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OKAY, WE'LL COME DOOR NOW, PLEASE.UH, JERRY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO OPEN, UH, REMEMBER THE FAMILY OF SAM SEAL? SAM OH YEAH.
OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, WHO WAS VARIOUS VARIETY.
AND, UH, WE HAD COUNTY OFFICIALS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AT THE FUNERAL, AND IT WAS, UH, UH, MOVING.
UH, SAM'S BEEN THE EX EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TEXAS ASSOCIATION COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS.
AND KEN AND I WERE FIRST DOWN THERE GOING TO OUR SCHOOLS.
HE BROUGHT US UP TO HIS OFFICE AND TALKED TO US ALONG.
MS. GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK THEY FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS AND DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
UH, PLEASE LOOK DOWN AND GIVE US THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE CORRECT DECISIONS.
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO LIFT UP OUR FRIEND SAM SEALE, A LONG TIME MEMBER OF TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES WHO PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR.
MR. SEALE HAD DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR HELP COUNTIES AND CITIZENS LIKE THAT.
SO WE, WE APPRECIATE HIS WORK.
UH, AS ALWAYS, WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE GIVING RAIN.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SUNSHINE.
UH, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO, FOR YOU TO LOOK DOWN ON THE TRUTH AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY AND BRING THEM HOME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE BLACK OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY OF HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE TO THE TEXAS ONE INDIVIDUAL.
YOU PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ALL IN YE A MOTION CARRIES FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
MR. JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, OUR COUNTY TREASURER IS GONNA DISCUSS APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FLEXIBLE REQUIRE AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
FIRST, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER A YEAR OR SO AGO WHEN WE EVEN WERE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER COUNTY COURT LAW AND WE DISCUSSED HAVING TWO MORE ASSISTANT DAS TO COVER ALL THE COURTS.
AND SINCE AFTER ELECTION LAST MARCH, WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND THE U DAS ALREADY HAD TO TALK WITH THE JPS AND JUDGES ABOUT TRYING TO SCATTER OUT THEIR, THEIR COURT DATES, COURT TIMES GET UP PERSONNEL.
IF THIS IS TO THAT, JUST DO WHAT WE DISCUSSED OVER THE YEARS SO AGO.
AND THE BUDGET SESSION IS MAKE A ROOM FOR TWO MORE ASSISTANT DAS.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
VICTOR WANTS TO WAIT A FILE AND MAKE SURE HE GOT EVERYTHING IN CONTROL.
BUT, UH, WE HERE I'D TO ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
A MOTION CARRIES THE NEXT ONE.
WHEN WE DID THE COLLECTION DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE GETTING INTO, OR I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GETTING INTO FOR SURE.
AND WE JUST ALLOCATED THE TWO PEOPLE AND, UH, DIDN'T SINCE, SINCE THEN, I'VE TALKED AROUND THE STATE AND I MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE COURT ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE AND WE'VE UPGRADED THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE FULL-TIME COLLECTORS AND ONE, UH, C CLERK PERSON WHO'S ALSO, UH, BILINGUAL.
AND IT'S A PRETTY ASIDE BUDGET.
LIKE I TOLD ONE FROM TA PHONE THIS LAST WEEK.
UH, I BELIEVE THEIR DEPARTMENT, I, THIS DEPARTMENT WILL COVER ITSELF SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR.
RIGHT NOW I'M WORKING ON OLD CASES AND THE, UH, THE PLAINTIFF JIM SHOWED US, UH, MONTHS AGO REGARDING THOSE EARLIEST COURT.
AND WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOT OF THAT MONEY.
AND WE GOT ONE GIRL, UH, NOT 2 1 1 LADY DEPUTY LEVELS, WHO IS, UH, WORKING WITH ALL CASES AND SHE'S ALREADY ED.
A LOT OF THAT PEOPLE JUST NEED TO BE TALKED TO.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK FINE.
WE'LL ALSO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS, ALL
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THE QUESTIONS THAT THE STATE HAS OF US.I'VE GONE THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM AND WE'LL MATCH EVERYTHING.
I'LL HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTIONS FINALIZED, YET WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING DONE.
THE CASE WE ANY MONEY NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THIS EXACTLY, UH, TA CALLED ME LAST WEEK.
I THINK HE TALKED TO YOU FIRST.
I GUESS THEY WERE HAVING A HEARING ON THIS, THE SENATE BILL, UH, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, BUT TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.
BUT THE COST OF IT, I DUNNO, LAST FOR, BUT EVEN IF IT DOES, I THINK THIS GONNA BE LIKE, MAKES A LOT OF MONEY, WHETHER IT PART LAWSUIT OR NOT.
THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE YOU PLEASE, UH, APPROVE THAT AGAIN, ALSO.
WELL, THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT THEY CRAMMED DOWN OUR THROAT WHETHER WE WANTED IT OR NOT.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE FIGHTING TO GET WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR COLLECTION RATE, 23 5% AND WE LOVE THAT BABY, JUST BY JUST DOUBLE, THEY BITE THEMSELVES SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE JUDGE, JUDGE CASE VERY FAR TO IT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GELLER.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
NEXT WE HAVE IS, UH, CONSTABLE JOE DAWN LAW IS GONNA PRESENT TO US THE, UH, HIS, UH, RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.
CAN I ASK HIM? YES, YOU GO AHEAD AND ASK HIM.
WE JUST WANT TO KNOW ONE THING.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMPLAINTS? NONE WHATSOEVER.
WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT.
COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
CARRIE, WHOEVER PUT THIS ON THE LIST IN HERE.
TELL I MIGHT TRY TO GET SOMEBODY.
MY, MY DEAL WAS ALL OUTDATED, SO I ASKED HER TO FIX THIS.
THE ONLY SUGGESTION FOR THOSE OUTSIDE IS THAT WHEN YOU CALL IN, IT'S NOT ONE, TWO, THREE SOMETHING.
WE'LL SEND THOSE KIND OF WORDS ON TO CASSIE.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, CONSIDER SETTING A DATE FOR KAMAN COUNTY CLEANUP.
CONSIDER AWARDING BID 0 7 0 6 CONTRACT FOR WASTE CALLING.
AND KIM, CONVENIENCE STATION, PRECINCT NUMBER COURT.
UH, JUDGE, THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, BID TABULATE, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL UNKNOWNS.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUANTITY WOULD BE ON THIS CONTRACT FOR AS ASS.
UH, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT.
I TRIED TO TRACK WHAT IT DID FACTORED IN THE, UH, FUEL FEES FACTORED IN, UH, UH, RENTAL FEES BY ONE VENDOR.
UH, WE ASKED FOR, UH, QUOTES ON 30 AND 40 YARD CONTAINERS.
SOME VENDORS DID ABOVE, SOME VENDORS DID NOT.
AND WHAT I DID WAS I DETERMINED, UH, UH, WE'D HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UH, ON A 30 YARD, UH, CONTAINER, WE WOULD'VE, UH, LET'S SEE, 52 HAUL.
AND ON A, UH, 40 YARD IT'D BE 39.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I, I PICKED THE BEST PRICE THAT EACH VENDOR BID.
AND THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF INSERTED ON THE SECOND PAGE.
SO THE SECOND PAGE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THOSE.
AFTER I GIVE CASSIE A COMPLIMENT ON SENDING THOSE OUT, I'LL PUTTING THESE IN.
ONCE AGAIN, WHAT I DID WAS I INSERTED THE BEST PRICE, WHETHER IT BE A 30 YARD OR A 40
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YARD CONTAINER.AND ONCE AGAIN, TWO, I CONSIDERED, UH, IF YOU HAVE A 40 YARD, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SO MANY HAULS.
IF YOU HAVE A 30 YARD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, A, A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
BUT I BASICALLY GOT THE BEST PRICE THAT VENDOR WAS BIDDING.
UH, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION BASED ON THESE NUMBERS.
UH, THE DUNCAN DISPOSAL, UH, SUPPOSEDLY IS LOWER BY $342.
BUT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE $22 PER TON OVER SEVEN TONS, IF HALF THOSE LOADS ARE, UH, OVER FAR AS TONNAGE, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE LOW, BETTER.
UH, AND ALSO IF YOU REDUCE THE NUMBERS, UH, AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF HALLS AND WHAT I DID, I TOOK THE COUNTY CLEANUP AND I DOUBLED THAT IS IS WHAT I WENT WITH ON ON'S PRECINCT.
JUST A GUESS IS ALL, IT'S UH, LEMME JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT TO JACK.
I THINK JACK AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS IS I DON'T LIKE, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT OVER SEVEN TONS, THEY CHARGE YOU 22 TON.
HOW AM I GONNA VERIFY THAT? UH, I CAN'T VERIFY IT.
I DON'T, I'M NOT, IT MAY BE CHEAPER, BUT I WANT SOMETHING I CAN VERIFY.
IS HE GONNA SEND ME A WEIGHT STICK? WEIGHT SLIP OR, OR WHATEVER? SURE.
I BELIEVE THE FELLOWS HERE, JIM, FROM DUNCAN, MAYBE HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO US.
THAT WE CAN GO BY THE SCHEDULE.
YEAH, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THAT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, ANYTIME THAT WE CARRY A LOAD INTO THE LANDFILL, UH, LANDFILL IS, IS WEIGHED INDIVIDUALLY AND, AND THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL TICKET THAT CAN'T ACCOMPANY YOUR BILL.
SO IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, IF, IF I CAN, YES.
UH, 'CAUSE I IF YOU, IF YOU PUT MORE THAN EIGHT TON ON THERE, YOU'RE OVERLOOKING.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WOULD ACCEPT THAT, THAT BRINGING THE TICKET TO ME.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN OVERWEIGHT PERMIT FOR YOUR TANDEMS OR NOT.
UH, BUT IF YOU GOT EIGHT TONS ON THERE, YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE LIMIT.
WELL, WE REALLY COULDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT TYPE OF DEBRIS YOU WERE GOING TO BE GENERATING SO THAT THAT SEVEN TON LIMIT, UH, RESTRICTION WAS PUT IN, PUT IN THERE AS KIND OF PROTECTION FOR US.
ALSO UHHUH, BECAUSE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IF YOU OVER SEVEN TONS AND YOU OVERWEIGHT AND YOU'RE ILLEGAL AND YOU CAN'T REALLY RUN HIM DOWN THE HIGHWAY, HE NEVER DID THAT.
I KIND OF DISCUSSED THIS LAST WEEK AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, THERE, THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU REDUCE THE NUMBERS, UH, IF YOU WENT WITH JUST WHAT HE SPENT, THESE ARE, THESE NUMBERS ARE DOUBLE WHAT WHAT WE WENT WITH CATTLE CLEANUP.
YOU REDUCE IT BACK TO HALF, THEN NATURE CALLS IS, UH, OVERALL LITTLE BETTER.
UH, THERE WERE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME VARIABLES THERE FAR AS THE, UH, CONTAINERS THAT WERE FURNISHED FOR, UH, THE RECYCLABLE.
UM, WE CALLED EACH VENDOR TO FIND OUT JUST WHAT THEY WERE FURNISHING.
AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TABULATION, UH, IT SHOWS THAT ONE VENDOR HAS ONE CONTAINER THAT'S NOT SEPARATED.
ANOTHER VENDOR HAS ONE CONTAINER SEPARATED.
UH, ONE VENDOR HAS TWO CONTAINERS MAKE CALLS, ONE FURNISHED THREE CONTAINERS.
SO THERE'S JUST NOT ONE EASY WAY TO DETERMINE, UH, IF YOU WENT CONSERVATIVE, UH, METRIC CALLS WOULD BE LOW BID.
AND IF YOU WILL, I CAN PRESENT, UH, THIS DOUBLE NUMBERS DUNKING IS BUT ONLY ABOUT THREE 40.
AND I THINK THERE'S A THOUGHT THERE THAT UH, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE, THE, THE PAPERWORK KEEPING UP WITH THE TONNAGE AND THE COST OVERCHARGED, WELL, IF THEY GIMME A, IF THEY GIMME A TICKET BACK THAT'S GOT MORE THAN SEVEN TIMES, I JUST TURN OVER THE SHERIFF.
YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT? THIS HAS BEEN THE REASON I'M MAKING LIGHT OF IT.
'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT CHOICE, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES.
HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE US TO FILL A DUMPSTER? THIS IS A, THIS IS AN INFANT DISPOSAL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE STARTING.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'LL TAKE ANY ARGUMENTS YOU WANT BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.
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UH, AND WE'RE, MY CONCERN IS JUST PROTECTING THE COUNTY.UH, AND I'M JUST GONNA GO ON WHAT JACK RECOMMENDS IT, BECAUSE HE AND I, HE AND I WENT OVER IT SO MANY TIMES.
MARILYN AND I WENT OVER IT MANY TIMES AND WE REALLY COULDN'T COME UP UNLESS YOU MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS.
WELL, ANOTHER THING CONSIDER TOO IS ALTHOUGH WE ONLY ASKED FOR QUOTES ON 30 AND 40 YARD, UH, DUNCAN DID NOT BID, UH, 40 YARD ON ON ONE OF CONTAINERS.
UH, AND, AND NATURE CALLS BID 30 AND 40, I THINK COMMISSIONER PREFERRED 40 YARD.
I THINK AS FAR AS, UH, UH, IF, IF WE HAVE LESS HAULS THAN WHAT'S ON HERE, THEN, THEN WE'RE GONNA SPEND MORE MONEY DUMP THAN WE WOULD WITH NATURE CALLS BECAUSE OF THE RENTAL.
I THINK THE RENTAL THING KIND OF SKEWS THIS.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A CHEAPER PRICE PER HAUL, BUT IF YOU'RE PAYING $1,500 PER CONTAINER PER YEAR, UH, THE LESS HAULS YOU MAKE, OBVIOUSLY THEN YOU'RE NOT LOW BID.
YOU DON'T HAVE 40 YARD CONTAINERS OR YOU WE DON'T HAVE AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME.
HAVE, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A NEW PROJECT, SO WE WE'RE JUST LIKE, YOU'RE, I MEAN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON NOTHING.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU START PUTTING 40 OUT, WE'VE GOT 40 YARDS SITTING ALL OVER THE, THAT WE CAN'T PICK UP THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY OVERLOAD THE MATERIAL THAT WE COULDN'T, I MEAN, PICK OFF.
SO WE JUST CHOSE, UH, THEY COULD NOT BID.
WE DO HAVE, AND I MEAN IF WE GET SOME TYPE OF ASSURANCE OR OUT EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS GOING BE GOING IN, WE COULD GET YOU THAT NUMBER.
BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BACK INTO THAT NUMBER BASED ON THE THIRD.
IS IT BASED? IS IT BASED ON YARDS? YES.
YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE A PRETTY GOOD START.
I JUST WANT TO BE FAIR TO THE BID AND I WANT TO BE FAIR TO THE COUNTY THAT THAT'S MY, MY DILEMMA, THAT THEY ACCEPT THEM TONGUE ON FIGURE.
WELL, THE PROBLEM IS, SIR, I I REALLY CAN'T ADJUST THAT.
IT, IT IS A REAL TOUGH DECISION.
UH, ONE, ONE THING IS, UH, UH, IF WE'LL HAVE HAVE COUNTYWIDE CLEAN UP THAT'S FREE IN, IN KEMP, PEOPLE HAVE STORED EVERYTHING FOR A YEAR.
UH, UH, AS MUCH HATE TO SAY IT, I, I KIND OF WONDER IF IF WE SHOULD, UH, UH, GO WITH, WITH UH, NATURE CALLS JUST DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER, THAT THEY WOULD BE CHEAPER, UH, LESS PAPERWORK KEEPING UP WITH THE TONNAGE.
UH, YOU KNOW, MY IMPRESSION MAY BE TO, UH, RATHER THAN HAVE THIS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, OR I THINK WE HAVE IT ONE YEAR WITH FOUR ONE YEAR RENEWALS THAT MAYBE WE JUST DO THIS ONE YEAR AND LOOK AT IT AND WE HAVE A BETTER RECORD OF OUR QUANTITIES AND THEN JUST RE BE FAIR REBID AT THE END OF THAT 12 MONTH PERIOD.
THERE'S JUST REALLY NO FAIR WAY TO DO IT.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR HAUL GONNA BE.
AND THAT MAY BE JUST A DECIDING THING THERE.
I HATE TO SAY IT'S A DECIDING THING BECAUSE THAT WASN'T ONE OF OUR CRITERIA.
WE, UH, ALTHOUGH I LIKE TO KEEP IT LOCALLY, IT WASN'T ONE OF THE CRITERIA.
WE CAN SAVE MONEY WITH ANOTHER OUT A CAN VENDOR.
BUT THAT'S NOT, AND IT'S NOT EASY.
I YOU, YOU FEEL THAT NATURE CALLS WOULD BE THE, WOULD BE THE MOST, UH, CONVENIENT, LEAST EXPENSIVE.
I, I DO ONLY BECAUSE, UH, WELL BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, THEY'RE HIGH BY THREE $42.
AND I FEEL PRETTY SURE THAT WHEN WE PAY THE TONNAGE THAT THE $20
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PER TON OVER SEVEN TIMES THAT WE'LL EAT UP AT 3 42 REAL QUICK.AND THEN, AND THEN THEY, THEY WOULD BE THE LITTLE BID IF YOU WERE BY REDUCING THE NUMBERS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEFINITELY A LITTLE BETTER.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UH, UH, NATURE CALLS THIS TIME YOUR ISSUE ON THE 40 TONS IS BECAUSE I KNOW FROM EXPERIAN THAT WE CAN PUT A LOT OF CONCRETE ON A 40 TONS AND YOU CAN'T PICK IT OFF THE GROUND.
UH, I'VE BEEN ON A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION SITES WHERE THEY DO THAT AND, AND I I EMPATHIZE WITH, WITH YOUR POSITION.
UM, BUT PEOPLE, ALL MEN SHOULDN'T BE, HAVE THAT MUCH ON THE PICKUP IN THE BACK OF THE CAR.
UH, I'M, I'M SURE THEY'RE AWARE AND EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO COMPACT WITH A BACKHOE TO GET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF WEIGHT, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TRASH IN THAT, IN THAT DUMPSTER.
I, I WOULD'VE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TWO WAYS.
UH, THEY ARE THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER.
UH, AND, AND WE COULD I MORE ON THAT THEN DO A CHANGE ORDER AFTER THE FACT TO, YOU KNOW, BE 40 YARD CONTAINER.
THE, THE VARIABLES, IF DUNCAN IS LOW BID, I, I THINK WE NEED TO GO WITH DUNCAN.
BUT THE, THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS THE COST OF THE RENTAL.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I'M GONNA HAVE A CONTAINER.
IF IT'S TWO WEEKS, IT'S GONNA BE CHEAPER.
IF IT'S TWO MONTHS, IT'S GONNA BE MORE, TWO MONTHS WOULD BE $250.
THAT'S 60 HALF OF 1 25, 62 50, OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
AND, AND CALCULATING WHAT MY COST IS, THAT'S, THAT'S, THIS IS MY ISSUE.
UH, WELL, I'LL LOOK AT THAT AS YOU'RE GONNA ALWAYS HAVE A CONTAINER THERE BECAUSE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY PICK ONE UP, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA DROP ONE OFF.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A STRAIGHT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
1500 A MONTH, UH, PER CONTAINER.
AND THAT'S WHY DUNCAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST PER LOAD, THEY'RE, THEY ARE CONSIDERABLY LOWER.
UH, BUT THEY'VE GOT THE RENTAL FACTORED IN.
SO IF THE, IF THE, UH, HAUL RATE GOES UP, THEN IT'S A BETTER DEAL FOR THE COUNTY.
SO DECK, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE CONTAINER RENTAL IS GOING TO BE CON A CONTINUOUS $1,500 A YEAR YES.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST ADD THAT TO THE HAULING TO THE, TO THE, THE, THE UNIT PRICE FOR HAULING KNOW TWO 30 TO HAUL, UM, PLUS ONE 12 OF 1500.
YOU KNOW, IT IS, IS THAT 1500 JACK INCLUDED IN THIS 24 7 AT THE BOTTOM? YES SIR.
THAT, THAT, UH, RENTAL IS FOR ALL, ALL THREE CONTAINERS.
UH, OH, THAT'S FOR THREE CONTAINERS, RIGHT? YOU THINK THAT'S FOR A YEAR? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE BASICALLY IT, IT IS A CHARGE PER MONTH.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING, IF WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER ONE AND THEN PICK IT UP AND DROP ANOTHER, THEN YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE A CLAIM.
AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE MORE HAULS WE HAVE, THEN THAT RENTAL FEE BECOMES LESS SIGNIFICANT.
WELL, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT SOMEONE FROM DUNCAN, AT LEAST SHOWING UP HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT WANTING TO BID 40 YARDERS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION SITES, FRONT END OF THAT TRUCK AND PLUM OFF THE GROUND, TRY TO PICK EVERYTHING UP AND IT ALL FAIRNESS, WE DID NOT SAY THAT HAD TO MEANT FOR NOW I EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH NATURE CALLS IS A LOCAL, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO GO WITH CALCULATED AND ASSUMED LOW COST.
UH, LET'S THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER.
AND WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA KEEP TRACK OF THAT SEVEN TIMES.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT.
IT'S A ONE YEAR BEFORE OR ONE YEAR RENEWAL.
UH, THIS WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHAT THE YEAH.
YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO OF 'EM.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT CONSIDERED.
AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TAKE THE CHIEF THAT I, UH, AND, AND MOTION MADE TO, TO USE DUNCAN AS, UH, AS OUR AWARD IN THE 20 CONTRACT FOR ALL FROM THE CONVENIENCE STATION MOTION MADE, UH, TO AWARD DUNCAN DISPOSAL.
THE CONTRACT IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
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ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL AYE, AYE.I GOT, I THINK JACK HAS THE ONE ABOUT THE CLEANUP TOO, DON'T YOU? YES SIR.
DO YOU I I'LL PUT IT ON THERE.
I'LL SEND, OKAY, NEXT ONE IS, UH, SETTING A DATE FOR THE COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP.
DID HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE, UH, CONTACT ME HERE RECENTLY, JUST INQUIRING ABOUT THAT.
SO I, I PUT THAT FULL COMMISSION COURT TO, UH, SET A DATE.
I THINK THE ONLY REQUEST I'VE HAD IS THAT DON'T SET IT ON MOTHER'S DAY.
THAT'S, SO WE HAVE THE WEEK 19TH, UH, 18 19TH, 17.
THE WEEK AFTER THE AFTER 19TH.
I THINK I'LL SAY THIS, I WAS INFORMED, UH, WHILE AGO THAT TERRELL WAS HAVING THERE IS ON, ON THE 12TH, AND I THINK THERE WAS A DESIRE KEPT THE SAME WEEK.
DOES IT MATTER TO US IF OUR, WELL, WE 15TH WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING UP UNTIL LAST YEAR.
WE, WELL KIND HOW'D THAT WORK OUT LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE NOT, WE HAD TO DO THE TWO WEEKENDS.
AND SO, UH, I'D REALLY PREFER FOR SOME GOOD ONE.
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN TALK TO THE CITY OF ONTARIO? THEY CAN MOVE IT UP WITH US OR I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE TOGETHER.
UH, WE CAN DO IT MEAN, HOLD ON.
I THINK IT'S, BUT IT DOESN'T DO WHAT KIND? DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO US? IF IT'S ON THE 18TH OF THE 12TH, 17TH, WHY ARE WE HAVING IT? REASON? WELL, WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A JOINT DEALER, UH, GOT LANDFILL AND SO WE DID OUR GUYS, GUYS ALSO.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT HAVING THAT WEEKEND.
I'D REALLY LIKE WITH
THEY PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER.
IT'D BE SIMPLER, MORE EFFICIENT I WOULD THINK IF THEY WERE BOTH THE SAME LITTLE LATER, SIR, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REASON.
DO WE SEE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN DOING IT WITH CAROL UP UNTIL LAST YEAR, THE FIRST TIME DON'T JOIN.
CAN YOU JOIN THE USER EMPLOYEES? I MEAN, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE DO IT MY FOLKS HAVE ON MOTHER'S DAY.
OR DON'T, DO NOT YOUR WHAT MY FOLKS, IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE IT ON MOTHER'S DAY.
WAIT, IS, IS THAT THE MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND? WAIT, LET'S HAPPEN.
THAT'D BE A NICE PRESENT FOR MOTHER'S DAY.
NO, THAT, THAT MAY BE A PROBLEM.
AND THAT IS, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
THAT IS A MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND.
I BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, BUT, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD SET THE DATE THEY PREFER AND MAYBE WE'D HOPE THAT THE CITY WOULD JOIN IT WITH US.
I I STILL WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CALL GARDEN AND JUST TALK TO HIM.
SEE IF THEY EXPLAINED TO THEM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
YEAH, JUST TELL 'EM THAT THE COUNTY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE IT ON MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND.
AND SO COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP'S GOING TO BE Y'ALL DO THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
I'D LIKE TO DO A THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
THAT'D BE THE, UH, MAY THE 17TH, 18TH AND 19TH.
YEAH, I'LL GO WITH YOU TO SEE.
I'LL GIVE A CALL, NOT PROBLEM.
OKAY, WELL WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO, UM, HAVE THE COUNTYWIDE CLEAN UP.
MAY 17TH, 18TH, AND 19TH 2007.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLL.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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NEXT ITEM.THIS DOESN'T CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR THE WASTE HAULING FOR THE TON COUNTY CLEANUP.
JUDGE, I, I'M LOOKING FOR PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE.
I I DO NOT HAVE DATES SET THIS TIME FOR THE BID BECAUSE I NEED TO GIVE COMMISSIONERS AND SET UP A, UH, PRE-BID.
I'M ASSUMING WE'D WANNA ALL MEET AGAIN LIKE WE DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO, YET GOOD IDEA.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE PERMISSION TO, UH, TO ADVERTISE, BUT WITHOUT SETTING A DATE AT THIS TIME.
JERRY RATHER MAKES THE MOTION.
KEN, SHANE, SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION CENTER ACKNOWLEDGE IN THE RECEIPT OF COMMISSIONER JERRY ROUNDS CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS AND OPEN RECORDS.
SPENT FOUR DAYS IN AUSTIN TO GET THAT DONE.
THEY SAID I STILL, YEAH, MY COMPUTER WON'T ACCEPT.
OH, REALLY? I'M GOING TO THE LAPTOP TO GET IT DOWN.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN CONSIDER THE REQUEST FROM NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT TO INSTALL NEW RAW WATER PIPELINE ACROSS COUNTY ROADS.
3 29, 3 33 36, 3 37, 3 38, 3 40.
AND AN UNNAMED THE COUNTY ROAD IN PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S TOM SAWER.
IS THIS THAT PIPELINE THAT YOU PIPE WATER FROM CRANDLE BACK TO? NO, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S COMING OUTTA LAVO.
I MEAN, OUT OF NEY GOING TO, UH, THE NEW WATER SUPPLY AREA, THEY, THEY HAVE OFFERED THREE 30 THEY'RE BUILDING AND THEN THAT WILL GO FROM THREE 30 ALL THE WAY TO ROCKWALL.
AS I NOTICED, IF YOU, IF YOU DRIVE IN ON UH, 80, I MEAN ON 20 DRIVING DOWN ON 20, RIGHT AFTER YOU GET PAST THE TREND, YOU CAN SEE THE PIPELINE AND YOU SEE THAT LINE GOING THROUGH THERE.
BUT I GUESS MOST OF THOSE ROAD WOULD BEING FOUR AND 10.
NO, THEY, THEY'VE NOT STARTED THAT.
THEY'RE BORN 80 RIGHT NOW FROM FOUR INCH OR 84 INCH LAND.
BUT THE ONE YOU SAW IS NOT THE RECYCLE LINE.
IT'S COMING UP 7 41 AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER OF THE DIAMETER EXISTING ONES THAT GO FROM WALK ME TO AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO DALLAS AND PUT UP, ALRIGHT.
YOU AND I GUESS YOU TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT PUTTING THAT COUNTY ROAD BACK LIKE IT IS.
YEAH, THAT'S, THEY GONNA HAVE A DETOUR.
THEY'RE GONNA CLOSE THAT ROAD.
SO THEY CAN'T, CAN'T TAKE BOTH.
WELL COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL MAKE THAT MOTION RIGHT.
SECOND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL SECOND IT.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RENEWING OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER, ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS AND APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE DUTY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
NEXT WE HAVE IS CONSIDERED DENTATION OF DENNIS CIPHER FOR THE COLTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER SECOND, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
NOW WE HAVE A CROWN, THAT CROWN MOTION ROLL FROM, UH, JANUARY 25TH, JUDGE, LOOKING AT THOSE FIGURES, THOSE, UH, THEY MAY BE ANTICIPATING THAT LAW COMING INTO EFFECT, BUT 'CAUSE OF THE, THE, UH, NUMBER OF ANIMALS PROCESSES CUT IN HALF IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO ANYWAY, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UH,
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ACKNOWLEDGE, RECOGNIZE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS, UH, REPORT.ACKNOWLEDGE, ACKNOWLEDGE, ACKNOWLEDGE THE FILING OF THE FILING.
BY THE TIME YOU GET IT RIGHT, YOU HAVE TO FOUR.
GRANT, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THIS REPORT, MR. ER SECONDS.
IT UH, THERE IS A MOVEMENT AMONG SOME OF THE COUNTIES IN TEXAS TO, UH, TRY AND GET SOMEONE TO SUPPORT CHANGING THE TEXAS LAW BECAUSE SOME OF THE COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ALREADY GETTING REPORTS ON, UH, ARE Y'ALL GONNA COME OUT AND BURY THESE DEAD HORSES? UH, AND SO I EXPLAINED TO HIM, I, YOU KNOW, KNEW WE COULDN'T PUT, JERRY'S ALREADY HAD A PROBLEM.
BANK KNEW WE COULDN'T PUT COUNTY EQUIPMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TO BURY A HORSE.
NUMBER ONE, TCEQ WON'T LET YOU.
NUMBER TWO, UH, THE ONES THAT I TALKED TO ARE AFRAID THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE DUMPED IN THE COUNTY DITCH.
AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WHEN ALL THESE HORSES STARTED BEING DUMPED IN THE COUNTY DITCHES.
AND UH, SO THEY WANTED ME TO WORK WITH THEM ON TRYING TO CHANGE THE TEXAS LAW AND I BASICALLY TOLD SOME OF 'EM THAT I WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE SITUATION.
IT'D BE BETTER IF I JUST STAYED OUT OF THAT FIGHT.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE IN THIS LEGISLATURE.
WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE THEIR SUGGESTION? WHAT WOULD BE THE WAY CHANGE THE TEXAS LAW WHERE IT WON'T BE ILLEGAL TO DO WHAT? TO CONTINUE SLAUGHTERING, ENFORCE.
OH, OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
CHANGE THE LAW TO WHERE IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.
YOU KNOW, THE FIFTH CIRCUIT RULE THAT THE TEXAS LAW WAS, WAS CONSTITUTIONAL.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE WHOLE TEXAS LAW WHERE THE PLANTS CAN OPERATE LEGALLY.
DOES THAT TAKE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, THAT KIND OF STUFF OR NO? NO.
ANYWAY, DID WE ALL VOTE IN FAVOR TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OR ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLLOWING OF THAT? YES, WE DID.
UH, ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFER? YES, SIR.
GENERAL GOVERNOR WILL PROPOSE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FOR, UH, NEW EQUIPMENT, $10,000 REDUCTION OF MISCELLANEOUS JP THREE, INCREASED NEW EQUIPMENT, 1003 64 PRODUCTION AND EXTRA HELP.
JP FOUR INCREASED BONDS, $53 INDUCTION IN EDUCATION CONFERENCES.
INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS 500 WITH REDUCTION IN MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING IN THE COMPUTER AREA.
WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SWITCH BETWEEN SOFTWARE GROUP AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES AUTOMATION.
Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ON TRANSFER REQUEST OR ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL KEY? ANY WITH NONE.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
SECOND BY MR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DO WE HAVE ANY BILLS TO PAY TODAY? YES SIR.
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HOW DID YOU HAPPEN TO WATCH THAT BASKETBALL GAME SATURDAY? YES SIR.THAT WAS KIND OF, WE HAD ONE LIKE FOUR TIMES AND GAVE AWAY PROBABLY SIZES.
I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN TWO FOOT.
PROBABLY BE 10 OR MAYBE MY GUESS MORE CENTRAL IF WE HAVE WE SERVICE IN AUSTIN FRIDAY.
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YEAH.IS SHE IN THE HOSPITAL OR IS SHE BACK? NO, SHE'S BACK ON SHOCK THIS MORNING.
SHE PARKED BACK IN THE, OH, SHE JUST GOT ARR.
SHE KEPT THINKING SHE WAS HAVING, SHE DIDN'T WALK VERY FAR.
LAST WEDNESDAY I SAT WITH THE, UH, AT THE CONFERENCE OF URBAN COUNTY LUNCH WITH, SO I TOLD HIM I NEEDED SPRING BASEBALL SCHEDULE AND NEXT FALL FOOTBALL SCHEDULE.
HE SUPPOSED UP SOME PRETTY GOOD FIFTH IN LIKE BROWN SAID.
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ARE THEY CONSPIRING AGAINST US? OH, AGAINST YOU COMPARED TO THE, I DUNNO.OUTTA THE GARBAGE, WHICH I DON'T THINK GOING OUTTA GARBAGE.
I THINK IF PEOPLE COME IN FROM DALLAS AND THEY GET SOMETHING WHEN THEY GET, AS SOON AS THEY TURN OUT ON ONE, THEY THROW ALL THE TRASH OUT PLATES, SACKS AND THE WEATHER GETS BETTER.
I'M GONNA USE THAT STAR PROGRAM.
IT'S IF THEY DUMP ANOTHER IN THE SAME, I'M GONNA SEE DOES THE SHERIFF COME, GETS BUZZER.
SO THE BUZZER, WHAT WE DO ABOUT THAT? YOU GOT A FRONT END LOADER AND A DUMP TRUCK PUT IN FRONT.
MATTER OF FACT, I GOT ONE THAT'S, UH, LATE IN THE BARN IN MY HAY.
OH REALLY? WHAT YOU DOING RANDY, QUESTION JUST NOW VISITING
I GUESS OLD TECH GOES TO THE, TO THE BIG 12 TOURNAMENT.
WELL, UNLESS I SAY I SHOULD SAY LET'S HOPE TECH SHOWS UP AT THE BIG 12 TOURNAMENT.
OKAY, WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANYBODY NEED PRAYING BEFORE WE ADJOURN
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THE HOLIDAY? NEXT MONDAY'S THE HOLIDAY.AND UM, AND I THINK THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY, DAWN, SO YOU MAY PRESIDE.
YOU'RE THE SENIOR SENIOR HONOR.
THE BAG WAS SET BESIDES JUST, I'M THE OLDEST OR SOMETHING, BUT HE DIDN'T SAY YEARS IN TALKING OR AGE 26.
UH, I WON'T BE HERE, BUT YOU CAN PRESENT.
MAKE SURE SHE'S GOT EVERYTHING SET UP.
WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, ADJOURN AJOUR MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK TO ADJOURN.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOTION.