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PLEASE, I'LL ASK, UH, CHRIST HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WITH, UH, PLEASE LIGHTEN THE DARK PLACES IN OUR MINDS.

PLEASE WARM THE COLD PLACES OF OUR HEARTS AND HEAL THE INJURED PLACES IN OUR SOUL.

PLEASE STAND UPON US TODAY WITH FAVOR AS WE MEET TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY, AND GIVE US THE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING TO, UH, MAKE COURTS ALWAYS TO LOOK DOWN IN FAVOR WITH OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY.

AND, UH, ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME, ALLEGIANCE, FLAG OF THE AND TO THE REPUBLIC.

HONOR GOD, JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR.

Y'ALL LY BEEN TO THE LAST MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED? MOTION MADE BY, BY COMMISSION? ALL SAY, AYE.

CARRIE, JUDGE, CAN I, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? JUST A YES, SIR.

UH, UM, RAY CLARK MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER'S WORKSHOP BECAUSE HIS WORK ON OUR ROADS WITH EMOTIONS AND OILS AND CHIP SEAL AND WHATEVER.

HE WANTS TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SO WE CAN SHARE ON THE HEARING MONDAY.

THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S TAKEN ALL YOUR TIME AND TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF MINE.

UH, UM, LET'S GET THAT DONE.

UH, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE AND WE'LL CARRY THIS EQUIPMENT, HAVE TO GET IT ENACTED.

UM, SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S, AND I'VE HEARD SO FROM DALLAS .

REALLY? OH, YEAH.

I, THAT'S RAISED FAULT.

OH, THAT'S GOOD.

I'M, I'M ANXIOUS TO HAVE THIS WHOLE MEETING AND DECIDE, UH, ABOUT EQUIPMENT AND HOW WE CAN SHARE IT AND BE MORE EFFICIENT.

THE WHOLE THING, THE REASON I GOT THAT LAID DOWN MACHINE, UH, PEACH STREET QUOTED 65,000, THIS IS A YEAR AGO.

65,000 ASPHALT FOR A MILE COST, 40 BOTTLE, EIGHT OUT MACHINE.

FIRST MILE.

I DID IT.

TAKE CARE OF IT AT ONE.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT AS WELL USE IT IF WE WENT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY TO AS BOUGHT A LOT OF ROADS, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN DO A MILE OR TWO.

DON'T WANT THAT MACHINE TO SIT AND UP.

YEAH, SAME.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE TOLD YOU ALL THE STORY, BUT, UH, I GO TOGETHER AND BUY, LAY DOWN THE MACHINE AND THE OILER AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEY DID.

AND WERE GOING TO USE COMMISSIONER'S.

COURT PEOPLE CHANGED IN 83.

THEY QUIT BEING ABLE TO GET ALONG.

OH.

AND QUIT BEING ABLE ONE PRECINCT, THE COUNTY BOUGHT IT AS A WHOLE, SO THEY QUIT BEING ABLE TO AGREE 'CAUSE EVERYBODY WANTED AT THE SAME TIME FROM IT.

AND IT SET OUT THERE WHEN YOU USED FOR A LONG TIME.

FINALLY.

I UNDERSTAND THEY SOLD IT BACK IN THE EARLY YEARS.

BUT ANYWAY, AND RICK, I THINK WE GOT, WE GOT A GOOD GROUP OF GUYS.

I DID TOO.

WE HAD A WORKSHOP ON THE, UH, JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING TOO, COMPLETELY OFF THE SUBJECT FROM THAT.

BUT WE HAD, UH, A LITTLE OPEN HOUSE OUT AT THE, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS THURSDAY, LAST THURSDAY.

I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WERE THERE AND HAD A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THE WHOLE THING.

I THINK, UH, WENT, UH, WE HAD A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE STUFF.

MR. PORTER TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT HE HAD.

UH, SO IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A GREAT, UH, A GREAT OPEN DOOR.

JACK WAS OUT THERE.

HE SAW ALL THE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH.

HE LOCKED HIS OFFICE SO NO ONE COULD GET IN.

.

UH, ANYWAY, I, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, JACK, AND THAT HELPED US WORK ON THIS AND MAKE THIS A SUCCESS.

SO LET ALL YOUR GIRLS KNOW, UH, EMILY AND EVERYBODY ELSE OUT THERE, HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH THEIR COMMISSIONERS.

SEE WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR A WORKSHOP.

UH, LIKE I SAID, MY PRIORITY RIGHT NOW IS GET THIS ROAD BUSINESS SQUARED AWAY, MARK FIFTH, THE NEXT PROJECT I'D LIKE TO HAVE, UNLESS I'M STEPPING ON SOMEBODY'S TOES OR WHATEVER, IF WITH THE SHERIFF AFTER, UH, THE JAIL IS PASSED, JUST NOTICING THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, UH, A LOT OF ENERGY INEFFICIENCIES.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT LIKE $750,000, THREE $4 MILLION IN UTILITY BILLS FOR ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS.

WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE FOR US TO DO A STUDY ON WHAT WE COULD DO

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TO REDUCE THIS ENERGY COST? I'VE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED BY A COMPANY THAT DOES THAT THROUGHOUT THE PANAMA.

AND, UH, I WAS GETTING THE INFORMATION ON AND PUT ON THE AGENDA IN A COUPLE MORE.

YOU GOTTA HAVE TO SEE IF, UM, IF WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO THAT STUDY.

AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S, THEY DO.

THE STUDY DOESN'T COST ANYTHING UNLESS THEY DO SEE HOW TALK HIM, I THINK, AND JACK, I DON'T KNOW IF HE TALKED TO YOU WHEN HE CAME BY NO.

A FEW WEEKS AGO, BUT, UH, WE DON'T PAY HIM ANYTHING UNLESS THEY SAVE US MONEY.

CORRECT.

SO ARE WE NOT UNDER AN UMBRELLA RIGHT NOW? WELL, WITH OUR POWER, WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT WITH, UH, CUC POWER POOL.

BUT THIS ENCOMPASSES MORE THAN JUST THE ELECTRICITY.

IT ENCOMPASSES, UH, ALL TYPES OF ENERGY USAGE, TYPE OF AIR CONDITIONERS, UH, EVERYTHING.

UNDERSTAND NOT JUST THE ELECTRIC POWER, IT SHOULD PAY FOR ITSELF.

WELL, DOESN'T COST ANYTHING UNLESS THEY DO.

BUT AS FAR AS THE POWER ITSELF, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET A BETTER DEAL THAN WHAT OUR POWER POOL WAS AS FAR AS ELECTRICITY.

THE MAIN THING THERE IS HOW I FOUND OUT THAT AT ONE TIME EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN CONVERTED OVER, BUT, BUT THE POWER COMPANY DID NOT PUT THE GEL ON.

THE NEW POOL GEL WAS STILL BEING ON, I GUESS PPL AT THE TIME OF TEXAS UTILITIES WHERE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE COUNTY WAS ON THE POWER.

BUT, UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN.

AS SOON AS WE NOTIFIED THEM THAT THAT WASN'T DONE, THEN THEY, UH, WERE SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE SOLAR COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS OR NOT.

I WANTED TO ASK.

THAT'S IMPORTANT.

ANYTHING ELSE? UH, MY HAND, UH, OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM THIS MORNING IS, UH, SCOTT, PASTOR KNACK.

UH, SPEAKING OF, UH, THINGS WORK FOR THE COUNTY.

SCOTT.

SCOTT, YOU'VE BEEN HERE WITH THIS AND, UH, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER IF THE, OUR NEW COMMISSIONER WAS HERE WHEN HE PRESENTED THE PROGRAM OR NOT, BUT, UH, YEAH, I DON'T RECALL THAT SPECIFICALLY EITHER, BUT I, I DO RECALL THAT, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE, UH, FULL MEMBERSHIP OF THE COURT HERE THAT DAY AS WELL.

SO, UH, I CAN, AS I GET INTO WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THIS MORNING, YOU ALL CAN JUST GIMME SOME FEEDBACK AS FAR AS HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE DETAIL YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO GET INTO.

AND WHAT I'M PASSING OUT IS, IS A, A BRIEF AGENDA THAT CAN KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO COVER WITH YOU ALL THIS MORNING.

AS WELL AS, UH, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION OF, OF THE TOPICS AT HAND.

AND ALSO, UH, AN ACTUAL COPY OF, OF THE CONTRACT AND SCOPE OF WORK THAT R TO BE BACK DOES HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WITH COFFMAN COUNTY.

UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO, TO START OFF, AS FAR AS THE, THE HISTORY OF, OF THIS, UH, WE VISITED WITH, WITH THE COURT, UH, LAST SUMMER.

IT WAS PROBABLY IN THE JULY TIMEFRAME.

AND AT THE TIME, RW BECK WAS, WAS DOING WORK DIRECTLY BOARD NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, UH, AS THE COG HAS BEEN DIRECTED BY THE STATE TO EITHER, UH, MAKE DECISIONS ON ITS OWN OR TO WORK WITH THE COUNTIES TO PROVIDE OPTIONS TO THE COUNTIES, COUNTIES WHERE EACH COUNTY IN TEXAS CAN, IF, IF SO CHOOSES ACTUALLY ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO HAVE GREATER CONTROL OVER THEIR SOLID WASTE FACILITIES VIA LANDFILLS OR TRANSPORTATION TRANSFER STATIONS CAN BE CITED WITHIN THEIR COUNTY.

SO WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU ALL IN JULY, WE ESSENTIALLY TALKED TO YOU ALL AND ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER KAUFMAN COUNTY WOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN APPLYING FOR A GRANT TO HIRE A FIRM TO DO A STUDY FOR YOU ALL TO ALLOW YOU ALL TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO, UH, STATE WHERE THESE FACILITIES COULD OR COULD NOT BE PLACED WITHIN THE COUNTY.

AND SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN IS RWV ESSENTIALLY WORKED WITH MARILYN MA, MARILYN MAY, AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP, AND WERE ABLE TO, UH, GET THE DETAILS TOGETHER FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION THAT WAS FORMALLY SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY.

UH, THE COUNTY DID IN FACT, UH, RECEIVE THE GRANT AWARD FOR $25,000.

AND THEN AS OF JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, THE COUNTY HAS CONTRACTED WITH RW BECK TO DO THIS WORK ON BEHALF

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OF THE COUNTY.

SO WE'RE REALLY JUST GETTING STARTED RIGHT NOW AS, AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL AGAIN THIS MORNING TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL BE DOING, UH, TO ASK FOR INPUT FOR YOU FROM YOU ALL, EITHER TODAY OR OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS TO A COUPLE MONTHS.

UH, AS FAR AS WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OR IDEAS AS, AS FAR AS WHERE FACILITIES COULD OR COULD NOT MAKE SENSE, AS FOR AS FAR AS WHERE THEY MIGHT GO.

AND, AND THE REASON WHY ALL THIS IS IMPORTANT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS AGAIN, OUR WORK PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE TO YOU ALL WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER FOR POTENTIAL ADOPTION, UH, AS AN ORDINANCE, UH, BY THE COUNTY.

AND, AND SO, UH, I I GUESS THE FIRST THING I I WOULD ASK YOU IS, UH, I, I PUT TOGETHER THIS, THIS AGENDA HERE FOR YOU ALL, AND WE'LL JUST ASK YOU ALL THE QUESTION OF, DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST WALK THROUGH THAT OR ARE THERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU WANT ME TO FOCUS ON MORE SO, OR, OR NOT, OR DO YOU JUST WANT ME TO GET INTO IT AS, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT YOU LET KNOW IF YOU HAVE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY.

I THINK JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

ONE THING THAT, UH, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. CLARK, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN AND WE DON'T COME UP WITH AREAS THAT A SOLID WASTE FACILITY CAN BE PLACED, THEN PERSON CAN BE PLACED ABOUT ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT, UH, COMPANY IS DOING, DOING THIS SURVEY OF THE COUNTY AND COMING UP WITH IDEAS.

AND, UH, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING GREAT THE PLAN AND HAVE IT IN PLACE, THEN SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND PUT ASIDE WASTE DISPOSAL AREAS WHERE THEY WANT TO THAT.

OKAY.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT HALF A MILE OR A QUARTER MILE OUT OF THE CEDAR LIMITS.

YEAH.

OR IT COULD BE FIVE MILE 10 MINUTES CONVENIENCE STATION, ANY PRIVATE CONCERN.

EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALREADY ONE, YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A CONVENIENCE STATION FOR YOUR RESIDENCE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

OKAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LARGER SCALE, EITHER COMMERCIAL TRANSFER STATIONS OR MORE LIKELY, UH, LANDFILLS, UH, IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

UH, LIKE YOU HAVE LITTLE THIRD AVALON.

CORRECT.

EXACTLY.

BIG.

AND, AND SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE JUDGE, I THINK, I THINK DID A VERY GOOD JOB THERE JUST OF SUMMARIZING THE ISSUE.

AND ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU WAIT UNTIL AN APPLICANT ACTUALLY SUBMITS THEIR PAPERWORK TO THE TCEQ, YOU'RE PAST THE POINT AT WHICH YOU CAN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, UH, THAT COULD HAVE OTHERWISE SAID, THESE ARE THE AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY WHERE EITHER LANDFILLS OR TRANSFER STATIONS CANNOT BE CITED.

SO IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, AND, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT OUR WORK PRODUCT COULD BE FOR YOU ALL IS A, AS A REPORT AS WELL AS A SERIES OF MAPS THAT THROUGH A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION, WE'LL SAY, HERE ARE THE AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE THE FACILITIES POTENTIALLY COULD OR, OR COULD NOT BE LOCATED.

AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE THE FULL FORCE OF, OF LAW, UH, TO IT.

BUT PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A VERY OBJECTIVE APPROACH TO THAT AS WELL, SO THAT HOPEFULLY, UH, WHATEVER YOU PUT IN PLACE, UH, CANNOT BE CHALLENGED IN THE FUTURE BY A DEVELOPER THAT WOULD STILL SAY, WELL, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS, WE WANT TO TAKE IT THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S REAL PURPOSE OF WHY WE WANT TO TAKE A VERY RIGOROUS APPROACH TO THIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WHAT WE PROVIDE TO YOU ALL IS GONNA BE VERY OBJECTIVE.

AND, AND ONE REASON I WONDER, WELL, THIS CAME UP LAST, LATE LAST SUMMER, WHY WE JUST NOT GETTING, UH, SCOTT AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE CONTRACT.

THERE WAS SOME, I WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL WORDING IN THE CONTRACT.

AND SO THEY DID THAT FOR US.

AND, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT WAS, AND THE GRANT THAT WE GOT IS PAYING FOR, THAT'S THE KEY.

AND THAT'S COST TO YOU.

YEAH, IT'S NO COST TO US.

IT'S ALL GRANT MONEY, , SHOULD WE NOT PASS AN ORDINANCE RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER WE'VE ALREADY HIRED PASS AN ORDERS TO HIRE HIM.

BUT, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE'S WORKING ON, IS THE TYPE OF ORDINANCE, I MEAN THE WORDING OF THE ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXACT PURPOSE OF WHAT THE COUNTY HAS ESSENTIALLY HIRED OUR QUEBEC TO DO IS TO, TO GO FORTH AND TO, TO DO THAT ANALYSIS.

WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTED ON A SOMEWHAT PRELIMINARY BASIS, WE'VE GOTTEN AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THE GIS OR, OR ELECTRONIC MAPPING DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE FROM THE COUNTY.

AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH A, A PROCESS THERE WHERE

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WE LOOK AT, UM, ALL SORTS OF ISSUES, UM, SUCH AS WHAT ARE, WHERE ARE THE LOCATIONS OF, OF WATER BODIES, FOR EXAMPLE, TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE WOULD HAVE, UH, BUFFER ZONES, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN FACILITIES AND, AND YOUR WATER BODIES.

UM, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY FEDERAL LAW THAT STATES, UH, WHAT THOSE KINDS OF, OF DISTANCES SHOULD BE.

UH, ALSO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HAVE AIR, UH, AIRPORTS, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A BUFFER AROUND THOSE AREAS AS WELL.

AND THE END RESULT WILL BE OUR, THE WHERE, WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE SPECIFIC TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN WHAT'S CHANGING WITHIN A COUNTY, REALLY GETS INTO, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF NOT JUST WHERE YOUR, YOUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL OR OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS, BUT HOW ARE THOSE AREAS ALSO CHANGING.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE THING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ASK INPUT FROM YOU ALL AND, AND OTHER STAFF WITHIN THE COUNTY AS WELL, IS WHILE WE'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THE, THE MAPS AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST, THERE MAY BE, UH, CERTAIN AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT, THAT ARE CHANGING, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW AS YOU SPEAK, AS FAR AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD MENTION IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE US WITH THAT KIND OF INFORMATION TODAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UH, BUT ALSO JUST ANY TIME OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT PROBABLY, UH, SEVERAL, SEVERAL WEEKS TO, UH, TO COUPLE MONTHS, IT COULD BE JUST FINE.

PROVIDE THAT KIND OF INPUT TO US.

UH, 'CAUSE WE'LL BE GOING FORWARD, UH, DUE THE COURSE OF THE WORK BY DEVELOPING THOSE SERIES OF MAPS, UM, IN WHICH WE WILL ELIMINATE AREAS FROM POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH FURTHER DIRECTION OR GUIDANCE, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT, UH, WE, WE, WITHIN OUR, OUR SCOPE OF WORK, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PLANNED THREE MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL WITH TODAY BEING, BEING THE FIRST MEETING.

UH, BUT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, MAYBE YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT BE AS, AS MORE OF A, A WORKSHOP OR A WORKING MEETING.

WHAT WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO HAVE, UH, AT THAT POINT WOULD BE THE, THE DRAFT, UH, ANALYSIS AND THE MAP SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SAY TO US, HEY, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, AND WE CAN PINPOINT IT ON THE MAP AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT REGARD.

YEAH.

WHEN YOU GET READY FOR THAT, JUST CONTACT ANGEL AND JILL.

OKAY.

THIS, THIS DOCUMENT HERE DOES, DOES PROVIDE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND DETAIL.

WE'VE KIND OF COVERED QUITE A, A FEW OF THE THINGS IN HERE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THIS KIND OF WORK THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL, IT ACTUALLY LAYS OUT, UM, WHAT AN ORDINANCE, UM, WHERE THAT IS AND STATE LAW AS WELL AS SOME OF THE, THE KEY ISSUES THAT THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.

PROBABLY ONE THING I I WOULD REALLY EMPHASIZE THERE IS THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU GO THIS THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A LANDFILL DEVELOPER'S GONNA BE COMING KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR TO SAY, HEY, NOW THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THIS AREA IS SUITABLE, WE WANT TO PUT A LANDFILL THERE AND WE'VE GOT A SLIDE ON THAT.

UH, 'CAUSE YOU FIRST HAVE TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE, WHERE THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA IDENTIFY A NEED FOR THAT AND THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL ING PROCESS AT THE TCQ.

SO THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE THAT'S COME UP IN OTHER COUNTIES.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.

UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS, THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY, UH, ADOPTED THIS ORDINANCE, UH, HAVE DIFFERENT DESIRES COME FROM, DESIRES CAN BE LIKE THERE.

UM, I, WE HAVE DONE ORDINANCES WHERE THEY'VE BEEN FINALIZED FOR NAVARRO AND PUT COUNTIES, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH ELLIS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.

AND THE, THE PROCESS, THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE USED IN EACH OF THOSE FOUR OTHER COUNTIES IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN COFFMAN.

BUT THE RESULT, AS FAR AS WHAT THE MAP IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, THAT'S GONNA VARY DEPENDING ON WHAT'S ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ON THE GROUND FROM BEACH COUNTY.

BUT THE PROCESS, THE APPROACH IS, IS THE SAME TOWARD THE, UH, ON, ON PAGE FOUR OF THIS DOCUMENT HERE, THE, THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES AN OUTLINE OF, OF THE SCOPE OF WORK.

I'VE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST TO, UH, TAKE JUST A COUPLE SECONDS ON THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE DOING THAT PRELIMINARY RESEARCH TO IDENTIFY THE RELEVANT SIGHTING ISSUES.

SO THERE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT ARE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, LAND USE CONCERNS, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

THEN LIKE I SAID, WE'LL ALSO, WE'LL COME BACK AND PRESENT THAT

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INFORMATION ON A DRAFT BASIS TO YOU ALL.

UM, AND THEN WITH OUR ANALYSIS, WE'LL DEVELOP THE MAPS AND THEN WORK WITH YOU ALL, UH, PLACE YOU ALL IN A POSITION WHERE AT, AFTER CHOOSING, YOU CAN DECIDE TO ACTUALLY ADOPT AN ORDINANCE IN TIME.

WE, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ON THE LAST PAGE OF THAT HANDOUT, OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

UH, AND YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO EITHER GIVE ME A CALL, SEND ME AN EMAIL, AND ALSO KATIE BROWN IS THE PERSON THAT, THAT'S WORKING DIRECTLY WITH ME ON THIS PROJECT WHERE SHE'S OUR, OUR GIS CONSULTANT.

SHE'S THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY WAS WORKING WITH THE MASS AND DOING A LOT OF THAT DETAILED ANALYSIS.

SO IF YOU WOULD TALK WITH EITHER, EITHER ONE OF US, WE'D BE ABLE TO CERTAINLY HELP YOU.

ALL THE, THE TIMING ON THIS IS, UH, FROM, FROM THE POINT AT WHICH WE SIGNED THE, THE CONTRACT CONTRACT TO HAVE 180 DAYS TO DO ALL THE WORK.

UM, BUT OUR, OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE IT SOONER THAN THAT.

UM, WHERE, WHERE I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK PROBABLY IN ABOUT, UH, TWO MONTHS OR SO WITH, WITH THAT DRAFT ANALYSIS, AND THEN START TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT.

AND THEN FROM, FROM THAT POINT OF REALLY, UH, JUST BE BACK AND IN Y'ALL'S HANDS AS FAR AS HOW DO YOU WANT THE TIMING TO BE AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT ORDINANCE.

AND WE CAN JUST WORK WITH YOU ALL.

UM, HOWEVER, WORKS WITH Y'ALL'S SCHEDULE AND, UH, TIME, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES SO THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PHYSICALLY HAVE PEOPLE OUT ON THE GROUND LOOKING AND WELL, IT'S GIS STUDIES AND YEAH, IT'S, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE OF US, UH, EVALUATING THE, THE GIS DATA.

AND SO AS FAR AS THAT ON THE GROUND ASPECT, THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION OF, OF YOU ALL AS WELL AS COUNTY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON OUT THERE, UH, PHYSICALLY WITHIN THE COUNTY.

AND SO, UH, AND WHAT ONE OF, THERE, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THAT CAN BE DONE EITHER TO LET US KNOW TODAY AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON, WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT RESEARCH.

OR IF YOU EVEN JUST HAVE A, A, A BASIC MAP OF, OF THE COUNTY THAT YOU CAN JUST PHYSICALLY MARK UP TO SAY, HERE'S AN AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, A BIG DEVELOPMENT IS GOING IN, OR JUST ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES FOR US TO BE AWARE OF.

UH, AND AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO CAPTURE ALL THAT, UH, THE FIRST TIME AROUND WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, THE NEXT TIME WE'LL HAVE ALL THOSE MAPS AND WE'LL HAVE A PROJECTOR WHERE WE CAN SHOW EVERYTHING UP, UP ON THE SCREEN.

AND SO IF THERE'S AN AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T CAPTURED APPROPRIATELY, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT AT THAT POINT.

BUT I, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LET US KNOW, UH, IF THERE ARE GONNA BE SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT YOU WANT US TO BE AWARE OF.

AND IF WE ARE MADE AWARE OF THAT, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO SOME FOLLOW ON RESEARCH TO THAT TOO.

THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS MY PRECINCT YOU NEED BE MADE AWARE OF.

OKAY.

WOULD, WOULD YOU, WOULD IT JUST MAKE SENSE FOR US TO GIVE YOU A CALL TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO JUST, THAT'S WHAT YOU TO FOLLOW UP? 'CAUSE THESE THINGS MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN.

THEY'RE, UH, BEING CREATED LEGISLATIVELY RIGHT NOW, SO OKAY.

BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE EIGHT, 10,000 ACRES.

OKAY.

THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN OUTTA YOUR, HAVE Y'ALL GOT, UM, THOSE LITTLE MAPS ABOUT THIS SIZE THAT, UH, WE HAD A BUNCH UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THINGS LIKE THIS? I JUST WENT TO, UH, AUSTIN AND, AND GOT THE BRAND NEW TDOT COUNTY MAP.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE COPIES FOR EACH OF YOU? YES, MA'AM.

AND I'LL GET THOSE TO YOU IN A WEEK OR SO.

YEAH.

AND THEN YOU CAN JUST, I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAPS I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT WE GET PERIODICALLY, RIGHT? I, I JUST LAST WEEK GOT THE YEAH, THAT'D BE, CAN I, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT THOSE POTENTIAL EIGHT TO 10,000 ACRES? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, GIVEN THAT IT'S, THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS STILL IT, IT'LL PROBABLY, IT'LL PROBABLY HAVE WHEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSES OR NOT.

OKAY.

BUT I, THE TIMEFRAME IS, AND I'M, I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW CONCEPT PLANS OFFICE OVER THERE THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF.

OKAY.

SO IF WE JUST FOLLOW UP WITH YOU DIRECTLY ABOUT THAT, THAT YES, THAT'D BE THE BEST THING.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU MADE A COMMENT LONG AGO THAT, UH, IF SOMEBODY WAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS, THEY REACHED TO THE PUNCH.

MM-HMM .

SOMEBODY'S ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS.

OKAY.

NOW, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE PROCESS, IT IS LITERALLY, HAVE THEY FORMALLY FILED THEIR PERMIT APPLICATION IN AUSTIN AT THE TCEQ? THAT'S WHAT I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.

RIGHT.

NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THE, THE SITUATION

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THERE.

UH, AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WHERE THEY'VE LITERALLY HAD A RACE, RIGHT? AND THE RACE WAS, CAN THE COUNTY GET ITS ORDINANCE ADOPTED FIRST OR WOULD THE DEVELOPER BE ABLE TO FILE ITS PERMIT APPLICATION WITH TCAQ FIRST AS WELL? UM, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT, THAT THAT'S A, AN ISSUE, WELL, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA CHANGE OUR APPROACH OR OUR METHODOLOGY.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR US TO SPEED UP OUR PROCESS, UM, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

UM, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION, THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE ALL THEIR PS AND QS TOGETHER.

YES, SIR.

DETAILED AND EVERYTHING.

RIGHT.

THEY, THEY JUST CAN'T FILL SOMETHING OUT AND TURN IT IN LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE WHAT TCQ WILL DO IS SAY, WELL, HOPEFULLY ANYWAY, SAY THIS, THIS IS INCOMPLETE, AND SO IT DOESN'T QUALIFY AS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS TO FORMALLY FILE.

WOULD THAT BE OUR FIRST NOTIFICATION OF IT WHEN WE GET FROM TCEQ? UH, PROBABLY.

THEY PROBABLY WON'T HAVE IT FROM US UNTIL THEN.

YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T, THAT'S WHY THE RACE IS ON, I SUPPOSE.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE FORMALLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF PUBLIC NOTIFICATION UNTIL THEY OFFICIALLY FILE THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I, I CAN CHECK ON TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE CASE.

ANYWAY, WE NEED TO PROCEED AS FAST AS WE CAN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND CAN, UH, PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.

AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST, UH, REALLY CONT CONTINUE OUR WORK ALONG THOSE LINES AND AS SOON AS WE CAN, UH, MOVE TO THAT NEXT STEP, WE'LL SET COORDINATE WITH, WITH A G AND, UM, BEFORE ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER IN THE MEANTIME, YOU'LL JUST LET US KNOW IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MONTHS WHEN THE WORKSHOPS COME, WHEN YOU GET YOUR STUFF SURE.

UH, COMPLETED.

WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE ALL OF OUR ANALYSIS TO YOU ALL AHEAD OF TIME.

UH, WE CAN MAIL IT, UH, WHICH Y'ALL'S PREFERENCE THERE AS FAR AS PROVIDED, UH, TO ONE PERSON AND HAVE THAT DISTRIBUTED, OR TO SEND THAT DIRECTLY TO EACH, SEND IT TO THE COUNTY JUDGE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

OKAY.

MATTER.

SEND IT TO ME AND WE'LL GET IT TO THEM.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL PLAN TO DO THAT.

AND AGAIN, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS, IF WE WANNA MAKE THIS AS, AS DETAILED AND SPECIFIC AS WE CAN.

UM, AND Y'ALL'S INPUT IS GONNA BE GREATLY, UH, GREAT VALUE IN THAT PROCESS.

YEAH.

MARILYN, WHEN YOU ON THOSE MAPS, YOU CAN BRING 'EM BY OUR OFFICE AND WE CAN GET 'EM TO THE COMMISSIONERS OR YOU CAN JUST, IF YOU WANNA GO BY AND SAY HI TO EACH OTHER AND JUST DELIVER THEM YOURSELF.

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, I'LL TRY TO GET THIS OUT.

SO WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL, WHEN Y'ALL GET THOSE MATTERS, JUST REMEMBER, JUST MARK DOWN WHERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS ARE, FUTURE HEADLINES THAT YOU KNOW OF.

IF Y'ALL COULD, JUST AS YOU DO THAT, IF YOU MARK UP A CERTAIN AREA JUST RIGHT OFF TO THE SIDE, WHAT KIND OF, IF IT'S GONNA BE SAY, DEVELOPMENT, IT'S GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, JUST SO WE CAN GET AS MUCH, UH, DETAIL AS FAR AS WHY THAT AREA IS BEING ENCIRCLED OR, OR, UH, SHADED OR WHATEVER FARM OR WHATEVER.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE A READ.

GONNA PRESENT THE, UH, CHILDREN'S SHELTER.

MORNING JUDGE.

MORNING, MORNING READING.

THANK YOU, MARILYN.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

TALK TO YOU BUDDY.

AND WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, FROM THE INFORMATION I PROVIDED, WE'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY, UH, OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

UH, WE ARE SEEING SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE FURTHER OUT COUNTIES, UH, RAINS CAMP UP TO THE PANHANDLE AND, AND WEST.

UH, WE'RE SEEING A FEW MORE CALLS FROM THEM OVER ABOUT PAST THREE MONTHS.

THEY HAVE CLOSED FOUR OF THE LARGER RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTERS, UH, WHICH ARE THE, UH, THEY ARE SECURE FACILITIES FOR THE, FOR THE MORE DISTURBED, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE, USUALLY OLDER TEENAGERS.

UM, IT'S ABOUT PROBABLY 180 BEDS.

UH, AND, AND THAT IS STATEWIDE.

THAT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT VERY MANY IN OUR REGION.

UH, BUT BEFORE THAT CLOSED, WERE 50 TO 80, 80 BEDS EACH.

UH, SO THERE IS A DRASTIC PRODUCTION OF THE, UH, OF PLACEMENTS FOR THE MORE DIFFICULT CHILDREN.

AND THERE AGAIN, IS THAT CAUSE OF CUT BACK OF STATE FOOD? UH, YES, SIR.

UH, THERE WAS ONE, UH, THAT I HEARD OF IN SAN ANTONIO

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THAT WERE ACTUALLY CLOSED FOR, UH, DEFICIENCIES AND SPANS.

UH, THEY HAD A CHILD DEATH FACILITY.

AND, UH, BUT THE OTHER THREE THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE, I HEARD THAT IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST FINANCIAL.

THEY JUST, IT JUST COULDN'T, COULDN'T PACK IT ANY LONGER.

UH, SO THAT COURSE WITHOUT THE LOCAL SUPPORT YES, SIR.

Y'ALL WOULD'VE PROBLEMS. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TIMES THE PAST YEAR THAT, THAT WE HAD, WE HAD VERY SCARY PLACES IN OUR, IN OUR BUDGET.

UH, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DID GRAND TIME FOR THE SPIRIT CHALLENGE, IT WAS 121,000.

UH, SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THAT WILL TIDE US OVER, UH, AT LEAST UNTIL THE NEW BUDGET SESSION COMES IN.

UH, THERE'S SOME REFERENCE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY, UH, SUBMITTED, UH, INCREASES, UH, FROM THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM FOR THE, FOR THE CARETAKING SIDE, UH, FOR NEXT BUDGET.

UH, AND I KNOW, I KNOW WE, WE NEED IT, AND I'M SURE ACROSS THE STATE WE SEE IT VERY BADLY.

UH, THE, UH, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE, WE WERE, WE RAN FULL, WE WERE 15, 16 KIDS THE ENTIRE, UH, THE ICE STORM IN JANUARY.

WE HAD A FAMILY GROUP OF SEVEN KIDS MOVE THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE ICE HIT.

AND, UH, CPS OFFICES CLOSED IN FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

WE, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM ANYBODY, BUT THE KIDS DROPPED 'EM OFF.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, OF COURSE NOBODY WANTED TO GET OUTTA THE ICE, AND I DIDN'T EITHER.

UH, BUT THAT KIND OF SKEWED OUR, OUR JANUARY TO, WE WAS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

IS THAT THE GROUP FROM TARRANT COUNTY? I KNOW YOU HAVE SEVEN FROM TARRANT COUNTY.

WE HAVE IT VERY WELL.

COULD HAVE BEEN.

UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL LARGE GROUPS, UH, OVER THE MONTHS, WHICH OF COURSE IS, IS, IS WHERE OUR SPECIALTY KIND OF LIES NOW.

UH, BUT THAT VERY WELL COULD HAVE BEEN THE, THE CHERRY COUNTY.

I, THEY CHANGE FREQUENTLY, AND I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH AND WITH OUR, WITH OUR NUMBERS, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING A DECREASE IN OUR, IN OUR LENGTH OF STAY UP UNTIL PROBABLY MID-YEAR.

LAST YEAR OUR AVERAGE STAY WAS ABOUT 75 DAYS.

UH, AND WITH THE, THE SCRAMBLING OF THE, THE NEW CENTRALIZED PLACEMENT UNIT, THAT IS A UNIT, UH, DEVELOPED WITHIN T-D-P-R-S, UH, THAT FOCUSES SOLELY ON LOOKING FOR PERMANENT PLACEMENTS.

SO THE EASIER TO PLACE KIDS, UH, THEY'RE MOVING VERY QUICKLY.

SOMETIMES 48, 72 HOURS.

UH, THE MORE DIFFICULT KIDS ARE STAYING LONGER.

UH, BUT THE AVERAGE, OF COURSE, THE QUICK KIDS MOVE OUR AVERAGE DOWN, UH, QUITE A BIT.

SO AVERAGE STAY FOR LAST YEAR WAS ABOUT 45 DAYS.

UM, HE WENT TO SPIRIT CHALLENGE, UH, I WENT TO IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT JUST KIND OF SPARKED A FLAME.

AND WE HAD JUST, WE HAD JUST BEEN BOMBARDED WITH PEOPLE, UH, INTERESTED IN WANTING TO HELP, HELP AND MAKING DONATIONS.

AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN A BLESSING.

UH, WE WERE VERY LUCKY OVER, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MEDICAL EMERGENCIES, UH, BUT WITH THE WEATHER FLIP-FLOPPING, WE HAD DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS ALMOST EIGHT.

UH, AND SOMETIMES WE JUST, LIKE HOME HOUSE.

WE HAD 10 KIDS IN THE OFFICE ON MONDAY DAY.

SO JUST VERY TIME CONSUMING.

UH, WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME STAFF TURNOVER.

UH, WE ARE ABOUT FOUR PEOPLE SHORTLY NOW, AND WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT NOTICES OUT TO, TO DO SOME HIRING, UH, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

SCHOOL MOVING, UH, PREGNANCY, INJURY, FAMILY, UH, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST RUNNING KIND OF SHORT.

UH, AND I WAS, I WAS REALLY EXCITED IN, UH, IN NOVEMBER THEY FORMED A SHELTER TASK FORCE WITH THE TEXAS NETWORK OF NETWORK OF YOUTH SERVICES, WHICH IS A, UH, SUPPORT AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION IN AUSTIN, UH, FOR ALL THE, UH, SUB CARE FACILITIES, ALL FOSTER CARE FACILITIES.

AND THEY, THEY FORM A TASK FORCE FOR THE EMERGENCY SHELTERS, UH, TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES, POLICY PROCEDURES, UH, AS WELL AS, AS DOING SOME, DOING SOME, UH, FINANCIAL STUDIES TO, UH, TO SUBMIT TO A LEGISLATION NEXT MEETING.

UH, SO I'M, I'M REAL EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THAT.

UH, AND WITH AND WITH THAT, UH, T-D-F-P-S HAS, HAS ISSUED

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A, A NEW MINIMUM STANDARDS MANUAL, WHICH IS, UH, STATE FEDERAL GUIDELINES FOR FACILITY OPERATIONS.

UH, AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, I HAD TO DO A POLICY AND PROCEDURES MANUAL TO COINCIDE WITH HOW OUR FACILITY WILL MEET THOSE GUIDELINES.

UH, THOSE STANDARDS HAVE NOT BEEN RENEWED IN 15 YEARS.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE DONE A COMPLETE TURNOVER.

UH, I PERSONALLY AM NOT REAL HAPPY WITH IT, BUT THEY DON'T ASK MY OPINION.

UH, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE INTRICATE AND DETAILED, UH, THAN THE PREVIOUS MANUAL WAS.

UH, SO IT'S TAKEN ME LOTS OF TIME AND ENERGY TO, TO CORRELATE OUR, OUR FACILITY PROCEDURES, UH, WITH THE MANDATES.

UH, BUT HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE THAT READY BEFORE, BEFORE BEING ENHANCEMENT.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE STATUS QUO, WORKING HARD, UH, 14 KIDS RIGHT NOW.

UH, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF, UH, MORE SPECIAL NEEDS CALLS AND OF COURSE, THE OLDER TEENS WITH EITHER MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR, OR PRETTY SEVERE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES.

UH, SO WE'RE HAVING TO, TO SCREEN A LITTLE DEEPER, UH, TO MATCH.

OF COURSE, OF COURSE, WE STILL HAVE THE BABIES AND WE HAVE THE YOUNGER KIDS TOO.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME SCREENING AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE KIDS, WE ADMIT, UH, DON'T POST A THREAT TO OUR .

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UH, MAYORS JOB.

APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL DO.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT VERY MUCH.

WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT WE HAVE MS. JEAN TO PRESENT THE COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION REPORT FOR TWO, YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME, I'VE GOT HOURLY FILLED THIS WHEN EVERYTHING, THIS IS OUR, UH, YEAR END REPORT FOR 2006.

THIS IS THE SAME REPORT THAT WE'VE SENT TO THE STATE.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET ANOTHER DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD.

FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS, WE, THE COLMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED A DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD FROM THE STATE FOR THEIR WORK IN HOPEFULLY 2006 WILL PROVE ALSO IT WAS A PRODUCTIVE AND BUSY BUSY YEAR FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION, KCHC, WHICH I'LL REFER TO THE COMMISSION AS HELD THEIR MEETINGS BIMONTHLY AS SPECIFIED IN THEIR BYLAWS.

THEIR MEETINGS WERE HELD AT THEIR OFFICE MEETING ROOM AT 2 0 5 SOUTH JACKSON IN NOVEMBER, 2006.

KCHC OFFICES WERE MOVED BY THE COUNTY, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER COUNTY OFFICES, THE NEW QUARTERS IN THE RENOVATED OLD JAIL OR COURTHOUSE, SOUTH CAMPUS.

NOW OUR COMMISSION IS DIVIDED INTO FOUR DIFFERENT COMMITTEES TO DO OUR WORK.

AND THE FIRST COMMITTEE, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.

WELL, YASMA HOLLAND, OUR LIBRARY DOWN AT THE, UH, LIBRARY IS IN CHARGE OF THAT.

AND WE SPENT MOST OF 2006 PREPARING FOR THE VERY SUCCESSFUL KAMAN COUNTY ARCHEOLOGY LIVING HISTORY FAIR THAT KCHC HELD ON OUR COUNTY POOR FARM, SEPTEMBER 30TH, APPROXIMATELY 800 PERSONS WERE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THE, UH, COLLECTIVE EVENTS.

TWO THC OR TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

ARCHEOLOGY STEWARDS WERE ON HAND THAT MORNING FOR ARTIFACT EVALUATIONS.

THE ARCHEOLOGY EXHIBIT WAS EXCELLENT AND OF GREAT INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC THAT EVENING.

THERE WERE 300 VISITORS THAT ATTENDED THE CIVIL WAR GHOST WALL.

2K CHC MEMBERS WERE ALSO ACTORS IN THAT GHOST WALL.

THE CHAIRMAN S FLAT PORTRAYED AN EARLY KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENT, ELIZA JANE STEVENSON LOVE, WHO SOLD THE POOR FARMLAND TO THE COUNTY IN 1885.

AND KAUFMAN LIBRARIAN YASMA HOLLAND PORTRAYED A SLAVE WITH HER BABY, KCHC, ALONG WITH FRIENDS OF KCHC FED THE NINETIES CIVIL WAR REENACTORS, THEIR SATURDAY EVENING MEAL.

AND THIS WAS COORDINATED BY JAMIE LAYLE.

MS. HOLLAND WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SEEING THAT EACH LIBRARY AND MUSEUM IN THE COUNTY

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HAD TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION MATERIALS FOR DISPLAY.

DURING ARCHEOLOGY MONTH, OCTOBER'S ARCHEOLOGY MONTH EACH YEAR, THE TER PUBLIC LIBRARY HAD AN EXHIBIT SPONSORED BY KCHC AND MATERIAL HERITAGE SOCIETY TOGETHER.

THE KAUFMAN LIBRARY ALSO HAD AN EXCELLENT EXHIBIT.

KCHC SECRETARY CHARLENE ORR, WHO IS ALSO DIRECTOR OF HISTORIC MESQUITE, INC.

REPRESENTS KCHC IN ALL THE REGIONAL MEETINGS THAT THE STATE HAS, SUCH AS THE TEXAS HERITAGE LAKE TRAIL AND THE OTHER PRESERVATION ORGANIZATIONS.

AND OF COURSE, NOW PORTION OF THE CITY OF ME SPEED IS NOW IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? AND NEXT COMMITTEE, A HISTORICAL APPRECIATION AND CHAIRMAN IS, UH, JAMIE ELL.

THE KCHC PUBLISHED FOUR NEWSLETTERS IN 2006.

THESE ARE CALLED YESTERDAY'S NEWS.

500 NEWSLETTERS ARE PRINTED.

OVER 300 COPIES ARE MAILED TO COUNTY OFFICIALS, MEMBERS OF THE THREE PRESERVATION ORGANIZATIONS IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

OTHER COPIES ARE AT THE TERRELL HERITAGE MUSEUM, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND VISTA BUREAUS FOR THE PUBLIC.

KCHC CHAIRMAN, JEAN ANN ABEL FLAT CONTRIBUTED TO HISTORY COLUMN FOR THE PUBLICATION.

A HISTORICAL REENACTMENT OF EMILY TERRELL, WIFE OF THE FOUNDER OF TERRELL FOR THE POETRY CHRISTIAN SCHOOL WAS DONE BY KCHC CHAIRMAN ABEL FLAT.

UH, SHE ALSO WORKED WITH THE KAMAN COUNTY OF CHAMBER OF KAUFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY PORTRAYING AN EARLY KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENT ON A PROMOTIONAL FILM.

KCHC WEBSITE WAS UPDATED AND THE NEWSLETTER WAS PUT ONLINE.

UH, HISTORY APPRECIATION CHAIR LABEL WAS VERY ABLE COORDINATED THE ADVERTISEMENT AND MEDIA FOR THE ARCHEOLOGY AND LIVING HISTORY.

FAIR FRIENDS OF KCHC AND THE CITY OF KAUFMAN FROM THEIR TOURISM FUNDS, PROVIDED THE FUNDING FOR A LARGE BILLBOARD ON HIGHWAY 1 75 AT SEAVILLE ROAD ADVERTISING.

THE EVENT THIS BILLBOARD COULD BE VIEWED THE ENTIRE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER BY THOSE TRAVELING FROM EAST TEXAS INTO DALLAS VIA STATE HIGHWAY 1 75.

THE KAUFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PROVIDED COVERAGE OF THE EVENT ON THEIR WEBSITE.

THE POOR FARM COMMITTEE CHAIR IS RALPH DAVIS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, RALPH, THE COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT.

A NEW METAL ROOF WAS PUT ON, UH, OF THE BUILDING THAT HOUSES THE MURAL PAINTED BY A FARMER.

JAIL INMATE OTHER STOP GAP LIMITED IMPROVEMENTS WERE DONE.

VANDALS HAD TORN DOWN OUR STEPHEN F. AUSTIN TREE SAPLING, BUT CHAIRMAN DAVIS WAS ABLE TO SAVE IT IN HIS NOW FLOURISHING UNDER HIS GUIDANCE AND HELP FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONER JIM DI.

SEVERAL BUILDINGS WERE DEMOLISHED THAT COULD NOT BE SAVED.

THEY WERE TOO DANGEROUS TO LEAVE THERE FOR THE LIVING HISTORY EVENT.

THE GROUNDS WERE CLEANED UP IN INTERESTING CONDITION FOR OUR FAIR AND LIVING HISTORY EVENT.

OUR MARKER RESEARCH COMMITTEE IS CHAIRMAN DR.

HORACE FLAT AND ONE APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC CEMETERY DESIGNATION FOR KAISER CEMETERY, WHICH WE HADN'T HAD THE DEDICATION YET, WAS APPLIED FOR AND APPROVED.

UH, THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ALSO WORKED WITH THOSE CONCERNED ABOUT DESECRATION OF THE NOBLE CEMETERY IN CAMP.

UH, SUPPORT WAS LENT TO THOSE WORKING TO ERECT THE TEACHER'S MEMORIAL IN TERRELL, WHERE A HISTORICAL MARKER FOR SMN MAR IS A PROMINENT EDUCATOR OF TEXAS WILL ALSO BE AT THAT SITE.

AND THAT, UH, DEDICATION SHOULD BE COMING UP SHORTLY.

A COMPREHENSIVE LISTING OF KAUFMAN COUNTY CEMETERIES, ALONG WITH DIRECTIONS TO THE CEMETERY AND COMMENTS WAS SENT TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION CEMETERY COORDINATOR, COORDINATOR JAR HIGH, ALTHOUGH THIS WOULD NORMALLY BE THE WORK OF OUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

MARKER RESEARCH SHERIFF, UH, FLAT, ALONG WITH KCHC EMERITUS MEMBER LINDA HARWELL ARE TRANSCRIBING THE EARLY TARRELL CITY COUNCIL MINUTES TO COMPUTER DISC IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO PUT THOSE RECORDS ON THEIR WORK WORK WEBSITE.

UH, SOME OF OUR COMMITTEES, OF COURSE, WORK ON OVERLAP.

CHAIRMAN ABEL'S FLAT CONTINUED TO INTERFACE WITH THE THC COURTHOUSE PROGRAM COORDINATOR SUSAN GAME IN REGARD TO ADDITIONS TO THE KAMAN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, AND TO DISCUSS WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REMODELING CHANGES TO THE 1956 COURTHOUSE AS MANDATED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT CHAIRMAN ABEL FLAT ISSUED LETTERS TO NUMEROUS DEVELOPERS IN RESPONSE TO THEIR REQUEST IF THERE WERE HISTORICAL SITES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THEIR PROPOSED PROJECTS.

SO FAR, THERE ARE NO KNOWN HISTORICAL SITES AT THIS TIME ON ANY OF THOSE PROPOSED SITES.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE INSTRUCTED IN THE LETTER TO STOP IMMEDIATELY IF THEY COME ACROSS ANY

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ARCHEOLOGICAL ARTIFACT OR GRAVE SITE, AND NOTIFY EITHER KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION OR THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

CHAIRMAN ABEL FLAT ALSO ATTENDED MEETINGS HELD BY TDOT IN REFERENCE TO THE HIGHWAY 34 PROJECT.

SHE ALSO INTERFACED WITH HER HISTORIAN FLAT, EXCUSE ME, ARCHEOLOGIST ON SEVERAL SIDES.

SHE ALSO REPRESENTED KCHC AT PUBLIC MEETING OF TDOT FOR THE TRANSEX CORRIDOR.

CHAIRMAN ABEL FLAT ALSO CONTINUES TO ANSWER A MULTITUDE OF QUERIES THAT COME TO KCHC ON BOTH GENEALOGY AND EARLY KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORY.

KCHC INTERFACES WITH THE PRESERVATION HERITAGE SOCIETIES IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, THE TERRELL HERITAGE SOCIETY, THE FOREIGN PRESERVATION LEAD, AND THE KAUFMAN HERITAGE SOCIETY ATTEND KCHC MEETINGS AS EX-OFFICIAL MEMBERS, BUT OF COURSE CANNOT VOTE.

THIS KEEPS EVERYONE INFORMED ON PRESERVATION EFFORTS, EVENTS PROBLEMS, ET CETERA IN THE COUNTY.

3,147 VOLUNTEER HOURS.

AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY US? WE'RE CLOCKED BY 4K CHC MEMBERS.

90 CIVIL WAR REENACTORS, WHO WERE NOT MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION DONATED APPROXIMATELY 1,560 HOURS TO THE KCHC LIVING HISTORY EVENT, SUCH AS PLANNING, SET UP, TEAR DOWN PERFORMANCES, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT LOAN TRUSTEE FOR NUMEROUS HOURS OF CLEANING.

SO THAT WE THEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE ARE NONE, THANK YOU.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT RECORD MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, JANINE.

MM-HMM .

NEXT WE HAVE HAL JONES WHO'S GONNA PRESENT US WITH THE, UH, WATERS REPORT FOR JANUARY.

GETS THICKER AND THICKER.

SEE ONCE THAT WE JUST HAD THIS MONTH, THEN WE WENT THIS MUCH.

NOW WE GOT BOTH OF THEM MORE.

ALRIGHT, WELL THIS WILL BE ON MY WORK TABLE THIS WEEK.

Y'ALL COME BY AND LOOK AT IT.

UH, MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.

MOTION MADE.

COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NEXT WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER, UH, APPRO PRECINCT FOR TO PUBLIC.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

UH, COMMISSIONER LER APPRO ME ON SELLING FOUR VEHICLES AND I WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S APPROVAL.

WHAT I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE A A WHAT? THE REQUEST IS NOT EXACTLY LIKE I ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT REALLY ISN'T GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY HAD APPROVAL.

I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT I HAVE TWO HANDLING DUMP TRUCKS, THAT I'M GONNA SELL BOTH KWS 89 MODELS.

UM, AND I HAVE A TWO AND A HALF TON FLATBED AND I'M GONNA TAKE TO THE AUCTION.

NOBODY WANTS IT SOUND LIKE.

GOOD BILL .

UH, BUT I JUST, I DIDN'T WANT TO, I COULDN'T CALL YOU INDIVIDUALLY, SO I HAD JACK PUT ON THE AGENDA.

ALRIGHT, SO BEN, PUT THIS WAY.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SELLING OF THESE TRUCKS UNLESS SOMEBODY AND THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO PURCHASE ONE OF THEM.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ION, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

UH, NEXT JACK, STILL UP TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER OPENING A AWARD BID FOR SEVEN DASH OH SEVEN WATER TRUCK AND DISTRIBUTION TRUCK FOR PRECINCT THREE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY BIDS? YES.

WE HAVE ONE BID, ONE BID.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, OPEN THAT BID.

KENNETH AND IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? ALL FAVOR A MOTION.

CARRIE, YOU CAN OPEN.

THE BILL IS FROM TERRY CROW, UH, KAUFMAN.

AND ON THE, UH, WATER TRUCK, UH, HE IS BIDDING, UH, 21,000.

AND ON THE TRUCK, UH, 75,000, AND I BELIEVE THESE NUMBERS ARE, UH, IN BUDGET FOR PRECINCT.

UH, THREE.

THAT'S WHAT EXPECTED I WOULD MAKE IT RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT AWARD MOTION PAID BY, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWING.

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ALL IN RIS AYE.

MOTION CARRIES TO AWARD THAT BID FOR TERRY CROW FOR THOSE TWO, UH, VEHICLES.

ALL IN RIS AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT, UH, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER PURCHASING TWO DUMP TRUCKS FOR PRECINCT TWO.

AND THESE ARE TWO DUMP TRUCKS THAT WOULD REPLACE, UH, TWO THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THAT, UH, PROGRAM.

THAT 14 MONTH PROGRAM, UH, THE TOTAL IS 87,000 2 49 EACH FOR EACH TRUCK.

IS THAT THE PURCHASE ONES? 87 9 87 2 49 EACH 2 49.

RIGHT.

AND JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE TWO TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE HAD THE LAST 14 MONTHS, UH, MAC HAS OFFERED BY THOSE BACK AT 75,500.

THAT GIVES A TOTAL COST FOR THE COUNTY FOR 14 MONTHS FOR THESE TRUCKS.

UH, 19532.03, WHICH, UH, CALCULATES 6 9 7 58 PER MONTH.

SIX NINE.

7.58 PER MONTH.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A REAL GOOD PROGRAM.

AND IS THAT 75 FOR EACH TRUCK? YES, SIR.

75 5.

ALL WE'RE LEFT WITH IS THE INTEREST, UH, FOR THE 14 MONTHS AND, AND ABOUT 6,000 SATISFAC.

YOU AGREE? YES, SIR.

JACK HAS CONVINCED ME AND HAS TODAY THAT THAT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR .

SOME ALL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK PURCHASE THOSE TWO DUMP TRUCKS.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FER.

A A MOTION CARRIED, SIR.

IS THAT, IS THAT IT, JACK? THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING ROADS REPAIRS FOR THE CITY OF COMBINE NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.

YEAH.

PATCHING ROADS IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE AS FAR AS MATERIAL.

MM-HMM.

UH, I THINK THE BID WAS 8,000 SOMETHING, BUT IT COULD GO OVER.

SO I WILL NOT EXCEED 10,000.

UH, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE EXPENDING 10,000 UP TO 10,000 TO REPAIR ROADS IN CITY OF COMMONWEALTH.

AND THEN THEY'LL REIMBURSE YOU.

THEY'LL REIMBURSE.

YES.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRY.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION FUNDS LISTED FOR NEW FILING SYSTEM FOR THE 27 COUNTY HOUSE FLORIDA PRECINCT.

TWO JP JUDGE CAGES.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

THANK HONOR.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

MORNING JUDGE, CARRY ON.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND ABOUT, UH, $9,000 $8,708 FOR A VERTICAL FILING SYSTEM.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.

IT WILL SAVE US A BUNCH OF, UH, SPACE AND IT'LL BE GOOD FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND I HAVE THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS UP COVERED WITH ALL THE FOLKS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY THAT, UH, HANDLE THOSE FUNDS.

AND ALSO WITH JACK ABOUT PURCHASING THESE.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL'S, WHERE WILL YOU PUT IT IN THE, IN THAT, UH, SAFE WHERE THE IS IT'S A POLICY.

MUCH DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.

YOU ASK THAT AGAIN.

.

SEE, I I I WAS WORKING THAT WORD.

DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.

I, MY QUESTION, DOES HE HAVE THAT MUCH DISCRETIONARY? UH, THE, THE FUNDS HE'S TALKING ABOUT ARE, ARE CALLED, UH, UH, RECORD MANAGEMENT FUND.

MM-HMM .

WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO ALL OFFICES, IS CONTROLLED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO THAT, UH, THE JUDGE HAD TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL TO GET APPROVAL TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

IT'S THERE.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S FOR.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT HIS DISCRETION.

IT'S NOT HIS DISCRETION.

IT'S YOUR DISCRETION.

IF IT MY DISCRETION.

FIND THAT ALREADY YESTERDAY.

THEY HAVE ONE QUESTION, JACK.

IS, IS THERE, ARE THESE NUMBERS IN COURT? WHAT? UH, YOU'RE APPRO? YES, SIR.

LEMME SEE WHAT WE SAY HERE.

IS THIS UH, IMPROVEMENT, REPLACE SOME, REPLACE THE FAX SYSTEM? OR IS THIS WE HAVE HAVE EM IN REGULAR FILE DRAWERS NOW.

WE'LL KEEP THOSE.

AND WE'RE OF COURSE WE'RE GETTING LARGER AND WE'RE HAVING MORE AND MORE FILES.

SO WE, WE HAVE TO STORE CERTAIN FILES.

FIVE YEARS, CERTAIN FILES, SIX YEARS.

SO THIS WILL HELP US WITH THAT.

TAKE SOME THE LOAD OFF OF RAISE, UH, STORAGE OUT THE BARN.

ALSO, I GUESS IF YOU KEEP GROWING OVER THERE, YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING OVER HERE ASKING

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FOR MORE ROOM.

SOMEHOW.

WILL, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THAT DISCRETIONARY? JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

OKAY.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

CONSIDER ACCEPTING A PRIVATE OATH NAMED LAST FRONTIER FOR COUNTY MOVEMENT IN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.

I, UH, YEAH.

IT'S IT'S GREEN COUNTY ROAD MAP, BUT IT, AND I WALKED IN THE OFFICE AND SO I DID NOT TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT THERE'S 23 HOMES ON IT AND THE BUS JUST PUSHED.

NOW, I GUESS THEY'RE BACK GOING DOWN IT, BUT THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE GOT FIVE INCH RAIN, THEY QUIT GOING DOWN AND HAD SOME THEM HAD HOMEOWNERS.

HAVE WE, HAVE WE MAINTAINED IT BEFORE? WELL, THEY SAY PREVIOUS TO ME COMING IN TO MY TAKING TO OFFICE THAT IT WAS MAINTAINED.

NO, IT WASN'T.

OKAY.

SO I AS COUNTY ROAD ON THE NEW MAP, UH, YES.

COUNTY ROAD ON THE MAP THAT I JUST RECEIVED, I DON'T THINK DO ANYTHING ANYWAY UNLESS SOMEBODY PROTESTED MY, MY ONLY IS THAT IT'S, WELL THAT'S THE WAY I TREATED WHAT THEY SAY.

YEAH, THE D REQUIRED TECHNICALLY, YEAH.

PROVISION WASN'T PRIVATE.

WE EVEN OR SOMETHING.

OR AT LEAST A DEDICATION.

DEDICATION.

THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM.

THAT WAS VICKY COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING ON IT IN THE RECORDS OVER HERE.

THAT, UH, WHAT KIND OF ROAD IS IT? WHAT? IT'S A ROCK ROAD.

IT'S A ROCK ROAD.

IT'S AS GOOD AS THE MY OTHER ROCK ROAD.

IT'S JUST THAT I QUIT ON IT THIS LONG BEFORE WE STARTED COMPLAINING.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE TAKING IT IN AS A ROCK ROAD END YOURSELF? YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I'M TAKE IT IN IS JUST LIKE IT'S, BUT I, I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF TABLE IT UNTIL WE LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE FURTHER.

WELL, I I I PREFER TABLE JUDGE.

YEAH.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO TABLE THAT.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES AND THEN I'M WILL BE TABLED AND I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT OF COURSE CHUCK WILL BE HERE MONDAY AND UH, ABOUT IT MONDAY.

AND BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER IS RIGHT THAT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME TYPE OF, UH, DEDICATION AND ACCEPTANCE BY THE COUNTY.

THEN AGAIN, RAY MAY BE RIGHT, WE'RE DOING THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MOUNT.

WHAT'S ON THE MAP, WHAT IT'S AND WHAT'S NOT ON THE WHAT IT'S NOT.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SO, UH, IT MAY NOT BE TO BE AFTER, AFTER MONDAY.

SO, INTERESTING.

VERY INTERESTING.

YEAH.

WHO THAT SAYS BE SOME INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS MONDAY.

IS THAT YOU FROM THAT? YEAH.

SO LAST WEEK, BUT WE HAVE, UH, HAS RESEARCHED UH, THE ISSUE AND WE'RE RIGHT AND I GOT A CALL FROM, I'M GOING OVER THERE AFTER COURT.

YOU GONNA SHOW ME THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT? YOU CAN FIND THAT IF YOU CAN FIND THAT POST OAK TREE THAT THEY MEASURED IT FROM BECAUSE I RESEARCHED IT AS HARD AS I COULD, YOU KNOW, AND IT SAID IT GOES FROM THIS POKE OAK TREE TO THIS BONE TREE AND IT'S 17 INCHES IN DIAMETER.

I WANNA SEE THAT.

UH, SO WE TABLED THAT.

NEXT ONE.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPRO DEPUTATION OF ERIC FRANK FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MOVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN CY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER REQUEST FROM HIM BARK TO INSTALL VERY CABLE DROP WIRE UNDER AND ACROSS RIGHT AWAY.

COUNTY ROAD ROLLING HEIGHTS.

CIRCLE IN PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.

I THOUGHT WE HAD TELEPHONE SERVICE.

THEY'RE JUST GETTING SOME OUT THERE FAR.

COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LER.

ALL IN FAVOR?

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AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE HAVE A FARMER'S ELECTRIC CO-OP THAT WANTS TO CONSTRUCT AN ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION FACILITY ALONG AND ACROSS COUNTY ROAD 2 43 IN TON COUNTY.

UH, 2 43.

IS THAT STILL IN TWO OR IS THAT OKAY? BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THOSE ROADS OVER THERE.

2 42 43 IS IN PRECINCT.

OKAY.

YOU'VE DISCUSSED THAT AND YOU'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

YES SIR.

SECOND.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES BEEN A COUPLE WEEKS.

DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? YES SIR, WE DO.

I FIGURED THAT UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT WE HAVE LINE TRANSFER TO NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COG 4,009 SEVEN REDUCTION IN MISCELLANEOUS 422ND DISTRICT COURT, INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE, 500 REDUCTION IN EXISTING JUDGE EXPENSE, ELECTION EXPENSE, INCREASED VOTING EQUIPMENT, $5,080 WITH REDUCTION IN BALANCE SUPPLIES.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE INCREASED OFFICE FURNITURE, HUNDRED DOLLARS REDUCTION IN CANINE MAINTENANCE COSTS, COMPUTER AREA INCREASED REPAIRS, 1007 17 WITH REDUCTION IN PAYMENTS TO GOVERNMENT SERVICES AUTOMATION AND ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT FOUR INCREASED CULPRITS, 2000 REDUCTION IN ROAD MATERIALS.

ADDITIONALLY IN THE SHERIFF'S, UH, FORFEITURE SEIZURE ATTEMPT INCREASE, MISCELLANEOUS COSTS 1,400.

GENTLE.

Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST? WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN FAVOR ACT.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES HORSES TODAY.

UH, NO.

I THINK THERE'S TWO OF THEM FROM MEXICO.

GET ANYTHING TODAY? I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANY.

WE HAVE A FEW ME UP.

NOT YET.

REASON FOR DIDN'T HAVE ONE.

THIS WE DIDN'T SHUT OFF.

OH, IT MIX IT UP

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SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

CAN I JUST MINUTE I GOT A FROM TEXAS ASSOCIATION ON FRIDAY THAT TALKS ABOUT, UM, GIVE YOU GUYS A OF THE HENDERSON AND ALSO KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT SOCIAL SECURITY INFORMATION IS PRIVATE AND UM, WE CAN'T LET PUBLIC THAT BASICALLY MOST OF THEM SHUT DOWN THEIR PUBLIC AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DOCUMENTATION SECURITY, YOU CAN'T BE AVAILABLE.

YOU CALL YOU IF THERE'S, I'M JUST THINKING, OKAY, EMERGENCY.

FYI, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION ON THE NRT THING, ON THE,

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IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS CLOSED.

I WAS COMING HERE.

YOU TRYING TO GO OUT IT JUST LIKE A LOVE OF SAND STORM.

I THINK IT DID.

IT WASN'T OUR COLOR.

B.

COMMON SENSE WILL B SUPPOSED.

SO WHAT DOES IT SAYING IS BASICALLY FROM WHAT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ, IT SAYS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN'T VIEW THE DOCUMENTS THAT THE CLERK HAS TO VIEW THE DOCUMENTS FIRST, REDACT ANY SOCIAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND THEN RELEASE IT.

MM-HMM .

AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'LL STAMP IT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY INFORMATION HAS BEEN REDACTED, BUT IT'LL STOP.

WE SELL DATA, UM, WE SELL BULK DATA TO THE TITLE COMPANY ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.

THEY'VE SAID, AND THE LAND ASSOCIATION HAS FILED AN INJUNCTION ON THIS, SO SEE WHERE IT GOES? YEAH, IT'LL BE HARD.

ARE YOU JERRY AND I BACK? YEAH.

TO LOOK AT, I DUNNO, RESTITUTION.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS ARE.

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I JUST TRY TO CHECK IN, MAKE SURE WHAT I'M MISSING.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S YOUR, DO YOU HAVE YOUR NEW STAMP MADE UP YET? UH, WHERE YOU CAN STAMP ON IT? UH, THIS HAS BEEN REDACTED.

WE DON'T HAVE A STAMP YET.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LABELS, WE'LL PUT THE LABELS ON THERE AND THEN IF WE DO THE CERTIFICATION, WE'LL STAMP IT OVER THE LABEL.

BASICALLY SAVE THAT.

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS HAVE BEEN REDACTED FROM THE DOCUMENT.

BUT YOU LEAVE ON THE ORIGINAL, RIGHT? THE ORIGINAL HAS TO, HAS TO.

YEAH.

AND, AND THE, OF COURSE THE CLERK'S ASSOCIATION IS GOING CRAZY WITH THIS BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION SAYS THAT YOU PRIOR TO CO YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND YOU KNOW THE CLERKS, THERE'S THAT GONE.

AND IN THE ACCOUNTING ATTORNEYS, I THINK THERE'S ONE OPINION IN THERE.

BASICALLY SAYS ANY PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.

SO BASICALLY THE PUBLIC USE STATIONS THAT HAVE IN OUR OFFICE HAVE TO HAVE THE IMAGES REMOVED AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE A COPY OF ANYTHING WILL HAVE TO REQUEST TO US TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT AND CERTIFY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO SOCIAL SECURITY INFORMATION IN THERE AND THEN WE'LL PRINT IT OUT.

AND THEN THERE'S THE REDACTION WE'LL MAKE THE REDACTION.

YOU CAN'T GO DOWN AND START LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE FILES.

WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR SPECIFIC, UH, FILES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO US, IF THERE'S A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ON THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BEFORE WE GET IT TO SECURITY NUMBERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, OUR RECORDS GO BACK TO 1850 AND I THINK THEY SAID THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION THAT STARTED IN 1936.

SO ANYTHING PRIOR TO 1936 IS OPEN, BUT AFTER THE 1936 BOARD, THEY NEED US TO CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S CERTIFICATION ON THERE.

AND IF IT IS, WE HAVE TO REMOVE IT.

AND ALL OF YOUR PROBATE APPLICATIONS, ALL YOUR APPLICATION OF PROBATE, WILL I HAVE IT ON THERE? UP UNTIL ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK, AND A LOT OF OUR, UH, OUR COURT RECORDS ALSO HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TURN IN THE WARRANT, THEY WANT SOCIAL SECURITY FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SO THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL IN THE COURT RECORDS.

AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS REACHES TO THE COURT RECORDS BECAUSE PIA DOESN'T REACH, BUT WE SELL BOTH DATA ON OUR CRIMINAL RECORDS AS WE DO ON OUR LAND RECORDS.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP DOING THAT.

I, I THINK AT LEAST ANY RECORD, YES, BUT EVEN NOW YOU'ALL, BECAUSE SOME OF THE OLD LAWYERS, SOME OF THE OLDER LAWYERS ARE STILL PUT THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS ON THE APPLICATIONS.

WELL THEY DO THAT ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY SUBMIT.

WE SAY YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED PUT SOCIAL MANDATED.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO Y'ALLS ATTENTION.

IF THEY START HEARING ABOUT THINGS, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, COUNTY'S NOT CLOSING DOWN THEIR RECORDS.

WE'RE JUST LIMITING THE VIEWING OF THE PAGES UNTIL, YOU KNOW, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYS WE DON'T GET, WE DON'T GET

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ARE YOU GUYS GETTING ALL THESE ME AND JERRY NOT GETTING WE DID I MISS WATER SHERIFF? THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S WHY STEEL SHOES, I DICTATE, I I WOULD IT UNTIL THEY SAY THAT SAYS HERE'S THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T SEE AND HERE'S THE DOCUMENTS THAT CAN SEE REDACT FOR THAT YET THE REDACTION SOFTWARE BY TRAVIS COUNTY.

NOT ALL THAT SUCCESSFUL.

WELL, I DID.

MINE WAS LIKE GOING ALMOST THEIR, WE HAVE PUT ON AGENDA TO ACCEPT REALLY? I MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO PAY THE BILLS.

ALL IN PRIVACY ACT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, SEE Y'ALL MONDAY.

SOME OF YOU'RE GOING DOWN FOR COUPLE CANDIDATE, BUT YOU'LL BE BACK BY IN TIME.

FOR THE UM, COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, MONDAY MORNING PUBLIC HEARING IS ACTUALLY PUBLIC HEARING.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SCHEDULED AT 10.

WE'LL CONVENE NINE 30 AND THEN TO THE

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ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOTION.

MOTION CARRIED.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.