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LET US PRAY AS CHRIST AS HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE THINK THEY PROVE AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTIES.
PLEASE GIVE US THE WISDOM AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS IN THOSE, THOSE UH AREAS.
THANK YOU FOR SENDING US THIS LIFE GIVING RAIN.
LOOK DOWN WITH FAVOR ON THEIR SOLDIERS AS WE PUT THEM IN, PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY AND BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS TO NAME.
IGI TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH CHANGED ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BY SHANE.
CARRIE? UH, NEXT ITEM, UH, ON THE AGENDA.
I BELIEVE MS. S IS HERE, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT THAT MIGHT OUGHT TABLE THAT, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE BEAR IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE LISTINGS.
AND I, UH, ALSO HAD A REQUEST, UH, FROM, UH, PEOPLE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL ONE UNTIL TWO.
SHALL I MAKE THAT MOTION? MOTION MADE TO TABLE THAT UNTIL JANUARY? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION.
UH, THIS WEEK WE BROUGHT IT UP, UH, IN OUR LAST MEETING AND, UH, WE DECIDED TO KIND OF REWORD THE WAY IT WAS ON THE AGENDA AND, UH, MAKE THE, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA'S KIND OF EXPLANATION OF ITSELF.
SO, DICK, YOU WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS, FURTHER COMMENTS? I THINK IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY UNLESS I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE THERE A MOTION? WHAT? WE AHEAD.
MOTION MADE BY MR. SECOND BY MR. SHANE.
VICKY, DID YOU BRING THAT? UH, KEN HAS IT.
UH, THE ORIGINAL MOTION ON THIS WAS FOR PERSONNEL THAT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, SAY ABOUT EARLY VOTING OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, MOTION THAT WE MADE BACK IN MAY.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT SAYS I THINK IT DID.
HAVE YOU GOT A COPY OF IT? YEAH, I'VE GOT A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL READ.
READ THE FIRST SENTENCE, UM, ISSUE A MOTION TO APPROVE INCREASES IN THE HOURLY RATE FOR EARLY VOTING PERSONNEL.
RAISED THAT FOR JUDGES $9 OWNING THE JUDGES $8 ELECTION DAY PER 10.
THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION WAS SHOULDA HAVE BEEN.
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PERSONNEL.THAT'S WHERE THE WHOLE PROBLEM WAS.
SOUNDS LIKE IT APPLIED TO ALL ELECTION PERSONNEL.
BUT WHAT, BUT, BUT THE POINT IS ON THE AGENDA, THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS WE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER INCREASING THE HOUR RATE FOR VOTING PERSON EARLY VOTING PERSONNEL.
NO, NO, IT DOESN'T SAY THERE'S NO ORDER.
WE COULD LOOK THE MINUTE, NOT THE MINUTE.
OH, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WAY THE ORDER WAS PASSED.
BUT, UH, HOW IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE FIRST HALF.
IT JUST SAYS VOTING PERSONNEL.
WELL, SO WHAT WE DID WITH THE, THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WE DID DOESN'T MATCH WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA TO BEGIN WITH.
SO YOU NEED TO ATE EARLY VOTING PERSONNEL.
OUR VOTING PERSONNEL, IT DOESN'T SAY ALL, IT SAYS INCREASINGLY ALL RATE OF VOTING PERSONNEL DIDN'T SAY WHICH VOTING PERSONNEL, BUT IT DOES IN LOWER.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE CONFUSION.
IS IT, DID YOU MEAN IT TO BE MEANT IT TO BE EARLY LAST MAY.
I MEANT IT TO BE EARLY PERSONNEL ONLY COUNTY EARLY JUDGES, ALTERNATES AND CLERKS, AND THEN COUNTY EMPLOYEES WORKING OVERTIME ON ELECTION DAY.
WELL, I THINK THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
THE WAY MATTER, IT DON'T MATTER NOW.
I MEAN, I JUST MAKE SURE IT'S WHY MATTER, THE WAY YOU GUYS PASSED IT IN MAY IN THE MINUTES BASICALLY WAS THE WAY WE WANTED IT WAS EXCEPTION OF LEAVING OUT THE WORD COUNTY.
THE COUNTY ELECTION DAY PERSONNEL.
THIS ONE CORRECT THE WHOLE THING FROM BEGINNING TO END.
AS FAR THIS AS THE PUBLIC IS EXPECTING, DOES EVERYBODY AGREE THAT THIS IS CORRECT THE WAY IT IS TODAY? NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WAS ON THERE BEFORE, BUT EARLY VOTING JUDGES $9 EARLY VOTING CLERKS, $8 ELECTION DAY JUDGES AND ALTERNATE JUDGES.
$9 ELECTION DAY CLERKS EIGHT AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES OVERTIME.
SO THAT IS THE WAY HE WANTED THE MOTION TO READ? YES.
NOW DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT BECAUSE OF OTHER WE CAN.
I HAVE SOME INDIGESTION OVER THE WORDING AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
COUNTY ELECTION EMPLOYEES OVERTIME ON ELECTION DAY AT 10 MM-HMM
OVERTIME IS GONNA BE TIME, TIME AND A HALF FOR WHATEVER THEY GET PAID.
WE PAY THE ELECTION EXPENSE SEPARATE FROM THE COUNTY REGULAR PAYROLL.
I'VE GOT TAX PEOPLE WORKING LATE ELECTION DAY.
THEY'RE GONNA BE PAID THIS $10 RATHER THAN TIME AND A HALF BASED ON THEIR COUNTY.
SO IT SO IT'S ACTUALLY A SEPARATE JOB.
IT'S NOT REALLY OVERTIME, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE WORKING.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT JOB.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
IF WE REMOVE THE WORD OVERTIME YEAH.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT CAUSES MAYBE A LITTLE MORE WELL THEN YOU'RE GONNA SAY YOU'RE GONNA PAY COUNTY EMPLOYEES $10 FOR ELECTION DAY, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ONLY FOR OVERTIME OVER EIGHT HOURS A DAY.
IF YOU WANT TO SAVE FOR ELECTION NIGHT, I CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT WHEN DOES NIGHT START? NOT THAT NIGHT DIDN'T START TILL SIX 16.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET PAID FROM FIVE OR SIX.
I THINK IT'S BETTER LOOK LIKE IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PAYROLL DEPARTMENT.
I I I THINK WE'RE CREATING A, I THINK WE'RE CREATING, IF SOMEBODY FILED A COMPLAINT SAYING, SAYS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO GET PAID OVERTIME, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY ARGUE THEY GET OVERTIME, BUT IT SAYS AT THE RATE OF $10 PER HOUR.
I I I THINK IT UM, SPELLS IT OUT PRETTY GOOD.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO DICK BRINGS ON BOARD TO WORK, THEY'RE GONNA KNOW EXACT DICK'S GONNA TELL THEM WHEN HE HIRES THEM TO WORK THAT DAY, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PAID
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FROM NOW THEY'LL, YEAH.WELL THERE'S NO DOUBT IT'S GOING TO SAVE US MONEY BECAUSE COUNTY DOESN'T REALLY PAY OVERTIME.
WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF IF THEY'RE JUST WORKING THEIR REGULAR JOB, THEY'RE GONNA BE GETTING COMP TIME FOR IT AND YOU KNOW, IF WE PAY THEM 10 AN HOUR, IT'S GONNA BE SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE BECAUSE YOU ADDED NOVEMBER THE OH SIX, IS THAT, IS THIS RETROACTIVE? IS THERE SOMEBODY GOING TO GET SOME MORE MONEY? YES SIR.
TO THE AMOUNT OF, TO THE AMOUNT? WELL NOT ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEES, BUT, UH, ELECTION JUDGES CLERK ON ELECTION DAY WILL RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL $2 AN HOUR.
AND THAT MONEY COME FROM HE'S GOT IT.
WE'LL MAKE IT WORK ACTUALLY TOO.
THE SCHOOLS AND CITIES THAT WE RAN WILL BE SHARING YOU HAPPY WITH THE WAY WE'VE NOW JUDGE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD IN THEIR CONTRACTS THAT, THAT THESE RATES WOULD APPLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED EITHER, BUT WE DID.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADVERTISE FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR BERTS.
UH, DUE TO THE HOLIDAYS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THIS BID ON, UH, JANUARY THE FIFTH AND FRIDAY AND OPEN ON, UH, MONDAY, JANUARY, JANUARY THE EIGHTH.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAIN.
UH, NEXT HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER PURCHASING TWO MAC TRUCKS THROUGH BUYBOARD FOR PRECINCT THREE WITH MAC REPURCHASE PROGRAM.
UH, JUDGE, THIS IS DECEMBER, UH, PROGRAM WE'VE BEEN USING IN THE PAST.
UH, THIS IS FOR TWO CV SEVEN 13, UH, WITH 1214 YARD
AND, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE, UH, WHAT WE DO MAC, UH, GUARANTEES VALUE TRUCK BACK LESS $6,000.
AND WHAT WE DO, WE PAY INTEREST ON THE TRUCKS FOR 14 MONTHS AND IT REALLY COMES TO, UH, ABOUT HALF THE COST PER MONTH FOR THESE TRUCKS THAT YOU GO OUT AND BUY.
I RECOMMEND WE MAKE THAT PURCHASE AND MR. SHANE MAKE THAT MOTION.
UM, WHAT IS, WHAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT'S THE MONTHLY, MONTHLY COST OF THAT PATENT? WELL, THE WAY I'VE GOT FIGURE COMMISSIONER FOUR SEVEN, YOU GOT 500 A MONTH.
I, I'VE GOT IT ABOUT 7 59 A MONTH.
YOU GOT $6,000, YOU GOT 5% INTEREST, WHICH IS WHAT I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE TO IS S 46.
31 TOTAL IS 10,000 6 31 DIVIDED BY 14 MONTHS, 7 59.
UH, IF YOU WERE TO FINANCE THAT TRUCK FOR 60 MONTHS BASED ON 5%, UH, YOUR PAYMENT WOULD BE 1740.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD COST YOU TO DRIVE A NICE CAR.
ORIGINAL TRUCK THAT WE DID COST US 37 AND HALF CENTS A MILE IS WHAT THE TRUCK COST US.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
THAT, AND SO THIS WILL UP A LITTLE BIT, NOT MAKE FIGURES ON THAT, BUT HE'S NOT 50 FOR TRUCK.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A ROUGH, PRETTY CLOSE FIGURE.
AND THE REAL SAVINGS ARE IN MAINTENANCE AND TIRES AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IN, IN A YEAR YOU'RE PUT NEW TIRES ON.
AND THE REASON MAC CAN DO THIS IS, IS ONE, TWO THINGS.
THEY SELL US A TRUCK ABOUT 8,000, 10,000 LESS THAN THEY DO TO A, UH, ROCK HAULER.
AND THEN WHEN THEY BUY THE TRUCK BACK FROM US, UH, AVERAGE 12 MONTHS OLD, UH, THE ROCK HAUL, WHOEVER USED IT DENIED TO PAY THE EXCESS TAX ABOUT 8%.
SO THAT'S HOW MATT CAN DO THIS.
AND WE DON'T WANT TELL EVERYBODY, WE DON'T WANT EVERYBODY GETTING OUR DEAL.
IT, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL, BUT I SOMETIMES YOU GOOD DEAL, DEAL.
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GET MY GUYS OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE MOTHER TRUCK.LAST TIME WE ALSO HAD LIKE DOLLARS MORE TO ADDITIONAL CORRUPTION, SO VERY GOOD.
HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I HAVE DISCUSSION CONSIDER INTO AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COUNTY TO SUPPLY ADDITIONAL REPAIR TO COUNTY ROAD TWO 13 AND PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.
THIS IS, THIS IS JUST AN AIR LOCAL, UH, WORK.
YEAH, THEY DECIDED THAT WE ALREADY DID ONE AND THEY WANTED TO ADD SOME MORE FEET.
SO WE WERE DOING A LITTLE MORE ON SAME THAN WE ALREADY DID.
BUT YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY HAD TO SAY, LOOK, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA AMEND THE AGREEMENT, WE'RE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEONARD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE A.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE RELET OF BLOCKS 14 AND 15 OF BLOCK A OF WOODRIDGE ESTATE SUBDIVISION IN PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.
UH, IS ANYBODY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT? ANYBODY HERE FROM WOODBRIDGE ESTATES? MR. HORTON CALLED A LITTLE BIT AGO AND HE'S ON HIS WAY.
IF YOU WANNA DELAY IT A LITTLE BIT, HE'LL BE HERE.
HE JUST HASNT, HE WAS UNAWARE THAT WE HAD COURT THIS MORNING AT NINE 30.
DO YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS? YES.
UM, IN WOODBRIDGE ESTATES, THE, UM, THERE WERE ACTUALLY TWO LOTS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL ONE OF THE TWO LOTS.
AND THEY HAD ACTUALLY BUILT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE ACROSS WHAT ON THE PLAT WAS A UTILITY EASEMENT, BUT IT'S NOT USED FOR ANYTHING.
IT, IT WAS JUST SET ASIDE AS A UTILITY EASEMENT.
AND UM, WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO IS JUST BASICALLY REMOVE THAT UTILITY EASEMENT.
IT DOESN'T SERVE ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT PROPERTY.
AND IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, UM, I HAD 'EM GO THROUGH AN ATTORNEY.
I HAD 'EM RUN IT BY OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND UH, I'M SURE, AND MR. HORTON IS, IS IS THE ATTORNEY.
SO Y'ALL, WE CAN EITHER PASS ON THIS OR, OR UM, WE CAN DO IT, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO, I'M FILING WAIVER FOR HIM TO, WE CAN ACT ON IT WHEN HE GETS YOU HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN EASEMENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
ONCE SUPPOSED TO BE EASEMENT, NEVER USED IT FOR ANYTHING, BUT THERE'S SOME SURVEY LEGAL WORK THAT MUST BE DONE.
HE'S SUPPOSED TO, HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE DRAWING AND EVERYTHING.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE IS CONSIDER APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLA FOR VILLE ACRES IN TON COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE, BONNIE.
AND THAT'S PART OF TON COUNTY, PART OF
AND, UH, AND, UH, THIS MORNING PULLING UP SIR, AND WHY DON'T YOU, UH, TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND, UH, YES, MY NAME IS CARTER CLARK.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR MR. WELDON GEORGE WHO'S THE DEVELOPER OWNER OF THE PROJECT.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT 26 LOTS IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UH, HALF OF IT IS IN VAN COUNTY.
UH, WE HAVE A SINGLE ROAD THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT THAT RUNS DOWN AND HAS A CUL SAC ON IT.
I BELIEVE, UH, MR. SHANE HAS A, A COPY OF THE LETTER FROM YOUR CONSULTANT, UH, SAYING THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS PRELIMINARY THAT OUR ENGINEERS SIGNED OFF ON IT ALSO.
NOW ARE YOU
UH, DID YOU FOLLOW THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS OF OF OF, OF ANY ONE PARTICULAR COUNTY FOR THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION OR DID YOU WHAT'S IN VAN Z COUNTY FOLLOW VAN Z COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGS AND WHAT'S IN KAUFMAN COUNTY? FOLLOW KAUFMAN COUNTY RES AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD AS FAR AS TRUCTURE
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ROAD, THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND YES, WE MET THE MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS CALLED OKAY.YEAH, THEY THEY PUT IT IN FOR THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION.
THEIR REQUIREMENTS DO NOT REQUIRE THAT THERE BE AN ACRE EXCLUSIVE OF EASEMENTS.
THERE ARE SOME DRAINAGE EASEMENTS ON THE COUNTY PORTION THAT WE FOLLOWED THAT RULE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IF, IF YOU THE TIRES ALL THE WAY, BUT YOU MODIFIED THEM OVER IN VAN COUNTY.
HAVE YOU GOT, UM, ALL THE LETTERS? THEY'RE ALL ATTACHED PERMISSION.
JUDGE, DO YOU WANT, IF YOU, UH, I'VE GOT THAT'S YOUR ORIGINAL AND I'LL HAVE ONE OF THESE NEXT WEEK, THE ROCKWALL COUNTY LINE AND I, I TALKED WITH JACK AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND HE SAID THAT THEY HAVE SOFTWARE THAT LITERALLY DIVIDES HOW MUCH OF THE LOT, HOW MUCH OF THE HOUSE IS IN EACH COUNTY AND SPLITS IT UP.
BUT YOU KNOW, UH, THE ONE I'VE GOT COMING LITERALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU BUILD ON LOTS WITHOUT PUTTING THE HOUSE RIGHT ON.
I TELL Y'ALL ABOUT THE TIME, I DID A DIVORCE ONE TIME AND THE HOUSE WAS ON THE COUNTY HOFFMAN AND HUNT COUNTY.
SO WE WERE IN A DILEMMA ON WHETHER IT SHOULD BE FILED IN KAUFMAN COUNTY OR HUNT COUNTY.
SO I FIGURED WHERE THE BEDROOM WAS WAS WHERE THE PEOPLE SPENT MOST OF THEIR TIME.
AT LEAST THEY WEREN'T SLEEPING IN SEPARATE BEDROOMS.
SO WE FILED IT IN, IN KAMAN COUNTY BECAUSE THE, I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER.
ALL EVERYBODY SIGNED OFF FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO OUR ENGINEER.
I ALSO HAVE HERE SEVERAL COPIES OF THE LATEST PLAT AFTER MINOR REVISIONS THAT WERE APPROVED THAT ARE SIGNED BY THE, HOPEFULLY WE
THE REMAINDER OF IT GOES INTO
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A LETTER FROM A WATER COMPANY.
EVER SEE HIM THAT THEY'RE GONNA SERVICE THE WATER NEEDS FOR THE PROPERTY PROPERTY.
NORMALLY THE LETTER TELLS US HOW MANY METERS THEY'RE GOING INSTALL.
SEE WHICH ONE IS THAT JUDGE IN THERE.
AND THIS IS ME TIL DISTRICT AND IT'S NOT FROM THE WATER COMPANY.
I JUST POINT THAT OUT THAT I STILL DON'T HAVE A LETTER FROM THE WATER COMPANY.
WHAT WATER COMPANY WILL BE SERVICING? I MEAN, THEY OWN THEIR OWN WATER COMPANY.
IT'S NOT JUST THE, BECAUSE THIS, THIS SAYS MCEE, UH, MCEE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
SO THE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT OWNS THEIR OWN WATER COMPANY? YES.
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THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGMENT ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM ARE GONNA BEGON HOW MUCH AREA? YEAH.TELL THEM TO PUT THE BEDROOM IN THE COUNTY.
AND ALSO HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA VOTE.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHICH COUNTY THEY'RE VOTE IN THEIR HOUSE HAS IN BOTH, BOTH COUNTIES.
I WOULD IMAGINE THEY CAN REGISTER IN WHICHEVER COUNTY AND VOTE THEY REGISTER IN BOTH.
JAIL SHOWS UP, DOESN'T IT? OKAY.
KENNETH, THAT'S YOUR MOTION? YES.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN IN PRECINCT NUMBER THREE IN COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.
SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
UH, NEXT I DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE PRELIMINARY FOR WITH IN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING LES WARE, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND UH, WE, WE'VE GOT, UH, I BELIEVE Y'ALL HAVE COPIES OF THE PLAT.
WE'VE GOT OUR WATER LETTER OR A LETTER FROM COUNTY'S ENGINEER, PB, S AND J.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S
ALRIGHT, WE SIX BUT KENS OFF NOTHING.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU DON'T MIND.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU STILL, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS OR DID YOU GET ONE PUBLIC WORKS WITH THE COUNTY, RIGHT? UH, I I I DO NOT.
VICKY CALLED, VICKY TOLD ME THAT KATHY SAID SHE WAS OKAY WITH IT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LETTER.
OH, FOR THE, FOR THE ADDRESSES CORRECT.
THAT WE, WE CALLED UM, DANNY NEWTON.
HE SAID HE WOULDN'T ACCEPT PLATS UNTIL AFTER THE PRELIMINARY APPROVED.
AND, AND SAID SYSTEM ALL THE ARE ONE NET ACRE NET OF EASTWOODS.
THIS NO, THIS IS ON THE OTHER CUL GOING IN UP TO 13 9 2 FROM CARROLL.
IT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN TWO FIVE AND 13 9 2, WHICH, YOU KNOW, LEADS TO, YOU KNOW, THE SAME QUESTION I ASK EVERY DEVELOPER THAT PRESENTS A LIKE COUNTY ROAD.
WHAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S A ROCK ROAD.
WHAT? DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY PLANS TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE ROCK ROAD? UH, WE DON'T AT THIS TIME.
IS THIS WEST OF, UH, 2 0 5, WEST OF 1392? YEAH, IT'S BETWEEN 1392 AND 5 48 RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
I DUNNO IF YOU, THERE'S A, THERE'S A VICINITY MAP ON THE, PUT THAT OVER HERE, BUT 1392 IS THAT LITTLE FARM MARKET ROAD THAT ROADS BETWEEN LAWRENCE AND 2 0 5 AND THEN TIES AND THIS IS WEST OF THERE AND THIS IS WEST OF THERE.
BUT IT IS BEFORE YOU GET TO 5 48 IF YOU CONTINUE WEST OUT WHERE THAT LITTLE AIRPORT IS.
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1398.AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IS AWFULLY FARS.
THERE'S NOT VERY MANY HOUSES, UH, OUT THERE AND UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REASON FOR THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT PAVING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT, AND THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED THE QUESTION IS ONCE YOU PUT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE ON A ROAD AND YOU KNOW WHO, WHO'S GONNA UPGRADE, UH, COURT, THE LETTERS END UP AND I HAD, UH, A COUPLE OF COPIES TO SUBMIT ALL THAT, THE ORIGINAL, I'VE GOT 'EM RIGHT HERE.
DO YOU NEED THOSE? YEAH, WELL I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OH YES.
ALRIGHT, WELL I NEED A COPY
AND, AND I DO WANT SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE VICKY BECAUSE, UH, TRISHA HAS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN OUT, UH, SINCE SHE WALKED AWAY PRETTY MUCH STEPPED UP AND HANDLED A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
DON'T WANNA SAY TOO MUCH BECAUSE SHE'LL BE MORE MONEY RAISE.
I DON'T THINK WATER COMPANIES ARE LOOKING AT THEIR RESERVES AND, AND, AND THEIR FUTURE WATER SUPPLY.
THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT, BECAUSE EVERY MEETING I GO TO IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, EVERYBODY SAYS THAT IN, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 20 YEARS WE'RE GONNA BE OUT WATER OTHER 20 MONTHS DOESN'T RAIN.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE AND YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE RESEARCHED IT, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PROPOSE A SUBDIVISION ON, ON, ON A ROCK ROAD, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO SAY NO.
BUT I I, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THAT ROAD AND I REALLY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, SAMUEL FARM, IF THEY SHORTCUT TO GO TO TERRELL LAWRENCE AREA, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A WOODEN BRIDGE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S JUST NOT GONNA STAND UP TO A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC.
UH, LAST WEEK, UH, WE WENT TO A SUBDIVISION SEMINAR WITH CONFERENCE COUNTIES AND THEY'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, UH, DEVELOPERS AND, AND GETTING THINGS LINED UP FOR THIS LEGISLATIVE AND THERE WAS A LIST OF THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD AGREE TO WITHOUT ARGUMENT, AND THERE WAS A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE GONNA ARGUE AGAINST.
ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS THAT THEY, THEY WOULD ARGUE AGAINST THE LAW THAT WOULD REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO WORK ON A COUNTY ROAD GOING THEIR SUBDIVISION.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING POINT OUT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SUBDIVISION WITH CONCRETE ROADS IN IT AND THE ROCK ROADS RUNNING UP TO IT, BUT THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T AGREE TO ANYTHING THAT THAT WOULD'VE TO DO SOMETHING.
THE DEVELOPER COULD VOLUNTARILY WORK ON THAT IF WE WANTED TO.
THEY WOULD OBJECT TO THE COUNTY REQUIREMENT.
SO, AND, AND OUR DILEMMAS IS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE MOVE INTO IT AND THEN THE COUNTY GOES AND IMPROVES THAT ROAD.
YOU HAVE UMPTEEN PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WHO SAY, WE'VE LIVED HERE 20 YEARS WAITING FOR OUR COUNTY TO UP BE UPGRADED.
WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU UPGRADING
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ROADS FOR DEVELOPERS? YEP.OKAY, WELL LET'S GO BACK TO THE ONE AT HAND.
COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER TWO, PRELIMINARY FLAT MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLA OF CALL OF UH, ADDITION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE MOTIONS.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE EXPENSIVE.
AND I, I'VE ONLY TALKED TO MR. HORTON, SO HE SHOWS UP, I DUNNO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
I THOUGHT I'D BETTER BRING IT UP.
UH, WE WE, WE CAME TO THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND NOBODY SPOKE UP.
SO WE JUST SAID, WELL I GUESS WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT TODAY.
BUT THEN SOMEBODY POINTED OUT THAT YOU CALLED AND THAT YOU WERE ON YOUR WAY.
SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND LET YOU GIVE YOUR SPIEL ANYWAY.
SO IT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO PRESENT YOURSELF.
I VERY MUCH APOLOGIZE FOR, UH, OUR FAILURE.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INDULGING ME.
I'M AN ATTORNEY OF AN OFFICE IN PETE IN ROCKWELL COUNTY.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING PHILLIP AND LISA KINLIN, WHO ARE OWNERS OF BLOCK 15 IN WOODBRIDGE ESTATES.
WOODBRIDGE UH, ESTATES IS A PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION AS YOU GENERALLY PROBABLY KNOW, UH, BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.
UM, I'M ALSO HERE WITH THE CONSENT OF THE OWNER'S LOT 14.
AND THE REQUEST I HAVE RELATES ONLY TO THOSE TWO LOTS, LOTS 14 AND 15.
UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR AN AMENDED CLASH ONLY FOR TWO REASONS TO DOCUMENT WHAT THESE, UH, TWO FOLKS NOW AGREE IS THEIR BOUNDARY LINE AND ALSO TO MOVE OVER AN EASEMENT A FEW FEET SO THAT DOESN'T, UM, ENCROACH ON A HOUSE.
LEMME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND.
MR. KINLIN OWNED BOTH LOTS INTENDED TO STAY THERE FOREVER, UM, THROUGH CONFUSION ON HIS PART OR, OR POSSIBLY, UH, WHAT HE WAS LED TO BELIEVE AT THAT TIME.
SEVERAL YEARS BACK, HE THOUGHT THE LOTS HAD BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE.
UM, SO HIS BUILDER, UM, AT, AT HIS BUILDER'S DIRECTION ON 'CAUSE LOT 15 IS KIND OF THERE IN LOT 14 IS WIDER.
HE BUILT HIS HOUSE, BUT IT ENCROACHED OVER, UH, THE EASEMENT BY A FEW FEET.
WASN'T A PROBLEM IN HIS MIND BECAUSE THE EASEMENT HAD NEVER BEEN USED.
HIS KNOWLEDGE, IT WAS SIMPLY ONE OF THE RESERVED EASEMENTS, UH, AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE LOT LINES THAT THE, UH, BE DID AT THE TIME OF PRESENTING THE PLA.
UM, MR. UH, LIN HAD A STROKE, UM, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, SOME OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES HAS NEEDED TO SELL HIS PROPERTY.
SO HE HAS A CONTRACT TO SELL LOT 15 HAS ALREADY SOLD LOT 14, BUT THE BUYER, WHEN HE LOOKED AT THE PLA SAID, WELL, HEY, YOU'VE GOT EASEMENT THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE BY A FEW FEET.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE.
UH, WE'RE NOT DOING AWAY WITH THE EASEMENT.
WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING THAT THE EASEMENT BE MOVED OVER SO IT'S NO LONGER UNDER THE HOUSE.
UM, AND TO DOCUMENT BETWEEN LOT 14 AND 15 WHERE EXACTLY THAT BOUNDARY IS.
AND I DO HAVE, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING FULL SCALE, I'M SORRY TO BE TALKING WHILE I DIDN'T LET YOU LOOK AT THESE.
MAY WE CAN PUT OUR GLASSES ON.
THIS IS, IS THIS A POA OR HOA? NO, IT'S NOT.
WELL, THEY MAY HAVE A HOMEOWNER AND HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION HAS THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES, GIVEN A FIRST ENDORSEMENT ON THIS.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT HONESTLY.
I I CAME INTO THE, THE EQUATION RELATIVELY RECENTLY AND 'CAUSE PENDING CONTRACT, WE JUMPED RIGHT ON JIM COUNTY APPROVAL.
UM, BUT THERE'S ONLY 17 HOMES IN THE, IN THE ENTIRE MENT.
AND THEN, BUT POA IS REALLY KIND OF TOUCHING WHEN IT STARTS MIS SANDBOX.
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YES, SIR.I UNDERSTAND YOUR, I DO REPRESENT A NUMBER OF HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS AND RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CHECK OUT.
I WILL SAY WE'RE NOT BOTH LOTS REMAIN OVER ONE ACRE.
UM, FROM AN APPEARANCE STANDPOINT, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE NOT GIVING OR TAKING, ALL WE'RE DOING IS PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMING THAT BOUNDARY LINE AND MOVING THAT EASEMENT.
I WISHED I WOULD ASK THE SURVEYOR.
I THINK WE'RE MOVING THAT EASEMENT MAYBE FIVE, 10 FEET OVER.
THIS IS THE THING THAT, THAT, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR.
UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, I'VE SEEN THE TITLE REPORT.
THERE'S NO RECORDED EASEMENT OTHER THAN WHAT WAS RESERVED ON THE PLAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NO UTILITY WHO'S REPORTING ANYTHING.
THERE WAS NEVER ANY GRANT TO A UTILITY.
IN OTHER WORDS, NOBODY EVER SAID, LISTEN, TSU, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THIS.
AND UM, AS FAR AS THE SURVEYOR BASED ON THE SURVEY, BASED ON MR. LIN'S KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NO USE OF THESE.
SO IT'S JUST THE PLATTED ITSELF.
IT'S JUST THE PLATTED RESERVATION.
I THOUGHT ABOUT COMING AND ASKING YOU TO LET US ABANDON IT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY REALLY LIKE.
BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE MORE PALATABLE IF WE JUST SAID, WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT OVER.
NOW, CAN YOU SAY THERE'S 17 OTHER LOTS IN THIS, THAT'S, HOW DO THESE 17 OTHER PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT IT? HAVE YOU GOTTA TALK TO THEM? HAVE YOU GOT WAIVERS FROM THEM OR ANYTHING? WE HAVE NOT.
AND, AND I REGRET IF MR. KINLIN IS ON HIS WAY AS WELL.
UH, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO SIR, I HAVE NOT GONE TO THEM AND, AND ASKED IT CONSENT.
IS IT NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, REDO A PLA, UH, IN ANY WAY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN THAT, IN THAT SUBDIVISION? NOT, NOT NECESSARILY.
IT DEPENDS ON THE RESTRICTIONS.
THE SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS AT HAND.
AND THE HONEST ANSWER TO THAT IS I'VE NOT REVIEWED THEM.
AND CERTAINLY I WOULD ADVISE MR. KINLIN TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ARE, UM, AS WELL.
BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE E LET'S ASSUME WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT IT REQUIRED HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION APPROVAL.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GONNA SAY IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE COUNTY APPROVAL TO THIS? I I THINK THOSE ARE FREESTANDING REQUIREMENTS, ALTHOUGH I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE WELL TAKEN THAT WE SHOULD, UH, REVIEW THE RESTRICTED COVENANTS AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T NEED SOME TYPE OF HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION APPROVAL.
WELL, NOT ONLY RESTRICTED COVENANTS, BUT THE LAW OF OBTAIN OF SUBDIVISIONS IS THERE NOT A PROVISION WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, MODIFY A ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN IN ANY WAY? YOU HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION FROM EVERYONE WHO'S BOUGHT LAND IN THAT SUBDIVISION.
I DON'T BELIEVE, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
I DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF PRACTICE IN THIS AREA, AND I'M NOT REQUIRED OF A FREE STANDING REQUIREMENT.
WHEN MR. UH, AND SCURRY THERE, WHAT'S HIS NAME? UH, HILL HILL, DARL HILL.
HE WANTED TO REPLAY AND HE HAD SIGNATURE THERE.
THE REQUIREMENT, STATUTE REQUIREMENT SIGNATURE OF EVERYBODY AT PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.
YEAH, BUT THAT WAS, I MEAN, THAT WASN'T MOVING OVER AN EASEMENT, BUT, BUT THE STATUE WAS STILL APPLY.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANY LANDOWNER OUT THERE WOULD OBJECT TO THIS, NOR DO I.
UM, AND IT MAY BE THAT IF I HAD, UH, DONE A LITTLE MORE HOMEWORK, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE'S ALREADY SPOKEN TO HIS NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT HE HASN'T, UH, THE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE I WAS BROUGHT IN ON WAS GETTING IT APPROVED BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU FOR A REPL, UM, TO ADEQUATELY DOCUMENT IT.
WELL, JUDGE, I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, WOULD IT CAUSE IT A LOT OF HARDSHIP IF WE TABLE IT TODAY, PUT IT ON BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK AND JUST GO, GO GET PETITION FROM THE, FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER? YEAH.
WE, WE DO NOT OBJECT TO, UM, THE REFL OF, UH, WOODBRIDGE ESTATE AS PROPOSED OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
JUDGE, UM, IF I CAN, THERE'S TWO, TWO REASONS THAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO NOT DO THAT.
AND THE FIRST IS, WE'VE GOT A PENDING CONTRACT.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, UH, WE'VE RUSHED THIS IN HERE IS NOBODY RECOGNIZES NEED UNTIL IT CAME TO MY DESK.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA LOSE THAT SALE.
AND MR. KINLIN HAS SUFFERED A STROKE.
THEY DO HAVE SOME DIFFICULTIES AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO NOT LOSE THE SALE.
SECONDLY, UM, I, AS I STATED, I DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF PRACTICE IN THIS AREA, PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH PROPERTY CODE PROVISION APPLY TO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.
IF WHAT I'D HATE TO DO IS SUGGEST A REQUIREMENT ON MR. KINLIN THAT'S NOT IMPOSED BY LAW.
IF HIS RESTRICTIONS ACTUALLY PROVIDE,
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UH, FOR HOMEOWNER APPROVAL, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION APPROVAL ON THIS TYPE OF CHANGE, I WOULD AGREE WE WE'D BE HAPPY TO, TO PURSUE THAT AND, AND COMPLY.BUT IF THEY DON'T, UM, THAT COULD CREATE A PRETTY HEAVY BURDEN ON HIM.
I DON'T KNOW THESE INDIVIDUALS AT ALL, BUT IN MY PRACTICE, I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT APPROVAL FROM A HOMEOWNER'S GROUP ON ANYTHING.
UM, JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, TEND TO THEIR OWN BUSINESS, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT THEY MAY BE AGREEING TO.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THE LAW DOES WELL, I I DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THE LAW DOES E EVEN WITHOUT IT BEING IN THE RESTRICTIONS.
I WHAT'S THE DATE ON THE SUBDIVISION? WHAT WAS THE DATE? HOW OLD WAS THE SUBDIVISION? 80 EIGHTIES? YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS 81 OR 81 OR TWO.
I WHAT, WHAT THAT SUBDIVISION SAYS.
UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH UP MR. LEONARD CONTINGENT OF BOND POA APPROVAL OR HOMEOWNER'S APPROVAL THAT WE PASS IT.
WELL, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I I, WHEN I SAID I THINK THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, BUT I WOULD ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU IF THERE IS ONE ON PAPER, THERE'S NOT ONE IN, NOT ONE IN ACTUAL, IN ACTUALITY, BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE, BUT JUDGE, YOU THINK THIS IS A, A LAW.
ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU APPROVE A PLAT AND SOMEONE, YOU START SELLING LOTS, IF SOMEONE BUYS A LOT BASED UPON THE FLAT THAT THEY SAW WHEN THEY BOUGHT TO THE PROPERTY, THEN IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AND THEN YOU WANT TO FILE A REFL, I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE PERMISSION FROM EVERYONE WHO'S BOUGHT A LOT IN ORDER TO REFL THAT SUBDIVISION.
NOW ALL I, I AGREE THAT THIS RIGHT HERE IS VERY MINOR DON, AND IT ONLY AFFECTS TWO PEOPLE, IT APPEARS.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT MUCH OF A PROBLEM GETTING PERMISSION FROM THE OTHER LANDOWNERS.
BUT UNLESS I'M SHOWN, SHOWN SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE LAW, I THINK THAT'S THE LAW JUDGE.
I WOULD MAKE ONE, ONE OTHER PIECE OF INPUT.
I I DO AGREE THAT EVERY HOMEOWNER IN A SUBDIVISION HAS THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THE RESTRICTIONS AND OR THE REPRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE ACCORDING TO A COMMON SCHEME WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED.
SO CLEARLY I THINK ANYBODY WHO BOUGHT IN THIS SUBDIVISION BASED ON, HEY, HERE'S THE PICTURE, HERE'S, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A DRAWING OF HOW WE'RE LAYING THIS STUFF OUT.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN AND ENFORCE ANY RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE REPRESENTED.
UM, SO IN, IN THAT REGARD, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MAY BE CONTEMPLATING.
IT'S THE NEXT STEP THAT I DON'T, THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF, IS ANY REQUIREMENT THAT ANY, ANY AMENDMENT THAT'S NOT DOCUMENTED IN A RESTRICTION, JUST ANY AMENDMENT OF THE PLAT IN GENERAL, WOULD REQUIRE MORE SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
WHEN YOU SAY, NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION'S APPROVAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNER THAT BOUGHT A LOT IN THAT SUBDIVISION.
AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S THE LAW? I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAW JUDGE ON ON, UNLESS IT'S DOCUMENTED IN A RESTRICTION.
NOW IF IT'S DOCUMENTED IN A RESTRICTION, THEN I THINK EVERY HOMEOWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THAT RESTRICTION.
I THINK THAT'S CLEARLY THE LAW.
BUT THE, IF IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE RESTRICTION, IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS DON'T SAY WE REQUIRE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION APPROVAL OF A CHANGE OF LAW BOUNDARIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN I DON'T THINK THERE'S A GENERAL OBLIGATION OF ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO AMEND THEIR, THEIR LAW TO, TO GO OUT AND GET HOMEOWNER APPROVAL.
OKAY, WELL, LEMME ASK YOU THAT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WHY WOULD YOU NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THESE TWO LANDOWNERS? WELL, YOU JUST DRAW AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM.
BUT OUT OF RESPECT FOR WHAT I THINK THE PLATING REQUIREMENTS ARE SINCE, SINCE THIS IS A RECORDED PLAT MM-HMM
AND ON THE RECORDED PLAT, IT SHOWS THE RESERVATION OF THE EASEMENT.
I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND SAY, WE WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSENT TO MODIFY THE PLAT SO THAT THE EASEMENT DOESN'T ALLOW IN THE HOUSE.
BUT YOU'RE NOT ONLY MODIFYING THE EASEMENT, YOU'RE MODIFYING THE BOUNDARY LINE BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS.
I ARE YOU NOT, WE'RE WE'RE DOCUMENTING THAT THAT ADDS A LITTLE TO THE EQUATION.
WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IN FACT HAPPENED IS, IS THE PARTIES DID UN NOT KNOWING THAT THEY OUGHT TO COME BACK IN FOR A RELA, UH, THIS LOT 14 WAS CONVEYED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS, NOT EXACTLY ACCORDING TO THE PLAT.
SO THE LITTLE NOTCH OUTS YOU, YOU SEE THERE WAS NOT
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CONVEYED TO THE LOT 14 OWNER.SO THE LOT 14 OWNER AND LOT 15 OWNER AGREE ON WHERE THEIR BOUNDARY IS.
SO WHAT I'M BASICALLY ASKING YOU TO DO BY PROVING THIS PLAT IS JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED AND IN ADDITION, MOVE THAT EASEMENT OVER.
UM, JUDGE, UH, I HAVE, I HAVE A MOTION AND IT'S A COMPROMISE.
IT'S MAYBE A WAY TO CUT THE BABY IN HALF WITHOUT KILLING THE BABY
BUT, UH, UH, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE, THERE MAY BE DISAGREEMENT WHETHER IT'S A, A STATE REQUIREMENT OR NOT, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT COMMISSIONERS DIDN'T CREATE THE SITUATION AND AND WE'RE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO FIX IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE DON'T, I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, THAT FORCES US TO, TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
I MEAN, LITERALLY, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, BUT WE CAN, UH, IF WE DO ACT, WE DO HAVE EVERY RIGHT IN THE WORLD TO OFFER, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
AND I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO JUST TO ASK THAT WE, LIKE I SUGGESTED BEFORE WE, WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, WE SEE IF Y'ALL CAN GET SIGNATURES OF ALL OF THE, OF ALL THE HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION.
AND IF YOU CAN, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM AND THAT, I MEAN THAT THAT'S JUST GONNA DELAY IT ONE WEEK.
I, I APPRECIATE THE COMPROMISE, UH, COMMISSIONER LEONARD.
AND, AND I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US IN, IN PREFERENCE OF A DENIAL.
UM, I, I'M CONCERNED IN MY PERSONAL PRACTICE OF WORKING WITH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING EVERYBODY IN THE SUBDIVISION TO AGREE TO JUST EVEN CATCH 'EM AT HOME, LET ALONE GIVE 'EM TO AGREE, MIGHT BE A HURDLE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO OVERCOME.
WELL, MY DILEMMA IS I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, I CAN'T REMEMBER US EVER DOING THIS BEFORE.
AND THE COUNTY JUDGE IS, IS AN ATTORNEY AND I WOULD CERTAINLY DEFER TO HIS KNOWLEDGE OF LAW RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, FLY BY THE SEAT OF MY PANTS AND DECIDE TO DO IT AFTER, UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE JUDGE WHO IS AN ATTORNEY SAYS HE DOESN'T THINK WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE IT AND, UH, UH, PUT IT ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.
AND, UH, IF, IF, AND IF, IF YOU CAN GET THE 17TH SIGNATURES, UH, OF HOMEOWNERS IN THE SUBDIVISION, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
IF YOU SHOW US THE LAW
BUT I THINK THAT UNLESS THIS CHANGED, I THINK THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT, THAT THAT'S STILL A STANDING LAW.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT WITH MR. HILL.
THAT ISSUE WAS VERY CLEAR AND WE WENT RECENTLY WENT THROUGH WITH IT.
AND ONE IN JERRY'S SUBDIVISION, HIS NAME WAS HIL NO HALL, HIS NAME WAS HALL, I BELIEVE.
BUT HE WENT AND GOT PERMISSION FROM EVERYBODY IN THERE, HE LOT, UH, TO GIVE, UH, THE ONES BEHIND THEM BETTER ACCESS.
AND HE WENT, GOT EVERYBODY'S PERMISSION IN WRITING.
THAT THEY DIDN'T OBJECT TO THE REPLAYABLE.
THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT THERE IN HERE IS THAT THAT DIDN'T CHANGE.
THAT THIS DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE TO THE LOTS.
YOU'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET THAT BORDER, THAT BOUNDARY LINE STRAIGHT DOWN IN THERE, BUT IT CREATES A WHOLE NOTHER SET OF PROBLEMS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IN THE FUTURE WHAT THAT EASEMENT IS GOING TO MEAN.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T, I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO THINK OF ALL THE SCENARIOS AND ELIMINATE ALL OF 'EM THAT THAT EASEMENT WILL NEVER BE USED IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE ASKED SIMPLY TO MOVE IT AS OPPOSED TO ABANDON IT.
UM, IT'S BEEN 20 SOMETHING YEARS THAT HASN'T BEEN USED.
AND THERE'S, IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORDED PLAT, THERE ARE EASEMENTS THAT TRACK MOST OF THE LOT LINES.
SO, UM, I THINK THE UTILITIES HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUPPLIED THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT IT.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING TO MOVE IT AS OPPOSED TO ABANDONMENT.
AND LIKE I SAID, I, I CAN'T CONCEIVE OF ANYBODY IN THAT SUBDIVISION OBJECTING TO, BUT, BUT I, I, I QUESTIONED THE AUTHORITY OF THE COURT TO JUST JUMP OUT THERE AND APPROVE A REFL WHEN YOU CALL IT A REFL, YOU KNOW, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE, UH, CE OF THE OTHER LANDOWNERS IN THAT SUBDIVISION.
SO MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO TABLE.
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COMMISSIONER? UH, SHANE SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.AND THAT'LL GIVE US, UH, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO FINDING THE LAW OR WE'RE WRONG OR GET'S PERMISSION AND COME BACK AND WE'LL DO, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS COURT.
IF YOU DO LIKE, LIKE THE JUDGE MENTIONED, I THINK THIS COURT PROBABLY WILL.
AND, AND WHEN THE, AND THE MINOR DEAL THAT YOU'RE ASKING, I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY IN THERE OBJECTING TO IT.
JERRY, WE HAVE, UH, DALLAS CROWN REPORT THAT REFLECTS, UM, TOTAL ANIMALS PROCESS 308 FOR THE WEEKEND ENDING NOVEMBER 23RD.
COUNCIL, I'D LIKE FOR THIS COURT TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS REPORT.
I GOT ALL THE NEIGHBORING PEOPLE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT.
IS THERE A SECOND ON IT? SECOND.
NO, SIR, WE DON'T PASSED ON OUR BILLS TOO.
DID NICHOLAS ENJOY THE PARADE? TAKE BACK TO CAR.
SO SHE SAW US AND SO SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD CATCH US, BUT SHE DIDN'T REALIZE SHE WAS DRAGGING.
SO THEY, THEY CHASED US DOWN ABOUT HUNDRED YARD.
BUT THEY DID CATCHES ALL I PHONE.
NO, WELL, UNLESS THEY CALLED OFFICE.
UH, I GOT A LETTER FROM OR FROM SOMETHING.
I THINK WHEN THEY SENT ME THE LETTER, EVERYBODY.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S IN DALLAS.
WE GET EVERYBODY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY TAKE ON.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT HAPPENED IS THE COUNTY DIDN'T DO IT.
WE'VE NEVER MAINTAINED IT, BUT THE CITY OF SUNNYVALE, IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO SAID THAT THEY DID A SURVEY AND DETERMINED THAT IT WAS IN BOTTON COUNTY.
WHAT THE WAY IT WAS MAINTAINED BEFORE IS I THINK SUNNYVALE WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE HAD
SO SUNNYVALE DID A SURVEY AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD DETERMINED THAT IT WASN'T, I BASICALLY SAID
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THE ROAD IS IN THE COUNTY DOES NOT MAKE, AND I PUT TOGETHER A MEETING WITH SUNNYVALE, DALLAS COUNTY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.WE'LL BE LYNCHED IF WE GO SPEND 200,000 ON BOSTON ROAD, IF WE HAVE NOBODY THAT LIVES ON, UH, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS EITHER SUNNYVALE OR MESQUITE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND ANNEX IT AND START GOING TOWN.
SO MESQUITE SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ANNEX IT.
AND THE COMMISSIONER OVER THERE, HE EVIDENTLY PUT PRESSURE ON HIM ALSO BECAUSE HE QUESTIONED ME BY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONER.
SO I HAVE CONSISTENTLY FILED IT IN UNDER NOP, NOT OUR HAVE TICKETS ON YOUR BIRTHDAY.
YOUR BIRTHDAY, ME AND THE BE TAILGATING MILESTONE SIGN UP FOR SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE PART A MY LIFE.
I I DIDN'T SLEEP WELL IN BE CHRISTMAS DAY.
SIGN UP PART A, OTHERWISE YOU DO SIGN UP.
YOU'LL BE, YOU'RE AT THE COURTHOUSE HERE ON THE, UH, SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY EVERY MONTH FROM IT.
THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH.
I HAD, I HAD, WHEN THEY'RE NOT HERE, THEY'RE NOT HERE ON THE SECOND
WHERE AT COURT? WELL, LAST YEAR I TURNED 51, JUST I'LL FIND OUT.
I STARTED GETTING FLOODED WITH A A P MAIL.
NO, THE SECOND WILL BE NEXT WEEK.
SEE, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARY SINCE YOU'RE STILL COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND YOU'RE STILL GOING EVERYTHING.
AND UH, I WAS TALKING TO DON
TINA'S BEEN PUTTING PRESSURE ON ME.
SO WHEN I WENT DOWN AND SHE SAID, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD THING YOU DID, BUT OTHERWISE YOU COULD BE PENALIZED WHEN YOU DO RETIRE, YOU START GROWING THAT, NOT START GROWING OUT, BE PENALIZED ON YOUR HOSPITALIZATION COVERAGE.
IT'S THE SAME DEAL WITH SOCIAL SECURITY, THE, I, EVERYBODY ELSE, THE PERSON, WHEN YOU CALL THE PERSON WHO IS LOWEST PAID PERSON.
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YEAH, THAT'S, WE TURNED, WE TOOK, SHE GOT OLDER BROTHER AND MAY OF SIX IN 1960.I REMEMBER MY COUSIN BRINGING HOME A NEW RECORD AND WE PLAYED ALL NIGHT LONG ROCK AROUND THE BILL HALEY, THAT WAS 59.
SEE THAT RECORD CAME OUT IN 50.
I SAW SUNDAY MORNING WHEN I A MOVIE CALLED SANTA FE.
EVERYBODY'S MOVED IN OUT THERE TODAY.
I'M GONNA GO OUT THERE THIS AFTERNOON.
THEY'RE STILL GETTING STUFF ALIVE, BUT THEY'RE CHECK WENT OUT THERE, FIX IT.
A INVESTIGATOR KIND OF CHRISTMAS TREE.
HERE'S A GOOD TRICKY QUESTION.
WHAT WAS STER WEARING? HE DIED.
HE WAS, I MEAN, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT ASSUMED HE, HE WAS A LIEUTENANT CARPENTER.
WAS IT REALLY? IT GOT BUSTED DONE.
WELL, NO, HE JUST HAD A BREAD COMMISSION THAT WAS ONLY DURING THE WAR.
A LOT OF IN THAT MOVIE HAD ALL THESE CHARACTERS, LONG STREET, HOOD AND ALL OF THE GENERALS FROM THEY WERE ALL IN WEST POINT.
AND THEY SHOWED AGAIN WHEN THEY JUST GRADUATED FROM WEST POINT.
AND, UH, THAT'S NOT, SHE WORE A YELLOW ROOF.
AND, AND SO THEY, THERE WAS THIS INDIAN, THEY WERE JUST DANCING PARTY IN, SOMEBODY SPOKE ABOUT THIS INDIAN LADY COULD TELL THE, SO THEY, THEY GO AROUND THERE AND SHE STARTS TELLING THE FUTURE AND SHE, THEY GOT THIS LATEST PIECE, INDIAN LANGUAGE SHE WAS SPEAKING AT.
AND THEN THE LADY SAID, Y'ALL, ALL THESE FRIENDS NOW ARE GONNA BE ENEMIES VERY NEAR.
AND WELL, THE REASON THE WAR LASTED SO LONG IS THE SOUTH HAD ALL THE GOOD GENERALS.
BUT I READ A BOOK CALLED SUNDAY MORNING STAR ABOUT THE BATTLE.
AND THERE'S A STORY IN THAT BOOK THAT, THAT CUSTER HAD A SCOUT WITH BLOODY KNIFE.
AND THEN AFTER THE BATTLE, OF COURSE, THE INMATES SC THE BATTLEFIELD AND THESE TWO LITTLE GIRLS CAME BACK IN WITH THE HEAD OF, AND THEY WERE CARRYING HIM AND THEY WALKED INTO CAMP AND THEIR MOTHER LOOKED AT HIM AND LOOKED AT THE HEAD AND IT WAS THEIR FATHER.
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THAT'S TRUE.I, AND I'VE BEEN NEGLIGENT AND I'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS.
BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A PICTURE OF THIS POINT.
AND, UH, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET A PHOTOGRAPHER IN HERE NEXT MONDAY.
SO WHERE YOU COME FROM TODAY? THE JUDGES ARE, WE'RE ALL OURS MADE TOMORROW.
SO SEE IF HE IS THAT US? MARYANNE, YOU HAVE A BIG WEEKEND.
YESTERDAY WAS, SO ROGER ASKED ME ABOUT THOSE.
THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO BASICALLY, I MEAN, IT'S LESS THAN RIGHT.
SO ALL YOU PAY IS THE 6,000 PLUS HE GETS ABOUT 5%.
SO 5% A YEAR ON 90,000 ACTUALLY PROBABLY SAVE THOUSAND.
BUT YOU CAN GET ANY TRUCK YOU NEED.
I MEAN THEY WON'T FIT OUT ANY THE TRUCK ANY WAY YOU WANT.
YOU COULD GET A WATER TRUCK OR YOU CAN JUST GET A SEMI, YOU KNOW, TRACTOR TRAILER OR SET IT UP AS A DUMP TRUCK OR ANOTHER 14 MILES OR YOU HAVE TO GET IT BACK.
YOU, YOU WANT TO GET IT BACK AND GET A BRAND NEW TRUCK JUST TO GET ANOTHER ONE TO DO IT STARTED THE SAME HOPEFULLY.
AND THEY DO ALL, IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH IT, IT'S, BUT IF EVERYBODY STARTS LATCHING ON THAT DEAL, IT'LL GO AWAY.
SO WE DON'T WANNA GO BRAGGING ABOUT THAT DEAL.
THAT'S ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONER COURT.
BUT YOU GOTTA DO THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
YOU DON'T EVER GET A, YOU DON'T EVER GET ONE PAID FOR.
YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, COST ABOUT, IT'S GOING GO ABOUT 42 OR 40 CENTS NOW.
BILL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TO PAY THE BILL.
MR. SHANE WILL SECOND IT ALL IN YE AYE.
UH, ANYTHING, ANYTHING COMING UP THIS WEEK? UH, LET'S SEE YOU HERE NEXT MONDAY.
AND TRY, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT.
HISTORICAL LUNCH TOMORROW? UH, YEAH.
OH REALLY? IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT RUNS FROM
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10 TO TWO.11 TO TWO HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
AND, UH, JUDGE BATES RETIREMENT PARTY IS THURSDAY.
THURSDAY, ISN'T IT? 11 O'CLOCK.
UH, IS THE, UH, INDIGENT DEFENSE BOARD STILL ON FOR 10 30 THIS MORNING? TOMORROW MORNING.
AND ACTUALLY WE GOT SEVERAL JUDGES MEETINGS IN THE MORNING, BUT I THINK THAT JOHNNY, UH, HE WAS IN CHURCH YESTERDAY.
THEN HE WENT TO EAT SUPPER WITH HIS MOTHER LAST NIGHT.
OKAY, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.