* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] UM, LET'S SEE, KEN, YOU THIS MORNING. PRAY. FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO GIVE US A PLACE ABOVE ALL YOUR CREATION. FATHER, WE, WE THANK YOU THAT, THAT YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH US AND FATHER AND IN YOUR HEART TO, FOR, FOR US TO COME TO YOU IN PRAYER. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNTY AND FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN IT. FATHER, WE, WE THANK YOU FOR, FOR OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT MAKE THIS A, A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR FOR OUR TROOPS WHO ARE OVERSEAS IN HARM'S WAY. AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR, FOR THEIR FAMILIES. AND WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH, WITH, WITH THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND HELP, HELP FOR THEM TO COME HOME SOON. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR LEADERS THAT HAVE, HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THE DEFENSE OF OUR COUNTRY. AND WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM AND, AND GIVE THEM COURAGE AS, AS THEY PROTECT THE NATION WE LIVE IN. FATHER, PLEASE GUIDE US. GRANT US WISDOM AS WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR THIS COUNTY. AND FATHER, WE, IN THE BIG PICTURE, IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS SMALL, BUT WE HAVE A, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A JOB TO DO THAT, THAT, THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THE BIG PICTURE. FATHER AGAIN, GRANT'S WISDOM AND GRANT'S PATIENCE AND JESUS, NAME THE FLAG PLEASE. I PLEAD ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR TEXAS FLAG, IP OF STEVE IN TEXAS ONE AND INDIVIDUALLY LY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CHANGE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND THEN THE, UH, MEETING OF, UH, OKAY, WE GOT TWO, THE 14TH AND THE 18TH. YES. BOTH OF Y'ALL MAKE THE MOTIONS TO APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE. RIGHT? I ALRIGHT. RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVE. BOTH OF EM SAY AYE. A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE UH, FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP THIS MORNING IS, UH, NUMBER ITEM 15 ON OUR AGENDA, UH, IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING PROCLAMATION FOR PLANNING THE WEEK OF OCTOBER. FIRST THROUGH THE SEVENTH, 2006 AS NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR FOUR INCH PROGRAM AND I'D LIKE FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ARE HERE IN THAT MATTER JUST TO COME FORWARD AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND, UH, TELL US WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND WHAT, UH, FOUR INCH CLUB YOU BELONG TO AND ALL THE GOOD STUFF. AND THEN WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THOUGH, THAT WE'RE ONLY, WE BE A JOURNEY 12 BLACK TAKE ALL TIME. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. MY NAME'S CHRIS. TODAY I'M THE PRESIDENT OF OUR KAMAN FOUR H CLUB. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF OUR KAMAN COUNTY FOUR. GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN. I'M BRIANNA MOORE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HUNT SCHOOL FOUR H CLUB AND THE SECRETARY OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COUNCIL. MORNING. I AM LOGAN MOORE. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COUNCIL. I'M ALSO THE PARLIAMENTARIAN AND THE COUNCIL DELEGATE FOR THE HOMESCHOOL FOUR H CLUB. FOUR H IS A COMMUNITY WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE LEARN LEADERSHIP, CITIZENSHIP AND LIFE SKILLS. FOUR H IS ONE OF THE LARGEST YOUTH DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN TEXAS WITH NEARLY ONE IN EVERY 10 TEXAS YOUTH INVOLVED IN FOUR H AND FOUR H IN TEXAS CLAIMS 959,595 YOUTH MEMBERS AND 48,705 ADULT VOLUNTEERS. WHILE KAUFMAN COUNTY'S FOUR [00:05:01] H PROGRAM MEMBERS ARE OVER 250 MEMBERS AND OVER 80 VOLUNTEERS. AND FOUR H IS PART OF THE TEXAS CORPORATE EXTENSION IS A PROGRAM WHERE YOUTH LEARN TOGETHER IN ALL KINDS OF PROJECTS, EVENTS, AND ACTIVITIES. FOUR H HAS BEEN HELPING YOUTH AND ADULTS LEARN, GROW, WORK TOGETHER FOR MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS. THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FOUR H CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT PROGRAM HAS REACHED OVER 5,000 STUDENTS IN CHARACTER EDUCATION, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND AG LITERACY PROGRAMS. WORKING WITH OVER 250 VOLUNTEERS. I, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST ADU ALL AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT CARRIE YES, SIR. YOU DON'T KNOW HAVE CARRIE SHARP OUR, OUR FOUR H LEADER. AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT SHE DOES AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THESE YOUNG PEOPLE DO. AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE THESE LAST EIGHT YEARS WATCHING THESE KIDS GROW. YES. WATCHING THE KIDS GROW OVER THE LAST, I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE FOR 10 YEARS AND WATCHING THE KIDS WE'RE GOING ON NINE YEARS AND WATCHING THESE YOUNG ONES GROW INTO NOT SO YOUNG ONES IS QUITE A EVOLVING CHANGE FOR ME. SO, BUT WE DO REALIZE THAT THE, THE YOUTH ARE OUR FUTURE LOOKING AT THESE, WE THINK IT'S IN PRETTY GOOD HANDS. THANK YOU. THE FOUR H PROGRAM IN KAUFMAN COUNTY COULDN'T ACHIEVE WHAT THEY HAVE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. AND WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE STRONGER PROGRAMS IN THE STATE, AND THAT HAS PROVEN LAST YEAR WITH OUR KIDS COMING HOME WITH OVER $26,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS. AND SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, I THANK YOU ALL FOR OUR, OUR YOUR SUPPORT AND, UM, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU ALL NEXT MONDAY AND FOR A LOT OF GOOD FOOD, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TOO. UH, I'M SURE. WELL, I'M NOT SURE EITHER, BUT, UH, WHETHER THESE GUYS ALL PARTICIPATED IN FOUR H, BUT, UH, I DID, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, I HAD A GARDEN, ONE PROJECT. I HAD A GARDEN ONE YEAR I GOT A CAL OUT AND ONE YEAR I HAD MY HORSE. THAT WAS A DIFFERENT HORSE THOUGH. WASN'T THE INFAMOUS HORSE, BUT THAT WAS, UH, LONG, LONG AGO. IMAGINE EVEN LONG BEFORE YOUR PARENTS WERE BORN. SO, BUT ANYWAY, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND, UH, UH, I KNOW KIM'S WATCHED Y'ALL GROW UP ALSO AND BEEN WITH Y'ALL AND, AND, UH, BUT WE'VE ENTERTAINED A MOTION THEN TO DECLARE THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH THE SEVENTH, FOUR WEEK, WEEK IN CALTON COUNTY. I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I HAVE WATCHED Y'ALL GROW UP AND IT, IT IS AWESOME TO SEE THE LEADERSHIP THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE FOUR H CLUB AND MYSELF. I, UH, I GREW UP IN FLORESVILLE, TEXAS, IN SOUTH TEXAS. I WAS IN FOUR H AND I PROBABLY NEVER TOLD Y'ALL THIS, BUT WHEN I WAS 11, I ENTERED A CAKE IN THE COUNTY FAIR. AND, AND, UH, I, I FOUND A PICTURE IN A MAGAZINE OF A CAKE THAT LOOKED LIKE A CASTLE. AND THE THEME WAS THE PEANUT FESTIVAL. 'CAUSE THEY GROW PEANUTS IN FLORESVILLE, TEXAS. AND SO I TOOK THE RECIPE OFF OF A BACK OF A FLOWER BAG AND MADE A CAKE AND CUT IT WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE A CASTLE. AND I HAD CHOCOLATE DRAWBRIDGES ON IT. I HAD SPIRES MADE OUT OF SNOW CONES AND OR ICE CREAM CONES AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. ONE THE STATE COUNTY FAIR WITH MY, WITH MY CAKE. WELL, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD EVER ENTERED AN ENTRY IN A, IN ANY KIND OF, UH, CONTEST LIKE THAT. THEY ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO AUCTION IT AND I SAID, NO, I WANT TO TAKE IT ALL AND EAT IT . AND THEN I FOUND OUT HOW MUCH CAKE SELL FOR AT THE COUNTY FAIR. AND I WISH I HAD AUCTIONED IT. UM, BUT, BUT Y'ALL ARE AWESOME KIDS AND, AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO, TO SEE Y'ALL GROW UP IN THE YOUNG LEADERS AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, I'M THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING Y'ALL'S ACHIEVEMENT. THANK YOU. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WELL, GOOD LUCK AND WE'LL SEE Y'ALL NEXT MONDAY. THANK Y'ALL. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. UH, THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT, UH, SOME OF US BELONG TO THAT EACH YEAR THEY HAVE A, UH, UH, BAKE OFF FOR THE, UH, THE MEN BAKE BAKE, UH, CAKES AND COOKIES AND STUFF FOR THAT ORGANIZATION FOR AN AUCTION. [00:10:01] AND COMMISSIONER LEONARD ALWAYS COMES UP WITH, UH, AND I ASSUME THIS IS BEFORE YOU LEARN TO DO THAT, BUT HE ALWAYS COMES UP WITH DIFFERENT DESIGNS ON HIS CAKES AND UM, UM, SOME OF THEM ARE REAL INTERESTING, SOMETIMES PRETTY INNOVATIVE. YEAH. SO WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE FOUR H LEADERS DO AND THE PARENTS AND UH, BUT IT'S NOT EASY GETTING THE KIDS TO THEIR MEETINGS AND MAKING SURE THEIR PROJECTS STAY ON LINE AND EVERYTHING. OKAY, NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS, UH, TO DISCUSS NOW IT'S 10 O'CLOCK. UH, THE STATUS OF THE COUNTYWIDE BURN BAN OUR FARM LARRY WASN'T ME. HUH? THAT'S BAD, HUH? YEAH. YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, DID YOU? GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AS YOU KNOW, WE TOOK IT OFF, UM, A SPECIAL MEETING ON THURSDAY. WE HAD FORTUNATELY MET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT THE FIRE CHIEF MEETING AND TOLD 'EM ABOUT IT. SO THEY WERE EXPECTING IT AND WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT IF THEY STARTED HAVING ANY PROBLEMS, THEY LEAVE ME MESSAGES. OVER THE WEEKEND WE HAD ZERO. EVERYTHING APPARENTLY, FROM EVERYBODY THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO WENT JUST FINE. COURSE WE HAD WIND. I THINK PEOPLE DID JUST COMMON SENSE AND DIDN'T DO. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BURNING GOING ON TODAY IN THE COUNTY THAT WE'VE NOTICED, BUT IT'S ALL LEGITIMATE CONTROLLED BURNS. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST NOT HAVING ANY KIND OF PROBLEMS. SO I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT WE CAN PROBABLY AT LEAST GO AHEAD AND EXTEND IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK AND I'LL GET BACK ON THE AGENDA AND BY NEXT MONDAY WE SHOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN LEAVE IT OFF FOR WHILE EXTEND THE LIFT, EXTEND THE LIFTING OF THE BURN BAND FOR ANOTHER WEEK RIGHT NOW. FOR SURE. YEAH. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER LER IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. MOTION CARRIES. SO WE WILL LIFT THE BURN VAN FOR ONE MORE WEEK AND LOOK AT THE STATUS NEXT MONDAY. PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MONDAY. LAST TIME MY YOUTH MINISTER ASKED, ASKED ME IF WE COULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, BONFIRE WEAN ROAST ON MY PROPERTY. AND I SAID, DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OR WE CAN'T. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE. . ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. MOTION CARE. OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE WANT TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER RIB POINTING. LARRY AS A KAUFMAN COUNTY FARM MARSHAL FOR TWO YEAR TERM MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR? THE AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIES. DIDN'T EVEN COST ME ANY DONUTS OR NOTHING. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK, APPRECIATE IT. JUST GOOD WORK. THAT'S ALL IT. THANK YOU, SIR. I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT THANK FINDING SOMEBODY THAT COULD REPLACE JACK, THAT OPENING OF THE CONCRETE BID. IS THAT THE 10 O'CLOCK ALSO? NO, WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW, SIR. ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S TAKE THAT ITEM UP THEN. WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, I ASSUME WE HAVE A BID. YES, SIR. UH, ALTHOUGH WE CONTACTED, UH, ABOUT A DOZEN VENDORS. OBJECTION SHEET ONE BID. MR. FRY, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO OPEN THAT BID FOR CONCRETE FOR KEMP CONVENIENCE STATION. MR. DOUGH MAKES THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER ROBIN SECONDS. IT ALL MOTION CARRIES. SO WE CAN OPEN THE BID. BID IS FROM RICK, UH, WATSON OUT TARRELL, TEXAS. ON ITEM ONE, WHICH IS THE WALL OF THE BID IS 36,300. AND THE DRIVEWAY AREA, WHICH IS AN OPTION, IS, UH, 74,100 HAVE TO DEFER TO COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, DALE, THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE IT, UH, DIDN'T GO ON AGENDA AS THE WOULD BE. SO ALL WE CAN DO THIS MORNING IS OVER. I NEED TO, UH, WHATEVER THE CASE, WE CAN'T PROVE THERE'S NOT THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, I GOT SOME CORRESPONDENCE FROM COG YESTERDAY. I HAVE REQUESTED A SLIGHT CHANGE, BUT IF YOU NOTICE, IF YOU ADD THOSE TWO UP THOUSAND, MY GRANT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND. UH, OF COURSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO PUT A LIKE AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT I'M WAITING FOR THEIR ANSWER ON, [00:15:01] ON ON THE CHANGE, WHICH WILL SAVE ME QUITE A FEW THOUSAND OF DOLLARS IN THE, IN THE CONSTRUCTION. AND I GOT PATRICIA, I GOT LETTER EMERGENCY. THEIR ENGINEER'S GONNA REVIEW MY SUGGESTIONS. SEEMS LIKE. OKAY, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO AT LATER DATE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE WAS A SECOND BID THAT I UNDERSTAND WAS MAILED, BUT WE NEVER DID RECEIVE THAT BID FOR SOME REASON. AND IT WAS THE CONTRACTOR THAT DID THE CONCRETE WORK ACROSS THE STREET. WE NEVER, WELL, WASN'T BUYING THE LAND. OUR MATCH ON THAT GRANT, THAT'S ONLY 50. WE GOT 50 MORE TO GO. THAT'S WHY THIS, IT'S GONNA FIT. BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY TO, I'D LIKE CHANGE THE DESIGN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE REVIEWING IT AT, AT COG. AND WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY? OR YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL, LET'S WAIT UNTIL I GET THE ANSWER. I KNOW WHEN I GET THE ANSWER FROM THEM. SO PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA, IT'LL BE TO, OKAY. THANK YOU JAN. UH, NEXT ITEM. JOHNNY, ARE YOU STILL HERE? YES. IT'S, UH, TO DISCUSS ANY CHANGES TO COLTON COUNTY RETIREMENT PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND RECOMMENDATION IS NONE, JUDGE, BECAUSE THE I RATE WENT UP THIS YEAR. IF WE LOOK OFF GROUND, THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR RUNNING AVERAGE FOR OUR RATE AND IT WENT 7.05 TO 7.27, WHICH COSTS ABOUT 35,000 EXTRA YEAR ADDING INCREASE THAT. OKAY, SO PUT THAT ONE. OKAY. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, NO CHANGES AT ALL OTHER THAN THAT COST ON AND JUST THE AUTOMATIC, UH, DEAL FROM TECH. SO IF WE WANTED TO DO ANYTHING, SAY FOR THE RETIREES, THEN THAT WOULD BE ON TOP OF THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT THAT NUMBER IS IN THE BUDGET. WE ALL JOHNNY'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY CHANGES, UH, TO THE RETIREMENT PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR. MOTION MADE BY MR. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE ITEM. NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSTING NO THROUGH TRUCKS. SIGNED ON COUNTY ROAD TWO 12. I PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA. UH, UM, COUNTY ROAD TWO 12 IS, UH, RUNS BETWEEN HELMS TRAIL AND HIGHWAY 80 WITH CITY OF FORNEY AND ASKS THAT WE CLOSE OUR END. THE CITY OF FORNEY'S GONNA CLOSE THEIR END TO TRUCKS. SO I AGREED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO CLOSE THE COUNTY CITY'S JUST PUT, UH, SURFACED TO LARGE PART AND WE HAVE A, WE HAVEN'T SURFACED OUR PART, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER LEONARD MAKES THE MOTION. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. DR. COMMISSIONER ROWDEN, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSED. CONSIDER APPROVING M EMBARK REQUEST FOR COMMUNICATIONS DROP UPON ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY OF MATTER. ROAD 40 60 AND THEN BORING UNDER 40 60. OKAY, I GOT IS THE DROP WHERE THEY DRILLING IN THE DITCH WHERE THEY DRILL DOWN. OKAY. I'VE JUST NEVER HEARD A CALL A DROP. THAT'S A BIG OLD GRAY POST YOU SEE STICKING UP. SO WHEN THE COMMISSIONER TELLER MAKES THAT MOTION. I, SIR. COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT ITEM TO DISCUSS. CONSIDER APPROVING AN UNLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN KEMP AND COFFMAN COUNTY FOR USE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON AN HOURLY BASIS BASIS AS A RENEWAL. WE, WE DO THIS, WE'VE DONE IT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH KEN. UH, THEY USE OUR EQUIPMENT, WE KEEP TRACK OF THE HOURS AND WE, WE BILL THEM AT $75 AN HOUR FOR EVERY HOUR THAT THEY, OKAY, COMMISSIONER GENERAL MAKES THAT MOTION. [00:20:02] SECOND IT. COMMISSIONER ROWDEN SECONDS IT, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL DECLARE AYE. AYE. AND THE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSION CONSIDERING LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY OF CARRIER. YES, THIS IS A ALSO A RENEWAL ROAD. MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS ARE ANNUALLY RENEWED. UH, THIS IS A RENEWAL. UH, I MAKE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KELLER. SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROWDEN DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT HAVE DISCUSSION. CONSIDER APPRO THE APPOINTMENT OF SEAN MAYFIELD AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. OCTOBER 1ST IS, UH, SHELLY HERE, JURY AS PRECINCT ONE. UH, MAKE THAT MOTION JUDGE. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TELLER ON VOTE I. MOTION CARRIES. UH, JERRY, WE HAVE A DALLAS CROWN REPORT FOR THE WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER 14TH. YOU, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT I MOVE THAT WE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE, ACKNOWLEDGE THE FILING OF LETTER REPORT BY COMMISSIONER CARRY SOME LOVE FOR YOU. SECOND, I'M SURE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD. MOTION CARRIED. I JUDGE, SINCE IT'S NOT 10 O'CLOCK, CAN I GO GET A GLASS OF WATER? YES. YES. YEAH, I AGREE. ANYTHING ELSE GET, DOESN'T LIKE ANY BIGGER ANYTHING EVER. OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO ORDER NOW. IT'S 10 O'CLOCK WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA. THE FIRST THING IS TO CONSIDER TALKING THE BUDGET FOR YEAR 2006, 2007. WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROU DISCUSSION. UM, I HAVE SOME, UM, SINCE THE LAST BUDGET HEARING, [00:25:01] UH, WE, UH, IT'S, IT'S BE BECOME APPARENT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN AVALANCHE OF, UH, DEFENSE, PUBLIC DEFENSE. UH, WE ALREADY HAD TWO CAPITAL MURDERS ON THE BOOKS AND IF Y'ALL READ THE NEWSPAPERS WE'RE, WE, WE MAY WELL HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH MORE. UH, AND CAPITAL MERGER TRIALS AREN'T EXPENSIVE. OUR ONCE THEY'RE, I MEAN, NOT THE CHEAP. AND OUR SAVING GRACE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO OPPOSE THE DEFENDER SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA STILL EXTEND THE AVALANCHE 'CAUSE WITH, UH, CAPITAL MURDERS, WE'VE GOT TO, UH, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM AN ATTORNEY IF THEY'RE INDIGENT. AND ALMOST EVERYBODY WHO COMMITS CAPITAL MURDER IS INDIGENT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TRY CAPITAL MURDER BASED ON ECONOMICS. I MEAN, IF, IF THEY, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO GO AS FAR AS YOU NEED TO GO, UM, THROUGH THE LEGAL SYSTEM AS, AS THE EVENTS DEMANDS. AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE WERE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SIX AND MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THAT. UH, AND, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD RUN, I DON'T KNOW, AS MUCH AS A MILLION DOLLARS FOR CAPITAL MURDER FRAUD. UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO I HAVE, I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE EVEN DISCUSSED BECAUSE IT, IT, IT, WE ONLY HAD TWO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH, THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUNCH MORE. UM, ONE ISSUE, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, UH, I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO, UH, TO TALK ABOUT CHANGING. I'M GONNA MAKE A LAST DITCH EFFORT. AND THAT'S THE WAY WE ALLOCATE, UH, CAR ALLOWANCES. WE, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. RADEN MADE THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GO TO A SYSTEM WHERE WE PAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RATE ON CAR ALLOWANCES. AND WHEN I RAN THE NUMBERS, IF WE DO THAT, LITERALLY WE'RE NOT REALLY CUTTING ANYBODY BECAUSE THE WAY WE PAY IT NOW IS A SALARY. UH, SO FEDERAL WITHHOLDING HAS TO COME OUT OF THAT MONEY FROM THE EMPLOYEE PLUS WHATEVER OTHER WITHHOLDING COMES OUT OF SALARY. PLUS THE, YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO MATCH IT. SO, UH, IF WE, IF WE ASSUME THAT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT IS GOING TO PAY FEDERAL TAXES AND WITHHOLDING, IF WE JUST SIMPLY WENT TO ASKING, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING, UH, TWO THIRDS OF WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED IN THE PAST, ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY'S DRIVING THE NUMBER OF MILES THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, WE WOULD SAVE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EASILY. WE WOULD SAVE $150,000 JUST BY CHANGING THE WAY WE ACCOUNT FOR CAR ALLOWANCES. AND WE'RE NOT CUTTING EMPLOYEES AT ALL. I MEAN, ALL WE'RE DOING IS ASKING EMPLOYEES TO KEEP A LOG, KEEP TRACK OF THE MILES THAT THEY, THEY DRIVE AND, AND, UH, ASSUMING THEY ARE DRIVING THE NUMBER OF MILES WE'RE PAYING THAT NOBODY LOSES. WELL, I GOT, I I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT OVER THE WEEKEND AND I GOT, I GOT A EMAIL FROM OUR CONGRESSMAN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW HE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF, OF PROTECTING US AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND, AND, UH, HE LISTS IN THE EMAIL THAT HE SENT OUT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL ISSUES THAT HE, THAT HE VOTED AGAINST, UH, THAT THEY CALL, UH, SOME CALL, UH, CONGRESSIONAL EARMARKS, UH, 800,000 FOR BUSES AT DISNEYLAND, $179,000 FOR HYDROPONIC TOMATO RESEARCH, A A MILLION DOLLARS FOR, UH, FREE WATER URINAL CONSERVATION INITIATIVE. $500,000 FOR THE TEAPOT MUSEUM. UH, AND LAST, NOT BUT, BUT NOT LEAST 223 MILLION FOR THE NOW FAMOUS BRIDGE TO NOWHERE, WHICH IS IN ALASKA. UH, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, WE COULD SAVE $150,000 NOT JUST THIS YEAR, BUT EVERY YEAR FROM NOW ON THAT WE USE THAT ACCOUNTING SYSTEM OVER SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS. UM, AND WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN MATCH UP WITH THE, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE, THE KIND OF MONEY WE COULD SAVE IN THE COUNTY. AND I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PASS THIS BUDGET TO AMEND IT AND, AND, UH, UH, [00:30:01] GO AHEAD AND GO TO THAT, THAT SYSTEM. UM, BUT I, I, I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, AND I KNOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HERE AT THE LAST MINUTE, UH, I'VE SEEN COUNTIES THAT HAVE, HAVE GONE, YOU KNOW, INTO DECEMBER BEFORE THEY GOT A BUDGET PASSED. BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS, UM, THE CAPITAL MURDERS THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE, UM, IF I'M AFRAID IF WE DON'T, WE'RE GONNA BE STUCK BORROWING MONEY TO MAKE BUDGET HERE AGAIN, JUST LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, I I I'M NOT GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE SMORGASBORD, BUT, BUT, UH, UH, I, I WOULD THROW THAT OUT. SEE IF, SEE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN, IN PURSUING THOSE. WE'VE GOT A MOTION MAY GO AHEAD. UH, ANOTHER ISSUE I'VE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. I JUDGE HAS GOT HIS SON-IN-LAW AND HE'S GONNA BE OUR DA AND WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW WE GOING TO KEEP HIM IN BUSINESS UP HERE. BUT I THINK PROBABLY WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS COMMERS, MAYBE TO GO BACK TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET OF WHAT WE RECEIVED IN OUR BUDGET AND, AND PUT OUR PART BACK INTO, UH, COUNTY FUNDS TO HELP HELP OUR COUNTY HERE. I I JUST, I KNOW IT'S HARD ON ME AND I KNOW IT'S HARD ON JURY AND IT'S GONNA BE HARD ON JIM AND ALSO ON, ON THE PRECINCT TOO. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE, WE'VE GOT TIGHTEN THE BELT TO IT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ROAD BRIDGE, RIGHT? TO HELP, HELP THE SITUATION. AND I'M WILLING TO GO MY MY PORTION OF THE, OF THE DEAL. AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BUDGET SINCE MAY. UH, WE'VE INTERVIEWED, UH, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE'VE INTERVIEWED THE, UH, UH, OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE'VE HAD WORKSHOP AFTER WORKSHOP. WE'VE, UH, UH, GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET, UH, ON A LINE ITEM BASIS. UH, AND I'M READY TO VOTE. MOTION'S BEEN MADE, UH, BY COMMISSIONER ROUND, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS BUDGET, SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, IT'S A TWO, TWO TIE. THE COUNTY JUDGE VOTES. AYE. SO BUDGET PASSES. NEXT THING WE HAVE IS TO, TO SET THE TAX RATE FOR THE 2007. JOHNNY. JOHNNY, YOU GOT THAT FIGURE FOR US ACTIVATE? YES. UH, GENERAL FUNDS IS 46 CENTS. BEL BRIDGE IS 6.8 AND DEBT SERVICE IS 3.42. 3.8 IS 6.8. DEBT DEBT, DEBT SERVICE, 3.42 CENTS PER HUNDRED. ALRIGHT. THAT'S WHAT IT'LL TAKE TO DO THIS BUDGET. AND WE'D ENTERTAIN THE MOTION IN TO SET THE TAX RATE AT 46 CENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND. 6.8 IN ROAD BRIDGE AND 3.42 IN SERVICE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ALL EMBARRA. THE AYE. I HAVE A, IS THERE NOT A SCRIPT THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW BY STATE LAW TWO YEARS AGO? I MEAN, THERE'S AN EXACT WORDING THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I MEAN, YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE A SIMPLE MOTION IN A SECOND. AND I DIDN'T BRING IT WITH ME. I JUST REMEMBERED WHAT WE DID LAST. THE MOTION CONSIST OF HOW ARE YOU LOOKING UP THAT BOARD? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY FROM PREVIOUS YEAR. ALL RIGHT. MOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. UH, YEAH, YEAH. I'M GOING ALL THAT'S NOT BE A PROPER MOTION. WE'RE GONNA, UH, LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR ANGIE'S GONNA GO. ANGIE'S [00:35:01] GO. LAURA'S PROBABLY GOT COMPUTER STILL. I I HAVE THE SPECIAL MEETING. WE HAD CLOSE . WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND. BUT WITH THOSE CAPITAL MURDER TRIALS COMING 700,000, OH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A CHOICE BETWEEN TRYING MURDERERS AND FILLING MORE POTHOLES, UM, I MIGHT, I MIGHT PREFER TRYING MURDERERS THAN FILLING POTHOLES IN INDIGENT DEFENSE IS REALLY CREP UP ON A, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, THREE YEARS AGO, I, I BOUGHT TO PUT $1 IN PUBLIC DEFENDER PROGRAM. SO WE CAN GIVE US TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. LET, LET ME AMEND THAT STATEMENT REAL QUICK. ALLEGED MURDERERS, BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION, UH, JERRY, YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AT THIS TIME SO THAT MOTIONS OFF THE TABLE. GET THE EXACT IT HAS TO BE. OKAY. NOW IT'S JUST, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS. ONE IS CLOSED AND ONE IS IN INTO DEFENSE. WE'VE GOT THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS COMING IN. WE'VE GOT AN OFFICE OF, UH, COURT ADMINISTRATION GIVING US THE AUTHORITY WITH A , THE MANDATE TO SET, TO HAVE A COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT. THE AVERAGE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT IN THIS COUNTY, IN THE STATE IS ABOUT 65%. OURS IS WAY BELOW THAT. COLLECTIONS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL SOLVE OUR PROBLEM. UH, PUBLIC DEFENDERS SHOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO, TO ROLL THAT BOAT. BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL SOLVE THE TWO ISSUES THAT'S CREATED US. YOU KNOW, WHEN I, THREE YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, WE HAD 400,000 IN INDIGENT DEFENSE AND SENATE BILL SEVEN CAME OUT FROM 2 0 3. WE HAD 400,000. THE NEXT YEAR WE SAID, WELL, WE'LL JUST RAISE IT TO 800,000. THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. WE RAISED IT TO 800,000 AND WE WENT OUT AND BORROWED THAT FOUR OR 500,000 TO GET US TO THE NEXT. AND IT'S, IT'S A SNOWBALL. WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING. AND THE ONLY THING I THINK WE SHOULD DO IS PUBLIC DEFENSE. UH, AND I THINK, UH, WE'VE GOT A GRANT OF 80 SOME THOUSAND. NOW IF THIS, IF THIS DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, YOU MAY SEE SOME LESS EMPLOYEES IN COFFMAN COUNTY. WELL, IT'S GONNA HELP THE BLEEDING SOME. BUT THERE WAS A TIME IN MY LIFE WHERE IF I COULD BUY, IF I COULD BUY A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, I WOULD BUY A HAYLOCK BECAUSE I HAULED HAY AND I HATED STACK. I MEAN, I HATED LOADING. YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER LOADED OR YOU STACKED. AND I LOVED TO STACK. I HATED LOADING AND I ALWAYS GOT STUCK LOADING HAY. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS JUST LIKE WHEN I WAS HAULING HAY FOR MY UNCLE AND I THOUGHT I WAS THROUGH FOR THE DAY. WELL NOW WE GET, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WE'RE HOT, SWEATY, WE WORK HARD AND, BUT YOU KNOW, MY UNCLE SAYS, WELL, DID Y'ALL GET ALL THAT HAY ON THE COX PLACE? AND WE WERE GOING, OH MY GOSH, . AND SO WE COULDN'T GO OUT. AND WHEN WE THOUGHT WE'D DONE FOR THE DAY, I THINK, I THINK WE'VE STILL GOT WORK WE NEED TO DO. AND IT'S NOT, AND IT'S BECAUSE THESE THINGS HAVE CROPPED UP. I MEAN, UH, WE'VE GOT A TRAGEDY THAT WE'VE GOTTA DEAL WITH. WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT THAT PUBLIC DEFENDER PROGRAM WILL BE SOME SUCCESSFUL AND TWO OR THREE MORE PEOPLE TO IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND REALLY START TAKING A LOT OF THAT LOAD OVER THERE. THIS COUNTY IS NOT THE ONLY COUNTY THAT HAS A, A SENATE BILL. SEVEN PROBABLY EVERY COUNTY. WELL, YOU GOTTA LOOK AT IT TOO. WHERE, UH, IS ALL OF THAT FROM SENATE BILL SEVEN? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE DA? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE JUDGES? IS IT BECAUSE OF ATTORNEYS? UH, A BIG PART OF IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURAL GROWTH. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO TIMES AS MUCH AS IT WAS, BUT OUR CASELOAD IS A LOT MORE THAN IT WAS TOO. SO IT'S NOT ALL LAID BACK ON ANYBODY'S DESK AS PART OF IT IS JUST NATURAL GROWTH. YES. I DON'T SEE IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL. THERE ARE, THERE'S ABOUT FIVE REASONS WE CAN [00:40:01] PUT ALL THOSE REASONS TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN REALLY GO INTO THAT MUCH. I DON'T THINK HE HAS MUCH. YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S BAD DOING FOR, FOR A DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO EVEN TALK ABOUT HOW HE'S GONNA PURSUE, UH, CRIMINAL CASES. OBJECT TO YOUR QUESTION. YOU AND I TALK ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THAT, BUT I DO LIKE ALL OR IF YOU JUDGE, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, CAN WE LET THIS GUY SPEAK? YES. YEAH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT UP. UM, WE HAVE HENRY TAF HENRY YOU WANT COME UP. UH, HE WANTS TO DISCUSS, UM, A SCHOOL BUS ISSUE AND A SIGN ISSUE. YOU LIVE ON MELODY LANE. WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? IN? IN FORNEY? YES SIR. OKAY, SIR, GO AHEAD. OH, WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS, IS IT POSSIBLE OFFICER SIR, YOU YES. THANK YOU. I GET TO THAT LETTER. KNOW TO READ IT, MY PROBLEM IS OVER ABUNDANCE BUSES, SCHOOL BUSES RUNNING ON MELODY LANE. UM, I'VE DEALT WITH THIS PROBLEM FOR ALL OF 2005 AND I TRIED TO GET AHOLD OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN, IN THE BUS ITSELF. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT WAS FROM THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT. AND I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS, UH, KYLE DAVIS WAS THE DIRECTOR WAS DIRECTING THE BUSES ON THE MELODY LANE. AND HER BOSS IS DWAYNE THOMPSON. SO I CONTACTED BOTH OF THEM TO KNOW AVAIL ON THE HOMICIDE. DWAYNE THOMPSON. I COMMUNICATED HIM WITH, UH, A DAILY BASIS TELLING HIM ABOUT HOW MANY BUSES WERE RUNNING ON THE SCREEN. ANOTHER DWAYNE, MYSELF, I WAS UP AS HIGH AS 58 BUSES PER DAY ON . THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A, THAT'S 14 FEET WIDE. AND UH, THESE BUSES, EIGHT BY TWO BUSES COMPLETE STOP. AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE RUNNING OVER THE SIDES OF THE BONE AND CRACKING AND UH, IT BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE. 'CAUSE IF THEY GET TOO FAR OVER, THEY'RE GONNA, ONE OF THESE DAYS I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS. BUT THEY COULD FLIP THAT BUS RIGHT OVER. THEY'VE BEEN SO LUCKY SO FAR. THE RAINS WE HAVEN'T HAD IS SAVED, I BELIEVE. AND UH, THIS IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO STOP, WHICH IS NOT THE BUSES THAT PICK UP THE CHILDREN. THERE'S LIKE ONLY FOUR BUSES THAT PICK UP CHILDREN ON LANE AND IT'S WOULD BE ABOUT EIGHT BUSES PER DAY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO STOP IS THE EXCESS BUSES RUNNING FROM SEVEN 40, WHICH IS THE BUS LOT THAT THEY HAVE THE BUS ON. THEY'RE USING MELODY LANE TO GET DOWN TO 5 48 AND THEN THEY TAKE A LEFT AND WALK TO 7 41, WHICH THEY HAVE ROADS. ROADS. IN THE YEARS PAST, THEY'VE ALWAYS USED F ROADS FOR BUSES. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UH, THAT I, MY KNOWLEDGE THERE ISN'T ANOTHER STREET IN THE CITY OR COUNTY THAT AS MUCH BUSLOAD AS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IS THERE ANOTHER WAY THEY CAN GO OTHER THAN THAT JUST SHORTER. THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO OUT IN THE THING. UH, NORMALLY SEVEN 40 OR 7 41. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING. AND UH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED. I EVEN GOT THE MILEAGE, WHICH I, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, COUNTED THE MILEAGE, NEVER SEE WHAT THEY WERE SAVING ANYTHING BY, BY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. AND SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT SAVING ANYTHING AT ALL TO MY KNOWLEDGE. AND IT COMES DOWN A STREET. IT WAS NICE, QUIET, NICE QUIET STREET. [00:45:01] THIS BUS ROUTE BETWEEN AT 6 25 IN THE MORNING AM 8:30 AM AND 2:45 PM TO 5:30 PM AND ALSO SEEING, RUNNING ON SATURDAY AND ONE OR TWO, ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. NOW THEY TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC 40 AT ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. GONNA AVOID THEM FROM COMING DOWN TO 7 41 AND SEVEN 40 AND THEN TO THE . SO I HAD MY STORY WITH UM, DU THOMPSON AND THEN I CREATED THIS LETTER AND I, I SUBMITTED IT TO, AND I ALSO SUBMITTED IT TO COMMISSIONER MR. IN 2005. THEN I WAS HAPPY TO SEE A, UH, THING PASS TO CALL, UH, GO FRONT. AND I PUT THAT SIGN, I SAID MYSELF, THAT'S GONNA HELP, THAT'S GONNA HELP OUT TREMENDOUSLY. THEY MAY SEE THE SIGN AND NOT WANT TO COME DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRAIN. THEN TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS SIGN HAS A SIGN ATTACHED TO IT UNDERNEATH IT. AND, UM, UNDER THE NO INSTRUCTION LINE, IT SAYS APPROVED BUS ROUTE. NOW I RESEARCHED THAT. WELL LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S, I RESEARCHED THAT AND I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING THAT SAYS THERE WAS A MEETING OR ANYTHING ABOUT TRUE BUS ROUTE IMPROVE MONTREAL. NO. THROUGH TRUCKING SIGN IS THERE. SO THIS HAS GOT ME A LITTLE BIT DISTURB. I'M TRYING TO FIGHT A BATTLE OR TRYING TO CREATE AND, AND HELP STOP THE SAFETY PROBLEM PLUS RUINING THE ROPES. WELL, WELL THE JUDGE, JUDGE IS GONE. I, I MEAN I'LL RESPOND. UM, AND SINCE IT'S THREE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS AREN'T REQUIRED TO RESPOND, BUT WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ON THE PHONE. I UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I I THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S PART IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A ROAD FOR SCHOOL BUSES TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD WAS JUST ASPHALTED. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER ROADS THAN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. UM, AND, BUT THE, UM, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL ISSUE. AGAIN, MY POSITION AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS THAT THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN PUT WHATEVER BUSES THEY SEE FIT ON WHATEVER COUNTY ROAD THEY NEED TO USE. AND YOU KNOW, AND I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT BEFORE THE REASON AND WHEN WE, AND THERE WAS NO SPECIAL MEETING WHEN WE, WHEN WE CLOSED THAT TO TRUCK TRAFFIC, I MADE IT CLEAR THAT I WASN'T TRYING TO CLOSE IT TO BUS TRAFFIC. AND, AND I DON'T THINK I, I DON'T THINK ON ANY OF OUR ROADS THAT ARE CLOSED TO THROUGH TRUCKS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF 'EM ARE CLOSED TO BUSES. BUT WE PUT THAT ADDITIONAL SIGN UP JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT BUSES ARE ALLOWED TO BE ON THAT ROAD. ON MELODY LANE. ON MELODY LANE. RIGHT. AND THEN MY REQUEST WAS TO HAVE THAT, HAVE THAT SIGN REMOVED. RIGHT. 'CAUSE IT HAD NO PURPOSE. I MEAN, IF WE'RE CLOSING SOMETHING TO A NO TRUE TRUCK ROUTE, WHY WOULD WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE BOTTOM THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD THROW THE BUSES THAT THEY, THEY CAN, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, SHOULD WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THEIR DISCRETION THAT THEY COME AND THEY, BECAUSE THEY HAD A HUGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT RUNNING DOWN THAT STREET. THE WEIGHT IS TREMENDOUS. AND IF YOU BEND DOWN THE STREET LATELY, YOU'RE SEE THAT ALL THAT ON THE SIDE IS BENT IN. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE BEST IN ACCOUNTING. IT WAS. AND I, MR. I I APPLAUD YOU FOR IT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT DEAL. AND I ALSO SAID THAT I DID NOT WANT IT RUINED BY BUSES OR HEAVY EQUIPMENT, WHICH WE RETAIN A LOT OF. AND UH, I KNOW YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. WELL, IT'S THE SCHOOL BUS, THE SCHOOL ISSUE I TAKE UP WITH THE SCHOOL I'VE BEEN TAKING, YOU KNOW, SINCE 2005 WITH DWAYNE MOUNTAIN AND HE'S TRIED TO CUT SOME DOWN. I KNOW I COULD FEEL IT. I'VE GONE FROM 58 BUSES PER DAY DOWN TO ABOUT 24 BUSES PER DAY. BUT I'M STILL NOT AT, MY GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE THEIR AVENUE BETWEEN USING MELODY LANE TO GET TO THE BUS LOT. AND THAT'S ALL THAT PURPOSE IS, IS TO GET TO THE BUS LOT. AND THEY'RE COMING DOWN THAT STREET AT 35, 40 MILES AN HOUR. LOT OF TIMES. THERE ARE A FEW THAT REALLY KEEP IT DOWN, [00:50:01] BUT YOU CAN FEEL THE VIBRATION IN THE HOUSES, THESE BUSES WHEN THEY COMING DOWN, WHEN THEY COMING DOWN ROAD. SO MY ANSWER, MY REQUEST IS, IS I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT SIGN REMOVED AND APPROVE BUS, NO TRUCKING SIGN. JUST LEAVE NO TRUCKING SIGN AS IT'S, I THINK THAT'LL HELP. IT'LL TAKE TIME NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN THAT SIGN. SO THEY'RE, I THINK NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO USE IT AGAIN. TO ME IT'S A TOTAL ABUSE OF THAT ROAD AND THAT COMMUNITY LANE AND I, AND ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD AND NOT APPRECIATE ALL THESE MUST STEM DOWN THAT ROAD. I THINK WHETHER THAT SIGN IS THERE OR NOT, THAT THAT SAME AMOUNT OF BUS TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE ON THAT ROAD. WHETHER, WHETHER THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SIGN IS THERE OR NOT. BUT IT WAS REDUCED. NOW I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF YOU BASICALLY WITH HIM ABOUT THIS. OH YEAH, WE, WE'VE TALKED FOR QUITE A, A FEW TIMES ON THE PHONE. YEAH, WE TRIED TO, WE TRIED TO. IS IS MR. THOMPSON, UH, WITH THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? UH, YES SIR. HE'S, UH, HE'S IN CHARGE. HE'S A FINANCE AND TRANSPORTATION. HE'S IN CHARGE OF ONE DIRECTOR. HE'S A VICE SUPERINTENDENT. WHAT'S HIS ATTITUDE TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY SIX WHAT? SIX TENTHS OF A MILE DIFFERENCE. WHAT'S HIS ATTITUDE TOWARD CHANGING, GOING FROM UH, MELODY LANE TO, UH, SEVEN 40? HAVE HE DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM? YEAH, I HAVE. AND UH, I HAVE NOT GOT A SATISFACTORY ANSWER FROM HIM. IT'S NOT JUST MILES'S. THERE'S TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH ALSO. SO IT'S TIME ALSO. WELL, IT, I DO TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON 7 41. 7 41 PUT UP ON 1641. RIGHT. AND 5 48, I MEAN THEY, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. BUT THERE WAS AN EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE AT THERE, THERE AT UH, 7 41 AND SEVEN 40. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CUTTING ACROSS ON MELODY. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET HUNG UP ON AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY WANT. A BUNCH OF BUSES HUNG UP AND WE HAVE ENOUGH OF A TRAFFIC PROBLEM ON THAT INTERSECTION. ANYWAY, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS THAT I KNOW OF KIDS THERE THAT THEY HAD TO GO BY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE MOW LANE BECAUSE 5 48 IS NOW BEFORE IT OPENED UP AND IT WAS IN END. THEY DID NOT, THEY THEY DID THAT FOR YEARS. IN FACT, I HAVE A WOOD GUARD RING AND I'VE HAD IT IN THERE FOR ALMOST A YEAR WHERE ON SEVEN 40 AND 7 41. I HAVE REQUESTED THAT THEY MOVE THE STOP LIONS BACK ABOUT EIGHT FEET FROM THE CORNER. THEY'VE GOT 'EM DIRECTLY DOWN THE CORNER AND VEHICLES COMING AROUND TRYING TO GET OUT AT SEVEN 40. HAVE A HARD TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'VE HAD THAT WORK ORDER WRITTEN D STOCK FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW. I HAVEN'T HAD MOW PAINT. I KNOW THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU CONCERN, I I BUCKET OF PAINT, I MYSELF. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND I CERTAINLY DO EXPECT YOUR RIGHT TO COME TO COMMISSIONER COURT AND TALK ABOUT IT. I DID DO, BECAUSE I GOT MY MIND. IT'S BEEN BOTHERING ME, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I JUST NEED TO GET IT OUT TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL. AND OF COURSE YOU GONNA MAKE THE DECISION. THE LETTER THAT I HAD SUBMITTED TO THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT, I'M CONSTANTLY STAYING IN TOUCH WITH THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT. I SIGN ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT TRUCK, TRUCK AND SIGN, BOTTOM SIGN. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THE UH, SPECIAL WORDING THAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT IS ON THE NOTICE THAT YOU PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER. UH, AMY'S GOING TO GO AND CHECK EXACTLY, BUT, UH, IT TALKS ABOUT THE, THE NOTICE THAT IS PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER HAS TO STRICTLY FOLLOW THE WORDING SET OUT IN TAX CODE SECTION 26.06. AND, AND WHICH WE DID. WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM, TWO OF THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER. UH, THEN IT SAYS THE UNION GOVERNOR BODY MUST MEET TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE NO LESS THAN THREE DAYS, NO MORE THAN 14 DAYS AFTER THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. THIS MEETING TO VOTE MUST TAKE PLACE IN A PUBLIC BUILDING INSIDE THE UNIT'S BOUNDARIES. THE UNIT MUST FOLLOW THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT WHEN ANNOUNCING THE MEETING, WHICH WE HAVE. AND UH, SO I QUESTION WHETHER THERE'S [00:55:01] ANY SPECIAL WORDING THAT HAS TO BE DONE AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING WHEN YOU SET THE TAX RATE, HOWEVER, TO MAKE SURE ANGIE'S GOING TO, UH, PULL LAST YEAR'S AND SEE EXACTLY HOW WHAT WE SAID. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND, UH, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING ON AGENDA EXCEPT, UH, LINE TRANSFER AND THE BILL. UH, I'LL READ YOU WHAT, UH, WE DID LAST YEAR AND ALL THE PREVIOUS YEARS. UH, IT SAYS MOTION TO ADOPT TAX RATE. THEY CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED THE MOTION TO ADOPT TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005, 2006 GENERAL FUND 0.4350 ROAD MAINTENANCE, 0.0650 AND DEBT SERVICE 0.377. MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER KEN SHANE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JERRY ROWDEN WHERE PHONE SAID MOTION WAS PUT TO VOTE AND MOTION CARRIED. THAT'S IT. AND THE NOTE, THE SPECIFIC WORDING THAT YOU HAVE TO COME BECAUSE IS WHAT GOES IN THE NEWSPAPER. IT'S NOT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. I, I VAGUELY REMEMBER SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WELL, WE, I MEAN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT LENGTH BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU KNOW THE BUDGET PRO DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEAR, THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, I VOTED TO RAISE TAXES. THAT THAT'S THE SCRIPT THAT YOU HAVE TO READ. DID YOU READ WHAT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER? WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. OKAY. YOU AND KENNETH VOTED AGAINST IT AND THREE OF US VOTED FOR THAT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER. AND AFTER THAT, THAT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER PRIOR TO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THIS IS WHAT WE DO IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ROW SAYS WAITS IN SINCE WE ABANDONED THAT OTHER MOTION AND HERE'S WHAT HEARING EXCEPT WE HAD IT FILLED IN TO VOTED FOREIGN AGAINST YOU MADE THE MOTION LAST TIME. I KNOW THAT'S A YEAR AGO. OKAY. WAS IT ON THE TAX RATE OR WAS IT ON THE BUDGET FILLED? THE SPECIFIC CORRECT SCRIPT WAS REQUIRED IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC SCRIPT OTHER THAN MAKING A MOTION AND PASSING ALL. OKAY, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. BUT AT THE COUNTIES AND JUDGES CONFERENCE, I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT LENGTH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SPECIFIC WORDING WHEN YOU MADE THE MOTION, BUT YOU KNOW, LOOK IT UP LATER. AND THERE WAS WHEN WE MADE THIS MOTION, BUT RIGHT NOW THE MOTION IS TO SET THE TAX RATE THAT THE GENERAL FUND 0.460 ROAD BRIDGE AT 0.0 6, 8 0 AND INS AT 0 0 3 4 2 COMMISSIONER ROUND MAKES THE MOTION COMMISSIONER SECONDS IT ON THE, AYE THOSE OPPOSED TWO, TWO TIE COUNTY JUDGE GOES. I DO WE HAVE ANY UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER? YES SIR. WE DO THIS BEING THE END OF FISCAL YEAR. THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE THAT ARE JUST ROUNDING AND CLEAN UP. UH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION I WOULD, THE ONES UNDER JUST CLEAN PURPOSES UNLESS Y'ALL WANNA HEAR THEM. I JUDGE'S OFFICE. UM, WE INCREASED RETIREMENT. $153 REDUCTION OF EXTRA HELP. GENERAL GOVERNMENT INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLIES. 2,600 COMMUNICATIONS 8,345 ATTORNEY FEES AND COURT COSTS 569, UH, WITH REDUCTIONS TO HEALTH INSURANCE. 19 677 POSTAGE 1,852, UH, JUDGE'S EXPENSE, 3,125 COMMISSIONER COURT TRANSPORT 2000, UH, FOR PRECINCT TWO AND 1,375 FOR PRECINCT THREE VOTERS. REGISTRATION, UH, INCREASED REGISTRAR'S SALARY COSTS SEVEN $43. DEDUCTION [01:00:01] OF COMPUTER AIDS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INCREASED INVESTIGATOR SALARY. 3024 DEDUCTION IN ASSISTANT DA'S SALARY, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT. INCREASED AUTOPSY OF POSTMORTEM $16,400. REDUCTION OF TRANSFERS. UH, ELECTION EXPENSE. INCREASED VOTING EQUIPMENT. $769 FOR REDUCTION IN MISCELLANEOUS, UH, TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR. INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE AND NEW EQUIPMENT. 1004 73 WITH REDUCTION IN, UH, DEPUTIES COSTS, UH, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. INCREASED JANITORIAL SUPPLIES. $880 POSTAGE METER $3,007. UTILITIES OF KAUFMAN $313 IN PEST CONTROL. $236 WITH REDUCTION IN CUSTODIAN COSTS. 3006 15 AND UTILITIES FOR KEMP 821 PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. INCREASED SOCIAL SECURITY COSTS. ONE $43 REDUCTION OF EXTRA HELP. FIRE MARSHAL INCREASED MILEAGE MILL AND LODGING. $220 WITH REDUCTION IN GAS AND OIL. CONSTABLE PRECINCT. TWO. INCREASED RETIREMENT COSTS. $232. REDUCTION OF OFFICE SUPPLIES. UH, CONSTABLE PRECINCT. FOUR. INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE AND NEW EQUIPMENT. $914 WITH DEDUCTION IN, UH, MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING. SHERIFF'S FUND INCREASED, UH, GAS AND OIL 2002 FOUR SIX WITH REDUCTION IN MILE JAILS AND LO JAIL FUND INCREASED COMMUNICATION SALARY 8,900 MEDICAL OFFICER COST 3020 $3 WITH PRODUCTION IN TAYLOR SALS 11,924 DPS INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS. $1,018 IN OFFICE FURNITURE 825 WITH REDUCTION IN COMPUTER UPGRADE OF $1,018 IN REDUCTION IN OFFICE SUPPLIES OF 825 CHARITY'S FOREIGN RELIEF. INCREASED STATEMENT OF FAX 8,000 1 66 WITH PRODUCTION OF DEFENSE COSTS. COMPUTER AREA, INCREASED SOFTWARE ROUTE 3001 NINE TWO WITH REDUCTION OF TRANSFERS PROB DATE AND INCREASED ATTORNEY FEES. 1800 WITH REDUCTION IN TRANSFERS. DAS AT FORFEITURE ACCOUNT. INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 2,700 WITH REDUCTION IN INFORMANT COSTS. CHILD SHELTER INCREASED GROCERIES. $941 IN COMMUNICATIONS. 4 36 WITH REDUCTION IN RETIREMENT COSTS. 1003 77 GOLDEN BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE. INCREASED EXTRA HELP 2001 18 WITH PRODUCTION IN SALARY. COST OF 9 81. SOCIAL SECURITY RATE 62. RETIREMENT OF 2 75 GOLDEN BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE. INCREASED EXTRA HELP. 1003 29 WITH PRODUCTION IN GAS AND OIL. COFFMAN COUNTY LIBRARY. INCREASED BOOKS 2008 85 WITH PRODUCTION AND EXTRA HELP. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE, UH, A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE RECEIPT OF CONSTRUCTION FUNDS AND REIMBURSEMENT OF TO THE GENERAL FUND OF 230,000 4 68. Y'ALL PREFER TO LINE OUT A TRANSFER OF REQUEST? WE'LL, A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROWING, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED. I GUESS WE HAVE A COUPLE BILLS WE NEED TO CONSIDER. YES, SIR. THIS WAY. , [01:05:10] WE MET ACROSS, I WENT TO THE DOCTOR ALLERGY INFECTION. CONTAGIOUS. YOU KNOW, UNTIL ABOUT TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEM. PROBLEM. WE DIDN'T STAY SATURDAY MORNING FOR THE RAIN TO GET SPRINKLER. WE ENDED UP GETTING A WE DID. WE GOT, WE WAITED UNTIL THAT, WELL, I GOT HOME AND HAD COUSINS FROM SNYDER AND, AND OF COURSE HER MAMA CA AND STARTED RAINING JUST AFTER I GOT THERE. I TOLD THEM, Y'ALL RIGHT WITH Y'ALL, IF WE TRY TO GET THAT TRAVELING WALL THROUGH HERE NEXT YEAR, WE COUNTY NEED TO PROVE THAT. UH, PROBABLY A GOOD LAST YEAR WE DO. I THINK WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT SOME ROCK DOWN FOR PARKING SOMEWHERE. I THINK HAVING PICTURE THIS WHERE 20 50,000 PEOPLE. YEAH. AND UH, THEY KEEP SOMEONE 10 VOLUNTEER MIDNIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN SOME OF THE GUYS SHOW UP. THEN WE CAN UH, SOME SOME WILL COME IN AND JUST SAY THERE, PICK I SAY A WORD IN IT. FUNNY HOW THAT PICTURE OF THE WALL IN YOUR OFFICE TO THAT RETIRE THE RETIREMENT PLAN. NO CHANGES. STUDENT WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WORE OKAY. POW. WELL THEY, THEY, WELL I GUESS THEY DID FIND HIM BECAUSE THEY, THEY DETERMINED HE HAD BEEN KILLED IN ACTION. DON'T HAVE. WE HAVE. SO I DIDN'T HAVE MINUTES. I DON'T EVEN HAVE WE APPROVED YET LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR WE HOPEFULLY THEY'LL, WELL MY, MY [01:10:01] COUSIN FROM SNY OR MY LAST COUSIN FROM SNYDER WAS A BUILDING SPEAKER IN SNYDER. AND WHEN KATRINA HIT, HE WENT AHEAD AND TOOK RETIREMENT AND WENT TO WORK AS AN INSURANCE ADJUST IN THE, AND UM, HE SAID HE GOT TO ST. CHARLES, LOUISIANA AND A POLICEMAN SAID, DO YOU HAVE A GUN? NO. HE SAID, GO GET MY . HE SAID, HERE'S, HERE'S MY CARD ABOUT IT. JUST SHOW HIM MY CARD. THAT NUMBER, THAT NUMBER. I CAN DO IT. IT'S GONNA STRETCH ME RIGHT NOW. SO KATRINA GUNS, NO. YEAH. BUMPED OFF OFF THE DEAL. NOW I DID SEE WHERE, WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT THAT WHEN THEIR GOVERNMENT SUBSISTENCE RUNS OUT, THEY'RE GONNA CRIME. I DID SEE THAT. WE PUT THEM ON THE STRAIGHTENED FOR A LITTLE WHILE OFF THE, WELL I TRYING HEAR YOU. OH NO. YEAH, THAT'S IN END OF NOVEMBER. WE GOT LET INTO THE LAST CALL. YOU CALL MARY AND TELL HER I FOUND IT WELL LATER THIS MONTH, PASO. YEAH. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS, UH, WE'VE GOT CITY MANAGERS PROBABLY MAYOR, I KNOW SOME OF THE CITIES ARE BRINGING THEIR ENGINEERS. PLUS, YOU KNOW, WAS BRINGING ALL PEOPLE SO YOU CAN BE THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I HAVE A CONFLICT OR NOT, BUT THEY'RE PAYING THE BILLS. YOU TO CHANGE THE, THE, IT'S ALL THE UP THERE. NO WAY CAN WE CHANGE. I WAS GONNA TEASE HER AND TELL HER I TRI THAT PAPERWORK AND IT'S ALL OVER THE FLOOR. BUT I DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT. I'M LISTENING TO LAST YEAR. OH, OH, YOU'RE LISTENING TO LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR. YOU'RE ON LAURA'S COMPUTER. LUCKY YOU GUYS MISSED AJ [01:15:01] THIS YEAR. I JUST TOLD KIM, I SAID I'M SURPRISED AJ JUST NOW GOT HERE. THAT'S LAST YEAR'S, HUH? YEAH. I WAS TRYING TO LISTEN IF THE WORDING WAS, AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH IRONY THAT HE, AND I THINK HE GAVE HIM IS HE DOING BETTER BACKWARDS? MR. PAUL? MR. SAYS STATE OF BILLS AND COMMISSIONER SHANE SAYS OKAY WITH HIM. ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UH, KIM, REMIND US OF THE MEETING WITH CO TONIGHT AT, UH, SUPPORT OUNCE MATERIAL AT 20 AT SEVEN. SEVEN O'CLOCK SEVEN. AND YOU'RE GONNA SERVE, UH, COFFEE AND WHATEVER. . YEAH. I GOTTA GO FIX THE COFFEE, WON'T YOU? YOU'LL BE VERY POPULAR PERSON. COFFEE POTS. LEAKY. WELL, I CAN FIX IT. . ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'LL, UH, SEE ALL NEXT WEEKEND. UH, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN ADUR. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL FAVOR. I PAID BILLS AND JURY. SECOND. LET'S GO. SOMETHING. THE MOTION CARRIES. HOW FAR ARE YOU OFF? IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT. HOW TALKING RIGHT NOW AJ JUST FINISHED. AND HOWARD PHONE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.