* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] COMMISSIONER COURT. NOVEMBER 20TH, 2006. COMMISSIONER LEONARD HAS, UH, NOT GONNA BE HERE THIS MORNING AS KIDS. WE GOT SEVERAL THINGS WORKING THIS MORNING. SO YOU SET THIS UP. OKAY, WE'LL COME NOW. COMMISSIONER UP TODAY, PLEASE. YES, LET'S PRAY PLEASE. MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THINK THEY A PRIVILEGE, AN OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS. DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. PLEASE GO WITH US AND HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE TO DO SO. UH, AGAIN, LOOK WITH FAVOR ON OUR TROOPS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY AND BRING THEM HOME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. I PLEDGE THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD WAS IMMIGR TO JUSTICE. ALL I HONOR FLAG THAT I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. THE TEXAS. Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BILLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FAVOR, SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIES. I SAY DILL, DILL AND I ARE OKAY. FIRST ITEM UP ON THE AGENDA. VERY IMPORTANT ITEM BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THE REPORT FROM, UH, RICHARD MURPHY, OUR CARLTON COUNTY ELECTION OFFICIAL, UH, CERTIFIED THE RETURNS. WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, OFFICIALLY DECLARE THOSE AS THE RESULT OF THE NOVEMBER 7TH ELECTION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY SECOND COMMISSIONER ROW. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. DON'T SHOW THE, UH, THE, THE BOND STUFF ON. NO, WE, WE DON'T CANVAS THOSE. CANVAS THE ENTITY WHO HAD THE ELECTION CANVAS. THOSE ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. DID I GET THAT MA? YEAH. MAKE SURE I DON'T FORGET THAT ONE. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. MR. HOW JONES AND HE GOING BRING TO THE AUTHORS REPORT FOR OCTOBER. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU SEE THE GAME SATURDAY. ALRIGHT, GENTLEMEN, THIS WILL BE ON MY DESK THIS COMING WEEK AGO. I COME IN AND LOOK AT OVER TO SEE WHERE THE, UH, [00:05:02] COUNTY STANDS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, LINE ITEM. IT'LL BE THERE. SO I'D ENTERTAIN MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MILLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. HOW SIR? UH, IT'S ABOUT 10. SO, UH, NEXT HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER RENEWING OUR MEMBERSHIP VIEWS WITH THE TEXAS CONFERENCE OF URBAN COUNTIES AND APPROVE PAYING THE, UH, ANNUAL FEE. I RECOMMEND THIS WHERE YOU GET A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM, PARTICULARLY WITH LEGISLATURE COMING UP THIS SESSION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWING. ALL YE UH, MOTION CARRIES. DID YOU MEAN TO SKIP NUMBER FIVE? BUT IT'S NOT 10 YET. WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL 10. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU, JUDGE. WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T OPEN THOSE. UH, YOU, WE MADE THAT CHANGE THAT THEY'D BE OPEN AT THE NINE 30 MEETING, SO WE CAN'T OPEN THEM AGAIN. OH, OKAY. I JUST, UH, JUDY. OKAY. I JUST ASSUMED WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AT 10. I WANTS TO GET IT. YEAH, WELL IF WE, UH, I FORGOT WE MADE THAT CHANGE TO OPEN AT TIME 30, SO, UH, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. FIRST OFF, DO WE HAVE ANY? YES, SIR. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ALL ALL, I DIDN'T INTEND A MOTION THEN TO OPEN THE, UH, FOR, UH, AN SUV FOR POLICE VEHICLES FOR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER SECONDS. IT ALL, AYE. MOTION CARRIE, SO WE CAN OPEN. THE FIRST BID IS FROM CALDWELL COUNTRY CHEVROLET OUT OF CALDWELL, TEXAS. WE'VE GOT A BID ALL THE WAY UP HERE IN KALIN COUNTY FROM COMMONWEALTH. YES, SIR. THEY ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE A CONTRACT ON, UH, TARRANT COUNTY'S BIG BID. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE, AND THEIR BID IS 29,000 EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN EIGHT. NEXT BID IS FROM WILEY MUSSER. IT'S $30,233 AND 70 CENTS. AND THE SHERIFF AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAYBE TAKE A BREAK AND LOOK AT THESE SPECS TO MAKE SURE MEAT SPEC. WE, THAT'LL BE FINE. 30, 30,000 2 33 7. THAT'S ALRIGHT. WE'LL SET THAT AWARD UNTIL YOU AND THE SHERIFF HAVE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COURT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOWING JURORS TO DONATE TO JUROR PAGE TO THE GENESIS CENTER. WE ALREADY HAVE A ORDER ON FILE ALLOWING TO, UH, DONATE TO THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER. UH, BUT IT'S COME UP AT THE GENESIS CENTER. [00:10:01] UH, SOME OF MIGHT WANT DONATE TO THE GENESIS CENTER. I THE, THAT, THAT TO BE PUT ON. DID I DO THAT? I, UH, JERRY, THAT'S YOUR, YOU REQUEST THAT TO BE ON SOME OF US. I DIDN'T, I GUESS MURPHY MUST, HE MUST HAVE BROUGHT IT IN AND WE SIGNED THE IT OVER. THEY, UH, THEY QUOTED GOVERNMENT CODE JUDGE GAVE THE GENESIS CENTER OF INFORMATION THEY NEEDED TO APPLY TO YOU TO START THE BALL ROLLING LEGALLY TO, TO DO IT. I DON'T HAVE YOU DO IT FOR UH, WE DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER. CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD. YEAH. AND I BELIEVE YOUR PRECINCT. I BELIEVE THAT WE UH, THAT WE ALLOW THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER RYAN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. NEXT WE HAVE IS, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE DEPUTATION OF THERE OGBURN FOR THE COMPTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BY COMMISSIONER FELLER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE INVITATION OF JENNIFER BROOK GREENHALL FOR THE COLMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. ALL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FELLER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS THE ATION OF CYNTHIA RAMIREZ FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. OH NO, I JUST SAID IF YOU, UH, SHE'S HERE. THAT'S CYNTHIA. THAT'S CYNTHIA. I JUST SAID IF YOU WERE ON THE BALL, IF YOU WERE LISTENING TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, LAURA, WELL, IT'S A CLERK CLAUSE THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. SHE'S GONNA BE A NEW VIDEO PERSON, SO. OH, GREAT. I MAKE THE MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? THE AYE A MOTION CARRIED AND I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THE START. PICKED IT UP. OKAY. UH, NEXT ROUND DISCUSSING ATION OF PAM SINGLETON. IS PAM HERE THIS MORNING? SHE'S WORKING. OH, SHE'S WORKING, WORKING. BUSY. BUSY. BUSY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN THURSDAY. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS, UH, CONSIDERING REQUEST FOR EMBARK TO INSTALL VERY CABLE COMMUNICATIONS ALONG RIGHT OF WAY OF COUNTY ROAD 40 52 IN PRECINCT FOUR. GETTING DOWN TO THE COUNTY LINE. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RIGHT OF MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, THERE WAS A DALLAS CROWN REPORT FILED FOR THE WEEK ENDING 10 26 AND 1102. ACKNOWLEDGE MOVE THE FILING OF, UH, THOSE TWO REPORTS. I MOVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE FILING OF THOSE TWO REPORTS. COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECONDS THE MOTION. OKAY. GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION CARRIES TRANSFER. YEAH, WE'VE GOT FOUR MINUTES. CAN WE DO THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN FOUR MINUTES? WE HAVE, WE AS WELL HAVE SOME MORE THERE, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK. THOSE PROBABLY CAN'T. NO, IT IS NINE 30. WHEN DID WE CHANGE 'EM? FROM NINE 10 TO NINE 30 WHEN JACK GOT HERE, THAT WAS JACK'S REQUEST. AND Y'ALL APPROVED IT IS A GOOD IDEA. WELL, LET'S DO THE ADDENDUM ITEMS THEN. ALRIGHT, NOW THAT JACK'S NOT HERE. , LET'S GO AND DO THE WE HAVE OPPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFER OF THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AREA TO INCREASE DUE FOR NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES $86 REDUCTION IN VITAL [00:15:01] STATISTICS. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO, UH, GET THE LINE ITEMS CORRECT FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT, THAT, UH, HAD BEEN DISCUSSED EARLIER. WE JUST HAD A LUMP SUM IN THERE. WE'RE ALLOCATING SOME OF THOSE TO THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS. AND THEN, UH, THE TREASURER REQUESTED SOME CHANGES IN THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT BUDGET AFTER VISITING WITH PEOPLE FROM AUSTIN AND WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF THAT PROGRAM, UH, DETERMINED THAT ADDITIONAL COLLECTION OFFICER WAS REQUIRED. SO THERE'S ABOUT $35,000 INCREASE IN THAT BUDGET. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAD SOME CHANGES TO THE ADULT PROBATION AND, AND I BELIEVE WE ALL IN COMMUNITY SUPERVISION, WE OTHER PASS THREE FUNDS. THOSE OTHER BE PASSED THREE. YES. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL WE ENTERTAINED. MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. OBJECTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL YE AYE. MOTION CARRIES CARES. HE'S WITH THE SHERIFF. NOW. CAN YOU LOOK OUT THERE AND SEE IF JACK'S OUT THERE? YOU GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID THERE WOULD BE, BUT I TENSE. NEED TO RUSH YOU, JACK. Y'ALL HAVE, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD TO GO? YES, SIR. UH, YOU, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE UM, SUVS AWARD? YES, SIR. AND THAT WOULD BE TO, UH, CALWELL COUNTRY CHEVROLET. AND, UH, TOTAL PRICE BID, AGAIN IS 29 8 97 EACH. YES, SIR. CAN I MAKE A, CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? JUDGE, I, I APPRECIATE, UH, SOMEBODY THAT FAR AWAY COMING IN AND MAKING A BED, AND I'M HAPPY THAT WE GET SOME OTHER BED. UH, I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP THAT INSIDE OUR COUNTY IF IT, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE? $300 A CAR, $350 A CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, IN MY MIND I WOULD RATHER KEEP THAT LOCALLY. IF THE SHERIFF AND THE PERSON ENGAGE PREFER CALL. WELL, I'LL, UH, I'LL ACQUIESCE TO THEIR, TO THEIR THINKING, BUT, UH, I LIKE TO KEEP THAT STUFF LOCALLY IF POSSIBLE. I DON'T WANT TO GO AGAINST ANYBODY THAT THAT WANTS IT THAT WAY. I'D SURE LIKE TO BE LOCAL. YEAH, I, I AGREE THAT THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PROJECT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO AWARD TO. IF THAT'S $1,500 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T, WE DO PREFER TO GO LOCAL. THAT'S WHY WE BID. BUT THAT'S Y'ALL CHOICE. I I DON'T HAVE ANY IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DEALER PER SE, BUT WE WANT TO GO. SO GIVE PEOPLE A TO BUY IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. WELL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. WELL, I THINK IT'S UNDERSTAND THE LAW. IF YOU DON'T GO WITH LOW BID, YOU GOTTA GIVE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY. YEAH, MY ONLY REASON FOR WHY WOULD BE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH CLOSER. THEIR SERVICE COULD PROBABLY BE QUICKER AND FASTER FROM, UH, FROM BUSER. YOU, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO WITH, TO, UH, AWARD WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE IS THE BEST OVERALL BID. UH, NO DOUBT THERE. UH, I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD'VE IS THAT, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE TO BID THIS VEHICLE OUT TO BEGIN WITH, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONTRACT WE COULD PIGGYBACK OFF OF AND SAVE ADVERTISEMENT, SAVE BID, THAT TYPE OF THING. BUT WE ELECTED TO GIVE A LOCAL GUY OPPORTUNITY. UH, HAVING SAID Y'ALL CHOICE, WELL, I SURE DON'T WANT DISCOURAGE ANYBODY FROM BIDDING TO THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE EVERYBODY THE BIDS HERE IN THE LOCAL COUNTY. BUT WHEN IT'S THAT CLOSE, UH, THAT I, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT ON COUNTY SERVICE. [00:20:04] THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT, UH, IS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN YOU, UH, IF YOU NOTICE WE BID OUT THESE, THESE CARS QUITE A, QUITE A SUM OF MONEY. WE HAD TWO BIDDERS. UH, NEXT TIME THE LOCAL GUY DOESN'T WANT TO BID. YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I'M ALL FOR GIVING THE LOCAL GUY , BUT I'M NOT BEING CONCERNED THAT, UH, NEXT TIME DON'T GET A BID OFF OR THE GUY THAT WAS LOADED IS NOT BID. WELL, FIVE VEHICLES, THAT'S, I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH CALDWELL, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE BID CLOSED, YOU KNOW, MENTIONING THAT, UH, WHAT IT COULD DO AS WELL IS, IS I WOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET THE CO-OP BID LIST, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO BID ON, YOU KNOW, HUNDRED CARS AT A TIME. UH, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO I'M REACHING OUT TO LOCAL VENDORS, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER SHANE, WHEN Y'ALL WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION BOARD BID TO MUER, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SERVICE? UH, IF IT GOES TO CALDWELL, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD THE MU CHEVROLET SERVICE IT I HEARD TO SAY, I WOULDN'T SAY I'D HAVE A PROBLEM. UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, UH, IT'S NOT THEIR VEHICLE YOU BACK OF LINE OTHER THAT I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, UH, THINK THAT, YOU KNOW WHY THEY MUST SPECIAL DEALERSHIP, THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, YOU KNOW? I MEAN IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER THEM TO GET, GET THE THING BECAUSE WE COULD DEAL WITH THEM EASIER IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM. AND IF IT'S SOMETHING BIG, YOU KNOW, YOU I'D WANT TO GO TO CALDWELL TO GET THEM HANDLE THAT AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. ALL. BUT YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I, I DON'T SORT DEATH, BUT THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IS THAT, UH, UH, MY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CHEVROLET DEALER, ONE OF THE BIG DEALERS IN TOWN, UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE REEF FROM US. AND THEY NEVER BID POLICE PACKAGE CARS, BUT THEY ALWAYS BID THE SERVICE ON. BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THE CERTAIN PART'S AN ISSUE, BUT I, I'M NOT TRYING TO WATER UP THERE. GENERAL, GENERAL SPEAKING, THESE GUYS LIKE THE ONE TO WORK. I JUST CONCERNED THAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS, UH, LOCAL SERVICES. THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I, OKAY, LET'S MOVE AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS YOU FEEL WE'VE GOT THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION NOT TO GO WITH THE LITTLE BID WE HAVE, WE HAVE A RIGHT. IF THIS COURT DETERMINES THAT IT'S THE BEST VALUE FOR COLLIN COUNTY, WELL IN THAT POINT I'M WITH JERRY. UH, YOU KNOW, $300 IF YOU HAVE A SERIOUS WARRANTY PROBLEM AND THE SERVICE IS RIGHT LOCAL. AND HAVING SAID THAT, UH, UH, THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT TELLS US THAT, UH, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA AWARD TO THE VENDOR OTHER THAN A LOW BID, WE HAVE TO TELL THAT VENDOR IN ADVANCE. SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW UP FOR COURT IF HE CHOSE. SEE, I KNEW THERE WAS, UH, SOME LEGAL CATCH THERE THAT I HAD CONCERN ABOUT. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. UH, THEY DON'T SHOW UP. YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE LAW BETTER THAN MET MET SPEC OPPORTUNITY TO DIVORCE HIS OPINION. BUT, UH, WE COULD PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK. YOU COULD NOTIFY, UH, CALDWELL THAT THE COURT IS CONSIDERING GOING WITH, UH, THE LOCAL BIDDER AND HIS WIFE. YES, SIR. AND LIST WHY, AND THEN GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE NEXT MONDAY. YES, SIR. I SURE DO. WE CAN DO THAT. SO LET'S, I'D RECOMMEND THEN THAT WE TABLE THIS. OKAY. AWARD TODAY TO ALLOW JACK AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOTIFY VOTE, UH, WHAT THE COURT IS, UH, CONSIDERING DOING AND WHY IS THERE, IS THERE A RUSH TIME LIMIT? UH, THAT NO, WE JUST NEED TO GET, GET ORDER POSSIBLE. CAUSE THE LEAD TIME DELIVERY EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING MORE AND MORE ON THESE VEHICLES THAT ARE FOUR YEARS OLD. SO WE'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S ALRIGHT. UH, MR. ROUND MAKES A MOTION TO TAKE THIS UNTIL, UH, JACK CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOTIFY [00:25:01] THE BIDDER. AND COMMISSIONER LER. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES A LITTLE TABLE LEFT THEN UNTIL NEXT WEEK. UH, BIDS ON FIRST ITEM CONCRETE FOR THE KEMP CONVENIENCE STATION. WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. DO WE HAVE ANY BIDS? FIRST OFF? YES, SIR. WE DO. I THINK THIS TIME WE'VE GOT FIVE BID, FIVE BIDS. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO OPEN THE BID FOR THE CONCRETE FOR THE KEMP CONVENIENCE STATION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY MOTION. CARRIES FIRST BID THIS MORNING IS FROM B AND B CONCRETE SAWING OUT OF DALLAS, TEXAS. THEY ALL BROKE IT UP AND, WELL, YOU HAVEN'T OPENED IT UP YET, BUT I GUESS HOPEFULLY THEY'VE ALL BID THE WALL AND THE DRIVE. YES SIR. IT'S GONNA REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE FLOORS, RIGHT? WE HAD, WE HAD IT LISTED AS ITEM ONE, ITEM TWO. YES, SIR. GREG, FIRST ITEM THOUSAND PAPER NEXT BID IS BLW CONCRETE, I'M SORRY, BW. CONCRETE CONTRACTORS INCORPORATED ALSO OUTTA DALLAS. THEIR BID FOR ITEM ONE, THE WALL IS 134,000, $134,080. ITEM NUMBER TWO, DRIVEWAY AREA $75,980. IF THE DISH IS CORRECT, THEY SHOW A TOTAL OF 210,060. THAT'S 2 10 0 6. NEXT BID IS L-A-R-R-E DOUBLET INCORPORATED OUT KAUFMAN. ITEM ONE, THE WALL IS 106,500. ITEM TWO, THE DRIVEWAY AREA, $91,808. AND TOTAL THEY SHOW IS 1 98. 3 0 8. AND THAT'S 18. THAT, THAT DRIVEWAY AREA SHOULD BE 91,000 8 0 8 0.18. NEXT BID IS RICK WATSON, TERRELL, TEXAS, FIRST OF ALL, HE'S, HE HAS A NOTATION THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE WORKMAN'S COMP INSURANCE. HOWEVER, I WOULD BE, UH, UH, SHOULD I WIN THE CONTRACT? I WOULD, UH, BE GLAD TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER. SO I'VE TAKEN THAT. HE MIGHT GET THAT IF HE WAS AWARD POSSIBLE ITEM ONE, THE WALL 36,300. ITEM TWO, THE AREA 74,100. TOTAL BID 110,400. LAST BID IS SPECIALTY CONCRETE APPLICATIONS OF CANTON, TEXAS. [00:30:05] ITEM ONE, THE WALL 52,000. ITEM TWO DRIVEWAY AREAS 52,385. THEY SHOW A TOTAL OF 1 0 4 3 8500 4,385. THAT SPECIALTY CONCRETE OUTTA WHERE, UH, CAN HE, HE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT DID CONCRETE WORK IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE STRUCTURE. HE HAD, HE HAD INDICATED TO ME THAT HE, UH, COULD GET WORK'S COMP HAD DISCUSSION WITH HIM EARLIER THAT OFFICER JACK COULD HAVE. HE INDICATED THAT HE COULD, HIS WOULD INCLUDE WORKERS' COMP, WORKINGMAN COMP, LAND INSURANCE, ATORY WORK. DID Y'ALL HAVE WORK? THAT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER ISN'T ONE WAS WAY UP. IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, TO AWARD THIS SPECIAL AGREE MOTION IMAN'S. OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN'T AWARD IT. NO. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL AYE. MOTION CARRIED. NEXT ITEM, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OPENING AND AWARDING THE BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS ROAD MATERIALS. UH, WHEN Y'ALL WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION, MR MAKES A MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT. COMMISSIONER DOUG A SECOND. IT SAY, OKAY JACKIE, HE CAN OPEN THE BID AND WE DO HAVE 14 BIDS. UH, 14. YES SIR. JUDGE, GOTTA REMEMBER LAST YEAR, UH, THERE'S ROUGHLY 60 TO 70 ITEMS ON THIS BID. AND LAST YEAR WE JUST SELECTED TO OPEN THE COURT AND THEN, UH, TABULATION COME BACK IN AND NOT BE EACH ITEM. I HAVE, I DO HAVE ONE EXCEPTION ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, BID AND THAT IS, UH, COMMISSIONER LEONARD IS WANTING TO DO SOME, UH, OVERLAYING AND HE WANTED TO, UH, THAT I'M ASSUMING BID OVERLAY. THAT'S Y'ALL ITEM. WELL, SO HOW YOU GOT 'EM SEPARATED THERE? I HAVEN THAT ONE LINE ITEM SEPARATED. YOU HAVE THAT ONE LINE, THE OVERLAY RIGHT? IT, IT'S THE LAST ITEM OF THE BID. AND UH, LAST YEAR WE DID IT THIS WAY AND ANYBODY'S IN THE COURTROOM THAT WANT TO SEE THE BID. WELCOME. COME TO MY OFFICE. BE ALL GOOD. OKAY, SO WE HAD THE MOTION WE PASS FOR YOU TO OPEN THE NOW. SO THEN WE'LL NEED A MOTION THEN TO ALLOW YOU TO, TO DO YOUR SPREADSHEET LIKE YOU DID AS FAR AS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YES SIR. AND WITH EXCEPTION OF AWARDING ONE ITEM ON THE, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DONE BY NEXT MONDAY? IT'S GONNA BE CLOSED. WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. TAKE OKAY. YOU THEN AHEAD AND NOTIFY CASSIE WHEN YOU WANT IT ON. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL, I DON'T WANNA PUSH YOU ON UNLESS YOU NEED BY TIME. SO, OKAY. YOU'LL JUST NOT NOTIFY CASSIE. SO THEN WE WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO, UH, DELAY AWARDING THOSE BIDS UNTIL PERSON AGENT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT A SPREADSHEET. RIGHT. AND I THINK ALSO IT MAY BE, IT MAY REQUIRE LOOK AT THE SITE VISIT. POSSIBLY. WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. YEAH. WELL WE JUST WON'T PUT IT, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT TODAY UNTIL YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. SO MR. SHANE WILL MAKE THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL SECOND IT ALL. . OKAY. YOU HAVE TO DEAL ON THAT. SO NOW WE NEED AN TO OPEN THE BID FOR THE OVERLAYING [00:35:01] EXISTING ROAD. FIRST BID IS IS APAC, UH, APAC, TEXAS OUT OF DALLAS. AND THEY DID, THEY DID NO BID. UH, THE OVERLAY APAC NO BID ON THE OVERLAY. I THINK THEY JUST HANDLED JUST ON THE OVERLAY. YEAH, THEY, THEY SUPPLIED THE MATERIAL. THEY DON'T DO GLOVES. NEXT BID IS ARMOR MATERIALS. THEY ALSO KNOW BID. THE NEXT IS BEDROCK CONCRETE CRUSHING OUTTA VILLE. NO BID ON THAT ONE ITEM AS WELL. BID IS UH, BIG CITY CRUSH CONCRETE DOESN'T IS AS WELL. PEACH TREE. NEXT BID IS BLAZER RESOURCES INCORPORATED. UH, LEEBURG, TEXAS. NO BID IS THAT BLAZER? YES SIR. OKAY. NEXT BID IS INSTRUCTORS INCORPORATED. S SPRINGS NO BID. NEXT BID IS A SPECIALIST OUT FORT WORTH. NEXT BID IS GARY WILLIAMS ENERGY CORPORATION, OKLAHOMA CITY, EMOTIONAL PEOPLE. NEXT BID IS GREEN AGGREGATES INCORPORATED. BRIDGEPORT, UH, HENDERSON COUNTY. ATHENS BROTHER. I DON'T THINK ADAM BROTHER DOES. THEY HAVE NO BID. YEAH, ADAM BROTHER. THEY DID LAST YEAR. WHAT? PEACH? THEY'RE BIDDING 24,000 PER MILE. PRICE IS BASED ON A MINIMUM OF ONE MILE 18 FOOT WIDE. UH, PER MOVE IN, UH, ANY LEVEL UP OR ADDITIONAL, UH, WORK BE UH, WOULD BE OPTIONAL. 18 FOOT? YES SIR. [00:40:02] ANY ADDITIONAL WORK WOULD BE BUILT AT TWO 50. WHERE NEXT BID IS R AND D SERVICES CREEK, TEXAS NO BID. NEXT BID IS ROCK SOLID CRUSHED ON LEONARD, TEXAS. AND THAT IS AN NO BID. AND THE LAST BID IS SOUTHWEST CRUSHING 40 TEXAS. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I BELIEVE THAT PRICE IS IN LINE LAST YEAR. YEAH. MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO PEACHTREE CONSTRUCTION FOR ITS ATTACHMENT F UH, IN THE BID FOR LABOR OVER, UH, COMMISSIONER SHA MAKES THAT MOTION SECOND PERMISSION AND SECOND IT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL MOTION CARRIES. YOU GET THAT SIR? I DID. GOOD. DO WE, UH, HAVE ANY BILLS? YES, SIR. OKAY. I'M USING [00:49:57] YOUR SIGNIFICANT WAS SIGNIFICANT. [00:51:03] HE'S TWO. YOU SEE THIS MORNING INTENSIVE CARE, BUT SHE STILL HAS ATOMY SO SHE CAN'T START HER. SHE CAN'T TALK. [00:55:22] I'VE KIND OF LAUGHING HOUR. I'M OKAY. I, AND I SAW PAID, BUT HEY, WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU'RE UP HERE. BARELY. UH, WE'RE IN OUR COMMISSIONER COURT MEETING AND, AND I HAVE ALREADY DONE OUR BUSINESS. WE'RE WAITING UNTIL THESE OTHER TWO GUYS FINISH THERE. SO WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THINGS AND UH, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. HUH? ? YEAH. HEY, I WAS DISAPPOINTED I COULDN'T GET YOU LAST SUNDAY AND WHEN I CAME TO THERE, I WAS GONNA GET FRIES. SO WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE US STATE THERE. BUT I CHARGE YOUR ACCOUNT. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW IT AT THE YEAH, WELL LISTEN, JERRY WANTS TO SAY WE, MY NEPHEW GOT ONE ONLY. OH YEAH. ANYBODY TAKE RUN AROUND? [01:00:51] BUT ANYWAY. NO, I LOST A SHEET OF PAPER FOR HER. YEAH, THANK YOU. I THINK SO. HE SAID SHE CAN'T DO HER REHAB. SHE, SO ANYWAY, IT'S JUST A BAD DEAL. EVERYBODY'S WAITING ON ME. 17,000 PEOPLE IN THE COURTROOM WAITING ON ME TO GET THROUGH TALKING TO YOU. OKAY, NEXT. I'LL SEE YOU LATER. BYE. GOT YOU THERE. ARE WE DOING YOU? YEAH, I LIKE TO SAY I ALMOST CALLED YOU DOWN THERE OUT THERE. I DIDN'T CALL YOU. YEAH, I GO BACK THERE EVERY DAY. YOU WORRIED ABOUT YOU. I'M SURE. JUDGE, YOU CAN TALK JACK, JACK GIVE YOU THE STRAIGHT KENNY ON THE COURTHOUSE ON YOU. I'VE MENTIONED A FEW THINGS TO HIM. THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION HALF MORE WE HAVE. SO THERE IS SOME, SOME FOLKS WHO APPLY BUSINESS THAT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN, I THINK I GAVE THAT COPY THAT SHOWS WHAT THE, BE LIKE MAYBE SEVEN 80% AT THAT DOLLAR LEVEL DEMOLITION AND SOME OF THAT WAS GOING, THOSE PEOPLE COME IN AND ON TOP OF. YEAH. IF YOU, IF WE COULD JUST GO IN THERE AND DO ONE OF THOSE, THAT BOTTOM COURTROOM AND LET THE ONE GO KEEP THAT UNDER 50,000. YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU I PRETTY STUPID. ALL DIFFERENT STORY. DO THE WHOLE PROJECT. SO [01:05:09] WE GO THAT ROUTE. I THINK WE GOOD IDEA. OKAY. I MOTION. MOTION MADE, SECONDED BY SHANE. ALL IN AYE. MOTION CARRIED. UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN. Y'ALL HAVE DAY WEDNESDAY, SEVEN O'CLOCK. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TO ADJOURN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ROUND MOTION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.