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OKAY, WE'LL COME TO ORDER NOW.
I'M GONNA ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE TO OPEN THIS UP THIS MORNING.
WE COME TO YOU HERE, FATHER, ASKING YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS TODAY.
WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH US TODAY AS WE DO OUR BUSINESS TO OUR COUNTY.
ALSO BE WITH OUR TROOPS TODAY, THAT WE ARE IN HARM'S WAY, THAT YOU BRING THEM HOME SAFELY.
ALSO BE WITH OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY AND LEADERSHIP OF OUR COUNTRY.
PLEASE BLESS HIM AND HOLD INTACT AND GIVE HIM THE GENEROUS MIND TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THESE THINGS.
WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S NAME.
I ASK FOR YOU ALSO TO HOLD UP THE NAME OF, UH, JIMMY LANE.
HE WAS AN INVESTIGATOR WITH COLTON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S LAW FOR YEARS.
AND, UH, HE'S CHIEF OF POLICE OVER IN CR NOW.
HE LOST HIS SON OVER THE WEEKEND.
SO I PLEDGE TO FLAG FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY IN TEXAS FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
WHERE IS OUR CLERK? OKAY, OUR CLERK'S TAKING PICTURES.
DO YOU KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS COMING THIS MORNING? OKAY.
MORE EFFICIENT USE OF PERSONNEL.
THEY'RE IN SOME KIND OF TRAINING.
ANGIE SAYS ALSO, UH, COMMISSIONER ROUND IS SNOWED IN, IN COLORADO.
OH, I DON'T THINK HE WAS ONE OF THE EIGHT THAT GOT GOING OFF THE ROAD WITH THE A BUT, UH, KNOWING JERRY, HE'S, UH, HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
YOU'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, LAST WEEK, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY RICK HARRISON WAS HERE AND, AND, UH, MADE A REQUEST.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HAS ASKED THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DELLER AND, AND, UH, TREASURER
AND I THINK, UH, I RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, HONOR HIS REQUEST.
I SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SEGMENT BY COMMISSIONER LER.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MR. JOE PRIEST WANTS TO DISCUSS.
UH, JOE WANTS TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF US.
DID Y'ALL KNOW THE COUNTY OWNS THAT, UH, TRACK OF LAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS ALL THE WAY TO THE CORNER AND, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND, UH,
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JOE WANTS TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY.THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR TIME.
I DON'T NOT TAKE MUCH OF IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO YOU BASED ON THE PROCEDURES THAT YOU AS PUBLIC OFFICIAL NEED TO FOLLOW, THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER SETTING THIS, UH, TRACK GROUND THAT YOU HAVE FLAT IN FRONT OF TRUCKS ON HIGHWAY 34.
I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR ACRES AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT AN APPRAISED VALUE OF IT WOULD BE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR CONSIDERATION TO YOU BUY THAT TRACTOR PRINT PRIME PROPERTY.
I SOLD YOU A PRIME PROPERTY
COME TO THE COURT AND, AND, UH, SEE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COURT WANTED TO DO.
UH, WE HAVE, SO COMMISSIONER ROUND'S NOT HERE THIS MORNING, BUT, UH, HE'LL PASS THE INFORMATION ON TO HIM.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY POSITION AND STILL IS THAT, UH, AS THE COUNTY GROWS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO HOLD IN THE FUTURE AND WHAT NEEDS WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE, UH, LAND WISE AND, AND COUNTY USAGE.
WE'VE JUST REMODELED THE PART OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS, UH, AS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT NOW, JOE.
SOME OF 'EM THAT MOVED OUT THERE DIDN'T LIKE BEING TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE IN THE OLD JAIL.
SO, UH, WE, WE CHANGED, BASICALLY CHANGED THE NAME TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
AND, UH, UH, I KNOW IN THE FUTURE THE COUNTY'S GONNA NEED LAND FOR, UM, EXPANSION.
AND AS, AS I TOLD YOU, UH, WHEN WE VISITED, UH, MY OPINION IS THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD HOLD ON TO IT AT, FOR THE PRESENT.
HAVE WE DISCUSSED ANY OF THIS WITH OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THEY CAN GIVE THEIR OPINION OR NOT GIVE THEIR OPINION.
WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO, SIR, RESPECT YOUR OPINION, JUDGE.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE NEEDING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS WORTH.
I'D BE, BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT THE VALUE IT WAS.
I THINK THAT MONEY COULD BE USED.
I WAS HOPING THAT HE WOULD COME IN HERE WITH SOME KIND OF IDEA.
NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, UH, AN APPRAISAL, UH, A GOOD APPRAISAL.
UH, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, I THINK, UH, WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF WE PUT IT ON THE AUCTION BLOCK RATHER THAN HAVING IT APPRAISED AND THEN TRYING TO WORK A PRIVATE DEAL WITH SOMEBODY.
SO MY POINT WAS, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET RID OF ANYTHING.
HOWEVER, IF IT WAS, IF IT WOULD PAY, PAY FOR A NEW COURTS BUILDING, $21 MILLION VALUABLE, NOT THAT VALUABLE.
I'D LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL JERRY COMES BACK.
BUT ALSO I, THIS IS PROPERTY BUYING AND SELLING.
WE SHOULD, WE DISCUSSING EXECUTIVE DEFENSE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THE RULES WORK IS.
CAN WE JUST TABLE THIS DISCUSSION TILL WILL BE BACK NEXT, NEXT WEEK? WELL, NEXT WEEK IS WEEK HOLIDAY MONDAY.
OR IS IT NEXT WEEK'S? THE HOLIDAY IS MONDAY THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
YEAH, WE TYPE IT, UM, PUT IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DISCUSS IT.
MOTION MADE TO TABLE FOR THE PRESENT.
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A MOTION CARRIES.WE'LL, YOU GOT THE BALL ROLLING NOW, SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL, WE'RE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE LAW TO DISCUSS THE SALE OF REAL ESTATE IN AN EFFECTIVE SESSION.
NEXT WE HAVE IS, UH, DEANNA HARPER, UH, TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING CARE, FLAG TO SELL.
UH, SHOULD BE SELL INSTEAD, SALE SELL MEMBERSHIPS FOR A AMBULANCE SERVICES TO COFFEE COUNTY CITIZENS.
DEANNA, YOU GOT NEW HIRE? GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.
UH, FIRST THING I'LL DO IS I'LL APOLOGIZE.
DEANNA IS MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN I AM.
BUT, UH, UH, ESSENTIALLY SET UP THE AGENDA FOR US.
I'M MARK KESSLER, UH, WITH CARE FLIGHT.
I'M ONE OF THE DIRECTORS AND, UH, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF THIS MORNING.
I THINK THAT, UH, MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH MEMBERSHIP OR SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAMS FOR EMS SERVICES.
UH, EAST TEXAS EMS, YOUR CURRENT GROUND PROVIDER OFFERS SUCH A SERVICE IN MOST OF THE COUNTIES IN THE AREAS THAT THEY SERVE.
THIS MEMBERSHIP IS REGULATED BY CHAPTER 7 73 OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE IN 1 57, 11 OF EMS RULES.
BUT THE STATE REQUIRES US TO HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE HIGHEST RANKING OFFICIAL IN A JURISDICTION TO MARKET MEMBERSHIP OR SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAMS. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT PERMISSION FROM JUDGE JEN IN THIS COURT FOR AIR MEMBERSHIPS ONLY.
THIS IS NOT FOR PROVISION OF GROUND SERVICES.
I'VE GOT THE BROCHURES FOR YOU.
IF, UH, IF I MAY, I'LL PASS THOSE OUT.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE MEMBERSHIP THAT I PRESENTLY HOLD DOES NOT COVER HERE? THE MEMBERSHIP? IF YOU CURRENTLY HOLD A MEMBERSHIP WITH, UH, EAST TEXAS EMS, THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE PROVISION OF THEIR SERVICES, BUT NOT CARE WISE.
SO IF YOUR MEMBERSHIP WITH EAST TEXAS COVERS AIR AND UTILIZE EAST TEXAS MEDICAL SERVICES AIR PROVISION, THEN YES, YOUR MEMBERSHIP, AS LONG AS THAT'S COVERED UNDER YOUR MEMBERSHIP PLAN, BUT IT WOULD NOT COVER SERVICES OFFERED BY CARELY.
SO IT'S EAST TEXAS CARE AIR THAT, THAT I'M, THAT I BELONG TO.
IF YOU HAVE A MEMBERSHIP WITH THEM AND IT COVERS AIR SERVICES, IT WOULD COVER ONLY THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED BY EAST TEXAS.
UH, THERE ARE THREE PROVIDERS THAT, UH, PROVIDE AIR SERVICE, ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE EAST TEXAS EMS. UH, THE OTHER WOULD BE PHI OR UM, PETROLEUM HELICOPTERS AND THEN CAREF FLIGHT.
UH, BUT WITH YOUR SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAMS, YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER WITH THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE IN ORDER FOR COVERAGE.
SO WHEN I'M LAYING OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A EAST TEXAS CHOPPER TO GET HERE AND GO TO THIS.
NOW AND THAT'S NOT, YOU DON'T WANNA PAY FOR IT.
YEAH, BUT CAREFULLY IS CLOSEST AND THE MOST AVAILABLE CAREFULLY WILL COME.
YOU JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR CAREFULLY.
NO, I MEAN, IF THERE, IF THERE'S A WRECK BETWEEN HERE AND COUNTY, HE HAS A WRECK GOING HOME THIS AFTERNOON AND IT'S A SEVERE WRECK AND THEY NEED TO CALL THESE TEXAS HELICOPTERS TIED UP, THEN THEY'LL CALL CARELY CARELY WILL ANSWER.
IT'S JUST THAT YOU'LL FEEL HIM AND HIS INSURANCE COMPANY.
AND ONE OF THE POINTS THAT, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 17 COUNTIES THAT WE'VE GONE TO, UH, IN DISCUSSING SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAMS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS WHEN THOSE EMERGENCIES OCCUR, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS ON THE GROUND USE THE CLOSEST, MOST APPROPRIATE AIRCRAFT.
AND, UH, MEMBERSHIP IS A SECONDARY CONSIDERATION.
NOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT ON THE OTHER END OF THAT SPECTRUM, WHEN YOU'RE THE ONE THAT GETS THE BILL, THEN IT BECOMES A CONCERN.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE TODAY IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL THIS MEMBERSHIP IN KAUFMAN COUNTY TO CITIZENS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING.
WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO, UH, ENDORSE OR APPROVE
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THE PRODUCT ITSELF.WE'RE MERELY HERE ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PERMISSION TO MARKET IT.
UM, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE AVERAGED ABOUT 200 OR A LITTLE OVER AIR FLIGHTS OUT OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY THROUGHOUT EACH OF THOSE YEARS.
SO THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO USE OUR SERVICES, AND WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO OFFER THEM THIS IF THEY CHOOSE TO BUY.
IF, IF MR. ER HAD THE, HAS THE AIR AMBULANCE COVERAGE WITH THE EAST TEXAS, EAST TEXAS HELICOPTER IS, IS TIED UP IN TYLER OR TERRELL OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, CAREFLEX CALL HIM, THEY PICK HIM UP, TAKE HIM WHEREVER THEY TAKE HIM BECAUSE HE HAD INSURANCE WITH THESE TEXAS.
DO Y'ALL WORK WITH HIM ON THE BILLING IN ANY WAY OR NOT? CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOT.
BUT ONE OF THE INTERESTING POINTS AND THE POINTS OF DISCUSSION THAT THE STATE HAS ALLUDED TO IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY EMERGING AIR PROVIDERS IN THE AREA, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE WORK THAT OUT ON THE BUSINESS END.
WE HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BUT I DO KNOW ON THE GROUND SIDE, WE DO HAVE SIMILAR ARRANGEMENTS WITH OTHER PROVIDERS THAT WE WOULD HONOR THEIR MEMBERSHIP.
UH, ON THE AIRSIDE, WE NOT APPROACH THAT, BUT CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS TODAY, IF CARE FLIGHT WAS CALLED, WE WOULD NOT HONOR AN EAST TEXAS MEMBERSHIP.
WHAT IS TYPICALLY THE COST TO PICK SOMEBODY UP, SAY, HAVE WAY BETWEEN YOUR INCOME AND TAKE THEM TO WHEREVER AVERAGE AVERAGE BILLING ON AN AIR FLIGHT RUNS, UH, RIGHT AROUND EIGHT TO $9,000.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE SELLING A MEMBERSHIP FOR? WHAT THE MEMBERSHIP ALLOWS IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CARE FLIGHT MEMBERS THAT PAY A 49 99 FEE.
IF CARE FLIGHT PROVIDES SERVICES TO THEM AND THEY HAVE INSURANCE, LET'S SAY THAT THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY ONLY COVERS 80% OF THE COST OF SERVICES, BUT ADDITIONAL 20% IS COVERED OUT OF MEMBERSHIP FEES.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DON'T RECEIVE THE ADDITIONAL BILLING.
WHEREAS IF THEY'RE UNINSURED, THE MEMBERSHIP OR SUBSCRIPTION PLAN GIVES THEM A 50% DISCOUNT.
SO THEY'RE PRESUMABLY A $9,000 BILL IS NOW $4,500.
IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, IT'S 50% FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNINSURED.
NOW, IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, WE BILL THE INSURANCE, WHATEVER THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS, THE REMAINDER IS COVERED OUT OF THE MEMBERSHIP OR SUBSCRIPTION.
SO FOR $49, YOU'RE FULLY COVERED FOR TRANSPORTATION.
IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, YOU COVER CORRECT.
IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL BILLING.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, IT'S A 50% DISCOUNT.
UH, OF COURSE YOU'RE JUST ASKING PERMISSION TO MARKET THE MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM HERE IN TON COUNTY.
THAT IS, UH, PART OF THE STATE REQUIREMENT IS, IS THAT WE GET THE PERMISSION OF THE, UH, HIGHEST RANKING OFFICIAL WITHIN A JURISDICTION TO SAY HE WHAT THE HIGHEST RANKING OFFICIAL.
I JUST BROUGHT Y'ALL IN ON THIS
BUT YOU MADE COMMENT WHILE AGO ON HOW MANY FLIGHTS YOU, YOU MADE LAST YEAR OR IN THE LAST YEAR, LAST 12 MONTHS.
WHAT WAS THAT? WE, UH, WE'VE GONE BETWEEN RIGHT AROUND 200 FLIGHTS A YEAR OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
A FEW YEARS BEFORE THAT WE'VE BEEN UP OVER 200.
BUT IT'S BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT.
WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR GROUND SERVICE WITH THESE TEXAS.
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TEXAS, ABSOLUTELY.AND, UH, I WOULDN'T WANT ANYTHING HERE TO JEOPARDIZE OUR, WHAT WE HAVE WITH THESE TEXAS.
UH, IS THERE ANY ANYBODY FROM EAST TEXAS HERE THAT WANTS TO WANT SAY ANYTHING OR JUST STATE AND MAY ANSWER QUESTIONS? 20 MYERS EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER, UH, GENTLEMAN IS RIGHT.
UH, CARELY DOES A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF, UH, FLIGHTS IN THIS, UH, UH, NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
IN FACT, THE LAST, THE LAST, UH, FISCAL YEAR, UH, AT LEAST PEOPLE WE CALL AND THE NINE ONE ONE CALL COMES IN FOR AN AMBULANCE OR A HELICOPTER COMES IN OUR DISPATCH CENTER TIMES WE CALL CARE FLIGHT ONE TWENTY ONE TIMES AT OUR OWN SERVICE.
AND THESE DETECTIVE PROVIDED SERVICE, PHI AND UM, LIFE STORY AT THAT TIME, PROVIDING FIVE IN THE SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
UM, IF OUR AMBULANCE IS HELICOPTERS AVAILABLE, WE WE PROVIDE AN AIR SERVICE.
WHAT WE DO, WE CALL THE CLOSE OF AVAILABLE HELICOPTER, AS, AS JIM, UH, SAID IT, AND WE AGREE WITH HIM, IS THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS PATIENT CARE.
SO WE LOOK AT WHERE THE HELICOPTERS ARE LOCATED, WHERE THE PATIENT'S NEEDS ARE, AND WE'LL CALL THE CLOSE HELICOPTER.
THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN NORTHERN AND WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY'S GOTTA BE CAREFULLY AND SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY IS GONNA BE, UH, EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE DON'T DO, WE DON'T SELL A MEMBERSHIP STRICTLY FOR AIR.
THE ONLY TIME THAT WE OFFER A MEMBERSHIP IS FOR GROUND.
WE HAVE EXCLUSIVITY LIKE WE DO IN THE COUNTY.
WE OFFER THE, UH, AIR, AIR PORTION OF THE MEMBERSHIP AS AN ADDED BENEFIT.
WE DON'T CHARGE ANY MORE FOR THAT.
ANOTHER THING WE DO IS THAT WE FEEL THAT THE INDIVIDUAL BUYER MEMBERSHIP WAS AROUND AREA, AND WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST IN, BECAUSE WE WE'RE, OUR STATIONS CLOSER, OUR UNITS ARE CLOSER, AND WE DO NOT ARRIVE BECAUSE OUR ANALYSTS OR HELICOPTERS ARE TIED SOMEPLACE ELSE.
WE PAID A DIFFERENCE SET BILL, UH, SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR, ESPECIALLY IN A TYLER AREA WHERE OUR HELICOPTER WILL BE TIED UP IN OUR ANOTHER CALL, UH, WE'LL CALL MOTHER FRANCIS.
THEY'LL TRANSPORT THE BALANCE OF THREE OR $4,000.
AND SO WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT AN INDIVIDUAL BUYS OUR MEMBERSHIP FOR ANYBODY ELSE IN MEMBERSHIP.
UH, THEY HAVE AN EXPECTATION TO GET SERVICE ON ANY SERVICE TO MAKE SURE THE BILL'S COVERED.
AND SO WE DO PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN GROUND.
WE DO PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN ERROR IN ANY MEMBERSHIP THAT WE SELL.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, WE GIVE A 40% DISCOUNT OUT 50%.
ALSO, OUR MEMBERSHIP COVERS YOU OVER 17,000 SQUARE MILES.
SO WE HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST LARGER EMS UH, UH, MEMBERSHIP PROGRAMS IN THE, IN THE STATE, PROBABLY IN THE COUNTRY, OVER 45,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
SO IF YOU'RE IN WACO, IN PASADENA TAROT, UH, TYLER, ANY PLACE THAT WE PROVIDE SERVICE AND YOU USE OUR SERVICE AS MEMBERSHIP COVERS YOU NOT ONLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT ANY PLACE WE PROVIDE SERVICE.
YOU SAID SOMETHING, UH, THAT YOU DON'T CHARGE EXTRA FOR THE AIR SERVICE.
IT'S PART IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION FOR THE GROUND SERVICE OR BMS, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY COVERED ON THE AIR.
UH, AUTOMATICALLY THE AIR WERE FIRST IN ON HERE.
IN OTHER WORDS, FOR THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS COUNTY? NO, THE THE, OKAY.
THE HELICOPTER SERVICE IS NOT INCLUDED AUTOMATICALLY.
BUT IF CARE FLAG'S NOT AVAILABLE AND WE DO, WE DO ARRIVE HERE, THEN OUR MEMBERSHIP WILL COME HERE.
OUR HELICOPTER COVERS A LOT LARGER AREA THAN WE DO FROM GROUND SERVICE.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE, WE, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE, WELL, WE CAN SERVICE THERE.
AND ALSO THERE'S AREAS THAT WE PROVIDE GROUND SERVICE WHERE OUR HELICOPTER IS NOT THE CLOSEST.
SO WE WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA CALL IT CLOSEST HELICOPTER.
SO THIS IS ONLY, UH, AN ADDED BENEFIT.
ONLY WHEN OUR HELICOPTER IS SHOULD BE CLOSEST TO THE CALL.
YOU DON'T SEE ANY CONFLICT WITH US AUTHORIZING CARELY.
DO YOU SEE A CONFLICT? NOT ANY CONFLICT AS LONG AS THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADVERTISING THAT CASE CLEARLY WHAT IT DOES, WHAT IT MEANS, UH, THIS PRETTY MUCH EXPLAINS IT.
AND I, I THINK WHAT MR. MYERS HAS ALLUDED TO IS IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE COUNTY, EAST TEXAS AIR WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST IN AIRCRAFT, AND THOSE ARE THE CITIZENS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE AIR MEMBERSHIP.
ALSO, THE ONLY REASON THAT WE SELL OUR MEMBERSHIP SEPARATELY IS BECAUSE WE DO COVER A MUCH LARGER AREA ON AIR THAN WE DO GROUND.
AND CAREFULLY, A SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED TWO SEPARATE LICENSES WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES SOME TIME AGO.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SPECIFIC MARKETING MATERIAL AND BROCHURES PER LICENSE.
BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WITH, WITH WHAT HE HAS SAID HERE, IS THAT THAT SHOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THERE BEING A
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CONFLICT OR CITIZENS BEING COVERED BY ONE PROGRAM OR ANOTHER.UM, THEY DO HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM.
IF I'M IN DALLAS COUNTY, DOES THIS STILL COVER ME? YES, SIR.
THE MEMBERSHIP, IF YOU WERE A MEMBER ANYWHERE, CARE FLIGHT PROVIDES SERVICES, YOU'RE STILL COVERED, WHICH ON THE AIR MEMBERSHIP.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S COVERED IN THAT IS FIXED WING SERVICE, UM, SITUATION, IF YOU WILL.
LET'S SAY THAT YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, THREE OR 400 MILES AWAY ON A HUNTING TRIP OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU GET INJURED AND YOU NEED A FIXED WING AIRCRAFT TO BRING YOU BACK INTO TOWN.
OR PERHAPS MAYBE YOU ARE HERE AND NEED TO GO TO HOUSTON OR SOMEWHERE FOR SPECIALIZED SERVICES.
THE FIXED WING IS COVERED IN THIS MEMBERSHIP.
THERE'S ONLY ONE SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE IS THAT IF IN FACT THE
SOMEBODY IN, UH, IN TE MEMBERSHIP AND THEY NEED A HELICOPTER AND THE NOT AVAILABLE, WE, WE ARRIVED, WE TRANSPORTED.
THEY'RE EXPECT US TO HONOR THAT MEMBERSHIP AND WE WON'T DO THAT.
UH, CONVERSELY, IF SOMEBODY IN COUNTY USED OUR, UH, HAVE OUR MEMBERSHIP AND THEY GOT EVERYONE INSTEAD OF LOOK BECAUSE WE WENT UNAVAILABLE.
NOT EVERYONE, EXCUSE ME, BUT CAREFULLY WE WOULD PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL.
I'M REQUESTING ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF ME? WHAT THAT QUESTION? YOU SAID THERE'S A THIRD AREA SERVICE PROVIDER.
THERE'S, UH, CARELY EAST TEXAS, PHI WHO, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, UH, EHI DID YOU SAY E-H-I-P-H-I-P-H-I.
PETROLEUM HELICOPTERS INCORPORATED.
THEY'RE VERY SMALL IN, IN THIS AREA.
OUR RECORD SHOW, WE OUGHT A CALL 'EM EIGHT TIMES LAST YEAR.
SO TO BE FULLY COVERED, YOU, YOU WOULD IN THEORY, WOULD YOU NEED A MEMBERSHIP AND ALL THREE OR FOUR COMPANIES? YEAH.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE DILEMMA THE STATE IS HAVING NOW, UM, IS THAT MEMBERSHIPS FOR HELICOPTERS IS A LOT DIFFERENT.
MEMBERSHIPS ARE GROUND SERVICE.
YOU CAN HAVE EXCLUSIVE SERVICE FOR GROUND SERVICE AND CAN HAVE SOME MUTUAL AID.
BUT UH, FOR INSTANCE, EVEN IN UH, UM, DALLAS COUNTY, YOU COULD HAVE NUMEROUS DIFFERENT HELICOPTERS RESPOND.
SO IF YOU SAW A MEMBERSHIP, UH, WHO'S GONNA COVER THAT, THAT COST OF IT, YOU COULD HAVE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES SELLING MEMBERSHIPS IN ONE COUNTY.
I DON'T THINK THESE HELICOPTER COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO BE, UH, UH, DEVIOUS ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT THING FOR THEM TO, TO GUARANTEE COVERAGE AT ALL TIMES.
MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A, A PRIVATE CHOICE OR PERSONAL CHOICE AND LIKE BUY INSURANCE.
SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO GIVE PERMISSION TO SELL? SHE REQUIRES IT.
THAT WAS MY DUMB QUESTION FOR THE DAY.
IT IS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE BUY AS A CONSUMER, IT HAS TO BE AN INFORMED DECISION.
AND ONE THING THAT THE GOOD PART ABOUT THE STATE REGULATING US IS, IS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED AND EVERYONE WHO OFFERS A MEMBERSHIP OR SUBSCRIPTION IS REQUIRED TO BE VERY UPFRONT, OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT THE MARKETING OF THIS.
AND WE'VE ALL READ CONTRACTS THAT CONFUSE ALL OF US.
THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THIS.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE PURCHASING UPFRONT AND THIS TO BE DONE WITH INTEGRITY.
UM, MR. MYERS HAS BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAPPEN TO COME FROM A SIMILAR PLACE IN INDIANA.
UM, I'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH MEMBERSHIPS SINCE ROUGHLY 1986.
THERE'S A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT THERE, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE OPERATING WITH INTEGRITY AND CAN WORK TOGETHER, BUT IT PROVIDES YOUR CITIZENS EVEN BETTER COVERAGE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.
THE STATE REQUIRES ANYONE WHO SELLS MEMBERSHIPS TO UH, CLOSE A BOND.
WE HAVE TO CLOSE A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR BOND A YEAR.
SO IF OUR MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM GOES BY THE WAYSIDE, SO WE GO BANKRUPT, WE GO TO BUSINESS, THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY EVERYBODY BACK THAT BELONGS TO OUR, OUR PROGRAMS, THE MONEY THEY PUT INTO THE PROGRAM.
SO THERE ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES THERE AND, UM, CAREFULLY IT'S QUALITY PROGRAM COMPETITION FOR THEIR QUALITY PROGRAM.
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MR. MYERS, YOU ALLUDED TO WAS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US REQUIRE THEM TO, UH, TO HELP ON THE BILL IF, UH, IF IT WAS IN THE PROPER SITUATION.I DON'T THINK WE CAN REQUIRE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A SELLING POINT OF CARE FLIGHT TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL DO THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THEM, UH, OBLIGATED TO THAT, UH, FOR US TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF THE, UH, SUBSCRIPTIONS HERE IN THE COUNTY.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT DEAL OF WHAT Y'ALL DO.
AND, UH, WE HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION.
LIKE MY MOM BOUGHT ONE LEAVE, WHAT WOULD SHE EXPECT? MM-HMM
THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO, FOR, UM, LIKE CONCERN THE GYM IS THAT WON'T BE ANY CONFLICT.
AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, Y'ALL BASICALLY DON'T HAVE THE SERVICE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY ANYWAY.
UH, WE WILL PROVIDE HELICOPTER SERVICE THERE OCCASIONALLY.
CARE PLUG WILL DO A PERSON WE CALL BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSER.
AND WHEN A CALL COMES INTO YOU, LIKE YOU SAY YOU LOOK AT THE CLOSEST HELICOPTER, NOT WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA GET THE BUSINESS OR EXACTLY.
WE CALL, WE'LL CALL UP, UH, THAT SERVICE AND ASK THEM, UH, WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THE ETA WOULD BE, UH, KIND OF A ARRIVAL.
THERE'S SOMETIMES CARE PLACE OUT POSITION, SO WE'LL CALL OURSELVES FOR PA THE VAST MAJORITY OF TIME, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL, NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, CARE WILL BE FIRST.
WELL, I, UH, I WOULD NEVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD INTERFERE WITH OUR SERVICE WITH EAST TEXAS.
I THINK EAST TEXAS SERVE COFFMAN COUNTY, UH, AS A GREAT PRODUCT HERE AND, AND C INDIVIDUALS AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.
UH, INCLUDING AIR SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE.
UH, AND I LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU DO COOPERATE WITH CARELY AND, AND, UH, IN ANSWERING THE CALLS, IF WE CAN, UH, HELP THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY MAKE THIS PRODUCT AVAILABLE TO 'EM AND THE NORTHERN PARK PARTICULARLY, THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE BIG MARK GOING TO BE.
WHEN SOMEONE FINDS OUT THAT THEY'VE GOT THESE SUBSCRIPTION WITH EAST TEXAS AND THEY'RE COVERED BY EAST TEXAS, THEIR CHANCES ARE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INTERFERE WITH THEM BUYING FROM YOUR PRODUCT.
UH, BUT $49, FOR SOME PEOPLE IT WOULD BE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TO HAVE THAT SERVICE.
UH, BUT TO OTHERS IT WOULDN'T NEED ANY MONEY AT ALL.
UH, IF, IF, UH, MR. MYERS DOESN'T FEEL IT'S DIRE COMPETITION WITH HIM AND WOULD INTERFERE WITH THEM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH, I THINK, UH, THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS IN NORTH COUNTY WOULD SURE LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROCESS IS AND IF THEY WOULD EXPLAIN IT TO THEM A LITTLE BIT, THAT WE'RE UNDER CARE FLAT MORE THAN WE'RE UNDER EACH TEXAS AREA.
AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP, UH, IF THIS IS EXPLAINED REALLY GOOD, THE PAPER OR SOMEHOW WHEN Y'ALL GO OUT AND SELL YOUR PRODUCT, ABSOLUTELY NEED A MOTION ON THAT.
THEN MAKE A MOTION TO DO A MOTION MADE BY MR. ER TO AUTHORIZE CARE PLAN TO ACCEPT SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE FOR AIR AMBULANCE MEMBERSHIP IN KAMAN COUNTY.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
DID YOU RECEIVE THE LETTERS AND THE PACKET MOTION? WE, WE DRAFTED SOME LANGUAGE, BUT UM, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, YEAH, IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE, WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AND, UH, JUST HAVE THAT PUT ON COUNTY LETTERHEAD WITH THE SIGNATURE.
WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THERE? UH, I THINK SO, BUT UH, CHECK WITH ME IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE IS KATHY MORRIS, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS APPROVING, UH, CITY'S READINESS INITIATIVE GRANT FOR 2007 AND REPOINT STEVE HUY AS THE CRI COORDINATOR.
IT IS THE, UH, CITY'S READINESS INITIATIVE PROGRAM IS IN CASE WE HAVE A MASS DISPENSING NEED FOR MEDICINES FOR THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE COUNTY.
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FUNDED BY THE CDC FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDS.UH, EVERY POSITION, MILEAGE, TRAVEL, EVERYTHING IS FUNDED OUT THE GRANT.
IT'S JUST THAT THEY DECIDED TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM ALIVE FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING PROBABLY TWO MORE YEARS GETTING IT DONE.
STEVE'S DONE A GREAT JOB IN GETTING VOLUNTEERS FROM POD SITES.
WE NEED, UM, CURRENTLY HAS SIX LISTED.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ADDING ANOTHER TWO DUE TO THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO THROW OUR VOLUNTEERS AND GET SUPPORT IN CASE WE NEED TO OPEN UP TO DIS MEDICATIONS ASKING Y'ALL TO APPROVE THE GRANT.
IT'S AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CO TO THEY ACTUALLY MONITOR THE GRANT.
WE HAVE TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT WITH CO TO DO THIS FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW.
STEVE, YOU MIGHT TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STEVE.
STEVE IS ALSO, UH, FORTUNATELY THE DALLAS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
HE'S ALSO THE CHIEF OF THE CONLIN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES UNIT IN THE COUNTY THAT COMES OUT AND HELPS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS DOING THE REHAB.
AND THEY ASSIST WITH, THEY CAN DO ANYTHING FROM INCIDENT COMMAND TO SITTING THERE IN AN ENGINE AND HELPING OUT THE FIRE, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL.
AND HE'S EXCELLENT WITH THE VOLUNTEERS AND GETTING PEOPLE ROUND UP TO HELP PADDLE.
AND WAS HE WITH THE RED CROSS AS FAR? HE WAS THE RED CROSS, RIGHT? HE'S WITH THE
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HE HAS ALL THE TIME THERE TO DO ALL THIS, BUT HE DOESN'T.
ANY COMMENTS? I WOULD THAT MOTION, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
HE'LL BE HERE AT 10 30, SO WE'LL SKIP THAT.
CONSIDER CONTRACTING WITH TDO TO UTILIZE SCHOOL LAWS FOR ALL COURT COLLECTIONS.
I'M GONNA PUT JOHNNY ON THE SPOT AGAIN.
WHEN, WHEN DO YOU, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS? UH, WELL, IT'LL PROBABLY BE A FEW WEEKS.
I GET A CONTRACT DOWN, IT'LL GET SIGNED.
AND, UH, IT'S QUITE SIMPLY THAT YOU GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PASS UNI COLLECTIONS.
WE CAN GO BUY A TECH DOCK THAT YOU'RE BEHIND AND YOU COULDN'T EVEN BUY YOUR DOCUMENT, YOUR LICENSE PLATES.
IT'S A, I THINK EVERY TIME WE SEND OFF A GROUP OF NAME, IT GETS ABOUT $25 TO VEHICLE.
DO YOU RECOMMEND IT? WE DO THIS, YEAH.
MY, UH, MY RESEARCH TELLS ME THAT 300, 300,000, 90 DAYS AND ONLY 27,000 COLLECTED TELLS ME THAT WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO IT.
AND WOULD ONE FEBRUARY BE A GOOD DAY IF WE AUTHORIZED THE ONE FEBRUARY THE TWO'S TOO LATE OR SOON? DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NO CONTRACT? I SELL THE CONTRACTS AND MAYBE KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT BE CONTACT THEM AND, UH, EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE NOW.
ALL I, WELL, THE REASON I, THE REASON I'M CURIOUS IS EXACTLY THE TAX ASSESSORS AREA, UH, BECAUSE HIS PEOPLE WOULD BE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA CALL UP THE NAME AND THE LITTLE THING IS GONNA FLASH.
REALLY? NOT AT SO IT DAY DO ANYTHING.
I JUST PUT IN, YOU KNOW, YOUR LICENSE PLATE NUMBER WHERE YOUR LICENSE PLATE JUMPS UP THERE AND SAYS, UH, JUDGE YOU IS BEHIND THING.
MY POINT BEING, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A A DATE.
UH, I JUST WANT WHO START NEXT.
WE, UH, WE UTILIZE THE SCOTT LOCK COLLECTION PROCEDURE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN OPPOSED? I.
NEXT, WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR WASTE HAULING FOR THE CONVENIENCE STATION PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
UH, THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR MR. ER'S, UH, CONVENIENCE STATION, UH, FOR WASTE HAULING.
AND, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CLOSE THIS BID ON FRIDAY, JANUARY 26TH AND OPEN ON MONDAY, UH, JANUARY 29TH.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY? HOW MANY YOU HAVE? DO YOU NEED SOME NEED? YES, SIR.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
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LUNCHTIME.THIS GUY'S CONSIDERED SIGNING A PERSONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH, UH, ION FORD.
JUDGE, AS I MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY, I THINK, UH, YOU AND I SPOKE AND I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE HAD ONE IN THE PAST.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GET THAT DONE.
AND SOME CHANGES YOU MIGHT WANNA MAKE, I THE COURT MIGHT WANNA GO AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
HAVE WE GOT A COPY OF THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE ALL IN? THAT'S WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR.
JERRY'S NOT HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT TWO OVER IN THIS CHAIR.
THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THE FILING OF THE DALLAS GROUND SLAUGHTER REPORTS FOR THE WEEKEND IN DECEMBER 21ST MADE BY COMMISSIONER BY COMMISSIONER.
ALL AYE, I ALWAYS WANNA DO THIS.
THE 28TH DISCUSS, CONSIDERING ACKNOWLEDGING THE REPORT FILED BY DECEMBER 28TH.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE ON 39.
WE'RE HAVING A ITEM TRANSFERS.
UH, DISCUSS THE CONSIDER OPENING AND WARNING BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR CO MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CHAIN.
CARRIE, YOU CAN OPEN THE BIDS, SIR, IF WE GOT ANY.
WE, UH, CONTACTED ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN COMPANIES, UH, TWO EDUCATED LIKE A BID AND RECEIVED ONE BID.
AND THAT ONE BID IS FROM, UH, WILSON CULVERTS, UH, ELKHART, TEXAS.
FIRST ITEM, UH, 12 INCH DIAMETER CULVERT AT 5 73 FOR FOOT.
SECOND ITEM, 15 INCH CULVERT AT $7 14 CENTS PER FOOT.
UH, THIRD ITEM, UH, 18 INCH, $8 AND 56 CENTS PER FOOT.
24 INCH CULVERT, 1139 PER FOOT.
30 INCH CULVERT, 1425 PER FOOT.
36 INCH CULVERT, $17 AND 11 CENTS PER FOOT.
UH, 42 INCH, $19 AND 94 CENTS PER FOOT.
48 INCH CULVERT, $27 AND 39 CENTS PER FOOT.
HAVE, UH, SORRY, I LEAVE OFF YOUR LIST THERE.
60 INCH CULVERT, $33 AND 84 CENTS PER FOOT.
72 INCH CULVERT, UH, $40 AND 61 CENTS PER FOOT.
84 INCH CULVERT, $56 AND 37 CENTS PER FOOT.
AND THE 96 INCH, UH, COVERT IS $64 AND 25 CENTS.
I GUESS IT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER.
YOU DID, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A SAFETY ENGINE AND DAMAGE.
THE, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, THE LAST CONTRACT, UH, IT, IT APPEARS IT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
UH, ONCE THEY HELD THE PRICES FOR, UH, TWO YEARS, AND I GUESS IT WITH THE COST OF STEEL, THAT REPRESENTS AN INCREASE IN COST.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON A 12 INCH COVER, WE WERE PAYING 4 98 A FOOT, AND THAT'S 5 73 NOW.
AND, UH, 42 INCH, UH, WE WERE PAYING, UH, 1734 AND IT'S NOW 1994 PER FOOT.
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MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TO, UH, AWARD BID TO WILSON.SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL OPPOSED? I A MOTION CARRIES.
LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING SUPPLEMENTAL ANNUAL CASE FOR AN AND OR TRAVEL ALLOWS FOR THE DISTRICT JUDGES THAT SET OUT AN ARTICLE 6 59 0.2 OF GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, JUDGE AND JUDGE, UH, JUDGE NOBEL.
SO YOU WANNA BE THE SPEAKER? WE WANT ALL SPEAK.
UH, UH, JUDGE IS WALKING TO THE MIC.
UH, UH, AS I RECALL LAST YEAR WHEN WE GOT, WHEN THE LEGISLATURE, TWO YEARS AGO, WE SET THAT LAW, ESTABLISHING THE NEW SALARIES FOR THE DISTRICT JUDGES.
UH, IN OUR WORKSHOPS, UH, WE HAD ASKED, UH, JOHNNY TO, UH, FIND OUT WHAT, UH, DALLAS COUNTY WAS GONNA BE DOING AND, AND THEY INFORMED JOHNNY THAT THE MAXIMUM THAT THE, UH, THAT BE PAID, UH, THE COURT THEN THOUGHT THAT THE MAXIMUM THAT WE COULD PAY WAS A HUNDRED THIRTY ONE, ONE THIRTY, ONE THIRTY FIVE, ONE THIRTY TWO FIVE.
AND UH, UH, THEN SINCE THEN, I GUESS THEY WERE HAVING THAT QUESTION ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE SOMEONE REQUESTED ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION.
UH, AND NOW AN ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS THAT THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN PAY IS 140.
AND, UH, SO, UH, IT ACTUALLY IS 140 IN THE BUDGET.
I BELIEVE THE TOTAL COMPENSATION IS WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.
AND UH, BUT, UH, SINCE THE COURT AT ONE TIME HAD SAID WE'D ONLY PAY A HUNDRED THIRTY TWO FIVE TO GET THAT DIFFERENCE, WE NEEDED ANOTHER NEED COURT'S PERMISSION TO, UH, PAY THAT DIFFERENCE IF WE'RE GONNA PAY IT.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER THE YEAR.
YOU YOU DID EXCEPT WHEN, WHEN IT, WHEN IT CAME OUT LAST YEAR THAT THE CEILING WAS ACTUALLY ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN YOU THOUGHT.
WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS DID WAS AT OUR SUGGESTION WAS TAKE MONEY OUT OF OUR BUDGETS FOR A VISITING JUDGE.
THERE'D BEEN A $30,000 FIGURE IN THERE FOR VISITING JUDGE AND MOVE THAT TO SALARY.
TO A SALARY OR TRA TO SUPPLEMENT A TRAVEL ALLOWANCE.
UH, SO THAT IT DIDN'T UPSET YOUR ENTIRE BUDGET.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO FIND ANY NEW SOURCE.
UH, SO THE BUDGET WAS PASSED LAST YEAR.
WE'RE JUST ASKING WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.
AND, UH, THE, UH, SO, AND I KNOW AT ONE POINT YOU, YOU, UH, YOU ASKED ME, YOU SAID, UH, WELL WHY DON'T WE JUST ALL CALL, CALL IT, UH, SUPPLEMENT AS OPPOSED TO TRAVEL ALLOWANCE.
AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SOMETIME HAVE A VISITING JUDGE COME IN AND, UH, THAT JUDGE HAS TO BE PAID TO SUPPLEMENT THE SAME AS YOU PAY YOUR JUDGES.
IT'LL SAVE THE COUNTY A FEW BUCKS IF YOU CALL PART OF A TRAVEL ALLOWANCE.
AND SINCE THERE'S A HISTORY OF DOING THAT, I SUGGESTED YOU KEEP IT THAT WAY.
IT SAVED THE COUNTY A FEW DOLLARS.
UH, UH, AND WE HAD VISITING JUDGE FOR THE 40 ELECTION CASE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER'S ELECTION CASE.
AND SO IT, UH, IT WOULDN'T SAVE THE COUNTY YOU OF A DOLLAR TO DO IT THAT WAY.
BUT YES, THAT'S THE WAY I, WE DO IT MYSELF.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT THAT I'VE TRIED TO RESEARCH THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST PIECE OF LEGISLATION EVER WRITTEN BECAUSE EVEN, UH, THE STATUTE SAYS THAT ANY OF THE EXCESS WE PAY IN EXCESS, THE COMPTROLLER SHALL REDUCE THE STATE SALARY PORTION BY THE AMOUNT OF EXCESS IN OUR SWEETHEART.
SORRY, UH, CAROL KEEN STRAYHORN, SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER.
SO SHE WROTE TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THEIR, THEIR STATEMENT WAS THIS CAP OF THE SALARY, THE DISTRICT JUDGE FROM STATE AND COUNTY SOURCES 1 32 5, I GUESS CAROL KEATON STRAYHORN DIDN'T, DIDN'T LIKE THAT SHE WENT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ASKED HER RE AND ASKED FOR A, A RECOMMENDATION.
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AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE WROTE, GREG A, IT SAYS THE SERVICES ON BEHALF OF DISTRICT JUDGE MAY NOT EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT IS 5,000 LESS FROM THE SALARY PROVIDED FOR A JUSTICE OF THE COURT OF APPEAL OTHER THAN THE CHIEF, WHICH TRANSLATES TO A HUNDRED THIRTY TWO FIVE.UH, APPEALS COURT SAYS 1 37 5.
SO THAT MEANS 5,000 LESS THAN 1 37 IS 1 32 5.
NOW IN THEIR SUMMARY, IN THEIR SUMMARY, THEY SAY UNDER SECTION 6 59 0 1 2 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, THE MAXIMUM LAWFUL AMOUNT PAYABLE TO A STATE DISTRICT JUDGE IS 140,000.
SO THEIR EXPLANATION AND THEIR SUMMARY DON'T EVEN AGREE
LEMME SAY THIS, THAT PRIOR TO THIS, UH, UH, LEGISLATURE, ACTUALLY THE COUNTY WAS PAYING $5,000 GREATER SUPPLEMENTS THAN IT IS IN THE BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR.
I, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING AND, AND WELL, IT'S AN ATTORNEY.
YOU HEAR THAT ATTORNEY WROTE THIS, THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT, WHAT JOHNNY WAS TOLD WHEN HE, WHEN HE, WHEN HE INVESTIGATED.
I, I READ THIS A HALF A DOZEN TIMES AND, AND THEIR EXPLANATION.
DON'T EVEN YOUR SUMMARY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ARD.
APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH QUESTION.
SAME THING IS IN THE, IN, IN BUDGET.
DO WE HAVE ANY DEALS? YES, SIR.
HAVE, THAT'S PROBABLY, IT DIDN'T SAY, I NOTICED THEY'RE ALL HERE.
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WELL RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING, THE SOUTH BUILDING.I NEED TO SEE JOHNNY JUST BIT JOHNNY INVITE GO BEER FRIDAY, SATURDAY, UH, SATURDAY EVENING.
BUT WHEN I FINALLY GOT A NEIGHBORS, SHE RECITE CHARGES.
SO THIS ON THIS RECEPTABLE, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF DUMPSTER
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CONTAINER? IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY, YEAH.AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, BUT SEE SOME OF THE COMPANIES AROUND THIS AREA.
HE TOLD US TO GIVE US A, SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US THOSE, WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO EXTRA, USE IT AS OUR PAPER AND CARDBOARD PROGRAM AND THEN THE OTHER CONTAINER IF WE CAN, IF WHOEVER IS GOING, WE COULD USE THAT NEED, WOULD TAKE TWO RECYCLABLE PLACE AND HAVE RECYCLED.
I JUST WANTED, I DIDN'T WANT, I WANTED BID 30 MARILYN, SOMETHING GONNA USE FOR, BUT MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS PROBABLY NEIGHBORS.
AND THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US, WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR SO OWN SO THAT IT'S NOT A YES.
SO WE NEED, LEMME JUST WRITE AND THEN I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU BEFORE FIVE TONIGHT.
WHAT WAS THIS RIGHT HERE? DUE TO THE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT.
SEE, THIS IS REALLY, THIS IS REALLY A DICK MURPHY.
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YEAH.THAT'S WHY DICK MURPHY HAS TO, PEOPLE SURELY TALK ABOUT FURNITURE, BUT, UH, MY WIFE PRISON.
ARE WE READY TO PAY THE BILLS? THE LAST GUY, THE LAST GUY THAT DOES, HAS TO MAKE THE MAJORITY.
COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES MOTION PAY BILLS.
COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND YE VOTE ONCE HE SIGNED.
HOW DOES UH, CEDAR CREEK COME INTO THE KITCHEN IN WATER? OH YEAH.
ABOUT 15, 15 INCHES CAME UP AND HAD HALF INCH OVER SATURDAY.
I WAS SURPRISED IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO.
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO RAIN READ CPSI GUESS DOWN CURIOSITY.
HE STILL BE PAID TO KNOW WHAT HE SAID.
RAY SAID WHAT? HE SAID IT'S NOT WORTH THERE THAT MUCH PROBABLY WILL WORK.
AND EVENTUALLY IT MAY BE THE THING TO DO, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK SO RIGHT NOW WHEN WE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR FUTURE.
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IN FAVOR? AYE.GET BACK TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.
I DECIDED NOT TO HAVE A MEETING ON TUESDAY NEXT WEEK, BUT WE'LL MEET ON THE FIFTH MONTH.
MOTION ADJOURN MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DELLER.