BECAUSE YOU WERE REALLY INVOLVED IN, IN THAT THAT'S THE LETTER THAT STATED THAT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE MONEY. UM, [00:05:01] I'VE ALSO GOT A COPY OF HOW ALL OF THE GRANTS WORKED OUT. UM, THEY'RE JUDGED BY 35 DIFFERENT CITY, MUNICIPAL, UH, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE COMPANIES. AND THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH MONEY. AND THIS TIME THERE WAS 1,000,200 $92,517 TO GIVE. AND SO THE TWO GRANTS THAT WE GOT WERE REALLY IN THE MIDDLE. IF YOU LOOK, COMPTON COUNTY GOT BOTH OF 'EM, GRANT, AND THEN CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE WAS KIND OF IN BETWEEN US, BUT THIS IS HOW THE, THE GRADING GOES. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW WE GET GRANTS, JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL THEY'RE WRITTEN AND IF THEY EXPLAIN THEMSELVES WELL ENOUGH. AND IF THESE 35 PEOPLE THINK THAT WE HAVE A WORTHY CAUSE. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAME OUT ON THE BACKSIDE. IT SHOWS HOW OUR OTHER ONES PLACED IN, THEY PLACED IN THE BOTTOM YOU. SO IT WAS JUST, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S LACK OF THE DRAW, BUT IT IS, IT DEPENDS ON WHO'S JUDGING THEM AND WHO THINKS WHAT IS IMPORTANT AT THE TIME. UM, I ALSO PUT IN YOUR PACKAGE, UH, A LISTING OF THE DIFFERENT, THE FOUR GRANTS THAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. AND I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER EVERY SINGLE THING, BUT WE HAVE A COMPOST AWARENESS AND EDUCATION GRANT. UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE PRECINCT FOR ECO STATION PUBLICITY SUPPORT THAT WE'RE DOING, PLUS THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT FROM COG TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE STATION. AND WE, UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF PUBLICITY ON THAT, TRYING TO GET AS MANY PSAS IN THE PAPER AS WE CAN, ARTICLES. UM, WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE CHARGING SYSTEM, HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. UM, COMMISSIONER LER HAS, YOU'VE LINED IT SO FAR, AND WE ARE AT THE POINT OF GETTING, UH, WAITING FOR THE BID NEXT. THE BID WOULD BE CLOSED ON THE 15TH AND OPENED ON THE 18TH. ALRIGHT. AND WHAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THE CEMENT WORK AND GET THE ELECTRICAL AND EVERYTHING AND ALSO GET IT READY FOR THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, SITE SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KIND OF PROBABLY SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY ON SOME OTHER THINGS. SO HOPEFULLY, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND GET THAT WE'VE GOT IT AT THE RIGHT TIME. BECAUSE IN THE FENCING, UH, I ALLOW THE SPACE, THE 50 FEET, 50 FOOT DISTANCE MM-HMM . UH, SO IT'S GONNA BE DOWN THERE AND RIGHT. AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET A LESS EXPENSIVE BUILDING BECAUSE OF IT BEING ABLE TO BE FARTHER AWAY JUST IN CASE IT EXPLODES OR SOMETHING. IT WOULD BE AWAY FROM WHERE ANYBODY WOULD NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, BE LIKE THE PERSON THAT'S JUST RUNNING THE STATION WILL BE UP THE HILL FROM THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL GONNA BE WORKED ON PROBABLY AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO GET THIS OTHER UP AND RUNNING AND DOING, UM, DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. UM, THE COMPOST EDUCATION, WE'RE GOING INTO THE SCHOOL ROOMS. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE YMCA, WE'VE GOT A BROCHURE, UM, THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT WE'LL HAVE OUT. AND WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE KAUFMAN COUNTY ZERO GARDEN AND GETTING THAT LITTLE AREA THAT WE NEVER REALLY PUT, WE HAD IT TOGETHER, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO UPDATE IT. SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO MAKE THAT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER, PUT SOME NEW CONTAINERS OUT. AND THAT WILL BE, UM, WORKED ON THIS FALL BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO HOT OVER THE SUMMER TO ASK ANYBODY TO BE UNDER, UNDER SOME DEGREES TRYING TO DO THAT. UM, I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ECO STATION AND THEN THE HAZARD HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE SITE. UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE, I'LL BE RECORDING ON THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. AND THEN THE LANDFILL STUDY WILL BE WORKING ON ALSO. UM, SOMETHING THAT I PUT TOGETHER REAL QUICKLY THIS MORNING WAS, UH, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH MONEY, UM, IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE CO-OP THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN. AND, UM, FOR WITH GRANTS IT'S BEEN 582,000, UH, $250 OR $250,000, SORRY. AND, UM, THE, UH, THE CO-OP SAY THAT, SAY THAT AGAIN. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M SAYING IT WRONG. 582,250. OKAY. AND THEN THE, UM, PREVIOUS TO WHEN I GOT THERE, WE HAD, THEY HAD BROUGHT IN ABOUT 800,000, SO WE'RE WAY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTY. SO I'M HOPING THAT, [00:10:01] THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR THE COUNTY. DID YOU MENTION YOUR TRASH BASH? UH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH PUBLICITY? PROBABLY NOT. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THINGS IN THE PAPER AND I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS IN THE PAPER AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, JUST, UM, KIND OF A LOT FOR PEOPLE TO, TO UNDERSTAND OR KNOW. WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING, UM, ON SATURDAY TO CLEAN UP COUNTY ROAD. WELL, IT'S FOR FARM TO MARKET 30 39, AND IT'S DOWN BY THE EAST FOURTH OF THE TRINITY RIVER. WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. IT IS CALLED THE TRINITY RIVER TRASH BASH. AND IT IS A STATEWIDE PROGRAM. UM, SO IT'S A LAKE AND RIVER CLEANUP, BUT IN THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS AREA, THEY TRY TO GO OUT TO THE TRINITY RIVER ON ALL THE FORKS OF THAT AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES. SO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CITIES WILL BE WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM. AND, UM, WE ARE MEETING AT NINE O'CLOCK AT CRANDALL HIGH SCHOOL. THEY, THEY'RE FRONT, WHEN YOU PULL IN, WE'LL BE RIGHT THERE. AND WE START AT NINE O'CLOCK WITH REGISTRATION. WE INVITE EVERY GROUP, BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUTS, UM, WITH LIONS CLUB OUT THERE FOR CREOLE AND COMBINE. AND THIS IS NOT JUST A PRECINCT FOUR ACTIVITY, THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM. THIS IS TO CLEAN UP OUR WATERWAYS. UM, WATER IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW, AND WE NEED TO KEEP IT CLEAN. AND, UM, ALL OF THE TRASH THAT GETS THROWN ON THE GROUND, THERE ARE RESIDUES THAT GO INTO OUR GROUNDWATER AND WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THAT AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT NOW. SO WE'LL BE OUT THERE DOING CLEANUP. THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP WILL BE WITH US. AND, UM, JUST HELPING. IT'LL GROW A LITTLE BIT EVERY YEAR. SHE HAS VERY GOOD GRAPPLES. YEAH, I HAVE GRAPPLED AND I'VE NEVER WON THAT UMBRELLA. , YOU HAVE NOT GOT ME UMBRELLA YET. I'M TELLING YOU. WELL, I'M SORRY, BUT YOU HAVE TO COME. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOW, HOW CLOSE TO THE TRAIN DID Y'ALL GET? WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN AND PASSED THE TRINITY. UM, THE HUNT JUST LET US GO ON KIND OF ONTO THEIR PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T LET PEOPLE GET DOWN INTO THE RIVER DOWN WHERE THE WATERMARK ARE. . RIGHT. UM, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T WANT ANY PROBLEMS BECAUSE THERE ARES SOME HUGE RIGHT. AND I'M SURE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. BUT, BUT WE'VE CLEANED THE ROAD MOSTLY AND THAT ALL GOES DOWN INTO THE RIVER WHEN GRANTS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE CLEANING THAT UP. UH, THESE TWO, UH, GRANTS THAT SHE HAS, THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED, HOW MUCH ARE THEY FOR? WHICH ONE? UH, THE ONE, THE ONE FOR, YEAH, THE ONE FOR THE, UM, HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE IS FOR 73,000. AND THE, UH, ONE FOR THE, UH, ORDINANCE STUDY AND OR TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE IS 25,000. SO IT WAS JUST ABOUT, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND THIS TIME. AND LAST TIME WE GOT A HUNDRED FOR THE CONVENIENCE STATION, 44 PUBLICITY AND EDUCATION AND, UM, 39,000 FOR THE COMPOST. SO THAT'S JUST IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. PLUS WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN, UM, $10,000 IN THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR, FROM THE FOREST US, THE TEXAS FORESTRY SERVICE FOR, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS. WE GAVE OUT A LOT OF TREES. AND THEN ALSO WE PUT TOGETHER AN EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT THE TEACHERS CAN USE AND WE CAN GO INTO THE SCHOOLS ON URBAN FORESTRY. AND, UM, WE ARE, WE BELONG TO A-U-S-D-A PROGRAM. IT'S CALLED BLUE VOMITS, UH, RCMD. AND THAT PROGRAM WE'VE WON ABOUT, UM, $1,250 NOW FROM THEM IN GRANT FUNDING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO WE'RE GOING, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS. WE'RE REACHING OUT, TRYING TO FIND MONEY IN OTHER LOCATIONS ALSO FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VOTE. GOOD WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, IS LARRY HERE? LARRY YOUNG? ANYBODY FROM LARRY'S OFFICE HERE? HE ASKED ME TO SUGGEST THE BURN BAND WAS DONE FOR 60 DAYS. HE WANTS TO JUST CONTINUE. SO HE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE TODAY? NO. HE'S ON A STRUCTURED 20. UH, FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, WONDERING IF THE BURN BAND GONNA BE LIFTED. RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. [00:15:01] IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO DOING THIS, UH, COUPON TYPE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK? DID YOU DISCUSS, DON'T MEET WITH HIM THIS WEEK, AND YOU, MR. AND LARRY, Y'ALL THIS WEEK I MET WITH THEM AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU JUST WAIT, BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE LIFTED TODAY, . THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO, UH, WELL, RATHER THAN DO IT FOR ANOTHER THIRD DAY, SHE WANT TO JUST KEEP IT IN EFFECT FOR ANOTHER WEEK, FOR TWO WEEKS AND SEE, BECAUSE IT RAINS AGAIN TONIGHT AND NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONDAY, BE A DIFFERENT PICTURE. TWO WEEKS, TAKE A LOT OF RAIN, BUT TWO WEEKS, UH, LET'S PUT, LET'S EXTEND IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK AND LOOK AT IT NEXT WEEK AND SEE IF IT, IF IT RAINS ANY AT ALL AND SEE WHERE WE'RE, UH, ALRIGHT. WE'LL EXTEND THE MOTION THEN TO EXTEND THE BURN BAN FOR, UH, ONE WEEK FROM TODAY AND BE BACK ON THE AGENDA. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER RED, SAY BY COMMISSIONER DUN. ANY DISCUSSION? IT'S STILL AWFULLY DRY AND ALL YOU HAVE DRIVE DOWN EVEN FAR TO MARKET ROADS AND THE CRACKS OR HORRENDOUS, UH, UH, IT'S, EVERYTHING IS TAKEN BEAT. I THINK LARRY WAS ANTICIPATING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE BACK THEN THAT IT WOULD BE RAINING THE DAY FROM THE WEATHER WE GOT LAST WEEK. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, UH, I HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, I THINK FOR NEXT, NEXT MONDAY. ACCEPT THE FIRE CODE, UH, AS OF ONE OCTOBER AND THAT TICKET THING WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMIT WILL BE IN THERE. THEY'LL BE IN THERE. SO FACT ONE GO ONLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY, WHICH COMES TO SHOVE, BUT RIGHT NOW THE MOTION BEEN MADE FOR ONE MORE WEEK. ALL IN FAIR MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, MA'AM IS HOW JONES, OUR COUNTY AUDITOR, TO BRING US THE REPORT FOR AUGUST. THANK YOU. HOW? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT REPORT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. LET'S TAKE, UH, WE NEED TO SKIP, UH, NINE 10. NO, THE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MINUTES THAT I, OKAY, LET'S, UH, MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 12, JACK DISCUSSING CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR R LT FOR LEGAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. UH, I ALL YOU JUST WANT PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE TO LPS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. WELL, THIS TIME, AND WE NEED TO GET, GET IT DONE. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND ON THAT SUBJECT, I'M GONNA POINT OUT ALL OF THIS SAVINGS WE'RE PLANNING ON PUBLIC DEFENDERS, UH, CAPITAL MURDER TRIAL WHEN THEY JUST POP UP OUT OF FAIR BLUE SKY, UM, MAY THROW A MONKEY RED S**T. AND, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY WILL THE PLANNING TO SAVE? WELL, FOR SURE, HOPEFULLY WHAT WE SAVE ON THE THIRD DEGREES AND STATE JAILS, MISDEMEANORS WILL MAKE UP FOR YET. MURDER TRIALS. EXPENSIVE. YEAH. EXPENSIVE. OKAY. YOU WANNA DO THE A DEAL WHILE YOU THERE? YES. NEXT ONE. CONSIDER EMPLOYING ARCHITECT FOR INNOVATION WORK AT THE COURTHOUSE LOCATED 100 WEST MULBERRY . AND, UH, PER OUR DISCUSSION LAST WEEK'S WORKSHOP, UM, SEEKING PERMISSION TO, UH, HIRE A ARCHITECT. NOW YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY MET SOME, GOT SOME? YES, SIR. ONE COMPANY I'VE GOT A COUPLE AT, [00:20:01] IT MAY TAKE ABOUT A WEEK OR SO. YOU JUST WRAPPED UP. IS THIS FOR THE ENEX SOUTH ENEX OR WHATEVER? THIS IS OVER HERE, REMODEL. FOUR FOUR. DO WE WANT TO HAVE A YEAH, ARE WE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THAT? OH, UH, YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SEE IF RAY CLARK'S HERE, HE HAS VOLUNTEERED TO SORT OF BE A GO BETWEEN OR A LIAISON PERSON BETWEEN THE ARCHITECT, THE ENGINEER AND THE CONTRACTOR AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT. UH, IF SO, I'D LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT AND SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS ABOUT THAT. UH, HE DOES THAT KIND OF BUSINESS. HE'S DONE THAT BEFORE. IT WOULD TAKE MAYBE SOME OF THE LOAD OFF OF, UH, OFF OF A COMMISSIONER SO HE KNOWS. I KNOW. THROW THAT OUT. HE KNOWS THE BUSINESS. I GUESS THAT'S, SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS ABOUT IT. SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENT AS HE, AS DO YOU, YOU WANT, ARE YOU ASKING PERMISSION TO, TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND HIRE THE ARCHITECT? YES, SIR. OR YOU WANT I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR PERMISSION TODAY TO CONTRACT WITH AN ARCHITECT. OKAY. ONE THAT YOU'VE ENTERED ON, SOMEBODY THAT YOU'VE INTERVIEWED THAT YOU PICKED, PICKED THE BEST. OKAY. AT THAT POINT WE'LL GET THE BALL ROLLING ON. ALL RIGHT. WELL FIRST LET ME RESPOND TO THAT THEN. AND, UH, MAKE THAT MOTION. MAKE THAT MOTION. YES. AND COMMISSIONER JONES. SECOND. IT ONLY FAVOR AYE A. ALRIGHT. THAT GIVES JACK THOSE A OPPOSED, IT GIVES JACK THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHO HE THINKS IS BEST FOR THAT PROJECT. OKAY. AND THEN I WAS GONNA BRING UP THE BUSINESS ABOUT RAY, UH, MR. CLARK. UH, SORT OF BEING A GO BETWEEN, BETWEEN US AND CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT'S PLEASE EVERYBODY. WHAT DO YOU AGREE TO THAT IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? SAY THAT THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. SO NEED TO MAKE REQUEST ITEM AGENDA. OKAY. JACK, IS THAT ALL YOU NEED RIGHT NOW? YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE MORE. OKAY, WE'VE GOT TWO MINUTES. CAN YOU GET IT DONE IN TWO MINUTES? . ALRIGHT. IS THAT THE DECLARING CONTEXT? COMMUNICATION SOLE SOURCE BENDOR FOR PHASE TWO? YES, SIR. FOR WIRELESS I PORTABLE NETWORK ACCESS FOR VEHICLE BASED OPERATIONS PROJECT? YES, SIR. IT'S, AND JUST TO, UH, UPDATE YOU, AND THIS IS, UH, WE DID PHASE ONE BACK IN APRIL OF OH FIVE. AND, UH, THIS IS FOR PHASE TWO. THIS IS ALL FOR GRANT MONEY AND IT'LL BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, SO SOURCE AS IT'S, YOU CAN ADJUST A PHASE OF ONE I THINK MIGHT IMPORTANT. WE HAVE SAME AMENDMENT. DO BOTH, BOTH, UH, JOBS OF ALL. YEAH. TALK TO EACH OTHER. WANT CHANGE? YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN. AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'VE GOT 10 O CLARK HAVE COMMENT? NO. UH, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, MOVE INTO A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 2006 SEVEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER S SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER ALL FIRST ACT. MOTION CARRIES. SO WE'LL MOVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING IF ANY OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK, UH, REGARDING THE 2006 2007 TAX RATE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP AND THERE'S A SIGN IN SHEET, UH, AND YOU CAN SIGN IN AND, UH, UH, EACH PERSON SIGNS UP AND GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YEAH, RIGHT HERE ON THE, UH, ON THE PODIUM HERE. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, JERRY, COULD YOU, UH, YOU'RE UP. COULD YOU HAND [00:25:01] ME A SHEET, PLEASE, JERRY? NO, I SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHEN YOU HEAR HEARING YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, JEFFREY DAVIS THAT LIVES AT EIGHT, UH, 8 0 2 6 COUNTY ROAD. 1 46 KAUFMAN? YES. YOUR 90, I GIVE THREE MINUTES. COMMISSIONER SCOR, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, UH, COUNTY TAX RATING PROPOSAL INCREASE. I SAW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE AND COMMISSIONER LEONARD BOTH VOTED AGAINST RAISING THE COUNTY TAXES. AND I CONCUR WHETHER THEIR, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, THEIR, THEIR DECISION. UH, MY FEELING IS THAT THE COUNTY IS, CONTINUES TO INCREASE THEIR SPENDING. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT LAST YEAR THE, THE STATE LEGISLATOR GAVE US A PROPERTY TAX RESPITE FOR SCHOOL TAXES. AND NOW THE COUNTY WANTS TO TAKE A PIECE OF THAT BACK. AND WITH THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY EVALUATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN CAL AND TER, I FEEL THAT THIS IS NOT A CONSTRUCTIVE THING, ESPECIALLY SINCE I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SEEING WHERE OUR COUNTY MONEY IS GOING. AND I REALLY DON'T THINK A TAX RATE AT THIS TIME IS THE THING TO DO. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS. JUDGE, WE, UH, NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP, SO WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN AND MOVE FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK TO OUR RECORD MEETING. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION TO CARRIES. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, CHUCK HERE. CHUCK KIMBRO. HE'S IN FRONT. I THINK HE'S DOWN THERE IN MY OFFICE. THINK YOU WADE. YOU'LL GO GET HIM. SHERIFF, I THINK, UM, WADE'S GOING TO GET CHUCK. OKAY, OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON THE TAKING IMPACT ASSESSMENT REGARDING PROPOSED GOVERNMENT ACTION, KAMAN COUNTY ROAD PROJECT MAP ROAD PROJECT CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2 58 OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE. AND WE HAVE MR. CHUCK KIMBRO FROM AFF HEATH POLL LAW FIRM OUT OF AUSTIN THAT'S GOING TO GUIDE OUR DISCUSSIONS THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMISSION. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. UH, DO YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU? THE PROPOSED SAFETY IMPACT ASSESSMENT? THE CHAPTER 2 58 PROCEDURE WAS ORIGINALLY PROMULGATED AS, UH, HOUSE BILL 1117 IN 2003, REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND IT ALLOWS A COUNTY TO CLARIFY ITS EXISTING PUBLIC INTEREST IN, UH, COUNTY ROADS. SO WE'RE NOT REFERRING TO, UH, STATE HIGHWAYS OR ROADS INSIDE CITIES. UM, BUT THERE BECOMES A QUESTION EVERY COUNTY MUST ADDRESS AT THE BEGINNING OF ONE OF THESE PROJECTS AS TO WHETHER, UH, THE, UH, THE GOVERNMENTAL, UH, THE, THE LOCAL, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISION REGARDING THE TECHIES ACT HAS BEEN COMPLIED WITH. WE GAVE YOU BACK IN THE SPRINGTIME A MEMORANDUM INDICATING OUR POSITION ON THAT MATTER. AND, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT NOTE TAKING IS IMPLICATED BY THE PROPOSED GOVERNMENTAL ACTION. AND SO YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU NOW THE TAKINGS IMPACT ASSESSMENT REGARDING PROPOSED GOVERNMENTAL ACTION. AND THEN IT REFERENCES THE COUNTY ROAD PROJECT. UM, THE [00:30:01] STATUTE IN PLAY FOR THE APPROPRIATE STATUTE IS CHAPTER 2007 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. AND, UM, THERE ARE, UH, GUIDELINES PUT OUT PROMULGATED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THAT GUIDES ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN TEXAS AS TO HOW TO DO A TAKE IMPACT ASSESSMENT. AND THIS DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU DOES THAT. AND SO IF YOU'LL GO DOWN TO THE QUESTION AND ANSWER SEQUENCE THERE ON, AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE AND PAGE TWO AND PAGE THREE IS THE SIGNATURE LINE PROPOSED ALONG WITH THE FOOTNOTES. UM, WE SUGGEST THAT THREE MAIN QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE COURT. NUMBER ONE IS THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY UNDERTAKING THIS PROPOSED ACTION, A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY COVERED BY THE, THE ACT CHAPTER 2007 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, YOU GO TO PAGE TWO. IS THE PROPOSED ACTION TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY THE COVERED GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND ACTION COVERED BY THE ACT, IN OTHER WORDS, A COVERED GOVERNMENTAL ACTION? WELL, SURELY THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE IS YES. THE PROJECT WILL INVOLVE, UH, AN ORDINANCE RULE, REGULATORY REQUIRE RESOLUTION, POLICY GUIDELINE, OR SIMILAR MEASURE BEING FINALLY ENACTED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF THE COUNTY. SO THUS, A CHAPTER 2 58 PROCEDURE, UH, IS A COVERED GOVERNMENTAL ACTION. NOW, CARRYING ON NUMBER THREE, DOES THE COVERED GOVERNMENTAL ACTION RESULT IN A BURDEN ON PRIVATE REAL PROPERTY? AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED BY CHAPTER 2007? AND IT'S OUR POSITION OF OPINION, THE INTEREST IS NO FOR THE REASONS STATED, UH, A, B, C AND D. UH, THE INTEREST IN REAL PROPERTY BEING CLARIFIED IS AN EXISTING PUBLIC INTEREST OVER ACCESS REGARDING ROADS IN THE, UH, ON THE FINAL ADOPTED COUNTY ROAD MAP. SECONDLY, ANY INTEREST BEING CLARIFIED BY THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE MAP IS AN EXISTING PUBLIC INTEREST IN A PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ALREADY EXISTS UNDER THE LAW. NO NEW PUBLIC INTEREST ARE PURPORTED TO BE CREATED OR ESTABLISHED OR TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY BY THE PROJECT C. NO NEW BURDENS OR RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE OR CREATED BY THE PROJECT WITH RESPECT TO ANY PRIVATE REAL PROPERTY. AND FINALLY, D NO TAKING OF PRIVATE REAL PROPERTY OR RIGHTS. PRIVATE PROPERTY AS DEFINED BY CHAPTER 2007 WILL OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE FINAL COMPLETION AND ADOPTION OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. SO WE RECOMMEND THAT THE COURT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS NOTED AND, UH, PASS, APPROVE AND ADOPT THE TIA. THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT IN OUR LINE. ANY QUESTIONS? I SHOULD MENTION THIS. ONCE THE COURT TAKES ACTION, UH, THE DOCUMENT ITSELF IS GOING TO BE APPROVED, UH, SIGNED BY THE COURT AND PLACED ON FILE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. AND THEN A NOTICE IS, UH, PUBLISHED INDICATING THAT THE TIA HAS BEEN PERFORMED. AND IF ANYBODY WHO WANTS A COPY OF OR WANTS TO REVIEW IT TO GO TO MS SHOE'S OFFICE AND TAKE A LOOK, ALL THOSE COPIES I JUST HANDED DOWN, IF Y'ALL CAN BRING THEM BACK UP OR AT LEAST SIGN, SIGN AND THEN WE'LL CIRCULATE 'EM ALL. WE GET 'EM ALL SIGNED. OKAY. SO JUDGE, THESE MAPS WILL BE ON FILE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND ANYONE THAT HAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THEIR ROAD IS A COUNTY ROAD OR A CITY ROAD OR CAN THEY COME UP HERE AND LOOK AT THOSE AND YES, SIR. DETERMINE FROM THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. AND, AND THEY CAN ALSO COME UP AND LOOK AT THAT DOCUMENT YOU'RE FIXING TO SIGN NOW, WHICH IS THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER. BUT YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. YOU HAVE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THIS, THIS TIA YOU, YOU MUST VOTE TO APPROVE IT WOULD ENTERTAIN THE MOTION ON THIS TIAI MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. MORE DISCUSSIONS ALL IN YE MOTION, CARRIE, BASED UPON THAT APPROVAL AND THE SIGNATURE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE, THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE FILED WITH MS. HUGS OFFICE AND ANYBODY CAN GO LOOK AT IT AND GET A COPY OF IT FOR THE APPROPRIATE CHARGES. AND THEN YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER RABBIT, WHERE ARE THE MAPS GOING TO BE? WELL, ONCE THE COUNTY, UH, ADDRESSES THE KICKOFF OF, OF THE PROJECT, WHICH I ASSUME IS GONNA BE LATER ON TODAY IN THIS MEETING, I BELIEVE THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM FOR, UH, UH, THE PROPOSED MASKS ARE GONNA BE, UH, ON FILE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. SO EVERYBODY SHOULD GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. GREAT. [00:35:01] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, JUDGE, I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. THAT'S OKAY. UM, UH, I, FIRST I APPRECIATE, UH, MR. STAFF, HE'S SMILING FOR WORKING WITH US. IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND, AND, UH, I THINK WE DID IT IS IT'S, IT IS GONE OVER, GONE OVER FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND WE ESPECIALLY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT LAST WEEK. BUT, UH, THE GUIDELINES, I MEAN FROM, FROM, UH, THEIR ADVICE, IT'S EASIER TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE MAP THAN TO GET IT ON THE MAP AFTER THE FACT. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK I, I AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE WENT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO INCLUDE IT THAN, THAN, THAN NOT TO INCLUDE IT. SO I'D ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE MAPS AND IF THEY FEEL LIKE WE MADE A MISTAKE, LET US, LET US KNOW. BUT IT'S, IT'S A BIG PROJECT AND, AND, UM, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE AREN'T PERFECT. UH, BUT I, I'D ENCOURAGE PUBLIC TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND, AND, UH, DOUBLE, DOUBLE CHECK OUR, UH, DOUBLE CHECK THE MAP, MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S CORRECT. YOUR HONOR, THERE IS A PUBLIC NOTICE FORM, UH, THAT I BELIEVE IS IN YOUR PACKET. I HAVE A COPY OF IT. WE NEED TO BE SIGNED AND DATED TODAY WITH, UH, TODAY'S DATE BEING INSERTED IN THE BLANK AT THE TOP. I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH THE STAFF, UM, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING ON THAT, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE COURT'S TAKING IMPACT ASSESSMENT FINDING TODAY THAT WILL NEED TO BE POSTED AND THE COURTHOUSE AS WELL AS, UH, PUBLIC. UH, CHUCK, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS WHERE WE GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE THE PURSUANCE OF IT, I BELIEVE IS DISCUSSING, CONSIDER PROVING THE RESOLUTION, DECLARING COUNTY INTENT TO CLARIFY THE EXISTENCE OF A PUBLIC INTEREST IN CERTAIN COUNTY ROADS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2 58 OF THE ATION CODE. YES, SIR. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT GUYS. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LETTER THERE. THE, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU HAS A BLANK IN IT, AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. THE COURT NEEDS TO DECIDE TODAY WHEN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WILL OCCUR IN 2007 AS THE COURT OR THE STAFF DETERMINED WHEN THAT MEETING DATE AND TIME AND LOCATION SHOULD BE, WILL BE ON PAGE TWO OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION. WOULD SIX MONTHS BE APPROPRIATE? WELL, IT, IT NEEDS, WE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF 2007, SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH. AND I WILL TELL YOU, I LOOKED AT MY SCHEDULE, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THE LAST WEEK OF FEBRUARY, I HAVE A, UH, A SIMILAR MEETING IN A COUNTY IN NORTH TEXAS. AND, UH, ON THE, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, I THINK IT'S THE LAST MEETING IN MARCH, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. SO IF YOU COULD DO THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, THAT'D WORK PRETTY GOOD. ME THAT WORK FOR OUR SCHEDULE. BUT BETWEEN ME AND TOM POLL, WE, WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY HERE THAT DO, THAT'D BE THE FIRST MONDAY MEETING IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH. WHICH ONE? MARCH? I RECORD MARCH. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE MARCH THE FIFTH OR FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY, MARCH. MARCH OR EARLY FEBRUARY. EITHER EARLY FEBRUARY OR EARLY MARCH PERIOD. MARCH THE FIFTH. MARCH 5TH, 2007. WHAT PERIOD OF TIME DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE FIRST ONE? FOR THE SECOND? WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON IT. UH, ACTUALLY WHAT THE WAY IT GOES IS, UH, AT THIS PUBLIC MEETING THAT YOU'RE FIXING TO SET TODAY, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PROTEST A ROAD BEING ON THE MAP CAN SIGN A PROTEST PAPER BEFORE THAT MEETING AND FILE IT WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE OR SHOW UP THAT DAY, SHOW UP AT THIS, THIS MEETING THAT YOU'RE GONNA SET AND LODGE AN ORAL PROTEST ON THE RECORD. CHAPTER 2 58 INDICATES THAT IF SUCH A PROTEST IS MADE ORALLY OR IN RIGHT, THEN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS OBLIGATED TO APPOINT FIVE DIS [00:40:01] DISINTERESTED FREEHOLDERS OF THE, OF THE COUNTY THAT COMPRISE A JURY OF VIEW, UH, THAT DECIDE THE ISSUE WITH A HEARING WERE BOTH SIDES HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT LIVE EVIDENCE OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE SUPPORTING, UH, THEIR RESPECTIVE POSITIONS. AND WHATEVER DECISION THAT JURY VIEW MAKES IS FINAL AND BINDING ON THE COUNTY. BUT Y'ALL HAVE TO HAVE ONE HEARING AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED YES. FOR THE COURT. BUT, BUT BETWEEN THAT DAY, LET'S SAY IT'S THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, THE STATUTE SAYS THAT ALL JURY REVIEW PROCEEDINGS MUST BE ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE THE 90TH DAY FROM THAT MEETING DAY. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONCE, ONCE YOU HAVE THAT HEARING, IF SOMEONE COMES IN, THEN IT'S GOTTA BE DONE THEN. AND YOU LEAVE WITHIN THE 90 DAYS THE JURY OF REVIEW. RIGHT. AND THEN AFTER, UH, JURY OF REVIEW PROCEEDINGS ARE CONCLUDED, IF ANY, THE FINAL, THE NEXT FINAL STEP IS A, UM, UH, A FINAL MAP ADOPTION MEETING WHERE THE, THE FINAL MAP IS PRODUCED AND FORMALLY APPROVED, UH, BY A MAJORITY VOTE IN A, IN A REGULAR ON THE RECORD VOTING MEETING. OKAY. SO THE MAIN, MAIN THING NOW IS THAT WHEN WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, MR, WE ALSO SET THE TAPE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT FOR MARCH 5TH. AND WE NEED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW TODAY. UM, YES SIR. THE RESOLUTION THAT I PREPARED HAS THAT BLANK IN IT. AND IF, IF THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE VOTE, TECHNICALLY YOU CAN VOTE TWICE ON IT IF YOU WANTED TO. YOU JUST PUT IT IN ONE DOCUMENT. I'LL JUST MOTION MARCH 5TH. MARCH 5TH. SO THE MOTION HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MASTER PROJECT ON MARCH APRIL 5TH, 10:00 AM 10:00 AM UH, 10:00 AM OKAY. 10:00 AM LEMME CHECK THAT. OKAY. IN THIS PLACE, RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. IF IT'S STILL HERE, . WELL, THE, THE MEETING DATE'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, IF FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER THE MEETING DOES NOT HAPPEN, THEN THE PROJECT CANNOT GO FORWARD THAT WE HAVE TO START OVER. IF THERE'S A LACK OF QUORUM, IF THERE'S A, UH, SOME OTHER REASON THAT WOULD PREVENT A MEETING FROM HAPPENING. SO IF MARCH 5TH IS A GOOD SOLID DAY, THAT'S THE ONE Y'ALL WANT TO DO IT. THERE'S SOME QUESTION THAT SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE, DON'T DO THAT DAY. OH, YEAH, THAT'S FAR AHEAD. I HAVE NO IDEA IN OUR SITUATION, AVAILABLE SPACE. SO YOU, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE. WE, WE WORK ON HOURS OF BOARD INTERRUPTED BY VOMIT OF SHEER PANTIES. , I UNDERSTAND. WE'LL BE HERE. THANK YOU. WE PROBABLY YOU HAVE A MOTION MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. DO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU MUCH FOR COMING UP THIS MORNING. YES, SIR. CAP, SHERRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TOO. SURE. GREAT. VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING BOND FOR SCOTT JAMES, QUICK COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPRO THE CREATION OF THE CHIEF CLERK POSITION WITH SALARY OF 28 5 FOR THE PUBLIC DEPARTMENT. DETECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST. KATHY, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? UH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL POSITION. THIS IS A POSITION THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY PATRICIA DANIEL, I'M JUST ASKING THAT SHE BE OFFICIALLY MADE A CHIEF CLERK OR SALARY BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. THE STATE IN THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS HAS INCREASED THEIR REQUIREMENTS PUT ON THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THE SUBJECT SYSTEMS GO. UM, BASICALLY IT'S THE AEROBIC, THE AEROBIC MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND TRACKING THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS AND TRACKING THE INSTALLERS. WE'RE REQUIRED NOW TO TRACK EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT PERFORMS MAINTENANCE ON A SYSTEM. EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT INSTALLS A SYSTEM MAKE SURE THAT THEIR LICENSES ARE CURRENT WHEN THEY TURN IN PAPERWORK. AND THIS IS, THIS HAS INCREASED HER WORKLOAD GREATLY. [00:45:01] WE'RE ALSO ASKING SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, THE WORKLOAD HAS CREATED, HAS INCREASED PROBABLY FROM GETTING TWO TO 300, UH, MAINTENANCE REPORTS A MONTH TO PROBABLY THOUSAND, UPWARD TO THOUSAND. AND HER DUTIES AND HER RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE INCREASED. I DO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON THAT HELPS HER OUT. UM, I THINK PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS AGO I ASKED HER BY SALARY, SHE PRECIOUS ENOUGH TO DO THAT AS SHE CAN. SHE'S DUE THE INCREASED WORKLOAD THAT SHE'S GOT AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT SHE HAS. UM, COURSE KEVIN AND I DISCUSSED THIS AND, UH, Y'ALL GENEROUSLY PLACED HER DEPARTMENT UNDER MEETING. UH, I COMMITMENTS IS NOT THE 2006 BUDGET SET TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THE DOCTOR. IS THIS MONEY IN YOUR SALARY? HAS IT BEEN PUT IN YOUR BUDGET? WELL, I'VE GOT A WELL SAY THAT. DON'T SAY THAT. DON'T SAY THAT. WHAT, WHAT I HAD ASKED FOR WAS, UH, A $5,000 FOR A PLOTTER FOR MAPPING. AND A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I WENT TO A 9 1 1 MEETING AT COBB AND DISCOVERED THAT IN THE MONIES THAT THE COUNTY GETS BACK FOR 9 1 1 ADDRESSING IT'S POSSIBLE TO BUY THAT WATER THROUGH THEM, WHICH I INTEND TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY BUYING IT. SO INSTEAD OF SPENDING $5,000 IN THE COUNTY TO BUY A QUARTER, IT WOULD BE $2,500 INCREASE TO GIVE HER THE SALARY THAT SHE, THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE OVERALL DECREASE IN THE BUDGET THAT I WAS ASKING FOR ABOUT 2,500. WELL, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER DELL'S CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH BUDGET PROCESS, SALARIES WERE SET AT THE TIME OF THE BUDGET. OF COURSE, PERSONALLY I'M THRILLED TO DEATH THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA REVISIT THE BUDGET. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS, I I DON'T THINK IT'S PROCEDURALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A SIMPLE MATTER OF IN THE COMMISSIONER'S MEETING, I MEAN THIS IS AMENDING THE PROPOSED BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE, UH, IT'S GONNA CHANGE THE SALARY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED, ALREADY BEEN POSTED, UH, REMIND POSITION. AND THOSE SALARIES ARE NOT, DO NOT HAVE TO BE NO ELECTED OFFICIALS. INCREASING ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES HAVE TO BE POSTED TO NOT WORKERS. THIS WILL NOT, THIS WILL NOT INCREASE SALARY STRUCTURE OR HER BUDGET. IT WON'T INCREASE HER BUDGET. WELL, WE CAN DO LINE ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT I'M, AS LONG AS IT DON'T INCREASE HER BUDGET, IDENTIFY IT INCREASES THE NUMBER OF BOTTOM LINE, IT WON'T DO THE WATER. I ALSO HAVE, UM, RESEARCHING THE WEATHER, THE WEATHER COMPUTER THAT WE HAVE. I THINK IT'S $1,200 A YEAR, WHICH IS DUE IN MAY, WHICH I PAID, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE PAID THIS MAY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICES UPGRADED THEIR WEBSITE. AND I'M LOOKING AT OTHER POSSIBILITIES FOR FREE WEATHER INFORMATION THAT WILL DO WHAT WE'VE GOT WITH THAT NOW AND JUST CONTINUING THAT SERVICE NOT RENEWING IN MAY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER $1,200 THAT I WON'T BE USING OUT OF MY BUDGET. BUT THAT 5,000 IS GONNA BE, UH, NOT USED PLANNING TO TAKE CARE OF. OH, ABSOLUTELY. FOR SALARY RIGHT NOW IS 26,000. CORRECT. DO YOU HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION? I THOUGHT I ATTACHED IT. I DIDN'T SEE ONE. SOME OF THE NEW ITEMS ON THERE THAT SHE'S HAVING TO DO THAT SHE DID NOT BEFORE WAS COORDINATE WITH INSTALLING MAINTENANCE COMPANIES TO VERIFY THAT HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS ARE ALLOWED TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE IF THEY GO PROCEDURES. UH, THAT'S NEW THIS YEAR. THE KEEPING INSTALLER LIST CURRENT, THAT'S VERIFYING THAT EVERY INSTALLER HAS A UNAUTHORIZED LICENSE BY THE STAGE. SHE HAS TO DO THAT. THAT'S NEW. UH, VERIFY THE INSTALLER IS A CURRENT LICENSE AND A CERTIFIED TO MAINTAIN THE TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT INSTALL ANOTHER PART OF THAT. AND NOW ALSO THEY HAVE TO DO, EVERY PERSON THAT PROVIDES MAINTENANCE THAT WORKS FOR AN INSTALL HAS TO BE CERTIFIED AND LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE. SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO VERIFY THAT INFORMATION TOO. SHE ALSO PREPARES, UH, COMPLAINTS BE FILED IN JP COURT AND THERE'S PROBABLY 60 OF THOSE A MONTH. SHE HAS TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE. UM, SHE HAS [00:50:01] SIGNS OF CORRESPONDENCE THAT SHE GENERATES ON HERSELF WITH HOMEOWNERS AND ALSO THE INSPECTOR HAS HER DO CORRESPONDENCE FROM HIM. UM, AND THE LAST ITEM THAT SHE TRAINED, SUPERVISES THE CLERK AND THE OFFICE PROCEDURES AND JOBS, JOB DUTIES. SHE ALSO HAS TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE PART-TIME PERSON WAS DOING BECAUSE THAT PERSON WAS REPORTING TO HER. JUDGE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE EVEN SAT OUR OWN ROUND TABLE AND WE FIGURED OUT WHERE WE COULD SAVE MONEY ON THE BUDGET AND WITH A VIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DOES EVERYBODY ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NEED WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. AND NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T POSITIVELY, ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE WHAT I ASKED FOR. AND NOW BEFORE THE BUDGET EVEN STARTS, WE'RE ASKING TO SWITCH MONEY AROUND AND, AND PUT IT IN A SALARY. I, I CAN'T, I MEAN, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE BUDGETING PROCESS, UH, HAS, HAS TAKEN PLACE AND IF, IF WE AMEND ONE, I MEAN WE CAN PUT, WE CAN PUT EVERY DEPARTMENT ON THE, ON THE AGENDA THAT DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THE BUDGET CAME OUT AND THEY HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, COME UP AND ASK THE, THE BUDGET BE AMENDED AS, AS, AS THIS DEPARTMENT. I, I CAN'T VOTE TO DO JUDGE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT HER OVERALL, UH, BOTTOM LINE BUDGET. UH, I, I WISH THAT THIS HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE, UH, THE BUDGET WAS COMPLETED ALSO. BUT IF IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT HER OVERALL BUDGET, UH, FIGURES, THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. YEAH, I, I THOROUGH AGREE EXACTLY WHAT I WISH IT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE. IF IT CHANGES THE BUDGET, THE BOTTOM LINE ON YOUR BUDGET, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. BUT I, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU DID A JOB DESCRIPTION AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT, UH, IT WON'T CHANGE YOUR BUDGET. SO I THINK I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT'S DONE, BUT I DON'T, I YEAH, I APOLOGIZE. I LIKE THE SUPPORT OF DEPARTMENT HEAD. UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SAY THIS DONE. I'M NOT, I I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE INFORMATION. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO. SO I ENTERTAIN THE MOTION. DE DE MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT. COMMISSIONER SECONDS. IT ALL FAVOR? AYE THOSE OPPOSED TWO, TWO COUNTY JUDGE VOTES. YES. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSED CONSIDERED BECOMING PART OF TEXT 21. UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE, I BELIEVE YOU REQUESTED THAT TO BE ON THE KIM MAYFIELD GROUP. IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? UH, YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. WE GOT A CALL FROM YOUR OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SAYING IF WE WANTED TO DIS DISCUSS IT. SO I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA THAT, UH, THE REASON I HADN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THE COST TO MOVE ON, I THOUGHT IT WAS RIDICULOUS. YEAH, IT WAS. IT WAS, IT WAS OVER 15,000. OH, I WAS, I WAS REMEMBER LIKE 50 IT A GROUP. NOBODY, IT'S A GROUP THAT COMMISSIONER MAYFIELD HAS PUT TOGETHER IN DALLAS COUNTY, UM, AND TO, UH, HELP AND SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. UH, AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE BELONG TO CASTLE GOVERNMENTS AND, AND THEY HAVE A, A HUGE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OVER THERE AND THEIR CONCERNS ARE, UH, TRANSPORTATION IN THIS NORTH TEXAS AREA. AND, UH, T DOT ALWAYS WORKS WITH US. SO I JUST FELT THAT, THAT'S WHY I HADN'T PUT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE BECAUSE UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT WE WOULD GET OUTTA IT. AND JUDGE NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY THE EXPENSE, IT'S PRIMARILY, UH, DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CITIES IN DALLAS COUNTY. AND BESIDES THE EXPENSE OF US JOINING, ALL WE'RE DOING IS LENDING OUR CREDIBILITY, YOU KNOW, OUR WHATEVER LITTLE BIT OF HORSEPOWER WE HAVE TO THE, TO THE BIG GROUP AND OUR FIGHT IS, I MEAN OUR, OUR FIGHT IS TO GET OUR FAIR SHARE RIGHT NOW. NOT TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, DALLAS COUNTY AND [00:55:01] CITIES AND DALLAS COUNTY TO GET MORE OF THE SHERIFF PIE FROM, FROM FROM THE PEN FUTURE OF THE STATE. AND I, I LOOKED AT IT TOO AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE WHERE KAMAN COUNTY BENEFITS AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT, IT MAYWELL HURTS. YEAH. WE DON'T NEED PUT ON THERE BY MY OFFICE. I DON'T THINK IT DID. WE DID ENTERTAIN MOTION THEN. UH, NOT TO BECOME PART OF TEXT 21 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DON SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN . AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES UH, NOTICE FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES VOTED TO UH, DO AWAY WITH FORCE LAUGHTER IN THE UNITED STATES FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION TO THE SENATE. BUT JERRY, WE DO HAVE A REPORT THAT THEY FILED FOR THE ENDING AUGUST 25TH. I SAW THAT JUDGE AND I ALSO SEE THAT THEY'RE PROCESSING MORE THAN THEY'RE BUYING SO THEY MAY BE GETTING READY FOR THAT. BUT UH, JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS REPORT. IS THERE A SECOND? 300. HOW MANY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL AYE DID WE CALL THIS SIR? WE HAVE PROPOSED LINE. I TRANSFER FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE TO INCREASE RETIREMENT. $600 IN THE JUDGE CLERICAL GENERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICE SUPPLIES INCREASE 3000. INCREASE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 2000 LEASE OF COPIER 1,400 ATTORNEY FEES. 2000. PRODUCTION IN SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF 8,000 WASTEWATER FEES OF 400 KP THREE. INCREASED EXTRA HEALTH. $406 PRODUCTION IN OFFICE. SUPPLIES OF 22. MILEAGE MEALS AND LODGING. 79. TRAINING EDUCATION OF 75 DUES 100 MISCELLANEOUS A ONE 30 TRADITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS. 300 REDUCTION IN MEDICAL EXAM. JURY FUND INCREASED SPECIAL COURT REPORTER. $710 REDUCTION IN GRAND JURY FEES. TAX ACCESSOR COLLECTOR AUTO INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES $259 DEDUCTION IN MILEAGE MILLS AND LOGIC MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. INCREASED JANITORIAL SUPPLIES 400 UTILITIES AND TARRO 300 JANITORIAL SERVICES FOR SUB COURTHOUSE. 200 UTILITIES AND COST OF 10,000 DEDUCTION IN MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING. 400. BUILDING REPAIRS OF 500 AND TRANSFERS OF 10,000. PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. INCREASED SOCIAL SECURITY. $620 FOR REDUCTION IN MAP PRINTING. FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE INCREASED TRAINING. EDUCATION $50 AND MISCELLANEOUS 159 WITH DEDUCTION OF RETIREMENT COSTS OF 2 0 9 CONSTABLE PRECINCT. THREE INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS. 100 IN PRODUCTION IN MILEAGE MILL AND LOGIC SHERIFF'S FUND INCREASED GAS AND OIL. 6,000 IN RADIO REPAIR. $175 WITH REDUCTION IN LIABILITY COSTS OF 6,000 1 75. THE JAIL FUND INCREASED MEDICAL EXAMS. 200 IN PRODUCTION IN MILEAGE WHEELS AND LOGIC CHARITIES. POOR AND RELIEF INCREASED STATEMENT FACTS 1500 WITH PRODUCTION OF ATTORNEY FEES. COMPUTER AREA. INCREASED GOVERNMENT SERVICE AUTOMATION 3030 $1 WITH REDUCTION IN COMPUTER REPAIRS OF 881 AND SOFTWARE GROUP COSTS OF 2001 50 GOLDEN BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE. INCREASE EXTRA HELP 1,523 WITH PRODUCTION IN RETIREMENT COSTS. GOLDEN BRIDGE PRECINCT. FOUR. INCREASED RENTAL EQUIPMENT, $100 FOR PRODUCTION IN BONDS. SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION. INCREASED HAULING COSTS. 1007 FOUR. A REDUCTION IN RETIREMENT. 1,330. COST OF 3 7 4. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE SOME, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES IN THE, IN THE UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE WITH ATTORNEY FEES OF $1,450. INCREASE CLERK FEES OF 250 IN ATTORNEY FEES OF 1200. UH, ESTABLISHING THE SHERIFF'S ASSET TURE FUND OF $47,580. AND A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER OF TAX NOTE FOR 500,000. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE SOME TRANSFERS TO ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT ACCOUNT. ALRIGHT Y'ALL THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST. WE TAKE A MOTION FOR MADE BY MR. SHANE, [01:00:01] SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TELLER. ALL IN CLEAR CARRIES Y'ALL LIKE TO HAVE A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY WITH MY BROTHER AND I RAN AND HE SAID, I JUST WANT TO REASSURE YOU THAT HE SAID I'M LIVING IN THE BUNKER. APPARENTLY ON THE BASE THEY HAVE A BUNKER THAT NOBODY ELSE WILL LIVE IN 'CAUSE THEY GET SCORPIONS IN IT AND UH, OF COURSE THEY'RE LIVING ABOVE GROUND. AND HE SAID, UH, HE SAID, I TOLD HIM I'M FROM TEXAS, I CAN DEAL WITH SCORPION. SO APPARENTLY HE HAS ALL KINDS OF SPACE TO HIMSELF DOWN IN THE BUNKER BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE IS LIVING. I'M GOING, GOOD IDEA. STAY THERE. , WE MOVED DA OVER HIM FLORIDA. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. FLORIDA. WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE MAINLAND CHEMICALS. THAT SERIOUS. GOOD IDEA, BUT WELL, SHE SAID SHE WAS GOING FROM 26, JIM, YOU KNOW, BACK IN SEVENTIES. I WORKED AT THE SUMMER AFTER I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL. SHE WHOLE, AND AT THAT TIME THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICUL AND WE HAD, I DIDN'T, WE HAD ONE GUY THAT HAD THIS SPREADER AND HE WOULD WALK AROUND AND TURN THIS, WE LIKE THIS DEAL LIKE A ALREADY. AND, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MEAN HE WOULD JUST BE COVERED FROM HIS TO WITH CHLORINE. I ASSUME HE'S STILL ALIVE TODAY. BUT I JUST THANK THE LORD I DIDN'T VOLUNTEER FOR THAT VIDEO. LOT OF THEM THINK WHAT THEY APPROVED. WELL THAT SAME GUY GOT FIRED THAT WAS SPREADING THE CHLORINE LATER ON. AND HE WAS SPREADING. HE WAS SPRAYING. WE KILLER. YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE ALL THE PLANTS ARE ON ROCK, YOU KNOW, BEDS OF ROCKS AND HE WAS SPRAYING WE KILLER. AND THEY FIRED HIM AT LIKE LUNCHTIME AND HE WAS GONNA BE FIRED AT THE END OF THE DAY. WELL GUESS WHAT HE DID WITH THE WEED KILLER THE DAY? OH YEAH. EVERY SPRAY PACKAGE. EIGHT, FIVE OR SALARY? 25 BASE SALARY. 5,000. TRICIA. THAT'D BE A FIVE RAISE PLUS HER LONGEVITY INCREASE PLUS HER, UH, INSURANCE FORECAST. FIVE 45,000 THERE. SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION RECONSIDER FROM THERE WAS, THERE WAS ANOTHER, WAS ANOTHER 1200 ISSUE. THERE WAS ANOTHER 1200 IN THERE. BUT CHECK IT OUT, JOHN. OKAY. YOU GOT 5,000 PLUS 1200. RIGHT? THAT'LL GET YOU THERE. I THINK WE DID WANT IT TO INCREASE THE BOTTOM LINE. DO YOU HAVE ANY BILLS? UH, YES SIR, I DO. NO, SOMETIMES I THINK THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE DO BUSINESS WITH THE COUNTY IS THEY WANT TO GET PAID. JACK LIKES IT. BUT ABUSE. OH, GOOD. MENTAL [01:05:04] 24. IT'S A LITTLE GAS IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS. 2 45. TWO FIVE. I WAS THINKING, UH, COMING OUT KEN . YEAH, IT WAS 2 33 YESTERDAY. REALLY? I THINK 2 35. UM, I, I, UH, I WAS REMINISCING. I WATCHED SUGARLAND EXPRESS THE MOVIE I WAS IN IN, WHEN I WAS A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS WATCHING THE MOVIE AND THEY WENT BY A GAS STATION. IT WAS 35 CENTS GALLON. YOU TAKE 12 AND YOU PROBABLY 5 CENTS DOWN. I REMEMBER 19 CENTS GALLON WHEN I WORKED IT AGAINST 29 CENTS WHEN WE LIVED IN CALIFORNIA. AND WE JUST, AND, AND IT COULD BE 27 CENTS. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. SOMETIME THEY HAD A GAS BAR, WE GOT DOWN TO 9 CENTS. OH MY GOD. BUT WE DON'T HAVE GAS ANYMORE. I SEEN, FIGURED OUT. I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHY GASOLINE IS NOT THE SAME AS EVERY STATION. THAT'S A TRUE REPORT. I HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT. YES. I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE THAT OUT. JUDY. THE ONE I CAN'T FIGURE OUT IS WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH MIDLAND, WHICH HAL YES SIR. AND THERE'S A GAS STATION RIGHT ON THE HIGHWAY THAT'S LITERALLY IN THE SHADOW OF THE REFINERY. I MEAN, AND GA AND ALL THEY GOTTA DO IS JUST RUN A PIPE FROM THE REFINERY TO THE FARM. AND GAS IS HIGHER THERE THAN IT IS IN DALLAS. I DON'T, I DON'T GET IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I TELL YOU THAT BACK IN THE MID SEVENTIES WHEN THEY HAD THE SHORTAGES IN MIDDLE ESA, THEY SET IN LINE FOR TWO HOURS. I'D GO TO A AND JUST PULL UP. THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Y'ALL SAY IT SOMETHING OUT THE MIDDLE. T WELL, AND WHEN YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE GAS, OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT HOW THEIR BRAND TO GAS IS BETTER. YOU WHAT? IT ALL COMES FROM THE SAME PLACE. WHOEVER'S REFINERY IS CLOSEST IS WHERE EVERYBODY'S GAS [01:10:28] AND YOU AND ON NINE 11, LAURIE IS ON THE AIRPLANE TO CHICAGO EVERY, OH GOD. THANK THIS IS A TERRIBLE DAY. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE SECURITY WILL BE? I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING. THE SECURITY WILL BE, YOU BETTER NOT TURN OR BREATHE THE WRONG, THEY'RE SCARED TO DEATH. I DUNNO. I, I, I, EVERYBODY, IN FACT, I GAVE THEM ALL VENDORS BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA BE THERE. YOU AND I'M THINKING PHONE SERVICE IN, I WAS REMODEL. I'VE GOT MY MOTHER-IN-LAW COME IN SATURDAY, SO HAS US REMODELING YESTERDAY I CUT SATURDAY, I CUT ALL THE BASEBOARD MOLDING. WE PUT LAMB FORWARD AND THEN I CUT CHAIR MOLDING AND I CUT CROWN MOLDING AND THAT CROWN MOLDING IS THERE. THAT'S HARD TO CUT SO MANY TIMES YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ANGLES ON THAT THING. YOU KNOW WHAT I LEARNED THE TRICK, THE, THE THREE CORNER, YOU KNOW, THREE QUARTERS ARE EASY. YOU JUST MAKE A MAKE UP. BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THAT LAST QUARTER, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DO. YOU CUT A PIECE ABOUT THIS LONG, MATCH IT IN THE CORNER AND THEN JUST MATCH UP. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID. THE STRAIGHT PIECE. AND I HAD TO CUT THAT PIECE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES. [01:15:01] YEP. I'VE BEEN THERE. TAKE THAT JIGSAW, THAT LAST PIECE. TWO OH I OR SOMETIMES THREE. WELL, I DIDN'T ATTRIBUTE IT TO MY GEOMETRY SKILLS. I I CHALK IT UP TO BEING A FOXING. DAVID BEEN TO SAN ANTONIO. WELL, I THEY GOT GO FOX. OH YEAH. MY UTILITY BILL LAST MONTH WAS ELECTRICITY. ELECTRICITY, ELECTRICITY. BUT THERE'S JUST TWO OF US. YOU GOT ELECTRONIC COMPUTER? NO, I, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY BECAUSE WE WERE REMODELING. THAT'S THEIR WATER. UM, HEY JUDY, IS IT, IS IT TRUE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THE CITY OF HAWAII'S GONNA START PUTTING THE BIGGEST WATER USERS IN THE PAPER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. . THEY MENTIONED THAT. THEY MENTIONED THAT THE OTHER NIGHT THAT THEY WERE START THEY START, THEY, THEY'RE FINES ARE JOKE. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE JUST POCKET, THEY'RE NOTHING COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. YOU NEED TO, YOU NEED TO GET, IF, IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TWO OR $3,000 FINE. YEAH. AND THERE NEEDS TO KNOW, AND THEY STARTED OFF BEING TOO, KIND OF JUST GIVING WARNING. YOU DON'T GIVE 'EM WARNINGS WITH THIS KIND, WITH THIS AS SERIOUS AS THIS IS, YOU GIVE SOME GOOD SOLID THICKET. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU WATERMELON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A BIG USER, YOUR WATER BILL SENT YOU $700, 200 FINES. NOTHING. YOU CARE. JUDGE, UH, RICHARD TOLD ME THERE WERE SOME HERE IN COFFMAN THAT HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS USAGE. WOW. AFTER SUPPOSED I TOLD I HAD, I USED TO HAVE A SAINT AUGUSTINE YARD. IF YOU STILL HAVE A SAINT AUGUSTINE AND IT'S GREEN, YOU'RE CHEAP. . MY YARD'S TERRIBLE. IT JUST LOOKS HORRIBLE. IT WAS SO GREEN. IT, IT JUST LOOKS JUST LIKE A DUMP. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. LET IT GO THERE AGAIN FOR ABOUT THE WEEDS POP, RIGHT? OH YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, I THINK WELL, WHEN YOU SEE DEAD BULL TREES ON OF THE COUNTY ROAD. NOT ONLY THAT, WHEN YOU SAID WHEN YOU SEE BUR THEY'RE HARD. THEY MAKE I HOPE. I HOPE, I HOPE, I MEAN, I, I I DON'T SEE WHY THOSE VICKY, SECOND VICKY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. THAT MAN RIGHT THERE JD. SECONDED BY THIS MAN HERE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. SO YOU PAY THE BILLS AND UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD. BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL OUTTA HERE. SEE Y'ALL NEXT MONDAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.