* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] THIS IS THE 29TH DAY OF JANUARY. NORMALLY WE MEET, BUT SINCE WE MISSED MONDAY, WELL, WE'RE HERE TODAY. UH, COMMISSIONER ROW, WOULD YOU OPEN THIS UP TODAY, PLEASE? YEAH. THAT FRANK, MR. GRACIOUS, HAVING A FATHER WILL BE, APPRECIATE THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF COMING TOGETHER LIKE THIS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AS WE DELIBERATE TODAY. WE THANK THE FOR THE LIFE GIVING REIGN THAT THE, AS ANTS LATELY AS USUAL, PLEASE LOOK WITH FAVOR ON OUR TROOPS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY, AND, UH, BRING THEM HOME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. JOIN MEGI TO FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION, AND AMONG GOD, THE INDIVISIBLE WITH VIRGINIA JUSTICE. FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO SEE TEXAS ONE, AN INDIVIDUAL. THIS IS A SPECIAL WEEK, UH, FOR ME. ANNIVERSARY OF 39 YEARS AGO. UH, OFFENSIVE STARTED 39 YEARS AGO, TOMORROW, 39 YEARS AGO. WEDNESDAY MORNING WAS WHEN I GOT WOUND, SO WE'RE ALWAYS THANKFUL TO SEE THIS WEEK COME AROUND AND THANKFUL THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD THE LAST 39 YEARS. TINA SAID IT WAS SIX OF THE HAPPIEST OF OUR LIVES. UH, Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. SO, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS JOHNNY CUMAN, OUR COUNTY TREASURER, AND HE'S GONNA PRESENT THE MONTH OF THE REPORT FOR DECEMBER AND THE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR OCTOBER AND THROUGH DECEMBER. AND, UH, FOR THE INVESTMENT COURT, OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER. Y'ALL HAD JUST ONE THING. IT LOOKS GOOD BECAUSE TIME OF YEAR. SO 3.3 MILLION IN DECEMBER. NOW, ANY QUESTION, RAISE 5 1 3. THERE NOW, NOTHING UNUSUAL OUTTA THE LINE OUTTA THE ORDINARY WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT FILE. I MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROW. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. JOHNNY. [00:05:29] YOU DIDN'T GET TIRED YET. READY? NO. I, THREE PAGES, UH, THREE PAGES. WHILE THEY'RE SIGNING THAT, UH, ANDREW, YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM THERE AND, UH, I THINK WE JUST ABOUT HAVE EVERYTHING SIGNED. HEY, GOOD MORNING TO Y'ALL. GOOD MORNING. FOR THOSE OF YOU, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT KNOW, ANDREW IS OUR, UH, CHIEF PUBLIC DEFENDER. Y'ALL OBVIOUSLY HAVE A BIG DOCKET, SO I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF, APPROXIMATELY, BUT Y'ALL JUDGE, I'LL TURN MY OFFICE LOOSE WITH A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THE PEOPLE'S DOLLARS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. SO I THOUGHT FAIR WOULD BE FAIR. I'D STICK MY HEAD IN AND KINDA LET YOU KNOW HOW YOUR MONEY'S BEING SPENT AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT. UM, FOREVER REPORT, WE ARE, UH, FROM THE FIRST DAY OF OPERATION, WE WERE FULLY STAFFED. UH, JUDGE NORWELLS KIND ENOUGH TO LEND ME HER, UH, BAILIFF. DAVID MILLER, WHO'S A RETIRED UNIVERSITY PARK DETECTIVE, UH, HE'S BEEN INVALUABLE AS OUR INVESTIGATOR. HIRED ONE OF THE MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTORS OUT OF THE PREVIOUS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, A GUY NAMED CHRIS JONES, WHO'S A VERY DILIGENT WORKER, AND THEN BROUGHT JACKIE MANN, OUR SECRETARY FROM JORDAN, JORDAN WITH US TO BE OUR OFFICE ASSISTANT. SO JACKIE SPEAKS FLUENT JORDAN, SO SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO LEARN A NEW LANGUAGE. SHE, SHE'S ABLE TO TURF ALL OF MY GRUNTS AND GROWS, AND SHE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. AND I'M JUST NOW NOTICING JACKIE, JIM, SHE LIVES IN YOUR PRECINCT. AND DAVID, UH, LIVES AND RAISED PRECINCT, AND I LIVE IN GARY'S PRECINCT. SO KIM, WE, WHEN IT'S TIME TO ADD STAFF, I'LL GO UP NORTH PART THE COUNTY, SEE IF I FIND SOMEBODY, WE'LL BE A LITTLE BETTER REPRESENTATIVE HERE. WE, UH, WE ACTUALLY, OR I ACTUALLY STARTED BEFORE THAT. WE WERE FULLY OPERATIONAL DECEMBER 1ST, SO WE'RE GOING ON A LITTLE BIT OVER TWO MONTHS NOW. UM, WE, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR STAFF PRETTY MUCH GOT ALL OF OUR COMPUTER AND SOFTWARE UP AND RUNNING. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE THING IN PROGRESS TO KIND OF MAKE THINGS ROLL A BIT SMOOTHER. BUT WE, UH, WE ARE AT THIS POINT, AHEAD OF WHERE I ANTICIPATED WE WOULD BE. AND I'M, I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH OUR PROGRESS. BUT THE ONLY THING WE REALLY NEED IS A SIGN. I GOTTA GET DANNY OR SOMEBODY TO COME OVER. AND FORTUNATELY, MOST OF OUR CLIENTS ARE INCARCERATED, SO IT'S NOT FI, FINDING US IS NOT A BIG ISSUE FOR US. STILL, JUST FOR AESTHETIC PURPOSES, WE PUT A NAME ON. WANNA LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROGRESS. WHEN I CHECKED OUR DATABASE THIS MORNING, WE HAD 216 OPEN FILES. UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INFLATED NUMBER BECAUSE OF WHAT WE STARTED DOING THE FIRST MONTH IN OPERATION. BUT I, I'M, I'M IMPRESSED THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT MANY CASES. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE FILED OUR FIRST REQUIRED REPORT WITH AUSTIN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING THE GRANT MONEY. AND I'LL PASS AROUND A COPY OF THAT FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT. SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT. THE, THE, THAT'S AUSTIN'S REPORT. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I CAME UP WITH. THEY, THEY SEND ME A BLANK AND I PLUG IN THE NUMBERS, AND THEN FRANKLY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND MISLEADING. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE, THE HARD NUMBERS THEY REQUIRED OF US, THAT'S WHAT WE GAVE THEM. THAT'S BEEN FILED WITH, UH, BRIAN WILSON DOWN IN AUSTIN. UM, AND I BELIEVE THE AUDITOR ALSO HAD TO, UH, FILE A SEPARATE REPORT AS FAR AS THE FINANCES. AND, AND I, I'M, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'VE COMPLIED WITH ALL OF OUR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PERIOD, SO THAT IT'S ABOUT THE TIME FOR THEM TO SEND US A CHECK. UH, OF THE 216 THAT WE'VE OPENED IN THAT SHORT OF TIME WE HAVE, UH, IDENTIFIED THE PLEA OR DISMISSAL, WE FINALLY DISPOSED OF 20 PLUS CASES. AND THAT NUMBER IS GONNA CLIMB PRETTY STEADILY, UH, AS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY MAY [00:10:01] GETS FULLY OPERATIONAL AND, AND, AND THE COURTS GET UP TO SPEED, PARTICULARLY THE NEW COURT. UH, SO THAT, I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT NUMBER. UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE JUDGES AND THE MAGISTRATES AND MYSELF HAVE AGREED ON A BOND SCHEDULE, UH, WHICH IS GOING TO, UH, HELP KEEP THE JAIL POPULATION, WE THINK FROM ESCALATE. IT'S GOING TO, BASICALLY, IF ANY TWO PEOPLE ARE ARRESTED, UM, YOU, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A DISPARITY IN THE BOND AMOUNT. THEY'RE BEING HELL ON. WE'VE COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT THAT WE THINK IS FAIR AND PRETTY UNIVERSAL. UH, IT ACCOMMODATES PEOPLE WHO NEED TO STAY IN JAIL. SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT, AND THAT'S GONNA SOLVE ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WE HAVE. BUT IF, UH, IF I'M REALLY PROUD OF ANYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE, AND I'M GONNA PAT, IF I'M PROUD OF ANYTHING, IS THAT I WAS SMART ENOUGH THIS MORNING TO MAKE EXCEL WORK AND COME UP WITH THIS COLORED COLORED GRAPH. BUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT REPRESENTS THE COUNTY JAIL POPULATION AT THE END OF EACH WEEK THAT WE'VE BEEN ADMITTED. SO THAT THE BLUE CHART OF THE BLUE POLE ON THE LEFT REPRESENTS, UH, NOVEMBER 15TH, THE FIRST DAY I ACTUALLY TOOK OFFICE AND THEN, UH, GOING ALONG FROM LEFT TO RIGHT TO FRIDAY ENDING THEREAFTER. SO YOU CAN SEE BY LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS AND THE NUMBERS OF THE NUMBER OF INMATES ON THE LEFT IS, IS THE HARD NUMBER OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY IN THE COUNTY JAIL. WE WERE ABLE, JUST IN THE SHORT TIME WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS TO, UH, KNOCK THAT NUMBER DOWN ROUGHLY 33%. NOW THEY'RE ON THE VERY RIGHT. THAT YELLOW LINE. SOMETHING HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND. WE GOT, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A DRUG RATE OR A HECK OF A PARTY SOMEWHERE. THERE'S ABOUT 30 EXTRA PEOPLE THERE WERE FRIDAY. SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE OFFICE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND WHERE THOSE PEOPLE CAME FROM. BUT I'VE BEEN VERY, VERY SATISFIED WITH THAT. WE'VE GONE FROM FOUR 30 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY JAIL WHEN WE STARTED DOWN TO 293, MIDDLE OF LAST WEEK. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ROUGHLY A 30%, UH, 33% DECREASE. AND I WAS TELLING COMMISSIONER LER EARLIER THIS MORNING, IF YOU PUT THE MATH OF THAT, IF YOU FIGURE $40 A PERSON PER DAY, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, UH, WE'RE VERY PROUD. THAT'S, THAT'S AN UNEXPECTED COST SAVINGS. I ANTICIPATE MY OFFICE IS GONNA BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY OUT OF THE ACTUAL END, THE DEFENSE LINE ITEM. BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A HIDDEN COST SAVINGS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT THE JAIL EVERY MORNING AND FIGURING OUT WHO DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE. WE, WE HAVEN'T JUST OPENED THE GATE. WE'RE NOT TURNING BAD GUYS LOOSE. BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, IF SOMEBODY'S BEING HELD IN COFFMAN OR RATHER MINOR CHARGED AND THEY HAVE SERIOUS CHARGES ELSEWHERE, AND SO WITH A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF WORK, SOMETIMES JUST A PHONE CALL, WE CAN RESOLVE THAT KAMAN COUNTY CHARGE AND SEND THEM ON DOWN TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, OR DALLAS COUNTY, OR ZA COUNTY OR WHOEVER WANTS EM WORSE THAN WE DO. AND THAT WAY WE DON'T BEAR THE COST OF FEEDING THEM AND CLOTHING THEM AND GUARDING THEM TO VARIETY OF MEDICINE. SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. THAT WAS NOT UNEXPECTED, THOUGH. THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATED. UH, AND WHEN THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS MADE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE SELLING POINTS WAS THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE POPULATION AT THE JAIL, NOT ELIMINATE THE POPULATION JAIL, RIGHT? DECREASE THE POPULATION. WE'RE NOT GONNA ELIMINATE IT. I SAW MY STAFF LAST WEEK, I THINK 250 PEOPLE IS A PRETTY REASONABLE NUMBER. MY BIRTHDAY'S IN MARCH, AND I TOLD 'EM THAT'S WHAT I WANT FOR BIRTHDAY PRESENTS. WHEN THAT ROLLS AROUND, I WANT THAT JAIL POPULATION TO BE ABOUT TWO 50 OR BELOW RIGHT AT THAT NUMBER. AND THAT'S MY ASKING ABOUT WHAT IT SHOULD BE. SHERIFF COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION BETTER THAN I COULD, BUT THAT'S A PRETTY REALISTIC NUMBER. UM, COUPLE UPCOMING CHALLENGES. WE'VE, UM, I PERSONALLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON A BETTER WAY OF TRACKING INFORMATION. WE FILED THIS REPORT, JUST, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING IT ON A SPREADSHEET, NOT AN AD HOC BASIS, BUT, UH, WE, WE'VE GOTTA FIND SOME WAY TO NOT SPEND A DAY AND A HALF PREPARING THAT REPORT EVERY TIME IT ROLLS AROUND. AND I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN DO THAT. SO I NEED TO WORK ON, IS THIS THAT SOFTWARE THAT'S FOUND THAT THE PLACE HILTON HEAD THERE? THERE'S, WE ARE LOOKING RIGHT NOW, UH, AS SOME PEOPLE CALL DEFENDER DATA.COM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUT WILDING, BUT THE CLOSEST PEOPLE WHO USE THEIR SOFTWARE THAT'S A COMPARABLE SIZE TO US, HAPPENS TO BE THE COUNTY IN HILTON HEAD, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE, UH, SOME OF THE NICER RESORT GOLF COURSES ARE. SO, DAVID MILLER, I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TRAVEL MONEY IN THE BUDGET. WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT GO OUT THERE AND CHECK THAT OUT FOR A WEEK OR TWO, COME BACK AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE THOUGHT WE COULD USE THAT. NOW WE'LL GET THAT ESCORTED AWAY. UM, AS FAR AS CHALLENGES, REALLY THE, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I'VE RUN INTO IS WE'VE BEEN A VICTIM OF OUR SUCCESS. I, I, GROWING UP IN THE MEDIA BUSINESS, I WISH THAT WE COULD GET THE WORD OUT AS FAST AS GUYS IN THE COUNTY JAIL DO. IT IS BECOME PRETTY COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'LL JUST WRITE US A LETTER TO SOMEBODY WILL COME OUT AND SEE US. SO WE GOTTA FIGURE A WAY TO SCREEN PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND I HADN'T FIGURED OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT YET, BUT WE, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COMING TO US, NOT JUST THE POINTING ORDERS FROM THE JUDGES, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAMAS AND WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS WILL SHOW UP AND ASK US TO GO TAKE CARE OF ELWOOD. AND AN HOUR LATER, WE REALIZED THAT ELWOOD NOT EVEN OUR CLIENT, THEY JUST ASSUMED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD COME DOWN AND GET FREE LEGAL SERVICES. SO, SO WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME GOOD PRESS. I THINK SOME OF YOU GUYS [00:15:01] HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE ARTICLES THAT, THAT THE MEDIA PUBLISHED HAD A REAL NICE DEAL IN THE MORNING NEWS LAST WEEK. BUT THE BIG THING, I, I WISH I COULD TELL YOU I WAS SOME KIND OF A WHIZ KID AND I DID ALL THIS MYSELF. NOW, THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN WAY TOO LONG. WE REALLY HAVE A TEAM EFFORT HERE. ALL THE JUDGES, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, ABSOLUTELY THE SHERIFF, DAVID BURNS, HAS NEVER TOLD ME NO FOR ANYTHING I, THAT EVERYBODY'S COMMITTED TO MAKE THIS WORK AND MAKE IT RUN SMOOTHLY. SO I'M PROUD TO COME TO REPORT YOU TODAY THAT, UH, THINGS ARE GOING BETTER THAN EXPECTED AND WE LOOK FOR 'EM TO GET EVEN BETTER IN THE FUTURE. I, I SAID, I DON'T WANT TAKE YOUR TIME. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL DO THE BEST. SO ALL THE JUDGES SEEM TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND ALL OF THIS. ABSOLUTELY. ANY JUST PHYSICAL PROBLEMS OR, OR, UH, PROBLEMS THAT COME UP DURING THE DAY, OUT AT, UH, AT YOUR OFFICE OR ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT WE CAN HELP THAT ANY OF US CAN HELP YOU WITH. CANDIDLY, SIGN WE'RE WHAT WE NEED TO SIGN. WE'RE GONNA REACH THE POINT SOONER THAN I EXPECTED THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP TAKING ON CASES AT THIS RATE. SO THE BASE OF OUR OPTION EITHER GONNA BE TO TELL THE JUDGES, NO, DON'T SEND US ANYMORE, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A WARM BODY TO HELP ME. I THINK EVERYBODY HERE HOPED THAT WE WOULD NEED MORE STAFF WITHIN SIX MONTHS. SO, AND WE CAN, UH, TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE INDIGENT DEFENSE INTO THIS. CAN WE NOT? YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING PRETTY LOW INDIGEN DEFENSE. WE CUT IT A LOT THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING YES, SIR. YEAH, THE OUTSIDE, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME MONEY IN HIS BUDGET THAT'S NOT ALLOCATED YET. OKAY. WE PUT 500,000 IN THERE AND THEN BUDGET FOR HIS CURRENT STAFF OKAY. THERE TO BEGIN WITH. SO WE DO HAVE SOME ANTICIPATING WHAT HE JUST SAID. ABSOLUTELY. SO THERE'S SOMEBODY IN TER THAT'S BILINGUAL. GOOD SECRETARIAL SKILLS IF YOU WANT. APPARENTLY WE'VE GOT TONS OF METABOLIC. NO, WE DON'T HAVE TONS. NOT TONS. WE DON'T HAVE TONS OF WELL, EVERYBODY IN HERE HAD HIGH HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS OF THIS PROGRAM WHEN IT STARTED, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, UH, MEETING EVERYBODY'S, UH, EXPECTATIONS. SO I, FOR ME, I'M HAPPY, HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT IT. I THINK ONE OF THE UNINTENDED RESULTS, OR MAYBE NOT ANTICIPATED RESULTS IS THE SHERIFF HAS BEEN SELLING BEDS OVER HERE, UH, AND THE NUMBER OF BEDS THAT HE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO SELL YEAH. OUTSIDE THE COUNTY WILL ALMOST PAY FOR THE DEBT. WHEN I, WHEN I LEFT THE OFFICE, HE ALREADY HAD, UH, I THINK AROUND A DOZEN INMATES FROM FORT BEND COUNTY THAT THEY WERE PAYING US TO HOUSE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOWS UP ON THE JAIL CENSUS THAT IIC THAT'S JUST ANOTHER GREAT ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM. WE'RE ALL VERY HAPPY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU TAKING CARE OF IT. THAT REPORT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, ALL AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. NEXT HAVE JASON BROWN. WE'RE GONNA PRESENT THE REASON ACTIVITY REPORT FOR LOW INCOME VEHICLE REPAIR, RETROFIT, ACCELERATED RETIREMENT PROGRAM, ET CETERA, AND TEXAS ADMISSION REDUCERS PROGRAM. HI, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. UM, AGAIN, I'M JASON BROWN. THIS, THIS CARRIE REESE WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS. I THOUGHT I RECOGNIZE YOU GUYS. YES, YES. WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AND I'VE GOT A COPY TO HAND OUT. CARRIE WAS GONNA START OFF, UH, WITH THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING. UH, WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION ON TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR MEETING PACKET, UH, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ONE ON THE TEXAS MISSION REDUCTION PLAN, WHICH I'LL PRESENT SOME INFORMATION ON, AND ONE ON THE LOW INCOME REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IN WHICH JASON WILL COVER IN A MINUTE. UH, HE IS HANDING OUT A PRESENTATION, UH, INCLUDED A A COUPLE SLIDES AT THE BEGINNING JUST TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE A LITTLE BIT OF THE, UH, BACKGROUND ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS AIR QUALITY HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. UH, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT SLIDE TWO, UH, THIS IS, UH, A PIE CHART THAT WAS DEVELOPED DURING THE MODELING FOR OUR NEW AIR QUALITY PLAN. AND REALLY THE POINT HERE IS JUST TO INDICATE THAT IN OUR REGION IN THE NINE COUNTY AREA, NEARLY 75% OF THE NITROGEN OXIDE EMISSIONS, WHICH IS THE MAIN POLLUTANT PRECURSOR TO OZONE COME FROM MOBILE SOURCES. UM, IT'S LIKE THREE SHOWS YOU A BREAKOUT OF THE ON-ROAD MOBILE SOURCES. AND HERE, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, THE LIGHT DUTY GASOLINE VEHICLES, OUR PASSENGER CARS AND TRUCKS OUT THERE COUNT FOR ABOUT 50% OF THAT. AND THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT WHEN JASON COMES TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LOW INCOME REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. AND THEN THE SLIDE ON PAGE FOUR IS A PIE CHART THAT BREAKS OUT THE NON ROAD EMISSIONS FOR YOU, UM, INTO THE DIFFERENT SOURCE CATEGORIES. AND I WOULD JUST POINT OUT HERE SOME OF OUR LARGER ONES COME FROM CONSTRUCTION AREA AND ALSO FROM LOCOMOTIVES, WHICH ARE TWO, UH, EMISSION SECTORS OR SOURCE GROUPS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE TUR PROGRAM, WHICH I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY, BACK TO [00:20:01] SLIDE THREE. UH, IS THAT LIGHT DUTY GASOLINE? IS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE, UH, THAT MUCH MORE DANGEROUS OR JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE OF IT, THE VOLUME, WHICH ACTUALLY IS, UH, DEMONSTRATED FOR YOU? ON SLIDE FIVE, UH, THE BAR CHART THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, SHOWS YOUR LIGHT DUTY GASOLINE VEHICLES AND TRUCKS, AND THEN ALSO YOUR HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES, WHICH ARE YOUR BIG, UM, DIESEL EQUIPMENT, ARE THE TWO MAIN CONTRIBUTORS IN THE AREA. AND WITH THE LIGHT DUTY, IT IS, UH, DUE TO VOLUME, JUST SO MUCH OF IT, IT IS DUE TO VOLUME. AND, UH, ALSO WHEN JASON GETS UP TO TALK ABOUT 10% OF THOSE VEHICLES, UH, DUE TO STUDIES, UH, WE KNOW ARE, UH, CONTRIBUTING TO ABOUT 50% OF THE POLLUTION. SO THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH HIGH TING VEHICLES IN, IN THE REGION, UM, WITH THE HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES. UH, YOU CAN SEE, LOOKING AT THIS CHART, THERE ARE FEWER OF THEM, AND THEY DO DRIVE A LOT LESS THAN THE LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES IN OUR REGION, BUT THEY INHERENTLY JUST PUT OUT THAT MUCH MORE OF THE NITROGEN OXIDE. SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE, THEY BECOME IMPORTANT. UH, SO JUST QUICKLY ABOUT THE TEXAS EMISSION REDUCTION PLAN, THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE IN 2001 BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. IT OFFERS, UH, MONETARY INCENTIVES FOR CLEAN DIESEL, DIESEL PROJECTS, UH, REPLACING VEHICLES, UH, REPLACING THE ENGINES, RETROFITTING THE VEHICLES, AND THEN ALSO SOME OTHER, UM, TYPE PROJECTS LIKE YOUR IDLE REDUCTION INFRASTRUCTURE EQUIPMENT. AND ON SITE SEVEN, UH, IT INDICATES THAT WE HAVE MADE THE STATE TCQ HAS MADE A COMMITMENT FOR THE REGION THAT WE WOULD BE REDUCING 22 TONS PER DAY OF NITROGEN OXIDE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM BY 2007. AND THAT COMES FROM THE COMMITMENT WE MADE IN OUR ONE HOUR OZONE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE 5% INCREMENT OF PROGRESS, WHICH IS REALLY THE TRANSITION PLAN BETWEEN THE ONE HOUR AND THE EIGHT HOUR. UH, TO DATE. UM, WE HAVE ONLY, OUR TCQ HAS ONLY FUNDED, UH, ABOUT 40, UH, 6% OF THAT COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO EPA. UM, THERE IS A DEFICIT THERE SHORTFALL. SO THAT BEING SAID, THE DEFICIT THAT WE'RE FACING, UH, THAT WE ALREADY NEED TO MAKE UP FOR, FOR THE ONE HOUR, WE'RE STILL BOUND TO THESE COMMITMENTS DUE TO ANTI-VAX SLIDING LAWS OR PROVISIONS IN THE CLEAN AIR ACT. AND THEN ALSO WITH NEW EIGHT HOUR STANDARD COMING IN, WHICH IS MUCH STRICTER, IT'S GONNA BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO MEET, UH, DETER PROGRAM, UH, HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE. IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM RATHER THAN A REGULATORY PROGRAM. AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE ON PAGE EIGHT FOLLOWS ALONG WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU DID HAVE IN YOUR READING PACKET, UH, OUTLINING THE LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENTS AND THEN ALSO THE REGULATORY MODIFICATIONS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM FINANCIALLY, UH, IN DURATION, AND THEN ALSO IN ELIGIBILITY OF PROJECTS. AND I WON'T READ THROUGH THEM, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THEM, UH, AS WE COME TO THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. UH, THEN I GUESS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JASON TO PUT, OH, YES. UH, THE, UH, THE HEARINGS ARE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE STARTING NOW, UH, TO DISCUSS, UH, PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC THE STATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. YES. UH, DO YOU, IS THERE ANYTHING GOING TO COME OUT IN THIS NEW, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE, OR WHAT RESTRICTIONS, UH, ARE IS TCEQ GONNA COME UP WITH IN THE STATE IMPLEMENTATION? ACTUALLY, IF YOU LET ME, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME SLIDES ON THAT AT THE VERY END THAT WE JUST INCLUDED IN YOUR INFORMATION THAT OUTLINES THE CONTROLS AND THE PROVISIONS, THE PROGRAM, THEY'VE INCLUDED THESE PAST COMMITMENTS, THESE 22.2 COMMITMENTS. UM, THEY'VE NOT GONE BEYOND THAT, INCLUDING IT THE EIGHT HOUR, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE PROGRAM WAS AUTHORIZED THROUGH 2010, THERE HAVE BEEN NO FUNDS APPROPRIATED TO IT, SO THEY COULDN'T MODEL IT. ONE OF OUR, OUR ISSUES THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION. SO, BUT WE, WE CAN, THERE ARE SOME MORE SLIDES AT THE VERY END ON THIS STUFF. OKAY. WELL, ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AND AND DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR OPERATION ON THE ROAD IS RESTRICTING CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, UH, TO BEGIN AT 10:00 AM 10:00 AM IN THE MORNING AND, AND STOP AT TWO OR 3:00 PM IN THE AFTERNOON. AND, UH, THIS WOULD GREATLY HURT THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE THAT THEY HAVE SET UP. OF COURSE. AND SO I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ABOUT RESTRICTING CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT TIME THAT THEY COULD RUN. THAT'S, IS THAT GONNA, THAT'S NOT A PROVISION THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN THE NEW PLAN. THAT, OF COURSE, WAS INCLUDED IN THE ONE HOUR PLAN, UH, THAT ALONG WITH SOME ACCELERATED PURCHASE, UH, PROGRAMS FOR CLEANER VEHICLES, THAT WAS GONNA BE, WHEN THOSE WERE ED, THE TURT PLAN WAS PUT IN ITS PLACE TO ACHIEVE THOSE REDUCTIONS IONS. BECAUSE [00:25:01] AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, EVEN THE COUNTIES AND CITIES OVER A THREE TO FOUR YEAR PLAN HAD REPLACED THEIR CURRENT DIESEL ENGINES WITH NEW CLEANER BURNING DIESEL ENGINES. BUT THAT'S STILL IN THE MILL. UM, IT IT THROUGH VOLUNTARY PROGRAMS? JUST VOLUNTARY PROGRAMS, YES. THE VOLUNTARY PROGRAMS, UM, NOT ONLY LIKE THE CHURCH PROGRAM, BUT THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENT AND THE ROT TC IS ALSO WORKING ON SOME POLICIES AND PROGRAMS TO, TO ENCOURAGE THE PURCHASE AND USE OF CLEANER EQUIPMENT VEHICLES. WASN'T THERE SOME REFUND OR A GRANT PROGRAM THAT, THAT, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE REFUNDED A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT IF YOU BOUGHT ULTRALOW SOFTWARE EQUIPMENT? UH, THE TURP PROGRAM DOES PROVIDE A MONETARY INCENTIVE. THEY REIMBURSE YOU UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEY CALCULATE WHAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR. AND THAT IS FOR THE HEAVY DUTY EQUIPMENT. YOU HAVE SCHOOL BUSES, REFUGE HAULERS, YOUR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. SO YES, BUT 2003, I THINK I BOUGHT TWO MOTOR GRADERS AND LOADED UHHUH AND THEY, I CALLED THEM, THEY SAID, WELL, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. WE'RE ON, WE'RE UNFUNDED. DO I STILL GET THAT IF I APPLY NOW? BECAUSE I, I REQUEST, I WENT ON THE INTERNET AND GOT THE PRINTOUT, BUT I GOT IT FILL OUT AND GOSH, IT'S WORSE THAN A, AND, AND LISTENING IN THE MILITARY, IT WAS ABOUT 15 PAGES AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF IT. RIGHT. EARLY ON WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE FUNDING. UH, THEY, UM, THEY, I, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING. THEY HAD ABOUT $30 MILLION A YEAR. AND SO IT WAS IN 2003 ACTUALLY THAT THE LEGISLATURE DID FIND ANOTHER SOURCE THROUGH FEES AND TAXES ON RENTALS AND SALES AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE LIKE A HUNDRED TO $130 MILLION A YEAR. SO THERE IS MORE OPPORTUNITY. IT IS A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS. AND THAT STATE YOU HAVE THE TALK TO TCQ AS FAR AS ELIGIBILITY AT THIS POINT, UH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE PROGRAM, WE HELP PROMOTE IT, BUT THAT IS THEIR PROGRAM. SO I SAID THAT'S STATEWIDE, THAT'S NOT, YES, JUST FOR OUR AREA. IT'S FOR NON-ATTAINMENT AND THEN MAINTENANCE AREAS OR NEAR NON-ATTAINMENT AREAS, LIKE AUSTIN FOR EXAMPLE IS ENTERTAINMENT STANDARD, BUT THEY'RE ON THE CUSP AND SO THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO COMPETE IN THE PROGRAM AT TIMES. IS THERE SOMEBODY I CAN CONTACT ON, ON GETTING THE PROCEED TO FILL THESE FORMS OUT? IS THIS RETROACTIVE THIS EQUIPMENT THAT I BOUGHT IN 2003? IS IT AL ULTRA LOW SOFTWARE? UH, YEAH, I, UM, THEY DO ALLOW SOME RETRO FUNDING, BUT I WOULD, UH, BASED UPON THE WORLD THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT'S USUALLY NO MORE, NO FEWER THAN OR NO MORE THAN 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO WHEN THEY ACTUALLY ANNOUNCE A CALL. SO I'M NOT SAYING NO, BUT YOU'RE NOT SAYING NO BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONE TO SAY NO. BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE EASY. THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS REALLY DIFFICULT AND OUR STAFF COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME THIRD PARTY FUNDS, YOU KNOW, FROM TCQ TO DO SOME SIMILAR TYPE PROGRAMS. AND SO WE'VE GOTTEN VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE. AND MY STAFF PERSON BACK HERE, AMANDA RUMOR, SHE'S A, A TECHNICAL W WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING OUT THIS APPLICATION. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO HELP PEOPLE OUT IN THE REGION. NOT ONLY THOSE APPLYING TO OUR PROGRAM, BUT WHERE THEY NEED ASSISTANCE APPLYING TO SAFE PROGRAM. 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST, WE'RE INTERESTED IN IN THEIR QUALITY BENEFIT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I'M GONNA PROVIDE JUST THIS, UH, QUICK BRIEFING ON THE, UH, LOW INCOME REPAIR AND RETIREMENT PROGRAM ON LA, ALSO KNOWN AS THE AIRHEAD TEXAS REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. AND AGAIN, IT WAS, UH, CREATED, UH, THROUGH THE STATE 2001 AND BECAME OPERATIONAL HERE IN COMAN COUNTY, UH, MAY, 2003. AND AGAIN, UH, JUST A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM. IT, UH, IT PROVIDES, UH, ASSISTANCE TO LOW LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS WHOSE VEHICLES HAVE FAILED THE EMISSIONS TEST. AND THOSE, UH, ELIGIBLE CAN RECEIVE UP TO $600 TOWARDS EMISSIONS RELATED REPAIRS OR UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO RETIRE A VEHICLE AND BUY A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE. AND THE, UH, FIRST SLIDE THERE, SLIDE 10 LA DALLAS FORT WORTH STATISTICS. THIS IS JUST SHOWING A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE GROWTH OF THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE PAST FOUR YEARS. UH, IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, WE'VE HAD ALMOST 16,000 APPLICANTS THROUGH THE PROGRAM. UH, WE HAVE REPAIRED, DIAGNOSED AND REPAIRED OVER 12,000 VEHICLES THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND THEN ALSO HAVE RETIRED, UH, OVER 600 VEHICLES LONG AMOUNT OF TIME. SLIDE 11, UH, QUICKLY, JUST ONCE AGAIN, SHOW, UH, THE BENEFIT OF THE AIRSHIP TEXAS PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY THOSE, UH, ONCE REPAIRS ARE [00:30:01] COMPLETED. NOT A SLIDE, I'M SORRY. UM, IT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE, SO IT'S USING COLOR, BUT WE'VE GOT THE TOP LINE THERE. IT IS THE LINE THAT IS SHOWING THE FAILING EMISSIONS. SO AS WE SEE TO THE LEFT THERE, WE'VE GOT PARTS PER MILLION NOX EMISSIONS RESULTS. AND AT THE BOTTOM WE'VE GOT VEHICLE MODEL YEAR, UH, 1979 THROUGH 1995. AND SO, AS I WAS SAYING, THE TOP LINE IS SHOWING WHERE THOSE VEHICLES FAILED. THIS IS BEFORE REPAIRS WERE DONE. THE MIDDLE LINE IS SHOWING THE PASS FAIL LINE FOR THAT PARTICULAR MODEL YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOP LINE IS ABOVE, THAT'S THE FAILING, UH, EMISSIONS RESULTS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE, WHERE THE VEHICLE, ONCE IT WAS REPAIRED, THAT WAS WHERE IT'S, UH, REINSPECTION RESULT WAS. SO THIS IS JUST BASICALLY SHOWING THAT THE EVENT OF THE PROGRAM OVER 70% REDUCTION IN NITROGEN OXIDE EMISSIONS HAD RESULTED. AND IN ADDITION, THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST A BRIEF, UH, BACKGROUND, ADDITIONAL AIR QUALITY INITIATIVES WITH THE 79TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE. THEY PASSED HOSPITAL 1611 IN 2005. AND THIS SET IN, UH, MOTION SOME PROVISIONS FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO GO TOWARDS AIR QUALITY INITIATIVES IN OUR REGION WILL, AS WE ARE LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR READING PACKET, WE ARE PUSHING TO USE THOSE ADDITIONAL EXCESS, UH, COLLECTED FUNDS THROUGH THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, GO AHEAD AND FUND ADDITIONAL AIR QUALITY INITIATIVES FOR OUR REGION. SINCE IT'S COLLECTED HERE, UH, WE'RE ASKING THAT THEY GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE THAT MONEY BACK TO OUR REGION FOR ADDITIONAL AIR QUALITY PROGRAMS. LIKE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, UH, BASICALLY WOULD HELP SUPPLY, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL OR EQUIPMENT SO THAT THERE COULD BE SOME MORE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS FOR EMISSIONS VIOLATIONS. UM, AND ENHANCEMENT OF THE AIR CHECK TEXAS PROGRAM WOULD ALSO HELP ME PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES FOR THOSE THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM NOW, BUT WE COULD SET SOME OTHER, UH, GUIDELINES SO THAT THEY COULD BE PARTICIPATING, UM, INTO THE PROGRAM. UM, SLIDE 13, AND CONSTABLE 1611, THE 80TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE. ITEMS, ITEMS, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST, UH, GOES ALONG WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT PROVIDED TO YOU TODAY, THE LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENTS AND THE REGULATORY MODIFICATIONS. BASICALLY THESE ARE LAID OUT IN THAT RESOLUTION AND THIS RESOLUTION THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, NORTH TEXAS, UH, CLEANER STEERING COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE, UH, TEXAS CLEANER WORK CREW. SO THEY PASSING, UH, THIS RESOLUTION AS WELL. AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. WHERE, WHERE ARE THE SENSORS LOCATED? COUNTY ? WELL, THERE ARE, UH, INSPECTION STATIONS, UH, UH, AROUND THE COUNTY THAT PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD THEN TAKE THEIR VEHICLE TO. AND, UH, DEPENDING ON THE MODEL YEAR IT GOES THROUGH, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT, UH, TESTS IN, UH, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE MODEL YEAR INVOLVED. SO THAT, UH, TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE AIR QUALITY SENSORS, AIR QUALITY SENSORS, HE PROBABLY DOESN'T KNOW. OH, YEAH. BUT I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY. IT'S ALMOST IN THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE COUNTY. IT'S, UH, BEHIND THE, UH, ROOM. AND, UH, THE REASON I LAUGHED WHEN THAT, WHEN HE, WHEN HE ASKED THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE BACK, WE WERE ALWAYS BEING TOLD THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, FAILING THE QUALITY. AND SO WE FINALLY, UH, HENDERSON COUNTY WAS GONNA HAVE TO PAY ABOUT $30,000 TO, UH, TO THE, TO BUY THEIRS. AND THEY HAD BROUGHT IN HENDERSON COUNTY AND OUR AIR QUALITY, UH, UH, VIOLATION. SO I WAS TRYING TO WORK A DEAL WHERE HENDERSON COUNTY WOULD JUST PAY KAMAN COUNTY THAT 30,000, AND WE PUT THAT SENSOR DOWN AROUND KEMP, YOU KNOW, FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE, WE GOT A LITTLE MONEY OUT OF IT, BUT NUMBER TWO IS FIGURING THAT AROUND THE KEMP AND THE LAKE AREA IS THE LEAST POLLUTED AREA IN THE COUNTY. BUT THEY DIDN'T WORK IF THEY WANTED OVER BY CHARLES STATE HOSPITAL, TCEQ WANTED OVER BY CHARLES STATE AND I, AND WE ARGUED AGAINST THAT BECAUSE THAT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM EAST TEXAS GOING TO DALLAS TO WORK WOULD WOULD AFFECT THAT. SO WE FINALLY AGREED ON PUTTING IT BEHIND [00:35:01] THE LIBRARY. AND, UH, SINCE WE'VE PUT IT UP, TON COUNTY HAS NOT FAILED A TEST. YEAH. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT, UH, CERTAIN PERCENT, 60% OR SOMETHING OF, OF COFFMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS DRIVE TO DALLAS EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE POLLUTION IN DALLAS COUNTY. SO THEREFORE THEY BROUGHT A SCENE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ARGUMENT FAR. BUT THE REAL ARGUMENT, THE REAL REASON THEY BROUGHT US IN WAS TO WHERE IT WOULD MAKE DALLAS, TERRANCE, COLIN, AND DENTON LOOK BETTER BECAUSE THEY'RE SHARING RIGHT. THEIR POLLUTION NOW WORK WITH US, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT POLLUTED DOWN HERE. BE THAT AS IT MAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S THIS SEEMS THAT THE EMISSIONS AFTER REPAIRS JUST GETS CUT. I MEAN, THAT THOSE REPAIRS CUT THOSE EMISSIONS BY 70 OR 80% HAS YES. AND AND WE'VE ALSO FOUND OUT NOW THAT SEVERAL YEARS HAVE GONE BY THE REPAIRS THEY DO SUSTAIN AS WELL, SO THAT THE, THE NEXT YEAR THAT VEHICLE GOES THROUGH THE TESTING IT IS PASSING. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO IT'S NOT GOING BACK TO THE PROGRAM. SO THAT IS LIKE AVAILABLE FOR ANY, UH, I GUESS YOU WANNA SAY INDIGENT OR WHATEVER THEY GO THROUGH, UH, THEIR CAR FAILS, THE, UH, THE, UH, TEST FOR THEIR, UH, THEIR PROCEDURE. UH, IT'S, IT'S BASED ON, UH, INCOME GUIDELINES, 200% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LINE. SO THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, GUIDELINES FOR IT. AND THEN THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN REGISTERED IN ONE OF THE NINE COUNTIES, UH, FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS. SO, BUT WHAT ABOUT FAILED? I'VE GOTTA LOOK OTHER THAT OKAY. THE, UH, WORKFORCE BOARD, UH, WORKFORCE FIELD MAKING THE DETERMINATION OF DOING THE STUDY ON WHO'S ELIGIBLE AND WHO'S NOT. I KNOW THAT THEY, THERE WAS THAT, UH, PARDON NOTE THAT SUGGESTIONS I GUESS, ON HOW TO, UH, BETTER IMPROVE THE PROGRAM. UH, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THE INCOME GUIDELINES. I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK, I MEAN, ACTUALLY WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN SAYS, OKAY, I, I WANT TO HAVE MY VEHICLE REPAIRED, UH, IT'S POLLUTING AND, AND I CANNOT AFFORD IT. I, I THINK I FALL IN THAT CATEGORY. WHO ACTUALLY TAKES THAT APPLICATION? WELL, WE, YES, WE DO. THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT IS ACTUALLY ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM IN THIS REGION FOR THE NINE COUNTIES. I MEAN, THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT IS UNDER UNDERSTANDING THAT WORKFORCE WAS, WAS OH, INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION ORIGINALLY WHEN IT WAS SET UP? YES, SIR. IT WAS, UH, KIND OF, UH, USING THE WORKFORCE CENTER TO HELP INITIATE THOSE APPLICATIONS. WHAT WE'VE DONE NOW TO MORE EFFICIENTLY RUN THE PROGRAM, UM, WHICH THERE WAS A CALL CENTER CREATED AS WELL. SO THERE'S A ONE 800 NUMBER INDIVIDUALS CALL, AND THEN THAT'S HOW THEY, UH, INITIAL THE, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS. AND THEN WE JUST, UH, GET DOCUMENTATION FROM THEM. SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO, UH, PASS TWO RESOLUTIONS TODAY? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I'D ALSO TO FINISH UP PRESENT TEACHING FOLLOW UP WITH THE SUMMARY OF THE STATE IMPLICATION. OKAY. UH, THERE'S REALLY JUST SOME MORE SLIDES PROVIDED FOR YOUR INFORMATION. UH, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE COMING UP VERY SOON, JANUARY 31ST AND FEBRUARY 1ST FOR MEETINGS WITHIN THE REGION ON THE NEW PLAN. UM, WE'VE SUMMARIZED, UH, SOME OF THE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL RULES IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES FOR YOU JUST TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHAT, UH, TCQ IS PROPOSING TO PUT INTO THIS CLAIM. SO WE'LL JUST PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER. AND WE SUMMED UP WITH OUR TREND LINES TO SHOW THAT LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY DID COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH A ONE HOUR STANDARD. SO WE'RE DOING GOOD ON THAT FRONT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR TREND LINE FOR THE EIGHT HOURS AS ON STANDARD, UH, WE'RE AT NINE SIX PARTS PER BILLION. WE NEED TO BE AT EIGHT FIVE. UM, WE'RE DOING A LOT REASON DOING A LOT, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. ONE MORE CASE IN POINT FOR NEEDING THESE PROGRAMS WHERE YOU GET RID OF THOSE SEEDING PLANS, WHAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD, UH, THE FIRST RESOLUTION YOU'RE ASKING US TO PASS IS, UH, RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE LOW INCOME REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WE DID THAT. WE DID THAT THREE YEARS AGO. YEAH. JUST, JUST TO CONTINUATION, JUST YEAH. TO CONTINUE. YEAH. UH, COMMISSIONER [00:40:01] SHANE MAKES THE MOTION COMMISSIONER LER SECONDS IT ALL, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR THE AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIED. AND THE NEXT ONE THEY'RE ASKING US TO DO IS, UH, RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE TEXAS EMISSION REDUCTION PLAN, THE TUR. AND, UH, I'D ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION. SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL MOTION CARRIES. WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO FOR YOU? EXTRA MONEY FOR SOME OTHER PROJECT CO WORKING ON THANK YOU MUCH. THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, CHARLIE KERNS IS HERE. CHARLIE'S, UH, REMEMBER WE, UH, AUTHORIZED, UH, JACK TO GET HOLD OF CHARLIE AND STUDY IN THE COURTHOUSE REGARDING OUR, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IF WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROJECT IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE, UM, HANDICAP, UH, A-D-A-A-D-A MORNING JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. UH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE. I TRIED TO COME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I HAD A LITTLE ICE PROBLEM, SO I DIDN'T , BUT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, GOT THE HANDICAP REVIEW DONE. UM, I HEARD BACK FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY THAT WAS PART OF THIS REVIEW WE WANTED TO THROW IN HERE TOO AND GET YOU SOME UPDATE ON THAT. AND, UH, WE ARE WRAPPING UP THE REPORT. I DO NOT HAVE A FILE TODAY, BUT I WILL GET THAT BACK TO YOU IN A COUPLE WEEKS. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE. UM, LIKE I TOLD YOU, I WILL JUST KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO DATE. SO, UM, REALLY NOTHING UNEXPECTED CAME UP. I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AND TELL YOU WE ARE WORKING ON, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS AROUND AND THINGS MOVING FORWARD, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE OR REVIEW BEFORE WE ISSUE THE FINAL. THAT'S KIND OF WHY, WHY I'M HERE TODAY. SO I HAD, UH, VISITED WITH CHARLIE AFTER, UH, THE COURT DECIDED, UH, INSTEAD OF A MAJOR RENOVATION JUST TO DO THE, THE DO DOWNSTAIRS, UH, COURTROOM. AND, UH, SO I ADVISED CHARLIE ON THAT AND UM, I ALSO ADVISED HIM THAT, UH, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE JUDGES, UH, WANT TO START, UH, PUSHING AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON, UH, THE NEED FOR WHOLE NEW COURTS BUILDING AGAIN. SO, UH, WE'LL JUST, UH, SEE WHAT TRANSPIRES THERE, CHARLIE, SIR. BUT APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND I BE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT REPORT. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. WHAT TIMEFRAME I THINK YOU SAID YOU'LL HAVE. I JUST, UH, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. WE'LL HAVE IT AND I'LL COME BACK FOR THEM. WILL THIS BE ABLE, CHARLIE, WILL THIS BE ABLE TO GIVE US A DOLLAR AMOUNT BASICALLY, UH, AS TO, UM, WHAT THAT'S GONNA TAKE TO AADA A THEN TO GET THE MEET AADA A REQUIREMENTS, IT'LL GIVE YOU A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE AREAS THAT AFFECTED CONSTRUCTION IF WE WOULD'VE GONE THROUGH THE ORIGINAL TWO COURTROOMS AND THE VA SPACE. OKAY. IT WILL NOT GIVE YOU A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THE AREA SUCH AS PARKING, UH, THE OTHER RESTROOMS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. BUT YEAH, THAT'S FINE. YEAH, WE'RE NOT. THANK YOU, UHHUH. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSED, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE 2006 RATIO PROFILE AND REPORT FOR COPPER COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT COURT SHOULD BE ACCEPTING, NOT APPROVING. GOOD MORNING IS THAT THE MORNING SHOULD BE ACCEPTED, AND THAT'S WHERE THE MOTION SHOULD READ IS THEY BE ACCEPTED. SO IT SAYS APPROVED, DOESN'T IT? UH, SHOULD BE ACCEPTED. ONE QUESTION. CONSTABLE GARLAND, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMPLAINTS? NO WRITTEN COMPLAINTS. OKAY. NO, NO. NO WRITTEN COMPLAINTS REGARDING ANY RACIAL PROFILING PROBLEMS? NO, SIR. ALL GOOD. GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF IT? YES, WE DO. Y'ALL CAN TAKE, WE CAN STUDY IT. HAVE Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS OF CONSTABLE GAR HERE? NO. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL INYE. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, [00:45:01] THIS NEXT ITEM I PUT ON THE AGENDA, COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER USED TO BE COMMISSIONER, UH, STATE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, JIM JACKSON FROM DALLAS HAS FILED A BILL TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY STANDARDS FOR INDIGENT HEALTHCARE FROM 21% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF POVERTY. UH, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, THEN YOU WILL SEE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS GOING MORE INTO HEALTH AND LESS MONEY GOING INTO ROAD BRIDGES, LESS MONEY GOING INTO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, LESS MONEY GOING INTO THE OFFICER'S OFFICE, LESS MONEY GOING INTO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO, UH, I, UH, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. UH, UH, COLLIN COUNTY ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO WENT TO, UH, 25% AND IN FIVE YEARS THE COUNTY, ANOTHER ONE BROKE JUST ON 25%. AND, UH, HAS IT BEEN LEFT UP TO EAST COUNTY IN THE PAST AS TO WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WOULD BE? YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS THE MINIMUM, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE A A HUNDRED PERCENT, WHICH MEANS LAST YEAR WE SPENT CLOSE TO $500,000, WHICH MEANS THAT IF THIS BILL WERE TO PASS, YOU'D BE SEEING THAT INCREASE, I IMAGINE GUESSING TO ABOUT 200. ABOUT 2 MILLION, YEAH. BECAUSE THAT WOULD TAKE THE, UH, THAT WOULD TAKE THE, THE POVERTY LEVEL WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT TO TAKE IT ABOVE $30,000. YEAH. UH, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ACTUALLY FILED YET, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WHAT'S COMING IS, UH, FOR ALL, FOR EVERY COUNTY IN TEXAS TO SEND TO AUSTIN, 8% THEIR 8% EACH YEAR, AND THEN AUSTIN WILL LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE HOW TO DI IT OUT ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. YEAH, WE CERTAINLY COULDN'T LIVE WITH THAT. WE'RE REALLY GETTING HIT AND NEVER HEARD OF THE STATE TAX AND THE COUNTY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT IS THOUGH. GETTING HIT BOTH SIDES OF THE YEAH, YEAH. BOTH SIDES OF THE MANDATE. 8% AND 8% IS 800,000. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, AND WHO, WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? THEIR TAXES? YEAH, WE HAVE TO SET THE TAX RATE. THAT'S JUST IGNORANT. YEP. OH YEAH. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER BILLS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO CAMPUS, AS YOU WELL KNOW OVER HERE, THEY'RE SAYING YOU CAN ONLY RAISE THIS MUCH MONEY EACH YEAR, BUT OVER HERE THEY'RE SAYING, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY ON INDIGENT HEALTH. UH, JUST THEY, ANYWAY, THAT'S, I'VE GOTTEN OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW, BUT I, IF Y'ALL FEEL THE WAY I DO, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, PASS RESOLUTION OPPOSING HOUSE BILL FOUR 80. I'M OPPOSED TO THAT JUDGE OF, OF RAISING IT A HUNDRED PERCENT. I'M NOT SURE. OURS DOESN'T NEED TO BE RAISED SOME, BUT, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT ARE WAY, WAY OUTTA LINE. SO OPPOSED TO THAT COMPLETELY. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION GUIDELINE. THAT'S A LOT EASIER. MM-HMM . UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROXIMATION THE CLAIM FRIDAY, FEBRUARY THE SECOND AS NATIONAL WIRE RED DAY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, ART AWARENESS DEAL. SO THE HEART ASSOCIATION IS ASKED THAT WE DECLARE THAT FRIDAY EVERYBODY WORLD READ AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT HEART DISEASE IS DOUBT THERE. SO I DIDN'T THAT MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND Y'ALL DON'T FORGET TO WEAR A RED ON FRIDAY. UH, NEXT DISCUSS. CONSIDER AWARDING BID ZERO SEVEN DASH SIX ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR WASTE HAULING AT KEN CONVENIENCE STATION, COUNTY PRECINCT. OKAY. WE HAVE THREE BEDS THIS MORNING AND THE FIRST BED IS FROM, WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, OPEN, UH, THOSE BIDS. SO MANY MOTION MADE BY Y'ALL GOING TO TAKE CARE OF HIM THIS MORNING. TAKE CARE OF HIM. OKAY, [00:50:03] COMMISSIONER, SECOND BACK. COMMISSIONER, ER, ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. GO AHEAD JACK. ALRIGHT, MOTION BID FROM, UH, ALLIED WASTE. UH, COURSE. CAN WE ASK FOR TWO SEPARATE BIDS, RIGHT? 30 AND 40? YES SIR. OKAY. OKAY. THEY'RE BIDDING. UH, THE ROLL OFF CONTAINER 30 YARD AT $395 PLUS A $6 FLAT FUEL FEE ON THE 40 YARD. UH, THEY'RE BID $445 WITH A $6, UH, FUEL FEE, NO BID ON THE 30 YARD. UH, ROLL OFF OF THE CAMP COMPACTOR, UH, FOR THE 40 YARD COMPACTOR, 4 65 PLUS $6 FUEL FEE. NEXT ITEM ON THE UH, RECYCLABLE CONTAINER. 30 YARD CONTAINER $375. IS THAT RECYCLE? YES SIR. PLUS SIX, UH, FUEL FEE. SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE. 3 75 PLUS A $6 FUEL FEE. AND ON THE 40 YARD IT IS ALSO 3 75 PLUS A $6 FUEL FEE. AND THEY HAVE A NOTE. SHOULD THE RECYCLE LOAD BE REJECTED BY THE CENTER, COTTON COUNTY WILL BE BILLED FOR LANDFILL. NEXT BID IS REPUBLIC WASTE SERVICES OF TEXAS OUT HUTCHINS, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THIS REPUBLIC WASTE SERVICES. THEY'RE ALSO A DBA DUN DISPOSAL. OKAY, ON THE ROLL OFF PLANTER, THEY'RE BIG ON THE 30 YARD, $230 PER HAUL, PLUS A 22 PER TON OVER SEVEN TONS WITH A RENTAL FEE OF 125 PER MONTH. SO THAT'S 230 PER UH, LOAD UP TO SEVEN TONS. A $22 FEE FOR UH, OVER SEVEN TONS AND A 1 25 RENTAL. NO BID ON THE 40 YARD ON THE SECOND CONTAINER. NO BID ON THE 30 YARD. ON THE 40 YARD IS 260 PER HAUL. UP TO SEVEN TONS WITH A $22 CHARGE. UH, THAT'S THE COMPACTOR. YES SIR. SEE, SEE. HOW MUCH IS THAT? 22. IT'S TWO 60 PER HAUL UP TO SEVEN TONS WITH A $22 PER TON OVER SEVEN TONS. ALSO WITH A $125 MONTHLY RENTAL. THE UH, RECYCLABLE CONTAINER IS $260 PER HAUL WITH 125 FEE PER MONTH. NEXT BID IS FROM IESI OUT OF BOX SPRINGS. FIRST CONTAINER, NO BID ON 30 YARD. UH, ON THE 40 YARD IS 3 98 PER HALL ON THE, UH, CONTAINER FOR THE COMPACTOR NO BID. 30 YARD ON THE 40 YARD IS 4 54 PER HAUL. [00:55:01] AND ON THE RECYCLE CONTAINER, UH, 30 YARD IS $295. NO BID ON THE 40 YARD, NO RENTAL FEE OR NO. LAST BIT IS NATURE CALLS AT, UH, TARRELL, TEXAS ON THE FIRST CONTAINER OF THE ROLL OFF. $349 PER HAUL. IT'S 30 YARD, RIGHT? 30 YARD. YES SIR. AND THE 40 YARD IS 3 98 ON THE CONTAINER FOR THE COMPACTOR NO BID. 30 YARD $465 FOR THE 40 65. 4 65. AND ON THE RECYCLE CONTAINER, THE 30 YARD IS $180 AND THE 40 YARD IS ALSO 180. AND THEY HAVE A NOTATION THAT HOLLER TO KEEP REBATES ON RECYCLING MATERIALS. THAT'D BE ANYTHING THEY MAKE. THAT IS ALL THE BID WE HAVE. NEED TIME TO STUDY THOSE OR KEEP UP WITH TIME TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS? I WANNA SEE SOME OF THE BID. OKAY, TABLE THIS TABLE UNTIL NEXT WEEK. TABLE THE AWARD. AWARD. OKAY. MOTION MADE TO TABLE THE BID. UH, COMMISSIONER ALL FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIED. I ONE POINT ANOTHER COMMITTEE BECAUSE YOU AND CAN GO. YEAH. UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONSIDER OPENING AND AWARDING BID. ZERO SEVEN DASH FIVE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR OIL STAND. MOTION BID? YES SIR. WE HAVE THREE. ALRIGHT, I'D ENTERTAINED THE MOTION TO OPEN THOSE BIDS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL INYE. MOTION CARRIED. YOU CAN OPEN THE BIDS. JACK, SIR. FIRST BID IS FROM ARMOR MATERIAL OUT OF TYLER. FIRST ITEM, UH, FOB PLANT IS $40 A TON DELIVERED TO PRECINCT ONE IS 49 75 PER TON DELIVERED? YES SIR. SAY THAT AGAIN. 49 49 75 DELIVERED TO PRECINCT 2 51 75 PER TON DELIVERED AT PRECINCT 3 50 75 PER TON AND PRECINCT. FOUR $49 AND 25 CENTS PER TON. UH, FIRST TIME PRECINCT FOUR. WE WORK ON THAT. NEXT IS RK HALL CONSTRUCTION OUT. OKAY. FOB VENDORS PLANT $45 AND 75 CENTS PER TON. DELIVERY PRECINCT ONE $54 AND 63 CENTS PER TON. UH, DELIVERED PRECINCT TWO $53 AND 43 CENTS PER TON. DELIVERED PRECINCT THREE $50 AND 7 CENTS PER TON AND DELIVERED PRECINCT FOUR $55 AND 95 CENTS PER TON TIME. [01:00:04] LAST BID IS ROSA SAND CAROL AND THE FIRST ITEM, UH, VENDOR'S, UH, LOCATION. THEY HAVE THAT LISTED AS RED FOX ROAD OFF FM 25 78. UH, $44 PER TON PICKED UP DELIVERED TO PRECINCT ONE $47 AND 50 CENTS PER TON. PRECINCT 2 47 50 PRECINCT, THREE $47 PRECINCT. FOUR $48 AND 75 CENTS. WAS IT FOB 44 75? UH, FOB UH, VENDOR PLACE. UH, OKAY. 44. 44. EVEN 4 44 EVEN. YES SIR. AND I HAVE NOTATIONS ON THE, UH, UH, SPEC THAT ALL SAND, UH, THREE X MINUS AGGREGATE AND UH, ALL SAND PRO CONSISTING OF SAND, RECYCLED ASPHALT GROSS DOWN TO THREE QUARTER MINUS. AND THE THIRD ROTATION IS ALL SAND BASE. A UH, BASE PRODUCT CONSISTING OF RECYCLED ASPHALT INCH AND A QUARTER MINUS AND SAND BLEND. RECOMMEND FOR THREE INCH BASE. MAKES ANY SENSE. WHERE DO HE'S LOAN EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOB ARMOR. OF COURSE. THAT'S ENTIRELY YES SIR. AND WE DON DRIVE TARTY. WE DRIVE TITLE, THAT'S FOR SURE. I MIGHT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, UH, AWARD TO LIC, UH, AS PRIMARY MAYBE HAVE A ARMOR AS A BACKUP VENDOR IF, UH, ZO DOESN'T HAVE MATERIAL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ADAM, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK TO AWARD THE BID TO PRE AND, UH, HAVE AS A BACKUP IN CASE MORE DISCUSSION. ALL VOTES. AYE. MOTION TO CARRY. THANK YOU JACK. HOW DO YOU SPELL B-R-A-B-C. YOU SPELL B-R-A-Z-L-R-A-C-A-L-A-I-K. APPLE. IK. THANK YOU JUDGE. DISCUSSION FOR COUNTY THREE. IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS A, UH, UH, PRECINCT THREE LOCATED A, UH, A USED TRUCK THAT WAS A GOOD, GOOD PRICE HERE IN THE COUNTY AND, UH, SINCE IT WAS BOUGHT FROM A, UH, TO BE PURCHASED FROM THE INDIVIDUAL, I FELT LIKE WE MIGHT WANT TO, UH, PUT THAT OUT FOR BID. UM, AFTER I PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, COMMISSIONER SPOKE WITH, UH, CHUCK KIM. HE ALSO, UH, AGREED THAT WE NEED TO, ANYTIME WE BUY A VEHICLE, I EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE BELOW THE PUT OUT BID. ALRIGHT, WE ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND IT BY COMMISSIONER TELLER. ALL ACT MOTION CARRIES. GOOD. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING. UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE IT ON FEBRUARY THE 16TH AND THE 19TH IS A HOLIDAY. WE MEETING ON THE 20TH ON THAT TUESDAY. DO YOU KNOW, UH, I DUNNO IF WE, UM, TALKED THAT FAR AHEAD, JACK, THAT IS LESS, UH, UNDER THAT 25,000. WHY DOES CHUCK THINK WE HAVE, WE NEED TO PUT THAT UP FOR BID? WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THERE. UH, WE HAVE PURCHASED ONE TRUCK, UH, USED HERE THIS YEAR. AND TECHNICALLY IF YOU ADD THAT TRUCK WITH ANOTHER TRUCK, WE'D BE OVER 25,000. BUT YOUR ONLY ONE [01:05:01] BUYING THAT FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL. I MEAN, I DON'T MIND PUTTING VENDORS, YOU MEAN, YOU MEAN I CAN'T BUY A TRUCK FOR 18,000 FROM THIS VENDOR AND 18,000 FROM THAT VENDOR. A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL. IN THEORY THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN, THAN BUYING 10,000 WORTH OF SAND FROM THIS GUY AND 15 FROM THE NEXT GUY AND SO ON. UH, IF IT ADDS UP TO 25,000 IN A YEAR'S TIME, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO BID IT OUT. I UNDERSTAND THAT COMING FROM ONE VENDOR, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT COMING FROM EACH'S INDIVIDUAL. BUT CHUCK THINKS WE NEED TO DO IT, THEN WE NEED DO IT. CHUCK. UH, I THINK ANOTHER THEORY ON THAT IS THAT ANYTIME YOU'RE BUYING VEHICLES FROM INDIVIDUALS, I THINK MAYBE THAT THE TAXPAYER MAY QUESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GETTING THE BEST DEAL? UH, IF ITS FROM A DEALER, UH, WELL THAT COULD BE. THERE'S REALLY, I THINK IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT. UH, STATES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUY WITHOUT A AUCTION, PUBLIC AUCTION, THAT TYPE OF MONEY, HAVE YOU GOT SPECIFICATIONS FOR A USED VEHICLE? WE WOULD SAY A UH, YOU WRITE JUST EXACTLY LIKE THE VEHICLE THAT GUY HAS. I LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. PLEASE. UH, YOU WOULD TAKE THE MIDDLE SPEC ON THAT TRUCK. IF IT'S A WATER TRUCK, UH, YOU'D SAY A, UH, 2001 OR NEWER, UH, X AMOUNT OF TON OF TRUCK WITH A CERTAIN GALLON OF WATER TRUCK NOT TO EXCEED MILEAGE OF WHATEVER. I GUESS YOU, YOU DON'T WANT TO TIE IT DOWN TO THAT TRUCK. YOU MUCH. THAT'S THE MINIMUM SPEC YOU'LL TAKE. LET'S HOLD THEM ON THE 26TH. OKAY. UH, ARE YOU GONNA NEED SPECS FOR THIS? YEAH, HE'S GOT SPEC. I'VE GOT A GENERAL SPEC ON THE TRUCK THAT HE'S PICKED OUT AND IT'LL BE WRITTEN OFF SOMEWHERE FROM THAT ON THE 26TH. ON THE 16TH STILL? I THINK SO. OKAY. NEXT. UH, JUST DID WE PASS THAT? NO, WE DIDN'T PASS THE DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK YET. WE DIDN'T PASS. WE DID THE WATER TRUCK. WE DID PASS THE WATER TRUCK. WE DID THE TRUCK, RIGHT? WE DID. WE DIDN'T. THAT'S RIGHT. SHANE MADE CLOSE, SECONDED AND ALL VOTED FAR. YEAH. YEAH. FOR THE WATER TRUCK. YEAH. YOU GOT THAT. ALRIGHT, NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK. JUDGE. THIS IS A SIMILAR, UH, DEAL EXCEPTION OF THIS TRUCK IS, UH, WAY ABOVE THE BID LIMITATION. SO, UH, WE DEFINITELY HAD THE BID THAT STRUCK OUT. YES. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LISTED SEPARATELY, HAVE IT ON THE SAME, DID YOU SEND THE 16TH CLOSE? 16 CLOSE. 16 OPEN 26 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. JUDGE. ALONG ALONG THOSE LINES RIGHT THERE, UH, I WOULD LIKE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, NOT IMMEDIATE FUTURE, BUT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP, UH, TO DETERMINE, 'CAUSE I'VE GOT A DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK THAT ANYBODY IN THIS COURT IS WELCOME TO USE AT ANY TIME. UH, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THE LEGALITIES OF SHARING EQUIPMENT, UH, ALSO THE LEGALITIES OF POSSIBLY BUYING EQUIPMENT, UH, COUNTYWIDE. AND ALSO THEN, UH, THE, THE PROBLEM IN SCHEDULING THAT EQUIPMENT OUT, WHICH WOULD'VE TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT FOUR COMMISS COMMISSIONS RIGHT NOW THAT I'LL AGREE ON, I THINK TWO YEARS, EVERY TWO YEARS, IT COULD BE A CHANGE OF OPINIONS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE I CAN SEE WHERE IT CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT ON. I'D LIKE TO DO A WORKSHOP ON THAT. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BRING IN THE, UH, OUR FOREMAN TO PREVENT US FROM VIOLATING THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. LET OUR FOREMAN DO THE, DO THE NEGOTIATING AND THE WORK AND THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE EQUIPMENT. LIKE I HAVE A LAY DOWN MACHINE AND, AND A DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK AND A CHIP SPREADER. UH, AND LET OUR FOREMAN WORK, WORK THAT OUT. I THINK IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN, UH, THAN CREATING BUREAUCRATIC, UH, SYSTEM AND ALSO KEEPS COMMISSIONERS OUT OF THE VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETING ACT. THAT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BUY 'EM AND SHARE 'EM OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, BUY 'EM AS THE COUNTY. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY BUY 'EM IN THE DISTRICT. I DON'T, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO, BUT I'M ALL FOR OF THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT. UH, BACK IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, GOLLY. YEAH, [01:10:01] I SPENT SEVERAL YEARS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY NEED TO GO TOGETHER AND BUY A LAY DOWN TRUCK, ASPHALT THE WHOLE DEAL FOR THE COUNTY AND THEN PASS IT AROUND. AND THEY DID IT AND THEY DID IT WORKED FINE FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THEN IN 83 WE HAD A NEW COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THAT EQUIPMENT DIDN'T GET USED. IT FINALLY WAS SOLD TO COURT. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. I WASN'T HEARING THAT, BUT I, SO, BUT THE REASON WAS IS THAT THE COMMISSIONER COULD NOT AGREE ON HOW LONG EACH, EACH COMMISSIONER WAS GOING TO USE IT WHEN THEY WERE GONNA GET IT. BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT IT IS EVERYBODY WANTED IT AT THE SAME TIME. YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WARMED UP IN MAY, THEY, EACH COMMISSIONER WANTED IT MAY, JUNE AND JULY AND AUGUST. AND, AND IT JUST, IT JUST HAD A PROBLEM WORKING IT OUT THAT WAY. SO I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING HERE IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. BUT, UH, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, THAT IT WAS TRIED AND IT WAS MY IDEA. IT DIDN'T, IT WORKED FOR FINE FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THEN IT DIDN'T WORK. I HAVE, I HAVE AN ASPHALT LAY DOWN MACHINE. I DID A MILE FOR JERRY. OKAY. IF YOU DO THAT, AT THAT TIME IT WAS $40,000 MATERIAL ONLY PER MILE. PEACHTREE WOULD'VE CHARGED 65,000 TO LAY IT DOWN. AND THE MATERIAL, UH, THAT MACHINE IS PAID FOR ITSELF THREE TIMES OVER FOR THE ROADS THAT I'VE DONE. UH, AND I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. NONE OF US HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO USE IT. MORE THAN A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW, FIVE MILES. THAT'S, YEAH. THERE'S NO WAY TO, AND I'M CONVINCED THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE OUR FOREMAN MORE INVOLVED SO WE DON'T VIOLATE THE TODAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. LET'S PUT IT ON A WORKSHOP WE WANT. YEAH. PICK A DATE, PUT IT ON A WORKSHOP AND WELL, I JUST WANT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSE ON, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FLAGS THAT, THAT, THAT CAN SNAP THROUGH THE PROCESS. I REALIZE THAT. AND ALSO IN THE GUILTY OF DOING ABOUT, YEAH, I THINK EVEN ABOUT EQUIPMENT THAT WE OWN ALREADY CURRENTLY, THE ONLY, ONLY STATUTE THAT THAT WOULD, THAT MAY COME INTO PLAY AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BECAUSE YOU CANNOT, CANNOT HIRE SOMEBODY TO WORK IN BOTH PRECINCTS. BUT YOU CAN'T SHARE EQUIPMENT. YOU CAN SHARE EQUIPMENT AND YOU CAN SHARE PEOPLE. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THEY STAY ON MY PAYROLL. YEAH. AND THEY CAN DO THAT. UH, BUT WELL, WITH THAT I CAN SEE THAT, UH, IF I LOAN, UH, OUR DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK, UH, TO YOU FOR EXAMPLE, I WANT SEND THE DRIVER ALONG WITH IT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BORROW SOMETHING, IT'S GONNA BREAK. SO IF YOU GOT REPRESENTATIVE BUREAU PRECINCT THERE, WHEN IT DOESN'T BREAK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WELL, ALSO SOME EQUIPMENT, NOT JUST ANYBODY YOU DON'T WITH JUST ANYBODY I SEND MY ASPHALT DAY DOWN MACHINE, I'LL HAVE IT. YOU DON'T WANNA GET TOO HOT AND BLOW IT UP. ANYWAY, LET'S PUT ON THE AGENDA. WE CAN. YEAH. WE THINK THAT'S A, UH, WELL, AS FAR AS THIS ONE GOES, IF WE GET THE VOTE ON THE ADVERTISE FOR THIS, THIS DISTRIBUTOR TRADE, MR. SHANE MAKES THE MOTION AND I THINK JERRY AND ALL IN FAVOR. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S DONE. AND JACK'S NOT STAND UP THERE ANYMORE. SO I, UH, NOW WE HAVE THREE ITEMS DEALING WITH, UH, SHADOW LAKES. PHASE TWO, ACTUALLY THE PERSON'S PHASE ONE DISCUSSING CONSIDER RELEASING THE PERFORMANCE BOND AND ENTERED INTO THE TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND FOR SHADOW LAKE SUBDIVISION. PHASE ONE, PRECINCT THREE EXPLANATORY RIGHT. ITSELF EVERY, FOR US TO RELEASE A, UH, FARM BOND AND GO INTO A MAINTENANCE BOND WITH YOU, YOU GOT THE VALUE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND FIGURED OUT. YEAH. ALL THAT TOUCH THE PAPERWORK THIS TO WANT COME UP. SURE. HOW MANY MINUTES DO YOU HAVE? 15. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE OF THESE YOU'RE GONNA TAKE FIRST BECAUSE ONE SAYS EXCEPT SAYS PHASE OH, PHASE ONE. PHASE PHASE ONE. PHASE ONE. OKAY. OKAY. SEE YOU GOTTA CALL THE SAME THING I DID. I REALIZE WE DOING PHASE ONE WHEN I GOT THIS WRONG. [01:15:02] WHICH ONE ARE WE DOING? DISCUSS PHASE ONE BOND THURSDAY, RELEASE THE PERFORMANCE BOND AND ENTER INTO A TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND ON PHASE ONE. RIGHT. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT AMOUNT? NINE 30? NO, THAT, THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S NOT THE BOX YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE OH, THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE BOX. OH, I'M SORRY. THIS IS TO COMPLETE THE, THE WORK ON BASE. RIGHT. THE BID TO COMPLETE THE WORK ON. RIGHT. WE, WE DON'T, NOT CONCERNED WITH THAT. OKAY. WELL, WELL WHAT'S THIS LETTER FROM PBS AND J SAYS THAT, OKAY, THIS ITEM NEEDS TO BE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT LAKE PHASE ONE. RIGHT. UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AFTER, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE FINISHING UP THE FIBER OPTICS AND WHAT THIS IS CLEANING THE DITCHES AND PUTTING ALL THAT IN. WHAT IT DID PUT IN HERE IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SPEND THEIR BID ON SPIN ALL IT, THEY WON'T FIX ALL THIS JUST SOON. THE FIBER PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE TAKE TO THE FLAT WITH THE ENGINEERS REPORT ON PHASE ONE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO DO THE FINAL DRESS UP ON PAGE ONE FOR THE ROADS AND SO FORTH. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROCEED BECAUSE AT AND T IS PUTTING IN FIBER OPTIC SYSTEM AND THEY'RE CREATING DITCHES ALONG ALL ROADS AND THEY ARE HAVING TO SPLICE ALL THE FIBER OPTIC WIRE. WE CAN'T GO IN AND COMPLETE THE ROAD CLEANUP UNTIL THEY'RE DONE. AND THEY ARE WITHIN, WE HOPE A WEEK OR 10 DAYS OF HAVING IT COMPLETED. THEY WERE SOLD UP BY THE RAIN. SO WE PROVIDED THE COMMISSION MACHINE WITH THE BID TO JUST SHOW HIM HOW MUCH OF THE BID IS TO HAVE THAT WORK DONE AND WE'RE PREPARED TO PAY IT. AND WE HAVE THE, THE CONTRACTOR ALREADY LINED UP TO DO IT WHEN AT T IS COMPLETED. OKAY. SO IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS THAT WE CAN, UH, RELEASE THE, THE, UH, UH, PERFORMANCE BOND AND GET A MAINTENANCE BOND FOR THE ROADS OF PHASE ONE AND PUT COME OUT OF THAT BOND. CHRIS? UH, GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN. TODD, WE BASE THAT ON A PERCENTAGE OF THE ACTUAL COST OF THE PERFORMANCE FUND. CORRECT. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT PERCENTAGE? 20% TOO? I'M SORRY. I THINK 40, 40%. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS GONNA JUST THINK IT'S 40 INTERJECT. IT'S BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE BOND AMOUNT, WHICH THE ROADS ARE CONSTRUCTED. BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS JUST A BAR DITCH ISSUE BASICALLY WITH THE AT T PEOPLE. AND THEN THE PERFORMANCE BOND IS IN PLACE, UH, BASED ON A 40% COST OF THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE BOND. AND THAT'S A TWO YEAR BOND FOR MAINTENANCE IF THAT BOND NEEDS TO BE CALLED. SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THE PERFORMANCE BOND BE RELEASED IN THE MAINTENANCE BOND IN ITS PLACE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON FOR THE ROADS. YEAH. THAT BOND NEEDS TO BE, UH, PROJECTED IN A DOLLAR AMOUNT. WELL, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS 40% OF QUESTION THAT MAINTENANCE BOND BACK IN DECEMBER. JUST YEAH. KENNETH, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. I KNOW IT'S PRESENTED THE COMMISSIONER. WELL, WAS IT TO VICKY, IS THERE ANY URGENCY TO GIVE PERFORMANCE BOND RELEASED CERTAIN TIME FRAME OR THE REASON I'M ASKING, THE ENGINEER WAS TELLING US THAT, THEY SAID THAT THEY RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO RELEASING THE BOND. IF IT'S GONNA JUST TAKE A FEW WEEKS, WHY WOULD YOU NOT JUST FINISH UP ALL THE PROJECTS THEN RELEASE IT AND THEN IT'S LIKE, EVERYBODY BE HAPPY THAT WAY? YEAH. ENGINEERS, YEAH, WE, WE UNDERSTAND. I JUST THINK THAT WE WERE TO A POINT WHERE THERE WAS SOME FRUSTRATION BECAUSE OF A UTILITY COMPANY THAT WE REALLY HAD NO CONTROL OVER. YOU LET THE UTILITY COMPANY FINISH AND BRING THEM, BRING THE BOND BACK WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED. AND IS THIS THE AMOUNT, THIS IS THE, UH, BID FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE WORK THAT'S ACTUALLY IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS ALREADY COMPLETED. THAT'S JUST TO GO BACK IN. THAT'S, THAT'S ALLY FOR PBS AND JT, CORRECT? YEAH. YEAH. CORRECT. AND WHO'S, WHO'S DOING THAT? UTILITIES OUT? WELL, AT TT THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. UH, THEY'RE BRINGING IN FIBER OPTIC STATE-OF-THE-ART TECHNOLOGY AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING SOME PURS OUT THERE GETTING ALL THOSE LINES SPLICED WITH SPECIAL MACHINERY. AND Y'ALL MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT LETTER REPORT FROM PBS? I HAVE. I, UH, I I HATE TO GO AGAINST PBS RECOMMENDATION. IT IS, IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THESE ITEMS SHOULD BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO RELIEVING THE, RELEASING THE PERFORMANCE LINE. [01:20:01] BUT SCOTT WAS, THEY HAD THE CONTRACT. HE SAID HE, IF I I BRING THE CONTRACT TO COMMISSIONER SUPPORT, IT WOULD BE ALRIGHT TO RELEASE THE, UH, PERFORMANCE BOND ON THE FIRST ISSUE. SO HE'S HAPPY WITH THAT. SURE. DIDN'T INDICATE THAT WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HE DID CALL, WE DID TALK ABOUT IT. HE SAID, UH, HE WAS HAPPY WITH IT AND WITH IT TO DO THIS. BUT HE WAS, WHEN HE FOUND OUT, HE SAID THAT THEY HAD NOT FALLEN CHARTER ON ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE FOR US SO FAR OUT THERE. SURE. YEAH. AND SCOUT WAS, THAT MAY NOT BE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. 'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE UNDER A MAINTENANCE BOND FOR TWO MORE YEARS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE NOT EVERYONE EXCEPT THOSE ROADS UNTIL ALL THAT STUFF'S DONE ANYWAY. I KNOW WHAT CHUCK SAY. I MEAN WHAT, UH, YEAH, SCOTT SAID WOULDN'T DO THAT. SCOTT SAY IT. YEAH. AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IT'S PROBABLY NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, BUT WE DO NEED, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A, THAT MAINTENANCE BOND HAS TO BE WRITTEN IN AMOUNT, A DOLLAR AMOUNT. ALRIGHT. SO THAT, SO WE DO NEED A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT. AND I THINK THE AMOUNT IS 40%, 40% OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND AMOUNT, PERFORMANCE BOND, BIG 5,000,004 AND SOME CHANGE ROUGHLY CLOSE TO 1.5. OH, OKAY. SO THE MAINTENANCE BOND IS APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THAT. RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. SO I THINK WE CAN DO THAT TODAY. THAT PART OF TODAY. YEAH. THERE'S ASSURANCE THERE THAT FOR ANY REASON DELAY AN ADDITIONAL DELAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH THE UTILITY THAT WE, IT WOULD BE ASSURANCE OF COUNTY WAS THAT PERFORMANCE BOND OF MAY AND FIVE, THE PERFORMANCE BOND. YES, SIR. SO IF WE CAN JUST SAY THE MAINTENANCE BOND NEEDS TO BE FOR 600,000. THAT'S RIGHT. ROUGHLY IT SAYS BY YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE SUFFER. YOU KNOW, SCOTT FELT GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE WAS. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE SITUATION WITH HIM. SO, SO YOU'VE TALKED TO HIM SINCE HE WROTE THAT, RIGHT? OH YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE FOR Y'ALL TO, I MEAN, I DON'T IF YOU GOT ADVANTAGE NOT, BUT WHY, WHY WOULD YOU JUST NOT DO THE WORK AND THEN RELEASE YOUR BOND? OR IS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT YOU NEED TO BE RELEASED FROM YOUR BOND OR WHAT, WHAT'S THE WELL, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME FACTORS THERE. UH, PERFORMANCE BOND VERSUS MAINTENANCE BOND ISSUES. UM, PERFORMANCE BONDS ARE GOOD FOR SO LONG. UH, THIS PERFORMANCE BOND, WE SITUATIONS WHERE THINGS COULD BE EXTENDED. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT WE FEEL THAT BECAUSE WE COMPLETED AND WE HAVE PERFORMED AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S GONE OUT AND CHECKED THE KEN SHANE CHECKED. WE'VE GOT, BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS A, IS A BAR DITCH ISSUE WITH SOME TOP SOIL WHERE IT'S BEEN DISTURBED. WHEN YOU GET IT DRESSED UP, WE VEGETATED. THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT. AND IT'S DUE A UTILITY COMPANY, UH, NOT, NOT US. UM, WE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED THOSE ROADS AND THEY'VE BEEN SITTING OUT THERE FOR OVER SIX MONTHS CONSTRUCTED, UH, UTILITIES IN, EXCEPT FOR THIS FINAL DRESS UP WITH THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY. SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, THE PERFORMANCE BOND COULD BE RELEASED. THE MAINTENANCE BOND IS THE ASSURANCE FOR, FOR ANY REASONS SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN IN PHASE ONE THAT'S STILL LEFT. THERE IS ASSURANCE THERE. UH, WE, WE HAVE ANOTHER PERFORMANCE BOND FOR PHASE TWO THAT WE'RE, UH, UH, PREPARED TO SUBMIT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TODAY. UH, THE BOND AGENT WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME RELEASE AND REISSUANCE OF NEW BONDS, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY EXCEPTIONS. BASICALLY WE'RE JUST ON THE GROUND OUT THERE ASSESSING IT AND COMING TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, UH, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT ARE LEFT. UH, BUT THERE IS A MAINTENANCE BOND, UH, FOR ASSURANCE FOR THAT. WE, WE, WE DO VISITS IN SOME COUNTIES WHERE OUR MAINTENANCE BONDS AREN'T REQUIRED. CAL HAS A PRETTY STOUT POLICY ON THAT TWO, FOUR YEARS. I THINK. UH, COMMISSIONER, YOU, YOU WERE CORRECT THAT THAT LETTER THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO WRITTEN BY BERNIE WAS WRITTEN AT A TIME. AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WE TALKED WITH KENNETH, UH, AND WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE PROPOSAL, UH, THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD MADE THAT THAT WOULD BE DONE AND THIS IS HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST. SO AFTER BERNIE SAW THAT, HE WAS SAYING, OKAY, WELL UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. SO I SHOULD HAVE TELL BERNIE TO WRITE A LETTER TO US THAT THAT WAS ALL TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS. I JUST TALKED TO VERBALLY OVER SCOTT. YES, SCOTT. IT'S OKAY WITH ME. ALRIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO, UH, RELEASE THE PERFORMANCE BOND AND ENTER INTO A TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND FOR SHADOWS. SHADOW LAKE SUBDIVISION PHASE ONE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER . ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN COURTESY. AYE. A ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. JUDGE CAN MM-HMM . YEAH, IT'S GOOD. YOU READY? YES. ALRIGHT. [01:25:01] NEXT ONE IS DISCUSSING. OH, JERRY, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE? NO, I WAS GONNA, I, I THOUGHT SHE WAS READY DISCUSSING, CONSIDER ACCEPTING PERFORMANCE BONDS FOR SHADOW LAKES PHASE TWO IN CALTON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. OKAY. WE'RE JUST STARTING THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR THE ACT MOTION. I NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY BRING THE BONDS AROUND ME TO SIGNED THE AMOUNT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, ON THE MAINTENANCE BOND. YOU SAID THAT'S 600,000 UHHUH. I DUNNO WHAT THE BE ON THAT PERFORMANCE BOND. I HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND HERE FOR PHASE TWO JOHN $559,543 CENTS. COULDN'T ROUND IT OFF. GO AHEAD. ROUND IT OFF. PRETTY. THOSE ROAD COST ESTIMATES ARE BASED ON THIS ENGINEER'S REPORT SUBMITTING TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER FOR HIS APPROVAL TO SAY THAT'S THE ADEQUATE AMOUNT FOR THE ING DRAINAGE FOR PHASE TWO. 559. 5 43. FIVE NINE. 5 4 3 AND 16 CENTS. WHAT YOU GO OVER . AND THE REASON THIS ONE IS SO MUCH LESS IS BECAUSE THIS PHASE IS A LOT SMALLER. YEAH. THIS, THIS PHASE HAS 50 LOTS IN THE FIRST PHASE AT 143. ALL IN FAVOR, RIGHT? MOTION CARRIES. SECOND, UH, JURY SECOND. YOU SEGMENTED DIDN'T? YES. OKAY. TOOK CARE OF THOSE GUYS. NOW, THIS DISCUSSION CENTER, THE FINAL FLASH IN ENGINEERING PLANS FOR SHADOW LAKE PHASE TWO IN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. HAVE YOU, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER EVERYTHING I THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS TO ME? YES SIR. I HAVE SUBMITTED IT TO THE COUNTY SURVEYOR. I HAVE HIS APPROVAL AS WELL. Y'ALL HAD AN I HERE TODAY. YOUR SIGNATURE. YOU HAVE ONE ON THE BOARD. IF, IF YOU SEE WEEDS GROWING UP AROUND THE HOUSE, , IS THERE A WAIVER ON THIS, ON THIS LENGTH OF THIS ROAD WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC? IS THIS, IS THIS THE, THIS THE ONE WE GAVE A WAIVER? YES SIR. IT SURE IS. THAT'S THE ONE. THE FIRE MARSHAL? YEAH. OKAY. WE HERE WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAQUE THAT TIME, DID THE FIRE MARSHAL WRITE A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT OR DID HE JUST SAY BILL? HE WAS HERE AT THAT MEETING WHEN WE HAD, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER GETTING A LETTER FROM. OKAY, WE BROUGHT IN THE PRELIMINARY. I KNOW WE DID THE PRELIMINARY. JUST THAT BELL. DO YOU WANT JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW? WE BASICALLY HAVE 50 LOTS, ONE AMENITY CENTER AND ONE COMMON AREA OF 80 SOMETHING ACRES THERE. SO WE HAVE 50 LOTS ON TWO 18 ACRES IN THIS SPACE. AND THIS IS WHERE Y'ALL PUT THE BE CENTER ON THIS, SIR. ON THIS SPACE TOO? YES SIR. THIS WOULD BE SHOWN RIGHT THERE ON THE SEE THE RIGHT OFF OF CANYON LAKE. JUST FOR MY INFORMATION UP HERE. WHEAT AREN'T ALL THESE SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNED WHEN WE TURN THEM WHEN IT'S TURNED IN HERE? I HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE. AND THEY YOU GOT THE ONES, LEMME SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE. I WAS TOLD IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNED. I SAID THESE ARE, I DON'T SIGN. THIS IS JUST INFORMATION. WHAT I'VE GOT ELECTRIC, THE SURVEYOR AND CERTIFICATION. THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE PARKER. SHE WOULDN'T, [01:30:04] THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE DON'T HAVE. YOU GOT SHE SHE'S JUST, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM AND WE OF COURSE FAILED OUR OBLIGATIONS. WHAT WAS THAT VARIANCE FOR? FOR THE TIME MARSHAL? IT HAD TO DO BECAUSE OF CUL-DE-SAC. OH, THE LENGTH MOUNTAIN AGREED TO SUPPLY 688 BLOCKS. INCIDENTALLY, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE OF YOU MIGHT WONDER WHERE WE ARE WITH THE WATER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A VERY DIFFICULT AND EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME GETTING THE WATER SYSTEM SET UP. BUT FORTUNATELY THE, UH, ONSITE DISTRIBUTION LINES ARE ALREADY IN AND, UH, THE TRANSMISSION 12 INCH TRANSMISSION LINE FROM THE WATER PUMP, UH, TO SHADOW LAKES, WHICH UH, RUNS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MILES UNDERNEATH, GOES UNDERNEATH I 20 COMES DOWN. THAT IS IN, AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HOOKING IT UP TO THE PUMP STATION, THEIR EXISTING PUMP STATION NOW. AND IT WILL LATER BE THEN JUST MOVED TO A NEW WATER TOWER. THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING BUT THEY ANTICIPATE, UM, DOING THE PRESSURE STUDIES ON THE WATER FLOW NEXT WEEK PROBABLY. AND THEN, SO WE SHOULD HAVE CENTRAL WATER WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL. TYLER TOLD ME Y'ALL DOING A GOOD JOB OUT THERE, TYLER. HE OH YES. UH, TYLER. YEAH, WE WORK WITH HIM. YOUR AT T CONTACT, WHO THAT, UH OH. IS JTO WOULD THAT BE AT T FOR CONTACT PERSON THAT YOU HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH? THERE'S ABOUT SIX OF THEM. DOES ONE OF'EM, DWAYNE HILL? UH, IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR. IT DOES. I'M HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT IS I'M HAVING SOME PROBLEMS. ONE OF OUR ROAD DITCHES WITH ATT THEY HAVE CABLES THERE. OPEN DITCH IS NOT OPEN. DITCH TRIED. IT'S KIND OF LIKE DEALING WITH TECH STOCK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN AT&T AND YOU JUST CAN'T, CAN'T PIN IT DOWN. BUT THEY, THEY, THEY HAD TOLD US IT WILL BE, THEY HAVEN'T GOT THAT MUCH MORE TO GO ON FIBER OPTIC. ARE YOU DOING FIBER OPTIC FOR? OKAY. I WAS A PRETTY BIG UNDERSTANDING BY AT TI COULD GIVE THEM THAT THEY'VE EXTENDED SOME REALLY HIGH TECH TECHNOLOGY ALL THE WAY OUT INTO THIS REGION, APPROXIMATELY 17 MILES. SO IT WASN'T A SMALL UNDERTAKING. SO, UH, AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL GET, WE'RE JUST STAYING ON TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BUTTON UP AND GET IT TURNED ON. THEY'RE REAL CLOSE. WASN'T RELATED. BEEN RAINING FOR A LITTLE BIT. UTILITY, UTILITY CONTRACT. COME OUT AND INSPECT MINE FOR A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL. NO, NOT ANYWHERE. SHAPE FORM CAPACITY DONE UP TO STANDARDS. I'M SORRY. THE WORK WAS NOT DONE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT UP. INDUSTRY STANDARDS REALLY? I FILLED IN. SO JUST WENT THROUGH THE I WAS TO SHOW YOU WERE TALKING TO, BECAUSE I'M NOT AS OF YET, I'M NOT HAVING A LOT OF LUCK, BUT I, I'LL HAVE SOME PROBABLY BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE WITH NAMES. I HAVE. YOU DO I NEED SOME WORK? WE, YOU KNOW WHERE THE ORIGINAL LETTERS I'VE GOT ALL, I HAVE COPIES LIKE FROM THE COMPANY, THE ORIGINAL LETTERS FROM THE UTILITY COMPANY, THE WATER COMPANY, UH, HISTORICAL COMMISSION. THEY HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. YEAH. OKAY. THEY NEED TO GO WITH THE, ALRIGHT, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU, WHEN THESE WHEN TAKE THEM TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. THOSE, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS OR QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE FINAL FLAT. I GOT A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A A MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH GUYS. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TO COME BACK. RIGHT. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. IF YOU HAVE A WAY TO GET DOWN TO AT&T, DECISIONMAKER, I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL. MAYBE WE CAN, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK AND FINISH UP. [01:35:02] I MAKE A MOTION. WE ACCEPT OR ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE TO ACCEPT OR ACKNOWLEDGE THE BOND FOR VANESSA CLIMO. IT WAS MADE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER DELLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER UH, SHANE ON 39. MOTION CARRIES. DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEMS THIS WEEK? YES SIR, WE DO. WOW. JACK, THESE COPIES OF THE, UH, BIDS ARE THEY COPIES FOR ME TO KEEP? THEY'RE YOURS, SIR. THANK YOU SIR. IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AREA, WE HAVE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE LINE ITEMS. OFFICE FURNACE EQUIPMENT, 15,000 AND A REBATE FOR THE 8,000 9 58 REDUCTION OF CAPITAL COSTS JURY FUND, INCREASED JURY CARDS, A THOUSAND WITH DUCTION OF YOUR MILL AND TAX EXCESSIVE COLLECTOR. INCREASED CONTRACT LABOR 2000 WITH REDUCTION IN GENERAL OPERATING FIRE MARSHAL, INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS. 2,650, WHICH REDUCTION IN FILM SUPPLIES. 150. UH, MILEAGE AND LODGING 500. TRAINING COMP IS 500 AND NEW EQUIPMENT OF 1500 IN THE END OF UH, FENCE AREA. WE JUST HAVE SOME SWITCHES BETWEEN LINE ITEMS. UH, INCREASE 86 4 20 5,000 CPS, 5,000 REDUCTION COUNTY COURT COSTS, UH, IN ADULT PROBATION AREAS. UH, GOT AN INCREASE IN, UH, UH, ONE SALARY LINE OUT OF THE 1379 WITH REDUCTION IN SUPPLIES AND OPERATING EXPENSES. AND THEN RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND INCREASED IMAGING TO 30,000 INPUT PRESERVATION. ADDITIONALLY, A FEW WEEKS AGO WE HAD A, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS AREA, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN LINE AS TRANSFER. UM, LIKE WE WERE TALKING THIS MORNING, WE SUB LIKE 500,000 IN THE BUDGET TO BE ALLOCATED LATER. A FEW WEEKS AGO WE ALLOCATED THE INITIAL BUDGET AND UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE CLERICAL ERROR THAT WAS KIND OF HANDLED AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT RATHER THAN LINE ON TRANSFER TO MOVE THE 500,000 IN CATEGORIES. WE GOT AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT. OKAY, Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE TRANSFER REQUEST. WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER KELLER SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROUTING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY BILLS? YES SIR. YOU WANT I LIKE THAT. FIRST YOU HAD TO PAY A 62 PORTA POT MILK. THAT'S ALL I HAD. LENGTH HAVE CHANGED. WANT YOU TO LOOK AT MY, COULD GET THE BY AND BEDROCK TO GIVE US ONE STATE INVOICE MONEY PUT INTO OUR ACCOUNT TWO MONTHS, MAYBE THREE MONTHS. , YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT ONE LIKE ENOUGH TO, WELL, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS THE LAST MONTH OF, UH, PREVIOUS, LAST FREE RIDE. THIS IS AFTER 31. YOU SO, SO BETWEEN NOW AND 31ST, YOU CAN EXPECT A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE. YOU CHECK UP THERE AND LOOK TO SEE HOW MANY LINES A DAY. THERE'S GONNA BE LINES MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY. THERE'LL BE EVEN MORE THAN THAT. ARE THESE IN PARTICULAR ORDER KEYS? THEY'RE IN, UH, VENDOR ORDER. OKAY, SO I CAN CLOSE THAT AND LOOK BACK INS FINE. IT'S BY THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE. NO, WE WE FIX THAT LATER. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WON'T GET PAID TO GET ELECTRICITY. [01:40:01] YOU DON'T WANT THAT QUESTION. GOOD. YEAH, ME TOO. I PLAY THE HOW IS THIS? DID WE DO THIS? I I, THIS DOESN'T TELL ME HOW MUCH I STEP I WANTED OR ANYTHING THAT OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S THING. CHAIR. NO, GRANDSON. I'M SORRY YOU DIDN'T SIT EVERYBODY IN COUNTY. JUDGE. HE SHOULD HIM A HAIRCUT. I MISSED YOU GUYS LAST MONDAY, BUT THIS WAS QUESTION GUYS ABOUT WHAT THIS WAS PAYING. WE DON'T DO THIS ANYMORE. QUESTION HERE. DIFFERENT PRIOR SHOULD NOT BE TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES. THEY ONE DOWNTOWN AND ONE. NO. NO. OH, OKAY. I GO SHE HAD ALL THAT DOWN. SHE KNOW IF THAT'S BARN OR COURTHOUSE GOT A NUMBER. YEAH. IF, IF FOR SOME REASON THAT WAS JAIL, THE JAIL FELL THROUGH CRACK AND ONE TIME THE JAIL WAS ON A DIFFERENT, UH, ELECTRICAL SUPPLIER THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTY AND WE TURNED IT IN OUR ELECTRICITY FROM THE SAME COMPANY BECAUSE POWER POOL AND, AND ALL THE COUNTIES TOGETHER GO IN AND, AND ONE, ONE POOL FOR ELECTRICITY. [01:45:03] BY THE WAY, I JUST DIDN'T INSTALL AS THE . OH REALLY? WE ALRIGHT. AT AT TI GUESS THAT'D BE JUST THE PHONES SIDES THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM A HORSE PLANT. THEY, NO. OKAY. THAT'S, I WONDER IF THERE'S, THEY HAVEN'T SHUT OUT YET. PROBABLY WILL BE SOON. ARE YOU GONNA BE THERE WHEN THEY, BECAUSE IT'LL BE SUCH AN EVENT. OUGHT TO GO LOOK AT THAT. SHOULDN'T I? HISTORIC INSIDE THERE ALL DID I SEE WHERE THE JACKSON TITLE CLAIM WENT THROUGH THERE? DID THEY CALL ASPECT TITLE, POLICY CHECK, CHECK OVER THE, ON THE, I'M SURE THE WAS SUPPOSED PAID BY. I'M SURE THAT WAS IN TOTAL POLICY NUMBER. AGREED TO GOT A AND WALTER THOSE GIRLS NEXT WEEK FIRST. I FIND OUT THAT'LL BE WELL THAT'LL BE THE FIRST. SHE WON'T ALL OF 2006. THE DA THOUGH. OKAY. YOU'LL COME AFTER. [01:50:03] WELL BUT SEE THE 84 IS NOT TOTAL BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO TOMORROW. YOU GOT, YOU GOT VOTER DOWN HERE, UH, OFF OF HER. SHE GREW NEW JERSEY SOMETHING FIRES IN SOMETHING. FIRE HER THIS ESTATE TO GUY. THIS GUY BOUGHT, HE SOLD IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THE STATE NEW JERSEY REAL GOOD. REAL ESTATE. PROBABLY PRETTY EXPENSIVE. PRETTY INGENIOUS GUY. A LOT PEOPLE HAVE YACHTS. SO HE BOUGHT ONE OF THESE GREAT BIG HUGE GOVERNMENT AIRPLANES THAT THEY GOT. OH YEAH. REMODEL IT, FLOATING OUT, YOU KNOW. AND SO SHE WORKS PLACE TO PLACE BECAUSE THAT WAY DIDN'T SPEND TWO WEEKS GOING SOUTH AMERICA TO AFRICA, WHATEVER. GET THE FLOWERS THERE AND PARK IT. AND THEN IT WAS HIS YACHT WHILE HE WAS THERE. GOT DECEMBER. DECEMBER THE 15TH GOES UP. YET WE, I KNOW WE HAVE TWO BIG, THEY'RE NOT SPIRALS. WHAT ARE THEY? THE BINDERS? YEAH, IT'S LIKE A, A CLIPBOARD. YEAH, CLIPBOARD. A BIG CLIPBOARD. AND THEY'RE, BOTH OF THEM ARE USUALLY, WELL THAT'S NOT WHEN THE INVOICE, IS IT THE DATE? IT MAY HAVE STARTED IN JUST BORROW GONNA BE VERY INTERESTING. IT RAY NOT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I CAN HOW THAT WE DIDN'T LAST YEAR? NO, THIS YEAR. OH, LAST YEAR. IT IS LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR. IT'S NOW. YEAH. YOU GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE. WE NEED TO GO TWICE. THREE. WE GO WITH TOMMY'S FOUR. WE NEED TO GO TOMMY'S FIRST. YEAH, WE, HE, I COULD GET THAT PLACE ONE DAY HAS HAVE AN A DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, GRANDMOTHER, COMMISSIONER. NO WONDER IF WE INVITED, UH, TO GO THIS PLACE. I HAD, HAVE YOU BEEN TO HAVE TOMMY? HE SAID IT WAS PRETTY NICE. WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? I DID NEVER BE LISTENING TO MY FATHER. I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FIND IT. I HIT IT. I LOOKED ALL OVER FOR YEAH, RIGHT. YOU TOOK IT HOME WITH YOU, DIDN'T YOU USED IT? YEAH. LONG DISTANCE. [01:55:02] WHERE IS THIS? DEL? IS DEL SAN ANTONIO ISN'T IT? DEL IS A CONROE. OH, MONTGOMERY ACTUALLY IS WHAT? MONTGOMERY. OH, OH IS IT PORT HOUSTON? YES. YEAH, RIGHT NOW. 45. YOU GET TO, OH, THERE'S SOME KIND OF SUPPOSED TO GO TO LIKE JUNE OR SOMETHING. LOOKING AT I SAID YEAH, THERE IS CALLED. OH YEAH. THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S COMMISSIONER'S CONFERENCE GOING. GO SPOKE. GO TO THAT ONE. YOU CAN GO TO ANY ONE OF THE THREE OF THEM, BUT I'M JUST GONNA GO THERE BECAUSE I AIN'T GOING TO AUSTIN ANYMORE IN HANDCUFFS. GOOD FISHING. GOOD. WACO. WACO DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH BUBBLE HERE IN WACO. COUNTY OFFICERS FALL, WACO. SEE IT'S FASTER THAN EL PASO. 50. IS THAT, IS THAT THAT BEGINNER SCHOOL? MAYBE COMMISSIONER SCHOOL THAT WE CALL IT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT. JUDGE. IS THERE GOLF COURSES AT DEL LAGON? UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEL LAGO. OH, WE'RE NOT. THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY IMPROVEMENTS. THEY PROMISED US TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE CHOSE THEM OH. THAT THEY WERE GONNA REMODEL AND BE OPEN NEW, NEW PLACE. UH, ONE, ONE OF THE OFFICERS WENT DOWN A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THEY'VE DONE NOTHING. HOT WATER. I GET INVITED TO SO THEY BETTER SETTLE THE CONTRACT. WELL I WAS PLANNING ON GOING. I WAS TOO. WELL NOW YOU CAN GO TO EITHER THE WOODLANDS OR COLLEGE STATION. WHOA. I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE WOODLANDS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING. BUT, UH, THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH THE WOODLANDS NOW. THEY'RE HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW. I HAVE MY VA CHECK UP AT THE HOSPITAL TOMORROW, SO I COULDN'T GO. BUT I'M SENDING ANGIE AND CASSIE SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES AT WORK AT WORK AT, ANYWAY, THAT'S A COUPLE OF BEST GOLF COURSES IN THE STATE. YEAH. SO I TOLD 'EM THAT. I SAID I'LL BE AVAILABLE WITH MY CELL PHONE IF Y'ALL NEED MY OPINION. BUT I SAID MY FIRST VOTE IS THE WOODLANDS IF IT'S NOT TOO EXPENSIVE. AND THE SECOND ONE OF COURSE IS IS COLLEGE STATION. YEAH. AND COLLEGE STATION PUT A BID IN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN DEL LAGO DID. AND SO WE KNEW EVENTUALLY WE WOULD END UP IN COLLEGE STATION, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT IT BE THIS TIME. WE GONNA DO THAT NEXT TIME WE WENT TO COLLEGE STATION FOR OUR LAST, FOR OUR GRADUATION. YEAH. WE GRADUATED FROM A M GOT COURSE COLLEGE STATION. DID YOU GO TO WE GRADUATED FROM A&M. KEN AND I WENT THERE. DID YOU GO TO THE PRESIDENTIAL BUSH LIBRARY? BUSH ONE. DID YOU GO TO THE LIBRARY? COLLEGE STATION. COLLEGE STATION. I DON'T THINK WE DID. SO ANYWAY, THEY'RE MEETING TOMORROW TO MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION SO THAT DEL LARGO'S OFF THE TABLE, DEL LARGO'S OFF THAT AND THE GOLF COURSE, RAY MEADOW WENT DOWN TO PLAY THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE CHARLIE SIMMONS PUT RAY IN CHARGE OF THE GOLF TURN. YEAH. AND RAY WENT DOWN AND PLAYED IT AND HE SAID IT WAS TERRIBLE. REALLY? HE SAID IT WAS JUST REALLY TERRIBLE. SO I FIGURED RAY WAS GONNA NEGOTIATE WITH THE WOODLANDS. YEAH. AND WE GO DOWN TO THE WOODLANDS PLAY. HE'S A REAL GOOD JOB. BUT, UH, UH, IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN. SO WE SHOULD KNOW AFTER TOMORROW THOUGH, BECAUSE I HAD SCRATCHED WELL I THINK I HAD THAT DOWN. WELL IT'D BE A GOOD, GOOD CONFERENCE ANYWAY. OH, GEORGE, DO YOU WEAR YOUR RUBBER BOOTS TODAY, GEORGE? I DID. SO IS THERE A WATER OVER THERE IN THE, WE HAD A, UH, WATER ALARM. YOU KNOW THESE LITTLE RADIATORS YOU SEE EVERYWHERE? YEAH. THEY PROBABLY USED THE SERVER WHOLE, ALL THE HALLWAY. DID IT MESS UP ANY, UH, RECORDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? DID IT GET UP? I KEEP ALL EVERYTHING UP HIGH RECOGNIZED. SO WE'RE GONNA SHAPE WE'RE THIS, I'M OVER HERE ABOUT WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO ON THE CARPET? WE'RE GONNA HAVE AICO TWO GIVE AN WOULD COST, WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE THIS. THE THING IS THERE'S SO MUCH HUMIDITY IN THAT ROOM, IN [02:00:01] THAT AREA. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO KEEP THE ROOM COOL. BECAUSE THE, YOU ANYBODY IN HERE? I I MAKE THE MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER TO PAY THE BILLS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR? THE AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING GOING ON THIS WEEK. JUST LEAK OVER TO THE COURTHOUSE. SECURITY. WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT A MESS. DO THAT. WE'RE ACTUALLY PULLING. I TOLD, I WENT AHEAD AND GAVE, WHEN THEY CAN'T GET THE CARPET DRY AND WE'RE NOT GONNA SMELL MILDEW AND EVERYTHING, WE'LL REPLACE THAT. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN. 24 HOURS. RON CAR FOR THOSE PEOPLE UP THE WATER. THE GUY, MR. PORT. THERE'S A, SOMEBODY CAN, HE PROBABLY KNOWS SOMEBODY. MR. PORT WAS GONNA GET A QUOTE FROM OUR GUY JUST TO SUCK THE WATER. SHOULD IT REPLACE IT? TO REPLACE IT? IF YOU CAN'T, UH, HOW OLD IS IT? DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE? DOES IT HAVE A PAD UNDER IT TOO? NO, IT'S GLUED DOWN. IT'S GLUED DOWN A CARPET. IT HAD PAD UNDER, IT'D BE REAL WET DOWN. I HAD SOMEBODY TRY TO DRIVE IN SOME COURTHOUSE SOMEWHERE. PUT, GOT ANOTHER SPOT. OH NO. YEAH. DOWN BY THE JPS OFFICE, SO. OH REALLY? WERE THEY MAD? NO, SHE JUST SAID SHE HIT THE GAS AND CAME UP OVER THAT CURB. IT WAS A WOMAN THOUGH, HUH? YEAH. NATURAL. LISTEN, BIG ENOUGH. ARE WE GETTING TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND TRY TO SUCK THE WATER UP OUTTA IT? WE'RE DOING THAT NOW. YOU'RE JUST DOING THAT YOURSELF? WE WE HAVE A GUY. A PERSON. OKAY. AND WE GOT BLOWERS AND, OKAY. WE ENTERTAIN THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN MOTION CARRIES FOR CITY ON. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.