* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] COMMISSIONER SHANE, YOU WANT US TO OPEN THIS UP THIS MORNING? YES, SIR. UH, WILL Y'ALL PRAY WITH ME? OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN AND FATHER WILL COME BEFORE YOU TODAY THANKING YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU GIVE US. WE COME TO YOU NOW ASKING YOU TO LOOK WITH FAVOR ON US AS WE DO OUR COUNTY'S BUSINESS. WE ALSO ASKED P WITH OUR LEADERS OF OUR NATION, OUR SO THAT ARE IN HARMS WAY. WE ASK YOUR SONS NAME, AMEN. THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO PROVIDE, WHICH STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. UH, I DUNNO IF Y'ALL SAW IT OR NOT, BUT THEY'RE IN THE LEGISLATURE. THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING PUTTING UNDER GOD IN THE TEXAS PLACE. Y'ALL HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAIR ACT. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. GOT A COUPLE OF, UH, FYIS. JACK, CAN I TROUBLE YOU TO, UH, GET ONE OF THESE AND GIVE ONE THE HOUSE? PROBABLY. I GOT A COPY OF IT. AND, UH, OF THE MEDIA THAT WENT ON, IT WAS A BACK BOARD, UH, MET IN AUSTIN ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO AND, UH, VOTED A SUBSTANTIAL ALLOCATION OF THE TOBACCO MONEY. AND, UH, I'M PRIVILEGED TO REPRESENT THE COUNTIES OF NORTH AND EAST TEXAS ON THAT BOARD. AND, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO SQUEEZE OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT THIS YEAR, UH, WE'LL BE GETTING $54,761 AND 40 CENTS OUT OF THE TOBACCO SETTLEMENT MONEY. THIS IS MONEY THAT'S, THEY DON'T TOUCH THE, UH, PRINCIPLE ANYMORE. JUST STRICTLY, UH, MONEY THAT'S BEEN EARNED OFF OF THE, UH, BILLIONS. AND I HAD, I'VE SERVED ON BOARDS BEFORE AND, AND WHERE WE HAD MILLION, MILLIONS IN THE BUDGET, LIKE OUR COUNTY BUDGET, 32, 30 3 MILLION. BUT DOWN THERE AT THAT BOARD THEY TALK ABOUT BILLIONS AND I, I, I WAS JUST OVERWHELMED THAT, UH, THE TYPE OF MONEY THAT THEY TALK ABOUT ON THAT BOARD. BUT THEY'VE GOT INVESTORS, THEY GOT OVERSEERS OF THOSE INVESTORS AND OVERSEERS OF THOSE OVERSEERS. I MEAN, IT'S SO INTRICATE. IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY A GOOD SITUATION AND IT'S ALL UNDER THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. SO, BUT THERE'S STILL LOTS OF MONEY DOWN THERE. DOES THIS GO ON PRECINCT ONE FOR ROADS? NO. UH, HERE'S, UH, REQUEST FROM, UH, TAX REGARDING, UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MAY DRIVE TRUCKS. IN ANY CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES AND THE STATE GOT REGARDING THE TOBACCO OF MONEY. AND WHEN YOU SEE HOW MUCH THE BIG COUNTIES GETS, YOU THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING SHORTCHANGED, [00:05:01] BUT, UH, WE GOT 254 COUNTIES IN THE STATE. NOT ALL OF 'EM GET SOME, BUT, UH, SEVERAL OF THEM DO. SO, UH, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THAT TRANSPORTATION BOOK IS, UH, TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN OUR NORTH TEXAS AREA. SO YOU TALK, YOU ENJOY READING THAT. OKAY. THAT BRINGS, YES SIR. IS IT OFFICIAL THAT THEY'VE, UH, DELAYED THE TRANSEX YEARS GENERAL? I DUNNO IF IT'S OFFICIAL OR NOT. THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN ON AROUND LEGISLATURE. I DUNNO IF THAT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LEGISLATURE THERE ARE GETTING IT, SO, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY OFFICIAL YET. DICK, IS THAT YOU? THIS, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA DISCUSSED, CONSIDER PROVING ISSUANCE OF ONE OR MORE SERIES OF THE TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCE REVENUE BONDS. UH, WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST FOR PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL. IAN HOSPITAL IS UNDER THE, UH, UH, UH, HEALTH RESOURCE SYSTEM, UH, NORTH TEXAS. THE HOSPITALS OF, UM, IAN HOSPITAL IN KAUFMAN, UH, PLANO, UH, BRISBANE HOSPITAL OF ALLEN HARRIS METHODIST HOSPITALS, ARLINGTON MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, PRESLY AND HOSPITAL OF DALLAS. AND HOSPITALS ARE HEALTHCARE CENTERS IN DENTON COUNTY, WAYNESBORO, STEPHENVILLE, AND CLEAVER. AND, UH, THEY ARE ASKING US TO SUPPORT AND APPROVE THEM. ISSUING SOME, UH, REVENUE BONDS. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, OTHER THAN SOME OF THE MONEY MAY BE SPENT AT OUR PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL HERE. UH, THEY JUST SENT IT DOWN AND ASKED FOR ME TO SIGN IT AND I SAID, NO, I, I, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT AND WE NEED TO GET ACTION FROM THE COURT. UH, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT. I'VE TRY. I SENT YOU EVERYTHING THAT I HAD. UH, WELL, JUDGE, IT SAID IT'S JUST FOR OUR, OUR, UH, APPROVAL. RIGHT? RIGHT. I BELIEVE I'M READING THE INSIDE THERE AND IT SAYS SUCH APPROVAL DOES NOT CREATE OR IMPLY ANY OBLIGATION BY THE COUNTY WITH RESPECT TO PAYMENT OF THE BOND OR THE OPERATION OF THE PROJECT. CORRECT. IT'S JUST TO HELP THEM GET THE BONDS, BUT IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE US IN ANY WAY AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM WHAT I READ HERE. AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, SEE, I THOUGHT THEY HAD ONE THAT WE HAD DONE BEFORE IN HERE. NO, THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, UH, THAT HAVE SIGNED OFF AND APPROVED THIS ISSUANCE ANYWAY, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD TO DO, BUT I WASN'T GOING TO DO IT ON MY OWN. I WANTED, UH, Y'ALL WAS OKAY ON IT AS WELL. I DON'T SEE THAT IT PUTS ANY BURDEN ON FINANCIAL OR, UH, ANY OTHER KIND OF OBLIGATIONS. SO I MOVE THAT WE, UH, MAKE THAT I, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER RYAN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION. CONSIDER PRO CLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 23 THROUGH APRIL 29TH AS AMERICAN VETERANS TRAVELING. TRIBUTE WEEK IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. THAT'S THIS WEEK. IS THAT WALL COME IN? COFFMAN COMING. . IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S, UH, ALL WE'VE HEARD ABOUT FOR THE LAST WEEK AND, UH, AND, AND FOR THE LAST MONTH. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT, GREAT TRIBUTE TO KAMAN. THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IN TEXAS [00:10:01] THAT THAT'S COMING THIS WHOLE YEAR. SO, UH, AND I THINK THOSE PEOPLE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A GREAT BATCH OF VOLUNTEERS TO WORK ON THAT. SO I'M, UH, I I HOPE EVERYBODY'S EXCITED ABOUT IT COMING AS I AM. IS JOHNNY, JOHNNY'S NOT HERE. HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT WORKING ON THE WALL. HE'S NOT WORKING ON IT. WE NEED TO LET THE JUDGE MAKE THE MOTION. . YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK ALL IN THURSDAY. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT WAY I'LL DISCUSSED, CONSIDER POINTING GRADY CARROLL TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL BOARD. UH, NOTHING AGAINST MR. CARROLL, BUT IT'S GREAT RELUCTANCE THAT I WANT TO DO THIS. OH. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT SEE THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. UH, BUT, UM, RAY, YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON? WELL, MR. BECK GENERAL BECK'S GONNA TAG YOU ABOUT MR. CARROLL. OKAY. RECOMMEND COURT, PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR THANK PROCEED. UH, I'VE KNOWN BRADY CARROLL FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS. UH, HE IS A WORLD WAR II VETERAN SERVING IN THE EUROPEAN THEATER. UH, CAME BACK AFTER THE WAR, HAD A SUCCESSFUL CAREER AS A BUSINESSMAN IN DALLAS AND THEN RETIRED HERE. HE'S LIVED IN KENT ABOUT NEARLY THOSE 30 YEARS. HE CAME BACK TO THE HOME TERRITORY, UM, OF HIS WIFE'S FAMILY. HE SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE PLANNING BOARD. I THINK THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HAS DONE ABOUT EVERYTHING FOR KEMP, BUT NOW HE'S FREE FOR US. UH, I THINK, UH, HE'LL MAKE A GREAT, UH, BOARD MEMBER RECOMMEND HIS APPROVAL. IN FACT, I GUARANTEE . WELL, GENERAL, I FEEL SURE THAT WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT UH, MR. CARROLL WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING ON THAT BOARD. UH, LIKE THE JUDGE SAID, WE CERTAINLY HATE TO LEAVE, LOSE SOMEONE WITH YOUR PRESTIGE AND, UH, ABILITY OFF OF THERE. BUT, UH, I'M NOT, FEEL SURE MR. CARROLL'S GONNA DO A GREAT JOB. BUT WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME AND, UH, ENERGY YOU PUT INTO THAT WHILE YOU WERE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I, I'M PROUD OF MY SMALL PARTY AND, UH, HE PLAYED THE PAR GOLF . MAYBE HE CAN HELP US WITH OUR SLICES. I MAKE A MOTION TO WE A APPOINT GRADY CAROL TO THE DEFENDANT MEMORIAL BOARD. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION TO CARRY US. UH, I SPOKE TO RAY RAYMOND, WILL ALSO HAVE JAMES KRAFT WITH US TODAY. UH, AND THOSE THREE GUYS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE ARE THE THREE MOVERS BEHIND THE, UH, KAMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL. AND WE'RE REAL PROUD OF 'EM AND REAL PROUD OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE. AND, UH, NOW IF WE CAN GET THAT, UH, HELICOPTER AND THE HOWITZERS DOWN HERE, WE'LL BE IN GREAT SHAPE. TANK LOOKS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. YEAH. THANK ONCE AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US AND THE COUNTY, AND PARTICULARLY THE COUNTY'S VETERANS. OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA, UH, DISCUSS CONSIDER OF PASSING THE RESOLUTIONS. ACCORDING HOUSE JR 61, THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS DOWN THERE, BUT, UH, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES IS THE BILL TO FORBID UNFUNDED MANDATES TRICKING DOWN TO THE COUNTY. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. AND I THINK THAT IS, UH, BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE STATE DOES TO US ALL BOIL DOWN TO UNFUNDED MANDATES. AND IF WE CAN GET OUT FROM UNFUNDED MANDATES OR STOP 'EM FROM COMING, CONTINUED COMING DOWN TO US. BUT WE'RE GONNA BE WAY AHEAD. AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, SUPPORT THAT MOTION MADE BY SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION. YEAH. ONE THING YOU NEED TO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THIS IS NOT A SAVE ALL. 'CAUSE IF YOU READ THE, [00:15:01] THE FIFTH ITEM DOWN THERE, IT SAYS THESE ARE ESTIMATED AT AGGREGATE COST TEXAS COUNTIES OF LESS THAN $1 MILLION. SO THIS HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 61 IS, DOES NOT COVER UNFUNDED MANDATES LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS. YEAH. BUT, UH, IN FACT, URBAN COUNTY, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL THIS MORNING FROM URBAN COUNTY SAYING, BEWARE OF THIS, UH, HOUSE JOINT REGULATION. IT DOESN'T DO ALL YOU THINK IT DOES. IT'S A GOOD START, BUT, UH, IT DOESN'T, UH, DOESN'T COVER ALL THE ISSUES. I THINK IT ALSO HAS A PROVISION IN IT, COMMISSIONER THAT SAYS, WHOEVER IS PRO PROPOSING THAT UNFUNDED MANDATE CAN SAY IN THERE AND HB 61 DOES NOT APPLY. THAT'S RIGHT'S. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD START. A GOOD START. THAT IT'S, UH, YES. IT'S NOT A CURE ALL IT ALL, IT'S A GOOD START. I THINK WE OUGHT TO SUPPORT IT WITH A FEW CAVEATS. CAVEAT NUMBER ONE, THAT THEY DROPPED THE MILLION DOLLARS MILLION DOLLARS. YEAH. WHAT IS OUR, WHAT IS OUR, UH, INDIGENT HEALTH? ABOUT 800,000. IS THAT WHAT ACTUALLY WE HAVE TO BUDGET ABOUT 1.2. 1.2. AND THEN INDIGENT DEFENSE IS ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE THAT'S OVER 1.2. SO, SO IT WOULD'VE CAUGHT US ON THOSE TWO. YEAH, IT WOULD, IT IT HAD IT BEEN INEFFECTIVE AT THE TIME. YEAH, I THINK FOR SURE THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT IT. IT'S JUST, UH, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE HELP THAN THAT ON THE, THIS IS ON THE LETTER THAT WE SENT OUT THAN WE CAN PUT, UH, UH, IT PASSED IN THE COLTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, UH, THAT A MILLION DOLLARS SHOULD RESTRICTIONS SHOULD BE DROPPED FROM THE BILL. IT, IT HURTS SOME OF THE REAL SMALL COUNTIES. OH, YEAH. WORSE THAN US. NOW THAT 254, THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T AFFECT 50 OF THEM. YEAH. YEAH. BUT WE'RE GONNA, I DO WANNA SUPPORT IT. YEAH. ALL YOU GOT WHO MADE THE MOTION IN SECONDED. NEXT ONE IS DISCUSSING A CONSIDER PASSING A RESOLUTION ENDORSING A MOTOR FUELS TAX INDEXING. THIS RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM THE CONFERENCE BUR COUNTIES. AND, UH, THIS WOULD MEASURE THE RATE OF INFLATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, HAS BEEN A PAIN IN EVERYBODY'S SIDE IS THE WAY THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION MONEY'S BEEN SPENT AND THE WAY, UH, BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE IN THE PAST HAS GRABBED THE PART OF IT, AND ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR HIGHWAYS WENT THROUGH THE HIGHWAY FUND. IT'D BE PLENTY OF MONEY. OH, ABSOLUTE. SO, UH, THE, THE KEY TO THIS IS THIS TAX THAT WE GET IN THE COUNTY ONLY IS GASOLINE. ONE 10TH OF 1% COMES TO THE COUNTY. WE GET NO TAX MONEY FROM DIESEL TAX. WE GET NONE FROM LIQUID PROPANE ONLY. DO YOU THINK THIS ADDRESSES THAT ENOUGH? IT ADDRESSES ITSELF. IT'S, IT'S A GOOD START. PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH STATE. THAT ISSUE. WE JUST GOTTA HAVE A START. YEAH. UH, WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO SUPPORT THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL MOTION CARRIES. UH, THIS NEXT ITEM, UH, POINTED ON THE AGENDA. IF Y'ALL WILL REMEMBER, UH, WE HAD, UH, PRESENTED Y'ALL WITH A DEAL AT THIS COMPANY CALLED BUSINESS SERVICE GROUP. WANTED TO COME IN AND AUDIT OUR UTILITY BILLS. AND, UH, AND THE COST WAS GOING TO BE WHATEVER THEY SAVED US, WHATEVER THEY FOUND, UH, THAT WE HAD BEEN OVERCHARGED, THEIR FEE WAS HALF OF WHAT THEY RECOVERED. NOW THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. WELL, WHEN THE CONTRACT CAME IN AND I READ IT OVER, UH, THAT WAS NOT EXACTLY WHAT THE [00:20:01] CONTRACT SAYS. UH, THEY WANTED INITIALLY EXTENDED IT FOR FIVE YEARS. IN OTHER WORDS, OKAY, SUPPOSE THEY COME IN AND AUDIT THIS, UH, AND THOSE UTILITIES AND THEY FIND, OKAY, YOU'VE BEEN OVERCHARGED 25,000 BUCKS. UH, THEN WE GET, THEY GET THE REFUND, WE GET 12, THEY GET 12, 12 AND A HALF. BUT THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE GOTTA TURN AROUND AND GIVE THEM 12 AND A HALF FOR FIVE YEARS. WE GIVE THEM 12 AND A HALF. AND WHEN I SAW THIS IN THE CONTRACT, I SAID, I TALKED ON IT AND I SAID I WANTED TO, I TOLD HIM, I SAID, I GOTTA TAKE THAT BACK FORTH TO MR. BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE COMMISSIONER'S UNDERSTANDING. IT WAS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH. AND, UH, SO I, I, UH, WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL AND IT WAS A GOOD DEAL IF IT WAS WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE, AND HE TALKED TO HAL, I THINK HE TALKED TO JACK AND, UH, Y'ALL GOT PROBABLY GOT THE SAME IMPRESSION I GET. IT'S, UH, HE COMES IN AUDITS. IF WE GET REFUNDS, HE GETS HALF, WE GET HALF. BUT THAT'S NOT THE EXTENT OF IT. SO, UH, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH TYING THAT UP FOR FIVE YEARS. PASS THAT DEAL. SO, UH, I WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT AND, UM, DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS JUDGE? UH, I DIDN'T PUT IT ON FOR ACTION, I JUST PRIMARILY WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW. AND, UH, IF, IF Y'ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO, THEN I'LL PUT IT ON NEXT WEEK TO, UH, UH, RETRACT OUR MOTION PLAN BEFORE I'LL SECOND THAT. BOTTOM THERE. YEAH. AGENDA. OKAY. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. NEXT DISCUSSION. CONSIDER ACCEPTING COMP COUNTY RULE, EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. I THINK THE CREATION OF THESE AND THE STATUTE SAYS THAT THEY'RE TO, UM, PROVIDE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT EACH YEAR. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT. WE CAN'T TELL 'EM HOW TO SPEND THEIR MONEY THAT THEIR BOARD DOES THAT AND CANNOT TELL 'EM WHAT THEIR RATE OF TAX SHOULD BE. THEREFORE, DOES THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE. SO LIKE THAT, UH, CROWN REPORT, NOW WE DO THAT LOG SAYS THEY REPORT TO US. OKAY. NUMBER SEVEN. NOW WHO'S GOT NUMBER SEVEN? RIGHT? WHERE IS THAT? SEVEN? WHICH RANDALL, YOU ALL MAKE THAT MOTION THEN TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT. OKAY. YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER CLARK CAN MAKE THAT MOTION ACKNOWLEDGING THE RECEIPT OF THAT REPORT. MR. WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NOW M EMBARK WANTS TO CARRY CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 19. AND THAT'S IN PRECINCT WARRANT. THAT IS IN PRECINCT WARRANT. JUDGE, I MAKE THE MOTION. I AGREE TO THIS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ACT. DO THESE GUYS, BECAUSE WE PUT ON THAT BILL, IF THEY'RE TO NOTIFY BEFORE THEY START ACTUALLY DIGGING OUT THERE, DO THEY ACTUALLY CALL Y'ALL NOTIFY Y'ALL? OH, THE ONE THAT WE MADE WITH, UH, WITH BECKER HEBA, WE ACTUALLY PUT A LITTLE NOTE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM TO PLEASE NOTIFY MR. AL BEFORE YOU START DIGGING. BUT I THINK ON THESE, Y'ALL WANT THEM TO, IT DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY. IF WE, IF IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T CLEAN UP THEIR MESS, WE'LL CALL THEM THEN YOU CALL THEM. OKAY. ACTUALLY IT DOES SAY ON HERE, PLEASE NOTIFY JERRY IN 48 HOURS. BUT NOBODY EVER DOES IT AND WE DON'T. IT DOESN'T POSSIBLE. UH, OKAY. WOODRUFF LANE DOWN IN PRECINCT FOUR, WE'RE GETTING OUR PHONE SYSTEM HERE. I MAKE YOU KEEP MORE PROBLEMS OVER MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CHENEY. ALL IN FAIR SKY. A MOTION CARRIES. DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THIS MORNING HOUSE? YES. DO THE PROPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FOR JP THREE INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS, $200 REDUCTION IN MILEAGE FIRE MARSHAL, INCREASED MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING. $531 REDUCTION IN BONDS OF A HUNDRED GAS AND OIL 300 AND TRAINING CONFERENCES. 131 SHERIFF'S [00:25:01] FUND INCREASE OFFICE FURNITURE EQUIPMENT 5,000 WITH PRODUCTION OF GASOLINE JAIL FUND. WE HAVE UH, JUST SOME CHANGES BETWEEN SALARY CATEGORIES. UH, INCREASE OF SALARY NURSES WARRANT OFFICER REDUCTION IN, IN FAVORS CHARITY'S COURT RELIEF. INCREASED INVESTIGATIVE EXPENSES, 5,000 WITH REDUCTION IN PROSECUTION EXPENSE. SHERIFF'S ASSET FORFEITURE FUND INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 6,000 REDUCTION IN CONTRACT LABEL. RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 10,000 REDUCTION IN BOOK PRESERVATION AND TRAINING FUND. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES OF SEVEN $36 IN THE STATE AND INCREASED TRAINING COSTS. OKAY, GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES. JUST CAME. CODE I BELIEVE SAYS REQUIRED NOT. I THINK IT'S PRIMARILY FOR THE COUNTY TO KNOW, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY GOES FIRED. THAT'S THE REASON. THAT'S THE PURPOSE SO FAR. WE COMMISSIONER WANTED DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY GIVEN. SO UNLESS THAT THE CASE INFORMATION TO THE, [00:32:10] I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BRAGGING THAT LAST WEEK. DO SOME WORK FOR PROBATION. HUH? SHEET WE DO TO YOU ALL THE TIME. YOU JUST DON'T WORK JACK, HOW YOUR GOOD. SHE HAD A PROPERTY. I DON'T MIND THEM HARDWARE BILLS IN YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU OVER CREDITS. CREDITS ONLY. I, MY CP CP THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU MONEY TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN THAT KICKED OUTTA A HOTEL RECENTLY AND AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE HAD CHARGED AMERICAN EXPRESS 2 CENTS. 2 CENTS. 2 CENTS AND BILL IT 2 CENTS SHORT. SO I ASKED HIM, I SAID, LISTEN, CAN I JUST PAY YOU THAT 2 CENTS INSTEAD? YOU CHARGE THAT TO MY SPREAD. DID THEY YOU? YEP. [00:35:02] THEY WOULD TO COST MORE MONEY. THEY'D HAVE SIGNATURE FOR LETTERS. I'M SURE COST THEM MORE MONEY. COST MORE. HE SAID WAS SURPRISED. HE, AS LONG AS HE OWNS LAND THERE, HE NO ACTIVITY ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS OR SOMETHING. AND I THINK THERE MAY BE A ONE THAT'S ONE. SO HE WOULD THEY HAVE THEIR WHATEVER THEY HAVE COURT. PRETTY SURE I'LL GET AN TO GO THROUGH THE FILES IN AND SHE DISTRICT OWNS LAND RIGHT ON THE DISTRICT. SO IF THEY'RE TAX PEOPLE OWN THE LAND, WE GOT MORE DALLAS COUNTY. HOW FOLKS? WE HAD SOME MONEY IN THE COUNTY HERE FOR WE NO IDEA WHO WAS CHECK, I DUNNO IF THEY'VE BEEN IN DALLAS COUNTY. COUNTY, DO WE 25 APPROACHING 25. NOT THIS WEEK OR HE'S GONNA COME? NO, I CALL IT THE HOSTING. AND HE SAID I LET JOE GO. I FIGURED HE'D BE ONE IS JOE'S PRECINCT JOE. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS WADE MC USED TO BE DISTRICTING CHANGED IT. OH, OKAY. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION. OH YEAH, THEY WERE ON VERY FRIENDLY TERMS WITH 'EM. I JUST, SO I GAVE 'EM A HEADS UP THOUGH ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEY WOULD'VE NEVER KNOWN AND NO, NO, WE WORKED TOGETHER. THEY'RE GOOD. I USED TO LIVE IN PRECINCT WHEN I LIVED. EMPLOYEES CAN'T EAT TOGETHER. CAFE, THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN EMPLOYEES ROAD BRIDGE GUYS CAN'T EAT TOGETHER. REALLY? REALLY? WHAT MY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHY WOULD THAT? I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW THAT MY BROTHER-IN-LAW'S IN HIS DEAL DOWN THERE. HIM ABOUT THAT. JUST A POLICY PRECINCT. NO, NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT GUYS WITHIN HIS PRECINCT CAN'T GO EAT TOGETHER IN THE CITY CAFE. OH REALLY? I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT. MM-HMM. DALE, MA'AM, YOU CAN'T GO EAT WHEN SOMEONE NOW THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, NO, NO. IF HENDERSON, HE COULD GET ANYBODY TO GO WITH HIM. IF ANYBODY'S GOT MONEY BACK, I'M BACK TODAY. I I'LL BUY TODAY. OKAY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? HE SAID THE THE WORKERS CAN'T GO WITH THE, WITH EACH OTHER. THAT'S SILLY. NOT THIS SILLY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT I SOUND LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BE THE ADVANTAGE TO IT. I KNOW. YEAH. I DUNNO. I DUNNO. WHAT'S TREND WHITE [00:40:02] TREND WHITE CORPORATION. I SAY COURSE COMPUTER'S GOT A VIRUS WORKING ON IT. OH, SHE'S HERE? NO, SHE'S HERE. SHE'S JUST HER. I, THERE'S SOMETHING COMING UP THIS WAY. THE GO DOWN IT. SO IT'S GONNA GO LATE IN THE PAST MAY A HEARING ONE OF THE BILLS OPPOSING HEARING THE BILLS I THROUGH YET, I THINK IT WAS WEDNESDAY. YOU KNOW THOSE COMMITTEE AND SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS DON'T START UNTIL AFTER THEY ADJOURN ON THE FLOOR AND IT'S USUALLY THREE 30 OR FOUR BEFORE THEY ADJOURN ON THE FLOOR. THEN THAT'S WHEN THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS START. SO THAT'S WHY THEY GO 11, 12 DOWN DOWN THE DOWNSTAIRS OFFICE PANEL. YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT MARYANNE'S OFFICE. YOU GO BY THERE AND LOOK AT WE GO CHECK THAT OUT. HAVE A NEW OFFICE. ACTUALLY MY SURROUNDING AREA. YOUR SURROUNDING AREA. WHENEVER WE WENT DOWN FOR CONMAN COUNTY DAY, BUT THE COUNTY, IT WAS 95 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 85. YEAH, THE STATE WAS 62 OR 63. [00:45:01] WHICH ONE? WHERE AT THE, UH, WHEREVER MART MARRIOTT. SHE WHERE WE 30 A DAY CHEAPER REBOOK AND I CANCELED ONE. WE BOOKED THE OTHER ONE. SAME HOTEL. SAME HOTEL. REALLY? WHY? IT WAS THE SAME HOTEL. OH YEAH. I STAYED IN THE SAME ROOM. THEY WAS $35 CHEAPER. WELL, WHAT WAS THE RATE? HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. THE RATE THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NEGOTIATED WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE, A HUNDRED FORTY SOMETHING. THE GOVERNMENT RATE WAS 85. SO IF YOU MADE YOUR RESERVATIONS THROUGH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, YOU PAID 35 $4 MORE. IF YOU, THAT'S NOT FAIR. IF YOU CALLED MADE, MADE RESERVATIONS AND, AND GOT THE GOVERNMENT RATE BECAUSE YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY, THEN YOU GOT THE 85. SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS. NOW THE FIRST THING WE ALWAYS DO, WE CALL THIS WHAT'S THE GOVERNMENT RATE AND SOME OF 'EM ACTUALLY MAKE YOU SHOW YOUR, YOUR CREDENTIALS WHEN WE CHECK IN AND THEY'LL HAVE ON THE RESERVATION. THAT RESERVATION REQUIRED. I DON'T CARRY ANYTHING TO SHOW THAT YOU DON'T CARE THAT LITTLE CARD SECRETARY OF STATE SENT YOU. YOU NEED TO START. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU GONNA HAVE TO PROVE COMMISSION. I GOT, YEAH, I DO HAVE, YEAH, WHEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE SENT YOU THAT NICE LITTLE AND THAT SAME ENVELOPE PUT IN YOUR BILL. YEAH, I KEEP MIND. I GOT A DRIVER'S LICENSE, CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE AND THE COUNTY JUDGE CARD. SO IF I GET STOPPED I JUST GIVE 'EM ALL THREE. YEAH, JUST, OKAY. AND THAT LUNCH IS TODAY AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, RIGHT? THE UH, ANNUAL EXTENSION SERVICE BRIEFING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS AT 12 O'CLOCK TODAY AT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING AT PARAGRAPHS. ALRIGHT. DID THEY INVITE EVERYBODY TO INVITE INVITE? SHE SAYS, SAID SHE GOT ALL THE BUSINESS DONE BY THEN SHE'D BE THERE. WELL, THAT'S SHOULD LEARN THAT TOO. WE WILL NOT BE GETTING ANY CRAWFISH THOUGH, BAD CRAWFISH CROP THIS YEAR. YOU EVER GO TO COFFEE LAND? MM-HMM . YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE, I'M NOT SURE. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM. THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T GET ANY GOOD CRAB LAKE UNTIL APRIL, UH, LAST WEEK. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY REALLY? THEY HAVEN'T HAD THEM ABOUT THREE AND A HALF, FOUR MONTHS THEY WENT CAUGHT. INCREDIBLY. IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER? YEAH, SEASON. THE SEASON IS COMES ABOUT APRIL. JUDGE, DOES TOBACCO MONEY GET ISSUED EVERY YEAR OR JUST WHENEVER? JUST EVERY YEAR. THAT'S JUST AN INTEREST. MILLIONS. I NEVER TOUCHED THE, UH, PRINT. WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO? UH, THERE WAS A LIST. DID YOU GET A COPY OF THAT LIST? OH, THEY, NO, I MEAN, LIKE SHE GOT 50. SHE, FOR US YOU GOT 54,000. WHO GETS THE 54,000? OKAY. THAT'S ACTUALLY REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE, UH, MONIES THAT THE COUNTY SPEND ON INDIGENT HEALTH AND OH, UH, ON THE JAIL PEOPLE SEE HOW EACH YEAR PROBABLY WHAT, BY JANUARY 1ST [00:50:01] OR SOMEWHERE IN THERE? MIDDLE OF JANUARY, MIDDLE OF JANUARY, HAL HAS SENT IN A REPORT OF ALL THE MONEY WE SPENT ON INDIGENT HEALTH AND ALSO ALL OF THE MONEY WE SPENT, UH, TREATING PRISONERS AT THE JAIL. NOW WHAT THE STATE DOES, THEN THEY TAKE ALL OF THAT WITH ALL OF THE COUNTIES AND THEN THEY TAKE OUR LITTLE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL DIS DISBURSEMENT. BUT THAT'S HOW OUR PERCENTAGE IS, IS FIGURED. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE GET DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. NO, I KNOW THAT. WE, WE JUST GIVE A SERVICE PERCENTAGE I SUPPORT WENT THAT'S IS TO REPLACE WHAT WE SPENT ON INDIGENT HEALTH AND, UH, PRISONERS AT THE JAIL DURING THE LAST YEAR. OKAY. THAT'S WHY, UM, A MOTION SECOND BILLS BY COMMISSIONER LER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, ROUND ALL ACT MOTION CARRIED. UH, THAT'S WHY OUR PERCENTAGE IS SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE DALLAS COUNTY AND ALL THE BIG COUNTIES, THEY SPEND SO MUCH MORE. SO THEY GET MUCH MORE OF IT. AND, UH, ANYWAY, SO THE COUNTIES WERE REPRESENTED ON THE NEGOTIATING TEAM THAT NEGOTIATED BACK OF SELMA. SO THAT'S WHY THE COUNTIES ENDED UP WITH SELMA. UH, REMIND YOU OF THE, UH, BRIEFING TODAY AND, AND THEN NOT START A LITTLE BIT EARLY IF YOU GET OUT THERE A LITTLE EARLY. AND COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND TAKE COMMISSIONER LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION. CARRIE? I HAVE, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ACCURATE, BUT I AIN'T GONNA BE ON RECORD. OKAY. BUT CARRIE, HE DID A, A. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.