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PLEASE, UH, COMMISSIONER LEONARD, WOULD YOU OPEN US UP TODAY PLEASE? FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RAIN, AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU EVEN IF YOU KNOW OUR NEEDS BEFORE WE EVEN ASK YOU.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT GIVE US ALL THE TIME.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR, BE WITH OUR LEADERS AND FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR TROOPS, KEEP THEM SAFE AND BRING THEM HOME.

AND FATHER, PLEASE BE WITH US AS REPRESENTATIVES AND THIS COMMUNITY AND WE ASK THE, YOU BRING US WITH AND GUIDANCE AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY.

FATHER, HELP FOR US TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PLACE FOR YOUR SERVICE TO RAISE THEIR KIDS.

AND JESUS NAME, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDE A COPY OF.

WE DO THE FLAG, USUALLY ONE.

ACTUALLY, I SHOULD LET YOU DO THE PRAYER.

AND YOU'RE THE ONE TO PRAY FOR THE RAIN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THIS TIME I FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FROM WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, IVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE TEXAS ONE.

AND IN I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WON'T SAY THE PLEDGE.

FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ADOPTING THE COUNTY FIRE CODE.

HE STARTED, HE STARTED QUICK.

OH, OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

Y'ALL PREVIOUS TO PROVIDE A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF LAST MEETING.

ANY ADDITION ARE CORRECTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FIRE COURT.

OKAY.

UM, THERE ARE SOME LEGAL ISSUES AND SOME REALLY, THERE'S SOME FLOW, UH, FLOW PROBLEMS ON PERMITS, MONIES WHO COLLECT, WHO DISTRIBUTES BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIFIC FUND EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE FARM MARSHAL.

AND THERE ARE SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO FIND YET.

SO I, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE GET SOME, SOME OF THESE ISSUES, UH, SOLVED.

SO I JUST WANT IT RIGHT BEFORE WE ENACT IT.

UH, SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, TABLE THE TABLE ACCEPTANCE, THE THIRD MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD TO TABLE THAT ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

I JUDGE, CAN I BRING UP SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE, UH, OR JUST TO THROW OUT, UH, I REALIZE IT'S NOT ONLY AGENDA ABOUT REMOVING THE FIRE, BUT YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE WITH, UH, TWO AND A HALF, THREE INCHES OF RAIN PRETTY MUCH ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON HERE TO, I KNOW LEGALLY I CAN'T MOVE THAT WE REMOVE THE FIRE BAN, BUT, UH, THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

IS THERE ANY WAY AT ALL TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF? WE CAN DO IT NEXT MONDAY IF WE GET, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT NEXT MONDAY.

I WANT TO DO IT TODAY.

YOU KNOW, I, I REALIZE I DIDN'T GET THAT ON THE AGENDA.

I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.

THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA.

BUT, UH, IF YOU DRIVE OUT THROUGH OUR COUNTY AND SEE ALL THE STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE, IS THERE NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO TODAY? I MEAN, IF THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, THEN THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

BUT IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PASS IT.

BUT IF ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY COMPLAINS FILES WAS A LAWSUIT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO ABANDON IT.

ABANDON THE MOTION.

WE CAN'T.

WELL, AND I THOUGHT THE SAME THING BECAUSE WHEN I WAS DRIVING UP WASHINGTON, I COULD BARELY SEE THE BURN BAND SIGN FOR THE GRASS OVER IN FRONT OF THE FIRE STATION.

I'M EXAGGERATING, BUT, WELL, I MEAN, BUT IT DOES LOOK FUNNY WITH THE BURN BAND SIGN AMONGST ALL HIS GREEN GRASS.

UH, CAN WE DECLARE AN EMERGENCY AND, UM, LIFT THE BURN BAND? UH, WE PROBABLY

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COULD.

I WOULD HESITATE TO DO WITHOUT TALKING TO THE FIRE MARSHAL.

UH, HE'S NOT HERE, LARRY.

YEAH, HE WAS LEAVING WHEN I CAME OUT AND I CAN'T SAY I EVEN IF WE JUST IT FOR A WEEK SO THAT PEOPLE I I UNDERSTAND.

FOR A WEEK SO THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF WHAT WAS OUT THERE.

WELL, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THE REPERCUSSIONS OF DOING SOMETHING AS A COURT ORDER THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I UNDERSTAND.

I THOUGHT LAST, I MEAN, WHEN I DROVE BY THAT SIGN, I, I THOUGHT, WELL, LAST WEEK WE DID IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK.

IT WAS TWO WEEKS.

OKAY.

ACTUALLY, I GUESS WE DID, IT WAS IN EFFECT FOR 60 DAYS, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE JUST DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

WE JUST DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AND SAID WE'D COME BACK TO IT IN TWO WEEKS.

YEAH.

LAST WEEK I WAS LIKE, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT IT TODAY.

AND THEN I, THAT'S NOT EVEN, WELL, ACTUALLY, I CALLED AND SAID, DON'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

SO, UH, SO WE TAKE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S GUIDANCE IN THAT.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST A PERFECT TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE BURNING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OUT THERE WITHOUT, UH, AS MUCH HAZARD AS THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.

AND AN COULD YOU, UH, GO AND SEE IF YOU, AND COME, COME WE'LL, WE CAN MOVE ON.

PUT YOU EXACTLY RIGHT.

TODAY'S THE, THE PERFECT, PERFECT TIME TO DO IT.

WELL, I HAD THE CITY OF CALL ME THIS MORNING.

HE WANTED TO BURN EVERY BIG PILE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE, AND SO ANYWAY, AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT THE JUDGE SAYS GOES, WELL THAT'S TRUE.

I SAID, I'LL YOU BETWEEN HIM AND THE FIRE MARSHAL.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT.

NOT IN CHARGE OF I REALLY, HE SAID WE CAN WAIT ANOTHER WEEK.

HE SAID IT WOULD, IT WON'T HURT US.

WELL, I CAN SAY IF, UH, IF LARRY SAYS GO WITH IT, THEN, UH, LIKE I SAID, REPERCUSSION OF US LIFTING THE FIREMAN WOULD BE IF SOMEONE COMPLAINED AND THEY FILED A LAWSUIT AND WE'VE TO REINSTATE THE FILE.

OKAY.

BUT WE'LL, SHE'S GOING TO GET, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT NEXT ITEM.

UH, WE HAVE ONE IS GREG CLARK WANTS TO ASK US TO CONSIDER REQUESTING TEXT OUT TO A TRAFFIC STUDY ON FM 1641 AT S TRAIL IN REGARD TO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND INSTALLATION.

MR. CLARK? THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS MATTER, UH, FOR COMMISSIONER SPORT.

I'D LIKE TO SPECIALLY THANK JUDGE GENT FOR JENNIFER ALLOWED ME TO BEGIN AN EARLY START TO NOT SERVICE TO COMAN COUNTY.

THE INTERSECTION AT 1641 S TRAIL SERVES ABOUT FIVE NEW SUBDIVISIONS IN A VERY LARGE DAYCARE CENTER.

THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA HAS CHANGED TO FM 1641 FROM A SLEEPY LITTLE COUNTRY ROAD TO A MAJOR THIRD BARRIER BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT T DO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS INTERSECTION.

BUT SINCE THE COUNTY ROAD COST OF THE STATE ROAD, THEY SAID IT WAS THE COUNTY'S OBLIGATION TO REQUEST THE STATE.

UH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE, WHEN IT WAS PASSED ON TO MAY, THAT THEY WOULDN'T REQUEST THE STUDY.

IT WASN'T GOING TO PASS.

IT'S GOING MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND RED LIGHT, UH, WITH THE DAYCARE CENTER RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT AND ALL THE SUBDIVISION AROUND.

I THINK IT'S A, YOU HAVE NO LOOSE SITUATION FOR THAT COUNTY.

'CAUSE THE STUDY IS GONNA BE DONE AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

THE INSTALLATION OF OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL BE DONE AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

IT'LL SLOW UP THE TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ROAD DOWN THERE, THERE, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A SPEEDWAY.

BUT IT'LL ALSO ALLOW ALL THESE PEOPLE IN INTERSECTIONS TO EXIT AND ENTER, UH, HILLS TRAIL OFF 1641 SAFELY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION YOU TRYING TO GET, NOT BE THIS FOR, UH, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED IT WITH MR. LEONARD? YES.

UM, HE IS, HE GAVE A REQUEST TO MY OFFICE.

I HAD CONTACTED, UH, NORTH TEXAS, UH, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TO SEE HOW CLOSE WE WERE ON THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT THEY PROMISED.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE ON THAT.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY WANT TO HAVE A, A MEETING ON A PORTION OF IT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UM, THE, AND, BUT, UH, I'LL, I'LL THROW THAT OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION STUDY, DO WE WANNA, I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO REQUEST, YOU KNOW, ONE NARROW STUDY FOR, FOR ONE INTERSECTION OR

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DO WE WANT TO JUST HOLD OFF AND, UH, AND HAVE THE, AND AND PUT THAT AS PART AS THE, OF THE ENTIRE STUDY, THE PORTION THAT THEY WANTED, THAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.

AND THEY NEED TO GET WITH EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULED 'CAUSE THEY WANT A JOINT WORKSHOP, UM, TO DISCUSS PART OF IT.

AS Y'ALL KNOW, UM, COLLIN COUNTY AND ROCKWELL COUNTY HAVE, UH, HAVE, UH, DONE A TRANSPORTATION STUDY AND THAT THERE'S AN OUTER LOOP THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH COLLIN COUNTY AND ROCKWALL COUNTY THAT THEY SHOW TO TERMINATE AT H ROCKWALL COUNTY'S, UH, PLAN SHOWS IT TO TERMINATE AT 5 48 AND HIGHWAY EIGHT.

UH, ACCORDING TO NORTH TEXAS, ELLIS COUNTY HAS FINISHED WITH THEIR, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING LUKE NINE OR LUKE 12 NINE.

AND IT TERMINATES, THEIR STUDY TERMINATES AT INTERSTATE 20 AND FARM TO MARKET ROAD SEVEN 40.

SO ALL YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT TO THE POINT WHERE NOW THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 5 48 AND HIGHWAY 80 IS PROBABLY NOT WORKABLE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT WALMART AND ALL THAT OTHER GROWTH THERE.

WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO JOG IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT THEY WANT A MEETING IN SOON BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE BUILDS UP IN THAT AREA TO, TO DECIDE ON ROUTE.

AND THEY WANT, SO THEY WANT, UH, KAUFFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, UH, CITY OF TERRELL, CITY OF FORNEY AND THE CITY OF TTE TO GET TOGETHER FOR A, UH, FOR A WORKSHOP TO DECIDE ON A ROUTE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.

AND THEY SAY, AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO GET KICKED OFF FROM A FULL-FLEDGED, UH, TRANSPORTATION STUDY FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TWO STEP DEAL.

FIRST STEP IS JUST THAT ONE NARROW AREA, BUT THEY'RE READY TO, TO, UH, GET STARTED ON THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

AND, UM, I TOLD 'EM WHAT WORKED REALLY WELL, GETTING OUR LAST, NOW THIS IS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN JUST A THIRD FAIR PLAN LIKE WE DID BEFORE.

UM, AND I TOLD 'EM IT WORKED REALLY WELL.

'CAUSE THE, UH, KA COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL PAID FOR IT.

EVERYBODY BOUGHT IN AT THE SAME TIME.

IT WASN'T SO, IT WASN'T, UH, A DEAL WHERE WE HAD CITY INTEREST CONFLICTING.

IT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THE KALIN COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL INCLUDED IN ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY.

AND THEY, THEY, UH, THEY AGREED THAT THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE WHAT, WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH THIS IS TO GO TO THE GULF COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL.

BUT MY, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION I'M GONNA PUT BEFORE THE COURT IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO, DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT ONE INTERSECTION OR DO WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THE BIG PICTURE? I THINK, UH, CONCENTRATING ON THE BIG PICTURE IS GONNA BE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE THAT TRAFFIC ON 1641, UH, IS SLOWED DOWN.

UH, HAVING, UH, A DAUGHTER, A SON-IN-LAW, A SON, A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, AND FOUR GRANDKIDS THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD, I'M QUITE CONCERNED.

AND I TRAVELED QUITE A BIT AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE SNOW AND UH, T TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE OVERALL PLAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THIS AREA REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.

AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE US AT LEAST AUTHORIZED TEXT OUT TO DO THE STUDY.

YEAH, I DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG, UH, THIS THOROUGHFARE IMPLANT STUDY IS GONNA TAKE IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, CO OR WHOEVER THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD.

I DON'T SEE HOW THIS INTERFERES WITH, WITH ANY OF THEIR, THEIR WORK ANYWAY.

IF TEXTILE STUDIES IS DECIDE TO PUT UP A LIGHT THERE, ANYTHING THAT BE CHANGED IF THIS OTHER THING COMES TO FRUITION ON DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO HAVE WHAT THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S ANOTHER FLY.

I KNOW.

WELL, IT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES IN ONE WAY AND IN ANOTHER WAY IT'S THE SAME ISSUE THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ATTITUDE IS THE OUTER LOOP IS GOING TO GO THROUGH WHETHER THE TECH TRANSEX CORRIDOR DOES OR NOT.

SO THEY'VE GOTTA DO THE STUDY ON THE OUTER LOOP.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM EVERYTHING WE HEAR, THE OUTER LOOP MAY WELL BE PART OF THE TRANSEX COURT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY THE APPLE ONE BITE AT A TIME, AND YOU KNOW, THE FIRST BITE IS WE'VE GOTTA DECIDE ON THE LOOP THAT'S

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GONNA GO THROUGH LIN COUNTY.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE A HUGE BENEFIT.

AND UH, WHETHER THAT'S PART OF THE TECH TRANSEX CORRIDOR IN THE FUTURE IS ANOTHER ISSUE.

'CAUSE SOME OF THE DRAWINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IS THAT, THAT I NINE WAS KIND OF LIKE THROUGH COMBINE UP THROUGH SEVILLE IN THAT AREA, MAYBE BETWEEN SEVILLE SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT TRANSEX LATEST GUESS SUNNY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE TERMINATING AT SEVEN 40 IN, IN INTERSTATE 20.

I HAD NEVER HEARD THAT UNTIL THE CONVERSATION LAST FRIDAY WITH NORTH TEXAS, NOT NORTH TEXAS PUBLICAN.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE GEORGE BUSH COMING IN SUNDAY OVER AT LOST, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT'S COMING ROAD.

SO REALLY THIS IS GOING BE THE LOOP THAT'S PUSHED ON OUT ACROSS THE, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH, WITH PUTTING A, A RED LIGHT THERE? PART OF THERE'S A BIG NURSERY.

UH, A LOT OF KIDS GO THERE EVERY MORNING, PARENTS AND, AND THAT TRAFFIC, THERE'S NO SLOW DOWN OF THAT TRAFFIC IF YOU'RE GOING YEAH.

ON 1641 AND, UH, WELL, I KNOW IT'S VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION A BUNCH AND EVERYTHING WHEN CORN, UH, WENT AHEAD AND REWORKED THE ROAD THAT GOES UP BY THE STEEL PLACE UP THERE, BY THE PLACE, WHEN THEY DID THAT AGO, IT JUST STARTED TAKING TRAFFIC OFF THERE BEFORE YOU SEE PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE NOW GOING BACK INTO THAT PERIOD WHERE THEY USED TO HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN ROCK ROAD.

BUT THERE'S STILL LOT TURNS OUT ON DOWN THE RAILROAD TRACK UP, UH, ANYTHING.

NO, WE'RE ASKING JUST RESOLUTION TO ALLOW TDOT TO DO THE STUDY.

YEAH.

T TDOT THINKS THAT'S A GOOD TDOT'S, NOT UNAWARE OF ALL THE OTHER STUDIES THAT ARE BEING DONE ON THE LOOPS OF TRANSEX COURT.

WELL, AND JUDGE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS ISN'T LIKE A, THIS ISN'T A MAJOR EXPENDITURE, IT'S NOT A, A MAJOR BUILDING PROJECT.

IT'S JUST ASKING TEX OUT TO DO A STUDY TO SEE IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT WARRANTED THAT THAT INTERSECTION.

AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THAT.

BUT I DO THINK TILL JANUARY THE FIRST, I SHOULD HAVE THE SAME MISTAKE ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSIONER'S FOR TO BE ABLE TO RESEARCH IT AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WHEN I'M READY TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WHEN MR. CLARK PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND YOU REFUSED.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT TRUE.

I TALKED TO KEN ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES, UH, ABOUT PUTTING ON THE AGENDA AND ASSUMING THAT HE WAS USED, HE'S REAL, REAL BUSY AND DIDN'T GET THAT SIDE.

I DID FILL OUT A RED REQUEST, NO DISRESPECT, YOU CAN, BUT A WRITTEN REQUEST AT YOUR OFFICE, UH, TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN WHEN I CALLED TO SEE IF I WAS ON THE AGENDA, I WAS INFORMED THAT I WASN'T AND ASKED IF I COULD BE PUT ON THERE.

SO DON'T KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE ON THERE, YOU WANTED ME TO BE ON THERE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S NO DISRESPECT TO YOU AT ALL.

WELL, YOU DO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME MAJOR RESEARCH BEING DONE, UH, NOT JUST ON THAT INTERSECTION BUT ON, BUT ON THE BIG PICTURE.

OH YEAH.

AND HERE, ON A SIDE NOTE OF THAT, HERE'S A COPY FROM ROCKWALL ON THEIR ENGINEERING STUDY OF JIMMY THIS YEAR THAT SHOWS, UH, THAT ALU TERMINATED 5 48 AND 2 0 5, NOT, NOT 80.

THE ROCKWALL ENGINEERS TOLD ME THAT THEY DIDN'T DO ANY STUDIES IN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND WEREN'T, IT'S LIKE THE ROCK BALL ENGINEERS DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE COL COUNTY ENGINEER.

KIND OF STRANGE.

AND SO THIS IS, Y'ALL INTERESTED IN THIS, I'LL LEAVE WITH YOU TO GIVE AN IDEA WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN ROCKWELL AND AS FAR AS THAT , BUT I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REQUEST OF GRID LIGHT.

COULDN, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE STATE DOESN'T MOVE LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE SPEAK TO SOUND ON THESE PROJECTS.

SO THE, THE SOONER WE GET STARTED ON IT, THE SOONER WE GET POSSIBLY GET LIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION AND TO TIE IT IN WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR REGIONAL PLAN OR COUNTYWIDE PLAN, WE'LL PROBABLY JUST DELAY IT AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH A NEEDED THING.

UH, THE STATE WAS THE ONE THAT APPROACHED ME ABOUT DOING IT, SO, UH, I HELPED OBLIGATED PASS IT OFF.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER, YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? YES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANKS SIR.

UM, LARRY? YES SIR.

WE KNOW IT'S

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NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS THE LIFTING THE FIRE BAN.

UH, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED, OF COURSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA AND IF WE DO SOMETHING, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THE REPERCUSSION IS IF SOMEONE FILES A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY ASKING MR. UH, SET THAT ASIDE, THEN WE HAVE TO SET ASIDE THE ORDER THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PASSED WHEN IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

UH, OUR QUESTION TO YOU, WITH ALL THE RAIN WE'VE HAD, WE'RE GETTING SEVERAL CALLS AND SEVERAL REQUESTS, UH, TO LIFT THE BAN AND, UH, WE WANTED TO GET YOUR OPINION ON IT FOR, UH, WE DISCUSSED IT FURTHER.

UH, I'M GETTING A LOT OF CALLS MYSELF, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE.

ALSO, UH, THE STATS THIS MORNING HADN'T BEEN UPGRADED FROM THE FORESTRY SERVICE, UH, TEXAS FOREST SERVICE.

SO I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU WHAT THE CURRENT ONES ARE BASED ON THE RAINFALL WE HAD.

I DID SPEAK TO SOMEONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S PRECINCT, UH, MAINTENANCE CREW THAT SAID OTHER, THEY HAD HAD GOOD RAINFALL OVER THERE AND THAT WAS REALLY ONE OF THE DRIEST PLACES THAT WE STILL HAD IN THE MATERIAL AREA.

UH, PROBABLY THEY HAD THAT KIND OF RAINFALL, I BELIEVE BY THE END OF , GREENING UP PRETTY MUCH ALSO OTHER AREAS, OF COURSE YOU GENTLEMEN KNOW YOUR AREAS FAR BETTER THAN I DO.

I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THE CORNY AREA FOR CERTAIN ON YOURS.

YOU MIGHT TELL US ABOUT THAT JIM'S AREAS AND DOWN IN THAT DIRECTION, THIS DIRECTION WE'RE JUST DOING TO ME APPEARS TO BE GREAT SHAPE AS FAR AS THE GREENNESS OF GRASS COMMISSIONER IN YOUR AREA.

WELL, I WAS TOLD WE GOT TWO AND A HALF INCHES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF RAIN.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE JUST REMOVING IT FOR A WEEK AND SEE WHAT IT GOES, HOW IT GOES? SURE.

I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M HAVING LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, I, AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE ALL OUT THERE OURSELVES, SO WE UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU GOT THOSE THINGS.

I MEAN ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, BUT BILL, THAT'S A WEEK AWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, TO DISCUSS IT AND UH, I'D CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO THAT TO BACK ONE WEEK.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN, UH, COME MONDAY MORNING.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S STRICTLY UP TO Y'ALL.

IF IT'S, IF THERE'S A LEGAL WAY WE CAN DO THAT.

IF YOU WANNA TRY IT, THEN I'M FOR THAT WHERE WE GET AN AGENDA NEXT WEEK.

I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO Y'ALL AT THAT POINT.

CHIEF, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS LIKE NOW AS WE SPEAK, IT SEEMS ME, WE HAVE IDEAL CONDITIONS TO BURN AND THERE'S STOCKPILES THAT ARE STACKED UP AND A WEEK FROM NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I DO AGREE WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE CONDITIONS.

RIGHT.

GOOD TIMING, BUT I'M ON AGENDA NEXT WEEK.

Y'ALL WISH.

CERTAINLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO.

I'LL KEEP YOU ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT.

TO DISCUSS THE FIREMAN.

YES SIR.

COMMISSIONERS MAY WANT TO GO AHEAD TODAY AND GO AHEAD AND PASS AN ORDER LIFTING FIREMAN.

ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE, JUDGE.

IF IT'S LEGALLY POSSIBLE.

WELL, LIKE I SAY THE LEGAL ASPECT OF IT'S IF SOMEONE SUES US YEAH, THEY HAVE THAT.

RIGHT.

UH, HOW I BUILT IN THAT IS WE TAKE IT OUT, CAN, CAN WE PUT A PHONE CALL INTO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, MAKE, YOU KNOW, WE DECLARE AN EMERGENCY AND LIFT IT, MAKING SURE, I MEAN, GET HIS INPUT.

SURE.

I MEAN, AND JUST HANG ON TO THIS TILL THE END OF THE MEETING.

OKAY.

I WOULDN'T BE INCLINED TO VOTE FOR IF THE FIRE MARSHAL DOESN'T SAY SO.

WELL, YEAH.

ON THAT BIG SCREEN DINNER JURY.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

YOU KNOW, IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION, I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO IT FOR A WEEK.

BUT IF IT'S NOT, AND LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS THOUGH.

OUR LIABILITY, IF SOMEBODY DOES SUE US, UH, OUR RECOURSE IS JUST TO PUT IT BACK ON, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT OPEN TO ANY KIND OF PUNITIVE DAMAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, THAT'S WHY I SAID, WHAT I SAID IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO WHATEVER IS WITHIN OUR DISCRETION.

MY QUESTION IS, IS IT WITH OUR, WITH OUR DISCRETION? AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT, IF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAYS IT IS, WE HAVE A DEFENSE.

IF WE DIDN'T ASK THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, WE HAVE NO DEFENSE.

WELL, I LIKE THAT YOU GOT, WE'RE BEHIND YOU 100% .

THANK KEVIN.

OKAY, WELL, WE'LL TRY TO GET AN OPINION THEN FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

WE'LL DO SOMETHING.

WE'LL HAVE IT BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY,

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ANGIE.

THANK YOU BARRY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

JUDGE, YOU NEED SOMETHING ELSE? UH, NO, BUT MAINLY I NEED IS WOULD IT BE OKAY FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT? FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE AREAS THAT I'VE NOTICED, I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY AS GOOD AS IT'S GONNA GET RIGHT NOW TO DO SOMETHING.

SO, I MEAN, I, I GUESS I WOULD AND THAT MEANS SUPPORT IT, THOSE NUMBERS SOMETIMES THAT WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY MAY NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE HERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, THEY PRETTY MUCH COVERED THE COUNTY OTHER THAN THE ONE AREA OVER THERE.

I KNOW.

THE OTHERS I SEEN LOOK REAL GOOD.

SO, SO WHATEVER WE DECIDED TO DO TODAY, YOU'RE BE ON AGENDA NEXT WEEK TO ABSOLUTELY BRING AN UPDATE AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT HAS OCCURRED.

WHAT WE SURE.

WILL YOU NEED FOR ANYTHING ELSE TODAY THEN, SIR? NO SIR.

THANK YOU.

I'LL GET BACK WITH THE, THE COURT ORDER TO FIND OUT EXACTLY.

SO WE DO IT.

WE CAN TURN INTO THE DISPATCH CENTER OUT THERE.

THAT WORKS.

YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF WE NO SIR.

TIME.

I, WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GONNA GET THE PRESENT TIME.

I, I KNOW NEED GET OF THINGS.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I TALKED TO HAVE PRETTY MUCH BEEN MIDDLE OF THE LAND.

WHATEVER WE WANT DO.

WE HAD A COUPLE DIDN'T WANT IT, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SOME, THE ONES ARE IN THE GREENEST AREA THAT THERE ARE, SO I CAN'T SEE THAT WOULD SIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU LARRY.

OKAY, IT'S 10 O'CLOCK.

UH, WE NEED TO MOVE INTO A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR PROPOSED 2006 2007 BUDGET.

I'D ENTERTAINED A MOTION TO MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, TAKEN BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS A SIGNED UP.

MOTION CARRIED.

JUDGE, UH, ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK AT OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

I ONE HERE TO SPEAK, THEN I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN TO EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE BACK TO A REGULAR SESSION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSING, CONSIDER PROMOTING CLAUDINE AND GAMBLING TO THE SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AT, UH, ANNUAL SALARY 34 5.

SHERIFF, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? I APOLOGIZE TO THE COURT FOR BRINGING US UP.

THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A REGULAR BUDGET.

AS I EXPLAINED TO COMMISSIONER LEONARD EARLIER TODAY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS POSITION HAD BEEN CREATED.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY TIME THAT I HAVE A POSITION OR A, UH, RATE SET UP OR YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BY LAW, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY THOSE.

UH, I I THINK I WITH, UH, HER JOB DESCRIPTION WOULD BE QUITE LENGTHY, UH, RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK THAT THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY JUSTIFIES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PAY SHE IS HAS BEEN, UH, EXECUTING THOSE DUTIES FOR FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, I, I APOLOGIZE.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

RECORD, BUDGET, AND I JUST FELL THROUGH THE .

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOUGLAS TO APPROVE THAT SECOND BY MR. ROWDEN? ANY DISCUSSION? UM, JUDGE, I, I HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK AFTER WE APPROVED THE CHIEF DEPUTY, THE COUPLE WORKS DIRECTOR, OF COURSE, I EXPRESSED MY OBJECTION AND CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER, WE, WE HAVE SOME DEGREE OF M AMONG OTHER EMPLOYEES.

AND THAT WAS TRUE.

I GOT, I GOT PRETTY MUCH AMBUSHED BY OTHER EMPLOYEES WHO, UM, SO WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY IS ONE DEPARTMENT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER? BUT I DID TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS.

I WENT AND TALKED WITH THE SHERIFF AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND I, NOT INCLUDING THE ASSISTANT, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND I THINK IT'S JUSTIFIED.

I REALLY WISH WE WOULD'VE DONE IT DURING THE REGULAR BUDGET, BUT WE DIDN'T.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, THE SECRETARY, AND

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SEVERAL HUNDRED EMPLOYEES, AND ONE THAT HAS THREE EMPLOYEES.

UH, AND, UH, I WILL, I, I INTEND TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT HAVE DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPOINTING VANESSA FMO AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.

THIS, THIS IS JUST A, UH, IT'S REQUIRED BY, BY STATUTE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND, UH, DEPUTY CONSTABLES TO BE APPOINTED.

UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DEPUTY NEXT AS THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT BEFORE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL A DISCUSSION.

DID GARVIN, DID THE CONSTABLE APPROVE THIS? YEAH.

OKAY.

THE LETTER MARK.

OH, NO, NO, I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST, UM, I'D HAPPEN TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE AWARE THAT THIS HAD TO BE DONE BY COMMISSIONER COURT.

UH, BUT HE ACTUALLY HIRED HER AS DEPUTY, RIGHT? YEAH, IT SAYS CODE.

THIS IS REQUEST APPOINT.

DEPUTY COMES DEPUTY COUNCIL.

COURT SEVEN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE EVIDENCE OF PICKING DEPUTY CONS.

WE HAVE TO APPROVE.

ALL FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPRO RELA BLOCK NINE THROUGH 12 OF THE SHADOW LAKE SUBDIVISION, PLEASE.

ONE IN CALKIN COUNTY PRECINCT.

THREE.

MOTION APPEARS, UH, THE RE FOR EACH ONE.

THEY MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND OUR, UH, ENGINEER SAID FINE.

SO I MAKE THAT MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

SECOND.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSION, SENATOR ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF BLOCK FIVE, BLOCK TWO OF THE LAKE SUBDIVISION, PHASE ONE AND PRECINCT THREE.

EACH OF Y'ALL SHOULDA, UH, LOT THAT, UH, THEY'RE DEDICATING TO THE COUNTY.

WELL, I GUESS TO, UH, WHOEVER THE JUDGE DEANS NECESSARY, BUT IT'S, IT'S OUR LOT FOR THE FIRE STATION AND THE, AND THE POLICE STATION.

YEAH.

UH, AND I MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER.

ALL IN FAIR? I.

MOTION CARRIES.

WE HAVE WITH US TODAY, MR. , UH, WITH THE SHADOW EIGHT, SEVEN.

DID TOM, YOU WANT SAY ANYTHING OR, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UH, I JUST WANT TO, I GUESS THANK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, FOR APPROVING THESE TWO REQUESTS AND TELL 'EM THAT, TELL EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WE'RE PLEASED TO DONATE THE LAND FOR THE FIRE AND THE PARK.

UM, IT'LL BE A VERY WELCOME ADDITION TO OUR, UH, SUBDIVISION AND, UH, PROVIDE COMFORT AND SAFETY FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S GONNA LIVE IT.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE COOPERATION FROM THE COMMISSION'S COURT ONE DEVELOPING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? UM, OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER SHANE TOOK OFFICE AND, UH, THIS PLAT WAS BROUGHT TO PRECINCT THREE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I WAS INVOLVED JUST 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE LONGER.

UH, AND, UM, UM, SHADOW LAKES HAS, UH, MR. MR. NOLAN HAS DONE EVERY SINGLE THING WE ASK HIM FOR, INCLUDING THINGS I DIDN'T EXPECT HE WOULD DO.

MAKE A NOTE OF THOSE.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE, IF I REMEMBER MY NUMBERS, IT'S 600 LOTS ON SIX FEET ON 1400 ACRES.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S GOT 11 LAKES ON IT.

THEY HAVE BUILT WA WALKING TRAILS, HIKING BACK TRAILS ALREADY FOR ON TWO MILES OF IT, AROUND THE BEAUTIFUL LAKES.

AND I

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MEAN, IT WAS A MODEL SUBDIVISION.

I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GET, GET BY WITHOUT SAYING, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE HOW TO GO DO A SUBDIVISION, RIGHT, GO LOOK AT SHADOW LAKES BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN OVER BACKWARDS TO NOT ONLY WORK WITH THE COUNTY, BUT THE SCHOOL, THE FIRE DISTRICT, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND UH, AND, AND WITH THIS DONATION OF A LOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON PROMISES THEY'VE MADE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE FULFILLED EVERY PROMISE.

AND, AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU HOW YOU KNOW WHAT PLEASURE IT IS TO WORK WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT DOES WHAT HE SAYS AND SAYS WHAT HE DOES, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T PROMISE ANYTHING.

HE'S NOT GONNA FALL FURTHER.

COMMISSIONER, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HEAR THAT .

AND WE ARE, I JUST WANT EVERYONE HERE AND IN THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE SO PLEASED TO BE A PART OF KAMAN COUNTY AND WE HOPE TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE WAY OF LIFE HERE.

AND ANY OF YOU THAT ARE INTERESTED OR HAVE THE TIME OR WELCOME TO COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

YES.

THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU.

NEXT HAVE DISCUSSION.

SENATOR PUTIN BID FOR RESALE OF TAX PROPERTY BLOCK 1 36 BLOCK 5 89, ALSO KNOWN AS BLOCK F BRE HILL IN CAUSE.

UH, COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE I.

THAT MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPRO DENTATION OF JEANIE BOLTON FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY TAX ACCESSOR OFFICE.

SO MANY JUDGES.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSING APPROVING THE ATION OF RONALD EDWARD JONES, SENIOR FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER.

SECOND.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWING.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, JERRY, WE HAVE TWO REPORTS OF DALLAS CROWN THAT FILED ONE FOR AUGUST 31ST, ONE FOR SEPTEMBER 8TH.

JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE ACCEPTANCE OF THESE REPORTS.

COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW WHAT OCCURRED TO ME? I BET.

I BET IF YOU DID A PRESS RELEASE TO API AND UPI AND ALL THOSE APIS, I BET THAT, I BET THE ROOM THAT THERE'S TWO, NOT ONE COUNT 'EM TWO SLAUGHTER REPORTS FROM THE HORSE PLANT.

I BET YOU'D HAVE GERALDO AND EVERYBODY IN THIS HORSE.

THAT'S TO GETTING THE PROBLEM ABOUT THAT RAISE.

THEN I CAN GET AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THESE TWO REPORTS.

JUDGE VOTE, UH, JURY MAKES THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? MR. MR. SHANE SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, DID Y'ALL SEE IN THE PAPER WERE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE PASSED THE BILL TO DO A WAIVER? YEAH, BUT THE BILL THAT WENT TO THE SENATE WAS CHANGED AND ALLOWED BUSINESSES ALREADY IN BUSINESS GRANT TO BE GRANDFATHERED.

THAT WAS A CLERICAL ERROR, WASN'T IT? HUH? THAT WAS A CLERICAL ERROR.

CLERICAL ORCHESTRATED CLERICAL CLERICAL ERROR.

SO THEY WERE IN A DILEMMA EXACTLY WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.

THAT'LL BE HANDLED.

CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.

WE COULDN'T GET AWAY.

ROUGH STATE TONIGHT, , UH, PHONE UP ROSE UPON LEGAL ADVICE FROM OUR ATTORNEY IN AUSTIN.

UH, HE RECOMMENDS THAT WE NOT DO IT.

OKAY.

ON THE FIRE.

I WOULD VOTE.

OKAY.

HAVE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY.

BE ON, SORRY.

ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY.

JUDGE, I'LL BACK YOU.

.

OKAY, SO LET'S ISSUE WITH THAT ISSUE THAT BRINGS US AROUND ANY WIND ITEM TRANSFER THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.

YES SIR.

IT'S ONLY SMART TO TIE A ROCK ON THE ROAD.

JUST SEE HOW DEEP THE IS LINE ON TRANSFERS AND

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THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO INCREASE INDEXING AND RECORDING COSTS.

A HUNDRED DOLLARS REDUCTION DUE.

GENERAL GOVERNOR POLICE OFFICE SUPPLIES 500 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

1000.

MISCELLANEOUS 1200 MAINTENANCE OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.

100 REDUCTION IN OFFICE EQUIPMENT OF 2800 420 SECOND DISTRICT COURT INCREASED THROUGH $75 REDUCTION IN MISCELLANEOUS J THREE.

INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLIES.

200 REDUCTION IN RETIREMENT COSTS, JUDICIAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

INCREASED TRANSPORT COSTS.

580 PROSECUTION EXPENSE.

650 WITH REDUCTION IN AUTOPSY COSTS OF 1,230 MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

INCREASED JANITORIAL SUPPLIES, $60 UTILITIES AND KAUFMAN 3,700 JANITORIAL SERVICE AND SUB COURTHOUSE.

350 GARBAGE PICKUP 400 WITH REDUCTION IN POSTAGE METER COSTS OF 1,510 IN UTILITIES IN 40 OF 3000.

FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 160 WITH REDUCTION OF $80 IN OFFICE SUPPLIES AND $80 IN FILL IN SUPPLIES.

CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, INCREASED GAS AND OIL.

500 PRODUCTION IN OFFICE EQUIPMENT CONSTABLE PRECINCT.

THREE, INCREASED GAS AND OIL 600 WITH REDUCTION IN OFFICE EQUIPMENT.

SHERIFF'S FUND INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS.

5,000 AND GAS AND OIL 3000 WITH PRODUCTION OF 8,000.

RETIREMENT COSTS.

JAIL FUND.

INCREASED MEDICAL COSTS.

5,000 REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT OF 12,000 WITH REDUCTION OF 17,000 IN CLOTHING AND BEDING.

UH, CHILD SHELTER AREA.

INCREASED SALARY, UH, COST OF NURSES $1,454.

GROCERIES, 3000 PARTS AND REPAIRS.

800 GAS AND ALL 2000 SHELTER UPKEEP.

1000 ALLOWANCE $300 FOR REDUCTION IN HOUSEKEEPER COSTS OF 8,000 5 54 GROVELAND BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE.

INCREASED GAS AND OIL.

600 PRODUCTION OF MISCELLANEOUS GROVELAND BRIDGE PRECINCT.

THREE.

INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS 800 WITH REDUCTION IN GAS AND OIL GROVE BRIDGE PRECINCT.

FOUR.

INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS.

3000 AND ROAD MATERIALS.

90,000 PRODUCTION OF 93,000 CONTRACT LABOR.

ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE, UH, SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN THE SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION AREA OF $6,000 FOR HAULING COSTS AND IN RECORDS ARCHIVE 44,000 FOR IMAGING.

ADDITIONALLY, GENTLEMEN, I'VE GOT VOLUMINOUS LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET, UH, ADJUSTMENTS IN JUVENILE PROBATION AND ADULT PROBATION, NONE OF WHICH AFFECTS COUNTY FUNDS.

UH, THESE AREAS FISCAL YEAR ENDS IS AUGUST 31ST.

SO WE'RE JUST, UH, REARRANGING THE BUDGET TO FIT ACTUAL SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR YEAR END REPORTS.

SO I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO READ THROUGH ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL SINCE THEY DON'T AFFECT THE COUNTY FINANCES.

UH, GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLORER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

UM, JUDGE, WE DO, I WE DO NEED TO SEE WHEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WHEN EVERYBODY COULD GET TOGETHER FOR WORKSHOP AT THE CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE MORNING ACCOUNT EACH OF YOU.

CHECK, CHECK WITH BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY WITH YOUR CALENDAR, CALENDAR WORKSHOP FOR, FOR THIS.

THEY SAID THE NORTH BASIS SAID THEY WANTED TO GET A WORKSHOP TOGETHER OF UH, COUNTY COMM.

CITY COUNCILS.

SO PREFERABLY, PREFERABLY 11 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING THE DAY.

NEXT SEVEN WEEKS.

MY NIGHTS ARE PRETTY.

YEAH, I STARTED SAYING YEAH, NEXT SEVEN WEEKS IS PRETTY WELL.

WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT DON'T AFFECT, IT ISN'T GONNA AFFECT EVERYBODY.

WE PROBABLY COULD GET BY COMING WITHOUT HAVING A COMMISSIONER'S WORKSHOP.

WE'RE STILL USING FOUR WHEEL RIDES.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE INTERSTATE.

HAD CEDAR CREEK FILLED UP

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IN THIS MORNING CRACK GROUND DOWN UP YET.

YOU GAVE US BACK JERRY, BUT YOU DIDN'T SIGN IT.

IS THERE? THERE'S CERTAINLY BACK.

WE'LL WORK.

I'LL CHECK IT FOR YOU.

I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT AND BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING Y'ALL TO SIGN FOR.

GET MIXED UP WITH FIELDS.

THIS ONE'S ALL DONE.

THERE'S JUST ONE.

SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU ARE NOT SECONDARY? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TIME? NO.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

YOU DON'T FEEL BAD.

I PRETTY GOOD.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT PUT SIGN HERE, TABS ON ALL, MOST OF THE TIME I BOOK MY CPA DOES.

JUDGE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THE BURN VAN AND DIDN'T SIGN UP, THEY SIGNED, CAN THEY DO THAT AT THIS TIME? MM-HMM .

YEAH.

WELL IN AS SOON AS WE START.

OKAY.

I THINK JIMMY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.

THAT'S A DEGREE.

HUH? DID WE PASS AN ORDER ON THOSE ITEMS? ON TRANSFER? OKAY.

GOOD.

HAVE WE VOTED ALL IN FAVOR? I THOUGHT WE DID.

OKAY, GOOD.

I'M JUST ASKING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE UNLESS SOMEBODY SUES US.

.

OKAY.

NOW IF SOMEONE DOES WANT TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, UH, NOW BE THE TIME TO SIGN UP AND, AND SPEAK SHEET.

GONE.

I GOT ONE.

UH, I'M JIM .

I'VE RUN A BUSINESS IN THIS COUNTY, UH, CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION OF SANDY GRAVE.

FOUR WEEKS AGO IT WAS POURING DOWN RAIN.

ON MONDAY MORNING I WENT TO THE FIRE MARSHAL AND HE SAID THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO BURNING.

BUT THE FOLLOWING WEEK HE WAS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER OF COURT ON THE BURN BAND AND THE, UH, FIRE CODE THAT Y'ALL, THAT Y'ALL WERE SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS.

AND HE SAID IT WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

THAT'S THREE WEEKS AGO AGAIN, IT RAINED THE NEXT WEEKEND.

IT'S RAINED FOR FOUR WEEKENDS IN A ROW.

AND EVERY WEEKEND HE SAID THAT HE WAS ON THE AGENDA TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FIRE CODE.

AND THE FIRE CODE WAS UH, TO BE CHANGED OR AMENDED FOR A PERMITTING APPROXIMATE.

AND FOR THREE WEEKS, I'VE BEEN HERE TO SEE IF

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Y'ALL WOULD FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT.

AND EVERY WEEK IT GETS MOVED ANOTHER WEEK.

AND THIS IS GETTING, I MEAN FOR BUSINESSMAN, THIS IS BEYOND COMPREHENSION THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN GO EVERY WEEK.

IT'S ANOTHER WEEK, BUT LIKE FOR FOUR WEEKS IT'S RAIN.

AND I, I'M I'M WHAT? EVERY WEEK THEY SAY THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

THE NEXT WEEK, THE NEXT WEEK FOR FOUR WEEKS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

IS IT GOING TO BE TABLED AGAIN NEXT WEEK? I DON'T THINK ANY OF US CAN ANSWER THAT.

SO THE BURN BAND'S GONNA LAST UNTIL, UNTIL THE FIRE MARSHAL SAYS THAT THE FIRE SERVICE SAYS THAT IT'S TIME LIFTED.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

WAIT, HE SAID THREE WEEKS AGO HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT IT SHOULD BE LIFTED.

BUT HE COULD NOT DO THAT WITHOUT Y'ALL.

HE NEVER MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT PASSING THE MOTION.

HE NEVER MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT.

I KNOW BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK HERE LAST WEEK AND HE DIDN'T SHOW IT.

HE CALLED HIM A COMMISSIONER DEVIL THAT SAID HE WASN'T GONNA BE HERE.

I THINK HE WAS OUT ON A FIRE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

HE WAS AT FIRE.

WELL, HE'S ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK.

IF HE'S AT A BUYER NEXT WEEK, IS HE GONNA BE TAPD ANOTHER WEEK? HIS RECOMMENDED US TODAY WAS THAT HE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE IT OFF.

RIGHT.

IF HE RECOMMENDED THAT TO ME THREE WEEKS AGO.

YEAH.

WELL HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T DO IT ON COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

I KNOW I WANT TO GET IT.

I WANT TO GET IT DONE AS FAST AS YOU DO.

BUT WE, WE CANNOT GO, I WON'T GO WITHOUT HIS RECOMMENDATION TODAY.

HE RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE TAKEN OFF AND BECAUSE OF OPEN GOVERNMENT CODE AND OPEN RECORDS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUPID STUFF WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

HAD HE SHOWED UP LAST WEEK, HE WOULD ALWAYS, HE WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED IT LAST WEEK IF IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

WE'VE TAKEN IT ON.

RIGHT.

PART OF THIS, I THINK MAY BE MY FAULT TODAY.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA TO GET REMOVED TODAY, BUT THEN I REMEMBER THAT IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA LAST WEEKEND.

WE JUST NEVER TOOK IT OFF AT ALL.

UM, IF I'D HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT, I'D KNOWN THAT IT WASN'T GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND I WOULD'VE ASKED IT TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA LAST WEEK.

BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA COME UP AUTOMATICALLY TODAY.

AND SO, UH, I'M GONNA HAVE TO TAKE PART OF THE BLAME FOR THAT, FOR NOT GETTING IT ON THERE.

UH, WELL I BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR THREE WEEKS.

IT, IT HADN'T GOTTEN, IT WASN'T ON THE DAY THOUGH ANYWHERE AND I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD DO IT TODAY, BUT FROM OUR ATTORNEY WE GET THE NOTICE THAT, UH, WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT WAS ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE FIRE CODE, WAS IT NOT? YES SIR.

BUT THERE'S, THERE'S, THIS IS A NEW, A NEW SET OF RULES AND WE WANT IT TO BE RIGHT WHEN WE GET IT DONE.

I'VE GIVEN A COPY OF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA ADD THE BURN PERMIT, WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL WANTS.

WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT TO IT.

BUT THERE ARE, I THINK WE GOT FEDERAL COMPLICATIONS.

YES, WE GOT, WE GOT FEDERAL COMPLICATIONS, WE GOT STATE COMPLICATIONS AND THEN WE, SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD A FIRE CODE BEFORE.

HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL BEEN WORKING ON THIS? PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH, TWO MONTHS.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM THE NATIONAL FIRE NATIONAL TO STATE TO COUNTY.

EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN LITTLE IDEA AND UH, WE PLAGIARIZED A LOT FROM OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAS A FIRE CODE.

RIGHT.

SO IF NOT, IF I HAD TO START FROM THE BEGINNING, IT'D BE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTH.

BUT HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET THE RESOLUTION OF SOME OF THESE LEGAL ISSUES, UH, WE'LL HAVE IT.

I'M JUST AS JUST MUCH HURRY TO GET IT ON AS YOU WOULD.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY.

IS IT A STATE OR FEDERAL ORDINANCE OR YOU HAVE TO GO BY STATE OR FEDERAL GUIDELINES TO ISSUE PERMITS? WE GO ON STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, AND ARE THOSE LISTED IN Y'ALL'S RESEARCH OR OH YES.

GUIDELINES? OH YES.

WE, WE'VE GOT GODS AND GODS IN BOOKS.

SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS A LOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO, WHICH IS, UH, RANDY RICHARDS AND LARRY EWING.

THEY'RE THE FIRE MARSH.

THEY KNOW.

THEY KNOW IT.

AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE FEEDING ME AND I'M JUST KIND OF ACTING AS A CONDUIT TO GET IT ON COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

BUT THERE'S NO WAY Y'ALL CAN ISSUE ANY TYPE OF PERMITS TO BURN AT THIS TIME? NO.

WHEN THIS BECOMES EFFECTIVE, UH, YEAH, WE CAN, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I MEAN THIS IS HOW, WHAT'S YOUR LENGTH OF TIME? YOU THINK THAT IT'LL BECOME EFFECTIVE ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS?

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YOU DON'T HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE.

PROBABLY A MONTH.

YOU THINK THE BURN VAN WILL BE LIFTED? THE BURN VAN LIFTED BEFORE THEN LARRY HAD RECOMMENDED TO ADAM.

WERE YOU HERE WHEN, WHEN HE SAID THAT HE WOULD RECOMMEND SO WITHOUT FAIL, IF HE COME TO WHETHER HE SHOWS UP NEXT WEEK OR NOT, IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

HE TOLD ME TODAY THAT HE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE LIFT IT IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK.

I THINK IT IS.

IT IS.

BUT IF HE, IF LARRY DOESN'T SHOW UP, WE STILL, BECAUSE HE RECOMMENDED, OKAY, LAST WEEK HERE, LAST WEEK, HE HAD RECOMMENDED WHEN I LIFTED THAT THE FIRE SERVICES WOULD NOT TO DO IT.

SO EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT HERE IN PERSON DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CANNOT ACT ON IT.

IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.

THAT IS MY QUESTION.

YEAH, NO, IF HE'S NOT HERE IN PERSON AND HE HAS SENT WORD TO ONE OF US TO LIFT THE FIRE BAND, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COURT.

UM, LEMME ASK A QUESTION.

IS EVERYBODY GONNA BE IN TOWN THIS WEEK? IS EVERYBODY HERE? I'LL BE PROBATE JUDGE.

YOU KNOW, I, I'M FINE WITH, YOU KNOW, CALLING SEVEN TWO HOURS AND JUST CALL AND THAT'S THE TAKE THREE OF US.

COME DOWN HERE AND DO IT.

ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OF STUDY IS GOING TO PUT US PRETTY CLOSE TO THE FROST STATE IN THIS AREA AND ALL THAT.

PRETTY LITTLE GREEN GRASS IS ABOUT THIS HIGH WILL BE FLAMMABLE AND THEN IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.

IT'LL BE IN POSITION.

DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE FARM MARSHAL SAID IT UNDER THE STATUS QUO THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW, HE'S GONNA RECOMMEND MONDAY THAT WE LIFT THE BANK.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT FOUR WEEKS AGO WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM IN A POINTED DOWN ROUND THAT HE SAID HE WAS ON THE AGENDA THE NEXT WEEK OR TO TALK TO AND IT WOULD BRING IT UP AND Y'ALL HAD TO VOTE ON IT.

AND HE TOLD ME THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT IT'S PLENTY WET TO LIFT THE BURN BAND.

HE EVEN INDICATED HE HAD SOME STUFF OF HIS OWN.

JIM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP YOU OUT AND YOU DON'T, YOU JUST WON'T STOP CHEWING ON US.

WELL, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR WAIT, WAIT.

NO, I'M TALKING NOW.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO BE QUIET.

I WAS JUST ASKING THE JUDGE IF THERE'S A TIME THAT THREE OF US CAN, AT LEAST A QUORUM OF US CAN GET TOGETHER AND LIFT THE BURN BED.

NOW, WOULD YOU BE HAPPY WITH THAT? I'D BE TICKLED.

WELL, WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP TWO OF US OUT AND LET US DISCUSS THIS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT DONE? I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE NOW.

I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IF THE JUDGE WILL ALLOW.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SEVEN TWO HOURS NOTICE WOULD BE WHAT? MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY AFTER FRIDAY.

11 O'CLOCK ON, UH, WEDNESDAY.

WEDNESDAY 11 O'CLOCK ON THURSDAY.

IT HAS TO BE THURSDAY.

IT HAS TO BE THURSDAY.

I CAN'T MAKE THURSDAY .

I'M SORRY.

YOU KNOW, HELP YOU.

I PROMISED MY DAUGHTER I WOULD GO TO HARDING AND HEAR SONY.

AND HOW LONG, I MEAN, WHEN WILL YOU BE BACK? FRIDAY? YEAH.

HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT WELL WAIT MINUTE.

THE THREE OF US CAN DO IT.

YEAH, WE CAN DO IT.

JUDGING TWO OF US.

YEAH, I WON'T BE HERE.

YOU WON'T BE HERE THAN THE THREE OF US CAN.

I'LL BE JUDGES.

DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM GIVING THE 72 HOUR? I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

I DON'T CARE WHERE IT'S YOU.

I'LL CAN YOU I'LL TRY .

YEAH, I'LL BE HERE 11 O'CLOCK ON UH, 30.

YEAH, 10 30 I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FLY.

I'LL CANCEL THE DATE WITH MARILYN.

GET YOUR TICKET.

GO TO MY KIDS.

OKAY, LET'S TRY THAT COURSE.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S GONNA COST ME 200 .

PASS IT ON TO THE NEXT CUSTOMER.

CAN WE GET IT TYPED ON THE BOARD WITHIN BY 11 O'CLOCK OR 12? YEAH, THURSDAY.

THURSDAY AT 11.

OKAY.

RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT HERE.

THURSDAY 11.

SPECIAL MEETING TO, UH, ASSESS, CONSIDER LIFTING THE FIREMAN.

JAMIE, ONE THING I DO WANT TO TELL YOU IS COMMISSIONER AND I JUST BEEN, TWO WEEKS AGO, WE, OUR LAST LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, UH, AND OUR GRADUATION ACADEMY IN A&M AND THEY HAVE IN ONE OF THEIR BUILDINGS DOWN THERE ON A M CAMPUS WHERE THEY'VE GOT BIG SCREEN TELEVISION, THE WHOLE STATE OF TIME, EVERY COUNTY, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE FOR THAT COUNTY AT THE, LIKE RIGHT NOW

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YOU CAN GO TO WWW , SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'VE, BUT ANYWAY THAT YOU CAN GET ON IT AND PULL UP AND IT TELLS YOU THE NUMBERS WILL BE MANDATE HAS EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ALL FOUR COUNTY.

AND THAT IS NOW I'VE GOT ONE OTHER THING TO SAY, JIMMY, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE REST OF OUR BUSINESS.

OKAY? SURE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR YOU TO BE HERE.

YOU GOT A SPECIFIC PROBLEM, OKAY? YES SIR.

BUT IF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WERE TO VOTE TO LIFT THE FIREMAN, WHEN THE FIRE MARSHAL SAYS DON'T DO IT, OR WHEN THE FOREST SERVICE SAYS DON'T DO IT, AND THERE'S A FIRE OUT THERE, THEN, THEN WE GET SUED BIG TIME.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S WHY I WAS REQUESTING THE, THE PERMIT OR ASKING ABOUT THE PERMIT PROCESS.

IT LOOK, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IF A COMPANY HAS LIABILITY INSURANCE TO COVER ANY DAMAGE, IF, IF THE PERMIT REQUIRED, HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A WATER TRUCK ON SITE, HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE, TRENCH BURN, WHATEVER'S THE SAFEST WAY, YOU KNOW, TO BURN IF THEY PASS THE, THE CRITERIA TO GET A PERMIT THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO BURN, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THIS IS TRUE, AS LONG AS WE GET THAT PERMITTING PROCESS AND RIGHT IN, IN EFFECT, THEN GREAT.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT WE, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU DON'T JUST PASS AN ORDER PERMIT THE FIRE.

YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA DO THE COMPREHENSIVE FIRE CODE.

I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

ALRIGHT, WE NEED TO MOVE ON, MAAM.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK THE COURT.

UH, WE GOT ANY BILLS, SIR? I HAVE, DOES IT REQUIRE A RESOLUTION, AN IDEA TO ASSIST THE AUDITOR, AUDITOR IN AND THE TREASURER TO MAKE THE TRANSITION FROM ONE BUDGET CYCLE TO ANOTHER TO STOP PAYMENT FROM 15TH OF SEPTEMBER TO ONE? THE BILLS GET PAID AND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THIS.

IS THIS ALL THESE CALLS? THE CONCRETE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

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I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T.

RESOLUTION, WE'LL SEE, I DIDN'T OUT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I DIDN'T.

ONE THROUGH THROUGH PRECINCT PUSHING FOR NEXT WEEK.

I HAVE A CONFERENCE.

IT'S NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER.

BUT IT'LL BE IN THE NO, JUST US LEFT.

CAN

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WE LOSE? REMOVE THE BURN BAND.

THE TREE FALLS IN THE FOREST AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE.

HERE.

THEY PAID THE BILLS.

HAVE YOU PAID THE BILL? NO.

NO.

WHY DON'T WE MR. I HAVEN'T EVEN ALL THE I WANT THEM, I WANT THEM TO LOOK AT 'EM THOUGH.

, YOU CAN LOOK AT 'EM FIRST BEFORE I MET THEM.

CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UP ON THE INTERNET.

COPY BUDGET COPY.

OKAY.

BUT I HAVE, I HAVE THE, WELL, WHAT I GOT FROM THE EMAIL WAS JUST THE, THE GENERAL FILE.

OH, OKAY.

MAYBE I'LL LIED TO YOU.

WELL THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AN EXTRA ATTACHMENT.

I THINK MINE TWO ATTACHMENTS.

I DON'T RECALL.

I KNOW I HAVE ONE TIME.

IT'S ALL OH, I DIDN'T, OH, OKAY.

THIS? YES, THANK YOU.

THAT'S GENERAL.

OKAY.

WALLACE JUST DOES CHICKENS.

WHAT THE THING THAT WE SAID LAST THURSDAY, 20% INCREASE REVENUE, AMEND, WAIT, EXPLAIN THAT SOUNDED LIKE COUNTERTOP, EXPENDITURES.

GENERAL BUDGET, CURRENT BUDGET.

THAT'S BUDGET.

BUDGET AFTER WE WENT.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UH, I ALREADY GOT THE ANSWER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S THE ANSWER.

I DON'T WANNA DO IT.

UM, LAST YEAR FOR CHRISTMAS, OF COURSE MY WIFE'S TERRIBLE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT NANCY, BUT SHE SAID THE VIDEOTAPES ARE NOT, I'VE SEEN HER DO IT.

AND OF COURSE HER BOSS WHO RETIRED AND SHE TOOK HIS PLACE, I WAS TELLING HIM WHAT I GOT FOR CHRISTMAS.

HE SAID, WOW, THAT'S COOL.

HE SAID, THEY'RE FIRST CLASS C.

AND I GO, NO, THEY'RE COKES .

HE SAID, WELL, THAT'LL BE FUN.

WELL GUESS WHAT? I'M LOOKING AT THIS CHRISTMAS

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BEHIND AGAIN BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE DOING THEM EVERY DAY SAYING THAT'S ALMOST, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ONE LINE.

I FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU MAP TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER YOU MAKING MONEY OR NOT.

WHEN DID YOU, YOU SAID IT MONDAY, RIGHT? MONDAY, TUESDAY OR, OKAY.

YES.

IS THAT, DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE? MONDAY, TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY WORKS FOR ME.

FOR WHAT? FOR THIS MEETING WITH UH, THREE OF US.

WELL, WE, NO, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO POST IT.

I'VE GOTTA GET WITH CITIES AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR THEM AND ALL OF US ARE SUPPOSED TO OKAY, JUST CALL GIE.

YEAH, LIKE TO SAY, I MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE JUST, YOU KNOW, KENNETH AND I SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY, WE REPRESENT ALL THE CITIES THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED.

WHY NOT? WHAT A BIG DEAL.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE AREA WHY.

YEAH, BUT TWO, KENNETH AND, AND KEN AND ME ARE THERE.

WE GOT SO, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER EVERYBODY BE ON MORE, EVERYBODY FOR ALL OF US TO BE THERE TO KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA TRANSPIRE.

SO WE, EACH ONE HAS INPUT INTO IT.

UH, LITTLE BIT OF Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL INFORMATION.

UH, LAST, UH, FRIDAY, THE RS SEIZED OUR, UH, ANIMAL AND WE PICK UP ABOUT 30 TO $40 A WEEK.

SO I TOLD THEM DON'T PICK ANY OTHER, CAN WE BUY 'EM? CAN WE BUY IT ON COURTHOUSE STEPS? .

HEY, THAT'S A THOUGHT BECAUSE IT'S IN ANDERSON COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, WE BETTER CALL ANDERSON COUNTY.

SEE WE CAN BUY IT.

? NO, IT WAS IRS ACQUISITION, NOT COUNTY.

OH YEAH.

IT'S FUNNY.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE 5 0 1.

YEAH, THEY ARE.

MAYBE THE PROBLEM, MAYBE THEY'RE MAKING MONEY OUTTA THEY.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, I DON'T, I HAVE NO IDEA.

UH, THE SHERIFF HAS NO IDEA WHY, BUT, UH, I GOT CALL.

THEY HAVE DONE IT.

SO CALL IN BUS.

I SUGGESTED, UH, IF SOMETHING, IF EMERGENCY ARISES, MAYBE, UH, CALL MATERIAL AND SEE WHAT COULD, WE COULD WORK OUT MATERIAL.

THE PROBLEM MATERIAL IS THEY KEEP THEM 48 HOURS, THEN WE EUTHANIZE THEM A, IT'S A NO KILL DOWN THERE.

DO WE JUST CONTRACT WITH THEM? IS THAT WHAT THEY, WE PAY THEM, UH, 500 A MONTH.

IS IT FIVE OR 600 A MONTH TO TAKE ALL BY THE WAY, WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND IF THEY SHUT DOWN, WE DON'T NEED TO SEND THEM MY NEXT PAYMENT.

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, MAYBE THEY SEIZED ONE DAY AND MAYBE THEY MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO OPEN BACK UP.

WE DON'T KNOW.

BUT THE SHERIFF AND I ARE GONNA VISIT THAT.

WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA REVISIT THAT, I WANT TO LOOK AT OUR POLICY.

I GOT ABOUT THREE MORE CALLS ABOUT THAT TODAY.

WHAT I TOLD HER LAST.

YES, IT IS IT, I FINALLY TOLD HER THAT SHE, I HEARD YOU BEEN KNOWN ABOUT A HUNDRED TIMES ABOUT THIS.

IF SOMEBODY GETS KILLED OUT THERE, THEN I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU'RE GONNA BE NEGLIGENT BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU.

I SAID, OKAY, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS ANIMAL? WELL, NO.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANYBODY THAT HAS SEEN THIS ANIMAL? NO.

I SAID, WELL, YOU, ANYBODY THAT SEES THAT YOU HAVE THEM CROSS.

AND SHE SAID, WELL, I, IT'S A COUGAR.

I SAID, HELP COUGARS RUN WILD OUT HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE, THIS IS NOT A COUGAR THAT ESCAPED.

SHE SAID, WELL, I THINK THERE'S A BUNCH OF TIGER TOO.

WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THE BILL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER TO PAY THE BILLS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES HOW YOU CAN PAY THE BILLS.

UM, KIM'S GOING TO CALL ME WHEN THEY DETERMINE WHICH STATE'S GOOD FOR THAT.

MONDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, OR WEDNESDAY NIGHT NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

I'LL CALL THEM

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ASK.

AND UM, AND THIS OTHER THING, THURSDAY AT 11, I DON'T HAVE Y'ALL POSTED TO ME HERE THURSDAY 11 TO DISCUSS LIFTING.

CORRECT.

THAT'LL BE THE ONLY THING.

YOU GOT THAT MOTION? AJOUR AYE.

MOTION CARRIES ADJOURN.