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MR. SHANE GONNA OPEN US UP THIS MORNING.
PLEASE, SIR, BE MINDFUL THAT, UH, TODAY STARTS THE FIFTH YEAR OF THE IRAQI WAR.
I MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER WOULD COME TO YOU THIS MORNING THANKING YOU FOR ALL OF OUR BLESSINGS THAT WE RECEIVE DAILY.
WE NOW COME TO YOU ASKING YOU TO PUT YOUR ARM AROUND ALL OF OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY.
PLEASE BE WITH THEM, AND PLEASE BE WITH OUR PRESIDENT AND HIS ADVISORS AS THEY MAKE JUDGEMENTS REGARDING THIS WAR.
ALSO, THIS MORNING, WE COME TO YOU ASKING YOU THAT YOU BE WITH US AS WE DO THE BUSINESS OF OUR COUNTY, THAT WE DO THINGS THAT WILL BE IN YOUR SIGHT, RIGHT? AND THESE THINGS WE ASK YOUR SON'S NAME.
FLAG OF PRAYER AND TO EVERY ONE NATION OF GOD AND TO LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE INDIVISIBLE.
HAVE Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING? ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY MR. SECONDED BY TO MR. SHANE.
ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE FOR Y'ALL.
Y'ALL NOTICE THE NEW COUNTY JUDGE UP THERE AT THE TOP? YEAH.
I FORGOT THAT I RECEIVED A, A LETTER IN THIS WHOLE PAMPHLET FROM, UH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND THEY HAVE IT TO THE HONORABLE WADE, JEN COUNTY JUDGE.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
HE, UH, HERE'S THAT FOUR REPORT.
I, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GONNA BE DROPPED FROM THE AGENDA.
UH, SECOND ITEM, UH, MR. JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, OUR COUNTY TREASURER, IS GOING TO PRESENT THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR FEBRUARY MORNING.
JOHNNY, JOHNNY, I GUESS Y'ALL NOTICE IT WAS A VERY GOOD MONTH.
I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY LARGEST AMOUNT RECEIPTS CALLED THE COUNTY HISTORY FOR ONE MONTH.
I HAVE, UH, LIKE ALL THIS EXTRA, EXTRA MONEY THAT, UH, OUR JP OVER HERE IS COLLECTING ON LINES THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DONE.
JUST COMES IN AND GOES INTO, UH, I DIDN'T CHECK AT THE TALK LAST WEEK THAT WE ARE STARTING THIS YEAR, STARTING THIS MONTH.
I MEAN, PREPARING A, A TWO OR THREE PAGE REPORT FOR THE COURT ADMINISTRATION OUT COLLECTIONS AND WILL SHOW EVERYTHING THAT WAS COLLECTED, HOW MUCH IT'S ASSESSED, AND BE GOOD THING TO FOLLOW.
YOU HAVE BE AN AGENDA ITEM EACH TIME, JUDGE, OR YOU JUST PUT IT FROM MY REPORT OR WHAT QUESTION? YOU GONNA DO IT EVERY MONTH INSTEAD OF EVERY QUARTER? WELL, IT'S UP TO YOU.
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IT'S UP TO YOU.YOU REPORT IT EVERY MONTH ANYWAY, WE GOT TO, UH, YEAH.
I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM ALONG WITH, UH, OKAY.
IT'S REQUIRED OUT BY THE 20 EACH MONTH.
THAT'S JUST P WE DO EVERY YEAR.
JUDGE, WE GOT BE AND THE, UH, OH YEAH.
I, UH, I SEE IT NOW IN THE AGENDA.
THIS IS, UH, TO DESIGNATE THE JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN OUR COUNTY TREASURER AS OUR INVESTMENT OFFICER AND ADOPT THE INVESTMENT POLICY THAT, UM, GOES ALONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT CODE, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ONE LITTLE SIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
OUR MILITARY TANK AT THE PARK WILL, SAME LASTED UNDER COVID WEEKEND.
IT'S NOW A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE OUT THERE.
ARE THEY GOING TO GET PAINTED OD GREEN? YES.
AND WE TALK PULL ACROSS THERE, JUDGE.
MAY I HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION TO ACCEPT REPORT? AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION? YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T DO A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT, DID WE? WE DID THE INVESTMENT.
I DIDN'T NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT REMINDED ME, MARIA.
NOW WE NOW RICHARD MURPHY, OUR COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS THERE.
AND, UH, HE AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
AND, UH, UH, SO I JUST ASK IT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
OKAY? THE SECOND ITEM, WE WANT TO WITHDRAW ON ADVICE OF OUR ATTORNEY.
AT ANY RATE, ON THE FIRST ITEM, THIS IS SIMPLY DELEGATING TO THE ATTORNEY THE APPROVAL OF WAIVER OF PENALTIES.
IF IT MEETS THE LAW, MEETS THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
TAXPAYER WRITES A LETTER TO YOU.
I WRITE A LETTER TO THE TAXPAYER TELLING HIM TO WRITE TO YOU.
WE DON'T HAVE COUNTYWIDE, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, COUNTYWIDE.
WE HAVE MORE IN THE MAYBANK ISD OF THESE WAIVER REQUESTS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE OF THE OVERLAPPING APPRAISAL DISTRICTS AND COUNTIES DOWN THERE.
AND SO THEY CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND DID IT AT THEIR LAST MEETING.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, UH, TO KEEP THE DOCKET HERE FROM BEING CLUTTERED WITH, UH, WAIVERS THAT LEGALLY SHOULD BE DONE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON IT'S ON THERE.
DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? YES.
DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DELEGATE THAT? DELEGATE THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE? SEE, I DIDN'T THINK WE DID EITHER, BUT ACCORDING TO LINEBARGER, WE DO.
I MEAN, NOT JUST ANYBODY, NOT JUST TO ANYBODY THAT SPEAK FOR THIS YEAR.
WE COULD TRY IT FOR A YEAR OR FOR A FEW MONTHS AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
WELL, MY, MY CONCERN IS OUR DOES THE LAW ALLOW US TO DO THAT? THAT'S MY CONCERN.
JUDGE BROWN, UH, TOLD ME YOU DID.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF THE LEGAL, THAT'D BE THAT WORK.
OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO DEFER, YOU SAID
WELL, THIS PUTS MORE BURDEN ON HIM, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING HE WANTED.
WELL, THE BURDEN IS ON US TO MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR NOT.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN, THE DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO WA EACH INDIVIDUAL PENALTY AND INTEREST IS A BURDEN ON HIM.
THE ROOM WASN'T REALLY LOOKING FOR, BUT HE AGREED TO TAKE.
CAN WE GET, CAN WE, CAN YOU CALL AUSTIN TO FIND OUT? YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT.
I, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DELEGATE THAT AUTHORITY.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MESS WITH IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO THAT.
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ALRIGHT, WELL, LET ME ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE TABLE.THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY SECOND COMMISSIONER, AND ALL IN
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, A PRESENTATION OF DED PRELIMINARY FINDINGS ON 2006 IN DEFENSE SPENDING, BASED ON LETTER PROVIDED.
IF Y'ALL RECALL, UH, UH, DMED, WE HAD, UH, SANCTIONED THEM TO, UH, REVIEW THE INDIGENT DEFENSE SPENDING LAST YEAR AND, UH, LET THEM COME UP WITH A, THEY, THEY SAID THEY COULD SAVE US MONEY IF WE HAD THEIR SOFTWARE.
SO WE SANCTIONED THEM TO, UH, UH, DO A STUDY TO SEE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE SAVED LAST YEAR HAD WE HAD THEIR SOFTWARE IN PLACE.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S THE HISTORY BEHIND IT.
UH, JUDGE, UH, TRAVIS MEDLOCK FROM UM, D DMED CALL THIS MORNING AND HE'S STUCK IN A SNOW STORM
OKAY, WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
SO THEY MAINTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THAT TIME, UH,
SO WE'LL LET COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKE THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND.
UH, IS IT 10 O'CLOCK? UH, WE'RE GOOD, JUDGE.
ALL WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT ITEM THEN.
THIS IS, UH, DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER OPENING AN AWARDING BID ZERO SEVEN DASH NINE ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL
WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO OPEN THOSE BIDS AND SEGMENT BY COMMISSIONER TELLER ALL IN THURSDAY.
WE HAVE, UH, TWO BIDS THIS MORNING.
WE MAILED OUT EIGHT BIDS, UH, FOUND OUT FRIDAY, UH, LATE THAT WHILE WE WERE CALLING TO OUR MINE VENDORS THAT, UH, APPARENTLY THERE'S ANOTHER CLEANUP THAT SAME WEEK THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF UNTIL LATE FRIDAY.
UH, FIRST BED IS IN DISPOSAL FOR SITE ONE, UH, KAUFMAN.
NO BID, RIGHT? FOR, FOR THAT FIRST ITEM, SITE ONE, SITE NUMBER 2, 230 $7.
DID WE ASK FOR, I THINK YOU GAVE THEM THE OPTION WE DID LAST.
THIS IS SAME THING WE DID LAST TIME.
THEY, THEY'RE NOT SAYING WHAT, UH, THE ONE THAT'S ATTACHED TO 2005.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, IS PRICING TO COMPARE FOR THE LAST CLEANUP.
CLEAN UP THAT 2006? NO, WE DID THAT ONE YEAR AND THEN WE RE RENEWED IT THE SECOND YEAR.
IT WAS THE SAME, RIGHT? SAME PRICE.
NOW THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT WAS THE LAST POINT.
AND THEY HAVE A NOTE UP TO FIVE TONS THEN $17 PER TON.
OVER FIVE TONS THAT BEFORE, DIDN'T IT? YES.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MR. SEBASTIAN TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE CLOSER.
IS THAT MATERIAL SITE CORRECT? YES.
UH, ALL IT ESTATES ON HERE IS 30 YARD.
SITE NUMBER FIVE, NO BID SITE NUMBER 6 260
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$6.SITE NUMBER SEVEN, NO BID SITE NUMBER EIGHT, NO BID SITE NUMBER NINE $350 AND SITE NUMBER TEN THREE HUNDRED EIGHT DOLLARS.
NEXT BID IS FROM IESI SITE NUMBER 1 270 $5.
UH, SITE NUMBER THREE, NO BID SITE NUMBER FOUR AND NO BID SITE NUMBER FIVE, SITE NUMBER 6 250 $5.
SITE NUMBER 7 330 $6 NO BID FOR SITE EIGHT AND NINE SITE TEN TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY DOLLARS.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT SITE NINE? NEITHER ONE OF 'EM BID.
WHERE ARE THOSE LOCATIONS? UH, ONE'S IN THE POETRY AND THE OTHER IS IN, UH, SCURRY PLAYBACK.
MAY, MAY DOES HAVE A BID FROM DUNCAN.
WE AIN'T GOT TWO BIDS, HUH? YES, SIR.
UH, I SAID WE CALLED FRIDAY, UH, TO START THURSDAY.
CALL FRIDAY FINALLY GOT ON ONE.
AND THEY, UH, MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER CLEANUP THE SAME WEEK.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR BIDS FROM LAST YEAR.
YOU'LL HAVE TO CONSOLIDATE PEOPLE GO TO.
DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND HOW MANY, UH, UH, PICKUPS ARE AT THE TWO SITES THAT ARE, ARE NOT BID? UH, ANY IDEA AS FAR AS THE VOLUME? NO.
I'D HAVE TO BE LESS THAN NINE.
NINE AT SCURRY, NINE AT, UH, POETRY.
BUT I I I'M SURE THERE'S SURE THERE'S ABOUT 18 OR 19 OR 20.
IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE HIGHER, SOME OF THESE A LITTLE LOWER FROM THE PREVIOUS CLEANUP.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU SEND THIS TO? I SENT TO EIGHT PEOPLE.
ALL, ALL OF WHICH WERE THE, UH, SAME FOLKS THAT WE, THESE LAST YEAR BID FROM L TO ALLIED WASTE, WHICH THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE FOLKS I TALKED TO FRIDAY THAT, UH, DID NOT GIVE US ANY KIND OF HINT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER, UH, CLEANUP, UH, SENT NATURE CALLS, UH, TERRIBLE COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL OUTTA DALLAS.
WASTE MANAGEMENT OF ROCKWALL, WASTE POINT, NEVER BEEN SANITATION.
ISI AND DUNCAN WERE THE SAME VENDORS RECEIVED AND ALLIES WAS AT THE PREVI, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER.
ALLI WOULD, WELL THEY, DID THEY MERGE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE? WERE THEY SOMEBODY ELSE LAST YEAR? OR? I THINK THERE WAS A NAME SHANE, BUT IF IT WAS ALLIED LAST TIME, BUT, UH, THEY WERE A PRE INDICATE THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT ONE? THAT MARILYN ONE,
REMEMBER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH.
BUT LIKE BEFORE WHEN THEY FACT THEY WERE BIDDING ON YOURS, THEY NEVER ANSWERED THE PHONE.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO FIND, WE NEED SOMEBODY TO PICK THE SCREW.
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COMES FROM COMBINE.WE CAN DO IT ANOTHER QUICK BID ON THE REMAINING SITES IF YOU'D LIKE.
WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO GET A BID FOR THIS.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY BUSIEST PLACE.
RIGHT? I WHAT DO ABOUT POETRY? I CHECK.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL THAT BUSY.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME FROM HU COUNTY USE THAT ONE
WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL USING OFF OUR COUNTY ROADS, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WHEN THEY COME FROM HU COUNTY.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE TRY NOT TO USE IT, BUT IT'S HARD TO, YOU WANT TO, LET'S JUST DO AWAY WITH THAT.
SEE IF WE BOTH CAN IT, WE, WE WHAT DO YOU THINK RAY? I DON'T THINK WE CAN.
I THINK WE CAN DO AWAY WITH IT.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO AWAY WITH PORTRAIT AND THEN JUST DID SCURRY OUT.
SEE IF YOU COULD GET SOMETHING ELSE.
I'LL, UH, I'LL, I'LL GET SOMEBODY TO BID SCURRY.
DO YOU THINK THAT ONE LOCATION WOULD BE UNDER SURE.
THAT'D BE UNDER 25,000 FOR THAT ONE LOCATION, WOULDN'T IT? OH, THREE DAYS ABOUT, THERE'S PROBABLY EIGHT OR 10 A DAY.
SO ONE DAY IT'S GONNA BE 3 30, 500.
SO THREE DAYS? UH, YEAH, IT PROBABLY WOULD, BUT THAT'S SPLITTING THEM, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT, THAT MAKES ME NERVOUS.
I THINK DEAD WOULDN'T BE THAT DEFINITIVE.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BOTHER ME TOO.
AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A BID.
NOW, THESE OTHERS, UH, I WOULDN'T KEEP UP WITH 'EM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DOG IN THAT FIGHT.
UH, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE OTHERS? DO THOSE FIGURES LOOK FINE WITH YOU GENTLEMEN, TO WORK? I THINK LAST YEAR WE AWARDED TO BOTH COMPANIES, DIDN'T WE? WE ACTUALLY HAD THREE.
YEAH, THIS IS GONNA WORK OUT THAT WAY TOO.
YEAH, IT'S GONNA SPLIT IT UP, BUT, UH, IESI GETS ONE.
YEAH, DUNCAN GETS TWO, THREE IS UH, DUNCAN.
SIX IS, UH, I-E-S-I-I SEVEN IS IESI EIGHT IS A NO BID.
NINE IS UH, DUNCAN AND 10 IS I-E-S-I-I-S-I.
SO WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AWARD THOSE BIDS ACCORDINGLY.
YOU GET THAT AN NOW JUDGE, SINCE WE HAD ORIGINAL PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE ON THIS BID.
IS THERE ANY PROBLEM, UH, JUST PUTTING A BIT OUT NOW OR NO.
UH, THE COURT MAY HAVE DONE THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THIS LAW WAS FIRST PASSED, BUT IT WAS A WHOLE LOT EASIER AND QUICKER TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA AND, UH, TO DO IT AGAIN RATHER THAN, UH, TAKE TIME TO GO BACK AND RESEARCH ALL THE COMMISSIONER SPORTS MINUTES FOR THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.
UH, SO I PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA REQUEST OF JERRY.
UH, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CURE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING OUT IN THE COUNTRY, UH, BECAUSE THIS LAW ONLY PERTAINS TO SUBDIVISIONS.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IS, IS SOMEONE WHO JUST OWNS 10 ACRES OF LAND OR FIVE ACRES OF LAND AND IS NOT IN THE SUBDIVISION.
AND, UH, UH, THEY'RE DISCHARGING FARM.
UH, UH, OF COURSE, EVEN IF IT'S MORE THAN 10 ACRES OR IF IT'S, UH, UH, YOU'RE NOT INNOCENT.
YOU'RE HAVE TO USE REASONABLE CARE TO MAKE SURE NOBODY OR NOBODY'S ANIMAL GETS HURT.
UH, BUT THIS, UH, KIND OF SELF EXPLANATORY, DISCUSS, CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THE BAN DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS ON LOTS THAT ARE 10 ACRES OR SMALLER, AND THEY'RE LOCATED IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF COUNTY IN A SUBDIVISION THAT'S WORD STRAIGHT OUT OF THE STATUTE.
I THINK, JUDGE, WHAT THIS TRIES TO DO IS TO ADDRESS TWO SITUATIONS.
IF YOU'RE ON THAT SMALL OF AN ACREAGE, UH, SO MANY TIMES THOSE PROJECTILES ARE PROBABLY GOING OFF ONTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
IT ALSO GIVES THE SHERIFF, UH, A TOOL TO HANDLE THESE THINGS WITH, UH, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO PROVE DISTURBING THE PEACE AND ALL OF THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS.
IT'S NOT TO, UH, PROHIBIT SOMEBODY FROM SHOOTING AN ARMADILLO THAT COMES OUT IN
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THEIR BACKYARD OR SHOOTING A SNAKE OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S TO, UH, TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABUSING THAT LAW AS THEY WERE, PLUS THE SAFETY HAZARD, PLUS GIVING THE SHERIFF A TOOL TO, UH, TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.SO IT'S NOT, UH, NOT SUPPOSED TO TRY TO INFRINGE ON ANYBODY LIVING OUT IN THE COUNTRY THAT REASONABLY AND, AND, UH, SAFELY
THAT'S THE POINT OF, WAS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT TODAY? I GUESS NOT.
IT'S IN THE SUBDIVISION AND THAT'S WHERE THE POPULATION IS THE MOST DENSE.
YEAH, IF YOU COME UP AND SIGN THE, UH, SIGN IN SHEET, PLEASE, SHOULD BE A SIGN IN SHEET THERE ON THE, UH, PODIUM WHILE HE HAD IT.
I THINK IT, IT'S ALREADY AGAINST LOT FIRE PROJECT ALL ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE ANYWAY.
I KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF ACREAGE, TRESPASS BY PHONE.
COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND, UH, WILLIAM
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PROBLEMS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE MAYBE 10 ACRES IS EXCESSIVE.
IS IS THAT IS THE, MY OPINION.
I MEAN, 10 ACRES A PRETTY GOOD, GOOD SPOT OF LAND.
THAT'S JUST WHAT THE STATE LAW SAYS.
WILL YOU? SO WHAT YOU MEAN STATE LAW? IT'S, UH, STATUTE, UH, SECTION, UH, 2 35 0.02.
WE'RE JUST ADOPT, ADAPTING, ADOPTING THAT LAW.
IF, IF WE, IF WE DO IT, IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT MAKING UP THIS LAW AS WE GO.
IT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
WE EITHER HAVE TO TAKE IT FOR THE 10 OR PROBABLY NOT TAKE IT AT ALL.
IT'S GOTTA BE FOR THE 10 OR WE DON'T DO IT AT ALL.
SO IN, UH, WHEN YOU SAY SUBDIVISION, DOES THAT MEAN, DO YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS? NO, I THINK THAT'S IN, THAT'S A FLAT, FLAT SUBDIVISION.
PLANTED SUBDIVISION SOMEPLACE LIKE, UH, WINDMILL FARMS OR, UH, HEARTLAND OR, UH, SO IT'S BACK TO THE COUNTY.
I THINK IF YOU'RE JUST OUT IN THE, THE COUNTY, THAT THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T APPLY.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I SAID WHEN I, WE GOT STARTED.
IT WON'T APPLY TO SOMEONE THAT OWNS 10 ACRES OR EVEN FIVE ACRES.
IF YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE ON THE ROAD HERE AND YOU'VE GOT FIVE ACRES THERE AND GOT YOUR HOUSE SETTING ON IT, THAT LAW REALLY DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT IN A SUBDIVISION.
I DON'T THINK YOUR PLACE OUT THERE IS IN A SUBDIVISION, IS IT? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I WOULD THINK WHERE THEY PAD IN SUBDIVISIONS 10 YEARS AGO, THEY'VE BEEN FOR 40, 50 YEARS.
UM, IT COULD BE, I'VE GOT 12 AND HALF ACRES OUT THERE.
BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, WELL, I HAD A NEIGHBOR WENT OUT HIS YARD THE OTHER DAY, ZERO PISTOL.
I MEAN, I KIND OF LOOKED TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND I REALIZED HE WASN'T SHOOTING TRESPASSERS OR, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST WENT BACK MY BUSINESS.
UM, AND HE'S PROBABLY WITHIN A HUNDRED YARDS.
BUT, UH, IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME OR AFFECT ME.
OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T DEAL WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE, UH, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT SHOOT IN THEIR BACKYARD OR, BUT 10 ACRES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T WANNA GO OUT AN ACRE AND ZERO IN, UH, THAT COULD BE, BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
WE ADAPTED LIKE IT IS OR ADAPTED AT ALL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE SHERIFF IS GONNA GO OUT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COMES OUT IN THEIR BACKYARD AND SHOOTS A KARMA DILL OR SOMETHING.
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YOU WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THIS SHERIFF? I WAS NOT CONCERNED IN THE SHOOTING IN THE COUNTY THAT WE GUESS THAT YOU'RE AWARE.I THINK ALL VICTIMS, WE GET ONE MORE COMPLAINT OF THAT.
AND THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU GOT ONE OR TWO SHOTS FIRED PEOPLE IN SHOOTING ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.
NIGHT IS SITUATION WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, THIS MIGHT BE SOME WAY THAT, THAT WE COULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HELP THE, BUT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY HARD.
UNLESS WE GOT SOMEBODY I TALKED SHOOTING AT SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY, IF THEY, UNLESS THEY CAN SHOW WHERE THAT BULLET HIT OR, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF PROOF ON THAT.
SO, UH, IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE OF A PROBLEM.
AND IF WE GET MORE AND MORE POPULATION, IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE DANGEROUS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A BULLET IS GOING GO WHATEVER POINTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT POINT AND IF THEY RICO THE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND, UH, SO NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THAT BULL GONNA END UP WHEN THEY SHOOTING.
OUR CONCERN IS THEY SHOOTING, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
SOMEBODY SHOOTS THE UNDER THEIR YARD OR SOMETHING.
UH, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BE GETTING UPSET ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHERE WE HAVE, WHERE THERE'S MULTIPLE GUNSHOTS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, UH, WHICH WE HAVE IN THIS ONE INSTANCE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET OUT THERE, OF COURSE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO GO ASK THE PEOPLE NOT TO BE SHOOTING, UH, UNLESS WE COULD PROVE THAT THEY'VE HIT THAT HOUSE OR, YOU KNOW, SHOT INTO THAT PROPERTY.
UH, AND EVEN AT A LATER DATE, IF YOU FIND IT, YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.
SO, UH, THIS IS JUST A TOOL LADY THAT WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. I I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SUBDIVISION THAT'S GOT THAT MUCH ACREAGE IN IT, YOU KNOW? UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE OVER 10 ACRES, SO I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS AND, UH, BUT I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A TOOL WE CAN USE.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT TO, UH, THE INTENT IS NOT TO PRISE SOMEBODY OF THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY OR, UH, OR YOU KNOW, THEIR EXERCISING THEIR SECOND MEMBER.
BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE TO REST OF THE PUBLIC, UH, WHEN PEOPLE ARE, THANK YOU, SHERIFF.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SHOOTING VERSUS LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO GO SHOOT SOME CANS.
AND YOUR NEIGHBOR CALLS IN, AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SHOOTING IN A CONTROL CONTROL SPACE, I, UH, USED TO, I GOT 63 ACRES AND I USED TO, ON MY BIG TANK, I'VE GOT 12 FOOT DOWN AND I GOT IT PURPOSELY WHERE I COULD SHOOT INTO IT AND ZERO MY RIFLE IN WHEN THE TIME COMES.
WELL, I'VE GOT PIER OUT THERE, SO IT GOES OUT 60 FEET INTO THE, TO THE TANK.
AND I USED TO GET UP THERE, I'M GOING WITH MY 22 AND SHOOT THE SNAKE HEADS AND THE TURTLE HEADS AND EVERYTHING.
WELL THEN, LO AND BEHOLD, TWO YEARS AGO, I, I'VE GOT NEIGHBORS NOW ON ONE SIDE OF MY PLACE AND I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I HAD THIS BIG 12 FOOT DOWN THERE.
AND SO I'M SITTING UP FRONT ON THE END OF THE PIER SHOOTING AND, AND I'M USING MY 22, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN MY NEIGHBOR HOLLERED, HEY, YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THE SHOTS HAD HIT THE TANK AND RICOCHET OVER THAT 12 FOOT DOWN AND WENT OVER HIS HEAD.
SO FROM THEN ON, I STARTED USING MY FOUR 10
SO, BUT THAT'S JUST PART OF OUR, OUR, OUR THING NOW, WILLIAM, IS WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE CROWD THE KEYWORD.
KEYWORD DEMAND IS WHERE IT SAYS SUBDIVISION.
NOT THE, NOT THE 10 ACRES OR ONE ACRE.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE IN SUBDIVISION.
KIND OF GIVE UP SOME OF YOUR RIGHT.
THAT'S GONNA PUT A SHERIFF TO DECIDE IF THAT'S A SUBDIVISION OR NOT.
I LIVE ON, IF, IF I LIVED ON FIVE ACRES AND I'M SHOOTING, THAT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.
THAT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION UNLESS IT'S A DIVISION WITH FIVE ACRES ALL AROUND.
SO IT'S REALLY GONNA PUT A BURDEN ON END TO JUST DETERMINE SUBDIVISION OR NOT.
WE, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.
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THAT WE SHOULD MAKE THAT LARGER ACREAGE OR SMALLER ACREAGE OR SMALLER, MAKE IT SMALLER TO COMPLY WITH, MAKE, BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO IT? YEAH, WE DONT HAVE THAT LEGAL BESIDE THE MAN ASHWORTH PROPERTY, HIS NAME JAMES THOMPSON, HE HAS A STATE APPROVED SHOOTING LESS THAN HE'S IN A SUBDIVISION.UH, I AFFECT HIM IF HIS NEIGHBORS COMPLAINED.
HE AND HE, HE DOES LICENSING FOR, UH, HANDGUN.
WELL I, YOU KNOW, IT MAY PROVE A HARDSHIP ON SOMEBODY.
I HOPE NOT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S INTENDED FOR.
AND I DON'T, I GUESS OBVIOUSLY THE SHERIFF IS GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT AND, UH, INVESTIGATE EVERY REPORT, BUT IT'LL BE UP TO THE SHERIFF AFTER HE GETS OUT THERE TO SEE IF IT'S A INDISCRIMINATE FIRING OR, UH, YOU KNOW, UNSAFE OR WHATEVER.
SO IT GIVES THE SHERIFF A LITTLE, UH, TOOL TO USE, BUT IT ALSO PUTS MORE ADVANTAGE ON IT.
MORE, UH, MORE WORK ON THEM TOO.
THEY CERTIFY THESE, UH, GUN RANGES INSIDE CITY LIMITS.
I WOULD IMAGINE MOST CITIES HAVE ORDINANCES AGAINST DISCHARGE OF FIREARM INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
THEY HAVE TO GET SPECIAL DISCIPLINE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOWED TO DO.
THEY BROUGHT WHERE SOMEBODY HAND FACILITY.
HOW, HOW COULD THEY KEEP ON DOING THAT? JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT GRANDFATHER TO ANYBODY.
I NOT DISCHARGE FIREARM IN INCIDENT.
YOU CAN NOW, BUT YET THEY HAVE S AND WAGES AND STUFF WHEN INSIDE ALL AROUND THERE'S HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF LEGAL MECHANISM, BUT SOMEBODY COULD BUILD IT AND ALL THAT.
SO THE CITY HAD THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL THAT.
BUT THIS IS A TOOL AND JURY MAKES THAT MOTION.
ER, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.
HIS, UH, COMPLETION FOR THE, UH, OPEN MEETINGS.
UH, CAN YOU DO IT ONLINE? OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AND THE, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT SPENT A WEEKEND.
IT ALL IN FAVOR? A A MOTION CARRIES.
CONSIDER APPROV THE RENEWAL OF MEMBERSHIP WITH INDIGENT HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS.
IS VICKY HERE? YOU WANT US TO DO THAT? VICKY? YES.
THIS IS JUST A RENEWAL OR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR THEM, FOR OUR SOFTWARE.
AND YES, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU DO THAT.
SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
MOTION CARRIES ALSO, VICKY'S BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH US ON THE, UH, DMED.
UH, IF, IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH THAT DMED, UH, SOFTWARE, UH, HER OFFICE IS PLANNING ON USING IT ALSO, BUT THAT BE A DISCUSSION FOR LATER ON.
UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, JUDGE FLOYD SHUMPERT, UH, WAS THE COUNTY JUDGE WHEN, UH, KAUFMAN MOVED INTO THE NEW COURTHOUSE, UH, IN 1955.
AND HE WAS THE FIRST, UH, JUDGE OF USING THAT COURTROOM.
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S SCHUMPER WENT ON AFTER HIS COUNTY JUDGE WENT ON AND, UH, SERVED IN THE COURT OF APPEALS.AND, UH, JUDGE IS TURNING 90, I BELIEVE, ONE DAY THIS WEEK.
AND, UH, SO HIS SON GREG, HAD, UH, REQUESTED THAT WE CONSIDER, UH, DEDICATING THE COURTROOM THAT HE WAS THE FIRST JUDGE AT, UH, UH, JUST DEDICATING TO JUDGE FLOYD APER.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER DOLLER SECONDS IT ANY DISCUSSION.
IT WAS A WEEK I WENT TO THAT JUDGE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, PRETTY EMOTIONAL.
UH, A NICE, UH, A NICE UH, UH, DEDICATION TO JEFF.
SHE, UH, FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW IT, UH, JEFF, SHE, UH, LANDED IN ON NORMANDY ON THE BEACHES, UH, LOST HIS LEG.
UH, RECEIVED A SILVER STAR FOR VALOR.
FOR VALOR ON, UH, THAT LANDING.
DO WE HAVE ANY ITEM TRANSFER THIS MORNING? IN THE SHERIFF'S FUND, WE PROPOSED A LINE ON TRANSFER TO INCREASE TRAINING AND EDUCATION CONFERENCES, $2,000 INDUCTION OF MILEAGE AND LOBBYING, INCREASE INSURANCE COSTS, $300 DEDUCTION IN RETIREMENT, AND THEN THE INTENSIVE SUPERVISION PROBATION AREA.
UH, JUST TO SWITCH BETWEEN SALARY CATEGORIES, ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST, BUT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE SO MAY, SO MAY MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FELLER.
A MOTION AND CARRIED BEFORE WE GET INTO PAYING THE BILLS, UH, RAY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA TALK TO US ABOUT? OH, THANK YOU SIR.
PALM COUNTY JUNIOR, EXCUSE ME.
JUNIOR LIVE TALK SHOWS THIS WEEK, STARTING, UH, START MOVING IN NEXT THIS TOMORROW TUESDAY GOES THROUGH SATURDAY CULMINATES, UH, SATURDAY NIGHT WITH THE SALE OF THE CHAMPIONS, ALL THE PLACING ANIMALS.
I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME DOWN THERE AND, UH, GET A CHANCE TO WATCH SOME GOOD KIDS DOING SOME GOOD HARD WORK.
UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
IT'S JUST, UH, AND YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THE, THE, THE BAD THINGS THAT OUR KIDS ARE DOING.
IF YOU GET DOWN THERE AND WATCH 'EM, YOU'LL SEE SOME GOOD THINGS A KIDS ARE DOING AND I REALLY ENJOY DOING THAT.
I KNOW, BUT IN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD OFFER IN FFA.
I COME IN 38 STEAK 300, COME ON AND SEE SOME RABBITS.
SEE SOME RABBITS UP THERE AND CHICKEN.
YEAH, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY NICE TO WATCH THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WALK THEIR ANIMALS IN THE RAIN JUDGING.
THEN, UH, IT BRINGS US AROUND TO BROUGHT THAT BY THE OTHER DAY.
SUPPOSEDLY YOU CAN BACK THE WATER GO TWO AND A HALF TIMES AS FAR ROAD AND IT'S CHEAP.
SOMETHING LIKE TWO GALLON, 6,000 SMITH.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE, THE BOY'S NAME.
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DID A GOOD JOB.THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD, I MEAN THE FIRST WEEK THIS COOL WAS OVER THE WEEKEND ON PIGEONS.
I DIDN'T, THEY'RE ALL, WE'RE EXPERIMENTING WITH IT.
A TRAFFIC COUNTER EXPERIMENT WITH FRONT OF MY HOUSE VEHICLES A WEEK.
SPEED, VACATION, BUT ALSO GO WITH HER.
HOW DO YOU WANNA GO OUT THERE WITH THE SHOP? YES.
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN YOU'RE CORRECT.
JERRY, DID YOU SEE THEY GOT MILKING GOATS OUT THERE TOO? DAIRY, DAIRY GOATS AT ONE TIME.
AND UH, THEN THE COMMISSIONER COURT WOULD GET CREDIT GETTING BY COMMISSIONER.
I PUT HIM HUNDRED DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.
DOES HE NOT? MURPHY PROBABLY HIT YOU UP.
WELL, I'VE DONE IT WITH, BUT I'M DOING IT NOW WITH, UH, OVER CHAMBER.
I CAN BILL, BILL AIN'T WE? SOME OF US CAN'T AFFORD
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PUT D HE CAN GOT SNOWED IN.IT IT BRINGS UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
BUT IT'LL BE A, IT'LL BE A GOOD TOOL, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE AT THE JAIL, UH, SCREENING THESE PEOPLE.
AND UH, THEN THEY CAN HAVE RIGHT THERE ON THE COMPUTER AND, AND HE CAN GO AHEAD AND LOCK IT AND SEE, UH, HOW SOME OF THEIR, WHAT THEIR CREDIT STATUS IS IF THEY'VE GOT CREDIT AVAILABLE ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND WHEN THEY SAY, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO HIRE A LAWYER, SAY, WELL, WHY CAN'T YOU BORROW MONEY ON THIS RIGHT HERE? PUT CREDIT CARD.
WELL, DID Y'ALL GET A COPY OF THE LETTER I SENT LAST WEEK? WE'LL, SEE WHAT I TALKED ANDREW YESTERDAY.
UH, HE SAID HE, HE'S READY TO GO.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY HE WELL SHOULDN'T BE.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BACK THE WAY THAT'S GOING NEXT.
WE'VE GOT ROOM, WE GOT ROOM FOR THIS ONE FOR TWO.
WE HAVE ROOM FOR THIS ONE TOO, BUT END IT THERE.
YEAH, BUT THE REASON I SAY THAT IS ANDREW SAYS THAT'S REALLY LIKE TO DO SOME LAWYER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW HE'S DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF, RIGHT? BASICALLY, I MEAN, WHO SHOULD BE DOING THAT? A CUP COFFEE AFTER.
I'M GONNA TAKE TAKE TO THE WOOD.
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I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER RATHER THAN HAVING A FULL WEEK AND EASIER MONDAY PROBLEM OVERTIME AND PROBLEM FOUR DAYS, 10 DAYS.I WAS THAT THEY'RE TALKING, YOU DO 40 HOURS.
WELL IT'S NOT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING FULL WEEK, 40 HOURS AND COMING BACK ON A MONDAY.
YOU TELL ME I CAN'T, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
AND WE MIGHT INVESTIGATION WHEN, UH, TWO, THREE TIMES TO MAKE SURE I WAS WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER.
I HAD TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY, IT WAS ALREADY HERE ON THE, YOU GOT EVERYTHING SIGNED YET HAPPEN TWO TRIPS.
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OKAY.I THOUGHT THERE WAS, SO I THOUGHT WE DON'T NAME, DIDN'T HAVE THIS MANY NO BID.
JUST GET SOMEBODY TO SCURRY OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT THIS OUT FOR BUSINESS, YOU WOULDN'T GET ANY BID.
I COULD GO OUT HERE AND GET TWO CLOSE ON THE TWO SIDES.
THOSE BOTH SIDES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CIRCUM THE BID PROCESS.
IF THEY'VE JUST COME IN WITH A BID, I, WE AT LEAST NEED TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME WRITTEN QUOTES.
THE I GO IS IS IF WE HAD TWO SIDES CLEAR YOU LAW BREAK IT UP TO TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS.
I WAS STANDING OUT THERE AND I LOOKED AT IT.
REALLY? I THOUGHT THAT I DIDN'T, I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
I WONDER IF THERE'S GONNA BE MORE SHOW UP THAN HIM.
I DON'T BE OUT THERE TRYING TO ARREST GUY GUYS OVER THERE.
WE GOT ONE HERE THAT, BUT SEE, HE'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.
I THINK THAT IS A SUBDIVISION.
ARE SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION MUD THEMSELVES, SUBDIVISION WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT OUT THERE, JUDGE, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S SUBDIVISION.
THESE, THIS GUY BY 2 23, SHE BY CASE I MEAN CASE 40, THESE PEOPLE.
FIRST OFF, THAT'S WHAT ON BACK YOU JAIL THREE, FOUR DAYS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RALPH.
AND WE CAN TAKE THE BILLS NOW.
UH, DON'T FORGET THE LIVESTOCK SHOW AND RODEO.
I DIDN'T SEE CHICKENS IN THERE.
UH, I WOULD IMAGINE Y'ALL WANTED TO EAT SOME DESSERTS THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR SOME.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL ADJOURN MADE BY COMMISSIONER BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.