* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] WELL, AN HONOR OF YOUR BIRTHDAY, WOULD YOU OPEN US UP THIS MORNING? HEAVEN, THE FATHER, WE THINK THEY FEEL THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. PLEASE LOOK DOWN AND UPON US AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM TO CONCLUDE THAT BUSINESS IN A, IN A CHRISTIAN-LIKE MANNER. UH, WE'D LIKE TO SAY A WORD OF, UH, PLEASE LOOK DOWN ON THE VINCENT MITCHELL FAMILY AS, UH, THEY GO THROUGH THEIR TRAGEDY THIS MORNING. LOOK WITH FAVOR ON THEIR TROOPS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY, WHICH HAS BEEN A REALLY, REALLY ROUGH MONTH FOR THEM. PRIESTS BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ACT IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. AMEN. VINCENT MITCHELL'S WIFE PASSED AWAY THIS MORNING. I, Y'ALL KNOW, I SWEAR, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDERGONE INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONORABLE THE TEXAS FLAG, ALLEGED ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE. A AYE. MOTION CARRIES. I'M GOING TO, UM, JUMP TO THE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BYPASS JOHNNY RIGHT NOW, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER DECLARING, UH, NOVEMBER AS THE OFFICIAL HOME CARE MONTH. AND WE HAVE WITH US THIS MORNING MS. DONNA ROWDEN WITH BRIDGEWAY. UH, AND, UH, THAT'S DONNIE. ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT IT? UH, WE, WE EVEN HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, AND I DUNNO OF ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER THAT'S GONNA OBJECT TO IT, SO, NO, WE THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT HONOR. UH, HOME HEALTH AND HOSPICE, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS AND I TRY OFTEN TO TALK ABOUT IT WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT TEARS COMING TO MY EYES, BUT IT'S A, A DEAR, IT'S A, UH, PROGRAMS BOTH OF 'EM. HOME CARE AND HOSPICE ARE, UH, PREDOMINANTLY FOR OUR ELDERLY AND THEIR CAREGIVERS. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY AN UNDERSERVED AND UNDERUSED PROGRAM THAT IS BASICALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT FREE, UH, THROUGH THE MEDICARE PROGRAM. UM, MY MISSION IS TO TRY TO GET IT OUT THERE SO WE CAN HELP NOT ONLY THE CAREGIVERS AND THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT OFTEN STRUGGLE. 'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO WORK, YOU KNOW, MOST EVERY DAY, MOST OF US DO. AND SO IT'S, AND, AND TO FOCUS ON HELPING THEM GET BETTER AND HELPING THEIR LOVED ONES GET BETTER. THE HOSPICE PROGRAM'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. UM, IT'S A MISSION PROBABLY TO HAVE DEATH WITH DIGNITY THAT WE ALL DESERVE. AND, AND SO THOSE TWO PROGRAMS ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. AND I THINK THAT, UH, ANYBODY THAT CAN, THAT CAN ACTUALLY, UH, GET OUT THERE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SPREAD THE WORD, YOU KNOW, SATURATE THE AREA AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE DO THANK YOU, UH, FOR HONORING, UH, THOSE TWO PROGRAMS SO MUCH. OKAY, I'D LIKE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION THAT ACROSS THIS GREAT STATE, MANY TEXAS MAKE THE DECISION TO SEEK PROFESSIONAL IN-HOME CARE FOR DISABLED, ELDERLY, AND CHRONICALLY ILL FAMILY MEMBERS AND LOVED ONES HOME CARE PROVIDERS OFFER ASSISTANCE WITH DAILY ACTIVITIES AND PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL CARE BY PROVIDING THE WARMTH AND COMFORT OF THE HOME ENVIRONMENT AND PROFESSIONAL CARE OF THE HOSPITAL SETTING. HOME CARE OFFERS MANY TEXANS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS WHILE RECEIVING THE CARE THEY NEED. THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF HOME CARE INCLUDES MORE THAN 600 LICENSED HOME AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT SERVICES AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE HOME CARE AND OTHER COMMUNITY SUPPORT SERVICES. THE SUPPORT NETWORK FORMED BY THIS DEDICATED GROUP OF HOME CARE PROFESSIONALS CONTINUES TO PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN HEALTHCARE DELIVERY TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE AND TO PROMOTE THE AVAILABILITY AND ADVANTAGES. HOME CARE DAHC AND HOME CARE PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF , DESIGNATED NOVEMBER AS A MONTH OF AWARENESS AT THIS TIME. WE ENCOURAGE ALL TEXAS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOME CARE OPTIONS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF HOME CARE PROVIDERS. THEIR WORK HELPS ENSURE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FROM ANY TEXANS AND THEIR LOVED ONES. THEREFORE, KAUFFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER, 2006 AS HOME CARE MONTH IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, [00:05:01] AND URGES THE APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION THEREOF. AND I TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DEN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIED MAY JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF I COULD GET A WALKER AND AN OXYGEN TANK. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. YOU MAY YOUR ELIGIBLE GO TO JUDGE IF I COULD, TALKING ABOUT SPREADING THE WORD. IF I COULD JUST LEAVE THESE AND I'D LIKE FOR, THIS IS A, WE ARE PROMOTING THIS AND WE'RE HAVING A HEALTH FAIR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE SECOND, UH, THERE IN KEMP, IT'S RIDGEWAY IS ACTUALLY SPONSORING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ABOUT 15 VENDORS THAT ARE GONNA BE PRESENT. AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE, THE TESTING AND STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT FOR. AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR OUR SENIORS, IT'S FOR THE, LIKE I SAID, THE CAREGIVERS AND PEOPLE THAT NEED THAT INFORMATION. YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IS GONNA HAVE SURGERY COME UP HERE SOON AND THEY NEED HOME CARE. SO I'LL LEAVE THOSE FLYERS WITH YOU AND, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. AND WHOEVER'S BIRTHDAY IT IS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE EXTRA ONE OF THOSE SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK. OH, RAY, WOULD YOU GO CATCH DONNA AND BRING HER BACK HERE PLEASE? NOW, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT THIS IS A QUESTION HAD TRY TO ANSWER EPTEMBER WAS NOT A VERY GOOD MONTH. WE PASSED OUR CASH CRUNCH NOW TO COME IN FAST. DID HE SAY HER LAST NAME WAS RILEY? DID HE SAY HER NAME WAS LAST? HER LAST NAME WAS RA. YEAH, IT'S R-A-W-D-O-N. OH, OKAY. WELL, I WAS KIND OF WONDERING BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T KNOW BIRTHDAY. THAT'S RIGHT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I TELL Y'ALL RECEIVE FOUR IS THAT LOUD. WHEN TALK, YOU CAN TALK. I'LL RECEIVED $4,000 NOW. JUST BRINGING THE VIETNAM WALL TO CALL THE COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WILL TWO AND SEE. GAVE TWO TODAY. SO WE'RE GREAT. WE'RE SET UP COMING LAST WEEKEND IN APRIL. WE'LL BE HERE FROM, UH, I HOPE TO OPEN THURSDAY TO 26TH. THINK NOON. APRIL. APRIL, IT'LL BE OPEN THROUGH, THROUGH MIDNIGHT OR SO SUDDEN. AND ALSO THE SIZE, THE, THE WALL ITSELF, WHICH IS A LARGE REPLIC CUT IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY, FOUR FIFTHS, RIGHT SIZE, LIKE THREE OR THREE FEET LONG, EIGHT FEET TALL. UM, ALSO GONNA HAVE SOME TRIBUTES IN THESE KIDS THERE. THEY'RE BRINGING FOR, UH, NINE 11 VICTIMS. AND ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT IN IRAQ. QUITE A, I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN BROOK, ILLINOIS, ST. HERE, NORTH DAKOTA. DAKOTA HEALTH BE HAPPY WITH. I'D ENTERTAIN NUMBER ONE TO, UH, EXCEPT FOR FILING THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER. SO, AYE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DELLER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AND I'D, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLLOWING OF THE QUARTERLY REPORT. SO, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL ON THE FAVOR. THE AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIES QUARTERLY REPORT. SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE ALL ON THE THURSDAY. AYE. A MOTION CARRIES, [00:11:00] JUST GO THROUGH AND SIGN IT WHERE YOUR NAME IS. THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM THERE. UH, NEXT ITEM DISCUSSING, CONSIDER RE SENDING APPOINTMENTS TO OF LEON F ROD TO BOARD EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, AND THAT THERE IS NO OPENING ON BOARD AT THIS TIME. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD. ALL FAVOR, AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION OF C REAPPOINTED JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN AS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. IF YOU WANT THAT JOB. CHAIRMAN. BUDGET COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, CHAIRMAN OF THE SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. UH, LOCKED IN ON THAT ONE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TELLER. CAN WE APPROPRIATE MONEY FOR A NEW OUIJA BOARD? . ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER RENEWING THE MEMBERSHIP IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND PAYING ANNUAL DUE. I RECOMMEND WE DO THAT. A MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, ER. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN COURTESY. AYE. AND FOR THE PRESS THAT VIEWS 957, WE NEED TO KNOW. ALL IN FAVOR. A, A MOTION CARRIES. NEXT DISCUSSION. CONSIDER, UH, RENEWING OUR MEMBERSHIP IN THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF THE COUNTIES. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER D. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND THAT ANNUAL FEE IS $1,286. NEXT WE HAVE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR. OKAY. UH, WE'VE GOT ABOUT ANOTHER 10 MINUTES. UH, JUDGE NOVELL'S ON THE BENCH AND I TOLD HER WE'D TAKE IT UP ABOUT 10 TILL, SO LET'S SKIP THAT TILL SHE COMES IN. UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. UH, LAST ITEM FOR JUST ONE SECOND. I GOT A COMMENT. JERRY AND I GOT TO GO TO THE NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS OF NAPCO AND WE WAS UP IN WASHINGTON, DC LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . I MEAN, IT WAS PAST SPRING WITH OUR MEETING WITH. THEY REALLY DID A GOOD JOB WITH US. WELL, YOU FIGURED, SEE, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IS OUR VOICE IN AUSTIN. YEAH. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IS OUR VOICE IN WASHINGTON DC IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. AND THEY PUT US WELL, WELL THEN THAT'S WORTH IT. . NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BARGAIN ON BOTH OF THOSE. AND IF YOU FIGURE OUT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENT THAT ON FEE, UH, JUST IN THE LAST FEW YEARS LONG, WE'VE GOTTEN OVER 1.5 MILLION IN GRANTS THAT CAME THROUGH THERE. YEAH. SO NOW TECHNICALLY IT SHOULD BE N-A-C-O-A-P, NAC OAP, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND PARISHES. THAT'S RIGHT. PARISHES. YOU OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HERE MAY NOT KNOW COMMISSIONERS IN LOUISIANA ARE CALLED POLICE JURORS. REALLY? POLICE JURORS. YEAH. AND IT, IT IS REAL FUNNY WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE WENT TO THE NECO CONFERENCE IN LOUISIANA, WE WERE SURROUNDED BY POLICE JUROR . THEY WERE, UH, [00:15:01] LET'S SEE. JUDGE, YOU WANT ME TO DO THE HARSH STUFF? WELL, LET'S, LET'S GET, LET'S GET JIM SOME MORE TELEPHONE SERVICE DOWN THERE. THIS ACTUALLY IS, WE'RE GETTING ELECTRIC DOWN HERE NOW. ELECTRIC ELECTRICITY, OUR CANDLES OUT HERE VERY SHORTLY. JIM SAYS BACK TO WHERE, WHERE IS IT GOING? IT'S A ECO STATION. THAT CONVENIENCE STATION. OH, THAT'S ALL. THEY HAD TO RUN A COUPLE EXTRA LINES, SETS AND POLLS. UH, THE TOTAL COST WAS GONNA BE, UH, 1,148. AND WHEN I TALKED TO 'EM, THEY SAID, WELL, MEANS IT'S A SERVICE TO THE COUNTY WILL DO IT AT NO COST. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE ACCEPT THE DONATION OF $1,148 AND 18 CENTS. I'LL SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. NOW JERRY, YOU HAVE TWO REPORTS THAT YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF? YES, WE DO. THE WEEK ENDING 10 0 5 AND 10 12. JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THESE TWO REPORTS FROM, UH, DALLAS CRAFT, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, YOU DO THE LINE ON TRANSFERS WHILE WE COMING. MUST HAVE BEEN THAT NUMBER THAT WAS ON THIS CASE. WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY, LET'S TAKE THE ADDENDUM ITEM. I'VE FORGOTTEN IT WAS ATTACHED HERE. UH, DISCUSSING CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON CHANGES TO RETIREE BENEFITS THROUGH COUNTY CHOICE SILVER. UM, JOHNNY, UH, OKAY. LIKE FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU RETIRE WITH EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE, WE PAY YOUR INSURANCE TO TERMS SUPPLY PAY, MEDICARE TAX OVER. BUT WE HAVE A FUND THROUGH TAG THAT ALLOWS OUR RETIRE AGENCIES TO GET ADDITIONAL INSURANCE AT THEIR OWN COST TO COVER MOST BASIC COSTS. THE PHARMACY OR MEDICAL HAVE FOREVER. YES. WELL, AS LONG AS TAX THAT'S FOR YOU. THAT'S WHERE FOR ME, THAT'S THE REASON I CHANGE IS SO QUICKLY IS THAT MUCH CHANGE WERE MADE IN MEDICARE, IN WASHINGTON AND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES THE COMPANY USING CALLED MONUMENTAL HEALTH THINK WAS. AND THEY'RE SAYING IF IT'S A PROBLEM, BILLING A SERVICE, WHICH WE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT INVOLVED. THEY CHANGED AETNA AND IT'S KIND ALL BE DONE BY CERTAIN TIME. SO, AND THEY HAVE FOUR PLANS, A HIGH PLAN, THEY INSURANCE FROM THE BASIC PLAN AND THEN ONE WITH THE PHARMACY. UH, THE HIGH PLAN HAS A NO DEDUCTIBLE. IT, UH, HAS A HIGHER LOWER COPAY. JUST IT'S A GOOD PLAN. YOU COST ON $178 A MONTH IF THEY TAKE THE PHARMACY AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO GET THEM TO CHARGE THE PHARMACY OR NOT. SO ONE SUGGEST WE, WE TAKE THE HIGH PLAN WITH THE OPTIONAL PHARMACY AND THEY'LL BE CONTACTED BY THE 3RD OF NOVEMBER AND IT'S THEIR CHOICE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TO DO IT, NOT DO IT ALL. AND THIS IS PAID BY THEM, NOT THE COUNTY. THAT'S RIGHT. WE FACT, IT'S, IT'S KIND KIND OF A FUNNY SITUATION. I GOTTA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT. BUT IF, IF I, IF IT WERE ME, THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT I HAPPEN AND UH, WE'LL ALL BE HERE. SO ONE TIME. BUT, UH, ANYWAY. WELL, I SUGGEST WE DO THE, TAKE A HIGH PLAN WITH THE OPTIONAL PHARMACY OFFICER AND SOMEONE MAKE THAT MOTION. JIM, ER WILL AND JIMMY, UH, NO, THE ELDER AND THE ELDER SENIOR ROUND WILL ALSO, UH, SECOND IT ON THURSDAY. AYE, MOTION CARRIES. I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT THURSDAY, UH, THE, ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, WE DEFINITELY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE HEALTH AND BENEFITS BOARD AND THAT AND RATIFIED THE CONTRACT WITH SIR. UH, OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR I FOR THAT MOTION CARRIED, JUDGE. YES, SIR. UH, HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TUESDAY. NO, I THINK IT'S JERRY'S BIRTHDAY. I HEAR HE'S 40 TODAY. I'M 40. SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE YOUNGER THAN ME. . RIGHT? EXACTLY. YEARS. OKAY. HAR. OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUEST, UH, REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR TRANSLATOR FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY COURT LAW. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A, IT'S FROM MY DEPARTMENT. WHAT I, WHAT I WAS BRINGING TO YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT IS BECAUSE, AND EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT, OF THE INCREASE THAT SO MANY DEFENDANTS SPEAKING SPANISH ONLY THAT WE HAVE HAD TO GIVE TRANSLATOR. WE HAD [00:20:01] HAD, AT ONE POINT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD A TRANSLATOR AND MS. GUZMAN'S NO LONGER WITH US. AND THEN WE'VE GOT MARIA UPSTAIRS IN THE CLERK IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE. I KNOW MS. HUGHES HAS TRANSLATOR, BUT SHE'S WORKING WITH THEM IN COLLECTION. SO WHAT'S HAD TO HAPPEN IS WE ARE PAYING FOR THE EXPENSE OF A TRANSLATOR. AND HE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS RECOMMENDED AND HE'S REASONABLE, HE'S $75 AN HOUR. SO ONE DAY I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING ABOUT IT AND I THOUGHT, I NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE THAT CAN DO THIS. AND, AND WHAT I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IS I, I TRY TO KEEP, I'VE HAD PEOPLE IN THAT SECOND POSITION AS THE ASSISTANT, UH, UH, COURT COORDINATOR AND THAT, AND I'VE GOT, IT'S ON MY, UM, MY ITEM AT 1232 AT 20,700. AND I WAS JUST SAYING THAT NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TO CHANGE THE SALARY, BUT IF I CAN FIND A PERSON THAT SPEAKS SPANISH THAT WE CAN GET CERTIFIED, WHEN I PUT THE, PUT IT TO A PIECE OF PAPER IN THE NUMBERS, IF WE COULD OFFER THAT POSITION AT A LITTLE MORE AND USE THAT PERSON FOR ME, MAYBE PERHAPS FOR THE NEW COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGE, MAYBE UPSTAIRS TO HELP OUT. NOW I WOULD BE HONEST, I WANT HER TO BE MY STAFF AND WHEN SHE'S NOT TRANSLATING TO BE HELPING ANGELA, BUT I WAS JUST SAYING THAT I THINK WE COULD GET A BILINGUAL PERSON IF WE MADE THAT AT 25 7. NOW, IF THEY NOT BILINGUAL, IT'S STILL THE SAME SALARY BECAUSE WHEN I FIGURED IT OUT, WHAT HE'S CHARGING US IS $75 AN HOUR AND HE COMES ONCE A WEEK ON THURSDAY AT $75 AN HOUR. AND WE JUST, YOU KNOW, FIGURED IT OUT. IT'S ROUGHLY $200 TO 2 25 A WEEK. I HAVE THAT DOCKET EVERY WEEK. IT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH. IF WE, YOU KNOW, $10,000 A YEAR, WE'D SAVE FOUR OR $5,000 AND WE COULD USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS. I CAN'T USE HER FOR A TRIAL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TIE SOMEBODY UP THAT LONG. BUT YOU COULD SAVE MONEY ON THAT TRANSLATOR IF I COULD FIND THAT PERSON. BUT I CAN'T OFFER THAT POSITION WITHOUT THE APPROVAL TO HAVE IT BUMPED UP. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS HERE ABOUT. AND THE NEW COUNTY COURT LAW THAT COST IS TO GET A HOME CERTAINLY ALMOST DONE. OR PERHAPS. I MEAN, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. AND I WOULD THINK THAT IT'D BE GOOD. AND I HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT IT. BUT IF HE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WANTED TO HAVE, UM, I MEAN HE MIGHT WANT LOOK FOR THE SAME PERSON IN A SIMILAR SITUATION, BUT IF HE WANTED TO HAVE HIS DOCKET SAY ON WEDNESDAY, I WOULDN'T PRESUME AND TELL HIM WHEN TO DO IT. MY PERSON COULD FLIP AND IF HE HAD SOMEBODY IN HIS OFFICE, THEY COULD COME DOWN THERE. BUT I THINK THAT WITH THAT SKILL AND WITH THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT ASK THEM TO DO OTHER THINGS OF ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, THAT WE'D HAVE TO OFFER THEM A LITTLE MORE. AND I CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER 5,000 BECAUSE IT WAS FLOATING IN MY HEAD. THAT'S WHAT MS. GUZMAN WAS GETTING TO TRANSLATE. YOU MAY BE INCORRECT ABOUT THAT NUMBER. AND SO I WAS JUST ASKING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL REQUEST. IF I COULD FIND A BILINGUAL ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR TO OFFER THE SALARY AT 25 7, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE ABOUT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. DAVID'S GONNA NEED SOMEBODY IN THERE. I THAT SHE CAN OR HE, WHOEVER. MM-HMM . CAN USED OTHER TIMES. I WELL IT'S JUST A REAL, IT, I MEAN IT'S WHERE WE ARE. I MEAN, I MEAN Y'ALL KNOW THAT IN YOUR OFFICES AND YOUR, THAT WE NEED PEOPLE THAT CAN SPEAK SPANISH AND UH, YEAH, THERE ARE TIMES, JUST ON A DAILY BASIS, SOMETIMES WE COULD USE SOMEONE. SURE. AND I HAVE FOUND AS, AS SWEET AS PEOPLE ARE AND, AND THEY DON'T MIND COMING AND HELPING THAT WE ARE DISRUPTIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE'S OFFICE. UH, MS. FEATHERSTONE WILL HAVE MARIA UPSTAIRS WORKING AND HELPING HER OWN PEOPLE. LAURA HAVE SOMEBODY IN HER OFFICE, BUT THEY'RE HELPING OTHER PEOPLE. 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE TRANSLATOR TAKEN. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A PERSON THAT YOU FLOW TO THE COURT AROUND THE COURT TO BE SOMEBODY. IF JUDGE JEN NEEDED SOMETHING, I WOULD SAY, BUT I DON'T EVEN WANNA REALLY OFFER 'EM UP TO THE CLERKS TOO MUCH BECAUSE THEY HAVE PEOPLE. BUT THE COURTS DON'T HAVE ANYBODY. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND YET? YES. THAT'S WHY I'M OKAY IN MY MIND, BUT IT'S NOT, I DON'T WANT TO PUT A NAME BECAUSE OKAY. WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A BUDGET IN THE 25 SEVENTH? YEAH. I WAS ONLY GONNA OFFER FIVE MORE IF I COULD FIND THAT. NOW AGAIN, IF I CAN, I FEEL IT, THEN IT'S ALREADY IN MY BUDGET FOR THAT 27. AND I I UNDERSTAND THAT CAVEAT THAT IT'S FOR A BILINGUAL OKAY. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T OFFER IT FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE'S ASSISTANT WOULD NOT HAVE THAT SKILL AND THEY'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE CERTIFIED. I I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH LAID OUT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA SAVE US SOME MONEY TO DO IT. I, WELL, THAT WAS MY THINKING AND IT WOULD BE MORE TIME EFFICIENT. MR. GLENDO IS VERY GOOD AT GETTING HERE, BUT HE RUNS INTO TRAFFIC IN DALLAS. WE'RE WAITING ON HIM. IF, UH, PEOPLE COME IN LATE AND THEY WANT HIM TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING, HE'S GONE BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET HIM IN, IN HIS TWO HOUR MINIMUM OF $150. BUT A LOT OF TIMES HE SPILLS OUT AFTERNOON. THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU LEARNED IN LAW SCHOOL. DON'T WANT TO BE QUIET AND MAKE WHEN YOU GET YOUR RULING MOTION. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER [00:25:01] ROBIN. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. MOTION. MOTION. CARRIE. THANK YOU JUDGE. SHE'S EVER BEEN AROUND HER MUCH. SHE KNOWS SHE LOVES THE POWER. SHE, SHE KEPT ON IF WE HAD BETTER . UH, NOW LET'S TRY ANY LINE ITEMS WE MIGHT HAVE. DON'T WE HAVE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER? BUT I DO HAVE A, A BUDGET CHANGE AND IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE COUNTY PER SE, BUT IN THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND, WE NEED TO SET UP A BUDGET OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. UH, THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE COLLECTED THROUGH, UH, COURT COLLECTIONS AND THEN USED FOR TECHNOLOGY IN THE JPS OFFICES. OH YEAH. THAT'S A FEE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE CASES. YEAH. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL OPPOSED THE I MOTION CARRIES. UH, WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANY, LET'S SEE. YOU WANT WAIT, GO THROUGH THESE AND GET, OKAY. KENNETH, YOU UH, DO YOU HAVE CINTAS FOR YOUR UNIFORM? YES. YOU WANT I NEED A NUMBER DISTURBED WITH MARTIN. I'M SORRY. JIM WANTS YOU TO CALL VICKY. I MEAN, I, I I'M GONNA ASK WHOSE PHONE NUMBER? WELL, HE TALKED TO IN THERE FOR A WHILE. I JUST GIVE IT AWAY. I DIDN'T THINK I SAID THAT. THE NAME OF THIS COMPANY, MATERIAL DISRUPTORS INCORPORATED DESTRUCT. THAT SOUNDS TERRIBLE, DOESN'T IT? THAT'S SMOKEY MOWER. YEAH. IT'S SMOKE. LIKE I HEARD THAT NAME. DID Y'ALL HEAR ON NEWS WHAT HAPPENING IN FRANCE? NO. DID UH, PEOPLE WILL, THAT THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM POLICE SEND THEM UP WITH A BASEBALL BAT OR THEY'LL SET A FIRE. FIRE. OH MY GOD. THAT IS THAT CRAZY . I HEARD THAT ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT MADE WHITE FLAGS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS SO THEY KILLED THEIR MILITARY . [00:30:02] I JUST HEARD THAT. YEAH, I HEARD THAT. YOU KNOW, NORTH KOREA ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO A SECOND NUCLEAR TEST AND FRANCE IMMEDIATELY SURRENDERED . HE SAID THE SHORTEST BOOK I'VE EVER READ. FRENCH WAR HEROES. OKAY. HOW, HOW MANY SOLDIERS HAS TAKEN WITHIN PARIS? NOBODY KNOWS. IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET COFFEE WITH OUR TAPE JUDGE, YOU KNOW, CHANCE FIXES IT. SHE WASN'T HERE THIS MORNING. HER BEING OPERATED. DON'T I SURE APPRECIATE Y'ALL BRINGING ALL THAT ATTENTION TO, UH, MY AGE. . IT SAYS 1818. JERRY AGE IS MINE OVER MATTER. IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT DON'T MATTER. I'VE HEARD THAT. WELL, I SURELY LIKE THE PRICE OF THIS CRUSHED ASPHALT. WE'RE GETTING IS IT BETTER? OH, WE CAN TURN RIGHT NOW SO I CAN FIX THE PARKING LOT OVER AT COURT THAT YOU ROAD TOOK AWAY HALF OUR PARKING LOT OVER. WOW. THAT'S WHAT I, AND THEY FILLED THE TRUCK UP. YEAH, THEY THEY'VE BEEN BRINGING LOAD IN THERE THIS MORNING OR LITTLE OVER. THAT'S TOO GOOD TO PASS. THAT'S BETTER THAN ROCK . YEAH, IT'S, I MEAN, THERE'S NO FENCE BUYING ROCK FOR THAT PRICE. IS THIS COMMODITY DOWNTOWN DALLAS? THEY'RE HAULING THIS FOR THAT PRICE. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST FOR LIKE EIGHT. THAT'S STILL FOUR 50 PLUS FIVE. FIVE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT. STRAIGHT ONE 40. YEAH. FREIGHTS ONE 40 AND AND THE, UH, MATERIAL IS ONE 20. WHAT ARE THE 20 YARD? YEAH, 24 20 WON'T FALL OVER. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD DEAL. THE ONLY DEAL BETTER THAN THAT IS FREE FROM THE STATE . YES. YEAH. YEAH. ABOUT THAT TIME TOO, ISN'T IT? WHAT IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET SOMETHING FROM BILL THIS YEAR? YEAH, BUNCH OF THESE. OKAY. THERE'S 2, 2, 2 LITTLE ONES HANGING UP, FLOATING AROUND. I HADN'T SEEN YET. JIM SIGNED, NOT YET. [00:35:10] JERRY. I GUESS TJ WATCHED THE VIDEO AT IN ARKANSAS, BUT FOR CHRISTMAS I BOUGHT HIM A PRINT, UH, FROM CARBY WHERE WE PLAYED THIS FRAME. YEAH. AND ON AND UH, I'M GONNA HAVE IT FRAMED AND I, ON EBAY I FOUND AN AUTOGRAPH SCORE CAR SCORECARD. OH, REALLY? SIGNED BY VANDERBILT. YEAH. AND UH, SO I PUT A PICTURE OF HIM WITH THIS. HEY JUDGE, HOW ARE YOU DOING? PUT A PICTURE OF PICTURE THE FAMOUS PICTURE OF VANDERBILT WITH HIS PANTS LEGS ROLLED UP. YEAH. IN THE CREEK. IN THE, IN THE WATER. AND THEN A PICTURE OF TJ HITTING, YOU KNOW, JUST HITTING THE BALL. AND WE PUT ON ONE SIDE VANDERBILT SHOT THREE OVER THE PART. BLOW THE BRIDGE. OPEN ON, ON THE 18TH HOLE. YEAH. HIT CAR. TJ LEONARD PARTY . OH, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, JUDGE. PRICELESS. YES. YOU, YOU WANNA, WE'RE TO THE POINT NOW WHERE THE PUBLIC SPEAKS TO THE COURT. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO ME? I JUST WANT SAY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. DOING A GREAT JOB. I HOPE THE REST OF THE PRINT . THANK YOU JUDGE. YOU. YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB TOO. WE APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH. LEMME READ. DO YOU MIND IF I READ IT? YEAH, JUST SIGN IT. I JUST SOME WELL, DID WE GET OUR ISSUE SETTLED WITH CITY OF KAUFMAN ON THE OLD JAIL? NO JAIL. NO JAIL. WELL, IT'S, IT'S COUPLE DAYS. JUST THE CO RIGHT? YEAH. HE SAID TOMORROW AND TODAY THE 23RD. HE SAID THE 24TH EVERYTHING WOULD BE DONE AT END OF THE CITY. SO WE'LL CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE ON THAT WE'RE GETTING THE PARKING LOT, THE EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT LEVELED OFF. SO IT CAN BE ASPHALTED. UH, WE PROBABLY DO PROBABLY THIS WEEK. POSSIBLY COMING IN TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. WELL, I'M JUST PUTTING THIS WRAP DOWN OVER THERE AND I MAY TIE IT TOGETHER WITH A LITTLE EMOTION AND INSTEAD OF PUTTING ASPHALT DOWN, JUDGE TOLD ME TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS I COULD. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT BEFORE Y'ALL ASPHALTED. THIS IS, I TOLD HIM WE WAS GOING TO PAY FOR IT OUTTA GENERAL FUND. I WANTED TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS HE COULD. SO HE MIGHT WANT COME AND LOOK FOR YOU. HE WOULDN'T HAVE ME. ASPHALT . WELL, THAT'S IN TERRELL. THIS IS IN . . HEY. UH, OR IS THAT AT THE SUB COURT HOUSE? SUB COURT HOUSE OVER THERE. YEAH. IN CASE Y'ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. UH, YOU KNOW THE 34 BYPASS, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START ON IT OVER IN TERRO. YEAH. AND UH, THEY'VE TAKEN THE COUNTY PARKING LOT AT THE SUB COURTHOUSE. SO LAST WEEK OR ONE DAY LAST WEEK WAS THE LAST DAY THAT WE COULD USE IT. AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT IT BLOCKED OFF. AND, AND UH, SO COMMISSIONER SHANE AND I, UH, CALLED ME AND, AND UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THEN PUTTING, MOVING THE PARKING AREA THERE BEHIND THE BUILDING. WE OWN THAT LOT THERE BEHIND THE BUILDING. HAVE Y'ALL STARTED LEVEL? WE'VE ALREADY GOT FIRST. I MAY COME LOOK AT IT. EVIDENTLY. MOST, I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS DONE YEARS AGO. THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. THAT WAS A LONG TIME. THIS RIGHT. WAS PURCHASED PROBABLY 15 YEARS AGO, BACK WHEN WE WERE 50 YEARS OLD. . ANYWAY, IT KIND OF CAME AS A SURPRISE TO KEN AND ME BOTH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SIGN THE DE YOU KNOW, COURSE LIKE I SAID, IT WAS DONE LONG BEFORE WE CAME ON THE SCENE, BUT, UH, JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT TOOK, UH, PART OF THE COUNTY PROPERTY. WELL, AND PLUS AFTER ALL THAT HOLLER TO GET 34 DOING, IT'S JUST KIND KIND OF A SHOCK THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING, DOING SOMETHING. YEAH, I WAS TOO, I THOUGHT. NOW KEN, RIGHT THERE, HAVE YOU SEEN, IS THAT GOING? IS IT GONNA BE OVERHEAD AS IT COMES THROUGH THERE OR NOT? OR [00:40:01] IS IT GONNA BE GROUND LEVEL? I'VE SEEN A PICTURE OF IT. UH, IT IS GONNA, THERE IS GONNA BE A BRIDGE OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. THANK GOODNESS. . AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, BECAUSE PART OF THAT LAND WAS STILL OWNED BY, UH, THE RAILROAD COMPANY AND ONE OF THE HOLDUPS WAS THAT THE RAILROAD COMPANY WOULD NOT LET THE ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATORS GET ON THEIR PROPERTY TO, TO SEE. THEY HAD TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY BEFORE THEY COULD BUY IT, BEFORE THE STATE COULD BUY IT. AND THEY WOULDN'T LET THE INVESTIGATORS GET ON THE PROPERTY. WELL, HOW LONG IS IT SUPPOSED TO TAKE FOR THEM TO DO THAT? UH, HOW MANY YEARS? OH, THEY'RE WELL UNDER WAY. IT'S LESS THAN 18 MONTHS. I THINK. 18. DO Y'ALL KNOW HOW MANY I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THEIR TERRO? MM-HMM . NOT ABOUT THE OVERPASS TOO. YEAH, THE OVERPASS. THEY HAVE TO GO BACK LONG WAYS TO MAKE THAT OVER OVER. BUT WHY? THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD. DO Y'ALL KNOW HOW MANY TRAINS GO THROUGH CORN AND TERRO EVERY DAY? 26. IS IT THAT MANY? I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT. 26 TRAINS. WELL, BUT MOST, YOU KNOW, MOST OF 'EM AREN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. . NO, MOST OF 'EM ARE RIGHT ABOUT LUNCHTIME. I WOULD THOUGHT THERE'S MORE THAN THAT. EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND, TRAIN, MOST OF, WHENEVER I GET TO THE, I'M SURE SOMETIMES WE, WE, OUR BACK DOOR IS BACKED UP AGAINST THE ROAD AND SOMETIMES WE THINK IT'S COMING IN TO US. WHAT'S ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF TWO AN HOUR THAN THEY PROBABLY HOURS. I'LL TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. I, I'VE GOT IT IN THE FILES IN THERE. BUT WITHOUT ANGIE BEING HERE THIS MORNING, I WOULD NEED VENTURE TO BEGIN LOOKING WHERE THAT IS. BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT THE TIME SCHEDULE ON IT. WELL, WHEN THOSE GATES GO DOWN AND I TOLD, PLEASE LET IT BE RAED. YES. LET IT BE M TRACKED . BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SHORT AND THEY'RE FAST. SOMETIMES IT ISN'T. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. NO. WELL, THE VOLUME INCREASED, UH, AFTER THE HURRICANE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FALLING OFF ANY, IF THEY'RE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE HAS NOT. HE HAS NOT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT , WHEN I WAS A CHILD, THAT'S HOW I LEARNED COUNT WAS COUNT, TRAIN, COUNT. SEE HOW MANY I CAN COUNT MY GRANDFATHER ALWAYS. MM-HMM . WHEN YOU GET GOOD, START ADDING THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ON THOSE MILES HOUR. I JUST GLAD WE DON'T HAVE THE KOBE CARS COMING THROUGH. . YOU KNOW WHAT'S BAD IS WHEN YOU CAN IDENTIFY ALL THE GANGS THAT ARE SPRAY PAINTED THEIR LOCAL . OH YEAH. INSIDERS. AND SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY GOOD. YES, THEY ARE. GUYS DRIVING AROUND THE COURT. YEAH. MAKE YOU THINK WE'RE DOING SOMETHING. , YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GONNA BE HERE TODAY DIGGING OUT THERE, HAULING SOME ROCKS. YOU KNOW WHAT? I AM SURE GLAD WE GOT OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY BUSINESS. I JUST PUT IN A DRIVEWAY THIS WEEKEND AT MY PROPERTY AND IT WAS LIKE $1,500 OH TO PUT IN THE DRIVEWAY. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MUCH THAT WAS COSTING US? DO THAT? THAT INCLUDED CULVER. THE CULVERT BY ITSELF WAS $800. HMM. BECAUSE OF THE ENDS AND EVERYTHING ON IT. ARE YOU IN THE CITY? WELL, JUST THE LITTLE TINY BID IS IN CITY, BUT IT WON'T BE LONG. I'M PRETTY MUCH, I SPENT LAST WEEK WITH 200 OTHER COUNTY AUDITORS. OH MAN. I'M REAL HAPPY TO BE BACK IN COUNTY AFTER HEARING SOME OF THEIR STORIES WHERE YOU GO, OH, I HOPE YOU WENT ON SOUTHWEST AND DIDN'T DRIVE. IF YOU DROVE, YOU'RE STILL DRIVING IN SO FAR. I HAD FAMILY IN, I LEAN IN. OH, THAT'S A LONG WAY. THAT'S [00:45:01] A HAL. IT'S MORE THAN HALFWAY TO CALIFORNIA. SEE, Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT EXERCISE. PREACHERS TALK ABOUT, HAVE EVERYBODY WRITE DOWN THEIR WORD PROBLEM AND GO PUT IT ON THE, PUT IT ON THE STAGE AND THEN ONCE YOU READ SOMEBODY ELSE'S, YOU TAKE YOURS BACK. SOMETHING WE'RE DONE. OKAY. WE ENTERTAIN MOTION PAY THE BILLS. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. UH, LEONARD. ALL FAVOR. A MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT WEEK, UH, WE, IT WAS THE FIFTH MONDAY. WE ORIGINALLY WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET ON THE FIFTH MONDAY. UH, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S BOARD MET, UH, FRIDAY, UH, INTERVIEWED . WE NEED THAT TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT BY NOVEMBER 1ST. SO I ATTENDED LEAVE. THEY SET A MEETING FOR MONDAY TO COME IN AND DO THE ONE THING, UH, WHEN WE WERE GOING TO, WHEN WE WERE NOT GOING TO MEET A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD HAD, UH, HAD SOMETHING PLANNED AND CAN'T BE HERE MONDAY. SO WE'RE GONNA MEET NEXT TUESDAY. NEXT TUESDAY MORNING. 31. THE 31ST. WE'LL COME IN WITH ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. OH, OKAY. AND THAT'S TO, UH, LISTEN TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER BOARD AND THEN, UH, MAKE A DECISION ON WHO TO EMPLOY AS THE NEW PUBLIC DEFENDER. OKAY. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE BEING TOLD ALL ALONG THAT FOR EACH MONTH YOU DID NOT GET SOMEONE ON BOARD, YOU WOULD LOSE THAT MONTH'S FUNDING OF THE GRANT. HOWEVER, LAST WEEK IN AUSTIN, WE MET WITH THEM AND WE TALKING TO 'EM AND THEY SAID, WELL, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT IT ON THE END. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE THE MONEY THE QUICKER IT IS JUST GONNA BE EXTENDED. SO THE QUICKER WE GET THE PERSON ON BOARD, THE QUICKER HE CAN START INTERVIEWING AND GETTING HIS STAFF TOGETHER. JUDGE, YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, UH, INDIGENT DEFENSE TASK FORCE SEMINAR THAT WE WENT TO. AND, UH, BECAUSE THAT TIES INTO THAT JUDGE TAG AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROUND AND I, AND COMMISSIONER SHANE WAS GOING TO, BUT HE HAD A LITTLE EMERGENCY, BY THE WAY. USE YOUR PACKET. HAD A LITTLE EMERGENCY COME UP OVER THERE ON, ON THAT THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ANY PARKING AREA FOR THE COURTHOUSE. SO HE OPTED TO FIX THAT, WHICH I THINK WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. UH, ANYWAY, WE, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD SEMINAR. WE, WE LEARNED QUITE A BIT. AND ONE THING, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVITED TO THIS SEMINAR WERE JUST THE COUNTIES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THE HIGH EXPENDITURES. IT'S NOT JUST COLTON COUNTY, BUT SO THEY, UH, IN OUR LITTLE WORK GROUP WE HAD, WE HAD UH, UH, ABILENE AS TAYLOR COUNTY, WE HAVE TAYLOR COUNTY AND WALLEY COUNTY AND, AND THEN US. AND UH, BUT THE KEY, THE KEY TO EVERY SUCCESS SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IS NUMBER ONE, GET THE PUBLIC DEFENDER TO INTERVIEW THAT PERSON AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AT THE JAIL. MM-HMM . YEAH. MOST OF THEM ARE, ARE SAID WE GONNA PLAN TO DO IT AT THE JAIL AND THE SOONER THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE GETS INVOLVED, BETTER OFF AND HE CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT THAT POINT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THIS PERSON'S GONNA QUALIFY. THE OTHER THING IS ALWAYS FOLLOW UP. UM, AT THE EARLY APPOINTMENT, UH, NOT THE EARLY APPOINTMENT, BUT THE EARLIEST THAT THE OFFICE HAS CONTACT WITH THE DEFENDANT, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. AND THEN HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE FOLLOW UP. THEY MAKE BOND AND THEY GET OUT. THEN THEY WILL BE, THEIR CASE WILL BE REVIEWED IF THEY'RE OUT WORKING. JUDGE, THE BIGGEST THING THEY STRESS EVERY TIME WAS COOPERATION BETWEEN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS DEPARTMENT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY MUST HAVE SAID THAT 30 TIMES. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COUNTY AUDITORS AND UH, AND SOME TREASURERS THERE. AND, UH, UH, THEY'D COME BY AND JUST SHAKE THEIR HEAD AND WAS, WHAT'S THE MATTER? WE CANNOT BELIEVE THAT YOU GOT A DISTRICT JUDGE, A COUNTY JUDGE AND A COUNTY COMMISSIONER SITTING DOWN TOGETHER. ONE GUY FROM MCLENDON SAID, AS YOU SEE, NONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE . BUT ANYWAY, EVERYBODY DOES HAVE TO BE ON BOARD WORKING TOGETHER AND YEAH. BUT, UH, WE, WE CAME BACK WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS AND UM, UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA REVIEW OUR PROGRAM IN SIX MONTHS. [00:50:02] UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE ARE UNDER THE MICROSCOPE HERE IN COLTON COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE GRANT. SO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, TUESDAY. THAT'S WHY WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS PROBABLY AFTER HE APPOINTS SOMEBODY. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP GOOD DOCUMENTATION, NUMBER OF CASES. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S GOTTA BE IMPORTANT. YEAH. DOWN TO COST, COST PER CASE. AND THAT'S, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY, WHY OR THEY GAVE US SOME FIGURES DOWN THERE, UH, COMMISSIONER SHOWING WHAT THE STATE'S COST PER CASE WAS AND WHAT THEY, THEY GAVE US A LOT OF BREAKDOWNS OF THINGS THAT UH, PROBABLY OUGHT TO COME IN VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. I, I WENT ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S THING AND THEY SANG THAT THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 200 TO $230 PER CASE IF YOU HIT THAT NUMBER. THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER THAT I'M JUST KINDA INTERESTED TO SEE HOW WELL HAVING FDL SAID THAT. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN FIGURE OUT A SATELLITE OFFICE AT THE JAIL? UH, ACTUALLY THERE'S SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR SOME KIND OF VIDEO CONFERENCING THING. YEAH. THERE THAT WOULD WORK WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN OUR GRANT, BUT, UH, BUT A LOT OF THE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO THE VIDEO CONFERENCING. UH, BUT I, MY COMMENT WAS THAT IF THEY'RE DOING IT JUST TO KEEP THE JP AND HAVE 'EM GO TO THE JAIL AND WHERE OR WHERE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN, WELL I WASN'T FOR IT FOR THAT PURPOSE. YEAH. BUT THERE ARE RE THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN REALLY COME IN, COME INTO PLAY ON, BUT AS FAR AS, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A, THE WAY THEY MOST, THE WAY THEY WERE DOING IT, LIKE IN THE WE HAVE OUR LITTLE COURTROOM OUT THERE FOR THE ARRAIGNMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE ARRANGED THE INDIVIDUAL AND THEN WITHIN IN THAT COURTROOM THEN, OR RIGHT IN THE ANNIE ROOM WOULD BE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER. UH, SO AS SOON AS THEY GET ARRAIGNED, THEN THEY GO TO PUBLIC DEFENDER AND THEN HE I, IF THEY'RE GONNA QUALIFY FOR IT FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER TO REPRESENT. SO IT'S ALL DONE RIGHT THERE TOGETHER. MATTER OF FACT, DO THAT COMPUTER BACKGROUND, THE, THAT READ THE CHECK. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH. UH, SOME OF THE COUNTIES, UH, ARE USING IT ALREADY AND LIKE IT, SOME OF THE COUNTIES ARE SAYING FOR WHAT IT COSTS, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. SO I THINK WHEN WE GET THIS STUDY DONE AND THE STATE'S DOING A STUDY ALSO, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE AUTHORIZED THE, UH, DMED TO DO A STUDY TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD HAVE SAVED LAST YEAR HAD WE HAD THIS IN PLACE. AND UH, SO WHEN WE GET THAT STUDY DONE, UH, AND THEN, THEN WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND SEE. BUT YEAH, THAT'S STILL IN THE MAIL. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT STUDY TO COME IN. PLUS THE STATE IS DOING A STUDY ON IT ALSO. BUT DMED IS THE, THAT'S ONE THAT EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S WHO'S DOING OUR STUDY. BUT WE ALSO FOUND OUT THERE'S ABOUT TWO OR THREE MORE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING. AND THE DMED WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE OF THEM. WOULD HE GIVE US A MONTHLY UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON? UH, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER YOU MEAN? RIGHT? UH, WOULD THINK SO. YEAH. AT LEAST A QUARTERLY. AT LEAST A QUARTERLY. GOOD. UM, SO IF WE CAN GET HIM ON BOARD, UM, BY NOVEMBER 1ST AND JUDGE TAG, UH, HAD INDICATED TO THE GROUP DOWN THERE THAT WE SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING BY DECEMBER 1ST. CAN WE DO A BOARD RIGHT NEXT TO THE UNITED WHITEBOARD SHOW? HOW MUCH MONEY WAS THAT? SO THEY'VE BEEN, WELL WILL THIS OFFICE BE READY BY THEN? YOU THINK? HE THINKS IT'LL BE PRETTY CLOSE. IT'LL BE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT, UH, I MEAN NOT BY NOVEMBER. WHAT, WHAT THE CHIEF IS GONNA HAVE TO DO IS HIRE ANOTHER ONE AND INVESTIGATE. AND AN INVESTIGATOR AND AN ADMINISTRATOR. YEAH. IT'S GONNA TAKE HIM A MONTH TO PROBABLY YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAY. UH, HE THE MAY IT IS NOT GONNA BERATED BY NOVEMBER THE FIRST. DEFINITELY NOT. BUT THEY SHOULD. IT WILL BE READY BY DECEMBER 1ST. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE UPDATE ON THAT. UH, WITH THAT I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. UH, DID WE PAY THE BILLS? YEAH, I MADE A MOTION TO PAY THE BILL. OKAY. WE VOTED ON IT. COMMISSIONER LER MAKES THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND. I MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE GOT A BIRTHDAY PARTY TO GO TO MAKE A MOTION. WE TO THE OLD MAN. [00:55:01] ALRIGHT EVERYBODY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.