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EVERYBODY HEAR ME? ALRIGHT, WE'LL COME TO ORDER NOW.
PLEASE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROD WITH JILL UP THIS MORNING.
OH, AND, UH, THOSE PRAYERS FOR RAIN YOU HADN'T BEEN DOING TOO GOOD.
YOU BETTER GET SERIOUS ABOUT THAT.
MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WARM THE COLD PLACES IN OUR HEART.
LIGHTEN THE DARK PLACES IN OUR SOULS, FILL THE EMPTY SPOTS IN OUR LIVES, AND HEAL THE INJURED PLACES IN OUR MINDS.
AND GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS TODAY AS WE DEBATE THE, UH, BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
UH, SEND US SOME RAIN AS IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE WE WILL THIS WEEK.
LOOK FOR, TAKE CARE OF OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY.
BRING THEM HOME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME.
I PLEDGE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS.
ONE NATION OF GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY.
I PLEDGE AND INVIS BEEN COPY OF, OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
OKAY, LET ME HAVE Y'ALL A LITTLE GOODY THAT I PICKED UP LAST THURSDAY OVER THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S MEETING IN ARLINGTON.
I'VE GOT ONE FOR YOU AND JACK AND THE MEDIA.
WE DIDN'T QUITE HIT THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND LIKE I THOUGHT WE WOULD.
WE GOT 98,350 ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS AS OF JANUARY THE FIRST.
UH, OF COURSE THAT DOES NOT TAKE IN CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE PENDING OUT THERE AND ALL OF THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS THAT ARE PENDING AND ALL OF THAT.
THIS IS JUST STRICTLY WHAT THEY PREDICTED THE POPULATION WAS AS OF JANUARY THE FIRST.
UH, SO IT WON'T BE LONG IF WE'RE, WE MAY BE OVER THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND NOW, BUT ACCORDING, UH, TO THE OFFICIAL, UH, RECORD IN MARCH, WE'RE 98, 3 50.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WILL PUT THIS, RELEASE IT TO THE MEDIA, BUT I ASSUME THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT SINCE THEY HANDED OUT THIS AT OUR COG EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS, I SEND YOU A COPY OF A LETTER I HAD WRITTEN REGARDING THIS MATTER.
I GOT ONE FOR YOU AND JACK FOR THIS TOO.
I COULD JUST PASS IT AROUND THERE.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S YOUR AND JOHNNY'S, SORRY JACK.
JACK DOESN'T GET ONE OF THOSE.
IF HE WANTS ONE, WE GIVE HIM A COPY.
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FOR THE RIGHT PRICE.UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING IS MR. BEN GRINGER.
HE WANTS TO DISCUSS, UH, COUNTY ROAD AND PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR, COUNTY ROADS AND PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
MR. GRINGER, COULD YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE, SIR? CAN I GIVE? YES, SIR.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM CAN HEAR YOU ALSO.
THE COURT, UH, YOU NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME COURT.
MY POINT OF VIEW, ALONG WITH OTHER THREE 15 OTHER PETITIONS I'VE HAD GROCERY STORES, LOCAL GROCERY STORE AND HILL GROCERY STORE THERE, 1 48 NOW, MR. E RAY AND, UH, LOKI ON.
BUT ANYWAY, ALONG WITH OTHER TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED PETITION, WHICH WAS A COPY WAS SENT TO MR. DILLARD.
I GIVE IT TO HIM A HAND, UH, REPRESENT BETTY BROWN, SENATOR BOB ELL, UH, GO TO RICK PERRY AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ABOUT PROBABLY HAVE THE COUNTY ROADS AND FISHERS AND COPIES OF ALL THE PETITION PEOPLE SIGNED.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO BETTY BROWN AUSTIN AT HER OFFICE, I TALKED TO SENATOR TODD, STATEMENT OFFICE IN AUSTIN.
NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM HIM.
ONLY THING I GOT FROM RICK PERRY, THE GOVERNOR WAS A LETTER FROM, UH, DDS KEITH NAMED.
AND SHE SENT A, UH, COPY TO HONORABLE JUDGE HOLSTEIN, HONORABLE JUDGE JIM AND HONORABLE RITA, COACH
THE FACT THAT THE, THE GOVERNOR, THE STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND THE, UH, SENATOR TO THIS STATE SAYS IT IS NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY'RE THE ONES YOU NEED TO TALK TO.
AND I QUOTE MISS, UH, BETTY BROWN SAID, IF YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE, UH, COMMISSIONER, GET SOMEBODY TO RUN FOR HIS OFFICER.
SO I WASN'T INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR ANYTHING.
PROBABLY THE COUNTY LINE
THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TUNNELS ON OUR ROAD.
I DON'T MEAN THIS IS THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT.
HERE'S TREES APPROXIMATELY SOME PLACES ON OUR COUNTY ROAD, 47 68, 40 69, 66, 65, 72, 71.
UH, YOU CAN STAND ON THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT, BUT YOU HANDLE ON THE TREE.
THOSE TREES GO FROM ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE OTHER.
AND THERE'S A TUNNEL ROAD MILE AFTER MILE AFTER MILE.
THE, UH, IN MISS SCHOOL BUS BOY IN BAD SHAPE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA STOP, PULL OFF IN BETWEEN THE TREES.
IF YOU CAN FIND 'EM, PUT THE SCHOOL BUS BACK AND I'LL FIND OUT IF YOU GET A SCHOOL BUS WHEN ONE CHILD OR 50 CHILD CHILDREN ON THAT SCHOOL BUS, THAT 50 CHARGED OF CHILD END ENGAGEMENT.
SO YOU'RE PUTTING OUR CHILDREN AT RISK.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT TAX AFFAIRS AT RISK BY THESE CLEARING STUPID TREES OUT THERE.
THEY AIN'T WROTE YESTERDAY OR LAST YEAR, FIVE YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON 50, 60, 80, A HUNDRED YEARS.
SOMEBODY BEEN, I'M NOT BLAMING THIS COURT PER SE, I'M BLAMING THE ONES PRIOR.
50 YEARS AGO, THOSE ROADS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEARED OUT AND MAINTAINED.
KEEP THE TREES AWAY FROM EDGE ROAD.
I TALKED TO JAN, UH, THE TECH STOCK ENGINEER FOR THIS DISTRICT.
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SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD A STUDY IN THE A AND M.HOW MANY FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT TO THE FENCE LINE WAS AN ADEQUATE, ADEQUATE PLACE IN TIME FOR PEOPLE TO STOP AND RUN OFF THE ROAD FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY HAVE TO RUN OFF THE ROAD AND BE ABLE TO STOP WITHOUT THE TREES OR THE FENCES.
WHEN I COULD COUNT MORE THAN I COULD TAX TAXPAYER, SOMEBODY HAD TO PAY FOR IT.
THE UH, BOTTOM LINE ON ALL THAT IS WHEN YOU, YOU BUY A SCOOT, UH, A CAR OR TRUCK, YOU HAVE AN INVENTORY TAX THAT PAYS A DOLLAR GOES TO THE SCHOOL.
WHEN YOU BUY A FUEL, WHEN YOU BUY A DIESEL TRUCK, YOU GOTTA PAY AN EXTRA MONEY.
YOU BUY NOT ONE DIESEL, BUT THE VEHICLE.
YOU GOT TAX BATTERIES, YOU GOT TAX, FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL VEHICLE GROCERIES, TIRES.
ALL WE GOTTA PAY TAXES, LICENSE FOR YOUR VEHICLE, TAX FOR YOUR VEHICLE, INSPECTION STICKERS FOR YOUR VEHICLE ALL GOES TO STATE.
OR SOME STATES IN THE COUNTY, SOME DAYS IN THE CITY, MAJORITY OF THE MONEY GOES TO THE STATE.
AND I CAN'T SEE WHY THE STATE SAID IT'S A COUNTY'S PROBLEM BECAUSE IT ALL BELONGS TO THE STATE.
AND YOU GET YOUR PHONE BILL, YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR IN THERE, SAYS INFRASTRUCTURE, FEDERAL AND STATE.
AND I ASKED BETTY BROWN'S ONE OF HIS, THEIR HIS AGE, HER AGE, AND AUSTIN NAME IS DREW, HOW THEY WHO, WHAT WEARING THEM WAS IN ESTABLISHMENT, HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.
HE SAID, WELL, THEY DID THIS TO HELP OUT THE PORT AREAS, LESS AREAS OF WEST TEXAS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL, THE TAXES TO BUILD IN THE, THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR INTERNET FOR THE SCHOOL.
HOW LONG IS THIS GOING GOING TO TAKE ON? I MEAN, IS THIS GOING FOR NEXT FIVE YEARS? AT LEAST 20 YEARS? WHAT? HE SAID THIS IS GOING ON FOREVER.
SO IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN LOAN THE STATE OF TEXAS MONEY FOR THAT, THEN WHY CAN'T THE STATE OR THE COUNTY AS FAR THE MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FIXED THE ROADS? IF YOU DO THAT, WELL ADD WHAT THEY DID.
50 CENTS, 25 CENTS, 40 CENTS A DOLLAR PER MONTH IS 20 MILLION PHONE IN THIS SPREAD STATEMENT FIXED WITH LOG ROAD.
UH, AND I ASKED MR. DILLARD ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE OUT PRISON, NICE PRISON RIGHT ON HOW MUCH IT COST, HOW MUCH IT MAINTAIN, BUT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY WITH THAT OVER.
AND HE SAID HE CAN'T GET 'EM OUT THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THEY GOT PEOPLE ON PAROLE, THEY CAN'T MAKE THE PAROLE.
UH, PAROLE OFFICER CAN'T PAY THE FINE.
HIRE THEM BOATS, MINIMUM WAGE, PUT THEY NOT GOING THE HIGHWAY.
CLEAN THE ROADS UP, CLEAN THE TREES OUT, TAKE THE MONEY OUTTA THEIR PAY, PAY FOR THE FINE.
COULD BE WRONG, MAY NOT BE, MAY NOT BE RIGHT.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF THE COURT'S TIME, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ROAD, SIR.
IT'S A STANDARD QUESTION I ASK.
HOW MUCH MORE IN TAXES ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY TO HAVE MORE MONEY IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FARM? I KNEW THAT WAS GOING SIR, BECAUSE OUGHT BE I ASKED IS BECAUSE THIS LAST YEAR WE INCREASED TAXES JUST, JUST, JUST A FRACTION.
AND WE HAD PROTESTORS IN HERE.
AND SO EVERY TIME YOU, YOU CAN INCREASE IT JUST A QUARTER OF A CENT AND YOU'LL HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE PROTESTING.
THAT'S SIR, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BIG SHAVER, MY GRANDPA, GREAT-GRANDPA COMPLAINED ABOUT THE TAXES.
THEY'RE GONNA KEEP ON RAISING TAXES BECAUSE NOT BECAUSE OF THE ROADS.
IT'S THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ONLY CARS.
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INSURANCE ON THERE, THE UPKEEP, MAINTENANCE ON THEM CARS.Y'ALL SELL THE SECRETARY SALARY, THE MAINTENANCE ON ALL THESE BUILDINGS, INSURANCE ON THESE BUILDINGS THAT KEEPS GOING GETTING MONEY SOMEPLACE.
AND THE ROADS STILL AIN'T THE END FIXED.
I DON'T CARE IF IT, IF IT COST ANOTHER $30 A YEAR IN TAXES OR A HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR IN TAXES FIXED THE ROAD BECAUSE THE $200 A YEAR FIXED THE ROAD BE STRUNG UP AS A YARD ARE
WELL THAT'S JUST LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE.
NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH MR. UH, GARY WHI THE, AND I TALKED ABOUT HIM.
UH, MR UH, I THINK OF THE DEPUTY'S NAME.
WHAT IS THE DEPUTY'S NAME? ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, UH, WALTER WALTER.
WELL, THEY GOT AN AGENDA OVER THERE TO DO WHATEVER THEY THINK IS RIGHT.
THEY SAID THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO FURNISH THE CAR, THE FUEL, THE INSURANCE AND TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE TO OPERATE THIS VEHICLE TO NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH.
UH, SO WHERE'S THE DEPUTY? WE DON'T HAVE DEPUTIES RUN UP DOWN OUR STREET.
I AIN'T EVER SEEN ONE OF THEM IN OVER A YEAR TIME.
THERE'S, WHEN YOU CALL ONE, IT COULD ASK PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO WE'RE IN A LOST LITTLE WORLD OVER THERE.
IT'S NOT ON THE UH, UH, BUDGET.
I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT SINCE I LITTLE VHA.
BUT WE'RE PAYING ALL THESE TAXES FOR EVERYTHING.
BY THE WAY, THIS, UH, MR. DI AND I HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT THIS TEXAS COURT TOLD BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND 50 SOME ODD YEARS BEFORE.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ALL GONE.
I DON'T THINK YOU'D HAVE THAT MUCH CONTROVERSY OVER THE ROAD OVER THIS.
THE ROADS ARE FIXED, PROBABLY GROWLING THROUGH UNTIL OUR ROADS GET FIXED.
HE GOING HAVE CON CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS TEXAS, TEXAS TRANS TEXAS CORRIDOR WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
AND WITH THAT, I THANK THE COURT VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, SIR.
I I AGREE WITH HIM A HUNDRED PERCENT RAISING TAXES.
YOU KNOW, THE ROADS ARE SO NARROW DOWN IN THE PEEL TOWN IN THAT AREA.
OF COURSE HE DRIVES A A TRACTOR TRAILER FOR A PRIVATE VEHICLE.
YEAH, BUT, AND IT DOES CREATE A PROBLEM.
AND, AND THE ROAD IS SO NARROW, THE DITCH, THE FENCES ARE RIGHT CLOSE TO THE ROAD, JUST BARELY ENOUGH FOR A 10 FOOT OF DITCH.
UH, WE CUT THE, WE CUT THE, THE, THE TREES, THE 13 SIX AND I'M SURE HE'S AWARE OF WHAT 13 SIX IS.
UM, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS MAYBE, MAYBE DURING, MAYBE DURING, UH, BUDGET, THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD ALLOW ME ABOUT AN EXTRA 20 MILLION.
AND I COULD PROBABLY DO ALL THIS IF, IF WE COULD EXPAND THE RIGHT OF WAY, MOVE THE UTILITIES, MOVE THE WATER, MOVE THE PHONES.
BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S REALLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
AND I WANTED TO GIVE, I WANTED TO GIVE BEN A CHANCE 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKED TWO YEARS, A OVER YEARS, SIR.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE AND I APPRECIATE THE COURT'S INDULGENCE IN THIS.
REALLY THE JURY, WASN'T IT YOUR PRECINCT THAT, UH, LAST YEAR, A YEAR BEFORE LAST, YOU TRIPPED ON TREES AND THEN YOU STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD BOUGHT PROPPED OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE PICTURESQUE TREES THAT THEY DROVE THROUGH.
AND I, I ACKNOW BEEN EXACTLY, I PROBABLY GOT A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN MY PRECINCT THAT FEEL JUST LIKE YOU DO THAT, COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, AND I WISH THERE WAS, I LIKE YOUR IDEA BACK IN THE STATE OR THE FED TO CHIP IN ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT.
WE TRIM THESE TREES AND THE LADY COMES AND PARKS HER VEHICLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF WHERE WE
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HAVE TO GO.WE HAVE TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO COME OUT AND MAKE HER MOVE BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT HER.
UH, THE OTHER THING, MOST ALL OF THESE ROADS IN TEXAS WERE LAID OUT BACK IN THE FORTIES OR FIFTIES.
AND THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS THE, THE, UH, LANDOWNERS GAVE ENOUGH LAND TO WHAT THEY THOUGHT AT THAT TIME WAS ENOUGH SPACE TO BUILD A ROAD DOWN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, SOME OF 'EM COULD BE ADDRESSED MAYBE BY CUTTING DOWN THE TREES.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU WERE TALKING, WE WERE, WE WERE CUTTING THE TREES DOWN TO THE GROUND AND THERE WAS SO MUCH FUR RAISED OVER THAT I ACTUALLY KIND OF WENT BACK AND, AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S JUST TRIM THE, THE LIMBS OFF UP INSTEAD OF CUTTING THE TREES DOWN.
SO YEAH, YOU DIDN'T REPLANT THEM RIGHT,
WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT COME ACCORDING THOSE, UH, IF THE TREES REAL CLOSE TO THE ROAD AND THE LADY IS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, TAKING THE KIDS TO SCHOOL FOR SOME UNFORESEEN REASON, SHE HAS TO DODGE SOMETHING OR MISS SOMETHING, HIT A TREE AND KILL THE BABY.
AND IF SOMEBODY, UH, WAS SO, UH, WHAT YOU USE THAT PROPER WORD, THAT'S MY TREE AND NOBODY TOUCHED IT.
IF IT'S ON THE COUNTY SIDE, STATE SIDE OF THE ROAD, IT BELONGS TO THE COUNTY AND THE STATE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, GET THAT TREE OUTTA THERE.
BUT NO PROBLEM BELONGS TO THE COUNTY, BELONGS TO THE TAXPAYERS.
NOT ONLY FOR THE, I'VE SEEN GUYS WALK DOWN THE ROAD, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
WILD DOGS GOT STICKS AND GUNS IN THEIR HANDS.
SO THEY DOGS COME OUT, THEY GOTTA EITHER SHOOT 'EM AND KNOCK 'EM OFF, YOU KNOW, KNOCK 'EM OUT AWAY OR SOMETHING.
THEY'RE JUST PREPPING ALL OVER THERE.
HOPEFULLY THAT COULD BE SOLVED.
I OFTEN WONDERED IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO INSTITUTE SOME KIND OF SPECIAL TAX JUST FOR ROAD AND BRIDGES.
I'M GLAD IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE TELEPHONE COMPANY GET IT DONE.
I DON'T SEE WHY Y'ALL CAN'T GET IT DONE.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THE COUNTY CAN ONLY DO THAT, WHICH THE LEGISLATURE GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO DO.
THERE IS A BILL RIGHT NOW THERE NOT TO INCREASE DOUBLE THE, UH, SALES TAX TO GIVE THE COUNTY'S CARD OF IT, CORRECT? YEAH.
NOT SALES TAX, BUT, UH, LICENSE.
IT COULD BE, BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE ONE TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX TO GIVE THE COUNTY PART OF THAT.
IN ONE STATEMENT YOU SAID THAT THE COUNTY OWNS THAT RIGHT OF WAY, 99% OF THE COUNTY RULES IN COFFEE COUNTY ARE OWNED BY THE LANDOWNERS.
THE COUNTY HAS AN EASEMENT YES.
SO THE THE LAND ACTUALLY BELONGS TO THE LANDOWNER.
AND TO, AND TO GET SOME OF THESE LANDOWNERS TO GIVE UP SOME OF THEIR LAND TO EXPAND THESE ROADS, DIFFICULT.
BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY BEEN, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN.
AND, UH, I LIKE SOME OF YOUR IDEAS.
I WISH THEY COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
UH, BUT UM, UNTIL THE LEGISLATURE GIVES US SOME MORE AUTHORITY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS.
AND THE LEGISLATURE, UH, AS WE KNOW, IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US ANY EXTRA MONEY.
THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM US.
ANY OTHER I, MR. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING NOW.
UH, I'M, I'VE GOT A REAL PROBLEM, UH, WHERE I'M AT.
WELL, WE ALL HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT, UH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS OUR EASEMENT ON SOUTH ROAD? WELL, I COUNTY, IF YOU COULD HELP KIND OF, WELL, I READ US IN, UH, COLMAN COUNTY IN 1988, AND I WAS TOLD BY THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT FROM THE CENTER OF THE ROAD 30, BUT EITHER SIDE 60 FEET AND A LOT OF THE ROADS UP THERE FIT THAT CRITERIA AT THE TIME.
AND IT, THEY WANT TO EXTEND A ROAD FURTHER OR WIDE IT OUT.
IT CAME DOWN TO THERE, IT SAYS, WE WILL FIX THE ROAD FOR YOU.
I MEAN THE FENCE, TEAR THE FENCE DOWN AND GIVE YOU THE MATERIAL TO PUT THE FENCE BACK OR YOU COULD PUT IT BACK.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WOULD GO IN THERE AND KNOCK OUT ALL TREES, TRIM ALL OUT, PUT UP AND GIVE THE LANDOWNER THE, THE MATERIAL POST THE WIRE AND ALL THAT.
WHETHER OR THE STATE WOULD, OR THE COUNTY WOULD DO IT.
ONE OF THE TWO, THE STATE WOULD'VE A NICE FENCE.
THE COUNTY WOULD'VE HAVE A NICE FENCE.
BUT ALL LANDOWNER HAD A FENCE.
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GOT RID OF THE TREES WHEN TALKING TO, UH, THE LAWYERS IN AUSTIN.
UH, THERE IS NO DEFINED EASEMENT ON THE COUNTY ROAD.
UH, THE CLOSEST THING YOU CAN GET TO FROM A LEGAL OPINION FROM ANYBODY IS THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS SAID THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED ENOUGH ROOM AS THAT YOU NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND THEY SAID, GO OVER UNTIL YOU GET SUED.
WELL, BASICALLY WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO MAINTAIN OUR PAYMENT.
I MEAN, IN THIS NEW ROAD MAP PROJECT WE'VE BEEN DONE, HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH THOSE GUYS DOWN THERE AND IT'S, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR ROAD'S AT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT THE RIGHT TO GO IN THERE AND TEAR SOME BASE TREES UP OR, OR NOT.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAD BERU AND ONLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, ANYBODY ASK HIM OR PUT THE PRESSURE ON WHAT'S NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD.
UH, MR. GER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENT AND WE'VE GOTTA MOVE ON TO OUR ATTEND.
BUT, UH, YOU ARE IN THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE, THAT LIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DONE TO THE ROADS.
BUT YOU ARE ALSO IN THE MINORITY ON WANTING TO INCREASE TAXES TO GET THAT MONEY TO DO THAT HONOR, I DON'T MIND PAYING THE TAX IF IT WORK GETS DONE, PERIOD.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT TO BAN THE KEEPING OF WILD AND DANGEROUS ANIMALS, MR. ROUND.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT? UH, COULD YOU CHECK THAT SHEET THERE PLEASE? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S THREE OR FOUR SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE JUDGE.
UH, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF, UH, WHEN THAT SITUATION ARRIVED, AROSE OUT THERE WHERE, UH, THERE SEEMED TO BE WILD ANIMALS LOOSE OR THE, UH, THE, THE APPEARANCE OF BEING WILD ANIMALS LOOSE.
SO, AND THEN WE DID ALL THIS RESEARCH AND, UH, HAD ALL THESE PEOPLE COME IN AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED UP TO TODAY, UH, WHERE WE HAD THAT COMMISSION SET UP BY COMMISSIONER FOX.
AND, UH, SINCE WHEN MISS COMMISSIONER FOX LEFT, THAT KIND OF WENT APART.
SO THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE ANY TYPE OF, UH, SCHEDULING RESEARCH OR INSPECTIONS FROM OUR STANDPOINT, FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT.
SO I PUT, AND THEN THERE, THERE CAME FROM SOME PEOPLE, UH, MAYBE THE THEORY OF JUST BANNING EVERYTHING COMPLETELY, BANNING ALL ANIMALS COMPLETELY.
I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN, AND ELLIS, THEY HAVE BEEN IN COLLIN, UH, NOW I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN IN BAND THEN, UH, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN DALLAS.
UH, AND THAT PUTS US IN A HARD POSITION.
UH, I'M KIND OF THE OPINION OF I, AND I'VE KIND OF, I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THE GUYS HERE LIKE THEY ARE THAT WE HAVE, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY ELSE COMES IN.
IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS AROUND US IS BANNED.
I DON'T WANT ALL OF THEIR PEOPLE MOVING IN HERE AND SETTING UP SHOP.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS ON HERE TODAY TO JUST DISCUSS THIS AND HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
UH, I'LL, LET ME JUST GIVE 'EM MY LITTLE SPEECH RIGHT NOW.
THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT THIS, SOME, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE BEEN OUT AND I'VE BEEN OUT AND INSPECTED THREE OR FOUR OF THESE AND, AND THEY ALL SEEM TO BE FAIRLY GOOD, UH, AND SAFE SITUATIONS.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE GROWING SO FAST, WE'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE LESS SPACE THAT MAKES IT HARDER FOR THESE PEOPLE TO, UH, TO, UH, MAINTAIN THE, THE SAFETY OF THEIR ANIMALS.
BUT, UH, I HAVE THIS, I HAVE THIS, UH, PHILOSOPHICAL, UH, DIFFERENCE WITH JUST HAVING SOMEONE MOVE OUT THAT'S BEEN HERE 16, 17 YEARS THAT WE'VE NEVER, EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH.
UH, AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH AND MOST OF 'EM HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
SO I, EVEN IF WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BAN THAT, UH, I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I HATE TO JUST SAY, OKAY, YOU'VE BEEN HERE 16, 17 YEARS, YOU'VE NEVER CROSSED A PROBLEM, YOU'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO US.
SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT, UH, EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND HERE THAT HAS BEEN BANNED TO START MOVING IN HERE AND SETTING UP SHOPS.
SO, UH, LIKE TO SEE IS TO LEAVE THESE, UH, MR. TERRANOVA AND, AND, UH, THE REST OF THESE MARCUS AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER FELLOW, I'D LIKE TO LEAVE 'EM LIKE THEY ARE AND JUST, UH, A HAVE A SET UP OF, UH, AN INSPECTION AND REPORTING SYSTEM
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AND MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY ELSE COMES IN.SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THEORY ON THIS STUFF WASN'T THE, THE LAW.
AND MAYBE I, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS LAW IS TO KEEP PEOPLE IN PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS FROM KEEPING A LINE OF TAG IN OUR BACKYARD MORE, IT WAS MORE DIRECTED TO THEM THAN IT WAS PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTUALLY IN THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OF, OF RAISING THESE ITEMS. THAT COULD BE TRUE.
UH, IT COULD, IT IT'S, IT'S SORT OF BEEN, UH, EXPANDED TO, UH, TO, UH, TAKE IN THE PEOPLE LIKE, UH, THESE THAT, UH, MR. HALLMAN AND MR. TERRANOVA AND MR. UH, AND MR. COOK, UH, MR. COOK HAD A LITTLE SITUATION WHERE ONE OF HIS GOT LOOSE, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ANYWAY, THE ONLY SITUATION I'VE WORKED WHERE THERE WASN'T, WASN'T PROBLEM.
UH, AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF HAS PROBLEMS WITH ALL THIS, THAT AS THE POPULATION GROWS AND MORE PEOPLE COME IN AND THAT LEAVES LESS ROOM FOR, UH, OR IF AN ANIMAL DOES GET OUT, THERE'S MORE DAMAGE FOR 'EM TO DO BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY.
BUT, UH, MY THEORY IS LET 'EM GO LIKE THEY ARE.
IF THEY HAVE A, MOST ALL OF 'EM I TALK TO HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH US REGISTERING 'EM OR, UH, INSPECTING 'EM OR WHATEVER.
AND THAT PUT MORE SHERIFF LOAD ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY MAY DO IT.
I DON'T, I HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT A HUGE BIG PROBLEM.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, UH, I THINK THAT PROBABLY WAS DESIGNED, UH, INITIALLY TO ONE PERSON, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN EXPANDED NOW TO TAKE THE, TO THESE PEOPLE TOO.
SO, UH, FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP, UH, WILLIAM BOES.
WILLIAM, ARE YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ANIMAL DEAL? I THINK THAT'S LAST WEEK, JUDGE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MARKED OUT.
REMEMBER I SHOWED YOU? YEAH, WELL THE DATE'S MARKED OUT, BUT I HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY USED THE SAME.
I THINK THAT WAS, I THINK WE'RE RECYCLING THE PAPER.
WE JUST SCRATCHED THE DATE OUT DOING OUR PART.
WE SCRATCHED THE DATE BUT DIDN'T SCRATCH THE NAME.
WELL, LEMME ASK WILLIAM, WERE YOU HERE THIS MORNING? ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, MA'AM.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THIS ISSUE.
UH, I JUST WANT TO CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU SAID, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
FIRST OFF, EVEN WITH MORE PEOPLE MOVING IN, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE OUR SAFETY PRACTICES.
SO IT'S NOT HARDER TO KEEP THE ANIMALS SAFE OR TO KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE.
WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE, I HAVE SMALL CHILDREN THAT LIVE UP, YOU KNOW, IN MY HOUSE, SO NOTHING'S GONNA, NOTHING'S MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT.
AND SECONDLY, HE SAID THAT MR. COOK ESCAPED AND IT, WELL, IT ESCAPED ITS PRIMARY ENCLOSURE.
IT NEVER GOT OFF THE FACILITY.
YEAH, IT DIDN'T GET OFF HIS PROPERTY, OFF THE PROPERTY.
IT DID NOT, OH, IT DID NOT GET OFF HIS PROPERTY.
BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE AS AN EXTRA PERIMETER FENCE.
SO IT NEVER WAS A THREAT TO THE PUBLIC, ALTHOUGH THE MAN THAT WAS WORKING AND THERE WAS INJURED, THE SAFETY STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE, IT GOT OUTTA INTERIOR.
IT'S PRIMARY ENCLOSURE, BUT NOT IT, NOT IN SECONDARY.
SO THE PUBLIC WAS NEVER IN ANY DANGER AT THAT POINT.
UM, I HATE TO SEE ANY KIND OF BAN ON ANY BUSINESS OR ANYBODY, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THE COUNTY IS GROWING.
IT'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN.
AND PERSONALLY, IT'S BETTER FOR ME IF NOBODY ELSE COMES IN AND CAUSES A PROBLEM.
I JUST HATE TO SEE THAT, UH, BEING A SOLUTION.
UH, WE CAN REGISTER THE ANIMALS WITH THAT.
I KNOW THAT CREATES A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE WITH THE SHERIFF HAVING TO TAKE OUR REGISTRATIONS AND DEALING WITH ALL THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S THAT MANY OF US.
AND IF WE CAN COORDINATE SOME KIND OF INSPECTION SYSTEM WITH OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY WERE JUST OUT OF MY PLACE LAST WEEK.
AND ALL NON-COMPLIANT, NO NON-COMPLIANT INSPECTIONS WERE, WERE.
SO I THINK THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT'S BEING DONE HERE IS TODAY I'M A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN.
I'VE BOUGHT MY PROPERTY IN 1990.
I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE NINE TWO, HAD THE ANIMALS THERE SINCE 92.
THERE'S BEEN NO SERIOUS ISSUES WITH ANYBODY.
AND WITH A STROKE OF A PEN, YOU COULD TECHNICALLY MAKE ME AN ILLEGAL CITIZEN.
AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY CAN TAKE A LAW ABIDING ENTITY AND WRITE THAT OUT WHEN NOTHING'S CHANGED.
NOTHING THAT NOTHING THAT I'VE DONE HAS CHANGED.
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CAN HAVE A DODGE TRUCK ANYMORE, WHERE A DODGE TRUCK IS GONE.YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CANBAN THEM FROM BUILDING DODGE TRUCKS AND EVENTUALLY THAT'LL ALL GO AWAY.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE BITING OFF THE HEAD TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND, AND IT'S NOT, NOT GONNA DO THAT.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA FORCE US THEN TO MAKE DECISIONS WHETHER WE CAN STAY IN BUSINESS OR WHETHER WE MOVE OUR FAMILIES.
I'VE GOT CHILDREN THAT HAVE GROWN UP.
WE'VE GOT STEPDAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM SCURRY ROSTER.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE IN THIRD GRADE AND ANOTHER ONE IN KINDERGARTEN NOW.
AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR THEIR WHOLE LIVES.
AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR WHOLE FAMILY, ALL OF OUR INDUSTRY AND MOVE IT OUT OF HERE.
AND YOU ALLUDED TO ALL THE PROPER FACTS.
WE PAY OUR TAXES, WE REGISTER OUR VEHICLES HERE.
IN FACT, I WAS LISTENING TO THE ROAD THING.
I THINK I'D PAY AN EXTRA FEE TO KALIN COUNTY WITH A LICENSE.
MY SEMI'S HERE FOR ROADS AND BRIDGES, UM, ON THE OTHER ISSUE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU PUT IN.
YOU'VE COME OUT TO MY PLACE AND I, I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS BEFORE.
YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE ANIMALS BEFORE.
UH, WE TRY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BY DOING READING PROGRAMS AT THE LIBRARY.
I BROUGHT MONKEYS UP TO READ CURIOUS GEORGE.
I BROUGHT A WOLF UP DURING LITTLE RED RIDING AND YOU BROUGHT AN ELEPHANT UP FOR THE CHAMBER THING.
I BROUGHT OUR ELEPHANTS UP FOR THE CHAMBER BEFORE IN THAT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THERE AND, AND, UH, PARTICIPATED IN PARADES.
AND WE TRY TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
UM, I WORK WITH THE STORY RUSSELL YOUTH ASSOCIATION.
MY CHILDREN ARE IN THAT AND WE DO THINGS WITH 'EM, FUNDRAISERS FOR THEM AS WELL.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST A TAPE TAKE TAPE THING.
WE TRY TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, LEAVING US HERE.
UM, WE WE'RE WILLING TO REGISTER AND DEAL WITH THAT.
SO, UH, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, I APPRECIATED YOU COMING OUT AND ACTUALLY INVESTIGATING WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'VE OFFERED THAT TO THE REST OF THEM AS WELL.
LET KNOW, DOUG, IT WAS 39 DEGREES THAT DAY.
IT WAS IN THE TWENTIES, SO IT WAS PRETTY DARN COLD THAT DAY.
AND YOU ACTUALLY SPENT A COUPLE HOURS OUT THERE.
I REALLY APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT YOU CAME OUT, YOU LOOKED AROUND AND YOU SAW EVERYTHING.
I COULDN'T GET OUT THAT TIGER GOT LOOSE.
YEAH, WELL, NO, I WASN'T LET YOU LEAVE UNTIL YOU WERE CONCERNED THOUGH.
BUT YOU WEARING A HAT? I WAS, HE DIDN'T COME IN HIS INSULATED COVERALLS, WHICH I HAD ON.
BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING THIS.
I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING, UH, ALLOWING US TO REGISTER SO THAT YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
I MEAN, APPARENTLY, AND YOU ALREADY DO THIS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE'RE LICENSED AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN THIS WORKSHOP CAME UP, YOU MAILED ME A LETTER TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP.
SO YOU KNOW, I'M THERE ALREADY.
UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY AND SHERIFF KNOWS I'M OUT THERE.
I'VE OFFERED BEFORE TO, TO HAVE THE DEPUTIES COME OUT.
I WOULD SHOW YOU HOW TO HANDLE A, A TIGER.
ANYTHING YOU JUST, I MEAN, THAT JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME, RIGHT?
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DID IT.
AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, I OFFERED, IF ANYTHING HAPPENED FOR YOU TO CALL ME AND I WOULD GO OUT AND SUPERVISE THE RECAPTURE OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
GIVE YOU A HAND, YOU KNOW, IN ANY WAY I CAN.
SO WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS OVER FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND I UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER WORKLOAD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE RESOURCES FOR.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE JUST NEED TO TRY TO WORK THIS ALL OUT SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN, CAN STAY WHERE THEY ARE AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SAFETY IS AN ISSUE, BUT I THINK THAT'S BEEN PRETTY WELL ADDRESSED.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ADDRESSES US, ADDRESSES THAT AND, UH, I MEAN, BELIEVE IT, THEY GET THEIR HEADS BIT OFF IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG TOO.
SO I WANT, I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, I'D BE CERTAINLY GLAD TO ANSWER THAT.
THAT'S A WEIRD R BUT I'LL, I'LL SEE THAT.
UH, AGAIN, AS MR. CHAIR NO POINTED OUT, THANK YOU GUYS FOR SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS ACTUAL ISSUE.
UH, I'M VERY WELL KNOWN, I GUESS IN THE COMMUNITY HERE OURSELVES.
MY FACILITY'S BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN VERY PRIVILEGED AND BLESSED BY OUR GOOD LORD TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE LARGE CATS NOW DIRECT CONTACT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT I COULD POSSIBLY EVEN FATHOM.
UH, BEING THAT MAY, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR BEST, I TELL YOU, HOMES FOR OUR ANIMALS THAT WE'VE EVER SEEN, AND I SERVICE UNITED STATES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES EACH YEAR.
OUR PRIMARY BUSINESS IS THAT WE DO LOAN AND LEASE PROGRAMS TO THEME PARKS AND ACTUAL ZOOLOGICAL FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.
OVER THE LAST, OH, I'D SAY 36 MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN INSPECTED 14 TIMES BY THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE OF ANIMAL PLANT HEALTH INSPECTION SERVICES.
YOU MUST HAVE AN ACTUAL FEDERAL LICENSE, WHETHER YOU ARE DISNEY'S ANIMAL KINGDOM, SAN DIEGO WILDLIFE PARK, OR THE OLD MEAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME STANDARDS NO MATTER WHAT.
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ELEPHANT, IF YOU'RE SHOWING A MOUSE OR IF YOU'RE SHOWING A CHIMPANZEE.THOSE STANDARDS ARE IN PLACE AND YOU MUST BE INSPECTED BY THEM.
SAME THING WITH THE DALLAS AND FORT WORTH ZOO.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, 14 INSPECTIONS IN 36 MONTHS.
AND ONE OF THOSE WAS AN ACTUAL ANIMAL CARE INSPECTOR.
THE REST OF 'EM WERE TWO INDEPENDENT VETERINARY MEDICAL OFFICERS AND EVEN THE BIG CAT SPECIALIST FOR THE USDA.
AND THEY ONLY HAD ONE FOR THE UNITED STATES.
FLEW ALL THE WAY IN FROM CALIFORNIA TO LOOK AT THE FACILITY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE EMPLOYED FOUR INDEPENDENT VETERINARIANS TO INSPECT THIS INDEPENDENTLY OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
SO WE SEE QUITE A BIT OF ACTUAL CERTIFICATION AND REGISTRATION.
AND INSPECTION IS NOTHING NEW TO US BY ANY MEANS.
UH, IT, IT'S TWO'S EYES OR SETS OF EYES ARE BETTER THAN THREE OR FOUR SETS OF EYES AND 10 SETS OF EYES ARE BETTER THAN THAN ONE.
OBVIOUSLY THE ACTUAL PROHIBITED ANIMAL, OR THE DANGEROUS WILD ANIMAL ACT HAS A LONG HISTORY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED AS HOUSE BILL 1362.
AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOUR, FIVE YEARS SINCE THAT FIVE YEARS OUT OF OUR 240, 250 SOME ODD COUNTIES, 174 OF THESE COUNTIES HAVE ACTUALLY ELECTED TO EITHER BAN OR RESTRICT IN SOME ACTUAL METHOD OR WAY.
THIS IS ALSO BECAUSE THEY WERE, AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, COMMISSIONERS, YOUR HONOR, THEY WERE BUFFALOED, THEY WERE GIVEN INCORRECT, IF NOT FALSE INFORMATION.
THERE WERE OVER 10,000 TIGERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THIS LAW HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR FIVE YEARS.
THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TELLS ME AS OF TODAY, THERE'S ONLY 17 FACILITIES IN THIS STATE WITH 79 TIGERS THAT ARE REGISTERED TODAY.
AND THIS LAW HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR FIVE YEARS.
WHERE'S THE REMAINDER? 4,921 TIGERS OR THE REMAINDER 9,000 TIGERS.
USDA TELLS ME AS OF 2006 OR INVENTORY, WE HAVE 53 LICENSEES, 53 ZOOLOGICAL PARKS AND ACTUAL OPERATORS IN THIS STATE.
A TOTAL OF 631 BIG CATS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THAT'S LIONS, TIGERS, LEOPARDS.
THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S A BIG CAT OF THE PANTERA SPECIES.
THERE IS A TOTAL OF 4,935 BIG CATS IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.
OUR INFORMATION IS A LITTLE BIT CORRECT SINCE THE IN EXPLANATION OF THIS LAW AND SINCE THE PROHIBITION OF SOME OF THESE COUNTIES AROUND HERE, WE HAVE YET TO SEE ANY SINGLE INCIDENT OF A PERSON MOVING FROM OUTSIDE OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY INTO KAUFFMAN COUNTY TO BAY OR TO HIDE OR TO RUN FROM A RESTRICTED ASPECT.
MY PROPOSAL IS TO THAT IS THOSE ENORMOUS, ASTRONOMICAL NUMBERS OF CATS DON'T EXIST.
IF WE HAD FIVE OR 10,000 CATS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT'D BE ABOUT 70 TIGERS PER COUNTY.
IS OUR JOB DANGERS AS A ZOOKEEPER? ABSOLUTELY, IT IS.
IS DRIVING A RACE CAR DANGEROUS? GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR WHAT THEY DO.
THEY KNOW THAT THEIR JOB IS DANGEROUS AND THEY PUT THEIR ACTUAL LIVES AND THEIR SAFETY AND HARMFUL EACH AND EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO SO.
US AS ZOOKEEPERS AND HANDLERS, WE ARE TRAINED TO DO SO, AND OUR REGISTRATION AND OUR CERTIFICATION AND LICENSING BY THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT IN THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SHOWS THAT.
SO IF WE ELECT TO PLACE OURSELVES IN THAT HARM AND IT CAN BE HARMFUL, IT WILL HAPPEN.
DO KEEPERS GET INJURED? ABSOLUTELY.
DO OUR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS BE INJURED WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON THE ROADS? ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S A HAZARDOUS WAY OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT WE'RE INVOLVING SOCIETY.
KAUFMAN COUNTY BEING ONE OF THE TOP LEADING COUNTIES OUT OF ALL OF THESE COUNTIES.
AS, AS FAR AS IT'S GROWING AND EXPANDING BRINGS US TWOFOLD.
ONE, WE'RE GONNA BE SEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE 15 TO 20 YEARS AGO, THERE WASN'T THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE IN A KAUFMAN COUNTY.
AND THIS SHOWS THE POSITIVE ASPIRATIONS THAT THE ACTUAL COMMISSION'S COURT WANTS TO TAKE IN PROMOTING OUR WELLBEING AND OUR LIFESTYLES HERE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AS MR. TERRANOVA POINTED OUT, CUTTING OFF THE HEAD TO CURE THE HEADACHE IS NOT THE WAY OF DOING IT.
WE'RE SEEING MORE INTERESTED ENTITIES THEME PARKS OUT IN CANTON.
WE'RE SEEING THOSE NEW WATER PARKS DEVELOP.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN IDEA OF MAYBE SAYING, GREAT, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY HERE, LET'S STAY HERE.
THE REST OF 'EM, ANYBODY ELSE WHO CAN'T COME IN, WOULD THAT RESTRICT ANY OTHER BUSINESSES OR A BIG THEME PARK OR EVEN A LARGER ZOO MAYBE COMING IN, MAYBE NOT AS BIG AS FORT WORTH ZOO, THAT MAYBE TOO MUCH WISHFUL BANKING BECAUSE OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THAT.
THAT'S LIKE SAYING WALMART, YOU CAN'T COME IN HERE ANYMORE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ACE HARDWARE ANYMORE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOOD BUSINESS LIKE THAT ANYMORE IN THAT AREA THERE.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I BELIEVE HAS AN AUTHORITY TO SAY, LET'S LOOK AT IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
PETITION IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
LET'S SEE, IS THIS A BACKYARD PET THAT HAS BEEN TIED UP TO A PROPANE TANK, WHICH I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US THAT ARE LICENSED WILL TELL YOU THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE ANIMALS ARE ABOUT VERSUS AN ACTUAL FEDERALLY REGISTERED OR LICENSED NEUROLOGICAL PARKING FACILITY.
WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH IN THE PAPER OF LOOSE LIONS, LOOSE TIGERS.
THERE'S BEEN LOOSE BEARS, UH, LOOSE COUGARS.
THERE'S BIGFOOT ROAMING AROUND THE AREA.
WE'VE BEEN IN A RURAL AREA THAT'S DOWN IN AND AS
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COMICAL AS IT IS TO READ THAT AND, AND, AND WE MOVE INTO OUR RURAL AREAS BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT GETTING OUT.AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN DALLAS.
I WAS FIFTH GENERATION DALLAS.
AND I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE CAME OUTTA THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE RURALNESS OF IT, THE WILDLIFE ABILITY, THE BIRDS AND ALL THAT.
AND I DON'T WANNA SOUND TOO MUCH LIKE A BIG ECO PERSON, BUT IT REALLY IS.
BUT WHEN WE SEE THE BUNNY RABBIT RUN ACROSS THE YARD, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
WHEN WE SEE THE COYOTE RUN ACROSS THE YARD, WE START GETTING A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN WE SEE THE OCCASIONAL MOLINE, WHICH IS A NATIVE RESIDENT OF THIS STATEMENT THAT'S BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER THAN WE HAVE AS HOMOSAPIENS, WE PANIC AND FREAK OUT.
AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT MOVED INTO THAT AREA ANYWAY TO SEE THE WILDLIFE.
SO IS IT LIKE, WELL, WE CAN HAVE WILDLIFE A LITTLE BIT OR DO WE JUST TAKE IT WAY WE WANT TO HAVE IT? SO I SEE THAT IN THE PAPER ABOUT LIONS AND TIGERS AND ALL THIS, IT, YOU KNOW, WIPING OUT ANIMALS AND EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE LIKE THAT.
I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO
AND IT IS WAY DIFFERENT FROM GETTING WRAPPED UP IN A PIECE OF BARB WIRE OR HAVING THE ACTUAL WILD COUGAR ROAM THROUGH THE AREA.
SO THOSE KIND OF ACTUAL TERRORIST TYPE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAPER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THERE.
REPORTS OF BIGFOOT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT DOING ANYBODY ANY GOOD BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOTALLY INCORRECT.
LET ME POINT OUT, I THINK ALL OF YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING TO COME IN.
MOST OF US, UH, WE WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
LIKE FOR OUR INSTANCE, WE ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
HOWEVER, WE DO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT.
OUR FACILITY IS NOT CONSTRUCTED AS A TRADITIONAL ZOOLOGICAL PARK TO WHERE WHEN YOU WALK IN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, EXHIBIT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THERE.
'CAUSE MOST OF OUR ANIMALS ARE EDUCATION ANIMALS THAT DO QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THE THEME PARKS AND THE ZOOLOGICAL PARKS.
SO THEY'RE AT THEIR HOST ZOOS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
SO WHEN THEY COME OUT AND I'VE AT SCHOOLS AND CHURCH GROUPS AND EVEN AFTER OUR UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT WE'VE HAD WITH A KEEPER WHERE THEY STILL COME OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THIS CAN HAPPEN.
CORRECTIVE MEASURES ARE TAKEN.
IT'S LIKE WHEN A ROAD ACCIDENT HAPPENS, DO WE SHUT DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND QUIT BUILDING? NO, WE LOOK FOR A BETTER WAY TO MAKE AND EVOLVE AND GO THROUGH IT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THINGS LIKE OCEAN, OTHER REGULATORY AGENCIES DOING THAT.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH REGULATION.
HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE LAWS AT ALL.
REGULATION LAWS PILE ON THERE.
WE'RE ALL FOR IT A HUNDRED PERCENT WITHOUT IT DOUBT.
WE TRULY HONOR IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK.
MY PHILOSOPHY IS THE ONLY SILLY QUESTION IS THE ONE THAT'S NEVER ASKED FOLKS ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST, I I JUST HAVE ONE STATEMENT ON THIS WHOLE SUBJECT.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I THINK YOU HAD A WORKSHOP AND IT'S ABOUT THE TIME WE EITHER DO SOMETHING.
YOU GAVE ME ALL YOUR STATISTICS.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE STATISTIC THAT, THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME.
WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT PRINT? TEN TWO.
THAT'S THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN KAIN COUNTY.
UH, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT 89,000 BEFORE GROWING BADGE.
IN THE END, IT SHOWS OUR, OUR ACTUAL DEMOGRAPHIC IS TREMENDOUS.
I'M, I'M JUST, UH, IF WE CAN BAN 'EM, I WILL.
IF WE HAVE TO GRANDFATHER MY WILL.
I'M JUST NOT ALL EXCITED ABOUT, ABOUT PETER ANIMALS IN THIS COUNTY.
UH, BEING THAT WE'RE, AND I'M JUST BEING UPFRONT.
BEING THAT WE ARE SURROUNDED BY COUNTIES THAT DON'T ALLOW IT.
I THINK WE'RE, UH, WE'RE REMISS ON OUR JUDGMENT TO, UH, TO ALLOT THEM.
NO, THAT, THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS I CAN SAY.
WELL, I HOPE, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INPUT ON THAT.
BUT SOME OF THESE COUNTIES HAVE MADE SOME ACTUAL DECISIONS THAT MAY NOT BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST AS WELL TOO.
AND THEY'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS.
I, I'M CERTAINLY AWARE OF THAT.
I'VE, I'VE WORKED AND MANAGED ACTUAL A DA ACCREDITED FACILITIES IN DALLAS WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY ZOOS, AS WE ALL KNOW.
UM, AND WE KNOW SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS BEHIND IT.
THERE'S ALSO MANY EXCEPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE INSIDE SOME OF THEIR QUOTE UNQUOTE PROHIBITIONS THAT THEY SHOW FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN THERE.
THEY'VE GRANDFATHERED OR ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FEDERALLY LICENSED OR ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO STAY, OR IF THEY'RE AZA ACCREDITED OR IF THERE'S EXEMPTIONS THAT THEY'RE AN ACTUAL, ACTUAL HUMANE SOCIETY OR IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY A, UH, WHAT WE CALL A REHABILITATION OR A RESCUE CENTER.
WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY THAT, AND, AND I HAVE VISITED MANY HUNDREDS THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST ONES HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY OPERATED BY MR. AND MRS. HOLMAN.
AND I THINK EVEN SOME OF THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE HERE AND THEY'LL TELL THE SAME THING.
THEY FEEL SAFE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND THEY'VE LIVED NEXT TO 'EM.
I EVEN GET MY, I VISITED HIS LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE LAST.
AND IT LOOK VERY, UH, VERY SAFE.
OUR NEIGHBORS ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.
WE, I GET CALLS A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN I'M IN TOWN.
THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ON THE FRONT PORCHES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT FIVE ACRES AWAY.
CAN YOU MAKE THE LION'S ROAR TONIGHT? IT IS LIKE, CUE UP THE AMBIANCE.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY WORK THAT WAY, BUT WE LIKE TO, WE LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADD TO THAT.
WELL, THEY HAVEN'T ANY NEIGHBORS SIGNED UP TO, UH, UH, TALK AGAINST US.
I SUPPOSE THAT, SO EVIDENTLY MOST OF THEM, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN, BEEN HIDDEN BY ANY MEANS.
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THANK YOU, MR. COOK.THANK YOU GENTLEMEN VERY MUCH.
UH, SHERIFF BURNS WANTS TO SPEAK, UM, ON THIS MATTER.
THIS LAW WAS PASSED, I THINK IN 2001.
AND I, QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK YOU'RE AWARE, JUDGE, I TRIED TO LOBBY AGAINST THIS LAW AND KEEP IT BEING PASSED.
UH, ORIGINALLY I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THIS LONG.
WE HAD 70,000 PEOPLE HERE THEN IT'S STRICTLY A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN WITH ME.
WE'VE GOT, WE'RE BUMPING A HUNDRED THOUSAND NOW.
OUR OPEN SPACE IS OBVIOUSLY, UH, EVAPORATING AT A VERY FAST CLIFF AROUND HERE.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PRIME CONCERN.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS TO KEEP ANYTHING THAT'S LEGAL.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED DOES NOT GUARANTEE SOMETHING WILL NOT HAPPEN.
I HATE TO BE A, YOU KNOW, SCREAMING FIRE, BUT I THINK IT'S STRICTLY A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN WITH ME.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I
BUT I THINK IT JUST WOULD REMOVE A POTENTIAL DANGER TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, THE DALLAS SIOUX IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OAK CLIFF.
UH, THE FORT WORTH SIOUX, UH, IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH.
I GREW UP TAKING MY KIDS TO THE DALLAS SIOUX AND TO THE FORT WORTH ZOO.
UM, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER DEN THAT I SURE WOULD HATE TO PASS ALONG.
IT'S GONNA PUT SOMEONE OUT OF BUSINESS, BEEN IN BUSINESS HERE FOR 15 OR 20 YEARS.
UM, THEY, THEY DID NOT CLOSE THE MARCELLUS ZOO WHEN THAT GORILLA GOT LOOSE LAST YEAR AND, AND, UH, OR THE YEAR BEFORE, THAT'S WHENEVER IT WAS.
UH, THEY JUST, UH, TOOK EXTRA SECURITY MEASURES TO SEE THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
UH, UM, I HAVE TO AGREE THOUGH, THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF TO HAVE A LINE OR TIGER IN HIS BACKYARD CHAIN TO THE GAS TANK OR, OR PROPANE TANK.
UH, I THINK THAT'S VERY INAPPROPRIATE.
AND I THINK SOME OF THE ANIMAL RIGHTS PEOPLE, WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE, THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IS THAT THAT ONE IS JUST CHAINED UP THERE.
AND, AND, UH, THESE GUYS HERE, THEY, THEY TAKE THEIR ANIMALS OUT TO, TO SCHOOLS, TO, UH, PUBLIC EVENTS, UH, EDUCATION FOR THE KIDS.
UH, I WOULD JUST HATE TO SEE US DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD AFFECT THE OPERATION.
NOW, UH, IF WE, UH, WANT TO PASS A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDER FOR FORBIDDING THE KEEPING OF WILD ANIMALS IN AN INDIVIDUAL'S YARD AND NOT IN A COMMERCIAL TYPE SETTING LIKE THESE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
OR IF WE WANT TO, UH, BAN ANY FUTURE ONES CAN COME IN BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE, BUT I HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I SURE WOULD NOT SUPPORT, UH, UH, A BILL OR A, UH, ORDER THAT, UH, DOES NOT GRANDFATHER THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE IN BUSINESS.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, IS LET THE PEOPLE THAT'S HERE STAY RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND, UH, WELL JUDGE, I'LL MAKE THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, LEAVE THESE PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT ARE HERE NOW AND, BUT THAT WE BAN ANY NEW OR EXPANSION OF THESE THAT ARE ALREADY ANY NEW PEOPLE COMING IN OR EXPANSION OF THESE PEOPLE.
IF, IF WE DON'T BAN EXPANSION OF, OF THESE PEOPLE, MR. ANOVA AND THE REST OF WHEN WE'RE HERE, THEN PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE WANT TO MOVE IN CAN JUST COME IN AND PARTNER UP WITH THEM.
SO, UH, AND I, I'LL GET SOME LEGAL WORDING FOR THAT, SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS, RIGHT.
BUT, BUT MY MOTION WOULD BE TO LEAVE THESE PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT ARE HERE NOW AND TO BAN ANY, AND TO BAN ANY NEW, UH, UH, WILDLIFE KEEPERS MOVING IN TO THE FUTURE DATE.
HOW ABOUT NUMBER AND NAME LOCATIONS? UH, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS PUT THAT IN THE ORDER BECAUSE THAT
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ORDER'S GOTTA BE DRAFTED, UH, WITH SOME EXPERTISE.UH, AND UH, SO I THINK IF WE PASSED THE, THE CONCEPT NOW, SUBJECT TO THE ACTUAL ORDER BEING PREPARED BY UH, UH, SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE MORE EXPERTISE.
I ASKED MR. TRIMBLE, WHO'S NOT HERE TODAY, I DIDN'T SEE, UH, I ASKED HIM SOME MONTHS AGO TO DRAW ME UP, UH, A RESOLUTION, LIKE TELL HIM WHAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
AND HE'S GOT THAT IN THERE AND IT NEEDS SOME TWEAKING A LITTLE BIT, SOME CHANGES, BUT I'VE GOT THAT.
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GET OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE IS OKAY.
SO IF, IF WE DON'T NAME THE PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO EXEMPT.
NOW, THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE INDIVIDUAL ANIMALS IN THEIR YARDS, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE GRANDFATHER THE EVERYBODY'S HERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM.
SO WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY WHO IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO, TO OPERATE THAT MAY, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? IF WE'RE GONNA LET MR. TARA KNOW AND MR. COOK AND, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER ELSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
HOW MANY THREE, HOW MANY WERE, HOW MANY MORE, UH, OWNERS ARE.
JIMMY HALL TRIED TO GET IN AND HIS PLANE WAS DELAYED.
UH, HE'S GOT THE BEARS UP ON, UP ON BETWEEN THERE'S, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE BETH AND COREY, JANELLE ARE, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THAT.
COULD THIS MOTION SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UH, THIS GROUP TO BE NAMED? DO I HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN THE MOTION RIGHT NOW, JUDGE, WE DON'T HAVE TO.
THAT'S WHAT THE SHERIFF'S SAYING HE WISH WE WOULD, BUT UH, WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT.
I'M SAYING IF WE KNOW EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS GONNA PERTAIN TO YEAH, THAT COULD BE.
WE COULD GET YOU A LIST OF PROBABLE THIS AFTERNOON.
THERE'S NOT, I THINK THERE'S THREE OF US HERE.
THERE'S JIMMY HALL AND UH, THERE'S UH, BETH MCC.
DOES THE USDA HAVE A LIST OF THE YES.
USDA HAS A LIST OF WHO'S HERE.
EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY WHO WOULD BE, WHO WOULD BE FEDERALLY LICENSED IN THIS COUNTY? YES.
YOU COULD GO OFF THE USDA LIST OF FEDERALLY LICENSED THAT WOULD, WE SHOULD, UH, DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHICH IS TO, UH, KEEP THE OUT THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE MAINTAINED PROPERLY.
CAN WE SAY, UH, ANY THAT ARE PRESENT, THAT ARE FED, THAT ARE CURRENTLY LICENSED WITH THE USDA NOW? UH, YES.
THE, UH, THE MOTION THEN WOULD BE TO, UH, BAN THE KEEPING OF WILD AND DANGEROUS ANIMALS IN THE COUNTY OF KAUFMAN.
EXCEPT FOR THE FIVE, EXCEPT FOR THE KEEPERS WHO ARE FEDERALLY LICENSED.
HE'S NOT FEDERALLY LICENSED, BUT HE HAS A SANCTUARY.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A FEDERAL LICENSE.
HE'S NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE, BUT HE'S BEEN IN THE COUNTY SECURED 16 YEARS.
HE SENT NEIGHBORS HERE KEEPING HIS BEHALF SO EXEMPT.
ANYWAY, WE WANT TO GRANDFATHER THOSE FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN BUSINESS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
YEAH, I BELIEVE, I THINK IT'S THE THREE OF US, JIMMY HALL AND CAPTAIN COREY.
CAN YOU DO IT LIKE THAT? LAURA, CAN YOU JUST NAME PLEASE? WHO? COREY.
WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? ARE THEY THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THEY CAME OUT THAT DAY TO YOU WHEN YOU CAME MY PLACE? I THINK THEY'RE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THEIR LOCATION.
JIM, I THINK THEY MOVED OUT OF CAMP FOR, SO THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE IN COMBINES AND MOVED OUT HERE.
THEY WERE IN THE CITY OF COMBINE.
AND THEY DID, THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT.
THEY HAD A REGISTRATION ALREADY FROM THE COUNTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST NAME THOSE FIVE IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
JIMMY HALL AND THESE THREE PLUS, UH, WHAT WERE THEIR NAMES AGAIN? BETH AND COREY.
I MEAN, NOT SHERIFF, DID YOU GET ALL FIVE OF THEM? ALRIGHT, LET'S START AT THE TOP.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPELL THAT? T-E-R-R-A-N-O-V-A.
IS THAT ONE WORD? ONE WORD, YES MA'AM.
AND IF YOU WANT TO ENTERPRISE,
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I THINK WE'RE KNOWN.JUST MARCUS COOK? YEAH, WE, YEAH.
THE BUSINESS NAME IS ACTUALLY ZOO DYNAMICS.
DO YOU WANT NAMES OR ZOO DYNAMICS? OH, THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD TO HAVE THAT.
WHAT'S THE NAME OF HIS GROUP? IT'S A-A-L-L-S BUSINESS.
IS IT CASTLE BEAR? CASTLE IS PLURAL.
ELLE AND I, THEIR PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR LICENSE AND BREEDERS.
I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISED THEY WEREN'T HERE TODAY.
IN THIS CASE, JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THEIR REGULAR NAMES DOWN.
IT'S J-E-N-N-I-I BELIEVE IT'S J-U-N-E-L-L.
SO MOTION TO APPROVE THE BANNING OF ANY IN, IN, UH, KEEPING OF WILD ANIMALS IN, IN, IN THE COUNTY OF COFFIN EXCEPT WILD, ENDANGERED ANIMALS, I BELIEVE WAS THE STATUTE.
I HAVE WILD ENDANGERED ANIMALS IN THE COUNTY OF KAUFMAN.
EXCEPT THE, AND YOU HAD SAID KEEPERS WHO ARE FEDERALLY LICENSED, ONE IS NOT.
EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING, THE FOLLOWING KEEPERS, FOLLOWING ANIMAL KEEPERS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
WHEN YOU GET DOWN WITH THAT, WOULD YOU READ IT BACK PLEASE? OKAY.
I THINK IT BANS EVERYBODY FROM COMPMAN CAP, WHICH WOULD BE BANNED IN THE FUTURE.
ALSO THE EXPANSION OF, UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER.
DID I HEAR EXPANSION SOMEWHERE? WELL, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN THERE TO KEEP EVERYBODY ELSE FROM COMING IN AND JUST PARTNERING UP WITH YOU ALL.
AS OPERATORS, OUR INVENTORY CHANGED DAVID.
WE HAVE ANIMALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ABLE TO ZOO.
UH, WE ALSO HOUSE OTHER ANIMALS FOR ZOO HERE, WINTER QUARTER AS WELL.
HE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE AREA.
I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
DID YOU CHANGE IT OR AM I GOING WITH WHAT I HAVE? YOU WANNA HEAR WHAT I HAVE? UH, DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU CHANGE.
UM, THERE CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BANNING OF KEEPING OF WILD END DANGEROUS ANIMALS IN THE COUNTY OF KAUFMAN, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING ANIMAL KEEPERS.
DOUG TERRANOVA WITH TERRANOVA ENTERPRISES PRIDE ROCK WILDLIFE REFUGE.
MARCUS COOK WITH ZOO DYNAMICS.
JAMES HALL WITH CASTLE BEARS AND BE AND COREY JANELLE KNOW.
JUDGE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT EXPANSION.
CAN WE JUST ADD ANOTHER SENTENCE IN THERE? OR CAN, DOES IT NEED TO BE, CAN WE JUST SAY, THIS IS, UM, THIS, LET'S SEE, WE'RE SAYING, UH, A VAN EXCEPT FOR THE FIVE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THIS ALSO PRECLUDES ANY, ANY PHYSICAL EXPANSION OF ANY EXPANSION OF THEIR PHYSICAL FACILITY.
CAN YOU GET IT LIKE THAT AT JUST AT THE END OF THAT? WOULD THAT, I'M SORRY.
WOULD THAT MEAN THAT WE CANNOT BUILD ANYMORE PART OF MY INTERRUPTION THERE.
I CAN'T HEAR ALL THE WAY HERE IN THE BACK.
UH, SO SPACE THAT OUR ANIMALS HAS RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T MAKE ANY BIGGER.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? EVEN THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BUYING FIVE ACRES OF LAND AND BRING SOMEBODY IN FROM, FROM VAN COUNTY.
HOW ABOUT UNLESS PETITIONED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR IF YOU LOOK AT IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S FINE.
WITHOUT PERMISSION OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THIS ALSO PRECLUDES ANY EXPANSION OF THEIR PHYSICAL FACILITIES WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
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NOW I WANT YOU READ THE WHOLE THING BACK THERE.CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BANNING OF KEEPING OF WILD, DANGEROUS ANIMALS IN THE COUNTY OF KAUFMAN, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING ANIMAL KEEPERS.
DOUG TERRANOVA WITH TERRANOVA ENTERPRISES PRIDE, ROCK WILDLIFE REFUGE.
MARCUS COOK WITH ZOO DYNAMICS, JAMES HALL WITH CASTLE BEARS.
THIS ALSO PRECLUDES ANY EXPANSION OF THEIR PHYSICAL FACILITIES WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THAT.
DID YOU SAY THE MOTION TO BAN? OR THE MOTION TO BAN.
MR. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.
DO YOU TO VOTE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS.
WHERE IT SAYS, THIS ALSO PRECLUDES ANY EXPANSION, VISIBLE EXPANSION OF IT.
BUT THE, THE WORD PRECLUDE IS A STRANGE YEAH.
UH, JUDGE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROUTING.
AND COMMISSIONER DOUG VOTED NO.
NEXT THING WE HAVE, AND WE MAY NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, UH, DISCUSSING, CONSIDER PASSING RESOLUTION, SUPPORTING THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS.
OUR ASSOCIATION, UH, OPPOSITION TO APPRAISAL CAPS AND REVENUE CAPS.
WE DISCUSSED THIS AND CUSSED IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ON RECORD HOW WE FEEL AND WHERE WE CAN NOTIFY THOSE PEOPLE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROD.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
DISCUSS, CONSIDER KNOWLEDGE AND RECEIPT OF FORM REPORT OF THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL BOARD.
ANYONE HERE TO PRESENT THAT? OH, WHAT? THERE'S MR. RAY.
THEY GIVE YOU THE DAY OFF OR SOMETHING.
NO, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M AT.
HOW YOU DOING? HONORABLE JUDGE WAYNE OF COURT.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY, RECOGNIZE THE AUDITOR AND SAY I APPRECIATE HIS SUPPORT.
HE WORKS WITH US REALLY GOOD ON OUR PART EFFORT.
HE SIGNED CHECKS, SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST RECOGNIZE THE, UH, MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD THAT'S HERE TODAY.
UH, WE HAVE GENERAL BILL BECKER AND WE HAVE, UH, JAMES DICK NEIL FROM NEY.
WE HAVE, UH, JAMES CROUCH TER, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, DICK BRALET, OR RICHARD DICK BRALET FROM MY BANK.
AND RICHARD IS STILL KIND OF AN AD HOC MEMBER OF OUR BOARD AND HE'S OUR RESEARCH PERSON.
DICK DID ALL THE NAMES RESEARCH ON ALL THE NAMES THAT YOU SEE IN THE PARK.
AND SO WE STILL CONTINUE THAT EFFORT.
IN FACT, IN JUST A FEW DAYS, UH, NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE'LL BE PUTTING ABOUT 20, 22 MORE NAMES ON THE MONUMENTS OUT THERE.
WE'LL BE PUTTING ABOUT OUT OF THAT NUMBER.
I BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE ABOUT SEVEN HIGH.
UH, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT MR. NEIL.
MR. NEIL HAS, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE MR. NEIL.
UH, I GOT ACQUAINTED WITH MR. NEIL AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR MOVEMENT, UH, UH, IN BUILDING THE PARK.
MR. NEIL IS THE LARGEST PRIVATE CONTRIBUTOR WE HAVE TO THE PARK.
UM, WE, UH, WE'RE VERY PRIVATE PARK.
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WE THINK IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE VERY NICE.UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE FROM OUT THE AREA IN CEDAR PARK.
UH, I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CALL ME AND TELL ME HOW NICE IT'S, AND PEOPLE EVEN WRITING LETTERS.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS THE FIRST FORMAL REPORT THAT WE MAKE TO THE COURT.
SINCE THE, UH, CREATION OF THE MEMORIAL BOARD, UH, THE MEMORIAL, A VETERANS MEMORIAL BOARD SUCCEEDED THE, UH, CITIZENS COMMITTEE THAT DEVELOPED THE PARK.
UH, AND YOU MADE THIS APPOINTMENT, UH, IN APRIL LAST YEAR.
UH, THE COURT APPOINTED FIVE MEMBERS TO BOARD RAY RAYMOND, PRESIDENT, MR. UH, GENERAL BECKER, UH, SECRETARY, THE VICE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY, UH, AND, UH, MR. DICK NEIL FROM FORNEY, MR. JOE ROGERS FROM CARROLL, AND MR. JAMES KRA FROM CARROLL.
AND SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THESE THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, PROBABLY RETIRING OFF THE BOARD THIS YEAR.
BUT I WAS GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE BOARD SHAPES, UH, SHAPES UP.
UH, THE BOARD ORGANIZED FOR ROBERT CRUZ OF ORDER, AND SO DONE.
RAY RAYMOND GOT ELECTED PRESIDENT AND GENERAL BILL BECKER GOT ELECTED SECRETARY PRESIDENT.
THE COURT ASSIGNED THE BOARD OF MISSION AND THAT MISSION SAYS, UH, THE BOARD SHALL HAVE COMPLETE CHARGE OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK AND ALL FUTURE COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIALS TO BE ESTABLISHED.
UH, AS TO THE BUDGET, THE COUNTY WILL WILL BUDGET $7,800 FOR THE, UH, MEMORIAL PARK MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS AND UTILITIES.
THE BOARD WILL FINANCE CAPITAL ADDITIONS AND DON, UH, CAPITAL ADDITIONS WITH DONATIONS TO PRIVATE FUNDS.
THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED POLICIES FOR USE OF THE VETERANS OF MOORE PARK, GIVEN PRIORITY TO THE COUNTY VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS AND TO THE FAMILIES OF THE COUNTY VETERANS FOR SCHEDULING EVENTS OR FOR SCHEDULING EVENTS.
THE PARK IS OTHERWISE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE NEXT EVENT THAT WILL BE HELD AT THE PARK IF TRAVELING VIETNAM WALL, WHICH WILL BE HERE IN LATTER PART OF APRIL, VISITORS TO THE PARK, FREQUENTLY GO NEXT DOOR TO THE COUNTY LIBRARY TO SEEK INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
ALSO, PEOPLE VISIT THE LIBRARY AND OFTEN STROLL STROLL OVER TO THE MEMORIAL PARK.
SO THE BOARD, UH, TO TOUR PARK THE BOARD AND THE COUNTY LIBRARY LIBRARIAN HAVE WORKED OUT A CORPORATION AGREEMENT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES, TO ADVANCE OBJECTIVES OF HONORING OUR VETERANS AND TO PROMOTE EDUCATION AND PATRIOTISM THROUGH MILITARY HISTORY THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
THE COUNTY LIBRARY IS MAIN, IS THE COUNTY LIBRARY, IS TO MAINTAIN THE SHELF OF HISTORY BOOKS WITHOUT THE EIGHT WAR ORALIZED AND INFORMATION ON VETERANS ON THE VETERANS PARK.
THE BOARD PROVIDE A BRIEFER OR A TOUR CONDUCTOR FOR SCHEDULED TOURS OF THE PARK.
THE LIBRARY MEETING ROOM WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD UP TO DATE, THERE ARE MORE THAN 5,000 COUNTY VETERANS NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN ENGRAVED ON EIGHT WAR MONUMENTS IN THE PARK.
MORE NAMES ARE REGULARLY IDENTIFIED.
WE HAVE INSTALLED A, A CAMERA SECURITY SYSTEM.
WE HAVE PURCHASED OR SECURED A M 60 BATTLE TANK THAT WILL BE, UH, STATIONED IN THE PARK ON DISPLAY.
WE HAVE RECENTLY, UH, SANDBLASTED THAT TIME AND AS OF SATURDAY WE PUT THE FINAL COAT ON IT.
AND SO IT'S READY TO MOVE INTO THE PARK.
AND, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY MOVING THAT INTO THE PARK AS SOON AS THE, UH, VIETNAM WALL.
UH, WEEKEND, UH, WE HAVE A BRONZE SOLDIER THAT, UH, IS BEING MADE
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AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY RECEIVE THAT SOMETIME IN APRIL.AND, UH, HOPE I'LL HAVE A BASE READY TO, UH, PUT THE SOLDIER UP.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE A QUITE A ION TO A PARK SOLDIER UP.
AND NOW, GENERAL BECKER, SINCE HE, UH, WAS SO ACTIVE WITH HELICOPTERS IN VIETNAM, HE'D LIKE TO SEE A HELICOPTER AT THE PARK.
AND I HAVE CONTACTED, UH, I CONGRESS WITH JIM HAN AND ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD ASSIST US IN SECURING A HELICOPTER.
AND HE SAYS HE'S GONNA DO HIS BEST TO GET US A HELICOPTER.
WE'LL PUT A HELICOPTER UP ON A POLE OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE PARK, WHICH WILL CERTAINLY ADD A LOT TO THE PARK.
AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, CONGRESSMAN'S ALSO TRYING TO HELP US SECURE TWO HOUSES BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE TWO SMALL HOUSES, ONE SET ON EACH SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
AND WHEN WE, UH, IF WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND GET THOSE, HOPEFULLY THAT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF THE PART.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, I WAS GONNA SAY EARLIER ON, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS MOVEMENT IN ABOUT, IN AUGUST OF 2 0 0 3.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN, UH, STRIVING TO GET THIS THING COMPLETED AND MAKE IT, UH, AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT TURNED OUT TO BE.
WE, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE CORPORATION AND THE SPORT THAT THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED FROM COUNTY GOVERNMENT, THE COUNTY VETERANS ORGANIZATION, AND THE PUBLIC IN ONE YEAR TERM.
UH, TWO OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, RAY RAYMOND AND GENERAL BILL BECKER WILL EXPIRE, UH, IN APRIL.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO NAME TWO PEOPLE TO THOSE POSITIONS, UH, IN THE MONTH OF APRIL.
AND THAT BRINGS UP WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
UH, I SAW THAT, UH, YOU AND GENERAL ER'S TERM WERE TOO CLOSE TO EXPIRING.
UH, I THOUGHT, WHY CAN'T WE JUST REAPPOINT YOU GUYS NOW TO A THREE YEAR TERM? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT, UH, YOU SERVED YOUR ONE AND Y'ALL SEE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
YOU'VE GOT THE HELICOPTER YOU NEED TO GET IN THERE.
YOU GOT TWO
AND IT IS, IT MAKES A TREMENDOUS, UH, EXHIBIT I HEARD LOT ABOUT.
HE'LL SAVE ME A PHONE CALL IN NEXT WEEK.
I, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ONE MORE YEAR 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET COMPLETED.
BUT AT THAT TIME I, I'D LIKE TO POINT SOME, ALRIGHT, WELL WE COULD, UH, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN SHAKE IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND, AND POINT Y'ALL TO, TO ONE MORE ONE YEAR TERM.
AND THEN DURING THIS NEXT YEAR, Y'ALL CAN BE WORKING WITH SOMEONE AND TRAINING ON THE, IN THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE DO ANOTHER ONE YEAR TERM.
NO, SERIOUSLY GUYS, I I DON'T WANT MAKE IT ONE, ONE YEAR.
I GOT A COMMITMENT FROM MR. RAYMOND GENERAL.
NEVER ARGUED WITH A MAJOR GENERAL.
I LEARNED THAT WHEN I WAS A CORPORAL
GENERAL, YOU'RE WORKING ON A CANDIDATE TO TAKE YOUR PLACE.
OKAY, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE MORE PLACE OPEN TOO THIS YEAR.
I THINK MR. JOE ROGERS MATERIAL DUE TO HE'S SO, BUT I'LL JUST KEEP US POSTED.
I'LL, I'LL HEAD THAT AND WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE NAMES.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, UH, FACILITY OUT THERE.
I'VE, IN MY TRAVEL, BECAUSE UNITED STATES, I, I TRY TO MAKE ALL OF THE MEMORIALS AND I GUARANTEE YOU WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS KOFFMAN COUNTY'S MEMORIAL IS BETTER THAN MOST STATES.
SO, ALRIGHT, WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UH, VIETNAM IN HERE BECAUSE, UH, JOHNNY AND
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OTHERS SAY THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE 25 PEOPLE THAT COME BY THERE TO SEE THAT.AND THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A GREAT PROMOTION FOR OUR PARK.
WHAT IF YOU HAD A TIGER CHAINED UP OUT THERE? SO
BUT THAT SOLDIER, IN MY OPINION, UH, AND, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, GIVE THE CREDIT TO MR. NEIL FOR THAT SOLDIER.
UH, I, I HAD BEEN TALKING TO EVERYBODY THAT I WOULD MEET ABOUT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT SOLDIER.
AND FINALLY ONE DAY, MR. NEIL SAID, UH, ARE YOU HAVING ANY LUCK TO THE SOLDIER? DO YOU STILL WANT THE SOLDIER? AND I SAID, YES, I'M GET THAT ONLY HE SENT ME A CHECK, BUT THAT NOT, UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
UH, WILL, WILL THE SOLDIER BE DRESSED IN A WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, VIETNAM, KOREA ERA? OR HOW WILL HE BE DRESSED? HE'D BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE THAN WORLD WAR II.
YES, I GAVE YOU A LITTLE, I STARTED WITH THEM.
I THINK I SAW THE, UH, IT'LL BE EIGHT FEET TALL AND IT'LL BE, UH, THE PEDESTAL WILL BE, UH, ABOUT SIX AND A HALF FEET AND HE'LL BE STANDING RIGHT BEHIND THE SIGN, SAYS, AND THE BASE GOING DESIGN SIMILAR TO THE BASE ON THE SOLDIER OVER HERE.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK Y'ALL PUT IN.
IT'S GREAT AND GREAT FACILITY AND SOMETHING, UH, TON COUNTY CAN REALLY BE PROUD OF FOREIGN TO THE FUTURE.
JOHNNY, SINCE, UH, HE BROUGHT IT UP, UH, WHILE YOU WERE HERE, YOU MIGHT MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU'RE STILL SEEKING VOLUNTEERS TO WORK.
AS WHAT Y'ALL KNOW, WHEN HE GETS HERE ON WEDNESDAY, WE'LL BE HAVING A SMALL CEREMONY FOR IT.
UH, THE TRUSTEE WILL SET UP FOR US THURSDAY MORNING, BUT FROM ONE O'CLOCK THURSDAY UNTIL FOUR O'CLOCK SUNDAY, WE'RE OPEN FULL TIME.
WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE THERE AT ALL TIMES.
UHD LIKE TO HAVE MORE AT NIGHT, BUT WE'LL HAVE A LICENSE,
WE NEED PEOPLE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME TO HELPING US.
UH, YOU'LL BE WORKING A LOCATOR.
IF SOMEONE WALKS UP AND ASK YOU WHERE RON ENS NAME ON IS, YOU'LL PUT IN HIS NAME.
JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS AT NIGHT.
IT'LL BE ASKED TO BE OUT THERE HELPING GUARD IT AND TALK TO VETERANS TO COME OUT THERE AT NIGHT.
SO I CAN CERTAINLY USE ANY, ANY HELP.
I CAN GET YOU TWO HOUR SHIFTS, YOU KNOW, EIGHT O'CLOCK, 10, ANYTIME LIKE THAT.
UH, WE HAVE VISITED VISITING EVERY INTERMEDIATE JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, C COUNTY, PERSONALLY, ANYBODY.
AND I RECEIVED, UH, THREE PHONE CALLS OF TEACHERS IN, IN KEMP AND IN MAYBANK CALLED BRINGING THEIR PEOPLE UP HERE.
UH, THE ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL, THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL OF KAMAN IS GONNA TURN OUT, COME ACROSS THE STREET, UH, TON, SEVERAL BUS LOADS.
THURSDAY, THE VA CALLED ME SATURDAY AND THEY ASKED PERMISSION TO BRING IN SEVERAL BUSLOADS TO THEIR PEOPLE, THE PATIENTS UP THERE, WHICH OF COURSE I SAID YES.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW WE GET 'EM ROUND UP THERE WITH THE TRAIN, BUT, UH, I SOMETHING FIGURED OUT.
IT COULD BE THE BIGGEST
BY FAR THE BIGGEST EVENT, PROBABLY SOUTH, CALLED COUNTY.
A LOT OF WORK BEEN PUT INTO THIS.
I I HOPE EVERYBODY WILL TURN OUT FOR WELL LOT LOST SLEEP TOO.
I TELL THAT I'VE SIGNED UP TO WORK FROM 10 AT NIGHT TILL SIX IN THE MORNING THAT FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY NIGHT, AND I COULD USE SOME COMPANY.
SO WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT 10 AT NIGHT TILL SIX IN THE MORNING, I'LL BRING YOU COFFEE.
UH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT VETERAN'S MEMORIAL BOARD OF REPORT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DELL.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK, UH, FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL COME BACK TO ORDER NOW, PLEASE.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSED.
CONSIDER CONSOLIDATED VOTING PRECINCTS FOR THE 2007 STATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE VOTING DEPARTMENT THAT'S GONNA DISCUSS THAT? UH, WE JUST HAVE THE LIST THERE THAT, UH, I HAVE TO PASS OUT TO YOU GUYS.
YOU GOT ONE? YOU HAVE AN EXTRA, I THINK, JUDGE, YOU GOT AN ONE.
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I DUNNO.THE MEDIA WANTS ONE UHHUH, HUH? THANK YOU.
CAN YOU GET US A GOOD INK FOR THAT? I MAY, I CAN, I MAY NOT EVEN CHARGE YOU
THIS IS WHAT, UM, MR. MURPHY WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE.
ONLY QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK HAS ALWAYS BEEN APPROVED BY THE STATE.
IF THAT'S ALL OKAY WITH THE STATE, IT'S OKAY WITH ME.
WELL, THE STATE'S NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT, BUT IT'S ATTORNEY.
WELL, THE STATE CONSTITUTION MINISTER, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS SECRETARY OF STATE.
WE HAVE TO BE APPROVED FOR A STATE ELECTION.
YEAH, THESE ARE ALREADY, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY VOTING PLACES.
COMMISSIONER'S COURT VOTES TO DO THIS THEN ALL THIS INFORMATION GOES OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
DOESN'T GO OUT UNTIL, I MEAN, NO REASON TO SEND IT OUT UNLESS Y'ALL APPROVE THEM.
SO IF Y'ALL APPROVE THESE CONSOLIDATIONS, THEN IT'LL BE SENT TO THE, UM, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND SECRETARY STATE'S OFFICE.
SECRETARY OF STATE MR. MURPHY TALKED TO.
THAT'S THE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
LONG AS MR. MURPHY JUSTICE IS THE ONE THAT CONTROLS, AS LONG AS HE'S CLEARED THAT WITH EVERYBODY, THIS IS FINE.
WE CLEARED WITH DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
HE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
AND THEN IT GOES OUT THIS WE'LL AFTERNOON TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN WASHINGTON AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL BE CALLING YOU GUYS.
AND MAKING SURE THAT, THAT YOU'RE NOT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ANY FACTION IN THE COUNTY IF YOU AGREE TO DO THIS
WELL, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, THEY, I ASSUME NOW THEY'RE HAVING A LITTLE PROBLEM UP THERE WITH I UNDERSTAND WITH SOME OF THE ASSISTANT, UH, ATTORNEY'S, UH, NOT ASSISTANT, BUT WITH THE, UH, ATTORNEY GENERAL'S, UH, PEOPLE THEMSELVES.
SO, SO WE HAVE TO, MAYBE THEY STILL HAVE ENOUGH ON PAYROLL THERAPY TO GO OVER THIS, BUT WE STILL HAVE, WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT BEFORE THEY CAN DEAL WITH THIS.
WE APPROVE IN START THE PROCESS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROD BACK COMMISSIONER TAYLOR TO APPROVE THE CONSOLIDATIONS.
UH, JUST A LITTLE HOME, UH, HOUSEKEEPING, UH, DISCUSSING, PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF APRIL THE SECOND THROUGH THE EIGHTH AS NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
SO MAY, UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
UH, THIS NEXT ITEM, DISCUSS, CONSIDER RELOCATING EXTENSION SERVICE IN THE NEW BUDGET GEAR.
UH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT RALPH, YOU WANT TO VISIT WITH US AND, UH, ROBERT.
MR. ROBERT DOBBS AND, UH, RALPH, UH, DAVIS, DAVIS COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
RALPH AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR A FEW YEARS NOW ABOUT A WAY TO PARTNER WITH THE FARM BUREAU AND THE EXTENSION SERVICE TO TRY TO BENEFIT BOTH ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, I DO SEVERAL THINGS IN THE COUNTY.
I'M ON THE EXTENSION SERVICE LEADERSHIP ADVISORY BOARD.
I'M THE SHERIFF'S TRAINING COMMISSION CHAIR.
UH, I MANAGE THE FARM BUREAU, WHICH IS THE LARGEST NON-PROFIT WITH 4,500 MEMBER FAMILIES IN THE COUNTY.
AND IN MY SPARE TIME, I SELL SOME INSURANCE.
UH, SOME OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WITH SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS AT FARM BUREAU HAVE BEEN US TO OKLAHOMA AND THEY HAVE, UH, FACILITIES UP THERE WITH THE FARM BUREAU AND THE EXTENSION SERVICE ARE GARY, WHERE OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION SUPPORTS THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AND THEY LIKE THE WAY THOSE FACILITIES LOOK AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO DO DOWN HERE.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS Y'ALL DISCUSSED THIS MORNING IN THE POPULATION OF THE COUNTY, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS HAVE ALL LED US TO COME TO SOME DIFFERENT APPROACHES ON THIS.
BUT I'VE TALKED TO ME A FEW YEARS AGO
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ABOUT IF I COULD COME UP WITH A PLACE TO DO A CORRECT MYRTLE PROJECT WHERE HE COULD USE TYPES OF CORRECT MYRTLES THAT WITHDRAW IN THE COUNTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.WE DIDN'T HAVE A FACILITY AT THE TIME, AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO RELOCATE OUR OFFICE FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS A PRETTY PERFECT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I GAVE Y'ALL A PICTURE OF THE BUILDING AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE NORTH OF COFFMAN BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD HEARD AND FROM BEING ON THE BOARD THAT HAD COME UP WITH, AND I'VE BEEN OVER TO THEIR LOCATION NOW AT TER, INTERVIEWED LITTLE FOUR H KIDS THAT CAME IN THERE NEXT DOOR TO WHERE THE FELONS GO REPORT TO HAVE THEIR STUFF.
AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS TO TRY TO MOVE THEM AWAY FROM THE PROBATION OFFICE.
ANOTHER CONCERN WAS TRYING TO GET 'EM BACK OVER HERE TO CALL.
WELL, I, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO Y'ALL TRY TO HELP YOU RUN THE COUNTY.
I'VE WITNESSED THAT THIS MORNING.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA COME TO YOU WITH A PROBLEM WITHOUT A SOLUTION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OFFERING THIS MORNING.
UH, WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS BUILDING THAT TO HOUSE THE FARM BUREAU, UH, TO OFFER A 1800 TO 2000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY TO THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND A MEETING ROOM AND A DEMONSTRATION KITCHEN AT THEIR USE, THAT WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE, UH, AIR CONDITIONING AND ALL THAT ON FOR ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH.
WE COULD DO THAT TO MOVE THEM IN THERE WITH US.
AND WHAT, HERE'S THE BENEFITS THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
I, I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRETTY LEADING EDGE PROGRAM FOR US TO BE LOOKED AT.
A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GO ON IN THE COUNTY.
MY POSITION WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DO THAT NEED, YOU NEED TO BE GETTING CREDIT FOR AROUND THE COUNTY THAT ARE PRETTY GOOD PROGRAMS. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A PROGRAM WE COULD BE LOOKED AT, ESPECIALLY FOR A COUNTY THAT'S A GROWTH COUNTY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM A LOT OF AGRICULTURE TO MORE URBAN SOCIETY.
WE'RE OFFERING A PLACE WHERE THEY, PEOPLE COULD COME AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT KIND OF GRASSES.
THAT COUNTY, THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE BUYING IS NINE MINUTES SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF 34 AND NINE 20.
SO IF YOU WERE TELLING SOMEONE FROM CORN OR
THE, THE LOCATION WHERE I'M NOW HAS SEVEN TENTHS OF AN ACRE.
THIS HAS THREE FULL ACRES PLUS A POND ON IT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO HAVE A LOCATION WHERE THERE COULD BE A DEMONSTRATION GARDEN WITH THE MASTER GARDENERS PROGRAM, UH, RALPH AND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A RAIN WATER RECOVERY PROGRAM TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THAT IN OUT HERE.
UH, IF HE WANTED TO DIG OUT THE POND, USE THAT FOR SOME DEMONSTRATION, HE COULD DO THAT.
WE, UH, WE BASICALLY NEED OUR PART OF THE BUILDING AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE, WE COULD WORK WITH 'EM.
UH, WE BUDGET A LARGE PART OF OUR YOUTH ACTIVITY BUDGET EVERY YEAR TO GO TOWARDS OUR ACADEMIC CLASSROOM PROGRAM AND CARRY ADMINISTERS.
UH, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE DEMONSTRATION KITCHEN THING THAT WE COULD PUT IN AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I THINK IT GIVES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE AND EXPAND THE EXTENSION SERVICE.
YOU HAVE TO OUT THERE GOTTA BE SOMETHING IN WHERE THE FARM BUREAU, WHERE THE INSURANCE SIDE OF IT, THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE COMING ON OUR PREMISES LOOKING AT A VERY POSITIVE THING AND MAY LOOK AT US IN A POSITIVE LIGHT AND WANNA GET A QUOTE ON INSURANCE.
SO IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND A BENEFIT FOR THE EXTENSION SERVICE.
UH, THE SECOND SHEET I GOT THERE IS THE, UH, FLOOR PLAN THAT WE'VE KIND OF DRAWN OUT THERE.
THE MEETING ROOM I PUT ON YOUR DEAL WAS GONNA BE 40 PERSON, BUT MY BOARD SAID NO, IT'S GONNA BE 50 PERSON, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE WALL.
MY OFFICE IS GONNA GET SHRUNK A LITTLE BIT.
THEY DIDN'T THINK I NEEDED QUITE AS MUCH AND WE NEEDED MORE MEETING ROOMS. WE'RE GONNA OFFER A 50 PERSON MEETING ROOM WITH THE KITCHEN FACILITY AT THE BACK OF IT THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE EXTENSION SERVICE TO DO THEIR ACTIVITIES IN.
AND THEN THE END THAT, UH, WE PROPOSED TO LET THE COUNTY USE FOR THE EXTENSION SERVICE ALREADY HAS THE RESTROOM INSTALLED AND IT'S ALREADY, UH, FINISHED OUT AND HAS THE, UH, AIR CONDITIONING IN IT.
IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE FINISHED HOWEVER YOU WANTED TO SET UP THE OFFICES.
THIS, THIS IS THE, WHAT YOU'VE DRAWN UP JUST FOR THE EXTENSION SERVICE SIDE? THIS, THE OFFICES AND EVERYTHING? WELL, NO, THE OFFICES THAT I'VE DRAWN UP, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FARM BUREAU OFFICES ON THE WORK RIGHT END OF THE BUILDING THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA GET MOVED OVER THREE FEET TO THE, TO THE NORTH END OF THE BUILDING THOUGH, TO MAKE THE MEETING ROOM A LITTLE LARGER.
UH, THE AREA THAT THE, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THE EXTENSION SERVICE WAS THE OFFICE SHOWROOM AREA OF THE FEET STORE THAT OCCUPIED THE BUILDING BEFORE US.
AND IT'S AIR CONDITIONED, BUT THERE'S NOT ANY FINISHING DONE TO IT OTHER THAN JUST, IT'S A LARGE OPEN ROOM LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE FOR, YOU KNOW, HAS SHELVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT DOES HAVE A RESTROOM ALREADY FINISHED OUT IN THE CORNER OF IT.
JUDGE, THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECT MAYOR.
WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO, TO PARTNER UP WITH, UH, EXTENSION SERVICE.
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WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE PART ENOUGH.WOULD IT BE RENTING? THE WOULD BE RENTING THE SERVICE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T, OF COURSE, THAT'S WHY WE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO RENT 'EM A PLACE.
UH, SO WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD, UH, FINISH OUT THE INTERIOR OF THE EXTENSION SERVICE AREA? I COULD, YOU COULD FINISH THAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD FINISH THAT ANY WAY THAT THEY WANTED TO.
THAT'D BE, I GUESS, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EXTENSION SERVICE TO GET THAT DONE.
I GUESS THAT'D BE LEFT UP TO US.
THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE A CONCERN, I, I THINK, UH, THE LOCATION'S GOOD.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS.
STATE SERVICE, MOVING BACK TO KAMAN, UH, BEING THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY AND, UH, WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS WE TRY TO DO IN THE MAYBANK AREA AND THE KEMP AREA TO INCORPORATE THOSE PEOPLE.
LL ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S 75 YEARS OLD OR 80 YEARS OLD, TRYING TO DRIVE THE LL UH, WHICH WE PROBABLY HAVE WITH THE LINE SHARE OF ALL OF OUR EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS.
SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE THE EXTENSION SERVICE TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENT ON THAT.
UM, THE COUNTY OF COURSE HAS GROWTH ISSUES.
MR. CARMONA I KNOW PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME OF OUR AREA TO EXPAND PROBATION.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS GROWTH AND BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY.
I, I KNOW WE'RE ALL IN A CRUNCH FOR, FOR SPACE.
THIS DOES OFFER A PRETTY GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
WE, WE ARE UNDER CARRIE AND, AND KATIE, UH, AND THEY'RE SITTING IN THE BACK AND BACK AND I'D CERTAINLY LIKE FOR THEM TO TALK IF THEY WANT TO.
UH, WE'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH ON BOARD WITH THIS.
WHEN, WHEN ROBERT BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, THEY'RE GONNA BUY THIS BUILDING.
WE'LL GIVE YOU 2000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE AND THAT'S MORE THAN YOU HAVE.
AND THAT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE NOW.
THAT'S ABOUT $500, 500 SQUARE FEET WHERE WE'VE GOT THAT RIGHT AT 50 SQUARE FEET.
I THINK NOT COUNTING THE LOBBY THAT THAT'S IN FRONT OF THAT COURTHOUSE WHERE WE HANG A LOT OF PUBLICATIONS IN THAT LOBBY.
AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF IT.
BUT, BUT I, BEFORE WE MOVE, I SURE WE LIKE TO HAVE THE T'S CROSSED AND I'S DOTTED WELL THAT WHO'S GONNA BUILD THE OFFICES AND YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNTY'S GOING TO BUILD 'EM, OKAY.
WHERE THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM.
WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, WE SEIZE, SINCE IT'S NOT A COUNTY ON BUILDING, WE CAN'T USE MR. PORTER AND TRUSTEES.
WE CAN ONLY USE THOSE ON THOSE GUYS COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.
UH, SO IF IT'S GONNA BE LEFT TO THE COUNTY TO, TO GO IN AND PUT THE WALLS UP AND MAKE THE OFFICES, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY COSTLY.
WE NEED TO GET TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND DO THAT.
THEN WELL SEE THAT PRESENTS AGAIN, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE BROUGHT IT UP WHILE AGO ABOUT USING COUNTY MONEY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
A IF IT WAS COMPLETED OUT, WE JUST GONNA GO IN AND RENT THE BUILDING RENT THAT SHOULD BE HUNDRED A MONTH FOR HIS RENT AND LET THEM FINISH IT OUT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE MOVE INTO A FINISHED OUT BUILDING.
WOULD THE FARM BUREAU BE SOMEBODY AGREEABLE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ROBERT, WHAT WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE WITH? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE CAN PROBABLY WORK SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT IF IT'S, UH, WORKS OUT.
IT'S NOT ABOVE MARKET VALUE, RIGHT? WELL, 2000 SQUARE FEET THOUSAND MONTH, THAT'S ABOUT HALF OR MORE, LESS THAN HALF PRICE.
WHAT YOU WOULD RENT OUT THAT SQUARE IN A ELECTRICITY.
OF COURSE THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW FOR, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, ELECTRICITY AND INTERNET BECAUSE THE COUNTY ALREADY PROVIDES ALL THAT.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN OUR OFFICES ALSO.
I THINK, UH, I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT AND, AND I THINK IT, IT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE, BUT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO NEED A LOT MORE COST FIGURES AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS GONNA COST US.
IT'S LIKE I SAY RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE BUDGET.
IT'LL HAVE TO BE A, A NEW ITEM IN THE EXTENSION SERVICE, UH, BUDGET.
UH, BUT I KNOW WE CAN'T SPEND COUNTY MONEY ON IT OTHER THAN JUST RENTING IT AS IS.
ROBERT, COULD YOU OR OR RALPH GET SOME, SOME PRIVATE CONTRACTOR
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TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT COST, COST TO UH, FINISH OUT THIS, THIS PART OF IT HERE AND I COULD, COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD IDEA RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY GOT BIDS ON MY END OF THE BUILDING.UH, NOW MY END OF THE BUILDING INCLUDED ROCK IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW IS A METAL BUILDING.
WE'RE GONNA PUT AUSTIN STONE ACROSS THE FRONT AND GIVE IT A RURAL LOOK TO THE BUILDING.
SO FARM DRILL'S GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF ALL THAT.
IT WAS GONNA COST ABOUT $56,000 FOR ME TO DO 2200 SQUARE FEET.
PLUS THE MEETING ROOM, WHICH IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TWO THIRDS OF THE BUILDING WAS GONNA COST ABOUT $56,000 WITH THE ROCK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE WHOLE DEAL.
SO HE'S GONNA BE DOING 2000, WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE
WELL, NO, WE'RE AT ABOUT, IT'S 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING SQUARE FEET.
SO YOU TAKE A LITTLE BIT OFF THAT.
AND THEN IT WAS $12,000 FOR THE ROCK ON THE FRONT OFF THE 56.
SO SOMEWHERE IN THE NAME OF IT, $35,000 YOU CAN FINISH OUT.
WE HAD TO HAVE PLUMBING BECAUSE THERE ARE NO RESTROOMS ON THE END THAT WE'RE GOING DO AND THE RESTROOM INTO THAT ONE.
SO THAT TAKE OFF ANOTHER 10,000.
SO PROBABLY YOU COULD GET IT DONE FOR ABOUT 25,000.
SO IF WE ADDED $25,000 TO WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO AND THAT, BUT WE COULD, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET YOU EXACT FIGURES AND BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU.
BUT WE, YOU'D HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION, I THINK ABOUT 10, 15 YEARS FOR YOU TO RECOUP THAT AMOUNT IN THERE.
IF THAT'S, YOU CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
WELL, IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE 300.
I JUST YOU OUT SIR, PUTTING OUT A NUMBER.
I JUST, BUT I CAN GET THOSE FIGURES FOR YOU BECAUSE I'VE HAD A LOT OF PRACTICE WORKING ON MY END OF THE BUILDING ALREADY AND I HAVE A BOARD THAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO SELL EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE TO DO ON MY END OF THE BUILDING.
SO WELL JUDGE, WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO GET THOSE FIGURES TOGETHER AND GIVE US A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT ALSO.
I ENTERTAIN MOST OF THE TABLE IS FOR TODAY UNTIL WE GET SOME MORE FIGURES AND, AND THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND, AND, UH, GET SOME PUBLIC INPUT.
I'M SURE AFTER SEEING THIS OWN AGENDA, THERE'LL BE SOME PUBLIC, SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK FAVOR, SKY A MOVE ALL OUR INSURANCE OVER THE NO, BUT WHEN WE DO THE GRAND DOCUMENT, I WAS HOPE Y'ALL COULD HOOK ME UP WITH SOME RIGHTS.
I HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER RENEWING OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH THE NORTH AND EAST TEXAS COUNTY JUDGES COMMISSIONER'S ASSOCIATION AND PAYING OUR DUES OF $125.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
JUDGE, WHAT IS THAT? NORTH? IT'S IN JUNE.
I ALREADY GOT MY, I DON'T HAVE MINE YET.
YOU GONNA STAY AT CLEAR CROSS TOWN? IF YOU DON'T, YOU MAY HAVE STAY OVER IN AUSTIN.
IS IT IN AUSTIN? NO, IT'S IN COLLEGE.
OH, IS THAT HOTEL FILLS UP? HOTEL FILLS UP THE ONE WE WERE GOING TO TO DEL.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE PROGRAM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM DOWN AUCTION HALL.
UH, DISCUSS TO CONSIDER APPROVE THE DENTATION OF JOHN
I DO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOW.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
NOW WE DISCUSSED CONSIDERED DEPUTIZING JAMES STROUT FOR THE COLMAN COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER FELLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
NOW EMBARK WANTS TO FER SOME CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD 40 17.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, 40, 61.
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WE GOT SHANE SECONDED THE FIRST ONE ROUND AND THE SECOND ONE.MR. CLARK WILL SECOND THAT ONE.
ONE SECOND AND SECOND IT ALL 30.
LET'S SEE HOW THEY DOING ON THAT ONE.
THEY SENT THEM HOME THE OTHER DAY, DIDN'T THEY? I HEARD THEY WERE CLOSING UP.
WELL, THEY STILL DID EIGHT OF THEM.
THIS IS THE WEEK ENDING, UH, MARCH 9TH.
UH, JUDGE, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECEIPT OF THIS, UH, REPORT.
MAKE THE JUDGE SECOND, NOT SECOND ONE.
GET OFF OUR, GET US ALL CONFUSED.
WE PROPOSED LINE TRANSFERS AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION FOR TARGET TO PICK $2,000 PRODUCTIONS AND REPAIRS.
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE EQUIPMENT, 3000 IN TRAINING, 3000 GAS AND OIL CHARITIES, INCREASED INVESTIGATIVE EXPENSES, 2000 REDUCTION BURIAL COSTS.
DA HOT CHECK FUND, INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS A THOUSAND IN PRODUCTION OF INSURANCE AND ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT.
FOUR INCREASED TOOLS INTO EQUIVALENT 20,000 WITH PRODUCTION MATERIAL.
GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST MOTION.
THOSE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, BY COMMISSIONER SHANE ALL IN MOTION CARRIES.
AND I GUESS WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BILLS.
HOW DOESN'T, LEMME SPEND MUCH MONEY THIS WEEK.
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BUT NOBODY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING TO HAD SOME TREES IN PRECINCT.WE, WE DON'T HAVE TREES, BUT WE STILL THE SAME THING ON SIDE THE ROAD IN THE CONDITION OF WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU GOT A TREE THAT'S ON PRIVATE LIMB OFF THAT TREE? COULD YOU CUT IT? IF HE GAVE PERMISSION, WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE TO DO MY RADIO BROADCAST TONIGHT? FOUR 30.
IT'LL COST US ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF.
I GOT A MEETING WITHER AT TWO.
JUST KEEP, I APPRECIATE I BE SURE TO SAY MY NAME NOW.
YOU'LL BE IN, YOU'LL BE INTRODUCED AS ME.
AND YOU SAY YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW DON'T YOU BETTER NOT.
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I'LL SAY, UH, THE JUDGE SAID BOTH JERRY, JERRY HARD.YOU KNOW HIS, HIS MATTER OF FACT THAT THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT Y'ALL.
DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER OH, HE USED TO COVER THAT.
IT'D BE OKAY FOR ME TO GET LITTLE PLUG.
IT WAS, IT WAS 90 BY THE FEDERAL STATUTES TO CERTAIN INFORMATION WHEN SALE CAME AROUND 11,000, 40 DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND I GUARANTEE A TWO THIRD THAT THEY KEEP GIVING TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE.
ABOUT FIVE MINUTES THEY KEPT BIDDING ON THAT HOG AND THEY KEPT GIVING IT BACK AND SAYING, RESELL IT.
I'D SAY MOST LARGE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED THAT THERE'S NO YOUNG MAN IN THE FAMILY.
THEY TELL THERE'S BIG LEAD THERE AND THERE'S WHERE WE BUY TALK.
YOU KNOW HE CALLED, HE TRIED TO GET MONEY FROM TOO.
HE GAVE, I SAID HE DIDN'T ASK ME THIS ASK.
YOU SAID YOU'D GIVE 200? NO, HE SAID HE'D GONNA COVER A MILLION YEARS.
IF HE REMEMBER FIVE PEOPLE GO THROUGH 2000 DOCUMENTS EACH AND THEY HIGHLIGHTED WHAT THEY THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE.
I THINK THAT WAS, I WAS HOPING HOW IS RON'S MOTHER DOING? OKAY.
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THAT'S WHY REQUEST FIRST DO IS WELL TO SAY YES.THAT'S WHEN WE CONTACT AND SAY, LOOK MR. SO AND SO WANTS TO BE HERE.
AND IF YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT IT ON THERE, WE DON'T PUT IT OFF.
WELL, HE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING 18 MONTHS ON ALL DIFFERENT THINGS.
HE'S, AND THE ANSWER ALWAYS COME BACK AT TUCK COUNTY.
JUDGE, GET SOMEBODY TO RUN AGAINST YOUR
HE HAD HIS TRUCK FOR 15 YEARS.
MOTION PAY COMMISSIONER IT ALL IN A MOTION CARRIES AND WE CAN PAY THE BILLS.
COMMISSIONER ER WILL MAKE THE MOTION.